AYANEO Pocket DS

[tropic widget]

I buy anything that isn't shades of grey or retro themed 😆

[atomic lion]

Their "glacier blue" for the air plus series previously don't really look anything like blue

[agile surge]

the rumor so far is just us wishing it it would make sense but we have no evidence at all that that is happening

[agile surge]

basically "almost white" if it's this

eh, I suppose it's okay if you don't like the other two

wish they made more fun colors like transparents

[patent sleet]

Well there is the community poll which doesn’t happen that often and it would make sense that Ayn announces something now. It has been almost a year since Odin 2 Portal was announced

[olive dawn]

which makes me question how much it would really bother me here ...as 250ppi on 3,9" square screen bothers me ,but 200ppi at wide 7,4" oled didnt .... both at holding above my head in bed distance(although i dont really play more textheavy games there so cant really say and never tried discord ... which would be big usecase for bottom screen ... will have to try )

[agile surge]

ah right, I've seen that mentioned, do you have a link to the poll? can't seem to find it

[patent sleet]

#1106412857207312394 message

It’s on Ayn discord server. That channel is only used for community polls and it seems like it has been used about once per year

[agile surge]

gotcha

well that's true, it's suggestive

last time they did this was right before the Odin 2 Portal was announced

but it doesn't really give any hints of what to expect

[patent sleet]

That’s right. Unclear it’s a dual screen device. My gut says it’s not.

Maybe Odin 2 Mini OLED?

[tropic widget]

I'm assuming light blue isn't the same as transparent blue. I'm really hoping for an actual Carolina or baby blue

Unfortunately "premium" means only shades of grey, off whites, and sports car yellow apparently

[radiant hawk]

Lmao 😂

[agile surge]

easiest bet would be Odin 3

but I would think AYN would want to compete with the DS too

so I guess we'll see

[vestal dawn]

More pastels would be nice. Was tempted to grab the pastel pink R36S just for the colour, ahaha.

[radiant hawk]

customizing the clamshell would be good

[patent sleet]

I think I am going to get a surface duo since I only want to play ds and 3ds games. I don’t need to extra power. https://retrohandhelds.gg/microsoft-surface-duo-still-a-dual-screen-dream/

[opal hazel]

Last I checked they were extremely overpriced

[tropic widget]

Yeah. The days of finding them for a decent price might be gone now

I'd also have to say at least the gen 1 struggled with some 3ds if you didn't optimize, sometimes for each title

[patent sleet]

I am going to China next week and found Surface Duo 1 in decent condition for 150 USD. But yeah on eBay they are often 300+

[patent sleet]

Are you sure? From what I have read most games can be play 2-3x upscaled

[quasi bay]

With azahar it should be able to do 2x minimum on all games

[tropic widget]

Playing a link between worlds stock with several emulators was pretty choppy

Maybe azahar fixed that. It didn't exist back then

[agile surge]

150 is a steal

go for it

[hoary zinc]

Yeah that's a crazy good price!

I'm still interested in the Ayaneo DS even having a Duo, but I'm more curious about how Ayaneo is gonna handle the software for dual-screen gaming.

[radiant hawk]

i'm going to probably get an Ayaneo Pocket DS. I gave it alot of thought. It's just a question of which one

[olive dawn]

Yeah if you only really care for 2ds and 3ds and don't have any of the retroids to get justbthe addon ... pocket DS makes might make most sense depending on final pricing

I have RDA on the way on android side .... and 1s ds 8840u ordered , but my I plan lots of nongaminhg related things with it (which wouldnt reslly work on android) .

Might probably grab still smaller/weaker/cheaper version of pocked ds if someone makes it

[radiant hawk]

I'm also thinking about the 8840u flip 1s. I want a device that can play everything.

[olive dawn]

Shame about the shortage , glad I YOLO'd it

[radiant hawk]

yeah 🙁

hopefully, ayaneo will put the 8840u version up again

[olive dawn]

i basically kinda ordered it last minute of the "giftbox offer" for free case (ads some swag) ... and like day or two after they announced the shortage

[radiant hawk]

that timing

[tight cape]

I've had one of these and it's a really nice device, but with the controller and the surface duo you will be paying quite close to what this device will be, but with less power and much less battery life.

Don't forget these have tiny batteries.

[tight cape]

Even better them buttons at the bottom could be removed and give us an even bigger screen.

[patent sleet]

Battery life is something I haven’t considered. How many hours did you have for playing ds and 3ds games?

Yeah surface duo can be very expensive. I am lucky that I am going to China in a week and found good deal at $150 and G8+ costs only $35. $185 in total is a great deal

[tight cape]

Ok then I would at that price give it ago, I had to buy a external battery when I was using it as a regular phone.

The battery life, cameras and software are it's biggest let downs.

You don't get much battery life. I've never tested it myself.

[patent sleet]

Yeah I can imagine it being very annoying using it as the primary phone

[tight cape]

Yeah used it about 8 months as a phone. Sometimes for some reason it just got stuck in one mode and wouldn't change so you had to hard reboot.

You can put window 11 on it.

I played world of warcraft on it, it was terrible like 12 frames a second 😂

[agile surge]

it's pretty meh, all batteries on surface duos are old now so

maybe 2 hours of gameplay on a good day

not a set-up to take with you on a long trip

[tropic widget]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pocket-ds-world-s-1st-dual-screen-android-handheld/coming_soon/x/9181744

[patent sleet]

That’s concerning. I am planning to take it outside of home but 2 hours battery life is going to be very annoying.

[olive dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKF4r3R1mI

[vestal dawn]

You should track how often you use your current device outside and consider if you plug in your device daily or if you wait until it's low/dead before you plug it in.
Most people don't actually need that much battery life, especially if they habitually plug in the device at the end of the day anyway.

[vestal dawn]

Made me think they started/listed a price, ahaha. Page has been up for a few days/weeks now.

[agile surge]

it is what it is, batteries age, the surface duo is an old device; I would still recommend it, just as long as you keep that caveat in mind

I haven't found it a deal breaker because I rarely game longer than 2 hours at a time outside of trips

but if I'm traveling I'd take something else with me

[patent sleet]

I rarely game longer than 2 hours either, but ideally the battery life is a bit longer so that I don't need to worry about charging often. And when the device needs to charge often the battery ages even faster

[agile surge]

yes, that's a perfectly valid concern

howeveeeeerr.... there isn't anything quite like the surface duo out there as of yet

[vestal dawn]

Which is both depressing and mind boggling

[patent sleet]

Yeah it's so unique which is what attracts me on top of being a good DS device.

Would be nice to get a new edition of it, though I can't imagine myself paying 1400 for it

[vestal dawn]

Lenovo please, I'll pay a premium for like, a gen 1/2 Y700 that folds.

[patent sleet]

Would you prefer two screens like Surface Duo or a single foldable screen like Samsung Fold?

[agile surge]

the DS addon from Retroid will soon change this I think, with some trade offs but certainly better battery life

the Pocket DS is obviously also a contender but it might end up too large, and bottom screen is not OLED

right now I would not say the Pocket DS will replace the Duo entirely

[vestal dawn]

I'd prefer two screens personally for proper hard glass/protectors, but a foldable screen would probably appeal to the masses more and be easier to market.

[vestal dawn]

If the latency isn't bad the RP5/Mini + add-on is probably the most versatile option

I bet someone will print a shell that the add-on can fit in that makes it cover the whole RP5

Heck, someone will probably work something out for the mini too

[patent sleet]

The addon with mini is so nice. Hope Retroid will make an integrated dual screen device with the two OLED screens they have. But first they need to fix the Flip 2 hinge issue

[radiant hawk]

Isn't the pocket ds supposed to have the same clamshell as the flip 1s?

Just different hardware inside

[patent sleet]

I think it has very similar width and depth but not different thickness

[vestal dawn]

It's similar, but the mold is different and the way the shell is enclosed is different too.
Ironically, the cheaper Pocket DS kind of looks more premium because the seams are on the side so you won't see them while using it and the bottom screen is bigger.

Like, the Flip 1S bottom shell is enclosed with the seams on the inside/facing you so any flaws will be in your face like this

Whereas the Pocket DS the enclosure seams are on the sides of the unit so you won't notice any flaws as easily.

Also any dust/dead skin buildup will be more noticeable with normal usage on the Flip 1S inside seams as opposed to the Pocket DS outside seams.

[radiant hawk]

Thank you for the forwarded pics 🙏

[radiant hawk]

I see. From the pictures it looks like two different shells

Bummer. I really like the flip 1s.

[olive dawn]

yup ... i used to be one of those who complained about batterylife all the time ... until did track how i use things and found out that anything above 2h makes things nonissue for me with exception to like one bimonthly trip 😄

[patent sleet]

I work from home so charging is not really an issue but one of the best things about having an android device is that i can leave it in sleep mode to pick up and play. It would be annoying if whenever I want to pick it up it needs to charge. i mean I can keep in charging while I am not using it, but that's probably not good for the battery, right?

[whole spindle]

I'd order an odin version in a heartbeat

[tropic widget]

Sleep makes it so nice. Especially if your living arrangements involve agents of chaos

[olive dawn]

i think i have somewhat of OCD about turning things of properly after use and am very peculiar on how kids use these things too 😄

[olive dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAG8YaGwXYI

[agile surge]

ah yes, playing Wuthering Waves on one screen and Genshin Impact on the other, the main use case we were all thinking of

[hoary zinc]

Right!?

