Anbernic RG DS

[wicked latch]

(Benchmarks from Passmark cpubenchmark.net)

[radiant flicker]

screen translation is great for people who don't read english/japanese

[brazen osprey]

that's actually one of the best uses of ai ever, are you shitting me?

you can now play every untranslated japanese game ever

[wicked latch]

Okay, yeah, the translation is a good feature, I missed on that one

[radiant flicker]

imagine all the "not safe for the west" visual novels you can play 🤤

[stark rampart]

lol?

[wicked latch]

The "game guides" feature doesn't even need AI, just look up the game on GameFAQs (In fact I bet that's exactly what it does)

[radiant flicker]

which is faster? reading 100 pages of faq or get the AI to find the part you want and summarize it?

[brazen osprey]

well the guide will be correct, the ai might hallucinate

[wicked latch]

Though I'd probably still just grab a translation from RHDN for better quality if someone's already done that work

[radiant flicker]

this is gaming, not financial statement

[wicked latch]

Yeah, I don't care if it's slower, I'll just read the guide myself

[radiant flicker]

you just want to hate AI, even for practical uses

[brazen osprey]

personally i'd just use actual guides, but the translation is totally sick

[radiant flicker]

I want the AI bubble to pop as much as anyone but there are many practical uses

[wicked latch]

Though I'd say translation isn't "AI", it's Machine Learning, been around for a lot longer

And throwing the current hallucination machines at it doesn't make it any better

[brazen osprey]

ai is machine learning on steroids

[wicked latch]

The OCR is probably going to be the bigger obstacle; game screenshots, especially older ones, tend not to get read very well by translation tools

[radiant flicker]

my language is not supported in anything. AI can do the ORC which no software in the market currently supports my language. There are many practical uses

[wicked latch]

The blocky, limited fonts tend to cause them to misread even simple characters sometimes

It's better than nothing but prepare for occasional confusing nonsense

Otherwise, check for a translation on RHDN first (that's not foolproof either, though)

[radiant flicker]

I say AI investment in the west mainly targets creative stuff. AI in the east and africa actually does useful practical stuff

[radiant flicker]

then you give AI the font file

you can tell AI to make the font file from similar documents

[lethal sundial]

with dual screen you can choose one of these options

[radiant flicker]

kids in my country are taught how to use AI from grade 4

[trail warren]

I love the bottom picture since it shows how close the look. I REALLY want a DS Lite / normal DSi sized one...

[radiant flicker]

the screens look better than the OG DS

that comparison alone will sway many people who not playing with macro lens

[brazen osprey]

even i am gonna give up and buy it

[fallow copper]

I was considering getting the anbernic DS and something like the KONKR but I think I will just get the Thor Pro instead of both

[radiant flicker]

I just want toys to be toys, not expensive device I have to baby

[charred drum]

Can't we get a higher resolution?

[radiant flicker]

bilibili thing, you have to pay to watch in 4k

be grateful for youtube

[brazen osprey]

fuck it i ordered it

103€ with black friday coupons

man this is gonna end up being 70 bucks not long from now

[radiant flicker]

if like most past anbernic, 15-20% discount in 3 months

you pay for early access

[brazen osprey]

yeah

can be more even

at first the cubexx was over 90 bucks for me but i could find it later for 60 or so

[radiant flicker]

the cubexx was launched at $70

can be found on sale at $55

[brazen osprey]

i mean european aliexpress prices

which i guess change a lot more

[radiant flicker]

I guess the eu price is already tax included?

[brazen osprey]

yeah, tax and shipping

but sometimes you get crazy deals, like i got a flip 2 for 173€ all included

[spiral ferry]

Got mine for 47€, anbernic handhelds feel so much better when you buy them months after launch

Wonder how cheap the ds will be in 6 months on a random choice day

[brazen osprey]

yeah that was what i was wondering

around 70 or 80€ i guess

[spiral ferry]

Sounds good ;))

Easy recommendation to friends and family at that point

[radiant flicker]

people say retroid is best bang for the bucks but that's just msrp, anbernic is the true budget brand if one has the patient for it

[odd hull]

https://fxbilibili.seria.moe/BV1DUyPB3ECP/

[radiant flicker]

no one in china has a non yellow ds to make comparison on 😅

[stark rampart]

jeez a lot of eastern reviewers

[golden cape]

we'll get our favorite reviewers' reviews soon, probably starting next week

[stark rampart]

did they receive their ds at the same day or is this just now being found

[odd hull]

Review embargo lifted

[thorn iron]

console of the year.....

[formal grove]

What are we actually expecting reviews to tell us about this thing? Maybe a little bit about the software jank, I guess.

[radiant flicker]

from what I've seen, seems a lot less janky than the thor

[grand sluice]

Lots of reviewers give tips on how to maximize performance. We already know the insides arent that impressive, so at least people who get it first can test which settings work best

Also, anbernic seem to have neglected to optimize the settings in their demos, so im hoping to see some 2x upscale gameplay for some light-mid games

[radiant flicker]

I have high hope for custom linux firmware

[stoic laurel]

Some people literally need to be told to do something by a parental/trusted figure. Its like.... Lower left quadrant on the Myers Briggs praxis. Like anyone with xSFx

Waiting for reviews is valid for them

There's this lady I work with like that. She will literally sit at her desk and do nothing until the boss tells her to, and tunes everyone else out.

[radiant flicker]

people like that will live much longer than everyone else

[formal grove]

But is that actually living? 🙃

[radiant flicker]

I don't know, my grand mother is like that. She ignores everyone just just does her thing

she's 98

[formal grove]

Maybe it's just me - I just feel that I don't really need to see reviews on an Anbernic device at this point. Probably more than any other manufacturer, you know what you're getting with an Anbernic. If you just like to watch [insert reviewer's name here]'s videos, though, it's fine.

Maybe if Anbernic strayed outside its comfort zone with another x86, I might need reviews than.

[brazen osprey]

i should have waited to know if face buttons are as loud as 35xxsp or as quiet as 34xxsp

[ripe sigil]

Usually I don’t too much for Anbernic, but in this case, I need to see a good amount of footage of how problematic A14 on this chipset with this amount of ram really is.
It seemed surprisingly ok in the Chinese reviews that have been linked here

[brazen osprey]

not very worried about other dealbreakers since i already coped with the screen thing

[ripe sigil]

It’s always good to see them anyways just in case

[radiant flicker]

some early rg cubes have light bleed problem. that's the worst from anbernic iirc

nothing major like others oems

[stoic laurel]

😕

[brazen osprey]

it's honestly the first handheld i've ever preordered and even more rarely, the first one i buy without watching a review

[forest horizon]

Aka stubbs iconic diss track to Rg cubes shout out to @grim lion

[stoic laurel]

my cube has lower left corner light bleed. I see it in dark games

[formal grove]

I just expect some light bleed from low-end LCD. (I was actually pleasantly surprised by the RG Slide in this aspect...)

[radiant flicker]

otherwise, anbernic has a very good record

[brazen bloom]

idk, a plastic version of the 477m. whatever anbernic wants to call it idc 😅 i just said 477p as thats how they named their metal and plastic handhelds back in the day

[brazen osprey]

for me stuff like miyoo hinge, 35xxsp loud buttons, cube light bleed, stick cardinal snapping are the things i watch reviews for

stuff you can't just read a specsheet to know

[formal grove]

Funny thing is nobody even noticed cardinal snapping until recently. Pretty much every T618 handheld had it but nobody cared then.

[warped delta]

Anbernic normally quite good with hinge engineering.
Once you have RGDS, need to apply the right shader to have the best DS experience.

[stoic laurel]

(Emulates on keyboard)
(Emulates on bad anbernic sticks)
Heh, they are the same.

[brazen osprey]

yes we cared

i have a 405v and it was horrible

[radiant flicker]

cardinal snapping is actually great for retro games

arcade for example

[stoic laurel]

arcade games sure.

[formal grove]

I should say ... no REVIEWER cared.

[brazen osprey]

it sucks for ps2 and over

i still remember tony vercetti playing like he was on a keyboard until this day

[radiant flicker]

I'm pretty sure anbernic low end cardinal snapping is intentional, not accidental

[stoic laurel]

its gamer Stockholm syndrome. We've been abused so long we love it

[brazen osprey]

i am curious about the sticks one the ds by the way

wanna know if they're 34xxsp sticks or what

[brazen bloom]

they look more like miyoo flip sticks

which technically is the same stick as the 34sp, just with a different top

[brazen osprey]

no, miyoo flip sticks are vita sticks with click, 34xxsp sticks are switch sticks

[brazen bloom]

That’s not true, if you look at the actual stick modules themselves they are switch sticks

[brazen osprey]

then i guess people that checked were wrong

the top is confusing i guess

[jolly radish]

Is he serious or on drugs?

