Anbernic RG Slide

[drifting birch]

Yep. Tons of researchers definitely got their funding pulled when the central government decided it was time to expand its territory

[minor tundra]

the flaw that led to the total meltdown at chernobyl has since been fixed in the remaining RBMK reactors, while any radiation release is obviously still bad, the RBMK is no longer any less safe than the average reactor fwiw

debatably the RBMK is so well studied at this point because of chernobyl it's almost a shame we don't make them anymore

[crystal vine]

slide game go beep boop

discuss

[hollow breach]

Never seen it before

[drifting birch]

Is it safe from politically motivated refusal to admit failures

[drifting birch]

Woah so crazy I want to play Gameboy

[rain wraith]

Is that the most side on pic we have had so far?

[minor tundra]

nowhere ever has been

[minor tundra]

I think so?

from the top down pics it looks vaguely 25mm-ish thick

[hollow breach]

Actually hold on, that actually looks relatively thin

[drifting birch]

Eh, if you're private you're funding your own thing regardless of who's in power and who they're killing (in theory)

[crystal vine]

clearly we need a geopolitics channel

[minor tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquita-banana-banana-chiquita-commercial-advertisement-gif-17523854

(private sector kills people too)

[drifting birch]

Of course

Obviously

[minor tundra]

but yeah we're way over the line (sorry)

I am confident I will personally be able to pocket the RG slide

[drifting birch]

But it's undeniable that there are some benefits

[minor tundra]

but that's based on me determining I'd pocket the 406v if I deleted the sticks

[crystal vine]

am i the only one who thinks the sticks on this thing look a bit uncomfortable with how they're placed

[minor tundra]

I'm actually more concerned about the dpad and abxy being too close to the edge

[hollow breach]

Even with the chunky grips on the back?

[crystal vine]

also i hope it isn't topheavy

[minor tundra]

they aren't that chunky - if I set the 406v and the 34xx on my desk next to each other the faces of the devices are within a couple mm of each other

not that the 34xx is svelte

[drifting birch]

Yeah it's very chunky too

[minor tundra]

but yeah I even CAN pocket the 406v currently its just the sticks catch really badly and I'm worried I'm putting too much pressure on the sticks when I step around

so I've actually been considering removing the sticks from my 406v

as my 'we have retroid pocket classic at home'

[rain wraith]

shape of the grips doesn't tend to be too detrimental to pocketing, but sticks are too prone to losing the caps if you aren't careful

[crystal vine]

anything bigger than the gba sp or rg slide and i'm bringing a backpack for my game system

i hope the steam deck 2 has a mini variant with around the performance of the first steam deck

[minor tundra]

but at the same time the 406v is like the only handheld other than the PS portal to actually get dualshock layout right so removing those sticks feels like a sin

[crystal vine]

that would be my dream

[drifting birch]

I think the grips are very detrimental on the rg406h, for example. Right?

[rain wraith]

not that bad as while deeper it is a single line, not a point

[drifting birch]

That would be amazing. But x86 chips are a b*tch

[hollow breach]

Yeah it just looks ridiculous in a pocket, a slip case makes it relatively easily to pocket but even then

[crystal vine]

they won't be on 2nm

efficiency gains will be solid

[minor tundra]

the slide shouldn't be any less pocketable than when I put my phone and an rgb30 in the same pocket as each other (same footprint as the rgb30 but thicker)

[rain wraith]

no, on 2nm they will be fucking expensive instead

[drifting birch]

Enough to run off of a small battery?

[minor tundra]

I'd even accept something n100 level performance but on a modern AMD base

like match the n100 on benchmarks but do it at like 5 watts

[drifting birch]

should be WAY better without sticks poking out

[crystal vine]

how small are we talking

[drifting birch]

Honestly my dream is something the size of a Trimui Smart Pro

[crystal vine]

i was thinking somewhere around the size of an rp5

[minor tundra]

I think that would be doable with a 4nm AMD n100 competitor but AMD doesn't seem interested in that segment

[crystal vine]

we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves

[drifting birch]

I was arguing that the RG Slide is the pocketable version of Anbernic's Android lineup, but now there's the 447m so

[crystal vine]

first we need a v2 of the tsp that can play psp acceptably well

[minor tundra]

(I mean the n100 is weak and inefficient because it's basically just E cores off of 3-4 gen old i3s)

[drifting birch]

Shouldn't be too hard if they actually wanted to

[minor tundra]

if the a527 takes off we might get that actually

[hollow breach]

And it's metal

Peak

[minor tundra]

add l3 and r3 while you're at it lol

[crystal vine]

the cpu on the a527 is still about the same speed as the rk3566, no?

it's mostly the gpu that's faster

[drifting birch]

For sure. Just better sticks in general

[crystal vine]

yeah that was my biggest gripe

[hollow breach]

If only more budget handhelds used the sticks magicx uses

[minor tundra]

not sure on this, but I know vulkan support is huge for PSP and the 3566 doesn't have it

[crystal vine]

i would probably have bought one by now otherwise, would have been a pretty attractive option for moonlight streaming

[minor tundra]

I would've bought the TSP if it had better portmaster compatibility but the weird powerVR gpu ruins that

[crystal vine]

i mean will we even get linux on any of these a527 handhelds?

[minor tundra]

the a527 has a more normal mali gpu so it should be a portmaster beast

[drifting birch]

It can run Stardew and UFO 50

[minor tundra]

I think the helegaly already has a (shitty) linux build

and powkiddy I think is aiming for linux on the rgb50

[drifting birch]

TSP has Vulkan support and it's not that much better

[crystal vine]

WHAT

[minor tundra]

it'll be BSP I think and not mainline but if the RGB50 gets muOS I'm gonna throw a pizza party

[crystal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-gif-14981788540580833784

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

i'm getting more and more whitepilled about the rgb50

[minor tundra]

but yeah I'd love to see a good 16:9 budget linux handheld that has enough of a spec bump to do 95%+ of psp no problem and have good portmaster compatibility

those two things are my only uses for a cheap pocket 16:9

[crystal vine]

are there any good candidates after the a527

for cheap devices

[minor tundra]

rk3568 maybe

new rockchip

but right now allwinner I think is providing a lot of OEM support that rockchip is not so that's why we're seeing the flood of cheap a133p devices and probably soon a flood of a527p

[crystal vine]

hmm

i'd be curious to see how the 3568 benchmarks

[drifting birch]

How much better is it?

[minor tundra]

I'm not sure in practice

by some accounts the a527 is good enough for 3ds alongside the new azahar optimizations (that have made 3ds easier to emulate than gamecube)

but it should be fairly nice for n64, dreamcast, and psp compared to 3566

[drifting birch]

That'd be crazy

[crystal vine]

idk if this is super accurate or not

[drifting birch]

funny that it's Powkiddy bringing it

[crystal vine]

still not good for ps2 though 😭

the day we finally get good ps2 at like $60 is the day i retire from this hobby

[minor tundra]

until we get a properly maintained FOSS ps2 emulator on arm I'd just forget about it tbh lol

budget gamecube might be doable in a couple years though

[crystal vine]

yeah the nethersx2 dev is going to start working full time on etherealsx2 once he puts out the last update of nether iirc

shouldn't be more than a few months

[minor tundra]

yeah should be great

I hope his ARM dynarec can make it into arm linux and apple silicon applications as well as an apk for android

[violet fog]

The last Nether Patch was already released in April tho lol

He already has started working on Ethereal lol. Trix hangs out in the Retroid Offical Server, only reason I know this lol

[woven gulch]

Btw, what do you guys think about fingerprint readers on Android handhelds?
(I really want this form factor to be an actual phone, doesnt even need to have a keyboard).

[rocky loom]

i dont put a lock screen on my handhelds so its not something i use in the first place

[ocean gate]

if you want fingerprint readers on your handhelds buy Ayaneo

[fervent lantern]

do u check ur bank acct on your retroid flip

[rocky loom]

i probably forgot my odin 2 has a fingerprint on the power button until you asked now

[rocky loom]

obv to order the next handheld from the current handheld

[lavish matrix]

Next make 5 inch screen from old Samsung with 1440p will be so sweet. Enable the phone capabilities as well for backup or secondary phone. Proper analog trigger

[icy fable]

Stacked triggers are great. But it's the one thing on the flip 2 that I'd say was less than pocket friendly

[crystal vine]

Someone was wrong in a reddit comment? Impossible

But yeah that's pretty sick

[violet fog]

https://github.com/Trixarian/NetherSX2-classic/releases/tag/2.0a

If he puts out anymore updates, that will be news to me. But he was talking about switching focus over to ethereal fully

[blazing bison]

I got the ick, buttons are loud AF
https://youtu.be/jsrJ-i3DMGw?si=eViYRBxEty3A0T8a

[icy fable]

Great. Can't unsee buckteeth face now

[minor tundra]

they don't seem loud from that video

do you have the volume cranked on your device?

they're quieter than whatever ambient ventillation noise is in the background lol

[icy fable]

The other problem is a lot of mics these days, including phone mice and whatnot, are unidirectional and setup to capture certain sounds like voices. Very few streamers/content creators have setups which capture true sound of stuff like this. And usually require some high end mics and dampening

[tough hearth]

sorry

it'll require some proper resources to setup a studio for it

maybe this but with a hole in the top

[mental agate]

Probably just a prototype thing. Anbernic is usually very good at keeping buttons quiet. Retroid is the one with the plap plap plap buttons

[queen ginkgo]

not the plap plap plap buttons

eggSadCat

[light oracle]

Better than the meow meow meow buttons

In all seriousness I hate how loud Retroids buttons are

[frigid pumice]

😳

Does anyone know if the Slide’s screen is taller or almost as tall as the Cube’s? If so, this thing might as well be a cube killer with it being wider and nearly just as tall.

