Anbernic RG Slide

[ebon cradle]

Nex late to the party as always

[chrome sapphire]

stupid real life always getting in the way ||I may need to step down||

[vestal dirge]

So thus is a 4:3-looking larger PSP Go? If it has the D8300 I am quite interested.

[shadow sinew]

this looks like an air intake

[minor tundra]

God if it’s t820 and 4.7” 4:3 I’m cooked chat

[shadow sinew]

Also I dont think the device is too thin

[violet fog]

D8300 for sure

[vestal tundra]

what do you think the thickness is with a fan and a heatsink?

I can understand blower style fan but not that kind of direct fan

[shadow sinew]

I believe this is the only moment from the video where maybe we can see how thick the device is, honestly it looks to be as thick as closed Flip 2

[heavy thicket]

D8300 or t820 or something closer to t820 would be fine

[weak heron]

D8300 or bust

[heavy thicket]

Deffo not bust

[minor tundra]

I’d rather have a more efficient chip like t820 that’s likely to get gammaOS

[hollow breach]

I really can't see why they'd use a t820 for this tbh, I think the d8300 is their new high end soc

[heavy thicket]

I need people to understand that anbernic goes over 200 plus it's never goes well

I mean d8300 is cool without using high performance mode it would be good enough

But But it would be expensive

I mean if it's 4'7 4:3

[ocean gate]

so you gonna buy this if it's like $269?

because most people won't

[weak heron]

Yes

[hollow breach]

Possibly, it depends

[heavy thicket]

Don't forget about the taxes

[weak heron]

Us warehouse

[ocean gate]

the air for Retro handhelds gets quite thin above $200

[hollow breach]

Though ideally it would be around $220

[heavy thicket]

Deffo not 220

If rg557 was 250 then this one would be higher

[hollow breach]

But regardless, it just makes more sense for anbernic to use the d8300 than go backwards, and more likely

[minor tundra]

D8300 would be strictly worse for me

I’m not gonna emulate switch on this, I’m not gonna go above 2x ps2/gc on a 960p screen

[ocean gate]

d8300 is far out of impulse buy territory, especially with Anbernic quality

[vestal tundra]

I think anbernic learned their lesson with the win600, they're not suitable for high-end

[minor tundra]

It would be a massive waste of money and battery and have no bootloader unlock

[heavy thicket]

Again I don't mind if it was d8300 2x is enough for ps2/gc

But But

[ocean gate]

technically their rg557 is also way to expensive

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

[ocean gate]

Poco X6 Pro is cheaper, fully vatted

[heavy thicket]

And it only 250

[hollow breach]

💀 I'm sure they have plenty of d8300 they need to use guys I don't think they're using the t820

[safe wave]

poco x6 pro doesnt have controller built in 😛 but yes

[ocean gate]

oh I'm pretty sure they will put the d8300 into this, their development cycle isn't two weeks after all

but as long as they can't do it for sub $200, this won't do to well

[heavy thicket]

I'm not saying that it's bad if they use d8300 hey more power to me but it's would be expensive that anbernic basically need to make it sure it's solid device

[heavy thicket]

Even 220 to 250 I would allow it

[weak heron]

I dont think theyd put masterpiece in the video title if it wasnt going to be on the higher range of their products

[minor tundra]

I’m saying the battery life will be bad 💀

[ocean gate]

still a t820 device for $169 would be a way easier sell than a $250 one...

especially as the d8300 can't do high end emulation, despite all the power it has

[heavy thicket]

Exactly it would be more better

[ocean gate]

and the screen won't do more than 2x anyway

[minor tundra]

CRT geom my beloved

[heavy thicket]

But it's good for ps2 and gc and they fixed most of the problems

[ocean gate]

it's way to close in price to the Odin 2 tho

[heavy thicket]

But again anbernic and 200+ doesn't go well with each other

[true goblet]

Is the D8300 all that hot anyway?

[hollow breach]

And a completely different form factor, the rg557 wasn't

[safe wave]

odin 2 isnt a slide though 😏

stll, would be a hard sell

[heavy thicket]

I mean this is better because it's different

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

[ocean gate]

if this ain't doubles as a phone, it's still a handheld

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/what-icecube-seriously-gif-5026775

[ocean gate]

also honestly limited in what it can do with the shoulders not being analog

[heavy thicket]

And if it's doesn't have like a cellular it could be like sticky one but I do feel like if it is d8300 they need to price it right

And make it sure it's solid device

[minor tundra]

Yeah I prefer digital triggers but that’s because I care way more about ps1 than ps2, which also makes me ill inclined to overpay for a less efficient cpu lol

[heavy thicket]

If it was t820 or something close to t820 like g99 it would be like not powerful but it does the job and cheaper

[dreamy pendant]

I am sure there will be several iterations of it in the next few months.They won't just use this on one sku

[minor tundra]

The name makes me doubt its d8300

[ocean gate]

I honestly hope the g99 gets utilized more in $99 devices

[minor tundra]

It would’ve been the 477sl if it were a mainline anbernic release

[ocean gate]

like the rg406CUBE?

[heavy thicket]

Even G99 is enough does the job

[hollow breach]

The rg cube?

[heavy thicket]

Again we said that on rg cube

[minor tundra]

The cube wasn’t a “40” anything because they already had a different 4” screen that gen. This feels more like the rg arc where they had already moved on to the xx5 t618

[ocean gate]

I mean, honestly, I hope this is still a t820 and we can grab it for $150 and are done with it

[heavy thicket]

They did fixed it and use it in h700 correct decision

[safe wave]

prob would be more than enough for most people's use case too

[ocean gate]

I don't give enough fucks about the PS2 library to have every Retro thingy run it

especially at the cost of $100 per device extra

[heavy thicket]

Exactly nearly gc and ps2 1x amazing battery life

Even psp is enough for me

[minor tundra]

Yeah the t820 already runs 95% of the library fine, I’m good for skip a few problem games on handhelds rather than try to insist on overpaying for my handheld to equal my gaming pc on ps2 (especially since there are zero properly maintained ps2 emulators for android atm)

[vestal tundra]

g99 and $99 is instant buy

[hollow breach]

Nah I hope it has the d8300, makes it one and done

[safe wave]

but it has to be 5x resolution ps2 or die

[fresh fossil]

The MagicX Touch One 35 will arrive one day. Might be the closest we WonderSwan fans get.

[minor tundra]

Have you looked at the battery life numbers for the 557?

Big downgrade from the 556 on that front

[hollow breach]

Probably wouldn't change my opinion

[minor tundra]

I doubt that’s a 75hz screen tho

Wonderswan, MS DOS, and arcade fans need VRR to come to retro handhelds asap lol

And pal exclusive rom enjoyers (Amiga 500 has some banger pal exclusives)

[fleet raven]

How big?

[heavy thicket]

Again it would be disappointed if you like power and stuff but if rg557 doesn't move people to buy having more powerful chip

It would be hard to sell

Look at rg556 vs rg557 sales

[hollow breach]

Yeah I mean that's not great, but for something I'm most likely not going to be using for super long play sessions it's fine

[heavy thicket]

Plus it's anbernic the name is enough

Anbernic does well when they do $100+ prices on their devices

And cheaper when they go on sales

[ocean gate]

it's not the issue of the chip being to powerful or anything, but the price being too high

at $200 people would grab the rg557 easily, at RP5 price there would already be a consideration between those two and at the price it sits at, people rather buy the Odin 2

[vestal tundra]

anbernic devices from resellers are like 10-20% cheaper than official store

H700 devices are being sold around $40 all the time

thank you early adopters

[ocean gate]

and honestly, there are simply way less of us lunatics out there that grab a $300-400 device than there are people who are in on some sub $200 handheld

[heavy thicket]

I mean I just say it would be hard to sell look at rg557 sales vs rg556 sales 🫠

[hollow breach]

Tbf at the time the rg556 was one of the few oled handhelds at that price

It was a different market

[crystal spear]

Good <time-of-day> gamers

Oh wait I landed somewhere else instead of #🕹│rh-general nvm

[hollow breach]

The rg557 was fighting an uphill battle when so many people already bought an rp5

[heavy thicket]

Yh but it's cheaper

[crystal spear]

Any specs reveal yet?

