Miyoo Mini FLIP - A smaller Miyoo Flip

[worldly crag]

that would annoy me to no end

single braincelled orange approved

[stiff ether]

Ok fuck it

[vague pier]

HaHA

[vague pier]

What a G!

[worldly crag]

so like a deep mustard or we thinking a simulated smokers lung at the highschool science day

[vague pier]

I really like it. So much better than the flip.

[remote rapids]

Want transparent colors lol

[worldly crag]

you'll just have to buy another when they cave after 6mo

you think they'd know sales numbers better after the miyoo mini blue would constantly sell out fast af every time for YEARS

[stiff ether]

This is a Fresh OnionOS install on a San Disk 64gb Extreme. It's Buggy, but better than StockOS. Fight me lol

[worldly crag]

just another reason to get into gross resin printing I guess

[shut pulsar]

Wait, so did they already release them and you got one? Or are these pictures from someone else?

[worldly crag]

dev units

[stiff ether]

I'm a Spruce Dev

[shut pulsar]

Ah fair enough then.

[stiff ether]

I also work with UnofficialOS as well

My Hands are huge, this device is Amazing

[stiff ether]

Spruce Approved

[torpid shard]

As I said wait for the V3 or v4

[stiff ether]

This device has a Great Hinge, Buttons feel great, Shoulder Feel Fantastic (that tenlevels comment was weird 😉), screen is gorgeous, Hinge cannot be overstated....its Great

[bold fossil]

Are you this confident the hinge is better? Does it feel like the same design as the one on the Flip?

I saw it, but it's really hard to tell from the sounds alone. But does it sound like plastic grinding on plastic there, or am I mistaken?

Ok, good

I really hope they've fixed it because this looks so perfect

Eh, I'm kind of over the original Flip. The Mini, and DS handhelds, are much more exciting right now

What's the 321?

Ah, so kind of safer options then

Yeah, a traditional vertical and horizontal device?

Less to get wrong there

True, good point

But also more competition, so you really need to stand out

[haughty steppe]

I'll say this one looks appealing!
I have the yellow v90 but would prefer something smaller

[bold fossil]

I agree there are many options, but I still see many popular niches kind of being ignored
The Miyoo Mini is a great example, all this time and no one ever made a vertical of that same size
If Miyoo released an updated MM with Wi-fi and a bettter chip, I bet it would sell really well

[stiff ether]

Mini Flip is Built better than Flip V2 for sure

Hinge is what we all wanted, feels just as Good as 35xxSP & V90S. I now have them as proof, posted earlier lol

Plastic feels better as well, could just be the yellow tho because it's not "20 years a Smoker" yellow anymore 🤣

[bold fossil]

what's that?

[worldly crag]

miyoo mini clone but rk3326

sucks that its +60USD

[bold fossil]

Never even heard of that.... I'd definitely buy one if I knew about it

[stiff ether]

I'm confident, I posted Pictures earlier in the Thread, I have a 35xxSP Clear, V90S Transparent Black, Pale Yellow Flip V2, Funkey S, N3ds XL

I know My Hinges

[stiff ether]

We don't need your negativity today, just unfollow the thread like you claim you like to do, then post anyway

[bold fossil]

You can tell this early? Must feel really different then, sounds good

[stiff ether]

No plastic Grinding Sound at all

[blazing brook]

The hinge on the og flip was a jumpscare

[stiff ether]

Snæke is 1 of my Problem children, I ain't poking that bear, just calling it out

[bold fossil]

Other stuff they could explore that I bet would sell really well: horizontal MM+ with the same chip. People love OnionOS. Shouldn't be too expensive to develop. Honestly, even MM+ with a bigger display.

Or, in more general terms:
We don't have many budget 16:9 handhelds
Not many budget 4" 4:3 horizontals, most popular we have is the 40XX H which isn't all that popular

[haughty steppe]

it'd be nice to get an Android flippy boy in this form factor (having a 4:3 screen) just to improve battery life

[bold fossil]

For sure, or any budget Android clamshell at all. I'm betting Anbernic's not gonna be under $100

[blazing brook]

Was that a hinge or a shotgun

Also ty for all of these comparison vids

Just selling me more and more on this

[stiff ether]

I am in agreement with @fresh spade

If miyoo put this device out first, it would be a massively success

[bold fossil]

How much do we reckon it's gonna cost?

[blazing brook]

Does Miyoo do early bird prices I don't remember

[bold fossil]

That'd be awesome. If that's it, I wouldn't mind getting it as soon as it's out

If it proves to be reliable long run, I'd even think about buying more than one

[blazing brook]

Under the hood is this closer to a Mini or an A30 or what do we got going on here as far as specs go

Ok cool

[vague pier]

Wish I worked for you. My boss only got me anxiety.

[blazing brook]

I was always hesitant about taking my Mini places because of the screen rattling around but if this is literally just the v4 but clamshell......it might be peak

[stiff ether]

NDS/PS1 & Below*

Nds is gonna be just like MM+

[blazing brook]

My mini felt like it could break if I so much as looked at it funny

[stiff ether]

Bonus system

But I was playing Asphalt NDS on it earlier

Played great

[bold fossil]

Bro I really, really wish they get this one right, no hardware problems

[bold fossil]

Not the best track record, but if there's any release they should get right it'd be this one

[blazing brook]

Everything seems pretty good on the hardware front so far, and these are just dev units so early feedback could make what the rest of us get even better

[bold fossil]

Good thing you caught it this early, maybe they can fix it before release

[blazing brook]

Do y'all (devs) have pretty open channels for giving Miyoo feedback or do y'all have to go through a guy

Nice

[stiff ether]

Just sent the Message, Retried WiFi on Stock OS again. Didn't work. Sent them that message as well since it works on Allium. It's a FW issue

[blazing brook]

I wish they'd care more about their stock os, I think atp they're well aware someone will always bail them out with CFW so they don't bother trying, that's what it feels like anyways

[stiff ether]

Probably the Same "Channel" y'all have

Just messaging them directly over AliExpress on their offical page

[stiff ether]

Every single 1 of these devices is better with CFW. I just wanna spread that love to all these teams

[blazing brook]

I liked Spruce on the A30 a lot

[stiff ether]

Special Shout out to the 2 Biggest GOATs of each side. Gamma & Shaun. Without both of them, we would be Cooked

Both Shaun & Gamma have helped every single CFW team either inadvertently or Directly

[blazing brook]

MinUI is my favorite frontend ever

I haven't owned stuff that Gamma can be put on but ik he's doing the lord's work

[stiff ether]

"Hey Shaun can you Support the New Mini Flip, it's just a Hinge and some Minor tweaks. Then you can go back to Retirement. K. Thanks."

