Anbernic RG477M

[final isle]

It seems like they've been listening to criticism since they're not using the rg557 sticks. But yeah 406h sticks are still too tall

[plucky abyss]

both physically and financially amirite

[sly shuttle]

The tall sticks on the 406H are one of the highlights

[compact osprey]

I'm a chef by trade, so I can definitely feel that financially part

But I can comfortably shove a rgb30 in my pocket with a reversible Grip/Case, but that is just sti k protection

[final isle]

They feel good to use, but not great for going in pockets

Ig I can always get a clipshield though

[sly shuttle]

That never really was a issue since I don’t pocket it

[rich kraken]

I feel lucky to not care about pocketability. It seems to ruin devices for a lot of people.

[compact osprey]

I have a retroid 4 pro, but that long candy bar would stick out my pocket and the sticks got caught on everything. Even with a grip/case

[rich kraken]

I don't even want a micro handheld in my pocket - I like to keep them in a case and look after them, even if they're cheap

[sly shuttle]

If I want a more pocketable device then I get something smaller with no sticks

[plucky abyss]

we need a more powerful Miyoo Flip someday...

[compact osprey]

Are people saying grilling time & retro gaming time don't go hand & hand!?!?!

[compact osprey]

Step 1 for Miyoo.....fix that Hinge

Step 2, give us the 321 with that Brick Screen

[copper juniper]

its a wonderful thing isn't it 😄

[echo girder]

Wake me up when they make an arc pro with this screen and d8300

[short quest]

Oh man.. just saw the promo... another metal Anbernic... 477 denotes what .. a 4.7 inch screen?. That is huge and probably will look good in whatever aspect that is.. interested

not a giant fan of that bronze color though

[echo girder]

Anything above $250 is a pass, I think they're going to do something dumb like charge 270 for it though

[short quest]

being metal it will have some premium for sure

[echo girder]

Too close to Odin 2 mini

[short quest]

I bought two RG350M over the years.. a 351MP.. but never the later.

I really liked them but did end up giving them all away to friends lol

[formal nova]

477$ australian

[short quest]

I'm hopeful they keep it under 200.

even if that means it suffering from lesser hardware. That screen size alone I could be happy with another RK3326

lol

[copper nimbus]

Under 200-210? I'm sold.
Over 210. Nope

[formal nova]

i expect slighly above 300 if its 8300 ... just thx to the metal

[final isle]

99% chance it's a d8300 and around $250

[short quest]

that would put me at a strong maybe

250 is considerable

and at that point I would just save for the odin 3

[formal nova]

i would consider 250-300 if it had sega dpad and 6 face buttons

[plucky abyss]

yeah hopefully it's sold for below 200

[short quest]

Sega d pad!!!!! hiss

[formal nova]

but not sure who should i harrass to get my "ultimate sega handheld"

[short quest]

The #1 reason I still buy Anbernic products is because that sexy perfect membrane classic Dpad.

40xxV is sooo nice

[formal nova]

i basically completely consolidated my verticals into just rg406v and 🧱 (as the ones i actually actively play on)
with 35xxSp for fun factor rare use and "Funkey S " as collectors item

[short quest]

Yeah I'm down to just my 280v, 40xxV, and my Odin 2...

not considering any actual hardware like my 3ds

I need to get back with the program

I keep giving away handhelds lol

[formal nova]

i sill have the 280v as it was like my entry into the emulhandheld spere

and have been deciding to get rid of it for months but its one thats going away most likely

just havent listed it for sale yet

rg405v, v10, rgb20sx and 35xx ... already went away (some sold , some gifted away)

[short quest]

I picked mine up second hand from someone on this forum. I love it. I tent to take it when I don't want to deal with something in a case.. it's my "waiting in the car" handheld lol.

I get ya though.. it's getting dated.. I would not want another OpenDingus device ever lol

although Adam image really helped

[formal nova]

i use brick for that now ... 280v just had really weirdass screen

[short quest]

I had two 350M too

[formal nova]

but i guess the sentimental value is whats stopping me to list it for sale 😄

[short quest]

I get that way too lol

[formal nova]

similar case is OGA .... ue to the "build your own" side of it ... and me heavily customizing it

[daring wadi]

Wait I just realized this doesn’t have analog triggers

That’s a huge bummer

[formal nova]

as Nintendo's people would say

Sasaki admitted that it was partially due to some "very fussy developers" preferring digital shoulder buttons, while Kawamoto said that his team decided that the instant input of digital triggers was a better fit for the Switch 2 over the brief lag that comes with analog ones.

[devout estuary]

is that bronze or black being lit weird? Really hope it is black. This seems like everything i ever wanted, but in execution, it really is likely the size of my metal rp3+, which is a beauty, but not really going in my pocket. I literally just want an updated 405m, better screen, better guts.

that aside, I will be buying this, but right now my flip 2 goes in my pocket (slightly uncomfortably) and is just so near endgame and cool, that it will be hard to see this replacing it

[shrewd arch]

Will this be a budget device or another android

[formal nova]

They call it "high performance" and "flaghsip metal"

So definitely not budget

[patent plaza]

can someome summarize/ link me what's "special" about this upcoming console?

[shut cedar]

Metal + 120hz refresh rate

[toxic tapir]

big 4:3 screen

[patent plaza]

ooh yeah 🤘 🤘

😛

[patent plaza]

okay, this I like

[shut cedar]

Same as RG Slide

[patent plaza]

the screen will be the same as the one in Slide?

[toxic tapir]

rg 4.7

[shut cedar]

Yup

[patent plaza]

only thing I don't like as of now are those tall sticks and the overall design looks pretty dull...

[gray warren]

Anyone else liking the design on this thing..?

Idk man, maybe I’m just weird

[devout estuary]

It feels generic and uninspired for sure, but sometimes what works just works. If it stays around 250 I’ll do it

[patent plaza]

ugh... I hope it's cheaper but metal alone raises the price, I guess

[sly shuttle]

Not feeling the inline triggers fir a high end device

[gray warren]

250 is reasonable considering the D8300 is near 8G2 level

I mean sure, no adreno optimizations, but for PS2 and all

can’t go wrong

[patent plaza]

I'm not knowledegbale about those letters and numbers... 😛

[gray warren]

Whoops, sorry about that.

8G2 - AYN Odin 2

D8300 - RG557

[patent plaza]

hm, okay

power-wise I don't really need it...

[short quest]

My question is, are those joysticks removable and does it have RGB?

[gray warren]

Seems like a better RG cube, the screen is just as tall + it’ll be way more powerful.

[patent plaza]

would prefer it in a similar form factor to that...

[eager pelican]

now if only this wouldn't be 350€ and ditch the oreo skittles....

[wheat geode]

If it’s popular enough someone will do custom buttons

Just do your part and buy 6

[shut cedar]

There will definitely be be custom buttons. Unmarked black in the silver will look so clean

[burnt stirrup]

It has RG Slide screen ? & 557 specs ?

[shut cedar]

Correct

[burnt stirrup]

why not analog trigger

[shut cedar]

That and swap left stick and dpad would be my only two changes

[burnt stirrup]

Its for 405M fans i guess

Not for ergonomics fans

[eager pelican]

we complained a lot about the stick position on the 405m

[gray warren]

actually stick on top would be absolutely atrocious for this device

[silk arrow]

Eait

Stick top and inline shoulders?

[gray warren]

main reason why i didnt like the 405m

i never understood the mentality of stick on top on devices like this

[devout estuary]

if the caps are removable i'm out, lost caps on my RP mini and rp5 almost immediately pulling it out of my pocket and bag

[final isle]

Pretty sure they're the same sticks as the 406h/v, the ones that pop off super easily

[eager pelican]

better those than the rg557 ones

[final isle]

Think I would've preferred those on this one actually

[eager pelican]

they are fucking tiny on the Slide already, the sticks are fine, but the caps would be a huge nope on this tbh

[shut cedar]

It didnt really make sense for that handheld cuz it is so weak

[eager pelican]

true true, well it's okay for N64/DC, but yeah it ain't really does many stick centric systems

honestly I don't mind tho, flat slab devices make it relatively easy to slide your hand down for the 2ndary inputs

and also this is as tall as an rgb30, so it should be totally fine

[shut cedar]

This will be alot like the pocket ace with a different aspect ratio

[eager pelican]

ACE my beloved, not that I will ever play anything but GBA on that

[shut cedar]

And its crazy cuz of how well the ace can play modern consoles

[silk arrow]

Give us sliders you cowards

[shut cedar]

Rp flip 1 or 2?

[silk arrow]

What

[shut cedar]

Which do u prefer?

[silk arrow]

Neither?

[eager pelican]

I refuse to use my premium GBA for anything else

[silk arrow]

I'd rather cut my balls off than buy another retroid product

[shut cedar]

Looking forward to trying gba on the flip 1s ds

[eager pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-betrayed-mouth-open-what-gif-17370179

[gray warren]

dead on arrival if this is a T820

[shut cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

But hey i could be wrong

[silk arrow]

I mean

Naming scheme clearly shows it's D8300

Otherwise it'd be called 476

[final isle]

8 elite or bust honestly

[vital kelp]

Posted on RH Facebook not sure of source lol

[eager pelican]

domestic pricing is always less than what we have to suffer

[oak wedge]

shit wtf

i love this design

[quartz hound]

Did not expect a Brandon meme but here we are lol

Scrolling through this chat log is something....

