#Anbernic RG477M

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copper juniper
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Oh nice.... i wonder what that price adjustment is about

regal perch
copper juniper
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ahh that would explain it

burnt comet
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Yes, that is the only store that ships after aug 13. You can try the other 4 stores, they ship tomorrow. But a few brown ones are sold out and the discount is 10 pounds less because.

untold glen
sly shuttle
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What store ? Link ?

tender hinge
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Man £167 is good

plush zodiac
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That’s an insane deal damn I’m jelly

copper nimbus
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Wdym insane deal?

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That's 222 dollars

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isn't that 2 dollars more than what they listed it as?

plush zodiac
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No it listed around £200-220 usually so £167 is pretty insane for it just being brand new launch

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@untold glen nice to have more Brits

copper nimbus
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why did they list it for so much more in the uk than in the usa?

rich kraken
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The UK list price includes VAT. Ali has then taken this off (Price Adjustment -£33.48) due to it costing more than £135, with a warning that VAT may have to be collected on delivery.

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The listed price for the US never includes tax, I suppose because it varies so much from state to state

untold glen
rich kraken
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šŸ«–

untold glen
topaz ermine
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I'll need to try PS3 emulation

eager pelican
stray trench
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It’s annoying but at least where I live we don’t pay taxes on digital games, same states do charge for that

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What’s the best site to track Ali shipping so I don’t have to keep going to that store?

azure narwhal
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track17

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assuming they arent using some really weird reshippers it picks up most services

languid temple
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Seen the new comparison video from Russ and the lower input lag on this is appealing. It rivals Odin 2 Portal

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I wish there was a device that is small and has 120hz OLED screen.

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The RP5 would be a no brainer if it was 120hz

untold glen
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Be fun to try Super Mario Galaxy for Wii on this device

untold glen
stray trench
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Same, Rogue Squadron 2 run ms surprisingly well with only few stutters at times, comparable to how it was when I tried it on the Steam Deck

burnt comet
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@stray trench @eager pelican picked up

languid temple
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Ā£162 in UK pretty good price

fierce crypt
# topaz ermine I'll need to try PS3 emulation

šŸ‘‰ In this video, we make a return to PlayStation 3 emulation but for the first time ever, we will explore the new PlayStation 3 emulator on Android known as RPCSX (originally known as RPCS3) on Anbernic's latest Android handheld, the RG557 (and now the RG447M). The results are better than expected despite RPCSX still very much early in develo...

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languid temple
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Ive seen complaints about this chipset. If i dont care for winlator or Switch emulation is it good. For example does this chipset drain more battery running PS2 and GC

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In comparison to SD865

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I notice the battery capacity is slightly more on this than RP5 so wondering how battery life fares for PS2 and GC in comparison to RP5

stray trench
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If you use the button for AI translation to got to EmuStation instate does that mean you can’t use it at all anymore ingame?

valid gale
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Had a dumb question regarding scaling gc. The dolphin emulator says 2x is 720p and 3x is 1080p so wouldnt we want to use 2.5x upscale for this device?

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All the reviews seem to leave it at 2x

silk arrow
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GC natively ran at or a little below 480p

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So 2x is ~960p

eager pelican
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2x is 1280x1056 doggylol

sly shuttle
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Cheapest I can find shipped to me in the USA with taxes is $228 is that good for the base model ?

silk arrow
eager pelican
silk arrow
sly shuttle
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It's funny Bronze is sold out on Anbernics website

silk arrow
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The lowest I’ve seen people get it is sub $220 but pretty sure they’re using coins n whatnot

burnt comet
regal perch
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PSP emulation question: A 16:9 system on a 4:3 screen, should we target 1080p (includes black bars) or 960p (excludes black bars) ?

sly shuttle
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It’s all subjective and personal preference , just do whatever you prefer most

azure narwhal
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If cropping messes up key UI and theres no hack to fix it run 16:9
otherwise crop

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paid for pixels using em

silent jacinth
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That's exactly what I had planned to do, but the button swaps are either really shoddy if you 3D print them yourself or stupidly expensive if you buy them from Etsy. The Skittles buttons were just such an awful decision from Anbernic on this one.

untold glen
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I also hope the betterbuttons seller on Etsy creates the shoulder buttons similar to the rg405m

plush zodiac
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@untold glen Sent you a friend request

proven vortex
untold glen
proven vortex
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Could be good
I liked the inline buttons for the compactness compared to like the RP4 or something, but IIRC that mod still left you with buttons that didnt really protrude past the back of the device

winter burrow
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It’s a huge upgrade in quality to upgrade Retroid buttons with resin PSX (or any resin 3rd party design). I’ve found the upgrade is marginal on Anbernic because stock Anbernic is usually really good.

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Do you guys think the silver is ugly? I really don’t see why it looks off but I don’t want to buy that color and regret it lol

pine bear
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I like it

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I don't know what's up with the hate for silver, that's the one I'd pick

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it looks like a blend between something premium and something fun

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brown is just basically "almost black", kinda boring

opaque star
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Isn't it more a hate for the button colors than for the silver metal, though?

eager pelican
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the silver also looks a lil unfinished

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but yeah, the skittles may be the main reason doggylol

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don't skittle something that's supposed to be premium

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honestly even rainbow oreo are already kinda ewww on such an expensive device

winter burrow
winter burrow
eager pelican
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they will for sure, probably already have some buttons that fit, as Anbernic probably used same sized ones from some other device

winter burrow
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Are there any AliExpress discount codes right now for over $200 purchases?

tardy valve
eager pelican
tardy valve
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yah was hoping one of them might know or post measurements, i've got spare cube/556 ones (& calipers) to check with when my unit comes in at least

eager pelican
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I don't see Sakura selling any cherry galaxy ones aside from those for the Chromatic tho... they really look nice tho

tardy valve
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looks like he's cleaning up his anbernic section, they were there a few days ago (along with like 40 other listings lol)

eager pelican
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he may not be selling too many of them in the first place, as Anbernic has quite decent buttons frog_shrug

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and usually you won't buy some 29€ PS button set for a 50€ handheld either

tardy valve
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true true, speaking of, doesn't have his PS sets up either atm, he's pretty cool about custom orders either way if you message him tho

pine bear
stray trench
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Just the right timingšŸ˜†really wished Xbox and Vita emulation had made better progress by now too for these devices😢

silk arrow
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Yeah there’s some killer Xbox games I’d love to play on this

stray trench
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How well would Ico run? I played all of their games except this on the PS2

latent lark
eager pelican
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the d8300 will brute force what can be brute forced really, the games that run into "problems" are those that don't like being emulated or have shit compatibility with the Android emulator, the chip has more than enough headroom to run PS2 and Mali drivers are not really an issue with 6th gen, let alone is the emulator as insanely optimized for SD drivers as Dolphin is to show any noticeable gains with those holyboop

stray trench
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How do you access the ingame translation when you assign its dedicated button to something else?

stray trench
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Just thought it might be useful for stuff like untranslated menus

terse kettle
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If you find your tracking number has NL in it i.e it is going through the Netherlands. Then you will 100% be taxed

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Royal mail will send you a import charge email once it gets to them

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If it doesn’t go via netherlands. Then you have a chance at skipping tax šŸ¤ž

urban flame
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Skittles make it premium, in my mind.

stray trench
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Premium chocolate bar in silver wrapping

short cobalt
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There's no talk about hdmi, does this support hdmi on single screen like rg slide?

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not the clunky mirror screen

stray trench
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They showed it in a stream, it mirrors 4:3 so you have to figure out how to change that in the Android dev mode I think.