[minor tundra]

Same height basically just wider

[frigid pumice]

that is SO COOL

[rocky sigil]

clack clack clack clack

but in fairness the buttons have gotten better with the RP Flip2 and classic

so there's hope

[minor tundra]

Yeah especially when you consider that given gameboy and NGPC were width constrained on the cube (by a little) not height so the only system that won’t benefit from the extra width is like… Tate Arcade

[frigid pumice]

yeah, I feel like this screen is actually just perfect.

Which is funny, because I thought the 405/6v/h/m screen was (and still is) a wonderfully large screen, but now we’re in the peak 4:3 era

Even 16:9 looked okay on that 4 inch screen, but at 4.7 inches everything will look great now.

here are size comparison photos i edited for people wanting better references

[flat pivot]

i think this is greatest advantage of the Slide. It has a bigger screen as devices with comparable size while also being more mobile / pocketable because it has a flat housing as sticks are hidden. It only gets bigger as other devices is when you slide it out, but you only do this when gaming so you hold it anyway. Also if it sits in a drawer it takes as much space as a device with smaller screen

[lavish matrix]

Symmetry of screen to bezel hurts my eyes on white

[minor tundra]

Yeah the black looks better imo but this being way more pocketable than even a de-sticked 406v while having an even bigger screen is huge

[flat pivot]

lol i was trying to say the same as you, but needed 4x more sentences 🙂

[woven sleet]

Flip 2 tho.

[lavish matrix]

There's something called "industrial design" they keep missing the mark

RP Flip 2 has bigger screen & well spaced stick button

In roughly similar footprint

If only retroid released 512GB & 12GB model I would have bought it

[woven sleet]

I don't have a flip 2 either.

But can't look at this and not think, fine, but how on earth is this better than just doing a clamshell?

But what do I know, I've never really moved on from the flip 1/ds/3ds clamshell combo I have

[vestal dirge]

If I can play Android games on this / watch media on this / etc. while it's closed, that's nice. Can't really do that on a clam. And if I want to game with controls, slide and play is really fast - assuming this will work pretty much like it does on a PSP Go.

[native panther]

you can adjust the fold of a clamshell up to watch stuff though

much easier than standing my phone up against a pillow or whatever

[nimble otter]

Wonder what the price point will be 🤔 and if this slide or the upcoming metal one will be more expensive.

[true goblet]

Most likely the metal one, if the chip part is correct.

[nimble otter]

Oh wow, they will be different chips? Good to know... Metal+newer chip def gonna be $$$ 😅

[vestal dirge]

We don't know the chip in the Slide, but a RG477M would have the Dimensity 8300 since that's Anbernic's "7" chip.

[frigid pumice]

I'd be fine with the T820, but a d8300 would be awesome

[minor tundra]

I'd love a t820 but d8300 would be a dealbreaker for me

[frigid pumice]

I could agree + could get down with that, D8300 might be absurd, but I don’t mind it that much.

[minor tundra]

I've basically decided I'm done dealing with relying on anbernic/retroid/ayn for OTAs

gammaOS is now a requirement for me to buy an android handheld

[frigid pumice]

understandable, yeah.

[vocal orbit]

seems to be a matter of bootloader being unlockable accorsing to gamma

[minor tundra]

yeah I also just don't need anything beefier than a t820 in a handheld

but overkill CPU/GPU isn't a dealbreaker if the battery life is good

[vocal orbit]

i think i would prefer 8300 for "my dream of 477Arc" ... just for beetlesaturn and ps2

as for Slide ... imo even t618 would be enough

[icy fable]

I'll buy it regardless as long as it's priced reasonably for what it has

[nimble otter]

The big 4:3 is so tempting. I'm also in the "as long as priced reasonably" camp. 💰

[frozen lintel]

you want less performance?

[heavy thicket]

We want decent power with great battery life gamma os and software that doesn't limit our experience

[frozen lintel]

no no no

we want over the top power with no input lag and 20min batt life

[scenic oar]

I wonder if playing with this thing will be actually comfortable

The sticks are in a strange position that I'm not used to

[frozen lintel]

if you enjoy psp go

then it should

[scenic oar]

Never played with one

A schoolmate had one
At elementary school lmao

[frozen lintel]

i actually hated mine

i wished i had my og phat psp

[minor tundra]

I want as good of a ps1 + crt geom battery life as possible and cfw

[vestal dirge]

I want a device powerful enough so that I do not care about changing the firmware out. 🙃

[hollow breach]

Only thing I'm worried about with the d8300 is I've heard there's some issues with Android games on the rg557

[heavy thicket]

And online android games apparently you can get ban

[vestal dirge]

Which games are causing trouble for the RG557?

[heavy thicket]

Apparently like online games like rocket league, fortnite, fall guys , pubg mobile anything that use anti cheat games

You can't play any Netflix games

I hear minecraft having problems

[vestal dirge]

If it is like the RG556, any game that checks for rooting will complain/fail because Anbernic's build is apparently rooted.

[heavy thicket]

Properly yh but cod mobile should work and others can install without being Google play certificated

I think some of them got bricked as well

[vestal dirge]

I just hope Anbernic realizes that they need to fix their shit this time. The RG556 sat for like a year with no updates and when they did update they didn't (as far as I can tell) fix the shit that was actually broken.

[frigid pumice]

THIS! I’ve been waiting for a Xperia Play 2 for years, and honestly I’ll take anything!

[heavy thicket]

That's why it's one of the reasons why this should get t820 because gamma os would probably fix the things it was the same thing with their t618 devices

Honestly anbernic is lucky that they are not ayaneo

[scenic oar]

I wish I knew how to revive my PSP :(

Maybe I should just buy a second hand PSP

[vestal dirge]

At least you can still buy replacement batteries and stuff for Ye Olde PSP systems. And (the common models of) PSP will actually run with no battery in a pinch.

[minor tundra]

I’m pretty sure this is t820

[thorn marsh]

1ks can't afaik... 2k+ can though

But all the cool mods are for 1ks

;_;

[vestal dirge]

I could have sworn the 1000s could run without battery. Hmm ...

[thorn marsh]

Yea part of the reason I use a 2k for dev is because I don't want the req of a spicy pillow

Lol

I'd love to switch entirely to a vita tv for dev but sadly I need PSPLink and that doesn't work on vita it seems

I can get it to partially work but only with specific things and I've had very little success with the projects I'd need it for...

[rocky loom]

so how long before we get the h700 xxlide next

[vestal dirge]

Heh ... this PSP-1000 has a memory card in it that is filled with calculator emulators.

[minor tundra]

I’ll take a smaller slider with a 16:9 as soon as anbernic moves on from h700 to a new budget chip that can do full psp on linux

[vestal dirge]

... but it IS running fine with no battery and only the AC adapter attached.

[hollow breach]

Yeah same

[vestal dirge]

Okay ... so the last time I used this particular PSP was 2011 (or possibly 2010). Wow. Let an Anbernic sit idle for ~15 years and see how well it will work. 🙃

[rocky leaf]

controls look nice but man the design of the screen portion is terribleee and all there showcases everything looks so slow lol

[thorn marsh]

Huh last time I tried it wouldn't turn on for me lol

But nice to know

[frigid pumice]

i feel like if this does happen, they'd use a 3:2 screen or something.. and with how big the current slide's is: 16:9 content would be smaller on that than how it is here on the slide

[minor tundra]

yeah I just want budget pocket 16:9 for psp and portmaster

portmaster means linux though

[icy fable]

Who knows. Maybe this will open a flood gate of sliders

[pliant dragon]

i love everything about the screen and pocket-ability, but that dpad is so close to the edge, i don’t see how it would be comfortable to play for a longer session

i wonder if it would have been better to orient the controls almost like the rp flip2, and have the dpad and buttons be closer to the center with the analogs on the outer edge

[white creek]

I wouldn't consider any of these pocketable devices made for long play sessions. 🤷🏻‍♂️ For me these are for pulling out and playing for a bit then putting away. The benefit of android sleep.