[ocean gate]

most likely same as rg557, so d8300 with 12gb RAM and $250+

[heavy thicket]

Yh and didn't launched well having performance issues

[crystal spear]

250$+ for a psp clone

[hollow breach]

$230-$240

[ocean gate]

ideally this is a $70 H700 device

[ocean gate]

you have some questionable optimism going on there

[hollow breach]

Rg557 is their flagship, making this more expensive seems odd

[heavy thicket]

But also rp5 having more advantages than rg557

[ocean gate]

this is never going to be cheaper than the rg557, due to the slide mechanism

[hollow breach]

People also said the flip 2 would be crazy expensive, ended up being only $10 more

[heavy thicket]

Yh but it's retroid tho

[ocean gate]

yeah, this being $10 more than the rg557 would still be $250+

[heavy thicket]

Not anbernic

[sour bluff]

Honestly, as long as it has a cross style dpad, I may be tempted to get this.

You know, assuming it does use the same SOC as the 557.

[ocean gate]

also we kinda speculated on the rg557 being $220-230... look where it landed

[heavy thicket]

Retroid always have that title for best price/performance price

[ocean gate]

hard to beat an $149 RP4pro yeah

[vestal tundra]

their shipping cost is kinda high

[heavy thicket]

Exactly

[heavy thicket]

True it depends on what countries

[ocean gate]

$16-28 depending on how valuable your order is with 4px to Europe

[heavy thicket]

But anbernic on their website their shipping cost is disgusting

[hollow breach]

It's like $25 minimum for me

[heavy thicket]

Anbernic on other stores like ail express is like butterfly

On their website

Btw

[ocean gate]

[vestal tundra]

you forget to collect discount code

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-grimace-gross-no-gif-8084888

[heavy thicket]

Even their discount code it would be sticky one

But If I goes to what geek and ali express I'm paying way less

[vestal tundra]

it's an option for people who do not like aliexpress

i'm pretty sure that website is intended for American

[heavy thicket]

I mean it's for everyone not just Americans

I can say same thing with ayn

[vestal tundra]

all I can say is SEA countries have their own platforms with better price and support than aliexpress

[scarlet chasm]

I hope they do a H700 version like the Cube :3

[heavy thicket]

Good question why people want h700 on a device like this

I get rg cube even I said h700 version was better version

But rg slide I don't see it

[ocean gate]

because this won't double as a phone anyway

so a weak SoC is honestly fine

I mean ideally this would have something like a g99 to give a solid middle ground and enough power for PSP, but between the d8300 for $250+ or an h700 for $70... my choice would be the later

[heavy thicket]

I rather take g99

[vestal tundra]

i'm using a g99 phone right now

[heavy thicket]

As long it's full psp

[scarlet chasm]

For me, I just like having a low power emu device for gb stuffs. Where I can just shut it off and know the battery isn’t gonna drain, I know this is probably abit too much just for gb but I LOVED my Xperia Play and PSP Go

[heavy thicket]

You know what it's not too bad

But me full psp I doesn't need too power device like this but full psp and I know this device would go all the way to the star

[scarlet chasm]

Yesh, I can see playing PSP on this being a great time!

[unborn storm]

You wanna play psp on a square-ish screen device?

[heavy thicket]

Even ps1 would be enough for people who loved xperia play go

[heavy thicket]

Why not

Devices like this

Hell yes

[unborn storm]

Ps1 make more sense for me

[scarlet chasm]

Absolutely! :3

[heavy thicket]

You know what it would be better

Classic andorid games

Games like N.O.V.A

Max payne

[unborn storm]

So the Psp minis? That might actually be great

[heavy thicket]

Yeppppo

Plus modern andorid games

[hollow breach]

I dont really understand why that's the criteria lol

[ocean gate]

a phone with a h700 would be extremely janky

[hollow breach]

There's plenty of pocketable h700 or similar power handhelds already, not so many that are higher end

[dreamy pendant]

More likely to be a cheaper chip than anbernic top end imo

[hollow breach]

Not really

[heavy thicket]

Disagree

[steady gust]

T618 would be dissapointing. Still hoping its atleast the t820 or something new

[arctic anchor]

I'd be fine with this being a T820 device if it's in the $150 and below range

I feel this would be a fantastic portable rpg machine with the slimness of the slide

[twilit geyser]

(It wouldn't be)

But the idea sounds lovely

[fierce nova]

current t820 anbenics are more that 150.

[crystal vine]

Wasn't the rp4 pro recently $150 lol

I would hope it's cheaper than 150 if it has the t820

[twilit geyser]

It has been half a year since the 406H

So maybe there'd be some hope

[crystal vine]

The 406H would be a lot cooler if it could run linux

[minor tundra]

my biased priority is that I want whatever chip will get me away from anbernic's crappy stock rom and onto the glorious light of gammaOS

[heavy thicket]

It would be fine

[icy fable]

I just don't want a weak soc because there's a billion weak soc devices

I mean I know the slide is novel. But for the love of God. Use sliders and gimme powa

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

[icy fable]

I guess if I wanted something psp powered I could just buy a psp

And if the controls are there for higher I'd like to take advantage

[remote chasm]

Or a vita!

[icy fable]

Now if they did an xx model in addition I'd be fine with it

But we're already going to be paying more for the slide action

Might as well give it a little oomph

(this is all just posturing, I'll likely buy it if it maxed at game boy)

[heavy thicket]

Like I said me I don't mind if it's d8300 t820 or G99 as long it's not t618

I'm around the way I'm leaving with something

[unborn storm]

T618 wouldn't be the worst if it's priced right. We need something in the $100 price range that runs Psp and below

Especially with GammaOs

[minor tundra]

tbf with a 4:3 screen, 4 face buttons, and digital triggers you debateably cap out at ps1.

Saturn or N64 = 6 face buttons
dreamcast/ps2/gc = analog triggers

psp = 16:9

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/soso-gif-18415516675238991064

Some of those are easily remedied by remapping, and I could still play 16:9 on this. I just need a good all rounder

[unborn storm]

Saturn works with 4 buttons, it isn't that bad especially if you aren't a huge Saturn fan.

N64 is playable and enjoyable with a second stick.

Analog triggers isn't a huge deal, you can work around that in settings

There's no excuse for the screen though

A psp go styled device without a psp screen is crazy

[heavy thicket]

When you put it like that

That's not bad at all

[icy fable]

I don't think there's anything that said this is a psp clone. Simply a sliding handheld. I don't want to tie it to specs or shape based just on the fact that the psp existed

[minor tundra]

yeah for me I want this to be a super deluxe ps1 machine lol

[heavy thicket]

I want this as psp machine that's all

Idc as long it's not h700

[hollow breach]

I want this as an everything machine 💯

[unborn storm]

Just think about it, if the chipset wasn't abandoned we could have gotten it in cheaper handhelds.

I just hope that Kinhank device does well because it might open the door up for that

[hollow breach]

Mostly everything at least

[icy fable]

Id play anything I can on it. Let's be real. A handheld with sliders that's actually pocketable would be a first

[minor tundra]

960p beeg 4:3 would be so good for ps1

[icy fable]

Well outside old official handhelds

[heavy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/i-never-thought-of-it-like-that-tracy-jordan-30rock-didnt-see-it-that-way-didnt-think-that-way-gif-19746764

But I feel like using t618 would piss people off at least t820 it's balance with performance and price

[hollow breach]

If this has the 4.7 inch 4:3 it's going to be so peak

[heavy thicket]

D8300 would powerful but expensive

[minor tundra]

yeah I just want beeg 4:3 in my pocket

[unborn storm]

Which is why I said I hope the Kinhank device does well. The T620 is newer and has more potential

[minor tundra]

hell with a 120hz screen it's not amazing for 70hz ms dos but it's a hell of a lot better than 60

[whole nebula]

I feel like the more I watch the video while also having the Flip 2 nearby, the more I agree

5-ish inch range screen - 4:3 ratio - maybe maxing out at PS2 or GC just to take full advantage of it as well

[scenic oar]

Need this

The Experia Play I never was able to get as a child

[last rose]

I actually wouldn’t mind for someone to make a horizontal clamshell the size of the DS Lite with an H700 in it. Would make playing DS a little bit better even without the second screen

[heavy thicket]

Mmm

D8300 would be ideal but t820 is also ideal if they want to be cheap

[scenic oar]

Imagine bringing this thing to work and someone asking you if it is a PSP Go

[tough mist]

If they wanted to be cheap 557 wouldnt exist

Go big or go home

[scenic oar]

Do you guys think this could be used as a every day phone?

Considering if it will come with Android

[queen ginkgo]

anbernic would have to worry about picking cellular bands that best fit their customers

[misty meadow]

no sim card slot

[scenic oar]

At & T?

[scenic oar]

Rip

[tough mist]

Nah, Chinese retro handheld and SIM cards don’t go well together

No security patches on miscellaneous hardware

I don’t know..