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Is there a list of Vita games than run well on Android?

hasty palm
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im cheap so im buying a retroid mini v2 instead

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am i smart

thorn flame
hasty palm
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the mini fits a lot of what im lookin for.. 4:3 aspect ratio in a non gameboy format

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theres actually not many things to choose from

thorn flame
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hmm just FYI it's actually very close to 8:7 aspect, not 4:3.

hasty palm
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close enough better than 16:9

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first game ill b playing probably links awakening dx

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so its pretty much perfect

thorn flame
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yup, it is

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it's also perfect for native NES,SNES and PCE aspect ratios

hasty palm
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i spent like 500 dollars buying all the wario land games for the gbc and gba im sick and tired of paying inflated nintendo prices it isnt fair

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i hate nintendo fanboys they r the worst

terse kettle
eager pelican
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guess I'm in for some highway robbery then

thorn flame
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I think I spent $2 for each Wario Land 1 - 3

terse kettle
# eager pelican guess I'm in for some highway robbery then

Yeah sadly Netherland post are hot on their charges. I have a lot of my AliE orders go through them šŸ˜… currently waiting on my Y700 Gen 4 import charge. Another reason why I held off on 477M for now. Till I can get it from somewhere that ships with 4PX

thorn flame
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And only japanese Wario 2 is not in english

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but I don't think it really matters as they are not exactly text heavy games ;D

eager pelican
terse kettle
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Ive even had them group smaller orders into one to make it over £125

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And thus charge me

eager pelican
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and certainly not all has been properly taxed tbh, but we will see, don't doubt it that they will want their sweet sweet tax money šŸ˜…

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well, maybe they just want to fuck you brits doggylol

copper juniper
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They always want to do that šŸ˜„

eager pelican
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as the old saying goes "God punish England" kek

languid temple
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If Anbernic can make a RG477SP that more pocketable that would be my dream handheld

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Because the screen is so big that means the overall device can be thinner to fit the internal components and battery

stray trench
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I get more accurate shipment infos from Ali than 17trackšŸ¤”

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Current status is now ā€œshipment on the wayā€

terse kettle
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I use an app called ā€œAftershipā€ it sends me notifications for each step on the journey. So i don’t have to keep manually looking it up

formal nova
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i usually use parcelapp

normal venture
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Disgusting

topaz ermine
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New driver + slight UV on GPU

tender hinge
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Sale ended yet?

stray trench
topaz ermine
topaz ermine
burnt comet
burnt comet
untold glen
burnt comet
terse kettle
pine bear
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I think I've had packages go through NL untaxed, but can't say for certain

terse kettle
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4PX usually comes straight to UK without detours and avoids tax

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But yeah over 100 handhelds in. 100% of the over £125 ones i have ordered via AliE have been taxed when going through NL

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Unless they have a 4px or cainiao option

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My Y700 Gen 4 is with NL Post atm. Looking forward to that tax bill šŸ˜…

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This is UK though, other countries may be fine with NL post

copper juniper
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ouch šŸ˜„ i wonder how big the damage is xD

fierce yarrow
burnt comet
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😳

fierce yarrow
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VIta has a weird compatibility pattern. Slow arm to x86 conversion but high x86 gpu compatibility. Fast arm to arm conversion but mid arm gpu compatibility.

azure narwhal
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solution run it on a Pi5 with an EGPU doggylol

topaz ermine
pine bear
somber violet
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To those in the comments saying to "just get an RP5" I raise you to " just use your phone bro"

copper nimbus
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Perfect come back

sly shuttle
azure narwhal
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based

loud shuttle
compact osprey
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Odin 2 is always the choice when you go over $200 doggylol

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You get so much more for that price

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Except Customer Service, but you were Sacraficing that by getting an Anbernic Anyway

eager pelican
loud shuttle
# copper nimbus You lose out on oled though

Also on having an actually good screen in general due to it having more ghosting than a $300 handheld should, having pretty damn bad input latency, and in general not being well supported in terms of customer service (and that’s not getting into the bit where you likely will flat out not even get customer service if you get it used).

Like I said, the /s is obvious.

silk arrow
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It’s painfully obvious why the Odin 2 is so cheap

loud shuttle
silk arrow
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I mean compared to other 8g2 devices

loud shuttle
# silk arrow I mean compared to other 8g2 devices

Fair enough then, especially if Konkr’s handheld turns out to legit actually be $310-$340.

If that happens, we’ll literally have $300-$320 as the price point for G3 Gen 3 handhelds without anything like OLED, 1440p scaling, or excessively detailed aluminum frames for essentially just decoration (which is what I expect AYANEO to keep doing so that none of their own name brand G3 Gen 3 handhelds are in the same price range if that becomes the case).

hasty palm
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Imma wait for the non metal version of this. It’ll probably have some quality of life improvements. Perhaps better triggers and more ergonomic finish

lusty star
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maybe next gen though

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478H with a dimensity 9000 something

hasty palm
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Do they think the 8:7 screen in the rg slide and the 477m is too niche to bother making another device for?

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The slide and the 477m are already so niche… I don’t get it

hasty palm
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Maybe he’s taking the question literally… because I’m sure a non metal version of the 477m, that is, a new device that uses the same screen, and the same gpu would technically be different unit

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Okay my bad 4:3 but I still mean what I said

azure narwhal
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I dont think modern 8:7 panels exist and having something completely new made is insanely expensive

hasty palm
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Ok forget I said 8:7 lol sorry

lusty star
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bad for profit margins

hasty palm
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UhhhhHH

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Well I ain’t asking for a budget handheld. But now that I think about it some more I guess they could do a version of the rg557 with the new display in the rg slide and 477m?

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So basically a 557 but a different screen

lusty star
lusty star
hasty palm
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Im not familiar with all the models but id the 478 is another horizontal format I’m all for it

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I just want more devices with 120hz displays or even higher preferably

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95ms of latency is pushing what is acceptable for me personally. The 120hz screen in the 477m drops it all the way down to 65ms of latency

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Which is barely noticeable to most people tbh

lusty star
hasty palm
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Alrighty cool

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So the guy saying there won’t be a non metal version of the 477m is kind of not true but is if he took the question literally

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Well definitely see a new device with the screen that is more mainstream

lusty star
hasty palm
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Maybe in another 5 years we’ll have handhelds with 5.5ā€ screens edge to edge. Zero bezels, 240hz, 4k resolutions with Apus strong enough to run crt shaders at 4K + runahead

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Oh wait those already exists it’s called desktops

lusty star
hasty palm
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Ya Ik ik im just realizing it’s kinda silly to want my handheld to do all these things when I can just do it on my desktop

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I literally haven’t even tried to do a crt shader in 4K resolution on my lg oled yet I really ought to

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Something about playing handheld makes it way better tho…

lusty star
loud shuttle
lusty star
loud shuttle
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Hell, I already know for a fact that he himself said that the RG ArcXX would be the next one made after I think the 40XX V, and also would be the last one made. Aka, the RG ArcXX that hasn’t actually been released yet.

burnt comet
# hasty palm The slide and the 477m are already so niche… I don’t get it

This is a custom made 4:3 screen by BOE. The Best screen company in the world. Max Zhou had to pay a few hundred thousand dollar for a few thousand screens, he ain’t getting them for $5 each (including developmencosts). To get his money back Max is gonna sell a few $250 handhelds first and then he will start selling the masses for $180 , $140 and eventually $100 and $75. Max is gonna milk this screen as much as he can.

hasty palm
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lol cool

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120hz might become the new standard then

eager pelican
lone jay
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i can foresee a 447p with analog stick on top and analog triggers to differentiate itself, but i think the metal version is probably gonna be the only candybar style one. maybe something with a lesser soc like the rg35xxh

lone jay
hasty palm
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Nah there will be more ā€œcandybarā€ style ones. I suspect the screen is a little too large to do vertical format unit

hasty palm
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So he’s got to sell 1,000 $200 units to make his money back on just the screen

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Or something like that

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Any more insights

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Im curious if they sell more vertical or landscape orientation units

eager pelican
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More like 20,000 units

proven vortex
stray trench
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Warms my heart he me mentioned the 477 for all the devices I got it specifically for 🄰

azure narwhal
stray trench
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Custom OLED must be really expensive then if even Valve didn’t go for a 120hz screen in their OLED model, but 90hz is nice too for someone who’s only familiar watching in 60fps til then

azure narwhal
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Yup like millions upfront expensive for full custom oled panels

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Thats why everyone recycles older/available screens.
iirc its only like $500-1000ish (on time fee per bulk order) to have them remanufactured for different cables to suit your purchase

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and generally speaking the panels are fairly cheap to continually produce after the initial contract

stray trench
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OLED 120hz with vrr is the sweet spot

languid temple
# lone jay using a single frame of runahead should bring the latency down to original hardw...