[icy fable]

Yeah if I'm playing for hours it's on something with good ergos, and probably too big to ever fit in a pocket

[minor tundra]

my hot take is if I'm playing for hours I don't want to be doing that on a handheld period

give me a tablet + a real gamepad

so I can have big screen without the weight of big screen in my hands

[vestal tundra]

i envy anyone who has hours to game 😦

[heady glen]

i have so many that i get bored and stop gaming

[vestal tundra]

a big collection does that, limit yourselves to 5-10 games on your device and no adding more unless you finish one, you'll have more motivation to play

if you like to collect games, use something like RomM and have that collection separate from your playing device, and only pull the game you want to play

[heady glen]

I just go and brainstorm my DND game lol it's fine

[icy fable]

Yeah. My day is taken up by offspring. Haha. Most of my gaming is waiting in doctors offices. Or at repair shops. Or for pickup. Lol

[woven gulch]

So i made an another color...(I cant stop).
Based on these two underrated(imo) psp colors: lilac(1st pic) and lavender(2nd pic):

[lavish matrix]

Very nice

Just for sake of ART can we do edge to edge like iPhone screen

[woven gulch]

Translucent lavender (this looks soo good):

[heavy thicket]

Them not doing colours on the device is bit nuts

[heavy thicket]

And it's always their high end devices

[icy fable]

Nutts but I get it

Whenever you have a product you're not sure will sell well you always pick the colors which almost always move the most units (black, white, gray, etc). It's the same with cars, laptops, etc

[heavy thicket]

Yh of course

[icy fable]

But it is a shame

Transparent would be wild

[heavy thicket]

I don't blame them it's their first time of doing the xperia play /psp clone and it's been over 15 years

[icy fable]

Yeah. Kinda untested waters

Was thinking about colors rp flip 2 came in. But they're had been demand for a while, flips weren't completely out of the blue, and they had numbers from flip 1 color sales to kinda gauge stuff

[heavy thicket]

I'm seeing this as if anbernic rg slide does well then obviously other companies would start doing more proper phone slide

[icy fable]

Yeah I think there's a good chance we'd see one or two more hit the market

I think Anbernic might release a third color as well if sales are high

[heavy thicket]

True true I'm thinking if it was t820 it could be on best buy

[icy fable]

If they found some normie outlet for sales it could be huge for numbers

[twilit geyser]

So is this gonna be using the 557 sticks lol

[icy fable]

Isn't Anbernic notorious for using like diff sticks in every device? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else

[twilit geyser]

You'd be kinda right

Cube, 406, and 557 all use different sticks

I was just thinking that the 557 sticks would be pretty perfect for the form factor

Since they're so small

[woven gulch]

I wonder if shellswap would be possible.

[heavy thicket]

Yes

[ocean gate]

still no data sheet for this?

[heavy thicket]

Properly next week

[ocean gate]

Anbernic being slow

next week we release this thing

[heavy thicket]

Slow rah compare to Retroid

It's only A full week

It's mostly 2 to 3 weeks to anbernic

Retroid 1 month to 2 months

[flat pivot]

In general 2025 was a bit slow with new releases...so people are "hungry" 🙂

[vocal orbit]

tbh i have my niches mostly fullflled 😄

so i am mostly looking for either worthy enough upgrades (OGA=>One35 , RGArc => imaginary"Arc477") or just fun weird things that i could slot

[woven gulch]

I mean, they are already doing 3 handhelds rn.

[rocky loom]

not before another leak first

[ocean gate]

we have our bases covered as well, but the addiction demands new handhelds

[vocal orbit]

handhelds must flow

also would probably grab dualscreen emuhandheld without thinking

[ocean gate]

we will see if that ever happens

[vocal orbit]

.. my 3 ds has been bit too iffy lately

[ocean gate]

but honestly we just need the next shiny toy

[vocal orbit]

and i am just tired of repairing it all the time

[ocean gate]

how broken can a 3ds be?

luckily I have 11, so I won't have any issues with that in the future

[vocal orbit]

this time it was the battery and left trigger button

[ocean gate]

yikes

[vocal orbit]

previous time it was the C- nub kinda desintegrating and home button working hald the times

[crystal spear]

That means you have 11 hinges and 22 screens

[ocean gate]

8 hinges and 19 screens, 2DS units don't have hinges and the two screens are actually one

[crystal spear]

didn’t mention any “2”ds earilier

Also you can make more hinges if you try

Just requires some extra effort

[ocean gate]

Slide is the easy answer, as the 477 will be $299+

they could have very well done this with the D1100 for $199

but nope

[fierce nova]

I like both. Just want to see what everyone thought. It's not that deep.

[ocean gate]

I mean if the 477 is indeed $199, that would be nice

but the extra power is kinda wasted on an screen that only does 2x

and WiiU/Switch/Winlator still struggle too much on Mali drivers to utilize the power the d8300 provides, while the 4:3 panel is not even ideal for Android games... so this will be $100 more expensive than it needs to be for no reason at all

ideally Anbernic should use something like the D1100 or D1200 for the rest of their 007 line-up

as that would stay below $200 while providing enough power to 2x the majority of GCN/PS2 games

[fierce nova]

If you don't like it don't buy. I will get this for lower end emulation and love it.

[ocean gate]

if you followed this thread, you would have seen the strong sentiment of most to rather get the t820 in the slide instead of paying $250+ for it with a chip that ain't useful

[fierce nova]

snes and psx will look amazing

I am not one to follow the mob.

[ocean gate]

the mob makes the sales numbers Anbernic needs

at $300 people rather grab the Odin 2

[fierce nova]

10 people will not affect anbernic

[ocean gate]

the 557 did anything but well already, more d8300 at the price point of $250 ain't the solution

[fierce nova]

For some.

[ocean gate]

nobody said you can't drop your money on it if you truly want it

but I already gave plenty of reasons why the combination ain't ideal and for the systems you mentioned a d1100 would already be way overkill, heck even a t820 would be

[fierce nova]

I got the 557 and like more than rp5 and flip2. But that is me. Buttons are a big deal to me. Power vs price not so much.

[ocean gate]

good for you then, I stuck with my Odin 2 Portal instead, which honestly falls in the same category of too big to be pocketable

[fierce nova]

travel is too long on the portal for me

[heavy thicket]

How do you feel about rg557 in general

[fierce nova]

Love it. Been using for Vita mostly right now. Guacamelee run great on it

Sticks are a little small. But accurate. Best feeling sticks to me outside x86.

I agree price vs power not the best. In 2020 I pay 400 dollars to have a handheld like this. Paid 220 shipped. Used

[ocean gate]

yet the US is not the rest of the world, the EU has barely an used retro handheld market (which often is only more expensive than buying new)

so we are stuck at 280-290€ for an rg557

while an Odin 2 runs for the same price

actually cheaper tbh

current exchange rate brings it closer to 270-280€ for the base Odin 2

[heavy thicket]

That's true it actually closes to odin 2 price

Anyway what about software wise what things you like about it and the things that they need to improve

[fierce nova]

Ok, you have odin 2 why are you in here then? Do you need some to say the odin 2 is better?

[thorn marsh]

Yes 👀

[ocean gate]

I have like 80 of these

[thorn marsh]

Jokes aside

[ocean gate]

and probably half are Anbernic

if they get it priced reasonably I'm all in for both Slide and 447m

[ruby spear]

You'll buy both eitherway though

[thorn marsh]

477m does interest me but I also know it'll probably be cost prohibitive and if it has the 8300 I'm gonna pass

[ocean gate]

don't say that, the Anbernic agents aren't supposed to know yet

[heavy thicket]

Who me

[ruby spear]

You always say that every new release now you have 80 of these

[fierce nova]

No. Just anyone who says get a odin 2. I say just get a steam deck then

[heavy thicket]

Get a steam deck brooooooo

Classic words

[ocean gate]

shuush

[fierce nova]

Like it adds nothing to the conversation.

