(AYANEO) KONKR Fit & Pocket Fit

[woven steppe]

I think I need to take some classes or move to a different environment.

[median mica]

Eh. Texting even between two fluent English speakers is fraught with misunderstanding

[woven steppe]

Next time this happens, just clarify whether you understood me correctly.

[gusty rain]

There isn't much to misunderstand with blatant visual evidence and stubbornly refusing it is different from not being fluent

[median mica]

It's a two way street tho. It's possible you're misunderstanding us

[woven steppe]

yeah, can be

But I already understand that there are two toxic childrens (at least mental) here

[haughty tartan]

also, crying victim after being confronted is not a good

[median mica]

Yeah. You can just also be wrong

Humility goes a long way

[woven steppe]

but I don't care about them, their life is clearly no picnic

[woven steppe]

ofc everyone can

[median mica]

Yeah. Think it's more your approach to confrontation. Dig in, make assumptions about their lives, it's not a healthy thing to do

[gusty rain]

It's a personality issue here not language. You're just a poor quality person

[median mica]

I only make fun of wumput cause goddamn it's hard not to

[woven steppe]

maybe

[median mica]

Trust me. Your life will be happier. Even outside of discord

[haughty tartan]

maybe he needs to go outside and touch grass more often

[median mica]

It helps. Like literally touch it. Heh

[woven steppe]

Well, seriously, outside of Discord, things like that don't happen to me.

it says something ...

[shy pecan]

its a cultural thing

[woven steppe]

Damn, you've got me intrigued about this character. Is his message history still on the channel?

[gusty rain]

It says you probably don't have the balls to be needlessly confrontational in person but are free to do so behind a keyboard

[grizzled mason]

We still don’t even know if it’s less cpu or not since the only person saying it refuses to even provide evidence of it being a different cpu in the first place (as opposed to it being literally just the 8 Gen 3 with an overclockable gpu).

[woven steppe]

Joe and Fox seem to share one brain between them

[median mica]

I think he admitted it further up even tho I'm pretty sure he mentioned several times it was a downgrade

[haughty tartan]

when you speak like that, it make me think you have learned nothing this whole conversation....

[woven steppe]

i remember i send some geekbench 6 tests

[grizzled mason]

Did he finally share the Core spreadsheet?

[median mica]

Can't teach young dogs old tricks?

[woven steppe]

and they are actually prove that it a big less powerful hardware but higher tdp save it

[haughty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-white-you-can’t-fix-stupid-stupid-relationships-marriage-gif-7272633679894827283

[median mica]

Less stupidity, probably more immaturity but some people never grow out of it. Which is unfortunate

Let's just say it's good discord didn't exist when I was a teen. Lol

[grizzled mason]

I’ll look for that then, although there is that 8 Gen 3 “Pro” variant that’s different from the regular 8 Gen 3 (mainly that it apparently lets you run the chip at higher tdp than standard) so if they’re not taking that into account and just lumping devices with that variant into the average, the numbers can be less accurate than what they should be.

[haughty tartan]

i talked, i gave a 3rd chance for redemtion. it went in 1 ear and out the other, all while he cried victim when people cronfronted him....just like Sneake

[median mica]

Yeah. I think you gave your best shot. It can be a long process. Usually best to ignore/block and come back later. Ignoring is great but then I find myself expanding them anyway 😆

[haughty tartan]

i blocked and ignored like over a month ago. nothing was learned inthe last 6 weeks lol. multiple videos have come out b4 him to show benchmarks mean nothing when people start tweaking emulator settings.......im done talking. cant wait til he gets either timeout'd or banned like the others

[median mica]

Yeah. Probably inevitable considering this has become almost a daily routine

[woven steppe]

You'll probably get banned. You don't know how to communicate at all. If something isn't the way you said it would be, you immediately become aggressive and insulting

just a provocateur, nothing more

[shy pecan]

🤣

[woven steppe]

But of course I'm wrong to waste my time on you every time, trying to explain something or answer your questions, because as it turns out, you're incapable of analyzing information anyway.

[plush meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-picard-the-line-must-be-drawn-here-this-far-no-further-stubborn-gif-15272835

[woven steppe]

now im sound like toxic lol

[opal tendon]

All of this is just him asking others to improve drivers. This is not a promise from any dev to work on the issue. I agree with the videos from Ryan Retro and others. Only buy the 8E today if it does something the best TODAY. You would likely see pretty awesome used deals or new form factors/devices using the 8E by the time the drivers improve. Just no reason to preemptively buy the 8E

[median mica]

Some Dante's Mirror World up in here

[ruby trellis]

Can you guys just stuff it with your back-and-forth ? You each put forward your argument, you obviously can't agree ; use PMs if you want to keep arguing between yourselves.

[median mica]

Problem is one side keeps dying on the same hill to anyone who engages

[raven ridge]

Can we all just agree the G3 is better for emulation but still do great for Android gaming
Elite is better if your main focus is high end Android gaming and not as good as G3 for emulation but can brute force some games/systems until we get proper drivers

[median mica]

It's not even the right hill

[haughty tartan]

i explained myself to you multiple times in the begining, you ignored everything. screaming "Benchmarks"

how many people have you helped in this server alone? how many people's lives have you improved by being here and present in this community? how many times have dev's shouted out your name for helping out with latest releases with CFWs?

[plush meadow]

More importantly who else bought the Dragon Cheese?

[woven steppe]

This is obvious to everyone.

[median mica]

Should just pin this and make it a required pledge to join server 😆

[grizzled mason]

Oh god, that name is still going?

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-dark-side-palpatine-sith-gif-14304484953492859842

[plush meadow]

Dragon Cheese is forever

[median mica]

Thought it was Bumblebee Dragon Cheese

[plush meadow]

That's the formal name

[woven steppe]

huge sense of self-importance be like

[plush meadow]

BumbleBee Dragon Cheese made by Arthur Yaneo

[median mica]

Ah. Bumblebee Dragon Cheese the Third, sired by Arthur "We Were The First" Yaneo

An ex Qualcomm executive or so I've heard

This legend is getting intense

[woven steppe]

And I didn't ignore it, I really tried to understand every time, maybe I was wrong, I started checking everything again, and as usual, it turned out to be different

[opal tendon]

I agree with this. I was just stating that buying something with hopes of future improvement is not a great idea in this space with how extremely fast these devices are replaced and resold.

[median mica]

I just don't understand how people can provide real world performance metrics and benchmarks printed on a sheet of paper are somehow more conclusive. It's like such an odd take. Like I'm always gonna believe what's supported by the guy showing the actual thing.

Like if someone showed me a live flying pig, that could actually fly, I wouldn't turn around and say, well according to this textbook pigs can't.

[plush meadow]

Unless it's a GCloud. Can't believe we're still getting updates

[raven ridge]

I do think we will get custom Elite drivers at some point as the G series is only in a handful of devices and the Elite is more available

[median mica]

I need to dust my gcloud off

[woven steppe]

Well, that's not quite right. Look at benchmarks such as 3D Mark, which simulate behavior in games, its not just ''numbers''

[median mica]

It was super comfy

[plush meadow]

Don't do it! You'll hold it again and everything else will feel like arse

[woven steppe]

The same applies to Geekbench; the logic behind the scoring is straightforward.

[plush meadow]

bad arse, not good arse

[opal tendon]

Maybe that’s why none of y’all want to sell your GCLouds for less than $200 lol

[gusty rain]

But the scoring all goes down the drain when the results of playing an actual game shows completely different performance. So who cares

[median mica]

Simulate is right there in what you wrote. It's a simulation. Simulations are never representative of exact real world conditions. Ever. That's not what they are

[plush meadow]

I've almost put it up for sale 3 times since I've had it and every time I hold it and turn into Bilbo

[woven steppe]

they not represent 100% ofc, but it the closest

[median mica]

Simulations are based on a very specific set of constraints. They only apply to that one very specific set of constraints. You can't use them to prove anything once those constraints are changed

Like talking actual proof

[woven steppe]

I even remember a recent video where someone compared different processors in X86 emulation, and we can literally see the same numbers from the benchmarks

[grizzled mason]

Well sort of, the G series uses drivers that are essentially just standard Adreno GPU’s modified to be overclocked more safely. So you can drop drivers meant for the more standard versions of those GPU’s to get the same benefits, and the only difference between those drivers and drivers made specifically for the G3X Gen 2/G3 Gen 3 is that they wouldn’t be optimized to fully use overclocking, and of course there would still be a few minute differences depending on the specific emulator.

[woven steppe]

Yes, that's true, but there are no other ways

[median mica]

Because some simulations are more representative then others. But they're never EXACT. There's always deviations

[gusty rain]

There are, the other way is to see the game being played in front of your face.

[plush meadow]

Everyone talking about Odin vs Konkr/chipsets etc and the only reason I actually went with the Konkr is because it looks comfy af and it's in a funky colour..

[ruby trellis]

@woven steppe it's a matter of RIGHT NOW. People who actually have compared Elite and 8g3 devices all have pretty much the same numbers, which means that people who buy the devices now are likely to be able to expect the same kind of numbers.

You may care about the benchmarks but most people who buys these toys want to play on it, they don't give a crap about benchmarks.

[woven steppe]

ofc they cant be EXACT representive, i didnt say that

they CLOSE

[gusty rain]

Your words exactly were and I quote, "it's 25-30% stronger and that's all you need to know"

[woven steppe]

and with every significant leap in performance, the set of instructions in these very benchmarks changes, and the scores are given out in a completely different way.

[gusty rain]

And that's very much NOT all you need to know.