Unfortunately runahead isnt available for PS2, GC, Wii, PSP, 3DS as those run on standalone emulators. And Android versions of many of those emulators have additional input lag compared to Windows versions. For this reason I play these systems on my Ally X which has a 120hz and advantage of running the Windows versions of these emulators.

But yeah for input lag 1 runahead frame is enough to bring the lag down to manageable levels this is why I only own a RP Classic for retro games up to PS1

final isle
azure narwhal
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lenovo can afford it

stray trench
azure narwhal
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lenovo 2023 fiscal year they were 21'st by largest revenue of any tech company
they made more money than nvidia that year

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no one thinks it but laptop market is massive and they do mad numbers

loud shuttle
lusty star
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The amount of real estate you’d have to mortgage to finance R&D for a display like that..

latent lark
untold glen
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I feel I've done like a 180 on retro handhelds recently. I was all in on the Odin 2 (and then the Odin 2 Portal) but then got overwhelmed with what you can do with it. Now with the RG477M, I've shifted from the handheld that can do everything to a handheld that I have a purpose for (aka a portable PS2/GameCube).

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(although I started with the RG405m)

latent lark
loud shuttle
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You can blame them for modern switch game prices, but you can’t blame anyone but the reseller market and the collection hobby community for how much old games cost.

latent lark
pine bear
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two weeks later

stray trench
latent lark
loud shuttle
# pine bear _two weeks later_

Yup, hence why I refuse to go into the rabbit hole of trying to have a perfect handheld for every single console and handheld. It’s nothing but a waste of money when you could get a good widescreen or 3:2 handheld for most stuff, and then a 1:1 or 31:27 handheld for the rest.

loud shuttle
stray trench
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I accepted the shoulder button compromise on the 477 to slide it in my pockets easier, if I want more ergonomics I can always get a grip case that I can take off again like I did with most of my handhelds

latent lark
loud shuttle
latent lark
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at 1080p actually

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with lossless scaling

loud shuttle
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All that’s doing is making me more suspicious on how.

final isle
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Lossless scaling frame generation

latent lark
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i did "Lossless scaling" its a new app

azure narwhal
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probably 40fps w/ 2x frame gen

latent lark
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nah bro I locked it at 60 because 80 dips a little but its great

loud shuttle
latent lark
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yeah crazy

final isle
latent lark
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its not just BOTW it works on all games

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if there is its not a noticeable amount of latency feels the same

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definitely worth the trade off

loud shuttle
final isle
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On my legion go I only get low 50s on botw

latent lark
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lol its really not bad

latent lark
loud shuttle
latent lark
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idk how to set it up on legion go but theres lots of instructionals on youtube at least for Steam Deck

final isle
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It always ends up feeling off in my experience

latent lark
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I use Ryujinx to emulate on Switch Ihavent tried many of the games on there but the ones i did like SuperMario3d World Bowesers Fury ran very well

loud shuttle
final isle
loud shuttle
# loud shuttle Same here, especially when you try using a more accurate emulator like Ryujinx.

Mario games for the most part run fine, but the second you try something like SMTV or even XC3, it falls off hard. And the less said about Sonic Colors Ultimate (where people managed to successfully gaslight everyone into believing the pirated gameplay on an emulator that wasn’t updated to support it is accurate to actual switch gameplay, leading to the Yuzu devs never bothering to actually update the emulator), the better.

latent lark
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the BOTW footage ive found is outdated i want to upload my own at some point

final isle
azure narwhal
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they added adaptive target for frame gen which is pretty great new feature
gives it a bit more flexibility on low end hardware to go lighter/heavier on gen'd frames as needed.

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Still sucks that it can only work on framebuffer tho

latent lark
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I want to work consoles out of my life and just rock a PC a Steam Deck and my 4:3 Anbernic

stray trench
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I’ve been thinking about looking into Switch emulation again, last time was like 2 years ago when I got the LCD version, Mario Wonders would look amazing in that screen

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It’s pretty easy right?

latent lark
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Yeah its not hard just follow a guide on youtube if help is needed thats what I did

stray trench
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I would just use it for less demanding games anyway, Metroid Dread is another one I really wanna play in OLED

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I have not looked into frame-gen for the Deck, it’s seems a bit overwhelming with constant updates and another timesink for tinkeringšŸ˜…

latent lark
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I always have fun tinkering with my deck šŸ˜‚

burnt comet
# loud shuttle Yup, hence why I refuse to go into the rabbit hole of trying to have a perfect h...

I have owned more than 100 handhelds since 2001, and i can tell you now. The best ā€œsmall. Handheld is the Retroid Pocket Mini . The best ā€œnormalā€ handheld is the Retroid Pocket 5. The best ā€œbiggerā€ handheld is the Odin 2 Portal. The 477 will be the best 4:3 only handheld, but it might be too Heavy. The Plastic 477 will surely be the Best Handheld to Beat ā€˜em All

latent lark
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you set up a 16:9 device and got used to using it for everything I guess theres nothing wrong with that but I like the idea of PC handheld for lounging and a complimentary 4:3 thats maybe pocketable

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You truly can have it all

latent lark
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hoping Anbernics soon to announce the 407H tho

burnt comet
latent lark
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I prefer sticks on bottom as well but offset sticks are acceptable if the device has ergonomic grips like this one.

burnt comet
stray trench
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Lmao that’s the picture I had in mind when playing with my 40XXV and wished for better ergonomics without shelling for a vertical 4inch screen handheld🤣

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But the Pocket mini does look extremely nice coupled with OLED, I might get it one day when there’s like a v3

celest sage
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I don’t find the 406v uncomfortable at all

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More gamepad like ergo than my horizontals.

fierce yarrow
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My thing is this costs as much as the win600 but still can't play nearly as much

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rp5 can actually delve pretty hard into the x86/xbox category though so I get the "just get an rp5 bro" lads

urban quail
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But the 'just get a RP5 or Steam Deck" bros are so annoying though.

stray trench
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The other thing that concerns me with verticals is that I use my pinky on the bottom for grip, but it’s not a natural way to hold and may cause physical problems down the road like chronic pain

opaque star
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Screen is better on this than on the WIN600. It also plays PS2 better than the WIN600.

fierce yarrow
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WIth exception of games that had windows DVD releases. Sort gog by 2001-2006

burnt comet
# lusty star

If you need to attach a grip, something is wrong with your design

delicate lynx
celest sage
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I'm convinced the 406v grip is a joke though

delicate lynx
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I (politely) got into this with Russ because his argument was the (RP5, I think) was too flat and I was like, "Okay? It's easier to add a grip to a flat handheld than flatten one with grips built-in.

celest sage
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I do kinda hate the rp5/o2portal method of 'lets do ergo bumps but tiny ones that do at least as much harm as good'

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either do full controller ergo or just give me a flat slab imo

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he who chases two rabbits catches neither

delicate lynx
stray trench
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I have a slim case on my Switch with small grips but still makes a big difference with comfort, best part is you can dock and remove joycons without removing the case

latent lark
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the 406V looks comfy with the eyes because its a chunker, its just cramped though GameBoy meet The FatBoy

celest sage
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I don't find it cramped but my hands are a solid medium glove size

