#Anbernic RG477M
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Itās import taxes, you may have to pay at countryās entry.
ahh that would explain it
Yes, that is the only store that ships after aug 13. You can try the other 4 stores, they ship tomorrow. But a few brown ones are sold out and the discount is 10 pounds less because.
I'm happy to wait so not a big issue
What store ? Link ?
Man £167 is good
Thatās an insane deal damn Iām jelly
Wdym insane deal?
That's 222 dollars
isn't that 2 dollars more than what they listed it as?
No it listed around £200-220 usually so £167 is pretty insane for it just being brand new launch
@untold glen nice to have more Brits
why did they list it for so much more in the uk than in the usa?
The UK list price includes VAT. Ali has then taken this off (Price Adjustment -£33.48) due to it costing more than £135, with a warning that VAT may have to be collected on delivery.
The listed price for the US never includes tax, I suppose because it varies so much from state to state
I'm based in London!
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It's under Anbernic's official store on AliExpress - not sure I'd be able to find the exact listing though
Exactly this is the reason, we have vat collected up to 150⬠(for a single item), after that most stores either refuse to sell to us or send it to play the vat lottery upon entry, all shown prices include vat because it's the same for the entire country, in the US every freaking city has different tax rates 
Itās annoying but at least where I live we donāt pay taxes on digital games, same states do charge for that
Whatās the best site to track Ali shipping so I donāt have to keep going to that store?
track17
assuming they arent using some really weird reshippers it picks up most services
Seen the new comparison video from Russ and the lower input lag on this is appealing. It rivals Odin 2 Portal
I wish there was a device that is small and has 120hz OLED screen.
The RP5 would be a no brainer if it was 120hz
Be fun to try Super Mario Galaxy for Wii on this device
I find the 4:3 aspect ratio perfect for playing up to GC/PS2 (and probably Wii) rather than the 16:9. That's what sold it to me
Same, Rogue Squadron 2 run ms surprisingly well with only few stutters at times, comparable to how it was when I tried it on the Steam Deck
š In this video, we make a return to PlayStation 3 emulation but for the first time ever, we will explore the new PlayStation 3 emulator on Android known as RPCSX (originally known as RPCS3) on Anbernic's latest Android handheld, the RG557 (and now the RG447M). The results are better than expected despite RPCSX still very much early in develo...
Ive seen complaints about this chipset. If i dont care for winlator or Switch emulation is it good. For example does this chipset drain more battery running PS2 and GC
In comparison to SD865
I notice the battery capacity is slightly more on this than RP5 so wondering how battery life fares for PS2 and GC in comparison to RP5
If you use the button for AI translation to got to EmuStation instate does that mean you canāt use it at all anymore ingame?
Had a dumb question regarding scaling gc. The dolphin emulator says 2x is 720p and 3x is 1080p so wouldnt we want to use 2.5x upscale for this device?
All the reviews seem to leave it at 2x
Thatās just in reference to what scaling setting you want to use for screens of that resolution
GC natively ran at or a little below 480p
So 2x is ~960p
2x is 1280x1056 
Cheapest I can find shipped to me in the USA with taxes is $228 is that good for the base model ?
Thatās just the image it put out not the actual rendering resolution
Well, they sell it for $219, so yeah
I know 
Thatās what I paid for my 477M
Thanks bro just trying to find the best deal and wondering if they can be found cheaper anywhere
It's funny Bronze is sold out on Anbernics website
The lowest Iāve seen people get it is sub $220 but pretty sure theyāre using coins n whatnot
No, cheapest is ali, there are 5 shops. One ships only next week, one is bronze sold out, so 3 left that ship tomorrow
PSP emulation question: A 16:9 system on a 4:3 screen, should we target 1080p (includes black bars) or 960p (excludes black bars) ?
Itās all subjective and personal preference , just do whatever you prefer most
If cropping messes up key UI and theres no hack to fix it run 16:9
otherwise crop
paid for pixels using em
That's exactly what I had planned to do, but the button swaps are either really shoddy if you 3D print them yourself or stupidly expensive if you buy them from Etsy. The Skittles buttons were just such an awful decision from Anbernic on this one.
I also hope the betterbuttons seller on Etsy creates the shoulder buttons similar to the rg405m
Iām Welsh mate
@untold glen Sent you a friend request
Was that the stacked shoulder buttons mod?
Yeah it was!
Could be good
I liked the inline buttons for the compactness compared to like the RP4 or something, but IIRC that mod still left you with buttons that didnt really protrude past the back of the device
Itās a huge upgrade in quality to upgrade Retroid buttons with resin PSX (or any resin 3rd party design). Iāve found the upgrade is marginal on Anbernic because stock Anbernic is usually really good.
Do you guys think the silver is ugly? I really donāt see why it looks off but I donāt want to buy that color and regret it lol
I like it
I don't know what's up with the hate for silver, that's the one I'd pick
it looks like a blend between something premium and something fun
brown is just basically "almost black", kinda boring
Isn't it more a hate for the button colors than for the silver metal, though?
the silver also looks a lil unfinished
but yeah, the skittles may be the main reason 
don't skittle something that's supposed to be premium
honestly even rainbow oreo are already kinda ewww on such an expensive device
I want to see Sakura modding put PSX on this!
I feel validated, thank you sir
they will for sure, probably already have some buttons that fit, as Anbernic probably used same sized ones from some other device
Are there any AliExpress discount codes right now for over $200 purchases?
hope this is the case & that he'll have some up before the end of the month (tariffs -___-), really hoping to get some of the cherry galaxy ones, think they'd look great over the bronze
I mean you could ask the youtube guys to try which other Anbernic buttons fit and then order those 
yah was hoping one of them might know or post measurements, i've got spare cube/556 ones (& calipers) to check with when my unit comes in at least
I don't see Sakura selling any cherry galaxy ones aside from those for the Chromatic tho... they really look nice tho
looks like he's cleaning up his anbernic section, they were there a few days ago (along with like 40 other listings lol)
he may not be selling too many of them in the first place, as Anbernic has quite decent buttons 
and usually you won't buy some 29⬠PS button set for a 50⬠handheld either
true true, speaking of, doesn't have his PS sets up either atm, he's pretty cool about custom orders either way if you message him tho
I got yu fam, let me know if you need validation for any other preferences
Just the right timingšreally wished Xbox and Vita emulation had made better progress by now too for these devicesš¢
Here's a look back at one of the best years ever in video games - 2001
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:21 - Gran Turismo 3
01:10 - Ico
02:03 - Silent Hill 2
03:01 - Metal Gear Solid 2
04:14 - Devil May Cry
05:08 - Jak & Daxter The Precursor Legacy
06:11 - THPS3
07:06 - Final Fantasy X
08:03 - GTA 3
09:01 - Halo
10:32 - Star Wars Rogue Leader
11:3...
Yeah thereās some killer Xbox games Iād love to play on this
How well would Ico run? I played all of their games except this on the PS2
I played ICO on the 406H and it ran fine it will certainly run on 477m
the d8300 will brute force what can be brute forced really, the games that run into "problems" are those that don't like being emulated or have shit compatibility with the Android emulator, the chip has more than enough headroom to run PS2 and Mali drivers are not really an issue with 6th gen, let alone is the emulator as insanely optimized for SD drivers as Dolphin is to show any noticeable gains with those 
How do you access the ingame translation when you assign its dedicated button to something else?
Just thought it might be useful for stuff like untranslated menus
If you find your tracking number has NL in it i.e it is going through the Netherlands. Then you will 100% be taxed
Royal mail will send you a import charge email once it gets to them
If it doesnāt go via netherlands. Then you have a chance at skipping tax š¤
Skittles make it premium, in my mind.
Premium chocolate bar in silver wrapping
There's no talk about hdmi, does this support hdmi on single screen like rg slide?
not the clunky mirror screen
They showed it in a stream, it mirrors 4:3 so you have to figure out how to change that in the Android dev mode I think.
