AYN Odin 3

[summer oak]

I really don’t wanna go to AyaNeo discord lol

Those guys are weird

[fringe frigate]

I don't think they're capable of making a device under $200

What's the cheapest device they've ever made?

[summer oak]

I mean yeah you go sub $200 and you get into the territory of retroid and anber- wait

[sonic orbit]

The phone is its own thing, with magic in the slide and all.

[worldly sail]

Yeah, AYANEO’s going a bit wild with their upcoming line up (whether it’s a wild-good or wild-bad depends on if they can avoid fucking up on any of them).

[sonic orbit]

But yeah, Odin 2 shell with the new oled would have been cool but alas.

[ripe stirrup]

Would have preferred the konkr or Odin 2 design just with their new screen as well ...😴

[umbral heron]

Odin 2 design but inset dpad maybe?
Could’ve been cool yeah

But this being a smaller Odin 2 Portal is perfectly fine

[nimble hatch]

I mean yeah. How else will they sell an Odin 3 Portal in a few months?

[umbral heron]

Heh…
Yeah, probably would get the Odin 2 Portal instead of this, but there are definitely people who felt the Portal was too big

If this is the same 6 inch OLED from the Thor and it also has a G3 Gen 3, it will still be a good device in its own right

Just not my preference for a candybar handheld

[nimble hatch]

I still find it amusing to think that they called the Thor "Thor" just so they wouldn't have any kind of confusion with customers and Ayn selling a new Odin 2 branch and the Odin 3 so close together.

"We can't call it the Odin 2 DS, people might be confused why we're selling a new Odin 2 at the same time as the Odin 3"

"Call it Thor then, we need a third norse god anyway."

[umbral heron]

I feel like calling it an Odin 2 Flip would’ve still worked, but you know what? Thor is a much cooler name for their first flip handheld, so we take those

[nimble hatch]

I would've mostly worked, but I can imagine that they'd be more cautious. I mean, we're still like two months out from the Thor's release and they're doing the start of Odin 3's tease.

Would definitely feel weird to be slapping Odin 2s everywhere lol

I have said it a few times now, but I have said in the past I would've traded my Odin 2 Mini for an Odin 2 Flip in a second. And then Ayn unveils the Thor. Which is basically that but Better™.

[umbral heron]

The dual-screen came as such a surprise to me.
I was certain it’d be a single-screen flip handheld for their first one

Even bigger surprise to me is the price

Way cheaper than I expected for what it is

[nimble hatch]

I was expecting $350 for the Base model tbh. And not expecting a Lite model at all.

[tame saddle]

It looks flat so it's an instant win. Can maybe get a screen protector on it

I'm on board. I've never minded glass fronts. I just hated that putting a protector on the RP5/portal was fucking impossible

As soon as there was bubbles it just ruined the look

It is super odd they released a couple price drop promos in a row then just stopped

I honestly think they were like, let's wait to see what Ayn does

[trim panther]

Meh

Was hoping for something a bit more comfortable looking like the Odin 2 and portal while being slightly slimmer

[light pagoda]

The Thor can't be called an Odin device. 2 screens

[dire narwhal]

https://youtu.be/mUf13ignOxk?feature=shared

Nice chunky grips

[leaden hollow]

It's so over

[nimble hatch]

Full sized sticks are nice.

[west abyss]

Are we sure they're full sized sticks and not just bigger caps like on the Portal?

[nimble hatch]

No clue tbf

[tame saddle]

Fuck yeah. Give me some cube grips. Was one of my main draws to the konkr, the ergos

[ripe stirrup]

Stick does look bigger than o2?

[nimble hatch]

Hard to say with a 3D render to be honest

[ripe stirrup]

Just happy they kept the back buttons, but seems they not doing the trigger lock thing

[nimble hatch]

If they got rid of the back buttons for this thing I would've been so pissed.

I'm not even planning on getting this thing whatsoever.

I just would not like the pattern that'd start to set/continue.

[tame saddle]

No one had that plan besides ayaneo

And to be fair I'm not sure where I'd even use them. But they are a cool feature to have

[ripe stirrup]

I like ayaneo starting to implement a Xbox button, at least for some handhelds. Hope others will follow

[tame saddle]

Didn't know it had that. Guessing it's for game pass?

[worldly geyser]

is it over for ayaneo?

[tame saddle]

I don't have a subscription so if probably remap it anyway

[tame saddle]

Depends on prices as always

[worldly geyser]

this is 6" 120Hz OLED right?

looks like a beefed up version of the RP5 which is a good thing

[tame saddle]

Yeah screen is undoubtedly going to be better

[worldly geyser]

the screen to body ratio reminds me the most of the RP5

but yeah 6" 120Hz OLED is great

[tame saddle]

Yeah but with the grips on it and sticks in the right place it's basically a better rp5

Not to mention it's guaranteed gonna have better internals

[worldly geyser]

yeah with a more high end chip I expect stick up top

if the grips are good d-pad might be comfy too tho, hard to tell from renders

[tame saddle]

I expected it on the RP5 honestly. Playing with those sticks is the worst without an actual grip attached.

[tame saddle]

It's what makes the dpad on the non Xx cube actually usable.

[worldly geyser]

yeah and on the 406H

[tame saddle]

There's enough to hold onto that you can shift your position to make it comfy

[ripe stirrup]

Would be useful when navigating steam big picture mode when streaming, and in future windows as well when they push out the new controller friendly interface to other device.

[tame saddle]

Tru. Hadn't thought about that

I usually just remap stuff to my liking. And for that I appreciate the number of buttons Ayaneo includes

[fringe frigate]

The two buttons on the back are something I didn't think I would want or need but you eventually find a use for them

If nothing else they are great for save state and load state

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I'm always down for more buttons

[trim panther]

Oh grips ok ok

[wary matrix]

Retroid Pocket 6 looks fire

[tame saddle]

It's basically what it is, and if the price is good I'm ok with that

[wary matrix]

Will probably replace my O2 Mini and RP5, but oh well

[nimble hatch]

You say that like you get rid of handhelds prog

[tame saddle]

Makes me curious how far away the o3m is heh

[nimble hatch]

Going by when the O2M released compared to O2, about eight months.

though that's also if they even bother making an O3M, I heard hearsay that the O2M didn't do that well.

[tame saddle]

Hmmm might wait then. Heh

That doesn't shock me

Everyone says they want a PSP/vita shaped device, but all call out sick when one drops

Didn't help that the miniled was kinda meh

[nimble hatch]

I almost want to get a GPD Win 4 just so I can have the oversized Vita and oversized PSP

[tame saddle]

If you take pics from further away no one will ever know

[nimble hatch]

Especially with my O2M

[trim panther]

Wonder if it’ll have 2 soc options like the Thor? I’d take a 8gen2

[subtle zenith]

So yeah about what i expected ... 02 but with design language of portsl

[ripe stirrup]

Ideally two soc options, one elite and one older chip

[runic ferry]

Just woke up. So a 6 inch portal essentially

[fast sable]

Seems like it

[nimble hatch]

Just go nuts with the 8G2 like Anbernic does with the H700.

Do it cowards

[subtle zenith]

yes

so yeah i am grabbing friends 200€ portal 😄

[runic ferry]

This may replace my o2 mini depending on size comparisons but yeah seems like a copy and paste/resize 😅 im sure more went into it than that. But i like to jest 🤣

[subtle zenith]

unlike with thor i am not seeing usb hole to extrapolate size 😄

oh never mind ... usb hole is in the video

time for usbholestimation

[torn saffron]

Why not just use the panel, we know its a 6in 16:9 panel so you can just work from there.

Width should be ~5.22-5.23in or ~13.28cm

Thats of the panel.

[subtle zenith]

shush ... usbcestimation is more fun

[torn saffron]

Just eyeballing it im guessing between 190 and 220mm

You know what, gonna narrow that. 210-220mm

[dapper warren]

what is the cheapest X1E device you can buy from a reputable source in the US now?

[torn saffron]

Probably a refurbished Ally. Assuming you mean Z1E because i have no idea what an X1E is.

[subtle zenith]

so screen si about 13,5 usbc holes wide 😄
and device aboout 22

[dapper warren]

by X1E I mean Snapdragon Elite and I also mean new because I want to compare it to Odin 3 to make a point

[torn saffron]

X elite is the windows chip. Youre looking for the 8 elite.

But really we dont know that they are going to use. I honestly dont think theyll use the 8 elite since its not very good for high end emulation.

Cheapest right now that will be close to a proper handheld 8 elite is the redmagic phone. Since it actually has a fan.

But the konker pocket fit elite looks like its going to use an 8 elite and is starting for much cheaper under $400 but its not available just yet.

For the redmagic
https://intl.redmagic.gg/pages/redmagic-10-pro?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paidads&utm_campaign=22853242001&ot_source=google&ot_medium=paidads&ot_cam=22853242001&ot_grp=&ot_ad=&utm_content=pmaxads&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22857138667&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_L_FBhDmARIsAItqgt6z93L-vjsVDO-Z2iowc64CT8FirGSjR-DBtO4pqV9qV8O0I9yE3YQaAtwDEALw_wcB

[dapper warren]

I wasn't aware of the 8 elite (SM8750), thanks

BTW X elite is not just the Windows chip

[dark sundial]

With 6 inch screen and bezel less, Odin 3 will be smaller than Odin 2 right?

It’s a nice size

Has someone made a size estimation assuming the screen is 6 inch?

