#AYANEO Pocket DS

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silver heath
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Their immediate last predecessor (the Ace) is still taking forever to ship all the units out, and that had almost half of the current orders for this.

warped rapids
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Yep and that's a single example of how bad they are

silver heath
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I’m absolutely agreeing with Quadzilla on the fact that people should be willing and able to wait if they want this thing, because it’s honestly likely to take a while.

warped rapids
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Stubb's just talked about it on the podcast and Retro tech Dad was like I'm not giving them my money 6 months in advance haha

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Ayn could announce a DS as well and get it out long before. Like they did with the Portal.

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We will just have to wait and see

slender flame
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i preordered after understanding how cancelling works. in 60 days ill figure out if i want to keep the preorder or not. in addition to having a portal, i also wonder what ayn will do

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what if ayn did double oled...

wicked finch
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Don't forget they never even fulfilled all of the original flip orders

quasi bay
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That was like 5 people though, at least half a year after the campaign had ended

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And they refunded them

fervent night
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These devices selling out means more pocket ds’s in the used market later doggylol

tropic widget
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To be fair you can get these direct in 6 months for around the same price

vestal dawn
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Got hit with this too so I guess fate is telling me no 😂

finite quest
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if you don't get the highest tier retro gray model, I wouldn't expect to receive it in hand until probably Thanksgiving at least

olive dawn
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pocked ds turns off bottom screen when connected to video out

mild crystal
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prudis attempts to speak english

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Apparently I've made this joke before

olive dawn
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hey ... was jsut 2 missing letters

vernal spire
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They will have to ship more than 50 a week.This could make them or break them

olive dawn
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As long as they dont delay my 1s.. for the barrage of androidists ... I am fine kek

tropic frost
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And if you don't want a fancy colour option its really cheap for the price. Try getting a nice condition dual IPS New 3DS XL and then compare it to this beauty.

solid tundra
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Yeah honestly the early bird pricing is pretty good

olive dawn
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better than i expected for sure

idle reef
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Does ayaneo machines have input lag problem in previous android device?

olive dawn
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noone ever tested

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but there is always some kind of input lag

frank ingot
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Check the release of trigger and count how long it takes to boost

olive dawn
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But slowmo'd gif without knowing how much slowed it was means the counting won't say much

mild fulcrum
tropic frost
mild fulcrum
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Omnissiah be praised

runic ingot
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Surface Duo 1 and 2 has been DS king for a long while now. This could dethrone it

olive dawn
tropic widget
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Welp. GG. Bye pocket DS 😆

granite jungle
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RIP POCKET DS!

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AYN WINS THIS ONE!

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Btw

tropic frost
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OH GOD DAMN IT

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I can afford both...

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I can have both

tropic widget
tropic frost
spice barn
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AYN was waiting to snipe Ayaneo lmao

tropic widget
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I have no good argument there

tropic widget
fervent night
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Or maybe I’ll get my first AYN product

tropic widget
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Only real failure was support of the Loki. But I feel like they just decided x86 wasn't for them

fervent night
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That device had low key support

tropic widget
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Hahaha

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It just has spicy pillows which they replaced with spicy pillows that they eventually stopped stocking

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I have one sitting here sans battery

fervent night
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I can’t imagine how Ayaneo must feel

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Prolly the best igg campaign they’ve had, now will have the most cancellations

tender kraken
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If Thor comes in with a SD8 Gen 3 it's going to be rough for the Pocket DS.

tropic widget
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It's gotta suck. Lol

tropic frost
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Does the Thor look smaller than the Pocket DS? Something closer to original 3DS XL size would be a win

olive dawn
tropic frost
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Tempting

mild fulcrum
tropic frost
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Jian-Yang works for Ayn now

mild fulcrum
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You know what, I’ve got 60 days to canx my Ayaneo pre-order. I’m gonna hodl.

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Let’s see what Ayn does. At least I know what Ayn’s quality is, I have an Odin 2 and have been fairly pleased with it.

daring musk
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Sensible choice

mild fulcrum
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Even though I haven’t used it a lot lately

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Let’s keep our powder dry. Either way, this is a win-win. We’re all eating real good, lads.

fervent night
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maybe 5.5" oled on top instead of 7?

mild fulcrum
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Given that Ayn and Retroid share the same parent company (Moorechip?), the Thor could be using the 5.5” OLED display from the RP5/F2 for the top and the Mini/Classic display for the bottom

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That would be excellent IMO

tropic widget
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That's the bet

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Think it's probably most likely

fervent night
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need to sell my rp5/flip2 asap

tropic widget
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It's either that or Odin portal screen. Which is possible. But not really pocketable

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Single screen so last month

fervent night
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though do love my dmg and classic

tropic frost
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I just feel bad for any gonk that bought a one x sugar

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No wait they willingly bought a one x sugar, that's on them

fervent night
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maybe the thor is basically rp5mini+rds+newer faster snapdragon

solid tundra
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exactly. Too soon to cancel on this as this is really ambitious for both Aya and AYN, especially the latter

runic ingot
solar grove
tropic frost
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Just buy both cowards!

solid tundra
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except, ya know.... Ayn hasn't released a flip device yet, so we cant even say anything yet @runic ingot 😛 this is their first

daring musk
runic ingot
tropic frost
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(Redacted)

agile surge
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don't cancel until you hear specs for the Thor

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it might not be what you want

solid tundra
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good news is we now have two options 😄 better for us

fervent night
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lol people have 60 days to cancel. It will be ayaneo’s largest cancellation number by the end of the campaign

tender kraken
agile surge
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but size wise the Thor might be a smaller handheld with smaller screens

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if that's the case the Pocket DS will be better for folks that want bigger

tender kraken
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Fair. The metal body too if it feels good to hold.

tropic widget
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What or does is kill the pocket DS for me but make the 1s DS more interesting haha

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Forever shillin

solid tundra
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The only place that guy belongs would be on one of those execution videos

daring musk
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So its not futureproof then if you'll have to rely on someone making an adapter 🤔

tropic frost
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Dna duo is half the price of the base pocket ds. Utter lunacy

olive dawn
runic ingot
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I think DNA Duo was like $150 when I had first preordered it with the 30% discount.. but yeah, cancelled that a long time back. Too many delays

tropic frost
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They didnt send one to Russ for review. It doesn't exist to me

tropic widget
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Yeah. What a wild pitch. It's not even comparable to anything but the PDS imo

silver heath
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I’m gonna be much picker since I really want that 165hz 7” OLED since it’s replacing my Odin 2 Portal, so if the Thor doesn’t do that then I’m good.

solid tundra
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and good news for those who now have a choice 😄

silver heath
solid tundra
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it's far too soon for people to immediately hatefuck this device without full details, it's entertaining 😄

silver heath
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Honestly, if the Thor does have the 60hz 5.5”, then the only reason I’d get it is to replace my Pocket Ace and both the RP5 and Flip2 (plus I wouldn’t need to get the Retroid DS anymore). So I’d still end up getting the Pocket DS anyways (mainly since Ayn devices do still stay at a really good price).

silver heath
solid tundra
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I never said you were, all good :3

robust basin
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ayn has the 7 inch oled screen so they could very well use it

silver heath
fervent night
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odin 3 = 7" oled
thor = 5.5" oled + 3.92" oled
?

robust basin
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the problem is

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this does not look like a 1:1 screen on the bottom

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atomic lion
robust basin
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i agree

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o2 portal is just a little too large for me and creeps into x86 territory

tropic widget
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Yeah. I'm sure they'll do the normal staggered release of mini, portal, etc.

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The rebuy rate from each model to the next seems pretty high. Lol

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Which is ok. They're all solid devices

silver heath
mild crystal
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i'm really honestly just waiting until I get sweet spot of 5" portable

silver heath
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But yeah, this is also wider than what 31:27 should be, arguably more than even 4:3.

robust basin
mild crystal
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it's oled right?

silver heath
wicked finch
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It could be that 3:2 panel yea

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That's not oled though

fervent night
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inferior lcd?

robust basin
atomic lion
mild crystal
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mortgage screen perhaps

opal hazel
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I will literally shit my pants if its SD 8 Elite

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On the AYN Thor that is

tropic widget
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I highly doubt we see that. I mean I'd take it but...

