AYN Odin 3

[autumn obsidian]

Yep

[kindred crypt]

I actually really like it, second only to the clear blue og Odin 2 for me

[umbral heron]

Ice Blue is so nice...
Was easily my favorite of the ones I wanted to get.
And it turned out to have the least hinge issues as well

But now the Thor is a thing, so I have little interest in the Flip 2 at this point

[autumn obsidian]

I loved the black

But i couldn't get another one cause of the issues

I swapped for ice blue

[autumn obsidian]

I think the flip 2 is going to be more comfortable for longer sessions tbh

[umbral heron]

I don't play games in super long sessions, and I'm the rare weirdo who can somehow play dpad games on 3ds for a good while when I do play a while, so Thor is more than good enough for me.
Worst case scenario, could get a grip, but more likely I'll have both O3(P) and Thor

Might be because I have smaller hands though

[tame saddle]

Really? That's how mine looked in most normal light

Def how it looks in daylight

When most people would see it outside of my family. Heh

[kindred crypt]

ah, I guess it depends on how much sunlight you get during the day where you live

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Valid

Think we have like 300+ days of sun where I am. Lol

On a cloudy day it'd probably look closer to true

[tame saddle]

I just couldn't do the GC stick layout. Dunno why. Should be better than the RP5. My hand positioning just never worked out

I also never used a grip on it tho. Could have been nice with that

Dpad was fine. Which is mostly what I used on it and will mostly be what I use on this in all likelihood

I'm just praying for non clicky buttons. 🙏 🙏 🙏

[upbeat summit]

I want to upgrade spec wise from an RP5. How hopeful is it to speculate for an Odin 3 Mini? I find the RP5 portable enough so the O3 is NBD but I'd rather have a Mini version tbh

[short gust]

RP6 (G2 Gen2)

After RP Mini V3

[worldly sail]

I wouldn’t say it’s all too likely, but I also wouldn’t say it’s never happening.

I guess it depends on whether you think the Odin 3 as is will or will not be portable enough, where if you think the latter then waiting would probably be best.

[upbeat summit]

That's fair honestly
In fact a lot of handheld purchasing decisions come down to "do you wanna wait or not" LOL

[upbeat summit]

Do we know for sure its coming?

[short gust]

yup

it will be huge gain over 865 (almost 3 times in gpu at minimum) and 30% cpu

[fathom oyster]

What does it compare to that we know of rn?

[short gust]

8+ gen 1, but overclocked (can be not much less than Gen2)

same base

[fathom oyster]

I see thanks

[umbral heron]

!!!

Still very slightly losing, but first time 50-50 percent

[kindred crypt]

closing the gap but we still need to mobilize

[short gust]

i feel they just drop both, chill

[kindred crypt]

no, they already confirmed making both is too expensive due to the new screen panel costs, it'll be just one

[gilded edge]

hopefully we will be able to get the O3 this year before christmas

[wary matrix]

Go team blue

[short gust]

dont believe in that

[kindred crypt]

I do, those screens are new and custom manufactured = expensive to make

[short gust]

that true, i mean dont believe it was expensive to make different colour

cases cost +- nothing when order batch

[kindred crypt]

yeah but you allocate the costs of all materials and components when you do a color

it adds to costs and complexity

[torn saffron]

Gpu is similar but more power demanding, but the cpu is significantly faster and efficient

[short gust]

[noble dust]

If I could buy an atomic purple house, I would

[short gust]

8 Elite

G3X Gen 2 / G3 Gen3

8 Elite

G Series

@quaint dust everything understand?

[noble dust]

Will the Odin 3 having an elite chip possibly quicken the development for elite drivers?

Or is that just wishful thinking

[short gust]

nope, i dont think so

only if Ayaneo will focus of Elite, they can push them with big donate (exclusive turnip drivers) it possible to make them work only on Ayaneo devices 🙂 (spoof/etc wont help)

[noble dust]

Fair enough

[short gust]

G6

[main dock]

lol you're still using this as the basis for g3x gen 2?

[short gust]

Yes, I only have these in stock in single hand, the rest tuned (not fair, bc G3x Gen2 get huuuge boost from undervolting, Gen3 less but too)

[torn saffron]

For reference. With undervolting the g3x gen 2 can get 4200-4500 lowest loop in 3dmark wild life extreme.

[worldly geyser]

undervolting does have you at the mercy of silicon quality

ofc you can usually extract a bit more performance and efficiency because they do settle for a stable out of the box experience but it's def a tweak for enthusiasts

[torn saffron]

I plan to do it for atleast the g3x gen 2 devices i have. Waiting on a battery for my pocket s and whenever i get the ds.

[short gust]

not in that case

G series every has good potential

[worldly geyser]

it still does

[short gust]

when on common snaps it can be 0 profit

[worldly geyser]

you can make the argument that they run a bit higher voltage than possibly needed maybe that probably just underlines that there is more variability

bigger chip usually means lower yields, so they probably run voltage a bit higher to get outliers to work consistently

[short gust]

higher voltages and get higher effiency lol?

G series has nerfed CPU, that how it works

and overclocked GPU

[worldly geyser]

higher stability, voltages are set as low as possible while being 100% stable even with silicon lottery on top

the idea is that you want to settle for one value that will work with all the chips TSMC makes instead of fine tuning each chip individually, that's too much effort and would increase costs a ton

that's why sometimes efficiency is left on the table

that's common knowledge btw, overclocking, undervolting, any tuning on PC has always considered this

[short gust]

dont see contradictions of my words

[worldly geyser]

you target a specific max clock speed, some chips need more power to get there

that's why I say they run voltage a bit higher so it's stable even with variable silicon quality

it might not sound intuitive but undervolting is possible because of that very fact

[short gust]

ofc

[worldly geyser]

if you have a better chip you can go lower

[short gust]

all what i sayed, G chips dont have that huge random of silicon

[worldly geyser]

with some chips I mean of the same specification, not every snapdragon 8 elite is the same if that makes sense

[worldly geyser]

fair enough, yeah that's possible

the variability is always there but some factors can effect it

[tidal oak]

with the latest cpu and gpus, undervolting is the best way to get performance. since now everything is OC out the box and "boosts" as high as thermally possible.

[short gust]

they already binned out of the factory

[worldly geyser]

yeah they are but they sell you multiple bins basically

[short gust]

u never have max thermal out box

NEVER

[main dock]

@short gust fresh test results for you. No OC/UV. Max performance, HIGH fan

[worldly geyser]

if you bin by say 10MHz steps, they wouldn't make different SKUs with different voltages for those

[tidal oak]

?

[tame saddle]

You do thermal mod?

[short gust]

its not stock device

[main dock]

whats not stock?

[tame saddle]

Did you buy direct or second hand? And did you thermal mod it?

[short gust]

uh ... with root and patched kernel u can extend it and get full power

without any limits

[main dock]

lmao says its rooted

[tidal oak]

language barrier?

[tame saddle]

Probably

[worldly geyser]

Take the 7600X, 7600, 7500F and 7400F - essentially all very similar CPU designs but you have different clock targets and the iGPU is disabled for the F variants. Rather than giving each chip it's custom voltage the binning just sorts them into those different tiers where the lower down you go they released them later because they have been collecting the ones that didn't meet the initial spec for a higher end part.

[tidal oak]

like my 7700X is designed to boost its clock until it hits 90C or something

[short gust]

most of them dont have problem in freqs

just dead igpu

[tame saddle]

But yeah. My DMG without thermal mod, not so hot. 70-80 instability, 3.8-3.9K (always started at mid 4k then dropped like a stone)

[worldly geyser]

well if that were the case the 7400F wouldn't exist

[short gust]

at least first batches

[tame saddle]

After modding it id run on low fan settings and get 4.3/4.4 consistently

[main dock]

ive said it before and i'll say it again: you just want to believe whatever you tell yourself

[worldly geyser]

the point is just you always have a range of silicon quality within the same spec

[tidal oak]

when I UV my CPU i get big gains because of the aforementioned boost stuff.

[agile yew]

So the X elite chip 6" 120hz OLED display is confined now?

[tidal oak]

its physics

[tidal oak]

8 elite*

[short gust]

yh

[agile yew]

Sorry 8 elite yeah

[tame saddle]

8 elite yeah

[worldly geyser]

it is, the argument is just not every CPU of the same name undervolts just as well to the same degree

[main dock]

so i just cant take anything you say seriously

[agile yew]

Screens and inch smaller right?

[short gust]

what

[tame saddle]

Whatever convos can be a rollercoaster

[tame saddle]

Then?

[agile yew]

the odin 2 has a 7inch display right?

