2025 XU Product Slate

[chrome fiber]

teleportation

smh my head they're going to use the cross pacific slingshot

obviously

[livid herald]

Dragon mechs /lh

[glad oriole]

xu20 v32 final version shell

[stark stirrup]

Looks great

[bronze yew]

Black survived

but it ain't transparent anymore?

[frigid condor]

we got an official XU representative now?

[rare junco]

Oh great we have three translucent options now? Looks like I'm gonna have to buy three.

[bronze yew]

just Seans alt

[frigid condor]

or get 2 of your friends to buy one and trade whenever you feel like it

[frigid condor]

for all we know, breeze could be one too

[glad oriole]

The black transparency is not transparent enough, and needs to be adjusted

The black transparency is not transparent enough, and needs to be adjusted

[frigid condor]

Will the final black color be close to the black in this picture?

[bronze yew]

next device, a XU30 DS with two of these screens

[glad oriole]

The black transparency is not transparent enough, and needs to be adjusted

[frigid condor]

I see

[glad oriole]

XU30 plans to have two devices, V36 and H35

[frigid condor]

willing to tell us what the h35 aspect ratio is?

[zealous jolt]

Anyone in the US wanna buy an XU20 and trade me for my extra zero28? I want to pick one up but don’t need a third A133P device 😅

[frigid condor]

is it hand-assembled

[zealous jolt]

Foot assembled actually

[frigid condor]

[zealous jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-socks-gross-disgusting-foot-gif-9320555

[rare junco]

Ok great. So four it is.

[rare junco]

Why did you take this video outside in the rain 😂

[frigid condor]

where else would he take this video?

inside?

[glad oriole]

The video was sent to us by MagicX and then forwarded to us.

[frigid condor]

Sean has some explaining to do

I notice that the DS game playing on the XU20 shows the emulator having an overlay on it

[zealous jolt]

Yup, if I’m not mistaken one can add any overlay they want to drastic>backgrounds

[chrome fiber]

Is that like the wise sage of the super sp

Except the wise sage of the xu20

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[burnt current]

I quite like the pink

[zealous jolt]

I quite like all of them tbh

Well all of them except black

[solemn pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-black-black-guy-bruhh-gif-11584017571281850768

They’ll change black though, make it more transparent

[solemn pumice]

here

[zealous jolt]

Yea I’m just not the biggest fan of black/transparent black, it’s a little too boring. But the purple/bluegreen/pink look amazing, I love how vibrant the colors are

[solemn pumice]

Fair fair

[frigid condor]

3 out of 4 good colors, fuck we’re going to be broke

[zealous jolt]

They really knew how to hit us in the wallet this time

[bronze yew]

the color options are certainly good and the "teal" tempts me to abandon black for once

[zealous jolt]

Yea the teal was my favorite at first too, but now that pink might have stolen my top pick

[frigid condor]

I wonder if MagicX had all of the colors made before the color poll

It would’ve helped the poll if the pictures were irl

[solemn pumice]

There’s always gotta be a black for the masses

It’s just such a safe choice

Even if it wouldn’t win a poll here people would still buy it

[frigid condor]

yeah

The cooler color choices are for the enthusiasts

[zealous jolt]

I was thinking that too… ain’t no way they made these final versions in that short of time right?

[frigid condor]

i figure they have to make sure the colors right so

[clever verge]

They should have gone Rainbow and Released them all

[fiery panther]

The green one is going to be closer to the Blue Green you guys showed?

[bronze yew]

that's what I have been trying to teach Sean for a while

[bronze yew]

yeah, it ain't the Leafgreen but the dunno I would rather call it Teal at this point

Leafgreen and the more Atomic-Purple looking one fell through on the color pool

[burnt current]

I can't tell if the deep blue is actually more of a purple colour or not

[plucky halo]

Best green ever

[bronze yew]

you doing CFW for that one?

[fiery panther]

Atomic green

Hell yeah

[plucky halo]

Nuclear / Toxic Green 🤣 or Green Apple

[fiery panther]

Btw what cfw do you work on?

Is it Amber elec? The colors of your name look similar

[plucky halo]

They already have one i'm just repackaging their mod 🤣

[bronze yew]

there already is one? haven't seen a build on the ArkOS git yet

[plucky halo]

fork of arkos for r36s you can also change the color of your name to anything in here 😁

[plucky halo]

#1372840334031327334 message

[fiery panther]

I meant your profile pic but alright lol

Do they support a133p?

[bronze yew]

sometimes I really loath the threads, because I didn't even find that when searching

[burnt current]

Is Dawn in a state where Gamma is a lot less needed on this?

[zealous jolt]

Dawn? Maybe, that's up to personal preference. But the stock android operating system, I find much easier to navigate than Gamma, theres also less overall issues. So pair stock android with daijisho and you got the best of both worlds

[fiery panther]

Dawn is fine

And gets updates like every week or 2

Breeze develops it as a paid job, while Gamma is just a hobby, so the development on the Zero 28 might be slow (since he is also making the TSP version)

[bronze yew]

is it really just a hobby with Gamma, the madlad is always cooking something up, already has lineage OS running on the 477m for example

[fiery panther]

A very passionate hobby indeed lol

[bronze yew]

as I already said in the 477m thread, he totally has a CFW sweatshop in his basement

[fiery panther]

Lmao

Anyway

Hope we see the XU20 on AliExpress

So we avoid any dumb shipping methods and stuff

[burnt current]

Actually, now that I think about it

Gamma is primarily a thing for handhelds without a touch screen

This actually does have one

[burnt current]

I think Glaswegians are simply built different tbh

[chrome fiber]

It's so pretty

[devout thorn]

this would have been so tempting if i hadnt just got the brick hammer

[chrome fiber]

Exactly smash your brick with that hammer and come buy this

Can you mail me the hammer afterwards I need to beat my own brick

[devout thorn]

[rare junco]

Well if your XU20 screen breaks you know you already have a spare screen, protected by a fancy metal case.

[glad oriole]

Regarding the TF card that comes with the XU20 V32, people think that all black cards are of poor quality. In fact, black cards are divided into different chips. The one we use is a SanDisk chip black card, which has the same stability as the brand card and has a read and write speed that exceeds A1.

[frigid condor]

where do you supply your sd cards from?

[sinful mortar]

brb looking up prices on laser engraver units that can do font that small /s

[frigid condor]

[glad oriole]

There are many sales companies in Shenzhen, China that specialize in providing TF cards.

[frigid condor]

anyways i have a miyoo mini whose sd card came with one with a similar marking on the back, but the front just said "64GB" with a sandisk background

[sinful mortar]

Soooo do you do any validation tests for write durabilty or failure rates on said cards on a rolling basis or is it just because they said they use good controller/nand

[frigid condor]

validation testing would help ease some fears about the sd cards

[glad oriole]

Advanced black cards have special equipment to detect

[sinful mortar]

no do YOU verify

I dont care what they say they're selling you

[frigid condor]

it might be a translation error

[sinful mortar]

For a company with a brand thats been sold faked SoC's in the past I hope you take this a bit more seriously
(For reference the XU10 being sold as RK3326S when it was RK3326)
I understand its basically a company/management now but this is the history that you're going to have to deal with

[frigid condor]

Luna's still getting used to using discord

[bronze yew]

I don't trust these SD cards at all and never will

[frigid condor]

@glad oriole i assume you're manually translating our messages so i suggest you should try installing vencord so you can download a translation plugin

i think @humble eagle is using a modified version of discord to do just that

i might be wrong but it looked like that

[glad oriole]

Black cards for R36 are the cheapest. They are not tested after production and are directly put into the card copying machine. Therefore, many of these black cards have problems.

[fiery panther]

Question now that you're here
Is the green shell going to be more Blue Green like in the renders? Or that's the final color?