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Slightly scared it would melt into my lap too

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Or it's really a 10" screen to accommodate cooling in the base 😆

olive dawn
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hope not

proven void
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Honestly im most interested in finding out which is the smaller between the two

tulip fox
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Looking at that usb port the Ayn is almost certainly smaller

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Definitely looks thinner

olive dawn
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Thor is 16,5 UBScs

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so about 40mm shorter than pocket ds

proven void
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ooooh

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well, as more info comes about i may have to cancel my ds for that thor lol

tight cape
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The issue is, these devices are going to live and die by the software. And how good the two screen are used.

olive dawn
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perosnally for android dualscreen

tulip fox
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Yeah indeed. Ayaneo had obviously put a lot of thought into the software

olive dawn
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i only really need nds/3ds emulators to work

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and they alread do

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but yeah for people who intend to do more

proven void
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that's true too

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definitely interesting times we're finally getting in

slender flame
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have there been any recent videos with 3ds gameplay with touchscreen use on the bottom?

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if the ayn bottom screen is oled im canceling

tight cape
olive dawn
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i have other deices that do that comfier 😄

opal hazel
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Maybe SD 8 gen 3 ?

olive dawn
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tbh personalyl i would be fine with just sd8g2

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but who knows

tropic widget
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Hope for sd8g2. I'm guessing g3 tho

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To be fair. G3 and sd8g2 might be comparable when it comes down to final price anyway

tender kraken
tropic widget
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Good enough to do most of what you want. We've basically caught up with emulation at this point

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Now Linux support would be a loss til someone figures it out tho

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But if the rp6 is supposedly moving to g series, probably g2. I'd imagine we'll see a sweep across many devices

mild crystal
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the only ayaneo device i care about now is the ayaneo phone

tropic widget
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Slightly interested in the konkr x86 as a mini steam deck. But not if they slam an hx370 in it and charge $300 more

tight cape
tulip fox
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I want 600ppi Symphony of the Night

rigid elbow
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Didn't age well 😅

static marten
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ok who wants my #5xx order

tropic frost
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Pfft get in line peasant low #1XX order here

static marten
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my order number doesn't even matter i got the 2nd cheapest tier

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gray and yellow are shipping first bc ayaneo remains p2w

quasi bay
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Glad I wrong though

tropic frost
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Have we all cancelled yet? You guys should all cancel so my order comes quicker

polar jacinth
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My order will remain in till I know more info. The only thing that sways me is Aya Neos lack of support. They move onto the next thing so fast. Odin 2 still getting updates gives me hope for the thor

limpid wigeon
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get both 😏

fervent night
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i guess theres no reason for me to be in this chat anymore lol

finite quest
daring musk
finite quest
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Not trying to trash on AYN btw, I love my O2M

daring musk
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Oh I know 😊

rigid elbow
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It's easy to sell early supporter stuff here

vestal dawn
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I guess my bank rejecting my 17 attempts was hinting me at the Thor.

tulip fox
weary spire
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Don't really matter what cid you got, retro shops first regardless. Im probably second or third batch, i was asleep when orders went live because i forgot they went up during the stream

limpid wigeon
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where's the free mug on preorder

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it's gonna be my first ayaneo igg purchase and no mug???

silver heath
tender kraken
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I opened it as soon as I got the email and I'm not in the double digits. That's awesome.

silver heath
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Now I’m stuck with #11xx.

rigid elbow
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A month after they start shipping no one will care

tender kraken
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I didn't even know that was a thing. This is my first ever order like this though.

vestal dawn
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Most of the time your order number doesn't really matter. They're not usually shipping out units one by one as they're made.
Especially for pre-order situations like this, they'll bundle up orders into batches and ship them bulk by country/state depending.

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Early bird savings are basically them passing on bulk shipping savings to the consumer to look good without losing anything themselves.

slender flame
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Double OLED screen confirmed on the Thor. Sorry ayaneo, cancelled

static marten
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I might be there with you soon as i see a white Thor

mild crystal
silver heath
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I’m sticking with this, at least until I know the hinge on the Thor is good. Now that I’ve already put the effort into ordering it, I don’t see much reason to not get it.

golden rain
mild crystal
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no hate to the people that like it or whatever but i really hope we do not get a GC colorway of any kind

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so overdone and just takes up a colorway slot that could be something actually cool

static marten
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at least we can expect the colors won't be paywalled

finite quest
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We won’t know about hinge reliability for either company until probably months after release

mild crystal
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we won't know anything about the hinge reliability of ayn because they are definitely a different and distinct company from retroid and are not related in any way

silver heath
weary spire
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I mean, ayas hing is 1 to 1 the same as the flip 1s so as long as those dont develop issues were good. Og flip ds was also pretty reliable.

golden rain
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I hope the ayn thor's hinges work well

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that said I'd easily pay 50-100 more for the peace of mind of the pocket ds hinge not breaking

finite quest
silver heath
finite quest
pine spoke
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Isn't the hinge issue more to do with the plastic not holding up than the mechanism itself? PS I have no idea how any of that works

atomic lion
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Does this have any extra remappable buttons? Or the Xbox/steam menu button?

weary spire
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It has 2 next to the bumpers.

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It might have an xbox home button but im not sure where. Its been in recent devices but it might have been removed in favor of the screen swap/disable button

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Start select on left,
Quick panel and home on the right.

Home button can be remapped. Also built in software lets you add functions to hold. For any of the extra buttons.

141.png
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Default the extra right shoulder button is back and the left one is recent apps

static marten
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watched that same video again and yea... i cancelled my 5xx black model.
Pocket DS is just too large

pseudo grail
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Yeah I don't think the ayn thor and the pocket ds are gonna be in competition with each otber simply because the thor is aiming to be 3ds xl sized which is pocketable for most people while the pocket ds is aiming to be switch sized

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different use cases

weary spire
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Yeah, they are similar, which you want comes down mostly to size. Im getting both because i can use both.

pseudo grail
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now you can do local coop super mario bros 2 with your friend of choice 😃

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upscaled on an oled screen

weary spire
atomic lion
weary spire
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Pocket ds will be the at home lazing about on the weekends playing for a few hours at a time device.

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They work for me, just have to unbind them from the android functions. Since most apps dont block back and recents.

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I know i got them working on my S at one point in retro arch

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Had it for quick save and quickload

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Ended up reverting it tho since i didnt emulate enough for back to be less useful.

atomic lion
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The back buttons on Odin 2 and steam deck are very useful for hotkeys, especially when acting as the pressure modifier button for aethersx2/pcsx2. Helps to toggle/switch pressure for the buttons without taking hands off the usual controls.

limpid wigeon
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hold for a dual screen handheld with special digitizer + active stylus + slot for stylus

mild crystal
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(forever)

solid moss
solid tundra
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I love the extra buttons

solid moss
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I'd settle for just two lol. One to use with fast forward, and one for some other function I feel like I'd need. Sometimes rewind for some games, maybe just toggle fast forward.

tropic frost
mild fulcrum
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Honestly, solid CPU picks. Both are known quantities, both have solid driver support.

