#Miyoo Mini FLIP - A smaller Miyoo Flip
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I had taxes applied, think it said about $15 or something. I have no email confirmation to check but the money did go out my account.
what message? all i have is a order confirmation.
And I told them that you all hope they honor the orders or will cancel. So… 🤷🏻♂️ Plus this will be available on Ali soon. We are all just excited.
I thought someone posted a message about Miyoo telling them they need to pay shipping/taxes? I’m too lazy to scroll up. 😆
Can we contact them to order and include an extra set of the hinges for any Miyoo Flip’s we have, assuming they’re compatible (as in they aren’t having to redesign the hinge portion of the shell for Miyoo Flip’s)?
I also told them… AGAIN… to do translucent colors and that people will buy it more than the current colors and that we won’t think it’s ugly. I’m trying to convince them.
Pretty sure it’s a shell revision needed. You’ll need a whole new device.
Got it, so I’ll go ahead and not get a whole new device, since I don’t expect they’d be doing replacements for any particularly old orders.
Translucent miku's hair color
Probably not unless your hinge breaks within 1 year and you bought direct.
I'd want either orange or the teal that the rg35xxplus did
No email yet but when I manage to look my order up, I see this so far
I heard someone mention that, but I never got that message/email.
I think i was one of the first orders, i got both paypal and miyoo confirmation emails almost instantly
Ok just got an email finally, asking to confirm address for the order 🤞 for free delivery still
maybe they decided not to push it with asking people to pay the shipping and taxes if they realized people would start cancelling their orders?
🤷🏻♂️ just was generic email saying please confirm address to allow us to process your order
still no email here, I just want to know if they are going to honor the order or not, given the weirdness of the whole thing
Got a confirmation email for my 2nd order that happened about an hour in with shipping, still nothing for the first order
Unexpectedly, I finally have ordered a Mini Flip. A black one. I have hesitated with a yellow because I was not able to decide whether the color was more "canary" or defenitely "mustard". Now I have to curate my ROM list to accomodate the weak CPU, hoping that my unit will stand a mild overclock and the screen doesn't show light bleed.
If its like the V4 mini. Its more of a piss yellow 😅
The yellow here is way more appealing imo
Not quite bright yellow. Yellow with a hint of red
Yeah def looks better in those pics
If it gets cancelled I’ll wait. I’m not paying $70 for a $40 device.
miyoo flip v2 has been getting less than $50 pretty often now
shipped US local
size isnt the same but you get more CFW options and portmaster
I kinda wish this had the 3566 instead of what the og had
yeah that and the price is what unsold me
i havent used mmy miyoo flip v2 in years
The 34xxSP basically replaced the miyoo flip for me
This one is more of a cheese yellow.
litnxt updated price to 69.99 rough
I wanted to take the Miyoo Flip long before, but ending getting the 34xxSP. Build quality was a factor, but I was also won by making it a dedicated GBA device. It's awesome this way, but I miss having a 4:3 for things like ports 😄
paypal statement, i didn't get a confirmation of any kind tho, checkout page just kind of loaded indefinitely too so nothing on the site
but it's nice for 16:9 ports ;o
UFO50 and VHR doesnt look too bad stretched
that's rough
Miyoo gonna Miyoo I guess
it was too much to expect a smooth launch
I love my 34xxSP and it's 3:2 aspect ratio. I just wanted the Mini Flip because it looked cute
yah, oh well, aliexpress in a week it is lol
Not sure if anyone else experienced this when ordering but I used gpay and it said continue on the miyoo site, I figured it meant it would let you confirm details before submitting your order, but it just finalized everything and ordered. All my details were right but I wasn’t quite ready to submit the order.
Haven’t gotten charged for shipping yet so, if it’s canceled on me, I likely won’t go through with the order
It's the same thing for PayPal
Wait you guys got free shipping?.meme
miyoo does advertise for free... not free shipping though
Shipping was like $28 to canada last night. $104 total.
If you were there in the first 30 minutes to an hour, Miyoo seemed to have messed up and not set up shipping fees
Like I paid exactly USD $52.99 for mine
I checked a little after 11pm est i think
Yea mine was within the first 10 minutes
I think that was shortly after launch right? They said 8pm pst?
That’s what I saw earlier in the day with other items, but so far I haven’t gotten charged and I’m in Canada too
Im willing to wait. My mint rg35 is tucked away in my drawer.
I play my v90 more than my pocket3+ and rg35...lmao
I may sell the rg35, too chonk, too noise
While I get the engineering of the hinge likely cost a bit, would’ve been nice to see a lower initial cost though considering how cheap the a30 tends to go for and it has slightly more power
I kinda figured it wasn't normal cause Free Shipping would've been something they 100% advertised
So I bought one the moment I saw it was free
They told me they were willing to eat the shipping cost for some of the early orders
"Hello, I believe you received the email. Just to confirm, #Miyoo1622
#Miyo01014, our boss is willing to cover the unpaid shipping costs for some orders. Do you want both consoles or cancel one of them?"
Since yesterday they told.me.to.orfer again, so I did.
neat
Free fun!
No purchase necessary 🤣
Is it over there with the early bird price?
Do you know the scope this applies to? I think I was one of the first orders placed when it went live
Sent them an email just to confirm my shipping address just in case
Now I wait
If they ask me to cancel, then I'll just wait to order when it reaches something like Amazon I dunno
This is the email i got sent earlier
Blurred out order number
Did you buy yours the instant they dropped
20 mins after go live for me
Ah ok, haven't gotten that email and I bought it pretty instantly so I was wondering
I think their emails are flooded
damn no email still
Yeah I’m not even going to try to fix my first order for a bit. I don’t really mind paying for shipping, I just want to have at least one order in the first shipping wave (which it looks like I have with my 2nd order)
I’ll give them another day or two to offer options for the 1st order, definitely at least need a refund since both orders already charged
Ok, I finally got the confirmed email.
Annoying it took this freaking long, but admittedly can’t blame them when it’s Amazon Web Servers being garbage.
i know nothing beyond that message
lucky you, still nothing here
Anyone seen a size comparison with the gkd pixel 2?
battery life looks pretty bad
Miyoo Flip RH Links
GoGameGeek: $59.50 w/ code RH15 + Free Shipping
http://rh-go.link/Miyoo-Mini-Flip_GGG
LITNXT: $59.50 w/ code GAMEORTREAT + Free Shipping
http://rh-go.link/Miyoo-Mini-Flip_LITNXT
Miyoo (Direct): $52.99 + $20 Shipping
https://lomiyoo.com/
AliExpress (Miyoo Store): Coming Soon
http://rh-go.link/Miyoo-Mini-Flip_AE
Ended up grabbing a Pink and White off the direct site
still haven’t gotten my Thor and now a new item on my bucket list ig
Gonna be a great New Year’s Eve gift for sure…
I'm color blind so I might be wrong but I perceive both colors very differently. As I hate the washed yellow of the Flip, I like the Mini Flip's more "mustard" yellow. Do you beleive that they changed the color, and is the new one indeed more "mustard" ?
@stiff ether posted their flip v2 alongside the cheddar mini flip here, peep the media tab
Lol
here @austere ginkgo (sorry to tag you kitfox)
Found it, thanks. The new yellow is indeed very different, and way better. I’ll probably ask to change color (ordered a black).