[solar grove]

Probably to demonstrate the chip's power

Specially to the asian market

[opal hazel]

Wonder if you can turn off the top or bottom screen completely when not in use , yes admittedly kind of dumb question but just curious

[agile surge]

yeah, you can, just replied to you on the other channel lol

[opal hazel]

Yeah I seen it but most people ignore anything I say so I just covered my basses

[patent sleet]

I replied to Blob so ICYMI: #🔥│upcoming-chat message

[karmic cobalt]

I know it's a joke. But I probably know at least 3 people who do exactly this, just on multiple devices. Gacha addiction is real.

[patent sleet]

Not familiar with Android games. These two games look very similar to me

[mild crystal]

Adult euthanization is a viable option I think

[kind bobcat]

Unemployment final boss

[vernal spire]

Multi tasking amount of time you save by having 2 games set up .So can you play 2 emulated games at once eg 2 different ps2 games or the same game on 2 different platforms .I suspect the answer is no unless you can have the same program running in 2 instances.

[tight cape]

Maybe two instance tiktok double the mind rot.

[vestal dawn]

You can have an idle/incremental game on one screen and...another idle/incremental on the other because you've lost control of your life.

[patent sleet]

It’s not too bad

Kind of expected to be on the heavier side

[long hedge]

Yeah, honestly did not expect it to be this heavy

[river harbor]

For 3DS emulation, I wonder if you have to tap first to activate the screen before using it.

That could be quite annoying using both screens and physical buttons.

[agile surge]

I don't know man

my GPD Win Mini is 500 ish grams and that's a PC handheld

500g for an android handheld is kiiiinda pushing it

but I guess the battery life will be amazing

[vernal spire]

Ha ha

[patent sleet]

It’s definitely heavier than I would like but I expected that it would be on the heavier side given the size. I would prefer a much smaller device. Something like the Flip 2, at most a bit bigger like n3dsxl and <400g

[mild crystal]

4.5" and 3.5" screen would really be peak IMHO

Obviously 16:9 is cool but a real 5:3 would be neat too because it would be native for 3DS but also not too letterboxed for 16:9 content

I also do not understand why there's such an emphasis from Ayaneo on a 3:2 bottom screen; nothing is going to take advantage of it

They should be using a 4:3 screen from the get-go

[patent sleet]

Flip 1s DS has 3:2 bottom screen but the Pocket DS has 4:3 bottom screen

It’s very confusing for them to release two similar products close in time

But those are not the most confusing names. For that, check out Konkr Fit and Konkr Pocket Fit 🤣

#1399437549864222941

[tight cape]

I'm thinking a game on one screen and then a video on another would be the best use case for the two screens. Other than DS and 3DS.

[solid moss]

I think I've decided that I'm either gonna wait for something a bit smaller, or get the Retroid Screen to use with my Odin 2 Mini.

[weary spire]

Arthur actually mentioned they got linux drivers for the g series chips, i think for the gen 2, said to expect support for it in the future.

Linux will also not have the same drawbacks on the chip that android has with dev support. So itll be consistently more performant than the stock 8 gen 2 on the odin platform. Ill probably set up a linux os on one of my devices to see how various games run.

[silver heath]

G3X Gen 2’s already working with the Ace, so it’s only a matter of time for the Pocket DS.

[weary spire]

Oh, that i wasnt aware of. Thats dope. Maybe ill do that with my pocket S. I just cant bring myself to sell it because its such a nice device.

[vestal dawn]

Yeah, for obvious general purpose stuff that would be the go to. Other uses would be a walkthrough/map/spreadsheet on the other screen for the game you're playing.

Like, consider 100% completion checklist sheets for games like Animal Crossing or Stardew, Missables guide for games with a lot of points of no return like JRPGs, or item location maps for open world games with collectable baubles.

[whole spindle]

Oh shit. I still think I want to wait and see for an odin. Its probably the most premium one of these I've bought and I dont want to switch off unless i know it the pocket ds is just better. But its awesome we can start seeing linux more commonly on these things. But although linux may not have the same drawbacks, the odin 2 portal is still missing 120hz and hdr as far as I know. Which is useful in moonlight/artimis

[whole spindle]

Yeah the annoying thing about android is most things just close in the background. So sometimes i end up juggling my phone and odin 2 cause if i back out the game will close or I'll disconnect from a server. Game on top and browser, telegram, discord, whatever on the bottom will be super usefule

[weary spire]

Personally the software from aya is way better for a handheld. Much more customizable and functional for a handheld. When i had my odin 2 it got really annoying having to set up 3rd party launchers that either looked okay for android games or barely supported them. Now i just have ES DE in the hotbar along with all my native games and it works like a dream

[whole spindle]

I don't think any of these default launchers has particularly grabbed me. I'm doing the same as you now and have es set up. I switch between that and just stock android

I mostly appreciate little touches like the screen turning off when docked

[weary spire]

I really like the custom background for each app. Its a good enough combo that im more than satified to keep using it. And definitely would use any gaming launcher over it, despite pretty much immediately installing daijisho to handle everything before.

[whole spindle]

Man i just want the psp cross media bar. Huh i wonder if someone made that in general for Android. I know retro arch has it

Shit there is. Hasn't been updated in a year but maybe it's mostly finished

[tight cape]

That's a good idea. When playing world of warcraft I have achievement guides up to help.

I can't wait to see what people come up with when getting a dual screen device.

im getting it purely for DS and 3DS emulation plus all the other emulation that this chip will do.

But I might do the guides thing you was saying.

The pocket DS I basically the only device that's gotten me excited for a while now so that's a pure win just on that front.

There is only so many handhelds that get realsed before it's starts to feel the same.

[tight cape]

The pocket DS I basically the only device that's gotten me excited for a while now so that's a pure win just on that front.

There is only so many handhelds that get realsed before it's starts to feel the same.

[proven void]

👀

[zenith scarab]

Oh yeah. It's all coming together

[tulip fox]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-disney-the-emperor’s-new-groove-emperor's-new-groove-disney’s-emperor’s-new-groove-gif-9209845644877110421

[tropic frost]

I have $499 to spend and nothing to spend it on!

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[simple axle]

when do we get more info on this thing (price, release date, etc)?

[hoary zinc]

Supposedly end of this month

[patent sleet]

I jumped on the Surface Duo ship

Bye Pocket DS

[olive dawn]

i almost bough one too ...found super cheap usde deal ... but then i noticed small text mentioning almost dead battery

[patent sleet]

I have seen a few posts with cheap surface duo on eBay and they are just broken parts…

The prices are definitely inflated a lot. I only bought it because I found a very good deal

[mild crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-mostly-dead-slightly-alive-the-princess-bride-gif-15503255

[agile surge]

see you in 2 weeks

[tight cape]

It's happening. It's all coming together. DS and 3DS are going to be sooo playable when the pocket ships.

[opal hazel]

They already are playable on a 3DS

[simple axle]

hyped for portable DS and 3DS at last

[olive dawn]

Tbh the bit that portable

[tropic frost]

I need to get rid of my 8 various DSs now =.=

[olive dawn]

[tight cape]

True, but YouTube and watching movies isn't, so is PS2 emulation and up isn't.

Plus the screens are simply terrible on my DS it actually gives me a headache 😆

[opal hazel]

I was half kidding but still enjoy using original hardware to play DS games

[zenith scarab]

I don't know what Microsoft did, but every experience of using that thing has been frustrating for me. Doesn't matter if I factory reset it or what, it's always just laggy and unpleasant.

[tropic frost]

Ive a dual IPS New 3DS LL. Two N2DSXL a DSI XL, DSI and a DS Lite

I know the feeling. Will be nice to upscale the games to a higher resolution tho.

[tropic widget]

Makes sense

[olive dawn]

it wasnt a leak lol ... they straight up had it as one of the slides

[tropic widget]

Yeah. Dunno what that guy was on about. I thought I remembered seeing it too

I guess they could raise the price for US

[olive dawn]

iirc the abroad prices are usually 100$-ish higher

[tropic frost]

Do Aya ship via 4PX or declare the item value as low when bought via IGG?

[olive dawn]

no clue

but just mailed them about it ....in relationto my 1S DS order

so will seen when they reply back

[agile surge]

nope

[tropic frost]

Boke 20% import tariff when item is over £135 in the UK.

[agile surge]

but if you ask nicely they'll ship it to you using DPD, which usually evades taxes but it's shittier than 4PX

[olive dawn]

we have 21% VAT(sales tax on stuff valued over 150€) and import duty ... but import duty should be 0% if its marked as phone/laptop

but each shipping company counts them differently

for example 4px usually skips even vat

or DHL on other side ,always does both vat and import with 4% as processing fee

[worthy estuary]

I feel you man....

[mild crystal]

really i think until someone offers an original 3ds sized DS handheld i won't really stray far from the 1S

[tropic widget]

Doubt that'll happen. Hardware was very targeted. And because of that they were able to fit it into something so thin. I mean, it's possible in the future future. But unless you're fine with going back to low res screens, it'll be hard to match the size with all the modern hardware were accustomed to

I guess duo is pretty close. But no controls, and it's not like manus are stocked with MS engineers

[olive dawn]

someone will try

ayaneo usally goes for the highest tiet of high tier premium

eveb when they dont need so

other competitior are in general more budget and regualr guman friendly

[tropic widget]

Yeah. It ain't gonna be cheap

Imagine more expensive than the Ayaneo phone they're gonna launch 😆

[errant dirge]

Weve already been waiting quite a while for a proper ds clone anyway.