[radiant flicker]

he's been in business for more than 20 years, take that however you want

[jolly radish]

It’s 480p screens…. Let’s call that HD

[brazen osprey]

he uses pretty shitty screens compared to the competition

outclassed in every price range

[jolly radish]

Eh the 4.7” screen they use is actually phenomenal

[brazen osprey]

that's true but its competition is a 1080p oled

[jolly radish]

Unless you’re putting them side by side it’s barely a difference

[brazen osprey]

i mean that anbernic doesn't really excel in screens compared to the rest

they do in controls feel though i'd say

[brazen bloom]

That’s fair, the tops do look identical to the vita sticks. Here’s the modules compared to switch sticks though (notice miyoo had to snip off one of the screw hole things to make it fit lol)

[radiant flicker]

well, companies come and go, maxzhou will be in business until at least his retirement

[brazen osprey]

yeah i just thought you meant both flip and 34xxsp have vita sticks

[brazen bloom]

Ohhh my bad, no. Both switch sticks. Unfortunately hall ones don’t fit in the 34sp so I’m stuck with the stock ones 🙁

[jolly radish]

The start and select placement on many of their handhelds leaves room for improvement

[brazen osprey]

yeah i meant the feel of the buttons, placement isn't the best

[jolly radish]

I prefer the placement of the switch to be honest

[brazen osprey]

odin 2 had it perfect for horizontal android devices i'd say

besides dpad inset

[jolly radish]

All the other android handhelds put the start and select placement up there

[brazen osprey]

not anbernic lol

but i meant how ayn and retroid also put the back and home buttons in nice places too

[thorn iron]

anbernic uses membrane, higher end devices all use dome now

highest end pc controllers use mechanical switches with rubber sheet to dampen em if needed

[radiant flicker]

anbernic is like an old man, experienced but very stubborn in the old way

"back in my days, 480p is very HD" things like that 😂

4:3 or bust

[true creek]

already own a 3DS OG, 2DS - still trying to convince my self to get this because the screens ARE better than both those devices - but bummed it's really a 2DS only device - so many things can play that.

[sharp scaffold]

mega-ultra-giga-based

people already bought out the preorders. you can't say he's doing anything wrong. dude's a good salesman

[true creek]

Understood for sure, but that's ignoring the fact that a modded 3DS can play everything under, except the PS1/Dreamcast/N64 era, but you get Native GBA/2DS/3DS. (though these have hit a high price again, japanese ones are still 100-130)

[true creek]

I appreciate aftermarket devices, I'm sure he'll do a 3DS one when the tech slides down in cost and manufacturing

[radiant flicker]

480p anbernic still looks better though

[thorn iron]

It's all about balancing costs

Like I used to build pcs as a hobby and I could sell them for extremely cheap because I got discounted or used parts

[true creek]

3D silicon is on the way, and will give us another bump in performance / costs. Same thing Valve is waiting on for SteamDeck 2

[radiant flicker]

as soon as the stupid AI bubble busts

[true creek]

AI is good for us int he Retro though, we need something to propel Moores law.

[radiant flicker]

no guarantee though, before AI it was crypto then NFT, every reason under the sun to use GPUs

[true creek]

with the new batteries and chips coming int he next decade, we should get a PS3 emulation device with 6-8 hours battery.

[true creek]

Crypto left GPUs in 2010 actually

[radiant flicker]

all I'm saying is there will be something else after AI

[true creek]

I'm saying we need something else otherwise there's no money for research

[radiant flicker]

they're talking about quantum computing right now

[true creek]

quantum computing is probably 30-40 years from mainstream adoption

[radiant flicker]

yeah, as soon as AI busts, quantum will be the next big thing, useful or not

[true creek]

I don't think we see AI bust, what we see is local inference from silicon advancements.

Everything becomes AI enabled reducing the centralized consumption we have now

Giving us to sleek sexy handhelds that last for days, and play all the gamez 😄

[radiant flicker]

if you're into finance, you'll be more pessimistic about AI, it akes no money and has no plan to be profitable any time soon

[true creek]

I'm in VC funded AI

[radiant flicker]

oh well, good luck then

[true creek]

lol thanks, end game goal is to buy all the handhelds 😄

[radiant flicker]

nah, end goal is to live longer so I can play all my backlogs

[wraith snow]

I'm convinced that at least half the people in this discord are people who made a lot of money and now need something to throw it at

[charred lava]

You're right about something to throw money at, not the lot of money part tho 😭

[wraith snow]

that's the other half

[true creek]

LOL I'm on the needing funding side, not the VC side 😄

[wraith snow]

the real funding is the handhelds we bought along the way

[true creek]

The last segement of capitalisim that still makes sense! lol

[upper fiber]

The IA translation is really bad in the rg476 , in the rgds well it would be better for sure a improvement

I'm being not sarcastic

I'm being ultrasonic sarcastic

[true creek]

It's gotten me through a few games though!

Played Chaos Rings 3 on Vita with it!

[radiant flicker]

from personal perspective, it's really hard to translate Japanese, even for human translators

[true creek]

But it's doing in cloud translation, so it is slow AF

[upper fiber]

I don't know is fucked glitch on the 467

476

[charred lava]

It's not some new feature just because of the AI boom

[radiant flicker]

5 words could mean 2 sentences in english with plenty of foot notes

[upper fiber]

That too

[charred lava]

RetroArch has had its translation feature for at least 6 years now

[upper fiber]

Yeah

[radiant flicker]

that thing is very literal, doesn't work well for Japanese, works for english though

[stark token]

You have described every hobby space on the internet.

[charred lava]

I mean yea, it's a lot more basic there but it's a thing regardless

[upper fiber]

I don't know is veri hard that work well is even more glitch that anbernic

And look very abandoned, not a single improvement on that feature

In six years

If we're a good app that have a better interface and is more fast I might pay it

[radiant flicker]

there're plenty of software that does this, with the main market is for japanese visual novels, screen capture translation

way better than RA

[charred lava]

Knowing the discord server

It probably is

A lot of features are started and just never continued

[upper fiber]

Yeah but they don't gonna a translate a part of the screen or they do that, send me a example

[radiant flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjGRenGpE3s

the one used many years ago when i was in VN phase

[upper fiber]

That is PC and yeah I know it

[upper fiber]

I played so many vn

I have 1.8tb in a vn English collection

I might have more but I need a new hardrive

[radiant flicker]

i'm not sure you an I play the same type of vn 😉

[bleak isle]

for both retroid flips have a blue flip 2 and watermelon flip 1 and no hinge isse.

[charred drum]

It's possible to find a picture with that quality of the board?

[upper fiber]

Mmmm I dont know but I don't like gore novels

[brazen bloom]

The uncropped version is in this post, couldn’t find anything better that wasn’t a YouTube video

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/FvBWqocI0C

[sharp scaffold]

the -only- major issue is linux rk3566 firmwares will run psp and dreamcast better, it seems. here's hoping this gets an arkOS distro

[wild ice]

is christian still updating ark?

[bleak isle]

For the rk2020 yes

[odd hull]

Video review (Crimson Red): https://youtu.be/O_RJbWz_wT4

[charred lava]

oh finally black red model

[odd hull]

Crimson red looks nice too...I might switch my white order to red 😂

[sharp scaffold]

yeah the version for rk2023 is rock solid. plays all of dreamcast with no issue and even the super rough n64 titles like smash remix. doing DOA2 Tag Mode with no hiccups is absolutely some sort of physics/cpu nightmare he solved

[sharp scaffold]

#👊│powkiddy-chat message

[oblique estuary]

you know there is one thing i am very curious about

and that's if it can run comically lightweight pc games, like visual novels

because the idea of shelling out $100 for a dual screen device that i can read pc vns on rocks

i have a long backlog of those. and i don't need ps2/gamecube/insanely high end stuff that would make me pay more money for a thor. if i want more serious pc gaming i'd either go to my actual computer / steam deck. and i got some stuff with portmaster on my 34sp. but just super comically lightweight games like vns? that would be convenient to read in bed, and i could just put a clock/timer or discord on the other screen

if i want 3ds i will use original hardware so i can also use 3d. but the potential of "dual screen android" is what interests me a whole lot more than just ds gaming

[rotund maple]

I imagine this device might struggle sometimes since it's a lot weaker then most modern phones

[radiant flicker]

do you have a game in mind, I could try it for you

[oblique estuary]

"it gets so lonely here" may be a good test since it uses the same engine / software reqs most of what i'd be interested in would be (since it's free)

[grand sluice]

Will the chip affect latency for steam link or other casting programs? Planning to run some pc games with this, then a trophy guide on the other screen lol

[brazen osprey]

yes, and i guess it won't have wifi 6 either

[radiant flicker]

6 hours live stream?

[lethal sundial]

I'll be ready in a few days

[formal grove]

I expect to see no less than two hours of racing games.

[sharp scaffold]

tales of innocence - open world vs. combat performance is a good strain for ds emulation.

[keen cipher]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3NhOnor6bQA

Is nintendogs really that fun? Whenever I see anyone play it, it just seems a bit odd to me

[urban oracle]

It's more of a nostalgia thing. It was a very iconic game and shared experience for most people who had a DS

[brazen bloom]

Man it’s so gorgeous, but I have my doubts on the hinge. I don’t see it lasting super long since it ditched the detents and relays solely on friction

[noble harbor]

thinking about this a little more intently as a dc and n64 machine

[wraith snow]

very pretty, give us some initial thoughts man

[lethal sundial]

preprod sample disclaimer

the hinge is really tight, more than any device I’ve used (inc laptops etc). I’m not sure if they did this to ensure it won’t flop off

tighter than even laptops

[noble harbor]

don't we want like a little slack on a hinge if its solely friction based?

so that they dont snap off?

[lethal sundial]

when I unboxed it, I didn’t like the red piano finish at first, but it has grown on me and I think it gives it some uniqueness

[brazen bloom]

Yea it’s tight now, but my concern is how tight will it be 1/2/etc years from now. Ds hinges have held up over time since they use detents, it’s hard to completely wear out a detent to the point it doesn’t hold its position. But something that’s only using friction will (presumably) wear out a lot faster

[lethal sundial]

I can’t speak to longevity of course, but I’ve had no mishaps

it’s hard to accidentally move it when holding vertical

[upper fiber]

Even the hinge of the dsi xl have rte problem of flapping and nearly close if you move while playing

[radiant flicker]

in 1 year, there will be loads of better ones for you to buy

has anyone in here endured a whole year without buying a new device?