Looks much better
It doesn't have c to c charge support 🥲
pretty typical with these cheap ass devices
Ooh that mustard yellow IS really nice 💕
The paler yellow reminds me of some really old wall socket plates we had in a dinky apartment when I was a kid lmao
Mini Flip vs RGB30 vs Flip V2
All "Yellow"
Rgb30 is like standard yellow, not bad. Mini flip is a nice, idk, pikachu yellow haha and the flip2 is like a American cheese
YES EXACTLY lol
The v4 supports c to c
I cancelled my order
I'll stick to the gkd pixel 2
Im looking to replace my v90 and my rg35
no bluetooth, no c to c, pretty annoying
Ya theres some hangups
Is the phenomenon real? Never making a perfect device? Always some loose wire
From what joey says it gets hot af
Dammit, the c to c thing is very annoying, especially seeing as how the v4 had it
& the battery life seems awful
Onion os currently doesn't have usbc audio out support
So with no headphone aux thats really sucks
its not usb-c audio out
its a fucking aux cable over spare usb-c lanes
it will only work with the included dongle its probably not even wired as an otg port
🤦♂️
only if they get wifi in it this time
I would hope so
Oh that isn’t happening on the h700
This thing is fuggin adorable… maybe I’ll cop
Although I keep hearing about Miyoo’s hinge issues
I can't speak for others but I didn't have an issue with my Flip V1
does litnxt or lomiyoo include us tariffs in the price? I’m not sure how tariffs would work for this since they keep changing lol
Is there a possibility we can get this without the $20 shipping via an Ali Express vendor with a US Presence ?
$70 free shipping
I got my order confirmation for two flips with no shipping so looks like they will honour it
They will make it available through other retailers, which should have cheaper shipping options, but the price of the handheld itself may be more (at least the $60 MSRP).
I’ve asked to change from Black to Yellow.
still no email 21 hours later
join the club, i dont have one either lol
Me neither
Finally got the login code I requested yesterday, um, one of 40 probably
$10 dollar bet says that 2nd batch on Aliexpress will ship faster than our orders
i didnt get an email, but i didnt order so its probably ok
i hope it doesnt take too long for miyoo to ship them out
although being in canada, canada post is on strike so mine might take longer regardless
I thought they are switching to a rotating strike?
Or something
idk anymore, its like they change their mind each week lol
soon as they're in the shipping network it should pop which end carrier its with (on parcelsapp)
depends what city you're in alot have a bunch of non crappypost options
if you're rural kinda fucked tho
yeah i kinda live in the middle of nowhere, not far from bigger cities but its literally a 1 traffic light town lol
Miyoo will honor free shipping.
hope thats the case for mine with what im seeing so far
my buddy near me ordered one but got charged shipping lol
probably an oops we forgot to charge tariffs for the americans
havent seen them ask any canadians about a fee adjustment
thats nice at least, still got no email
Yay, I saved $55 on shipping and taxes, lol.
I’ll probably wait for version 2 or 3 — Miyoo already had to replace my Miyoo Flip twice.
To be fair… this is hinge V3. It’s going in the Flip next.
That’s shipping out quite fast, hope mine has the same fate lol
Ive got a postive email for both my orders
now I wish I had done two different colors lol
So some got free shipping and some didn't or won't? 🤨
I got email from them saying they updated my delivery address to process order. So yeah sounds like free delivery 👍 glad i ordered 2 now
I got an email asking to reorder, but they will keep valid my Grey unit, and with the first order they will refund the shipping also. I had this problem because with gpay it didn't get my delivery address
How come? Just curious cuz if I can find a flip for under $50 I was gonna buy. Bjt with this mini flip I think I’ll get the mini flip instead
I just like how the 34XX SP feels and I think the screen looks a lot better than the one on the Flip
So I wouldn't need to pay those 13 €?
There was an hour or so period at launch where Miyoo didn't add the shipping price. They fixed the error pretty quickly but are allowing people who ordered it in that time frame without the shipping price.
Whoo, got my 2nd code, 38 more to go
I see, thank you for explaining
that is an absolute deal breaker
that's fucked up
miyoo dropping the ball so hard after the mini plus
You'll just jave a longer cable, what's the problem :p
well, for one, if you lose the dongle that's it, you get no headphone out
You can buy one relatively cheap
it's not gonna work, only the included one does
do we know this for sure already? or maybe wait for some proper reviews?
finally got my order confirmation lol
happy to see that miyoo isnt forcing people to reorder
Finally woke up to 5 expired login codes for logging into their website, lol.
I don't need any new handheld. And yet I caved in...
I'm pretty sure it will be as it is for the trimui smart : any non dac usb-c adapter for headphones will work.
There are two "standards" for usb audio : one with DAC and the other without dac. The first one gets a digital signal while the latter gets an analog signal. Obviously they aren' innterchangeable
You have to be careful when shopping them because it isn't always obvious what the adapters embed on the product descriptions
Price is not good (germany). And i can not ship to czech republic…
€13.17 shipping is weird
When I checked Sweden the other day, it was like €8.70
I wait for BF on Ali… this price is overkill for this (shit) HW…
Absolutely
So my MM v4 will be happy 😛
the funny aws outage power hour super early bird sale was pretty good tho
Anyone’s order ship?
i ordered at launch, still got no confirmation email, but i contacted support and they assured me everything is fine with my order, they are just swamped bc of high order volume.
Yeah it will come through. I seem to be getting emails at random times of the day. Does the order show up the shop app?
I ordered in the first minute and just got my email about an hour ago.
Same
it does.
Then i wouldn’t worry 🙂 long as the order shows up there. I would say you are good
yes thats also what the support told me 👍
Same here to France (yesterday : minor variation due to exchange rates I guess). Note that the price includes 20% VAT. That's roughly equivalent to $66, delivered. I've ordered nevertheless and changed to Yellow as soon as I realized that it was not the same yellow as the Flip v2.
why do we often see companies not supporting c to c charging? is it really that expensive to include?
Still, can't you aford 2.73€ more ? I mean, we - who live in western countries - mostly pay way less for anything, that it would cost to produce by ourselves (if we were *able to in a first place). $66 is what some US companies charge you for a random piece of metal for a bike or a camera. We all should step back a bit.
What's also nice with a clam, is that you don't need to buy an additional screen protector or case.
It’s not much more expensive. However at scale it is a small difference in cost. Domestic customers in china have less expendable income (and are generally less fussy/focused on high quality), this might be a factor Miyoo think is worth balancing
I’m not sure any of us really know the percentage of domestic sales make up their customer base. If someone has insight, it would be interesting to know!
why did they put wifi inside then?
I don’t have the answer for that. Maybe they surveyed domestic customers on important features. My background is more in UXD than hardware
I’m also disappointed they left out a 3.5mm jack tho. It makes more sense to disclude a 3.5mm jack if at least bluetooth is included
also got my order confirmation email, after like 30 hours lol
I think if they included a headphone jack, BT, and some translucent / metallic colours, they’d have a home run in the retro handheld market
I got away with murder in retrospect 😂 here's hoping they honor it
The costs are higher... it's not just the cost of the parts... it make the circuits more complex during development, it requires special firmware and software to handle the negotiation of power(gotta pay someone to develop it)... it needs testing to ensure safety and working properly... If you consider the costs of both hardware, software, and labor needed... it doesn't make sense for a cheap device like these.