[grizzled mason]

Like as an example, there are a few emulators I remember that actually don’t work well with the G3X Gen 2 when using drivers made specifically for it’s “custom GPU”, but when you instead use more standard drivers made for the stock A7XX GPU’s, then the game works fine, in spite of it still being the G3X Gen 2.

[woven steppe]

and whats wrong?)

25-33*

[gusty rain]

the "that's all you need to know" part

[fiery geyser]

isn't igg campaign under Konkr name and they have only 1 campaign? that is paid advertising for sure

[woven steppe]

This is much easier for the average person to understand than explaining the real difference and where it will be

[calm scroll]

You pay for that coverage fyi

[split silo]

Who's up konking their fit

[plush meadow]

It's a branding thing rather than a new company, everything on the back end is still registered to Ayaneo hence the Trust Team Proven badge

[gusty rain]

Not true, because the average person will buy the product thinking with 25-33% more power they're set for everything, and then it doesn't work that way and they're left thinking wtf, because they didnt get proper information. So back to square one of bad thinking

[grizzled mason]

It’s not like I magically switched the chipset for the 8 Gen 2, I just used a 8Gen2-optimized turnip driver with the G3X Gen 2.

[calm scroll]

What in the name of Arthurs Konkrs is going on in here 👀

[calm scroll]

That badge wasn't there before 👀

[grizzled mason]

Whatever’s still going on pure benchmarks, and the argument has escalated.

[woven steppe]

dont understand what u mean there ''People who actually have compared Elite and 8g3 devices all have pretty much the same numbers''

bc if u talk about benchmarks and real performance case they get solid boost

[calm scroll]

Whatever is always about the numbers and not what actually happens in the real world 🙄

[plush meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-usual-suspects-usual-suspects-verbal-kint-keyser-soze-bryan-singer-gif-21682106

[fiery geyser]

igg doesn't function on air, they gladly accept money to promote stuff

[final coral]

Man this has been going on for days and days over multiple channels

[shy pecan]

i have showed him live/fresh widlife extreme numbers for dmg, and he wont accept. just wants to believe what he wants to believe lmao

[woven steppe]

There are always exceptions and inaccuracies, of course, but I have never seen anything like what you describe. I am waiting for an example.

[calm scroll]

100%. Thats why they sneak in their 'tip' 🤣

[grizzled mason]

Did CaptainMerc not show exactly that?

[fiery geyser]

but it doesn't matter the campaign unfortunately underperforms and doesn't bode well for ayaneo

[calm scroll]

Probably best to just ignore at this point. Its relentless with these benchmarks everyday

[woven steppe]

Because only you achieved such high results, of course I didn't believe it... it would be strange.

[fiery geyser]

especially at those prices

[woven steppe]

u talk about switch video?

[plush meadow]

jfc igg. I've only ever looked at retro doodads on here

[woven steppe]

when even 865 already bounded heavy by emu

[shy pecan]

its not only me, go to ayaneo discord and filter photos that show wildlife test

in dmg

[fiery geyser]

if the prices were a bit higher as was initially intended it would be an even sadder story

[calm scroll]

It does beg the question of whether they'll do these prices again. I suppose it depends how well it has done in China as well

[fiery geyser]

it is a wonder if they will continue with the konkr line

it seems that they've created more confusion than not

[shy pecan]

or the community already knows who they are?

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-fred-jones-unmasking-mask-original-gif-15500596655549659645

[woven steppe]

Oh, so we should have discarded other results like that too. It would have been much more convincing

[fiery geyser]

ayn needs to launch ragnarok line of devices that compete with sub 100$ devices

[plush meadow]

I hope the numbers are good over there, because I'd hate manufacturing to be delayed because of low order/moq

[woven steppe]

You have to understand me, I've seen a lot of dmg tests, and here you're throwing a lot more at a stock device, of course I had to suspect modification.

[final coral]

How do you have multiple arguments at the same time, all the time 🤣

[ruby trellis]

Yeah, I take back what I said about taking the discussion private. Whatever is quite obviously a troll at this point and you guys are right to point it out. 😐

[shy pecan]

ive already blocked lol

[woven steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sru9Z7HEmA&t=599s here way better, if u if you turn a blind eye to artifacts due to the driver

[calm scroll]

Elite arguments for the Elite lover

[woven steppe]

The elite could become much stronger and more interesting in the future; that is its strength.

and can not ... 50/50 coin game (or 60/40)

[coarse coral]

I just don't like banking on potential rather than the current reality

[fiery geyser]

it's always funny when people come to compare antutu result or wildlife points but then they hit the reality of emulators and their quirks

synthetic benchmarks are just that, they don't reflect real performance always

and this happens on pc all the time

[grizzled mason]

Yeah, that’s the reason I’m avoiding the Elite for now.

[fiery geyser]

especially when hardware manufacturers optimize specifically for a benchmark

[plush obsidian]

lets face reality here for a second, the G3 Gen3 is already powerful enough to do what 99% of the people buying such a device want to do anyway

[woven steppe]

they simply show the approximate difference between them, and that is sufficient

[plush obsidian]

I think running recent tripple A games via Winlator is a rather fringe case for this community, even if the recent results are quite exciting

[woven steppe]

gamehub way more noob friendly

[fiery geyser]

what happens when elite is 30% better than g3gen3 in wildlife and in a game is only 10%

[grizzled mason]

Do they avoid taking modified tdp or abnormal scenarios like the “8 Gen 3 Pro” into account for average benchmarks?

[woven steppe]

u can install it, ur game and go

[median mica]

Hence the eventual inevitable timeout. Heh

[woven steppe]

I have never seen such examples, but I would be happy to learn more about them.

[split silo]

It's kind of the only other place to go once switch has been more developed

[woven steppe]

show

[split silo]

Like what else do we need the extra power for

[ruby trellis]

↑↑↑ This

[fiery geyser]

you depend on devs continuing working on emulators. maybe tomorrow brunodev quits a 2nd time, this time for good and coffin colors decides that it's not worth it anymore

[grizzled mason]

The 8 Gen 3 Pro I’m pretty sure is really just the regular chip, but the devs let you overclock it in the stock software (with the only issue of course being its not actually optimized for thermal throttling and will need better cooling than what’s available in the smartphone alone, like an external cooling fan/heatsink that the companies usually sell extra).

[woven steppe]

everything can be

[median mica]

Yeah. It's like betting on black when you know it's gonna be red

[fiery geyser]

the winlator development comes to a screeching halt until maybe someone picks up the leftovers

never bank on whatifs

[woven steppe]

what exact u talking about, missed the point

[split silo]

Nah gamesir always has a financial incentive to develop it, think we're going to be fine

[woven steppe]

and there no 8 gen 3 Pro

only Leading Version / Galaxy

same soc with higher slightly freqs, limits the same

[median mica]

Winlator has such applicability outside gaming there will always be an effort. At least until full blown windows on arm somehow exists

[grizzled mason]

I forget the exact name for it, but I know there are a couple companies that make smartphones with an “enhanced 8 Gen 3” that’s really just them having overclocking in the stock firmware, with the chipset itself just being the standard 8 Gen 3.

I know Taki Udon showed it in his video on Android emulation for Winlator.

[plush obsidian]

sure sure and while it's impressive how the Elite brute forces nearly 30fps in Witcher 3 without proper drivers, the G3 Gen3 still runs a lot of stuff beyond 30fps, like Rise of the Tomb Raider hovers at about 45fps and Final Fantasy VII does 50-60fps... really anything above 30fps is literally playable already IMO and these numbers are getting comparable to x86 hardware

the biggest reason for an 8 Elite handheld would honestly be if Steam releases an Android version tbh, albeit Gamehub clearly makes this a lot easier already

[calm scroll]

I hope this can be a reality one day. It was so cool to mess around with it on my Odin 1

[woven steppe]

They don't do anything, they just order a unique chip from Qualcomm.

at the frequencies they wanted

it mark like AE

[coarse coral]

Not a fan of that analogy because it implies that that potential will never be achieved, but I'm just nitpicking

[woven steppe]

it cost more and can be only by partnership

not common sale

[median mica]

The ball is being spun right now. In the now. With an outcome you want now. Basing it on future potential is just as much of a whatif

[woven steppe]

Samsung has max privilege on it, after 6m-y Nubia get it and other can

[median mica]

Right now, g3 has better compat

[woven steppe]

like Honor did last year

GT

[grizzled mason]

Ok yeah, Leading version was the name for it, but he does directly say the GPU being overclocked is a feature for the phone he’s using for the video.

https://youtu.be/3sfGVIWtkzI

[median mica]

He wasn't saying that it'll be 23-33 in the future. He was saying right now

[woven steppe]

gpu and cpu

but the difference is negligible

[median mica]

If we expand this to all possible futures none of us is right. Lol

[calm scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/blahblahblah-whatever-yeah-haha-gif-798516218559649711

[woven steppe]

it just no-point FLEX

this why asus never buy it

but still dominate in peak performance with defoult chipset

[median mica]

8 elite has potential down the road. But you don't give people 23-33 better performance and say that's all you need to know right "now". That's what I meant by betting on black when the result is red.

[woven steppe]

Nubia 10s pro+ has 17.5w on ELite, and cheapest Elite phone get 17.5w

[median mica]

But it's all gotten tangled at this point. He just regurgitates benchmarks too fast

I'm not 100% sure he isn't a benchmark himself

[woven steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

[median mica]

I guess he can solder tho. And benchmarks don't have arms (from a previous claim that everyone should just buy base models and ball solder on more ram because it's just that easy)

[coarse coral]

That's fair

[woven steppe]

I didn't say to do it yourself, I said to find a workshop, but then I realized that I had overestimated people's abilities

[median mica]

Ah yes. My local soldering workshop. Forgot about that

[woven steppe]

Well, and the main human factor is laziness.