[lusty star]

Mb

[quartz hound]

No don't worry everyone needs to see some Pikachu bakery twerking and getting milked on

[final isle]

Looks like this will be $280 retail then if I'm reading it right

[vital kelp]

Yeah I'm guessing very close to 557

[lusty star]

235-263 for early bird

People might wanna wait for this to drop in price or be discounted further

[sudden sable]

Kinda bummed they went with the D8300 for this one. The chipset has great performance, but Anbernic's Android build for the D8300 is buggy and crashy as all heck. It was the main reason I returned my RG557 for a refund. It's weird how their T820 Android build was so stable and nice but they completely screwed the pooch on their D8300 build. 😵‍💫

[loud shuttle]

The trick is that the T820 build was also shit in the beginning. They just got to iterate and update the firmware while working on new devices for the T820 since they made 5 different consoles with it. (So same story as StockOS for the H700 handhelds).

[sudden sable]

So fingers crossed that their D8300 build gets more stable over time? 🤞

[loud shuttle]

Maybe? Depends on how many of them they do.

[cosmic spruce]

This is luxurious handheld for me.

[gray warren]

Fun fact, the 4.7 screen on it’s side is taller AND longer than the cube’s screen

You can get pretty sweet DS/3DS results

[livid cypress]

Maybe

But hey everyone

Missed you guys 🥹

Anyway I hope for anbernic sake this one is not a big mess for them

[wintry halo]

such a dumb move to attempt pocketability with inline shoulder buttons and flat back and then completely drop the ball with those awful tall sticks.

like cmon Anbernic, just put the 353M sticks in there to make it flush with the dpad and face buttons. but nooo gotta have muh gamer RGB sticks

[livid cypress]

Anbernic making Good decisions on their devices = impossible level

[tawny scaffold]

It neither makes the pocketability fans happy or the analog trigger fans happy, I don't get them at all

[eager pelican]

yeah the sticks certainly ain't it

them being pretty flush was the nice thing about the 405m

[tawny scaffold]

Yeah it looks so pocket friendly

[eager pelican]

this is Ayneo level of sticking out

[livid cypress]

Well

Rp mini win again 👀

[tawny scaffold]

It's anbernic in the end, this is only the 2nd device using the d8300 i believe? They must have 10 more designs left for the year

[livid cypress]

Yeah

[tawny scaffold]

Maybe they'll make an rg407h

[livid cypress]

Next up clamshell d8300 device

[livid cypress]

Nope I don't think so

Maybe rg407v

My money is clamshell device and Vertical device of d8300 devices

[eager pelican]

pretty sure they rather will use their 4.7" screen for upcoming stuff

[tawny scaffold]

I can see them doing a dual screen clamshell next year, with retroid doing that accessory and the emulator updates, it's looking very likely now

And unlike miyoo they know how to make a decent hinge

[livid cypress]

Yeppp

[livid cypress]

Idk maybe rgcube v2

[eager pelican]

this screen ain't cubing man

[tawny scaffold]

The cube was a 1:1 screen though

Unless they get another custom 1:1 screen, which would be pretty niche

[eager pelican]

rg477v/h could be in the cards, but honestly I wouldn't care too much about those

there is a 5" 1440x1440 screen tho

[tawny scaffold]

5" vertical handheld would be insane

[copper nimbus]

probably not pocketable though

[livid cypress]

I don't see the h coming out but might im wrong

Deffo V i would see that

[final isle]

Yeah, this is basically the horizontal, maybe they'll make a plastic version

[thorn flame]

Oh man, I love it, this would be a beast

[burnt comet]

$280

Anbernice had two expensive handhelds before

The RG552

And the Win600

I hate metal this size, it will be waaaaaaaayyyyy to heavy

I am gonna buy one and throw away the metal

[livid cypress]

And rg557

[burnt comet]

Print a plastic shell

[final isle]

Early bird discount seems bigger than usual

[livid cypress]

Three expensive handhelds rg557 rg552 and win600

Definition of shit experience maybe rg552 i can allow

[burnt comet]

I own the 552 and it a great handheld. It even was Russ’ his fave handheld for arcade games for a while

[eager pelican]

still too expensive and battery life sucks ass

[burnt comet]

Battery life is bad yes, but for home playing it still is great. Especially arcade games, megadrive, neogeo

Beautiful screen

Its already 3 years old

[mystic sable]

its far too heavy to taken places imo

[burnt comet]

Yes, it is a home system

[vale crest]

thankfully there are other 5.5" 1080p handhelds nowadays 😆

[mystic sable]

none of them

have a better screen

than 552

imo

screw oled

[vale crest]

gotta compromise somewhere

[mystic sable]

no

[eager pelican]

just own everything

[mystic sable]

give me the screen of 552 with the power of RP5

NOW GIVE IT TO ME

[vale crest]

552 screen isn't available anymore

[mystic sable]

and this is why i keep crying about it

[eager pelican]

just build it yourself from an rg552 and RP5

[mystic sable]

and then become Bankrupt coz i cant mass produce it for profit?

nah im good thanks

i will live with RG477

[eager pelican]

who said you should mass produce it?

just Frankenstein your own device out of these two

[mystic sable]

so

how expensive is this device gonna be

477m

we know the 557 is like 250

this is metal

so...........275-300? + 20ish shipping

[eager pelican]

$300 at least

$230 for base 007 line device
+$20 for the custom screen
+$50 for the metal shell
+shipping and tax

[mystic sable]

if i wasnt after a 4:3 device

[eager pelican]

and then the screen falls out

[mystic sable]

i would not even consider this

[eager pelican]

you could still SLIDE away at half the price

but I will argue that the damn thing ain't comfortable

[mystic sable]

getting carpal tunnel is part of the fun of this hobby

as well as modding

and installing new os

but not actually playing any games

[eager pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[lusty star]

I'll settle for the ktr1 screen, but all devices with that thing seem to have been paused

except for the ace which costs 5 billion

[copper nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

[tame shadow]

I love metal shells, but it seems like an aluminium body and high powered SoC are a bad combo

Or really any SoC that needs more active cooling

[urban flame]

Metal case acts like a heatsink, transferring heat elsewhere. So actually better for fast CPU. case does feel warm, however.

[gray warren]

i find it funny that this thing will be close to the height of the rgb30 due to the screen actually being taller than that one

[tawny scaffold]

Wouldn't the elsewhere simply be your hands? Feels like it could get uncomfortable if you play something really intensive

[tame shadow]

It won't burn you, but I don't like it when I can feel the warmth in my hands

[fallow eagle]

honestly you don't even need to put it on its side since it's 4:3. The top 3DS screen is 400x240 so you can just 3x that (1200x720) and still have enough vertical space for a 1x bottom screen (320x240)

the bottom screen would be small but visible enough for what you'd need it for

and then regular DS you can just do 3x top screen 2x bottom or if you really wanna min max 4x top 1x bottom 😂

[gray warren]

Yeah it’s actually pretty great either way.

[mystic sable]

would take this if its more stable than d8300

[buoyant zealot]

Conflicted on this being inline shoulder buttons, instead of analogue triggers. Will PS2/GC/DC racing games suck without analogue triggers?

[heavy mason]

Ps2 didnt have analog triggers

A majority of GameCube ones didn't use them either
Racing games might be the biggest issue

[normal venture]

Don't understand the issues with the shoulder buttons. It's easily do-able for any game in any setting. Unless of course you got small hands.

[copper juniper]

Welcome back!

[plucky abyss]

how does this compare to the Retroid Pocket Flip? because even the discounted price on the cheapest option is slightly more expensive than that

[marsh osprey]

Omg i have been wqiting for this to release and now it is there, again anbernic style, trying to make everybody happy, so we got heavy metal case for it to be rugged(but not very pocietfriendly), inline shoulder buttons and flat for it to be pocketable(but not ergonomic at all), big joystick to be accurate(but not pocketable at all). I wonder of this company will ever build devices that have a concept for it to follow or if they will forever just randomly put some parts together and hope it will be a good match. And the best part is it seems it will be 60-70$ more expensive than flip2 (which is quite good in all of these categories). I dont get this man, i do not get this.

[feral goblet]

It's not

[copper juniper]

its anbernic, they do things that don't make sense 😄

[buoyant zealot]

How much smaller is the Flip 2's screen for 4:3 games?

[eternal nacelle]

This is Maxzhou's hilarious reply to a guy who was trying to teach him how to make a handheld. You could translate it using ai.

[plucky abyss]

I'm rolling at the 大氣層 comment lmao

[pine bear]

I vote to make this the new Anbernic meme

hell the entire post makes a great copypasta

[eager pelican]

I don't speak Chinese

[thorn flame]

I like this part the most : *5. Do you understand electrodynamics? Do you understand quantum mechanics? Do you understand mathematics? Do you understand philosophy? You know nothing, you are a mentally censored * person, and you dare to question me?