[tidal oak]

100%. no chip is created equal they are literal snowflakes lol

[agile yew]

Or am I high

[tame saddle]

Nah. 6" lcd

[tidal oak]

only the odin 2 portal has a 7"

[agile yew]

Aaaaaaah okay that clears up all my confusion

[main dock]

theres just no point to this guy if he's just talking to himself and not considering what other people say

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Disengaging is best. Heh

[worldly geyser]

I guess the convos can end up feeling very whatever

[tame saddle]

Hah. Accurate

[worldly geyser]

but yeah Odin 2 is 6" LCD, Odin 3 6" OLED

[main dock]

getting an odin2 day 1 wouldve been the best value handheld imo. seems like it can really last at least 2 gens of high end emulation

[agile yew]

I was comparing it with the portal by mistake, didn't realise it had a bigger display

[short gust]

eh blue rip

[tame saddle]

Probably smart they didn't change it much. Most people like the original size/ergos. And bumping screen size means the eventual o3portal would be a monster

[tidal oak]

or an odin 2 right now seen them go as low as sub $200 :3

[main dock]

unless elite gpu drivers start showing up

[tame saddle]

They will eventually

[main dock]

i have yet to see that, but great deal if you can find

at the same time, i just cant do lcd

[tame saddle]

And then it'll be another 2 or 3 year banger

[short gust]

elite drivers

[agile yew]

Contemplating an Redmagic Astra Tablet for High end gaming, but may just wait to see how the odin 3 and konkr pan out

[short gust]

bet it take 2 years

and we will get normal custom or official support

[tidal oak]

anyone want a banging deal on o2 portal

[tame saddle]

Just depends if you like attachments or integrated controls. I def prefer the latter.

[tidal oak]

https://swappa.com/listing/view/LZJI15186

w/ grip too

[tame saddle]

Market gonna be flooded

[main dock]

whats swappa

[tidal oak]

buyer/seller protected marketplace site. mainly for phones but they do consoles now too

all transactions must be through paypal and they go through the site

[worldly geyser]

uum ackshually steam deck LCD 64GB day 1 🤓

but yeah odin 2 day 1 was good value for sure

[main dock]

i shouldve said retro handheld or arm handheld lol

[worldly geyser]

yeah I got your point, just had to do it

I like the all glass front trend with OLED, it really makes bezels matter much less imo

they fade in with the device very well

guess fingerprints are the tradeoff

[tame saddle]

It's here to stay regardless. Time to embrace

[agile yew]

As do I tbh, but I cap out at ps2 outdoors. It's only when I'm home where I start streaming my steam and stuff.

[tidal oak]

im a fan of flips for the same reason.

[agile yew]

So figured maybe I'd benefit from the 9" OLED and slap a controller on it

[worldly geyser]

I guess it's mostly a thing on black models but I always get black

[tidal oak]

now the ultimate would be a flip android w/ a track pad that works. so you dont have to 1) smudge up your screen and 2) move your hands awkwardly up to the screen

[boreal hamlet]

I dont like that you can't really add screen protectors to these glass front devices

[main dock]

you can, its just not easy

[boreal hamlet]

Well you can it just looks awful

Or easy

[tidal oak]

agree i dont use screen protectors anymore

[worldly geyser]

I never used screen protectors tbf

just don't drop your device 🧠

[tame saddle]

To be fair, this looks flat at least

[boreal hamlet]

Or buy a case haha

[tame saddle]

The pain with the rp5 and portal was the curves

[worldly geyser]

yeah, I like cases for throwing them into backpacks

[tame saddle]

I bought some plastic protectors for my portal and they went on easy

[worldly geyser]

I guess some savages might just throw an RP5 with screen protector in to a backpack (?)

[tame saddle]

I prefer glass tho

[worldly geyser]

always thought that's what clamshell devices were for

if you hate cases

[tame saddle]

Was impossible to get RP5 glass protector on without bubbles. Or they'd show up later. Some people managed to do it, but I don't know how

[tidal oak]

flips dont need cases 😄

[worldly geyser]

yeah clamshell is a natural screen protection

[tidal oak]

i just toss mine (well, it has a grip and top skin) in my bag

[boreal hamlet]

More of a recent thing tho all these clamshells

[tame saddle]

Part of me wishes the Thor had inline shoulders. But I'll live

[worldly geyser]

with the thor I am mostly interested if it gets rocknix

not that I will buy one but still

#1 android hater

[tidal oak]

i passed on the pocket flip because of the dual screen refresh rate issue

[worldly geyser]

I am personally not into many DS or 3DS games so a dual screen is not something I will ever need I guess

ironically the games on those that I liked are the ones that are perfectly fine on a single screen

[tidal oak]

i have a ds and 3ds that i barely use and I still preordered the thor. FOMO

[worldly geyser]

lmao

[tidal oak]

to be fair, the flip2 is my favorite retro HH, so a more powerful flip even if I dont use the 2nd screen is 👌

[worldly geyser]

I just want a more compact x86 handheld then I can get rid of everything else

put the ryzen AI 5 330 into the Odin 3 shell and limit it to 12W or something

don't care if battery is kinda ass xD

I want to play PC indie games without winlator shenanigans

[tidal oak]

there needs to be a refresh of the steam deck APU but like, with zen5/6 tech

[tame saddle]

Konkr x86 baby. Fingers crossed

[worldly geyser]

the clamshell is def tempting and it has rocknix so you can dodge androind and have portmaster and native pico-8

[tidal oak]

i wonder if linux will allow 120hz top and 60hz bottom screens

[worldly geyser]

yeah nothing targeting that low of a power draw yet since the deck APU and mendocino after that

[worldly geyser]

if android can do it I am sure linux can

[tidal oak]

android can't

[worldly geyser]

oh

[tidal oak]

both screens need to be the same

[worldly geyser]

idk where the "also" came from them, my bad

[tidal oak]

oops, sorry

[worldly geyser]

yeah it's interesting in general

a smart technical solution would be to do BFI on the top screen only

on a hardware level so that in software both screens operate like 60Hz

[tidal oak]

BFI is so dark tho

[worldly geyser]

I am def no display engineer or CFW dev tho

[tidal oak]

i didnt care for it

i like crt-beam

[worldly geyser]

yeah I guess it depends on the brightness of the OLED panel

Samsung makes all the AM OLED panels I think, the newer ones should step up brightness a lot but I think nobody knows how bright this one gets

[short gust]

no

samsung/lg/tcl

boe

also others (but they just partners)

[clever halo]

EVEN 50/50

[short gust]

how

[broken moth]

Nothing is pinned here. Did someone do a mock up of odin3 next to a rp5?

[worldly sail]

People who realize the true better of the 2 options are placing their votes.

[leaden hollow]

Lesser of two evils more like

[worldly sail]

Tomato tomato.

God, that expression does not work well in text alone.

[upbeat summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/OiiYuI2PIO

Found this

[broken moth]

Thank you

[broken moth]

@oak nacelle

[worldly geyser]

TCL and LG mostly make large sized ones I thought

or do we have 6" WOLED screens?

[short gust]

-_-

TCL / BOE / SAMSUNG is main of tablets and phones

[worldly geyser]

I guess I somehow only saw phones using samsung OLEDs so far but I do not check out a ton of phones

[worldly geyser]

seems like the smallest WOLED screens are 27" atm

[short gust]

yes

[short gust]

M9 is TCL

[leaden hollow]

We need this

[broken moth]

I voted blue

[jagged shore]

Green would be so awesome

[agile yew]

Judging by your name, I can see why

[umbral heron]

Purple is winning again, but Blue actually overtook the lead for a moment earlier 👀

Still, I heard that there's also a poll on QQ, so it's going to be the combined votes of the Discord poll and QQ poll

[short gust]

Real-RGB panel by TCL (Nubia 3 Pro) its like RGB Tandem-Woled by LG

[tame saddle]

Save us China!

[woven maple]

gives us that pink or yellow

[quaint dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hmm-gif-27602743

[fringe frigate]

I can't handle how much aura this radiates

[quaint dust]

It hurts my eyes

Reminds of those cheap yellow weird flavored lollipops my grandma used to give me

[leaden hollow]

I would want yellow, but maybe not that shade in particular

[tame saddle]

Color le toilet

[fringe frigate]

Apparently people convinced Nicole/Andy to offer a 24gb/1tb variant

[jagged grail]

they should paywall it the same colorway as ayaneo retro power and itd likely still be much cheaper

[fringe frigate]

Currently people trying to convince them to not do the 8gb ram 8 elite base model, because it doesn't make any sense and swap it for the 8g2

[fast sable]

Why 24gb? Its just unnecessary 😅

[urban grail]

so overkill 😄

yeah base model should have 256gb storage min

[wary matrix]

Odin 3 Lite (8g2) - 8/128
Odin 3 Base (8Elite) - 12/256
Odin 3 Pro (8Elite) - 16/1024
Odin 3 Max (8Elite) - 24/1024

would be the best possible scenario IMO
Lite for those who want an upgraded Odin 2 for as cheap as possible, while the base Elite probably can still come in at the same price as AYAs version
the Pro SKU obviously being the one most will go for
with the Max SKU for enthusiasts

[fringe frigate]