[median mica]

Yeah. We have nothing else to do in our day. Good point

[woven steppe]

phone repair

[median mica]

Holy shit. That guy at the kiosk ain't ball soldering here. Heh

He's barely sober

[woven steppe]

Repair services are literally everywhere. Of course, many will say that they don't do it or that it's impossible, but if you want to, you will find it.

[median mica]

And once you add in the value of my time I'm spending twice as much as the cost of the upgrade

[woven steppe]

I feel the same way, but I just like it.

[median mica]

Sourcing ram. Paying for the service. Researching places that do it. Traveling to and from the place or paying for postage. Etc.

[median mica]

Which is fine. But then just say that to start rather than taking it as a given, or calling people lazy for not doing it. Etc. which just kinda circles back to your approach towards conversation

[woven steppe]

I was just joking -_-

[grizzled mason]

Laziness my ass. You were acting as if SMD soldering was easy to do, and that’s ignoring the fact that the specific version of SMD soldering you were talking about was Ball Grid Array soldering.

[woven steppe]

No, I meant that it's easy for those who know how to do it

A person without experience will not be able to do this.

[grizzled mason]

That’s outright irresponsible as hell, no one should even be recommending regular soldering without getting at least a couple solder practicing kits beforehand to make sure they don’t fuck up their hundred dollar device.

[woven steppe]

I didn't really encourage them to do it, at least not deliberately.

I clearly remember talking about workshops where people know how to do this and it's a simple task for them.

[median mica]

23-33% is all you need to know. Heh

[grizzled mason]

What do you call this?

[woven steppe]

25-33

[woven steppe]

okay, what's wrong here?

[grizzled mason]

The only reason I can’t say this wasn’t outright insane to just say is because of that second part.

[woven steppe]

If you have basic soldering experience and the necessary equipment, you will be able to do it.

[median mica]

I wonder what solder fumes do to a brain

[grizzled mason]

What do you think basic soldering experience even is?

[median mica]

I swear he works in a Chinese factory line

[grizzled mason]

Not much if you make sure to do it by an open window or at least have a solder fume extractor that’s directed towards a window.

[woven steppe]

well, just solder something to something

without overheating

its not basic?

[median mica]

I was more curious as to what societal/conversational impacts it may have on particular individuals

[grizzled mason]

As long as it’s not literally just free flowing into whatever air you’re breathing.

[woven steppe]

I even remember what I practiced on, on phones

[gusty rain]

you're seeing it action right here baby, front row seats

[median mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cousin-eddie-bingo-gif-12266523199863798063

[woven steppe]

Yeah, on anbernic factory

[median mica]

I'd say for the average person soldering on a usb-c port would be considered an advanced application of soldering

[woven steppe]

Okay, I understand... basically, my boundaries are too blurred.

[grizzled mason]

I’d call SMD soldering already more than just basic, depending on the size of the components (if they’re small enough to require a microscope to more easily see, a 0201 resistor would be the best example since it’s literally 0.6mm x 0.3mm in size). And the moment you require using a hot air station or hot plate (like what a ball grid array absolutely would need), you’re already in more advanced territories.

[median mica]

Soldering 2 wires. Probably most basic. Intermediate would be through hole

[woven steppe]

yes, this is no longer the basic level

some skills and equipment required

[median mica]

And thats assuming you have an iron, decent solder, a flux pen and some kind of ventilation. Most would just open a window, but I'd always recommend at least a fan preferably with some filter medium

Wear gloves, wash hands

[woven steppe]

Well, you should have that by default if want to do something

[median mica]

99% of America has none of those things. Heh

Maybe more like 95%

[undone lance]

brb, just adding 1tb to my iphone

[woven steppe]

really?

[median mica]

Yeah. We just buy and replace stuff. Or pay others to fix stuff. Or we fix stuff ourselves but rarely do we get to circuitry

[woven steppe]

In the former Soviet Union countries, 30% or more of the population owned a soldering iron, but now it's less. (based on my feelings, and where I grew up)

[median mica]

We learn more

[grizzled mason]

As a warning in advance, yes. Most of the time those of us in the Gameboy modding community have had to warn people thousands of times over not to just grab “their uncle’s heat stick” (nickname for those really shitty soldering irons that don’t have any controllable temperature, it just turns on and jumps straight to whatever is the max for it), because those things would absolutely burn the solder pad for the Gameboy, meaning that person would have to find and scratch out the trace for a workaround.

[woven steppe]

damn ...

How long have you been in the hw modding community?
and what conclusions did you draw about people, because sometimes I get really pissed off at how helpless people can be

[grizzled mason]

I was mostly in the community for around 4 years-ish before I took a break to just stick with messing with software emulation, but I still go back every now and then.

[woven steppe]

a substantial period of time

[grizzled mason]

And I wouldn’t really say there’s much to conclude, it’s just people who don’t know what their doing, and most of the time this kind of stuff would happen:

[woven steppe]

ahahaha

[grizzled mason]

You can tell how often it happens from the fact that this is a freaking sticker.

Also this.

[final coral]

I’d never touched a soldering iron and did the gb bivert and backlight, pretty straight forward and fun

[grizzled mason]

Those numbers aren’t accurate anymore by the way. It’s around $5 for a good soldering practice kit, and $100 on average for a used Gameboy color/advance/sp.

[woven steppe]

Should I push this overclock past its limits????
...No.
...Well, I tried it anyway ...

[grizzled mason]

People still think it’s a good idea to effectively use these as practice kits, instead of just fucking around with at least an old remote they don’t have the device for anymore.

[woven steppe]

and after:
Hi, something wrong with my device, can u help me plsssssssss

[woven steppe]

well, as a hobby could be (expensive ... bc every fail will cost console)

[ruby trellis]

@woven steppe You really are skillfully obnoxious.

[woven steppe]

what does it mean?

[ruby trellis]

Look it up.

[woven steppe]

oh disgusting

sometimes

It really annoys me that they still haven't announced the price and soc of the Air Mini ...

[plush meadow]

I fried my PSP mobo putting in a new screen because I hadn't practiced soldering in like 20 years

[grizzled mason]

Oh it’s definitely not exclusive to newcomers. Using a practice kit is arguably the best thing to do before any major soldering project just to actually get the practice in before you start poking around in something you don’t want to risk breaking.

[woven steppe]

u use shit like that?

[plush meadow]

not too dissimilar

[woven steppe]

oh

u hasnt a chance so, its okey

Like him, they are killers of modern electronics

[plush meadow]

The one I used has a much finer point to it, but still lol. Way out of practice, not something a tired 37 y/o should be doing on a whim

[shy pecan]

so many blocked messages

[ruby trellis]

A tsunami of garbage, you're not missing much.

[calm scroll]

Tsunami of garbage 🤣🤣🤣

[shy pecan]

my life got better from a simple button

you can do it too

[mossy karma]

ok now back to topic please, thx

[marsh parcel]

My life will be a lot better if the konkr has simple buttons

Not loud clacking ones

[gusty rain]

Same. That's one of the biggest reasons I'm shying away from the odin3 until shown otherwise

[shy pecan]

odin 2 had loud buttons?

and button press latency?

[median mica]

Feel like Ayaneo is pretty good with buttons

[median mica]

Nah. People are worried that they'll be like the portal buttons which were clacky. They said these aren't as loud

[median mica]

Think this was a product of the Odin 2 display. Which is ancient at this point and hence irrelevant

[shy pecan]

ive had no issues with ayaneo's buttons or dpad

if im nitpicking, i was the dmg's buttons and dpad were raised just a little bit

or just werent as recessed when pressed

ie. pressing diagonal on the dpad, youre pressing on the case

[median mica]

Yeah. I noticed that too

[white mortar]

https://youtu.be/TLSJip4Jhto?si=dmPHwc_YdmHjb8lr

[crimson quarry]

https://youtu.be/bnLfOCYj-DE?si=clPYM6qTLgF3sGfU

[gusty rain]

Hm buttons aren't that soft after all.

[final coral]

Screen looks good, atleast from seeing it on a YouTube video

[quiet raptor]

Looks good in my opinion. Really tempted to get the g3 one 👀

[crimson quarry]

Yea the screen looks great

Now we wait for someone to talk about it in English

[ruby trellis]

The auto-subs are surprisingly good.

[white mortar]

They do sound RP5-clackity to me ... :/

[white mortar]

You're watching on a PC? On my phone I can't get any translated subtitles

[ruby trellis]

Yep.

This is a seriously thorough and concise reviewer. 👍

[crimson quarry]

glad they include the big caps

that thing stays cool from what he showed

[coarse coral]

How do you mean?

[gusty rain]

Go to the 3:48 timestamp in the vid, rather hollow sounding on press.

I'll reiterate from last time I complained about this when the Portal released, it's not objectively a "bad" thing and some people like the clack feedback. I just personally want buttons to be as silent as possible.

[queen pilot]

What "specials" for konkr has been announced?
Freebies or something?

[final coral]

The seb base is calling after that

[coarse coral]

Face buttons are certainly clacky

Did he use the D-pad at all in that vid?

[gusty rain]

like 10 seconds right after hitting the buttons lol

keep watching

[ruby trellis]

I didn't know about Mr Stephen's Retro Corner, thank you for the discovery. 😄

[white mortar]

not a fan of this... 😛

[ruby trellis]

Yeah, garish vulgar doesn't really describe it… 😄

I like the mauve color, and the blue triggers are… okay. It's just the random graffiti that seem out of place.

And the black back buttons seem out of place.