I had to censor the R word, otherwise Discord wouldn't allow me to post it xD

It's super funny that Max thinks that knowledge of quantum mechanics and philosophy is an advantage when ones design a handheld

[final isle]

Okay I need to know what they could've said to make him this mad

[thorn flame]

😄

[spare grove]

With your qualifications, you are not qualified

[coarse nimbus]

@carmine plover look what I've found lol

[eager pelican]

He seems to lose some screws with any handheld he makes

[thorn flame]

I don't know why I kinda imagine furious Tommy Wiseau from The Room when reading this xD

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-outta-here-tommy-wiseau-angry-throw-gif-12221605

[warm tinsel]

Spamton G. Spamton speech bubble

[valid gale]

Tbf hes not the only one at anbernic

That being said the 406h should have been 406m, and this should have been the 477h with ergo grips and analog triggers

They might still do that but I dont have hope

[fallen oak]

Good bad moive.

[somber violet]

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!!.. WAIT... METAL?!?

And 4:3?!?

Hell yeah!🤘

[sly shuttle]

Sure acts as a natural hand warmer

[somber violet]

Egh that's never bothered me

[silk arrow]

I’m actually pretty on board with this device

Metal just means the shell is more sturdy

I am very very happy about inline shoulders plus lcd

This is pretty much everything I’ve wanted

[somber violet]

Won't this thing also have the same chipset that the flip 2 just released a few days ago??

[eager pelican]

the sticks not being flush-ish is the real nitpick I have with this

well and the price probably being $299

[silk arrow]

The what

[eager pelican]

nah Flip 2 D1100 is the RP4pro SoC

D8300 is way more powerful

[silk arrow]

How long till we see stickless mods

That brass color one looks mighty fine if I’m honest

[eager pelican]

like waaay more powerful

[silk arrow]

Honestly glad they went d8300 with the 960p screen

I wanna push my GC Wii and PS2 to the max

[silk arrow]

Yeah

[eager pelican]

this honestly ain't too far behind the SD8gen2 in terms of raw power, easily handles 4x upscale on most GCN/PS2 games... the issue are the drivers and Anbernics shit Android build

[silk arrow]

Yeah only issue is gpu drivers

[somber violet]

This thing cooks the flip completely

[silk arrow]

Not completely but yeah

It’s can brute force more stuff

[eager pelican]

in raw power yeah, end results may be in favor of the Flip 2 due to driver compatibility heavily favoring Snapdragon... well the D1100 Flip2 is cooked indeed

but given how this has a 4:3 screen, it's kinda fine tbh, not gonna play WiiU/Switch on this anyway

and performance up to GCN/PS2 is perfectly fine

[silk arrow]

Shaders gonna be tasty on this screen

[somber violet]

Don't really fuck with drivers unless it's switch in which i kinda hate

[eager pelican]

the bigger issue I have is honestly with it's price... like if Anbernic wouldn't be greedy fucks this should be $239 at most

[silk arrow]

Oh yeah 120hz too right

[somber violet]

Yup should be.. im guessing if this thing has the slide screen

[eager pelican]

yep, same screen

[wheat geode]

If it’s below 275 I’d be shocked tbh

Maybe at bulk they can get the metal shells cheaper, but it’s always pricey

[eager pelican]

I would be shocked if it's less than $299

but they massively overprice the used SoC

like I can get a phone with same SoC, RAM/ROM for 200 taxed and shipped

meanwhile they made the rg557 $250

[compact osprey]

I think someone did the math and it was $277 USD

[eager pelican]

yeah it's $277 domestically

always more expensive when they sell it outside of China tho

[compact osprey]

At that point, save some extra money & get the AYN Portal

[eager pelican]

and quite frankly, they apparently can afford to sell it at $235

[compact osprey]

Metal Tax + D8300 Tax

[eager pelican]

so I may be willing to go as far as $249 for international pricing, but everything over it should be shunned and sat on until they drop the price

[eager pelican]

you forgot the custom screen tax

[compact osprey]

It's not custom screen anymore, now it's part of 2 devices

[copper nimbus]

close to 300 dollars?

that's like the same price as a refurbished steamdeck

Not really crazy about that

[summer turret]

The thing about Anbernic prices is they always eventually drop with sales. Unlike AYN or Retroid which maintain pricing.

[wheat geode]

Yeah launch price is basically an early adopters fee

But still, quite pricey

Once it gets to Ali sales it will probably be more worth a look imo

[final isle]

It seems like there's going to be a pretty big early bird discount at least, msrp is too close to the odin 2 mini though imo

[summer turret]

This will probably go for 200ish on Ali Sales. Like the RG557.

Be patient and you will be rewarded

[wheat geode]

Ehhh, I’d guess Ali coupons would get it down to 240 or so. Probably better after a year but by then there will be something new

557 had a lower starting point

[copper nimbus]

maybe if in a few years we wont have any better options in the pocketable category I can see myself getting it for like 210 dollars

[wheat geode]

Still can’t believe no one has done a flat back for the RP Mini v2. I think that would probably be my end game if it would be thin enough to be pocketable

[eager pelican]

would probably be pointless given the triggers

[plucky abyss]

sent this in the official Anbernic QQ chat and people there said that this is fake

[plucky abyss]

do you think it'd be worth buying at 235? or should I go for something from AYN or Retroid at that price point?

[compact osprey]

That is funny, someone said that was where they ripped it from originally just translated it to English

[plucky abyss]

yeah I sent the Chinese version lol

[compact osprey]

The pricing really doesn't seem far off. D8300 + metal shell costs

[eager pelican]

I mean, it will be a nice device for anything up to GCN/PS2, albeit having only digital triggers will be limiting for some titles, but both the Retroid and Ayn devices will do better beyond that

[compact osprey]

$250 got us the 557. So why would this be cheaper or even the same price?

[eager pelican]

$235 is the Chinese early bird price, $275 the regular one

but given how domestic prices are always lower, I still bet on $299 with $10 off for the first 3 days

[plucky abyss]

yeah I just wanted to know the value for money here if it goes for 235, I'm tempted to buy a Retroid device but don't really want an OLED screen

[eager pelican]

you could get an Ayaneo Pocket S2

6.3" 1440p IPS panel

[plucky abyss]

stick on top though

but yeah it looks very interesting outside of that

[eager pelican]

fair I guess, but at the higher end d-pad on top is rather rare

well the Pocket ACE has it, so that may be an expensive option

[copper nimbus]

when are we getting the mortgage screen?

[eager pelican]

gosh I love my ACE, nicest GBA

[tame creek]

@eager pelican I have been really considering an ace, is it pocketable at all?

[copper nimbus]

steamdeck though

[plucky abyss]

oh yeah it looks fantastic for GBA lmao

[eager pelican]

I mean... the sticks ain't really inset, but aside from that it's a pretty flat slab, not that the 447m will be any better in that regard

[tame creek]

Talk me out of buying it. Or talk me into it. Is it as awesome as it looks??

[eager pelican]

I mean the Ayn Odin 2 Mini is probably the more reasonably priced option for 90% of the people looking for a handheld that size and with that kinda power... but I really like it, so if you are more into the IPS panel instead of the Mini LED or want to pay to have a d-pad on top there ain't really anything like it... let alone that it's a 3:2 panel

[shut cedar]

4:3 and it has a better refresh rate AND IS METAL

[gray warren]

just use a grip

[waxen heron]

the "has to fit pocket" obsession strikes again

I think this device is too large already to make all these ergonomic tradeoffs

[gray warren]

doesnt need to be pocketable, the slimness is just kinda cool

[waxen heron]

if it goes into a backpack I think better ergo is preferred but what do I know

I guess for a pocketable vertical the 405M was pretty good

[gray warren]

those rounded edges look pretty sweet

[waxen heron]

maybe they make a plastic version of it with more ergonomic shape and sticks like the 406H

would be a 477H I guess

[gray warren]

If the 407v ends up being a thing, can they NOT use the 4 inch screen

Give me the 477v

I want a MASSIVE VERTICAL

come on man, they can do it

[waxen heron]

that said if they made a 477H in more ergonomic I would still wish it used a snapdragon chip with linux support for rocknix

[gray warren]

I really don’t care for linux, but winlator and better switch would be nice

but with everything up to ps2 working wonderfully on the 8300, id say that its nowhere near a bad chip

[waxen heron]

personally I dislike android but I know a lot of people do not mind

[silk arrow]

As long as it doesn’t have the same diamond cutter nipples that the 406V had

[tame creek]

Honestly it's the 3:2 that's intriguing me the most. GBA looks incredible on it, and 3:2 is a nice middle ground for scaling other things as well. Expensive GBA though

[tame creek]

Bro that's what the 40 is 407 means

[eager pelican]

worth it tho

[final isle]

Well I mean if you're gonna sacrifice ergonomics then yeah

[eager pelican]

well, nitpicking a lil is that GBA actually is a 4.5x scale on this screen, would have preferred it to be 5x

[tame creek]

Yeah it's definitely an odd choice that they picked a perfect aspect ratio for GBA but not a perfect resolution for integer scaling

[eager pelican]

they just use the screens that are available and honestly Ayaneo is the last company for which a custom screen would pay off 😅

way to small amounts of handhelds they sell

[gray warren]

which is why I said I wanted a 477v right afterwards

[loud shuttle]

Damn, just now noticed it, but it’s the next ##7 device after the 557 and they already lowered the Internal storage from 256GB back to 128GB.