[unborn storm]

The Steam Deck doesn't slide or flip

[ocean gate]

the other Jay was more on about the 447m tho

the Slide ain't confirmed to be d8300 yet

[ruby spear]

It would if I do this

https://tenor.com/view/rage-comics-table-flip-gif-25874129

[heavy thicket]

odin 2 is actually amazing device like price/performance and it's pure emulation device

[weak heron]

I WILL NEVER GET A STEAM DECK RAHHHHHHH

[heavy thicket]

That's fine

Everyone got different taste

Like @ocean gate I do agree that as much d8300 is good chip anbernic need to improve overall experience no point the power if you can't use it full potential

Look at rp4pro using d1100 even being worse than sd865 you doesn't feel it as much as you should because retroid optimized around the chip on their device

[ocean gate]

d1100 ain't worse, in some aspects even better than sd865, just shitty drivers

which gives the sd865 a huge edge on Dolphin based games and CEMU/"YUZU" and Winlator

[heavy thicket]

But ps2 only one or two games most of them are equal

Which it's impressive for retroid

[ocean gate]

some even work better on the d1100

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

[vestal dirge]

Fine, but have you considered the Legion Go?

[weak heron]

I have one

Ive been using it like a mini pc after getting this 3d printed vertical stand

[safe wave]

some grumpy people in here today 😄

[heavy thicket]

We can't never have peace without some heated discussion 🤭

[light oracle]

That’s every day

[weak heron]

Im grumpy everyday they dont tell us the chip

[ruby spear]

It's h700

[weak heron]

Id cry

But it cant be because they showed god of war

[heavy thicket]

It would be next week

Monday or Tuesday or Wed

[heavy thicket]

🤣

[vocal orbit]

whicjh one

[weak heron]

https://ebay.us/m/IRqHnK

Wish it was more solid but its cool

[fierce nova]

I think it is a t820 because no Wii U in the video. Someone else point that out. Edit: Was Ghetto Dono

[weak heron]

They also didnt advertise ps2 upscaling

[minor tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-guy-dancing-black-guy-gif-26630157

[light oracle]

Maybe they are waiting to reveal more in a actual launch video, I mean you can’t show everything from the get go and need to leave something on the table for people to keep interested

[tough hearth]

so you’re saying there’s a second screen reveal

[light oracle]

I’ll be honest if it’s a T820 , Im out , I already have a RG556 and try to avoid getting multiple devices with the same CPU

[light oracle]

Sure if you attach the Retroid DS screen

[heavy thicket]

🤭

[fierce nova]

Was it you?

[heavy thicket]

Yes

[fierce nova]

Fixed

[heavy thicket]

And also I feel like now anbernic ai on t820 devices now and comparison of rg406h and rg406v just screams t820 to me

[fierce nova]

Yeah they just did that Anbernic AI video on T820 handhelds

[safe wave]

i still dont know the use case for that 😄

[heavy thicket]

Apparently translator games that didn't got Eu/Na release

[safe wave]

ah

[fierce nova]

this is a good article on what it does https://retrohandhelds.gg/?s=anbernic+ai&et_pb_searchform_submit=et_search_proccess&et_pb_include_posts=yes&et_pb_include_pages=yes

[blazing bison]

your link didn't work, are you referring to this article? 'Trying the New Anbernic AI on the RG557'
https://retrohandhelds.gg/trying-the-new-anbernic-ai-on-the-rg557/

[fierce nova]

Yes. Sorry for the boken link.

[blazing bison]

"Despite the AI saying otherwise, a quick glimpse into the settings menu confirms that the Anbernic AI is connecting to a cloud backend of either Deepseek or Qwen (Alibaba model)."
I'm too paranoid about having network vulnerabilities so I never connect retro handhelds to my wifi network. All I do is load roms on the SD and that's it. No way am I going to have a device connected to Deepseek or Qwen at all times

It is incredibly cool and I commend its innovation. The auto text translation feature is especially useful

[light oracle]

Not everything needs AI

[minor tundra]

honestly security is a big reason why I only like android handhelds with gamma lite available for the most part

it's not like the amount of google integration on standard android builds is any less invasive

but de-googled lineage is the good stuff

the good news is that if this is t820 it should get gammaOS pretty quick

[fierce nova]

Oh I deleted the app on the 557. Just putting the info out there.

[light oracle]

Good to know you can and not baked into the system with the new update

[mental agate]

Not to get too off-topic, but anyone have a dumped APK yet? Want to try it on my Flip 2

[safe wraith]

Should have been clamshell

[unborn storm]

There are so many clamshells on the market right now.

Everyone is always copying Nintendo stuff, but no Sony

[safe wraith]

I just think the screen fits a clam better and it offers more protection

[icy fable]

Phew. Was worried a DS Retroid would derail my slide purchase

But fear not!

[icy fable]

I mean hopefully it's some level of smartphone quality. We put those screens in our pockets daily

[safe wraith]

My Butterfingers are the issue

[icy fable]

Hopefully some rubberized case will be possible. I too butter finger. But usually case saves my phone

All that said it again comes back to price. Close to $100 and I'll be chucking it across the room without a care

[safe wraith]

Throwing away a Benjamin 🤨

Excuse me I didn't know I was talking to daddy Warbucks

[icy fable]

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-duck-coins-gold-gif-6105586

[icy fable]

Seriously tho. My phone, or switch 2 for that matter, costs significantly more. I assume it'd likely survive about 50 throws before damage, and even then would just be a scratch. (I'm assuming carpet and couches. Not like concrete prison cells)

As an anecdotal aside, I've also dropped a flip 1 on a wood floor and has the casing crack, so it's not like clams are necessarily going to prevent butter attacks

[safe wraith]

Oh damn

Well in that case I could be convinced if it's more comfortable then the flip

[icy fable]

Yeah. That's hard to say. Flip might beat it in that department. Personally I'm interested because the usable touchscreen and on screen keyboard

Could actually play android games without the awkwardness of reaching over controls for games that don't require them

[frigid pumice]

Nah, I’m beating Crit Level 1 KH2 on this thing.. 100%, I’ll get back to you when my hands are about to fall off.

[crystal spear]

Lessgoo kingdom heartsss

[eager arch]

Same
I move A LOT every week taking transport and while i could certainly play my retro games...i want to play the games i have on my steam deck, and i simply can't do so with how gigantic and heavy the thing is

[dense zenith]

unfortunately not really possible with the fan/battery pc handhelds require
You could get one of the 8 inch laptop devices GPD do, or buy one of the n100 netbooks and just play indie games

[shadow badge]

My favorite image of the Slide.

[tough mist]

https://youtu.be/PX1V9ji_rYo?si=KoX-nI-aQu0Moifn

[ocean gate]

still no data sheet?

[flat pivot]

makes me wonder why they have 2 embargo dates and don't reveal the CPU yet. maybe they also got a new snapdragon G2 chip?

[ocean gate]

that would be extremely nice if they have the G1 Gen2 as well, but I doubt there would be an embargo on it

[flat pivot]

i just remember Retroid revealed the CPU very late because they had an embargo from Snapdragon about that chip

[ocean gate]

yeah they did, but given how that thing wasn't announced at the time, it would be weird if there was an embargo on it again

[flat pivot]

mockup what the white RG Slide looks with 3DS overlay. Does Anbernic also have a black overlay for 3DS?

[heavy thicket]

Mmmmm

No cpu sheet

[heavy thicket]

But I swear G1 Gen2 can't do video output

[ocean gate]

fair enough, but I don't really use that on Anbernics anyway

but yeah G1 Gen2 is very unlikely

I don't really expect a Snapdragon SoC at all

at worst we will deal with d8300 prices....

at best it's t820

ideal would be a d1200 tho

[heavy thicket]

It could be patent for this so after this week they will release it

Or get some preview units

[tough hearth]

I think Jutleys got one

[heavy thicket]

Also I really feeling this is t820 or similar to that t820 performance but my one is t820

[heavy thicket]

Most solid

😏

Hehe

[safe wave]

ugh jutleys

[heavy thicket]

But next one deffo cpu sheet next week

After next week units baby

[hollow rapids]

Slide vs Cube

[timber fog]

wait is it really that thin?

[light oracle]

Thing is I don't think the T820 plays GOW that well ( could be wrong and we don't know settings ) but overall looks pretty slick

[timber fog]

that looks a good amount thinner than the flip 2

[heavy thicket]

Mostly 1x resolution It's plays fine

[misty meadow]

if this is the very least around the thickness of a 3d xl and a significant amount cheaper that the rg477m then I'm getting this

[heavy thicket]

Or 1.5 not 2x I know it would struggle 2x

[light oracle]

Never tried it myself but we'll see how this all plays out soon , they usually launch fairly quick once they put out showcase videos like that

[heavy thicket]

I knew this is pocketable but people would say oh it's too thick

It wouldn't fit the pocket

[timber fog]

yeah if this is somewhere between 405m and flip 2 thickness wise, i'm interested, kind of wrote this off initially thinking it would be much thicker

[misty meadow]

wait, important question, is the rg cube 18cm thick with or without the grips being accounted for?

[true goblet]

I mean, the Cube certainly isn't thin.

[light oracle]

Yeah no ergonomic grips make a big difference

[timber fog]

haha fair!