[icy fable]

To be fair, sim card for just LTE and wifi could get you pretty far depending on where you live

Probably the biggest hurdle would be 2fa over sms

[heavy thicket]

Not really like Jigg said unfortunately it's doesn't go well each other

[scenic oar]

Oh well

I guess I can use my regular phone as a hotspot

How much do you guys think it will cost?

I expect ~200

[icy fable]

Massive unknown. But yeah. Id say closer to $200 than $100

[scenic oar]

Hope at least the power compensates the price

[heavy thicket]

It's depends on the chip

Again d8300 = 200+

Closer to 260

[scenic oar]

If it is pricy just because of the new shape, pass

[heavy thicket]

T820 = 180 to 200

That's included the features that they are going to bring

If it's true it's 4'7 inch 4:3 120hz $$$

[ocean gate]

I would say with a T820 $160-180 is reasonable, but we gotta wait for a sale

[unborn storm]

Magicx's new device is close. Pretty much a 2ds but not as powerful

[icy fable]

Think that'll be a given some because of the novelty and some R&D

[wooden rock]

D8300 gang here.

[vestal dirge]

Look, if it doesn't have ULTIMATE POWER then what is the point?

[violet fog]

https://tenor.com/view/power-gif-19575316

Yea! Snapdragon 8 Elite! Let's go!!!!!!!!!

[ocean gate]

I ain't going to pay $269 for this

[violet fog]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-stars-rick-harrison-yeah-laughing-lmfao-gif-14776304349166046392

[crystal vine]

If it can't do my taxes and brush my teeth I don't want it

[hollow breach]

More for me 🤑

[violet fog]

Brush your teeth!?!??! Hot dang, how strong is that Rumble motor

[heavy thicket]

If it's d8300 Idm as long price is good and the device and software wise is good

[nocturne rivet]

as stupid as I think it would be for this....I would absolutely want it to have sim support. I would rock it as my main phone lol

[hollow breach]

That's not stupid at all (Pic unrelated)

[fervent lantern]

g1 gen 2

[hollow breach]

It is kind of odd anbernic hasn't done a partnership with qualcomm

[fervent lantern]

or even better, || h700 ||

[balmy ingot]

100 bucks for an h700, exactly what I wanted

[heavy thicket]

I'm glad my work is being appreciated 👏🏾

[heavy thicket]

Same

[chrome sapphire]

next person to post that pic gets muted sorry not sorry

[heavy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-speed-laughing-speed-smile-smile-laughing-gif-881768479687758661

[hollow breach]

Hmm

[heavy thicket]

Sorry for this cause 😮‍💨

[chrome sapphire]

but seriously, just stop spamming

[heavy thicket]

Okay Okay guys it's okay now I appreciate you guys of showing my masterpiece

But it's over no more

But thanks for all your support 🥹

[fervent lantern]

I expect to see that image when i enter this channel

[tough mist]

Damn I can’t send pictures anymore

[fierce nova]

https://tenor.com/view/sony-xperia1iv-xperia1iv-sony-xperia-1iv-gif-25697177

[sharp ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/just-when-i-thought-i-was-out-they-pull-me-back-in-michael-corleone-al-pacino-the-godfather-gif-19249100

[tough mist]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457681858063237130/1377785671007211601/image0.gif

[hollow breach]

There's a gif?

[tough mist]

I made it 2 minutes ago

[heavy thicket]

Not the gif🤣🤣🤣🤣🥹

[tough mist]

Jaydewitz inspired me

[violet fog]

Jigg always Jigging too close to the Sun

[tough mist]

I really don’t like that wording. I regret inviting the individual who came up with that to retroid‘s discord..

[violet fog]

I saw chris say it, thought he came up with it

[tough mist]

Atheon said it before him, and ath got it from Zale

[violet fog]

Ah! Zale...that explains more than it should

[fervent lantern]

jigged when you should have jagged

[jagged harbor]

alright now the plastic needs to be replaced with something better than that planned obsolescence, crude-oil-sweating, cancer-germinating, rubberized e-waste

[icy fable]

Er.... I'll keep it plastic and cheaper thank you

Especially coming from Anbernic

[prime relic]

I like that it's something fresh for ol Nic

[jagged harbor]

yeah keep it the RG plastic not that rubberized black stuff

[vestal tundra]

I wish some phone companies keep plastic phones though

glass phones are just so essy to break

[hollow breach]

Metal rg slide would go hard though ngl

[fierce nova]

No

[vestal tundra]

metal and glass may feel "premium" but really bad for durability and repair

[hollow breach]

Like as an option

[vestal tundra]

a plastic phone like in 2010s is much more durable than today's premium phones

[fierce nova]

I think it's too big for metal

[hollow breach]

I mean it'd be a bit heavy but I think it'd be fine

[fierce nova]

I have a boxey pixel metal GBA SP and its too heavy

[dry idol]

RG 509

(509 in roman is DIX)

[hardy fulcrum]

Other than being kind of neat, the slide form factor makes no sense to me if it doesn't double as a phone, ahaha.

Or, no, I guess if it runs Android it can double as just an Android games device.

Like, touch games.

[dry idol]

sliding handheld makes no sense to me if it's not the screen being hidden

[icy fable]

Yeah. I think that's the go-to reasoning

[vestal tundra]

IT"S JUST COOL!

[hardy fulcrum]

Yeah, the form factor is kind of silly to me, but if people want it I won't judge, ahaha.

[icy fable]

I mean I'd also talk on discord, or occasionally watch YouTube and stuff

Not having controls sticking out all the time probably means I'd use it for more stuff than just gaming

Like how much do I actually call or text people on my phone. Very little

[hardy fulcrum]

Clam shell does those while also offering desk/multi-angles.
Touch-centric phone games are the only definitive win for this form factor I think.

So watch it not be able to turn on unless it slides open first.

Feels like the kind of misstep that would happen, ahaha.

[icy fable]

Except I gotta open it up to do any of that. I can't just palm or grip it in one hand

Any candybar or vertical does that better

But yeah if you have to slide it out to do anything that'd be insanely dumb

Shit. Now that I think about it, just the initial setup would be easier using thumbs and on screen keyboard. Less awkward at least

[frozen lintel]

the existence of this device as made me hate all my other devices

[hardy fulcrum]

I guess it depends on use case.
If it's a short video or something I'd probably just pull out my phone.
Anything longer where I might be seated or something a clamshell makes more sense.

[hardy fulcrum]

So you already carry around a device ideal for Discord and occasional Youtube and stuff

Honestly, I'm just happy we're in the era of interesting/niche devices now.

[hardy wraith]

Mobile gameplay would be hella good since you have basically the whole touchscreen lol

[hardy fulcrum]

There's only so many slightly different candybar/vertical handhelds one can take, ahaha.

[hardy wraith]

and some bonus controller on the bottom

[hardy fulcrum]

I'm much happier debating pros/cons of significantly different form factors rather than just dpad above/below and sticks/no sticks.

And inline/stacked triggers.

[hardy wraith]

I think this is like a rg405m but a slider

Like 405m performance but on a slider

[hardy fulcrum]

My only real concern is I don't trust cheap screens enough for it to be bare and even with a protector I'd probably want a case for it.
Which for me personally just puts me back to "if I'm putting it in a case/bag anyway I can bring a better device"

Happy for all you slide folk though

[hardy wraith]

I think I prefer horizontal clamshell rather than vertical clamshell handhelds

Slide is pretty cool but most of the time it needs a case

[scenic oar]

This is going to sell like hot bread

Sliders are a nostalgia thing since the start of the 2000s

Maybe even the 90s

Hmm yes, 90s, with Nokia, then with Motorola

[nocturne rivet]

I was around in those days but I dunno if they wanna slap GSM in it and raise the costs of the device. when most ppl prob just want a psp go. and not an experia play lol

[hollow breach]

True, probably not likely, personally though I think I'd be even more likely to purchase it if they did

[scenic oar]

PPSSPP outside of Android works like shit tbh

[zealous trail]

Is this the rumored 4.7 4:3 or something else?

[hollow breach]

I sure hope so

[icy fable]

I don't always have it on me honestly around the house. Plus, it'd be nice to use one device for entertainment and the other for important shit. Maybe I wouldn't kill my phone battery daily 😆

[icy fable]

Think the key word is cheap. If it's cheap enough I don't really care about the occasional scratch. It's at least not a $900 flagship phone

[icy fable]

Yeah. Having it be a legit phone would be questionable. Some handhelds have come with LTE tho. Which would be cool. Voice over wifi. Messaging apps. Etc

[vestal tundra]

pretty sure certifications for those things are hard and not something anbernic is willing or even has the ability to do

[nocturne rivet]

yeah I know. I just think it would legit replace my phone if it was lol. but yeah they have especially been clamping down on certain chinese brands. and them adding any sim support would really open them up to more scrutiny.