[frigid condor]

the issue is that magicx used to use the same black cards too, and there used to be reports of xu mini ms not booting after a day because those cards would just break

[fiery panther]

Self destruct function

[frigid condor]

we don't really know if the cards you're using are any different

[sinful mortar]

At the end of the day if they have the option to sell without the cards its more of just a noobie trap

[fiery panther]

Kioxia should be the minimum.

Then SanDisk

[frigid condor]

good thing is that there is an option for a no card version

[fiery panther]

And the best of the best, Samsung

[fiery panther]

Kingston SDs are good too

Are on pair with SanDisk

[sinful mortar]

afaik they're basically the same company now anyway

[frigid condor]

people are still really skeptical of the sandisk and kioxia cards magicx is using right now, but i've heard no problems about them and i think people are willingly using these devices with the out of the box setup

i feel it benefits them especially in the future because no one else is doing that, even anbernic is steering away from branded cards now

[sinful mortar]

oh I use the black cards in my 3D printers and non critical things for write failures.
They all fail its just a matter of how long (most in short order maybe a few hundred MB of small transfers)

I dont buy near as many handheld with cards included so its not like its been alot tho

[frigid condor]

i don't normally touch the cards that come with my devices

i've used the card that came with my miyoo mini once to install windows for a friend but that was it

[glad oriole]

Now I will release the real situation of the matching TF card. Whether it is good or bad will ultimately be decided by the users.

[zealous jolt]

I’ve only seen a small handful of peoples kioxia cards get corrupted, definitely nowhere near the failure rate of a generic card tho

[burnt current]

Glad the topic of SD cards came up

[burnt current]

Because of this image, I thought they'd still be using Kioxia cards

[frigid condor]

i wish

[ivory meteor]

Sooo any news on the XU40?

[jolly kettle]

Will the voltage of the sd card slot support UHS-I?

As in 1.8V

[fervent solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-radioactive-man-ny-eyes-goggles-do-nothing-gif-12845538

[glad oriole]

Samsung chip's black card measured data

SanDisk's black card measured data

Please test your previous black card data and compare it

[north dove]

I love how this looks aside from the large bezels. Still not the worst I’ve seen, though. At least they’re accurately represented unlike some other devices with large bezels

[woven shell]

I would adore the design if only it had a stick somewhere

Or better yet, a slider

[zealous jolt]

True. At least they have that button you hold to turn the dpad into “analog” input

We need more sliders though

[fiery panther]

At least some emulators allows for a stick on screen

[woven shell]

if nothing else it should be a pretty neat ds emulator

[slim gale]

You might consider giving people the option to purchase a not black card. I guarantee whatever the cost difference is there will be people willing to pay it to get a name brand. Even if your black cards are name brand equivalent people have been conditioned to not trust them and will probably replace them or buy a device without it

[fiery panther]

So

Those cards are just from brands but without any print on them?

Or what

[sinful mortar]

Same nand as better cards they claim, asked about write durability testing and got 3x 1GB write speed testing instead

[fiery panther]

Bruh

[frigid condor]

to be fair they probably misunderstand you

[fiery panther]

Or they are hiding something

[sinful mortar]

I can only write things so many and simple ways

thats on them

[fiery panther]

I would buy no card

No console even

[sinful mortar]

If they market as being equivalent to some name brand card it will reflect poorly on them if they start failing.

[fiery panther]

Ok not that far

And with the name "Xu" they might start losing trust in costumers

[sinful mortar]

I mentioned the XU10 thing as well yeah

🤷‍♂️

[fiery panther]

Both XU10 and Mini M were sold with fake advertisements

But at least the Mini M is good enough

A budget 351P

[sinful mortar]

And could reasonably not be associated since it wasnt an 'XU' device

[fiery panther]

It is

[sinful mortar]

frankly most people probably dont remember the XU10 either

[fiery panther]

Xu Mini M is the full name

[sinful mortar]

Oh I know magicX/XU was the same thing but most people wouldnt

[fiery panther]

It is sold as Xu Mini M

So yeah they can't risk any failures now with that name

[sinful mortar]

ah thought it was just magicX mini m

guess thats only the zero28

[fiery panther]

Yes

MagicX Zero 28 and MagicX Zero 40

[sinful mortar]

well my confidence is at an all time low should be an easy win for them eh

[fiery panther]

I'll probably just use an A1 card I have laying around

[frigid condor]

sd cards are a common misgiving of Chinese handheld manufacturers it shouldn’t be this hard to stand out

[sinful mortar]

yeah by just getting kioxia cards

[frigid condor]

literally anything

use fucking hp cards for fuck sakes I don’t care

[bronze yew]

honestly, they are doing android handhelds... let's do 16gb internal storage

[frigid condor]

16GB eMMC is really frustrating

[livid herald]

Playing the N64 library (and some PS1 or Saturn titles with analog control) like it's Mario 64 DS's weird touchscreen mode

(I actually have tried that mode on actual DS hardware. Kind of an unusual experience, heh)

[clever verge]

To further help explain this to the General Public in a way they can understand.....

eMMC Read/Write Speed on similarly priced Handhelds is between 8-12 Mbs. Is that really what you guys want vs just a 2nd SD card slot?

[livid herald]

You know, has Biwin (the guys making "HP" brand RAM, SSDs, and memory cards) provided their cards to handheld manus before?

[frigid condor]

not that I know of

I think PNY makes the HP cards though

[frigid condor]

Not to mention Android is really not made to sideload everything to an “external SD card”

16GB eMMC really limits you when installing games or using certain frontends like Beacon and Daijishou

[clever verge]

eMMC is terrible, either give me 2 SD card Slots or Stright up Internal Storage like the Big Android devices. No inbetween please

[frigid condor]

give me 128gb ufs and better or nothing

[clever verge]

I wish my 4 pro had 256gb lol

[frigid condor]

[clever verge]

You edited

[frigid condor]

you caught me

[clever verge]

Sneaky kitty

Oh god....I need to get back to Wii U testing on my 4 pro at some point

[frigid condor]

why did you stop

[clever verge]

I joined up with UnofficialOS and was helping with the G350. Also helped Pauly with 3 different Rocknix Builds for the G350. And I'm a Spruce dev

[frigid condor]

[clever verge]

The G350 just felt so good

I couldn't stop playing amd helping get more CFW on it

[frigid condor]

… so you’re saying if someone makes a shitty vt568 handheld with a good shell you’ll bring CFW to it?

[clever verge]

I'm saying, the xu20 is appealing to me based on looks so far. But I'm with poor eye sight, so it's up to the rest of Spruce to jump on this one

3.2" screenvis too small for these old eyes

[frigid condor]

my eyes are shit too and I’m not even old

these handhelds are going to have some serious screen inflation in the future

[clever verge]

3.5" is my Minimum except for the Miyoo A30. Amd that was for Dev Testing lol. 1 sd card between all our devices. Super cool feature

[frigid condor]

1 sd card between all of our devices. Super cool feature

[clever verge]

Yea, straight up. Just pull out the SD card out of any Spruce device and Share it between any other Spruce supported device. 0 issues. Brick, TSP, A30, Miyoo Flip. Works Flawlessly

[frigid condor]

woah woah woah

I’m out of the loop it’s on the Trimui devices now?

[clever verge]

Yes, Spruce Alpha 4.0 is now on TrimUI Brick, Smart Pro (Least Supported, NGL), Flip, & A30

[zealous jolt]

Fuck emmc, if something goes wrong during an update then you have to deal with bs unbricker tools. With the operating system on an sd card if it bricks you just flash a new one and pop it in

I’m a bit late to the party but I had to shit on emmc too lol

[fiery panther]

Let's hope the Tone35 doesn't struggle with that

Maybe that's why it is taking too long

They want to polish it at maximum so they don't have to update it

Only Dawn

[woven shell]

0 issues (except all of the issues)

[glad oriole]

The real thing is very beautiful

[burnt current]

Could you tell us what this is?