[heavy thicket]

Look at it it shouts pocketable it's just like a phone

[tough mist]

yeah that kinda annoyed me, wasted 30 seconds of my time skipping through this

[heavy thicket]

Next week it would be data sheet

[true goblet]

Only the midsection/screen thickness based on my XX. With my highly scientific ruler measuring, the grips are about 2.8 without the sticks.

[safe wave]

oh no 30 seconds

[misty meadow]

wow, so the rg slide might be like 26mm thick

[true goblet]

I should say I'm not sure both Cubes are identical on the grip thickness.

[lavish matrix]

It just bugs me that phones made getting thinner and cheaper, if only Xiaomi or someone else got into retro handheld. They could make these look like apple device sleek and perform excellent. As Xiaomi phone are still very cheap with high end processor. They make volume 100x then retroid or Anbernic

[misty meadow]

the 3ds xl is 22mm thick

so a 26mm thick rg slide is not completely off the table

but yeah

a lil chonky

[lavish matrix]

Retro handheld doesn't mean it should really feels like 1980***

[true goblet]

There's really only so much that can be done without entering spicy pillow design territory. Look at the 34xxSP and the Flip it cloned.

[woven gulch]

Look like apple device? Oh god no.

[ocean gate]

how thick is the part one holds? I hope it's like 1.8cm or even a bit chunkier

[heavy thicket]

👀

[minor tundra]

Why would you want the g1g2 over t820?

Barely more powerful cpu and much much weaker gpu

[heavy thicket]

It wouldn't be g1 gen2 anyway

[minor tundra]

Yeah I just feel like people are blinded by the word snapdragon like a shitty snapdragon is going to beat a good cpu from someone else

Just because they make the best Android CPUs (the flagship mainline snapdragons made on TSMC nodes) doesn’t make their low end offerings better

[heavy thicket]

Plus only chip you can get similar performance to t820 is snapdragon 6 gen 1 and the chip have issues when it comes to dolphin emulator

[hollow breach]

Starting to think it's not t820 or d8300

[lavish matrix]

Apple design best implementation of Industrial design hence timeless, also copied by 1000 other vendors. Only thing is " They Fckking screw up by their own controlling shit"

[heavy thicket]

I'm feeling it's t820 or similar to t820

[ocean gate]

because then this thing caps out at $140

[vestal dirge]

That latest YouTube video pretty much convinced me it's a T820. But they could still surprise me, I guess. And if it's aT820 it'll make me sad if for no other reason than it can't be used with a dock the way the PSP Go can.

[safe wave]

t820 im happy with

[lavish matrix]

Apple no Love/Hate, as i don't own any beside company provided macbook. Also based on picture, I can say this inbuilt storage/system was kind of good measure & use of mouse during 1984* was actually great. Apple SUCKS again only because of the "Control & some Stupid choices" but again their design are best, whether we like it or not.

[minor tundra]

I own a lot of apple products and they have pros and cons like anything else

I will say literally the only pros from windows are from it being the assumed default and therefore best supported by third parties - the OS itself is absolute trash

[lavish matrix]

Windows again is kind of best - no because of current situation but because of long term supported software eco-system of 25 years. Its only OS which can somewhat run old software without much issues. Same with games & framework.

But they completely screwed up Out of the Box experience now on windows 11

Going back to Apple design or good Industrial Design is necessary to make our Retro handheld modern

Retroid or AYN switch from boxy to last year's was great move

We need more logical choice on curves, Ergonomics, and eye fatigue angles to be taken care of

[thorn marsh]

i mean I'm still running software made from the 90s on Linux so....

And OOBE is the least of the problems with windows 11... It's one of them sure but there's a lot more wrong with it lol

[lavish matrix]

Its default install of windows is wrong, example you buy new laptop. It kind of crap filled with bloat. That meant Out of the box

[minor tundra]

in my experience linux is better at running old windows software than windows is.

[thorn marsh]

OOBE for me means fresh install of windows and you go through its whole installed routine

[minor tundra]

like try getting old win9x strategy games running on modern windows

can't be done

[thorn marsh]

Ironically yea... I've had better luck running legacy windows software through a wine bottle than on Windows itself lol

[lavish matrix]

Ya, mee too. Not my carpenter neighbor

[minor tundra]

but yeah I run all three major OSes regularly

[lavish matrix]

Ok no debate

[minor tundra]

they all have their place

windows is unfortunately your only option if you want to play modern online games

[lavish matrix]

Just appreciate good things of products or quality not the Brand Value or Brand Hate

[thorn marsh]

For me my transition happened around 10/11... Windows 7 I loved... Windows 8 while I hated metro was easily fixable.... Windows 10 I kept running into issues and starting switching more to Linux and Windows 11 finally put that nail in the coffin

[thorn marsh]

Yea I've run all 3 at one point too and can enjoy all 3 except windows has basically dropped to last and prefer to not deal with it lol

[lavish matrix]

Apple Design & Windows compatiblity are well known & prooven facts. Even though they both suck at lots of things they do now. But lets continue focus our retro handheld.

RG Slide should have been thinner & better with eronomics

[minor tundra]

I don't see how it could be both of those things

[lavish matrix]

Better optimized software

[thorn marsh]

Honestly if you are deep into the apple ecosystem it's kinda nice

[minor tundra]

if it's t820 we are gonna get gammaOS so it'll have the best firmware of any android handheld

[lavish matrix]

I am not designer, but when there is will there is way.

[thorn marsh]

Not to downplay gammas work but I feel like a lot of the problems are that Anbernic can't seem to do a good android image lol

Both retroid and ayns have been pretty solid over the years...

[icy fable]

Yeah. Willingness of customers to pay 2x as much

That thinness comes with a cost

[lavish matrix]

Recently thinking after buying dozens,

[fossil ledge]

They're both pretty bad tbh. When I still had my steam deck it had issues running a lot of older games that I have, no matter what proton version I tried. It made me have to go back to my windows machine.

[lavish matrix]

1 paid x2 is better than 10

[light oracle]

Not familiar with GammaOS what exactly does it do better than regular Android ?
Is it just a more streamlined OS with less bloat and do you still have access to google Play ?
Are there performance benefits?
Sorry for what might seem dumb questions but you seem to be hyping up Gamma and wondering what it does better

[icy fable]

Yeah. But average market doesn't buy dozens

We're the exception here not the rule

[heavy thicket]

It's mostly gamma os based from retroid itself but his own version

[thorn marsh]

Happen to have an example? I find that most of the time if it's an issue it could probably be played via lutris community scripts or alterations with proton tricks

[minor tundra]

better battery saver mode, more options for stick calibration and adjustment, proper remapping of function keys, debloated, you get to pick whether you want the 'full' gammaOS with google play store or if you want to do the 'lite version' with the google bloat gone too

better sleep

[heavy thicket]

Little bit performance boost but not like how t618 was

[thorn marsh]

Yea that's what I thought

Again mostly down to Anbernic not being able to make a good android image lol

[light oracle]

Sounds great , might just try it out if I decide to get a Slide . Last stupid question is it a direct install or do you need a PC?

[minor tundra]

for me gammaOS > ayn/retroid stock android > anbernic stock android

[thorn marsh]

or not wanting to considering it's a running theme

[heavy thicket]

Also apps like GeForce works on gamma os than anbernic stock os

[minor tundra]

you need a windows PC to run the unisoc bootloader unlock and flash tools

I think he intends to eventually publish linux/macOS toolchains too but currently it's windows only

[light oracle]

Thanks for the info

[thorn marsh]

Weird could have sworn I done it on Linux with my RP2+ for lineagos.

Also going to say it

Unisoc tools are so jank

[lavish matrix]

every now and then it turns out a debate

[minor tundra]

lineage might have those tools but gamma hasn't made a way to do it on linux with his firmware yet

[thorn marsh]

Nah you need to use unisoc tools

From like actual unisoc

[heavy thicket]

As long we don't use personal attacks each other we are fine we are basically family over here

[fossil ledge]

It was mostly older obscure japanese PC games. Many I tried didn't work properly. But I have already sold my Deck and basically given up on Linux PC gaming so I can't really tell you exactly what's wrong or try out any suggestions.