[white mortar]

yeah, I don't remember, do the renders also display it like that? same blue as triggers would make more sense

and I guess they are going for Splatoon-like aesthetics... although, B.Duck has its own visual language

[ruby trellis]

The yellow one has black buttons to go with the triggers and front. The white one is solid white everywhere apparently.

[ruby trellis]

You're correct, on the renders the button colors are harmonious.

I think the Dragon Yellow and the White look the best. The black one has these orange face buttons that break the they symmetry.

[white mortar]

I don't like a uniformed color-way so a little flair like different colored buttons is something I prefer, but I went with the Dragon Yellow

[ruby trellis]

That's the way I lean as well.

[white mortar]

I would maybe just like the stick caps to also be yellow or have some yellow accents...

[ruby trellis]

Which perk did you pick ?

[white mortar]

Pocket FIT-12G+256G

[ruby trellis]

3g3 or Elite ?

[white mortar]

3g3

I don't wanna wait for anything 😛

[ruby trellis]

I get that.

[woven steppe]

right choice then

[ruby trellis]

I'd have picked either 12/256 or 16/1T.

It's really weird that the 1TB is only 10€ more than the 512GB. 🤨

[woven steppe]

think the situation with drivers will change with the release of G4 (elite base) since this series is specifically for handhelds

[white mortar]

I was on a budget so I think I'll be pretty happy with it and what I want to emulate

[ruby trellis]

Sorry, I meant that purely in terms of value/$$, the two that seem to make the most sense are the 12/256 or the 16/1T.

But if I were to buy one for myself, I'd get the same one you did.

[white mortar]

nah, I did not mean to defend or explain myself, just to share what felt right for me 😛

[ruby trellis]

No worries. 🍻

[grizzled mason]

Do they sound similar to the Pocket Ace?

[white mortar]

I haven't heard or held one to comment on that, sry

[grizzled mason]

If so, then yeah they won’t be “as clacky” sounding as the RP5 and Odin 2 Portal, but they’ll still be more clacky than people might be particularly ok with.

[crimson quarry]

device looks good

excited

[ruby trellis]

Have a listen to the video shared earlier. The reviewer records the button noise.

[gusty rain]

3:48 timestamp as mentioned above.

[white mortar]

but this isn't the Pocket Ace... I don't know how the Pocket Ace's buttons sound 😛

[gusty rain]

they responded to RNS...who presumably seems to be familiar with the Ace buttons.

[crimson quarry]

he has one

[white mortar]

oh okay, I understood RNS's question as if I should know how the Pocket Ace sounds

[median mica]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-the-office-yikes-this-is-the-worst-cringe-gif-21219465

[grizzled mason]

Thank you, I was just about to ask.

[white mortar]

there will surely be some quieter ones on Etsy... 😛

[grizzled mason]

Oh yeah, that sounds exactly like the Pocket Ace buttons.

[grizzled mason]

Should note that they usually don’t sound as loud if you press them more lightly, where I mostly hear it when I’m mashing a button. But it will still be something to think about.

[gusty rain]

Button swaps never change the sound of em, it's always a membrane issue. And I'm tired of xacto knife slicing my 300 dollar device membranes to make them sound okay lol

[grizzled mason]

Yup, and the annoying bit is that unless they prove otherwise, I’d be expecting the Odin 3 to sound even louder if they’re using a design even remotely similar to the Odin 2 Portal’s buttons.

Man, why can’t they just go back to using what the Mini had? They got it right with that one, what was the point of fixing what wasn’t broken?

[gusty rain]

I have no idea. Makes zero sense to ball out on the whole device's body and then cheap out on one single component

[white mortar]

I felt like when I put Sakura buttons inside my RP5 they were quiter, maybe because they were more rounded opposed to the stock ones

because the membrane was the same

[gusty rain]

I purchased both Sakura and PortablePlaPlace buttons for my 5, never noticed any difference. Idk

[white mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-bob-esponja-gif-25089940

I know it worked for me... maybe we just press buttons differently? 😛

[grizzled mason]

Did you happen to trim off the excess glue from the 5’s membranes? I know most people usually say you don’t need to, but I find that leaving that extra material either at best makes them hit the top of the frame more easily (making them more clacky), or at worst they outright make the buttons way worse and potentially even press on their own since the extra material would push them to the point of actuation.

[gusty rain]

Yep I stripped every little speck of glue off, as best I could at least. Spent a good 3 hrs on it lol

Either way even if it ended up working perfectly, I just shouldn't need to perform that.

That's a 50 dollar anbernic maneuver.

Who funnily enough get their membranes perfect every time. Wild

[median mica]

Hope they have better plastic. I saw screws along seam lines which is one of the biggest flaws in the pocket air line. Almost always cracked or split eventually

I'll watch again in a sec. Maybe I'm wrong

Nope. 2 on the bottom. Whyyyyyyy

With glass front the back should really only be 1 piece

[median mica]

Should have gone darker purple. Guess it's kinda taro colored

[median mica]

Yeah. I really like his stuff

[white mortar]

https://live.bilibili.com/22261377?live_from=84002&spm_id_from=333.337.0.0

[median mica]

But yeah. Those screws. Uerggggg

[gusty rain]

Konkr budget 👌

[final coral]

I’m getting fomo with these early bird prices

Especially for the base model

[median mica]

Def best option imo.

Hopefully the pocket air plastic was just bad

[remote nacelle]

Man Konkr vs Odin 3 was such a hard decision to make

[gusty rain]

Seems pretty black n white to me. Just comes down to if you care more about emulation or native play.

[median mica]

Personally it's more a G3 vs 8 elite decision. Odin 3 seems solid for 8 elite. And only one option for g3

[remote nacelle]

Yeah for the 8 elite I mean

[median mica]

I don't mind investing in hopeful future potential tho

[remote nacelle]

I know it’s bad practice but I 100% bought the Odin 3 for the future potential of the 8 elite with pc emulation

Not that the 8 elite as it is right now is a bad chip by any means

[grizzled mason]

Well, they get it right by the 2nd to 3rd try for every device.

Still annoyed about the D-pad membrane on the 35XX H and the membranes for both the face buttons and the D-Pad on the 35XX SP v1.

[grizzled mason]

Like, the d-pad on the H was really notably worse than the 35XX+, in spite of them supposedly being the exact same. They apparently fixed it in later models, but fuck if I’m paying for a second one of those.

[gusty rain]

Well I specifically meant the face button membrane but yeah the dpads are much more volatile

[plush obsidian]

so how many of you have ordered a KONKR by now? Super Early Bird won't be up forever, a whole week is already pretty generous

[tawdry trail]

If they offer the B Duck color for their G3 Gen3 skus I’m in

[remote nacelle]

It’s G3 gen 3 not 8 gen 3

[tawdry trail]

I meant to say that, my brain definitely deteriorated a lot over the past days

[plush obsidian]

this whole server is already running on a single brain cell, don't damage it

[tiny lion]

It seems that they do refund yourn order or send a new one if it's shipped by DHL and gets lost. Anyway, I guess I'll choose DPD

[plush obsidian]

Support always with contradicting statements

anyway if I don't get my shit, chargeback it is

[tawdry trail]

That’s the way

[solid drum]

I feel you man. I really do

[white mortar]

I ordered mine yesterday

[grizzled phoenix]

Can we pay we PayPal on IGG?

[grizzled phoenix]

I’m still hesitating to get the base vs a Mini… depending on the SOC 😮

[plush obsidian]

afaik only via credit cart (or a debit card that allows for such)

[rigid wadi]

Is Ayaneo's default shipping method DHL for USA?

[crimson quarry]

Believe so

That's what they kept giving me

[grizzled phoenix]

I don’t know if my bank allows a charge back… that’s not a common practice in France.

[plush obsidian]

it's generally their default

[coarse coral]

I'm generally very much in favour of handhelds getting more distinct colour schemes and themes, but this feels like something that would be marketed towards teenagers in 2005 lol

Maybe that was the exact intention

But I feel like that's one of those trends people don't look back on fondly

[median mica]

To be fair it's so damn close. Lol

[final coral]

How many hours left of seb?

[grizzled phoenix]

So I just checked and my bank doesn't allow chargebacks... 🙁
So DHL would be more secure, but with taxes and DHL fees, the deals seems less interesting!

[undone lance]

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxs8GqUaxe4EDUWnS_EE_9j8C3YU-BWGfZ?si=86QucURJuF6na4LN is there interest in this thing or should I skip

[woven steppe]

8gb useless btw

u will be not able to play/test heavy switch games and x86 (ps3/xbox also)

[undone lance]

I have the Odin3 Ultra coming for that

maybe I get the pro but what makes this device interesting for me is the lowest price point

[marsh parcel]

And the security for me that the g3g3 will be able to handle the games my odin 3 ultra's elite chip lacks support for

I bought both as well

[woven steppe]

best possible decision

[median mica]

If you buy everything you can play everything. The only way that makes sense

[marsh parcel]

Can't take money with me when I die. Might as well enjoy it xD

[undone lance]

thank you sir

[undone lance]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-bow-master-smile-gif-12365468

[worthy flicker]

Personally interested in 12/256gb g3gen3 version, highly likely will order it before super early bird offer ends😅

[undone lance]

when does it end?

[worthy flicker]

(Super Early Bird Offer Period: Sep 6th to Sep 13th)

[undone lance]

ok ok, will need to make a purchase soon

[woven steppe]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cFHRztEUg/ Farcry4 Elite
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16iH8zdE73/
https://youtu.be/VwCHsKJvdTc

[elder trench]

Do we know if the SEB will be available all day Saturday or be gone as soon as it's the 13th?