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if you have large hands I could see it being shitty

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but I also like verticals in general

fierce yarrow
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Yeah it has a generally good layout. Screen away from the controls, hands cupped around grips just like the 405v

delicate lynx
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I don't think my hands are that big, but I do have a touch of arthritis, so wrapping my fingers around those grips probabaly triggers it.

pine bear
celest sage
fierce crypt
loud shuttle
loud shuttle
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Jesus Christ, how the hell did people forget that easily?

final isle
#

Idk I've seen a lot of people disregard the odin 2 because of the steam deck

urban quail
#

Hell, a lot of Android gaming handhelds get disregard due to the Steam Deck.

loud shuttle
# final isle Idk I've seen a lot of people disregard the odin 2 because of the steam deck

I saw way too many people suggest an Odin 2 instead of the RP5 or Flip 2 ā€œbecause it’s only $80 moreā€ before either of those 2 even released to even act as if they weren’t being annoying about the price, completely ignorant of the Steam Deck comparison because ā€œit’s lighter and smallerā€. I had to explain multiple times over that ā€œsome people just want something smallerā€ to people who would just say ā€œbut Odin 2 plays everythingā€.

#

I am not letting those guys get away with the fact that they used to be just as annoying as, if not more annoying than, the Steam Deck Bros.

urban quail
#

I seriously can't wait for Valve to mention that they're making a smaller, lighter Steam Deck just to see some of their reactions to it.

heavy mason
#

im in for the indie boy or whatever they call it

final isle
#

It'd be cool if anbernic decided to get back into x86 handhelds

topaz ermine
loud shuttle
fierce yarrow
latent lark
sly shuttle
celest sage
#

Emulating on PC is just so much better than on mobile platforms in terms of options and emulators available

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Not to mention all the indies and older pc titles

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But the lcd deck screen is just plain bad and the OLED deck screen is not amazing for emulation other than MS DOS and GBA imo

silk arrow
#

I want a new AyaNeo air device

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5.5ā€ handheld PC is criminally underrated

opaque star
#

Lenovo needs to make a Legion Go Mini.

fierce yarrow
#

Too many choices in the current market. The average user is moving on to the next handheld before they grow attached and learn everything about their current ones.

stray trench
#

Would an android rhythm game like Muse Dash run in 120fps here? Higher fps is always an advantage with those.

steady zephyr
celest sage
#

it has those big bezels top and bottom

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they could fit a 1200p slightly larger screen in the same shell

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I have an X but as is I don't use it for emulation only for pc games

latent lark
#

its great for Cemu its cool seeing Nintendo games baked in SteamOS ..as they should be

#

I've no objections to the Steam Deck resolution. perhaps I'm a pleb but it looks plenty sharp to my eye at the screen size it is.

celest sage
#

I’m just spoiled by my 1600p y700, 1890p laptop, and 2064p iPad when it comes to CRT shaders

fierce yarrow
#

they were the only company at the time selling cheap 12th-gen intel handhelds with good battery life

#

if anbernic shat out something budget-ish like a 6" i7-1165g7 to underdog the MSI Claw, that would be neat. aim no higher than 400 usd

stray trench
#

I’m just a sucker for the pure black in OLED and vivid colors, it makes HDR pop even more if it’s a decent panel like on the SD, it’s like having a mini version of my LG OLED TV

fierce yarrow
#

aye. the 556's and 557's screens are pretty crisp like that

remote citrus
#

So what's the thought on them releasing a plastic version of this?

#

I really don't need metal

stray trench
#

We don’t know but don’t count on it for now

#

I’m just gonna pretend I have a small retro-futuristic crt in my pocketšŸ˜…

remote citrus
#

Yeah. I have a metal KT-R1. It's beautiful but the extra weight and coldness of the shell just have me reach for it less

#

Wonder if any of the other devices using this screen outside the ace will actually release

#

Too bad the GKD little is about 4 years out. Think that was my fav

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Just such a fan of the single stick

crimson ibex
#

5 Years difference in Anbernic's metal handhelds

stray trench
#

The sticks were more recessed in the old one?

remote citrus
crimson ibex
remote citrus
#

I don't hate metal. I have some favs

latent lark
tardy valve
#

rgb wouldn't effect the height

latent lark
#

yeah i guess

stray trench
latent lark
#

looks like the 3DS slide pads

#

my low profile sticks should be arriving today

stray trench
#

nice I just ordered them today

stray trench
#

Does someone know the exact dimensions of just the screen itself like height and width?

short cobalt
topaz ermine
#

busy with other parts first

short cobalt
#

Weird, anbernic always show hdmi out in their "unboxing" videos like here

short cobalt
#

since they dont advertise hdmi out

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i watched the livestream, they had to go to dev options and screwed everything up LOL

#

its missing this

#

this is on RG Slide

tardy valve
#

they show it connected to a display for dual-screen use, so video out must be working in some form

short cobalt
short cobalt
#

no dedicated hdmi out like nintendo switch

stray trench
short cobalt
short cobalt
heavy mason
#

gamehub it looks like

#

i think its just streaming

short cobalt
#

clickbait youtuber

heavy mason
#

did u get scammed or just not pay attention kek

short cobalt
#

why do streaming

heavy mason
#

technically it probly is powerful enough for a lot of ps3, but the emulator just isnt there yet

#

as for why streaming, its a cool feature tbh

short cobalt
heavy mason
#

the odin portal is even better at streaming fyi

short cobalt
#

trimui smart

heavy mason
urban quail
#

Why would you want to stream on a 35xx device..

short cobalt
urban quail
#

But hey, I also do some pushing on my devices.

heavy mason
#

honestly i wouldnt stream to anything less than 720p personally, you dont have the resolution for modern games

short cobalt
#

has anyone tested winlator on this?

#

would be awesome to run old games

urban quail
#

Not a lot of folks barely have the 477M in their hands yet.

heavy mason
#

^

#

tech dad usually does some winlator on every one he reviews

short cobalt
heavy mason
#

wait for that

urban quail
#

And when they do, not a lot of them would touch Winlator let alone test games on it.

topaz ermine
urban quail
heavy mason
#

i wouldnt expect gamma to test an emulator unless he was going to push the envelope for a specific game

stray trench
#

I don’t speak Spanish so I wasn’t sure what the text saidšŸ˜“

urban quail
#

GTA is running on the Anbernic RG477M, the metallic, premium console.

short cobalt
#

or native

heavy mason
#

gamehub IS streaming

urban quail
#

Doesn't Gamehub also use some aspects of Winlator or no?

heavy mason
short cobalt
topaz ermine
#

I am a developer

#

I don't have stock on my unit anymore, I'm working on CFW

heavy mason
#

gamma does firmware and OS stuff guys, hes busy on the classic anyway kek

short cobalt
short cobalt
urban quail
#

Hmm, Gamehub is a "versatile gaming platform with PC emulators, cloud gaming, and streaming".

heavy mason
#

never gamehub, use apollo and artemis

short cobalt
stray trench
#

Does this mean it’s on flight to the states now?

urban quail
#

I use Apollo and Artemis as well.

short cobalt
stray trench
#

I don’t have a channel

heavy mason
short cobalt
urban quail
#

That's not true.

short cobalt
stray trench
#

Yeah customs is my only worry, I’m somewhat close to the largest airport on the Westcoast

heavy mason
#

good thing its 5 am and bedtime i cant handle the delusions this late powerhaha

urban quail
short cobalt
stray trench
stray trench
#

it’s like twitch, you have to put so much time and money and can take a long time to build and audience

urban quail
#

Most people are here for the love (and possibly an obsession) with cool handhelds.

short cobalt
#

da fk

urban quail
#

Also I can't imagine how terrifying it would be for some people to know your face.

short cobalt
#

and that's day 1

urban quail
#

Those that can do and have people watching over them and their wellbeing, good for them.

short cobalt
#

but still 500k

stray trench
#

Well I’m not doing of haha, it be easy money but….repercussion for life

short cobalt
urban quail
stray trench
#

nah I don’t believe in that, just not comfortable bearing everything to strangers

urban quail
#

I think we almost lost the plot for a bit

stray trench
#

kinda lol

#

I streamed stadia for a bit for free and it worked surprisingly well

#

at home I stream PS5 on my Steam Deck in bed but there is interference at times, probably need a new router

compact osprey
urban quail
#

Gamehub is what we called in the industry as flexible.

compact osprey
#

On the Retrlid 4 Pro, and Probably other Mali device, it has some of the best Performace for PC gaming

formal nova
eager pelican
#

the Arc sold poorly, I doubt you will ever get another one

topaz ermine
copper nimbus
#

Really? You have to click on a button to mirror screen?