Might as well keep on.

I honestly think we will get one thats closer to the original hardware in terms of size and design when fpga gets there in.... quite awhile from now lol

Till then dont really expect pocketability designs for a bit. Hopefully sooner than later but till then ill enjoy what we got.

[tropic widget]

DS might be more feasible. But you'll need more power to push the two high res screens. Then you'll need a larger battery to get decent playtime. Then there will probably be thermal considerations. Etc.

Yeah. Fpga might be the best bet

I mean you could do it. Vapor chamber cooling and other stuff modern phones have. But it won't be cheap

Maybe a custom android fork optimized for the hardware

[errant dirge]

The fortunate thing about dual screen design really for the battery at least you could split it between top and bottom half I guess. Your right though it wouldnt be cheap rn.

[tropic widget]

Yeah. Or move the speakers up top. Etc

It's probably just a level of effort not worth the R&D without a hefty price tag

Who knows. Maybe if the Ayaneo phone sells like crazy they'll release a dual screen version. Or maybe a DS folding version. At some point

[olive dawn]

tbh i dont see single problem no for moe portable design existing / apprarmg

Pocket DS being this huge ... is ultimately jsut ayaneo being themselves

and chasing the "numbers go br..." meta and ultra premium feel .... while also saving tons of money by just slighly modifiing the work they already did on the flips

[tight cape]

I tried 🙂 but my eyes aren't the best, so screen quality is something of extreme importance to me.

Hopefully this device is the one.

[tight cape]

The duo 2 most of them issues are fixed. But yes the main complaint of the duo is the software wasn't sorted out until the last update of surface duo and by that time the duo was binned.

[tight cape]

I had a 2ds XL. I also had the original ds and ds lite I've sold them now through.

[tight cape]

Also duo cost £1500 lol that's like 4/5 times what people are willing to pay for a dual screen handheld.

I personally think we need a 300 to 350 price on It.

Plus duo software is dead and the battery life is terrible so even that has massive issues. Not to mention you can only buy it used.

[tropic frost]

Retroid Pocket Flip with a second screen in the correct aspect ratio would be enough for most people

[tight cape]

That won't happen, FPGA that is since FPGA is extremely power hungry.

[tight cape]

I had a thought that Samsung should realse a Dual screen version of there ultra phone.

Imagine the ultra but a screen folds out from the back to make a dual screen phone when you want.

It will.habe the interacted pen, it would have everything.

[olive dawn]

yup or just give RP5 top and RPmin botom screen ... that would ideal middle bro between my upcomng Flip 1S and old 3ds

[tight cape]

I think that's what people wanted from retroid.

[tropic frost]

Yarp

Looking forward to RGCs review this weekend. Especially with Azahar? Getting dual screen support for 3DS emulation

[tropic widget]

Ah true. I forgot even at launch battery was pretty subpar

[tight cape]

Yeah 3300 is truly terrible with 1 screen let alone with 2.

[olive dawn]

https://weibo.com/3045349655/PFHjqu11L

[tropic frost]

Samsung sticking to roughly 4400 with their Folds =.=

[olive dawn]

DPD skips even VAT?

[agile surge]

it should, yes, at least it did in the UK and the EU as of a few months ago

well, no, let me correct that

VAT you'll normally get charged directly when you buy the device

it's only import taxes that you might skip

[olive dawn]

not with IGG though ... that dont inlcude VAT

[agile surge]

then yeah, anything that is not included in the purchase price you might skip with DPD

[olive dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-yolo-hru-good-hbu-gif-23121026

[olive dawn]

how was tracking in your case?

[agile surge]

godawful

basically no updates whatsoever from the moment it was sent until it showed up in my doorstep a couple weeks later

it's impressively bad

but that's what you get with DPD

[olive dawn]

gonna be fascinating then ... given i am using office adress and here is multiple companies on it

[agile surge]

I think I did get an email from DPD the day before

so there's at least that

or the same day of delivery, not sure

[olive dawn]

that should be enought to track it
... if the delivery guy is the same one as yesterday

[agile surge]

that sounds like DPD alright

they are super sloppy on deliveries, you basically have to meet the delivery man in person or you risk things like that

[olive dawn]

so as lon as it arrives in the ountry fine

i should be capable to annoy DPD to give te package to me

[olive dawn]

its kinda fascinating how they are even capable of employig same kind of sloppy delivery men .... across the world

[agile surge]

haha for real

I don't know, I think it's something about the work conditions and company policy of DPD that attracts a certain type of employee

like the pay is probably bad, the company doesn't do safety checks to save costs, etc

so you end up with the same kind of people doing the same kind of job

[olive dawn]

anyway lets home my 1S arrives safely with them ... from what i checked people who changed mostly got theirs

[agile surge]

last thing I ordered from Ayaneo via DPD arrived fine

but I'm still not particularly fond of them

[tropic widget]

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[mild crystal]

did someone say tetris axis, the greatest tetris game of all time

[zenith scarab]

does he... just dance the entire time?

[mild crystal]

yes.

[tight cape]

I have a fold and the 4400 is truly pushing the limit of a day phone.

You have to turn screen brightness down and cap the CPU to make it through I have about 10% left and I just use it normally.

[tropic frost]

Yup

What kills battery life for me at home is poor 4g / 5g connectivity though. Phone felt as though it lasted twice as long in tokyo

And that was running about with Google maps open all day

[tight cape]

That looks sooo good.

[tight cape]

I truly think phone makers need to focus on battery.

Imagine a battery that lasts a week on a single charge.

That would be such a worthy upgrade.

Like chip.power they make it 20 to 40% more powerful every year. That should be battery life.

[tropic frost]

Agreed but think we're getting a bit too off topic.

Pocket DS has big battery! Be more like Aya phone companies!

[tight cape]

Yeah I can't wait to order mine, I am hoping the pocket DS battery is big enough, but if not this is a first generation product so it's only going to get better.

[tropic frost]

Expecting 8000mah given the size.

Price is the main concern but if its sub $500 Im in.

[hallow timber]

Battery is 8000 mAh

[river harbor]

Price should be sub 400.

Retroid mini plus screen is a little under 300. Dpad on top and Shipped included.

[frank ingot]

you can't compare retroid with ayaneo

[thick obsidian]

i can't imagine Ayaneo charging less than 400, especially since it's the first device of its kind until retroid/anbernic make one.

i wouldnt be surprised if its 499+

[frank ingot]

price should be 419 usd, 469 usd, 519 usd

[thick obsidian]

what are the specs for the 419 model, 8gb ram?

[solid tundra]

yeah im expecting 450 plus

[frank ingot]

should be minimum spec

[tight cape]

That looks sooo good apart from the sticks look a little small.

[frank ingot]

the only information that we have from ayaneo is 2XXX rmb
which i assuming would be 2999 rmb

convert from 2999 rmb to usd would be 417 usd

so it should be atleast 419usd for oversea price, base model price should be floating between 419usd to 450usd.

[tight cape]

The battery is 8000 my issue is we will not know if this equals good battery life since we have two screens.

But we shall see.

[tight cape]

What about early bird price you think?

[frank ingot]

the numbers that i'm talking about is highly possible that its a early bird pricing, actual release price should be much more higher

[tight cape]

Awe ok thank you I personally was expecting a 400 price point so I'm not too far off.

[frank ingot]

i am hoping for the price to be sub 419 usd for the base model, because i'm expecting myself to buy a high spec model which is around 500~550usd

but if its way off, and priced much more higher, i dont mind playing the waiting game.

[agile surge]

the difference is that the Pocket DS also doubles as an Odin 2 Portal competitor with that top screen and chip

[frank ingot]

might as well go for konkr pocket fit, or odin 3. future is bright.

anyone know information about snapdragon G3 like who manufactures these chips ?

i read some china random forums where they share a concern about G3/G3X chips are not by TSMC, but from samsung foundry

PS : TSMC chips are much higher quality, durable. if you're wondering.

[olive dawn]

i would be very surprised if its under 500 for western price

[river harbor]

Well with the new tax to us after 8/29, it will be even more expensive.

Just saying that functionally, the retroid is good enough option.

I do like the bigger screens of DS.

[olive dawn]

For my usecase the snap-on solution is better as that way I can use it with multiple devices I already own and is more versatile

• I kinds already have DYI way to the the same just way clunkier and less bagable

But would probably still grab if they or someone else made lite version of pocket DS

[olive dawn]

Ok switched the Flip1s order to DPD .... and I will blame you if it gets lost

[tropic widget]

I could see $400 on the lowest model. But that's def the lowest they'd ever go

[olive dawn]

Yup ... anything lower would be a miracle

[silver heath]

It’s a frankly insane comparison to make at all, considering literally all the differences, up to and including chipset, since one is the SD865 and the other is the SDG3XGen2(aka, SD8G2 territory).

Like, at best I’d compare this with buying an Odin 2 Mini and Retroid DS attachment way before I compare it with the RPMini+RDS.

[pseudo grail]

bottom screen looks great in terms of scaling

perfect for ds games

good for 3ds

this handheld is basically all I've ever wanted but not pocketable. That is like the main thing I care about.

If a handheld isn't pocketable I feel like I'm just better off using a tablet with a controller

[vestal dawn]

Depends on the person and I'm basically with you on that, but a baggable device that doesn't require physical setup is something a lot of people would be happy with.

I do wish it were closer to Retroid Flip size because something in my pocket will get way more use than something I have to pull out of a bag myself.