[lavish matrix]

Nice one🤠

[thorn marsh]

Unless you mean gamma wrote his own unisoc tools lol

In that case yea okay fair lol

[heavy thicket]

I don't blame you It's mostly those updates would break the proton on and off I can see how it's annoying it would been

[minor tundra]

I think the issue is the bootloader unlock

which in the gamma package is a BAT file

which I'm 99% certain I can't run on bazzite

[ebon cradle]

What’s new in the RG slide world

[heavy thicket]

It's thinner than people expect

[ebon cradle]

No way

[heavy thicket]

Yep

Which I been saying it would be pocketable handheld

I know my stuff

It would be how xperia play was

[ebon cradle]

Man this thing is gonna be so peak

[thorn marsh]

bat files run on linux just fine lol

its down to the if the tools can

i want to say i had to setup some udev rules or something to get the flash/bootloader tools to work

but its been a long time since ive done it and unisocs software is incredible jank

[lavish matrix]

D8300 vs T820 - 8300 is more energy efficient as long it can optimized scheduler with good Performance & Lite mode in Android. Better in heat control as well. Its all about software. Check smartphone with good optimized setup on D8300 all the complains will be gone

[thorn marsh]

i have zero faith in anbernic doing a good android image

its been a consistent pattern lol

[minor tundra]

yeah I'm pretty sure you COULD do it on linux, just the ezmode ready to roll gamma provided preconfigured tools are not currently set up to do it on linux

[thorn marsh]

ah fair

[minor tundra]

unless gamma can get the bootloader on the d8300 unlocked we aren't getting any of that

because we certainly aren't getting it from anbernic

[heavy thicket]

Exactly it's about optimized for the chip

But also d8300 having their full power than half of the power

[minor tundra]

if this slide is under $200 and gets gammaOS it might be my ideal device

[heavy thicket]

I think it would close to 200 but I really feel it's t820

[thorn marsh]

i just want a 16:9 linux based device thats powerful for full PSP library...

[minor tundra]

that would be nice for PSP + portmaster

some little PSP1000 clone with an a527 or something

[lavish matrix]

Can i bring topic of razor thin margins on these devices, as low volume with R&D time. example https://www.thelightphone.com/lightiii $500+ device --- & Retroid pocket classic ($130) have similar specs. Atleast screen & CPU

try making the same stuff in any other countries

[thorn marsh]

Yea it's just about all I want these days

That said my RP3+ still being the champ in that regard

just minus the linux part

[minor tundra]

you know, I'll probably be just fine playing PSP on the slide

despite it being 4:3 it's 4.3" for 16:9

[heavy thicket]

This is basically my xperia play clone dream

[lavish matrix]

$200 is being optimistic as CPU itself might be $60+ or so

[heavy thicket]

It's snapdragon 4 gen 2

G1 gen 2 is basically overclocked 4 gen 2

[woven gulch]

Have you seen Othermod on YT? He put the rpi cm4, and pi zero 2 into a psp1000.
So it cant really play psp, but still really interesting.

[heavy thicket]

Also 4 gen 2 performance is the same as G99 And snapdragon 720g

[vestal tundra]

snapdragon 720g in LG G6 is much worse than g99 poco M5, I have both

[minor tundra]

if this is t820 I can't see this being more than $20-$30 more than the 406v

you're paying like 10-15 for the slide mechanism and 10-15 for the screen upgrade

[heavy thicket]

Yep and 4 gen 2 beat them both in cpu

[minor tundra]

gpu is also important as soon as you move to 3d systems

[lavish matrix]

Mee too. just be option

[minor tundra]

the terrible gpu on the rp classic only is acceptable because a lot of people don't use shaders and it has no sticks for 3d systems

[lavish matrix]

gpu raw power is more x2 of 865, no driver level

[minor tundra]

on what chip?

I'm talking about the g1g2

[heavy thicket]

Yes

[lavish matrix]

ohh mix up, on mobile delay notification

[heavy thicket]

T820 is bit higher than g1 gen 2 when it comes to gpu side

If you think about it

T820 is like sd 845 performance

[minor tundra]

t820 is quite a bit better than g1gen2 on the gpu side

[heavy thicket]

Yes

[minor tundra]

g1gen2 can't use mid tier crt shaders even

only the ezmode ones

[heavy thicket]

You are right

[thorn marsh]

Yea I recall... And honestly if it wasn't for the fact that good PSP batteries are a pain and the only screen mods are for the 1k...and well any cool mods really

I'd probably make my ultimate PSP and daily that

I really wish there was screen mods for 2k/3k

Especially 3k

[heavy thicket]

That's why t820 can push resolution more than Retroid pocket classic

[thorn marsh]

Those models really need screen alternatives with their yellowing and "splotch" age issues

[lavish matrix]

We all know Anbernic will bring cheaper version with A527 something 3.4 screen PSP go sometime in future

[thorn marsh]

RG Slide Mini W

[lavish matrix]

My bet RG Slide XXX

[thorn marsh]

Wait now it's sounding like a magicx product

[lavish matrix]

Triple X makes everything cool

[thorn marsh]

It's kinda funny cause although I say I want a PSP alt... I'd basically only use an actual PSP because I need to test on real hardware

[icy fable]

Kinda shocked people thought it would be as thick or thicker than the cube

At that point I'd assume an x86. GPD Win mini levels of something

[heavy thicket]

Lmaoo

I was saying it would be pocketable it's look pocketable it's basically gaming phone

[ebon cradle]

That’s also a teenage engineering ass device so you know it’s marked up by at least 1000%

[woven gulch]

Maybe a 16:9 or 16:10 version could have this name 👀

[lavish matrix]

OnePlus Ace with latest 9400e with 12GB and 256GB cost $250 as well

[lavish matrix]

There is logic in some & some not

[minor tundra]

hey they made that KO groovebox thing that was surprisingly aggressively priced

[frigid pumice]

This was always something I wondered: why do people want a G1 G2? Not sure if anyone said it bluntly but I’ll just say it now: The T820 IS better than the G1 G2, even if the classic is better CPU wise, it’s only better SLIGHTLY and the GPU is many miles behind the T820’s

[steady gust]

Really wanted the white one but it kind of looks off to me anyone else?

[thorn marsh]

I'm sure SRM will make a PSX button set for it lol

[heavy thicket]

Idk why it's basically overclocked 4 gen 2

[marsh mural]

Imagine Anbernic created a Flip version of this device. Same screen and body except just flips. Would be banger.

[minor tundra]

they think snapdragon means kimchi drivers and nintendo switch emulation even if it's the weakest chip on earth

[icy fable]

On reason I think it might be snapdragon is because clearly they're making a push to get them into handhelds. Could be aggressively priced

[frigid pumice]

LOL this is literally me with the D1100 and 865, literally nothing I say will make them believe the D1100 is better in ANY way, people are ridiculous sometimes

[minor tundra]

I mean tbf those are very comparable chips and the sd865 IS one of the snapdragons that actually has open firmware/driver stuff (you can even run linux!)

like the only snapdragon chips worth talking about are sd865 and s8g2

[frigid pumice]

that is true, guess I wanted a bit of an excuse to bring up my experience with trying to make people understand that the D1100 has a slight edge in the cpu department

[icy fable]

Haha. Yeah. You may have picked the worst example. S865 has so much open source support. It's basically a wunderchip. Clock speeds mean nothing if the interface support isn't there

Take any g series chips and compare and youd have a better argument

[frigid pumice]

what do you mean by interface support?

Like frontends?

[icy fable]

Like drivers

Software support layers for the chipset

It's always been a dimensity problem

[frigid pumice]

The D8300 vs 865 is a good example on how stuff like that does matter, some PS2 games need more cpu power than they do adreno optimizations

[heavy thicket]

T820000

[icy fable]

Fuck yeah

T820

Let's goooo

[heavy thicket]

HEAR ME HEAR ME GOOD

[vestal dirge]

DOCKING IS FORBIDDEN

[heavy thicket]

I'm smart

Pope is smart

Since day one

PRAISE GOD

[vestal dirge]

I'm a bit relieved that I don't have to dip into the Legion Go 2 fund here.

[frigid pumice]

YEAHHHHHHHH T820

[icy fable]

Yo. This is a real banger

Between the soc and screen specs

[vestal dirge]

(Well, unless it's under $150. Then I might not be able to resist. But it won't be under $150, so ... )

[heavy thicket]

I'm happy Pope is happy gamma is happy

[icy fable]

128GB storage and 5000mah ain't bad either

[icy fable]

I fully expect around 200

[frigid pumice]

guys.. rp classic killer???

(half joke)

[heavy thicket]

I told people the min they show the gameplay and comparison of t820 devices I already knew

[nimble otter]

Ooo the specs are finally here!

[vestal dirge]

No one is going to have a shitfit about it bragging about a ROM downloader in the spec sheet? 🙃

[heavy thicket]

Hold on

👀

Oh well no rom Downloader just straight banger on this mf device

[icy fable]

It says it has one. Personally I just wipe all this shit anyway

[heavy thicket]

All I know is money money yeah yeah

[true goblet]

Now I'm curious if they can get to $150.

[heavy thicket]

150 180 money maker 50 rg slide in 5

[nimble otter]

Me too, dying to know the price here 😅

[heavy thicket]

@sterile bear we can put gamma os on here right?