#

That's not very nice

exotic quarry
exotic quarry
#

Apparently removing the grill makes the fan sound less whiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9atLB24NqA&t=1123s

My rambling somewhat coherent opinions on the RG 477M system, wherein I complain about its loud cooling fan for 20 minutes and make an attempt to improve it.

RG Slide review on LGR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAflIvXxMk8

00:00 here's the thing
00:51 better than the Slide
01:57 still not ideal
03:58 the FAN...
04:56 God of War PSP
10:08 bri...

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hasty palm
#

did anyone see the lgr video on the 477m

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i left a kind of rude comment lol i hope he reads it. he probably will since all youtubers are obsessed with the comments on their videos

stray trench
#

The device would def sell better and would’ve made more profit if it uses plastic while reducing the price by $20 and engineer the fan better to reduce that wine.

hasty palm
stray trench
#

Most reviews mention it.

hasty palm
#

oh i see i didnt hear rgc mention it at all in his video

stray trench
#

I’ve just been watching every video I can find searching for it while waiting for mine to arrivešŸ˜…

#

Apparently there will be some fan curve adjustment in a future update

exotic quarry
copper juniper
#

its wonderful when people read things šŸ™‚

copper juniper
stray trench
#

The weight thing does make me a bit nervous though.

pine bear
copper juniper
#

yeah metal handhelds are hefty bois

sly shuttle
topaz ermine
#

hmm doesn't seem that bad to me

sly shuttle
#

Or do you ?

topaz ermine
#

I blast that shiz to 100

sly shuttle
formal nova
topaz ermine
copper nimbus
#

People at the LineageOS discord server told me that it's a stock android thing

topaz ermine
#

Ah ok

topaz ermine
fierce crypt
#

Right?!?! šŸ˜… šŸ˜‚

topaz ermine
#

Maybe I could afford Ayaneo devices then

#

I've never tried winlator, no idea where to start

#

Would maybe like to try FF7:R on this

#

Hmm maybe once I have some time

fierce crypt
#

I was about to say don't expect much with Winlator on here. Mediatek is not great for Winlator despite some advancements there. I've been doing testing with Winlator and Gamehub and it's about what I expected, very hit or miss... emphasis on the miss. šŸ˜…

ornate coyote
#

Can these devices switch the screen to 50hz say for PAL Amiga emulation?

#

Or we fixed at 60/120hz?

topaz ermine
#

We have 60/90/120

#

I might bump the 90 to 100, may make more sense

ornate coyote
#

That’s been the case for a long time.

#

There was a guy who got 50hz working on a Linux build for 353 and running Amiga games.

#

It’s a game Amiga has been neglected in the retro thing. Only the euros and Brit’s know

topaz ermine
#

I could do 50hz if this wasn't mediatek

#

Problem with MTK is that the display driver is a kernel module which also contains the timings. And we have no sources...

So I can only modify the existing timings by hacking at the kernel module, so would change 90hz to 100hz as the easiest path forward

ornate coyote
#

That would be great. But you have a lot in your plate already.

topaz ermine
#

No promises, but will see what I can do

regal perch
regal perch
eager pelican
#

PAL, what's that, do you want me to play games in German? worryfroge

#

Please don't force me to play Secret of Mana like that kek

crimson ibex
topaz ermine
fierce yarrow
topaz ermine
#

oh well

fierce yarrow
#

mali is weird. directx 8 and down? nigh perfect. directx 9? half/half games won't crash on load. anything over? nope.

#

if you're willing to dig through gog and set it up, you can play some old pc 7th-gen gems:
https://youtu.be/2KbUuSmt594

Mount & Blade | Winlator Mali 1.9 (GeekBench version) | Mediatek Dimensity 1200 | Xiaomi 11T Test

The device I use:
° Device: Xiaomi 11T 5G
° Chipset: Mediatek Dimensity 1200
° RAM/ROM: 8GB/256GB
° OS: Android 14, Hyper OS 1.0.3 EEA (UKWEUXM)
° Root Access: No root

Screen Recorder:
ADV Screen Recorder MOD v.4.8.2

Please Like, Share, and ...

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tender hinge
lone jay
#

i’ve never messed with winlator. do 2d indie games tend to work better on mali devices? or is it just down to whatever graphics api that games particular engine is using?

fierce yarrow
#

depends on the fork of winlator(base, bionic, mali, cmod, afeimod, ajay, frost, etc.) what the gpu supports, what the winwrapper supports, etc.

eager pelican
lone jay
fierce yarrow
#

if you have the time in patience, yeah. some of the t820 device users reported Winlator Frost being about to do a bit of directx 10 stuff, but i personally haven't been interested

loud shuttle
#

Ok, so as-is it’s not too important for something like my handheld, but in case I’m not the only person who only just now realized this was in the Dual screen optimized version of MelonDS (which frankly is just an actual updated version of MelonDS in general), there is now the option to set the Red screen as being on top of the blue screen by default as well as reducing the alpha of the screen to make it see-through. This isn’t as useful on the Pocket Ace since I already have 3:2 and can mostly just have enough of the screen on the side, but it’s freaking huge for 4:3 android devices, and I just wanted to share it on here since, well, you guys would definitely enjoy the info more.

loud shuttle
burnt comet
#

HEAVY

#

WARM

#

NOISY

#

Lol

loud shuttle
#

Noisy definitely is new due to the fan, but yeah both Heavy and Warm were also tradeoffs in the RG405M.

silk arrow
#

Me when the metal handheld is heavy

#

(Metal is heavy)

lusty star
burnt comet
#

He also hate the Haptics and misses Grips

#

And way too expensive

#

😳

lusty star
fierce yarrow
#

it sounds like a vacuum cleaner

#

the 557/556 never sounded like a vacuum cleaner. the cube and 406h were even more silent.

loud shuttle
tender hinge
#

How much less do you think this device would be if it was plastic?

pine bear
#

the rg406h is 260g ish, the Pocket Ace is 300g

#

you can extrapolate from there

#

but for me the problem with metal is not the raw weight per se but the fact that it feels very dense

tender hinge
#

Sorry I meant price but actually the weight is more important now you mention it 🤣

regal perch
#

believe the plastic shell would need reinforcement in several areas, so I expect Anbernic to take the opportunity to release a different design instead.

eager pelican
#

More akin to the 406h I bet

opaque star
#

I mean ... do that (make one almost exactly like the 406H) and it's immediately the best 4:3 handheld for PS2 games?

burnt comet
#

The 12 gb version

burnt comet
burnt comet
# short cobalt why not, retrogamecorp earns $50k per video he makes and get free handheld on to...