16gb/1tb I think would be the optimal sku

Nice bit of extra storage, the processor might actually take advantage of the extra ram

24gb is super niche and kinda overkill

By the time 16gb of ram isn't enough, their fomo ass gonna want a new chip anyways

But yeah that is a good configuration, hopefully they listen

Otherwise I'm going to tell everybody who will listen to not buy 8gb ram 8 elite

[wary matrix]

Ultra better matches the KONKR Pocket Fit Elite 16+1tb SKU or else I'm gonna buy that

[worldly geyser]

who is about to conquer your pocket? find out by clicking here

[fringe frigate]

Falling for the IPS meme 💀

[subtle zenith]

Rip those that hope for 10k mah

[fringe frigate]

I think the battery was revealed a few days ago

I'm just glad it's not smaller

[urban grail]

yeah 8k is nice

the other models spoiled me for battery life 😄

[clever halo]

Ah yes, we have a new variant: Ultra

24gb of ram is overkill, but considering how new the chip is and the progress things, who knows

[wary matrix]

24gb of RAM is honestly more than I would have signed up for, but 1tb of internal makes it the only reasonable SKU 😂

[fringe frigate]

At least you'll be able to open Chrome with like hundreds of tabs

[hallow juniper]

Future proof for steam on arm

[errant sable]

[umbral heron]

Very nice!!
But apparently, Purple won on QQ, so no clue which color they’re going with x)

[errant sable]

Blurple

[umbral heron]

Lol if only.
They’re adding the totals up and going with whatever has more

By 40 people if what someone in the other server said is right

Purple won.
Yaaay, more purple devices…

Don’t get me wrong, love how the purple looks, but we have so many in this hobby already…

I’ma still buy the clear purple anyways later down the road as I love it a lot more than the other three

[umbral heron]

8gb model is extremely unexpected.
Think that’s a first for this chip

Bit disappointed about the storage configs.
Was hoping for at least 512gb on Pro and 1tb Max like on the Portal

[errant sable]

Just wait for the next o3 model

[dire narwhal]

This is the first time I'll say this for Android, but 8gb model seems like a bad idea to buy

Upgrading to the elite is for high end (eventual) switch, PS3, Wii U emulation and x86, all of which should require some decent amount of RAM

[subtle zenith]

basically reason i am sitting this one out

[umbral heron]

Was likely getting either the Pro or the Max anyways

[subtle zenith]

and will deide based on the compatibility when Portal version of 3 releases

[umbral heron]

I suppose, but you don’t find it weird that Thor Max gets 1tb, but O3 Max only gets 512?

[subtle zenith]

+my portal should be here tomorrow

[umbral heron]

Idk, that seems a bit backwards to me knowing the chips

[errant sable]

No

Just get a sd card it would probably be cheaper or close

People in this hobby prob have at least like 2 sd cards already i know I do lol

[umbral heron]

I do not.
My best is a 128gig.
It’s also been said many times already that buying a Thor Pro + a 1tb card is about the same as getting the Thor Max which gets you more ram

[errant sable]

The max launched with 512 on the og o2

[umbral heron]

This isn’t me saying I’m not getting an SD card tho. Absolutely going to get like a 1tb card

[umbral heron]

Not sure what point you’re making here.
I think expecting improvements to things like internal storage is not unreasonable.
Keep in mind that things like Switch updates/dlc (if you don’t patch) and Winlator use internal storage

[subtle zenith]

i reached the point whre i am mostly upgrading so i just pick the sd cad from the device i plan to sell to the device that arrived 😄

[clever halo]

Tbh, the Max being 512 isn't an issue for me

Tbh its more than enough space to put all my old games on and save my SD for Gamecube, PS2, and such

[umbral heron]

It’s not too much of an issue for me either thankfully, but it’s something that should be improved if it can be imo

[tame saddle]

Lol. Who the fuck is making these stupid demands

[tame saddle]

This is at least a sane take

Max def seems like the sweet spot

Normally id say pro. But the fact that they went with 8 elite means that if you're not getting this for android gaming/winlator, there's probably better choices out there

[umbral heron]

I keep devices for a long time, so I might be going with either the Max or even the Ultra if I can afford it next year

24gb/1tb is so tempting as a config for long-term use

[subtle zenith]

i will probably do Pro or Max on portl version when that happens.... dependinh on how the hgh end compability will be at that time

[umbral heron]

Mostly waiting for confirmation on whether we’re getting clear blue or clear purple since blue won on Discord, and purple on QQ.
I think it’s purple since it won by more votes on QQ, but they haven’t confirmed for certain which I find interesting

I like both a lot, so picking whichever one they’re doing.
Shame that they can’t just do both for cost-related reasons though…

[autumn obsidian]

purple won?

[umbral heron]

Seems that way.
Blue won in Discord by 17, but Purple won by 40 on QQ

[autumn obsidian]

lame

[umbral heron]

Purple has more total votes

[umbral heron]

Yeah… so close yet so far :c

[leaden hollow]

16/512 😐

Why are they like this

[urban grail]

because moneyyy 😄

[umbral heron]

Ig bc of how pricy the 8 Elite is? I definitely would not have minded paying more for more storage though

They’re giving us 1tb on Thor Max, lenme get that sweet, sweet internal storage on the O3

[sweet bolt]

8gb with an 8 elite feels illegal

[urban grail]

think we have that option with the ultra spec

[umbral heron]

Much like the Thor, I’m not buying this for a good while.

Max + an SD card would meet my needs well enough depending on price

[leaden hollow]

It really should be

[umbral heron]

Some people use these moreso as streaming devices, right?
Retro Handhelds was showing on stream Monday that the 8 Elite had even faster decoding time than 8gen2

I can see the 8gb model making sense for people who do game streaming

Definitely feels really weird to see though

[urban grail]

lot of money to spend on just a streaming device though

[umbral heron]

For certain

Need to go at least Pro anyways for Clear Blue or Purple which are the colors I want

[urban grail]

min spec for this should be 12/256gb for certain but yeah, going to be interesting on pricing for this

[errant sable]

I think that 8/128 is so they can try and hit that lower 300 price point

Def gonna see this prob in the 500 range for the ultra

[fathom oyster]

What could you possibly need the 24 gig version for

[leaden hollow]

No idea

Doubt that's useful even for winlator

[umbral heron]

Only way I see it being useful is if SteamOS Arm becomes a thing in the coming years

[swift nacelle]

I never doubted purple

[umbral heron]

There might be some niche Winlator stuff that might use it

[errant sable]

one thing I hope they make better is the sd slot ejection

trying to push down to get it out with my sausage fingers is a task

[umbral heron]

Very nice color that I like a lot for certain.
Bit strange they haven’t already confirmed it’s the color they’re going with though

They confirmed a lot quicker for the Thor White buttons

[swift nacelle]

I agree

[umbral heron]

Someone suggested in AYN server that they might be discussing whether to just do both despite costs or not.
Could be that I guess.
Might also be going through the votes and seeing how many were alts/botted?

It was an extremely close vote

[novel panther]

I bet they wished they'd never offered lol

[umbral heron]

Heh, yeah.
Regardless of which one wins though, I enjoyed seeing how back and forth the poll was the whole way through

Don’t think we’ll get another poll that close again

[clever halo]

Despite the compatibility issues, I'm actually really interested in the Odin 3. Both this and the Thor are probably my closest ideas to dream products. Just wish they'd make more interesting colors xDD

[umbral heron]

Clear Blue is interesting enough to me, but would like to see more cool colors yeah

Solid blue, clear red, even green or yellow, that sort of thing

[tame saddle]

Solid any color that isn't GC indigo please

I beg

[clever halo]

Gimme metallic blue

Or hot pink

[tame saddle]

Metallic blue would be my endgame

[clever halo]

I would love a forest green (metallic or normal) variant

[tame saddle]

Green would be awesome.

[umbral heron]

I’d like a green too, solid or clear.
I love my clear green Anbernic SP

[oak nacelle]

Denim

[fathom oyster]

Is it just a rumor or has valve hinted at it

[lethal magnet]

People found proof valve is testing proton for ARM, but its probably for their Deckard VR set

[lethal magnet]

Clear Green handhelds are amazing! RP2S was GOAT and I love my SP as well 😉

[swift nacelle]

Not unlikely since igg could offer them more flexibility in that regard

[tame saddle]

I'd guess it's IGG because they probably weren't planning on releasing it so close to Thor drop

People are more forgiving when it's an IGG sale over storefront as far as timelines go

And clearly Ayn wanted to match Ayaneo on release

For those who don't live the handheld life I'd assume they're also planning on trying to offer a competing products when everyone heads to IGG for the konkr too

"I'm oblivious and these have the same specs but this one is $30 cheaper"

[kindred crypt]

get the feeling they are going IGG because they are less confident it will sell well (as opposed to Thor where the demand was through the roof) and want the extra marketing exposure from a longer IGG campaign

[ripe stirrup]

Doubt its anything to do with that, at least don't make sense for why they chosen to go direct site for o2 mini and igg for portal

[umbral heron]

Don't think it's less demand necessarily as the Odin3-General chat has actually been even more active than the Thor one in their server, but I do think them using 8 Elite might contribute more to costs

[tame saddle]

I really do think it's to possibly draw IGG sales away from Ayaneo

[umbral heron]

You mean Ayaneo?