[drifting laurel]

Yes

But that was before I got into this hobby

[oblique estuary]

i'm glad that we are at least getting closer and closer to peak, watching the rise of clamshells shift over to the rise of dual screens has been fun

i will be able to destroy my attention retention with dual wield genshin and youtube one day

[oblique estuary]

this was me i've watched retro game corps for years after getting a steam deck before finally getting the rg34xxsp

don't regret it, the pocketability is so nice

[urban oracle]

I literally sold all my game consoles and got into this hobby. Now I don't actually play games anymore. I just buy handhelds and tweak settings

The only games I actually played to completion since starting this hobby was Hollow Knight and Dewprism

In 2 years

[oblique estuary]

i just need smth that can let me play the games i want to play most, which are usually lightweight indies

[lethal sundial]

I have a 2DS XL that is pretty weak

[oblique estuary]

i have more free time away from home so something very small and portable would save me

i just hope the rg ds can run very lightweight vns via gamehub because otherwise i'd have to spend over twice the price on the thor for reading in bed

portmaster vn options are... very lacking

[radiant flicker]

if this has linux options, I can see it run those vns very well

[brazen bloom]

personally i don't buy that many. I got a miyoo mini plus and rg nano the first 2 years i got into this hobby, then since January i kinda splurged by getting two zero28s, a 35xxh, and a 34xxsp. but to my defense i thought i was going to like the zero28 a lot more than i do. i'm definitely done for a while though, i am very happy with my sp. there would have to be something very intriguing to make me budge

[radiant flicker]

i have 35xxh and sf2000, that's it

[brazen bloom]

you're a rarity lol. i still have all of mine, just because i don't want to go through the hassle of selling them i only use the 34sp regularly though, i'll turn the others on every once in a while

[oblique estuary]

steam deck and 34xxsp but steam deck is too hard to take places with its size, i like that i can just chuck the 34xxsp in my jacket pocket

[long cradle]

35xxsp, 34xxsp, 40xxv, trimui brick and an Odin 2

34xxsp is so far my go to since the target platform (GBA) is great for those short bursts of time I have to play something

[wild ice]

Just the 2023? I recall rgb30 used to have ark

[sharp scaffold]

i expect the rg503, rgb30, rg353m/p/ps/v/vs, 10max3/x55, etc. to have the same results

[urban oracle]

I have the latest ArkOS on my RGB30 rn and it's actually kinda nice, got it just to test out and compare performance

But might keep it

[sharp scaffold]

yeah, the single-card mode is a nice relic from early rk3326. glad it came back. bios and root on partitions 0 and 1, roms on 2... there was no reason to veer from that.

[urban oracle]

I'll probably only put Linux on the RG DS if dual booting is an option

[sharp scaffold]

android vs. linux itself is full of "game x works better on ___" comparisons too. i HOPE it dualboots

[urban oracle]

Yeah, I wish there was a stylus slot

I'm not buying a case for this. This is a pocket device and I don't want to have to carry extras like a stylus or sd cards

If I have to buy a low profile stylus, and then mod the shell and add my own stylus slot, I'll do it

[undone brook]

That’s why I shifted myself back to the consoles

Found with emulation and having allegedly everything I played nothing

Still got an RGDS for retro achievements though

[zinc patio]

The trick is to install a limited amount of games
I put 8 Switch games on my RP5 and finished them in order
If we keep testing performance and installing games after game we get choice burn out .

[terse shore]

make a list of 10-20 games you'd theoretically wanna play, then spin a wheel and stick to it

or just appreciate that you have fun with tinkering, if it's enjoyable

[trail mesa]

Or join in on the gotx fun here on the server

[undone brook]

“Fun”

[trail mesa]

I finished more games in 2025 than any other in my life, not just from gotx stuff I did a bunch of gamepass this year, too. Nine Sols

[zinc patio]

It's the next on my list after i finish Hades 2

[trail mesa]

Definitely one of my favorites I’ve played this year. Pretty decent challenge to it

[zinc patio]

It is pretty fun just like the first one. Funny is that this is the only rogue like games i enjoy , there's just so much to it that is fun to play the runs

[trail mesa]

Hades series has some of the best meta progression in rogue likes

[sharp scaffold]

always be taking games off your to-play list. that's how you manage it

i find puzzle, platform, and racing are easy to cross-off first, then you get to something nutty like monster hunter and reroll/customize your character a dozen times

[pearl flower]

When it comes to meta progression i think less is more

[grim lion]

Live testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-xEgk_H4QM

[bright pecan]

Unprecedented in this channel: someone actually showing off the actual device

[formal grove]

I mean ... nobody really HAS the device yet.

[robust ledge]

Stubbs just confirmed no playstore

[bright pecan]

based

[wraith snow]

woah didn't expect this to drop today

[merry wadi]

Wait what??

Why??

[stoic laurel]

We can still side load though

[swift echo]

tepig

pokemon black fast forward seems to run like 280 - 320 fps

[merry wadi]

So no play store.... On an android handheld?

Is this due to compatibility?

[swift echo]

bro this weak af gah damn

also getting toasty

[merry wadi]

Tbh it's doing better for a chip than I thought with no cooling at all xD

[urban oracle]

I put play store on my 353p and it killed the performance

[wraith snow]

did he do golden sun dd? can't watch the stream rn

[crude jasper]

This looks so bad tbh

Stubbs fighting to find positives

[urban oracle]

He did, didn't seem to have issues from what I saw, but can't play at 2x

[grand sluice]

Bottomline is, if you’re okay playing DS at 1x, it’s alright

[radiant flicker]

be honest, how many people re gonna play golden sun?

[silk plover]

1x and no integer scaling

[grand sluice]

Interpolation shaders and you wont even notice it

[urban oracle]

After watching the stream, this is about what I expected. I think this device is good enough. It plays DS games better than any other device in the price range. This isn't supposed to be a perfect ds clone. This is the RG35XX for DS. It's cheap and does the job

[formal grove]

it's probably due to not enough ram.

[undone brook]

I wanted it to run ps3

[jolly radish]

I just wanna see the game melt that hot ass chip

[grand sluice]

When did he say he will release the full vid?

[silk plover]

I'm not buying a DS focused device that can't integer scale DS games naturally lol same reason I wouldn't buy one focused on GBA that can't integer scale GBA

[formal grove]

Isn't the heat on the bottom because Anbernic isn't using the battery as a heat sink this time?

[urban oracle]

RG35XX doesn't integer scale Gameboy, but it sold a zillion units because it is cheap and looks cool. That's what the RG DS is.

[grand sluice]

Yea i get ya

[undone brook]

I don’t think that many people care about integer scaling tbh

Just a hobby nitpick

[grim lion]

Hoping we can get one to @halcyon grail

[halcyon grail]

ruh-roh

[urban oracle]

Yeah, GammaOS will probably be huge for this. Performance tweaks. Maybe some reduced latency

[grand sluice]

And its heat left over from playing 3ds plus accumulation over time

[grim lion]

Some software love we might be eating good here soon, right now a little rough around the edges in UI

[halcyon grail]

I have a dev unit on the way, no ETA yet though

[radiant flicker]

99.99% of the world population don't know what integer scaling is

[halcyon grail]

I'm about to drop the AirX release now

[formal grove]

I think MOST people who are looking for a cheap-ass device to play some DS games aren't going to care about whether it integer scales.

[jolly radish]

Gamma already preordered

[grim lion]

https://tenor.com/view/loyal-you-smart-you-loyal-smart-you-smart-dj-khaled-gif-4923665

[urban oracle]

Yeah, this device is not made to compete with Thor or any other device for that matter. This device is made to sell to people who want a DS

[jolly radish]

And now my head hurts like someone punched me in it

[silk plover]

Yes but we're not 99.99% of the world population, we're the 0,01% nerds that do lmao

[undone brook]

Did someone punch you?

[jolly radish]

Man that person who super chatted about giving me one was really nice, too bad that was too much of a request @grim lion

[jolly radish]

Nope

[urban oracle]

We'll get more DS devices soon enough, and competition will drive prices down on the RG DS and give us more options in the $100-200 range

[silk plover]

Agreed. That's why I think it's good to wait for a few months to see what comes next.

[jolly radish]

I kinda wish he hadn’t of fast forwarded through the Zelda opening

I wanted to see if it stuttered

[grand sluice]

Cant wait for the “cheap” ayaneo DS to drop for 250

[formal grove]

... with all preorders shipped out by 2029.

[wraith snow]

Oof, I was hoping this wouldn't be as bad as speculated but no 2x is rough

[urban oracle]

I like the one that magicx teased, but it's just a slab with one vertical screen

[jolly radish]

They should have just done a 2DS 1:1 clone

[grand sluice]

I hate slabs but it looks so weird and fun that it might be a great gift for the kids

[jolly radish]

Having the screens that close will throw off the design of the games

[urban oracle]

Yeah, I like the slabs as a concept, but I want something pocketable

[jolly radish]

Cargo pants supremacy

[radiant flicker]

cool guys use this 😄

Cargo pants are for nerds

[grand sluice]

I need one of those to fit my ipad

[urban oracle]

I personally don't care about upscaling or anything. As long as this plays DS games with latency that isn't too extreme. That's all I want. I want this to be my every day device for DS, PS1 and below

And silksong

[grand sluice]

Naur, silksong streaming latency will make it unplayable

[grand sluice]

You need close to zero latency for it

[urban oracle]

Nah, Android port

[grand sluice]

Ah there’s one already? Might check that out!