Just got it for $59,50 (€51,24) from Gogamegeek, shipping to France, with the code "JP55" 🙂
I feel like with propreritary usb-c dongle, usb-a only charging, no bluetooth it shoukd have been cheaper
okay I'm just gonna shutup now
way too much nagging about the fuckups
I am just saying all this cause I was actually legitemately interested in this device, until the deal breakers started pilling up
I pre-ordered on Litnxt because there's no shipping costs but I'll wait longer for my unit 😅
But I'll see if the price on Ali is cheaper I might cancel the pre-order from Litnxt and get it from the first
Gogamegeek too have no shipping/taxes cost, if it can help
from Litnxt (w/o games) I got the price for 50,17 €
That’s fair. The 34SP has the best screen out of these flips? I’m still deciding which flip I want. I had the 35sp but I have to my brother. The buttons were horrid and it was too bulky in the pocket
You're a saint
Just got one myself for the same price
I haven't tried any of the powkiddy flips but the 3 Linux flips I do own, the 34XX SP's screen has color and brightness to me.
Gotcha
lol maybe trimUi will make a flip someday
Joey kept saying the MMF was hot to the touch.
Joey has butter for fingers I’m sorry.
If it’s not got built in AC he says it gets too hot
heat from handhelds is really annoying, i understand
he actually mentioned it getting hot... then a minute or 2 later says... ooh it's because I have it charging, lol
i watched the whole stream at work, he does say when it's not charging that it's warm
Not an option in EU.
...but I'm in EU 🤨
Finally got my email confirmation, that took a while
Now we all wait for "2 weeks" for them to start shipping them, lol.
Miyoo did send me an email that they would ship today 😀
don't ruin the miyoo 2 week joke, lol
also just got the confirmation email. ordered right after launch
so.... we will get the shipped email in 2 weeks... after we receive the device, lol
Haven't gotten my email yet 🙃
Me neither
Ever since Funkey made the Funkey S, I've always wanted a Funkey M. I'm glad Miyoo is finally delivering what I've dreamed of. I hope it doesn't suck lol
Funny you say that, that was kinda my thought as well. Even ordered the grey version for that reason.
What about a different site like litnxt or gogamegeek?
Never tried them before but tbh I'm not comfortable with ordering from drop shippers.
I can confirm that mine also gets a little warm when not charging
gogamegeek at least is legit, I can vouch for them
Litnxt gogamegeek and mechdiy are all the same company btw
The only "issue" I see with them when it comes to the flip is them taking a month to ship them based off what their site says since I assume they don't have them in stock yet. But from other times I've used them all, I've never had any issues.
I ordered mine to Japan
From the official store? There's no option for Japan in the shipping country dropdown for me.
Oh, yeah that's strange. They definitely messed something up because it was there the other day. Maybe message on their site chat thing
Hmmm ...🤔
I actually had to ask them to add Japan because it wasn't there originally. It's why I couldn't get my order in before batch 2
It seems like they decided to launch their own site without doing any research on how to set it up lol
I guess I'll ask on their chat
Yep and I might've gone with powkiddy if they hadn't increased the size of their new clamshell
That's how we engineers roll, learn by doing, lol.
Truth be told, I once worked tech support and we didn't get any training. Mostly just put customers on hold and then learned how to do it and what the fuck they were taking about. That was a lot of fun and I kinda miss those wild times
How did you know that’s how I learned spruce stuff?

woohoo, just got another email login code from miyoo from yesterday morning, lol
I keep getting those too... So much for being only good for 15 minutes lol
I won't close my browser... if I do I won't be able to get back in, lol.
For the people that have gotten shipping confirmation emails do y'all have an account with Miyoo or did you checkout without one
Was wondering if that has any effect
It isn't a shipping confirmation email. What I got is a purchase confirmation email.
And yes, I have an account with them. I opened it 2 days before the release to be prepared, lol.
I ordered without an account. Just got the email earlier today after 1 or 2 days
hm
You can check your order even without an account
Finally got an order confirmation email
Ship it! Ship it!
Just got tracking for mine! So seems first batch is going out now.
Anyone who paid via PayPal got email confirmation? I ordered within 2 minutes of the launch and still only have the PayPal payment email 😐
Yeah I paid by PayPal
But second batch, preorder
Got order confirmation
Like 22 hours later
i ordered mine yesterday - is it 1st batch or 2nd batch
for the record, my tracking doesn't actually show anything yet, it looks like it's just had the label generated
hmm, cancellations per the webpage are supposed to be within 12 hours
If you can, check your order, what does it say here
First batch won't say Preorder
Nice, I got my tracking number with the free shipping 😎
Anyone else been playing their original MM in anticipation of?
I busted out my v4 and started tooling around
i would be if i didnt sell it lol
using all my systems (magicx z28, rg405m and trimui brick hammer) trying different stuff on all them
I kind of want to setup up Allium OS on my old MM+ to prepare for this
Do it! Allium is amazing!
Had a small update recently
Do as @left urchin said, do it! Allium really is amazing!
order # 1190 in white shipped
I'm not jealous at all
@wet scroll thanks guys, says preorder, so it's batch 2, it's what I preferred
190 or 1190?
1190 but I think they started at 1000
lowest order I saw was 1016 from a guy waiting for it to go live 
plus miyoo sells in batches and they rarely have more than 1-200 of each color
Mine just shipped as well (Grey)
Just got my tracking number for order 1191 in gray
Why would they not have the latest FW on each of these newer devices 
Miyoo
Strange, my order 1160 has not shipped yet, maybe they are doing it by color?
Very cool of them to honor free shipping for the people that sniped it
i havent gotten a "shipped" email but on my order page theres a tracking number
fr lol
i just got the shipped email lol
got a tracking number on the website
weirdly, they are shipping with YANWEN, rather than the usual 4PX
first time I see that shipper used
order 1163 btw
that is the shipper they used for my dev unit
A30s still ship with old FW where WiFi is broken
They have an industrial way of flashing FW to these I’m sure, so they don’t change it once it works and the devices can still be updated
If it turns on, and can be updated, why go through every box and update them by hand?
Make the user do that if they want the buttons to work so bad!
Most users just play with the software anyway, you have to play games to notice the buttons are wonky 
yes, because buttons working properly is such a "huge" ask 
tbf.........even as a dev........i flashed every CFW from back then until i found 1 that worked. Stock OS = Suck OS
Spruce to the rescue
Tracking info seems to be saying my unit is already in the states?
Basically saying USPS has picked it up in Miami
onion stable, allium, MinUI, Koriki, & Spruce will all have something for the Mini Flip very shortly
If that’s actually real I may have this in hand before the end of the week
out the gate, Onion Stable & Allium work well enough until then
allium is like PakUI/NextUI before they even came around. i love it
its what i defaulted too
Now I gotta pick up 5 sd cards... and 5 mini flips. 
Allium, you wont look back lol
allium recognizes Wifi & the 560p screen out the box
Under the hood, does it come with the Onion performance optimizations and all additional cores ?
And how is interpolation performed ? Some special recipe or do we rely on RA with Normal2x + Bilinear?
I've heard Allium is similar to MinUI in terms of functionality. It's just less minimalist in terms of aesthetic
got the shipped email now
Answers about Allium
- https://github.com/goweiwen/Allium/blob/main/static/RetroArch/RetroArch_Dingux_forMiyooMini.txt says it has Bicubic just as Onion so nice (good and more efficient than RA CPU filters)
- https://github.com/goweiwen/Allium/tree/main/static/RetroArch/.retroarch/cores does list the available cores. All updated 2 days ago
And lid seems to work. Worth a try.
https://github.com/goweiwen/Allium
looks like @wheat ridge was the first to release an officially supported CFW!
Does allium have game switcher like onion?
No
Sadge
It has a pop up menu like MinUI
It’s very very very good
It’s my go to CFW for MMP/MM
The onion has spoiled. Allium is the future
Has the Onion really spoiled?
Idk what's exactly wrong with it
It just hasn't updated in forever
not spoiled... but it needs an update for lid close/open
Is onion open source?