[lethal magnet]

Looks like improved RP5

with nicer - full sized grips

[subtle zenith]

so looking at the results of my usbcholestiamtion

render is not up to scale

as that would amke it smalelr than rp5

[torn saffron]

210-220mm

[fast sable]

Yeah I was thinking about 200mm

If the screen is something like 132mm

[lethal magnet]

I like the form factor, they should do LITE version with 8g2 😉

[subtle zenith]

so it looks basically like if Portal and rp5 had a child

[tidal oak]

Pass for me

I’d rather have a 6” flip. Have a portal as well but Thor could replace

[subtle zenith]

backshot if anyone isnt able to see the vid

[tidal oak]

She got ass

[fast sable]

Thats my feeling. The Thor is just more interesting to me

[tidal oak]

Android emulation is already peak for me with 8g2.

[subtle zenith]

sideshot

[tidal oak]

Unless steam comes out with proton arm, faster chipsets aren’t needed

IMHO

Winlator is a mess

[fast sable]

Agreed. The newer chips dont have good support so that loses me straight away

[tidal oak]

8g3 would be a small bump. I see it as an upgrade for Odin2 owners who didn’t go for a portal

[fast sable]

If someone is still on the og Odin 2 then an 8gen 3 plus 120hz OLED panel would be a nice upgrade. As a portal owner, Im good lol

[trim panther]

Linux plz

[lethal magnet]

That would already look like incest xD

[trim panther]

Anyone able to do a mockup of an rp5 with a 6” screen and compare it to rp5 and portal

[jagged grail]

anyone made an overlay of the odin 2 and odin 3? assuming 6" screen it will be overall shorter cause no bezels right

[subtle zenith]

so to crosscheck with my guess from few days ago, nothinh surprising

[subtle zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-smiling-thats-normal-in-alabama-aimee-normal-aimee-gif-12113261

[jagged grail]

RP6 will just be a top dpad version anyways

[dark sundial]

Odin 3 feels like Switch 2. The upgrades are too predictable and boring. It’s probably good for Ayn though.

[trim panther]

Yep should have gone triple screens

[trim panther]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[wary matrix]

But shiny new toy

[hot sleet]

Unless they're sending out review units....even though I've got sub 1K subs....

[hoary arrow]

I'd be curious what other details they will reveal soon

I'm hoping the stick themselves will be changeable and be provided to those who buy them

[lethal magnet]

I'm somehow interested in Odin Thor and Odin 3 now, my only problem with Odin 1 and 2 (I had only Odin 1 because of it ;)) was that it was a little bit too bulky, so slimmer version is tempting

[worldly geyser]

got an Odin 3 bingo card at hand?

[subtle zenith]

i am curious for SoC though 😄

[tidal oak]

My guess is sd 8 g3 to keep prices below $300

[jagged grail]

thats a nice drop in overall size for the same screen vs odin2 if so

5" mini, 6" regular, 7" portal

[trim panther]

Is it still going to need extra grips to be comfortable with the sticks like the rp5??

Or is that ass gong to be enough

[tidal oak]

Ass looks pretty big

[exotic path]

From the looks of it the Odin 3 seems to be using the larger optional sticks from the Odin 2 Portal so... Maybe?

[trim panther]

Dunno which device to get at this point 😅 want something bigger than my rpmini I think

[subtle zenith]

abxylute 3d

[trim fossil]

Interesting they've reverted back to the BAYX layout after the portal switched to ABXY

[runic ferry]

Hmmm wont replace my mini then

Not sure where this fits for me. Mini is great when i want a smaller device. Portal for bigger. Do i need a medium device in my lineup? 😅

Maybe i will just wait for odin 3 mini

[subtle zenith]

We do ... but that's where Thor fits between our Rp5 and upcoming O2Portal

[robust chasm]

I'll probably be getting this rather than Thor

[dark sundial]

For me, Thor sparks joy but Odin 3 doesn’t.

[robust chasm]

I'm going to wait for all dual screen devices to come out before getting one

[dark sundial]

That’s a good move

[robust chasm]

I skipped Portal so this makes sense to me

so 8 gen 5 please

[dark sundial]

I am trying hard not to get Thor but I am thinking about it every day Probably should quit Reddit and Discord until reviews come out

[robust chasm]

I just keep thinking to myself, what I am I gonna use the second screen for

[clever halo]

At least the Odin line of ergonomic bumps lives on

[subtle zenith]

tbh i originally skipped portal too, but came back to it cause my needs/usecase change since then + trucker friend is offering it for cheap

[errant sable]

Ima wait for retroid to tease something before I decide at this point

[runic ferry]

For that price. 100% portal

If i remember the price they offered correctly

[subtle zenith]

yeah + i am selling my old O2 so i can easily ge that amount back from the sale 😄

[brazen rune]

I think this is my goldilocks device! I found the Portal too big, I liked the RP5 but it was a little underpowered and I didn't like the dpad on top. This just sits right in the middle, plus with the curvy backside I should be able to rawdog it without having to buy another tpu grip

[narrow sable]

Odin 3 looking like a giant rp5

[umbral heron]

This makes me excited for how much smaller the O3Mini could be with a borderless 5inch OLED screen

[umbral heron]

There’s a decent chance this could at least match the Konkr with a G3 Gen 3 pricing wise, if not at worst a lil more than that (8gen2 Thor starts at $299, but also has a second screen adding to costs though not sure by how much)

[subtle zenith]

thats portal 😄

Odi3 looks like kid giant rp5

[feral olive]

RP5 XL

[jagged grail]

so, what are the odds O3 will have a plastic texture/quality similar with steamdeck/retroid i.e. grittier and less prone to fingerprints than having the same one as O2 series

[kindred crypt]

okay

so nothing super exciting so far

but if it's confirmed to be at or around the size of the original Odin 2 (or smaller) then I could see it

I'm game for a smaller Odin 2 Portal that's easier to carry around

disappointing to see they did nothing with the sticks though

it does seem to me like this has to got be smaller than the original Odin 2

or have a bigger screen than 6" but that's unlikely

[tame saddle]

Except flat glass, better ergos and sticks still in right place. I'll take it

[tame saddle]

Yes. Pretty cool they took criticisms and just tweaked it to get o3

Forreal tho. The whole it has a glass front so portal = 3 is just dumb. If that's their new design language all their devices are going to have it

Like I'm not sure what people were expecting design wise? Huge handle sticking out of the middle to make it a giant N64 controller?

Your not gonna get any major design deviations without getting the o3m where the design choice is just copying someone else's existing design

[kindred crypt]

I can't help but think the Thor is going to cannibalize this one, if both have the same 6" screen

you get better ergo, slightly better chip (probably), bigger battery (probably), I suppose for some those are enough to choose the Odin 3 over the Thor

[tame saddle]

Oh. 100%. But that's fine. There's also people who just don't care about ds

Also depends what they put in it chip wise

[clever halo]

I think the Odin 3 will be the mainline device, but i think the Thor will do fine

Some people want that extra screen or a proper DS/3ds handheld device

And not more candybars

[tame saddle]

The ratio of those who want DS is probably higher in here than their market as a whole

[kindred crypt]

they should have announced Odin 3 first, bait everyone into pre-ordering it then come up the Thor and anger everyone

[tame saddle]

For someone who wants to just play a lot of android games, streaming and maybe some winlator this seems like it'd be the winner

Eh. People would just cancel unless they were like ready to ship

Just think they wanted to get out before Ayaneo dropped konkr/pocket DS so they didn't lose too many possible sales

[clever halo]

It's a winner for me with it being possibly smaller than the OG Odin 2 and having a stronger chip (that isn't the elite) with a OLED screen

It's not Odin 2 Mini small, but I'll take it

[jagged grail]

probably saving a 7" or larger for o3 portal

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It looks amazing. Only reason people aren't overly excited is because Retroid/Ayn has released other bangers, which isn't a bad thing

It's not like people aren't excited because the competitíon is killing them

[clever halo]

The market has so many banger choices

You really can't lose per se rn

[tame saddle]

I don't mind them keeping the screen size consistent with their lineup. If they moved o3 to 7, then what portal to 8. Soon we'll be walking around with TVs in our hands

[jagged grail]

5 mini / 6 regular / 7 portal sounds nice

hopefully they get a 5" oled too for o3 mini

[tame saddle]

They have to. Would be nutty if they tried miniled again

[clever halo]

They know they would have to go OLED

Nobody is taking MiniLED anymore (even tho MiniLED itself isn't bad at all, it's just the panel they chose wasn't the best)

[jagged grail]

or anything close enough to 5"

[kindred crypt]

judging by the usb-c port and headphone jack it does look smallish

more like a RP5 XL than an og Odin 2

does this replace both the RP5 and the og Odin 2? 🤔 but then I won't be able to use the DS addon properly (if at all)

[clever halo]

Not if Retroid doesn't fix that shit

[kindred crypt]

on the topic of glass fronts

Nicole seems to imply that bezeless designs require glass fronts, otherwise you get bezels around the screen

so maybe it's not just a dumb fashion trend

[broken moth]

I enjoy the glass front handhelds I own.

[main lodge]

Fucking glass front

Can't escape this stupid ass trend

Yay I love my device to be a big glare producing fingerprint magnet pos

Pocket S2, Konkr Fit, Odin 3

Literally every fucking high end option rn

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

[boreal hamlet]

If people were ok with bezels they probably wouldnt keep doing it

[main lodge]

The glass front doesn't magically erase bezels lmao

[umbral heron]

Judging off the AYN server chats rn, good amount of people seem to like the glass fronts, so you’re out of luck 😔

[main dock]

ill take it....