[urban oracle]

I played all of hollow knight on my 353p, hoping RG DS can handle silksong

[grand sluice]

Then I’ll run a trophy guide on the bottom screen lol

[urban oracle]

Yeah, already has mods and multiplayer support.

[grand sluice]

Did stubbs show N64?

[upper fiber]

how dare you using logic here

[radiant flicker]

I'm sorry

this is bad, it should be $30

better?

[jolly radish]

He showed Mario 64 for the DS

[urban oracle]

Don't think he did, but RG DS should handle most N64 fine

[oblique estuary]

i'm hoping so hard for pc visual novels to run

all i need

[undone brook]

Keep hoping

[radiant flicker]

you should hope for linux

light pc games will run much better with linux

[radiant flicker]

that's like rom temperature in my country

and I'm sure all the Australian guys will come in here to say that's cool to touch 😄

[jolly radish]

That’s after playing MMZX for a hot minute

[undone brook]

Wait who is Stubbs

[jolly radish]

One of the admins of the discord

[upper fiber]

i see one open not even a thermalpad

[jolly radish]

What?

[upper fiber]

if you put one and maybe a air inlet, problem solve

[upper fiber]

the soc dont have a thermalpad

[jolly radish]

https://tenor.com/view/lucifer-hazbin-hotel-hazbin-lucifer-hazbin-luficer-hazbin-hotel-gif-14134623307447943489

[upper fiber]

is raw is fucking nude soc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvA5YhVSY5o go to 14 minute

[jolly radish]

Rather not feed the AI slop channels

[radiant flicker]

thermal pad does nothing without air flow and heatsink, but then you have active cooling

[upper fiber]

happy

[radiant flicker]

me no likey big fan noice

[jolly radish]

Me no likey device that gets almost 100F

[radiant flicker]

just get the thor

[jolly radish]

He said he saw it cap out at 39C off screen

[upper fiber]

yes and no, you can put a pad pressing the shell and you have better temp dissipation happens the same has 40xxh

[jolly radish]

laughs in 3DS XL

[upper fiber]

pad + copper tape and solved, same happens on the trimui

[radiant flicker]

then people will complain about it too hot to touch

[jolly radish]

It already is

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/point-at-you-point-you-thumbs-up-two-thumbs-up-gif-6261391895630358153

[upper fiber]

lol

[jolly radish]

You will buy a 476H

[cursive jacinth]

I don't know if my being a window shopper who doesn't own a single emulation handheld yet keeps up with news relating to them is better or worse, but I am planning to get one for Christmas or around then, and maybe then I can finally join the club of people who collect like 30 to line up and look nice on a shelf

[hushed rampart]

that was me like 2 months ago and now im looking for a second handheld 😂

[radiant flicker]

how many games have you played on your current handheld?

[upper fiber]

The rg476 is nearly perfect, I have one

[jolly radish]

It is my beloved

Normally I don’t like indigo handhelds

But that one spoke to me

[upper fiber]

The only thing that I hate is the all glass front

[jolly radish]

Start and select placement

[upper fiber]

I really don't like that and the minimum brightness could be a little lower

[upper fiber]

I don't have problem with that really, hot take I prefer there hahaha

[grim lion]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-exactly-what-i-want-to-know-thats-what-i-want-to-know-i-need-to-know-arguing-disputing-gif-12587439

[warm crest]

I mean yeah in a couple of months that will be ambient temp inside our crappy housing... Probably still cooler to touch than the TSP and it never cooked itself

[radiant flicker]

my fist australian bush fire was 2009, it was 45C and all the aussie about me just "nah, it's not that bad" 😅

i saw them sun bath in that temperature

[warm crest]

Yeah honestly I'm a bit of a failure of an Aussie in the sense of being too pale and not heat resistant... But that does track, it will be 42c and my coworkers will chuck a sickie to hit the beach when the sand is scalding...

I think I'm actually meant to be Canadian or something... i die the second it hits 35c but I was walking around Hotham in a t-shirt at -4c

Jokes aside... Temps on these devices worry me less when the battery isn't cooking... I pushed my TSP to being so hot it got hard to hold and it's still fine hundreds of hours later... The A button is dying first.

[stoic laurel]

Power conservation. Play store bloat eats CPU cycles

[radiant flicker]

there's a high chance those review units are china version, which doesn't have google stuff

[jolly radish]

Doesn’t exist on this handheld

[radiant flicker]

for most people in this space, obtainium is suffice

[zinc patio]

Joy doesn't exist inside this hobby

[upper fiber]

hey your favorite youtuber have a patreon if you wanna suport it

[zinc patio]

I will gladly join tbh

[lethal sundial]

it’s warm when playing DS but not a hot potato to me

[distant jacinth]

Maybe we can put a thermal pad on the chip. I did that on my RG40XXH and thought it improved it loads.

Like the heat was more concentrated in one area, which was thankfully away from where your hands would be. Without the thermal pad, the device would warm up all over and, for me at least, would be annoying/distracting

[lucid yacht]

Phones often get to 45 degrees, I don't think 39 is even an issue

No thernal pad is a surprise though, thought they'd use the plastic shell as heatsink. Can't cool rk3568 by nothing at all

[sly cosmos]

Yeah but people in this hobby thin 30C is hot

[lucid yacht]

Are they even buying handhelds then. Or just not checking the temperature

[sly cosmos]

That being said. Stubbs video put me off on it. If it has issues playing DS at even 2x theres no point when I already have a DSI XL

[sly cosmos]

No they just cry that its too hot when its running at 30c

[lucid yacht]

Yeah anbernic really made the bare minimum, that's kinda eh. Mine is already shipping (I think), and I don't have a working ds, so I'm like their target customer

Tinkering is half the fun, it would be interesting to check how N64 runs on this. But if DS barely runs, I have suspicions

No play store is funny though. They're really trying to make 3568 work in this thing. I assume with google services installed there's going to be background tasks that 3568 won't handle

[sly cosmos]

Thats the funny part too is I emailed them asking about the play store and they said it has it.

#1385011384307421224 message

[lucid yacht]

They definitely should have gone for T820, but memory prices are absurd, not sure how cheap they could get that one. People will be put off by 477V pricing too, I think.

[distant jacinth]

Yeah in that livestream, Stubbs said Anbernic sent him an email like, explaining how much their costs have gone up, RAM prices etc. I feel a price rise coming...

[radiant flicker]

i'm old enough to notice ram/nand has 4 years boom/bust cycle

[lucid yacht]

On AliExpress definitely, but their "official" prices were always stupid, so I don't think It'll go much higher than starting price.

[sly cosmos]

Yeah ram prices are about to annihilate handheld prices

[lucid yacht]

406H launch pruce is like 180, pretty sure it's not going above that

[sly cosmos]

My ram in my PC (Corsair 32GB 6000mhz) was 200ish when i bought it, and is 400 now

[lucid yacht]

So, basically, you'll be paying for 2-3x the ram, but actually getting the same amount as before

[radiant flicker]

I wish they they leave some unsoldered ram pad in there, I have a lot of old stuff to harvest from

[sly cosmos]

Im a little pissed they lied to me and said it had play store

unless the review models just dont have it

[lucid yacht]

Waiting for RG DSXX with 1GB of ram

Though anbernic said like 5 days ago that there won't be any H700 devices. Maybe RK3568+Linux+1GB is possible

[distant jacinth]

Lol just checked my last RAM purchase, two 16GB DDR5 sticks, was £74 when I bought and now the cheapest 2x16GB kit on pcpartpicker is £167

I shoulda just went 64GB back then...

[wicked latch]

Holy fuck

When did you buy?

[lucid yacht]

September or earlier, I would guess. After openai pledged to buy up half the global ram supply, memory market has gone insane

[distant jacinth]

March this year

[wicked latch]

Fucking hell

[wicked latch]

Soak up that idiot VC money like gravy

Investors love nothing more than throwing all their money in a giant hole

[lucid yacht]

I'm afraid they'll get bailed out by regular people's taxes if enough of ai crap gets integrated into workflows and such

I have no clue what I'm talking about though, just hoping it doesn't happen

[radiant flicker]

it will happen, the usual national security ground with china blah blah blah

[wicked latch]

Yeah, financial analysts are already saying it's going to be an absolutely historic disaster

[radiant flicker]

nah, $1.3T, it's nothing , only 1/4 of current military spending

[tawny elk]

it makes little sense for anbernic to do anything like that since the ds is already the lowest with the current ram price and internet tax thing

u would need to have at least 10k ppl aiming for a even cheaper ds and ok with it without Android . which i say is only a handful

[noble harbor]

wow this thing does not look like a joy to play on

again maybe the retail units have a bump up

[tawny elk]

it feels like a dsi xl

[noble harbor]

but it definitely seems like it’s worth just waiting around

[tawny elk]

good or bad

[noble harbor]

which is the coolest thing about it!!

[tawny elk]

it is what it is lol

if u wanna wait around

of course that is ur choice

it plays all the ds games that i care about fine

like all those castlevania

and saga series lol

[brazen osprey]

have all pokemon games been checked?