[tame saddle]

And is as simple as that

Yeah. My b

[umbral heron]

All good. Just wanted to be sure that's what you meant

[tame saddle]

Like undercut them on the same storefront with OLED and otherwise matching specs. And it's more in the face of anyone who goes there

But I do think its also a rushed release schedule

And expectations of delivery timeline

Like whether storefront or IGG for a product like this, people always seem to be more forgiving to something on IGG

Even people in the know

[kindred crypt]

but then the Pocket DS was on IGG as well

the Thor was clearly announced to draw attention away from it

[subtle zenith]

Well yeah especiall to those people that complaining pocket ds is too big

[tame saddle]

Maybe they didn't think think they'd win in that regard. Cause people would see difference in screen size. Other option being maybe they were trying to limit sales to something reasonable, even tho that didn't work 😆

I doubt at the o3 will sell as well as the Thor, at least on release

[kindred crypt]

not even remotely close

[errant sable]

how many have ordered the thor already

[oak nacelle]

Traditional form factor will likely outsell the niche design

Calling it

[ripe stirrup]

Doesn't apply for ayaneo at least if you look at the sales of their recent releases

[errant sable]

1300 orders isn't bad for the pocket ds even tho the thor came in hot

[oak nacelle]

This is an Ayn channel

[ripe stirrup]

Yes, doesn't necessarily make it any different

People have been asking for a dual screen, people have been asking for a clamshell from AYN.

Thor is both.

[oak nacelle]

[leaden hollow]

The niche design in question being modeled after the highest selling handheld ever made

[tame saddle]

Maybe in China. They've never been huge on DS titles

But I've had normies ask about Thor who don't even know what an Ayn is. Lol

O3 also has a lot of competitors which more or less do the same thing

[clever halo]

The Thor is basically a dream for many people who want something from proper DS and 3DS emulation that's actually not an arm and a leg, so it's not surprising that it's gonna sell well

[kindred crypt]

the Thor offers something that almost no other handheld does so demand is higher, this is a very crowded space now so handhelds have to fight for relevance

[clever halo]

The Odin 3 will sell because it's not only the successor to the Odin and the even greater Odin 2, but also a device with the 8 Elite that is (hopefully) going to be cheaper than most phones and Tablets with the 8 Elite

Sure compatibility is an issue rn, but that's gonna get fixed with time. Eden devs are already working on a Vulkan rework for Eden so that should fix a huge chunk of the switch compatibility for the 8 Elite and even then, we can also wait for possible turnip driver in the future.

[subtle zenith]

yeah kinda why i am sitting this one out

and maybbe upgrade my 2 portal (thats arriving tomorrow-ish) to 3 portal in a future , depending on how the compatibility develops in the meantime

[ripe stirrup]

egg ns supposedly have alot less issues on elite devices if people are desperate as well

[urban grail]

better to wait on this one, as buying into a device just expecting future compatibility when that is up in the air doesn't feel like a smart decision 😄 i like the look of it though

[umbral heron]

It depends on how long you’re keeping it for as well I’d say

I’m waiting a bit, but not necessarily all that long a wait since I’m likely keeping this for many years

Enough to see reviews, what its battery life is like compared to Odin 2 (Portal) and how the support develops

[urban grail]

that too 🙂 it'll still crush the majority of what many will play. Switch will be the main iffy one but ive never felt wholly comfortable emulating that at least on android

[wind delta]

Is there any news about 8 elite driver support for emulators? Where should I go to keep up with the latest news?

I am not able to apply 60 fps hack for mario sunshine (very bad frame rates) and my 8 elite phone doesn't handle the game super well at 30 fps either. I assume it is driver issue?

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Most likely. To get updates you probably need to follow the repos for the driver development

Releases · K11MCH1/AdrenoToolsDrivers · GitHub https://share.google/uV5Q2hDAUTDiAfZLj

[umbral heron]

There’s already been news of a Vulkan backend rework for Eden, so that’s exciting.
Even without that though, I just want a smaller Portal which is what this basically is

[tame saddle]

They might have social media accounts too. Not sure

[wind delta]

Emulators on my 8 elite phone have been underwhelming for me... A lot of games don't run great with dolphin, and eggNS overheats the device like crazy. Nethersx2 runs fine though.

[subtle zenith]

damn that sounds even worse than i though .. i thoight the problem si mostly switch

[tame saddle]

It's also a phone. So there is that

[short gust]

egg ns shit

[wind delta]

I am playing super mario sunshine with native resolution, and this morning I was trying to get the shine "Petey Piranha Strikes Back" it wasnt able to hold 30 fps.

[tame saddle]

Shocked dolphin runs badly. Should be fine. But anything switch gonna struggle

[wind delta]

Kirbyorgotten land is playable on eggns with no major rendering issues at 30 fps but generates lots of heat. Other emulators I tried either crash, can't render scene, or only like 22 fps.
I am just doing some testing. not endorsing eggns emulator tho.

[tame saddle]

That said dolphin is only like 70% fully compatible I think. So it might depend on title

[umbral heron]

Odin 3 will be actively cooled, so I don’t think heat will be a major issue for it thankfully

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Makes a big difference

Phones and tablets always gonna run hotter and slow down

Also never been recommended egg before. Didn't even know it existed 😆

[fast sable]

Back in the early days it was either eggns or skyline

[wind delta]

I didnt know about it eithet. I found it in a reddit post discussing ns emulation on 8 elite lol

[fast sable]

When eggns was first released you could only use it with a specific controller as well

[tame saddle]

Haha. That's wild

[ripe stirrup]

remember russ mentioning in one of his video he did not have issue with super mario sunburn, which already has the 60fps enabled by default iirc

[wind delta]

Yes but that hasn't been my experience with mario sunshine. I started with 4x resolution like him, but very soon I started to experience frame drops which made the game really hard to play, so I decreased internal resolution. Soon enough I now play at native resolution. The only hack I am using is a 16:9 widescreen mod.

[ripe stirrup]

tried both opengl and vulkan?

[slender notch]

The elite did have some issues with temperature at least in the laptops. It was the first time they used their CPU i believe instead of the ARM design.

[wind delta]

Yes both

[slender notch]

They've been using GPU for awhile. Maybe I have it backwards.

[wind delta]

I am just assuming redmagic is tune more aggressively than oneplus

so he gets more performance in his video

[ripe stirrup]

i think he didn't even turn on the max/high performance mode for ps2/gc etc

or maybe try loading the latest official drivers
https://github.com/zoerakk/qualcomm-adreno-driver/releases

[wind delta]

Thanks I will try this one on the commute back from work

[oak nacelle]

Still just on my Deck, nothing else has appeared worth buying

[feral olive]

Don't forget what happened with Odin 2 and Linux

[autumn obsidian]

rocknix exits for the odin 2 tho

[short gust]

Odin 3

[wary matrix]

$369 for the Base SKU

[short gust]

yeah 30$ less than ayaneo :/

not much, but it oled instead lcd

[wary matrix]

The Base SKU with 8/128 is pointless for an Elite device tho

You already would be at $419 for the Pro with 12/256... which should be the Base SKU you are going to ignore

$469 for the MAX
and $549 for the Ultra...

Nah thx, I'm out

[short gust]

is it realy 8gb?

[wary matrix]

We protested, but yes the Base SKU is 8/128

MAX 16/512 for $469 is bad
ULTRA 24/1024 for $549 is worse

Literally the only SKUs that make any sense for an 8 Elite device

Hope those would be retail prices and EB is $50 less

[torn saffron]

Ayas $399 isnt final tho.

[short gust]

yeah they can make cheaper

oled tax 40-50$

usually

[torn saffron]

I think they knew ayn would be using the elite and left it open intentionally.

[short gust]

strong feeling that Ayaneo will win that battle easy

[torn saffron]

Thats not really the difference in panel cost tho, they just know people will pay more for it.

[short gust]

all what they need just drop base 12-256 for 370$

and thats all for AYN

8-128 for 340 can be also

[torn saffron]

Ayas ips panels are usually good so id probably take it for anything less than a $50 difference. The software for android can go a long way. But we will se how they both review if theres any major issues elsewhere.

[tame saddle]

Not sure me buying neither is a win for ayaneo but pop off 😆

Think I'll just sit this one out

No real reason to buy either one imo. No cheap 8 elite with OLED. No OLED with more functional chipset

[clever halo]

Im just enjoying Earthbound rn while watching this

[tame saddle]

Like wait a couple months and we'll get an alternative better than both

[lament adder]

From who? Retroid?