[main lodge]

Rip, stuck in glare smudge hell, I'll probably get the Konkr Fit atp assuming it's gonna be cheaper since there's nothing else that's gonna sell me on Odin 3 now

Probably will get Ayns Super Dock though

[main dock]

Konkr lost me at lcd

[umbral heron]

It’s perfectly good to just buy whatever handhelds fit your preferences better.
I can’t really comment on if I dislike glass fronts or not since I don’t own any devices like that

Err glass fronts LOL

nice typo, me

[main dock]

I would rather have glass front than black smudgy Ayaneo plastic lmao

At least the glass is easier to clean

[main lodge]

The smudgy plastic isn't on the front of the device so it's a non issue, the Konkr unfortunately has a glass front too, but it's gonna be the same spec more or less but probably cheaper

If the Odin 3 decided to go 8 Elite I'd be going Konkr Fit anyway

[main dock]

Depends on device. For example, my dmg got lots of smudge in the front

You can’t really wipe it off completely

[subtle zenith]

does Conker have oled?

[main dock]

Lcd

[subtle zenith]

lol

[main dock]

I’m guessing Ayaneo will reserve oled for Ayaneo brand, lcd for konkr

[main lodge]

Hoping some early review units will come out for reviewers and some videos can drop around the time the pre orders for the Pocket Fit go live

[boreal hamlet]

Doesnt erase but does hide it behind the actual device

[subtle zenith]

Iirc they are starting production after thor ... so November at earliest

[clever halo]

Thor will probably be review units mid mid-September, first units early to mid-October

Odin 3 will be review units early October, actual units late October to mid November

[subtle zenith]

Nah

[novel panther]

Where did you hear "early to mid" October? Their official image only says "mid-October"

[subtle zenith]

Extend it by a month at least for O3

They specifically said no double production

You generall can't produce fast enough to ship 1 to people in midOcr , whole ship 2 in late Oct .... if production is sequentional

Well maybe if you send prototypes to reviewers

[clever halo]

I didn't see that, i was making a rough guess

[tame saddle]

Glass front hate is pretty polarizing. I think it looks nice

[tame saddle]

Which is such an odd thing to do considering the price difference isn't that great. "Here's top of the line everything, but we shaved off $20 to give you an LCD

[main dock]

they need to justify the difference between ayaneo as premium and konkr as value

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Just sucks that's where they decided to do it. The main point of interaction with the user...

Who knows. Maybe the elite comes with an OLED as well. But then I'd expect the screen size to be different also

Unless Ayn let Ayaneo get in on it

[boreal hamlet]

They were really set on using a 6 inch screen for the konkr

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Seems to be the primary driver

[boreal hamlet]

Probably should have just used 5.5 screen and called it the air 2 or something

[tame saddle]

Kinda like the bot screen on the pocket DS

[boreal hamlet]

They already have the evo which is 7inches

[tame saddle]

I think there's OLEDs out there that are 5.8 or 6.1 etc

The need to be exactly 6 seems detrimental imo

[boreal hamlet]

Arthur said there weren't any, so was just going by what he said

[kindred crypt]

not 16:9 though

[boreal hamlet]

Im not up to date on every phone screen thats existed

[kindred crypt]

people don't want elongated screens

[tame saddle]

Tru

[torn saffron]

At first it seems auper sleek in black, like my pocket s. Then after getting the retro evo its definitely way better with a light color. Hides fingerprints very well and feels pretty good.

[fringe barn]

how am I supposed to smell the electronics fumes if they are shooting out the back

[broken moth]

"Kailash, when it rises"

[main lodge]

Odin? AyaNeo are launching the Konkr Fit in September according to them

[subtle zenith]

Yes Odin we are in O3 thread

[main lodge]

Ah ic

[broken moth]

the more I look this the more I want it. glad I waited on the thor

[subtle zenith]

Ita pretty much what I expected.... which confirmed taht upgrading to Portal will serve me better in my current situation

[kindred crypt]

by the way

it's not a lot, but they did do a bit of offset compared to the og Odin 2

[subtle zenith]

Good that we're my main complains of O2 ... uncomfortable dpad ans meh screen

[broken moth]

This what I wanted from the RP5. M1/2 buttons are pushing me over the top. More handhelds need M1/2 buttons IMO

[clever halo]

They're offset enough to not be a pain

[kindred crypt]

I'm all for it as long as it doesn't make the device bigger

[lilac glen]

I'll just say Konkr has a more imaginative design

but I do like OLED better 😅

[broken moth]

They look offset as much as RP mini. Which is enough a differnce that make it great.

[quaint dust]

Depending on the CPU not sure it’s enough to replace my O2

[boreal hamlet]

Im surprised they added actual ergonomics bumps on this device

Thought they'd cater to the pocket people again

Or make you spend money on a grip

[main dock]

seems more like an upgrade path for rp5/SD865 or lower

[short gust]

it will

[main dock]

if not for the cpu, then oled screen for the O2 users

[short gust]

Odin should get G3 Gen3 (overclocked 8 gen 3)

otherwise it was 200% lose to konkr

or maybe they do dumb move and put elite ...

[quaint dust]

Maybe , don’t get me wrong I love the new design but have we seen pics of the back or sides?
I’ve only found pics of the front of it

[short gust]

didnt

[main dock]

im looking at it as a tiny bit bigger rp5

which is great to me

[fast sable]

The released a video which shows it

https://youtu.be/mUf13ignOxk

[broken moth]

Can someone please pin this video?

[subtle zenith]

backshot here #1407320894317264896 message

[quaint dust]

Thanks missed this

[worldly lantern]

If the Odin 3 has an OLED, really gives me hopes for an Odin 3 Portal with an even larger screen 🙏

[tame saddle]

My guess is it'd be same size but with new chipset/features

First was so successful I'd doubt they'd go huge

[fathom oyster]

Are we really even pushing the 8g2 to max tho

[tame saddle]

Of course not. But theyll need to do something. Just don't think it'd be screen increase

To be be fair it's probably a year off anyway

[fathom oyster]

Needs to be a whole face lift and no more glass front 💔

[short gust]

ofc in ps3/xbox/x86-64

[tame saddle]

Yeah. That ain't happening

Glass fronts are here to stay. The sales reflect it

[fathom oyster]

Still heavily software bottlenecked but yah

[fathom oyster]

Well when its the only one available for sale… lol

[short gust]

yeah, but every year less and less

[fathom oyster]

True

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I just don't see them going away. People seem to like them or don't care

[leaden hollow]

Yeah we are, power increases will still benefit switch and winlator

[tame saddle]

For the most part anyway

[fathom oyster]

Just the gloss is what gets me that’s all

And fingerprint/smudges as a result

[fathom oyster]

Yeah but then turnip needs to catch up too but i feel you

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Could at least go to some oleophobic coating or something

[fathom oyster]

Very true

Works nicely atleast for black bars

Blends into the whole device

And with devices like these where you emulate things with a variety of aspect ratios, black bars are almost always a given

[short gust]

wonder if in 2026 we will see Shadps4 or not ...

at least unofficial pc port

even gen2 enough to run many ps4 games on lower res

[fathom oyster]

Lol it took long enough for rpcs3 to come out on Android

And with how far development shadps4 is, i think it will be longer than next year

Then again idk the development of it really

I just remember bloodborne being somewhat playable i think

[short gust]

bloodborne fully playable half of year already

[fathom oyster]

Oh nice

What about other games

[short gust]

depend which one

[fathom oyster]

How many are playable rn

[short gust]

um, idk not easy to count

[leaden hollow]

Honestly there isn't that much point in ps4 emulation besides a couple of exclusives like bloodborne, since you can play a lot of those games through winlator

[fathom oyster]

Like is it showing promising results atleast for what’s currently playable

True

Ps5 emulation when

[short gust]

20% of all games like

[fathom oyster]

Ohh that’s cool

[leaden hollow]

No games

[fathom oyster]

Astro bot 💔

[leaden hollow]

True

[fathom oyster]

Lol

That’s really all i can think of

[leaden hollow]

We just need astro bot and demons souls remake

[fathom oyster]

Oh yeah

[short gust]

shadps5 exist 🙂

[fathom oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066913609822769185/1276343886389710888/ezgif-6-c27d53c407.gif

[kindred crypt]

in case you wonder what do you do with a chip more powerful than the 8 gen 2 https://youtu.be/3sfGVIWtkzI?si=fnQRbGUW2OdGRwCL

ff7 remake running natively is wild

[wary matrix]

it's funny how people are already contemplating different Odin 3 devices, while honestly it's hard to think about where they will go with it

the Odin 3 is most likely about 225x86
an Odin 3 Mini at best would be 210x86 (and no ergo bumps... honestly just sell a different backplate)
while the Odin 2 Portal is pretty much perfect as is and a SoC upgrade would be a hard sell if you already own it IMO, trigger locks are literally the only improvement, which I already hoped for on the Odin 3 😅

[tidal oak]

Odin 2 portal is perfect for me too.

[wary matrix]

well, maybe a Odin 3 Portal will have a 7" 1440p screen

[tidal oak]

With the grip

[wary matrix]

I like that I can take it off tho, if it would be build in I would honestly consider that a downside

[tidal oak]

Yeah I get that but also I’ve never taken it off lol

[umbral heron]

I think just having different screen sizes is good for having options.
I'm waiting to see if the Odin 3 will be basically a smaller Odin 2 Portal.

[tidal oak]

I think they need to go bigger with the o3 portal

8”

[wary matrix]

I'm already not a fan of that on the Switch 2

[tidal oak]

I love the ergo of legion go S

If it were Android and lighter that would be

[umbral heron]

Legion Go S is 8 inches right?