"Guys. He agreed" ❤️ 🤣

I'm Joking, that was not the Conversation

[blazing brook]

Can the mini flip recognize when it's open or shut? If not is it software or hardware issue or

[stiff ether]

Timer Set to Sleep in 5 min

Power off from Sleep works out the box

[blazing brook]

MinUI + pseudo-sleep on open/close

Oh baby

Endgame EDC for me lol

[stiff ether]

@fresh spade are we getting BitPal on Allium 👀

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

I'm scraping Box Art today at home, but I plan on Pushing Allium tonight to its Breaking point with NDS & Ps1

Of course, I also told them I need another 3 dev units in every color as a joke hoping they don't get sarcasm

I also asked if we can Get this Hinge on a Flip V3

I dont like Black devices, I like my colors of the Rainbow

🌈

If i could have every single 1 of my devices in Red/Blue/Green/Yellow/Purple/Pink/Orange

No White, Black, Grey, that would be ideal for me. Also, all Transparent colors is best. But I'm a 90s Kid

[wide crescent]

Will this thing do audio from the usb-c port?

maybe it's not so bad, they would have included a really cheap low volume headphone jack anyway no?

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-dongle-useless-nonsense-defective-idle-gif-15246773

[worldly crag]

wonder if its just analog over unused usb-c lanes like last time (A30)

or if its actually otg

im thinking the former

aux as in analog auxiliary yeah that would imply its like the A30 but its still weird

[stiff ether]

I blame those sick ass iMac G3 for my love of Colors

[wide crescent]

This should be close enough to my dream of having a trimui brick sp, the ppi is still good on this thing

[worldly crag]

and the funtastic n64 line

[noble flame]

when will that release???

[worldly crag]

much longer than people will remember its existance before launch

[noble flame]

damnnnn

[stiff ether]

Never Said Which Next Year

[remote rapids]

Well darn really wanted some kind of transparent. It'd be nice if they could add a little small area of transparent like powKitty does black unit

But glad to hear y'all's reports sounds like if it's structurally well that's way better than color preferences

[echo seal]

oh sweet, that is the og mini speaker

[bold fossil]

since you opened the bottom part, can you see the hinge?

[bold fossil]

i guess not, must be behind that piece of plastic

[stiff ether]

Flip V2 Hinge

Only Way to see it is to expose the Top of the Screen

https://tenor.com/view/no-not-in-my-house-dog-shake-head-nope-gif-20870595

I dont play with Sound because I am a Pokemon Player. So Rom Hacks with Fast Forward sound God Awful

[bold fossil]

yeah, fair enough

[wide crescent]

I hope the gray wont have hinge issues this time around..

[left urchin]

ubuhuh?

hahahaha

yeah i do now lol

inoput mapping could be swapped though right

[worldly crag]

eh its hardly a hack

its just a config and silkscreen error at best

it can 100% be fixed with a patch

its just wired to gpio the cpu doesnt care what position does what

software already translates gpio## is which controller input

yeah if its mapping incorrectly by default it would need software change

idk about changing the silkscreen over something that realisitically doesnt matter to the function of the device

[wide crescent]

Yeah I'm npt sure we can trust miyoo around hinges, that's really my main concern

do they offer refunds if your hinge breaks?

[worldly crag]

they usually just give people replacement parts as needed

so long as you can swap yourself miyoo's been pretty good about getting your device working if its a dud

[wide crescent]

this thing should definitely be a great pico 8 handheld

do we know the dimensions yet?

yeah

[bold fossil]

Really, miyoo? just the grays? still sketchy

kinda funny how it's as thick as the big clamshells

[stiff ether]

Miyoo Refuses to take accountability

It's the Perfect Size, don't be silly with thinness lol. You still have to hold it and use it. It's not a phone

[bold fossil]

I agree with you that it must feel great, but I think thickness is a pretty fair point to discuss. It's not just "complaining about anything" bro, c'mon

I really don't mind it, I'm very hyped for it

but it's undeniable that thickness is the most important dimension for pocketability

The reason the 34XX SP felt so much better than the 35 for me was that it was a few mm thinner so it didn't bulge out as much in a pocket

[pine ruin]

XU dropped their Flip precisely because according to them there were "too many" clamshell/flip handhelds

[bold fossil]

yeah, and that's fine. I don't expect it to optimize thickness right now

[bold fossil]

but it's still an important point to bring up on a device that's supposed to be pocketable

[bold fossil]

pure bs since we have like two or three good ones right now

[bold fossil]

probably four when the mini comes out, which could be a while (hopefully not)

They really dropped the ball on that one, the display is way too small, and it's overpriced. Especially now with so many better options coming in at that price point

[torpid shard]

I've no idea who you are? Just block me and stop acting like a baby 🍼

[pine ruin]

there is just soo many "safe" handhelds yet to be made: nobody has done a game boy micro clone, nobody has done a vertical 3:2 handheld, etc... I would like to see more 2 button devices but I get that's the special kind that's being discussed about in here

[torpid shard]

He started it 🤡 I did nothing wrong!

I'm just going to ignore him!

[wide crescent]

ayy thanks

[bold fossil]

maybe if they bothered to sell their only device on aliexpress they'd get some sales...

[bold fossil]

there is the powkiddy v10, but I 100% agree that there is PLENTY of space for tons of different form factors that are barely tackled

[abstract frost]

Really? The zero40 is their best selling handheld yet, even found its way onto some bigger channels

[bold fossil]

the xu20 v32? Never found it there

[stiff ether]

Crying victim as per usual, typical. Just like his usual self. Nothing changes just more Trolling

[pine ruin]

the bezels are night and day with what miyoo offers, but yeah, i didnt consider that one

[bold fossil]

is it? surprising that it's surpassed the micro ones. But maybe that's precisely because it showed up on the LTT channel

[bold fossil]

For sure. Goes to show that they could make a device like that and definitely do well

see ya man, have a good day

[visual basalt]

@fresh spade @stiff ether u guys are straight up heroes rn, thanks for all of the great info on this

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-moana-youre-welcome-maui-dance-gif-15810606

[visual basalt]

lolol, i think i wanna get this in grey

i really like how that one looks

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-food-gif-5113834195819307982

Yellow/Black, it's the best color combo since RGB30

[bold fossil]

it does look like the best color imo. love the contrast

[stiff ether]

Especially if they ain't giving us the Transparent Blue

[bold fossil]

hoping they can assure us they've fired their gray plastic guy or smth

[visual basalt]

the v4 screen res means this guys gonna be playing games super crisp

[bold fossil]

at the same time probably wont integer scale anything, right?