Is there a list of Vita games than run well on Android?
you are, I think RP Mini V2 is much better š
the mini fits a lot of what im lookin for.. 4:3 aspect ratio in a non gameboy format
theres actually not many things to choose from
hmm just FYI it's actually very close to 8:7 aspect, not 4:3.
close enough better than 16:9
first game ill b playing probably links awakening dx
so its pretty much perfect
i spent like 500 dollars buying all the wario land games for the gbc and gba im sick and tired of paying inflated nintendo prices it isnt fair
i hate nintendo fanboys they r the worst

š been down this road so many times
guess I'm in for some highway robbery then
oh man, I dont want to be that guy, but Wario land games are super cheap when buying in/or shipped from Japan
I think I spent $2 for each Wario Land 1 - 3
Yeah sadly Netherland post are hot on their charges. I have a lot of my AliE orders go through them š currently waiting on my Y700 Gen 4 import charge. Another reason why I held off on 477M for now. Till I can get it from somewhere that ships with 4PX
And only japanese Wario 2 is not in english
but I don't think it really matters as they are not exactly text heavy games ;D
I feel like basically everything that comes from China goes through NL anyway, so well 
Yep š¤¦āāļø
Ive even had them group smaller orders into one to make it over £125
And thus charge me
and certainly not all has been properly taxed tbh, but we will see, don't doubt it that they will want their sweet sweet tax money š
well, maybe they just want to fuck you brits 
They always want to do that š
If Anbernic can make a RG477SP that more pocketable that would be my dream handheld
Because the screen is so big that means the overall device can be thinner to fit the internal components and battery
I get more accurate shipment infos from Ali than 17trackš¤
Current status is now āshipment on the wayā
I use an app called āAftershipā it sends me notifications for each step on the journey. So i donāt have to keep manually looking it up
i usually use parcelapp
Disgusting
New driver + slight UV on GPU
Sale ended yet?
Thanks that worked!
Nice guide to get started!
Updated graphics driver and some performance tweaks.
I actually suck at playing games by the way.
You speak into the 477mās microphone and a chinese man from the CCP will start reading the translated text into English.
Is that always 100% taxed, NL ?
Are we back?
Yes, it is in Fengang Town!
In my experience yes!
I think I've had packages go through NL untaxed, but can't say for certain
4PX usually comes straight to UK without detours and avoids tax
But yeah over 100 handhelds in. 100% of the over £125 ones i have ordered via AliE have been taxed when going through NL
Unless they have a 4px or cainiao option
My Y700 Gen 4 is with NL Post atm. Looking forward to that tax bill š
This is UK though, other countries may be fine with NL post
ouch š i wonder how big the damage is xD
On the vita3k site in the compatibility area?
16 euro plus ca. 20% of 186 euro is 53 euro
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VIta has a weird compatibility pattern. Slow arm to x86 conversion but high x86 gpu compatibility. Fast arm to arm conversion but mid arm gpu compatibility.
solution run it on a Pi5 with an EGPU 
For CFW stuff, yes
sounds like the arm version is the most likely to get better over time
To those in the comments saying to "just get an RP5" I raise you to " just use your phone bro"
Perfect come back
I actually do not have a phone anymore and itās the best thing I ever did , well I should say smart phone
based
Nah, just get an Odin 2, itās only $60 more.
(For those unaware, this is an obvious /s).
Odin 2 is always the choice when you go over $200 
You get so much more for that price
Except Customer Service, but you were Sacraficing that by getting an Anbernic Anyway
You lose out on oled though
Spend $100 more and OLED is back
Also on having an actually good screen in general due to it having more ghosting than a $300 handheld should, having pretty damn bad input latency, and in general not being well supported in terms of customer service (and thatās not getting into the bit where you likely will flat out not even get customer service if you get it used).
Like I said, the /s is obvious.
Itās painfully obvious why the Odin 2 is so cheap
I disagree with this on the grounds that $300 aināt cheap.
I mean compared to other 8g2 devices
Fair enough then, especially if Konkrās handheld turns out to legit actually be $310-$340.
If that happens, weāll literally have $300-$320 as the price point for G3 Gen 3 handhelds without anything like OLED, 1440p scaling, or excessively detailed aluminum frames for essentially just decoration (which is what I expect AYANEO to keep doing so that none of their own name brand G3 Gen 3 handhelds are in the same price range if that becomes the case).
Imma wait for the non metal version of this. Itāll probably have some quality of life improvements. Perhaps better triggers and more ergonomic finish
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Yeah, that ain't gonna happen
maybe next gen though
478H with a dimensity 9000 something
Do they think the 8:7 screen in the rg slide and the 477m is too niche to bother making another device for?
The slide and the 477m are already so niche⦠I donāt get it
it's 4:3
Maybe heās taking the question literally⦠because Iām sure a non metal version of the 477m, that is, a new device that uses the same screen, and the same gpu would technically be different unit
Okay my bad 4:3 but I still mean what I said
I dont think modern 8:7 panels exist and having something completely new made is insanely expensive
Ok forget I said 8:7 lol sorry
too expensive. not too niche. they wont put this in a budget handheld
bad for profit margins
UhhhhHH
Well I aināt asking for a budget handheld. But now that I think about it some more I guess they could do a version of the rg557 with the new display in the rg slide and 477m?
So basically a 557 but a different screen
if there would be another device with the screen it would be a 477v.
and even that is unlikely because the slide is already kind of a vertical handheld
this isn't going to happend for this gen anymore, maybe for the 478, if anything
Im not familiar with all the models but id the 478 is another horizontal format Iām all for it
I just want more devices with 120hz displays or even higher preferably
95ms of latency is pushing what is acceptable for me personally. The 120hz screen in the 477m drops it all the way down to 65ms of latency
Which is barely noticeable to most people tbh
they had the screen custom made.
so they probably wanna reuse it as many times as possible in the future to make as much out of their initial investment as they possibly can.
Alrighty cool
So the guy saying there wonāt be a non metal version of the 477m is kind of not true but is if he took the question literally
Well definitely see a new device with the screen that is more mainstream
while I'm 100% this statement by their lead designer / engineer or even product owner whatever you want to call him guaranteed no 477p at the time....
... low sales and lots of backlash can always make them change their minds and adapt to people's demand
Maybe in another 5 years weāll have handhelds with 5.5ā screens edge to edge. Zero bezels, 240hz, 4k resolutions with Apus strong enough to run crt shaders at 4K + runahead
Oh wait those already exists itās called desktops
except for the fact that desktops aren't handhelds
Ya Ik ik im just realizing itās kinda silly to want my handheld to do all these things when I can just do it on my desktop
I literally havenāt even tried to do a crt shader in 4K resolution on my lg oled yet I really ought to
Something about playing handheld makes it way better thoā¦
No sometimes means yes

Like when gamma was asked if he could crack the bootloader..
This is the same man who said the last H700 handheld would be the 40XX H. Iām not even gonna pretend the whole āno sometimes means maybeā bs, Iām just calling bullshit immediately.
Was that actually max or some other rep?
True, he could be the one who instead said the RG40XX V would be the last oneā¦or the one who said that about the RG CubeXX.
Hell, I already know for a fact that he himself said that the RG ArcXX would be the next one made after I think the 40XX V, and also would be the last one made. Aka, the RG ArcXX that hasnāt actually been released yet.
This is a custom made 4:3 screen by BOE. The Best screen company in the world. Max Zhou had to pay a few hundred thousand dollar for a few thousand screens, he aināt getting them for $5 each (including developmencosts). To get his money back Max is gonna sell a few $250 handhelds first and then he will start selling the masses for $180 , $140 and eventually $100 and $75. Max is gonna milk this screen as much as he can.
Unlikely, as very few of these companies can afford to have screens made
i can foresee a 447p with analog stick on top and analog triggers to differentiate itself, but i think the metal version is probably gonna be the only candybar style one. maybe something with a lesser soc like the rg35xxh
using a single frame of runahead should bring the latency down to original hardware levels!
Nah there will be more ācandybarā style ones. I suspect the screen is a little too large to do vertical format unit
I see. Itās interesting to see the insights into the manufacturing process and such
So heās got to sell 1,000 $200 units to make his money back on just the screen
Or something like that
Any more insights
Im curious if they sell more vertical or landscape orientation units
More like 20,000 units
Does that mean this screen is just 'out there' now? Like tech wise
Like will we see it used by another company in a year?