[tidal oak]

Yep

I used to stream all the time on it

[umbral heron]

Yeah, if it doesn't result in the O3Portal being too much bigger to have an 8 inch, I'd happily take it.
I don't think an Odin 3 Mini would even be fully necessary because I'm expecting the Odin 3 to be smaller than the og Odin 2 as well with no borders

[wary matrix]

I mean, obviously bigger works to some extend and even the Switch 2 is usable, but it's way less of a handheld due to size... more like lugging around a tablet

[umbral heron]

Assuming it uses the same 6 inch screen from the Thor

[wary matrix]

it's wider than the Odin 2 Mini, but should be the same high basically

[tidal oak]

O3 mini would purely be to recapture the ps vita form factor only

[wary matrix]

that's why I said I want a flat backplate to make it more pocketable

[umbral heron]

If they can make it a lot lighter than PC Handhelds, it could more easily be a backpack carry

[wary matrix]

okay yeah if they heavily go into that with d-pad on top and glass front, I'm sold

[quaint dust]

I’ll be honest , Ive bought both Odin models but it’s coming down to the O3 and Konkr Fit for me personally.
Will get the best bang for your buck between the two depending on what powers the O3

[wary matrix]

ideally same buttons as on the Odin 2 Mini so I can drop in the same Sakura buttons

[wary matrix]

Pretty sure AYN should win out on that, shipping alone will make AYA $20 more expensive

let alone their accessory prices

[umbral heron]

I kind of poke fun at Ayaneo calling it "budget", but it's probably just a bad choice of word moreso than it not being a good deal.
Very surprised at how well priced the Konkr will be.
I don't think it's for me bc OLED is too nice to not have, but people who dislike OLED and want IPS instead now have a really good option

[wary matrix]

I will be fine with my Pocket S2 1440p option, thank you

[umbral heron]

I really hope we get 1440p on handhelds soon.
I think that's legit what the Odin 3 Portal could potentially do is have 1440p OLED

[tidal oak]

Noled is a nope from me

[wary matrix]

you may say that, but I'm glad my Pocket ACE ain't OLED

[tidal oak]

Ironic from a switch 2 main but I play that on my tv

[wary matrix]

always worried to apply a grid on OLED displays

[umbral heron]

Not buying a Switch 2 until there's more games, but also if there's a Switch 2 OLED later down the road, which I would think Nintendo will wanna do at some point

DK Bananza looks amazing, but I'm not buying a handheld close to 500 bucks just for one game x3

[quaint dust]

We’ll see who it plays out once we get full specs , I really like the Fit design wise over the O3 by a small margin

[wary matrix]

it certainly is sleek and the trigger locks are a feature I miss on the Odin 3

[quaint dust]

That’s fair but AyaNeo usually uses some great IPS/LCD screens

[clever halo]

The Odin 3 looks smaller than the OG 2 and it being offset just enough makes it a possible buy from me. OLED 120hz is a nice bonus too

[quaint dust]

This isa great point too the slightly offset sticks look great for ergos

[leaden hollow]

Heavy emphasis on the custom backplate

[umbral heron]

Odin 3 has potential to be my first AYN device.
Not rn as even the base model will be a bit too expensive for me, but definitely later down the road when my family and I are more stable.
I was thinking the Thor would be my first device. It still might be, but I already am going to wait at least 6 months to a year to see how the hinge holds up

Odin 3 could hold me over nicely.
Damn, I'm starting to wonder now if I'm starting to be influenced by the culture of this hobby that is buying a lot of handhelds x3

[tidal oak]

Off topic but ability to play switch 1 upgraded games sealed the deal for me

[umbral heron]

That is definitely a really great feature of the Switch 2 is upgraded Switch 1.
Makes me really excited for when there's eventually a Switch 2 OLED

[clever halo]

Same, plus while not my favorite mario kart, World has kept my attention alongside the TotK upgrade

[tidal oak]

Although I’ve been playing ff6 pixel remaster on my switch lite oled in bed lately haha

[clever halo]

also fuck man MK World has the best soundtrack Nintendo has every put out hands down

[clever halo]

Yep! I had both the Mini and the Original 2, alway found the OG more comfortable and just big enough to bring it with me wherever i went with no issue

So the Odin 3 being smaller with the same size screen and stronger specs makes me excited

[umbral heron]

Odin 3 will be a great backpack handheld for certain.
Might even be somewhat pocketable if it's around the size of an RP5, but I find that anything other than a clamshell I don't enjoy pocketing (could do it with carrying cases/pouches, but it's not as convenient)

I was initially not really interested in wanting an Odin 3, but talking about it in both here and the AYN server has me more interested and hype for it.
Kind of wanting to have the Thor be my EDC, and keep the Odin 3 at home for more comfortable controls when I'm not out and about

[tidal oak]

Right now my edc is flip2, and portal at home. Thor makes the most sense for me, Odin 3 won’t replace the portal

Thor could possibly even replace the portal as well

[clever halo]

My EDC is my Odin 2 Mini, so the Odin 3 would replace it

[wary matrix]

ergos on the Portal are quite a bit better just looking at the THOR, kinda wish they did d-pad on top for that one, I have an easier time using sticks that aren't placed ideally

[kindred crypt]

disagree that the portal is perfect as is

screen and power, sure

controls and ergos? plenty to improve

I personally find the Steam Deck miles and bounds better both in controls and ergos for streaming

so much so that I honestly question why people like the Portal so much

[fast sable]

Personally I like the ergos of the portal as they are and the controls. The face buttons could be quieter but that would be my only criticism. Other than that, the device is perfect for me.

[kindred crypt]

so clacky, thunky and loud, of all the handhelds I've used the Portal has some of the worst face buttons

but I get all of this is very subjective

[worldly lantern]

8" (or beg Lenovo for their 8.8") OLED + improved ergo = guaranteed preorder.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Wasn't a huge fan of the face buttons. That said I liked how it was about 200g lighter

Probably sacrificed some ergos and battery to get there but it felt lightweight in hand comparing it to any x86 handheld

[kindred crypt]

it's weird, I spent some time going back and forth between the steam deck and the portal I was surprised to find I liked the deck better despite being heavier

and I'm usually pretty pedantic about handheld weight

[tidal oak]

I couldn’t love the oled deck screen

I need my 1080p120

For streaming

Deck controls definitely better. Portal sticks are a solid 7 with the grippy tops.

Portal buttons oof. But can be modded to be quieter

[worldly lantern]

The text clarify just wasn't there for me despite enjoying the inky blacks.

[torn saffron]

Im surprised we havent gotten more info about this yet. Its very unlike them. Tho they also dont usually release multiple devices at once.

[tame saddle]

I swear they're playing chicken

[leaden hollow]

Yeah I mean we kind of knew that at this point

[worldly lantern]

Now to begin my hype for an Odin 3 Portal...

[jagged grail]

I'm looking for a mini instead

[errant sable]

Ngl the design kinda killed my hype a bit lol the Thor is looking at little more interesting to me now I just wish tje battery was a bit bigger

[merry sail]

Happy with the 2 Portal so gonna sit this one out.

[hoary arrow]

I'm interested to see what else it has!

[obtuse rampart]

I’m with you
A portal would be my next pickup after Thor

[tame saddle]

I just need more info. Like price and what's in it

I liked portal but that shit was big and ergos at least for me were just, ok

You still see a lot of people rocking the og Odin 2 just because of the size and ergos

[main dock]

didnt realize the mini and rp5 were almost the same size

[subtle zenith]

yeah i find Thor + Portal best combo

Portal as inhome straming monster ... and thor will be much more portable

[fast sable]

That'll be my combo. I cant wait for the Thor

[subtle zenith]

its kinda funny

as before thor was a thing ... bezelesss oled, same size and more comfy dpad was all i ever wanted from "Odin 2 upgrade"

but with Thor being a thing our needs changed + we got cheap portal offer from a friend so the upgrade path is Thor+Portal

[urban grail]

ssame, it's just gonna take a hell of a lot to tempt me to upgrade from my portal

[errant sable]

Yea even if its more powerful the the Thor just seems more interesting to me at least

[umbral heron]

Gonna depend on price for me as I don’t have an Odin 2 of any kind

[urban grail]

it has to be some kind of chip upgrade, but guess we'll find out when specs and pricing get revealed

[errant sable]

Yea i just dont see much worth since I already have a o2 but we will see what the specs are and I might change my mind

[umbral heron]

I personally wouldn’t upgrade if I already had an O2

[ripe stirrup]

I have o2 and am looking to get this or the konkr, depending on the price/specs for each.
Its almost 2 years already, so timing is just about right.

[umbral heron]

Elite?!

[novel panther]

Snapdragon 8 Elite is crazy

[subtle zenith]

Elite lol

[jagged grail]

finally, i can play gba on even faster fast forward

[novel panther]

Should mean it's way more expensive than we're used to from AYN... If they price this at their usual $350ish, that's crazy

[umbral heron]

So much for a chip with driver support x3
That’s genuinely curious they went with Elite over G3 Gen 3 or similar

[ripe stirrup]

Same pattern as the o2 which has the 8g2 when 8g3 was pending to be officially launched in a few months.

[jagged grail]

if an elite 8 was an option, i was expecting 2 SOCs like the thor but doesnt seem like it

[umbral heron]

I trust AYN knows what they’re doing, but Idk how soon we can expect this chip to be worthwhile given some devs like the Turnip devs said they won’t work on Elite for a long while

[fast sable]

Yep. That announcement cemented for me that I want the Thor

[rich gale]

good that i put money down on thor last week

[subtle zenith]

Yep reconfirms that out choice of portal Pro + Thor Base is better for our usecase

[umbral heron]

My guess on why they went Elite is bc the Elite 2 is coming out soon, so probably had a good deal.
But something needs to be done for the driver support before I would even consider getting this.

