#Miyoo Mini FLIP - A smaller Miyoo Flip

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fresh spade
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Mini Flip hinge going in Flip is the “plan” as well according to Miyoo.

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Didn’t people already get messages?

wet moth
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I had taxes applied, think it said about $15 or something. I have no email confirmation to check but the money did go out my account.

ebon moat
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what message? all i have is a order confirmation.

fresh spade
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And I told them that you all hope they honor the orders or will cancel. So… 🤷🏻‍♂️ Plus this will be available on Ali soon. We are all just excited.

remote rapids
fresh spade
shut pulsar
fresh spade
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I also told them… AGAIN… to do translucent colors and that people will buy it more than the current colors and that we won’t think it’s ugly. I’m trying to convince them.

fresh spade
shut pulsar
fresh spade
mental lagoon
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I want translucent

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Its my favorite

magic pewter
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I'd want either orange or the teal that the rg35xxplus did

tawny peak
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No email yet but when I manage to look my order up, I see this so far

ebon moat
magic pewter
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I think i was one of the first orders, i got both paypal and miyoo confirmation emails almost instantly

dull patrol
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Ok just got an email finally, asking to confirm address for the order 🤞 for free delivery still

ebon moat
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maybe they decided not to push it with asking people to pay the shipping and taxes if they realized people would start cancelling their orders?

dull patrol
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🤷🏻‍♂️ just was generic email saying please confirm address to allow us to process your order

clever lotus
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still no email here, I just want to know if they are going to honor the order or not, given the weirdness of the whole thing

tardy wing
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Got a confirmation email for my 2nd order that happened about an hour in with shipping, still nothing for the first order

dense basin
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I preordered a grey one

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WHEN

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DEVICE PLS

austere ginkgo
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Unexpectedly, I finally have ordered a Mini Flip. A black one. I have hesitated with a yellow because I was not able to decide whether the color was more "canary" or defenitely "mustard". Now I have to curate my ROM list to accomodate the weak CPU, hoping that my unit will stand a mild overclock and the screen doesn't show light bleed.

dull patrol
daring arrow
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The yellow here is way more appealing imo

dull patrol
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Not quite bright yellow. Yellow with a hint of red

granite matrix
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from their video. it looks better than any previous miyoo yellow

dull patrol
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Yeah def looks better in those pics

dawn jasper
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If it gets cancelled I’ll wait. I’m not paying $70 for a $40 device.

granite matrix
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miyoo flip v2 has been getting less than $50 pretty often now

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shipped US local

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size isnt the same but you get more CFW options and portmaster

daring arrow
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I kinda wish this had the 3566 instead of what the og had

granite matrix
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yeah that and the price is what unsold me

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i havent used mmy miyoo flip v2 in years

daring arrow
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The 34xxSP basically replaced the miyoo flip for me

ebon moat
kind solar
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litnxt updated price to 69.99 rough

signal dragon
echo seal
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paypal statement, i didn't get a confirmation of any kind tho, checkout page just kind of loaded indefinitely too so nothing on the site

granite matrix
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UFO50 and VHR doesnt look too bad stretched

clever lotus
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Miyoo gonna Miyoo I guess

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it was too much to expect a smooth launch

daring arrow
echo seal
tawny peak
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Not sure if anyone else experienced this when ordering but I used gpay and it said continue on the miyoo site, I figured it meant it would let you confirm details before submitting your order, but it just finalized everything and ordered. All my details were right but I wasn’t quite ready to submit the order.

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Haven’t gotten charged for shipping yet so, if it’s canceled on me, I likely won’t go through with the order

daring arrow
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It's the same thing for PayPal

runic bane
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Wait you guys got free shipping?.meme

granite matrix
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miyoo does advertise for free... not free shipping though

runic bane
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Shipping was like $28 to canada last night. $104 total.

daring arrow
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Like I paid exactly USD $52.99 for mine

runic bane
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I checked a little after 11pm est i think

daring arrow
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Yea mine was within the first 10 minutes

runic bane
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I think that was shortly after launch right? They said 8pm pst?

daring arrow
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Hmm

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Maybe it was just the US then

tawny peak
runic bane
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Im willing to wait. My mint rg35 is tucked away in my drawer.
I play my v90 more than my pocket3+ and rg35...lmao

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I may sell the rg35, too chonk, too noise

tawny peak
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While I get the engineering of the hinge likely cost a bit, would’ve been nice to see a lower initial cost though considering how cheap the a30 tends to go for and it has slightly more power

clever lotus
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now I regret not going for two lol

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didn't know free shipping was a ticking bomb

daring arrow
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I kinda figured it wasn't normal cause Free Shipping would've been something they 100% advertised

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So I bought one the moment I saw it was free

brazen dome
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They told me they were willing to eat the shipping cost for some of the early orders

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"Hello, I believe you received the email. Just to confirm, #Miyoo1622
#Miyo01014, our boss is willing to cover the unpaid shipping costs for some orders. Do you want both consoles or cancel one of them?"

Since yesterday they told.me.to.orfer again, so I did.

clever lotus
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neat

dull patrol
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No purchase necessary 🤣

haughty steppe
magic pewter
daring arrow
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Sent them an email just to confirm my shipping address just in case

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Now I wait

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If they ask me to cancel, then I'll just wait to order when it reaches something like Amazon I dunno

dull patrol
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Blurred out order number

blazing brook
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Did you buy yours the instant they dropped

dull patrol
blazing brook
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Ah ok, haven't gotten that email and I bought it pretty instantly so I was wondering

dull patrol
visual basalt
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damn no email still

tardy wing
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Yeah I’m not even going to try to fix my first order for a bit. I don’t really mind paying for shipping, I just want to have at least one order in the first shipping wave (which it looks like I have with my 2nd order)

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I’ll give them another day or two to offer options for the 1st order, definitely at least need a refund since both orders already charged

shut pulsar
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Ok, I finally got the confirmed email.

Annoying it took this freaking long, but admittedly can’t blame them when it’s Amazon Web Servers being garbage.

brazen dome
clever lotus
keen edge
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Anyone seen a size comparison with the gkd pixel 2?

leaden temple
inner gust
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Ended up grabbing a Pink and White off the direct site

inner gust
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I feel that! 😄

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Can't wait for my retail rainbow one

high coyote
austere ginkgo
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I'm color blind so I might be wrong but I perceive both colors very differently. As I hate the washed yellow of the Flip, I like the Mini Flip's more "mustard" yellow. Do you beleive that they changed the color, and is the new one indeed more "mustard" ?

reef marlin
mild onyx
reef marlin
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here @austere ginkgo (sorry to tag you kitfox)

austere ginkgo
narrow pawn
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Looks much better

keen edge
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It doesn't have c to c charge support 🥲

wide crescent
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pretty typical with these cheap ass devices

vague cedar
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Ooh that mustard yellow IS really nice 💕

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The paler yellow reminds me of some really old wall socket plates we had in a dinky apartment when I was a kid lmao

stiff ether
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Mini Flip vs RGB30 vs Flip V2

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All "Yellow"

hoary cave
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Medium vs sharp cheddar

vague cedar
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Rgb30 is like standard yellow, not bad. Mini flip is a nice, idk, pikachu yellow haha and the flip2 is like a American cheese

vague cedar
keen edge
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I cancelled my order

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I'll stick to the gkd pixel 2

runic bane
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Im looking to replace my v90 and my rg35

wide crescent
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no bluetooth, no c to c, pretty annoying

runic bane
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Ya theres some hangups