[worldly crag]

one35 and this are going to be fighting for my pocket space bet

[bold fossil]

it's a weird resolution

[stiff ether]

I still want a 4", 1:1, 720p Clamshell. But this will do

Your Wife has excellent taste

[bold fossil]

damn, the blue is so good. it's like a free money hack for them

[stiff ether]

She has you & a Great color choice ❤️

[visual basalt]

oh my goodness that would be my end game handheld

[bold fossil]

yeah so nothing. that's fine though

[worldly crag]

yeah 560p bad for int scale but its so small and so dense it really doesnt matter from a pixel peeping angle

[stiff ether]

Don't use Interger Scaling. Problem Solved

[bold fossil]

yep. honestly couldn't care less

[visual basalt]

id just through a light pixel scaling shader on and call it a day

[worldly crag]

problem is it doesnt shaders too good due to no gpu

scanline grid overlays it does tho

[bold fossil]

so happy the clamshell is going to make these cases obsolete

[haughty steppe]

when will this finally release?!

[visual basalt]

hey i like my mm+ case

it is bulky and silly but thats the charm

[stiff ether]

Best MM+ case. Grip/Case/Display in one

[bold fossil]

fair enough. I can't say anything when I have a collection of 3DS carrying cases being used to store random handhelds haha

[bold fossil]

wait, they're cooking with this one

[stiff ether]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1441991836/miyoo-mini-plus-gripcase

[wide crescent]

actually, the resolution is good for ds, gba, gameboy, neogeo, atari lynx

pico8

other than that not much else though

[blazing brook]

This is about as close as you're getting to a game boy micro clone lol it's literally the same screen

If we DO ever get a micro clone tho I'm throwing money at it

[pine ruin]

the wise thing would be to use a screen slightly bigger like they did with the miyoo mini, like the one from the gpd pixel

[azure prawn]

Damn. Watching those vids this looks sooo good

[hoary cave]

Need a 28xxSP now that we know this has the bad hinges

[bold fossil]

more competition is never bad... and make a 28XX V while you're at it please (all with wifi this time)

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-even-read-the-post-malik-payne-house-of-payne-women-of-today-s9e5-gif-25260635

[hoary cave]

The flip v2 hinges are still way worse than the anbernic ones

Does this not have the miyoo flip v2 hinges?

[visual basalt]

no

its a new device

not the miyoo flip

[hoary cave]

I am aware

[visual basalt]

you expect people to actually read or watch a video?

for shame

[bold fossil]

well... we don't know.

[visual basalt]

brother

tenlevels literally has the device

[bold fossil]

yes, and we don't know if the hinge design is the same. You cant say it like we know

we know it seems to be much better

thank you for the videos btw, guys

[visual basalt]

pause

[bold fossil]

agreed

Lmao

Yep. I'm on the same page

[runic bane]

Can anyone compare it to the og v90 please?

[grim beacon]

It’s not the hinge, it’s the shell. The v2 hinge feels great on my v2 that I epoxied the lid shell to

[runic bane]

Np, but the buttons are quite right?

[grim beacon]

Nope, gone

[runic bane]

Oops spelling mistake

Thanks thats great about the buttons

[left urchin]

I sent them a message about the button mapping as well

[tall spruce]

hmm implying all is well technically rockbox should just work on this....

[stiff ether]

Can you send me a V90 and I will compare it to my Mini Flip?

Mini Flip has a Better Hinge than the Flip V2

Mini Flip Hinge Feels Almost as Good as the 35xxSP & V90S. I own Both of those Devices

[tall spruce]

what hardware is in the miyoo flip mini?

[stiff ether]

Same Chip, Ram, WiFi as a MM/Mm+

[remote rapids]

Halloween Flip

[tall spruce]

hmm

[mighty saddle]

where do we buy a mini flip

[visual basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

[tall spruce]

if i get some basic info i can whip up a compatible build

i have no miyoo devices lol

[mighty saddle]

buy an a30 theyre so cheap for how good they are

[tall spruce]

but as long as i can know some certain sysfs paths and/or firmware specifics i should be able to crank one out

i think the only additional thing i can think of is panel spec info

in particular panel depth

[stiff ether]

Screen = 752 × 560p

Battery - 2500 mAh
RAM - 128 MB
RAM TypeDDR3
ArchitectureARM
Chipset - SigmaStar SSD202D
CPU - Cortex-A7
GPU
CPU Clock Speed1.2 GHz

[bold fossil]

not anymore unfortunately. at least from what I have been seeing for months now

[tall spruce]

somewhat

[stiff ether]

If you are USA, they are cheaper on Amazon now

[tall spruce]

i need to know about sysfs

[stiff ether]

Oh! I know a Guy.....

@left urchin

[bold fossil]

I'm not. I look on aliexpress where the time they were hitting like $40 and under is long past

[tall spruce]

and lastly what firmwares are we looking at this thing running

[bold fossil]

OnionOS

[azure prawn]

Did I call the hinge panic or what

I leave for 20 min

[left urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-need-how-can-i-help-tell-me-what-you-need-im-here-to-support-ian-mc-shane-gif-13799329

[left urchin]

So far onion allium and MinUI basically “just work” more or less

Spruce team is interested as well

I always forget about Koriki

[tall spruce]

mostly sysfs info for battery and backlight

what are the paths for those

in terms of panel info is it a 16bit or 24bit panel?

in regards to firmware more or less does it at least have a decent sdl2 implementation and what are the storage paths

oof

i would need to build sdl2 for it then...

in terms of the above output, any output of /sys/class ?

/sys/class/power_supply/* or /sys/class/backlight/* ?

[left urchin]

@tall spruce XK and Chris are working on sdl2 currently

Are you a dev?

[tall spruce]

just trying to get rockbox on as many devices as possible lol

[runic bane]

Do yall think this is smaller than the og v90?
What screen size again?

[tall spruce]

hmm yea if it would be run in its current state it would just default to fallback mode

[bold fossil]

for sure

[runic bane]

Thanks that will help

[bold fossil]

2.8" iirc

[runic bane]

Quite small wow

But it does ps1 and gba well?