[unborn storm]

It's pretty good in Windows like most things.

Unfortunately we don't have a pocketable Windows device yet.

[vestal tundra]

windows PDA devices had been on the market since the 90s

people just don't buy them

[unborn storm]

Are there ones with Windows 10 or 11? And can you emulate on it?

[vestal tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbkYvkgata0

yes, people just don't buy them enough

[unborn storm]

I didn't even know this type of stuff existed

[glad mason]

We have a potential release date yet?

[unborn storm]

I also just remembered that GPD exists.

They also have a Psvita style device. But they're expensive compared to the Linux and android devices

[vestal tundra]

still popular in asia

also ubuntu phones

at least now you can make your own ubuntu phone

a lot of work but it's a fun project

[unborn storm]

Nice

I wouldn't mind porting one of these cfws to phones.

We already have Es DE.

Imagine being able to just put Onionos, CrossMix, MuOS, Minui etc on a phone. Similar to the Snapdragon Rocknix build

[scenic oar]

I mean, on Linux handhelds

[unborn storm]

Yeah I know

[scenic oar]

In most of them they work like, awful

Or mid

If they have Vulkan

[unborn storm]

A lot of games work well, but most people wanna play more than jrpgs

[worldly spire]

If this is a 4.7" 4:3, it will give 4.3" in 16:9 which is the size of a PSP display : https://displaywars.com/4,7-inch-4x3-vs-4,3-inch-16x9

[hardy wraith]

oh thats kinda cool

basically the psp go

[shadow sinew]

I wonder if they will really use 4.7 screen on it, it would make it quite a bit bigger than PSP GO

but on the other hand probably will be more ergonomic

[steady gust]

Yeah the go is too small nowadays imo

[twilit geyser]

Even disregarding ergo, the Go is too small to have anything meaningfully powerful in it

[flat pivot]

also no modem chip and no 4G/5G antenna. People always assume a slot / connector alone brings the functionality.

when do you think will we get the specs revealed? isn't usually just some days between teaser and full announcement from Anbernic?

[icy fable]

For sure. But it's not like they couldn't add those as well. I mean, let me make it clear, that's not the case here. But would have been cool

[eternal ingot]

I’ve been scrolling forever, have we got confirmation of a 4:3 screen or is that a guess?

[icy fable]

Just guesses

[twilit geyser]

Yeah, until they show the screen actually turning on, we only have estimations

[tough hearth]

it’s crazy that 4.3” wide sounds small these days

[flat pivot]

if it got no special feature like big high-res screen or double screen im not interested. sliding mechanics alone is not interesting enough for me

[heavy thicket]

That's fine more power to me

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-that-aint-no-problem-no-problem-gif-12200597

[shadow sinew]

I wasn't interested but I'm getting curious about it, I still would prefer the clamshell probably, because we already know that Anbernic has some experience with hinge design but if this handheld will be good and there are no issues reported I might be interested.

[twilit geyser]

Even if it's functionally worse than a clamshell, I just find the slide function to be way cooler lol

[sour bluff]

I think it's a neat middle ground between clamshell and normal.

This is the first Anbernic device I've been curious about in quite a while.

[flat pivot]

im shocked that it is ANBERNIC that brings something innovative to the handheld market. usually they just copy others 🙂

credits to them for that

[fleet raven]

Soooo has there been any news news since that first teaser?

[weak heron]

Try ever

[fleet raven]

And then they are likes sikes, here's your 35xxH but with three sticks

[heavy thicket]

I'm not shocked

Like sure they don't have snapdragon or stuff but it's anbernic

Same company who made rg nano or rg arc

Hell rg35xxsp shows u that

[weak heron]

Lol “innovation”

[icy fable]

How good was their first ever clamshell tho? Id the 35xxsp was solid with the hinge out the gate, it at least shows they put in the engineering and testing to make it work. Might mean a slider is solid out the door too

[icy fable]

Def in this form factor. We've had other sliders, even if it's just screen over keyboard, etc.

[icy fable]

A lot of times stuff considered innovative is still just iterative. Sometimes it just means taking something others have done a shit job with and actually combining it into a package that just works.

[heavy thicket]

Plus how many times someone has copied gba

[willow cove]

Made a quick mockup for how the screen might look if it's a 16:9 or 16:10 panel, based on the faint width I could see of the screen in the video.

The 16:10 mockup is how 4:3 content would look on that screen

[shadow sinew]

Actually I think the first few batches had some hinge issues, I remember reading a lot of posts on Reddit about the cracked hinge

[heavy thicket]

Yes of course but it took long to someone to copy or bring sprit of psp go or xperia play

[heavy thicket]

I saw few not all

[icy fable]

Cause in many ways it's extra engineering that doesn't really add to gameplay. Complication without necessarily guaranteed sales

Turns out we were more addicted to nostalgia than expected

And yeah. I don't remember the 35xxsp having nearly as many hinge posts as the RP flip, miyoo flip, etc.

[karmic garden]

Man that would rule

[steady gust]

#1377225236789071882 message

This seems like the only info we got

[shadow sinew]

Not all indeed and probably much less than Miyoo Flips but still

[heavy thicket]

More time It was more how rg35xxsp would be on fire if you use a different charger than official charger

[shadow sinew]

I wont lie to you, 4.7" screen is the thing that actually got me excited about this handheld (and maybe to lesser extent a pocketability).

[fleet raven]

Damn, 4:3 sounds like a pretty weird choice for this

[sour bluff]

Hm yeah. You'd thing the PSP Go inspired device would use a PSP aspect ration.

[fleet raven]

Dunno, could be the case that a lot of PSP fans liked the platform more for PSX games than actual PSP titles

[shadow sinew]

Yes, but it was overblown, I think only a couple of units had this issue xD (probably just some bad batteries or sth). However even I noticed that it was getting super warm when playing even easy to run systems, at least on a silver variant. It was the first I felt so much heat on XX device.

(probably because there's not much space inside the shell)

[heavy thicket]

Mostly it was psx

[shadow sinew]

I think we will see many variants if Anbernic nailed the sliding mechanism 😉

[heavy thicket]

Yhh

[heavy thicket]

Basically yes

[sour bluff]

I think it'll likely get a XX variant, and then maybe another one if both then sell super well.

[heavy thicket]

I don't want to say make or break but it's basically like make or break

[hollow breach]

Yeah I think an rg slidexx is pretty likely

[shadow sinew]

they could do a small 16:9 with P65 for an awesome PSP emulation 😉

[heavy thicket]

Yhhh or something new chip on it that support linux

[sour bluff]

Honestly, a smallish 4:3 GCN/PS2 device is a pretty good niche, if it's using that 557 chip.

[shadow sinew]

it's not that smallish if it has 4.7" screen

[sour bluff]

True

[shadow sinew]

Not small but probably should still be pocketable

[fleet raven]

It seems that way for a lot of people, yeah

Personally I think PSP library was pretty awesome even before you add PSX, emulation and homebrew

And yeah, I think my ideal PSP device needs to have portmaster, my brain just instantly associates the platform with homebrew

[minor tundra]

I would rather have a psp1000 clone with a Linux chip and let this be a big high res 4:3 monster

[fleet raven]

Yeah, this can be whatever, but I'd love them to make a proper PSP device

[minor tundra]

I’m not sure what chip would do full psp while also having all the libraries you want for portmaster though. Maybe the new rockchip 3576 or whatever

[ocean gate]

SD865

[minor tundra]

Ok, you find someone willing to put that in a psp1000 clone and I’ll buy it

[fleet raven]

Are you referring to the 32 bit compatibility? Isn't that just a PowerVR drivers issue with A133P that no other allwinner stuff uses

(I know A527 isn't exactly enough for PSP but seems like the best we can get this year this side of Linux)

[heavy thicket]

It's crazy no one has create psp clone in this space

Only device that has come close and doesn't look psp is Retroid pocket 3+/4

[hollow breach]

Odin 2 mini is kind of close, more of a vita though

[shadow sinew]

Powkiddy used to do super bad PSP-looking devices

[ocean gate]

it's a shame that ain't 5.5" OLED with a full glass front like the RP5 tho

[hollow breach]

Wait that actually looks good

[fleet raven]

I just want a faster TSP honestly, doesn't have to be 1:1 PSP clone. I doubt anyone can pull that off

[minor tundra]

Does the a527 have 32 bit libraries?