[pseudo grail]

Yeah, I've seen myself not wanting to pull out my switch while on the train

because I have to open my bag

open the smaller bag inside

and then I can play

It's very sluggish and not really convenient

especially if you go on a bus, no seats and don't have space to place down your bag

[vestal dawn]

Yeah, it's why my personal priority is "does it fit in my pocket?"

The Retroid Flip 2 is the closest to my ideal currently.

I'd love a dual screen device just for added multitasking, but I'm probably going to be waiting to see other offerings.

[pseudo grail]

Retroid flip pretty nice, I'm just not convinced with the wii u layout when it comes to a handheld with limited space

also it's thicker than I woukd prefer

I love. the wii u gamepad, but in my opinion it only works so well because it's huge

same cannot be said for the rp flip 2

[vestal dawn]

It's a shame there's no easy way to try out devices.
Luckily the layout is very comfortable to me, but I can see why it wouldn't be the case for others.

[pseudo grail]

I've tried it out on a piece of paper

it was okay

but okay is not what I'm looking for when buying a 200+ dollar handheld

[vestal dawn]

If you ever get a chance to try it in person do try.
It's a bit different having the proper weight/thickness and things to rest your palm/fingers/thumbs on.

Though maybe wait for a possible revision in the hinge

[olive dawn]

isnt pocket DS way more thikc though?

[pseudo grail]

Yeah, but it's not pocketable so it doesn't matter

[olive dawn]

depends

[pseudo grail]

I mean, it would technically fit in my pocket

but wouldn't be too comfortable

[mild crystal]

https://theonion.com/bizarre-assemblage-of-shapes-visible-through-area-mans-1819591102/

[tropic frost]

Had the same thoughts. Have an Odin 2 and a RP Flip but none are ideal for just having a damn DS

[olive dawn]

i guess final qurstion then is if you are willing to wait to see what competition brings

or if you will fomo into pocket ds anyway

[solar grove]

Never fomo, always wait for reviews

[olive dawn]

there is only one expeception

the elusive One35

[tender kraken]

For the most part I agree with this. Between the Pocket DMG and the Pocket DS I'd have the perfect hand held setups for me personally.

Just needs to have a decent hinge.

[sacred ether]

Anyone think this will be able to run switch

[quasi bay]

Performance wise it will be able to run the majority of the catalog

[olive dawn]

powewise it should be able to , but the specific SoC has way worse driver support than the likes of sd8g2

[tight cape]

In terms of power yes, your be limited to whatever issue the emulator has rather than the device itself.

[tight cape]

That's hilarious and when I get mine I'm so going to try this.

[olive dawn]

that poor hinge though

[tight cape]

This will test the strength of that hinge.

[sacred ether]

Niceee

A switch/ds console sounds so cool

[tropic frost]

I THINK YOU MEAN THE FABLED SUPER SP!

[tight cape]

If you also add in winlator so windows gaming, plus PS2 and PS1. Plus a PS3 emulator is being worked on for android.

It should be an amazing device.

[valid shard]

Seeing rgc’s video on the retroid dual screen add on do you think latency will be an issue for this device? Can we tell from the videos they released already?

[hasty ice]

@kirais_

[olive dawn]

there always will be some by pure physics of things , but i guess we wont know how much until first review

[zenith bolt]

wii u gamepad ergo is hella good im ngl

its a chonker but that comfort is gooood

[valid shard]

Is there a way to get around input lag on android devices as it stands now, it’s not like we don’t have powerful enough devices for some kind of run ahead?

[pseudo grail]

Android in of itself doesn't have latency that is in any way noticable. Bluetooth however can have input delay due to software as far as I'm aware

[olive dawn]

tbh everytime i used my phone to mirror on tv ... latency was ridiculous even using ucbc to hdmi

[agile surge]

really depends on how it's wired internally

but there's a high probability they'll go the cheap route, i.e. it'll be wired as an external USB screen internally

and if so then yeah, it'll probably have some lag

that being said, if they are not stupid they'll be paying attention to the reception and issues of the DS addon from Retroid, so maybe there's hope

[valid shard]

Considering the inevitable price would they do that considering that have a few dual screen devices under their belt at this point and they don’t have a latency issue ?

[agile surge]

how many of those are Android though

easier to do a dual screen device with Windows than with Android

[valid shard]

I know lol I’m trying to be optimistic, I’d love to pick this up and trying to get a good understanding of how this thing may work so I don’t get my hopes up for nothing

[tropic frost]

The latency on the retroid screen is disappointing. Can't say I ever noticed latency on my Xreal Airs

[olive dawn]

iirc xreals have special HW chip to minimize latency

climed to be just 3ms because of that

[tropic widget]

almost bought an rp5 for the 80th time, need to stay strong, lol

[tropic widget]

yeah, this makes sense. Im sure display accessory suppliers spend a lot of time trying to minimize latency

[agile surge]

that's actually impressive if true

[tropic widget]

i wonder how they do that tho

its not like you can just tell the usb bus to go faster

or i think that would be a software implementation

[olive dawn]

they probably need to for soemthing thats so close to the eye

[tropic widget]

turns out they just slow everything else down 😆

tho i guess you're not comparing two displays in that case, just maximizing to the external

[olive dawn]

but you technically have two external displays

so they have to both have same latency

[tropic widget]

like i bet if you ran output to the dedicated screen and the xreal at the same time you'd notice some latency

yeah, but they're both going over the same bus

so your syncing two displays with the same hardware connection

the problem is the dedicated screen isn

so it

is two physical pathways to separate displays, which can make it hard. i have to assume on the ds they're both using the same connection to the pcb

[simple axle]

Hope Ayaneo has videos showing if there are differences between the two screens for this stuff

[tropic widget]

I doubt there will be. Should be pretty low latency or difference between the two outside of resolution and/or refresh rate. Feel like for split apps or DS gaming the differences are probably negligible anyway on most stuff. Like only when you're mirroring does it really come up

[olive dawn]

i guess depends on how they are connected internally

if its i dont kmow both connected separately to pcb ... or if they both go to some panel which then goes to pcb

absolute zero latency is impossible ... but depending on how its connected it should at least give same oen to both screens

[agile surge]

I think they'll do the cheap thing and wire them via USB internally

I can't imagine Ayaneo engineering some custom way to wire two screens for an Android device

[tropic widget]

I mean most of these makers design the pcbs inside. It's not like they wouldn't just add 2 display connectors

[tender kraken]

As long as it works when it arrives 😂

I really don't want to have to open that thing up and solder anything.

[tropic widget]

I mean really the only last couple of issues they had were thermal pads. And the past couple devices they shipped had paste instead. So I'm hoping there's no big gatchas

Should help that they basically just released this in x86

So like, if something crops up there, hopefully it'll be resolved before these ship

[agile surge]

the problem is if they do this it'll suffer from the same input latency issues as the Retroid DS add-on

[tender kraken]

Fair point. Didn't even think about it but that input lag does seem rough in the videos I've seen.

[tropic widget]

Yeah. Like the input lag makes USB not really an option

[rigid elbow]

I'm glad I don't suffer from this input lag you guys seem to. I watched those videos 10 times each and couldn't tell a difference. Win for me. 😅

[sacred ether]

Anyone got an idea of just how thick this thing might be

[rigid elbow]

Everyone can easily have an idea, even you can 🤔 An accurate idea? That can be had in 2 hours and 45 min.

[twin roost]

Forwarding stuff instead of sharing it personally 💔

Making it invisible to me 💔

[daring musk]

It was basically just this screenshot

Why is it invisible to you?

[olive dawn]

huh

forwardin usually ges alll the text and images too even if you are not itnt he other discord

[agile surge]

happy to see they actually built custom software to handle dual screens in Android better

this may well turn into a selling point compared to the alternatives

[olive dawn]

could be yeah

but aftertrying Micro ... i am less sure ... their aya app felt so horrible on Micro to me

[agile surge]

I found Aya software to be decent on the DMG

I'm still not quite sure how I feel about mixing OLED with IPS

on paper it looks like the best attempt at making a modern dual screen handheld yet

but also not quite there

[olive dawn]

it annoyed the hell out of me yesterday ... but maybe they got good panel ... wher its not as bad

[agile surge]

here's hoping

[agile surge]

I think I will wait for reviews on this one

I was contemplating jumping on the preorders but I can wait

[steep geyser]

This is actually not great, as it's missing the "virtual" single screen using the two displays. And useful solution for some apps and workflows imo

[olive dawn]

tbh that one might be hardcore touch to develop

iirc he surface the had special build od andorid to do just that

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I mean in the end this is the best option on all sides. Unless you need x86

Gonna be grabbing one. Tho probably base unless I can think of a reason to go big

[olive dawn]

i will wait for whoever makes lite pocketable version with two oleds

i dont need any of these features ... jus something to replace my dying n3ds

[steep geyser]

The Onexsugar thing has that mode if I understood correctly Dweeb's video

[steep geyser]

Yep, just make a DS XL thing with panoramic on top 😊

[olive dawn]

• i hae 8840u of Flip 1S ordered .... but there gaming isnt main reason for me grabbing it

[agile surge]

#1102344397108039740

if you don't have one of these yet I can recommend it

[olive dawn]

maybe if have trip to japan one day, where they are cheap enough with good state batteries

local ones costs more than flip 1s hx370 ... with bad sate batteries

ultimately i am in no rush ... i already have toons of ways to play those tho platforms ... i can wait years for the specific formfactor i want

i guess about as much as we expected

[agile surge]

okay, so as expected, nothing earth shattering

locking yellow under the more expensive model is downright funny now

[olive dawn]

waiting contines in my case 😄

[olive dawn]

was the same with Flip

[tropic widget]

Heyoooo. Let's go

$400 sounds good to me

[tropic widget]

$400 is looking perfect

Fuck that yellow. They just released it and I'm tired of it. Lol

Forreal tho. The storage price bumps is just depressing. I'd gladly take 12GB RAM and 128GB

Hot. But I'm not paying the likely $700

[agile surge]

much better than the yellow

[tropic frost]

12GB + 256GB it is.