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Is the phenomenon real? Never making a perfect device? Always some loose wire

keen edge
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From what joey says it gets hot af

tardy wing
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Dammit, the c to c thing is very annoying, especially seeing as how the v4 had it

keen edge
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& the battery life seems awful

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Onion os currently doesn't have usbc audio out support

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So with no headphone aux thats really sucks

worldly crag
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its not usb-c audio out
its a fucking aux cable over spare usb-c lanes

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it will only work with the included dongle its probably not even wired as an otg port

hoary cave
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Ok I’m out

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Max zhou deliver us from evil with a 28xxSP

worldly crag
hoary cave
worldly crag
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or usb c to c kek

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basically the only thing the 28xx had was a headphone jack

hoary cave
narrow pawn
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This thing is fuggin adorable… maybe I’ll cop

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Although I keep hearing about Miyoo’s hinge issues

daring arrow
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I can't speak for others but I didn't have an issue with my Flip V1

balmy gulch
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does litnxt or lomiyoo include us tariffs in the price? I’m not sure how tariffs would work for this since they keep changing lol

tall pagoda
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Is there a possibility we can get this without the $20 shipping via an Ali Express vendor with a US Presence ?

daring arrow
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$70 free shipping

midnight shadow
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I got my order confirmation for two flips with no shipping so looks like they will honour it

indigo topaz
austere ginkgo
clever lotus
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still no email 21 hours later

tawny peak
blazing brook
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Me neither

wet scroll
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Finally got the login code I requested yesterday, um, one of 40 probably

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$10 dollar bet says that 2nd batch on Aliexpress will ship faster than our orders

runic bane
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i didnt get an email, but i didnt order so its probably ok

tawny peak
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i hope it doesnt take too long for miyoo to ship them out

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although being in canada, canada post is on strike so mine might take longer regardless

wet scroll
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Or something

tawny peak
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idk anymore, its like they change their mind each week lol

worldly crag
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soon as they're in the shipping network it should pop which end carrier its with (on parcelsapp)
depends what city you're in alot have a bunch of non crappypost options

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if you're rural kinda fucked tho

tawny peak
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yeah i kinda live in the middle of nowhere, not far from bigger cities but its literally a 1 traffic light town lol

fresh spade
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Miyoo will honor free shipping.

tawny peak
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hope thats the case for mine with what im seeing so far

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my buddy near me ordered one but got charged shipping lol

worldly crag
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probably an oops we forgot to charge tariffs for the americans

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havent seen them ask any canadians about a fee adjustment

visual basalt
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thats nice at least, still got no email

ebon moat
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Yay, I saved $55 on shipping and taxes, lol.

lime atlas
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I’ll probably wait for version 2 or 3 — Miyoo already had to replace my Miyoo Flip twice.

fresh spade
daring arrow
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They replied

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Didn't ask me to pay for shipping or to reorder

tawny peak
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That’s shipping out quite fast, hope mine has the same fate lol

tardy wing
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Ive got a postive email for both my orders

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now I wish I had done two different colors lol

haughty steppe
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So some got free shipping and some didn't or won't? 🤨

dull patrol
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I got email from them saying they updated my delivery address to process order. So yeah sounds like free delivery 👍 glad i ordered 2 now

violet smelt
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I got an email asking to reorder, but they will keep valid my Grey unit, and with the first order they will refund the shipping also. I had this problem because with gpay it didn't get my delivery address

stone charm
daring arrow
haughty steppe
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So I wouldn't need to pay those 13 €?

daring arrow
wet scroll
haughty steppe
wide crescent
brisk sand
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miyoo dropping the ball so hard after the mini plus

haughty steppe
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You'll just jave a longer cable, what's the problem :p

brisk sand
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well, for one, if you lose the dongle that's it, you get no headphone out

haughty steppe
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You can buy one relatively cheap

brisk sand
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it's not gonna work, only the included one does

steel coyote
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do we know this for sure already? or maybe wait for some proper reviews?

visual basalt
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finally got my order confirmation lol

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happy to see that miyoo isnt forcing people to reorder

ebon moat
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Finally woke up to 5 expired login codes for logging into their website, lol.

trail mountain
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I don't need any new handheld. And yet I caved in...

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I'm pretty sure it will be as it is for the trimui smart : any non dac usb-c adapter for headphones will work.
There are two "standards" for usb audio : one with DAC and the other without dac. The first one gets a digital signal while the latter gets an analog signal. Obviously they aren' innterchangeable

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You have to be careful when shopping them because it isn't always obvious what the adapters embed on the product descriptions

frank forge
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Price is not good (germany). And i can not ship to czech republic…

visual basalt
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the shipping price sucks everywhere

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tbf

rain nacelle
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When I checked Sweden the other day, it was like €8.70

frank forge
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I wait for BF on Ali… this price is overkill for this (shit) HW…

rain nacelle
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Absolutely

frank forge
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So my MM v4 will be happy 😛

visual basalt
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the funny aws outage power hour super early bird sale was pretty good tho

dawn jasper
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Anyone’s order ship?

steel coyote
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i ordered at launch, still got no confirmation email, but i contacted support and they assured me everything is fine with my order, they are just swamped bc of high order volume.

ebon moat
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the miyoo staff rushing orders

dull patrol
cloud dagger
dull patrol
steel coyote
austere ginkgo
haughty steppe
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at least you have below 70 €, me in Slovenia have 72,73 €

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😅

wide crescent
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why do we often see companies not supporting c to c charging? is it really that expensive to include?

austere ginkgo
# haughty steppe at least you have below 70 €, me in Slovenia have 72,73 €

Still, can't you aford 2.73€ more ? I mean, we - who live in western countries - mostly pay way less for anything, that it would cost to produce by ourselves (if we were *able to in a first place). $66 is what some US companies charge you for a random piece of metal for a bike or a camera. We all should step back a bit.

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What's also nice with a clam, is that you don't need to buy an additional screen protector or case.

high swift
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I’m not sure any of us really know the percentage of domestic sales make up their customer base. If someone has insight, it would be interesting to know!

wide crescent
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why did they put wifi inside then?

high swift
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I don’t have the answer for that. Maybe they surveyed domestic customers on important features. My background is more in UXD than hardware

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I’m also disappointed they left out a 3.5mm jack tho. It makes more sense to disclude a 3.5mm jack if at least bluetooth is included

clever lotus
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also got my order confirmation email, after like 30 hours lol

high swift
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I think if they included a headphone jack, BT, and some translucent / metallic colours, they’d have a home run in the retro handheld market

clever lotus
ebon moat
# high swift It’s not much more expensive. However at scale it is a small difference in cost....