[left urchin]

If you can get it working on the mm or MMP it’ll work on this device

[left urchin]

See my above ☝️ comment

It’s basically a Miyoo mini/+

Just flippy

[tall spruce]

nice thanks

good news is panel is 32

so i dont need to make an exception for 16

got a 34xxsp recently and noticed on the current rockbox build it has banding

which checked and built for 16bit and sure enough that fixed it

so fun

did not expect a 16bit panel in <current year> but here we are

lol

it shows as being a 32bit panel though but something is fishy

i think for right now i should be good to go outside of needing to know where i can put this storage wise... itll just create a bind in /tmp for the rest

ill have it default into fallback mode till i can figure out how battery reading and backlight setting methods are handled

[tall spruce]

Let's imply I make an app... Where are apps stored

[left urchin]

mnt/SDCARD/App/

Basic app structure is a folder with a config.json and a launch.sh

[tall spruce]

Thanks 👍

[left urchin]

if you want an example app let me know

[tall spruce]

I think I should be set... I'll have to borrow from my friends nano port the sdl1.2 and create a new target

[left urchin]

sounds good

[tall spruce]

As I imagine sdl 2 situation is kinda in a hackish state

[left urchin]

its in process idk how well its coming along

not really my area of expertise

[tall spruce]

👍

[left urchin]

i cant even spell sdl2

let alone use it

[tall spruce]

Lack of GPU probably complicating things lol

[bold fossil]

PS1 I'm not sure, but GBA it does great, no issues. I bet PS1 is fine too, it's not a hard system to run

[tall spruce]

whats the state of USBC audio?

[visual basalt]

apparently it comes with a usbc to headphone adapter so it should support it ootb

which is music to my ears

[tall spruce]

Oh?

[visual basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[left urchin]

A30 is the same…. It’s historically bad with headphone compatibility

[visual basalt]

damn, hopefully the usbc isnt shit lol

lolol

a usb-c dac on this sounds like it might be a winner

especially since @tall spruce is working on rockbox for it now

[left urchin]

I haven’t tested headphones at all but I have some fancy purple ones I can try

[visual basalt]

do they happen to be Koss Porta Pros perchance

[left urchin]

They are koss headphones I bought from @formal cairn

[visual basalt]

yeeaaaa

[left urchin]

Idk the specifics of them

Yeah I had to reeeeaaalllllllyyyyy turn it up

I wonder if the adapter is the same as the a30

[paper rose]

Kinda looks like Koss KPH40i's with the MMCX Mod and a custom headband

[left urchin]

I have no idea lol supermodio is my go to for koss mod stuff

[paper rose]

100% I've seen his work and really dig it. I've been happy with the Koss 40ohm stuff for a while now

[visual basalt]

maybe its the dongle they included, i wonder is it could handle a better external usb-c dac

[left urchin]

At least with the a30….. people have tried and failed to use a new dongle or use straight usbc headphones

It’s always been stock dongle or nothing

[visual basalt]

did the a30 also not have a headphone jack?

i cant remember

[left urchin]

Yep

[visual basalt]

damn

lool

[paper rose]

Hello!
Hope you're doing good lol

[tawny peak]

This is looking like a device that I may order, if the price is right. not sure if its been asked yet but what is the hinge like compared to the bigger flip?

[paper rose]

Someone definitely should do that

[left urchin]

Hinge is good!

Also it’s tiny lol

[paper rose]

@paper rose MODS PIN THIS VIDEO

[tawny peak]

still mixed feelings on the 2 stage locking but sounds better at least

[left urchin]

You’ll return it in a few weeks anyways 🤪

[paper rose]

As a man with 5 Miyoo Minis

I look forward to this one

[tawny peak]

sshh 🤫

I liked my mini mini v2/v4, the plus was slightly chunkier than i wanted but it was still nice. had bad luck with all my a30s though

I had a v4 MM but stupidly sold it to a friend... keep wanting to reorder one but i have a brick hammer that stops me every time because its better in so many ways

had a MMP but gave it to a different buddy because i never used it

the v4 mm was so nice for slipping in your pocket for quick gaming, and the brick hammer does that well too

[left urchin]

Still got an a30 somewhere?

[blazing brook]

I sold a v4 mini some time ago but I still have the trans blue Mini that started this whole hobby for me (cracked screen and all lol)

Having a slow-ass day at work and this guy called Retro Game Corps shows up on my YT feed talking about something called a Miyoo Mini and the rest was history

[left urchin]

For me it was quitting drinking and digging out my old gbc, modding it, spending too much on carts and then getting r/miyoomini pop up on my Reddit feed

[blazing brook]

Proud of you for cleaning up dawg 💪

[left urchin]

Still spend less on handhelds than I did on beer lol

Ten is irl a super dad and just an amazingly kind person

yup!!!!

i bought one of his hoodies when i picked up my cart at the saturday market

really fun art

[azure prawn]

Man. This is all I wanted

One hand flip let's gooo

[blazing brook]

Unironically a great scale for reference lol, can't really reliably go off of hands since everyone's different

[azure prawn]

Damn. Perfect

[wide crescent]

would you rather get this or an rg28xxsp with similarly thin bezels?

[mighty moon]

support should be similar then i'd take the 28xx for much better snes emulation

but then again i'm not in the sub 3-inch handheld crowd

[wide crescent]

Yeah I'm kinda hesitant

It looks good

but I would rather want this buy with the trimui brick screen instead

[haughty steppe]

Can you play comfortably on the mini flip?

[rain nacelle]

I'm not surprised

The hand space is much bigger than the MM

[haughty steppe]

How do you mean, the shoulders are swapped?

L and R are switched?

Oh...

Is this a mechanical or a software problem?

Well, it is frustrating knowing something should work as intended and it doesn't and they won't admit it

[nimble rivet]

I expect this to be the v1 release. They might change things and release a v2.
Gentle reminder that the MM went to v4 and the Flip is coming out with v3.

[haughty steppe]

I don't get their way of thinking here...

[rain nacelle]

FWIW it was only really 1 revision

V2 had its fair share of improvements. I don't think V3 actually changed anything, and V4 uses the 750x560 panel, because they presumably could no longer source the original

[pine ruin]

this is pathetic, its not even copying anbernic, its copying the sp original design lol

[river ferry]

m theme my beloved

[azure prawn]

Lol. The shoulder issue. What a dumb ass response. Le sigh

I mean I'll remap them and live. But still

Yeah. Weird

Seems like a dumb thing to fuck up

[brisk flare]

yo this actually looks great lol

screen looks better than that of the regular flip

2.8 inches is not for me though

[limber lily]

Miyoo is always going to Miyoo, but man I am I hyped for this one. Thanks for sharing the pics and experience with the hinge

[ebon moat]

it happens... both my and my daughters rg nanos have tilted screens

[ebon moat]

that's what she said...