[elder trench]

anyone know for how long youve got the option to cancel a backing/order on indiegogo?

and if well see any hands on with the konker early or not

[plush obsidian]

you can cancel until it ships, even if IGG won't let you cancel anymore, just writing them a mail is enough

[marsh parcel]

Sweet. Upgraded from pocket fit 12/256 to 16/512 by emailing them. Now I truly have no concerns about this console xD

Well...unless they send me the 12 anyway

[plush obsidian]

yeah team 16/512

not that 12/256 wouldn't be enough tbh

[marsh parcel]

Probably would but the extra internal storage is nice

[white mortar]

is it October yet? 👀

[final coral]

FOMO

Don’t know what I’d do differently on it but want that base model

So it’s £260 for 12gb g3 with accessories and shipping, would I potentially have to pay more tax coming into the uk ?

[grizzled phoenix]

Yes, you will have taxes and DHL fees if you don’t ask it to be shipped through DPD

[hollow chasm]

for US shipping, they'll forward it to Singapore first to lower the tariff

[remote nacelle]

DHL

[raven ridge]

Do we know if the G3 and Elite model will be shipped at the same time or do the G3 models go out first ?

[calm scroll]

It says it on the perks. G3 version is October and the Elite version is December

[raven ridge]

Thanks must of missed it

[final coral]

How long until super early bird ends and I wish I’d ordered

[plush obsidian]

Super Early Bird ends tomorrow

[final coral]

How many hours

[plush obsidian]

can't say really, early morning for Americans iirc

[white mortar]

I just wanna play on that thang!

[rancid verge]

Is the screen refresh adjustable? Was thinking of ordering as could be interesting with BFI but wondering how that works with 144hz... would you not need to set 120hz as refresh?

[plush garden]

Looks like super early bird extended until end of the month and small battery upgrade

[undone lance]

previous ayaneos could use 144, 120, 90, 60 I believe

[queen pilot]

"free battery upgrade for a limited time" , sounds like just pushing people to order asap. make no sense for them to maintain 2 different battery size in future instead of just 1 (they already have enough SKUs). and its just 400mah difference anyway.

[undone lance]

it’s a bit odd, they overclocked a limited batch of the batteries

[split silo]

This might be the longest super early bird ever

[undone lance]

ends 30th Sept, it was extended

[split silo]

Now I feel like I almost have to get one

[undone lance]

stay strong

(I bought one )

[plush obsidian]

they can't do a 10.000mAh battery without Pocket S2 owners rioting

[woven steppe]

they dont have space for it

[plush obsidian]

who knows

but smart-ish move to extend the Super Early Bird

orders will only roll in after reviews

[woven steppe]

yeah, ayanao shock me ... seems like konkr lead marketing someone with big brain, or they just improves that much

[queen pilot]

how did they fit it into a pocket s2 which seems slimmer/smaller then?

unless there is some "overmarketing" for the battery capacity. (which happens for some 3rd party batteries sometime)

[woven steppe]

they are different (different layout inside, different components)

[woven steppe]

can be also

we know only that?

[calm scroll]

This seems like desperation

[woven steppe]

should check bilibili

[split silo]

Yeah it does, it's kind of working on me though

[plush obsidian]

good good, let them KONKR your wallet

[calm scroll]

I was waiting for you to show up 🤣

[plush garden]

Def desperate on their end but good for us haha

[remote nacelle]

Trying to get me to cancel my Odin 3 I see

[calm scroll]

Absolutely. More for the money is always good

[plush obsidian]

always up for a good deal

[calm scroll]

And making sure everyone is coerced into it as well 😅

[grizzled mason]

Yeah, and turns out we were right to assume these things were way more popular in China.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pocket-fit-premier-hi-performance-android-handheld?utm_term=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bck-09122025update&utm_source=cordial#/updates/3

[plush obsidian]

they have to buy it, if they don't AYA won't compete with AYN anymore and I won't get any good deals like these

[grizzled mason]

This is only comparing to other AYANEO devices, but considering they’re already a good bit more popular in China anyways, it still says a lot.

[calm scroll]

Do we have any numbers from China at all?

[plush obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/drevil-billion-gagillion-gif-20035629

[queen pilot]

At the price this going for compared to their previous marked up devices, no surprise it sells better

[grizzled mason]

Unfortunately no since none of these company’s share info like that on an international level.

But at least they’re using it as an excuse to extend the Super Early Bird.

And apparently a free battery upgrade.

[queen pilot]

their super early bird vs odin 3 's early bird pricing make much more sense (except the 24gb+1t option) , should have been this way originally

[calm scroll]

More time for @plush obsidian to force people into buying it

[silver herald]

i just waiting my preorder with Gen3, i hope it will happens in October 🤑

[remote nacelle]

Should I cancel my Odin 3 ultra for Konkr

[plush obsidian]

nah, buy both

[marsh parcel]

Agree. Both is best

[ruby trellis]

Sell a kidney. Buy three of each. Problem solved.

No wait, buy fifty R36S.

[pulsar moat]

I opted for the Gen3 version, on the hope that there will be slightly improved compatibility over the Elite.

Hopefully be a blast, my only other handhelds are Miyoo mini plus and RG35XXH

[marsh parcel]

Strap them all together to make a super console

[woven steppe]

if u dont need oled that much, ofc

[outer scroll]

ah damn it, I thought if I managed to stay strong for a week I'd be safe

[remote nacelle]

Compatibility will be better than elite out of the gate yea for sure. But elite has far higher performance ceiling

[woven steppe]

Gen3 has full turnip support, like 8 gen 3

its not slightly comp, its HUGE difference

[remote nacelle]

G3g3 for compatibility, elite for raw power

[woven steppe]

but anytime can happened something insane, since AYN and AYANEO try to push lazy ass (in firmware) Qualcomm

[pulsar moat]

Yeah, I'd really like a mini steam deck, but I don't think Elite8 is just there yet, so I opted for turnip driver compatibility for now for emu, and maybe buy something new in a year or 2 when PC emulation is improved

[ruby trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/kit-fisto-jedi-star-wars-the-clone-wars-that-power-will-only-consume-you-gif-16033248

[quiet raptor]

If they game some superfan discounts like AYN did i would get the Gen3 12/16 gb one, but the difference in price still not enough to make me let the OLED screen of the Odin3 go

[crimson quarry]

449 o3 vs 352 konkr is a big difference in price

unless you got a superfan which idk the price but yea

[quiet raptor]

I got it

And honestly, about the G3 model, paying $60 more for 4gb of ram and 128gb of storage seems too much

[ruby trellis]

That's because Odin 3 Early Birds are no longer Super. The price difference while the Odin 3 was still SEB was quite a bit smaller.

[crimson quarry]

you pay 70 for the next tier on the o3 compared to 50 on the konkr

[grizzled phoenix]

Perfect, I hope to get Mini details before and maybe... Retroid?

[crimson quarry]

think retroid prob gonna do something near nov

[ruby trellis]

As far as I can see, current prices for the 16/512 Elite are 389 (Konkr) and 449 (Odin 3). Still a $60 difference, but if you account for the OLED, it makes sense.

[grizzled phoenix]

Interesting...

[crimson quarry]

current prices

the sale last the whole month

[ruby trellis]

Yes, you're comparing the Konkr Gen3 with the Odin3 Elite.

[crimson quarry]

yea thats what he mentioned

not the elite

[ruby trellis]

Well of course the Gen3 is cheaper. I don't understand what you're getting at. 🤨

[quiet raptor]

I mean the G3 12gb is not priced well. Its $60 more the the 8gb but $50 less than then 16gb.

[crimson quarry]

because he was comparing the g3 price difference to the elite price of the odin 3 so I was telling him the price dif

yea the 12g is the best model for sure its the one that makes the most sense

[quiet raptor]

Its not cheap enough to make me cancel my SEB ODIN3

[crimson quarry]

I mean i don't think anyone would for a seb elite

[pulsar moat]

I also got an email saying "All previous orders will receive a free battery upgrade to 8400mAh, and new orders will also enjoy this benefit"

[crimson quarry]

yea they just upgraded the battery is all

tho I wish they would just take the s2 battery

[pulsar moat]

The Odin looks great too, but I can't be bothered faffing with the Elite just yet lol

[crimson quarry]

that's why I believe the g3 is the best option for now

[final coral]

Extended early bird oh no, thought I’d got through it

[wheat osprey]

just gotta hold out for a few more weeks 😉

[plush obsidian]

they need to ship a G3 Gen3 KONKR to Russ right now

[crimson quarry]

We know how its going to perform i just want to see him mention the feel and buttons

Dpad always worries me

[plush garden]

Looked and sounded a lot like the pocket ace dpad, which was a little prone to false diagonals but wasnt bad

[crimson quarry]

Idk what that looks like i missed the ace launch and reviews

Ill check it out

[sweet kiln]

They extended the super early bird till the 30th

[wheat osprey]

ir is nice it's been extended that much

[barren scarab]

Im contemplating this, but 8gb of ram is pretty low for the power available. Going from my odin 2 12gb for higher end winlator, I dont know if it would be worth it if I just got the basic 8gb

[remote nacelle]

Konkr goes up to 16 or 24gbs

[crimson quarry]

24

[woven steppe]

8gb not worth

for anything above 6th gen

[barren scarab]

Yeah but I ain't got that kinda money

Honestly if I got an elite, I feel like 12 is the bare minimum but really it should be the 16

Nah im just gonna be happy with whay I got

[ruby trellis]

Do you intend to put an SD card, and if so do you already have one or do you have to buy one ?

If you're going to expand the storage, for the price of a good SD card you may as well get the 16GB. That way you get more storage and more RAM.