[glad oriole]

Direction keys and joystick switch key

[jolly kettle]

This'll be good for light android gaming in a pocketable form factor

There's some good games that run well on low end hardware

[glad oriole]

The joystick will light up, but the direction keys will not light up.

[jolly kettle]

Half-life, undertale (yes, there's an unofficial native android port of undertale that uses the pc game files)

[burnt current]

Very nice

[jolly kettle]

Stardew valley aswell

[burnt current]

It's all good, man

[frigid condor]

look at my boy

gimme

[fiery panther]

Very interesting console

Green looks nice

But seems like it is leaf green instead of blue green

[fiery panther]

The back/home button is by sliding the bar up or how?

[zealous jolt]

I think I remember seeing a G button somewhere

Think it’s this one

[fiery panther]

Man that space purple looks so tempting

Better than the green one

[bronze yew]

that's probably the power button

[zealous jolt]

Powers on the back

[fiery panther]

And it will match the MainUI theme, which is purple

[bronze yew]

the G button is most likely in the back

[bronze yew]

that would be weirdly different from the XU10, but welp, who cares

[zealous jolt]

Nope that’s power

If you zoom in

[fiery panther]

That's a quite unique design huh

[zealous jolt]

Most definitely

[bronze yew]

fair enough, seems to be power

[fiery panther]

Even if Xu is the company of classic style consoles
It feels kinda like the crazy shit that MagicX would made

[burnt current]

Would be good if Luna could post the results of a comparison test between the SD cards they're using and the SanDisk cards available to consumers

[bronze yew]

I mean, XU was their brand under which they released the XU10 and XU Mini M after all... and they still design the products for them

the XU20 kinda is still the same design they wanted to release another XU10 under... they just swapped the screen... which would explain the insane bezels on this

[burnt current]

They said they couldn't make them bezels any smaller

Idk how that works

But I assume part of why is because of the touch functionality

[fiery panther]

Probably since it is an old panel

That's how technology used to work

Bezels on phones weren't reduced until much later

[frigid condor]

XU10 had power button on the back too

[bronze yew]

really? well, guess I remember it wrong then

has been thrown into the reject box for a while

[sharp cloud]

#1392860755849646151 message

#1392860755849646151 message

[zealous jolt]

They should run it through h2testw to test the integrity of the card, speeds cool but doesn't matter if the card shits itself

[woven shell]

I suppose it's always possible they just don't understand the difference because they as developers aren't using the cards in the long term lol

[glad oriole]

XU20 V32 finally uses Samsung Epistar Black Card, and all cards have been deeply tested by professional H5 instruments.

It should be the first time to use Samsung Epistar Black Card with retro equipment. It is meaningless to say more now. I will wait for users to use it and evaluate it later.

[fiery panther]

Thanks for listening to our feedback

Samsung should be durable enough

Specially for an Android system

A step in the good direction

[frigid condor]

He said Samsung black cards, so they still need to be endurance tested

[fiery panther]

I have an app for that

Use this @glad oriole
https://h2testw.org/

Once you finish, send us this

[main geyser]

Does the xu20 work like the mini 28 in the sense that it doesn't have emmc and runs straight off the sd card?

[bronze yew]

yes

[burnt current]

I wonder why black cards even exist

Ig they skip the branding process to make the card cheaper?

[bronze yew]

either straight out untested garbo or stuff that didn't meet the QC standards of the big brands iirc

either way I doubt there will come any good from black cards

[zealous jolt]

Yup, is it really worth taking the risk of losing everything to save $5-10

Not for me lol

[sinful mortar]

The unfortunate part of H2Test W is its a single pass. If it fails that 💀
More concerned it would fail in >100 passes when proper cards are more like +2000

Could always toggle endless verify but not sure how well H2TestW logs for failures in that situation

I usually just check it for Nand QC fail cards (or spoofed nand)

[burnt current]

My main concern is that I just don't want to have to download the OS and shit from scratch lol

[fiery panther]

We will have to

I have the feeling

[sharp cloud]

Never bothered with cards bundled in these devices, so if they offer a barebone version would be fine for me

If you are worried about endurance, even SanDisk ultra (aka lousiest/budget line of SanDisk) won't make it anyway, you will need to have extreme or extreme pro, if not one of their endurance line meant for dashcam/surveillance cameras etc (which tend to be rated for slower performance)

[burnt current]

So what's the charging on this?

5V 1A?

[sinful mortar]

A133P so probably iirc the TSP goes up to like 1.8A if you give it a stronger supply but thats about it

[burnt current]

I think the Zero 28 supports C to C?

Could be wrong though

[sinful mortar]

c to c support doesnt mean it has the full PD range
and Amps are whatever the device itself can handle its self moderating

TL:DR its going to be 5V and ~1-2A doubt it will pull any more than that

[burnt current]

You're so right TacoCat

That previous message was just far too long for me to bother reading

So, so long

In any case, we all have our 5V 1A chargers on hand anyway

[glad oriole]

The XU Retro official store will be launched at 22:00 China time on August 10th, and the XU20 V32 will be pre-sold at the same time. Please help promote it.

[sharp cloud]

do you all have a official store on taobao?

[glad oriole]

Taobao, JD.com, and Douyin dealers in China will release the products later.

[vagrant iris]

Will you ship to EU from the start?

[burnt current]

I can't imagine them not

[fiery panther]

What about AliExpress?

[stark stirrup]

Posting to my youtube feed

[zealous jolt]

You can charge it with literally anything lol, for instance my 75W laptop charger works just fine (albeit not much faster if at all)

[burnt current]

I'm gonna say yeah

I'm not really the biggest fan of the Brick's controls, so having an alternative is very nice

[bronze yew]

Gotta wait for AliExpress

[fiery panther]

Yeah, this third party shipping companies are so slow

My Zero 28 took like a month

[bronze yew]

More like this will most likely be $48+$11shipping+$6vat

[zealous jolt]

+$100 tariff if you’re American

[rare junco]

Definitely interested, unless the shipping is huge. This is basically a better Brick on paper.

[fiery panther]

I just noticed something

If this is called XU20 V32

And V32 is the model

That means we could see a XU20 H32?

If they make a better Zero 28 but with 3.2 inches of screen, same chip, touch screen and hall joysticks...

That could be a very very nice console

[zealous jolt]

oooooohhh

you have piqued my interest

keep talking

[fiery panther]

The potential to make an awesome console is there

[bronze yew]

didn't MagicX had an 960x720 3.4" panel? would prefer that over the Brick screen by a long shot

[clever verge]

Brick Screen but Horizontal, could be the Larger A30 people always wanted

[sullen tide]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1394504726288269413 ?

[clever verge]

Yes, but TrimUI Brick was the better version between the 2 recent releases

How does the the device with 0 sticks, become the version with an L3/R3

[woven shell]

brick screen horizontal with the magicx hall sliders they said they were going to use at some point

[fiery panther]

@humble eagle what do you think of this?

[radiant lantern]

Dude this would be so peak

[placid cosmos]

dont care if its 2.8 or 3.2, i just want touch screen android

[spark cradle]

there's a 3.6 inch device with a more powerful chip and joysticks coming from XU soon...

[glad oriole]

XU Retro Official Store charges a flat rate of $10 for shipping (including tax). All packages are shipped by 4px.

[woven shell]

does it start with s and end with uper sp?

[fiery panther]

Awesome news!

[rare junco]

So it's gonna be $58. Still acceptable.