The costs are higher... it's not just the cost of the parts... it make the circuits more complex during development, it requires special firmware and software to handle the negotiation of power(gotta pay someone to develop it)... it needs testing to ensure safety and working properly... If you consider the costs of both hardware, software, and labor needed... it doesn't make sense for a cheap device like these.

signal dragon
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Just got it for $59,50 (€51,24) from Gogamegeek, shipping to France, with the code "JP55" 🙂

wide crescent
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I feel like with propreritary usb-c dongle, usb-a only charging, no bluetooth it shoukd have been cheaper

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okay I'm just gonna shutup now

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way too much nagging about the fuckups

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I am just saying all this cause I was actually legitemately interested in this device, until the deal breakers started pilling up

haughty steppe
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But I'll see if the price on Ali is cheaper I might cancel the pre-order from Litnxt and get it from the first

signal dragon
haughty steppe
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from Litnxt (w/o games) I got the price for 50,17 €

stone charm
rain nacelle
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Just got one myself for the same price

daring arrow
stone charm
dawn jasper
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Joey kept saying the MMF was hot to the touch.

left urchin
brisk sand
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heat from handhelds is really annoying, i understand

ebon moat
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he actually mentioned it getting hot... then a minute or 2 later says... ooh it's because I have it charging, lol

brisk sand
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i watched the whole stream at work, he does say when it's not charging that it's warm

haughty steppe
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...but I'm in EU 🤨

tawny peak
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Finally got my email confirmation, that took a while

ebon moat
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Now we all wait for "2 weeks" for them to start shipping them, lol.

daring arrow
steel coyote
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also just got the confirmation email. ordered right after launch

ebon moat
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so.... we will get the shipped email in 2 weeks... after we receive the device, lol

blazing brook
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Haven't gotten my email yet 🙃

wet scroll
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Me neither

wet scroll
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Ever since Funkey made the Funkey S, I've always wanted a Funkey M. I'm glad Miyoo is finally delivering what I've dreamed of. I hope it doesn't suck lol

tawny peak
split slate
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Hmmm.....Miyoo doesn't ship to Japan?

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I guess I won't be buying this then 😕

tawny peak
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What about a different site like litnxt or gogamegeek?

split slate
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Never tried them before but tbh I'm not comfortable with ordering from drop shippers.

remote rapids
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I can confirm that mine also gets a little warm when not charging

clever lotus
left urchin
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Litnxt gogamegeek and mechdiy are all the same company btw

tawny peak
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The only "issue" I see with them when it comes to the flip is them taking a month to ship them based off what their site says since I assume they don't have them in stock yet. But from other times I've used them all, I've never had any issues.

wet scroll
split slate
wet scroll
split slate
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Hmmm ...🤔

wet scroll
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I actually had to ask them to add Japan because it wasn't there originally. It's why I couldn't get my order in before batch 2

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It seems like they decided to launch their own site without doing any research on how to set it up lol

split slate
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I guess I'll ask on their chat

wet scroll
ebon moat
wet scroll
left urchin
ebon moat
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woohoo, just got another email login code from miyoo from yesterday morning, lol

tawny peak
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I keep getting those too... So much for being only good for 15 minutes lol

ebon moat
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I won't close my browser... if I do I won't be able to get back in, lol.

blazing brook
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For the people that have gotten shipping confirmation emails do y'all have an account with Miyoo or did you checkout without one

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Was wondering if that has any effect

ebon moat
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It isn't a shipping confirmation email. What I got is a purchase confirmation email.

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And yes, I have an account with them. I opened it 2 days before the release to be prepared, lol.

desert sun
blazing brook
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hm

wet scroll
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You can check your order even without an account

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Finally got an order confirmation email

dawn jasper
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Ship it! Ship it!

cloud dagger
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Just got tracking for mine! So seems first batch is going out now.

opal stump
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Anyone who paid via PayPal got email confirmation? I ordered within 2 minutes of the launch and still only have the PayPal payment email 😐

wet scroll
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Yeah I paid by PayPal

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But second batch, preorder

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Got order confirmation

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Like 22 hours later

tardy wing
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my free shipping one has tracking

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wonder if it's too late to cancel my 2nd one

dense basin
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i ordered mine yesterday - is it 1st batch or 2nd batch

daring arrow
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No tracking yet for mine

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Tho I expect it maybe within the next few hours

tardy wing
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for the record, my tracking doesn't actually show anything yet, it looks like it's just had the label generated

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hmm, cancellations per the webpage are supposed to be within 12 hours

wet scroll
daring arrow
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First batch won't say Preorder

solid kayak
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Nice, I got my tracking number with the free shipping 😎

dawn jasper
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Anyone else been playing their original MM in anticipation of?

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I busted out my v4 and started tooling around

tawny peak
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i would be if i didnt sell it lol

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using all my systems (magicx z28, rg405m and trimui brick hammer) trying different stuff on all them

daring arrow
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I kind of want to setup up Allium OS on my old MM+ to prepare for this

left urchin
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Had a small update recently

tawny peak
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Do as @left urchin said, do it! Allium really is amazing!

worldly crag
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order # 1190 in white shipped

wet scroll
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I'm not jealous at all

dense basin
lavish wolf
worldly crag
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1190 but I think they started at 1000

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lowest order I saw was 1016 from a guy waiting for it to go live kek

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plus miyoo sells in batches and they rarely have more than 1-200 of each color

drowsy rain
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Mine just shipped as well (Grey)

fresh spade
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FYI on FW

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My order 1033 (black) shipped.

opal stump
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Just got my tracking number for order 1191 in gray

stiff ether
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Why would they not have the latest FW on each of these newer devices mariodead

ebon moat
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Strange, my order 1160 has not shipped yet, maybe they are doing it by color?

tawny peak
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Maybe by country

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I'm 1108 in Canada with no tracking number yet

blazing brook
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Got the shipped email :D

visual basalt
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order 1204, got my tracking number

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lets gooo

blazing brook
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Very cool of them to honor free shipping for the people that sniped it

visual basalt
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i havent gotten a "shipped" email but on my order page theres a tracking number

visual basalt
clever lotus
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got a tracking number on the website

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weirdly, they are shipping with YANWEN, rather than the usual 4PX

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first time I see that shipper used

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order 1163 btw

stiff ether
left urchin
stiff ether
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why.....

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just why....

left urchin
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They have an industrial way of flashing FW to these I’m sure, so they don’t change it once it works and the devices can still be updated

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If it turns on, and can be updated, why go through every box and update them by hand?

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Make the user do that if they want the buttons to work so bad!

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Most users just play with the software anyway, you have to play games to notice the buttons are wonky aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

stiff ether
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yes, because buttons working properly is such a "huge" ask aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

stiff ether
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tbf.........even as a dev........i flashed every CFW from back then until i found 1 that worked. Stock OS = Suck OS

blazing brook
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Spruce to the rescue

tardy wing
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Tracking info seems to be saying my unit is already in the states?

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Basically saying USPS has picked it up in Miami

stiff ether
tardy wing
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If that’s actually real I may have this in hand before the end of the week

stiff ether
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out the gate, Onion Stable & Allium work well enough until then

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allium is like PakUI/NextUI before they even came around. i love it

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its what i defaulted too

ebon moat
stiff ether
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Allium, you wont look back lol

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allium recognizes Wifi & the 560p screen out the box

austere ginkgo
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Under the hood, does it come with the Onion performance optimizations and all additional cores ?

And how is interpolation performed ? Some special recipe or do we rely on RA with Normal2x + Bilinear?

rain nacelle
clever lotus
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got the shipped email now

ebon moat
austere ginkgo
# austere ginkgo Under the hood, does it come with the Onion performance optimizations and all ad...

Answers about Allium

And lid seems to work. Worth a try.

GitHub

A custom launcher for the Miyoo Mini and Miyoo Mini Plus handheld devices - goweiwen/Allium

GitHub

A custom launcher for the Miyoo Mini and Miyoo Mini Plus handheld devices - goweiwen/Allium

left urchin
sage wraith
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Does allium have game switcher like onion?

left urchin
sage wraith
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Sadge

left urchin
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It has a pop up menu like MinUI

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It’s very very very good

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It’s my go to CFW for MMP/MM

magic pewter
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The onion has spoiled. Allium is the future

rain nacelle
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Has the Onion really spoiled?