Or is it he bought 1000 screens and stocked them to use as Anbernic and thats one and done
Warms my heart he me mentioned the 477 for all the devices I got it specifically for š„°
Here are my current favorite handhelds to play each major emulated system.
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sometimes companies do arrange exclusive deals (ie x purchases over x years w/ no competition for that time)
Doesnt happen often in this space but afaik it has happened once.
Anbernic does have the buying power to do it for sure
Custom OLED must be really expensive then if even Valve didnāt go for a 120hz screen in their OLED model, but 90hz is nice too for someone whoās only familiar watching in 60fps til then
Yup like millions upfront expensive for full custom oled panels
Thats why everyone recycles older/available screens.
iirc its only like $500-1000ish (on time fee per bulk order) to have them remanufactured for different cables to suit your purchase
and generally speaking the panels are fairly cheap to continually produce after the initial contract
OLED 120hz with vrr is the sweet spot
Unfortunately runahead isnt available for PS2, GC, Wii, PSP, 3DS as those run on standalone emulators. And Android versions of many of those emulators have additional input lag compared to Windows versions. For this reason I play these systems on my Ally X which has a 120hz and advantage of running the Windows versions of these emulators.
But yeah for input lag 1 runahead frame is enough to bring the lag down to manageable levels this is why I only own a RP Classic for retro games up to PS1
Legion go 2 is about to cost a small fortune
lenovo can afford it
But that screen sizeš¤¤
lenovo 2023 fiscal year they were 21'st by largest revenue of any tech company
they made more money than nvidia that year
no one thinks it but laptop market is massive and they do mad numbers
Unfortunately OLED VRR isnāt as good as IPS VRR due to how OLED works. Itās not like itās flat out awful, but there are issues that crop up like OLED being way more prone to VRR Flicker.
The amount of real estate youād have to mortgage to finance R&D for a display like that..
its the best thing Retroid makes but if possible I'd say hold out for something better maybe a mini V3 or a 407H
I feel I've done like a 180 on retro handhelds recently. I was all in on the Odin 2 (and then the Odin 2 Portal) but then got overwhelmed with what you can do with it. Now with the RG477M, I've shifted from the handheld that can do everything to a handheld that I have a purpose for (aka a portable PS2/GameCube).
(although I started with the RG405m)
I loved Nintendo but their price practices are pushing me away also im getting bored of their ip's they need to shake it up even more than DK.
ā¦Do me a favor and look up how much Tail Concerto, DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3, and just about most Dreamcast games costs.
You can blame them for modern switch game prices, but you canāt blame anyone but the reseller market and the collection hobby community for how much old games cost.
that's the conclusion the smart ones come to. I find it best to have a PC handheld and a good 4:3 Retro hanheld.
two weeks later
Charging $70 for TOTK was my breaking point for me a decided to just jailbreak my Switch, I still wanna get a S2 but maybe once the OLED version is out or at least a revised one with better battery and proper HDR
No what you want is a 406H with this screen and chip. I've seen So many in different ways describing a desire for that device to exist, its got the ergonomics its got the stacked shoulder buttons its got a compact form factor and plastic build it just needs this screen and chip and its an endgame device.
Yup, hence why I refuse to go into the rabbit hole of trying to have a perfect handheld for every single console and handheld. Itās nothing but a waste of money when you could get a good widescreen or 3:2 handheld for most stuff, and then a 1:1 or 31:27 handheld for the rest.
Iāve got way too many handhelds that I just donāt even use anymore because of that, and among the ones I donāt use is literally all my 4:3 stuff (since I just end up playing them on 16:9, 3:2, or even 31:27 instead if Iām already using one of those).
I accepted the shoulder button compromise on the 477 to slide it in my pockets easier, if I want more ergonomics I can always get a grip case that I can take off again like I did with most of my handhelds
I have a Switch 2 and I'm already about to sell it. got BOTW running 80fps on steam deck now with lossless scaling it looks so beautiful I'll just wait until the Switch 2 generation is over and emulate what want on Steam Deck 2
How exactly are you running the game on the Steam Deck at that fps and at 1x resolution?
Answer the question.
All thatās doing is making me more suspicious on how.
Lossless scaling frame generation
i did "Lossless scaling" its a new app
probably 40fps w/ 2x frame gen
nah bro I locked it at 60 because 80 dips a little but its great
ā¦So the same thing as Switch 2, but now with emulation graphical errors and the other usual weirdness?
yeah crazy
Yeah I don't think I would use it, seems like that would add a lot of latency
its not just BOTW it works on all games
if there is its not a noticeable amount of latency feels the same
definitely worth the trade off
No shit, the literal only emulator I can think of that would even support 60fps on the Steam Deck is something like Yuzu, whichā¦
On my legion go I only get low 50s on botw
lol its really not bad
you oughta use lossless scaling
This is obviously exaggerated (albeit based on what Yuzu in fact did exactly with games like Sonic Colors Ultimate and successfully gaslit people into thinking itās that bad), but Iāve already had my grievances with Switch emulation being flat out awful unless you play the most popular games.
idk how to set it up on legion go but theres lots of instructionals on youtube at least for Steam Deck
It always ends up feeling off in my experience
I use Ryujinx to emulate on Switch Ihavent tried many of the games on there but the ones i did like SuperMario3d World Bowesers Fury ran very well
Same here, especially when you try using a more accurate emulator like Ryujinx.
Oh I was talking about lossless but that too
Mario games for the most part run fine, but the second you try something like SMTV or even XC3, it falls off hard. And the less said about Sonic Colors Ultimate (where people managed to successfully gaslight everyone into believing the pirated gameplay on an emulator that wasnāt updated to support it is accurate to actual switch gameplay, leading to the Yuzu devs never bothering to actually update the emulator), the better.
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the BOTW footage ive found is outdated i want to upload my own at some point
It has been a while since I used it so maybe it's gotten better since then, might try it out
they added adaptive target for frame gen which is pretty great new feature
gives it a bit more flexibility on low end hardware to go lighter/heavier on gen'd frames as needed.
Still sucks that it can only work on framebuffer tho
I want to work consoles out of my life and just rock a PC a Steam Deck and my 4:3 Anbernic
Iāve been thinking about looking into Switch emulation again, last time was like 2 years ago when I got the LCD version, Mario Wonders would look amazing in that screen
Itās pretty easy right?
Yeah its not hard just follow a guide on youtube if help is needed thats what I did
I would just use it for less demanding games anyway, Metroid Dread is another one I really wanna play in OLED
I have not looked into frame-gen for the Deck, itās seems a bit overwhelming with constant updates and another timesink for tinkeringš
I always have fun tinkering with my deck š
I have owned more than 100 handhelds since 2001, and i can tell you now. The best āsmall. Handheld is the Retroid Pocket Mini . The best ānormalā handheld is the Retroid Pocket 5. The best ābiggerā handheld is the Odin 2 Portal. The 477 will be the best 4:3 only handheld, but it might be too Heavy. The Plastic 477 will surely be the Best Handheld to Beat āem All
whether you get a 4:3 or a 3:2 is apples and oranges but two to encompass Retro/Modern is the way to go
you set up a 16:9 device and got used to using it for everything I guess theres nothing wrong with that but I like the idea of PC handheld for lounging and a complimentary 4:3 thats maybe pocketable
You truly can have it all
to me its close but thats a fine choice. I wish I could give it to the 406H I prefer its looks and its aspect ratio but its just lacking a bit in power
hoping Anbernics soon to announce the 407H tho
It could have been the 406h for me, but i am a dpad on top for anything less than 16:9 games
I prefer sticks on bottom as well but offset sticks are acceptable if the device has ergonomic grips like this one.
406v stays winning
Vertical handhelds are uncomfortable to hold
Lmao thatās the picture I had in mind when playing with my 40XXV and wished for better ergonomics without shelling for a vertical 4inch screen handheldš¤£
But the Pocket mini does look extremely nice coupled with OLED, I might get it one day when thereās like a v3
I donāt find the 406v uncomfortable at all
More gamepad like ergo than my horizontals.