[placid cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/earloflemongrab-lemongrab-adventure-time-gif-5357681

[radiant lantern]

Hope they keep up the design philosophy they've been using and keep it flat

No ergo bumps

[zealous jolt]

An man $58 is a dealbreaker for me

Unless they’re getting 4px to skirt around the tariffs somehow

But I doubt it with them not being able to use other countries anymore

[placid cosmos]

ahem

[spark cradle]

yeah the 3.6 inch device looks super interesting

[burnt current]

You know, just thinking

Current prices are "early bird"

What will the actual retail price for it be?

[bronze yew]

There should be none, it's $58 flat or $202 if you buy all colors

[zealous jolt]

You would hope so, but unless my math is wrong $10 won’t cover any of these percentage amounts

[bronze yew]

they charge a flat shipping fee and 4PX avoids taxes

[zealous jolt]

I know they do they for Europe, but I don’t see how they will be able to do it for the US. If I’m not mistaken logistics companies have gotten around it by using other countries for the past couple months, but I don’t believe that will be doable anymore

I hope you’re right tho

[bronze yew]

we'll see, and it's not like the Better-Brick is a crucial device to have

I will probably wait on an Ali offer or until XU has more than one device I want to grab

[zealous jolt]

Aliexpress also “collects” the tariff charge at checkout, but they still have this disclaimer

Idk I just don’t trust it, I’ll wait to see how it plays out from the American Guinea pigs that buy every device out of fomo

[slim gale]

I have been sitting here debating if I would be willing to risk the tariff to get a one35

Just because of the emotional investment I’ve put in

[sullen tide]

Waiting for this one

[fiery panther]

Luna didn't ran the SD test

[fiery panther]

I personally think I'm going for green

It's a cool shade of green

[burnt current]

I really like that magenta

[fiery panther]

Very unique color too

There is no wrong choice here, they nailed the colors

And the obligatory black for people with no taste at all

But even that looks cool

[clever verge]

That Green tho, super Unique in this hobby by today's forgotten standards. At least Pink has been showing up lately

[glad oriole]

XU20 V32 packaging

[frigid condor]

[solemn pumice]

Did you just ping me with LUNA‘s message over on magicx? ^^

[bronze yew]

The package really isn't that interesting that I need a ping for it Bobby

[frigid condor]

meow

i chose the wrong ping

[fiery panther]

Little feedback
Don't put that big "manufacturer" there, makes it look kinda ugly

[solemn pumice]

Yeah that part has to go

[fiery panther]

Remove it completely or put "MagicX"

[bronze yew]

Yeah makes no sense to put a Logo most don't know, just put a MagicX there instead of Manufacturer

[rare junco]

Just put "Manufactured by MagicX" or something similar in small print if you really must put the manufacturer there.

Unless the deal with MagicX involves putting their logo on the packaging or something.

[vagrant iris]

to be honest the box will be the first thing I will throw out so it doesnt really matter to me

[fiery panther]

Throwing boxes away? Blasphemy

[glad oriole]

is that so?

[woven shell]

I think that looks better!

[bronze yew]

I mean we could keep a small MagicX logo behind the actual name, because now it looks kinda empty

Manufactured by
MagicX [Logo]

would IMO be the best

Lazyness wins out

[fiery panther]

Keep the MagicX logo

But don't put it diagonally

It could be just like

Manufactured by (MagicX logo here)

[bronze yew]

It's obviously only diagonal because I copied it from the box shown above

there is even still part of the "Manufacturer" on the cropped part

[fiery panther]

Lol

[fiery panther]

Interesting how the XU20 will feel kinda like using one of these

[lyric totem]

So Magic X makes devices for other companies but they also sell their own brand of devices?

[fiery panther]

Yes

They sell them to Ampown

And Xu is a division of budget consoles

[blazing gyro]

magicx is now an odm

[fiery panther]

Green is winning

Thanks for not disappointing me

[verbal sun]

Android 15 is crazy with such low RAM bit that's fun

[frigid condor]

Android 10

[fiery panther]

Android 10 is lightweight enough

And not locked

11 locked everything

So you can't access the Android folder

[fiery panther]

The store should open at any moment now

[frigid condor]

7 more hours i think

[fiery panther]

Okay

Also look @glad oriole

Do it like this

Just with the correct logo

Or like this

With a better placement of the text and logo

What do you guys prefer

[frigid condor]

what about this

oh shit i forgot

what about this

[fiery panther]

That looks more professional

Both options

But maybe right is cleaner

But... In the case Luna wants to keep the Manufacturer label, left is good

[frigid condor]

i'll be honest with you, XU should go with a retro inspired packaging like magicx does

[fiery panther]

Yeah

[frigid condor]

the new boxes magicx has been spitting out has had good reception, xu should do the same

[fiery panther]

PS1 NTSC-J style boxes are goated

[frigid condor]

but a gb style would work well to differentiate xu

i can actually make a concept right now

[fiery panther]

Which one

Right is definitely what Anbernic does lol

[frigid condor]

left

the packaging anbernic usually does has been beaten to death to this point

give me 15 hours

[verbal sun]

It says Android 15 in the image lol

[frigid condor]

oh you're talking about the xu40

[verbal sun]

Whatever's in the image idk I popped in and saw android 15 on the image

Thought that was crazy

[frigid condor]

ok i give up

[fiery panther]

Not bad

[burnt current]

Only a few hours now before preorders open

[spark cradle]

left one looks the best imo

[glad oriole]

XU Retro official store now online
https://www.xuretro.com/

[fiery panther]

I got the lucky number 7 🫡

Tell us when the firmware is ready to download so I can flash it

[clever verge]

Ask Gamma

[static aurora]

Got unlucky number of 13

[jolly kettle]

Oh they're still selling the XU10 and Mini M

Wonder what if XU released a mid-high end device more powerful than the A733, unless that's their limit

[clever verge]

Can we talk about them selling the other 2 for under $30 each tho....that's a Steal lol

Someone should put Quark or Spruce on those

[verbal sun]

Idk if I'm out of the loop but where's the other color option for the mini m?

[fiery panther]

They ran out of sfc units

[bronze yew]

Niji bought the last one

[strong moat]

strange, I ended up with order 1005 -- I like to adopt early, but this is ridiculous

[fiery panther]

Why ridiculous

[clever verge]

Because he was order #5

[bronze yew]

This ain't the next Retroid, no chance they will get 2k orders in the first few hours

honestly, most sales will happen via Ali in the west anyway

[burnt current]

I'm order #1016

[bronze yew]

now watch them do batches like Ayaneo where only the first 10 units of a color are shipped

[fervent solstice]

Oh cool, I was order 10

[brazen arrow]

i wonder who beat me

[sinful mortar]

deadfred 100%

[brazen arrow]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[sinful mortar]

You know hes talking that support team up ahead of launch

[bronze yew]

maybe @frigid condor got the first one

[sinful mortar]

at least top 3 or ill be disappointed

[frigid condor]

I was sleeping

[frigid condor]

that means unless you pet the cat once a day every day, you will be stared at by people from now on

[clever verge]

It was Stubbs

[brazen arrow]

I doubt he was awake for that lol

[clever verge]

AI bot pre programmed

Wait....we forgot about the choosen one.... @plush dome you got #1 didn't you

[plush dome]

❌

[fiery panther]

What colors did you guys ended picking?

[burnt current]

♥️

[clever verge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-identify-as-poor-chris-rock-chris-rock-selective-outrage-im-not-wealthy-im-broke-gif-7068350681723523282

[fiery panther]

Barney color

Good pick

[clever verge]

If i could, that Green is Sexy

[frigid condor]

you know what is sexy that is also green?

[clever verge]

https://tenor.com/view/gumby-im-gumby-eddie-murphy-snl-gif-16369359

[fiery panther]

@fervent solstice do you think you can bring GammaOS to this console?