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Idk what's exactly wrong with it

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It just hasn't updated in forever

ebon moat
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not spoiled... but it needs an update for lid close/open

magic pewter
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Is onion open source?

left urchin
left urchin
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That’s a weird way to look at things

magic pewter
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It was a joke, sorry

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Do either onion or allium support homebrew apps or something similar?

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I know a couple os's have toolchains for cross compilation, or if it's as simple as using an arm one

daring arrow
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Shipping email got sent

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Just the label creation tho, doesn't look like they've picked it up

fresh spade
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Things like text scrolling and themes and other. Onion is a heavily modified stock OS with its own toolset and optimizations. It’s not a full ground up and therefore bound to Mini/MMP/Mini Flip

magic pewter
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Ahh, that makes sense. Ive been working on an OS based on Batocera for some of the other devices, so I've been used to buildroot

fresh spade
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MinUI/Allium on the other hand are full custom and not using stock MainUI

fresh spade
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Even Onion is sluggish (probably because MainUI) compared to those two.

magic pewter
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I'm working on my own UI for mine, though mainly focused on boot time, simplicity and a music player. I'm not sure what devices I'll be able to support yet, though currently targeting rk3566

daring arrow
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Allium is pretty nice

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Tho I keep forgetting the reason why I stopped using my OG MM+ was because it didn't have RTC

tardy wing
#

I want to say onionOS works with updates on this right? Just doesn’t include anything for the open/close and probably not WiFi either since the origins MM doesn’t have it?

midnight hull
#

Do we have dimensions on this yet?

left urchin
dawn jasper
#

Does Onion differentiate between the old and new mm screens?

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Or do you have to do some work after install?

ebon moat
#

Yes and no. It handles the new screen correctly... but various themes were designed for 640x480(v1-v3 and mm+) and cause graphical glitches on the v4 and the miyoo mini flip because the images are the wrong size instead of being 750x560.

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So not all themes are compatible.

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I have successfully got rid of the glitches by modifying the images in my theme and stretching them to fit the resolution of the v4.

dawn jasper
#

Yeah themes, overlays and borders are probably a pain because v4 is the minority of owners. Maybe with the flip it will become the more common screen.

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I also don't have RTC on my MMv4.. Wondering if the flip will have it.

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Surely

ebon moat
#

The flip has RTC somebody mentioned.

brazen dome
#

so tey cancelled the one that i paid shipping for and refunded me, and are shipping the one that i didnt pay shipping for.... but the one i didnt pay shipping for has the wrong shipping address still it seems. so lets see what happens next ......

plush flame
#

Any size comparisons for this vs RG28xx and RG Nano

dense basin
#

So wait - what's Allium and how does it compare to Onion?

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My original mmv4 has Onion and i loved it but it obviously won't have the lid close sleep mode or probably some other bugfixes that'll be needed so i'm wondering how to upgrade

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and can i just say how happy i am to live in the timeline where Miyoo made the Mini and the Flip Mini

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and the community around them made such amazing custom content

daring arrow
#

The clean UI and the general presentation

tawny peak
#

Allium ftw

daring arrow
#

But it doesn't use MinArc and uses full RetroArch so you have the settings from that

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Has a lot of QoL stuff borrowed / reimplemented from onion os too like the bicubic scaling from that

mild onyx
#

Woop finally got my tracking, ordered about 30 mins after launch, just before they fixed the free shipping issue

dawn jasper
#

Shipping confirmation on black.

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Shipping via... Yanwen?

daring arrow
#

Yea Yanwen

dawn jasper
#

I loved MinUI back in the day. Will have to try Allium.

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So crazy that this hardware is still persisting after all this time.

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Just a solid little setup for 2D retro on the go.

stiff ether
#

Allium is love on this Mini Flip

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I wish I knew

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Only thing I wish it had, like Onion, was the Ports

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Outside of that, it's amazing

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Perfect

ebon moat
#

Considering the new release of Allium... might even be nice to install on the v4 again, lol.

stiff ether
#

I love having that MinUI style with Box Art, WiFi, and Speed/Snappiness/560p

fresh spade
daring arrow
fresh spade
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Just wanted to give props as it’s well done and completely written in its own language and not a fork.

fresh spade
#

Allium has lived in the Onion shadow for years. It’s nice to see it get some eyes on it lately. I also think the community has turned a corner and embraced choice and preference for OS/UI use vs the echo chamber of days past. 😎👍

river ferry
#

bring on the sprig supremacy

fresh spade
#

But remember… Play games, Not UI.

stiff ether
#

Allium makes playing faster and Easier

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PakUi for Mini Flip when kek

fresh spade
#

Never

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Plenty of options already

tardy wing
#

I love minUi on pretty much every non-android device, the only thing really keeping me on onion for my MM+ and for what I gave to friends as gifts was the suspend/resume game switcher. That’s a huge deal

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That said, I’m probably going Allium this time around since the game switcher and auto saving isn’t as necessary for me

fresh spade
blazing brook
#

Does Allium do hinge sleep on this/is it planned?

fresh spade
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Hinge support added yesterday

tardy wing
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Sure, but I’d prefer to just stick to save states. Was more stating how seamless onion makes things work for people who don’t really use emulators regularly

blazing brook
#

I'm sold

fresh spade
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I can toss a device set up and give no tutorial with those.

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Remembering hotkeys for a new and casual user is a nightmare

dull patrol
#

Still nothing for me. No shipping. Ordered 20 mins after launch. But i did order 2 which is what i think could be the problem

fresh spade
daring arrow
#

You can just turn it off like I did tho

ebon moat
#

Does Allium have syncthing?

dull patrol
ebon moat
#

I sent them an email to ask about the shipping, 5 hours ago, no response yet.

dull patrol
#

Yeah i think Aliexpress may have been easier 😅

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Ah well frog_shrug

ebon moat
#

True, but we will supposedly have them faster since they are not going to open Aliexpress to sales until the end of the month.

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That is why I took the risk, to get my hands on them sooner.

austere ginkgo
#

Does Myioo ship the Mini Flip with good quality CD cards ? I have heavilly curated my collection to fit up to PS1 and taking the control limitations in ro account, plus narrowing to almost zero every redundancy by only keeping the definitive versions of games. And it appears that my collection should fit a 64GB card !

stiff ether
#

None of these companies ship with good quality cards

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Always supply your own

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You can Buy cheap Multi Packs of them on Amazon from Brands like:

PNY, Patriot, Team Group, Lexar, Silicone Power

Just make sure they are A1 cards, this will at least give you 100mbs Read/Write Speeds

misty shore
#

I would literally never trust a Miyoo stock SD card with any data you’d be sad to lose

austere ginkgo
#

Back to Allium, is there something that would help to sync saves ?

tardy wing
tardy wing
trail mountain
#

I am order #2030. Supposedly second batch order 30?

ebon moat
#

Nope

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The numbers are probably randomized a little to make it harder to guess. But the numbers are incremental.

trail mountain
#

Well, all I know is I am on the preorder wagon. Anyway I ordered about 48 hours after the fact

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I have had an eye on Allium for a while. But I stayed true to MinUI

tawny peak
#

Hoping mine ships sooner than later, a buddy of mine ordered after me and already has his being shipped while mine is still stuck on confirmed

daring arrow
#

First batch won't have anything under the Color

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Second batch will say Pre-order

trail mountain
#

Yes, it does way so. Hence my knowing of me being on the preorder wagon

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But I made an assumption as to say that #2030 could be in the 2xxx because of the second barch thing

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Apparently not

fresh spade
ebon moat
# trail mountain Apparently not

There are 2 possibilities... they sold 1000 units between the 19th and the 22nd... or you are right and the 2xxx is the second batch... I think both are possible.

fresh spade
#

Anyone else have two different tracking numbers?