[tame creek]

True, I feel like most of their products sell less than 200 units if the indiegogo numbers are anything to go by

[eager pelican]

well, I don't think their domestic customers are included in the IGG campaigns

but yeah most devices probably do only like 1000 unit runs or something

[loud shuttle]

Like, I’m not the only one who noticed this part right? They’re still keeping the 12GB RAM but decreasing the Internal Storage?

[eager pelican]

stinky

[mystic sable]

this was absolutely hilarious

[mystic sable]

can we be the anti android club

[gray warren]

Better than 8 + 256

imo

[loud shuttle]

I’d unironically rather have the 256 storage than the 12 ram.

Literal only game I’d ever personally want to play on Android that at least seemed to need 12GB on board RAM was FFIX with Moguri, everything else is just fine with 8GB, and while I don’t play much native Android games, I do very much so enjoy stuff like texture packs for GC/PS2/Wii/3DS/etc, and those build up with time when I add in the native Android ports I do like playing.

…That and switch updates/dlc, but those only take up like 15GB-25GB depending on what switch games I’m trying to emulate currently (since I already usually prefer just playing on modded Switch Lite, but I’m not taking that with me everywhere).

[loud shuttle]

Oh, and just to be clear, I’m not really trying to say “you’re wrong to prefer more ram” or anything dumb like that, I’m mostly just explaining fully my own reasoning for preferring more Internal Storage to Ram (although I definitely wouldn’t turn down both). Obviously anyone who’s using stuff that is Ram intensive will likely need more ram.

Like, genuinely not joking when I say I went into “over explaining my reasoning” mode.

[eternal nacelle]

the pic of the price is fake ，not official

[gray warren]

@loud shuttle

I don’t really find a problem with all you’ve said, even before you clarified (thanks for doing so anyways, you’re kind). More storage is nice in any case, especially with texture replacements and whatnot, even if the only game I care to have upscaled textures within doesn’t load them in Aether, very very annoying and frustrating.

I like more ram because the idea of it feels nice, I could go on about longevity but I don’t really think that matters, since my 405v is pretty much eternal with GammaOS lite and that has 4GB. Either way, I’d be fine with both configurations, having less ram doesn’t really ruin the D8300 experience, same with storage since 128 is more than enough for me. But yeah, 12 ram on this thing sounds kinda sweet because of some overall android performance stuff, even if it’s slight in a fair amount of circumstances.

sorry if this is long, that last part you put was pretty respectable sooo i just felt like it

[eternal nacelle]

355g, 14mm

[fallow eagle]

14mm is insane

[gray warren]

Is Anbernic selling their own case..? SO COOL

[tardy valve]

eh, not really, 505 is 18.5mm, rgb30 is 18mm, 351m is 18mm, rp3+ is 15mm.. kinda doubt it's only 14mm tbh, but i'm here for it if it's thick (edit: thought you meant it was insanely thick lol). 355g is like 3/4 lb tho, absolute weapon

[fallow eagle]

14mm at its thinnest point would be really solid for a machine this powerful, but this doesn't have huge protruding grips or shoulder buttons.

[tardy valve]

yah thinner than an rp3+ would be nuts, wish we'd get some pictures with it next to something for scale

[formal nova]

wait even thinner than rp3+? damn that was painfull to hold

[tardy valve]

yah i'm really hoping it's thicker, it definitely looks thicker from what i've seen so far

[formal nova]

phone corpos are even worse at this
they want the phones/tablets to be so thin it cuts into your hands for some strange masochistic reasons

[loud hazel]

Looks cool, but 300 buckaroos and mediatek drivers? Man

What's the screen resolution?

[tardy valve]

1280x960 (for real this time ), same screen in the slide

[exotic quarry]

Max Zhou revealed more information about the 477M: There is no 477H. The 447M is made specifically targeting the KTR1S, because KTR1S is also a metal-bodied handheld with a 7300 chip, selling for 1799 yuan

I guess Max Zhou also has some beef with KT Pocket, just like when he released the RG Cube to destroy the ZPG A1 Unicorn

[formal nova]

so basically revenge hanheld

[loud hazel]

why does Max Zhou have beef with everyone

[formal nova]

and not really general public requested one 😄

[copper nimbus]

thats heavy

uhh.. well

I guess it's not that much heavier than a 3ds xl

should be fine

[prisma vale]

So basically about two phones

[valid gale]

That seems crazy lol, I don't think most people even knew about the ktr1s let alone were going to buy it

[tardy valve]

if it helps him push out bangers i'm all for it

[pine bear]

Oh alright, I guess we now have confirmation that the KTR1S is coming

[compact osprey]

Omg....its lighter than the RG Slide

[copper nimbus]

Well duh

Sliding mechanism probably adds a lot of weight

[compact osprey]

Yes, but this is a FULL metal Casing

[tardy valve]

"slide teardown finds the insides are made entirely of tungsten, ketamine & war stories"

[celest sage]

should've been 18mm thick so those sticks wouldn't protrude

[tardy valve]

& bigger battery, 557 wasn't amazing & the battery in this will no doubt be smaller

[valid gale]

That would make sense as to why the dpad is on top i guess? Usually they do analog on top for anything over a certain price

[shut cedar]

This the first device i plan on getting a clip shield for to make it pocketable

[plucky abyss]

think there have been complaints locally over analog on top for everything that's mid-tier or higher

especially for models that have screens which are perfect for dpad-heavy games

[valid gale]

Yea im ok either way though I do feel like I prefer analog on top because using both sticks sucks when they're both on the bottom

But there's only a small amount of games where you use both sticks regularly tbf

[silk arrow]

I agree

[devout estuary]

All in, but I really wish that bronze was black, or the silver had black buttons, both are unappealing to me, but not so much that I won’t get it.
Black 405m with better button mod is still cooler than this, but I could use a bigger better screen for my dumb old eyes

[sly shuttle]

If it's playing WuWu then it's a D8300 almost guaranteed

[shut cedar]

The 7 at the end of the name guarantees it

[sly shuttle]

Sure if you lf ypu knew how the naming scheme worked

[livid cypress]

Yeah safe

[livid cypress]

He want to be the top

[fallen oak]

280 is a hard pill. I know metal. Just wish anbernic would move to SDs. Oh well.

[silk arrow]

Are will still debating if the RG XX7 device is d8300 or not lol

[formal nova]

28xxVM

[fallen oak]

that would be fun

[loud shuttle]

He has beef with everyone but Retroid and Ayn for whatever reason.

Who knows, maybe Anbernic is working with Retroid and Ayn and that’s why they conveniently don’t beef with each other on an actual marketing standpoint (or at least Max)? Budget, Midrange, and high end all covered by one each, where they only dabble in other ends every once in a while?

[final isle]

Yeah it's kind of funny how he seems to only punch down, like the ZPG unicorn, the miyoo flip, and now the new KTR1.

[loud shuttle]

I mean I’d punch the KTR1 too, regardless of whether they were above or below me.

Hell, if they’re below, then I can kick them while they’re down which is even better.

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-stomp-kick-wen-life-hits-us-ouch-gif-16592611

[shut cedar]

Theres a case on this no like a tpu edge guard

[valid gale]

So this is 14mm at its thinnest point, was the rp3 24mm at its thickest or is that not including the sticks or triggers

I can't seem to find much online on that

[tardy valve]

having a hard time believing the 477m is that thin tbh

[valid gale]

Yea ain't no way lmao

Or they're doing the battery right up against the cpu again. And it would have to be a thin battery too

[tardy valve]

Messed with the brightness/contrast to get a better look at it

[gray warren]

stacked will always be better than inline, but honestly? these seem well designed

[mystic sable]

are sticks relatively flushed?

if they are popping out

bad design

[silk arrow]

No

It’s got diamond cutter nipples like 406V

[valid gale]

I dont think it will be a big deal on a device this thin imo. The bumps made it worse on the 406h

[white palm]

This being $250+ will push me to finally getting a 406h

[short quest]

For that price I'm gonna wait for reviews and it'll have to be near perfect.

My Odin 2 will live forever

I hope lol

[white palm]

What was the 405m at launch?

[fallow eagle]

150-160ish?

[normal venture]

depends on your skill issue. In line is fine same with stacked

[gray warren]

Kingdom hearts doesn’t utilize L2 and R2 at all

I’m pretty good when it comes to that

[dreamy burrow]

Sexy, long live the skittles

[copper juniper]

its a really solid little machine the 406h 🙂

[copper nimbus]

that shell looks pretty

[marsh osprey]

I still dont uderstand why did they use a chip capable of playing up to switch in a 4:3 handheld…

Otherwise the desing looks good, such a big 4:3 screen is amazing, but asking 300$ for a ps2 handheld with terrible ergonomy (will be able to play what, like 20minutes until i get cramps?) seems too pricey, but maybe thats just me. Seems ill continue playing ps2 games on my sd and low end 4:3 system on my myioo mini and keep drraming about reasonable ps2 and below handheld. Or maybe ill finally get the 406h 😄

[burnt comet]

I offer $100 for a black plastic copy of this

[pine bear]

start and select bottom, just how we like it

Retroid/AYN had to learn the hard way the proper place to put start/select in but Anbernic is like "nope, don't care, not my problem"

[burnt comet]

The rg405m is 413 gram 😳😳😳

[lapis crown]

has it the rg556 chip or rg557 chip?