[fervent solstice]

Yeah boi

[fiery panther]

Great

[burnt current]

Fantastic

That said

I have never used GammaOS

What does it actually do

The main thing I've heard is that it makes Android much easier to navigate with just buttons because it uses a build based on what Android TVs have

But that's kinda besides the point with devices that already have touch screens

Like RG406 and the XU20

[fiery panther]

From what I know
It is optimized for low power devices (in terms of navigation, performance is the same)
Android TV interface, comes pre installed with emulators, Dajisho and I think with third party stores with freeware apps (I think Aurora and F Droid?)
And the navigation hotkeys, yes

[burnt current]

Sounds pretty nifty

[fiery panther]

https://youtu.be/19naLWN4elg?si=aMZgQOTG80PxBM15

The review is in Spanish but you can see the interface and everything

[fervent solstice]

It'll work much better on these 2GB ram devices

[fiery panther]

My Android TV has 2 gb ram, streaming services work quite well

That version of Android does magic

[livid herald]

True, heh. Even if the sole Android TV I have has some lag

[remote swallow]

Welp, just got a Green one.

[fiery panther]

Green team

https://tenor.com/view/happy-monkey-circle-happy-monkey-circle-happy-monkey-circle-meme-gif-19448999

[woven shell]

One thing I love about Gamma is that he's completely unlike most devs

If you pinged someone with a random device and chipset they'd never owned or worked with before and said "can u make ur os work here" they'd tell you to eat shit

You ping gamma and say "will gamma os work on this" with a device that isn't even out yet and he hits you with the "it already does"

[fiery panther]

If the thing already eats Android, it will definitely eat the OS

[rare junco]

I just realized that their PayPal merchant name is "MagicX & XuRetro". So in the end are they the same company or not lol

[frigid condor]

not the same company

[rare junco]

Then they'd have to be pretty damn close to be willing to share a merchant account 😂

[frigid condor]

who knows, it might be magicx's boss' wife's boyfriend who owns xuretro

[static aurora]

You can change there performance profiles and clean ram by closing all apps from power menu options, as well

[fiery panther]

Interesting

[static aurora]

It's very handy to use, including toggle mouse mode with select+r1🔥

[remote swallow]

No, it’s much simpler than that, they’re married.

Not the owners/CEOs, the entire companies.

[frigid condor]

say, what is intercourse like between two companies?

[livid herald]

Oh dear, we're gonna have "the talk" here

[frigid condor]

so when two companies love each other very much

they do something called a “merger”

[rare junco]

"oh baby, I can feel the cash flowing inside me"

[glad oriole]

Two major news announcements today

1: XU40 H55switches to the MTK D7050 CPU

2: XU35 H50 H40 uses MTK P65 and will be released soon

[frail finch]

Pretty big jump in performance 💃🏾

[zealous jolt]

What price ranges are we looking at for each?

[rare junco]

So the XU35 H50 will be sort of like a weaker variant of the XU40? Similar screen sizes and whatnot.

[glad oriole]

XU Retro enables retro gaming fans around the world to own affordable Android touchscreen handheld devices.

[clever verge]

That is crazy awesome!!!!!

Y'all killing it

[burnt current]

I noticed that XU40 has the good sticks but XU35 doesn't

[idle sierra]

Miyoo P60 my beloved? Do you return reborn?

[zealous jolt]

That’s not really a range lol, I appreciate the reply tho

[glad oriole]

P65 is even better than T618 in actual test, and it is 50/50 compared with A733 in actual test.

[zealous jolt]

They look very nice, would be great competition for the mangmi if they’re under $100

[ivory meteor]

XU40
XU35 H50 H40

Erm, this naming scheme makes zero sense, no?

Like XU40 isn't a 4 inch device, is it?

[vagrant iris]

XU35 for sure are under $100

[burnt current]

They're just giving numbers in series now I think

Hence the XU20 using the Brick screen

[zealous jolt]

XU-XX is the model name/number I’m guessing, and the v/h-xx is vertical/horizontal with the screen size

[ivory meteor]

What do H50 and H40 stand for? And is it two devices or one?

[vagrant iris]

but XU40 probably is more expensive, maybe the reasons they upgraded the SOC is because it was hard to compete with Mangmi

[ivory meteor]

Ooooh

So theres a 4 inch P65 device now?

[burnt current]

I'm gonna crash out if the XU35 drops before One 35 lol

[zealous jolt]

I’m just guessing tbh lol

So for example with the XU20 v32, XU20 is the model name, and v32 means it’s a vertical with 3.2in screen

[burnt current]

It seems very plausible

[ivory meteor]

Oh wait, this doesn't look widescreen

[burnt current]

Especially since the new ones have H instead

[ivory meteor]

Damn, I was hoping for a 4 inch widescreen

[burnt current]

Has there ever been a 4 inch widescreen?

[glad oriole]

I can guarantee that P65 is stronger than any A73, regardless of power consumption and heat generation, it is better than Qualcomm A73.

[vagrant iris]

it's 4:3 for sure , there are dimensions visible on screen

in millimetres

[burnt current]

I feel like the smallest 16:9 screen I can think of is the RP3's 4.7"

But that doesn't sound right

[vagrant iris]

I hope they use the same screen as Helegaly Action Pi but laminated correctly 😉

[burnt current]

That would be sweet

Only thing is that Helegaly dual boots

[vagrant iris]

yeah, thats true, but this one will have more power

[glad oriole]

A word of advice regarding screen configurations: Using a CPU lower than the A78 with a 1080P screen is a mistake. It's just a gimmick used by Chinese manufacturers to attract buyers. A CPU with insufficient power, coupled with a high-resolution screen, will only lead to various problems.

[ivory meteor]

Not since PSP, I think

Well, quite a few ewaste-tier devices still use PSP-style screens

Glorious 480x272

[vagrant iris]

shots fired 😄

[sharp cloud]

Analog triggers for the XU35 H40?

[glad oriole]

For example, RP4 uses D900 and is equipped with 750P screen. Only those copycat companies have no bottom line to match it in order to sell their products.

[glad oriole]

Hall trigger

The H50 is a 5-inch, 16:9 horizontal format.

The H40 is a 4-inch, 4:3 horizontal format.

[solemn pumice]

Is it 960x720p or 640x480 for the 4:3 screen?

[glad oriole]

960*720

[solemn pumice]

I appreciate you luna

[glad oriole]

😚

[livid herald]

Looking up to see if Linux was ported to the P65, and now I'm wondering if someone will make a Ubuntu Touch port to the XU35s, heh

[clever verge]

if not, just give it time

[livid herald]

True

[clever verge]

since Anbernic was rumored to also be using that same chip Eventually

whenever they decide they wanna stop being left in the dust by Magic X & XU Retro

in 2025*

[solemn pumice]

Slight upgrade over the T820 it seems

[glad oriole]

Cheaper than T820, allowing more players to experience the PS2 GC 3DS device

[livid herald]

I say Ubuntu Touch because apparently, one of the reference devices for that OS uses a close cousin of the P65, the G85

[idle sierra]

T820 is also a very capable chip already for those systems so one that's a bit better should do fine

[bronze yew]

the XU35 H50 seems pretty pointless to me if one isn't looking for a dedicated PSP device tbh, especially as the XU40 shouldn't be more than like what $40 more anyway?

XU35 H40 definitely the most interesting for me

shame we don't get a XU40 H45 or something to compete with the rg477m

but it's good that they listen and use the P65 in more devices, it's too much R&D and makes this all take way to long if they use like 10 different SoCs

I wonder if the D7050 is the SoC they will use in the MagicX Two-Series as well

[solemn pumice]

I don’t hate it. The 0,5“ smaller screen is what might make this actually pocketable.

With that being said, maybe the they could’ve put the stick on top with the 40H55 to differentiate them even more.