[barren scarab]

I have a 1tb mSD right now in my odin 2

[plush obsidian]

I mean, you can run 99% of the Switch library and Eden is just getting more RAM efficient... if you want Android games and what the chipset can reasonably handle in terms of Winlator the 12gb SKU is naturally better and also gives some headroom

[woven steppe]

:/ 99%?

[plush obsidian]

at least in terms of RAM, Emulator compatibility ain't there yet

[woven steppe]

yeah ik, but cant agree with that

many heavy games on 8gb will crush after amount of time

[plush obsidian]

if you say so

[raven ridge]

Yes

[raven ridge]

I thought I had the Superfan price until I found out my bank declined for potential fraud , know I know it has nothing to do with AYN but your 100% correct on price is a substantial difference and bought a Fit instead

[crimson quarry]

oof

alot of people seem to get declined lately

[plush obsidian]

you Americans need to be more patriotic and buy your Apple handhelds

[marsh parcel]

🤮

[outer scroll]

watch this no longer being an argument by the time these ship

[plush garden]

I dont think it will be that simple since the elite has different architecture

[outer scroll]

yeah I know, just a tongue in cheek comment

but it would be funny

[mellow cedar]

anyone know if this will have microswitch dpad

[tawdry trail]

8400mAh battery upgrade

[sweet kiln]

Would've preferred sticks upgrade but hey we got something!

[tawdry trail]

Only got mildy bigger caps, maybe Chinese buyers have smaller thumbs

[crimson quarry]

Yes they give you two sizes in the box

[tawdry trail]

Oh you don’t have to order extra

[crimson quarry]

Idky these Chinese handhelds use baby sticks lol had to get 3rd party sticks for my o2 and I can't go back

No

You get the smaller ace ones and the bigger ones on the top unit

During the konkr stream he says you get 2 sizes with your package

And the Chinese dude who showed it off got a extra set too

[white mortar]

might just put the newer portal caps on this... 😛

[sweet kiln]

I just emailed to see if I can add a case I forgot to add I purchased to quickly.

[sweet kiln]

Looks like screen protector already applied in pics it is that just the all front glass?

[tawdry trail]

nah that's the front glass

no screen protector apllied

[grizzled mason]

Konkr Pocket Fit Elite is usually only $30 more at the Super EB Prices.

[remote nacelle]

Man I’m lowkey considering canceling my Odin 3 for Konkr

[sweet kiln]

I'm not really liking every one using all glass hope they change up for next few devices.

[remote nacelle]

Yeah same

[split silo]

I need a pocket ace 8 elite version

[sweet kiln]

I like the look if pocket ace was thinking of getting that one it's just a tad much

[tawdry trail]

don't lie

[sweet kiln]

Yeah I never heard anyone before now say they wanna cancel Odin 3 😆

[tawdry trail]

it's just sniffer doing sniffer things

[remote nacelle]

Well

Odin 3 is OLED and I’m not a huge fan of OLED

[sweet kiln]

For me I just like the over all look of Fit better. Oled starting to be a tad overrated.

[remote nacelle]

Odin 3 also has Nintendo abxy which I’m also not a fan of

[sweet kiln]

Colors do tend to pop more in oled but on these small screens just depends on what your playing.

[crimson quarry]

Idky they do that

[remote nacelle]

Idk how long it take Ayn to process refunds

[crimson quarry]

24 hours

[sweet kiln]

I'm surprised Odin 3 only one chip option.

[remote nacelle]

Damn really

[outer scroll]

said nobody ever

[tawdry trail]

it's seems to be a fantastic oled screen though

no flicker between 10% and 100% brightness

[remote nacelle]

Said me right now

[remote nacelle]

Ye it’s moreso the burn in part

[tawdry trail]

I admit, displaying static images like the thor control center can definitely cause burn in

gotta turn that thing off unless you're ingame for ds and 3ds games

[crimson quarry]

Can you turn off the bottom screen

[tawdry trail]

you can even turn off the top screen

[crimson quarry]

Ah ok

[remote nacelle]

Idk guys is Konkr worth it over Odin 3

[split silo]

I mean it is technically better in price to performance

Biggest difference is just the screen imo

[tawdry trail]

just wait until the end of the month when thor reviews drop, then you can see how good or bad the odin3 screen really is

[remote nacelle]

Ye but super early bird be gone then

[tawdry trail]

nah you will have a few days

until september 30th

[remote nacelle]

Hmmmm

Guess I’ll wait and see yeah

[rigid wadi]

Will Ayaneo deliver with 4px shipping ?

[undone lance]

they have alternatives (for UK anyway)

[final coral]

Wonder if they’ll be any review units out and time for some early videos before the 30th

[tawdry trail]

maybe some chinese reviews with subtitles

[crimson quarry]

only seen one review unit so far

[undone lance]

that review was quite good

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bnLfOCYj-DE

[woven steppe]

empty

[grizzled phoenix]

If I knew that playing with the D-pad is kinda OK, I think I would put in my order...
But I also need to know the SOC in the Air Mini. If it's PS2 capable, I would go for it instead.

[mossy karma]

same here, got plente enuff power and compability. think ill go with the fit but also havent finally decided but rn its fit. compability is imho most important it it looks its more ergnomic

option 3: wait for a 7" oled gen3 but who knows when and if

[raven ridge]

If you wait forever you often times end up with nothing

[mossy karma]

exactly, thats why wont cancel both 😄 (i think :D)

[worthy flicker]

Me too

[coarse coral]

I wasn't even referring to that lol

I had other, genuinely horrible news

News that made me want to splurge

But now I'm glad I didn't

[median mica]

Their marketing leading up was ass. Throwing bones to increase sales really isn't marketing. Probably smart move tho

Figure if I hold out putting in an order long enough they'll just give me a free S2 for purchasing

[mossy karma]

i still dont understand why they upgraded the perks. on igg the preorders are totally low, how can they call this a sucess on the chinese market?

[silver herald]

in china people like LCD more then OLED

[mossy karma]

that does not answer the question. they dont have even 300 preorders, who knows how many are from china, and the call it "best-selling Android gaming handheld from AYANEO/KONKR in the Chinese market!"

either there must be a hidden china igg or they have an other chinese preorder website

[silver herald]

Maybe and because of processor, gen3 is more capable at this moment. Maybe Ayaneo is more known in China too, who knows 🙂

[grizzled mason]

Because the IGG isn’t for Chinese domestic orders in the first place, it’s for international sales. China has their own methods for ordering the handhelds.

[undone lance]

https://ayaneo.com.cn/goods/667

[queen pilot]

They take order directly on their site for domestic if I am not wrong, so we don't have any numbers

[grizzled mason]

Frankly I don’t get why people didn’t just flat out tell you it’s exactly this, since it should outright be well known in the community by now that the entirety of our international community is potentially less than the sales these companies usually make from Domestic orders.

[queen pilot]

Possible, but there are no numbers to support that claim (entire of international sales less than domestic) as well.

And may differ for higher prices stuff vs the sub 100 devices, or even on device basis.

[grizzled mason]

So in other words the Odin 3 could be selling awfully in China and we would never know?

Since, the one thing we can verify is that they do actively prefer LCD over OLED (The reasoning being the part that’s way less defined)?

[queen pilot]

Possible as well. For Ayn they accept domestic pre orders via both their website and JD for thor and o3.

I don't have a JD account so maybe someone can go look it up for sales on the JD site.

But yea, for sales on their own site, we don't have numbers

Magicx / XU retro seems comfortable selling internationally only (at least officially).

[mossy karma]

uhh no thx

[tiny wagon]

From what little we have heard, china sales are "several times higher".

Chinas orders are also usually the reason for most of the delays they have in shipping. Thats probably why they are pushed back the ds shipping and why this is so much later.

[tiny wagon]

Allegedly the reason is PWM flicker. I cant for the life of me notice it but it can give some people headaches

[white mortar]

so... when do you guys realistically expect this thing to start shipping?

[tiny wagon]

I dont think it will actually be much later than their estimates. Order volume is pretty small for international.

[white mortar]

that is true... 🤔

[undone lance]

Chinese eyeballs have a higher refresh rate

[tawdry trail]

Its name is literally zero40 and not zero45.

Who made that graphic

Screen is 4“

[plush obsidian]

nah, Odin 3 is up on Chinese IGG and sold like 3000 units there already... Thor was 5000 iirc

[crimson quarry]

where can you find that

[plush obsidian]

jingdong or jd.com

I think

dunno someone posted pictures of their chinese sales while it was still on Super Early Bird

[tawdry trail]

#🔥│upcoming-chat message

jd dot com is right

Aya doesn’t use it as much ayn does, so it’s difficult to compare sales

[plush obsidian]

well, at the very least AYA will have outsold the Odin 3 in China, the lower price + LCD are a no-brainer for most Chinese

[queen pilot]

They accept orders via their own domestic site as well other than JD, so that's definitely good numbers.

But might have cancellations later as they only have to pay a small fee for preorder if I am not wrong.

[crimson quarry]

yea both pay a small fee

[grizzled phoenix]

Base Elite vs 12G G3, what would be your choice? 🤔 (without any current special need in term of Switch emulation or PC emulation, though PC emulation could become a thing)

[marsh parcel]

12g g3

[thorny rivet]

Seconded

[woven steppe]

G3 ofc

[tawdry trail]

g3 fasho

[undone lance]

I went for base g3

[plush obsidian]

the base Elite is completely pointless, the 12gb G3 can handle way more

will comfortably do everything up to Switch and a fat chunk of Winlator, compared to a shackled down 8 Elite SoC which has no driver support for Switch and won't do much Winlator due to RAM limitations

[grizzled phoenix]

It's quite unanimous good 😁

But then, Base G3 vs 12GB G3, I'm still hesitating...