[shadow sinew]

Maybe, but it was so much of an e-waste that you could feel the planet dying when looking at it

[minor tundra]

If the a527 can run all of portmaster it’s good enough for my psp purposes tbh

[ocean gate]

you played too much FF7 or something?

[minor tundra]

If a handful of ps2 ports don’t hit 60fps I can live with that

[fleet raven]

Don't know, I'm just not sure it's safe to rule out all allwinner stuff because of A133P

[shadow sinew]

Indeed, lol 😄

[fleet raven]

I mean H700's BSP doesn't drop 32 bit, right?

[shadow sinew]

Maaaan, Allwinner stuff is so dissapointing, they are just not able to do powerful chips

[minor tundra]

But yeah I need something 16:9 but flat and pocketable with portmaster to replace my old rgb10max3pro for shovel knight, owlboy, ufo 50

[fleet raven]

(maybe I just need to mod my PSP already lol)

[minor tundra]

Cave story etc

[shadow sinew]

I'm excited for Helegali and RGB50 but I am aware it will be only slightly more powerful than rk3566

[minor tundra]

So many indies are 16:9 only 😦

[shadow sinew]

I have two, PSP1000 with IPS screen installed and japanese red PSP3000 in perfect condition

[minor tundra]

I get they had to target the switch and pixel art games are a lot easier to make with a singular aspect ratio in mind

[shadow sinew]

I love them both

[steady gust]

I tried to use my psp more but I can't stand the screen and dpad anymore nowadays 😬

[fleet raven]

Yeah, same. But at least you can get a better screen these days

I'd love to reshell it too, but IIRC there are still no good aftermarket shells

[shadow sinew]

IPS is better but still super low res

[crystal spear]

Any ne—?

[ocean gate]

the battery is the biggest issue, played Star Ocean 2 on that damn thing a few years back and when the battery shit the bed and I lost 1.5hours which were mostly unskipable dialogue I was done with it

[tough mist]

Yeah they want it to replace 406H.

16:9 would also cannabalize the shit out of 557 sales which already can’t be that great

[heavy thicket]

Actually maybe 🤔

[tough mist]

PSP will look serviceable

[heavy thicket]

It would be fine

[minor tundra]

More importantly - 4x integer scaled neogeo with a crt shader

https://tenor.com/view/metal-slug-fat-game-metal-slug-metal-slug-x-gif-15814497

[willow cove]

oh damn, I didn't see that... yeah that's a weird display choice.

[west forge]

being 4,7 inches now i'm actually interested

[torpid isle]

That’s what she said?

https://tenor.com/view/appu-appu-rajosh-gif-21480132

[white creek]

Why would that be a weird display choice? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hollow breach]

Peak display

[minor tundra]

Bigger 4:3 area than my rp5 and fits in my pocket would be an insane win

[white creek]

Yeah, 4.7 4:3 I'm definitely interested in it. I also love weird new formfactors

[willow cove]

Weird for a slide handheld, especially one that's reminiscent of the PSP GO! or Xperia Play. I can't think of any sliding handheld that's ever had a 4:3 display.

[white creek]

There haven't even been that many sliding handhelds lol

[hollow breach]

All the more reason to be the first

[willow cove]

The only handheld sliding device I could find with a 4:3 display was this thing from sony

[minor tundra]

I think nostalgia aside most would agree they’d rather have a slider for ps1 and ps2 over psp

[willow cove]

I ain't mad to be clear

[minor tundra]

If we only get one

[willow cove]

Just thought it was an interesting choice from anbernic

[minor tundra]

I assume their target market for this is a little wider than ex-psp GO owners

[white creek]

If they used the flip 1 sliders I'd be so happy, and it would make this much thinner

[minor tundra]

Their latest gen sticks are pretty small too

But yeah I’d be fine with sliders

[white creek]

yeah, but sliders take much less depth

[minor tundra]

Maybe this is a nuclear level hot take but if the device is priced aggressively with a t618/g99/t820 I’d be fine with no sticks at all

I know that would ruin it entirely for the ps2/gamecube crowd though

[hollow breach]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-16239029448410908275

[minor tundra]

(If a lack of analog triggers didn’t already)

[heavy thicket]

I want it all

[heavy thicket]

Lmaoooooo

Man said more powerful not powerless

[minor tundra]

Ape escape fans in shambles

[icy fable]

https://tenor.com/view/dozens-of-us-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-arrested-development-arrested-development-dozens-gif-18162954729757007693

[icy fable]

The dream man. What I'm really hoping for. Recessed sticks will be so chonk, and no sticks such a missed opportunity

[heavy thicket]

Pls have sticks

Don't be a waste man have sticks

[icy fable]

Yeah. It'd be a bummer if it didnt

Might be the only case where I'd skip it. At that point I'd just throw a smaller lighter vertical in my pocket and call it a day

[hollow breach]

Wonder how long it's going to take for orders to open, I get the feeling we might be waiting longer than usual

[heavy thicket]

I would lock everything off if they do that hell you can copy Xperia play stick if you have to

[icy fable]

I dunno. But everyone has permission to ping the shit out of me when they do

[white creek]

Yup, retroid needs to let go of their sliders and let other companies use them. Retroid was dumb for doing it one time and never again. lol

This would actually be the perfect scenario to use them, better than the flip

[heavy thicket]

Actually it's not bad idea

[white creek]

Would be much slimmer, and most people aren't playing 5 hours at a time on small handhelds. Pocketability is more important, to me

[unborn storm]

Personally, I'd at least want full controls for Ps2. Rp2s level hardware at least

[hollow breach]

Rg slide with d8300, Rg slidexx with t618

[unborn storm]

XX is h700, it'd probably be the RG405slide

[hollow breach]

Rgslideyy?

[unborn storm]

What is yy?

Their T618 line is 05, T820 is 06, D8300 is 07

[minor tundra]

They could definitely do multiple SKUs of this with the only difference being t820 vs d8300

[hollow breach]

I made it up

[minor tundra]

I’d buy the t820 for gammaOS, battery life, and to save money

Others could buy the d8300

[shadow sinew]

Yeah, also with it being cheaper it won't feel so bad when the sliding mechanism will break

[heavy thicket]

You know what I would buy t820 version Over d8300 version as well

Idm either

[glad mason]

cant believe they didn't release this

[crude galleon]

Is a shame, the xperia play pro looks awesome

[minor tundra]

What if it had those touchpads instead of sticks/sliders

Like a steam deck or the right “stick” on the ayaneo dmg

[heavy thicket]

Oooooo

Now now

Sticky one

[minor tundra]

On one hand, probably less ideal for ps2 action games, on the other hand, if you can use it as a mouse my MS dos dreams will come true

They have to be doing something weird with the controls to not show them to us right away no?

[heavy thicket]

Even it would make sense of trying to recreate xperia play

But idk in modern times

Does it make sense

[minor tundra]

I’ll take one of each like the aya DMG and 6 face buttons pls

N64 deserves the love

[heavy thicket]

When I used it it actually like good when the controls was showing but not all games

[minor tundra]

Left slider, right trackpad

I’m manifesting

[heavy thicket]

Could be that

[minor tundra]

T820, 4:3, left slider, right trackpad, 6 face buttons

N64, dos, all the weird stuff

[heavy thicket]

But anbernic would have sticks on it anbernic is not too mad mad to do that

[minor tundra]

Or just do the win mini layout without the keyboard

Dunno if it’s wide enough to still do the trackpad in the middle

[ocean gate]

would be a pretty small trackpad probably

[minor tundra]

Give us the lenovo trackpoint

[hollow breach]

3ds c stick

[heavy thicket]

Mmmmm

[fierce nova]

Blackberry ball would be nice

[heavy thicket]

Blackberry 🥹

Ohhh I miss blackberry

[hoary ruin]

I'm having trouble understanding the benefit of the slide form factor

What benefit does it have over say a clamshell?