[burnt current]

That's a good point

[bronze yew]

I'm not a stick on top fan, but yeah may make sense, given how that would be the device for those that want to run GCN and most PS2

but the more important question is, where are those two with a P65 inside

[burnt current]

Especially since if you're going for the 16:9 option, you most likely have plans to play PSP

[bronze yew]

also a bigger version of the 3:2 one with the 4.5" KTR1 screen and the D7050 would be amazing

[burnt current]

It's still really annoying me that the XU40 has the nice sticks, but the XU35 doesn't

[bronze yew]

literally even the Mini M has the nice sticks, if they use something worse now they can keep it

[solemn pumice]

Probably trying to price these away from each other as much as they can

Maybe even more than $40 ;))

[burnt current]

Definitely not

Since they have the P65

There's no way a handheld with that chipset is less than $70

It's not like the nice sticks are expensive either

[solemn pumice]

So what are we thinking

$90 and $130

[burnt current]

My current expectation is closer to $100, since it would probably be bad for them to undercut the One 35

[solemn pumice]

I can work with that

Mainly interested in the H40 though

Not trusting Helegaly

[sharp cloud]

What are the nice sticks (or not) you all referring to?

[clever verge]

hall

[burnt current]

Nah it's not that

[clever verge]

TMR?

[burnt current]

The sticks shown are hall, but they're still designed for Joy-Cons

[sharp cloud]

Are you referring to retroid/Ayn 's style sticks?

[burnt current]

Those exactly

[sharp cloud]

They are just renders anyway, doubt it's indicative of the actual products

[clever verge]

i use the Hall style Joy cons on my RGB30, they are nice. however, i get it for the Retroid/AYN desire

[burnt current]

I've just come to expect the Retroid sticks from MagicX

[sharp cloud]

At least specs wise, it's a slightly higher clocked d900, I think it's a rebadged 1080

[burnt current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392860755849646151/1404814981526196274/IMG_4708.jpeg?ex=689c8f67&is=689b3de7&hm=afdd07526833bc3a1fc94b73ff6a9144bad3270996673f0a87a41318bf8b4d75&

Admittedly, JF19-604HL are basically the best Switch style stick, but I still vastly prefer the Retroid ones

[solemn pumice]

That checks out. They seem identical except for the D900 having 2mb of L3 cache

And being lower clocked of course

[solemn pumice]

Maybe it’s because that kind of sticks is lower profile and can be pocketed easier.

• you use them way less on a P65 compared to a D7050

[vagrant iris]

Are magicx sticks confirmed to be exactly the same as Retroid's? I know Anbernic for example has different ones despite they look the same (on rg406 and 477)

[burnt current]

They're definitely lower sticks, but if the Retroid sticks can be recessed on the Mini M, they can work on a bigger handheld lol

[burnt current]

Idk if they're the exact same but they can swap caps with each other. Mangmi has the same caps as Zero28, as well

[vagrant iris]

And in case of Retroid you can buy replacement easily on their website but I dont think you can source them for Anbernic

[sharp cloud]

Please make sure they don't have the same issue as helegaly 's action pi screens.

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[solemn pumice]

That’s a good point you’re making

[glad oriole]

MagicX Two uses A715 large core

[vagrant iris]

I know, its just that even hall sticks break and its good to be able to repair/replace them 😄 (at least when they will be available at Retroid's shop). I doubt we will ever have issue with replacing switch style sticks, but these custom made are different story

[glad oriole]

This kind of low-end screen is unlikely to appear on XU devices, and only appears on knockoff manufacturers.

Welcome to receive XU20 to check if your 1024*768 screen has any light spots or light leakage issues.

There are many devices with this 3.2-inch screen that have been released. It would be best to have various comparative test reports.

[burnt current]

I've found them on Ali as well at least, though they were marketed as Odin 2 sticks instead

[woven shell]

I think it may be a bit too big

[idle sierra]

If the one on the right was 16:9 it would've fit

[woven shell]

I want to say the P60 was 5:3?

Which honestly would be my goat screen size

[solemn pumice]

4“ 800x480

[idle sierra]

The 552 and the Jifieman U8 and one of the random powkicdy x devices are the only ones I know with a 5:3 aspect ratio

[solemn pumice]

zero40 has the P60 screen, but vertically

[radiant lantern]

Perfect 3ds 2x integer scale

[karmic shore]

[idle sierra]

This makes me upset

Boy do I have business idea for them

[solemn pumice]

There used to be zero40h without a touchscreen and the a133p

They scrapped it though

Focusing on the one35 instead

[idle sierra]

Would rather a slightly beefier chip anyways

[sinful mortar]

the touch vs non-touch models was just a silly idea
honestly bet they would end up losing making less money having to manage 2 sku's just from not being able to buy as much panels in bulk

[woven shell]

magicx supposedly developed new sliders...

g99 in my experience has been flawless for 3ds emulation

[solemn pumice]

flawless is a very strong word, you know

[sinful mortar]

about as good as 3ds compat list is

[woven shell]

flawless as in doing everything the emulator can do

azahar just kinda works

[sharp cloud]

Someone mention rp5 with azahar can only go 1x for some harder titles, so doubt a g99 will be anywhere near flawless

Wait, I think you are the one who mentioned that

[radiant lantern]

Unless there's some compatibility issues that doesn't sound right

[sharp cloud]

#1344867829953855488 message

There are hard to run stuff on every system anyway, some that you just need brute force to run properly

[radiant lantern]

Which games though

[sharp cloud]

No idea, I didn't dabble too much in 3ds emulation yet since it can't offer a better than original experience compared to my new 3ds xl

Hoping the newer dual screen stuff coming up will fill the role.
From the above, rp5+the attachment may be the minimum 🤷‍♂️

[woven shell]

i mean there is a reason at the end of the day i'm getting an 8840u windows handheld xd

sometimes i just want to run 3ds at 5x resolution and not have to worry about performance loss

[lyric totem]

@glad oriole Whats the eta release dates of these devices?

[zealous jolt]

Yes they’re the same exact ginfull stick module, the ribbon cable is just slightly different

Anbernic also uses the same stick modules in the 406x, but again with a different ribbon cable

I plan on doing an experiment someday seeing if one can remove that metal shield and swap the ribbon cables between them. Watching some tear down videos of these sticks and similar I’m pretty sure it should be possible

[sharp cloud]

Thought the one in mini m was slightly smaller/lower range than AYN/retroid 's? Though same style/feel

[zealous jolt]

I’m 99% positive they’re the same, it’s the only ginfull branded Hall effect stick *of this style in existence it seems

They probably just feel like lower range because they’re so recessed on the zero28/mini m

[sharp cloud]

Pretty sure ginfull made hall switch/joycon-like sticks as well, bought some from AliExpress last time.

They have many products, though maybe not available for retail.

Ayn mentioned the ones for portal was slightly different/modified compared to the usual ones they used too.

[sinful mortar]

or its a customized ksliver JH15

hard to tell which brands are which in the joystick space lots of rebadging going on

[sullen tide]

SJGAM M26 is 5.1” 800x480 5:3 I just got it

[sullen tide]

Really great device for the price

[idle sierra]

Never even saw that one

[solemn pumice]

for good reason

[zealous jolt]

They do, I edited my comment to add of that style

[fiery panther]

Interesting news

Sadly

Not interested in a console bigger than my pocket

[frigid condor]

oh come on

i wake up and this happens?

why did i miss out on interesting news

[frigid condor]

The last numbers in the name represent the screen size

[frigid condor]

this is way better than sd665

is the XU40 going to be head to head in price with mangmi anymore?