[rich gale]

i would laugh my ass off if konkr elite doesn't have an elite processor now

[fast sable]

There are going to be so many people asking why this game and that game dont work for switch when they get it

[spare willow]

Give it another 6-9 months and the 8 Elite 2 might start being more readily available and for cheaper. This seems like nothing unless people want the RP5 with a 'stronger' chipset

[umbral heron]

#1407305533462941716 message

[umbral heron]

I’d be a bit more optimistic if Turnip devs haven’t already said they weren’t adding support for Elite.
But I have no clue if that were never doing it or just not for a while

[umbral heron]

Heard conflicting things from people in AYN server on whether support was gonna not be added at all or just for a while.
Seems silly to not add support for it at all

I will admit this since I feel it strongly, but I’ve seen so much emphasis put on driver support in this community that I think it’s overblown af.
Support will come. It will take time, but it will come.
Exhibit A on why we don’t need to buy everything on release 🗿

But yeah, probably not getting this anytime soon either for different reasons than the Thor

[fast sable]

Its really not overblown. Try running most switch games on default drivers and you'll see why turnip drivers have been so important up to now

[dapper warren]

All other aspects being equal, you always want the newest/lowest lithography

[spare willow]

The Elite is a pretty big shift away from the 8 gen X series architecturally. It's probably just not feasible to add support as easily

[umbral heron]

Of course it’s important. That’s why I won’t get it for a while.
My point is moreso that driver support can and should eventually come.
But it’s also true the Elite is very different architecturally, so… yeah, very uncertain territory we’re in rn

It’s mostly in Qualcomm’s hands now

Very worried that this is going to be more expensive than even the Odin 2 Portal as well. Really likely

[spare willow]

Unless some big customer like Meta, Valve or Asus demand it I doubt Qualcomm will do much. I remember it took ages for the raspberry pi team to get supported blobs for certain features

[ripe stirrup]

As I mentioned in other threads, I still think it's more on the developers of emulators to "do the work".

Loadable turnip/drivers only started with skyline, emulation has been fine even before it.

[fast sable]

I agree and I hope the Elite does get decent support. If it does then my interest will be reignited but as of now the compatibility isnt even close to what we already have.

[jagged grail]

when people are worried about "support" thats mainly for higher end systems/emulation right
lower end stuff is pretty much no issue

[fast sable]

Yeah. Below switch is fine. Its really switch, winlator or anything that relies on turnip drivers

[ripe stirrup]

Having to swap/test different versions of Qualcomm and turnip drivers for different games just isn't a great experience even on the Odin 2, and hopefully won't be a necessity in future .
X86/x64 still the best place for higher end emulation for now.

[spare willow]

3DS may have some minor graphical bugs without Turnip but the Elite will just plough through it

[umbral heron]

I’d like to see battery life comparisons for PS2/GCN/Wii and below in the meantime then.
Should need less TP to achieve similar performance to 8Gen2, does it not?

[jagged grail]

gotcha, cant wait to play even more gba fps on this thing

[umbral heron]

This being a sort of smaller Odin 2 Portal is part of the reason I’m considering it

[jagged grail]

its even smaller than the original odin 2

[umbral heron]

Smaller and inset controls as well

[spare willow]

Has it been confirmed to be the same screen as the top screen on the thor?

[umbral heron]

Yes

Same screen specs

[jagged grail]

now all i wish is less fingerprint or smudgy plastic

[umbral heron]

That makes it appealing as an alternative to O2P if one thinks that’d be too big

[spare willow]

More reason to be watching the Thor previews/reviews when they come out

[umbral heron]

^^^

I thought about getting the O2P instead as a Thor companion, but this having Elite instead kind of makes it more appealing to me long-term as a combo with the Thor?
I just like smaller devices in general.

[robust chasm]

I'm happy with this, but it's probably gonna be $500 at least

[umbral heron]

There’s a chance it could be under $400 with the Elite 2 coming out soon.
Konkr Elite is expected to be $399 if I recall right

[robust chasm]

maybe 399 base 499 pro

[jagged grail]

super duper early bird for the first minute 399$

[clever halo]

Well fuck ok

[clever halo]

WELL FUCK OK

[robust chasm]

499 leaves space for a retroid 6

[wary matrix]

totally over the line, $349 base, $399 pro, $479 max is the worst I expect, $30 less would be nice tho

[clever halo]

Honestly this seems more realistic imho, especially with the Elite 2 going to be announced this month

[ripe stirrup]

we will see, nobody expected 299 for the 8g2 in 2023 as well

and with ayaneo "<399", i doubt AYN will go over it even with the OLED

[wary matrix]

KONKR Pocket Fit Elite is supposed to be <$399 so AYN will undercut them

[jagged grail]

398 it is

[umbral heron]

Reminder that the Thor ended up being a much lower price than people expected as well for dual screen

[subtle zenith]

tbh even if they do 399

the oled will be big difference

[umbral heron]

^

[umbral heron]

I think $349 for base Elite is doable but I will be realistic and say it will likely be around the price of the Konkr Elite

[clever halo]

All we know for Konkr Elite is <399

Which isn't alot to go off of still

[wary matrix]

my wish would be $319 base, $369 pro, $449 max

that would kill the KONKR-line and be a really good price (EB of course)

[clever halo]

So basically the same size if we include the ergo bumps

Which hey, im all for it

[jagged grail]

please have good plastic shell quality is all im asking

i can get away with glass front and slap a matte film on it but smudgy plastic is annoying with sweaty fingers

[umbral heron]

Seeing people asking for a Lite model with 8gen2 or G3 Gen 3 now because of the joke Nicole made earlier about O3 with 8gen2 x3

Ngl, that’s lowkey a great idea

[rich gale]

i call $319 base specs just to piss off ayaneo

[umbral heron]

If one is getting this despite Elite, it’s bc they already know they’re keeping this for a long time/planning to do a lot of Winlator

[rich gale]

yes, but does it make sense to preorder it when you know that support isn't there yet?

[umbral heron]

I don’t personally think it does myself

I’m gonna wait a bit

[rich gale]

for someone that doesn't have any high end device it may be enticing, for the others it might be worth to either play what you have or buy something that is proven

[umbral heron]

I don’t have an AYN device yet, so I’m keeping my eye on the Odin 3.
But I think this and Thor will be my long-term handhelds

[rich gale]

i know a lot of people will throw money at O3 because newer chipset, but even for O2 switch emulation and winlator had a long way to mature until it got decent

and it's a stretch to call winlator decent since you have a million forks with a million parameters each to play with until you make a game playable

[umbral heron]

Yep.
I do think more work on driver support will be done with more handhelds getting Elite, but it will be a good while with how different the architecture on it is.
It’ll be cool seeing where it goes in a year from now

[clever halo]

It still has a long way to go, even with things like turnip drivers. We're kinda at a crossroad atm where people want power, but the power isn't really needed since everything is developing at either a snails pace, abandoned, or is still in early beta

[errant sable]

oof elite chip

[umbral heron]

Elite would be able to play at lower TP in theory, right?
Problem is I saw it mentioned that it’s a really power hungry chip, so Idk how that works exactly for PS2 and lower

[errant sable]

full size sticks is a plus for me

just not interested in that chip

[ripe stirrup]

there were some people complaining about heat/power which I not sure where they coming from, the 8 elite outpeform the 8g2 at all tdp range. So if you are running the same stuff at the same setting, it should consume less. The upper/max tdp allowed might be higher though.

[umbral heron]

Seeing the Elite starting to get used in handhelds makes me excited for SteamOS/Bazzite ARM potentially becoming actual things in the next several years, but by then we’ll be at the Odin 4 or later, plus PC games needing to be made for ARM/having Proton support on ARM.

SteamOS already has some ARM code in it that was found (likely for VR), so will see in the very long term

[dapper warren]

That was Broadcom though

[spare willow]

Yes it was, got the names mixed up. My bad

[autumn swan]

och, now i dont know what to do… i have now Ayn Odin 2 portal and i want have and more portable/smaller thing, i quite confused which is better for that: Ayn Thor or Ayn Odin 3? I mostly playing Switch emulation, Winlator games, Android games and sometimes emulations of smaller consoles.

[clever halo]

Thor

[worldly sail]

Oh my god, so many people are gonna be getting the regular Konkr Pocket Fit now just because of it being the G3 Gen 3 (which are effectively drop-in with their comparable GPU’s for the most part).

[main lodge]

Yknow

I think I'm just gonna get an O2 Mini after this drops tbh

A price drop is probably inevitable when the O3 launches right?

[jagged grail]

or wait for the odin 3 mini

[main lodge]

Eh, I've been thinking it through and I don't really feel I need the horsepower of the 3

The only real thing I would do that would make use of it would be Switch Emu

[jagged grail]

i have an o2 pro and i use it for gba, its fine

[main lodge]

But the O2 can run Switch games in Handheld mode which is fine for me if I really want to play em, or I could more easily just get a Switch 1 and a Mig

[cyan ledge]

Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about the odin 3 having snapdragon 8 elite. I guess it should be great for future proofing but right now I'm not sure with all the driver issues

I feel like 8 gen 3 would have been a better fit

[undone quest]

I'll wait for the Odin 5 and buy a used Odin 3. The 8 Elite should start being optimised for Switch emu by then

[dark sundial]

Odin 3 Lite with 8gen2 / G3 gen 3 sounds a great idea

[cyan ledge]

as funny as it sounds actually not so stupid

but I haven't found any ayn products on the used market myself

[undone quest]

TBH it's probably because there isn't much motivation to sell. I've got an O2Pro and it's good enough to do everything I want. And it just keeps getting better with every new optimisation.