[tropic widget]

This is the right move honestly

If they spread them all by $40 it'd make so much more sense

[tropic frost]

Same config as my Odin 2 lol

Average pokemon go enjoyer

[agile surge]

hmm... tempting

[tropic frost]

BUY IT!

[agile surge]

it's not bad pricing in EUR

[tropic frost]

Can someone link the IGG

[tropic widget]

Honestly $40 more for 4gb more ram is just worth it

[agile surge]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pocket-ds-world-s-1st-dual-screen-android-handheld#/

[tropic frost]

Thanks choom

[tropic widget]

$10 a GB. Seems reasonable

Like if it was $40 gaps all the way up id quickly be buying max model 😆

[tropic frost]

£325 for the 12GB version? Shieeeeet thats nothing. Assuming it doesnt include VAT

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I doubt it does

[tropic frost]

Are there any emulators that need 16GB Ram?

[tropic widget]

Think they work it into their storefront. But IGG notoriously doesn't include

[tropic widget]

PS3? But by then you'd want a larger screen

[tropic frost]

DS / 3DS use only. Maybe Cemu eventually

[tropic widget]

Yeah. 12 enough. Maybe more than enough

12 will should get you comfy 4x tho

[tropic frost]

Ive PC handhelds for PS3 tbh

[tropic widget]

Exactly. That's why I think people max ordering are crazy

[tropic widget]

The top models depreciate fast too

If you decide it's not for you

I remember DMG being on their storefront for basically IGG eb prices for retro like a month after

[olive dawn]

Doesnt

[tropic frost]

£25 shipping bleh

[olive dawn]

But you can request to ship it through sus channels that take longer and may or may bot skip vat

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I'd def go the sus route. Not shipping globally til October. Which means December. Which means delays on priority shipping anyway

[errant dirge]

Is 16gb better for messing with windows emulation like winlator and the like?

[tropic widget]

Yeah. That's the one area on android where you basically just want to max ram

Of course at that price you can probably find an x86 that'll run it better

For cheaper

[tropic frost]

And ordered. Can I message them to ship it via 4PX or?

[tropic widget]

Think it's even worse than 4px

It's like, ocean camel

[tropic frost]

Ive only bought GPD devices. No import fees via 4PX. Or was it DPD...

[rigid elbow]

Request shipping. 🤣

[tropic widget]

It'd be nice if they used 4px

[polar jacinth]

Ask for dpd delivery. No tax

[tropic frost]

Cool ty

[rigid elbow]

Ask them to ship yours first while you're at it

[tropic frost]

Pfft I can wait an extra few weeks for no extra fees

[tropic widget]

Fuck me. I just hit rank 69

[polar jacinth]

Email support after you order. Ask for dpd delivery. Only issue is no tracking with dpd but avoids tax

[tropic widget]

Now I got a buy top model... Smh

[solid tundra]

joys of our country huh 😂

but yeah you'll need DPD. DHL will utterly wreck you in import

[vernal spire]

Oct can't be bothered

[agile surge]

sell your LCD deck bro

you are never gonna use it

[tropic frost]

I dont use the OLED or Win Mini either

[solid tundra]

but yeah, the early bird pricing is pretty decent

[tropic frost]

Also have three itx desktops in the room...

[polar jacinth]

Whats in the gift box?

[tropic widget]

It'll be the MSRP 3 months after it ends too

[tropic widget]

Case and screen protector I think

Think it's just a protector for bottom

[foggy escarp]

400 dollars.

I actually think that's reasonable

[thick obsidian]

surprisingly affordable by ayaneo standards

im honestly shocked

[tropic frost]

Where does it mention "gift box" i saw the screen protector and case as additional addons

Oh under updates

[foggy escarp]

Included storage bag is nice

[tropic widget]

Lol. Screen protector is included by default. But yeah. Extra is mouse pad cause... I dunno

[tropic frost]

Is it a sticker or a mouse pad though. ARTHUR YOU NEED TO CLARIFY THIS IMMEDIATELY

[tropic frost]

Yeah its kinda crazy affordable.

[foggy escarp]

Anyone know difference between 8 and 12 gigs? Can't upgrade later might as well pay it now

[tropic frost]

When the Odin 2 launched there was talk about Switch emulation issues on 8GB. Dont believe that ever turned out to be the case though. For the minimum price difference I'd just go for 12GB

[tropic widget]

Yeah. Plus it'll run android apps and android games longer/better

[robust basin]

what would realistically need 16 gigs of ram

[thick obsidian]

Winlator games maybe

Otherwise nothing

[tender kraken]

Now we see how the tariffs hit...

[tropic widget]

Yeah. Winlator can max ram. People doing crazy things on max portal

[robust basin]

secondary lcd kinda throws me off but for ds/3ds could help with how second screen usually just displays a static image mostly, leaving burn in to not be something to stress about maybe

[tender kraken]

Had the same thought.

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I think they still could have gotten away with OLED. But it's a sacrifice that doesn't bother me much

Maybe only with the lights off and in dark games might it sear the bottom of my retina

[robust basin]

do we know if any other devices use the same lcd screen to guage its quality?

[tropic widget]

Don't think so. But it's Ayaneo. Rarely do they ever use shit panels

[robust basin]

true as well

[tropic widget]

I think 1s DS will be delivered before this ships as well. So if there's issues we should know in time to cancel

[robust basin]

yeah

[tropic frost]

Tempted to know what their tablet will cost now seeing how cheap the Pocket DS is.

[foggy escarp]

Too bad those android games are all f2p gacha stuff😮‍💨

[tropic frost]

You will CONSUUUUM and you will pretend to enjoy it.

[olive dawn]

i am still baffled they have mouse mat with android device , but not with windows one

[grizzled spoke]

how good even is winlator rn

[tropic widget]

Pretty nutty with good hardware

Like you won't be playing the latest games out. But people are running AAA on ok settings

Showstopper tho. Both screens on it locks both displays to 60hz

I def wouldn't bother going above the 12 or maybe even 8 if that's the case

[robust basin]

Their “4x pixel perfect rendering” claim for their bottom screen is only true with DS, not 3ds, tho it covers 4.7 inches at 3x for 3ds which isn’t bad

[grizzled spoke]

wdym by this

wait u gotta turn off the bottom one to get full framerate?

[worthy estuary]

mannn this is so tempting at 430

[grizzled spoke]

if thats the case, bruh

[worthy estuary]

Might be finally time for me to retire my GPD XP+

[solid tundra]

im still on the lookout for an xp plus, oddly 😄

[grizzled spoke]

or is this about winlator with dual screens specifically. that sounds like a software issue

[worthy estuary]

why tho, gpd did it dirty, they nerfed the D1200 on it and never even gave us a single android update

[grizzled spoke]

also why tf is this android 13 on a g3x gen 2

this may be a really old question in this community

[robust basin]

Don’t forget shipping and import fees

[tropic widget]

They have stable older android images. So there's no reason really to upgrade. The G3x gen 2 is probably cause they have stock on the shelves still

[worthy estuary]

if this is 400 with 2 screens, the that konkr will probably start at 300

[tropic widget]

Both screens are locked at 60hz of both are on. In anything. Matters if you wanna use the secondary while doing anything else on primary. Basically gonna be locked to 60

[lunar ingot]

Does anyone know what to expect in terms of tarrifs for us unfortunate americans?

[rigid elbow]

No one knows what to expect tomorrow and you expect anyone to answer that for 2 months from now. C'mon man

[lunar ingot]

Knowing at least tomorrow would be nice 💀

[tropic frost]

Feeling better about the 20% tarrifs the UK has now

[lunar ingot]

I think we're at 20% now, 34% in november? Or like, maybe 139785% all of a sudden if someone needs to feel important

[mild fulcrum]

Where did they confirm this

Do we know if you can turn off the secondary display as well, like if you just want to play something with just the primary display

[mild fulcrum]

Go for 256GB version more for the storage than memory, especially if you plan on doing games like Genshin, ZZZ, Wuthering, etc. Those games are 20-30 GB a pop and you can’t store them on the microSD

I have 128gb on my Retroid Flip 2 and struggle with internal storage

[mild fulcrum]

Why not buy a DNA Duo 😂😂😂

[fervent night]

anyone here selling off both their rp5+flip2 for the pocket ds?

[mild fulcrum]

Maybe 🤔

Will be selling my Odin2 for sure

[fervent night]

i am also maybe....

[mild fulcrum]

Idk about the Flip 2 tho

[daring musk]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-nausea-nauseous-jim-carrey-gif-6414990571697035561

[mild fulcrum]

But I emailed Retroid and cancelled my Dual display orders

[fervent night]

has yours cracked yet?

[mild fulcrum]

Nope fingers crossed 🤞 that

[fervent night]

sell it before it does lol

[mild fulcrum]

I’ve got a black model

Haha if it cracks it’s not a big deal

[fervent night]

i have the dmg. if someone releases a 5.5" oled screen add-on for it, im all set

i also have the black one

[mild fulcrum]

I thought about getting a Pocket Classic

The 6-button one

[fervent night]

i have one too

love it

its all you need for classic emulation

[foggy escarp]

Is that reason for higher weight?