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Might have to reconsider my Pocket DS pre-order. For now we hold.

robust anvil
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Nice specs, now just waiting for build material and price. I hope it's metal, even if it's just the top like Aya's.

proven void
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it's just nice QoL

mild fulcrum
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Ayn's using dual OLEDs too

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6" FHD 120 Hz OLED primary, 3.92" 60hz OLED secondary. Of course both are gonna operate at 60Hz when both are on, since it's Android. But, dual OLED vs one OLED one LCD

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6" vs 7" on the primary, so just depends on what's important to you. My Odin 2 is 6" and it's optimal for me, I can't do smaller than 5.5-6"

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5.5" is solid, but 6-7" is better

gritty steeple
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The bottom OLED screen isn't really a selling point tbh. Most 3DS games only use the bottom screen to display mostly static UI. It's like asking the screen to be burned in...

proven void
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I've never had to deal with oled burn in on anything i've had with an oled screen but that is a point i didn't think to consider

runic ingot
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Surprised it wasn’t the 5.5” 60hz primary on Thor. 6” is serviceable… but 7” is better if streaming and that is my use case. So I will hold on to Aya

silver heath
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It’s about 3.7” for 4:3, so a good bit smaller than 5”. OLED is still a pretty good benefit in of itself, but I’m already fine with the OLED/IPS combo.

mild fulcrum
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But pocketability tho…

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I’m torn

mild fulcrum
ivory carbon
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the main difference is the size and weight between them

mild fulcrum
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We gotta zoom out and recognize we’re suffering from success here. We’re gonna be eating good no matter what.

ivory carbon
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540g is very heavy for a handheld that you want to play for more than 30min

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i love when aya and ayn battle for our pockets

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we win

tender kraken
# mild fulcrum But pocketability tho…

Do you often bring your handheld places in your pocket? I know people bring that up but most often I use mine at home with an exception being for when I'm waiting for an oil change or something similar.

olive dawn
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i tried soni rush DS

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yesterday

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and the discoloration was super annoying

mild fulcrum
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I have an old Maxpedition Fatboy S-type that I use for all my EDC stuff, and an Osprey fanny pack as well

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When I’m out and about I usually carry my Flip 2 or Switch Lite with me

proven void
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respect
i cant get comfortable heading out with a bag on me that isn't a backpack

mild fulcrum
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Depending on my needs for the day I’ll use either bag

runic ingot
runic ingot
silver heath
silver heath
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Like, does it have a proper UI built in for controlling stuff like that?

olive dawn
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ooh dont even remind me that ayaspace app ... still have ptsd from using it on Micro

silver heath
olive dawn
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oh thats the other side .... all the settings spread out in muliple places

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kinda fear of their x86 app .. looking at the one guy who already got 1s mentioning it how buggy it is

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  • all the places aya menioned in the steam as "in development" . "will release later"
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thats all big red signs to me

runic ingot
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There is no Ayn or other Android software out there that has TDP control though, right? I thought Aya was the only one that offered this, which is pretty neat to use IMO

olive dawn
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i dont think i ever saw anyone trying to play with tdp o android .... beyond the usual "silent, normla. perf" modes

atomic lion
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You don't really need them on Android if the performance presets work well

runic ingot
olive dawn
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iirc it has the usual three modes

runic ingot
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Then that’s not bad at all. Yeah tdp control is not something I think many care for. Presets is what I was thinking, which I thought was only offered for Aya but cool to see it’s also on Ayn and possibly also the retroids

silver heath
daring musk
olive dawn
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and that was dreadfull on Micro

silver heath
runic ingot
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They’ve paid round trip shipping for both RMA. Have delivered an extra battery and also a free 2 in 1 case for the trouble.

silver heath
olive dawn
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and no nee to make this all abotu some kind of brand wars

Ultimately all i care is about the device fitting in my specific usecase

silver heath
runic ingot
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Bought it second hand and as long as order # was provided, they are good

silver heath
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I’ve never heard of any of the other companies sending an extra battery for the event where your current one goes bad.

runic ingot
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Already past 1 yr warranty but still they continue to troubleshoot and take it in

olive dawn
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and ever single one of these companies in this segment have hisory of both bad support, hw and sw issues

runic ingot
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This is not a huge knock at Ayn but I had a bad taste from them when I filed a bug ticket. They just said they don’t support the device

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For a basic feature that was suppose to work

olive dawn
silver heath
runic ingot
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Ya they sent me a battery and told me to do it myself. Was pretty easy to do. The device didn’t end up having a depleted capacity left like I thought, it’s a deeper issue so now I have two 100% capacity batteries. Again, all free of charge. Aya has been good to me

runic ingot
silver heath
runic ingot
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You can see the signal in OSD shows 1080p @ 120hz which is what I set it to within Android settings for external display..

But content only renders at 60hz

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This is an ongoing issue that is not talked about enough. Plagued for O2 and O2 Mini. Confirmed that Portal does 120hz but can’t do 144 even though it shows as supported. External display content runs at in-built display refresh rate.. even when off

frank ingot
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one out of topic question, has anyone here with experience buying ayaneo product from indiegogo ?

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let's say, i am way further behind the shipment list.

If shipping starts, and maybe new product release, can i still cancel the order and receive my refund when my orders are still not yet fulfill/shipped out?

wicked finch
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Yea you can, just need to message them on the igg page or send them an email

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They ship the expensive models first

tender kraken
rigid elbow
rigid elbow
tender kraken
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First time ordering from them. Other than the system specific info I hadnt looked into anthing else.

static marten
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they do it to incentivize upgrades and its working bc a bunch of users are supposedly trying to upgraded according to the comments ayaneo is the king of manufactured FOMO

rigid elbow
fervent night
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is it possible that Arthur predicted Ayn's playbook, and has a surprise announcement against the Thor?

opal hazel
tropic frost
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Like what? Developing products takes a long ass time.

fervent night
opal hazel
tropic frost
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That just shows you dont have faith in your product more than anything.

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The only option is the return of the circle pad pro

fervent night
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free labubu

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comes with ltd edition ayaneo labubu

quasi bay
robust basin
fervent night
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Konkr's Bad Launch Day

gritty steeple
# fervent night surprise price drop lol

The Pocket DS is already very well priced though (for the Early Bird pricing). It's just slightly more expensive than the Ayn Odin 2 Portal while having 2 screens.

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The base Odin 2 Portal is $329, or $341 with the official case. While the base Pocket DS is $399 with a case included (assuming that you preordered during the first week)

tropic widget
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Yeah. Nothing wrong with the pricing imo

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Pretty reasonable for Ayaneo

tropic frost
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I think hes doing ok!

olive dawn
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Lol

tropic widget
olive dawn
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The PRest of PR statements

tropic widget
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Can see the sweat beading off the post

patent sleet
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First dual screen Android is just wrong

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They keep saying that when onexsugar exists

tropic widget
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I mean regardless. They must have moles in the company if ayn "copied" them

patent sleet
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I mean all these companies are based in Shenzhen. The information must be very leaky among them

tropic widget
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Guaranteed they both knew the other was making one

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For sure

patent sleet
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The suppliers will leak info

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If not the employees themselves

olive dawn
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I mean people have been requesting dualscreens for months

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Ever since the emulators added such feature

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A d people started Messi g around with it

tropic widget
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Just funny to be talking like his is already shipped

olive dawn
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And I have seen people sharing their dual screen experiemnts in every single discord of these companies

tropic widget
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Short of having two screens and being android there's not much even close design wise going on

tropic frost
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Its just fun to sow chaos

tropic widget
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Like Ayn could have copied the flip DS in some way

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Haha. I know. He posts stuff like that often. It's just kinda silly

olive dawn
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Was just matter of time ultimately

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Especially given just simple retroid addon boosted the dualscreen developed of emulators too

tropic widget
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It's like DNA saying Retroid copied his attachment. As if other home made ones didn't exist in the wild, or it was some insane concept

atomic lion
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their ego helps them to forget onexsugar exist

tropic widget
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Haha. Is pretty funny

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Feel like retroids drop had them all pushing dates forward

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Course we'll never know the actual impact

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It is kinda funny both OneXSugar and Ayaneo are using IGG as well. Like the one x clearly launched first. And Ayaneo's def has first ever in the title

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frank ingot
daring musk
patent sleet
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Given enough descriptors any thing can be the first

tropic frost
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So prices for ayn thor dropped

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I feel bad for Arthur

gloomy bison
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Oh boy...