[frigid condor]

mangmi is literally edging their potential customers right now

they're probably just unpredictable

[woven shell]

@fervent solstice can you get gamma running on a M26 Pershing

[sullen tide]

Paid $40. Search on Ali

[bronze yew]

wasn't that an rk3128? even $40 is too much for that 😅

[sullen tide]

RK3168, 5.1" 5:3 screen is really good. cores have been optimized well. Ergonomics are great as well.

[woven shell]

Why would I pay for a 5:3 screen when it can't play anything other than 4:3

[bronze yew]

maybe it runs GBA at least...

[zealous jolt]

What? They’re ginfull sticks

[sullen tide]

runs up to some psp just fine

[fiery panther]

Android powered tank

I can see it

[gloomy grotto]

oh snap

Maybe XU can finish what the RGB50 started

[fiery panther]

Explain, I don't know what that is

[sinful mortar]

something powkiddy started then forgor about

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[bronze yew]

I totally want an MagicX/XU Pocket ACE

[solemn pumice]

The picture that started it all

If that’s not an ACE, I don’t what is

[zealous jolt]

Yea too bad they dropped this *from their future lineup

I wanted one lol

Maybe XU will do it

[fiery panther]

@glad oriole what will be the final design of the XU20 box?

[viral ice]

About what size is this thing looking to be? I am in the market for a small android dude as an everyday carry alongside an mp3 player and only have so much pocket space.

[fiery panther]

XU20? Probably smaller than a RG35XX

It will work fantastic as a modern iPod

It has headphone jack

Doesn't look very big

[viral ice]

I’ve got an mp3 player, just looking for something that will fit comfy in the same pocket lol

[fiery panther]

Yeah just get some hydrogel on the screen to avoid scratches

The anti finger print coating won't be enough to save it from there

[rare junco]

The only thing missing as an MP3 player is Bluetooth.

[fiery panther]

Yeah, at least old reliable cables do the job

It's on the name of the company

Retro

[bronze yew]

That's a Pocket Micro tho, but yeah I want this design for both screen sizes

[zealous jolt]

Pocket micro?

[idle arch]

Do you have any video of it running??

[bronze yew]

Same 3.5" 3:2 screen as the Ayaneo Pocket Micro and MagicX One 35, I really want this design with both that and the KTR1/ACE screen tho

[zealous jolt]

Ohh you meant the screen, I thought you meant the general style of the device lol I was so confused

[bronze yew]

The general style is clearly more ACE-like and I love it

Now I just need them to make a cheaper "ACE", that I can use without babying it

[vagrant iris]

Please release h40 with XU20 green color option ❤️

[burnt current]

XU20 is a bit shorter but wider

But otherwise a close enough size

[jolly kettle]

Good choice

A733 sounded like it had a shit GPU

[jolly kettle]

Yeah it's more power efficient than the 662

[burnt current]

Wooooo

[jolly kettle]

XU40 will be able to do most GameCube and 3DS pretty much plug and play

Harder PS2 games might need some tweaking but we've got a better GPU than the T820

So it's in the upper end of the T820/D900/SD845 power bracket

[jolly kettle]

And it's a 6nm processor so it'll be more power efficient than the a733

[viral ice]

Interesting, and this has the same chip as the trimui smart pro/brick right? If it runs Stardew and I can load vlc then it’s probably gonna be something I buy

[burnt current]

Yeah, A133P

2 GB RAM instead of 1 GB, so some stuff runs better

[clever verge]

2gb Ram is better for Android stuff and Ports/Games on Android

Not Retroarch or Emualtor things

[burnt current]

I've heard it makes a difference for N64

I remember people mentioning it for the RG34xxSP

[clever verge]

Android makes the most impact for n64

[fiery panther]

I guess they will not change the part we said that didn't looked that great lol
Oh well, if it delays the release, keep it like that

[storm warren]

It's called Trimui Brick then 😀

[rare junco]

No thx

[fiery panther]

You can always use a Bluetooth adapter

[burnt current]

I'm not surprised given how close it is to release tbh

Though it's weird that LUNA even encouraged feedback on it

Ig it's for later products

[fiery panther]

Doesn't matter that much

I'll put the box straight into my shoe box with all my boxes

But for future products, yeah

At least, with the MagicX logo it's enough

[sinful mortar]

changes for next round of boxes or a sticker fix honestly doesnt matter that much

[fiery panther]

They can know who made this

[fiery panther]

They should make the boxes a little more prettier tho

Maybe it's the color, but it reminds me to those cheap portable famiclones

[sinful mortar]

eh its just a box to me imo
couldnt care less about quality brown recycles better anyway

[fiery panther]

They could also went with the no box route lmao

And put them into cases

[glad oriole]

After the release of XU20 V32, the next one to be released is XU35 H50, which is equipped with MTKG81/P65 and runs perfectly on PSP budget devices. The price and release date will be announced soon.

[fiery panther]

Camera?

Hell yeah welcome back PS Vita

Interesting how some awful consoles from the past (the MP5 and stuff) had a camera, but terrible
Will be interesting seeing a console with a camera that isn't like that

[sinful mortar]

did someone say psp selfie time

[fiery panther]

How big is it, by the way

Vita size? Switch Lite size?

Bigger than that is not good for me

[rare junco]

Isn't that just a spec sheet for the SoC? I doubt they would actually put a camera and a cellular modem into the device.

[livid herald]

Inb4 someone brings up Invizimals

[fiery panther]

Pokemongo

Oh wait no mobile data

Or gps

Probably

[solemn pumice]

can you do the XU35 H40 first, pleassssseeeeeeeee

🥹 🥹

[glad oriole]

H40 was released 45 days later than H50

[solemn pumice]

You mean „will be“?

Or how can I interpret that

[fiery panther]

Probably will be

Translating Chinese to English is very hard

[solemn pumice]

yeah I was thinking the same

[glad oriole]

will

[solemn pumice]

xie xie luna

[frigid condor]

Camera?

[radiant lantern]

When is the expected release for the XU30 V36?

[solemn pumice]

scrap that one, H40 comes first

[radiant lantern]

I need the v36

Maybe

[fiery panther]

Can't the XU20 be sent faster

Send me the one that is already in the box

[glad oriole]

XU20 V32 Final Box

[glad oriole]

The XU30 series uses Allwinner's new A73 CPU, which will take some time to develop and is expected to be released in January-February 2026.

XU35 H50 is expected to be released in October

[fiery panther]

Alright doesn't look too bad
Now send me it please 🤝

[bronze yew]

Honestly just toss that and do all with the P65... too many different SoCs ain't a good thing to support even If the device gets $15 cheaper

XU20 - A133, XU30 - P65, XU40 - D7050 and we are honestly good

[lyric totem]

Like Anbernic. Put a H700 chip inside and call it a day 🤣

Jokes aside, it worked out pretty well for Anbernic

[fiery panther]

A133P for the line of cheap consoles is not that bad

PS1, Vulkan support

[woven shell]

This is what I don't get

Everyone whinging about Anbernic using the H700 and T618 and T820

"use a different chip" for like what purpose though

The H700 is arguably the best chip you can put in a device for the price point they're trying to hit

[fiery panther]

A133P is a little better but the H700 is very well documented now

[vagrant iris]

Everyone was whining and then bought 10 more Anbernic devices

[woven shell]

And then Anbernic started using a new chip and the devices cost $300 now 😁

[sharp cloud]

if its cheap i see merit in it as a A133p replacement for 2026. Something like the rumored A537 (2xA73_G57MC1) or even the weaker A333 (1x A73 + G57MC1) for sub 60-65 range will be a big improvement over what is available for that price range now.