[vestal dirge]

It's basically an RG406H with a bigger screen. The "normal" price on that is $167.99

[heavy thicket]

Amd 120hz

So it's could be 184

To 190

[vestal dirge]

The RG556 has a "normal" price of $184.99 ... it'll be a hard sell to cost more than the RG556. So somewhere between $167 and $185.

[icy fable]

Id expect around 200 heh

[heavy thicket]

I mean rg556 doesn't have 120hz, slide and silde and slide

[icy fable]

The screen and sliding mechanism guarantee it'll be higher than a rg556 imo

[heavy thicket]

Same

[icy fable]

This screen isn't used anywhere else right?

[heavy thicket]

Which it's fine because we can get discount baby

[heavy thicket]

Nope

Custom panel

[icy fable]

Yeah. So that'll be baked in

[vestal dirge]

It'll be cheap on sale soon ... it's Anbernic after all.

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

As long they don't go overboard

We are good

[hollow breach]

I'm betting like $160-170

[vestal dirge]

If the RG477M thing is real, the screen will be there too. Only with metal and the Dimensity.

... and it'll be in an RG477H and RG477V as well. Like Anbernic is going to one-and-done with this new screen ...

[hollow breach]

That rg477v is going to be ginormous

[vestal dirge]

People like huge.

[frigid pumice]

It shouldn’t be more than the 556, that wouldn’t make any sense.

[heavy thicket]

It's custom panel and 120hz

[hollow breach]

I could see it being around the same price as the rg556, unique form factor and custom panel

[heavy thicket]

Unless otherwise it would be 184 to 200

[frigid pumice]

so wait, then using that logic: would the 477m be more expensive than the 557?

[hollow breach]

Possibly yeah

It's also metal

[heavy thicket]

Properly yh

[frigid pumice]

[heavy thicket]

405m launched it was higher than rg505 price

[vestal dirge]

The 477M will have a high price because metal. Probably not WORTH a higher price unless you're metal-obsessed, but ...

[hollow breach]

Still not sure why they didn't include the specs in the video today but idk

Especially if they're going to release them on the same day

[true goblet]

Max wants you to check out his sick custom screen undistracted.

[nimble otter]

How long does it usually take anbernic to discount their new products?

[minor tundra]

My guess is $179

Maybe $185 with a launch discount down to $175

[lavish matrix]

Few of my PS2 isn't running 😕

[jagged stone]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-teases-the-rg-slide-and-i-cant-believe-it/

[jagged stone]

We'll keep the post updated with the latest

[jagged stone]

This seems about right

[lavish matrix]

Ai ai captain captain 🤠

[minor tundra]

This looks so good

[jagged stone]

Maybe $169 first 72 though? 🤔

[minor tundra]

Specs confirm it’s a bit bulkier than the 34xx but should slide in my pocket

[lavish matrix]

3 months later $149

[steady gust]

Hope the ergonomics dont suck

[lavish matrix]

380 Gram am i reading correct

Ayaneo Air 1S slim was 405 gram windows x86

[heavy thicket]

This is money maker

W that they need

Let me pull up one more time

Smart play Smart slide

RG SLIDE everyone

[rocky sigil]

this will be noticeable heavy for its size

this is the weight of the rg552, which already felt pretty heavy, in a denser, more compact form factor

[minor tundra]

Heavier than an Odin 2 mini, lighter than an Odin 2 regular or portal

[vestal dirge]

It actually weighs more than the RG556.

[minor tundra]

30% heavier than my 406v

[vestal dirge]

Heavier than original Odin.

[rocky sigil]

yeah I'm not too hot about that weight 😬 but we'll have to see

[vestal dirge]

Lighter than Razer Edge with controller. (416g)

[heavy thicket]

But

I can fit in my pockets

[vestal dirge]

Lighter than Steam Deck OLED. 🙃

Heavier than Pimax Portal (374g)

[last rose]

4.3cm? Isn’t that the same thickness as the Flip 2?

[weak heron]

Is it that or 2.6

[minor tundra]

2.6 is the thickness

[heavy thicket]

Well if it can fit inside my jackets and stuff

I'm happy guy

[minor tundra]

How thick is the flip 2 at its thickest point (the triggers)?

[heavy thicket]

I'm leaving with something

[safe wave]

yay specs

[minor tundra]

Seeing online that the flip 2 is a whipping 31mm thick at the shoulders

While this is 26 all the way across

Neither is exactly svelte

[heavy thicket]

140.5 x 163.78 x 24.4 mm | 300 g

[minor tundra]

Yeah that’s not measuring at the triggers

It’s 31mm

[heavy thicket]

31mm

Mmm

[minor tundra]

Same fuzzy math they use to claim the rp5 is slim by measuring at the screen lmao

[vestal dirge]

By that metric, this is thicker than a Legion Go S.

[weak heron]

Still wish it could run ps2 on the resolution of the screen

[vestal dirge]

(i.e. not counting the ergo bumps)

[minor tundra]

It definitely can for at least 90% of the library

[heavy thicket]

👀

90% equal not "full ps2 " cough cough

Cough cough nonsense

It's does the job

[minor tundra]

I’d wager there are less than a dozen games that won’t work at 1x with a couple easy tweaks and then a few dozen more than work at 1x but not 2x, everything else at 2x

[heavy thicket]

Basically that

[minor tundra]

And most of that first dozen are games that run like dog on anything but a gaming pc

Because the android ps2 emulator is out of date

[heavy thicket]

To be honest it's enough games that I can play on t820 than using chip like t618

[minor tundra]

I play ps2 on my laptop with a ps3 controller for the pressure sensitive buttons anyway

T820 gives me the overkill I need to run the accurate emus for ps1 with good crt shaders so I’m happy

960p isn’t crt royale territory but crt geom looks ok even at 720 with a few tweaks

[safe wave]

hardly anything can do full ps2 on android, the emulation just stopped a while back 😄 should be decent on this screen though

[heavy thicket]

Using 1x on this screen is enough for me

[minor tundra]

Yeah im also generally not an upscaling guy

Even on my laptop I do the accurate but 1x only software renderer and a crt shader

My goal is for it to look like playing a real ps2 on a real era appropriate tv, not look like a lazy steam port

[vestal dirge]

I should get this just because doing size comparisons is going to be amusing.

[safe wave]

i only upscale to the screen' resolution mosty

[heavy thicket]

Unless it's game I know it can confident do 2x I leave it at 1x

All I know it's does the job and does it well

[sterile bear]

https://tenor.com/view/shenron-dragon-ball-z-dragon-gif-18075990409620126949

[heavy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-14398336

[tough mist]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[steady gust]

[tough hearth]

it came from here I think

[graceful kiln]

Ah okay
Sorry didn't read all the messages

Do we know then if this is confirmed?

[tough hearth]

@jagged stone posted it so I assume he got the go ahead from his man in Anbernic

[tough mist]

that’s wild

[misty meadow]

ayy t820 who could have guessed?

by the way

what percentage of the gamecube library can the t820 play?

[tough hearth]

majority of it

not Rebel Strike

[vestal dirge]

At least with the Slide no one needs to do any performance tests. What with all of the data we have from all the other Anbernic handhelds that use this.

The one thing I'm curious about is whether the Slide will have the same charging issue as the other Anbernic T820s - which is that you can't charge and have video output at the same time. My suspicion is that it does ... but some reviewer should try it out to make sure.

[woven gulch]

3h charging? Thats a bit much aint gonna lie.

[vestal dirge]

Anbernic and fast charging usually don't play well together.

[ocean gate]

heck yeah, t820 is pretty much ideal for this

now it will be a somewhat reasonably priced lil handheld and not some $250 monstrosity

[tough hearth]

t820 doesn't have super fast charging

[woven gulch]

But "high fidelity stereo speakers" sounds good. We will see. Hope the headphone jack/dac(or how they call it inside the device) is not the cheapest.

[ocean gate]

you are charging these multiple times a day?

[torpid pelican]

380g tho god damn

[tough hearth]

usually all anbernic handhelds have good headphone jacks

[vestal dirge]

"high fidelity stereo speakers" is just marketing speak for "it has two speakers"

[torpid pelican]

just happy they're front firing

[heavy thicket]

It's only 380g

[vestal dirge]

Two of them together weigh more than my Legion Go S. 🙃

[turbid plinth]

It said 13kg for a pack of 20, which should come up to 650g, is that including packaging?

[torpid pelican]

wth ftn i was looking forward to reading your post 😔

[shadow sinew]

This wont be very pocketable

[heavy thicket]

Disagree

[vestal dirge]

People complained that the Odin 2 Mini was too heavy. Well ...

[torpid pelican]

i can pocket it personally but that weight is killing me

[heavy thicket]

Unless you wear tight jeans

[vestal dirge]

Should be pocketable ... if a bit thicc.