[silk arrow]

557 chip unless they decided the 7 means something else now

[lapis crown]

thank you

it rly reminds me the rg405m which was my 1st anbernic handheld and I miss it.

[thorn flame]

I still have mine, but I'm not a fan tbh 😛 it's too heavy and gets super warm because of aluminium shell

I would prefer plastic version of 477 as well

but TBH I think the sticks are not protruding that much as I was thinking :

Its just a shame they wont do a plastic version

[shut cedar]

They might have a 477h just be patient

[lapis crown]

and I me thinking they were working on a DS like handheld.

[formal nova]

gimme 447arc

[shut cedar]

They probably are

[wheat geode]

They can do multiple devices at once in their pipeline I’m sure. This one is further along as it’s been announced, others are probably in various design phases. It’s not like it’s just 2 dudes wearing all the hats at this point haha

[prisma vale]

Funnily enough, of course it would be even bigger than this, but probably lighter

[formal nova]

I dontbcare for bigger... I just want my ultimate sega handheld ... arc was almost there but not strong enough

[devout estuary]

i'm in on this, looks great, WISH it was black, that's gonna really bug me, I find both of these options pretty gross. 405m is near perfect, just would like a better screen. give me all back! but yeah if this fits in my pocket better than the flip 2 i'll be super pumped. I have to admit though, even in the US, now i'm nervous about ordering anbernic after that Italy YTer thing. I wish they sold without the SD card

[shut cedar]

They do sell without the sd card

[urban flame]

Please make the start/select buttons quieter than the 405m

[delicate lynx]

People on reddit have been exhausting about this. At least you asked it as a sincere question.
Basically when you start adding shaders, filters, and BFI on top of each-other that adds up to a lot more processing power than you might think so there is absolutely a legitimate use case for a system aimed primarily at the 8-16bit era having more power than strictly necessary to run them. A premium device aimed at that market isn't that crazy given some of the other stuff we've seen.

[sly shuttle]

Reddit has always been pretty shitty but it’s only gotten worse lately , used to visit SBC sub all the time now it’s just filled with “ what handheld should I buy” or get dog piled for having a different opinion besides the usual hive mind mentality.

[silk arrow]

I appreciate having a chip capable of doing everything up to Wii at 960p equivalent resolution scale no problem

[valid gale]

Its just a bunch of posts telling people to get rp5s. And how oled is the greatest thing ever

[silk arrow]

Oled is good but over hyped

People make it out to be way more than it actually is

[valid gale]

I agree, its nice for 3d games but I really don't like the way it makes retro games and shaders look

[silk arrow]

Plus there’s stuff like burn in and PWM flicker most people conveniently omit

[copper nimbus]

What I've learnt is that good ips can be close enough to ips

[silk arrow]

Yeah there are damn good IPS out there

[copper nimbus]

my y700 looks amazing

[sly shuttle]

It's the same screen on the Legion Go and almost OLED like but without the drawback

[fickle stirrup]

If you are a vampire and usually have a very dark environment around you, OLED vs LCD is a much more obvious difference. If you're paying outside yeah it isn't that different

[silk arrow]

I think this might be my endgame

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

This one is endgame for sure this time

[formal nova]

the endgame to end all games

[harsh salmon]

anyone have a guess on price? the 557 is crazy expensive

i was gonna get an RP Mini to replace my 405M... but might as well wait for this

wouldn't this chip be overkill for the games/systems we would play at 4:3 anyway?

[burnt comet]

They do it on purpose, they got feedback that everyone liked both rg405m colours, so they went: “ we must not bring out those 2 colors, then it will be the perfect handheld and they will stop buying new stuff, lets give them these 2 shit colors, poop brown and piss white”

[copper nimbus]

this is gonna be like the most powerful dpad on top handheld released aside from like the steamdeck

[shut cedar]

Rp mini -> rg477m -> pocket ace

[harsh salmon]

i wish they went with a less powerful chip for the 477. it's not likeo switch emulation will be enjoyable

or be good for streaming

[loud shuttle]

You forgot about the Pocket Ace.

Don’t blame you for forgetting it, but this thing is still definitely gonna be less powerful than it.

[copper nimbus]

oh yeah

haha, yeah very forgettable device

I guess the ayaneo pocket dmg also counts

[loud shuttle]

I’d say it doesn’t since D-Pad on top is the default for Vertical handhelds so there’s nothing for it to compete against, but there have been some very cursed creations that almost felt intended to spite that.

[formal nova]

just you guys wait for the to release of the true peak aka TJD T80

[shut cedar]

Doesnt meet criteria

[copper nimbus]

specs?

[formal nova]

you havent seen the ultimate brilliance and full glory of the peak ?

[copper nimbus]

Is this satire?

[silk arrow]

I’d prefer having enough power to max out the screen resolution with every system that supports 4:3

[silk arrow]

Unfortunately no

[harsh salmon]

even at like 3x 4x upscaling, isn't this chip overkill?

[silk arrow]

T820 can’t do 2X on a fair number of GC and PS2 games

[harsh salmon]

ah ok. then I'm mistaken. sry been out of the game for a while

[formal nova]

T820 can struggle a lot for problematic ps2 titles

[harsh salmon]

i "just bought a steam deck" and stopped looking at retro. handhelds for like 2 years lmao

[formal nova]

unleass you heavily tweak

[harsh salmon]

but now i'm itching to get back into the hobby

[somber violet]

I absolutely hate tweaking settings. Huge part of why I dont fuck with ps2 emulation even on my s23 ultra.

Its worth the powerful chip for me just to not have to fuck with any of that

[formal nova]

tbh there are games

where we are ultimately constrained by software rather than the HW

and will be iffy even on sd8g3

[plucky abyss]

tbf powerful enough hardware can bruteforce its way through those issues, it's just that it'd cost a fuckton of money lol

[formal nova]

yes

but its still bruteforce and not perfect

at least from my experience with stuff like ... Rogue Leader or Dirge of Cerberus on sd8g2

[somber violet]

U can brute force your way on dolphin pretty easily at least for the games on the gamecube library.

Im pretty sure ps2 is more difficult due to the level of complexity to emulate the hardware.

Its not necessarily more powerful though. Gamecube takes the cake which i find interesting.

[tame creek]

I couldn't talk myself out of it. Ended up ordering the 12GB pocket ace after watching a bunch of reviews on it. Tech Dweeb's review pushed me over the edge

[earnest sonnet]

Same, contemplated between so many devices, still can't get over the 3:2 4.5" screen with a powerful chip, even though it's kinda overpriced

[tame creek]

That was my main draw too. Plus it looks sooo good

I wish it was OLED, but it is still a nice looking ips

[somber violet]

For strictly gba or what else??

[silk arrow]

Pocket ace not being perfect integer scale for gba absolutely killed it for me

[somber violet]

Oh damn..

That shit should have it at that price..

I think i may just the powkiddy v90s that just came out for a little 3:2 device. Seems perfect at like 30 something change if youre not sure you can get into gba. I had gba sp when I was kid but hmm...

Wait a minute.. the v90s is 4:3???

[tame creek]

No, I got it as an everything handheld, I just really like that 3:2 is a nice middle ratio between 16:9 and 4:3, so no matter what I play the letterboxing is minimal. I've been wanting a powerful non-pc handheld for quite a while now, so I finally made this my pick

[tame creek]

The Powkiddy v10 is a fun looking little 3:2 device for $40ish dollars. I still want one, but I'm trying not to hoard handhelds, and I already have too many.

[gray warren]

405m literally had ONE OF THESE COLORS

and imo, that looked great

[zealous snow]

Yup

[shrewd arch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-kind-of-a-sick-freak-does-that-disgusting-confused-mrs-maisel-the-marvelous-mrs-maisel-gif-15627066

[burnt comet]

Does anyone know if you can paint metal (or course you can) but without “feeling” the paint?

If i buy this , which paint will i have to use?

cc @devout estuary

What is that process called again, where you put in in a pan with paint and cook it

[burnt comet]

Guys , the 477 metal has exactly the same weight as the RG552p

4.7 metal versus 5.5 plastic

[shrewd arch]

You mean dye the metal?

Anodizing?

[silk arrow]

Yeah anodizing I think

Depends on the metal tho

Whatever it's called it's just using magnets or some other plasma magic to fuse a different colored metal to the surface

[burnt comet]

Dyeing

[tame creek]

I wonder if anodizing would work since it's already anodized?