The Base G3 has such a crazy price/value ratio with the SEB...

[plush obsidian]

well, it's quite obvious that

G3 Gen3
8/128 - good for everything up to Switch, lil to no headroom in terms of RAM
12/256 - comfortably will do all Switch stuff and has enough RAM for a lot of Winlator stuff this SoC can handle
16/512 - due to recent improvements in Winlator/Gamehub you may want to go with this if you are interested to emulate more recent PC games that require more than 12gb RAM
16/1024 - you are literally buying in for more internal storage

8 Elite
8/128 - pointless SKU, no compatibility for Switch, shackled due to RAM limitations
12/256 - should have been the base SKU, will do a lot of Winlator but ideally you want more RAM and internal storage as Winlator will be the main focus for an 8 Elite device tbh
16/512 - what most should probably go for, has enough RAM for the demanding stuff and a reasonable amount of internal
24/1024 - unnecessary amounts of RAM, you just want more internal

[ruby trellis]

What are the hardware upsides to the Konkr, compared to the O3 ?

[woven steppe]

16gb need too on G3 for heavy X86 stuff

[ruby trellis]

I see possibly better ergos (the shape seems more pronounced).

The Konkr has trigger stops, don't know about the O3.

The Konkr has LC and RC buttons (the two small ones next to the bumper).

[tawdry trail]

400mAh bigger battery ( which probably gets cancelled out by o3 being oled)
And maybe the sticks being tmr instead of Hall effect

But then again, they’re smaller

[ruby trellis]

On paper, and apart from the bigger sticks and OLED screen, the Konkr seems more featureful.

And yet I don't know why, but I'm more drawn to the Odin 3. 🤷‍♂️

(I've never had either an Ayn or an Ayaneo device in hand, so it's not from previous experience.)

[crimson quarry]

konkr also supports usb type c 3.2

[plush obsidian]

you won't buy the G3 Gen3 to run Witcher 3 in the first place, it's not even at the point where you will do it at good framerates on the 8 Elite and there are very few games that need more than 12gb RAM to begin with, let alone many that would run reasonably on the G3 Gen3

[ruby trellis]

What does that mean in real life ? A lot of USB ports are marked "USB 4 compatible" but actually transfer at 2.0 speeds.

[plush obsidian]

KONKR is 10Gbps transfer speed

[crimson quarry]

if you dock I believe its 4k 120

[plush obsidian]

docking is also 4k 120hz yeah

[woven steppe]

no idea why u say that, check Witcher 3 tests ...

[grizzled phoenix]

If I ever play x86 on it, that would be probably light indie games.

[woven steppe]

until u try something demanding first time

its like challenge, what this thing can actually run)

[grizzled phoenix]

I have my gaming PC for this and my 42inch screen 😄

[plush obsidian]

okay, just looked, there seem to have been some improvements, last time I checked 8 Elite was barely churning out 30fps

[woven steppe]

super different

[woven steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM9n938dcRw

u didnt see that?

8Gen3 Leading Version

[plush obsidian]

nah I don't watch Spanish stuff

[woven steppe]

rdr way more demanding

gamehub growing so fast ...

it almost catch bionic in every game

in some already beat

[quiet raptor]

Then you are luck, its in portuguese*

[woven steppe]

Forza5 in 1-2m will be playable full spoiler 🙂

online ofc

[quiet raptor]

portuguese*

[plush obsidian]

certainly impressive that it does pretty stable 30fps in RDR2

[woven steppe]

yup

and it just 8Gen3 (Lv tiny boost), not G3

[plush obsidian]

okay, with the improvements in Winlator/Gamehub a 16gb RAM G3 Gen3 may make more sense than it did previously

[woven steppe]

exactly

games like rdr would be fine with 12gb ram, but latest eh

even when u have enough horse power, game will die due to luck of ram

like cronus2025 🙂

to simple: AAA games 2020 and above ask/need 16GB avg

2024-2025, even 16 can be not enough in some games

[plush obsidian]

nobody sane would expect to EMULATE recent games on their Android handheld

like most of that shit has trouble running on decent PCs

[remote nacelle]

It’s the insane people that push emulation forward

[woven steppe]

https://youtu.be/pIOLkldNJNo

on elite tablet better btw

[remote nacelle]

These psychos have BG3 running on 8 elite

Games supporting native Vulcan helps a lot

[woven steppe]

agree, but some of them broken with vulcan

[plush obsidian]

okay, I give up, Gamehub gets some insane results

when do we run Clair Obscure and FF7 Rebirth

[remote nacelle]

Someone has probably already tried

E33 is on my list of games I’m gonna try when my Odin 3 gets here

Stellar blade is top tho

[crimson quarry]

Gooner blade

[remote nacelle]

Theoretically it should run well cuz it’s really well optimized on PC

[grizzled mason]

Not really, depending on the screen. The OLED panel in the RP5 is way more power hungry than the OLED panel in the RP Mini, and IPS screens can also have a decent variety of power draws (like the DSi XL’s IPS screens unironically using less power than the original DSi’s TN screens, in spite of the XL’s being bigger with the exact same resolution).

In general, it’ll depend on the specific screen.

[remote nacelle]

Idk where people keep getting the idea that OLEDs are magically more power efficient than LCDs lol

In some scenarios they are

But in others they aren’t

[gusty rain]

If you're a dark mode user in menus/browsing and/or play a lot of darker themed games then yeah it will

[remote nacelle]

So if you use it in a very specific way it is

But in practice it isn’t

The only time you see a big difference is with mini LED

[gusty rain]

I wouldn't call that "very specific" that's extremely common use terms lol

More common than the opposite

[remote nacelle]

Yeah that’s fair

If skimming menus is 90% of your use time

If you’re buying an Odin 3 for menus and web browsing then honestly you have bigger problems

[crimson quarry]

That's gonna be alot

[gusty rain]

Or you know...playing majority of non retro briht Nintendo games

[remote nacelle]

Is OLED really giving you hours of more battery life

[gusty rain]

Actually no include those too, since the pillarboxing plays into the benefit too

[remote nacelle]

Smells like more OLED glazing at this point

[gusty rain]

Smells way more like bias to me

[remote nacelle]

That too

But let’s be real, what’s the difference

[gusty rain]

It's unreasonable to expect HOURS more I agree there

[woven steppe]

soon

[gusty rain]

But even if it's a few minutes while ALSO getting much better viewing contrasts the only negative becomes the cost

[remote nacelle]

And burn in

And low light pwm flicker

Oh wait burn in isn’t an issue anymore

[median mica]

Again. Not even sure this is supported. I mean it's something the west constantly says about the east, but we don't really have numbers either. Sure they post about it a lot in their comment section, but a lot of people in the west post the same things here. Really hard to say anything.

[plush obsidian]

Sniffs working for AYA

[remote nacelle]

I wish

Haven’t gotten my paycheck from them yet

[median mica]

I think we need a mole

Inside Ayaneo

[remote nacelle]

I’d be a good mole

[crimson quarry]

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/lcd-vs-oled/

[remote nacelle]

just need to learn mandarin

[median mica]

Hire this man a tutor

[plush obsidian]

they get around with google translator too

[crimson quarry]

Hire the dude who does the translation on the ayaneo streams

[remote nacelle]

Not to sound like an ass but large TV panels and small handheld panels are pretty different

[median mica]

Like LCD def has some pros. But china is unique in this instance in the sense that a large set of their buyers probably aren't always online like the foreign buyers of the same products

Like the only people I know IRL who buy these handhelds are people in these servers. Heh

[tawdry trail]

DC dimming upwards of 10% brightness probably speaks for a modern oled screen that’s probably more efficient.

Surely it can give your at least 5% more battery life vs a lcd display

[median mica]

Kinda like how everyone who buys an Xbox in the west isn't on discord constantly talking about it

[remote nacelle]

Chinese people are probably less inclined to like blindly glaze OLED cuz their favorite billibilli creator says it’s good

[median mica]

There's a whole list of reasons, Korea being the main supplier and their history, national pride (way more LCD production in China than OLED), advertising of advanced LCD is way more prevalent in China, because of that same reason. But yeah. Without exact numbers I hesitate to just be like, they all like LCD more because of some technology

We use it a lot in the west to explain it that way tho

[grizzled mason]

Again, depends on the power draw of the OLED and the LCD panels being compared.

[tiny lion]

I prefer OLED vs LCD but is not a deal breaker to me. There are other things more important IMO: ergonomy, controls... Good LCD makes you forget you are playing on a LCD handheld

[remote nacelle]

I’ll take a good lcd any day for its longevity

[median mica]

Dude. If they put dimming on these smaller LCDs I'd be down

[quiet raptor]

Konkr panel looks good in their stream

[median mica]

It's awesome on my 75 inch tv

[median mica]

Even that looks a little less vibrant to me, but I'm sure it's not bad

Could be lighting too

[crimson quarry]

idky I thought that was pokemon on the screen

[quiet raptor]

You can barelly see the black of the panel on left side of the screen

[grizzled mason]

Like I mentioned above, the LG Wing Bottom screen currently shows an obscenely efficient power draw considering it’s able to go all the way up to max with only a slight power draw increase from around 50%.

[median mica]

Yeah but those aren't the bars people are worried about. Other systems will be bigger

[grizzled mason]

If their custom screen can get at least similar results (at least at 60hz), then yeah the 400mAh will do jack shit to stop the Odin 3 from lasting way freaking longer.