[wicked finch]

When do we think reviewers will get this for a first impressions? The controls don't look great to use with how little room you have it seems

[fervent night]

im a little worried about that dpad

[olive dawn]

that thing is never releaseing lol

[wicked finch]

Yea same

Looks almost impossible to use

3ds ergonomics were terrible so I dont know why they copied it

[quasi bay]

I mean how else are you supposed to place the controls without compromising on bottom screen size

[mild fulcrum]

I have a Miyoo Mini Plus for that already though

[wicked finch]

Maybe pick a smaller 2nd screen?

[quasi bay]

No

[fervent night]

its oled or bust for me. also the 6 button is awesome for fighting games

[silver heath]

Honestly I’ll probably sell my Flip 2 just because of the RDS anyways, much less for this.

[coral panther]

So when comparing the spec of the Odin 2 and its Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chip, and the upcoming AYANEO's Pocket DS' Snapdragon G3x Gen 2... what in theory does the latter gain that my Odin 2 Pro can't from a performance perspective?

[mild fulcrum]

Yeah I’ve become a lot more OLED-pilled lately

I’m ride-or-die for OLED at this point

[silver heath]

Overclocking the GPU to around 1Gz.

[fervent night]

which ones the rds again?

[coral panther]

Is that really that big a leap, compared to getting the Retroid Dual Screen add-on for the Odin 2 Pro? Or is it just an incremental difference?

[quasi bay]

Retroid dual screen attachment

[fervent night]

ah

if i can jank that onto my dmg, id be happy

[silver heath]

Now, once I get it and everything, depending on how small it is and how well it runs, I might end up selling my Odin 2 Portal for it just for the fact that it would serve the same purpose in single top screen mode.

[quasi bay]

The gpu in the g3x gen 2 is the main difference between it and the 8 gen 2, I want to say it's around 50% better iirc

[fervent night]

which ones better

[quasi bay]

G3x gen 2

Cpu wise it's not much faster though

[fervent night]

ah. ive been playing with my dmg over the weekend. the power is addicting....

[daring musk]

Emulation is mostly cpu bound so there's little to no difference in real world performance between the 8 gen 2 and g3x gen 2

[coral panther]

So this is more for Switch tier emulation improvements rather than anything dual screen consoles would benefit from? I'm just thinking if people are so far getting a 4x resolution on 3DS games still using RDS on a Pocket 5, the Odin 2 will happily achieve this as well. So can't see Wii U games not performing well dual screen on an Odin 2 either. Especially the Pro with more RAM under the hood?

[silver heath]

Oh absolutely not, some of these emulators and even specific games in emulators that normally are only cpu intensive definitely want a good GPU.

[tropic widget]

Livestream

[tropic widget]

Yeah. If you turn it off it unlocks higher refresh. But at that point I'd just get a single screen device

Basically just means there's no point in me getting this for android gaming or winlator if I want to push above 60fps

[fervent night]

case in point: turnip drivers

[daring musk]

A good gpu is necessary of course but when we're talking about real world performance between the two chips there hasn't been anything to show that there's any real divide.

[tropic widget]

So I'll go with the 12GB option and just call it a day

It'll still be great for emulating DS and for most game streaming

[fervent night]

my dmg has 16gb, so if i get the pocket ds it has to have at least 16gb too

[tropic widget]

Probably could do 8. But for $40 more. Why not

[coral panther]

The 12GB is what my Odin 2 Pro has currently and handles 3DS / Wii U / Switch happily, and am presuming with the RDS add-on will still happily do so in dual screen mode.

[tropic widget]

Some future proofing for android

[tropic widget]

With a little lag. But yeah

[olive dawn]

shoudl weel fine on Odin 2 😄

[tropic frost]

The lag killed the RDS for me :/

[tropic widget]

Hopefully they can fix that with updates

[olive dawn]

numberswise the lagi the same lol as base Odin2 screen

[coral panther]

But so far it looks like the lag is the screen itself not the hardware its attached to?

[olive dawn]

so far we have no clue

[tropic widget]

Thought it was reversed and the attachment was lagging. Main fine?

I could have understood it wrong

[silver heath]

Same here, the only reason I’m currently debating upgrading for $60 later (since they do let you do that if you want) is because if I do decide to replace my O2P with this, then I’d want to get the 512GB storage.

[coral panther]

Russ' comparisons on his dual screen deep-dive saw that when hooking up to a normal external monitor there was less lag than when using the Retroid Dual Screen option. So I'm hoping it is something that could be firmware altered later down the road by them.

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I'm comfy in microSD land for the most part

[tropic frost]

What if Russ / TechDweeb (Russ in a jumper) are just lying to us!

[fervent night]

oh any statement from aayaneo on the battery life?

[silver heath]

With me I mess with texture packs a lot, and so that builds up a good bit.

[mild fulcrum]

Why? I’d buy this for both, it’s nice/convenient having the second screen when you want to use it

I wouldn’t be exclusively playing dual-screen games on this

But for the times I want to then it’s nice to have the second screen integrated rather than bolted on

[fervent night]

dmg needs the rds so bad. have you guys tried 16:9 on a 4" ~5:4 oled? llol

[daring musk]

Sounds like pain lol

[silver heath]

Oh in general I’m probably just gonna be turning that second screen off regardless and saving it for either the overlay stats, secondary screen stuff, or dual screen, everything except for dual screen being set to low brightness.

[olive dawn]

we only know numbers of baterry

[fervent night]

i cant imagine dual screen lasting long

[olive dawn]

npthing on how much the system as whole eats

and given how extensive the aya app is ... it might eat a lot

[fervent night]

my dmg at full load can eat 15% of 6000mah in 20mins (3dmark benchmark)

[polar jacinth]

How long is the gift box on for? When does it finish?

[daring musk]

If its the same as previous campaigns it will be 7 days iirc

[mild fulcrum]

Seven days. Campaign is 61 days long.

So two months to reconsider and cancel lmao

[coral panther]

I think my logic is sticking with the RDS add-on for now, and let the likes of Ayn, Retroid and Anbernic have their first attempts at dual screen devices before moving on from the Odin 2 and hopefully will see an Odin DS down the road. These current AYANEO dual screen devices still feel a little guinea pig as first gen products.

[fervent night]

i think now theres too many unknowns for me to get hyped over the preorder

-screen latency
-battery life
-dpad

[fervent night]

in those 61 days we will receive 24 anbernic devices

[olive dawn]

dpad is the same as Flip 1s ... so you could check revies of that

[mild fulcrum]

I pre-ordered, I figure more info will trickle out in the next 61 days and I can cancel if I want

[fervent night]

i wish the retro power one had nicer colors

[silver heath]

Yeah, that’s my reasoning as well.

[fervent night]

hmm... then do i preorder one as well lmao

[olive dawn]

yeah was my reasoning for my Windows DS order too 😂

but i dont plan to use that one maimnly for gamin and android wouldnt fly .. casue the apps i want to use it for are x86

[fervent night]

so 60 days to cancel preorder?

[silver heath]

Pretty much, they’re shipping these to consumers in October (I think mid-late, but I guess it could also be early), and they almost always send review units a good couple weeks before then (sometimes even a whole month).

[fervent night]

hmmm.... its either my money goes to this or to a hx370 onexfly

[frank ingot]

if you look back at the video, watch arthur play 3ds mario kart... and check the latency.. you'll be surprise... ops, i say nothing, ignore me..

[silver heath]

Surprised good or surprised bad?

Couldn’t catch the entirety of the stream.

[frank ingot]

watch how long mario kart jump and drift after pressing trigger.

[foggy escarp]

I never laughed so hard in weeks

That was default

[silver heath]

Oh never ignore the Indiegogo tip, you gotta be careful to change that to $0.

[olive dawn]

i feel thats compeltely different usecase and pricerange between the two 😄

[foggy escarp]

Is storage bag included? Or do I buy it separately

[fervent night]

yeah it is lol. but i already have so many android devices and not a definitive windows handheld

[olive dawn]

if you buy within a week than yes

[silver heath]

It’s included for everyone that pre-orders within the first week of being available.

[fervent night]

im choosing between the 16/512 and the 16/1tb.....

[olive dawn]

i am still missing few "definitive android usecases" 😄 But pretty satisfied where i am at windows wise

[fervent night]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-rabbithole-falling-tumbling-bye-gif-5308157

[olive dawn]

yes 😄

[tropic widget]

Because it just seems like a waste of features for me. I'd just get a cheaper device with single screen instead. And buy the cheaper model pocket ds

[silver heath]

Wait what?

[fervent night]

the dmg has pretty much been my endgame vertical. but with all that power, makes me want a proper 16:9 screen. so really i just need a rds

[tropic widget]

I'm not saying don't buy the pocket DS at all. Just no point in buying the maxed out model if they're locking you down anyway

[foggy escarp]

Thanks

[silver heath]

Look, dude I get the Yellow looks great, but I don’t think it’s worth $600.

[tropic widget]

Unless you need the storage of course

Which isn't my use case. But I get it for those reasons

[foggy escarp]

I'd get retro snes color. But I don't wanna spend extra 300 dollars

[tropic widget]

I want it just for its smudge protection 😆. But worst case I'll just get a skin made

[silver heath]

Yeah, storage is the main reason I’d get the max one. And if I somehow happen to get $100 completely for free before they ship, then I might be willing to go further to the Yellow for both the looks and the 1TB, but absolutely not in any other circumstances.