[heavy thicket]

Basically

It's cool

It's sexy

It's pocketable

Like a phone that you can call your wife and telling her that you love her

[ocean gate]

if it doubles as a phone
if not, it's just a novelty reminding them of the PSP go

[heavy thicket]

Media player mp3 player

And ermmm just psp go clone that we finally got

[hoary ruin]

haha

I can totally see sliding it open to txt

And then realizing there's no mobile network connection

[heavy thicket]

Dark times

[ocean gate]

we won't have a keyboard there anyway, so whatever

[hoary ruin]

My sliding phone never had a keyboard either. Just do that weird thing with the phone buttons to get the letters

[ocean gate]

atrocity

[hoary ruin]

lol

[ocean gate]

I wish phones had slide out keyboards once more

[hoary ruin]

They collect so much dust in the gap thats uncleanable

[steady gust]

They look like small sliders to me which would make sense

[flat pivot]

this box looks so fake. why print a box with a dummy render without screen? also Anbernic on the render, but not on the box, looks so cheap 😦

[ocean gate]

it's an AI generates image anyway

[steady gust]

Thats not the ai one. It looks the same as the teaser

[heavy thicket]

That's could be real one

Plus it look the same as the teaser device video

Only missing is the specs

I pray it's not t618

[hoary ruin]

Is it just me or do the buttons look really low

[steady gust]

Where else should they be?

[hoary ruin]

I'm just thinking about how your hands need to be positioned to use the dpad

For the analog I can see it working ok

Since thumbs can extend a bit more

[scenic oar]

Should I buy this or the Switch 2

[steady gust]

The device seems to be not that small and has rounded sides it should be ok not worse than other devices

[heavy thicket]

It's has bit low to work like psp go or xperia play

[cold crag]

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them skip sticks on this, while cramming sticks onto the 34XXSP. But looking at how thick it is in the teaser video, there is room for sticks.

[heavy thicket]

I rather have sticks

I will be piss off if they skip sticks

At least you can do is have those xperia play trackpad sticks

Or dmg trackpad

[cold crag]

I want a 3:2 device that is really slim. Either a clam, or a slider with low profile sticks. I'm getting a Flip 2 soon and I have a 35XXSP but something that was inbetween those that could do 4:3 and 16:9 well and be really pocketable would be my ideal.

Cause you look at the bottom half of the Flip 2 and you see that it could be smaller. and still have a not crazy cramped layout like the 34XXSP/Miyoo Flip.

[cold crag]

My very crude mockup of what a Flip 2 would look like with the 4.5" 3:2 screen from the Pocket Ace

If the Slide has a 4.5 or 4.7" screen, this might be the closest to what I was looking for.

[hoary ruin]

Yea I'd buy that

[cold crag]

You don't lose much screen size for 4:3, 16:9 takes the bigger hit. But still plenty playable I would think.

Game streaming at 4.3" might be kinda hard though. But still not as bad as it was on the Pocket Micro.

[heavy thicket]

It's not 3:2 btw

Would be shocked

But I'm confident it's 4:3

4'7 inch and sometimes it's enough satisfying your needs

But game streaming yh sticky one still

[cold crag]

LMAO, oh man, that doesn't help with figuring out the screen at all

The dual speaker slots on top and bottom are really making it feel like a phone.

I wonder if they are just taking the full front off an older phone.

Seems too stubby to be like a 5.1" 16:9 Galaxy S6 screen.

The stubbiness is definitely leading to more 4:3

[heavy thicket]

Yh it's 4:3

[cold crag]

It's giving Samsung Gravity Q vibes

[steady gust]

It looks like an old htc phone and thats why I love it 😅

[cold crag]

Yeah old HTC phones was probably what I was thinking of

[cold crag]

Here's what a 4:3 would look like on this thing.

[scenic oar]

What is that screen protector

Oh I see

(I scrolled up )

[cold crag]

3:2 would have BIG bezels so I think 4:3 is the far more likely candidate

Random theory crafting here.

Device is about 5.25-5.5 inches long by 3.25-3.5 inches tall.

Measured the the fingertip in pixels: 58 pixels, standard finger tip is around 1". Screen protector is 313 x 195 pixels. so this screen protector could be 5.39x3.36".

If those calculations are close to correct we could definitely get a 4.7, maybe even a 5 inch 4:3 screen.

Bigger screen than the RG40XX devices in a smaller footprint?

https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

[balmy ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-reaction-meme-funny-begging-crying-gif-11151243012681431164

[vestal dirge]

Thia NEEDS to be my pocketable PS2 machine.

[scenic oar]

It should be able to run God of War at max speed with default resolution

And Jak and Daxter

If not, then rip

[blazing bison]

high hopes 📈

[cold crag]

Been 48 hours, where's the news?

[balmy ingot]

only fake news unfortunately 😔💔

I'm betting money it's a rock chip or a Dimensity (unlikely) chip

or even better, h700

[cold crag]

If it's 5" will the h700 be a bit underpowered?

[balmy ingot]

very underpowered

[scenic oar]

PSP runs like ass

What's the point

If you enjoy PSP on the H700s, your standards are very low

[crystal spear]

Ye

No h700

[vestal tundra]

yes, please H700

[scenic oar]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-gonna-kick-your-fucking-ass-man-doug-proferssor-psychotic-daniel-pim-gif-17345877625181390131

[scenic oar]

Joking

[hardy wraith]

gow runs at like 30 fps max

it is SUPER underpowered

[scenic oar]

That's with everything disabled lmao

[hardy wraith]

yeah

it is not good for psp whatsoever

[hoary ruin]

blast from the past!

[cold crag]

I've really only been playing Lumines 2 on my 35XXSP. Honestly surprised how well it runs it. But it's basically just Tetris with prerendered videos playing in the background.

[unborn storm]

Persona(all of them) is something that runs on any device that ships with ppsspp

[cold crag]

I thought P3P might work well since the overworld was chopped down so much, but thought it might still lag in tartarus. Good to know.

[maiden ibex]

I'm hoping t820, that'd be good price to performance

[minor tundra]

and battery life and hopefully gamma next asap

[maiden ibex]

So true that gnext gamma looks awesome. tempted to put that on my 556 but I'm scared I won't be able to get my vita3k saves to load anymore. Haven't been able to transfer them successfully

I mean I have them backed up but on another device the saves won't load even after putting them in the right folders

Would have wiped my 556 for the gamma update that fixed the stick cardinal snapping otherwise

Anyway back on topic, I'd also happily take a d900 or d1100 on the slide. D8300 probably more than I'm willing to spend

Anbernic has never used a d900 or d1100 though

I saw how Gnext can fix PWM on the 556, that's super cool

[steady gust]

My bet is t820 or some new chip for 2025

[balmy ingot]

atleast ridge racer runs 🔥

[safe wave]

id be happy with t820

[uncut agate]

Wonder if they'll do a similar control set up to the psp go. Though the Slide looks massive so it could be an entirely different design

[twilit geyser]

Well we have the AI generated images to go off of that we saw before the reveal, I think

[glass echo]

I'm hoping it's atleast something that can support both

[woven gulch]

Havent seen anyone talk about this: these are stereo speakers on the front? Hope yes, and that they will sound really good.

[steady gust]

Pretty sure these are the speakers but what are the buttons? near them

[jagged harbor]

wait, the screen's a 4:3? or 1:1?

😂 wth

[heavy thicket]

4:3

[jagged harbor]

windows shutdown sound

[ocean gate]

I still say this is the LG Wing panel

[rocky sigil]

there was a rumor a while back saying Anbernic had a custom made 4.7" 4:3 screen ready to be slapped on a future high end device

that fits with the more recent "leak" from the qq admin saying this thing has a 4.7 4:3 display

I'm guessing it won't be OLED if it's a custom panel

[ocean gate]

maybe, but we will see

looks pretty square-ish to me as of now

[rocky sigil]

you could fit a 4:3 in there depending on the bezels, it's plausible

[ocean gate]

heck, you could fit a lot in there, so we will have to see, but it seems a bit short with those speakers left and right even for a 4:3 panel

[uncut agate]

Anbernic: proceeds to slap leftover 3:2 screens on slide due to the rg34 sp not selling well

[ebon cradle]

This is way bigger than the 34xx lol

[misty meadow]

honestly an rg34xx slide would go hard

basically the xperia play

if it was done right

although something like a 4 inch 1280x720 display would be much better imo

[uncut agate]

Go and xperia play are both 16:9 just like the og psp

[misty meadow]

(asuming it's not h700)

[misty meadow]

yeah but for emulation purposes the xperia play was only useful for gba and shorter aspect ratio systems

maybe wonderswan

only exception

[uncut agate]

I mostly do MD and snes in which it did look great a small screen do to the dense pixel density with a bit of stretch and zoom

Analogs and 3:2 would be just be plain weird though considering most games that have analog are 4:3

I would've been alot more interested in the rg34sp if it was out the the analogs in order to have close copy of the actual sp. Just kind of seems weird and pointless

[ebon cradle]

Not necessarily true

If it has a powerful chip then widescreen systems are a consideration

[dense basin]

4by3 is pretty accurate, and it is Anbernic's own panel yes

[steady gust]

4" or 4.7"?