[heavy thicket]

No way

[shadow sinew]

Its ok if you think otherwise, but for me it will be just to heavy to keep in pockets

[tough hearth]

just saying, compared to ayaneo and retroid - t820 charging is slow

it's just good enough

[heavy thicket]

Not pocketable as 28xx or something like that but It's pocketable that I don't have to worry about triggers and sticks and put inside my jacket

[torpid pelican]

the battery life on their t820s were insane enough I didn't really think about it, but yeah it was pretty slow

[vestal dirge]

It'll be like putting an RG405M inside its case in your pocket.

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

Perfect example

And it's doesn't feel heavy for me

[steady gust]

Yeah put a screen protector on it and throw it in a bag or your pockets. No worries about scratching or the analog sticks

[torpid pelican]

the 405m is 260g even with the obnoxious metal shell 🥹

[steady gust]

I dont think the weight is a problem if it isnt top heavy

[heavy thicket]

Plus I don't like putting things inside my pockets when I'm going outside mostly it would be my jacket pockets or side bag

[vestal dirge]

The only real issue is the same one you'd have with a clamshell:

[heavy thicket]

Not because it can't fit my pockets but some people are getting brave of stealing

[ocean gate]

fair enough, but I'm honestly not too pressed for higher charging speeds, I generally also charge these with an USB A to C cable just because

[vestal dirge]

These at least can do C-to-C charging ... they just do it at ~11W.

[woven gulch]

But 3 hours is still a lot of charging time, especially in 2025...

[heavy thicket]

To be honest battery life over t820 is a lot

With gamma os full two-days

[ocean gate]

I wouldn't expect that with the bigger screen, but it will be certainly enough

[safe wave]

How big is the battery improvement with gamma on the t820?

[heavy thicket]

At least psp wise gamma manage to last full day and a half while testing on rg406h

But 120hz screen tho that's bit different

[safe wave]

Ooh

[heavy thicket]

But in 60hz one or two days of battery life

[ocean gate]

first of all the screen is bigger

so that alone will draw more power than on the 4" t820 we had so far

but Gamma doing his magic is probably still giving us very close to 24hours at least

[heavy thicket]

Yes this would be different on rg slide

[safe wave]

@heavy thicket when did he show that

[heavy thicket]

On his what do you call his firmware content on gamma os

Channel that's right

Before his release on gamma os on t820

On his rg406h

Btw before anyone get confused

[ruby spear]

don’t care about battery

I’m buying two

T820

[minor tundra]

This has a bigger screen and only about 90% the battery size of my 406v but I’m sure with gamma the battery will still be excellent

As long as I get 8hr ps1 I’m happy

[heavy thicket]

Good thing we change to 90hz or 60hz

[minor tundra]

Enough to last a full day of plane travel when I cross the continent to visit my family

[ruby spear]

Now I’m pissed

Why 4:3 anbernic

I want my psvita device

[vestal dirge]

Ayn's the one that made a PS Vita clone, not Anbernic.

[safe wave]

Should get that on any t820 tbh

[minor tundra]

yeah exactly

you can even get it on the best h700 (the 28xx)

[ruby spear]

PSVITA on a PSP GO!!!

[rocky sigil]

@jagged stone can you double check with your sources that the 379g weight isn't a mistake? this seems gargantuan for a device this size

[heavy thicket]

Well reddit seem be happy with the specs

[ocean gate]

don't worry, you can always put a bit of black electrical tape over the screen you don't need

[minor tundra]

that's the retroid way

[heavy thicket]

Bit surprised at retroid not making like a psp clone

I mean proper psp clone

[ocean gate]

rgSLIDEgo with a 16:9 panel coming right up

or Retroid makes a slide

[misty meadow]

retroid never actually makes real clones like anbernic

they always kinda do their own thing

if you really want a psp clone u might wanna wait until magix release their own psp clone

[heavy thicket]

Ermmm I mean I already my clone XPERIA PLAY BABY

Wooooooo

[misty meadow]

rg slide with 5.7 inch 16:9 amoled screen is endgame, no questions asked

[heavy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/ric-flair-woo-learn-to-love-it-love-gif-19110011

[misty meadow]

Honestly It's unbelievable but I think the xperia play is still one of the best ways to play gba. It's pretty much an ayaneo micro sp.

too bad for some games u may need to overclock

[heavy thicket]

Xperia play 🥹🥹

[icy fable]

Dude. Forreal? That's quite literally insane. Haha

I mean I mainly carry a Ayaneo Micro Classic for my small carry. So I'm Definitely biased

It has yet to snap my spine in half

[rocky sigil]

see the thing about weight is that it matters how it's distributed

[runic dust]

BMI or smth

[rocky sigil]

the same weight on a smaller, more compact device is going to feel worse due how densely distributed it is

this is the main reason I don't like metal handhelds, lots of weight concentrated in a small package

[minor tundra]

I disagree. You're almost never balancing the weight 100% evenly between your hands so holding closer to the center of gravity on a vertical for example is often more comfortable because there's less leverage against your grip compared to a wide handheld like a deck

obviously verticals are usually not more comfortable overall in spite of that due to a lack of grips on anything but the 405/406v

the 406v is honestly the biggest competition to this guy for me mostly because I already own one

[icy fable]

Yeah. Size has little to do with it. People like fidgets made out of tungsten. Hopefully it's just balanced well in the device

I've also never been fatigued by the micro classic like I have been with Odin 2 mini. But it's pretty comfy for a brick

[icy fable]

How comfortable it is will come down to how heavy the top is, and how the controls are with the shoulders. My guess is some peoples hands will like it and some won't

I'm so glad sticks are inset tho

[minor tundra]

its just a screen and speakers, battery and ventillation (and therefore cpu) looks like its all in the bottom

so I expect it won't be top heavy

[heavy thicket]

Bring the price and reviews

[icy fable]

Yeah. Most established companies by now don't make this mistake so I'm confident it'll feel nice

[frigid pumice]

16:9 on here is bigger than 16:9 on the psp go sooo.

Honestly I feel like 4:3 is this device’s strong suit, I love that it’s 4:3.

[heavy thicket]

Either way I'm happy

I'm extra happy it's t820

Not that happy because I want to see reviews 🤭

[frigid pumice]

Same, the T820 is still a high end chip for the handheld market despite what anyone says.

[heavy thicket]

But I'm loving it

[frigid pumice]

People need to stop acting like it’s mid tier when it isn’t.

[heavy thicket]

I remember when people thought d900 was better than t820 just to found out t820 performance was better than d900

[woven gulch]

It has a display output, so you can put a second screen to it like this :

[heavy thicket]

Even better than sd845

[frigid pumice]

that dual screen addon reminds me of something from someone in particular…

[woven gulch]

Sorry idk this. Just downloaded a dual screen SD picture, that looked good.

[frigid pumice]

just a guy who’s relatively known for his overpriced dual screen addon for handhelds

[icy fable]

As someone who will devour a bunch of retro games on this I'm glad it's not 16:9

[icy fable]

Someone needs to Photoshop one of these addon screens on top of slide screen

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

It's pretty good but let's not get ahead of ourselves

[frigid pumice]

exactly what i was talking about, people just misunderstand the market now i guess

[hollow breach]

It's higher end for anbernic, not for handhelds as a whole

[frigid pumice]

it depends on the TIERS within TIERS.

heres how i see it

low-range:

low-low tier: miyoo mini+ or that dumb datafrog sf2000 (whatever it was called)

mid-low tier: rk3326 devices or H700

high-low tier: rk3566 devices (353 series for example)

mid-range

low-mid tier: t310 (think the rp2+ if you remember that)

mid-mid tier: t618 (rp3+, 405v/m)

high-mid tier: helio g99 (ayaneo pocket micro, zpg unicorn)

high-range: things might get clamplicated

low-high tier: D900 < T820 < D1100 < D1200

mid-mid tier: SD865 < Odin 2

high-high tier: steam deck < pc handhelds or idk

that was old but yeah

[hollow breach]

I'm not including pc handhelds

[icy fable]

Your like missing a whole segment of arm chips too

[hollow breach]

Also sd865 is mid tier

[icy fable]

G3x G2, 8 elite, etc.

Those are high end chips

[heavy thicket]

Where is sd845

[frigid pumice]

first of all

im talking handhelds

second, this list was made a long time ago

just a reference ill fix it later or idk

[minor tundra]

those are all worse than the s8g2 for emulation though

[heavy thicket]

I mean ayn odin 1 did have sd845 btw

[minor tundra]

they're only better for android native games

[icy fable]

Oh for sure. That's just G series hangups tho

In general

But they're still higher end than the T820 😆

Like you're hitting switch emulation pretty easy