Yes
Everything is good
Nothing about onion is spoiled
That’s a weird way to look at things
It was a joke, sorry
Do either onion or allium support homebrew apps or something similar?
I know a couple os's have toolchains for cross compilation, or if it's as simple as using an arm one
Shipping email got sent
Just the label creation tho, doesn't look like they've picked it up
Yes and no. MainUI is closed source which Onion still uses. So there are limitations with UI and other things.
Things like text scrolling and themes and other. Onion is a heavily modified stock OS with its own toolset and optimizations. It’s not a full ground up and therefore bound to Mini/MMP/Mini Flip
Ahh, that makes sense. Ive been working on an OS based on Batocera for some of the other devices, so I've been used to buildroot
MinUI/Allium on the other hand are full custom and not using stock MainUI
Cool. ES/Batocera are good for other devices and users. I love the snappiness of MinUI/Allium. I can’t use anything else on these devices.
Even Onion is sluggish (probably because MainUI) compared to those two.
I'm working on my own UI for mine, though mainly focused on boot time, simplicity and a music player. I'm not sure what devices I'll be able to support yet, though currently targeting rk3566
Allium is pretty nice
Tho I keep forgetting the reason why I stopped using my OG MM+ was because it didn't have RTC
I want to say onionOS works with updates on this right? Just doesn’t include anything for the open/close and probably not WiFi either since the origins MM doesn’t have it?
Do we have dimensions on this yet?
OnionOS has wifi
#1372499987606405171 message
Does Onion differentiate between the old and new mm screens?
Or do you have to do some work after install?
Yes and no. It handles the new screen correctly... but various themes were designed for 640x480(v1-v3 and mm+) and cause graphical glitches on the v4 and the miyoo mini flip because the images are the wrong size instead of being 750x560.
So not all themes are compatible.
I have successfully got rid of the glitches by modifying the images in my theme and stretching them to fit the resolution of the v4.
Yeah themes, overlays and borders are probably a pain because v4 is the minority of owners. Maybe with the flip it will become the more common screen.
I also don't have RTC on my MMv4.. Wondering if the flip will have it.
Surely
The flip has RTC somebody mentioned.
so tey cancelled the one that i paid shipping for and refunded me, and are shipping the one that i didnt pay shipping for.... but the one i didnt pay shipping for has the wrong shipping address still it seems. so lets see what happens next ......
Any size comparisons for this vs RG28xx and RG Nano
So wait - what's Allium and how does it compare to Onion?
My original mmv4 has Onion and i loved it but it obviously won't have the lid close sleep mode or probably some other bugfixes that'll be needed so i'm wondering how to upgrade
and can i just say how happy i am to live in the timeline where Miyoo made the Mini and the Flip Mini
and the community around them made such amazing custom content
Allium is based on MinUI so it has a lot of features from it
The clean UI and the general presentation
Allium ftw
But it doesn't use MinArc and uses full RetroArch so you have the settings from that
Has a lot of QoL stuff borrowed / reimplemented from onion os too like the bicubic scaling from that
Woop finally got my tracking, ordered about 30 mins after launch, just before they fixed the free shipping issue
Yea Yanwen
I loved MinUI back in the day. Will have to try Allium.
So crazy that this hardware is still persisting after all this time.
Just a solid little setup for 2D retro on the go.
Allium is love on this Mini Flip
I wish I knew
Only thing I wish it had, like Onion, was the Ports
Outside of that, it's amazing
Perfect
Considering the new release of Allium... might even be nice to install on the v4 again, lol.
I love having that MinUI style with Box Art, WiFi, and Speed/Snappiness/560p
Inspired by. It’s own code.
I see 👌
Just wanted to give props as it’s well done and completely written in its own language and not a fork.
Allium has lived in the Onion shadow for years. It’s nice to see it get some eyes on it lately. I also think the community has turned a corner and embraced choice and preference for OS/UI use vs the echo chamber of days past. 😎👍
bring on the sprig supremacy
But remember… Play games, Not UI.
I love minUi on pretty much every non-android device, the only thing really keeping me on onion for my MM+ and for what I gave to friends as gifts was the suspend/resume game switcher. That’s a huge deal
That said, I’m probably going Allium this time around since the game switcher and auto saving isn’t as necessary for me
Allium uses RetroArch and can enable auto save.
Does Allium do hinge sleep on this/is it planned?
Hinge support added yesterday
Sure, but I’d prefer to just stick to save states. Was more stating how seamless onion makes things work for people who don’t really use emulators regularly
I'm sold
I politely disagree. MinUI/Allium/Miyoo stock in-game menu is more user friendly than hotkeys
I can toss a device set up and give no tutorial with those.
Remembering hotkeys for a new and casual user is a nightmare
Still nothing for me. No shipping. Ordered 20 mins after launch. But i did order 2 which is what i think could be the problem
Says mine is in So-Cal. Weird. Order 1033
Allium has auto save and load on by default
You can just turn it off like I did tho
Same, I ordered 2, and nothing yet.
Does Allium have syncthing?
Glad its not just me 😅
I sent them an email to ask about the shipping, 5 hours ago, no response yet.
True, but we will supposedly have them faster since they are not going to open Aliexpress to sales until the end of the month.
That is why I took the risk, to get my hands on them sooner.
Does Myioo ship the Mini Flip with good quality CD cards ? I have heavilly curated my collection to fit up to PS1 and taking the control limitations in ro account, plus narrowing to almost zero every redundancy by only keeping the definitive versions of games. And it appears that my collection should fit a 64GB card !
None of these companies ship with good quality cards
Always supply your own
You can Buy cheap Multi Packs of them on Amazon from Brands like:
PNY, Patriot, Team Group, Lexar, Silicone Power
Just make sure they are A1 cards, this will at least give you 100mbs Read/Write Speeds
I would literally never trust a Miyoo stock SD card with any data you’d be sad to lose
Back to Allium, is there something that would help to sync saves ?
Schrödinger's SD cards
Oh that’s awesome
I agree for the most part, something like MinUI just doesn’t have enough options to overwhelm anyone. Onion though, you can pretty much avoid menus entirely if you don’t care about having unique save states and just rely on the autosave/load the switcher provides.
I am order #2030. Supposedly second batch order 30?
Nope
The numbers are probably randomized a little to make it harder to guess. But the numbers are incremental.
Well, all I know is I am on the preorder wagon. Anyway I ordered about 48 hours after the fact
I have had an eye on Allium for a while. But I stayed true to MinUI
Hoping mine ships sooner than later, a buddy of mine ordered after me and already has his being shipped while mine is still stuck on confirmed
The indicator is if it says Preorder or not
First batch won't have anything under the Color
Second batch will say Pre-order
Yes, it does way so. Hence my knowing of me being on the preorder wagon
But I made an assumption as to say that #2030 could be in the 2xxx because of the second barch thing
Apparently not
Still using my freebie card for dev stuff. I should quit while it hasn’t gone bad. 😬🤪
There are 2 possibilities... they sold 1000 units between the 19th and the 22nd... or you are right and the 2xxx is the second batch... I think both are possible.
Anyone else have two different tracking numbers?
I have two emails. Different numbers. Both shipped Yanwen.
So you admit it! You are developing something for it! 🤪
😳😬 Well I’m rocking my freebie TrimUI card AND freebie Miyoo card. I’m the worst developer ever.
I have 3 Bricks going. 2 with nice cards and one with freebie. Mini Flip 2 cards. I have no idea why I’m using these crap cards though.