[clever halo]

Or get one cheaper from secondhand market few months after that

[tame saddle]

Honestly RP6 may be the winner 😆

[clever halo]

But rn the Thor is likely calling my name... that or I just keep my 2 Mini

[tame saddle]

Like I'm not desperate enough for 6" screen to get an LCD and I'm not desperate enough for 8 elite to pay those prices...

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I'll just wait for my Thor and be happier. Lol

[lament adder]

Imho RP6 will be a monodispaly Thor

Not bad

If with the right price

[tame saddle]

Yeah. And likely come with a chipset more than capable for most emulation

[wary matrix]

RP6 will be a Odin 3 with d-pad on top and the SD equivalent of a D8300

[tame saddle]

Sounds good to me. Heh

Will also be like $100 less

Only downside is I bet the ergos will be meh again

[wary matrix]

probably more if the Odin 3 really starts at $369

[lament adder]

8gen2

[wary matrix]

I honestly hope they do the same shell as the Odin 3

[wind delta]

I got slightly higher framerate in the overword, but when I go to the mission where there is sludge, still lags quite a bit. I still had to drop to 1x resolution.

[tame saddle]

It's bad when the only real temptation for the o3 or konkr is the ergos and trigger stops 😆

[tame saddle]

Please. I beg

[wary matrix]

Honestly betting on Retroid to not fuck this up now

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Who knows. They have time to still fuck it up

There's not a single flat surface to the front glass, or something

[wary matrix]

Odin 3 is probably dead to me, as I neither will pay for a 8/128 SKU that will completely bottleneck the SoC

nor do I intend to pay $500+ to get reasonable amounts of internal storage

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Shame

Was really hoping the competition was gonna make one of them take a bath

[wary matrix]

AYA actually being the more reasonable folks, offering a G3 Gen3 variant

[tame saddle]

Instead we'll get $369 unusable o3, and $368 LCD fit

[wary matrix]

if the 8 Elite is pushing the Odin 3 prices towards 400 onwards, it's an incredibly stupid move from AYN

[leaden hollow]

Hey people asked for it 🤷‍♂️

[wary matrix]

I would laugh my ass off if AYA just pulls a base SKU out of their hat that is 12/256

it makes literally no sense to even offer a 8/128 8Elite device

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Well $369 was for their g3gen3

[wary matrix]

nah $329 was for their g3 gen3

$399 for their 8 Elite

[tame saddle]

Oh yeah. Sorry. Fuck that marketing

What a cluster

[lament adder]

<399...

[tame saddle]

$398 now. Lol

That they've seen Ayn pricing

[wary matrix]

yeah, who knows where they end... really depends on AYN

[wary matrix]

I think they will try to match them at $369

[umbral heron]

Wait, do we actually know the prices for the O3?

[tame saddle]

I dunno. I could see them just being like, $30. Fuck it. Were worth that

[umbral heron]

Don’t see em anywhere

[lament adder]

No, it was a fake

[wary matrix]

not officially yet, but 2599 yuan ~ $369 is in the room

[tame saddle]

Gotta remember ayaneo is somewhat dependent on launch profits compared to ayn

[lament adder]

No, it was a fake...it was about Odin 2

[wary matrix]

fair enough then

[tame saddle]

Oh. Lol

Fuck the Internet too

[clever halo]

PFFFT

[wary matrix]

anyway, going far beyond $300 for the useless base SKU would be funny anyway

[leaden hollow]

We've been fooled

[tame saddle]

Y'all out here making it harder for me to spend money

[clever halo]

XD

[leaden hollow]

Still I expect around 350 for the base

[wary matrix]

I'm more excited for the rg476h at this point

[tame saddle]

Would be hilarious if ayaneo bit on that rumor and dropped prices

Ayn probably put it out there themselves

[tame saddle]

If only they swapped shoulders from the rg477m

I mean I can guess why they didn't. But still

[lament adder]

I would see the code -r...really want to understand what they mean for "budget entry level"

[tame saddle]

Lol

God only knows at this point

8 elite chipset with e-ink screen

[wary matrix]

I mean the Pocket Air Mini for $140 will probably run a G99 knowing AYA

[leaden hollow]

If it's g99 then doa

[wary matrix]

but given the 476h having a vastly better screen anyway, I don't give two shits about their budget 4:3

[tame saddle]

It is a sick screen

[worldly sail]

Eh, I can see them going for a stronger chip than G99 for this, but its mainly dependent on them either using cheap chips they’ve used before (so maybe D1200 like I previously suggested), or them using newer budget chips that are stronger than a 3 year old Helio.

[tame saddle]

I mean eventually someone is going to use a g2

Someone has to

[worldly sail]

Yeah, but I can’t see that someone being AYANEO for the device planned at $140.

Even Ayn or Retroid, I’d call bullshit on them using it for that price.

[tidal oak]

Isn’t g2 gen 2 confirmed for the rp6?

[short gust]

it is

[worldly sail]

It is, but not for $140, which was my own point on the matter.

[tidal oak]

sorry i was replying to zeelobby

[slender notch]

What are you basing this off of? Like any program that would benefit from the elite would need lots of ram?

[fringe frigate]

The ram would often bottle neck games or applications that the elite could easily handle otherwise

Most devices with this chip offer either 12 or 16 variants

Also the low storage is a problem for a device that at the moment seems aimed for native Android games

[worldly sail]

Ram’s not much of an issue, Storage is the much bigger problem.

[slender notch]

I don't think this is aimed at Android games at all but I get the reasoning. I was just curious if it was specific situations.

I wouldn't personally get only 8 GB for this but again was just curious.

24 GB is wild though lol

[worldly sail]

Even on lower end devices that aren’t aimed at stuff like Switch, it’s still pretty easy to run out of space just from shader caching and texture packs, if not from Android games in general taking a lot on their own.

[slender notch]

Oh yeah storage should be like 512 GB minimum these days.

[worldly sail]

Hence why I’d agree on Prog’s comment that 8/128 should probably just not be an option anymore. Cause what’s the freaking point of offering only 128GB for a chipset as powerful as the 8G2, much less the freaking 8 Elite?

[worldly sail]

Like, if they’re still gonna have 8GB Ram, it should just be 8+256/12+512/16+1tb.

[main dock]

im poor gimme 6+128

[wind delta]

Is there an 8 elite device with 8 GB of ram? I thought all phones started with 12 at least

[swift nacelle]

Yes, apparently they want to do another black only base sku to market it as „starting from $359“

(I took a guess on that price, nothing official)

[wind delta]

yeah I mean that's like the only one?

[swift nacelle]

All 4 SKUs are color coded

Should be easy to make out

[torn saffron]

Like, you can make do with swap memory, but why take the performance drop from that when spending on a top tier chip.

[ripe stirrup]

oppo pad 4 pro

[errant sable]

Still not price huh

[fringe frigate]

It's like buying a Bugatti but then you don't spring for the heated seats, smh

[main dock]

Wow beast specs

Do I really need the Thor…..

[jagged grail]

so how much will preorders and retail be

[spare willow]

At least $5

[lusty lynx]

I get that AYN has to release new hardware to make money, but this feels a bit too early to be releasing a Odin 3.
Like I understand there is a small niche for a medium sized Android handheld with an OLED screen and a more powerful chip, but it doesn't feel like it's the right time for an upgrade even if it has been two years since the Odin 2 was released.

[clever halo]

They're probably not even going to properly release the Odin 2 till late this year, early next. Even then, these companies live by their semi-annual release of new devices and giving people a new toy to want for power or form factor reasons.

This market thrives off the newest threshold, even if it doesn't feel like it's the right time to release it

[ripe stirrup]

Other companies spamming new releases at a far higher frequency, I would say Ayn is already pretty relaxed in this aspect

[trim fossil]

Ayn would likely be at the Odin 15 if they replicated other companies frequency

[clever halo]

And AYN tends to play the long game with their devices

[lethal magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

The don't have to release them often, they also have their Retroid brand

Do you guys remember what Taki said about Chinese manufacturers? They have to release their devices often to stay afloat ( they dont sell software) and keep people employed, otherwise they would do nothing in between the releases

[novel panther]

Purple and Blue both confirmed

#1407304950857465856 message

[short gust]

see? i knew it

they just lie

[umbral heron]

YEEEEESSSS

https://tenor.com/view/letsgooo-letsgo-lets-fucking-go-gif-23896241

[worldly sail]

Yo! That’s actually sick!