[quaint dust]

Well I guess we know why AyaNeo announced a Konkr Elite model

[undone quest]

The only reason I'd "upgrade" is for OLED. But whatever device I "upgrade" to needs to perform as well as the O2 at least, which the O3 won't for a while

[cyan ledge]

yeah the odin 2 is basically perfect, aside from the latency but I think most people don't notice it anyway

[errant sable]

the konkr with the gen 3 sounds better to me for emulation

[clever halo]

Honestly the best idea rn. Just wait for all the Odin 2s, 2 Minis, and Portals to go on sale and grab one of those. Will last you a while

I'll probably get the 3 in the future, but probably next year after some time pases

[errant sable]

they will prob have a new model of the 3 next year so if you don't like how it looks now maybe waiting might be the best

[undone quest]

TBH probably best to wait until 8 Elite gets more optimisation before even considering buying the O3.. If you intend to use it for emulation.

Who know how long that'll take

[clever halo]

Since the Elite uses new architecture for the GPU iirc, that could take a while

[errant sable]

do we know why people don't want to work on the drivers? or is it something else

[urban grail]

[leaden hollow]

Damn I actually want this now

8 elite handheld let's go

[main lodge]

It has the 8 Elite? Was that confirmed 💀

[clever halo]

Yep

[cyan ledge]

yep

[main lodge]

Yikes

[leaden hollow]

Peak

[main lodge]

Rip Switch emu and pricing

[cyan ledge]

would be great if they offered an 8 gen 2 option and called it "odin 3 lite" similar to what they did with the thor

[urban grail]

yeah pricing is gonna be interesting. I find the switch emulation thing a little pedantic esp for android but fair enough 😄

[torn saffron]

little surprising, figured they value emulation a bit more

[quaint dust]

Anyone know how much more powerful the Elite is over the G3 gen 3?
I love the offset full size controls and and OLED

[torn saffron]

might grab this as my android game handheld

[urban grail]

Konkr fit is 8 elite too i think?

[quaint dust]

Was going to just post mostly for high end Android gaming

[errant sable]

konkr has two models

[torn saffron]

for non emulation its a lot more powerful, especially with cooling, more efficient too, albeit with 3-4w more power draw at the high end

[quaint dust]

Sure but the Konkr Elite will definitely be more expensive than the O3 model plus no OLED

[torn saffron]

i say might get this, because while i want one, id rather wait for an evo 2 with the 8 elite, software is a big one for me if its going to be primarily android stuff

[quaint dust]

3-4w more power draw than the SD gen 2 ?

[lament adder]

so: is the elite worse than G3 for Switch an Android game "only", or in general? who will run run winalator better?

[errant sable]

the knonkr starts at like 330

[torn saffron]

they pushed it under 400, the gap cant really be that big\

[rich gale]

people will want power for the power sake, this is as old as humanity.

[leaden hollow]

Nah it's an investment

[torn saffron]

wilator i think is fine, its mostly just switch and maybe vita and ps3

[rich gale]

isn't konkr elite at 399 though?

[torn saffron]

ye'

[errant sable]

no clue they just start at 330

guessing the gen 3 version

[torn saffron]

g3 gen 3 is under 330, elite is under 399

[errant sable]

those some decent prices

[rich gale]

please don't call depreciating assets "investments"🙃

[leaden hollow]

Investment can be more than just monetary value. Support for the 8 elite will likely get better over time

[quaint dust]

Does the G3 gen 3 still need to be spoofed for some Android gaming

[torn saffron]

g3 version is going to be the highest performance and best priced switch emu device

i dont think so]

[rich gale]

given the rukus Ayn created with their annoucement i guess we can call this high emotional investment

[errant sable]

I think that was the g2x or whatever it was that needed spoofing no?

[cyan ledge]

8 elite drivers as so bad that for a lot of switch games the 8 gen 2 outpreforms the stronger chipset

[quaint dust]

Thought the G3 gen 3 might of had the same issue

[errant sable]

oh idk I thought it was just the X version

[urban grail]

while this is true, do we really want to buy a device now just expecting driver support to get better? as that just might not happen

[leaden hollow]

I do

[torn saffron]

the drivers are actually really good, switch emu and others are just made for turnip and some of their workarounds due to how bad they were

[fast sable]

It could do. Theres a question mark over it until its in people's hands

[quaint dust]

I really don’t know that’s why I asked

[rich gale]

i bought odin 2 before switch on android was even a thing and look were we are now. you can't buy a thing now for whatever future might offer, you buy it for the current capabilities and the rest is bonus

[errant sable]

[torn saffron]

the focus on turnip borked the compatibility with stock

[leaden hollow]

I'm also not as interested in switch emulation as much anymore now that the best way to play it handheld is arguably the switch 2

[cyan ledge]

switch 2 has to interpolate most switch games though

720p usually looks worse on 1080p than on 720p natively

[fast sable]

But that means buying a switch 2 😬

[errant sable]

^

[urban grail]

hell a switch lite modded can't be too expensive these day

[cyan ledge]

on an emulator you can upscale 720p to 1080p

[errant sable]

honestly might just get a thor and konkr

865 thor sounds nice

[urban grail]

well i see no reason to upgrade my portal to this so im good 😄

[cyan ledge]

thor seems to be the only pocketable switch emulation handheld at the moment

[rich gale]

this always baffled me with windows nvidia/amd drivers, when they get bloated with little fixes for every freaking game coming out. i don't understand why the game devs don't use the API as it is intended and they rely on hardware makers to fix their fckups

[worldly sail]

The Elite does.

Konkr Pocket Fit uses Snapdragon G3 Gen 3 for <$330.

Konkr Pocket Fit Elite will (more than likely) use Snapdragon 8 Elite for <$400.

Reminder to all that they did use < to say their prices would be lower than the initial $370, which did end up dropping to <$330.

[torn saffron]

the pocket s is definitely pocketable, even with the 2in1 grip case

[worldly sail]

So long story short, they may very well be waiting for Ayn to announce their price so that they can undercut them on whatever equivalent they’re offering.

[urban grail]

these wars are hilarious 😄

[quaint dust]

We win

[torn saffron]

some of it comes down to using newer revisions of the graphics api than the current driver supports

[errant sable]

we win in the end 😏

[quaint dust]

[rich gale]

can they undercut them with a LCD offering though? they need to do it nonetheless

[worldly sail]

Oh you don’t know the half of it.

I’m not joking about that whole >$370, we first were messing around and thought “ok so it’s obviously $369”.

Nope, it dropped to >$356, then to >$330.

[errant sable]

don't sleep on lcd screens

o2 has a pretty good one and a couple other handhelds

for colors

[clever halo]

https://tenor.com/view/benitwt-gif-2908045524936028793

[rich gale]

the thing with aya is that 329 will be for a small number of super early orders

[worldly sail]

They’re already undercutting them with a G3 Gen 3 version that’s almost definitely gonna be priced lower than the 8 Elite, and this might be the only time where people will prefer the cheaper option due to driver compatibility.

[quaint dust]

One thing AyaNeo does is use really good LCD screens

[torn saffron]

both devices will be great, id probably take the konkr tho just because of how much i like ayas home screen customization, it feels so much more like a full console with dynamic backgrounds

[urban grail]

Cole liking an AYA device? i am shocked 😄

[torn saffron]

but as before ill probably just wait for evo 2

[fast sable]

Im usually playing games. Not looking at the home screen 😏

[errant sable]

kira you just need the right wallpaper

[rich gale]

other than some ghosting i'm perfectly fine with my current o2 pro. i preordered thor for something more portable and the novelty of watching 2 movies at the same time 😄

[clever halo]

I'll probably trade my Odin 2 Mini for a Thor and wait for the Odin 3 Mini or a good deal on the Odin 3

Or just keep the Mini as it still a fuckin beast

[errant sable]

yea the 865 thor looks good for ps2 other stuff for me

[rich gale]

abomination, for 50$ more you get a better thor

[errant sable]

but I already have a o2

[rich gale]

what is that in starbucks matcha lattes with 2 pumps of sugar?

[clever halo]

But power tho

[errant sable]

the design matters for to me on the thor

[urban grail]

Kira and Cole always make me laugh because thet're the biggest fans of AYN and AYA respective, it' like a battle of the fellating contest 😄

[errant sable]

its godzilla vs king kong

[rich gale]

$50 is a small price for a large power increase, even with O2 as alternative

[fast sable]

You dont see at the end of the day when we both spoon. He likes to be the little spoon

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-lip-bite-emoji-gif-27518891

[rich gale]

if Thor has a good hinge it might get to replace the O2 as the main one and only device

[torn saffron]

100% would replace the odin 2 with thor

[errant sable]

I would be more worried about the materials used for the shell

[rich gale]

some people have brand affinities, let them be

[torn saffron]

odin 2s ergonomics didnt work for me anyway so why not

too be fair, im buying both

[rich gale]

a lot of people enjoy sleeping baby position handles and master controller

[quaint dust]

This might be a really dumb reason I might be leaning on the Konkr Fit is the ABXY buttons in Xbox layout .
Then again depending on price on the Elite the full size Sticks and OLED might be enough to enough to do O3.
It’s ridiculous we are so spoiled with these choices now

[torn saffron]

i just value software higher than lower price targets

[errant sable]

oh lord the ayaneo trailers

[rich gale]

as long as they don't do anbernics cowboy theme song in their videos

[worldly sail]

You forgot Fish Bone.

Never forget Fish Bone.

[torn saffron]

shocking, buying 2 nearly identical products isnt concerned about price

[clever halo]

It's crazy how spoiled for choice we are now

[rich gale]

that's why i love price wars

[leaden hollow]

Hopefully the cooling in this is good

[rich gale]

next i want to see a 350$ steamdeck 2 with 7" oled and the latest and greatest amd apu and we will see the chinese companies scramble to counter

[torn saffron]

also the sticks should be cross compatible, they are the same base module just with different tops

[worldly sail]

That might very well be the Avengers-level threat that forces them to work together.