[minor tundra]

nobody is gonna play ps3 on an a 2025 anbernic handheld lol

psp is unfortunately the odd one out, being 16:9 and actually easy to emulate

[heavy thicket]

👀

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318

[flat pivot]

come on guys no new leaks?

[fervent lantern]

it's h700 and 640x480

only charges with usb a to c

awful membrane dpad and face buttons that makes you glad celeste has built in cheats

[flat pivot]

thx, but this is nothing new, it is what Anbernic always does 🙂

[fervent lantern]

nobody tell him

[heavy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-cant-stop-laughing-gif-14341553

[scenic oar]

The Xperia Play capped at PS1 and some PSP through emulation right?

[misty meadow]

with overclocking sure

[uncut agate]

Egh I prefer true integer scaling with identical control schemes of particular devices

[crude galleon]

I wonder how will be the buttoms distribution

[nocturne rivet]

Windows phones were around for like 4-5 ish years? They were pretty nice. No apps tho bcz they were so late to the party and nobody bought them.

[unborn storm]

I thought it was a modified Windows similar to the Xbox

[rocky sigil]

d8300?

[glass echo]

It is

Windows phones have been around a long ass time

Iirc it was only 8 and 10 that were based on the more mainline NT kernel

Earlier versions were based on windows CE

[unborn storm]

I just wanted to know if you could run PCSX2 and not Nethersx2 on it

[rocky sigil]

nah the windows phones were ARM too

you couldn't just side load PC apps in there

[unborn storm]

That's what I meant by a small Windows device

[minor tundra]

I just hope the dpad is in a usable position

and they didn't put it somewhere dumb to prioritize the tiny sticks

[ebon cradle]

You remember where the PSPGO stick is? That’s where your dpad is gonna be

[minor tundra]

pls god no

dpad position is 100% more important than stick position on this guy

(really any guy that is pocket sized and doesn't have analog triggers and a powerful enough chip to play ps3)

the whole device is larger than a pso go and I doubt the dpad will be as large so they could 100% do dualshock layout here

[scenic oar]

I expect slider sticks without click

Or maybe they have, probably not?

[dense aspen]

I mean…the last time they made a pocketable Android handheld was the RG405M, which had its left Stick above the D-Pad.

[blazing bison]

The Slide probably plays GC & PS2 based upon the vent for fans + "Masterpiece" title
So the stick takes priority over dpad

Not to get into this timeless debate again, but this is the general consensus. If it's powerful enough for GC & PS2, sticks take priority

[hollow breach]

I hope that there's at least a slight inset for the sticks and they're not just in a straight line with the dpad

Kind of like what the mcon is doing

[minor tundra]

Yeah that’s what I want

Ps2 = dpad top

GameCube, og xbox, and Dreamcast are the only three 4:3 systems that are stick top and they are hopelessly outnumbered by dpad systems and all require analog triggers anyway

[hardy wraith]

Yeah this has to be dpad top considering this is a literal psp go clone

Well stick stop would be cool for ergonomics but this is "Masterpiece" title

This would probably be like a rg34xx, basically an evolved version of the original thing

basically charmeleon to charizard

[steady gust]

Pretty sure it will look like this

[misty meadow]

looks nice tbh

if more specs get revealed this might become the pocketable handheld of my choosing

this has a higher chance of releasing quicker than the rgb50

so we'll see

I'm mostly sure it's gonna have the 4.7 inch screen everyone's been talking about

[vestal tundra]

21st

[flat pivot]

so you think Anbernic will not reveal their full design until 21st ?

or maybe they will just sell it after that date?

[steady gust]

They already showed the sliding mechanism so I don't think so

[vestal tundra]

as anbernic has been trying to get into mainstream, I expect them to respect the patent a little

so no sale before that date

[heavy thicket]

Happy 15th anniversary 💖

[heavy thicket]

Properly after the date just in case

Just to be safe

[tacit knoll]

What I Don't really understand is how come no Chinese brand, à la red magic, have not release an slide phone in all this years after the Xperia play.

The slide form factor is just a cool novelty for a console, but is killer for a gaming phone. In reality there is probably no point in making a slider instead of a flip console, but it makes sense for a phone.

[heavy thicket]

Because again it's sony patent

You think red magic is going to ask sony

In fact let me speak Chinese for you

嘿伙计，我们可以使用你的 xperia play 东西吗？

Sony would told you to fuck off

[unborn storm]

Here's your debate, Ps2 controller designed for Ps2 games

[ebon cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[hollow breach]

Controller stick placement is a little different than handheld stick placement though

[unborn storm]

Do I have to pull up a picture of any Sony handheld?

This thing is literally mimicking a Psp go

[hollow breach]

Psp go isn't exactly the king of ergonomics

[unborn storm]

I guess, I had a regular psp growing up and I remember that being fine. Granted it wasn't really designed for twin stick games

[wicked helm]

doesn't the lower half look like that sliding mechanism of a young fellow that you pop on your phone and the mods here had as a guest in one of their streams?

[unborn storm]

The Mcon!

[wicked helm]

yeah, that one! I forgot the name

[unborn storm]

The first prototype used parts from a disassembled Psp go I believe

[south stone]

i think there was a lenovo qwerty slide phone in the very early android era. like, with chinese cmiit id registration and everything

[minor tundra]

I could live with this

[steady gust]

I prefer symmetrical designs so I quite like it looks almost too good for anbernic 😅

[icy fable]

Yeah. Looks solid

[hardy steeple]

man I just wish the shoulder buttons weren't inline 😅

[icy fable]

I'm so glad they are 😆

[rocky sigil]

if the bottom controls are sufficiently inset then it doesn't matter if it's dpad or stick top, the problem is most of these handhelds don't inset the bottom controls, and in that case it does make a difference what they place where

[icy fable]

Inset sticks work great on flat rectangles. When they're vertically aligned is when they suck

One of my biggest turn off of the flip 1s

[heavy thicket]

Actually as someone doesn't like inline shoulders this is fine on this device

[icy fable]

Yeah. I mean I prefer stacked, but for portability I want this to be as thin as possible

[crude galleon]

The device itself seems to be a bit chunky to fit in a pocket

[vestal tundra]

anyone remember the Bladepad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PsvbTn4wQ&t=53s

and the razer junglecat

https://youtu.be/qXBVox0X_HA?si=U1IQ5rXpwhMGmmJW&t=30

I think people like the idea of sliding, they're just not buying

same to many sliding phones over the years

and I guess the MCON would face the same fate

sliding is cool though, just not enough people buying it

[misty meadow]

mcon is literally peak pocketability

the only issue is the price

it is NOT worth it

[vestal tundra]

the bladepade did that in 2012

it went into production and the company folded in 6 months

[misty meadow]

you can literally buy an rp4pro for 150 dollars, why does mcon think they can compete with that? It just doesn't make sense unless u REALLY want to play games that require more juice in your pocket

if it was like 60 bucks I think it would be a game changer

but like this? I'm not sure it's gonna change anything

[vestal tundra]

many sliding controllers had come and gone in the last 15 years, I don't have high expectation for sliding stuff

as a concept, it's cool

as a product, I do hope the trend comes back

[ebon cradle]

My issue with the mcon is it isn’t low profile at all

[vestal tundra]

the mcon is no where near the pocketability of the bladepad or the razer junglecat

[fervent lantern]

My issue with the mcon is that it isn't a real released product that's being crowdfunded

[vestal tundra]

oh, that part I think it's succeeded

they got the money upfront

[fervent lantern]

the fund gathering succeeded

this isn't like ayaneo/ugreen doing "crowdfunding" where it's just a preorder

[vestal tundra]

the bladepad took a year to be on sale, then people already lost interest at that point, it failed

logitech had a sliding thing back in 2016 too with little interest during CES, it never goes into production

razer junglecat evolved into telescopic too

is there a successful sliding product?

[woven gulch]

The gpd win 4 doesnt count, right? Because only the keyboard "has sliding mechanism".

[vestal tundra]

I don't think you can count that

[hollow breach]

Feature Creep and its consequences

[vestal tundra]

also I highly doubt they can sell many of that, it's a niche product

that keyboard serves no purpose at all, the same position as onscreen keyboard and too small to use like a real keyboard

[woven gulch]

I wonder how many of them are sold overall, and each version too(2024, 2025, etc...).