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I have two emails. Different numbers. Both shipped Yanwen.

misty shore
fresh spade
#

I have 3 Bricks going. 2 with nice cards and one with freebie. Mini Flip 2 cards. I have no idea why I’m using these crap cards though.

ebon moat
#

This reminds me... I need to pick up a TrimUI brick and a miyoo A30, lol.

fresh spade
#

I also have a black A30.

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With all black buttons of course. DM me if interested

ebon moat
#

While I am interested, I am not in the US. I am in Chile, south america.

fresh spade
#

Bummer.

ebon moat
#

It's cool. Thanks for the offer anyway.

cloud dagger
split slate
# split slate I guess I'll ask on their chat

I asked them if they ship to Japan, and told them that Japan is not in the list with a screenshot. They just replied "Yes we ship to Japan", but it's still not added to the list. doggylol

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I guess the free shipping thing is gone now?

stiff ether
#

MinUI style, with Box Art, WiFi, 560p screen Recognition, more Emulators supported, faster Boot Up time than Onion, No Ports (I miss that from Onion)

Same NDS performance, Same Ps1 Performance, same Sleep Functionality

No Game Switcher

visual basalt
#

no ports? 🥀

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pico8 should work tho cuz thats just an app right

narrow kite
#

It'd be nice if this hits aliexpress in time for their 11.11 sale. I'd like to see a few reviews and stress tests before jumping on one. I'd gladly pay $40ish after a coupon for one of these puppies.

visual basalt
manic saddle
#

i think my order is 1330, and i just thought since it's so orderly that was the product code or something 😅

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happy to be on the bleeding edge for one of these

wet scroll
ebon moat
tawny peak
#

Go figure, tracking number doesn't arrive so I contact miyoo support and they say I needed a phone number for the order... Would've been nice if they had asked for it sooner rather than just not shipping the order.

fresh spade
tawny peak
fresh spade
tawny peak
#

For years I've been searching for a device that will bring me the same kind of joy as my old og pocketgo. Needs to be small and handle games well but I have yet to find something that fits my needs perfectly. Many have come close, but nothing has filled that void yet.

split slate
visual basalt
wet scroll
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Hmm, I mean I've ordered about 5 handhelds to Japan and I've never had a problem

split slate
wet scroll
#

They asked me if it's okay to delay my order RIP 🥲

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Now what am I gonna do, play retro games on my other 30 handhelds?

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Maybe I'll buy an ugly pink one from Litnxt and hope sakura retro mods makes some nice buttons to replace the fleshy abominations Miyoo chose

visual basalt
#

they shoulda done white buttons on the pink one

tawny peak
#

Pink with black buttons would be an interesting combination, or with purple

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Or both

wet scroll
#

honestly would look sick with black buttons

trail mountain
#

Add minui to the list of supported CFW

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(Hinge included)

left urchin
left urchin
worldly crag
#

@tawny peak oh I forgot got tracking number and its flagged as going to a local courior PDN Express not crappy post so hopefully it works out for you

violet smelt
#

so my order 1039 placed after 1 minute from launch, has been refunded. The one I placed after the grey was sold out, but the one I placed in the first place, has been shipped yesterday. After I reminded them that they told me they will refund also the shipping on the second order, they actually did it today! So win win for me I suppose, I will get the unit I wanted and with no shipping

austere ginkgo
#

My order is 18XX so not that far from @fresh spade
Since I won’t be home the following 2 weeks, I’ve asked to delay my order a bit and get a 2nd batch instead. Some optimizations beeing included in the 2nd batch, better this way.

wet scroll
#

Miyoo just emailed every address that ordered a Miyoo Mini Flip to Japan by CC. So we all know each others email addresses now lol

magic pewter
#

Oh crap i think mine is in the states now!

worldly crag
#

they're really fucking up this running their own store now thing doggylol

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seriously is ali's fees that much worse than running a shopify site

wet scroll
#

Yeah, I'm just waiting for everyone to start hitting reply-all

narrow kite
fierce briar
clever lotus
#

well, time to create a Japanese Miyoo fan telegram channel

cloud dagger
#

Does anybody know if there is an Allium discord or resources beyond the github page? I was trying to setup a card using my MM in anticipation of the Mini Flip. However, it did not populate any folders within the ROMs folders and I am not sure of the format/naming that is expected for the folder structures.

daring arrow
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Example is I use
Gameboy Advance (GBA)
Which shows up as just
Gameboy Advance

cloud dagger
#

Okay, is there a full list of those. GBA makes sense but is it FC or NES, SFC or SNES, etc? Or is it identical to what MinUI uses?

daring arrow
#

I know (SNES) works

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I don't have NES on my system sorry

cloud dagger
#

Thank you!

sage wraith
misty shore
sage wraith
wheat ridge
#

i'm getting it on an sd card to test now

sage wraith
#

actually a todo list im keeping in local for myself, added to gitignore temporarily so I can just be lazy and git add . instead of specifying each file lol

wheat ridge
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oh, i usually keep some MD files with claude so I thought you did that as well haha

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you can add to .git/info/exclude instead of .gitignore if you want a local ignore

ebon moat
#

As long as you use this list here, you should be able to create the folders with the names you want.

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So for example "Pokemon Rom Hacks (GBA)" would be able to launch with the GBA emulator.

left urchin
wheat ridge
#

thank you @left urchin

sage wraith
#

oh snap weiwen youre the Allium dev

ebon moat
#

I think a link to these things should be in the README... had to do some searching and digging to find it.

wheat ridge
sage wraith
#

caught in 4k contributing to both CFWs lmao

left urchin
sage wraith
left urchin
wheat ridge
#

after installation, boot logo appears and then black screen

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keymon doesn't respond anymore I think, have to force reboot

sage wraith
ebon moat
#

Installing Allium on my v4 now while I am still waiting on my miyoo mini flip. 😁

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But I noticed that it doesn't detect my v4 correctly... shows the wrong screen resolution.

wheat ridge
ebon moat
#

anything I can do to help you debug it?

wheat ridge
#

just reporting it is enough, thanks. but I won't be able to fix it that soon

ebon moat
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I am not worried, was just wanting to try it out, I have only used OnionOS so far on it.

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But I hear it is the strongest one so far on the new flip, so wanted to give it a wirl.

cloud dagger
ebon moat
#

@wheat ridge I am very impressed. Games launch so quickly compared to OnionOS.