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gritty steeple
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That's great price for anyone looking for a smaller device (compared to the Pocket DS) or a new handheld in general
That's pretty much the same price as the Odin 2 but with more functionalities

gloomy bison
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I'll still probably get both the Thor and Pocket DS to see which one I like more

mild fulcrum
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Yikes on trikes. Those prices are great.

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I remain hodling on my pre-order. For now.

tropic frost
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Going to pre-order both and then cancel whichever once reviews come out

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The smaller more ds like form factor is more appealing to me but if its as thick as the flip 2 then idk

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Ive a new 3ds xl with some cover plates that comes out to the thickness of the thor measured at its thinnest part and its pocketable but those triggers are going to be an issue

kind bobcat
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Watch this fucking destroy the pocket ds in sales

tropic frost
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Konkr DS going to be real interesting lol

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"ITS 50 BUCKS WERE TAKING A LOSS BUT FAK U AYN!"

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Honestly though we've two fantastically priced options

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One is just stupid good

limpid wigeon
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does ayaneo give a free bag?

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wondering if i need to add the accessories like the bag/screen protector or they give em like some previous preorders

atomic lion
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someone mention first week order come with 1 for the pocket ds

silver heath
# gloomy bison Oh boy...

Welp, I already just payed for the upgrade from 8GB to 16GB (and more importantly from 128Gb to 512GB), so I’m definitely not canceling by this point. But hey, at these prices I could easily afford to get this without early bird later down the line.

solid tundra
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Pocket DS still has some advantages i think. People are being too quick to just assume the Thor is going to be a miracle worker 😄

hoary zinc
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I'll cancel my Pocket DS order when I see the Thor in someone's hands. Not canceling based on a render.

runic ingot
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I wouldn’t pocket either device so the choice is clear for me to go with the bigger screens

solid tundra
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yeah i don't pocket my devices, esp not these

olive dawn
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then pocket ds might fit your needs better

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My biggerst personal main gripes of pocket ds was - too big including ergobumps , lcd+oled and too strong for my needs

runic ingot
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Only device size class I’ll pocket is a micro — 28xx, mini v4, etc.

Not even a Brick / MM+

Tried N3DS non-xl and still too noticeable

olive dawn
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and you can look at my posts that i hav been saying it even before Ayn teased things ... that my ideal would be "pocket DS Lite with optional grip , cheaper soc and "3ds-like size"

runic ingot
olive dawn
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but not sure

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need to see all colours first as well as Odin 3 details

olive dawn
runic ingot
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The more I think about it, even not sure if Pocket DS will completely replace my Duo 2.

I mean, it can because it has more power and bigger displays but the Duo 2 has two OLED 5.8” 90hz displays in 4:3… it’s already perfect for 3x 3DS integer scaling and 8x DS. I can comfortably play GC at 1-2x and most of PS2 as well. Cemu / WiiU is the weird one that just doesn’t support dual screens last I tested.. but I see there is a new beta build I can try

hoary zinc
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The bigger chip will be nice to brute force more things like HD textures, but yeah the Duo already handles most of that stuff quite well. Just wish there was more internal storage on the Duo, that 256gb goes quick

olive dawn
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doesnt Duo has ppretty bad battery life?

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sadly locally the usable are priced similarly as Flip 1s hx3700 and whas priced lower are in horrible state

runic ingot
runic ingot
# olive dawn doesnt Duo has ppretty bad battery life?

Yeah, batteries are starting to degrade as its been near 5 years for Duo 1 and 4 for Duo 2

I can’t help but love the high res big 4:3 displays of the device though. What I really like is that it can be folded completely back to lone screen mode. It’s also pocketable and great for e-reading, note taking, etc. also has a sim card slot haha

hoary zinc
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GOTX helps keep a pretty tight focus on the games I play these days, so choice paralysis isn't much of an issue anymore. I only use mine for DS and 3DS, and the dedicated libraries mostly fit. Just want a bit more.

olive dawn
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i found myself that i play and finish more things this way

mild fulcrum
tropic widget
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Forreal tho. Cargo shorts are the real mobile gamers companion

tropic frost
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Tell us youre a dad without telling us youre a dad

tropic widget
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One of mankind's creations where I really give zero shits about whether they're in or out of style. They're just practical as shit 😆

tropic frost
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Wearing shorts in December because its still above freezing baby!

tropic widget
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Haha. My SO posted me shoveling snow in them almost a decade ago. Still do 😆

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But yeah. Once responsibilities go up, the utility is unparalleled

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Guess it's like people always assuming you'll be carrying a sling or something. My sling is on both sides of my shorts thank you

frank ingot
runic ingot
tropic widget
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Yeah. It's why handhelds having more room and using connectors that aren't some custom ribbon is the best

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Depressed there's no Loki battery replacements. It just sits there now

mild fulcrum
toxic radish
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I know Thor has took a lot of the hype from this. But I was thinking this is the ultimate multi functional streamer device for PC and PS5 streaming. Imagine playing Spiderman 2 and grind8ng side missions while using 2nd screen to watch a YouTube podcast. Or playing a game while using a guide on the bottom screen. This all can be done on a Thor but a 6inch screen for current gen games is too small. I'd say 6 inch is fine for classic games though but for current gen games you would need a 7inch screen minimum

runic ingot
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Streaming AAA games on the 7" is minimum for me. In a world where people are using 8" displays now and bigger, I find 7" like rog ally / switch oled to be my baseline. I've tried streaming to Pocket S 6".. It's a bit too small to enjoy all the details

silver heath
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Oh nice, this thing’s bottom screen is already gonna be bigger than the Ace for GBA in non-integer, and be the exact same size with integer scaling.

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proven void
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huge

runic ingot
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I think I'll be mostly playing all my emulation on the bottom display and having viewing content on the top.. since both displays on run at 60hz anyway

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Switch/PSP/widescreen hacks and PC stuff on the top ofc

silver heath
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Can’t think of a reason to do “bottom screen only” currently, but it would definitely be a great option if you ever want to make a $400+ Gameboy Macro. /s

runic ingot
silver heath
silver heath
runic ingot
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Ah yeah those are nice to play with. I like my retro games looking retro

ionic night
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Is there a size comparison between the Thor and Pocket DS?

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Wonder how much bigger it is tbh

daring musk
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Thor is blue and Pocket DS is green

ionic night
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Woah

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What is Yellow and Red?

daring musk
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Yellow is 3DS and red is 3DS xl

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Here's just Thor and the Pocket DS

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There's a key at the top of the images to tell you which colour is for what device as well

limpid wigeon
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but why male models?

tropic widget
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Just ended up refunding. Even if I don't go the Thor route I wanna wait a bit longer to see how things shake out (but lets me honest, I'll probably get a Thor 😆)

tropic widget
# daring musk

Did you use the dimension numbers or does that include the trigger bumps?

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For the Thor specifically

daring musk
tropic widget
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Ah yeah. I think the graphic like kinda ignores those. Which is silly

daring musk
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It still gives a good idea of the overall footprint

tropic widget
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Yeah. Was looking back. Probably just generalized info graphic looks

errant dirge
tropic frost
pseudo grail
tropic frost
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I didnt get one

errant dirge
tropic frost
errant dirge
tropic frost
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Yeah they're decent not the best option out there but they're small

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Im not an audiophile tho

runic ingot
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Only 22 left for the 16/512 config

ionic night
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Yeah...

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I'm debating at the moment

runic ingot
ionic night
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Welllllllllllll

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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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58 days left

runic ingot
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plenty of time to think until order finalizes

golden rain
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It's been 2 days lol

ionic night
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Yeah I just realized lol

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Been a busy week, time seems to be moving faster then it is.

frank ingot
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why not just secure a order now

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wait until october when more info is release

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then decide that time

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the reason why you're in dilemma or hesitating, is because you think Maybe Thor is a better device for your usage, but you still hesitate because you need more information.

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so place a order on pocket DS

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wait until 1st week of October, decide that time after you learn more information.