[icy fable]

Would fit my jeans easy. It doesn't look that much crazier in width and height than large smartphones. Def will be thicker, but with inline triggers it might not be that much thicker

[vestal tundra]

I've seen the GPD 1 time in the wild, a technician used it to configure a supermarket POS machine. I asked and he said this thing is the only pocketable laptop with serial port

[icy fable]

For me it always comes down to 3 things.

First, anything that attaches is just one extra step, one that I have to remember to carry with me.

Second, anything that I have to charge in addition is one extra thing I have to remember to charge.

And three, modern smartphones die fast enough that I really don't want to cut my battery in half playing games on something that I need to basically survive at this point. I can carry around a battery pack, but then I'm basically carrying 2 devices anyway.

Add the price and yeah, I'm not sure why it's hyped like it is.

[hollow breach]

They unintentionally made the best portable controller for the razer edge

[misty meadow]

the razer junglecat?

[icy fable]

Yeah. I mean I def get that there's a market. And some people may be able to work it into their daily routine so that it's low impact. But mcon just seems like a lot of work for the price.

[icy fable]

Mechanically it counts. But it's def a different category of device. But like, it's a sliding mechanism that works

[hollow breach]

Did the sliding one ever make it to market? All I see on Google is the joycon like ones

[icy fable]

Theres that other handheld with sliding keyboard too

[vestal tundra]

yes, for like a short time in asia, never went west

and people now seem to like the PSP go, but it failed too

[crude galleon]

What could be an estimated price for the mcon that justify a buy?
100 or 120$

Or more

[hollow breach]

Anything over $100 and you're kind of losing me

I'd prefer $80 tbh

[vestal tundra]

max $40

same price as some premium controllers out there is quite fair

I but guess they went for high profit margin rather than high volume

knowing how niche the market is for that

[crude galleon]

And their main focus can be iphone, so some price up

[icy fable]

psp go kind of failed because the PS target audience was chasing performance, and instead of launching a bunch of sprite based games made for handhelds specifically, they just offered main console like titles at lower fidelity. Thankfully with modern power you can play some crazy stuff on something small

[vestal tundra]

my point since the beginning is, sliding stuff are cool but the chance of success is quite poor

[icy fable]

Yeah. I guess my counter is, it's not because of the slide aspect of that

People loved their sliding phones

It's almost always been a software/marketing issue

Good news here is we control the software, and rarely give a shit about marketing 😆

[woven gulch]

I think they just released it too late, and it was online-only.
And also, it might have been too small, pepole who would have bought it already had a psp, or might be the lack of wifi in their houshold. Also, they released it after the "2008 financial crisis", that might have played a role in it too.

[icy fable]

Yeah. There were a lot of contributing factors. The few people I know who could afford one never really complained about the slide, they loved it.

I couldn't afford one at that point 😆

[crude galleon]

Recently i found an old vodafone sliding phone and the feeling of open it and close it was so good

[icy fable]

Yeah, if done right it can feel so satisfying. Just gotta hope Anbernic puts in the effort

[dense aspen]

Yeah, and PS controllers always have the sticks at a 45 degree diagonal from the buttons. Unless there’s an offset, stick on top is absolutely better for controls that have no offset simply for the fact that having the D-Pad on top leads to the left stick being annoying if it sticks out.

[crude galleon]

I have faith on the mcon but the thing that could determine to buy it or not is the price

[icy fable]

PSP Go had Nintendo handhelds that also cost half the price to compete with, and the reg PSP. It was a saturated market at that point

[crude galleon]

The psp go was released before the street version?

[dense aspen]

This is not a PlayStation layout.

[vestal tundra]

it was discontinued before every other models

[compact dune]

I really hope this starts a trend of more sliding handhelds, i love it so much

[crude galleon]

An exact copy of the xperia play

But using the colors of the rumored play 2

Black and red fits so well together

[shadow sinew]

its shame they didnt release a follow up to original Xperia Play, but I think it would be better with two sliders instead of touchpads

[heavy thicket]

You need to remember that retro handhelds is niche market not mobile gaming

Also Matt who is early 20s been working on this past 3 years and he finally got the backing that he needed since day one

Is it overpriced kinda yes but it's good thing because you don't worry about whole device being breaking off the silde

It's unfortunate that anbernic would probably take it over if they do it right and the specs is decent enough

[minor tundra]

?????

[dense aspen]

That’s the one and only time they’ve ever done a handheld with dual stick controls, and not only did it not have L2/R2 but it outright needed to make its sticks that small just to avoid the sticks getting in the way of the buttons.

Would you rather I say “only the RG557 sticks might work with an inset layout”?

[minor tundra]

sony has never put stick on top on any gamepad, handheld, or any other device

[dense aspen]

Those are the exact same offset as their actual controllers.

Hell, I’d bet using the sticks outright felt a lot better on the Portal than the PS Vita, and the Vita was literally how I played and beat some of my favorite PS1 and PSP games.

[minor tundra]

literally no matter how beefy of a chip they put in this 95% of the games I play on it will use the dpad more than the left stick

[hollow breach]

Well I mean we already knew that

[fervent lantern]

dpad on top allows the forbidden claw grip

[ebon cradle]

[fervent lantern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSP/comments/1gyl5fp/clawgrip_team/

[ebon cradle]

Claw grip isn’t really a product of dpad on top. It’s more so a product of no right stick

[fervent lantern]

🦀🦀🦀

[ebon cradle]

Claw was big on 3DS too

[minor tundra]

yeah for those psp games just use the right stick as slider instead of left

[fervent lantern]

bring back tradition

[dense aspen]

Yeah, same here, and I’d rather the stick be on top if the sticks stick out too much and are completely inset. It’s the exact thing that made me have issues with the RP5, even if I liked it.

That’s completely unrelated to the topic at hand of course, since I imagine whatever they’re gonna be using on here will absolutely not be sticking out due to the sliding screen.

[ebon cradle]

Most famously in the MH series of games

[fervent lantern]

I actually owned a psp go but i can't exactly recall any issues I had w it

[dense aspen]

Yeah, hence why I was only arguing against people calling the control layout most of these handhelds use “PlayStation-layout”.

[ebon cradle]

Tiny ass stick

If you could even call it that

Nipple

[dense aspen]

Literally wasn’t even a stick, it was outright a slider/circle pad.

[ebon cradle]

Worse than 3DS c stick

[ebon cradle]

Semantics

[dense aspen]

Except it was the smallest analog slider you could possibly get.

[fervent lantern]

oh yea main issue with psp go was select on right side

so can't press with left thumb which messed up my muscle memory

it was the kick button on mh with greatsword

[heavy thicket]

All I care is when we getting this device what specs

All that shit

[ebon cradle]

RK3326

[dense aspen]

Not really, it’s the difference between a regular stick and a regular slider, but it’s at a ridiculously smaller size where a slider will outright feel worse than the thinkpad nipple the New 3DS had.

[fervent lantern]

its anbernic

h700

[heavy thicket]

You know t618

[hollow breach]

T820 minimum for this

[heavy thicket]

👀 I thought you wanted d8300

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-cant-stop-laughing-gif-14341553

[hollow breach]

I do, but I could deal with a t820

[ebon cradle]

My money is on either RK3326 or SD 8g2

[dense aspen]

In other words, I’d outright agree that you’re correct on it being worse than the nipple.

[fervent lantern]

h700 gang

[ebon cradle]

SlideXX

[fervent lantern]

h700 plays patapon fine right?

[hollow breach]

Snapdragon X Elite or doa

[heavy thicket]

Nope it would get lock off like playstation live services

[ebon cradle]

I wonder how retroid is gonna respond to the slide

[heavy thicket]

As usual retroid pocket 6 baby

Stick on top

[ebon cradle]

Sure hope stick on top

[minor tundra]

It has a fan so it’s definitely at least t610

[ebon cradle]

If not get a better dpad

[dense aspen]

Probably won’t care since they’re working on the RP6 and whatever “Mini V3” screen they’re apparently still working on.

[minor tundra]

I’d love if this were lower end rather than d8300, and I especially don’t want the d8300 specifically, battery life seems bad

[ebon cradle]

T820 would be groovy

[hollow breach]

Those cowards still need to release the classic sp

[heavy thicket]

Really hating d8300 lmaoooooo

[minor tundra]

I just want a big screen in my pocket to play ff7 on with gammaOS so t820 or g99

[heavy thicket]

I can't lie I do want t820 or g99 at least

Just a cheeky few ps2 games

[minor tundra]

T820 can play the vast majority of ps2 games

[heavy thicket]

🤭

[ebon cradle]

It can play f zero GX and that’s all that matters

[heavy thicket]

T820 is really underrated