This reminds me... I need to pick up a TrimUI brick and a miyoo A30, lol.
I have a grey Hammer I only briefly tested and brand new Purple Brick if you’re in the US and want a deal?
I also have a black A30.
With all black buttons of course. DM me if interested
While I am interested, I am not in the US. I am in Chile, south america.
Bummer.
It's cool. Thanks for the offer anyway.
I got 2 as well, one long USPS one and a short Yanwen one.
I asked them if they ship to Japan, and told them that Japan is not in the list with a screenshot. They just replied "Yes we ship to Japan", but it's still not added to the list. 
I guess the free shipping thing is gone now?
Ooo thanks for this
MinUI style, with Box Art, WiFi, 560p screen Recognition, more Emulators supported, faster Boot Up time than Onion, No Ports (I miss that from Onion)
Same NDS performance, Same Ps1 Performance, same Sleep Functionality
No Game Switcher
Ohh thank you 🤣
NDS standalone ?
It'd be nice if this hits aliexpress in time for their 11.11 sale. I'd like to see a few reviews and stress tests before jumping on one. I'd gladly pay $40ish after a coupon for one of these puppies.
granted idk if the pico8 wrapper supports the 540p screen
i think my order is 1330, and i just thought since it's so orderly that was the product code or something 😅
happy to be on the bleeding edge for one of these
I think the free shipping was done after the first hour. Shipping to Japan was about ¥750 for me. I pestered their chat to add Japan to the country list again too
It was more like 20 or 30 minutes.
Go figure, tracking number doesn't arrive so I contact miyoo support and they say I needed a phone number for the order... Would've been nice if they had asked for it sooner rather than just not shipping the order.
I opened mine over 1,000 times and was not nice to it. I held it by the body and aggressively opened it like an angry kid. It’s a good hinge.
Good to know it should hopefully last. If anbernic, powkiddy, and funkey can design a good hinge, no reason miyoo can't lol
Yes I essentially tried to break it. Honestly I was tough with it. If they are all built like mine it should last long enough to get you moneys worth at least.
For years I've been searching for a device that will bring me the same kind of joy as my old og pocketgo. Needs to be small and handle games well but I have yet to find something that fits my needs perfectly. Many have come close, but nothing has filled that void yet.
rip
very good to hear
Hmm, I mean I've ordered about 5 handhelds to Japan and I've never had a problem
Yeah, never had problems lol
They asked me if it's okay to delay my order RIP 🥲
Now what am I gonna do, play retro games on my other 30 handhelds?
Maybe I'll buy an ugly pink one from Litnxt and hope sakura retro mods makes some nice buttons to replace the fleshy abominations Miyoo chose
they shoulda done white buttons on the pink one
honestly would look sick with black buttons
@tawny peak oh I forgot got tracking number and its flagged as going to a local courior PDN Express not crappy post so hopefully it works out for you
so my order 1039 placed after 1 minute from launch, has been refunded. The one I placed after the grey was sold out, but the one I placed in the first place, has been shipped yesterday. After I reminded them that they told me they will refund also the shipping on the second order, they actually did it today! So win win for me I suppose, I will get the unit I wanted and with no shipping
My order is 18XX so not that far from @fresh spade
Since I won’t be home the following 2 weeks, I’ve asked to delay my order a bit and get a 2nd batch instead. Some optimizations beeing included in the 2nd batch, better this way.
Miyoo just emailed every address that ordered a Miyoo Mini Flip to Japan by CC. So we all know each others email addresses now lol
Oh crap i think mine is in the states now!
they're really fucking up this running their own store now thing 
seriously is ali's fees that much worse than running a shopify site
Yeah, I'm just waiting for everyone to start hitting reply-all
I have a....2-3 month old Miyoo flip (white) no issues so far, but jeeze does that hinge CRACK when it opens. It sounds terrible lol.
MinUI support added ✅
That's one way to build a community 😅
lmao
well, time to create a Japanese Miyoo fan telegram channel
Does anybody know if there is an Allium discord or resources beyond the github page? I was trying to setup a card using my MM in anticipation of the Mini Flip. However, it did not populate any folders within the ROMs folders and I am not sure of the format/naming that is expected for the folder structures.
You can name it anything, just have the console Prefix in brackets
Example is I use
Gameboy Advance (GBA)
Which shows up as just
Gameboy Advance
Okay, is there a full list of those. GBA makes sense but is it FC or NES, SFC or SNES, etc? Or is it identical to what MinUI uses?
Thank you!
Hey guys I dont have a flip yet but could someone try my fork of Onion and let me know if lid detection and suspend resume is working as expected?
https://github.com/xXJSONDeruloXx/Onion/releases/tag/mm-flip-lid-sleep-test
Straight to jail
you're on a roll
call me butter
actually a todo list im keeping in local for myself, added to gitignore temporarily so I can just be lazy and git add . instead of specifying each file lol
oh, i usually keep some MD files with claude so I thought you did that as well haha
you can add to .git/info/exclude instead of .gitignore if you want a local ignore
As long as you use this list here, you should be able to create the folders with the names you want.
So for example "Pokemon Rom Hacks (GBA)" would be able to launch with the GBA emulator.
oh I didnt know that, cool
More wiki entries coming soon!
thank you @left urchin
oh snap weiwen youre the Allium dev
I think a link to these things should be in the README... had to do some searching and digging to find it.
getting a black screen on boot, let me troubleshoot
caught in 4k contributing to both CFWs lmao
I’m gonna add that tonight
did you see any setup or just straight black on boot?
Click on image for wiki kind of a thing
after installation, boot logo appears and then black screen
keymon doesn't respond anymore I think, have to force reboot
ok so installation completes, interesting. do you also have a non flip to try it with? wondering if hw detection has an issue
Installing Allium on my v4 now while I am still waiting on my miyoo mini flip. 😁
But I noticed that it doesn't detect my v4 correctly... shows the wrong screen resolution.
continuing on dms
oh that's weird, i never actually tested it on a v4 with the updated firmware. weird that it detects the correct resolution on the flip
anything I can do to help you debug it?
just reporting it is enough, thanks. but I won't be able to fix it that soon
I am not worried, was just wanting to try it out, I have only used OnionOS so far on it.
But I hear it is the strongest one so far on the new flip, so wanted to give it a wirl.
Perfect, that's what I was looking. Thank you!
@wheat ridge I am very impressed. Games launch so quickly compared to OnionOS.
how are the scripts called? I think I can inject the syncthing binary and get a script in there to start syncthing when wifi comes up.