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its not like the the money is gone when you pre-order, you can get back the money anyway.

ionic night
runic ingot
ionic night
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Lol that gave me a heartattack for a sec

golden rain
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yea same lol

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Hong Kong dollars

runic ingot
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haha same

fervent night
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or gets the most use

tropic frost
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Flip 2

lunar ingot
# tropic frost Flip 2

I use my gpd win mini all the time ever since i decided to make it a dual boot bazzite machine

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And that's actually a really good size reference for the pocket ds. the pocket ds is a tiny bit wider and a tiny bit smaller vertically but its almost the same size

tropic frost
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It was When Mini when it was coming out but now its Was Mini

tropic frost
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Partial to smaller

lunar ingot
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I'm so torn right now

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I need russ to get both devices in-hand asap

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I'm a little worried about those two pressure points on the screen of the thor and ayn's unproven hinge history

ionic night
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^

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Need to hands on review

slender flame
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buy both, sell the one you like less here

runic ingot
# slender flame buy both, sell the one you like less here

I feel like there will be more Thor offerings than Pocket DS on used marketplace, just due to their being a much bigger quantity of them and also Ayn hype train.

Buy Pocket DS now, buy Thor at a further discount used if not happy with Pocket DS or itching to try the other.

slender flame
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if you do it fast enough it works out. more ayn products go on sale here, but more people are interested in them. less ayaneo products are for sale, but the potential market is much smaller

gritty steeple
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The only reason for that is because most Ayaneo products are overpriced, not because they are undesirable

pseudo grail
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ayaneo usually relies on fomo to get people to buy

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doesn't seem to be the case for ayn

tropic frost
ionic night
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Thanks to the TACO

tropic frost
#

Burritos are better

worthy estuary
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if it's postponed 3+ months then I will probably buy the pocket DS, as (hopefully) they will ship before the deadline

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But I really wanted a handheld with the 8gen3/8elite. I feel that we will need the power for ps3 emulation

ionic night
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Here yah go

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Aug 11 was when it happened

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China Tariff deadline extended again

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If he didn't we would have seen the cost jump up already on Thursday last week.

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So now we're looking at mid November

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Although that being said costs are already going up

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PS5 for example is going up $50 I think?

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Oh yeah $50 more starting today lol

tender kraken
finite quest
tender kraken
worthy estuary
# ionic night Here yah go

thx mate, this is great news for me. Now I have to decide between the konkr/odin3 with newer chipsets or the pocket DS with the cool formfactor

weary spire
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Definitely wait for the chipset reveal on the odin3.

The added gpu performance on the g3x gen 3 is neat. But its also a 20w chip compared to the 8 gen 3 capping out at 13ish watts.

If the odin 3 is stock 8 gen 3 id reccomend that over the konker. If they are both g3x then probably still odin but i guess there is some wiggle room, Odin would have a oled screen and probably a bigger battery. While konker is mostly just better software.

tight cape
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I've just checked and the surface duo 2 had dual 90hz screens. So we know there is away to get higher refresh on both screens at least.

weary spire
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60 isnt the issue.

Its the 2 seperate refresh rates that are the issue.

If aya had the duo panel then both screens would be locked to 90 while on. If we had a 120hz bottom screen then itd be locked to 120.

Android just doesnt like the displays being different. An unfortunate side effect on the OS being built entirely around a single touchscreen display.

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Luckily linux builds shouldnt have this issue. And there may be a workaround in android but no garentees.

tight cape
weary spire
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Thats also why not every device gets an oled panel. They just arent available in the size they want to use. Or lack the color accuracy aya targets.

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If there was a 5in 4:3 120hz panel aya would have used it, same if there was a 5in oled.

tight cape
rigid elbow
runic ingot
tropic widget
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It is kinda silly they went with LCD and then managed to find one that's 60hz

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Like there's tons made for the non mobile phone realm as well. Had to be some that at least hit 90

silver heath
rigid elbow
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I don't mind. At least they were up front about it. Retroid would claim some stupid excuse then finally be honest 6 months after release 🤣

silver heath
# tight cape That makes no sense why they wouldn't match the screens at 120 each. And then bo...

It’s a limitation of the Android software and unfortunately Anbernic isn’t sharing their 4.7” 120hz 1280x960 screen, so AYANEO’s limited to either a much smaller screen or the one they do have. They also can’t have the bottom screen pretend to be 120hz because last I remembered, bad things happen when you try to do something like that since the device will also think “it needs more power for 120hz, let’s give it more”.

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But I will say I’m not sure if the limitation is handled on the software end or hardware end, so if it’s just software, they could potentially have a toggle that effectively sends a root command for the top screen to run in 120hz purely in the hardware while also then having it run software at 60fps to sync with the bottom screen, meaning we’d get the benefit of reduced input latency from having a 120hz top screen in dual screen mode (it wouldn’t let you do stuff that requires software to be at 120fps like bfi, but it would still make it so people have an option for minimizing input latency at the cost of using extra power).

proven void
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Sounds tough

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Do a lot of you like to use BFI?

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I tried it for gba and i think i could kinda notice a difference but it wasn't like playing a game with an actual 120hz mode on my pc like Blue Revolver

ionic night
wise merlin
wicked finch
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Its nice for lcd

proven void
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Makes sense

silver heath
#

Ooh, also.
@plain turret Are there any chances that whatever you’re cooking with the Thor would also work with the Pocket DS? Like, assuming they send you a dev unit, or at the very least are willing to try implementing whatever fix you have into the firmware themselves as an update?

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plain turret
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either way I'm placing an order for the Thor and will try that out. although I am welcome to dev units

mild fulcrum
signal latch
# ionic night Pretty sure that is only for China specifically

Just for China and just for the "reciprocal tarrifs". The 30% continues to be there. Ending de minimis for all countries means they won't be able to use that to by-pass by shipping through other countries as well. So unless they find a new loophole the US people will likely see tariffs on everything going forward. They will probably still devalue and/or route from countries with lower tarrifs to minimize it.

tender kraken
ionic night
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Hmmm I wonder if it would be that simple.

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Feel like AYN would be shouting at the rooftops if that was the case.

rigid elbow
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Yeah. Nothing on their discord or it's all anyone would be talking about

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And Nicole was recently on there talking about the messed up tech sheet

weary spire
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It also might not even be a screenshot. It could just be a mockup. Theres still a month till its in anyones hands sonthey might still be workingnon the software.

rigid elbow
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It's an image. Looks like a render. Not saying it's a screenshot. I could go find it but I'm lazy lol

tender kraken
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That's it. That's the full image.

rigid elbow
# tender kraken

There's an image, render of that, with the screen on. Doesn't mean they actually fixed it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

tender kraken
rigid elbow
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It would be cool but being a limitation in android if there's a fix I doubt ayn is finding it this fast. If ever. We can hope though. It really isn't a huge deal to me. Personally. I won't be using the thor for streaming. And if I stream on the pocket ds I don't need the lower screen on while doing it.

tender kraken
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Yep, I'm in the same boat. I haven't setup apollo or any other streaming software yet so I might just to test it out and see if I like it but the limitation won't bother me. I'll mainly be using it for retro stuff like any other handheld I've bought.

rigid elbow
#

It's super easy to do now days

weary spire
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Well one thing can be certain, if ayn figures it out then aya will implement it aswell. Thats one thing theyve excelled at with android the pocket s and evo on release are very different from today because of all the software features and improvements theyve made.

frank ingot
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I think this is a chip limitation rather than a software limitation

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How much bandwidth the one chip provides to the screen and what if second screen connected etc

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AYN can do it doesn’t really mean Ayaneo can do it as well.