[fervent night]

id rather have all black, but it'll have at least 1tb of storage. either way i would want minimum 16gb ram

[olive dawn]

this almost feels like the bottom screen is behind

[tropic widget]

He's gonna max those 60hz displays hard

[frank ingot]

not sure this is emulator latency or display latency or both together

releasing trigger and receiving drift boost speed feels like 1~2frame

[tropic widget]

Yeah. A lot going on

[silver heath]

Ah fair enough.

[frank ingot]

try to count as soon as he release trigger, how long it takes for mariokart to boostspeed

[silver heath]

…Oh god damnit, do you happen to have like a YouTube clip of that or something. I swear, the framerate of this gif is so low I can’t even tell when he’s actually pressing the trigger for the drift.

[frank ingot]

just look at release, pressing is very hard to see

[tropic widget]

It's the release that matters. Right trigger

There's def a delay there. But it could be a combo of things

Honestly the 16gb isn't a bad deal either. But eventually you hit the slippery slope

Have to stick with 12

[fervent night]

if you dont mess with winlator, theres no use for the 16gb

[tropic widget]

Tru

[fervent night]

unless maybe with the dual screen you'll be using more apps concurrently?

but even then

[tropic widget]

I have enough x86 with bigger screens for anything like that. Don't think I'd mess with it all just to get it on a DS

Would if this was gonna be my replace all decice

[polar jacinth]

Arghh! Do i really need this. 😅 i have an evo, dmg, micro and s2 (soon). Plus Y700 gen 4 😅 tough decisions. Fomo is really kicking in

[tropic widget]

But I'll probably grab a konkr fit x86 as a steam deck mini anyway

[olive dawn]

imo the ergo isnt there for tzhat

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I really just want it for retro DS

[olive dawn]

i ahve some comfy devices 😄

playing something that requires dpad and right stick on Pocket DS/Flip 1S

[fervent night]

from your devices, yes. because its an ayaneo device

[olive dawn]

sounds like hell for my hands

[tropic widget]

12GB gives a comfy enough cushion for that. Plus some android gaming

[fervent night]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[silver heath]

Don’t say that now, I’m still debating not getting it and that just makes it more tempting.

[tropic widget]

Sigh. Indigogo refund button always broken

Hate the stupid tip they sneak in

[fervent night]

i think i have no need for dual screens........

[tropic widget]

Lol

[frank ingot]

you'll never know you need one until you tried it yourself

[tropic widget]

I'd use the shit out of it. Which is why the 60hz lock matters more to me

[fervent night]

what would you use it for outside of ds?

[tropic widget]

I'd still be tempted to jump to the 1s if the 8840u came back in stock

[frank ingot]

i used to think 1 monitor is enough, until i got 2, then i got 3, then i got 4. FU-

[tropic widget]

Looking up guides and walkthrough while I play mostly

Twitch/YouTube in the background otherwise

[silver heath]

Yeah, it would be neat if they were able to make it so that there’s a separate 60hz toggle that still technically uses 120hz but specifically for instead lowering input lag.

[tropic widget]

At that point I'd take 30/90 if it was a throughput limitation. But I guess the chipset itself might be locked to 2 displays at 60

[silver heath]

Like, one of the really neat parts of the Odin 2 Portal’s 120hz and the reason I usually don’t even go down to 60hz is because of the fact that it legit lowers the native input latency for the O2P by a good bit.

[tropic widget]

Like if I'm using the bottom for a guide or webpage I don't really need 60

[silver heath]

So like, if it’s possible for them to make a “120hz/60fps” toggle for dual screen mode that is distinctly separate from actual 60hz, that would genuinely be great.

[frank ingot]

now i am wondering if odin 2 portal could attach a retroid external screen.

if it can run 120hz while still output a screen to external screen, then i'm sold

[tropic widget]

Yeah. I imagine the 60 thing was just the only way they could keep them synced

[polar jacinth]

Grrrrr

Look what you did

🤣

[fervent night]

you picked the wrong one

[polar jacinth]

Im fine with 12GB

😅

[fervent night]

why be fine when you can be GREAT

[silver heath]

Yup, which is why if it’s in any way possible for them to do a toggle that makes the screen hardware run at 120hz while the software of the outputted top screen display is limited to 60fps (to stay synced with the bottom screen), then that would actually be perfect for me.

[fervent night]

jk

[fervent night]

which colorways?

gotta get matching

[silver heath]

And I say toggle simply because it would still be nice to have native 60hz also be available just for increasing battery life if you’re playing something that doesn’t need the reduced input latency.

[polar jacinth]

All black. So all matching

[fervent night]

ah ok

not retro power? lol

💸

[polar jacinth]

Yeah money is a big factor 😅

Im happy with my choice

[fervent night]

luckily the retro power on this ds isnt so great

[polar jacinth]

Yeah 👍 thanks for persuading me 🤣 another aya for the collection

[fervent night]

have you modded either the EVO or DMG's thermal pads?

[polar jacinth]

Yep! All done. Did not enjoy that

Terrible at opening things up

[fervent night]

it was unnerving at first

i hate deforming the case to get to clips

and ribbon cables can be so delicate

specifically their interface

press it down the wrong way and poof something isnt working anymore lol

[tight cape]

They need to make that grey available in the cheaper options.

[fervent night]

they need to make proper retro power with cream

wonder what the performance difference will be between G3x gen 2 and G3 gen 3

[tepid verge]

This is for a stylus to draw on?

[daring musk]

That's something I want to test when I get mine

[agile surge]

500 backers already, this is selling above average for Ayaneo

[mild crystal]

$800 android console 🤣

[polar jacinth]

Rather than getting the free tshirt. I asked for a spare back shell instead. Took a while but they agreed and sent me one for the evo

So when the OG breaks. I will just swap it over

[fervent night]

i just wanna buy the red face buttons

[quasi bay]

I remember people telling me there wasn't enough demand for a dual screen handheld

[silver heath]

No shit. I want that Yellow without having to pay $100-$160 extra.

[tepid verge]

So when is ayn gonna release their dual screen handheld? 🥹

[quasi bay]

Probably not for a while (never)

[tropic widget]

Pretty sure its a fancy way of saying, plastic screen protector

[quasi bay]

Ayaneo has supposedly been working on this for over a year, and only announced it recently, if Ayn wants to undercut them they better work quickly

[silver heath]

I think they’re at most aiming to undercut the Konkr.

[quasi bay]

Yeah, that's more their lane

[silver heath]

Maybe they’d also undercut this at the same time by making the Odin 3 come with a proprietary dual screen add-on (like one that is molded to fit seamless with the Odin 3), that lets it function similarly to native dual screen Android devices?

[quasi bay]

I wouldn't mind a screen attachment with the odin 2 portal screen

[silver heath]

But this is also dependent on them doing so, and I don’t really think I can see that happening.

[wicked finch]

Since this is selling well, might actually see some good grips for this thing on Etsy and whatnot

Would help with dpad ergonomics especially

[sacred ether]

I wanna buy this so bad but its just so not worth it lol

[tepid verge]

[quasi bay]

Makes sense, pretty sure the onexsugar top screen is also limited by the bottom screen refresh rate

Since they're considered one screen

[mossy flicker]

16g/512gb early bird for $501 has sold out

the replacement is now $621

[fervent night]

fomooooooo

is this ayaneos best indigogo campaign?

[silver heath]

Jesus Christ, already?!

Damn, guess I missed out on being able to upgrade then. Well, maybe upgrading is counted differently and I’d still only need to pay $60 since I got the EB 12G/256gb option and that technically would apply my EB order status?

[olive dawn]

i mean people have been waiting for soemthing like this for years

its been kinda obvious its gonan be big

[fervent night]

do i get yellow or grey

[olive dawn]

obviosuld the most expensive one

[silver heath]

Holy shit so many more people are ordering the Retro Gray than the Yellow.

[olive dawn]

you need to get your fomo some food

[quasi bay]

Retro gray is nice

[silver heath]

Why? It looks so good and it’s $40 less.

[quasi bay]

Crazy how the 2nd highest config sold out first though

I thought it would've been the 8g model

[silver heath]

Dude, the cheapest option is the worst selling.

[wise anvil]

cuz they have brainwashed their users

[quasi bay]

I mean double the ram and 4x the storage for only 100 more is pretty good I guess

[silver heath]

Like holy shit this is actually paradoxical from what usually goes down.

[quasi bay]

But damn

Ayaneo fans are different

[fervent night]

gad damn. $933 cad lmao

no i cant do it

[silver heath]

No, it’s different from that too, usually it’s the exact same “cheapest option sells out quickest” situation!

[fervent night]

ill just wait out for a acreen add-on for the dmg

[silver heath]

This is unique even for AYANEO.

[olive dawn]

i mean the +4GB ram one was jsut 40$ more

so makes sense

[silver heath]

Like man, maybe a smaller and cheaper dual-IPS handheld’s gonna be next for Konkr if it does this well.

[olive dawn]

hopefully

but take it few minths ... i need to rebuild my YOLO funds 😄

[silver heath]

…What did you get?