Google to the rescue. To re-anodize you will have to either sandblast or chemically strip the existing anodized coating, so quite a large amount of work, but certainly doable for the industrious individual

Honestly that's sounding like kind of a fun way to spice up my 405m, but I don't know if I'm fully committed to tearing my screen out and trying to re-adhere it after 😭

[eager pelican]

there is no 552m tho

[burnt comet]

Yes, 552p I mean

[pine bear]

and that handheld wasn't exactly considered lightweight... I can't imagine having that weight in a more compact form factor

the density of the sun, in the palm of your hand

[copper nimbus]

3ds xl is like 320 grams though

and it's basically the same size as this

and it doesn't really feel that heavy to be honest

[devout estuary]

I wish i had the balls and skill for this

[surreal pond]

motocycle paint, a bit expensive though as you need to apply multiple layers

[rain harbor]

I think I will buy it without SD Card

[burnt comet]

Well, the small rg405m is 413 grams ….. so it is 15% lighter

The rg351mp is 267 grams so it is in between the 351 and 405

[silk arrow]

I wish they’d make these handhelds out of tougher metals

Like stainless steel

Or tungsten

[copper nimbus]

wow, the s23 ultra has a 4.8 inch screen when it comes to 4:3

making it bigger than the rg477m

[loud shuttle]

I was already interested in it due to me still having the siren call of a “Odin 2 level handheld that’s around the same size as an RP5 and with no MiniLED” in my head after I had to give up on the O2 Mini due to its screen (despite genuinely loving literally everything else about it, I cannot understate how much I hate the fact that the screen alone legit just ruined it for me).

So I ended up getting the 12GB version for the 256GB Internal Storage, and honestly I’m legit really liking the Ace.

[pine bear]

wait what

okay mad respect if true

I would have expected it to be heavier than the 405m

but I guess that goes to show how crazy heavy the 405m was

[eager pelican]

the 405m ain't heavy

[tame shadow]

It's actually the same weight as the RG406H lol

[celest sage]

What about the miniLED ruined it for you?

[amber knot]

That's in the box with all packaging, accessories, etc just fyi. The unit itself is 260g.

[tame creek]

That's the exact model I got, I'm crazy excited to get it. How long did yours take to ship? I just ordered mine yesterday so I anticipate multiple weeks before it ships

[loud shuttle]

I don’t know whether it’s a me thing alone or others as well, but the fact that you couldn’t turn off local dimming was particularly bad for me because my eyes seem to utterly despises whatever makes it work on MiniLED in a way where HDR doesn’t bother me as much.

To be specific, it makes it so that, for retro and basically any 2D games in particular, dark colors look pretty much black regardless of what color it’s supposed to be, and makes bright colors look too bright (meaning if I tried to “just make it brighter for the dark colors”, the bright colors would end up being outright blindingly painful).

[loud shuttle]

“Newer” 3D games didn’t seem to be bad, but it’s pretty much dependent on games not having too much of a contrast in color brightness from what I can guess.

[eager pelican]

yeah the Mini LED screen ain't ideal for 2D pixel-arty games

hard to deny that, but a lot of people probably ain't bothered by it or just use something else as we all hoard these devices

[loud shuttle]

So, when you have a screen like that and eyes like mine, I end up needing to turn off local dimming on any MiniLED screens I ever use just to ensure I’m not laterally damaging my vision. And when that device doesn’t have a fucking local dimming toggle for its MiniLED screen, that’s when I end up having to give it up.

[loud shuttle]

With me in particular, I already know my MiniLED hate would sound crazy just for the fact that it’s outright something to do with my vision that only gets fucked up by this particular screen tech (like not even a general thing like PWM), so I’m already fine with people disagreeing on it (since of course anyone who doesn’t have whatever the hell my thing is won’t be bothered as much).

I’m still gonna complain about it since it’s something that could’ve been pretty freaking easily fixed by them simply adding a freaking toggle for local dimming. Instead, they haven’t updated the Odin 2 Mini at all since like a month or 2 after it was released.

[burnt comet]

Lol, AI sucks!

[celest sage]

Yeah I don’t mind miniLED on my one miniLED device but it’s also a much higher end one (MacBook Pro) - and being able to toggle local dimming seems like a no brainer.

[silk arrow]

The local dimming on my m1 iPad Pro was ass

[amber knot]

A lot of sites list the box weight as the console's weight for whatever reason. Honestly I don't even know why Anbernic bothers to list the box weight in the specs section of the product page.

[celest sage]

Never tried that screen, skipped from 9th gen base ipad to m4 pro lol

The tandem OLED on the m4 pro is hella nice for retro games

[prisma grotto]

from retrocatalog.com

i... do not believe the rg477m does not have wifi

[silk arrow]

Erm

What

[fallow eagle]

yeah retrocatalog has very wrong info on it

[prisma grotto]

lol yep ok

[celest sage]

lmao what

if anbernic stops including a headphone jack they're dead to me

[toxic tapir]

oh no

[silk arrow]

I honestly don’t remember the last time I used a headphone jack on something other than my dap

[celest sage]

I refuse to play games on mute and sometimes using speakers is not appropriate

[silk arrow]

I really hope there some lower profile stick mods for this

One case where I’d actually prefer switch sticks

[short quest]

I'm curious to know if it will work with the same stick caps as many others like the Odin 2 / RP5 etc.

[lusty star]

https://youtu.be/UCxT7HUMQPg?si=ieVA8rsw3Q4gkzTf

Ain’t wo way

[tardy valve]

gonna be pretty sick with the retroid one lol

[formal nova]

The RG 477M is crafted from 6063 aerospace-grade aluminum, meticulously machined with CNC technology, and features an anodized surface treatment, giving it an extraordinary texture.

lol

[tardy valve]

wifi 6e, bt 5.3

smaller than i was imagining, with all that power this thing's gonna be a banger

battery life will probably be rough tho

[formal nova]

i wont bite until they give e arc successor on this soc/screen 😛

also dont need the aerospace-grade aluminum

[tardy valve]

i'm here for it, that 'chocolate bronze' is too good

[exotic quarry]

We're so hype for an Anbernic 3DS clone, but this 3D printed monitor hack job is what we ended up with instead 😂

[sand belfry]

"It comes in two colors: Silver Blade and Chocolate Bronze. "

[lusty star]

Still better than DNA Duo

Maybe it’s a prototype tease.
Because they also do 3DS without a second screen.
It’s like they’re saying : „Hey there might be something coming in the future“

[tardy valve]

they're just letting us know to buy the retroid screen lol

[lusty star]

Nah Anbernic‘s to petty for that

[sand belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cadburys-chocolate-bar-sweets-candy-snack-gif-14419689

[lusty star]

Also remember this

Maybe it’s just Max being petty

[tardy valve]

not on purpose i mean, just like 'hey it works'

it'll be a pretty great combo tho

[lusty star]

Yeah some reviewers will definitely wanna test out that combo asap

[exotic quarry]

Yeah, one of their Chinese mods mentioned before that Anbernic has the dual screen software ready, so this is basically their proof of concept

[lusty star]

Oh yeah I remember you or someone else having mentioned that before

Now it all makes sense

[formal nova]

tbh with both main emulators now having experiemntal dualscreen modes ... its not that much of a task for th SW

only needs to have some options for multitasking needs

[exotic quarry]

There are always going to be bugs and compatibility issues with software and OS, so you really need good software support to like easily switch between different aspect ratios and make things user-friendly

Check out Onexsugar's approach to the dual screen software side, and even after seeing that, I still think there is alot of room for improvement

[formal nova]

absolutely

just saying that for the basic usage not much more s needed

but advance userfriendly stuff is alwys welcome

[pine bear]

aha, that explains it, all makes sense now

[loud shuttle]

Oh heat will also be rough without something like a clip-on grip thanks to metal being a good conductor of heat.

[pine bear]

weird flex but ok

"the Retroid thing is compatible with us!" almost like telling people to go buy from your competition

unless they come out with an addon of their own

[lusty star]

I think it’s just them telling that they’re software is ready for dual screens like kitsune said

[pine bear]

yeah, but who's selling dual screen accessories right now

[delicate lynx]

I think it's safe to say they're developing their own thing.

[pine bear]

maybe

[silk arrow]

Dual screen anbernic gonna go insanely hard

[delicate lynx]

This is why I'm holding off on the Retroid 5/screen add on deal. I feel like as soon as I get it i9n hand someone's going to announce a true two-screen device. We're getting too close.

[celest sage]

That colour does slap

I need lower profile sticks though

And gammaOS

[lusty star]

I need lower price though

And plastic shell + T820, heck even a G99 would suffice

[copper juniper]

so, not happening then :c

[silk arrow]

Chocolate bronze looks awesome. That’s what I’m grabbing

[halcyon glen]

Heh, very topical showcase with Paprium.

[amber knot]

ok but he didn't say no to an Arc Pro with this screen

[somber violet]

Why not just get an rg406h??

[formal nova]

too bulky?

[lusty star]

That thing is super thicc

Full ergo build, super tall sticks, an unwanted sets style dpad at the bottom

They really just had to swap dpad and stick position and put a T820 inside the 405m

But instead they fooled my asshole once again with the 406H and 477M

[burnt comet]

Exactly, this is a 4:3 handheld.

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

Actually no I understand it now

I want a chip that can’t max out the screen resolution

[delicate lynx]

Or run anything but the most rudimentary filters and shaders.