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From Pocket DS pov, Arthur already explain nothing can be done due to limitation, but Arthur never get into details as to what and why and what limitation

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If AYN can do it, it’s mostly due to it is 8G2 or 865 and not G3X G2

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There’s a possibility for AYN, but not confirm at the moment

tight cape
tight cape
hollow edge
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i keep thinking about the evo vs portal when i think about this vs. the thor, what mattered to me most in the end was comfort and quietness of buttons, Aya really won me over with EVO and pocket s , they both truly are premium feeling and relatively quiet compared to the clicky clack of the retroid products, the thor looks like it would be the same to me, which has me really leaning toward the Pocket ds

olive dawn
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ayn buttons arent the same as retroid buttons though ... more closer to Odin ones ... so you are kinda deciding on wrong assumtions

ionic night
#

So I blanked out when I was making my pledge on Indiegogo. Make sure to use a card with no Foreign Transaction Fees lol.

limpid wigeon
#

they didn't accept amex so I used a card that did 😢

silver heath
olive dawn
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tbh no idea 😄

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my perception of loud / clacky buttons

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has only two levels

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louder and quiter than xbox gamepad
and all of these retro handhelds are in the quiter side of my perception

silver heath
hollow edge
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portal was super clacky., but good to know about the ace.

weary spire
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If any are limited by that, itd be the 865. But the g3x at its core is just an 8 gen 2, the gpu has just been tweaked to a different power curve to get more out of the overclock

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Hell the surfaces duo 2 is an 865 with 2 90hz panels that are give resolution than what we have on the bottom screen

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Really wish the would use the pocket s buttons as the standard for quietness, those are super silent.

frank ingot
#

thanks for the info

golden rain
weary spire
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Lol, no

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Silent doesnt mean mushy

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You can have tactile silent buttons which are the best.

golden rain
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It doesn't but it often does in this space

weary spire
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Nothing more annoying than constant clicking while playing a game.

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Ayas buttons feel great and are usually quieter than most.

golden rain
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I want to hear my clicks

silver heath
weary spire
#

Insanity.

golden rain
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Which one was it? The 35XX SP? Those felt perfect

silver heath
weary spire
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I havent used them but from other i trust, they arent as quiet as the s, but they are quieter than the 2 which is good. 2 isnt lound but they arent quiet either

golden rain
#

Total silent buttons are just unsatisfying

tropic widget
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And my ears to be honest

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But as long as it's not an outright click sound I can manage

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Rg477m shoulder buttons would probably break me

golden rain
#

I'm so ready for this

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Always wanted a New 2DSXL but bigger

tropic widget
#

Def bigger heh

tender kraken
# golden rain Always wanted a New 2DSXL but bigger

A lot of people talking about being able to put the Thor in pockets but man, I'm excited for the size of the Pocket DS. I get the argument of those people but when I use one of these devices outside of the house it's typically when I'm waiting for a while like at an oil change. I don't need something to throw in my pockets.

olive dawn
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yeah your usecase fit this better i guess

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its too humongous and weighty for mine

karmic cobalt
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I was fully team Thor. But sometimes while playing my Flip 2 I want a bigger screen and Pocket DS is definitely gonna feel a lot bigger than the Thor in that regards.

olive dawn
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i mean screen size its just inch of a difference

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and bottom screen is gonna be inventory/menu 95+% of the time 😄

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each to their own i guess 😄

karmic cobalt
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Yeah I just don't know if 6" over the 5.5" of the Flip 2 will feel significant enough.

golden rain
olive dawn
#

yeah and 150g in wiegh which is more significant to me than an inch of screen

but again YMMV

karmic cobalt
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Switch lite is 5.5" and Switch OLED is 7" that was a huge difference.

golden rain
#

6 vs 7

olive dawn
#
  • i do have 1S ordered too ... so i will see what will feel better 😄
golden rain
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I'll stick with the pocket ds preorder

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If the Thor doesn't have any issues in about 1-2 months after everyone gets them, I'll order that

silver heath
olive dawn
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lol

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but then where are all the buyers of TJD 101 if bigger screen goes brrr is the name of the game

silver heath
golden rain
#

I'd totally be onboard to buy a handheld with a 8.7 inch tablet screen

silver heath
#

But in all seriousness, I’m with you on the screen size not being all that big when it’s 6” vs 7”.

I just want the Pocket DS for the fact that it’s effectively a more portable Odin 2 Portal with a hinge design that’s proven to be at least more resilient than the Flip 2’s hinge design. The fact it’s likely significantly bigger than the Thor doesn’t matter much to me since I’d be carrying it in my travel bag anyways (something that my Odin 2 Portal couldn’t fit in since the controls made it too wide).

olive dawn
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yeah for me the bigger size is rather downside

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but i can see why its not for others

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and Thor basically hit the perfect spot i vented about to aya wanting "pocked DS Lite"

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but i am still keeping the Flip 1S

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cause for widowns i have other uses and dont need smaller size

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and ultimately makes zero sense to have both pocket DS and flip 1s as they are pretty much same "squared" size

silver heath
silver heath
olive dawn
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although i am kinda itching to ragecancel it over them shipping everything else but my sku 😄

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other side is that after experiencing aya android software on Micro .... i dont really trust them the DS stuff will work as they have shown 😄

on windows i am fine and have more options ... and even make SW of my own for my exact needs

rigid elbow
olive dawn
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i will say it like this

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for android DS i only need Azahar and MelonDS to work and they already do so i dont need more

tiny fulcrum
olive dawn
#

my experience of aya micro was that upon launching and connecting to the internet you had to open like 4 different "aya apps" to update and one of them even crashed .. twice

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and after trying some games where , mere touching the stick made it fly across the room

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i went nope , packed it back in and returned it the next day

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(i would take clean android over whatever the fcuk that was every time)

silver heath
# tiny fulcrum Just makes me more excited for the Thor, lol

Yup, the bottom screen for the Thor is also gonna be great for games. If not for the size of the displayed game (since it is smaller), then just for the fact that the LG Wing screen has outright proven to be great for games with stuff like the Retroid Pocket Mini V2, the RPClassic, and the AYANEO Pocket DMG.

olive dawn
#

but i guess not ideal for people that want to integer scale the dozen DS games that use bottom screen for action

tiny fulcrum
olive dawn
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but personally the discolor between LCD/OLED would bother me more that screens not beings aligned perfectly ... after trying sonic rush on RP5+ external lcd

silver heath
olive dawn
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but one thing the Micro confirmed ... that i need that screen in the mythical One35 kek

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and FLip 1s has even bigger 3:2 .. so really curious on gba on it chefskiss

silver heath
# olive dawn but personally the discolor between LCD/OLED would bother me more that screens n...

Eh, I’m not too worried on that for specifically just AYANEO since Ayn is also gonna have to tune the screens to match anyways, since it’s not an issue of “OLED vs IPS” but the fact that different screens just have different setups and need to be tuned to match properly.

So both Ayn and AYANEO are gonna have to either tune both of their screen saturation and contrast to match the top and bottom, or they’re gonna have to give us a way to adjust them ourselves.

olive dawn
#

even then black vs dark grey 😛

silver heath
olive dawn
#

that sounds awfull 😄

silver heath
olive dawn
#

i guess i have became screen snob ,,, but not screensize snob

silver heath
#

Although the fact a lot of the DS games I liked had most of the gameplay on the bottom screen anyways probably helped, since I also never cared much about how DS games look on 3DS.

olive dawn
#

anyway time to go to bed
i need to do 80manhours worth of work in 16 hours tomorrow #yaycrunchperiod

olive dawn
#

oh no ... hinge issue #1372202954148413460 message

tiny fulcrum
#

Oh god

lunar ingot
#

You know who makes a good hinge? GPD. Maybe I missed it but I don’t think I’ve heard of any hinge issues on the win mini and I certainly have never had a problem with mine in the two years I’ve had it. These companies should study that construction

runic ingot
#

Surface Duo has S tier hinge

silver heath
#

Like, if anyone else here has the Flip 1S and is reading this, could you also test the hinge to see if it’s the same as on that post?

runic ingot
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There’s also no video proof of this. Just screenshots of a distorted image that was resolved after a reboot

golden rain
#

So still a non issue

rigid elbow
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Everyone that went yellow or silver models should definitely cancel because of this. Also maybe a few people that went black 16/512 lol

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If you ordered a lesser spec model keep going with your order 😄

ionic night
rigid elbow
ionic night
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Ahh

slender flame
golden rain
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i went with the 12/256 model too

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eh i love oleds because they're usally good displays. that doesn't mean i don't like other non oled good displays

slender flame
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Only gaming device I still use that's not OLED is a legion go

rigid elbow
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I mainly just wanted extra internal space, I didn't need the 16 ram, but it's there

silver heath
rigid elbow
tender kraken
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I'm a nerd that can't wait to get this thing in my hands and found a video from Ayaneo showing off the Retro Gray model. I didn't realize that it has three shoulder buttons. on the right it's got RB, RT, and even with RB but a little further in, its got RC. Pretty cool to be able to FF or quick save/load without needing a hotkey.