[tawny elk]

all ds pokemon is 2d rite lol

it should be more than enough

it is a faster 3566

with enough to ram to do Android

so I won't worry about pokemon

[brazen osprey]

they have 3d stuff in the scenery

[tawny elk]

it is game freaks lol

not whoever made gow lol

[brazen osprey]

it can still run bad

[tawny elk]

lol

well just asked anbernic

ds pokemon fine

but wait for ppls review

don't take just my word for it

[wicked latch]

The DS didn't have groundbreakingly powerful 3D capabilities

[radiant flicker]

the DS did have groundbreakingly 3D capabilities, just not powerful

[undone brook]

Will this play psp

[radiant flicker]

yes, I don't know why you would want to do that but yes

[noble harbor]

aspect ratio gonna be wonk as hell

[distant jacinth]

Screw groundbreaking effects

[urban oracle]

Didn't stop most people from playing PSP on their 35xx though. I don't think PSP will look too bad, the 4 inch screen will help. I'll probably play FF Crisis Core and Kingdom hearts on my RG DS

[distant jacinth]

Boggling minds > breaking ground

[noble harbor]

i do hope the latency issues in that stream can be mitigated w some software patches or smth

it did look a little painful sometimes

[wicked latch]

lol

[urban oracle]

I'm mostly going to play DS, gameboy and retro 4:3 stuff. I'm hyped to play PS1 and N64 on this

[noble harbor]

this did seem smth that was heavily improvised along the way but i hope the ppl who get this can get the most out of the device even in like a month or two

some n64 like smash remix i imagine would be a strain

[wicked latch]

I wish you could select the single screen, though

[noble harbor]

that hot battery is really funny to the point of slight concern

[wicked latch]

I believe I've heard it's bottom only for one screen

I used to play GBA on the top screen of my DS.... until the hinge turned to powder while it was on a shelf

[lucid yacht]

I don't think the battery is hot, the chip is.

[noble harbor]

sorry yes

[lucid yacht]

Yes, bottom screen is the primary one, and the top one can be turned off. Would love if they could turn off just the bottom screen though.

If I'm launching a non-ds console, I'd probably do it on the top screen.

[trail warren]

I'm almost through the RH video. Uh oh. Not looking good. Seems like even at 1x resolution it's not great playing DS. Maybe one day we'll get a Linux based OS that could run this better but for now I would hold off

[grand sluice]

The only one I saw it struggled with is GSDD. What are the others it struggled with?

[trail warren]

New Super Mario Bros. Phantom Hourglass

[lucid yacht]

Everything runs at 1x, but NSMB runs with some frame pacing issues, he feels. I hope there's some tweaks that can fix it

[grand sluice]

Oof right

[trail warren]

Yup and Stubb's even says he's not normally sensitive to input lag. I'm the same way, so it looks like this would bug me

Sounds like Stubbs is hopeful it can be fixed in software. But we'll see

[lucid yacht]

No OTA update functionality promised though

hopefully bootloader is not locked down, it's based on rockchip after all

[wicked latch]

Rocknix might take it up

[trail warren]

Rocknix supports dual screens too

Apparently it requires some tweaking but someone on Reddit got dual screens working

[radiant flicker]

most of the tools for rockchip is opensource

i see bright future for this

[lucid yacht]

Does anyone know if anbernic solved the charging problem on their android devices? I don't have any. They refuse to add a couple resistors to their linux devices to support c-to-c charging cables.

[radiant flicker]

this is kinda misinformation

[trail warren]

I hope so. It looks awesome

[lucid yacht]

Was it all made up?

I'm primarily using A-to-C cables, so didn't encounter any problems yet

[radiant flicker]

if there's some charging problem, it's the charger's fault, not the device, throw away that charger

[wicked latch]

If you try to use a C to C cable and no power flows, the downstream port is missing the resistors, or has a faulty PD chip.

[wicked latch]

This is completely incorrect

USB Power Delivery only sends power if there is a 56kΩ resistor to ground on both CC lines (Raspberry Pi Foundation fucked this one up on early RPi4 units), or there's active communication to configure PD parameters.

No resistors, no power (and it has to be one each on both lines, this is where RPiF goofed up; they had both lines to ground through one resistor)

[wicked latch]

Even considering non-PD, a misbehaving device can cause charging issues, like if the charge circuit in the device is malfunctioning or has failed

[lucid yacht]

Ok, guess we'll find out in the review

[wicked latch]

No, that's all there is to it. If you use a PD charger and a C to C cable, no resistors means no power.

[lucid yacht]

"It's two resistors, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"

[wicked latch]

The cost probably wouldn't even show up on the balance sheet

It would be a rounding error

[lucid yacht]

Yea

[radiant flicker]

you don't seem to know how these things work

[wicked latch]

You say to the electrical engineer

[radiant flicker]

yeah, ahve you design and make stuff in china?

you don't buy a chip, you buy a solution

[lucid yacht]

That doesn't even matter, still a mistake

[wicked latch]

That doesn't change that your statement on charging is incorrect under any conditions

I've implemented USB PD. I put those resistors on my board. It works with C to C cables.

[lucid yacht]

Yeah we're basically moving the conversation to another direction, now about chinese logistics

[radiant flicker]

hey rockship, I want to buy this one. Sure here's a list of the local distributors, they will design the board for you

[tawny elk]

there is no hand held company that can develop stuff without solution provider but solution provider only just help u do the basic stuff. u will need to integrate everything together urself both hardware and software.

solution will make sure ur main pcba works to a external but they won't help u layout the board for niche stuff like audio or retro gaming

that is why u have all those dongles from ttgk sounds like shit (oemed for almost every brand )

as they can make u a Dongle that measures ok but that is about it. they lack of basic analog audio design skill lol

[pearl flower]

https://tenor.com/view/oshawott-gif-1155855428013011460

[tawny elk]

but most audio related company can't work with ultra tiny stuff . so they exists

don't make it sounds like a solution provider is everything . they holds the key to a certain soc design

as the chip maker is using a lot of illegal stuff so they can't provide u with a proper sdk

or they r like qualcomm . they won't work with most ppl without asking for all ur codes and stuff lol

[pearl flower]

My RG DS still hasn’t shipped yet

[tawny elk]

lol well anbernic is almost always ship earlier than promised

[sharp scaffold]

stubbs also barely knows how to use the emulators he tests.

chances are he didn't turn on threading or whatever makes ds run smoother on rk3326 and 3566. that said, this is yet another tinkerer's device

[radiant flicker]

the most fascinating thing he mentioned is anbernic has a special version of azahar that works better

[pearl flower]

Isn’t that just Azahar plus

[radiant flicker]

don't know

he didn't look more into it

[sharp scaffold]

you should probably comfirm that sort of thing first. this probably isn't like Dolphin for Handhelds, the special version made just for the retroid pocket 2+

[pearl flower]

[distant jacinth]

In Anbernic's "unboxing" video, they specifically said that only .icc files would work for Azahar, so it doesn't sound like they're using Azahar Plus

[sharp scaffold]

lol.

they're using the jank version

[pearl flower]

Rip

Guess no 3DS for me

[sharp scaffold]

i mean, you can just NOT use it

azahar+ is easy to sideload.

you take the apk file, you put it on the device, and -boom- you run it and it installs.

[radiant flicker]

I'm a little curious about anbernic's azahar now

ah, xbox's gonna increase it's price due to ram shortage soon

[sharp scaffold]

but yeah, ds games ran slow probably because stubbs opened it and ran the emulator as-is. aka he didn't turn on Multithread or autoFS. single-threaded DS emulation on A55's is pretty horrible

[pearl flower]

Everything is going up in price cuz of ram

[radiant flicker]

will ps4/ps5?

[pearl flower]

Glad I’m in a spot where I don’t need any powerful new tech

[radiant flicker]

and the more important, will switch 2?

[pearl flower]

Well they’re not making PS4s anymore so probably not those, but I’d be willing to bet that’s a yes for ps5

Switch 2 idk

It’s possible

[radiant flicker]

that's gonna change people's opinion on AI stuff faster

[pearl flower]

Good

The sooner everyone hates it the sooner it’ll die

[wicked latch]

Yeah, it should affect anything that uses RAM

DDR5 in particular, I imagine

[sharp scaffold]

nah, there are already people developing romances with their Alexa

[wicked latch]

Unless OpenAI is just buying every kind of RAM available

[sharp scaffold]

ai apocalypse is pretty bad

[pearl flower]

Well when you run out of ddr5 to buy yeah you start buying other kinds

[wicked latch]

Didn't even need Skynet or Terminators

[radiant flicker]

openai doesn't buy hardware, they buy processing capacity

from google, microsoft, amazon whom may contract that out to server farms who will construct and buy hardware

[pearl flower]

I just enjoy sitting back and waiting for the ai bubble to pop

[radiant flicker]

headlines don't tell the whole story

[pearl flower]

[sharp scaffold]

as long as neurodivergents never leave their house for anything but work and talk to an emotional cope machine because real people are too scary, this isn't gonna end.

then you add grandmas and grandpas

[pearl flower]

This feels like projection

[sharp scaffold]

it's more of a warning, because it's already happening

[upper fiber]

Like the .com one

[pearl flower]

Yeah

[radiant flicker]

no not like that, if you read financial news it's much worse

[pearl flower]

Companies are gonna realize all this ai shit isn’t as profitable as the elites lead them to believe

Then they’ll be stuck with billions of dollars of ai hardware they can’t even sell off for a quarter of the price

[sharp scaffold]

it's horrible at writing news articles, lol.