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how are the scripts called? I think I can inject the syncthing binary and get a script in there to start syncthing when wifi comes up.

left urchin
#

@wheat ridge Chris Cromer does syncthing for spruce btw 😉

wheat ridge
#

if you can get syncthing bundled with the .so that it needs then adding in another config option is easy

ebon moat
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will be easy, syncthing is static compiled, shouldn't have to worry about any .so files

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and I already created 2 scripts

wheat ridge
#

can you try running it via telnet or terminal?

ebon moat
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the v4 doesn't have wifi... would have to wait on my dev unit mini flip which is on its way

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I have a way to test though, I can modify my ftp-on.sh and have it turn on syncthing so I can try everything out

wheat ridge
#

how will you test syncthing if you don't have wifi?

ebon moat
#

just test that it launches, creates the config files, etc

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testing the syncing mechanism will have to wait

wheat ridge
#

wifi settings only show up if you're on MM+ or MMF 😂

#

but you can run it via the terminal in Apps, it should work

ebon moat
#

ahhh, then I am blocked till my dev unit gets here then

wheat ridge
#

just have to type with the keypad

ebon moat
#

syncthing generates a database and config file, where should I store those in Allium?

wheat ridge
#

if Onion/MinUI already have a common location, we can use the same one

ebon moat
#

will take a look and see where they store it

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or not... now that I remember syncthing is a 3rd party app, not included with onionos

wheat ridge
#

I guess /mnt/SDCARD/.syncthing is fine

ebon moat
#

the onion os app stores it in /mnt/SDCARD/App/Syncthing/config/

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and logs in /mnt/SDCARD/App/Syncthing/serve.log

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They have it as an app for a different reason though... when you run the app, it injects code into onion's runtime.sh to embed syncthing on start/shutdown

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that won't be necessary here since it can be officially included

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so /mnt/SDCARD/.syncthing sounds like a good place in that case

wheat ridge
#

ah i guess the migration is not that simple; the database still doesn't have the latest autosave screenshot

#

can we default to the game cover if theres no screenshot then?

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and also the recents carousell is missing button hints, you can copy them over from the recents list

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the numbers (x/x) is also overlapping with the title when I have a long app name, I think we can remove that

sage wraith
wheat ridge
#

oops, wrong chat

left urchin
#

People will screw it up on the install

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Then complain that ST don’t work

ebon moat
#

True... although the saying goes "even if I build it idiot proof, the world is just going to build a better idiot", lol

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there are already 2 other hidden folders on Allium... .allium and .tmp_update...

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I don't see having a 3rd be any different

trail mountain
#

It's not idiocy, it's "creativity"

red merlin
#

MinUI already updated for this 🥺 what a legend.

Have to wait until I’m home from vacation end of November to order this though 😱

carmine cradle
#

In case anyone wants to try koriki 1.6 on the device, delete the file RESIZED from the root of microsd before the put this inside of the console in the first boot.

misty shore
carmine cradle
#

Retroarch 1.21.0 rewritten to prevent image distortion on 752*560 displays

tawny peak
#

Man, the flip keeps looking better and better, can’t wait for mine to ship and arrive now

carmine cradle
#

All I have to do is adapt the selector overlay app to the new data and that's it.

#

Gba gamelink

ebon moat
left urchin
misty shore
#

But yeah obviously up to weiwen at the end of the day

fierce briar
#

I’m doing away with hidden folders on my new projects, instead just modifying nand to check for a main.sh at the root of the SD card (and falling back to stock behavior if it doesn’t exist). I don’t think I’ll update MinUI to do this but that’s how I’m planning to do things going forward.

carmine cradle
sage wraith
left urchin
#

Might send them a message

sage wraith
left urchin
#

I highly recommend reaching out to them

sage wraith
#

I don’t have a flip myself yet so I don’t know how valid this is, just taking queues from how Allium and min ui have added support

left urchin
#

@/aemiii91 is on this server for sure

sage wraith
#

So hesitant to bring something to them maybe bunk

left urchin
#

I’m sure they wouldn’t turn down some help

left urchin
#

Your wanting to help them, I’m certain they wouldn’t turn you down

sage wraith
#

Ok I’d still like someone to verify it boots and reads lid before I present to them

left urchin
#

I’m gonna test Koriki in a few minutes here, I’ll try your fork after

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Sorry @misty shore aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

tawny peak
#

@left urchin get some pics of how koriki looks, never seen that cfw lol

austere ginkgo
#

I have finally finished to curate a super optimized library for the Mini Flip. Games all fit on a 64GB card. From Vectrex to NDS. I've tried to take into account controls, performance and avoid redundancies by only keeping definitive versions. Plus english patches applied to the best japanese games, and a few necessary hacks. When I've started, I didn't think that it would take me like a day work !!

stiff ether
rain nacelle
#

I think MinUI dev of Miyoo Mini stopped before the V4 came out

fresh spade
sage wraith
austere ginkgo
fresh spade
blazing brook
#

Shaun when the Mini Flip dropped

fresh spade
clever cobalt
#

Any side by side size comparisons with the 35xxSP? frog_think

rain nacelle
clever cobalt
#

Or an original sp?

rain nacelle
#

I've seen one with a Miyoo Flip, which is close enough in size to the original SP

blazing brook
#

Tenlevels took a lot of comparison pics if you go to Search in this channel

fresh spade
#

I purged my Discord when I thought I was leaving. Sorry.

clever cobalt
#

Ah. Probably too small just to play at home once in a while with old man eyes.

blazing brook
#

If you ever had a Miyoo Mini the screen is the same size

clever cobalt
#

I haven't, but I do have a 35 SP so I'll just stick with that.

blazing brook
#

Can't really go wrong with the 35sp

left urchin
#

@carmine cradle

blazing brook
#

Oh wow

#

Koriki is a name I haven't heard in a MINUTE

visual basalt
carmine cradle
#

yes

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but only for 2 o 3 games for now

#

actual link cable support

sage wraith
carmine cradle
austere ginkgo
daring arrow
#

750x560

daring arrow
#

Unless my googling is wrong

carmine cradle
daring arrow
#

I see

#

I need to redesign some overlays I'm making then lol

sage wraith
remote rapids
left urchin
#

@sage wraith it boots 👢

remote rapids
left urchin
#

@sage wraith the lid does NOT work

#

and the main menu theme isnt right

#

and.......

#

its bugged out now lol

#

i recomend you talk to the onion devs if you want to continue working one this

sage wraith
sage wraith
sage wraith
left urchin
#

i think some of them are in this server

#

some for sure in RGH server

left urchin
sage wraith
#

No worries thanks for the tests

#

Btw did you happen to go to the menu to set power button behavior there should have been a lid close behavior toggle

remote rapids
left urchin
remote rapids
left urchin
remote rapids
visual basalt
#

thats cool as shit tho

#

link cable support is something ive been waiting for for a while

tawny peak
#

Finally have a tracking number

sage wraith
sage wraith
ebon moat
austere ginkgo
#

@left urchin Great that you are currently adding documentation to Allium !! If you need ideas about what to add :

  • File structure and gamelist for Boxart
  • Ports
  • PrBoom
  • BIOS files organization if different from Onion (flat as RA, or nested by platform)
  • How to update
    And of you need ideas about what to implement:
  • Syncthing
  • Syncthing
  • Syncthing
austere ginkgo
#

MagicX will release videos of their new One35 today. Does someone have a Mini and a RG35XXH or Ayaneo Micro (roughly same size) and could post pictures of both ? Including width comparison because thickness matters a lot for pocketability.

rain nacelle
#

I have an RG35xxH

austere ginkgo
#

Please … 🙏

rain nacelle
#

I'm not entirely sure what it is you're actually asking from me

#

Do you want comparison pics of the MMF and 35xxH?