My thing is this costs as much as the win600 but still can't play nearly as much
rp5 can actually delve pretty hard into the x86/xbox category though so I get the "just get an rp5 bro" lads
But the 'just get a RP5 or Steam Deck" bros are so annoying though.
The other thing that concerns me with verticals is that I use my pinky on the bottom for grip, but itās not a natural way to hold and may cause physical problems down the road like chronic pain
Screen is better on this than on the WIN600. It also plays PS2 better than the WIN600.
WIth exception of games that had windows DVD releases. Sort gog by 2001-2006
If you need to attach a grip, something is wrong with your design
Everyone has different size hands, everyone has different levels of mobility issues, everyone is different.
There is no such thing as a perfectly shaped handheld for everyone and people need to abandon this idea that if someone out there needs a grip it's not built right.
I'm convinced the 406v grip is a joke though
I (politely) got into this with Russ because his argument was the (RP5, I think) was too flat and I was like, "Okay? It's easier to add a grip to a flat handheld than flatten one with grips built-in.
I do kinda hate the rp5/o2portal method of 'lets do ergo bumps but tiny ones that do at least as much harm as good'
either do full controller ergo or just give me a flat slab imo
he who chases two rabbits catches neither
Case in point, I had a 406v and it was torture to hold despite numerous people telling me it was so comfy. I got the 40XXv and that to me is the comfiest vert I've ever owned.
I have a slim case on my Switch with small grips but still makes a big difference with comfort, best part is you can dock and remove joycons without removing the case
the 406V looks comfy with the eyes because its a chunker, its just cramped though GameBoy meet The FatBoy
I don't find it cramped but my hands are a solid medium glove size
if you have large hands I could see it being shitty
but I also like verticals in general
Yeah it has a generally good layout. Screen away from the controls, hands cupped around grips just like the 405v
I don't think my hands are that big, but I do have a touch of arthritis, so wrapping my fingers around those grips probabaly triggers it.
there are cases where the half measure can work though, the RP Mini being a shining example, very minimal grips that allows for pocketability but still adds something over the flat slab
that's fair, there is more of a curve in than on most larger horizontals (and infinitely more than on any flat slab)
BULBOUS
Donāt try erasing past history. Thereās 1 more handheld that deserves to be mentioned with those 2.
Trimui brick?
ā¦Odin 2.
Jesus Christ, how the hell did people forget that easily?
Idk I've seen a lot of people disregard the odin 2 because of the steam deck
Hell, a lot of Android gaming handhelds get disregard due to the Steam Deck.
I saw way too many people suggest an Odin 2 instead of the RP5 or Flip 2 ābecause itās only $80 moreā before either of those 2 even released to even act as if they werenāt being annoying about the price, completely ignorant of the Steam Deck comparison because āitās lighter and smallerā. I had to explain multiple times over that āsome people just want something smallerā to people who would just say ābut Odin 2 plays everythingā.
I am not letting those guys get away with the fact that they used to be just as annoying as, if not more annoying than, the Steam Deck Bros.
I seriously can't wait for Valve to mention that they're making a smaller, lighter Steam Deck just to see some of their reactions to it.
im in for the indie boy or whatever they call it
It'd be cool if anbernic decided to get back into x86 handhelds
lmao don't try to push a game to 120fps
Yeah, that looks about right for games that based the game speed on framerate.
If it was something like.... An n200 in the Ayaneo slide body. I could see that doing well
if they do it should be a clamshell, enough room for the touchpads and all in the meantime the 477m is my Steam Deck Pocket
I'm just amazed PS3 has come such a long way on Android so quickly
I wish the deck was higher res and Iād be on that train too
Emulating on PC is just so much better than on mobile platforms in terms of options and emulators available
Not to mention all the indies and older pc titles
But the lcd deck screen is just plain bad and the OLED deck screen is not amazing for emulation other than MS DOS and GBA imo
Lenovo needs to make a Legion Go Mini.
Too many choices in the current market. The average user is moving on to the next handheld before they grow attached and learn everything about their current ones.
Would an android rhythm game like Muse Dash run in 120fps here? Higher fps is always an advantage with those.
i like my ally for emulation its just so bulky and low battery. but 1080 is a good enough res for my needs and 120 hz is nice for bfi
I just wish it were 16:10
it has those big bezels top and bottom
they could fit a 1200p slightly larger screen in the same shell
I have an X but as is I don't use it for emulation only for pc games
its great for Cemu its cool seeing Nintendo games baked in SteamOS ..as they should be
I've no objections to the Steam Deck resolution. perhaps I'm a pleb but it looks plenty sharp to my eye at the screen size it is.
Iām just spoiled by my 1600p y700, 1890p laptop, and 2064p iPad when it comes to CRT shaders
this is ultimately why i went with OXP
they were the only company at the time selling cheap 12th-gen intel handhelds with good battery life
if anbernic shat out something budget-ish like a 6" i7-1165g7 to underdog the MSI Claw, that would be neat. aim no higher than 400 usd
Iām just a sucker for the pure black in OLED and vivid colors, it makes HDR pop even more if itās a decent panel like on the SD, itās like having a mini version of my LG OLED TV
aye. the 556's and 557's screens are pretty crisp like that
So what's the thought on them releasing a plastic version of this?
I really don't need metal
We donāt know but donāt count on it for now
Iām just gonna pretend I have a small retro-futuristic crt in my pocketš
Yeah. I have a metal KT-R1. It's beautiful but the extra weight and coldness of the shell just have me reach for it less
Wonder if any of the other devices using this screen outside the ace will actually release
Too bad the GKD little is about 4 years out. Think that was my fav
Just such a fan of the single stick
5 Years difference in Anbernic's metal handhelds
The sticks were more recessed in the old one?
Yeah. Don't get me wrong. It looks sick
The 350M used inset switch sticks
I don't hate metal. I have some favs
Anbernic likes RGB now
rgb wouldn't effect the height
yeah i guess
Like on the PSP?
nice I just ordered them today
Does someone know the exact dimensions of just the screen itself like height and width?
does hdmi out work on your build?
I haven't tried.
busy with other parts first
its non-existent in the official build
since they dont advertise hdmi out
i watched the livestream, they had to go to dev options and screwed everything up LOL
its missing this
this is on RG Slide
they show it connected to a display for dual-screen use, so video out must be working in some form
wow ps3?! Have you tested winlator on this chipset? Would be awesome to run GTA5
yea, watched the livestream, it only mirrors
no dedicated hdmi out like nintendo switch
It does run GTAV through PS3, seen a few people showing it off
really? link please
its using winlator or rcps3?
did u get scammed or just not pay attention 
definite scam. the chipset is powerful enough for ps3
why do streaming
technically it probly is powerful enough for a lot of ps3, but the emulator just isnt there yet
as for why streaming, its a cool feature tbh
has any youtuber tested winlator?
the odin portal is even better at streaming fyi
its nothing special, even 35xx devices can do streaming lol
trimui smart
you have trouble streaming gta 5 to a 35xx probly š
Why would you want to stream on a 35xx device..
exactly, nothing special
But hey, I also do some pushing on my devices.
honestly i wouldnt stream to anything less than 720p personally, you dont have the resolution for modern games
Not a lot of folks barely have the 477M in their hands yet.
@topaz ermine winlator please
wait for that
And when they do, not a lot of them would touch Winlator let alone test games on it.
Someone else should test this, I'm working on development now
Due to the mental gymnastics that Winlator can be for some people.
i wouldnt expect gamma to test an emulator unless he was going to push the envelope for a specific game
I donāt speak Spanish so I wasnāt sure what the text saidš
GTA is running on the Anbernic RG477M, the metallic, premium console.
streaming?
or native
gamehub IS streaming
Doesn't Gamehub also use some aspects of Winlator or no?