How much does one make with videos. This girl, chonny , is a 21 year old girl from Manilla. 3 years ago she posted a video on how much she was making. She made $1,700 a month with 50k subs. But that is a girl that makes cutes videos for girls (and old pervs). The thing is, these girls don’t use adblockers so every view is $$$. With us, 95% use adblockers, so the youtubers in tech make less money, even with 200k subs. Here is Chonnie: https://m.youtube.com/@Chonnie/videos

azure narwhal
#

Adsense target marketing pays easily 4x for female demographics

burnt comet
#

If I would guess what Russ makes i think it is a few hundred dolkars per video with $1,000 per top video

#

But he makes a good living of it and rightfully so, he is the best. From zero to this in 5 years is great.

#

Chonnie stopped making videos and only makes shorts with partnerships. She is making a couple of grands a month now which is huge in manilla where average salary is less than $300

stray trench
# burnt comet

Thanks! ChatGPT even drew a comparison between the SteamDeck OLED screen and this one🤯

stray trench
burnt comet
stray trench
#

another 2 comparisons with the Switch v1 and the 3DSXL top screen

burnt comet
#

400 sold. Minimumprice now 273 euro inc shipping

regal perch
latent lark
#

basically the 406H with 477m's chip and screen AND recessed sticks

latent lark
#

Anbernic inches closer

#

But until then this'll do

regal perch
stray trench
#

Basically it’s all 20 bucks more now

untold glen
#

I mean worst case, it still only costs me just north of £200

burnt comet
latent lark
stray trench
#

Plane ride to my destination from HK is 13h so it should arrive soon but damn, such a long flight

#

only customs will be a deciding factor for time then

proven vortex
#

so close and yet so far away

stray trench
#

reminds me of that one song from the Enchanted movie😢

feral goblet
#

Not going to happen in 100 years!!!

latent lark
stray trench
#

The stuff I ordered at the same time to get the $30 discount on Ali just landed in my country.

eager pelican
stray trench
#

When wanted the pocket classic I liked the yellow one the most as I thought the only 6 button variant was ugly but that black one looks damn sexy now, especially with the OLED

#

only Sega consoles I owned was the Mega Drive II and Dreamcast

eager pelican
#

just give me a DIY kit with all black buttons for fucks sake

dull hound
stray trench
#

chd and rvz files work on this one right?

burnt comet
dull hound
#

i just toyed with idea of getting my GF to do this, if i just write her a script etc, but probably not something you can really do unless you're super passionate about it

#

Should your Boyfriend Buy Another Ambernic?

We could do that

latent lark
dull hound
#

now i could pay for my GFs nails and buy her a mechenical keyboard and make her tap tap tap and im sure we could get away with that

#

'this is not authentic ASMR you can tell she's faking it' not gonna get comments like that

terse kettle
latent lark
#

Already in the U.S! way to go Aliexpress/Anbernic

stray trench
latent lark
#

This device is making me buy new pants lol

stray trench
#

Crossbody bags can also be good for larger handhelds

dull hound
exotic quarry
patent plaza
#

nice!

#

now you just need to put in Xbox-sytled buttons šŸ˜›

copper juniper
#

ooooh

stray trench
#

I wonder how strong those magnets are and how hard that mod is. I’d love to replace that back half with a plastic one. It would be easy and prob shave off around 50g.

#

With a case you’d only see the front anyway.

dull hound
#

There's no plastic case mods for anbernics prior metal model

#

Or if there is I couldn't find one

#

So I wonder if anyone will make for this one. Depends bow popular it is I suppose

stray trench
#

yeah meant for the future. I’m also waiting for a skinny grip case.

stray trench
#

I don’t speak Spanish but I can tell he really, really like the coloršŸ˜†

#

It’s the bronze one, idk why thumbnail shows the wrong model

#

Is something like a performance overlay that shows power draw and how long the remaining charge will last?

#

Seeing him holding it next to his face gave me a better idea how large it really in practice.

azure narwhal
#

its at least a 3 head kek

dull hound
#

2019: switch lite
2025: switch chode

stray trench
#

Tue color does remind a bit of the sugar they but on churrosšŸ¤”

copper nimbus
#

a handheld that doesn't have an optimal display for sega stuff sounds weird

#

but it makes sense when you consider that the lg wing screen is literally the only good small oled screen available

#

next option would be 16:9

stray trench
#

Optimal display for Sega?

copper nimbus
#

sega content is clearly not the best for like a ~10:9 aspect ratio

#

you need proper 4:3

#

but it's the best we got as of now

stray trench
#

but it has a 4:3 screen? Or are we talking about the pocket?

copper nimbus
#

just a minute ago we were talking about the rp classic

regal perch
hasty palm
#

so yea i bought a rp mini v2 instead of the 477m

#

basically saved myself over half the money

dull hound
#

Conspiracy theory: ambernic paid the YouTubers to talk about black frame insertion.

I had no idea what it was last week and now I need a device with it or else

dull hound
hasty palm
#

tbh i plan on getting an abernic device too eventually i rly want a 120hz display for the 30-35ms of latency improvement you get with the higher refresh rate

dull hound
#

Exactly

#

Me too

#

I love RP pocket mini for gba and retro stuff but for console stuff I find the screen just too small

#

Psx is okay but PS2 I'm just squinting so hard

hasty palm
#

i cant play shmups or games with precise platforming like super ghouls n ghosts on stuff with 30+ms more latency then og hardware

azure narwhal
#

I mean BFI isnt new, its just relatively new to RA (like 6mo) and this is the first screen that can really make good use of it

dull hound
#

I recently tried to emulate ratchet and clack and could feel how I pressed x and the character jumped a whole second later

#

I never used to care about this stuff

#

And now I can't not notice it

hasty palm
#

a lot of nes games are unplayable since they had so much lag baked in lol

dull hound
#

Fortunately I have little interest in that era

#

Even snes feels too old to me

#

GBA is great

hasty palm
#

espescially wullf den hes a autistic furry

dull hound
#

To be clear I forgot to say it's just a silly conspiracy theory

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Not a serious one

#

But it wouldn't surprise me if they got slipped a little something something...

#

Although it makes more sense they got the device and now they can do it so it's worth talking about

hasty palm
#

well it isnt a conspiracy theory that anbernic shipped out to units to youtubers all at the same time and asked them to make a video on the device

dull hound
#

That's what big ambernic wants you to think

azure narwhal
#

the real conspiracy theory is anbernic slightly gimps their devices in one way or another so you'll buy the next one because it does X better frog_stare

hasty palm
#

hmm

dull hound
#

That's not a conspiracy theory

#

That's just capitalism baby

hasty palm
#

i wonder what percentage of anberenics sales comes domestically

#

its probablyy majority

dull hound
#

Guitars do this thing called laddering, where each model is missing some key wanted feature, so you climb the ladder from product to product getting more and more costly

#

Phones do the exact same thing

hasty palm
#

apple does the same thing xd

dull hound
#

Ambernic is similar but a different style

dull hound
# hasty palm apple does the same thing xd

Apple discontinues their prior years pro modle so fast because it's always better and cheaper then the current year's standard model.

If you can get a apple refurbished last gen pro model you are making huge savings

stray trench
#

I tried to play Space Channel 5 on the Steam Deck via Flycast and it was literally impossible, rhythm games are extremely hard to play well in emulation

hasty palm
#

theyre hard even on og hardware unless ur hooked up to a crt

dull hound
#

So to go back to what we said about the ambernic conspiracy theory. Is is really a conspiracy when we see it happening so plainly?