@wheat ridge Chris Cromer does syncthing for spruce btw 😉
the ntp, telnet, file browser, ftp etc are all run from shell scripts in .allium/scripts, but they are actually called from code in allium_launcher/alliumd
if you can get syncthing bundled with the .so that it needs then adding in another config option is easy
will be easy, syncthing is static compiled, shouldn't have to worry about any .so files
and I already created 2 scripts
can you try running it via telnet or terminal?
the v4 doesn't have wifi... would have to wait on my dev unit mini flip which is on its way
I have a way to test though, I can modify my ftp-on.sh and have it turn on syncthing so I can try everything out
how will you test syncthing if you don't have wifi?
just test that it launches, creates the config files, etc
testing the syncing mechanism will have to wait
wifi settings only show up if you're on MM+ or MMF 😂
but you can run it via the terminal in Apps, it should work
ahhh, then I am blocked till my dev unit gets here then
just have to type with the keypad
a perfect, will try that
syncthing generates a database and config file, where should I store those in Allium?
if Onion/MinUI already have a common location, we can use the same one
will take a look and see where they store it
or not... now that I remember syncthing is a 3rd party app, not included with onionos
I guess /mnt/SDCARD/.syncthing is fine
the onion os app stores it in /mnt/SDCARD/App/Syncthing/config/
and logs in /mnt/SDCARD/App/Syncthing/serve.log
They have it as an app for a different reason though... when you run the app, it injects code into onion's runtime.sh to embed syncthing on start/shutdown
that won't be necessary here since it can be officially included
so /mnt/SDCARD/.syncthing sounds like a good place in that case
ah i guess the migration is not that simple; the database still doesn't have the latest autosave screenshot
can we default to the game cover if theres no screenshot then?
and also the recents carousell is missing button hints, you can copy them over from the recents list
the numbers (x/x) is also overlapping with the title when I have a long app name, I think we can remove that
I assume this is for me?
oops, wrong chat
I would suggest not having any hidden folders on root of sd card if you can avoid it
People will screw it up on the install
Then complain that ST don’t work
True... although the saying goes "even if I build it idiot proof, the world is just going to build a better idiot", lol
there are already 2 other hidden folders on Allium... .allium and .tmp_update...
I don't see having a 3rd be any different
It's not idiocy, it's "creativity"
MinUI already updated for this 🥺 what a legend.
Have to wait until I’m home from vacation end of November to order this though 😱
In case anyone wants to try koriki 1.6 on the device, delete the file RESIZED from the root of microsd before the put this inside of the console in the first boot.
Why not put it in one of those then?
Man, the flip keeps looking better and better, can’t wait for mine to ship and arrive now
All I have to do is adapt the selector overlay app to the new data and that's it.
Gba gamelink
.tmp_update... would not make sense, .allium would, although not my decision
True
.tmp_update may make more sense than you realize. On many Miyoo devices it is used as our hijacking point to wrest control from the stock OS, so it’s not actually for temporary update data the way spruce, MinUI, Onion, and I’m assuming Allium use it
But yeah obviously up to weiwen at the end of the day
I’m doing away with hidden folders on my new projects, instead just modifying nand to check for a main.sh at the root of the SD card (and falling back to stock behavior if it doesn’t exist). I don’t think I’ll update MinUI to do this but that’s how I’m planning to do things going forward.
Oh!! I forgot, delete the file that says RESIZED from the root of the microSD when you record the image before putting it in the console because otherwise it won't be resized. 😅
ok try this one for onion on the mini flip https://github.com/xXJSONDeruloXx/Onion/releases/tag/v3
Have you talked to the onion guys at all?
Might send them a message
Nah but tell me if this actually works ill pr their repo
I highly recommend reaching out to them
I don’t have a flip myself yet so I don’t know how valid this is, just taking queues from how Allium and min ui have added support
@/aemiii91 is on this server for sure
So hesitant to bring something to them maybe bunk
I’m sure they wouldn’t turn down some help
You’d be surprised
They are really nice folks
Your wanting to help them, I’m certain they wouldn’t turn you down
Ok I’d still like someone to verify it boots and reads lid before I present to them
Haha ok
I’m gonna test Koriki in a few minutes here, I’ll try your fork after
Sorry @misty shore 
@left urchin get some pics of how koriki looks, never seen that cfw lol
MM(F) is actually 752*560 ? Do other FW take that into account ?
I have finally finished to curate a super optimized library for the Mini Flip. Games all fit on a 64GB card. From Vectrex to NDS. I've tried to take into account controls, performance and avoid redundancies by only keeping definitive versions. Plus english patches applied to the best japanese games, and a few necessary hacks. When I've started, I didn't think that it would take me like a day work !!
Every Cfw but MinUI
I think MinUI dev of Miyoo Mini stopped before the V4 came out
It does
That’s diff from v4?
Let me share in case somebody needs inspiration. That's 1168 games, I think. This is very carefully curated and far more refined than just merging Metacritic Top 100s.
Check new release. 🙂
Shaun when the Mini Flip dropped
Same. MMF and V4 have same screen res. Mini V1-"3" have 640x480.
Any side by side size comparisons with the 35xxSP? 
So is this just game recommendations?
Or an original sp?
I've seen one with a Miyoo Flip, which is close enough in size to the original SP
Tenlevels took a lot of comparison pics if you go to Search in this channel
Gone
I purged my Discord when I thought I was leaving. Sorry.
Ah. Probably too small just to play at home once in a while with old man eyes.
If you ever had a Miyoo Mini the screen is the same size
I haven't, but I do have a 35 SP so I'll just stick with that.
Can't really go wrong with the 35sp
@carmine cradle
is this wireless adapter link or actual link cable support?
Pepsi
yes, is 752*560
Yes, only my Mini list. Not ROMs, just names. In case it helps. With ideas for homebrews, aftermarket and unseful patches.
750x560
Where did the 2 come from?
Unless my googling is wrong
752
Bump, requesting testers for onion
@sage wraith it boots 👢
Awesome is that the file he dropped? Or do you add that to an onion card
its the onion fork he dropped
@sage wraith the lid does NOT work
and the main menu theme isnt right
and.......
its bugged out now lol
i recomend you talk to the onion devs if you want to continue working one this
Boot after install and restart tho?
Can you send me the .logging file?
Other than a gh issue or pr where’s the best place? Discord?
discord yes
i think some of them are in this server
some for sure in RGH server
sorry! i already wiped the card
No worries thanks for the tests
Btw did you happen to go to the menu to set power button behavior there should have been a lid close behavior toggle
I did not
I'm having several freeze ups and lockups. I'm going to try to reinstall burn on a better card and see if I get better results
Don’t forget to delete the “RESIZED” file before first boot
Oh man thanks I did forget
That might have had something to do with your problems
yep working better n0w
ooooooo
thats cool as shit tho
link cable support is something ive been waiting for for a while
Finally have a tracking number
just realized when I built I defaulted to wrong rez, might be why menu bugged out
convinced me, still needs some cleanup and some of this hw detection is messy but PRd https://github.com/OnionUI/Onion/pull/1860
Same here.
@left urchin Great that you are currently adding documentation to Allium !! If you need ideas about what to add :
- File structure and gamelist for Boxart
- Ports
- PrBoom
- BIOS files organization if different from Onion (flat as RA, or nested by platform)
- How to update
And of you need ideas about what to implement: - Syncthing
- Syncthing
- Syncthing
MagicX will release videos of their new One35 today. Does someone have a Mini and a RG35XXH or Ayaneo Micro (roughly same size) and could post pictures of both ? Including width comparison because thickness matters a lot for pocketability.
I have an RG35xxH
Please … 🙏
I'm not entirely sure what it is you're actually asking from me
Do you want comparison pics of the MMF and 35xxH?
Since the One35 isn't that far off the 35xxH?
A picture with both side by side, to compare size.
Also thickness.
Sad… but thanks.
66.5mm wide
67.8mm long
24.3mm thick closed
126.4mm long open
Bottom is 17mm thick
Top is 7.4mm thick
So, closed, the Flip is 53% of the One35 volume. Absolutely no contest even for me who value slimness over volume for pocketability.
And the Flip's screen is 55% of the global top surface and a 29% screen/surface ratio (opened). That's 33% for the One35, which can't close, obviously.
(if I did calculate correctly)
does it help you?
The screen/surface ratio is meaningless for a flip. But if the overall volume difference was smaller, the Flip beeing thicker, I probably would have chosen the One35 over the Flip. It may sound like apple and oranges for some, but it makes sense to me regarding my very own needs/wishes.