GameSir GameHub
does the stock OS break native android online games as anbernic has a track record of rooting their devices making online games with anti-cheat unable to run
I don't know my friend, you are better off asking one of the reviewers
I am a developer
I don't have stock on my unit anymore, I'm working on CFW
gamma does firmware and OS stuff guys, hes busy on the classic anyway 
nice, just asking if you could take a look and make it un-root in your build
yuck, never streaming
Hmm, Gamehub is a "versatile gaming platform with PC emulators, cloud gaming, and streaming".
never gamehub, use apollo and artemis
no to all streaming
Does this mean itās on flight to the states now?
I use Apollo and Artemis as well.
Yes.
whats your youtube channel?
I donāt have a channel
usually, its probly still 3-7 days out depending on where you are in the US and how long it sits at customs
why not, retrogamecorp earns $50k per video he makes and get free handheld on top of that
That's not true.
socialblade
Yeah customs is my only worry, Iām somewhat close to the largest airport on the Westcoast
good thing its 5 am and bedtime i cant handle the delusions this late 
Oh my apologies, SocialBlade is the most honest YouTube income platform in the world.
its not accurate but gives a ballpark number
Very small fraction of people make a living off YT, itās super competitive
maybe side hustle?
itās like twitch, you have to put so much time and money and can take a long time to build and audience
Most people are here for the love (and possibly an obsession) with cool handhelds.
lol read the girl that earned 1million when she turned 18 by releasing her onlyfans page
da fk
Also I can't imagine how terrifying it would be for some people to know your face.
bruh for $1 million
and that's day 1
Getting money like that costs at many costs
Those that can do and have people watching over them and their wellbeing, good for them.
you mean tax? yea she would get 500k from it is my guess
but still 500k
Well Iām not doing of haha, it be easy money butā¦.repercussion for life
you mean burn in hell when they die?
How come you don't like streaming on your devices?
nah I donāt believe in that, just not comfortable bearing everything to strangers
I think we almost lost the plot for a bit
kinda lol
I streamed stadia for a bit for free and it worked surprisingly well
at home I stream PS5 on my Steam Deck in bed but there is interference at times, probably need a new router
It says on their website...GameHub has both: a PC Emulator feature & a Streaming Feature
Gamehub is what we called in the industry as flexible.
On the Retrlid 4 Pro, and Probably other Mali device, it has some of the best Performace for PC gaming
he is hiding that its gonna be different shell aka Arc :-p || please ||
the Arc sold poorly, I doubt you will ever get another one
Someone was asking about HDMI
Apparently removing the grill makes the fan sound less whiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9atLB24NqA&t=1123s
My rambling somewhat coherent opinions on the RG 477M system, wherein I complain about its loud cooling fan for 20 minutes and make an attempt to improve it.
RG Slide review on LGR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAflIvXxMk8
00:00 here's the thing
00:51 better than the Slide
01:57 still not ideal
03:58 the FAN...
04:56 God of War PSP
10:08 bri...
did anyone see the lgr video on the 477m
i left a kind of rude comment lol i hope he reads it. he probably will since all youtubers are obsessed with the comments on their videos
The device would def sell better and wouldāve made more profit if it uses plastic while reducing the price by $20 and engineer the fan better to reduce that wine.
i wonder if he got a defective unit cus nobody else mentioned the fan noise
Most reviews mention it.
oh i see i didnt hear rgc mention it at all in his video
Iāve just been watching every video I can find searching for it while waiting for mine to arriveš
Apparently there will be some fan curve adjustment in a future update
He did mention that the fan is loud in the video, and there is also a recording of the fan noise at the 22min mark
its wonderful when people read things š
all this is making me very tempted to pick one up š
The weight thing does make me a bit nervous though.
Street Fighter IV Turbo
yeah metal handhelds are hefty bois
Ughhh...... everyone mentions how loud the fan can get in every video I watched so far
hmm doesn't seem that bad to me
You probably don't use max fans or whatever its called
Or do you ?
They must use a different fan than the one on the RG557 because that isn't as loud
confirsm to me that if they dd sega version of it i would grab it
Looks to be a LineageOS feature, can probably disable that prompt I'm sure
People at the LineageOS discord server told me that it's a stock android thing
Ah ok
𤣠𤣠š¤£
Shit sign me up, I'll do YT vids for that kind of money š¤š°
GammaOS would have to wait
Right?!?! š š
Maybe I could afford Ayaneo devices then
I've never tried winlator, no idea where to start
Would maybe like to try FF7:R on this
Hmm maybe once I have some time
I was about to say don't expect much with Winlator on here. Mediatek is not great for Winlator despite some advancements there. I've been doing testing with Winlator and Gamehub and it's about what I expected, very hit or miss... emphasis on the miss. š
Can these devices switch the screen to 50hz say for PAL Amiga emulation?
Or we fixed at 60/120hz?
Thatās been the case for a long time.
There was a guy who got 50hz working on a Linux build for 353 and running Amiga games.
Itās a game Amiga has been neglected in the retro thing. Only the euros and Britās know
I could do 50hz if this wasn't mediatek
Problem with MTK is that the display driver is a kernel module which also contains the timings. And we have no sources...
So I can only modify the existing timings by hacking at the kernel module, so would change 90hz to 100hz as the easiest path forward
That would be great. But you have a lot in your plate already.
No promises, but will see what I can do
Yes please?
Iām glad someone remembers PAL systems.
Thank you
PAL, what's that, do you want me to play games in German? 
Please don't force me to play Secret of Mana like that 
Lmfao
Lmao even
time to play sonic 1 in its full PAL glory
Comparación de velocidades entre el Sonic The Hedgehog en su versión NTSC (60Hz) y PAL (50Hz).
ROM de Mega Drive
Emulador: Generator.
you need an adreno gpu for that
ah no chance with mali then? š
oh well
mali is weird. directx 8 and down? nigh perfect. directx 9? half/half games won't crash on load. anything over? nope.
if you're willing to dig through gog and set it up, you can play some old pc 7th-gen gems:
https://youtu.be/2KbUuSmt594
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I was really looking forward to seeing Amiga with bfi on this thing!
iāve never messed with winlator. do 2d indie games tend to work better on mali devices? or is it just down to whatever graphics api that games particular engine is using?
depends on the fork of winlator(base, bionic, mali, cmod, afeimod, ajay, frost, etc.) what the gpu supports, what the winwrapper supports, etc.
Gotta go slow
do you think itās worth messing with for more modern indie games? or do you just stick to pre dx9 stuff? being about to play ābarkley shut up and jam: gaidenā on the go is already good enough for me
if you have the time in patience, yeah. some of the t820 device users reported Winlator Frost being about to do a bit of directx 10 stuff, but i personally haven't been interested
Ok, so as-is itās not too important for something like my handheld, but in case Iām not the only person who only just now realized this was in the Dual screen optimized version of MelonDS (which frankly is just an actual updated version of MelonDS in general), there is now the option to set the Red screen as being on top of the blue screen by default as well as reducing the alpha of the screen to make it see-through. This isnāt as useful on the Pocket Ace since I already have 3:2 and can mostly just have enough of the screen on the side, but itās freaking huge for 4:3 android devices, and I just wanted to share it on here since, well, you guys would definitely enjoy the info more.
Long story short, this should function the same as those 2 layouts for Advanced-Drastic on MuOS and Drastic-Steward for OnionOS, which makes it way easier to set the screens up in a manner that makes the top screen be full size on 4:3 handhelds while still having the bottom screen visible.
My rambling somewhat coherent opinions on the RG 477M system, wherein I complain about its loud cooling fan for 20 minutes and make an attempt to improve it.
RG Slide review on LGR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAflIvXxMk8
00:00 here's the thing
00:51 better than the Slide
01:57 still not ideal
03:58 the FAN...
04:56 God of War PSP
10:08 bri...
HEAVY
WARM
NOISY
Lol
Noisy definitely is new due to the fan, but yeah both Heavy and Warm were also tradeoffs in the RG405M.
Then why does 1kg metal weigh as much as 1kg feathers??
186⬠sounds fine
it sounds like a vacuum cleaner
the 557/556 never sounded like a vacuum cleaner. the cube and 406h were even more silent.
Yup, hence why I was pointing out the obvious in that this was also something the RG405M had, with the reason being something that should not need explanation.