[pearl flower]

It has good applications that I’m sure with stick around

[lucid yacht]

It's a neat toy, like VR 10-15 years ago. But whenever VC tries to cash in and start asking for profits, the real test starts. Most normal people won't pay $400 a month for a chat bot

[radiant flicker]

the thing is way too large now, the government will likely bait them out

[pearl flower]

But 90% is ai just for the sake of having ai

[sharp scaffold]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1243958548652888084/1439401227124346961/image.png?ex=6922f41b&is=6921a29b&hm=090cf8750819707b9d406b2814554a8ba9eb47596717ce5480744dbd846540bd&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=481&height=742&

Tfw your local paper was required to fire writers and use chatgpt to cut costs

[pearl flower]

It’ll bite them in the ass don’t worry

[sharp scaffold]

the problem is reporters still exist and have to feed it information and photography, but in a case like this, their boss won't let them do the core of the article. its a clownshow

[radiant flicker]

in near future, some news agency will advertise themselves as non-AI just like the organic food trend

[urban oracle]

I think AI is great for personal use, and for tasks that cant be performed by humans. Sadly mostly AI is used to replace jobs and make rich people more money

[pearl flower]

Some game studios are already doing that lol

[lucid yacht]

"oh no we build 500 GPU datacenters in US, and they're all unprofitable because people don't want $20/day subscription to a chat bot, please mr president save us or we'll fire 8 morbillion workers, waaaah" is how it's goona go in the next 5 years

[pearl flower]

If I’m gonna use an ai chat bot I’m gonna host my own tyvm

[radiant flicker]

Ai like copilot is very useful for office task. It can help to make exel formular you're not familiar with and analise statistic to make graphs and charts. AI is useful to make tools not to get final results

[pearl flower]

Gaming copilot is fun to mess around with

[urban oracle]

like I use AI to help myself add more depth to my DND campaigns, and it's so helpful for that. I can create the world and major events, and it can help me create extra flavor, side quests, and world building

[sharp scaffold]

i'd rather just have a semi-intelligent Wolfhound

[pearl flower]

But for the 99% average Joe consumer ai has next to zero utility

Like I said I don’t think it’s gonna disappear. There’s just gonna be a massive reality check for big corps

[sharp scaffold]

RPG gm's using ai... i dunno man.

half the fun is figuring out how to break someone's handcrafted world. "why are all your npc's named after spanish revolutionaries lol"

[pearl flower]

It actually could be a good alternative to shitass Google if they could just nail down accuracy and cut hallucinations

[wraith snow]

what world does this discord live in constantly predicting the ai bubble pop when in reality there's literally 800 million people using ChatGPT regularly and growing?

[lucid yacht]

Because it's almost free right now

[wraith snow]

how do you see 800 million people going suddenly "oh well, nevermind, I guess ai was just hype"

[pearl flower]

Cuz they are making next to zero actual from-consumer profit

[radiant flicker]

when share holders demand profit, and users have to pay fair price for AI

[pearl flower]

They’re paying billions for all this ai stuff and making maybe a few million back

[sharp scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336793270092693525/1441180118625157151/2cf97c4a-82dd-4cb9-a791-c7a05ed10429.jpg?

[pearl flower]

It’s not about how many people use it, it’s about how profitable it can be actually be

[sharp scaffold]

ai can also straight-up lie to you

[urban oracle]

Yeah, I mean I create like 90% of the campaign. Ask the AI for extra flavor and ideas, and then I take those ideas and rewrite them to fit my narrative

Also facts

Ai lies like a mfer

[pearl flower]

Yeah like a creative seed you build off of or iterate on

[sharp scaffold]

improv actors could take some tips from it though. It's a special type of "i believe my own bullshit" unhinged thought loop

[urban oracle]

Yeah, it just helps create interesting side characters and extra stuff. I'm not a great author or anything so it helps with creating a very full world compared to what I can do on my own

It also just helps me get better at writing my own stuff, the more I use it, the less I need it

[pearl flower]

It’d be pretty cool using ai TTS or voice modulation to replace the “generic RPG protag title” in rpg games with the name you actually name your character

[sharp scaffold]

protip: start up AI dungeon and see how fast you can get a faerie to jerk you off.

[pearl flower]

IMO at least

[sharp scaffold]

it's harder than you think

[radiant flicker]

I bet 90% of people will stop using chatgpt or sora if they increase the price by 500%

[pearl flower]

99%

[urban oracle]

Yeah, voice actors have to record so much clean dialogue for the games, using a little AI to get some personalization for the dialogue would be cool

[pearl flower]

Yeah not like replacing it all with ai TTS, just using it in those little moments to make it feel more immersive and personal

Wonder if there’s Skyrim mods that do that

[urban oracle]

Some games like sports games, they literally record the announcers saying hundreds of names so they can personalize it to your character, but they don't have all names, not mine

[pearl flower]

Yup

[sharp scaffold]

there is a Skyrim VR mod that makes followers generate spoken dialogue based on what they hear you saying

it's definitely some cringey uncanny valley bs

[urban oracle]

Imagine a game like doki doki literature club, using AI and breaking the 4th wall using your name and shit

That would be wild and a very creative use to make a scary surreal experience

[pearl flower]

I have played some Skyrim mods that use older ai TTS

[sharp scaffold]

https://youtu.be/vWMLVZF3pGc

[pearl flower]

Dagoth UR follower is peak tho

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ib8ktf49FOU?si=t8VYNIDtxxwDNxD7

I should get a dedicated Skyrim mod drive

[sharp scaffold]

i modded skyrim for like... a decade. put like 4000 hours into the game. glad i broke free

[pearl flower]

With the shit Bethesda is putting out now I’ll embrace modded Skyrim happily

Modding is free

[sharp scaffold]

yeah. that and fo3/new-vegas modding were great nexus communities

[pearl flower]

Which is better than $70 $80 modern garbage

[sharp scaffold]

@valid orbit do you think you could port arkos to the rgDS?

[drifting laurel]

Anbernic AI must be discussed, truly a revolutionary feature

[radiant flicker]

love it, helps my father a lot as he's leaning english while playing old games

[wraith snow]

@grim lion when you have a minute could you test fast forward on golden sun dark dawn? I'm curious if the crashes at 2x are software or lack of headroom, fast forward could give us a hint

[wraith snow]

watching more of the stream it seems to me that the crashes are mostly software and there is headroom

[loud yacht]

Well, it is “Anbernic AI” (something that is fully advertised as a feature of the device) so it’s not like it’s actually off-topic.

[wraith snow]

one thing to keep in mind with DraStic is that it tends to be unstable if you change settings mid-game

what I usually do for best results is change settings, restart drastic, then play

it might be that this explains Stubbs crashes

[zinc patio]

That video killed any hype i had for it tbh Seems like they did the bare minimum with it , i am more interested on the 477V if that ever happens

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-doge-doge-dancing-dog-dance-gif-15072629

[urban oracle]

Yeah I feel like I'm the only person not disappointed by the stream

It seems just fine

[charred lava]

I'm here with you lol

[thorn iron]

i only watch retro game corps i can't wait to skip to the end and read pros/cons

[charred lava]

It didn't change what I expect the device to be

[thorn iron]

oh also skim the dpad section

[charred lava]

Since that start I've seen this as an upgrade to the magic 40 zero which I did enjoy

[stark rampart]

me neither but only cuz im not really in it for the nds stuff

[urban oracle]

I don't feel like it does the nds stuff that bad tho

I don't care for 2x or 4x or whatever, I just want DS games

I'm going to have a real DS lite to compare it to when it gets here, but I'll choose the RG DS over the DS lite any day for all the extra stuff

Pokerogue, Minecraft, dead cells, Stardew valley, SNES and N64

[worn sierra]

Can anyone show me this device playing videos and games simultaneously

[worn sierra]

"People will stop using a free product if they make it insanely expensive"
???????

[limpid gate]

obviously he doesnt mean the free to use version, duh

[worn sierra]

The highest paid version aren't for normies
If it's worth it , they'll pay for it

[limpid gate]

its around 270€ per year, and yes, i am a total normie... and also i would cancel it instantly if it would cost 1250.

[limpid gate]

thats the point, is it worth 5X if i paid 20% of the new price before and still get the same product? i mean a lot will cancel, maybe not 90%, but still... 5x price is a dealbreaker for many people on most products 😂

[worn sierra]

If they increased the price by that much
It'll prob targeted for companies not enthusiasts

[limpid gate]

theres a corporate version. the plus for 270 a year is the cheapest subscription afaik.

and the point was - 90% would cancel their subscription if they 5x the price without any added value.

so whats your point? it seemed like you wanna say "no, people dont care about a 5x" when its obviously not the case

[bright pecan]

The AI madness has come to the point where my search engine of choice is a paid product from an AI research company that got sick of AI being fucking everywhere and instead provides a search engine that DOESN'T force LLM garbage down your throat

the plan also includes access to an interface that lets you toy with some LLMs but its UI is completely separated from the search engine unless you go out of your way to enable that integration

[lucid yacht]

The point is, openai earns like 1/5 of what it spends. They have to raise prices by like 10x, and hope that only 1/2 of people cancel their subscriptions, which is unrealistic. Government bailout is imminent

[pearl flower]

I’m not disappointed

[lucid yacht]

I'm a bit worried about SNMB tho, but otherwise it basically met expectations of rk3568

That chips performance is identical to 3566, regardless of what others might tell

[pearl flower]

I feel like it’s mostly a game of expectations

[lucid yacht]

I expected 2x without any lag on most games, and 1x on the hardest ones. And looks like 2x is not really working. Pixel balancing shaders look fine, I'm not worried about 480p

[pearl flower]

A mix of expectations and an overall ignorance with how hard DS actually is to emulate

[slate coral]

The games I'd play seemed fine in testing on my rg arc so meh

[undone brook]

Yea I just need DS without the yellowing screens tbh

[radiant flicker]

ask your fav AI what is the total financial commitment of openAI, then ask it how are they gonna pay for it with their $20B revenue

[pearl flower]

Print more money

Easy

[sharp scaffold]

i'll get one when it acquires linux support. android doesn't soft-thread as agressively, causing those a55's to get bogged down with queued instructions on the harder games rather than doing as many instructions as possible in parallel

[summer dove]

Im with you. Still excited for this and im sure im going to enjoy it. Im not letting this purist mindset ruin what these things are actually for: enjoying retro games.