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Maybe not news to some of you but I hadn't seen that before.

rigid elbow
weary spire
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If you want to use it for hotkeys you have to remap the key. By default they are set to universal back and recent apps. There might be a whitelist where you can change it only in certain apps, i havent really messed with the stock remapper much.

tropic widget
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Hopefully if there's 1s hinge issues it's fixed by pocket time

limpid wigeon
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I think most ayaneo stuff have a third shoulder button

tender kraken
weary spire
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Well the 1 issue we have seen looks more like a loose or bad ribbon cable than anything. Could even be a driver issue. If i had it id take it apart, unplug it and replug it in. My switch lite oled was doing the same thing in the past and it was just a loose connection.

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If we get more of the same then we can probably say its a hinge issue. But for now its not too worrying based on the picture.

slender flame
golden rain
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oh what

slender flame
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that clip with adventure island on the bottom screen, i saw the lightbleed on the lcd

golden rain
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this is cool
three finger swipe down to swap screens for apps

slender flame
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lightbleed...

golden rain
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wait

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no head phone jack

slender flame
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that was known

golden rain
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must've missed that

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honestly it doesn't look that big in this guys hands

tulip fox
# slender flame

That doesn’t look like light bleed (if you mean the grey bar to the left) just the contrast of the lcd showing a black bar versus the bezel

ionic night
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I just realize the joysticks look might small.

slender flame
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youre right perhaps lightbleed isnt the right term. but seeing the screen and it not blending into the bezel like with oled was the idea that pushed me towards the thor

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for a second i thought "hey this looks pretty good" then i hit this section and noped back out

golden rain
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you know

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i don't like bezels on the top screen

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the way the bezels aren't balanced is bothering me

tulip fox
golden rain
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top and bottom bezel of the top screen

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i just need to see more footage

daring musk
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The sound doesnt seem that great. Just like with the Evo. They need to fix that before its released.

weary spire
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But yeah thors screen needs the oled bonus of hiding the letterboxing since its an odd aspect ratio.

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How about the 8in oled panel from the legion go 2 with the 5.8in 4:3 90hz oled from the surface duo 2.

olive dawn
olive dawn
daring musk
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The sound comparison

olive dawn
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seems muffled compared to that phone

frank ingot
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Need to use my pc to listen

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My phone makes wide range audio sounds shit

solid tundra
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does sound muffled

plain turret
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not again

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they do this with all their devices, compromise the sound with those speakers

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the pocket micro really let me down in that regard

runic ingot
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Canceled my Pocket DS order 🥺

Just rolled credits on OOT3D on my Duo 2 and I just don’t see a reason for another DS handheld when I feel like I already have my endgame.

I’ll be of course keeping an eye on all the reviews and discussions, hope you all enjoy this sweet era of DS emu handhelds we have just set on!

near forge
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haven't learned from the EVO, I see

near forge
tropic widget
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That xiaomi is a banger

ionic night
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Not liking that at all

golden rain
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I'm pretty close to canceling ngl

ionic night
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Yeah that audio quality might have killed it for me

golden rain
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Little things are bothering me as I see more footage

ionic night
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Holding for now though

golden rain
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The thing I'm kinda waiting for is irl images of Thor running 3ds and ds

ionic night
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Also honestly the comments don't help either lol

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I know a bit of chinese and they're saying to wait for the AYN first xD

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Also shitting on Ayaneo customer service which is funny to me

fervent night
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When does pocket ds igg campaign end vs end of Thor preorder?

ionic night
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October I believe for both of them

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But Sept is when we should see the Thor in the hands of reviewers

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Which is why I preorder the Pocket DS

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I should be able to cancel if I like what I see on the Thor more

tender kraken
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Saw a comment that Aya is shipping by SKU and then by Order number. Does anyone know if your order number is the overall number or the number for the specific SKU you ordered?

polar jacinth
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At what time does he do the audio test in review?

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Sorry being lazy

proven void
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I believe the CID is an overall number

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Considering with past aya products I was passed up by numbers later than mine on other models that were manufactured first, whether cheaper or more expensive

daring musk
daring musk
polar jacinth
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Yeah thats pretty shocking but as expected for aya neo. Pretty much all my aya neo devices have terrible audio

agile surge
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don't know who of you is this but nice write up

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bottom LCD color is way more washed out

tropic widget
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Sounds about right

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I dunno. Mad lads trying to convince me it's a good pairing. Lol

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Could be they just got a bad panel but I'd have preferred dual LCD in all honesty

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It's like walking through best buy and looking at an OLED right next to an LCD

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Except it's for hours

golden rain
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In the same sentence he does say it's not too jarring

slender flame
agile surge
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if the LCDs are both good I could do dual LCDs

tropic widget
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Yeah. Just dunno if I could do it

olive dawn
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seems also doesnt fully close

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near forge
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odd but I see how it happened

tropic widget
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Looks like the gap on Thor will be bigger. Who knows if it'll matter

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Pocket DS will be thrown in cases for the most part anyway

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Probably less of a concern

golden rain
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Yea the Thor has a raised part in the middle

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So the gap will be bigger

tropic widget
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This does too. It's just a wider and shorter raised part. That said I think we're still relying on renders for the Thor. So who knows

agile surge
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the gpd XD had exactly the same raised part and gap

olive dawn
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it doesnt matter

agile surge
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complete non issue, you don't even think about it

olive dawn
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just funny to see it here after how certain aya fans ranted about thor and it being some wolrdending issue

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  • both windows flips seems to close fully ,,, so just kinda surprised me
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but i guess its to fit the 5" screen there

daring musk
slender flame
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real 3ds gap

olive dawn
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reminds me i still have accidentally ordered old 3ds ergo grip 😄

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cause i forgot mine is XL model 😄

tropic widget
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Yeah. I knew the old ones had it. It's less about risk of damage from pressure. And more about pocket dust

ocean turret
slender flame
river horizon
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same as the video a few scrolls above, just with subtitles

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tl:dw; - hardware good, software could use some improvement, performance good

rigid elbow
river horizon
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oh, i've never used that feature - thanks for pointing it out

mild fulcrum
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Really wish Ayaneo went with dual OLEDS

river horizon
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i suspect it was to avoid screen burn on with the togglable elements on the second screen, or perhaps they couldnt get an OLED with the aspect ratio they wanted

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but yes, another OLED would have been great

weary spire
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Bros really gotta fix his camera settings. The screens are completely blown out.

tropic widget
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Could be burn in. But I don't see that being an issue unless your leaving it static for 8 hour sessions. And even then most modern OLEDs compensate to some degree

slender flame
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The lg wing isn't a modern OLED tho

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Having said that, yeah probably what you said, the aspect ratio

river horizon
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it's going to be an adjustment going from playing DS/3DS exclusively on original hardware to these massive new modern screens

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does anyone have a view on Ayaneos failure rate (overall, not just hinge) and are the customer experience reports on reddit accurate or overblown?

proven void
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you really just gotta go with your gut on it

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eleven wang was a hilarious incident, and i can't blame anybody for holding that against em but i've had a positive experience with all of their customer support.
the only issue i know with one of their devices i own was my pocket micro has a random double tap in my buttons that i've seen others report too