[fiery panther]

Can't wait for the moment where GameCube emulation becomes available for 60 dollars

[vernal wing]

if its like 80€ would be awesome

[jolly kettle]

Welcome back One 41

[burnt current]

I wonder if Russ will actually review this

Most likely no

But the touch screen might set it apart enough for him to bother

[fiery panther]

Which one you mean

[burnt current]

XU20

[fiery panther]

Hope they do make a review

I think I'll use my good A2 SD card on this instead of the Zero 28

Which is currently using

Or maybe my A1 will be enough

(currently unused)

A1 should be good to go right

[jolly kettle]

Time for the Air X to meet its match

Kinda

Think the air x will have a better screen and controls

[glad oriole]

XU20、XU30、XU35、XU40

[jolly kettle]

But the xu35 will have better performance (can do PSP God of War at 2x with no dips)

[glad oriole]

Good quality screen, no dust, no light spots, no light leakage

[fiery panther]

Give us a XU35 with dual joysticks in horizontal format and we will be more than happy 🙏

[glad oriole]

Soon people saw the electronic junk screens with parameters but no quality from the counterfeit manufacturers.

[jolly kettle]

I mean in terms of resolution

The air x has a 5.5" 1080p ips

Think this one will be 720p?

[fiery panther]

Wait I'm lost with the numbers
Was that already announced? What that was?

[glad oriole]

Qualcomm A73 with 1080P screen has the same result as A133 with 1080P screen, like a mouse pulling a carriage

[fiery panther]

Ah the GameCube colored thing
Seems interesting but I'll see how much money I have by then and if I really need it

[glad oriole]

Are you referring to XU40?

[fiery panther]

Dis

Is that 35 or 40?

[frigid condor]

XU35

[fiery panther]

And what's the thing that replaced the Tone41?

[burnt current]

Ehhhh

Maybe?

5" display though

What I loved about the One 41 was just how perfect it was for PSP

Down to having a close enough screen size as well as sliders instead of analogue sticks

[glad oriole]

XU35 is switching to a Hall effect joystick. The MagicX design is concave, while the XU design is slightly convex like the RP.

[burnt current]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-going-crazy-cheering-i-cant-even-avatar-gif-20682542

[bronze yew]

You guys should stick to
XU20 - A133
XU30 - P65
XU40 - D7050

And then when it's time to move to cheaper more powerful chipsets you do
XU21 - A537
XU31 - G99
XU41 - D8400

or something like that, the XU30/XU35 split makes lil sense to me tbh

[sharp cloud]

Would the x35 sticks have lesser range than what magicx use?
Is the x35 'a sticks closer to switch joycon or to Ayn/retroid sticks?

[burnt current]

From what Luna said, I interpret it as them using the same sticks as MagicX, but with different caps

Like how RP Flip 2 uses the same sticks as usual, but it has different caps

I guess we have to hope Luna will clarify though

[glad oriole]

The shell is convex like this

[clever verge]

#1392860755849646151 message

[burnt current]

Ohhh

So what Luna means is that the XU devices' sticks aren't recessed

Or at least not significantly so like MagicX's

[jolly kettle]

Or they should have done the A537 as the XU25 instead of the XU35

As it'll slot in between the A133 and the P65

[jolly kettle]

Someone frame this

XU40 series should have a 1080p screen ideally

[jolly kettle]

If there's gonna be a 16:9 model that is

And GameCube games would benefit from analog triggers

[bronze yew]

Nah, I meant like the X5 make no sense, as it's destroying the easy way to name newer generations in the following years

2025 | XU20/30/40
2026 | XU21/31/41
2027 | XU22/32/42
and so on, not even saying they will have to do yearly SoC upgrades, but with the XUX5 naming they would hit the wall for it soon enough

[frigid condor]

i figured they're doing something more like

2025 | XU20/30/40
2026 | XU50/60/70
2027 | XU80/90/100

[bronze yew]

would be more confusing IMO, I would clearly expect an XU50 to be more powerful than the XU40, but then it's like a better XU20?

[frigid condor]

well that's kind of just the problem with using numbers to represent CPU

it's why anbernic designated XX for their budget lines

[bronze yew]

That's why I think it would make more sense to stick the first number to the product line, while the 2nd represents the SoC generation
XU10 - ultra budget
XU20 - budget
XU30 - low-end
XU40 - mid-range
XU50 - high(er)-end

because doing an XU50 as the successor to the XU20 would be confusing as fuck

[fossil stag]

I mean companies can always go even more random with their naming scheme (e.g. the Xbox way)

2025 | XU20/30/40
2026 | XU One/Two/Three
2027 | XU Series X/Y/Z

[bronze yew]

that's what I'm trying to prevent here

Anbernic also played themselves into a corner with their 0-1-3-xx (was there a 2?) budget options, only the 5-6-7 Android still makes some sense

with the naming scheme that would make sense to me XU would be save for like a decade or even longer if they don't iterate the SoCs very year, also honestly one could also just do XU210 in 2030, who cares, after 9 comes 10

especially with their device naming being simple screen sizes and whatnot, a pragmatic approach to this would be fitting IMO and they say themselves that the "XU30" won't be ready till 2026... so why even name it XU30 and not XU21

also supporting too many different SoCs is quite a stupid approach for these companies, they have to do so much more R&D as well as software development, Anbernic has the right idea here and just spams a bunch of different form factors with the same SoC, which is already a huge success that we convinced Sean to do more P65 devices, as they are finally ready with that SoC after all

[fossil stag]

Yes
But honestly I've been burned too many times by companies with their naming schemes
No matter how much feedback they will take they are bound to have a slip up along the way with at least one product name
Unfortunately it will always be the job of us customers to be very informed on the tech specs of a line up and help out other potential customers

[bronze yew]

true enough, but keeping is simple, straight forward and easy to understand is something we hammered into MagicX already to the best of our ability, which kinda reflects in the naming of the XU devices itself being "32V" "36V" "40H" "50H" "55H", so I really hope they will consider a pragmatic approach to their tiers and SoC generations instead of really doing XU10, 20, 30, 35, 40 😅

[zealous jolt]

Oooo is xu reviving the magicx pocket or whatever it was called

[fossil stag]

I agree, but if we take into account the products they've launched or are about to launch (3 products using the A133P), MagicX/XU have been on a similar path as Anbernic albeit a more accelerated one as it doesn't seem that they'll keep on releasing devices with the same chip for more years to come
Also for the future choosing to stick to Android and using we'll help them provide broad support for more devices, while also offering more variety to the customer (win-win for us and for them as they will reach more niches)

[frigid condor]

What’s the device next to it?

[fossil stag]

Could be a pocketable vertical by the looks of it

It seems to have 2 joysticks next to each other

[zealous jolt]

Idk

Xu30 maybe?

[jolly kettle]

That's...an xu10

[zealous jolt]

It looks similar but it’s not

[jolly kettle]

Oh

[sinful mortar]

speaker grill in different spot tho

[jolly kettle]

Wonder if it's a shell for the upcoming xu30 36v

[sinful mortar]

nvm second photo is XU10 im confused

back to coffee

[burnt current]

Good spot

Might be stereo speakers

[sinful mortar]

yeah second glance is either xu30 or maybe testing an xu20 with sticks? doesnt look that much bigger than an xu20 but looks can decieve and the 20 already had a healthy amount of touchscreen bezel for its size

[jolly kettle]

Second photo kinda looks like an xu10 but the buttons/speakers are positioned different

[zealous jolt]

My monies on it being an XU30 test unit, since the button/speaker placement is different than the xu10 and there’s a usb c port on the bottom when xu10s is on top (I think?). The only doubt I have is that it doesn’t look like a 3.6 inch screen, but only like half of its visible and there’s not much reference to go on for size

[glad oriole]

Good news for the XU35: With strong support from MTK, the G81/P65 will be upgraded to the G85.

[livid herald]

Heh, yay! Hopefully this mean we'll get an Ubuntu Touch port

[glad oriole]

G85 has significantly improved performance compared to G81