[charred lava]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[fathom kite]

the bigger issue for me is the input lag

that looks bad

[warped delta]

https://www.youtube.com/live/i-xEgk_H4QM?si=KFUCpdrYbD13sw0P

Finally videos testing RGDS. enjoy

[zinc patio]

Money printer goes buuuurrrr

[drifting forum]

oof

all this chatter about clamshell hinges cracking and folks are prying em open by the corners. Open it from the middle

[brazen osprey]

make me

[drifting forum]

no

[urban oracle]

Yeah, I almost shat myself when he opened the DS from the corner and I could see the bend

[zinc patio]

Ngl i cringed so hard when i saw he opening it . I wonder if this is why the Thor and Flip2 are cracking en masse

[charred lava]

[lucid yacht]

Looks more like a laptop hinge than a ds hinge

[charred lava]

Don't think I've actually seen a Thor "crack" that wasn't just plastic mold lines or cracked during delivery

[pearl flower]

Don’t tell me how to use my device

[formal grove]

It's honestly too early to talk about Thor hinges failing. You need to give them time.

[torpid pike]

Hearing stubbs' stream and seeing that it can crash on 2X DS games, while also getting hot is definitely a cause for concern...

[hazy zephyr]

ok I'm definetly buying the thunder god's handheld

[urban oracle]

Yeah, but I don't think he went into the settings and configured some stuff, think he was just on default settings

[torpid pike]

I personally just got a used DSi XL from Japan for $80 CAD and called it a day. Don't regret it.

[hazy zephyr]

only if RGDS had a better chipset and battery ...

[urban oracle]

I'll probably get a thermal pad for mine to help dissipate the heat across the whole back panel

[zinc patio]

One of the admins from the RH fb group showed a literal crack on his Thor , it wasn't a mold line , it's different

[hazy zephyr]

do you remember if it was the purple one?

[zinc patio]

It was the rainbow one

[oblique estuary]

ngl i feel confused by a lot of the backlash against the device

yeah it's not playing more than the ds (aside from a few very light 3ds titles) but unless you really, really care about 2x or 3x res and retro achievements, it seems perfectly playable for anybody who just wants ds without an actual ds

sure it'd be nice with more bells and whistles but it seems like it's just an android dual screen handheld that is an upgrade from something like the 34xxsp and will have the convenience of supporting discord, youtube, etc. on another screen

the thor will always be a better alternative for those willing to shell out for those higher powered consoles but if you don't need it this is less than half that price

[zinc patio]

There are a lot of bandwagon hate for it and unfortunately when it gets caught up by the mob it's over.
My problem with it is that it seems it won't run all DS games properly , then it loses its purpose.
People demanding 3DS out of it needs to touch some grass but DS should be 100% playable

[urban oracle]

DS is probably just fine, need to configure settings on drastic. Don't think he did that on the stream

[hazy zephyr]

I wonder how long a 4000 mha battery will last on that dual screen device.

[grim lion]

Battery life has not been great so far, something is draining it while sitting idle. Another vote for GammaOS 😆

[oblique estuary]

i think it'll probably be fine for most people on most games, drastic is old but it still is very strong

i've played and beat enough games over the years on shittier hardware than the rg ds with drastic to feel like it probably will be fine for the most part there

[urban oracle]

Gamma is going to def make this device so much better

[oblique estuary]

it's unfortunate some stuff like rhythm games won't work as well but those suffer the same issue on even the thor cuz it's just not original hardware

[grim lion]

I've had to charge it up 3 times in 24 hours so far, but each time was only to 50% or so. Still, less power efficient chip or software.

[grim lion]

You're not wrong here either, minus the latency aspect of this vs OG.

[urban oracle]

All I care is that it plays pokemon gen 1-5, chrono trigger, kingdom hearts, and ocarina of time

[hazy zephyr]

good luck playing Ocarina of Time with cardinal swapping

snapping*

[grim lion]

That's Joe's, he wrote an article on our website about it. https://retrohandhelds.gg/ayn-thor-hinges-begin-showing-signs-of-cracking/

Keeping it up to date with his experience

[grim lion]

No cardinal snapping luckily, snaps to center pretty sharply though.

Cardinal snapping drives me nuts, had to check for it right away 😆

[charred lava]

how's the dpad feel

like the r34xx sp?

[grim lion]

Dpad is solid, it's the 34xx sp dpad and face buttons

[charred lava]

nice

[grim lion]

If you're playing dpad focused games, it's a nice and comfortable experience.

[urban oracle]

I hope it can run the silksong port. I need a good dpad for that game

[undone brook]

Tbh most people just need it to run Pokémon well

[warm walrus]

… so you extrapolated that to “cracking en masse”?

[zinc patio]

Yes

[urban oracle]

Guys my DS lite broke and I spent 65 dollars and it isn't fixed yet

But I refuse to buy a new one

[upper fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-pablo-stan-twt-standing-grandpa-gif-15901735077073339091

[prime sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/99-percent-of-gamblers-gif-434871090499708776

Keep spending. You're almost there

[valid orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-might-know-someone-taro-sakamoto-sakamoto-days-i-might-have-a-connection-netflix-gif-2071204521953190585

[grim lion]

Tried GameCube for fun with mmjr2, that's a no go

Dreamcast (via Flycast) is also a bit rough

Also you can just touch the top screen or bottom screen to switch where the controls apply to (instead of pushing the RG button)

[thorn iron]

is there a way to lock controls to one screen?

maybe I should watch one of these reviews first before asking questions

[grim lion]

Not that I can find yet.

A weird issue is the speakers buzz, but only while playing a game (and the controls are set to the same screen the game's on)

This kind of thing is nice though, if the game isn't too demanding you can have a browser tab below

[charred lava]

Might just be a retroarch audio driver thing

[grim lion]

Despite everything, this is fun to use, enjoying it more once I temper my performance expectations.

One I can toss in a bag and not worry too much about it, and the weight and ergo make it an easy one to want to pick up.

[wicked forge]

What about bluetooth? Bt earbuds works fine?

[terse shore]

N64/PS1/DC?

[grim lion]

DC has some stutters and frame dips, trying N64, and more PS1 next

Will test BT

[summer shuttle]

I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is it pocketable?

[grim lion]

Samsung buds 3 work well

Pocketable yes

[summer shuttle]

Ty

[grim lion]

Some audio delay on the BT

Ok pretty bad delay

PS1 is fullspeed

[wicked forge]

Native res? no shaders?

[grim lion]

Right

PS1 pretty fun on here

Sega Saturn seems ok so far

2D Saturn

[wicked latch]

Actually this is a ridiculously good idea. I've always done it this way without thinking about it, and the only hinge I've had break was my NDS, and that disintegrated while it was in storage.

[grim lion]

N64 isnt giving me problems

[wicked latch]

If there's one thing I've learned being in emulator handheld communities it's that everyone in emulator handheld communities actually hates emulator handhelds 😜

[oblique estuary]

true

also never plays games just sets them up to see if they work

[grim lion]

PSP is running ok also, I don't notice the same input delay like we saw on DS

[oblique estuary]

is it easy to take screenshots on the rg ds? i feel like that would be awesome for taking pics to send on smth like discord vs the misery of using a phone to take a picture of my ds when playing a game

[grim lion]

PSP is at 1x though, I wouldn't push past that much

[radiant flicker]

are you using stock drastic or R-YaTian/DraStic_rev_i18n?

[grim lion]

I just found a hidden menu item for quick settings, a toggle to turn off the screen!

[wicked latch]

This thing should get better once Rocknix gets to it

[grim lion]

I'm using stock drastic

[grim lion]

There's a screen record feature

I'm quick settings

[oblique estuary]

awesome

[grim lion]

Kind of neat to see the game box art on bottom screen and play on top

[radiant flicker]

hidden slow-mo mode?

[grim lion]

Just looking for input delay

[sharp scaffold]

looks like this was designed only for ds and limited other systems

[grim lion]

Camera in slow mode

[sharp scaffold]

i don't suppose android can handle motorstorm well at all.

[oblique estuary]

i'm so excited to see more of this thing running in the coming days, it will probably run easyrpg player just fine and i'm really curious how well it could handle The Lightest Weight Gamehub Games Ever (like old pc games or visual novels)

[radiant flicker]

alright, slap linux on that thing already

[sharp scaffold]

easyrpg probably runs fine with the retroarch core. just load it yourself from the buildbot

[oblique estuary]

standalone app probably works well too

that thing runs on anything

[radiant flicker]

wonder how the rocknix people think about this

[sharp scaffold]

https://buildbot.libretro.com/

[radiant flicker]

heh, they renamed their 3566 channel to 356x

[oblique estuary]

i just realized if i get the blue one i could decorate it to be hatsune miku themed fuuuuck that's too peak

[sharp scaffold]

batocera team could pull it off with full touch support. they nailed it on the current branch.

just give it sometime to cook in dev hands. DOA2 Tag mode related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPytbPsUhFA&start=82

[hushed rampart]

So with rg ds in hand how overblown was the whole integer thing

[oblique estuary]

the stream sounded like it's not that noticable with the shaders enabled

[radiant flicker]

the modern 480p screen is better than OG ds and 3ds, that was never the issue

[hushed rampart]

Cant wait to get one!