#

Since the One35 isn't that far off the 35xxH?

austere ginkgo
#

A picture with both side by side, to compare size.

rain nacelle
#

Ah okay

#

Now I get it

austere ginkgo
#

Also thickness.

rain nacelle
#

Unfortunately, my Miyoo Flip Mini hasn't even shipped yet

#

So I only have the 35xxH

austere ginkgo
#

Sad… but thanks.

left urchin
austere ginkgo
#

So, closed, the Flip is 53% of the One35 volume. Absolutely no contest even for me who value slimness over volume for pocketability.

#

And the Flip's screen is 55% of the global top surface and a 29% screen/surface ratio (opened). That's 33% for the One35, which can't close, obviously.

#

(if I did calculate correctly)

austere ginkgo
#

The screen/surface ratio is meaningless for a flip. But if the overall volume difference was smaller, the Flip beeing thicker, I probably would have chosen the One35 over the Flip. It may sound like apple and oranges for some, but it makes sense to me regarding my very own needs/wishes.

clever lotus
austere ginkgo
#

The CPU is very weak obviously, but if you curate very carefuly and just don't blindly follow top lists, it is amazing how many wonderful games you can play with such a weak device. I don't feel that I loose so much because of the power, all things considered.

visual basalt
narrow pawn
#

Dpad looks very stiff and hard to press diagonals

visual basalt
#

good

clever lotus
stiff ether
#

Half way between Miyoo Flip V2 & 35xxSP V2

visual basalt
#

has there been anything from the onion devs about supporting the mini flip?

stiff ether
#

Onion Devs got their Devices, and like them. Other than that, nothing

#

But that is usually a good sign

visual basalt
ebon moat
#

A very good sign, devs usually work on what they love. If they didn't like the new device... they wouldn't develop for it.

visual basalt
#

if they have them now then maybe we can expect an onion os update soon

austere ginkgo
visual basalt
stiff ether
#

Oh, then yes. I wasn't told I was allowed to say anything yet. But if RGC made it public already, then yes. They are working on it

visual basalt
#

sure, ape escape wont work

#

but it plays ps1 games very well performance wise

austere ginkgo
visual basalt
#

i just put two and two together

#

oops

ebon moat
stiff ether
#

Whoops

visual basalt
#

but anyways lol if they have their units then thats great, this device seems pretty nice and onion os with clamshell support would make it damn near perfect

stiff ether
#

I'm sticking with Allium til Spruce is ready...

visual basalt
#

allium looks cool but no ports or syncthing is a huge miss

ebon moat
visual basalt
#

atleast for me

stiff ether
visual basalt
#

yeah makes sense

ebon moat
stiff ether
#

I'm the Config junkie who can tweak shit kek

visual basalt
#

does the pico8 wrapper work on the v4 screen?

visual basalt
austere ginkgo
# visual basalt brother thats a ps2 game

What about Alien Resurrection, Medal of Honor, Syphon Filter, Quake II, GT2, Ace Combat, Colony Wars, Armored Core, Apocalypse, Soul Reaver, Tomb Raider III, MechWarrior 2, MDK, Descent, G-PoliceFear Effect, Populous, Sled Storm, RC Stunt Copter ?

stiff ether
#

Did I just understand that he lost all reason not to use Allium soon? doggylol

visual basalt
#

and it has clam shell support

#

gotteem

austere ginkgo
# visual basalt what about peggle

What I mean is that I was expecting way more games not playing fine on the Mini, and I was afraid to remove much more from my library to fit the device. These are actually quite all I had to remove, which was surprisingly few to me. Of course, way more have to be removed from NDS due to the small single screen, but it is amazing to play NDS in a first place.

austere ginkgo
trail mountain
stiff ether
# trail mountain You have a curated list of DS games you can play on these?

##Non Touchscreen DS Games##

  • Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
  • Advance Wars: Dual Strike
  • Aliens: Infestation
  • Asphalt: Urban GT
  • Assassin's Creed II: Discovery
  • Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
  • Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
  • Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
  • Contra 4
  • Dragon Quest 4/5/6/9
  • Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime! *
  • Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 1/2
  • Etrian Odyssey 1/2/3
  • Final Fantasy III
  • Final Fantasy IV
  • Final Fantasy Tactics: Advance 2
  • Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
  • Game Center CX: Arino no Chousenjou 2
  • Geometry Wars: Galaxies
  • Infinite Space
  • Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days
  • Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded
  • Kirby: Super Star Ultra
  • Kirby: Squeak Squad
  • The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
  • The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
  • Lunar Knights
  • MegaMan series
  • Mario Kart DS
  • New Super Mario Bros.
  • N+
  • Mega Man ZX
  • Metal Slug 7
  • Metroid Prime Pinball
  • Phantasy Star 0
  • Phoenix Wright series
  • Pokemon: Black/White
  • Pokemon: Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
  • Pokemon: HeartGold/SoulSilver
  • Radiant Historia
  • Retro Game Challenge
  • Rune Factory 3
  • Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
  • Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2
  • Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
  • Solatorobo: Red the Hunter
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows
  • Suikoden Tierkreis
  • Super Mario 64 DS *
  • Tetris DS *
  • Trace Memory
  • Trackmania DS
  • Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume

(*) Include optional touchscreen-reliant modes or components, such as separate mini-games.

Sources:

austere ginkgo
# trail mountain You have a curated list of DS games you can play on these?

That's what I've selected so far. But I don't have the device. Just a Beta list.

7th Dragon (Japan) [T-En USA by Pokeytax]
Advance Wars - Days of Ruin (USA) (En,Fr,Es)
Aliens - Infestation (Europe) (En,Fr,De)
Aperture Science (World)
Castlevania - Dawn of Sorrow (USA) [Hack No Required Touch Screen]
Castlevania - Order of Ecclesia (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Castlevania - Portrait of Ruin (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Cave Story (World)
Chrono Trigger (Europe) (En,Fr)
Dragon Quest IV - The Chapters of the Chosen (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Dragon Quest V - Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Dragon Quest VI - Realms of Revelation (USA) (En,Fr,Es)
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 - Grimoire of the Rift (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es)
Fire Emblem - New Mystery of the Emblem (Japan) [T-En by The Heroes of Shadow]
Fire Emblem - Shadow Dragon (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Ghost Trick - Phantom Detective (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Mega Man ZX (Europe) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It)
Mega Man ZX - Advent (Europe) (En,Ja,Fr,De,Es,It)
Might & Magic - Clash of Heroes (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It)
Newer Super Mario Bros. DS (World)
Pokemon - Version Argent SoulSilver (France)
Pokemon - Version Or HeartGold (France)
Radiant Historia (USA)
Retro Game Challenge (USA)
Shin Megami Tensei - Strange Journey (USA)
Soma Bringer (Japan) [T-En by DarthNemesis]

I'm french, hence the versions. But you get the idea. I want very minimal screen switches and I am very conservative and picky. So no touch thing and very unuseful information on the second, if any.

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Since there are other systems, if there are good versions of a title with just one screen, then it will not appear here. I include Arcade as well on my SD card so the question of the "definitive" version is quite often quickly solved when it comes to action games.

austere ginkgo
dawn jasper
austere ginkgo
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Perhaps you can change. I used to order black initially, and then switched to Yellow after realizing the if was not the same yellow as Filp2's.

dawn jasper
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I can always order a second or a third 🙂

stiff ether
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It's where I have it saved rhlove

dawn jasper
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Ye old tech

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Carving it into stone now.