How much less do you think this device would be if it was plastic?
somewhere from 50 to 100g
the rg406h is 260g ish, the Pocket Ace is 300g
you can extrapolate from there
but for me the problem with metal is not the raw weight per se but the fact that it feels very dense
Sorry I meant price but actually the weight is more important now you mention it š¤£
believe the plastic shell would need reinforcement in several areas, so I expect Anbernic to take the opportunity to release a different design instead.
More akin to the 406h I bet
I mean ... do that (make one almost exactly like the 406H) and it's immediately the best 4:3 handheld for PS2 games?
It was 3 hours
How much does one make with videos. This girl, chonny , is a 21 year old girl from Manilla. 3 years ago she posted a video on how much she was making. She made $1,700 a month with 50k subs. But that is a girl that makes cutes videos for girls (and old pervs). The thing is, these girls donāt use adblockers so every view is $$$. With us, 95% use adblockers, so the youtubers in tech make less money, even with 200k subs. Here is Chonnie: https://m.youtube.com/@Chonnie/videos
Adsense target marketing pays easily 4x for female demographics
And Chonnie made only a few videos each month. It took her 8 months to go from 0 views with 0 subs to 50k subs with a few million views a month
If I would guess what Russ makes i think it is a few hundred dolkars per video with $1,000 per top video
But he makes a good living of it and rightfully so, he is the best. From zero to this in 5 years is great.
Chonnie stopped making videos and only makes shorts with partnerships. She is making a couple of grands a month now which is huge in manilla where average salary is less than $300
Thanks! ChatGPT even drew a comparison between the SteamDeck OLED screen and this oneš¤Æ
His videos are just pure, quality comfort food staring with the soothing intro.
Yes, what did we have 5 years ago? Sonic Love , the Wicked Gamer and not much else lol
another 2 comparisons with the Switch v1 and the 3DSXL top screen
Except for the protruding sticks. I actually prefer using sticks for controls ā especially for arcade-style shooters - but the ones on the 406 have so much travel that they don't feel right for retro systems.
PS: I just measured them. They stick 1 cm (0.4') above the shell.
basically the 406H with 477m's chip and screen AND recessed sticks
Best Retro Endgame period.
Anbernic inches closer
But until then this'll do
Go to the next step, it will apply the coins, a discount coupon (ā¬15) and import taxes. I got 221⬠with the extra bag.
Yes, we got 185 last week
Basically itās all 20 bucks more now
Just seen my tracking number ends in NL so I'm getting cooked
I mean worst case, it still only costs me just north of £200
No, 35. No $30 but $15 discount from ali also
Plane ride to my destination from HK is 13h so it should arrive soon but damn, such a long flight
only customs will be a deciding factor for time then
so close and yet so far away
reminds me of that one song from the Enchanted movieš¢
Not going to happen in 100 years!!!
Best bet is to buy one of these and pair it up
The stuff I ordered at the same time to get the $30 discount on Ali just landed in my country.
this just reminds me of how pissed I am at Retroid for doing megadrive colors on their classic 6
When wanted the pocket classic I liked the yellow one the most as I thought the only 6 button variant was ugly but that black one looks damn sexy now, especially with the OLED
only Sega consoles I owned was the Mega Drive II and Dreamcast
why pissed?
cuz this
just give me a DIY kit with all black buttons for fucks sake
can confirm that is absurd amount here. She is in the high upper class bracket
chd and rvz files work on this one right?
.yes she is, but i must say she has a really beautiful soothing voice
i just toyed with idea of getting my GF to do this, if i just write her a script etc, but probably not something you can really do unless you're super passionate about it
Should your Boyfriend Buy Another Ambernic?
We could do that
I've had that idea before, start a youtube channel about gaming stuff but be a ghost writer and have some pretty girl as the face of the channel for views
?
i feel like it's gonna be obvious, like you can feel there isn't the passion there
now i could pay for my GFs nails and buy her a mechenical keyboard and make her tap tap tap and im sure we could get away with that
'this is not authentic ASMR you can tell she's faking it' not gonna get comments like that
yeah probably true
Ah sorry š¦ there is a small chance. But in my experience anything that goes through NL gets taxed
Already in the U.S! way to go Aliexpress/Anbernic
Anyone? Wanna make sure I can use my existing stuff.
cant say for certainty I haven't used any compressed roms, but i reckon theyre fine
This device is making me buy new pants lol
They work.
Crossbody bags can also be good for larger handhelds
XBox Elite DPad mod
ooooh
I wonder how strong those magnets are and how hard that mod is. Iād love to replace that back half with a plastic one. It would be easy and prob shave off around 50g.
With a case youād only see the front anyway.
There's no plastic case mods for anbernics prior metal model
Or if there is I couldn't find one
So I wonder if anyone will make for this one. Depends bow popular it is I suppose
yeah meant for the future. Iām also waiting for a skinny grip case.
I donāt speak Spanish but I can tell he really, really like the colorš
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Itās the bronze one, idk why thumbnail shows the wrong model
Is something like a performance overlay that shows power draw and how long the remaining charge will last?
Seeing him holding it next to his face gave me a better idea how large it really in practice.
its at least a 3 head 
2019: switch lite
2025: switch chode
Tue color does remind a bit of the sugar they but on churrosš¤
a handheld that doesn't have an optimal display for sega stuff sounds weird
but it makes sense when you consider that the lg wing screen is literally the only good small oled screen available
next option would be 16:9
Optimal display for Sega?
sega content is clearly not the best for like a ~10:9 aspect ratio
you need proper 4:3
but it's the best we got as of now
but it has a 4:3 screen? Or are we talking about the pocket?
just a minute ago we were talking about the rp classic
The way he talks really gets on my nerves.
so yea i bought a rp mini v2 instead of the 477m
basically saved myself over half the money
Conspiracy theory: ambernic paid the YouTubers to talk about black frame insertion.
I had no idea what it was last week and now I need a device with it or else
I feel bad to say but I have the RP pocket mini V2 and I still want the 477m but not metal šš
tbh i plan on getting an abernic device too eventually i rly want a 120hz display for the 30-35ms of latency improvement you get with the higher refresh rate
Exactly
Me too
I love RP pocket mini for gba and retro stuff but for console stuff I find the screen just too small
Psx is okay but PS2 I'm just squinting so hard
i cant play shmups or games with precise platforming like super ghouls n ghosts on stuff with 30+ms more latency then og hardware
I mean BFI isnt new, its just relatively new to RA (like 6mo) and this is the first screen that can really make good use of it
I recently tried to emulate ratchet and clack and could feel how I pressed x and the character jumped a whole second later
I never used to care about this stuff
And now I can't not notice it
a lot of nes games are unplayable since they had so much lag baked in lol
Fortunately I have little interest in that era
Even snes feels too old to me
GBA is great
nah i think the ppl who do talk about it are hard core obsesssed enough to get into it
espescially wullf den hes a autistic furry
To be clear I forgot to say it's just a silly conspiracy theory
Not a serious one
But it wouldn't surprise me if they got slipped a little something something...
Although it makes more sense they got the device and now they can do it so it's worth talking about
well it isnt a conspiracy theory that anbernic shipped out to units to youtubers all at the same time and asked them to make a video on the device
That's what big ambernic wants you to think
the real conspiracy theory is anbernic slightly gimps their devices in one way or another so you'll buy the next one because it does X better 
hmm
i wonder what percentage of anberenics sales comes domestically
its probablyy majority
Guitars do this thing called laddering, where each model is missing some key wanted feature, so you climb the ladder from product to product getting more and more costly
Phones do the exact same thing
apple does the same thing xd
Ambernic is similar but a different style
Apple discontinues their prior years pro modle so fast because it's always better and cheaper then the current year's standard model.
If you can get a apple refurbished last gen pro model you are making huge savings
I tried to play Space Channel 5 on the Steam Deck via Flycast and it was literally impossible, rhythm games are extremely hard to play well in emulation
theyre hard even on og hardware unless ur hooked up to a crt
So to go back to what we said about the ambernic conspiracy theory. Is is really a conspiracy when we see it happening so plainly?