The Miyoo Mini Flip is a clamshell version of the beloved Miyoo Mini -- same compact size, same processor, Onion OS as a software option, and a decent price point. Let's talk about why it makes me want to party like it's 2022 (and fingers crossed the hinge will hold up this time).
Buy one here (official site): https://lomiyoo.com/products/miyo...
glad to read that
The CPU is very weak obviously, but if you curate very carefuly and just don't blindly follow top lists, it is amazing how many wonderful games you can play with such a weak device. I don't feel that I loose so much because of the power, all things considered.
idk what you mean, you can play pretty much all games that are ps1 and below
Dpad looks very stiff and hard to press diagonals
good
CPU is good for everything PS1 and below, it's a known quantity
It's not
Half way between Miyoo Flip V2 & 35xxSP V2
has there been anything from the onion devs about supporting the mini flip?
Onion Devs got their Devices, and like them. Other than that, nothing
But that is usually a good sign
weird, in the rgc video that was just posted he said he talked to them and they plan on supporting it but havent gotten a device yet
A very good sign, devs usually work on what they love. If they didn't like the new device... they wouldn't develop for it.
if they have them now then maybe we can expect an onion os update soon
Some PS1 games won't run because of performance, and others won't be nice because of DPad only. As of NDS, the small screen forbids to display 2 screens at the same time and switching is not fun to me. Plus some games won't be playable due to too small fonts.
ive never run into a ps1 game that doesnt run on my miyoo minis
Oh, then yes. I wasn't told I was allowed to say anything yet. But if RGC made it public already, then yes. They are working on it
Ape Escape
Do you enjoy playing Gran Turismo 4 Sim on this ? 😀
well i mean he kinda didnt say they were working on it lol
i just put two and two together
oops
I prefer God of War ragnarok on it, runs like buttter.
Whoops
brother thats a ps2 game
but anyways lol if they have their units then thats great, this device seems pretty nice and onion os with clamshell support would make it damn near perfect
allium looks cool but no ports or syncthing is a huge miss
Going to try them all.
atleast for me
Ports are actually possible, I'm just not smart enough without help to make them work
Dev confirmed it was possible
yeah makes sense
I just helped the Allium dev implement syncthing, it will be in the next nightly.
I'm the Config junkie who can tweak shit 
does the pico8 wrapper work on the v4 screen?
nice
ok thats good, thats also a big thing id want on one of these
What about Alien Resurrection, Medal of Honor, Syphon Filter, Quake II, GT2, Ace Combat, Colony Wars, Armored Core, Apocalypse, Soul Reaver, Tomb Raider III, MechWarrior 2, MDK, Descent, G-PoliceFear Effect, Populous, Sled Storm, RC Stunt Copter ?
Did I just understand that he lost all reason not to use Allium soon? 
what about peggle
checkmate
perhaps.....
What I mean is that I was expecting way more games not playing fine on the Mini, and I was afraid to remove much more from my library to fit the device. These are actually quite all I had to remove, which was surprisingly few to me. Of course, way more have to be removed from NDS due to the small single screen, but it is amazing to play NDS in a first place.
You don't know what I mean, so I just gently tell you.
You have a curated list of DS games you can play on these?
##Non Touchscreen DS Games##
- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
- Advance Wars: Dual Strike
- Aliens: Infestation
- Asphalt: Urban GT
- Assassin's Creed II: Discovery
- Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
- Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
- Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
- Contra 4
- Dragon Quest 4/5/6/9
- Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime! *
- Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 1/2
- Etrian Odyssey 1/2/3
- Final Fantasy III
- Final Fantasy IV
- Final Fantasy Tactics: Advance 2
- Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
- Game Center CX: Arino no Chousenjou 2
- Geometry Wars: Galaxies
- Infinite Space
- Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days
- Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded
- Kirby: Super Star Ultra
- Kirby: Squeak Squad
- The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
- [Use DPAD patch] (https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/786)
- The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
- [Use DPAD patch] (https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2235)
- Lunar Knights
- MegaMan series
- Mario Kart DS
- New Super Mario Bros.
- N+
- Mega Man ZX
- Metal Slug 7
- Metroid Prime Pinball
- Phantasy Star 0
- Phoenix Wright series
- Pokemon: Black/White
- Pokemon: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
- Pokemon: HeartGold/SoulSilver
- Radiant Historia
- Retro Game Challenge
- Rune Factory 3
- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
- Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2
- Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
- Solatorobo: Red the Hunter
- Spider-Man: Web of Shadows
- Suikoden Tierkreis
- Super Mario 64 DS *
- Tetris DS *
- Trace Memory
- Trackmania DS
- Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume
(*) Include optional touchscreen-reliant modes or components, such as separate mini-games.
Sources:
That's what I've selected so far. But I don't have the device. Just a Beta list.
7th Dragon (Japan) [T-En USA by Pokeytax]
Advance Wars - Days of Ruin (USA) (En,Fr,Es)
Aliens - Infestation (Europe) (En,Fr,De)
Aperture Science (World)
Castlevania - Dawn of Sorrow (USA) [Hack No Required Touch Screen]
Castlevania - Order of Ecclesia (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Castlevania - Portrait of Ruin (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Cave Story (World)
Chrono Trigger (Europe) (En,Fr)
Dragon Quest IV - The Chapters of the Chosen (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Dragon Quest V - Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Dragon Quest VI - Realms of Revelation (USA) (En,Fr,Es)
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 - Grimoire of the Rift (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es)
Fire Emblem - New Mystery of the Emblem (Japan) [T-En by The Heroes of Shadow]
Fire Emblem - Shadow Dragon (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Ghost Trick - Phantom Detective (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Mega Man ZX (Europe) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It)
Mega Man ZX - Advent (Europe) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It)
Might & Magic - Clash of Heroes (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Newer Super Mario Bros. DS (World)
Pokemon - Version Argent SoulSilver (France)
Pokemon - Version Or HeartGold (France)
Radiant Historia (USA)
Retro Game Challenge (USA)
Shin Megami Tensei - Strange Journey (USA)
Soma Bringer (Japan) [T-En by DarthNemesis]
I'm french, hence the versions. But you get the idea. I want very minimal screen switches and I am very conservative and picky. So no touch thing and very unuseful information on the second, if any.
Since there are other systems, if there are good versions of a title with just one screen, then it will not appear here. I include Arcade as well on my SD card so the question of the "definitive" version is quite often quickly solved when it comes to action games.
Thanks. And good point for the Zelda hacks ! But I'm afraid important information is on the second screen and I hate swapping. Also, I've mostly included only games that remain interesting for one single player.
Kind of wishing I ordered retro color instead of black now lol
Perhaps you can change. I used to order black initially, and then switched to Yellow after realizing the if was not the same yellow as Filp2's.
Good.
I wish I could pin things 
Already in the air.
I can always order a second or a third 🙂
Copy/Paste into your Phone Notes
It's where I have it saved 
it's weird that discord doesn't have a favorites or boomarks feature
Considering buying the new Miyoo Mini Flip but my main gripe is the smaller screen...I feel like 3.5in displays are about as small as I'd want to go as it is, but I love the idea of a very small EDC handheld...hmm. Thoughts?
If 3.5 is the smallest you can justify then the 35xxSP is there, this would probably be too small
This is like 20% smaller
Oh wait it literally is 20%, 3.5 to 2.8 lol
depends on the consoles you want to play. These smaller screens are great for devices that originally had small screens like the Gameboy lineup.