[brisk flare]

I-I have 3!

[narrow pawn]

Im hoping we get more dpad only clamshells like this one because im kinda getting tired of sticks making a system look so ugly

[dusty sorrel]

am I the only who thinks the bottom half looks kinda cheap? definitely not as pretty as the og mini

[azure prawn]

Eh. It'll be creaky too

Doesn't have that mini butt

But if it doesn't explode I'm cool

Can always fill it with sand to give it some weight

[rain nacelle]

Well the GBA SP itself has a very basic bottom

[azure prawn]

Everything going on down there helps a lot with rigidity

Even simple stuff like indents for the sticker. Just probably thicker plastic all around

[rain nacelle]

Most likely, yeah

[potent tide]

did tenlevels delete all the photos he posted of the mini flip? miyoo must've gotten mad at him lol

wait he deleted every single message he sent in the last 3 months. weird

[rain nacelle]

Ah jeez

Tenlevels: "I love this handheld!"

Miyoo:

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-gif-19891262

[visual basalt]

fuck miyoo

[azure prawn]

Lol

I mean if he was under some kind of NDA

[vagrant matrix]

Kit’s and sundowner’s photos are still up though 👀

Ten was also posting his DMs with them which may not have helped lol

[stiff ether]

Tenlevels is Taking a Break from Social Media

[misty shore]

OK yeah Mini Flip is the Mini v4 killer IMO. Smaller and more comfy. And the weight feels good, doesn't feel cheap at all

[misty shore]

yeah he does this intermittently, has nothing to do with Miyoo

[azure prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[stiff ether]

Took my scale to it today at work, Hyper Precise Baking Scale

[azure prawn]

I love that they kept the pattern on the bottom

[potent tide]

What's the most everyone is willing to pay for this thing? For me I'd say if it's not $50 shipped or under I'm out, any more is just too much for the hardware imo

[stiff ether]

$60 because it's a Clamshell on Release

Then the Dust settles and it stagnates to $45-50

They won't, I can Feel it

[acoustic sorrel]

I'm ok with solid colours but none of the ones I've seen really call out to me. I hope they can come up with more colours.

[potent tide]

I like the snes one, the purple buttons are always nice

The yellow is also kind of okay, they got the shade better this time and the black buttons look pretty nice

[misty shore]

yeah I like that they went with the Mini's shade of yellow and not the Flip's.

[echo seal]

i always go black when it's an option, but the og mm tan would've been nice

[potent tide]

they should've done the black

[azure prawn]

Nah. They do better yellow than anyone else imo. And I'm here for it

We don't mention the miyoo flip yellow

That's the runt

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-food-gif-5113834195819307982

[hollow blade]

They should have done the transparent blue flip like the v4. But black will work

[tulip lantern]

So the black is confirmed?

Because when the 4 colors were revealed I was disappointed there was no black and was gonna settle for the snes color. But if the black is confirmed then thank God.

[hollow blade]

I have no idea what colors are actually coming. Lol.

[tulip lantern]

Oh...well that puts a damper on my hopes lol

[hollow blade]

Hey I'm hoping for black as well!

[tulip lantern]

If that's the case then they should just do solid black like the miyoo flip

[hollow blade]

I'll believe the final colors when I see them

It would be weird to not have a black. If they have multiple colors

Black is an easy sell

And a safe sell

[tulip lantern]

Yes very true. pretty much every company has always had black as a color for release on practically every handheld.

[hollow blade]

There's a reason almost every device has black and SNES. They sell. Even if people want to bitch and moan about how boring it is

[stiff ether]

I asked for yellow because I am 1 of those people who complains about Black & Snes being boring

I love my Fun colors. Mac & Cheese Yellow is fun

[hollow blade]

I appreciate fun colors. But they aren't as appealing to the masses. Believe it if a hot pink would sell they would make that shit as neon as they could

[stiff ether]

Just saying, there is a Pink color

[hollow blade]

True. But not hot enough 😅

[stiff ether]

They got the 3 Basic colors covered. White, Black, Snes Grey. Boring people got their safety net lol. Yellow & Pink shall prevail!

[hollow blade]

If they don't do black I'll just get a SNES and put all black buttons in it from a yellow. Then sell the awful combo of yellow with SNES buttons 😅

[stiff ether]

I know there will be someone into that

[hollow blade]

For a very low price 😅

[stiff ether]

Certified Kreatur3 Modded, $99.99

[left urchin]

Hey @hollow blade how you been man?

[hollow blade]

Special edition!

[hollow blade]

Pretty good! How about you?

[left urchin]

Good! Busy as all get out these days but happily ready for Fall and the rain to wash away the ick of August

[azure prawn]

I still want cobalt blue

[left urchin]

Purple

[azure prawn]

Maybe Anbernic will do a blue for their rg ds

[left urchin]

I saw something on Reddit that said it was a fake

[azure prawn]

So good. Give in

[azure prawn]

Wasn't there like fake pics but real confirmation?

[hollow blade]

I feel that. Life is finally calming down and kids go back to school and fall sets in. I'm ready for cooler weather and some rain lol

Might help with half the state on fire too

[hollow blade]

My first DS lite was the crimson/black then had the blue/black. Both great options

[shut pulsar]

…Ok yeah, I’m immediately getting SNES for the potential PSX buttons.

[dense epoch]

Maybe the Canada Post strike will be over by then, too! My Dev unit arrived in the City the day before the strike 😭

[tawny peak]

Joys of Canada Post eh? seems like theyre on strike every 3 months lately

I deal with the struggle of them as well

[dense epoch]

Ah so that's what happened then. I haven't had a chance to look into it more other than "Nooooo my Mini-flip!"

[stiff ether]

Can they stop screwing over their workers & just pay them fairly please. They work damn hard

Being Canadian is hard enough already ❤️

[dense epoch]

So same shit, different year. Postal strikes are the worst

Yeah... I didn't really get a say about which courier they used lol just the color (my wife and youngest told me to get pink)

Just DMed you the last notifications received from Canada Post lol

Nope! No forest fires here, but there was a draught and water ban all summer. The Mississippi water level was extremely low... You could walk across it here in CP

Yes please! Hahaha I also tried calling the first day to see if I could pick it up, but it was too late.

Holy shit!

Yikes

That's still quite a ways from me at least. All we got was the draught, fire ban, and water ban. I haven't mowed my lawn since June/early July since it got roasted lol

I'm glad I have so many trees in my back yard. The giant maple is creating a good amount of mulch with the leaves falling

Maybe next year will be better and I'll finally get to use my agricultural plot

Nawh, just a big yard lol century home with a big parcel of land

Yieeee

Right in CP, and it's only 15 minutes to Stittsville

Noooooo!!!!