Like who wants a up top dpad PS2 era emulator? Of course we want analogue up top
We don't need all that power to play gba games
I guess the Switch is the best portable way to play shmup because many games support Tate mode and there is an attachment that holds it in vertical mode with the joycons on the side
maybe heard alot of the switch shmup ports are crazy bad for lag tho
But the best ones donāt
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xe2CCGszHKG5s3F7HLtthQ3hbCPirfgy2jXV3BdsCBo/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Batsugun is a shame
and these tests are best case scenario docked and not using the switch's screen (which im sure is not great in comparison)
Docked adds more input lag though
depends on game
they're really poorly ported some need the extra clocks you get in docked mode
Ideally you would have a modded switch and can toggle that otherwise
Yeas was gonna post but I rather not stress my battery with it
either way SW ports for shumps are clearly behind even the 360 era stuff and those were rough
11ms isnt awful. unless youre familiar with how the original game plays (who here even has cotton 2 phyical lol) u probably wont notice it
my bad i thought you meant 11ms haha
thats disgusting wtf thats beyond unplayable. unforgivable
I have a RP Classic for retro stuff. Input lag doesnt bother me because I use runahead.
I wanted to get a device for PS2, PSP, Wii, GC, 3DS. Was thinking RP Mini V2 but the screen is small and has input lag issues as those emulators are standalone so cant use runahead. Then I was thinking Flip 2 but that has hinge issues and same input lag issues. Finally was thinking RP5 but thats not really pocketable and again input lag issues
Now looking at the 477M that seems perfect, 120hz reduces input lag. Although its large its still pocketagle. I wouldn't be carrying it outside much just wanna pocket around the house.
But one thing I have heard is Android versions of PS2, 3DS, PSP, GC, Wii emulators have more input lag than the Windows versions. So maybe I should just stick to emulation for those systems on my ROG Ally
There's no perfect answer tbh
If it's not really leaving the house i'd do a windows handheld myself
I sent on the same journey as you
477m seems perfect but got the weight and joystick position
Wish there was a input lag comparison of 3DS, PS2, GC between a 120hz Android device vs ROG Ally 120hz screen on Windows
I know Russ did a comparison but it was only on a NES game
With the standalone emulators it would be a different story
Its not just Switch shmups lots of ports on Switch in general have input lag including indie games. Thats why I moved over to the ROG Ally X for all my gaming excluding Nintendo Swith exclusives. Playing all those indie games on Ally is just so much better, many even run at 120fps
fair it just kinda matters alot in bullet hell games where it would have less of an effect in other genres
Games like Hollow Knight etc still isnt nice with high inout lag
isnt great no but not completely game ruining
Only genre of games it dont matter is turn based RPGs and visual novels
I hate it
Iāll take your entire stock
Well my Y700 managed to slip through NL Post because the seller listed the items value as £70. Rather than £399. So if Anbernic has put a value lower than £125 on the packaging. You might be lucky.
What color of the 477M do you preferļ¼
27
94
6
Plastic version (**wishlist)
Here's to hoping then!
š¤ depends how honest anbernic is š i think I asked Aya Neo to do this once and they essentially said i was asking them to do fraud
phew š
Saw some reviews. That fan whining is pretty bad even at lowest speed.
To be fair it's against Anbernics best interest to make this plastic with stacked buttons because I'd buy a device like that and be done.
in a weird way I kind of enjoy the chase
The only problem for them is retroid might make it first in a retroid pocket v3
I prefer Anbernics style though, I like the big grips on the 406H over retroids grips. And I dont like retroids Fingerprint magnet glass fronts on their devices
I honestly have never noticed this
Maybe on the screen sure but that's the same as any screen
well for me its everything UP TO ps2 so the dpad still matters. I wouldn't want offset sticks on a flatback device, its gotta have ergogrips
This is nice
Ergogrips do kinda make it less relevant where the sticks are
Retroid pocket comfy as hell no matter what config you play
But I can't lie, an abox series x controller is comfier using both d pad and analogue then a ps5 controller using either
Dpad can be awesome in the lower position but analogue almost always sucks in the lower position
It's not like the retroid wouldn't be comfier if the analogue was up top
i feel the opposite. i hate bottom dpads, dont mind a bottom analogue
If they did analogue on top, dpad on bottom on this device the trigger would be even more atrocious just saying youād be in such a lop sided claw grip on the tiny flat back I think parallel sticks and linear trigger were perfect on this specific device
I think a massive massive selling point I think everybody has missed from the anbernic video is this thing does usb c video out. And they will make their own dual screen mod.
They just need to make a 477h with analog on top
So everybody complaining about no 16 x 9 just needs to hold on a little longer there.
I also think this device will be end game once a second screen is added to it.
That extra raw power and muscle is just overkill with 12 gb ram and the dimensity,
Now what will set Retroid apart in the screen thing is if they can do a 120hz oled
But something tells me from all my research itāll be ips lcd 120hz. Literally the only 5.5-7 inch monitor or screen out there that I can find that has 120hz. So maybe we donāt get the fancy Oled that the retroid brand dual screen gets. But hereās to hoping
I think with a dual screen this unit will absolutely cook. Without a dual screen it still cooks regardless! But I think once it we get a dual screen itāll really be intriguing and show its true power
I don't think people are complaining about no 16:9 but I'd be interested in an add on screen if it pairs nicely
Iāve seen a handful of people on Reddit, and others places mentioning it and mulling about it. Nothing like major or life changing
But I think people overlooked that is all.
I did, until I tried the latest Xbox controller. The dpad is slept on because people who play dpad games don't really play Xbox
They nailed it
its the first good dpad they ever made but i still dont like the positioning
Idk I keep trying to imagine holding such a thin slab
hot take but LCD is fine if it's 120hz and has lower input latency. If it's a 4:3 screen id only ever play PS2 GameCube etc on it and never see besels. I have other handholds for gba.
And holding an upper joystick and a lower joystick
And the inline triggers
It doesn't know if it wants to be a modern device or a retro device so fails at both
See this is how I felt, I found an awesome cnc aluminum cased 7inch monitor it supports 120hz over usb c it has not way to attach it but costs 180 ughhhh
I can absolutely live with inline triggers thatās so minimal to me
I couldnāt live with my dpad swapped with tha analogue stick though and inline triggers
That would mean half my left hand is curled under the device to have my thumb in the joystick
Playing gba on my RG34xx I kinda like the screen for gba more then oled. Like GBA was not meant to be seen on oled th colors are so bright and I can't seem to get a good shafer that just lowes the vibrancy a bit, they all want to mute the colors hugely
And my other hand gets a bunch of free fingers to hold the tablet flat??? Idk I canāt imagine the handhold if they flip the bottom stick to the top on the left side
idk its pretty clearly a retro device to me. dont really know what aspect of it is "modern"
I might end up preferring this device even moreso than a 407H for pocketabilities sake, just gotta get it in my hands to know how weighty it feels. Makes it odd that they chose to make this chunker metal but I might like that more once its in the hand.
The screen and it's power. I guess when I say modern I really mean PS2 GameCube era
It's not comfy to play those games on slabs as it is a ergo controller
Itās absolutely a retro device. Till we see whatever second screen anbernic goes with.
I think itās comfier to play a lot of those things on analogue triggers. But the slab design I donāt think detracts from those games
As the image is still 4:3
i mean yeah but if you want to play ps2/gc on something that isnt giant this is an option
the more egonomic handhelds can be massive
Obviously Mario sunshine or need for speed will suck on digital triggers
For me the moment you have to have hands on buttons sticks and triggers at same time it needs some kind of comfortable grip
Earlier era stuff didn't matter as much for that because you didn't need to do all that at once
But in the very same token! I think a lot of people are forgetting the switch 2 has digital triggers and bumpers too⦠and costs a hell of a lot more to play gc etc on
Ok fair! I just know that seems to be a huge argument against this device is all
And ever since I read it Iāve been sitting on that comparison is all
Okay and I just tested it with my rog ally
I think itās really hard to test without gameplay. But personally for retro stuff I think the parallel set up is good. Honestly
i view this as a really really good endgame retro device (960p 4:3 screen, 120hz for bfi/crt beam, enough power to do all that and run beetle saturn) and then ps2/gc are there too if you want them
Exactly!