[subtle zenith]

lol

i guess hey saw how split people were on both QQ and discord

discord was 50:50 an QQ was 45:55 or something like that

[urban grail]

or they were always going to do both colors 😄

[dark sundial]

Can they do a poll to decide prices too

I bet it won't be 50:50

[umbral heron]

Looks like I’m getting the Clear Blue O3 when I can afford the sku I want sometime next year 👀
Just need prices now. Not expecting this to be very cheap
Super excited for my first AYN device

Thor is the more exciting device overall to me as a clamshell enthusiast, but I don’t wanna spend over $250 for even the Lite model until I’ve seen how the hinge on that holds up

Assuming it does hold up, it will likely replace my aging New2DS

[short gust]

prices bad

369$, 419$, 469$, 549$

[umbral heron]

Prices are not confirmed.
Those have already been shown to be fake

[short gust]

nope

confirmed

[umbral heron]

#1407320894317264896 message

[umbral heron]

I will just share my opinion as well that if those really do turn out to be the prices, the only awful price here is the base sku, which no one should be buying anyways.
Pro is ok, and Max and Ultra would be way better priced than I’m expecting

That Max pricing is cheaper than the O2P Max, which is the other Odin I’ve been considering

Despite having less storage (and I have expressed that being an issue), I will likely personally get the O3 Max if it’s around that price for the smaller size and clear blue.

[torn saffron]

I think people underestimate how much more expensive the 8 elite is compared to the 8 gen 2. Especially now being nearly 4 years old.

370 even would be a great price with the right ram.

[errant sable]

Im excited to see reactions

[umbral heron]

Keeping my expectations realistic myself. May buy the Max even if it ends up a bit more than the O2P Max

I just love that the O3 is smaller

[torn saffron]

Was genuinely shocked to see <399 from aya for an elite. Since not only is it a much more expensive chip, but its still in high demand from a lot of major companies, so getting discounts is out of the question. And even getting non modem soc fabrication for a chip this new is crazy

[short gust]

Aya will give 12-256 screen

[torn saffron]

People are going to lose it if its more than 300 for base. Lol.

[short gust]

370$ not good for elite, u dont understand how much it cost ...

[torn saffron]

If they do it would be a really good move. Ram and mobile memory is dummy cheap.

[umbral heron]

I genuinely don’t know why we have an 8gb Elite sku.
That one would have to be priced a lot lower than we expect for it to be remotely viable

[short gust]

base Elite flagship Phone (cost way more than handheld in production) cost now 370$ its Realme GT7 Pro 12-256

[umbral heron]

8gb Elite just sounds like an oxymoron as was put before in this chat 🗿

[short gust]

and they put handheld for 370$ 8-128, clean scam

[torn saffron]

Where the hell are you seeing the realme gt7 pro for 370, the phone is 580 new.

The lowest im seeing used is still 400

[short gust]

u realy care about retail prices?

[errant sable]

Lolll

[torn saffron]

And thats only 1 listing.

[short gust]

😄

ill show

[torn saffron]

Its not a valid comparison if your going off used prices.

[short gust]

new

''used'' 350$ (activated)

not cheapest cn marketplace, but i cant now login to pinduoduo

[wind delta]

To follow up on my issues with super mario sunshine on dolphin with my 8 elite phone, I got to Noki Bay level today, at 1x resolution I struggle to even get 25fps. The device doesn't generate any noticeable heat. I wonder if I did something wrong and the emulator is not utilizing all the power on this chipset.

[ripe stirrup]

That's using the highest performance mode (if available) of the device?

Maybe some weird issue with the governor? Any battery/power saving settings? Does it goes faster if you are actively tapping/touching the screen.

Might need someone with another 8 elite device like those tablets to test

[robust chasm]

this doesn't seem right at all and mario sunshine isn't a difficult game to run

[autumn scaffold]

I dunno i dont have an 8 elite

I thought it was only switch that had compatibility issues

[wind delta]

I can also try some other gamecube titles. Sunshine is the only thing on my phone right now.
This phone can do 60fps kirby forgotten land with eggns in the first 2 levels (some frame drops here and there) and then it gets so hot eggns will shutdown itself. So I feel like dolphin on my phone is not using full power.

I am using the supposed performance mode. Phone is oneplus ace 5 pro.

[umbral heron]

Might genuinely be a thermals issue causing problems in Dolphin, not sure

[kindred crypt]

you have no idea how much I needed to hear that lol

[wind delta]

GoW 2 on Nethersx 2 at 5x res in comparison. Super smooth at the beginning at least.. So it might be just dolphin...?

[umbral heron]

Did you download Dolphin off their website, or from the Play Store?

Might not seem like it matters, but I believe the Android version on the website is more up to date

[ripe stirrup]

Are you playing with controller or the touchscreen on dolphin?

[wind delta]

I will dig deeper into dolphin settings.

[wind delta]

Controller

[ripe stirrup]

Can you try touching the screen during gameplay to see if there is any difference? I kind of remember some funny older devices that play around with the clocks speed when you are not actively using the screen, some application can override that some don't.

And make sure to try latest version of dolphin from the official site as Joel mentioned.

[wind delta]

The version number seems latest. I will reinstall just in case.

It seems that not many people have an 8 elite device now. I will do more tests on my phone to share my actual emulation gaming experience with this.

[umbral heron]

AYN and Ayaneo (Konkr) both making 8 Elite more accessible will help quite a bit

Well, Idk if the Konkr will have 8 Elite specifically

There's confirmation it's an Elite chip, but I forgot if we know the specific Elite chip as well

Should be 8 Elite if it's under 400

[swift nacelle]

It says elite where says G3Gen3 for the the base version.

So this will be an actual snapdragon elite chip and not the name of the sku

[ripe stirrup]

Maybe Arthur will surprise us with the 8 elite gen 2 (rumored to be renamed to 8 elite gen 5) or the weaker 8 gen 5.

"world 's first XXXXXX"

[short gust]

no

Elite 2 (8 Elite Gen5) exist only on test partners phones, not separate contract sail

[ripe stirrup]

Okay 🙂‍↕️

[short gust]

road map

first will be xiaomi

[kindred crypt]

oh my god

8 elite gen 5, seriously

what the hell is wrong with Qualcomm naming scheme

how do they even keep these names straight internally

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Worst marketing ever if it's not an 8 elite 😆

Watch it be 8 elite 2

[swift nacelle]

It can’t be for that price and launch window

[short gust]

Elite X86

ik bunch of cpus which can be fit in device for 400$

and they capable to run even ps3/ps4

BUT ayaneo a bit lazy :/ and need premium everything

so they will stay with arm (or no? D:)

[hallow juniper]

Konkr fit is x86

[tame saddle]

I know. What I'm most excited for tho

[leaden hollow]

So is the konkr fit going to be around the same size as the pocket fit

[errant sable]

a bit smaller than ally x

[strange fulcrum]

Not a lot of driver support for their elite Snapdragon

[strange fulcrum]

8000 battery should last a while compared to the pocket slip 2

[errant sable]

that's for the x86 model g16ran mentioned

[strange fulcrum]

I do like that it is smaller than the ally x

It makes it more pocketable, if you have those big cargo pants pockets it might just work I seen a dude once put a PlayStation 1 inside of them

Lol

[tidal oak]

is this gonna be HX370? lol

[tame saddle]

God I hope not

Dead on arrival for me then. I'm not doing a candybar with hx370 unless it's large and in charge

I'd love a cheaper chip for some x86 indies and retro tho

[worldly geyser]

I guess the ayaneo is 7"

thought somebody said it's 6"

[tame saddle]

The android one is. But the x86 is 7

[worldly geyser]

true but "flagship performance" is gonna mean HX370 most likely

yeah that sucks, I want a 6" one with a 330

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Bummer. Hopefully they'll at least do two skus like they did with android

Yeah. Still my goal. I'd be ok with 7 if it was edge to edge but I doubt this will be

[worldly geyser]

they claim it's super compact but it looks barely smaller than an Ally X which I consider fairly large

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It's a bummer. Back to looking for a battery for my Loki max

[short gust]

Cronos: The New Dawn 2025

[wind delta]

Update: after trying many different settings on the phone and in dolphin and touch vs controller, i am getting slightly better frame rates. But this first shine in Noki Bay still can only get 30fps with 1x res. Cant hold 25 even at just 2x.

[lusty lynx]

You may want to uninstall that version of dolphin and try a newer or older build off of the dolphin website. Was it a nightly or Canary build?
You may have grabbed a bad build that got fixed in the next update.

[wind delta]

Hmm I just grabed the android download link from their website. I don't see nightly for android.

nvm my phone didn't load the whole page for some reason. Found it.

[main dock]

Preorder wen

[errant sable]

hopefully next month or nov so they can push those thors out fast

[umbral heron]

Looks like it is indeed both blue and purple we’re getting

[rigid breach]

ayn does what retroidoesnt (dunno if this is true but wanted to make this joke)

[clever halo]

HOLH

@tame saddle

[tawny bluff]

Ayn wins again

Once again keeping a sane price:value

[wraith haven]

that’s really aggressive pricing wow

[tame saddle]

Holy crap. That's not bad

Damnit. Lol

[clever halo]

You got your Wish xDD

[urban grail]

Huh.