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I wish my notes app used markdown.

clever lotus
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it's weird that discord doesn't have a favorites or boomarks feature

frank cedar
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Considering buying the new Miyoo Mini Flip but my main gripe is the smaller screen...I feel like 3.5in displays are about as small as I'd want to go as it is, but I love the idea of a very small EDC handheld...hmm. Thoughts?

blazing brook
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If 3.5 is the smallest you can justify then the 35xxSP is there, this would probably be too small

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This is like 20% smaller

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Oh wait it literally is 20%, 3.5 to 2.8 lol

dawn jasper
austere ginkgo
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A 2.8" 4:3 screen is 57x43mm while a 3.5" is 71x53mm. So, the 2.8" screen is actually 35% smaller in mm2. That's significantly smaller.

frank cedar
dawn jasper
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I was playing the RG Nano for a while because of its portability. Playing GB and GBC on it was no problem but this thing looks like it will blow that out of the water. Should be able to play GBA on the Flip no problems.

sage wraith
native eagle
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do yall think the dome switches mean i would use this as little as i use my brick and i should keep waiting for an ultraportable that actually works as an mp3 player?

or is this really the great leap in EDC that the brick hype suggested

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the brick is not too small for me but i do not like its face buttons one bit and it never felt right to chuck in my bag without a case. this solves one of those issues?

tawny peak
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What doesn’t feel right on them?

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I put some tape over my switches to dampen them and make them more quiet and softer, not sure if that would be something you could try?

native eagle
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too much resistance, too convex, don’t remember if i found them too loud

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which handheld did the tape mod help with? a miyoo or a brick?

tawny peak
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That tape mode might help? I personally like how it feels and sounds now, and it’s not permanent

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And I did it with my brick

native eagle
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i did the shave n tape with my RPMini but i think i hella prefer membrane to start with

tawny peak
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If I weren’t sick and bed ridden, I’d take it apart to show it, although I can maybe get a video showing the noise(or lack there of) it makes now

native eagle
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no worries, i trust yr experience. i’ll be selling my brick anyway, i think gamehub vs portmaster, foldersync vs syncthing has made me certain ill stick with android against linux for handhelds going forward. but these tiny ones are so appealing as an edge case

tawny peak
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If you want an interesting and fairly powerful mini sized device, the magicx mini zero 28

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2.8” screen, runs android and handles DC and N64 surprisingly well with wifi on board too

trail mountain
trail mountain
native eagle
# tawny peak

yeah it always looked super cool! I think i’m out of the minis market unless it’s something extra cute and tiny like this new one tho (love that pink colorway)

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wait whoah i forgot it’s android

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that’s wild

dawn jasper
misty shore
ebon moat
native eagle
sage wraith
ebon moat
sage wraith
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yeah I was working on carousel search and ran make all and then did my usual git add . and saw like 34 files in status lmao

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high time save state screenshots are freed from onion in a switcher

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I wanna see about adding it to MUos too but idk

misty shore
left urchin
dawn jasper
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What kind of screen real estate do we get for each system on this?

austere ginkgo
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Some indicators. Screen-to-body size ratio, as well as a screen-to-body volume index...

trail mountain
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@dawn jasper you can see what system is using what space on the screens for the different ratios, sizes and resolutions

dawn jasper
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Looks like people would mostly play this at non integer other than GBA and Pokemini

daring arrow
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Most people don't care about integer scaling

stiff ether
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Sometimes, you just want to play games and not feel like you are dragging a rock in your pocket

austere ginkgo
daring arrow
normal brook
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Ordered a mini flip!

… and a flip v2 because I couldn’t decide on a size. I was also hoping to get the v2 earlier but since I ordered both directly from Miyoo the order might be tied together

trail mountain
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I even know people who play with stretched ratios... that's were I draw the line

daring arrow
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OG Miyoo Mini doesn't have a GPU

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So no interpolation shaders (or any shaders)

trail mountain
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nope it does not

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I think Onion relies on filters

daring arrow
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Onion (Allium took inspiration as well) has a optimized bicubic scaling algorithm

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So it's decent enough for the screen

ebon moat
austere ginkgo
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And as I like having the adequate PAR for everything, I have to admit that for this 2.8” littlle one, it will be 4:3 SAR for most.

sage wraith
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Allium dev is super cool, working together we just added a save state screenshot based recents menu thats functionally like GameSwitcher on Onion but a fair bit faster too

daring arrow
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That's neat

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I don't like a game auto resuming with auto saves

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But I do like seeing a menu with recent screenshots

sage wraith
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Id like to see the same on MuOS maybe id finally beat some dreamcast games that way

austere ginkgo
sage wraith
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idk how integrated it is yet though

stiff ether
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It was coming in the next update

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He got tagged

dusty eagle
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It has arrived. Wahoo!

clever lotus
dusty eagle
clever lotus
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oh gotcha

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hf 😄

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I need to become a dev some day

dusty eagle
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Got stuck in customs for a while

daring arrow
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looks very cute

misty shore
dawn jasper
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New device that isn’t already entrenched. Pretty good opportunity to latch onto a new OS

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If it’s MinUI meets Onion then I’m here for it.

worldly crag
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its allium time baby kek

empty kernel
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Hey, is there anywhere the firmware for this is hosted? Little bird told me that there is a new one out already frog_stare can't see it on Miyoo's official site though.

austere ginkgo
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Do you know a tool such as Skraper but which can automate downlading walkthrough guides for games like from GameFAQs ?

empty kernel
# worldly crag its pinned

Oops. Went straight to the Miyoo site first. Yeah, I really should read the pins on the channel than relying on Miyoo. Thanks.

worldly crag
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they sent it out to devs but they're slow to get it on their own site I guess

stiff ether
clever lotus
misty shore
golden lance
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I found MinUI just turn brightness to 1 or very dim when close lid or something

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If look carefully under sunshine

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Can see the content still on the screen?

sage wraith
worldly crag
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Nah my desires usually involve removing stuff half the time

worldly crag
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All in one os's are convinent for broad users but my needs are usually 10% of whats included

blazing brook
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MinUI is about as lean as it gets

sage wraith
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Was thinking a scraper in apps could be nice with the flips WiFi

sage wraith
remote rapids
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Allium is neat just tried it but boy do I miss game switcher

daring arrow
left urchin
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Allium is all coded with Rust, you’d be surprised what’s possible

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The mini flip is going to have soooooo many great cfw to choose from

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It’s a great time in the hobby lol

sage wraith
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Rust is so cozy, especially for someone that segfaults on everything I do in C lmao

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I’m new to it but it’s nice

sage wraith
# remote rapids Wow

Check the nightly, in there settings enable carousel, that’s this new switcher style thing

river ferry
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therefore it is the ultimate lazy

steel coyote
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I ordered at launch, number 1126, still hasn't shipped to austria. I thought the first batch orders should be shipped by now. Anyone else?

daring arrow
sage wraith
clever lotus
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does Yanwen not update very often? it's stuck in "processing information input" for a couple days for me

pallid loom
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I wonder if you are 1327 or we literally have the same number 😂

sage wraith
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Oh my b 1376 is me

craggy tapir
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I feel like 3rd party sites give you better updates

potent tide
runic bane
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Im surprised retro game corps didnt compare it to the v90 and anbernic clams.

left urchin
visual basalt
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looks like mine left china

wet scroll
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I will humbly request that everyone stop enjoying their shipping notifications until mine has shipped, thank you aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

runic bane
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i hope someone updates the handheld size comparison website so we can compare all the clams and stuff

left urchin
daring arrow