A 2.8" 4:3 screen is 57x43mm while a 3.5" is 71x53mm. So, the 2.8" screen is actually 35% smaller in mm2. That's significantly smaller.
thats a good point. I find psx content to be a bit too tiny sometimes, even at 3.5 inches
I was playing the RG Nano for a while because of its portability. Playing GB and GBC on it was no problem but this thing looks like it will blow that out of the water. Should be able to play GBA on the Flip no problems.
make all dumps a bunch of syncthing stuff into project root btw
do yall think the dome switches mean i would use this as little as i use my brick and i should keep waiting for an ultraportable that actually works as an mp3 player?
or is this really the great leap in EDC that the brick hype suggested
the brick is not too small for me but i do not like its face buttons one bit and it never felt right to chuck in my bag without a case. this solves one of those issues?
What doesn’t feel right on them?
I put some tape over my switches to dampen them and make them more quiet and softer, not sure if that would be something you could try?
too much resistance, too convex, don’t remember if i found them too loud
which handheld did the tape mod help with? a miyoo or a brick?
That tape mode might help? I personally like how it feels and sounds now, and it’s not permanent
And I did it with my brick
i did the shave n tape with my RPMini but i think i hella prefer membrane to start with
If I weren’t sick and bed ridden, I’d take it apart to show it, although I can maybe get a video showing the noise(or lack there of) it makes now
no worries, i trust yr experience. i’ll be selling my brick anyway, i think gamehub vs portmaster, foldersync vs syncthing has made me certain ill stick with android against linux for handhelds going forward. but these tiny ones are so appealing as an edge case
If you want an interesting and fairly powerful mini sized device, the magicx mini zero 28
2.8” screen, runs android and handles DC and N64 surprisingly well with wifi on board too
thanks for the list. I'm also french so... your version is the best I could find
Thank you !
RG34XX-SP is smaller than the RG35XX-SP by a good margin, for only a little bit of a screen difference if you accept the 3/2 ratio.
yeah it always looked super cool! I think i’m out of the minis market unless it’s something extra cute and tiny like this new one tho (love that pink colorway)
wait whoah i forgot it’s android
that’s wild
Someone needs to pin this
Jinx
Mini flip buttons feel very similar to the brick as far as pressure required, but they also are flatter and do not stick out of the shell as much. Especially the d-pad feels lower to the shell compared to the brick. I slightly prefer the mini flip I think
little itty bitty teeny tiny typo, lol
with the USB-C to 3.5 cable and the appropriate software, could you see yrself using it as a music player?
lmao it happens
wasn't even me, I didn't do the makefile, but simple enough to fix
yeah I was working on carousel search and ran make all and then did my usual git add . and saw like 34 files in status lmao
high time save state screenshots are freed from onion in a switcher
I wanna see about adding it to MUos too but idk
If I put myself in a world where I didn’t usually use my phone as my music player, sure. I’m not a mega audiophile so I don’t wanna say the sound quality is like amazing and set unreasonable expectations, but playing my NES games on here over headphones sounds great to me
What kind of screen real estate do we get for each system on this?
Some indicators. Screen-to-body size ratio, as well as a screen-to-body volume index...
@dawn jasper you can see what system is using what space on the screens for the different ratios, sizes and resolutions
Looks like people would mostly play this at non integer other than GBA and Pokemini
Most people don't care about integer scaling
Sometimes, you just want to play games and not feel like you are dragging a rock in your pocket
Plus there are very good interpolation methods, which make integer scaling very overrated for the most part.
While I agree, you're not getting that on this
Ordered a mini flip!
… and a flip v2 because I couldn’t decide on a size. I was also hoping to get the v2 earlier but since I ordered both directly from Miyoo the order might be tied together
I even know people who play with stretched ratios... that's were I draw the line
Onion (Allium took inspiration as well) has a optimized bicubic scaling algorithm
So it's decent enough for the screen
Correct, and overlays.
Of course. But at least, firmwares seem to permit bicubic interpolation, which shouldn’t be too bad on such small screens with such a pixel density. As long as there is no wobble when scrolling.
And as I like having the adequate PAR for everything, I have to admit that for this 2.8” littlle one, it will be 4:3 SAR for most.
Allium dev is super cool, working together we just added a save state screenshot based recents menu thats functionally like GameSwitcher on Onion but a fair bit faster too
That's neat
I don't like a game auto resuming with auto saves
But I do like seeing a menu with recent screenshots
Id like to see the same on MuOS maybe id finally beat some dreamcast games that way
Great. And can you confirm that we’ll get Syncthing ? That would really be super great !
pretty sure its in the works, saw some commits about it and its set up to build with the other packages
idk how integrated it is yet though
it will be in the next nightly
It has arrived. Wahoo!
that was fast
Dev Unit
Got stuck in customs for a while
oh first time i see a dev unit that isn't the grey model
looks very cute
So we’re getting a new culinary theme out of you then right? 
Crack the whip
I’m really enjoying all the love Allium is getting
New device that isn’t already entrenched. Pretty good opportunity to latch onto a new OS
If it’s MinUI meets Onion then I’m here for it.
its deserved
its allium time baby 
Hey, is there anywhere the firmware for this is hosted? Little bird told me that there is a new one out already
can't see it on Miyoo's official site though.
Do you know a tool such as Skraper but which can automate downlading walkthrough guides for games like from GameFAQs ?
Oops. Went straight to the Miyoo site first. Yeah, I really should read the pins on the channel than relying on Miyoo. Thanks.
they sent it out to devs but they're slow to get it on their own site I guess
Do you Code and/or know Linux stuff?
yes, that's not the problem, the problem is I'm lazy 
Real
Main change as far as I’m aware is it swaps the event codes for L1/L2 and R1/R2 which were reversed at the firmware level on the initial version
I found MinUI just turn brightness to 1 or very dim when close lid or something
If look carefully under sunshine
Can see the content still on the screen?
It’s such a tidy codebase too, I’m having fun messing with it.
Any features or tweaks desired? I kinda want some ideas for play around with
Nah my desires usually involve removing stuff half the time
i got a thing lol
All in one os's are convinent for broad users but my needs are usually 10% of whats included
MinUI is about as lean as it gets
DM?
Was thinking a scraper in apps could be nice with the flips WiFi
Sure!
Allium is neat just tried it but boy do I miss game switcher
#1372499987606405171 message
Wow
Allium is all coded with Rust, you’d be surprised what’s possible
The mini flip is going to have soooooo many great cfw to choose from
It’s a great time in the hobby lol
Rust is so cozy, especially for someone that segfaults on everything I do in C lmao
I’m new to it but it’s nice
Check the nightly, in there settings enable carousel, that’s this new switcher style thing
always remember that time spent working on spruce is time not spent doing your main projects / job / real life
therefore it is the ultimate lazy
I ordered at launch, number 1126, still hasn't shipped to austria. I thought the first batch orders should be shipped by now. Anyone else?
My order has already departed from the airport. Order number is about a 100 or so after yours.
I’m 1372 and it shipped yesterday
does Yanwen not update very often? it's stuck in "processing information input" for a couple days for me
I wonder if you are 1327 or we literally have the same number 😂
Oh my b 1376 is me
I feel like 3rd party sites give you better updates
This one’s my go to
Im surprised retro game corps didnt compare it to the v90 and anbernic clams.
It’s honestly so small and cute only the funkey can compare
looks like mine left china
I will humbly request that everyone stop enjoying their shipping notifications until mine has shipped, thank you 
whoops didn't mean to reply
i hope someone updates the handheld size comparison website so we can compare all the clams and stuff
66.5mm wide
67.8mm long
24.3mm thick closed
126.4mm long open
Bottom is 17mm thick
Top is 7.4mm thick