[median mica]

Or you stretch and then it's less of a concern

But stretchhhh

[quiet raptor]

No stretch lol

Just looking for some pictures for reference

Looks like a good LCD to me

[grizzled mason]

But if it’s around the same power draw or even more than the Konkr’s screen for whatever reason (I’d personally have no clue how the fuck they’d manage to make their screen drain more power beyond poor power optimization, just mentioning it to cover my bases), then the Konkr would be the one lasting longer instead (where if it’s only around the same, the battery difference would only be a slight amount).

[crimson quarry]

doesn't look bad but its still from a video

[woven steppe]

they are, in all scenarios

[gusty rain]

Another note is that the higher power end audience also tend to care a bit more about input delay where lcds fall behind.

[remote nacelle]

I think you’re preaching in the wrong channel buddy

[median mica]

Le sigh. No. No they're not. It depends on content displayed

[gusty rain]

I'm simply stating factual points you can have whatever prefernce you want. Idk why you think im attacking you lol

Couldn't care less what you buy bud

[median mica]

I thought this was understood by now

[remote nacelle]

Nobody is attacking anyone

At least that’s not my intention

[median mica]

OLEDs are "efficient" because they use less energy when black is on screen. An LCD and OLED both displaying full colored image continuously, OLEDs can be less efficient in this scenario

[woven steppe]

alr, when white colours not

[median mica]

They're great for phones because there's a lot of empty space in stuff that can be black

[woven steppe]

forgot about that

[grizzled mason]

Except that also could get canceled out by the devices themselves having poor input latency. It’s the whole reason having 120hz or more on even an OLED panel is appealing, since a higher refresh rate helps with the input latency that previous Odin 2 handhelds have had.

[woven steppe]

if pannel slow (gtg) higher refresh rate wont realy help

[remote nacelle]

If you care about input latency then you are looking in the wrong place with Android

[woven steppe]

it will be better, but not much

also u will see more graphical issues

[tiny lion]

We need the nits. They said "over 400", but that's not enough. I still see It a little bit dark

[grizzled mason]

Yes, but I don’t expect Ayn to cheap out and let the custom OLED panel be too slow.

[median mica]

It would be extremely dumb yes

[woven steppe]

switch 2 🙂

[median mica]

If you pay for it. Make it good

[woven steppe]

simpliest example when custom oled poor quality will be* IMO (bc of lcd quality what they use, maybe they change something)

[calm scroll]

Switch 2 isnt OLED?

[grizzled mason]

Really? Don’t see it on my end.

[woven steppe]

lcd

oled will be later

[crimson quarry]

the review video said it should be over 450

[grizzled mason]

It’s an IPS with VRR and “HDR”.

[woven steppe]

hdr 😄

[calm scroll]

Thought so

[gusty rain]

Of course but it's better to have one potential point of failure than two

[crimson quarry]

you guys just keep feeding him

[woven steppe]

this is just a joke

bad oled example rg557, how i can forget that legend device

[remote nacelle]

Switch 2 lcd is still a damn good lcd

[woven steppe]

Odin 3 can be the same lvl, and its rip

[woven steppe]

not even close to good pannels

[remote nacelle]

Subjectivity go brrrrr

[woven steppe]

yeah subjective results due to many tests

[grizzled mason]

Yup, honestly I was expecting to start seeing the ghosting in Silksong, and I actually did…when testing it on my Launch Switch.

[woven steppe]

pannel are horrible

[grizzled mason]

Meanwhile Switch 2 actually had less despite supposedly having a worse response time, weird.

[remote nacelle]

Have you personally used one

[woven steppe]

yeah, but thankfully not long

[crimson quarry]

[remote nacelle]

Lots of numbers but zero context I love it

[woven steppe]

Gray To Gray

response time

[raven ridge]

What is it with you and your focus on gooning ?
This is the second time in a few days you brought it up

[crimson quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/otaku-slide-got-it-オタク-イケてる-gif-11565084

[calm scroll]

Im amazed you find a device you actually want to use. You must spend more time capturing screenshots of numbers than actually using any device

[woven steppe]

😄

i like know everything about devices

[grizzled mason]

Huh, I wonder why I’ve been getting worse ghosting on my Launch Switch then?

[woven steppe]

no idea

[remote nacelle]

I find myself enjoying stuff a lot more when I quit worrying myself with fps and spec sheets

[woven steppe]

with switch 1 i have personaly no issues with ghosting

[wheat osprey]

its obvious he doesn't use any devices, just wants to chat about them 😄

[burnt totem]

So I'm curious does anyone actually have a list of what switch games need more then 8gb ram? Or at least some actual idea besides a random few? That would help decisions for some of these people. It seems the main reviewers never tested that completely. I know emulator development has been up and down the past year or so and that mgiht make it different.

[woven steppe]

zelda

[grizzled mason]

Cause on the Switch 2 I’ve got almost no ghosting at all unless I specifically do the test with Mario…a 60hz game…

[woven steppe]

lucky

[calm scroll]

If I ever find myself looking at Grey to Grey response times I think its time to give up this hobby 😅

[remote nacelle]

Yeah I haven’t noticed any ghosting on switch 2

[woven steppe]

If you like it, that's fine. I'm just sharing my point of view based on personal experience, knowledge, and real-world tests

[crimson quarry]

you guys clearly aren't looking hard enough gosh

speaking of switch 2

[grizzled mason]

Wait…oh god damnit, is the Switch 2 just more prone to ghosting on NSO for NES because of the 60hz and low power demand?

[woven steppe]

if this screen will have no issues with speed, it will be good

[crimson quarry]

that new fire emblem

[remote nacelle]

Just say it like it is, you have too high standards

[crimson quarry]

😭

[calm scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[gusty rain]

Love how they say they "like to know everything about devices" but ignore almost everything that is presented not found by them

[crimson quarry]

kira ill fight you

[woven steppe]

nah

[gusty rain]

Some flat earth theory shit

[burnt totem]

Is that it? Lol

[woven steppe]

no, i dont have a list

[calm scroll]

Basically BotW and TotK yes

[woven steppe]

but zelda is obv variant which ask more than 8 gb ram

maybe witcher 3 with graphical mods and other games like that

[remote nacelle]

Live and let live bro

[burnt totem]

Well then people should chill with the you need more ram for switch.

[grizzled mason]

Nah, it’s just one of them. There’s a couple other games that need more than 8GB, but it’s more due to lack of optimization (like SMT V Vengeance).

[burnt totem]

Like I constantly see people here say don't get base G3 because it needs more for switch.

[woven steppe]

and it was true

[burnt totem]

I get that getting 12 is a good option for sure though.

[woven steppe]

switch mean u can play everything with no problem, no? when u already buy high-end device

[grizzled mason]

Oh I don’t give a shit about the ram for Switch since I just prefer playing switch on a Modded Switch Lite, I usually want more ram for Winlator and texture packs, and even then I’m way more interested in having more than 128GB Internal storage than I am on RAM (for the same Texture pack reason).

[burnt totem]

I bought 16 GB O3 so I get it

[woven steppe]

good job

[burnt totem]

Yeah I understand that, I just constantly seeing people be a bit misleading.

I understand it's a bit hard to explain over text without getting into a few paragraphs sometimes

[woven steppe]

gamehub 😄

it impressing more now

bruno do something big, but still no leaks

[burnt totem]

Winlator getting a lot of attention because of gamehub and others.

[wheat osprey]

gamehub is fun, though only done a bit of it on my odin 2 portal

[burnt totem]

A little.more mainstream because people want steam games on their phones.

[calm scroll]

I think its more of a to be safe kind of thing but yeah 8gb will do for most switch

[grizzled mason]

That ain’t what I’m seeing from it, considering both me and DJ have been having a hard time finding games that boot on the newest update.

[burnt totem]

They released another update that supposedly fixed some issues

[woven steppe]

5.0.4 broken yes

[burnt totem]

I haven't test but that's what I saw

[woven steppe]

soon fix

[burnt totem]

I think they broke some stuff lol

I'm definitely going to test soon 🙂

[woven steppe]

most heavy punch for Mali devices

[grizzled mason]

Ah, fair enough then, I haven’t gotten the chance to update it after 5.0.4 yet so I can’t speak for how well it runs on a newer update.

[burnt totem]

I mean they probably broke other things fixing those things lol

It happens

[grizzled mason]

…Yeah, that would also sound about right.

[burnt totem]

Progress is nice though. It's an exciting time for all this.

[woven steppe]

Well, by the way, there is one thing: I know a lot about monitors, OLED/LCD Pannels, phones, etc., so I will most likely project the standards from there onto portable devices, and so far it looks sad.

[burnt totem]

Reminds me of when 8 gen 2 devices showed up.

[woven steppe]

maybe soon something changes

[remote nacelle]

So yes, you have high standards

[woven steppe]

prof-hazard maybe

[calm scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-elsa-disney-disney-princess-queen-gif-3597315

[woven steppe]

but even with ''high standarts'' i can say Pocket 5 screen excellent for handhelds, for any range SOC ... Even Elite

its not the best, not the worst ... just heavy middle for fair price

hope RP6 at least get the same quality panel

[crimson quarry]

so how about them stubb nubbs

[median mica]

,hey. Some devices are better at downloading charts then others

Man knows everything and nothing at all simultaneously. It's pretty impressive

Basically just an ai bot spewing first chart googled

Always buys maximum handheld storage for more chart storage

[pulsar moat]

I'm in "d'norf" and can get it....doesn't make sense lol

[mossy karma]

hmm i found a screenshot stating a konkr fit, which is also named in this thread here - a 7" device but I find nothing about this specific device anywhere. will this maybe come to a later date when this igg is finished or are there any other info about a 7" version?