[celest sage]

t820 can run a fair number of shaders

[delicate lynx]

On a 120hz screen? And with black-frame insertion?
I know NES games don't need all that, but you gimme the power and I guarantee I'll find ways to use it. 👍

[celest sage]

120hz with bfi shouldn't be significantly more demanding than 60 without

it doesn't exactly take a gpu powerhouse to display a blank frame 60 times per second

I agree that you can make NES hard to run if you want to go crazy with super high res highly demanding shaders (megabezel at 4k basically requires an actual gaming pc)

[summer turret]

rg406H is 4:3, plastic shell + T820

Only .7 inch smaller but half the price

[formal nova]

wait we know of 447m price now?

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-dollars-haha-money-gif-16679435

[burnt comet]

The 477 has a 38% bigger screen, yes, 38% !

[burnt comet]

$299 , $30 off first 72 hours. That is the chinese prices

[silk arrow]

Mind dropping your source

[silk arrow]

1988 yuan isn't $299 USD

Closer to $279

[burnt comet]

There is not a single console in the world that has the same price outside china as inside china

This is the local chinese price , that chinese pay

If chinese pay $280 , we pay $300 ex shipping, ex taxes , ex tariffs

[vital kelp]

let's just wait for anbernic to release us prices

[burnt comet]

Well, if chinese pay $280

Make a guess…

I know the answer

[azure narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-3993442070749886928

[vital kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[silk arrow]

Okay well you should have specified that when you said "$299, that's the chinese price"

[burnt comet]

They do get $42 discount first 3 days, net they pay 1688 china which is $235 ex shipping, ex taxes, ex tariffs

Only first 72 hours

After that also back to $280 for them

This thing is gonna be as expensive as fuck. That is why they made it metal,

They will make a cheaper plastic one for $150 - $160 but first the rich impatient ones must bleed

[eternal nacelle]

Th picture of price is fake

[burnt comet]

This is the original source

[silk arrow]

Ah yes Facebook

Very reliable source

[opaque star]

Now the question is ... will they fix the D8300 issues for the 477 and leave the 557 swinging in the wind, or will this one just release as broken as the 557 is now. (I mean, I kinda hope that them working on this means that they'll actually fix the 557, but Anbernic gonna Anbernic)

[azure narwhal]

I dont think anbernic has the juice to fix anything and honesty sounds like needs optimization from driver/emulator side which for switch ps2 I dont see that happening

[mystic sable]

what issues are you referring to

[azure narwhal]

Poor emulation performance for a chip of its spec on paper

[opaque star]

That it runs either slower than a T820 or hotter than the sun with fan at full blast.

It actually looks like they have WuWa running on the 477 where it doesn't run on te 557, so ... some work might be going on?

Still have the same damned bugs that their other Android devices do where the controller settings (Nintendo/Xbox modes) don't persist.

[fiery hornet]

So where's the Photoshop guru who's mapped out the dimensions for this yet? Keen to know how pocketable it is 🤞

[burnt comet]

RG handheld group, the same one you are chatting in !

[silk arrow]

Right cuz we all know it’s illegal to lie on the internet

[burnt comet]

Wanna bet? I bet a $299 rg477 if i am correct

[silk arrow]

No not really

[burnt comet]

The guy who posted it, is working for Anbernic

[silk arrow]

Yeah my uncle works at Nintendo

[mystic sable]

can you tell him to pass a message to nintendo hq

that they are twats?

much appreciated

[ornate coyote]

What is the software issues with the 8300?

Drivers?

[copper juniper]

I cannot wait for the price to get revealed and everyone to complain about it 😄

[shadow ice]

I loved the 552 but the battery was sooo bad I’m afraid to buy a new expensive Anbernic now hehe

[vague grove]

we complain about it and will buy it afterwards 😈

[copper juniper]

oh man yeah 😦 battery life on that is utter garbage xD a lot of anbernics now have much better battery life

[compact osprey]

All horse power, no driver support at all

Snap dragon has Turnip Drivers to help smooth out alot of Graphical Glitches & the Emulators support them. Mali GPU don't get any Turnip drivers or any support like that

[formal nova]

so as someone who is hoping for Arc Successor with this SoC/screen .... does it mean anything for beetlesaturn/flycast? or those are fine

[livid cypress]

All good fun stuff

[spare grove]

and the cycle continues for the next device

[ornate coyote]

Right, so looking at a Geek 6 benchmark it looks really good, but not so much IRL

[compact osprey]

So for Beetle Saturn/Flycast, No Issues

Ps2/Wii/GC, Wii U: No Issues

Vita/Switch: Issues

[formal nova]

fine by me for 4:,

[compact osprey]

The d8300 is absolutely not a Slouch of a Chip. Its a power house, able to handle sssoooo much. But it just lacks those drivers 🤷

There is a Poco phone with the d8300 doing switch emu showcase. It's doing phenomenal

I just wasn't expecting this d8300 to still be costing as much as it is

[eager pelican]

they totally overprice it, the Poco X6 Pro was like 200bucks shipped and vatted with the 12/512 SKU before it kinda got replaced by the new X7 with the D8400 (same power as SD8g2), which still is like less than the rg477m will be

[compact osprey]

This is what I needed to hear

Sit back & wait for some sales & discounts

[eager pelican]

I mean, Anbernic won't get the same bulk discount as a big phone manufacturer, but the rg557 was at least $30 over what it should be MSRP IMO and as nice as the screen and metal shell on this may be, the high price might make it even impossible for me to purchase it on AliExpress as many sellers don't ship overly expensive devices to Germany or only do so without pre-collecting vat (which was already pushing the border with the t820 devices at MSRP via Anbernics own stores) ... which would be a hassle for me, so I don't buy those 😅

[opaque star]

Eh, it runs BL2 good enough - which is all the Vita I actually need.

[compact osprey]

It will run the Most optimized vita games for sure, but people will be upset when the rp5 (a cheaper device) gets more vita performance

[opaque star]

For PS2 it's decent on the RG557, but you HAVE to use high mode and you get ROG Ally- like battery life.

Given what we saw with the 557, this should definitely be a device you don't buy day one. It's gonna be expensive for what you get and there will likely be issues... And Anbernic stuff always ends up significantly discounted if you can wait a bit.

[valid gale]

Yea for sure for sure

Im gonna buy it day one

[opaque star]

Make the sacrifice for us all.

[compact osprey]

Imma wait for GammaNext to support it

[copper juniper]

Excellent, I like it when people are guinea pigs

[compact osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-nariukiyo-laughing-gif-23353786

[silk arrow]

I’ll definitely be buying

[burnt comet]

For $300 ex taxes ex shipping ex tariffs after 72 hours

[fierce yarrow]

Bad CPU governor which is fixable with 3c cpu manager

literally install one app and alter the scaling behavior once then live your best life

inb4 "I'm scared of tweaking and will just wait for gamma to fix it"

[somber violet]

Hey, Is there a way to switch the ps Vita's touch screen controls to physical for the vita emulator yet?

[topaz ermine]

I don't think you all realise, Anbernic has removed root from their latest firmwares

RG Slide with latest OTA has no root, likely the same with the 477M

No bootloader unlock means no root either, unless you want a brick.

So uhhh... Good luck.

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[tardy valve]

no chance of gnext then?

[compact osprey]

So the Slide & probably the 557m won't have GammaNext? Or do you have other Plans for those devices?

[topaz ermine]

Until there is a bootloader unlock, no CFW

[somber violet]

Wtf

[tardy valve]

welp, so much for endgame

[azure narwhal]

anbernic cant have a perfect device they wont allow it
each new device proves it more and more

[burnt comet]

This should be pinned. As a warning for everyone, no CFW possible!

[somber violet]

Think this is a sign to go back to the modded wii for awhile until anbernic gets their shit sorted out

[celest sage]

406v stays winning

[compact osprey]

Wii U, don't sleep on it

[mystic sable]

.....so no gamma?

this device dead to me

even though it has the screen and the correct dpad placement

[topaz ermine]

Never say never

I'm still excited, just need some time to figure out the bootloader unlock issue

If it's possible

[tardy valve]

real weird that they'd relock the bootloader via ota on the slide tho

[topaz ermine]

Bootloader unlock on t820 still works

[tardy valve]

that's fortunate, just strange, i could understand leaving it locked with this chipset, but the cat's out of the bag with the t820

[topaz ermine]

But the stock rom kills root, can still be added via magisk after the unlock. But I fear that the 477m will follow the same footsteps, no built in root and no way to unlock bootloader

But lets see

[tardy valve]

for sure, still hyped for this

[mystic sable]

i cannot wait to get this

[exotic quarry]

Because you cannot play WuWa on a rooted device, it is clear that Anbernic will cater to the larger audience who are more interested in playing mobile games than having root access

[mystic sable]

and never play any games on it

[tardy valve]

ahh, gotcha, yah that does make sense

[mystic sable]

does this have enough power to run wuwa

[exotic quarry]

Yes, but not at max settings

[mystic sable]

really?

my samsung s23 ultra

cries at it

and im not even max there

[exotic quarry]

You can see the performance of Wuwa running on the RG Slide here: https://youtu.be/UBRn53ryftU?t=525

It's pretty playable at medium to high settings

[opaque star]

For games like Borderlands 2 (and many of the games that came out after the PSTV did), you enable PSTV mode in the emulator and you get physical controls. Borderlands 2 does need to be updated to (I think) version 1.05 or higher to get PSTV controller support, though. (I use 1.09... which was the last official BL2 for Vita update)

[somber violet]

Definitely glad u said something because that's for sure the next project. Im almost positive its the same process to mod as the wii as it is for the wii u.