[fervent night]

i treid to buy, got credit card fraud text that stopped it. i said it was me, then i can buy it now. but seeing it as $900+ i just cant do it lmao

[wise anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-17727307282149840610

[quasi bay]

Anbernic please

I need a smaller version of this

[olive dawn]

flip 1s 8840u for myself, new DJ board for my gf and 2 sets of tyres for our car (each cosnoted more than the flip)

[finite quest]

Personally I like it better than the yellow, plus the most expensive config always ships first

[robust anvil]

I'll state my case. This is the exact form factor that I have been waiting for since I started following this retro scene. Now that it's here, I'm all in, and this would be my endgame device (as long as it doesn't break).

[silver heath]

Well, at the very least, if it turns out I can’t upgrade without paying $180 more for the non-EB Black one, I guess that’ll be the perfect excuse to get the Yellow instead since it would be $20 less for double the internal storage, if I decide I really do want to replace my Odin 2 Portal with this (and hey, it’ll even be like I got the Odin 2 Portal Max).

[opal hazel]

I actually had sone self control this tine and wont be ordering even though I want one pretty bad .

[quasi bay]

I was all over this until i realized how heavy it was going to be, I still kind of want one though

[silver heath]

I usually carry my current device in a shoulder bag regardless, so I’ll be more than fine.

[olive dawn]

for me the main red flag here was how many of the SW side they have shown today has "not finishedn , maybe through OTA later"

i dont liek to be betatester anymore (i work as one for 5 years)

[silver heath]

Hopefully the fact the Retro Gray seems way more popular will mean the EB Yellow will still be available by the time I decide to try and upgrade.

[olive dawn]

• i am kidna hoping one of the compeititors will bring liter version of this idea (closer to my ideal) in upcoming months/years

[silver heath]

Of course, if I can upgrade to the 512GB option for only $60, I’m absolutely gonna do that instead.

[simple axle]

Yeah hoping Retroid does something like this

[olive dawn]

i dont care who 😄 similarly as i am waiting for Arc pro i will be waiting for this

[silver heath]

…And now the EB 12g/256gb is sold out.

With 8g/128gb EB still only having 25 orders in.

And Yellow is still at 75, so I’ve still got my backup at least.

[hallow timber]

That’s only matters to the Chinese buyers since they get it earlier. For us, they should have already finished most of the planned software features by mid-October

[silver heath]

…Why is there 3 orders for the $621 retail 16g/512gb options?!

[wise anvil]

because you cant change a stock number once you set it on indiegogo

they have to add a new option once it sells out

[silver heath]

Wait, so you think we can upgrade to 16GB, and those 3 are people who already did that?

[opal hazel]

Don’t the regularly add more stock if the EB specials sell out ?

[wise anvil]

oh i tyhought you meant 3 identical options lol

as far as im aware you cant add stock to existing items tho

you have to add a new item, even if its identical

[olive dawn]

Hopefully

[fervent night]

Will there be rds for pocket ds?

Three screens is better than two

[vestal dawn]

Guess I missed most of the beefy options.
...though they are kind of pricey.
Wanted a bit more RAM for future Winlator/potential Steam ARM reasons.

[mild fulcrum]

Early bird gets the worm

LFG

Realtalk, I’ve been talking about and wanting this form-factor for years now, and Ayaneo finally went and made it. Of course I’m gonna put my money where my mouth is, I want to send a signal with my wallet that this is the kind of device I want, that we all want.

[vestal dawn]

I figure if I can't reasonably get the model with the most RAM I might as well just wait for a cheaper dual screen device that might better fit in a pocket.

...though maybe I'll at least back a model and figure it out in the next 60 days.

[finite quest]

This might be one of their fastest selling IGG campaigns I’ve seen

[vernal spire]

Price is ok but its still a lot of money and there are a lot of unknowns about this .I have gone the cheap route on this and ordered the retroid screen for others hopefully it will work on odin portal and antec slide thus giving me both android and pc usage.It could of course not work on either but its a $74 gamble.

[proven void]

i hope it supports creating app combinations like on samsung phones/tablets

[neon flicker]

This is super cool. can't wait for the second version with dual OLEDs

[proven void]

just instead of the multitask within one screen it'd be deciding which goes top and bottom and open both at once

[fervent night]

🤣

thank you credit card for making me think twice

[placid quest]

I totally agree. I did the same. Ordered the second screen back when it came out.

Figured I try dual screen with android first and see how this works out before investing in an expensive dual screen handheld that may not work properly.

[hoary zinc]

If they did what many other IGG campaigns do and raised the next "bucket" of pricing tiers by $20 or so, I think they'd get even more buy-in. The 16GB + 512GB being $500 for the first 200 and then jumping a staggering $120 straight to retail price has got to be putting a lot of people off (myself included). Being $20 less than the highest tiered gray model at EB, which has twice the internal storage, is some silly stuff.

[simple axle]

Some of my fave parts of the indiegogo page

ouch input and coo hands

[silver heath]

God damnit, I fucked up!

I saw the EB 16GB was available so I canceled the 12GB and tried ordering it, but the order didn’t go through because someone else ordered it before me, and then by the time I got back someone claimed the 12GB I canceled.

Now I’m stuck with 8GB until AYANEO responds back and lets me know if I can upgrade to the 16GB or not.

[warped rapids]

They just put up 200 new 12/256 at early bird

[wicked finch]

Same price too

[hoary zinc]

Yep, very happy to see this

[subtle apex]

Wish they'd communicate better with these things

Luckily waited and snagged a 512

[hoary zinc]

I wonder if they're surprised by the number of backers Day One, especially considering the numbers for the Pocket S2

[subtle apex]

I'm surprised they added the same amount for the retro grey, thought it was supposed to be "limited" 😂

[silver heath]

Great, now my card won’t let me get either of the more expensive options since it’s still processing the charges and refunds for the 12GB, so I can only order the 8GB option. I guess I’ll just have to ask if I can pay separately for the upgrade?

[warped rapids]

Probably couldn't hurt to try depending how fast they respond

Or use another card

[silver heath]

God, how did I end up in a situation where not doing anything would’ve been infinitely better?

[vestal dawn]

Looks like they added 200 more of the 16/512 blacks too.

[warped rapids]

Yeah 600 total. Grey too

[silver heath]

Yup, I tried ordering that first.

[vestal dawn]

Well now I'm back to needing to decide if I want it or not.

[warped rapids]

We probably won't see most of these till after the new year

Aya is SLOW...

[silver heath]

I almost definitely won’t considering I went from order #343 to #11XX…

[wicked finch]

Its almost sold out again

Wtf

[warped rapids]

Yeah jumping out of line and losing 800 places

[silver heath]

Yeah, fuck trying anything else, I’m just contacting them and upgrading via that way and leaving it for that alone, all doing it “the standard way for Indiegogo” did was royally things fuck up.

[warped rapids]

They still have plenty left

It's going to be interesting how Aya handles having 2000+ orders

[wicked finch]

Oh weird I see that now

[warped rapids]

Those 12/256 are popping back up because people are canceling

[vestal dawn]

Yeah, it's a new listing of additional units, I don't think they can add more units to an existing perk.

[silver heath]

I’m hopeful that once I can talk to a representative, I can explain the situation and somehow reclaim the shipping time for my original 343 order.

[frank ingot]

This might be the fastest ayaneo indiegogo campaign

[warped rapids]

Best to temper expectations with Aya. I hope people know this could be a very long bumpy ride

[silver heath]

If not…Yeah, I’ll be joining all the others on only seeing this well after New Years.

[wicked finch]

Esp getting in day 1

[warped rapids]

Best chances are usually ordering the top end model if you want it earlier

It's not just order number

[silver heath]

Yup, that I already know, hence why I’m hopeful I can communicate with them about this.

[warped rapids]

Yeah I'd definitely try to communicate with them. It can't hurt

[silver heath]

Well, except for the fact that they’re currently looking at more than 200 of the Early Bird options for 12GB and 16GB Black alongside Grey.

I wonder if they might actually end up having to hire extra third party help to handle shipments, cause this is staggeringly more than they’re likely used to.

[warped rapids]

I'm bummed about the 60hz/60hz thing. Because I'd primarily be streaming with it so the second screen would be off a lot. I wanted to use that second screen while streaming to watch YouTube etc

And streaming at 60hz is horrible

[mild fulcrum]

The 60/60Hz isn't a deal-breaker for me

Yeah, I'd prefer the main display to be always 165Hz, but 60Hz OLED is fine

Is it Ayaneo's fault, or the fault of Android? It's an Android limitation.

[warped rapids]

I'll probably ride out the pre order but it definitely took my excitement down a few notches

[slender flame]

how easy is it to cancel?

[warped rapids]

It's easy

[mild fulcrum]

I'm curious - when using something like the Retroid Display with the Odin Portal, does the Portal's display go down to 60Hz?

[warped rapids]

I believe it does yeah. It locks it to the lowest one

[silver heath]

I would personally heavily advise it* if you do still want to get it and are not completely sure you want to cancel.

[slender flame]

the thing holding me back is i have an odin 2 portal, but wouldnt mind jumping in on a black 16gb then cancelling later

preorder now, decide later

[silver heath]

Like, you can if you really want to, but I definitely recommend thinking it through before you do anything like that.

[warped rapids]

Yep order now and cancel later is the smart move here

[silver heath]

Do not end up like me…

[warped rapids]

I can promise you there's going to be tons of cancellations

Once people realize this campaign will take forever to fulfill

[slender flame]

im mostly interested in the early bird price

[mild fulcrum]

This isn't Ayaneo's first rodeo though

Nor is it their first dual-display device

[warped rapids]

They have the worst record for getting devices out on time

Even after 22 campaigns

So people should be prepared