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i will say their shipment process is, frankly, extremely frustrating? but i just have horrid luck and always pick a SKU that gets held up in factories, literally every time lol

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the number of people who buy from them has to be pretty small compared to the other companies so idk what the sample size of issues vs no issues would look like

river horizon
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appreciate your experience, yeah its tricky because i sense they are a low volume (comparatively) provider so you dont get a big sample size, but people rarely go online and talk about how everything is working as expected

proven void
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true, true

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for me i have the pocket micro and the original flip DS

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i honestly didnt know that one had a controversy too, i guess they stopped producing some of the remaining orders? i forget what i saw someone say

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but mine still works perfectly well

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it can be a bit windows wonky but the bottom screen functions were genuinely neat

fervent night
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What aspect ratio was the top screen?

proven void
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main reason im interested in android for this is because i realized android as an experience is just way snappier than windows even at the best of times for general hopping between roms

fervent night
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And this was g3x gen 2?

proven void
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oh sorry were you asking me?

fervent night
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Just the channel lol

proven void
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oh ok

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looks like top screen is 1920x1080

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16:9

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and G3x Gen 2 is correct

fervent night
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Now I’m just thinking maybe I want the 6” oled and the bottom is fine as lcd, as the 6” will be the primary display……..

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Or maybe I just do t need any of the new devices lmao

tender kraken
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It is for me. I preordered the DS before the Thor and I'm sticking with it. Decided after going back and forth for a bit that I just need to pick one and stay put.

fervent night
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Just found out about the 4:3 patches for some switch games. TotK and BotW look amazing on the dmg

untold echo
fervent night
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Cause with the Thor, it’s a 5.5” oled on top, and I already have an Ayaneo air, pocket air, rp5, flip 2 lol

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Switch lite incoming oled mod

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Wow didn’t realize how many 5.5 oled I had until I listed those….

wicked finch
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the thor has a 6 inch oled

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the pocket ds has a 7 inch oled

fervent night
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Ah

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Now the Thor is back in the mix

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Way to go….

tender kraken
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Not hating btw, for some ppl collecting is the hobby.

fervent night
olive dawn
atomic lion
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What...? Isn't this similar to what happens for the old flip a year ago? 👀

#🔥│upcoming-chat message

olive dawn
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Kinda seems like

mild fulcrum
tulip fox
mild fulcrum
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I’m not super worried. By the time I notice burn-in I’ll be well onto my next handheld.

frank ingot
mild fulcrum
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Or I can take it down to the e-waste recycling facility down the road

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Or I can just use it until it breaks

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Idk guys I haven’t been worried about OLED burn in for years now

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I’m not using it 12 hours a day stuck on a static UI

frank ingot
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its okay, no need to explain, feel free to do whatever you want. no one's gonna judge

loud portal
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Mostly, even back in the day, it was an issue with people just watching the same TV channel with a logo in the same place 24 hours a day anyhow kek

proven void
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True

silver heath
plain turret
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well, better

silver heath
silver heath
# plain turret well, better

Maybe it’ll work on the Pocket DS as well? If we can get something like that working the same ways the RP5 “fix” worked, that would work out pretty great.

silver heath
# olive dawn seems also doesnt fully close

It does, it’s just the fact that the middle portion is raised to prevent the controls from hitting the screen. The Thor has the same thing but arguably “worse” given it’s a much smaller section being raised (I say “worse” in that it’s outright gonna have more of a gap, this does not mean that it’s bad in the first place).

tropic widget
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Dunno if I could do it. Wish there was a local store that had em so I could see. But my guess is in an environment with bright lighting, it'd feel more noticeable

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And in dark settings.

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So really in average lighting it might be ok

silver heath
plain turret
olive dawn
plain turret
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Also, I have no plans to get the Pocket DS

tropic widget
plain turret
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I'm a bit annoyed with ayaneo right now, and they have no plans on sending dev units anyway

mild fulcrum
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So question for you @plain turret what's the discriminator in terms of which handhelds you work on? Like how do you choose? You've said you're interested in working on the Pocket DS but would you also work to get GammaNext on the Thor?

silver heath
hoary zinc
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Was thinking the same thing doggylol

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"Literally right above your comment"

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Gamma mentioned an interest in Thor, though, if AYN will send him one and/or work with him if I recall?

plain turret
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lmao the pocket ds itself is interesting, but ayaneo as a company doesn't listen to feedback from me

hoary zinc
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Oof, that's a bummer they won't listen

plain turret
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So I'm not interested in working on it currently

hoary zinc
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Their loss

plain turret
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I'm purchasing the Thor as I'm interested in it personally

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But no dev unit

frank ingot
silver heath
frank ingot
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wondering if its due to language barrier issue..

silver heath
plain turret
frank ingot
plain turret
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I have a direct line to their lead developer

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Responses are sparodic

frank ingot
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PS : just some purely guessing BS from my brain, not trying to defame or anything.

not sure why, but i have a feeling that AYA is currently trying hard to sell as many Pocket DS as possible, but AYN sniping with Thor causing AYA to lose alot of it's pre-order, and AYA is currently trying to scale production and damage control.

so development side might be postpone due to massive high order and sudden mass cancelation.

hoary zinc
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This is like the third time AYN has done this to Ayaneo, doubtful they're surprised by it

silver heath
frank ingot
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is the 1st or 2nd time has pre-order as large as the 3rd(pocket DS) ?

mild fulcrum
silver heath
mild fulcrum
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So neither interested in nor getting one.

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But, the fact that he’s getting a Thor does make me more interested in that one.

mild fulcrum
silver heath
frank ingot
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placing manufacturing order while trying to scale demand by using pre-order numbers has very destructive consequences.

when your pre-orders was like 1500 pre-orders, and you place manufacturing orders from 1000 then raise it to 2000 units, then your pre-order numbers cuts down by 40%, which is from 1500 becomes 900.

if they have strong financials to cover the cost, that would have no problems, but when they doesn't.. i would've in PANIC MODE.

plain turret
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If they offer a unit, fair enough I'll take a look

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But I'm doubtful

mild fulcrum
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With the Thor we can wait a bit

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Since early pricing is maybe $10 less

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Versus the DS where early bird pricing is significantly less

mild fulcrum
frank ingot
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yeah, i can wait for Thor.

tropic widget
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Ayaneo has a mentality has always kind of been like you will buy it and like it cause we know best. So I get collabs are less likely

silver heath
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I’m honestly still surprised in general that they managed to regress in the audio quality after the Pocket Ace. The Ace might not have the best audio quality I’ve ever used, but it’s obscenely better than both the Micro’s and the Pocket Air’s.

tropic widget
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I mean the one vid of that 1s ds floating around sounded pretty horrendous

silver heath
# tropic widget I mean the one vid of that 1s ds floating around sounded pretty horrendous

Fair enough, at the time I was thinking that was just them being “bafflingly worse at the handhelds they’ve worked on way longer than the Android handhelds they only more recently started making”, but I guess that also could’ve been an early sign that the speakers they’re using for both aren’t the best (or given Gamma’s above example, that they’re nowhere near as good as they could be).

tropic widget
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Yeah. I mean a good eq can fix a lot

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They might just not really tune them at all

silver heath
silver heath
tropic widget
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Haha yup

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I'm sure when batch ordering components there's some variability too. Not sure if part of their QC they even test sound quality besides making sure they at least work

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Not that I expect them to either

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But I'm sure they're more flexible with batching then phone makers

tropic frost
polar jacinth
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I took a few days to decide. But ended up cancelling DS. After hearing the sound in that video from speakers. Its really put me off the device.

tulip fox
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Did you listen to the video with headphones? At least to my ears the DS sounded a lot better and more detailed, a bit bass heavy but there’s an EQ

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The only thing I’m a bit unsure of is that bottom screen. Oled and LCD together especially in the dark is going to be rough