I get that, though. Our apple tree actually had a lot of great apples this year, but all got knocked down by either the squirrels, the kids climbing the tree, or both.

Only got to pick a few

Daaaaamn that's awesome!

We missed out on the fishing outing this summer

Yeah, it was a busy summer

Hoping to get at least a 9Hp motor by next summer so I don't have to row anymore

[left urchin]

I’ve been eyeing some little outboards on AliExpress lol

[dense epoch]

Tbf, it was a great upper back and chest workout

[dense epoch]

I've been really curious about the quality hahaha and so much random equipment and vehicles of sorts

I really want my AliExpress backhoe

I've been blown away by the stuff on there now. I keep going down rabbit holes of random shit hahaha

[dense epoch]

Oh man, I NEED this in my bathroom

New server emoji 😂

Hahaha

I feel the same way

Oh, and I need this little ghost

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOdGOhx

Hehehe

Man I wish. I've been wanting a 3D printer for years

I started wood carving instead

[left urchin]

VTEC?

[river ferry]

need a printer real bad

[midnight hull]

@stiff ether not sure if you’re still up for posting pics of this thing, but could you perhaps show a comparison of thickness between this and the Miyoo Flip? If not, that’s fine.

[misty shore]

Nearly identical thickness. Mini Flip is maybe not even a millimeter thinner when shut

[runic bane]

Is it too small or is that still a strong suit? Comfortable over time?

[brisk flare]

that's because there's a real domestic demand for them nowadays with rich people wanting to build houses/villages (latter for their clan, it's a big thing in East Asian culture) on empty rural/suburban plots of land

manufacturers can't churn out something that kills people every now and then anymore

tbf it's more of a cultural thing for us, we don't mind living in flats and stuff but we definitely still prefer having a massive village for us and our extended family if possible

although families have gotten smaller nowadays (especially for the urban population) so village-building isn't that feasible anymore

@worldly crag

I'm pretty sure it's not lol

yeah I'm aware

I live in Hong Kong!

[visual basalt]

can u tell go to ayn and tell them to not cancel my order

[stiff ether]

It's Great!

[prisma oasis]

is there a comparison to the anbernic rg35xxsp?

[stiff ether]

It's right there

Click the last image

I put all my Clamshells In a Line by Size Order

Funkey S, Mini Flip, Flip V2, 35xxSP, & V90S

[prisma oasis]

I was more looking for side by side with the thickness of both being compared being the most important part

[stiff ether]

If you have seen 34xxSP & 35xxSP side by Side, the Mini Flip is not even a MM thinner

[prisma oasis]

I am not quite sure what you mean by that

[stiff ether]

There are Pictures comparing the 35xxSP & the 34xxSP side by side

The Mini Flip is less than a Millimeters thinner

I'm also at work, so I can't post new pictures lol

[brisk flare]

I wish they could've made a 3.5/4 inch version of this

this feels so much better

even the hinge

[visual basalt]

miyoo flip +

with this style and build quality

fuck the sticks

actually dont fuck them

[stiff ether]

Stick delete Mods are a thing

And I have seen alot of really awesome looking filler options people have made

[left urchin]

mmf-24.4mm closed
mf-24.7mmm closed
35xxsp-27.1mm closed
mm-18.7mm
mmp-22.5mm
a30-16.6mm

[prisma oasis]

so maybe a bit thick for its size 🤔

[left urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

It’s tiny cute and adorable

[visual basalt]

still very excited for this

[prisma oasis]

pocket ability is probably worth thinking about

[left urchin]

It’s very pocketable

[stiff ether]

Crazy Pocketable

[prisma oasis]

I did not like pocketing my anbernic rg35xxsp so I am seeing how this compares

[visual basalt]

just look at it

its much smaller

[stiff ether]

Remove the Screen Part. That should be comparable in size

[prisma oasis]

The length and width wasn't the issue itself

[visual basalt]

its thinner too

obviously a device that you have to fold the screen in on itself is gonna be thicker than one that doesnt need to do that (mmf vs mm)

[prisma oasis]

I find thickness has more impact on a square device due to how it effects the shape of the pocket so I am trying to compare things

[rain nacelle]

I love that yellow

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-food-gif-5113834195819307982

Best color

[prisma oasis]

It is somewhat strange how often miyoo yellow looks vaguely cheese like

[rain nacelle]

Powkiddy also features that colour pretty often

[left urchin]

The a30 with a snap cover is peak pocketable imo

It’s as thin as a mm and the screen is covered and protected

[stiff ether]

Mini Flip, RGB30, Flip V2

All "Yellow"

[rain nacelle]

Miyoo Mini Flip is like red cheese

[vague pier]

Flip is Great Value American.

[prisma oasis]

I don't remember which one is the a30

[left urchin]

It’s basically a horizontal Miyoo mini with a more powerful chip that can run up to n64 and DC surprisingly well

[river ferry]

it also has my favorite non-retroid dpad of all time

[prisma oasis]

I see 🤔

[prisma oasis]

Is the grey one that keychain handheld from like 3 years ago?

[stiff ether]

Yes, the FunKey S

It's Small tho, real Small. Barely Feel it

I normally rock a RGB30 as my EDC tho, so my perspective is there lol

[prisma oasis]

I wonder when reviewers would get units 🤔

[stiff ether]

That is up to Miyoo

Only Devs have Units right now

[prisma oasis]

Makes me think software is not ready yet

[stiff ether]

L1/L2 are swapped right now. Same for R1/R2 lol

The Device just feels good. Real good. Hinge feels Great, way better than that Flip V2 Hinge

Almost as good as the 35xxSP hinge

[prisma oasis]

do we have internal shots of the hinge?

[hollow blade]

Are you asking if we as a collective group are hiding them from you? Or if the owner can take some lol

[prisma oasis]

I am asking if there are pictures of the hinge internals

[visual basalt]

if it hasnt been posted here already then no

and i doubt those who are testing this device are allowed to or would even want to take it apart

[stiff ether]

The Hinge is internal, there are no Easy ways to see the Hinge without completely removing the Back Faceplate area

No one with a Dev Unit is willing to make that level of Disassembly

These are pictures from a Hinge Replacement I did recently on my Miyoo Flip V2. That is how far of a break down you have to go in order to even see the hinge

[sacred copper]

Any news on when it’s coming out?