[torn saffron]

if this drops at 330 ill get it and resell it later when a bigger option is out

[quaint dust]

Im guessing the Fit uses the same sticks as the Ace , the tops look the same .

[torn saffron]

yeah

pocket s2 aswell

and ds

and the odin/thor family of devices

[worldly sail]

Which means it should be compatible with the sticks for the Odin 2 and Retroid handhelds, and all aftermarket options.

[torn saffron]

if ayn sells the stick top replacements seperately like they do buttons it wouldnt be a bad way to go, but theres also a lot of etsy options for these modules that are compatible with any generic full size stick grip

[rich gale]

i wonder how large are the full sticks of O3. (pictured Loki | 3dprinted with skullco | portal | original O2)

O2 sticks were TINY

[torn saffron]

personally i use some stick grips from a gamesir controller, they fit perfectly and add just enough size and grip without lowering the tension too much

[rich gale]

this was the greatest consumer friendly mishap from their part, having the same size stem for the joystick. so many aftermarket options

basically they put bread on the table for so many etsy shops

[kindred crypt]

I am very conflicted right now lol

[kindred crypt]

I'm skeptical of this claim, renders show the same joystick cap as the Odin 2 Portal which isn't full size

[leaden hollow]

I think the play is to get base 8 gen 2 thor and max odin 3.

[rich gale]

same cap style doesn't mean that the mechanism is the same

[main lodge]

The Thor might be a nice idea tbh, idk how well that chip can do 3DS though

Would be nice to be able to play Oras

And MM/OOT 3d

[leaden hollow]

Should be pretty easy for both chips tbh

Azahar has really lowered the performance requirements

[main lodge]

Can 8 Gen 2 do 4x on 3ds?

[leaden hollow]

Yep

[main lodge]

Oh I'm not familiar with Azahar

[rich gale]

8gen2 is perfectly capable of upscaled 3ds games, if any have issues is emulator related usually

[main lodge]

My brain just goes to Citra

[swift nacelle]

I think even the 865 can do 2-3x

[main lodge]

Wow nice

[rich gale]

what is Citra? /s

[tame saddle]

I'm assuming everyone saw the news

Lol

Bye bye konkr

[kindred crypt]

the 865 can do this as well

[main lodge]

All I need to know now is if the 8g2 can do 5-6x Res on Melon tbh

[leaden hollow]

There are a couple of edge cases where you might have to lower it to 3x but generally the 865 can do 4x

[main lodge]

Seems like it should be able to though

But the results from my 870 at 3x were kinda rough

Pretty choppy

[tame saddle]

Why's everyone talking 865? I don't suppose we know if there's a lower base model? I'd expect at least 8gen2 tho

[clever halo]

3ds

[kindred crypt]

maybe implying that a 8gen2 variant is also coming for those who hate the 8 elite

[main lodge]

Ah so 4x should be more than fine on 8g2?

[tame saddle]

I think that's an awesome combo honestly

[clever halo]

If that's the case, then immediately buying

[tame saddle]

8gen2/8elite

[main lodge]

Actually

[tame saddle]

I like it better than g3gen3 as the lower option

[kindred crypt]

yeah I'd strongly consider going for 8gen2 over 8 elite here if the option is available

[main lodge]

Will the Thor fit/work well in the Ayn Super Dock?

[tame saddle]

I mean I might get the 8 elite. Now it just depends on price

[rich gale]

O3 with 8gen2 is the best possible upgrade for O2 with known hardware

[rich gale]

won't fit closed

[tame saddle]

I mean straight up Linux out the gate. With known performance. 8gen2 was smart

[rich gale]

also, wrong channel

[clever halo]

Especially sincw you'd get better sticks, better screen, and all the good shit of the Odin 2

[rich gale]

exactly, without the unknown 8Elite upgrade

[main lodge]

It was mid convo about the 3 and the Thor, gosh

[tame saddle]

I'm against paying dumb amounts for 8 elite. But paying an awesome price for 8 elite and I'm down

[kindred crypt]

the 8gen2 is overkill for DS/3DS honestly, get the 865 is that's your primary interest

[main lodge]

Nah I definitely want smooth Dolphin performance and the option for some handheld mode Switch too

[tame saddle]

Cause 8 elite default drivers are awesome. And the Linux and driver compat are going to come eventuallt

[clever halo]

It's more a matter of when than if

[rich gale]

i said previously, don't buy it now for future whatifs. it will be cheaper in the future and maybe all the first batch kinks solved already. if you buy, buy it for what it can offer you now

[fast sable]

Exactly this

[tame saddle]

I have more faith it'll show up before any of the g series support will

8 elite is going to be a common mainline chipset. In mobile devices, tablets and handhelds

[rich gale]

who knows, maybe tomorrow a PS4 emulator will be launched on android that works out of the gate and requires an 8elite at minimum

[clever halo]

But if the Odin 3 has a 8 gen 2 variant, that's immediately my priority to get. Cause atm, the 8 gen 2 is the best chip for P2P with linux support

[tame saddle]

An amazing dream. But how bout we get PS3 working well first.

[rich gale]

it is another whatif on the list

we have so many, so much potential

[main lodge]

What do we think the likelihood of getting a new dock from Ayn is to go with the Odin 3? 🤔

There isn't much that needs to be upgraded from the Super Dock really

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Don't get me wrong. If simply an 8 elite upgrade comes with a $150 price bump then it's a hard pass

If they do something crazy and it's like $50 tho

For things that don't basically require turnip to run, the stock drivers will basically slaughter performance

[rich gale]

but look at 2023 chip(8gen2) still having issues with 2017 chip stuff (switch's tegra)

also same architecture

[tame saddle]

Yeah. We know emulation requires way more power than stock hardware. It's generic and unoptimized

[rich gale]

it's a wonder we have ps3 emulation at all, given how the damn ps3 cell architecture is built

[tame saddle]

But yeah. With an 8gen2 I was comfy with probably just grabbing a Thor. A cheap 8 elite tho... Might have to get Odin3 and Thor 😆

[rich gale]

usually emulation is slow because you need to translate cpu and gpu commands from one architecture to another, requiring complex logic to map them if there can be mapped, switch's tegra is ARM and current cpus are also ARM but i guess there is also some sheninagans that they need to emulate

[trim fossil]

A good rule in general for technology

[rich gale]

for older architectures they had to emulate the whole thing, saturn is notorious for its complicated architecture

ps3 cell also is very complicated

also, we need people passionate about reverse engineering this stuff

i can't stand reading low level stuff

[trim fossil]

At least PS4/Xbox one were built on a more standardised pc architecture compared to ps3's custom and complicated one

[lament adder]

why not G3?

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Def don't buy any of this shit for future maybes and future proofing. Easier to just sell your old shit and buy something cheaper down the road

[worldly sail]

Nah, it just cemented me sticking with the Konkr Pocket Fit since I’d rather have the G3 Gen 3.

[tame saddle]

Way less devices using it, slower support and optimization

[trim fossil]

Afaik isn't the G3 just 8gen2 with faster GPU?

[worldly sail]

Better support on the driver end (especially since 8 Gen 3 drivers should work on it), you get how it is.

[tame saddle]

A wild take. At this point hard pass on LCD unless they somehow undercut ayn

[worldly sail]

That’s the G3X Gen 2.

[leaden hollow]

I'm kind of curious how the variants of this are going to be, considering it feels like a middle ground of the odin 2 mini and odin 2 portal

[trim fossil]

Ah this is the 8gen3? Got them mixed up!

[tame saddle]

*Should being the key word here

[rich gale]

ayn never went to the gaming series of snapdragons, only ayaneo jumped on that then put the damn chip in every device they could churn out, even if it made sense or not

[worldly sail]

Is it really that wild when the whole reason people were thinking of avoiding the Konkr Elite was because of the 8 Elite’s compatibility, you literally being one of them?

[tame saddle]

Chips that exist outside of gaming handhelds will ALWAYS have better support

That's just a reality

[errant sable]

[tame saddle]

Unless Qualcomm does something like, restricts their sales to handheld makers

[rich gale]

the reality is that outside phones qualcomm doesn't give a damn about providing better drivers or support

[tame saddle]

I mean I wouldn't want to buy an LCD over OLED if they somehow installed God on it, so yeah. I think it's still valid 😆

[rich gale]

also most of the support comes from the community, from dedicated people passionate about software development

[tame saddle]

I mean I could see them changing their tune with the g series chips

But we haven't seen that yet really

[worldly sail]

And I’m fine with LCD considering the Pocket Ace already took over as my current favorite handheld over my 3 different OLED options.

[worldly sail]

So all that’s left for me to care about is chipsets.

[leaden hollow]

So you're not interested in the God button?

[tame saddle]

Supposedly driver devs are having trouble reaching parity on any of the a8xx chips. So the real question is at that point do you even need driver support?

[rich gale]

almost all the things we get to enjoy today is possible because some random dude decided to fix a stock image of an awful device, or try to compile a linux image for a specific device or cobbled up some software to improve a little gadget. and we still get to complain

none of this hobby would've been were it is now without the true heroes, mostly unpaid that fixed the shit the chinese companies thrown towards us

[tame saddle]

My problem with the 8 elite was always the $150 price tag. Which is dumb. Driver support lacking and LCD on top of that for a probably higher price. Just seems... Silly

[worldly sail]

Funny enough, I’d have to say “would” is more accurate since it really does seem drop-in for the most part, you only need drivers specifically for G3X Gen 2 if you want to take better advantage of the overclock.