Itāll do the retro handheld systems almost perfectly too with that screen
My hands were a a bit cramped trying to play n64 on the 35xxH with inline triggers but that device was tiny it might feel better here
Fair I just donāt see how they could flip em, without adding huge ergo bumps.
And that would defeat half of the design of this device is all
See I can already say if Iām going somewhere
It's not much different on the front, but with ergo grip it's so comfy using the sticks buttons and triggers at same time
Ah okay!
I don't play when I'm out at all really
This too to be honest it was small and low sticks and inline triggers so that might be why it didn't feel right. Some people call this the new 405m because its metal This device is actually a Sequel to the 35xxH its literally just a bigger more powerful more robust version of that.
God everytime I see it I get more excited for my Choco bronze
Ilmayve I'm an outlier in viewing this purely for it's PS2 capabilities
Bigger screen than any retroid wide-screen, hightwize
I already have devices for retro stuff
I have an rog ally and a switch 2
So Iām pumped to have a 4x3 device
And then realizing the power of being able to dual screen
It really sunk in that this is very well a powerful fun device
same a Steam Deck and a Switch 2 and I'm selling the Switch 2 i want 4:3
I could never sell my s2
But good on you!
My switch 2 is for party games, and fun with the wife lol š
I'll buy another switch late gen
Ahh makes sense
There's always going to be some amazing game coming out that would make me regret selling
Good point
Honestly I should do the same. Haha 𤣠beat dk right now lol š and then sell it
And buy back in later with the oled
Zelda will come out the week later
Metroid is the only other game on the release calendar right now Iām dying for
Pokemon looks cheeks sadly š¦ ugh
Im interested to see what the next fire emblem will look like
Ah never been a fire emblem guy
I hope they don't take so long to make a new kirby game too
Kirby is always fun! But could wait till a new model of switch is out to play it
I suspect Kiby air riders is more than a racing game
I guess my draw was dk and trying Mario kart world. I got Pokémon violet beat it in 15 hours and returned that lmao 𤣠that was terrible too. Sorry if anyone likes it
I like Pokemon but I skipped that one I want the legends series to take over as the mainline
Legends was so damn good until it wasn't
Amazing concept but didn't follow through with enough game
yeah proof of concept
For anyone else who can't sleep at night because they want to know about Nokia N-Gage on this thing, it's actually a bigger image on the 477M than the RPMV2/RPC/etc
im waiting on a lot more exclusives before i think about a switch 2 š
Damn I'm so jealous you guys get to play n gage more optimamly, here I am playing so many n gage games on a slightly smaller screen
Lmaooooo yes the n gage was
Absolutely why I needed this
It was totally missing from my library
You're really missing out on .3 more inches of vertical orientation sonic the hedgehog
O.3 inches of shadow
That was one big point I made in a lot of comparisons of this to the rp5 and rp flip. We are only .8 inches smaller than their screensā¦.
Obviously the orientation plays a role yada yada but. Overall screen size is only .8 inches smaller
Technically, for 4:3 content, this is the bigger display area
And as we are seeing very quickly. Dimensity vs sd is the same argument as x86 handhelds intel vs amd. Dimensity is only going to get better as devs work with it. Just like intel.
At the end of the day this sort of thing is niche as hell. Itās personal preference and their is no one device that will satisfy everyone
Yes! Indeed. I was just speaking in relative terms of 5.5in vs 4.7
Just alot of people are comparing this to the rp5 and often times in videos, or on Reddit Iāve seen people suggest that over the 477m due to that. And I think what happens is people are often trained now to see bigger better. And donāt even really do the math or realize itās so marginal. Thatās all.
Yes indeed 4:3 is going to be just gorgeous as weāve seen.
But again strap a second screen on. And boom. 16x9 is now playable very well too
And throw a guide or video on the bottom screen š¤£
the RP5 guys are a plague š I just tell them they should've just got a phone a grip and called it a day
Hahaha š
All I know is my 477m is moving through china and canāt be here fast enough
Can someone try playing shmups in Tate (hold device 90 degrees clockwise)
Itās been over 24h since it departed the international airport in Hong Kong with no update yet.
You using 17track?
The classic/mini v2 is actually a little wider than 8:7
Itās not as square as some treat it (and I wish theyād stop recommending it for 3:4 arcade games as a replacement for the 4ā 1:1 lol)
isnt it something stupid like 32:28 in actuality
31:27
close enough 
those LG boys were up to something special when they cooked up the wing
Oops no, AfterShip app
Worth checking there, i find it's pretty good for monitoring
Same there, itās definitely arrived in my country already, they just havenāt scanned it for some reason
Dumped off a plane, hasnt been scanned into customs yet
At least itās metal. It prolly survived even being dumped lmao š¤£
Jk I hope no oneās got dumped lol I
We both ordered from the direct store and they were shipped around the same time. Mine has been stuck now for 45 hours in the export distribution center in china. @eager pelican has yours been already on a plane or is it also in that same distribution center?
Mine has been waiting for the plane for a bit yet 
Mine is in mainland china it says. For what itās worth. I ordered aug 5
I will check again later, maybe it already took flight in the last 8-10hours 
Itās already send out overseas, I also ordered some other stuff at the same time which was shipped a day earlier and is currently in customs at my local airport.
guys, how long do yo think till this screen comes in a cheaper (plastic) device?
xx line... is still a thing? š
yeah, they still release new ones
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oh right, I forgot about that one
and the 35xx pro
I still prefer the 35xxsp over 34, the slightly larger screen makes it more versatile if you also play GB and GBC titles
Isaac likes it
Itād be his ultimate pokemon device with a dual screen just saying
I know I keep shouting that in all the 477m groups but seriously. Even considering just grabbing the retroid clear screen even though itāll look terrible for proof of concept
And then not only that with a dual screen and all the muscle though 16x9 stuff is very accessible then on this device.
Have you tried those Custom Mali Drivers I've shared? Also have you tried using Nyushu, Sumi, and Uzuy? These have better Mali GPU support. They have GitHub Pages.
Ah I've seen those drivers before, unfortunately none of these actually work with our chip. They're also actually a bit old, they're just drivers taken from other devices.
I already did pull the latest driver from another D8300 device and applied it system wide
me checking tracking every minuteš I need to stop
doesnāt help I live close to the airport it arrived, just let me pick it upš„ŗ
@burnt comet still waiting to catch the plane 
Same
mines says a local carrier has had it since yesterday, if its true that was fast.
The stuff I ordered alongside it is in a seperate package in "carlstadt NJ" according to tracking.
Which tracking is that?
Mine has arrived at the airport
My misc stuff from Ali cleared customs, still waiting for the 477 arrival confirmation, plane left 36h ago
Whatās ChatGPT says
does it support hdmi out? from recent videos, its only mirroring
Apparently but you have to tinker in dev mode, such a weird oversight, same with the missing fan curve and rumble adjustment.
It does video over usb c if thatās what you mean? But it doesnāt have an hdmi port on it no
Thatās how it is for me as well, there are no options to adjust things like aspect ratio. I havenāt delved into dev options but right now itās an oversight that I hope Anbernic will address in an update.
its missing this in rg slide
anyway for you to contact them to add it? probably the way to go
its only mirroring which is a bummer
even if you got dev options working, it will be clunky and will need to change everytime you plug it in
Agreed, Iāve let them know about it
Still trying to get them to add the custom fan curves for the high performance mode
Have you tried to remove the fan filter to reduce the whine like LGR did?
This seems like such a Jerry rigged fix. Iād much rather have the whine then have any sort of foreign stuff make its way inside the body cavity or fanā¦.
I have hope that Anbernic can do an update or something thatāll give us proper video out and a fan curve
They obviously rushed it out with no testing or finished software hence crucial stuff missing. Itās so bizarre. Iām still excited to get it but also, why?
It is moving: Export clearance success
That is from one desk in china to the next desk in china
I really hoped I would get mine tomorrow, but yeah, won't happen 
Guess I will have to fiddle with the rg505 which should wait for me today 
My rgb10max3pro ain't properly moving either 
505 is fun š