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/two-weeks-gif-24950918

[blazing brook]

Could be 3, 4

[misty shore]

plz no, I'm still scarred from them spamming this about the OG Miyoo Flip

[stiff ether]

whenever anyone asks, its what im sending lol. i have already said it ever 10 times i nthis thread over the course of less than a week. No News from Miyoo on a Release date, someone Even went ahead and pulled a Screen Grab of the original Thread from AE convo from Miyoo themselves about it today

[hollow blade]

It's kinda dumb to bother asking because

1. it's miyoo
2. everyone will be talking about it

[blazing brook]

Maybe 5

[dense basin]

this'll be my main for eternity when onion gets ported to it ngl

[dense basin]

ur cool man but the way u choose to capitalize makes me read your text in a Gman voiceover

[left urchin]

Onion, Allium and minui honestly works very very well on it already.

I haven’t tested Koriki personally but I know the devs are working on adding support for it properly

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-approved-approved-stamp-i-approve-gif-10897403971127807694

[vague pier]

Real shit? Any pricing info?

[stiff ether]

#1372499987606405171 message

[vague pier]

Damn I would be upset if I could read

[stiff ether]

miyoo is not happy that Anbernic keeps copying their stuff

between the 35xx Plus, 28xx, and then the 34xxSP, Miyoo is kinda now working in the shadows now. so info is super on the down low

[rain nacelle]

It's strange that we have no release date when the device seems finished

[brisk flare]

doesn't matter as long as Anbernic keeps on producing the better product

[rain nacelle]

Ig they really wanted to make sure there were no hinge issues from being used as an EDC

[stiff ether]

a30 was better than the 28xx, MM & MM+ were both better than the 35xx/+ counter parts. its only the 34xxSP that out did the Fip

[brisk flare]

yeah I was talking about the Flip more than anything

the A30 looks amazing with Spruce support

[rain nacelle]

Disagree on the A30 being better than the 28xx

[brisk flare]

don't really care for the MM and MM+

[rain nacelle]

Especially considering that its launch was a disaster

[stiff ether]

fair, but that alone really got to miyoo apparently. too bad so sad, they had 9 months of delays and gave us a hinge that was.......that

[vague pier]

I gave my a30 away because the volume button didn't work. I liked the device itself though.

[stiff ether]

a30 was completely software issues. miyoo Stock OS sucks all the time

the a30 today, that device is awesome tho. i was 1 of those people who shit on it sooooooooo hard btw lol

i got one maybe 3 months ago

[rain nacelle]

I feel like the A30 only succeeded because someone liked the form factor enough to make Spruce for it

And Miyoo fixed the button problems with later batches

Early versions of the A30, including my own, have a big problem with accidental diagonals

Russ also had that issue in his initial review

[stiff ether]

its freaking incredible lol. A30 today is also 1 of the cheapest ways to blast through the n64 library. at least until RetroGFX finishes his build of UnofficalOS & releases his new G350 build

[rain nacelle]

I wonder why N64 seems to run as well as it does on it

I thought the SoC was a fair bit weaker than H700

[stiff ether]

its our Spruce Core

[vague pier]

Can you guys stop glazing the a30. I have no self control and will buy another.

[stiff ether]

Ludicrs64

[rain nacelle]

I'm slightly tempted to get an A30 sometimes, but Miyoo's official sale links often run out of stock

And I'm not buying from an unofficial vendor, in case it's an early batch I receive

[vague pier]

How can you tell if its an early batch?

[rain nacelle]

If there are a lot of false diagonals with the D-pad

[vague pier]

Dang haha

Welp I am buying another. Lets see what I get.

[rain nacelle]

NOOOO

Don't

Wait for the Flip Mini or whatever

Idk

Why buy another when you have one

[stiff ether]

a30 feels good

[vague pier]

I gave mine away to a friend.

[stiff ether]

and it has a stick

and if you are bawlsy, it works on the latest spruce nightly

[rain nacelle]

Big selling point of the Flip Mini for me are the dome switches tbh

Love em

[vague pier]

The volume button was not soldered on very well. It never worked on delivery so I opened it up and it was just snapped haha. So I gave it to my buddy since the software controls still worked.

[stiff ether]

we recently updated our N64 core. the dev who works on all the retroarch cores figured out the memory issue and now it gets super smooth running times. i was able to finally play Paper Mario on N64 without Crashing after 10 min

oh, and it can now handle the N64 Rom hacks! like Mk 64 Amped Up v3.0 & Smash Remix 2.0

[fair fulcrum]

This is typical miyoo so pretty normal from them.

[potent tide]

Tbh even if they keep everything under wraps until it releases anbernic could very easily crank out a copy and have it shipping to customers in less than a month lol. Miyoo doesn’t need to work in the shadows, then need to release an actual good device. If they do that they would have nothing to worry about with anbernic

[stiff ether]

that sounds logical, not miyoo style at all

currently, this is the best move they have made so far. getting Devs Devices early so we can get Y'all CFW support on Day 1 of releaase with 0 issues

we can also tell you guys wether this device sucks or not. but y'all are gonna wait for "real reviewers" any way lol

if i could get stubbs this device, i would lol

stubbs would love this thing. Ban would love it

but Ban wouldnt give it back

[left urchin]

Same could be said for the Miyoo mini

[left urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/bullish-bullish-af-buy-buy-moar-crypto-gif-4023638677059070706

[blazing brook]

I genuinely believe this hobby would be in a wildly different place if Onion had never hit the miyoo mini

and it's kind of frustrating because it feels like some companies know the community will bail out a device by giving it good CFW so they're not really incentivized to care about their stock OS

Anbernic stock on the h700 line gets a pass tho, it's pretty usable

ofc ur gonna Knulli or muOS it eventually but it's not bad

[flat slate]

Could be different indeed, but Miyoo Mini's ofw wasn't that bad, actually Onion is modded version of official one. I liked MinUI more anyway, as og Miyoo Mini didn't have WIFI so I preferred cleaner and simpler OS.