[tame saddle]

True. It's still an unknown. I'm hoping it's that easy

Qualcomm does dumb shit sometimes

They really like people to use their stuff stock

[worldly sail]

If it’s the same story with G3 Gen 3, then 8 Gen 3 turnip drivers should work fine for the meanwhile until they get turnip drivers for specifically the G3 Gen 3 working (in which case we’d be able to more safely push it further).

[tame saddle]

Or pay them to make an X version or something

[errant sable]

is this the same chip thats in the series 2s?

the gen 3

because from what I saw it can use gen 3 drivers from what people posted

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Basically. What. The g series reduces normal cores or something?

I forget what makes it different

[errant sable]

drivers for switch and whatever else uses it idk

[tame saddle]

Or wait. I think they drop efficiency and allow higher wattage

(another reason I personally prefer sticking with chips that wind up in phones)

[clever halo]

Either way

[errant sable]

well gl with that unsupported chip I guess

[tame saddle]

The 8 elite should consume less battery running most lower end emulation

[worldly sail]

8 Elite is a different architecture since it essentially is an X Elite that’s been optimized for regular smartphones (instead of being designed for arm-Laptops like the X Elite).

G3 Gen 3 is more closely comparable to an 8 Gen 3.
Edit: looked it up and yeah, it’s pretty much the same story as the G3X Gen 2 but for the 8G3.

[tame saddle]

It's mainly that the 8 elite has a8xx gpu

That's preventing driver support. Pretty sure

[errant sable]

yea the pocket 2s has it and it seems to be doing fine with drivers used from the 8g3

[tame saddle]

830 pretty sure. But again driver devs are struggling to match stock on performance

They will eventually

But maybe not til the next round of midgrade move to a8xx (an inevitability at some point)

[worldly sail]

Honestly, they don’t even need to match performance, they just need to fix compatibility and the games should at least run fine for the most part, considering what they’re working with in terms of the chipset.

[tame saddle]

Or emulators just need to fix compat with a8xx and not care about turnip

It has the power to probably not require much optimization. At least for the same systems dropping turnip in helps

Either way there's a development lag for sure

Turnip is just nice because it guarantees compatibility across any hardware that can implement them. Normalizes performance

[short gust]

bruh

[robust chasm]

is kimchii a turnip developer?

[short gust]

no

[worldly sail]

I think he works with them as like a tester or something? Or maybe he helps organize and send out updates?

[tame saddle]

But yeah. I just assumed we wouldn't see the 8 elite here. I know regardless of sourcing cost, Ayaneo is gonna charge a premium for the 8 elite. Personally it's not worth it to me even tho I do want to experience an 8 elite system to pay that price bump, especially for lagging performance in the near term. Better to wait for a sale or new device down the road once the community figures that out.

BUT, if Ayn somehow offers 8 elite for a reasonable or maybe even recklessly small price bump, I'd gladly jump on it for the efficiency and experience (already got well supported 8gen2 devices in the wings)

I just never even considered an 8 elite before because I just assumed only Ayaneo would be crazy enough, and knew with that crazy would come $$$

[short gust]

nope

Elite without turnip useless

[tame saddle]

Like I probably wouldn't get an 8gen2 Odin 3. Even if it's going to be a solid awesome handheld for 99% of people. But I'll take a cheap 8 elite

[worldly sail]

In all honesty, the main reason why I’d have to say I’m immediately sticking with the regular Konkr Pocket Fit (G3 Gen 3) is because whenever there finally is better support for the 8 Elite, I’d just end up wanting the Odin 3 instead anyways.

[short gust]

G3 G3 is overclocked 8 gen 3, with space to undervolt and get extra % power

[tame saddle]

Fair. That makes a lot of sense

[short gust]

best soc

[tame saddle]

Replies to overreach with overreach. Classic

[leaden hollow]

They're still lying about thickness I see 😅

[worldly sail]

Yup, right now there is a bit too little guarantee for me that the 8 Elite will conveniently get great support right when this releases, but I will at least admit that this definitely killed any and all interest I had in the Konkr’s Elite variant.

[errant sable]

if you want to see how the g3 performs russ has his pocket s2 review

[tame saddle]

People put a lot of weight into turnip. But that's a wild statement to make. Like that stock drivers couldn't possibly outperform them with pure power alone

Like especially for emulation below switch

[cyan ledge]

(grips and triggers not included)

[worldly sail]

Honestly, I’ll definitely say the one thing that would make me immediately more willing to jump for the 8 Elite is it potentially getting Arm-Windows support due to how similar it is to the X Elite.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I mean eventually a8xx will be the baseline. But waiting is def not the wrong choice

[rich gale]

thickness should be an interval

16-30mm

this way you'll know which cargo pants to buy for "pocketability" 😄

[urban grail]

yeah it can do that pretty easy. I can only think of a couple of 3ds games that can struggle

[worldly sail]

Yup, works great on the Pocket Ace (I do usually have it at 3x instead since the screen only supports around that much anyways, but it worked great whenever I used 4x for performance testing).

[short gust]

if pocket fit lcd for 330$, this should be 370-380 ... why they do that

[worldly sail]

To undercut the Pocket Fit Elite’s >$400 with an OLED panel.

[short gust]

they literally put themselves on a premium level

[worldly sail]

This is also admittedly ignoring the potential for Ayn pricing it around the $350-$360 price range.

[short gust]

feel like a lose

[tame saddle]

Lol. Why couldn't it be under $330?

With the 8gen2. It most def will be buddy. But keep living the dream

[short gust]

u crazy

[main lodge]

I hope they put out a new Dock for the Thor

I wanted to get the Ayn Dock with the 3 but 8 Elite has turned me off it ngl

And the glass front

[tame saddle]

How is that even crazy. Portal right now is $330 for base

[short gust]

i dont think many will chose odin instead of ayaneo pocket

[worldly sail]

Given the Thor, I could see them making an Odin 3 Lite with the 8G2 for around $300-$310.

[tame saddle]

Exactly

[short gust]

if gap that smal

[tame saddle]

Dunno what whatever is smoking. But sure

[errant sable]

it wouldn't be a odin 3 tho

[main lodge]

Especially the G3 Gen 3 version that's far better for higher end emu

[errant sable]

thats just another odin 2

[tame saddle]

Huh?

[clever halo]

You're very wrong on that one. Many will go with AYN off brand alone

[short gust]

exactly

[tame saddle]

With OLED, better ergos, different controls, etc. but sure. Basically clones... Smh

[short gust]

maybe ...

[worldly sail]

Oh I’d absolutely be getting the regular Pocket Fit over the Odin 3, I’m just saying I’d also in turn be way more willing to get the Odin 3 than the Pocket Fit Elite once 8 Elite support is better.

[clever halo]

And there's already possibly that a 8 gen 2 variant is also on the table too

[short gust]

I would only choose Elite if the proprietary driver caught up turnip in terms of compatibility

[errant sable]

did they mention a gen 2 model?

[tame saddle]

Like what a dumb take. Then everything running 8gen2 is an Odin 2

[short gust]

otherwise 200% no

[tame saddle]

Life is Odin 2

[errant sable]

thor is difference because its 2 screens

[tame saddle]

And this has OLED. But that's not different because
...
Stuff and things I guess

[errant sable]

portal is oled

so this is a smaller o2p

[short gust]

Okay, so if you think about it... and compare the Ayaneo Elite at $400 vs. the Odin 3, the price difference is enough that people won't think twice about paying extra, at least most of them?

30$?

or not enough save (or someone may think that AYN = Ayaneo)

[tame saddle]

Or is it a larger O2mini? This is so dumb 😆

[errant sable]

sure if it was mini led but ok

[tame saddle]

Oh. So that single difference matters. But others don't

What planet do you live on?

[errant sable]

so your saying because it has a smaller body it couldn't be in the o2 line?

the whole point of the o3 is the newer chipset

[tame saddle]

Yup. Only possible point. We as handheld gamers only care about chipset (except when I need to point to screen size, screen tech, or anything else to win a point 😆)

I'm sorry. That's just silly

We buy different handhelds all the time for reasons other than just chipset.

[errant sable]

clearly you do since you can't let go of thqat elite chip

[tame saddle]

So this can't be serious. But back to reality

[tame saddle]

If it's cheap why would I want to let go of it? I think it'd be pretty cool

Well elite 8, OLED, and probably cheaper than konkr

But yeah. If none of that matters to you konkr is the right choice

[short gust]

The only device from the top that pleased this year (thor Gen2 cool too)
I am already looking for a good OLED screen to replace it, 6'' many

[clever halo]

Not really, but ok. This year has been full of crazy picks, this is just another in the pool of high-end stuff.

[tame saddle]

I just think it's kinda wild to already be making price conclusions when we don't know the price of either. So it's really hard to say. All of my praise is always caveated with price. It either makes or breaks my choice

[short gust]

i mean on top lvl

[clever halo]

My point still stands

[short gust]

And overall, yes, a lot of decent devices came out at the end of the year, and more will come out in different price ranges.

pocket ds cool too, but i hate DS format at all

[tame saddle]

But anyone who doesn't look at Thor and consider the possibility of Ayn undercutting Ayaneo and offering more and not getting excited about that prospect is kinda weird to me I guess

[worldly sail]

Pretty much, considering it’s smaller than the Odin 2 LCD.

[worldly sail]

Or you can be cheeky and call this a “slightly larger and way more powerful RP5”.

[short gust]

wonder how cheap G3x Gen2 can be next year, or 8Gen2

[tame saddle]

Like anyway you cut it. Letting these 2 fight is good for us

[urban grail]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[tame saddle]

Ayaneo just shot themselves in the foot with their marketing

[clever halo]

We all win in the end

Just gotta pick what we want

[tame saddle]

Yup. Good to have choices. And competition

And both look like bangers

LCD still confuses the shit out of me. But apparently people love them still