[radiant flicker]

the integer scaling people want sharp even pixel, a separate issue

[hushed rampart]

Yeah

[oblique estuary]

it running android is gonna be kinda interesting just in that it puts it in a unique position different from my rg34xxsp

like i'll still use my 34xxsp for portmaster and then i can use this for other stuff

[sharp scaffold]

it's very dogmatic, what integer scale fans want.

every pixel 1:1 with the original format, or else they refuse to play at all

[radiant flicker]

the trend is kinda new, I don't hear much from integer scaling people before the 34xx

[oblique estuary]

dude i could open tcg pocket packs on this thing

just for the love of the game

i wonder if there's a good ereader app that can use both screens

[hushed rampart]

That would be awesome

[oblique estuary]

wasn't able to afford the surface duo back when it dropped but i'm just in time for all the dual screen android handhelds...

[oblique estuary]

wait a sec in theory i could run yume nikki online on the rg ds

that'd go so fucking hard

[visual atlas]

The integer scale argument is as old as this handheld hobby. 🤣 There has always been that group of scaling snobs

[radiant flicker]

there was no expectation of budget device to have integer scaling before the 34xx, there're way more of them now than ever

[brazen osprey]

even from the 351p with the 320p screen that was perfect for gba and awful for everything else we've been talking about this

[wicked latch]

I don't demand integer scaling but I do demand aspect ratio preservation

[brazen osprey]

with the oddball res nds has i kinda demand it here

but i bought it anyway

[radiant flicker]

this must be poison to you 😄

[wicked latch]

AAAAAAAAAAAAUGH

I'll never understand how anyone can play them like that and think it's good

[radiant flicker]

I paid for the whole screen, I'm gonna use the whole screen

[wicked latch]

I have literally had people tell me that with 100% seriousness

They were not joking, they meant it

[radiant flicker]

https://youtu.be/ssluTgfkdlg?si=vPuHtOBHp7xIdL2-
you must enjoy this video

so, are you team 4:3 or team 8:7?

[wicked latch]

It was meant to be played on NTSC and PAL TVs, so 4:3

[cunning turret]

SNES was meant to be plugged into a 4:3 screen. If the devs on a particular game didn't account for the pixels being stretched that's on them.

[wicked latch]

Exactly

[radiant flicker]

so, which one looks better?

[distant jacinth]

Huh, I always thought 8:7 made circles into ovals, not the other way round... I thought I'd seen an example of this with the opening clock ticking of Chrono Trigger, but maybe I misunderstood...or maybe different games implemented it differently

[wicked latch]

Well, most devs compensated for the fact that the aspect ratio didn't match

[distant jacinth]

I guess if I ever get round to properly playing through Super Metroid, I'll use 8:7

[distant jacinth]

Mad how Nintendo aren't one of them lol

[slate coral]

Well I'm playing it on a widescreen device so I added a widescreen hack in retroarch settings by setting it to full.
I've also heard these old games were designed for a crt so I turned that on too.

[wicked latch]

Okay this is just evil lol

[slate coral]

Maybe vertical would be even worse lol

I don't think anyone is accidentally doing that though

[radiant flicker]

I'm ok with the vertical stretch like the cubexx

[wraith snow]

redream might do better

[brazen bloom]

Damn even the UI laggy 😭

Idk why they slapped a14 on this thing with that chip, could’ve done 10 or 11 and called it a day. It’s not like you need the most bleeding edge version for emulation retro stuff anyway, and 10 (maybe 11 too?) has the benefit of no scoped storage

Would’ve ran better on the specs too

[radiant flicker]

the logistic of these companies is complicated. This version of android could be the only one offered by the solution provider to drive dual screen with access to stuff anbernic requires to do their things. We simply don't know

[brazen bloom]

Fair point there, didn’t really think of that

Still, sucks it can’t even handle opening the notification drop down without dropping frames 😂

[valid orbit]

Or you can watch brain rot videos while playing. This would be the ultimate Gen Z device

I can finally watch soap cutting or kinetic sand on the bottom screen while playing pokemon

[sharp scaffold]

every rgCube and rgCubeXX fan enters the room

[visual atlas]

Indeed. That's why I said the integer scaling thing isn't new 😅🍻

[pearl flower]

https://youtu.be/i5RrFhPYNqI?si=1W6CgVrJOZrQ9Tce

[zinc patio]

" I'll have a full review on the way for this "

Never to be seen again

[sharp scaffold]

ETA Prime is too cookie-cutter to do something like that. he -never- breaks formula, but also doesn't stick to just handhelds.

[wraith snow]

Sonic Rush shows some serious lag between the top and bottom screen there

don't know what's up with that but that looked awful

[pallid grove]

"OBJECT is a beast. It's got that ADJECTIVE we really love..." dude is insufferable

[zinc patio]

• an emulation beast*

[brazen bloom]

I'm watching that video rn and came here to say the same thing

Timestamp is between 7:40-7:55ish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5RrFhPYNqI

crazy bad lag between screens, very jarring to look at tbh

[sharp scaffold]

looks fine. not sure what you're talking about. eta also doesn't seem to notice it

[thorn iron]

p sure eta is one of those sloptubers

[sharp scaffold]

most likely his camera shutter catching half frames

you're seeing cmos ghosting

go watch stubbs play some games and see if it shows up

[thorn iron]

i dun wanna

someone gimme 15 second timestamp

honestly wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me if I do end up picking this up but I should probably cut handhelds before buying any more

[grim lion]

My first look video is dropping in a few and you should be able to see the screens a bit easier than on the livestream. I filmed it before the livestream.

[brazen bloom]

If it was that how would both screens be out of sync?

They’re the same screen being captured at the same time by the same camera, they shouldn’t be out of sync at all unless I’m mistaken

[sharp scaffold]

right. you don't know how the shutter works. it scans from top to bottom filling frames in at however fast the video feed will support. if this does not match up exactly with the screen you're filming(or the shutter isn't running fast enough), you get (a) ghosting, (b) top/bottom half frame desync. this only happens on cmos shutters, not ccd's or film which exposes from the outer edges inwards.

also look at anbernic's footage. they used a decent recording rig that doesn't have that going on

best way to record footage would be to run a wire from the rgDS into a recording setup and get raw frames. you'll definitely see if its a system lag issue or not(and if the out-signal is 640x960!)

[brazen bloom]

Fair, but would it really cause the amount of latency seen in the video?

[brazen bloom]

They also didn’t show that game (at least I didn’t see it), the games they did show didn’t have fast paced gameplay that’s supposed to be in sync between screens

[urban oracle]

I think its a mix of the camera recording it, and a small amount of desync between the screens. I think in the hands, it won't be nearly as noticeable, if at all

[grim lion]

https://youtu.be/B-nbDi2M244

[lethal sundial]

I played Sonic Rush, Contra 4 etc. on this and saw no bad desync between screens

[grim lion]

Same here, what do you think of it so far?

[lethal sundial]

I was impressed it could handle Elite Beat Agents in terms of response

performance seems ok but it’s not 100%, there are a handful of problem games at high resolution it seems

from what I’ve played

[junior rapids]

I remember there is some multi thread option for the 3d rendering (that can cause glitches) , is the high res performance issue observed with it on or off?

[lethal sundial]

I think I kept it off, Golden Sun title screen was stuttering somewhat

[sharp scaffold]

anytime someone looks at a camera recording of a device and complains about lag or clicks or whatever, i instantly discard that opinion. there's too many factors in audio-tuning, muxing/demuxing/compression, shutter issues, stream issues, etc. for that to make any practical sense.

straight a/v feed + touching the device answers all user questions

[radiant flicker]

with that very large channel and aggressive sponsors, one would assume ETAPrime could afford better recording equipment

[sharp scaffold]

his Lattepanda review was pretty good. he did that device from box to assembly to bios hacking, os-installing, to benchmarking and gaming.There's a Manjaro linux video coming up on it soon.

[radiant flicker]

want to, don't need it

a N150 mini pc is probably cheaper

nah, I'll stick with $10 S905X boards

[sharp scaffold]

hardkernel has equivalent stuff for cheaper

[radiant flicker]

I'm cheap and poor at the same time 😄

[sharp scaffold]

you can get an Odroid i3-n305 sbc for 220. better use of the money

but yeah... s905 is good if you're strapped, or just dumpster-diving a Dell

[radiant flicker]

well supported, has armbian, all the elec, android tv and emuelec if i ever have to to build an arcade, jack of all trades

[sharp scaffold]

if found an all-in-one moniter pc with an i5-6700t and 16gb of ram this last thursday. will probably put PeppermintOS on it when the sata cable arrives.

[grim lion]

I have yet to find a game that doesn't have problems with high resolution mode turned on. Any recommends?

[radiant flicker]

do you have multi threaded 3d on? that can cause issues

[charred lava]

side thing
im kinda curious about one thing. could you try out the nooDS emulator? https://github.com/Hydr8gon/NooDS

it doesn't have external screen support (i did ask about the dev about it) so it's not practical. im just wondering about the performance

[grim lion]

No, it was causing issues

They leave that off by default

It's tough

[upper fiber]

You ask that like is even possible

Touch screen and dual screen, I don't even believe that anbernic give it the device tree to not have problems with drivers, kernel need to be open too, asking a lot really

The Thor migth get Linux because Ayn published all what you need to build it.

Even if u can build a Linux distro for Ayn all the two screen interaction is not build into Linux

Tall other to ask even to the Thor and crazy to ask that for the anbernic

And even more, why doesn't anbernic make it that have Linux? Or Ayn ....

It is not that simple android has many devices with two screens and most of the things to all work well are built in it.

[upper fiber]

Do you test the last version of drastic someone is modding it, sad the dev never end open it the code

[charred lava]

im not convinced dual screen linux will be better at all