#

Like who wants a up top dpad PS2 era emulator? Of course we want analogue up top

#

We don't need all that power to play gba games

stray trench
#

I guess the Switch is the best portable way to play shmup because many games support Tate mode and there is an attachment that holds it in vertical mode with the joycons on the side

#
azure narwhal
#

maybe heard alot of the switch shmup ports are crazy bad for lag tho

tender hinge
#

But the best ones don’t

tender hinge
#

Batsugun is a shame

stray trench
#

Cotton 2 11ms lagšŸ’€

#

Better use RetroArch then

azure narwhal
#

and these tests are best case scenario docked and not using the switch's screen (which im sure is not great in comparison)

stray trench
#

Docked adds more input lag though

azure narwhal
#

depends on game

#

they're really poorly ported some need the extra clocks you get in docked mode

#

Ideally you would have a modded switch and can toggle that otherwise

stray trench
#

Yeas was gonna post but I rather not stress my battery with it

azure narwhal
#

either way SW ports for shumps are clearly behind even the 360 era stuff and those were rough

hasty palm
azure narwhal
#

its 11 frames

#

its like 183ms

hasty palm
#

my bad i thought you meant 11ms haha

#

thats disgusting wtf thats beyond unplayable. unforgivable

languid temple
#

I have a RP Classic for retro stuff. Input lag doesnt bother me because I use runahead.

#

I wanted to get a device for PS2, PSP, Wii, GC, 3DS. Was thinking RP Mini V2 but the screen is small and has input lag issues as those emulators are standalone so cant use runahead. Then I was thinking Flip 2 but that has hinge issues and same input lag issues. Finally was thinking RP5 but thats not really pocketable and again input lag issues

#

Now looking at the 477M that seems perfect, 120hz reduces input lag. Although its large its still pocketagle. I wouldn't be carrying it outside much just wanna pocket around the house.

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But one thing I have heard is Android versions of PS2, 3DS, PSP, GC, Wii emulators have more input lag than the Windows versions. So maybe I should just stick to emulation for those systems on my ROG Ally

proven vortex
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There's no perfect answer tbh

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If it's not really leaving the house i'd do a windows handheld myself

dull hound
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I sent on the same journey as you

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477m seems perfect but got the weight and joystick position

languid temple
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Wish there was a input lag comparison of 3DS, PS2, GC between a 120hz Android device vs ROG Ally 120hz screen on Windows

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I know Russ did a comparison but it was only on a NES game

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With the standalone emulators it would be a different story

languid temple
azure narwhal
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fair it just kinda matters alot in bullet hell games where it would have less of an effect in other genres

languid temple
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Games like Hollow Knight etc still isnt nice with high inout lag

azure narwhal
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isnt great no but not completely game ruining

languid temple
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Only genre of games it dont matter is turn based RPGs and visual novels

silk arrow
terse kettle
wanton hawk
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What color of the 477M do you prefer?

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Plastic version (**wishlist)

terse kettle
buoyant idol
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Saw some reviews. That fan whining is pretty bad even at lowest speed.

latent lark
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avenging_spirit in a weird way I kind of enjoy the chase

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The only problem for them is retroid might make it first in a retroid pocket v3

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I prefer Anbernics style though, I like the big grips on the 406H over retroids grips. And I dont like retroids Fingerprint magnet glass fronts on their devices

dull hound
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Maybe on the screen sure but that's the same as any screen

latent lark
white aurora
dull hound
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Ergogrips do kinda make it less relevant where the sticks are

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Retroid pocket comfy as hell no matter what config you play

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But I can't lie, an abox series x controller is comfier using both d pad and analogue then a ps5 controller using either

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Dpad can be awesome in the lower position but analogue almost always sucks in the lower position

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It's not like the retroid wouldn't be comfier if the analogue was up top

steady zephyr
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i feel the opposite. i hate bottom dpads, dont mind a bottom analogue

white aurora
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If they did analogue on top, dpad on bottom on this device the trigger would be even more atrocious just saying you’d be in such a lop sided claw grip on the tiny flat back I think parallel sticks and linear trigger were perfect on this specific device

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I think a massive massive selling point I think everybody has missed from the anbernic video is this thing does usb c video out. And they will make their own dual screen mod.

valid gale
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They just need to make a 477h with analog on top

white aurora
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So everybody complaining about no 16 x 9 just needs to hold on a little longer there.

I also think this device will be end game once a second screen is added to it.

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That extra raw power and muscle is just overkill with 12 gb ram and the dimensity,

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Now what will set Retroid apart in the screen thing is if they can do a 120hz oled

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But something tells me from all my research it’ll be ips lcd 120hz. Literally the only 5.5-7 inch monitor or screen out there that I can find that has 120hz. So maybe we don’t get the fancy Oled that the retroid brand dual screen gets. But here’s to hoping

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I think with a dual screen this unit will absolutely cook. Without a dual screen it still cooks regardless! But I think once it we get a dual screen it’ll really be intriguing and show its true power

latent lark
white aurora
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But I think people overlooked that is all.

dull hound
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They nailed it

steady zephyr
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its the first good dpad they ever made but i still dont like the positioning

white aurora
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Idk I keep trying to imagine holding such a thin slab

dull hound
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hot take but LCD is fine if it's 120hz and has lower input latency. If it's a 4:3 screen id only ever play PS2 GameCube etc on it and never see besels. I have other handholds for gba.

white aurora
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And holding an upper joystick and a lower joystick

dull hound
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It doesn't know if it wants to be a modern device or a retro device so fails at both

white aurora
white aurora
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I couldn’t live with my dpad swapped with tha analogue stick though and inline triggers

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That would mean half my left hand is curled under the device to have my thumb in the joystick

dull hound
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Playing gba on my RG34xx I kinda like the screen for gba more then oled. Like GBA was not meant to be seen on oled th colors are so bright and I can't seem to get a good shafer that just lowes the vibrancy a bit, they all want to mute the colors hugely

white aurora
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And my other hand gets a bunch of free fingers to hold the tablet flat??? Idk I can’t imagine the handhold if they flip the bottom stick to the top on the left side

steady zephyr
latent lark
dull hound
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It's not comfy to play those games on slabs as it is a ergo controller

white aurora
white aurora
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As the image is still 4:3

steady zephyr
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i mean yeah but if you want to play ps2/gc on something that isnt giant this is an option

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the more egonomic handhelds can be massive

white aurora
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Obviously Mario sunshine or need for speed will suck on digital triggers

dull hound
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Earlier era stuff didn't matter as much for that because you didn't need to do all that at once

white aurora
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But in the very same token! I think a lot of people are forgetting the switch 2 has digital triggers and bumpers too… and costs a hell of a lot more to play gc etc on

dull hound
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Idmind digital triggers that much tbh

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It's not the end of the world

white aurora
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Ok fair! I just know that seems to be a huge argument against this device is all

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And ever since I read it I’ve been sitting on that comparison is all

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Okay and I just tested it with my rog ally

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I think it’s really hard to test without gameplay. But personally for retro stuff I think the parallel set up is good. Honestly

steady zephyr
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i view this as a really really good endgame retro device (960p 4:3 screen, 120hz for bfi/crt beam, enough power to do all that and run beetle saturn) and then ps2/gc are there too if you want them

white aurora
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It’ll do the retro handheld systems almost perfectly too with that screen

latent lark
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My hands were a a bit cramped trying to play n64 on the 35xxH with inline triggers but that device was tiny it might feel better here

dull hound
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The sticks are just too low

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Without anything to hold onto

white aurora
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And that would defeat half of the design of this device is all

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See I can already say if I’m going somewhere

dull hound
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It's not much different on the front, but with ergo grip it's so comfy using the sticks buttons and triggers at same time

white aurora
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Or out and about

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I’m grabbing that flat boy.

dull hound
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Ah. Portability isnt a factor for me in any way

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I get a case and put it in a bag

white aurora
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Ah okay!

dull hound
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I don't play when I'm out at all really

latent lark
# dull hound Without anything to hold onto

This too to be honest it was small and low sticks and inline triggers so that might be why it didn't feel right. Some people call this the new 405m because its metal This device is actually a Sequel to the 35xxH its literally just a bigger more powerful more robust version of that.

dull hound
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35xxh with grip I'm sure would be fine

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A grip fixes everything

white aurora
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God everytime I see it I get more excited for my Choco bronze

dull hound
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Ilmayve I'm an outlier in viewing this purely for it's PS2 capabilities

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Bigger screen than any retroid wide-screen, hightwize

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I already have devices for retro stuff

white aurora
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I have an rog ally and a switch 2

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So I’m pumped to have a 4x3 device

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And then realizing the power of being able to dual screen

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It really sunk in that this is very well a powerful fun device

latent lark
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same a Steam Deck and a Switch 2 and I'm selling the Switch 2 i want 4:3

white aurora
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I could never sell my s2

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But good on you!