[novel panther]

Cheap as hell

How they making a profit on that Ultra wtf

[clever halo]

Like, excluding super early because not everyone will get it that soon, even Early Bird and Retail are incredibly priced

[subtle zenith]

gives me great hope for pricing whn the portal version happens

[tawny bluff]

70 dollar difference for pro. Yeesh

[oak nacelle]

Man this looks like a great opportunity to buy a 2 off someone with low impulse control

[clever halo]

HUH

I was right...

Neat

[urban grail]

time for Ayaneo to do their price cutting

yeah prices are better than I expected tbh

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Def feel like they announced early

To compete with aya

But yeah. Think I'll have to go pro. Unless Aya does some crazy price slashing

[fathom oyster]

Is the ultra really that much worth it over the max for the price?

[clever halo]

I had a feeling the base wasn't gonna go above 350 because thing is: this isn't a phone with all the expensive bits and proprietary parts. AYN can afford the sell it lower than a normal price phone, especially long term

[clever halo]

Storage wise yes, RAM wise.... can't say atm since the Elite is still a relatively new chip

[umbral heron]

That ultra pricing is insane, Jesus

Very happy the O3 Max is also lower price than the O2P Max

[tame saddle]

I mean if your choice is max + 1tb micro SD vs ultra. It's about expected

[main dock]

Who’s joining the ultra club

[oak nacelle]

Future proofing, multitasking, windows emulation

[tame saddle]

Ultra is still wild tho

[main dock]

Ultra should be my horz endgame

[tame saddle]

Like that's a ridiculous amount of ram for android. Even with that stuff

[main dock]

Do I really still need the Thor?

I don’t play ds

[clever halo]

Yes

[main dock]

Fine

[subtle zenith]

endgame is but a stepping stone

[main dock]

Towards?

[umbral heron]

Max is good enough for my needs.
I’d still get an SD Card even if I got the Ultra, so may as well save money by getting a cheaper SKU that’s still overkill for my needs x3

[oak nacelle]

The next release

[clever halo]

Tbh, the Pro or Max is all I need. Ultra is way overkill and Base is not enough.

[main dock]

Also would just be waiting for gpu drivers

[umbral heron]

Good that the non-early bird pricing is also so nice

Was not pre-ordering this, but this will be my first AYN device :)

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-all-might-my-hero-academia-boku-no-hero-academia-mha-gif-16557252

Yeah I’m getting ultra

[trim fossil]

not that I'm going to buy the Odin 3 (at least not now) but I wish Indiegogo was like Kickstarter in only collecting the money when the campaign ended rather than upfront

[main dock]

YOLOOOO

[lusty lynx]

That's some good pricing on the ultra. May have to grab one if there is a super fun discount.

[main dock]

Just shake it off

[trim fossil]

Id likely go for the Max if I were going for it. Or stump up for the ultra just for the fun of it

[trim fossil]

I mean I tell my bank account that all the time

[nimble hatch]

BREAKING NEWS:

Premium Handheld Manufacturer AyaNeo found dead in a ditch in Detroit. More at Eleven!

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-fist-arthur-fist-gif-arthur-fist-balled-up-arthur-fist-balled-up-gif-arthur-gif-gif-12329908026355646401

[umbral heron]

I was just about to make a similar joke haha

[main dock]

(Arthur)

[tame saddle]

Still don't understand how that happens. Lol

[nimble hatch]

Seriously.

Pocket Air vs Odin 2, Pocket DS vs Thor, Fit Elite vs Odin 3.

[urban grail]

oh don't tell Cole that, he'll curl up in bed crying for weeks 😄

[nimble hatch]

I feel like Ayn just exists to fuck over Aya Neo in the Android space.

[main dock]

Cole train?

[nimble hatch]

Coleslaw

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/coletrain-gif-5142972397628145510

[tame saddle]

The real murder blow would be for them to announce x86 konkr fit and then have Ayn be like, Loki 2 is coming

[tawny bluff]

ayaneo chose to be expensive and "prieum" they chose their downfall

[nimble hatch]

Nah, this is definitely Ayn being undercut-y

[subtle zenith]

Maybe AYN always meant Ayaneo , Yeah Never

[tame saddle]

Which like, good for us. Lol

[fathom oyster]

so if/when turnip drivers come around eventually for 8 elite, will they go by the adreno numbers that being 7xx for 8g2 and 8g3 for compatibility and so any drivers for 8 elite should/would be compatible with 8 elite 2 with the 8xx gpu? sorry i dont know how they work exactly just wondering

[nimble hatch]

A Snapdragon 8G2 in 2023 for $300? Snapdragon 8 Elite in 2025 for $350 regular price?

Definitely intended to undercut AyaNeo specifically.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. So far they haven't made it far with a8xx

[fathom oyster]

I see, thanks

do we have any news on 8 elite 2 dates?

[umbral heron]

People were expecting the base model to be at least $400.

[main dock]

Ultra will be able to emu switch 3! Order yours today!

[nimble hatch]

I was expecting the base model for the Thor to be like $350 lol

[umbral heron]

$299/$329 with the two different early bird pricing for the 8gb model is a steal.
Wouldn’t buy it for the chip it has, but it’s more viable than I expected

[nimble hatch]

Was not expecting a 865 Lite for $250 and the base to be $300.

I'd say it's a decent pick for "futureproof"ing Android emulation. And if you Really wanna run PS4 era Steam games on GameHub at like 30ish FPS.

[umbral heron]

As far as I’ve heard, the 8gb 8Gen2 can already emulate a good amount of Switch.
Once driver support is there, I can absolutely see the 8gb Elite being a great deal for some

Most should probably be going Pro or higher

[main dock]

Just buying the elite for the hope it’ll get proper drivers. Daily’ing the Thor until then

[subtle zenith]

tbh i a mostly sitting this one out cause thx to Thor being a thing , my preferences and needs for "top end android" changed to bigger screen=better

[nimble hatch]

From what I've heard you really want the 16GB for Winlator/Gamehub to be at it's best.

[subtle zenith]

will probably grab O3Portal if combatifility is there by the time

[umbral heron]

Yeah, getting Max for Gamehub and futureproofing

Gonna especially want the 16gb ram if SteamOS/Bazzite ARM ever becomes a thing

[nimble hatch]

I don't really need more than the 8G2 tbh. I'm happy capping out at Wii/PS2 with a good amount of Switch.

[clever halo]

Thing is tho, the jump from the 8 gen 2 to the Elite is night and day, so I expect when driver support or the Vulkan rework for Eden comes, the library for Switch should work flawless on the elite chip

[subtle zenith]

that too yeah

i got Portal yesterday and most i played was PSP and streaming from my computer in net room

[main dock]

When did o2portal come out? It would most likely be a year after?

[nimble hatch]

Granted, I could see myself getting an 8 Elite well in the future, just for more overhead power leading to less heat for the systems I like.

[ripe stirrup]

Chances for some even more discounted super early bird/super fan limited units? 🤔

[main dock]

Just from brute forcing?

[umbral heron]

For sure.
Hence why I think that base model will genuinely be a great deal in hindsight if you’re looking to emulate Switch with eventual driver support

[subtle zenith]

+- a year iirc

[fast sable]

Im getting the Thor now and will look at the Odin 3 if support improves nearer to the 8g2 level of compatibility

[subtle zenith]

there was mini inbeteen

[clever halo]

Brute forcing when the Vulkan rework comes through, proper working support when drivers come in

[nimble hatch]

The Odin 2 came out 10/2023 and the Odin 2 Portal came out 01/2025

[clever halo]

So about a year and a half

[subtle zenith]

and between that was mini

[main dock]

Too long. I want it noooow

[nimble hatch]

Odin 2 Mini in 06/2024

[tame saddle]

I mean knowing Ayn the 8 elite will be in their next 4 handhelds so there will be plenty of options. Figure in a year or 2 8 elite Thor... That's pretty bonkers

[umbral heron]

There’s a decent chance we’ll be getting the O3Mini and Portal as well once support is improved

[main dock]

Odin 3 mini with 5.5” oled?

[clever halo]

PLEASE

[subtle zenith]

18months might not be enough for compatibility to get to the same level as sd8g2

[clever halo]

God please

[nimble hatch]

If they skip an Odin 3 Mini, which I think is likely given how the O2M apparently did quite poorly, I think it'll just go Odin 3, Odin 3 Portal, and maybe Thor 2.

[main dock]

But new shiny……

[ripe stirrup]

Don't think there will be a mini unless they find a smaller oled, not much difference between 5.5 and 6.

If they use ips/miniled again (which is fine to me), people sure complains.

[nimble hatch]

Could use the RP5 screen, isn't that 5.5?