[sly shuttle]

I’ll be honest the Slide is started to look better and better the more I hear about the 447M have no root for CFW.
Slide is still overpriced IMO but should be cheaper relatively soon

Not for everyone of course but still pretty neat and definitely unique

[compact osprey]

Rg Slide = 379 Grams

DSI = 214 Grams

Just saying on that end as well

Dsi = 18.9 MM thick

Rg Slide = 26 MM thick

So the dsi is thinner as well

[pine bear]

but... he just said it right there that the slide also has no root

[sly shuttle]

Yup and I realize all that and the Slide is not for everyone but not being able to add CFW to the 447M really is the big thing for me

Thickness and weight I can deal with

[compact osprey]

The latest OTA removed bootloader from the Slide. So it also can't have CFW, Gamma has said that yesterday. Effectively ruining its chances of having a CFW as well. Anbernic is doing a great job of destroying its CFW support for future development or at least making it extremely difficult

[sly shuttle]

Did not know that so thanks for the heads up …..oh well

Will move onto something else

[compact osprey]

Yea, sorry to break that news. Anbernic needs to be held accountable for bad decisions

[copper juniper]

I can't imagine they care very much about what people think sadly, but agreed

[topaz ermine]

Slide will still get CFW. We have a bootloader unlock for it. The latest OTA removes root on the Slide.

The issue is more around the D8300 devices, there is no known bootloader unlock. And now they're removing root on top of this by the looks of it.

[celest sage]

root and bootloader unlock are two different things

(and if you can unlock the bootloader you can re-add root in gamma)

[burnt comet]

Haha, this company is living from bad decisions, that is their business model !

[topaz ermine]

Root grants you superuser access within the existing OS, but you still need to unlock the bootloader to disable its enforced signature checks and permit flashing of custom firmware.

[sly shuttle]

Well Im back onboard the Slide train

[devout estuary]

damn, maybe it's time to just go with the mini v2 and i dunno, glue down the sticks and shave off the grips myself haha.

[plucky abyss]

tbf the Slide is getting somewhat reasonably priced in China

[devout estuary]

or live with the 480 screen on the 405m forever

[plucky abyss]

I think I saw it being sold for like 170ish USD on Pingduoduo

not sure if those come with the OTA or not though

[devout estuary]

i'm not sure what the appeal of the slide is when the rp flip 2 would be about as thick, likely lighter, with a 5.5 inch oled screen

and what, 30-40 bucks more?

[sly shuttle]

Give it a few months and you'll be able to find it for even less

[plucky abyss]

aspect ratio

4:3 on a 4.7 inch screen is very good for some games

[devout estuary]

good point!

[compact osprey]

Yea, that is definitely my bad. Sorry 😞

[devout estuary]

which, is why i suppose i want the 477m to begin with yes haha

[plucky abyss]

I honestly really want one of the Slide/477M just because of how nice the screen is for NDS/3DS emulation lol

at least as far as single-screen devices go

[plucky abyss]

and yeah I'll probably pull the trigger if it drops to ~150

or less

[sly shuttle]

Its all good you just posted the info you had at the time

[fierce yarrow]

never update, never lose root. always have control of the system. hack the planet

[compact osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-ops-we-do-a-little-trolling-trolling-hacking-hack-gif-20964053

[opaque star]

Never update, become part of the botnet. 🙃

[plucky abyss]

when RH turns into Danzo

[waxen ingot]

Raaah super sp!!!!!

[shrewd arch]

Potatoes are roots

[burnt comet]

Lol, what are they thinking at anber ic? Silver with black with white on the pads with green, yellow, red , blue

Why didnt they just put ALL OF THE RAINBOW colors in there

[shut cedar]

Just swap em out

[burnt comet]

This is how a metal handheld should look, Anbernic:

[silk arrow]

I like it

[loud shuttle]

Ah yes, it should indeed look like the RG405M:

[loud shuttle]

Colorful buttons don’t belong on a metal handheld… oh wait.

[burnt comet]

Exactly!

[loud shuttle]

…Should I have had an /s instead of the “…oh wait”? Or would you have still ignored the sarcasm?

[eager pelican]

Bet you can just steal some from an cheap rgXX device and move on

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

[devout estuary]

yeah skittle buttons aren't my thing, would likely swap to black

[short quest]

I like it but wish they had more color options. That classic silver is a throwback to the original 350M imo.

I've bought 3 metal handhelds and gave them all away.

but for some reason I want this one lol

[silk arrow]

I’ll be getting the chocolate bronze one

[short quest]

If I do ... I will get that one as well.

I want it.. just not $250 hungry right now.

[compact osprey]

Be cool, support SakuraRetroMods & get those Sexy PSX buttons they make for every device 😉

Especially on a device that will be capable of decent ps3 emu

[tardy valve]

from jutleys, reliable source

[eager pelican]

ehhhh $50 difference is a lil excessive

especially with 256 storage

but given how this kinda caps out at PS2, due to drivers, it's neat that we get a lower priced variant

[tardy valve]

yah, dunno if the balls out model is worth it, maybe if you want really tiny/terrible switch.. winlator maybe? haven't had good luck with that either on mtk, hoyoverse games i guess?

[eager pelican]

I mean if you intend to do Android games on it... maybe

otherwise ehh, I have different stuff, 8+128 SKU is a lot more reasonable

[opaque star]

$290 is ... a hard sell to me. That's getting close to Odin 2 Portal territory and the Odin 2 Portal is better than this in pretty much every way. They must've realized that this was crazy expensive and came up with the cut down version.

Given how hot my RG557 gets, I can imagine that this metal one can double as a George Foreman grill.

[tardy valve]

eh, not remotely interested in <5.5" devices personally, this is a lot of power in a small package, battery life is my main concern tho, from what i've seen it's not great on the 557 & this will undoubtedly be smaller

[eager pelican]

doubt we will even see to many 12+256 models out there, nobody sane is going to pay that much extra for an device that can't utilize it

[eager pelican]

557s shit battery life is mostly due to their shit Android... bet Gamma could do easy 24hours game time on it, if he gets the bootloader unlocked

[tardy valve]

true, but that's an expensive gamble

[eager pelican]

will probably get around to buying this next year when the price gets more reasonable

technically this has to go below 150€ for me to be able to buy it on Ali... maybe ampown/geekbuying/gogamegeek will do a decent offer... I would be willing to pay like 180€, maybe 190€

[tardy valve]

I'm.. still gonna buy it day 1, just with a side-eye still near endgame level personally as-is, but hopefully gamma is able to work his magic at some point & really make it shine. Saw that there's a couple phones using the d8300 that seem to be popular, some discussions around unlocking bootloader, so hopefully something from that scene comes to fruition for us.

[formal nova]

i am kinda still hoiping by next year we will have Arc Pro version of this 😄

[eager pelican]

not really interested in getting a dedicated Saturn device tbh

Arc does Mega Drive just fine

[eager pelican]

I am literally using the Poco X6 Pro with a D8300 as my main phone currently

[formal nova]

i just want ultimate ega device with this screen

for bettlesaturn and DC too

Arc is great and but its so close yet so far from pefection

[eager pelican]

I think it's too fucking big

GKD Bubble is kinda more fun tbh

[formal nova]

i dont mind fuckin big 😄

gkd ubble is soethig i would neer consider though

overall not really into the memberberries formfactors

functio over nostalgia for me

[final isle]

They're doing different ram/storage configs now?

[eager pelican]

my biggest gripe with the bubble is the 3.5" screen, would it be 4" I would have no complaints

[eager pelican]

well at $290 I bet most people would just buy the Odin 2

[final isle]

Yeah $290 for a d8300 just doesn't make any sense

[eager pelican]

$240 is way more stomachable and given how this caps out at PS2 due to drivers 8/128 is good enough

[eager pelican]

$50 of that are the metal shell tbh

still kinda wild that it's just $10 less than their flagship device

totally expected $230 for the basic rg007 devices

[opaque star]

Can always wait for the plastic one.

[eager pelican]

yeah the rg405p was fire

[opaque star]

Looking more at the "6" series for inspiration here.

The RG505 was my favorite Anbernic of the "5" generation, though. The 405M (along with the RP3+ Metal) taught me to hate metal handhelds.

[tardy valve]

good thing i forwarded this, original post was deleted, guessing he broke embargo

cheeky today, was teasing that trimui will be announcing a new device soon too lol

[opaque star]

Embargo for Chinese pirate handhelds is so silly ...

[exotic skiff]

do I buy it.

I love the screen on the slide

[celest sage]

is the slide not good enough?

[silk arrow]

Yes

[final isle]

I mean unless you need some extra performance no