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My switch 2 is for party games, and fun with the wife lol šŸ˜‚

latent lark
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I'll buy another switch late gen

white aurora
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Ahh makes sense

dull hound
dull hound
white aurora
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Honestly I should do the same. Haha 🤣 beat dk right now lol šŸ˜‚ and then sell it

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And buy back in later with the oled

dull hound
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Zelda will come out the week later

white aurora
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Metroid is the only other game on the release calendar right now I’m dying for

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Pokemon looks cheeks sadly 😦 ugh

dull hound
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Im interested to see what the next fire emblem will look like

white aurora
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Ah never been a fire emblem guy

dull hound
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I hope they don't take so long to make a new kirby game too

white aurora
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Kirby is always fun! But could wait till a new model of switch is out to play it

latent lark
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I suspect Kiby air riders is more than a racing game

white aurora
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I guess my draw was dk and trying Mario kart world. I got Pokémon violet beat it in 15 hours and returned that lmao 🤣 that was terrible too. Sorry if anyone likes it

latent lark
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I like Pokemon but I skipped that one I want the legends series to take over as the mainline

dull hound
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Legends was so damn good until it wasn't

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Amazing concept but didn't follow through with enough game

latent lark
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yeah proof of concept

silent jacinth
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For anyone else who can't sleep at night because they want to know about Nokia N-Gage on this thing, it's actually a bigger image on the 477M than the RPMV2/RPC/etc

copper juniper
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im waiting on a lot more exclusives before i think about a switch 2 šŸ˜„

dull hound
white aurora
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Lmaooooo yes the n gage was
Absolutely why I needed this

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It was totally missing from my library

silent jacinth
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You're really missing out on .3 more inches of vertical orientation sonic the hedgehog

dull hound
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O.3 inches of shadow

white aurora
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That was one big point I made in a lot of comparisons of this to the rp5 and rp flip. We are only .8 inches smaller than their screens….

white aurora
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Obviously the orientation plays a role yada yada but. Overall screen size is only .8 inches smaller

silent jacinth
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Technically, for 4:3 content, this is the bigger display area

white aurora
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And as we are seeing very quickly. Dimensity vs sd is the same argument as x86 handhelds intel vs amd. Dimensity is only going to get better as devs work with it. Just like intel.

At the end of the day this sort of thing is niche as hell. It’s personal preference and their is no one device that will satisfy everyone

white aurora
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Just alot of people are comparing this to the rp5 and often times in videos, or on Reddit I’ve seen people suggest that over the 477m due to that. And I think what happens is people are often trained now to see bigger better. And don’t even really do the math or realize it’s so marginal. That’s all.

Yes indeed 4:3 is going to be just gorgeous as we’ve seen.

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But again strap a second screen on. And boom. 16x9 is now playable very well too

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And throw a guide or video on the bottom screen 🤣

latent lark
white aurora
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Hahaha šŸ˜‚

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All I know is my 477m is moving through china and can’t be here fast enough

tender hinge
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Can someone try playing shmups in Tate (hold device 90 degrees clockwise)

stray trench
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It’s been over 24h since it departed the international airport in Hong Kong with no update yet.

celest sage
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It’s not as square as some treat it (and I wish they’d stop recommending it for 3:4 arcade games as a replacement for the 4ā€ 1:1 lol)

azure narwhal
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isnt it something stupid like 32:28 in actuality

tardy valve
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31:27

azure narwhal
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close enough doggylol

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those LG boys were up to something special when they cooked up the wing

stray trench
proven vortex
stray trench
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Same there, it’s definitely arrived in my country already, they just haven’t scanned it for some reason

proven vortex
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RIP

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backlog at customs maybe

azure narwhal
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Dumped off a plane, hasnt been scanned into customs yet

white aurora
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At least it’s metal. It prolly survived even being dumped lmao 🤣

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Jk I hope no one’s got dumped lol I

burnt comet
eager pelican
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Mine has been waiting for the plane for a bit yet doggylol

white aurora
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Mine is in mainland china it says. For what it’s worth. I ordered aug 5

eager pelican
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I will check again later, maybe it already took flight in the last 8-10hours kek

stray trench
patent plaza
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guys, how long do yo think till this screen comes in a cheaper (plastic) device?

spice fiber
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i suppose a few months

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i doubt they'll add it to the xx line though

patent plaza
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xx line... is still a thing? šŸ˜›

spice fiber
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yeah, they still release new ones

patent plaza
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wasn't... the last one the 34xx or cubexx?

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seems like ages ago (to me šŸ˜… )

azure narwhal
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34xx sp

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its been a slow xx year for anbernic

stray trench
patent plaza
spice fiber
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and the 35xx pro

stray trench
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I still prefer the 35xxsp over 34, the slightly larger screen makes it more versatile if you also play GB and GBC titles

burnt comet
white aurora
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It’d be his ultimate pokemon device with a dual screen just saying

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I know I keep shouting that in all the 477m groups but seriously. Even considering just grabbing the retroid clear screen even though it’ll look terrible for proof of concept

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And then not only that with a dual screen and all the muscle though 16x9 stuff is very accessible then on this device.

marble otter
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Have you tried those Custom Mali Drivers I've shared? Also have you tried using Nyushu, Sumi, and Uzuy? These have better Mali GPU support. They have GitHub Pages.

topaz ermine
fierce crypt
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Speaking of Switch, that’s tomorrows video šŸ«‚

stray trench
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me checking tracking every minute😭 I need to stop

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doesn’t help I live close to the airport it arrived, just let me pick it up🄺

eager pelican
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@burnt comet still waiting to catch the plane mariodead

latent lark
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mines says a local carrier has had it since yesterday, if its true that was fast.

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The stuff I ordered alongside it is in a seperate package in "carlstadt NJ" according to tracking.

white aurora
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Mine has arrived at the airport

stray trench
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My misc stuff from Ali cleared customs, still waiting for the 477 arrival confirmation, plane left 36h ago

stray trench
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What’s ChatGPT says

short cobalt
# fierce crypt

does it support hdmi out? from recent videos, its only mirroring

stray trench
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Apparently but you have to tinker in dev mode, such a weird oversight, same with the missing fan curve and rumble adjustment.

white aurora
fierce crypt
short cobalt
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anyway for you to contact them to add it? probably the way to go

short cobalt
fierce crypt
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Still trying to get them to add the custom fan curves for the high performance mode

stray trench
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Have you tried to remove the fan filter to reduce the whine like LGR did?

white aurora
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This seems like such a Jerry rigged fix. I’d much rather have the whine then have any sort of foreign stuff make its way inside the body cavity or fan….

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I have hope that Anbernic can do an update or something that’ll give us proper video out and a fan curve

stray trench
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They obviously rushed it out with no testing or finished software hence crucial stuff missing. It’s so bizarre. I’m still excited to get it but also, why?

burnt comet
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That is from one desk in china to the next desk in china

eager pelican
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I really hoped I would get mine tomorrow, but yeah, won't happen mariodead

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Guess I will have to fiddle with the rg505 which should wait for me today kek

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My rgb10max3pro ain't properly moving either frog_think

copper juniper
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505 is fun šŸ˜„