[fast sable]

Fingers crossed. They could definitely do a few devices with the Elite for sure

[umbral heron]

RP5 screen is 5.5 yes

[tame saddle]

Depends how many makers outside Ayn and ayaneo use one. But I'd bet 2-3 years for a full 8 elite unlock. That being said, it still runs a lot, and spending the money that in 2-3 years will still be a great device isn't the worst investment. Thered have to probably be a major breakthrough on x86 to make it obsolete

[ripe stirrup]

Won't be significantly smaller than the 6" in Odin 3 to be a "mini" model

[umbral heron]

I’d prefer seeing a 5 inch screen and making the Mini even smaller with a bezelless design

Never realized how big the bezels on the O2Mini were until I looked at it again

[tame saddle]

Feel like people only really bought the mini cause ps handheld

It really wasn't that "mini"

[nimble hatch]

I mean, it's only barely bigger than the RP4

And in person a good deal smaller than the Odin 2

[tame saddle]

It's still thicc tho

[clever halo]

It was pocketable and felt the most imho like a console to me

Yeah it was thicc, but not like ungodly thicc

[tame saddle]

Like more pocketable. But not exactly light

[nimble hatch]

Getting rid of the ergonomic bumps and going from 6inch to 5inch feels quite dramatic.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I guess

[errant sable]

Also might be harder to cool the chip in the mini body because even the gen2 got a little toasty in that smaller shell

[nimble hatch]

I don't really notice the bezels on mine, since I do have a black unit. The bezels just kinda blend into the shell for me.

That and bezel usually don't bug me.

[tame saddle]

Gotta remember, PlayStation handheld probably coming in 2026 as well

[umbral heron]

Now that you mention that, right, it doesn’t have bumps.
5.5 can still work then if they keep the bumps removed

[main dock]

I was just gonna ask for this lol

RP5 was an amazing size

Seems like o3 is not that much bigger

[clever halo]

I still looking at that with the salt shaker at the ready

[nimble hatch]

Yeah the screen for my O2M does get quite warm while playing Wii at 3x and PS2 at 2.25x The back gets kinda warm, but not uncomfortably so. But noticeably.

Anything lower than that and I don't notice it at all.

[main dock]

Biggest flaw for the rp5 for me was the dpad on top

[umbral heron]

^
Part of the reason I considered Flip 2 was the Wii U layout which is my personal favorite.
Stick top benefits with the symmetrical plus of the PS layout.
It’s a niche layout admittedly, so I’m ok with the standard layout AYN uses

[worldly sail]

They could probably compete just by announcing the >$400 is the retail price and that they don’t have a 8+128 option.

Now will they? That’s the question.

[gilded edge]

It sure is a massive jump

[subtle zenith]

the theorteical potential if Elite is amazing

[clever halo]

But we need the people to actually take advantage of it in order to utilize it

[subtle zenith]

but as of right now it wont translate to real emulatio performance outside of the hassle that is winlator

thats why i am sitting it out for O3Portal depending on how compatibility develops over time

[slender notch]

Yeah, this is tough because it's more about the future potential. Unless a bunch of improvements happened in the past few months that no one seems to have covered.

[gilded edge]

man this thing is stronger than a LOT of desktop x86 chips. Including the Ryzen 3600 in my desktop

[slender notch]

Well yes but look at the SD Elite laptops

Powerful but compatibility issues like crazy

[subtle zenith]

theoretically

[slender notch]

Now maybe it's better now, not sure

[subtle zenith]

but i dont care for math numbers ... i want real world performance in realworld situation

[main dock]

What benchmark are these

[gilded edge]

that is just microsoft being ass

[worldly sail]

First time in a while that I’ve seen people get excited for potential alone.

[slender notch]

LOL

You assume it was only MS working on that?

[gilded edge]

my 3600 is only 1600sc/ 6900mt

[ripe stirrup]

Alot is on windows. And from what I know it has gotten better since windows added support for avx, avx2 and some other extensions in their prism emulator.

[worldly sail]

Main reason I’m just gonna avoid this is because I already did that with the RP5 and it’s Linux Support, and while it’s still ok nowadays, it’s not as great as what anyone was initially hoping it would be. So I’d rather just wait until the potential is actually reached.

[errant sable]

Thr ayn and eden discord going to burn when they have issues not running games and don't know why

[subtle zenith]

but there has been rumours of valve developing equivalent of proton for Arm (due to their upcoming headset)
and if that happnes that gonna be monsrou help for handhelds like this

[slender notch]

It was multiple things not just Windows for Arm but yes MS didn't put much development into it until thoae came out.

[errant sable]

Some just blindly buy stuff lol

Let's see what the rp6 gonna look like

[slender notch]

I hope for sure that somehow it gets focused and improves even more.

[ripe stirrup]

Even if anything comes out, I don't think it will work/work smoothly on existing mobile chipsets like this

[slender notch]

I want this to be awesome for people

[gilded edge]

We Just have to force ayn hands to have proper Android 16 implementation, with desktop mode and Linux

[subtle zenith]

iirc their headset SoC is basically XR version of SD 8 Elite ... so that is promising

[main dock]

Was there a windows build made just for elite?

[worldly sail]

Like, if they announce Arm Windows support via dual booting, or hell even something wild like Valve supporting it with the Arm Proton, then fuck waiting I’m all in.

But as is, I’ll wait until 8 Elite is in a better place, since it’s surprisingly a good bit more than just Switch that needs help, and unfortunately the other options I’m talking about don’t even get support anymore (I don’t care that Vita3K isn’t particularly the best in terms of emulation, I still want it).

[ripe stirrup]

I don't think it will be stacked on top of android. Will require their arm steamos or whatever which might not be able to get working on this

[errant sable]

This is why im just going for the konkr gen model i want stuff to work now and not wait and see if it gets more support

Ayn def gonna have more models later

[ripe stirrup]

One thing to consider is that ayaneo will probably release another 1-2 gens of device before Ayn come out with a new flagship chip for o4 or similar

[errant sable]

Its like every 2-3 years for ayn

Let's just hope ayn can deliver on time

Launching 2 different andhelds around the same time might slow them

[clever halo]

They've managed to actually deliver on time since after the Odin 1 and Loki days, so hopefully they don't fuck up

[errant sable]

Loki had pretty bad deliveries no? Some people waited over a year

[clever halo]

Plus it's about a month to a month and a half different between the Thor and the Odin 3

[clever halo]

I meant to say after

[gritty temple]

I'm all in on in-home streaming with Artemis and Apollo, this chip is supposed to be the best when it comes to that. Already own the 2 Portal and Thor pre-ordered. Kinda want to go for the cheapest option here just to try out the streaming.

[slender notch]

I would go more then 8 GB ram

It's not that much more expensive and more usable and sellable

There's 0 pinned messages in here?

[gritty temple]

You're 100% right. I just don't see this becoming my main handheld. I want a bigger screen for that. I wonder when they'll announce the Portal 3.

[slender notch]

Maybe never?

These companies don't always follow the same patterns

Probably when they've sold enough and need something new to sell.

But also I bet depends on if there's something better to make and what other companies are doing.

[gritty temple]

Don't break my heart now!

They sourced this 6" screen themselves, I'm sure they want to use it as much as possible.

Just don't think that's large enough for playing big AAA games via streaming for me.

[clever halo]

I think the Portal is good enough rn as a streaming device

Not much really beats it

[subtle zenith]

its great

[gritty temple]

My favourite device for sure.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Everyone seems to be calling it Omni handheld killer but I highly doubt it

Also gonna be locked to ps most likely

Portal 3 gonna be a while. This isn't even gonna ship til 2026 most likely

[clever halo]

If Sony's weird game output and general strategy the gen is anything to go by, Im looking very cautiously

[tame saddle]

It's still gonna be a banger tho. As bad as PS portal was at release, it's still a pretty cool device on sale. Haha

[tame saddle]

I'm sure that's what they'll do

Keep a more premium price and be like, well we're premium

We don't compete with poor heathens

[worldly sail]

Eh, I wouldn’t even say it’s premium price, considering it would literally just be them not having the same lowest price tier option and instead having a 12/256 option for $20 less.

[tame saddle]

Again their biggest bungle was describing what the konkr line was at all

[trim fossil]

I feel buying something in the hope of future progress is always setting yourself for disappointment

[tame saddle]

Should have just been like, we like the name konkr

[errant sable]

They said like cost effective

[tame saddle]

Cause now it's not conquering much...

[worldly sail]

But even then they’d still have to do that, they can’t just treat it as the early bird price.

[tame saddle]

$20 more for OLED seems like a no-brainer to me. But I get it

[errant sable]

They already won me over with the 330 gen3 model

Hope they go lower again

[tame saddle]

Ayaneo will still have $600 as the MSRP price cause habbit

[short gust]

they will

Odin 3 look much better now

[errant sable]

I mean they have 3 konkr models atm

[short gust]

yh

G3, Elite, x86

[errant sable]

Gen3/elite/x86

[worldly sail]

Yeah, that’s honestly the second best price I’ve ever seen for these high end handhelds (first now being the current Odin 3), you get the equivalent of an overclockable 8G3 for only $330.

[short gust]

its not equivalent

elite much more powerful

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-17563483835665589874

[short gust]

but without drivers its nothing