[stiff ether]

Stock Miyoo FW made SNES impossible to play. Nevsr forget

[flat slate]

Really? how's that possible? did they use some ancient RA cores for it? To be honest I was never a fan of stock OS, for me it was very clunky, it was always funny to me that someone wanted to port the same, clunky interface to other devices with GarlicOS (as it copied Onion which was based on stock) :D:D

But MinUI was perfect OS for og Miyoo Mini, fast and simple

[stiff ether]

Early Miyoo A30 days, MM early days b4 any CFW showed up

Yes Miyoo stock OS b4 the Flip was that bad. Never forget

https://youtu.be/NlgT-jETs6M?si=v4_qqJhg00RohxRg

This was b4 Spruce came and fixed the A30

This was like Day 1 a30

[wide crescent]

A30 better than ps vita? 😳

[stiff ether]

Vita does play PsP, Ps1, and Vita games perfectly tho

Those are great libraries

[wide crescent]

it's insane how 3ds can basically play whole snes library while the vita cant

[stiff ether]

Yes, but 3ds can't Ps1 good

[wide crescent]

tbh I'm not evem sure that's emulation

[narrow pawn]

Any comparisons to OG GBA SP

[stiff ether]

Don't own one. But the Miyoo Flip & 34xxSP are supposed to be the EXACT same size as the GBA SP

There ya go. 34xxSP, next to a GBA SP. And the 34xxSP was a Literal Clone of the Miyoo Flip

[ebon moat]

OG GBA SP, anbernic rg34xxsp, miyoo flip, and v90s for comparison. Just need a mini flip now, lol. Guess which color I am going to buy.

[left urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-bridge-yellow-gif-9412030

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-food-gif-5113834195819307982

[ebon moat]

Great movie.

[fresh spade]

Miyoo sent me new FW. Shoulder buttons are fixed.

[left urchin]

Sick!

[remote rapids]

Man I'm ready for them to get some units out so I can review one. I'm ready to buy day one

[haughty steppe]

this will probably be the easiest buy for me

[stone charm]

Any updates on where this mini miyoo flip is in the build process? Or we still have zero idea when this is supposed to be on sale?

[haughty steppe]

It is in our hearts for now...

[vague rose]

also need time for people to test hinge.
And if you're used to aliexpress discounts, more time for that.

Aliexpress discounts are too clutch, because certain devices like the retroid mini v2 don't get them due to being china shipped or something. And that rustles me because that's my most wanted device and I'll basically always be expected to pay retail for it.

Meanwhile great devices like 406h for example get to reach sub $100 from aliexpress discounts already.

[prisma oasis]

I would say it is usually a good idea to wait when possible

[potent tide]

Sub $100 406h??? What? Where? How? When? Who? Teach me your ways!

[wheat pollen]

The latest AliExpress sale the 406h got pretty close to $100, but maybe cuz I’m in the states the lowest I’ve seen it get is $110ish

[blazing brook]

It'll be out when it's out

[fresh spade]

I’ve tested the hinge by opening it over 1,000 times. I have been rough on it by slamming it shut like an angry kid. I held it by just the screen and aggressively shook the hinge open and close with weight of device. Same with holding body and flapping the screen aggressively. I would never dare do that with my Flip V2. I’ve essentially tried to break it for you all. It doesn’t feel as perfect as it did (I’ve beat it up) but it’s functioning correctly and doesn’t feel like it’s going to break. Will it eventually break? Maybe. But I’d confidently buy this and recommend it. Flip V2…. Wait for this hinge for V3.

[stiff ether]

Can we get some Pins please

[torpid shard]

In two years

[fresh spade]

Actually Miyoo asked me if it is ready after the FW update. 😉

They are just waiting on dev feedback is all. I think they are ready to roll.

[torpid shard]

Shame they won't release transparent colors 😞

[fresh spade]

I told them... about 5 times. They said it will look ugly and they already tested it. I said people will still buy it.

[torpid shard]

So they like their piss color more than the transparent blue - wtf?

[fresh spade]

OK back to my hibernation. I just wanted to give these important (I thought) updates about FW and hinge. Later.

[stone charm]

Yeah Wtf? The blue was their best color!

[brisk sand]

eh, i have the transparent blue mini and i'm tired of it, wish i'd bought the dmg one

[prisma oasis]

Maybe transparent red could be neat

[torpid shard]

Or transparent yellow piss color

[wide crescent]

Can't wait until the Miyoo Mini Flip releases in 2027

[rain nacelle]

I need more transparent orange in my life

[fresh spade]

Agreed

[rain nacelle]

Where'd you get that MM+ shell?

Looks really good

[misty shore]

he used to do a lot of dyeing

[remote rapids]

Bitboy one says hold my beer

[rain nacelle]

Yup

[blazing brook]

Was wondering when a brave soul would do a stress test with their dev unit, ty for your service 🫡

The more I hear the more I NEED IT

[stiff ether]

Those of us with Dev Units are also doing our part to try and Convince Miyoo to please make at least the Transparent Blue a color option

[blazing brook]

Trans blue Mini flip to match my very first Mini 🥹

[vagrant matrix]

Would be a slam dunk for Miyoo.

Especially since the transparent blue miyoo mini was a hit, the 35xxsp is basically unavailable in blue these days and there’s no other blue colored clamshell available to my knowledge.

[remote rapids]

Transparent pink with white buttons

[stiff ether]

No argument, but that is a New color. They at least Have the Color mix ready for the Transparent Blue at their disposal. So its within their Warehouse ready to go. Which is what this devices seems to be aimed at

[ebon moat]

black body with black buttons... I am tempted, but will probably still get the snes color

or just buy 2 of them, so one can be charging while I play the other, lol

[rain nacelle]

Pure black?

Ooh

Though I still prefer cheese

[echo seal]

glad the black is official, doubly glad they ditched the cheap looking multi-color button text, looks very sleek

[rain nacelle]

Makes me wonder if any other colours are different from earlier models

Like does pink have different coloured buttons now

[echo seal]

was gonna say, the weird fleshy buttons on that one 😂

[grim beacon]

What do you think the odds are that this uses the same speaker unit as the mini/+?

The speaker area seems too small for the speaker that’s in the flip/a30

[torpid shard]

s00n aka. years

[echo seal]

it does, tenlevels posted some pictures of it torn down that have since been deleted, really nice that we'll be able to upgrade it day 1

[grim beacon]

Thanks for confirming! That’s super great news, I have a leftover speaker upgrade that I’ve been holding on to, now I know where it’ll go!

[magic pewter]

I hope we still get egg color

[red merlin]

Wow can’t believe this thing actually looks good. I have a soft spot for Miyoo, loved the mm+.

Can’t wait to buy this.

[hoary cave]

I wish this had a gpu for shaders

But I do like onionOS

[rain nacelle]

Well hopefully someone actually gets Onion to work on it lol

[left urchin]

Onion, MinUI, allium and Koriki basically works on it out of the box fyi

[rain nacelle]

I thought there were problems that people were having when using those CFWs?

[brisk sand]

yep, at least the overlays are great, but with the already dim screen it's an issue

[hoary cave]

If onionOS doesn’t work on this it’s DOA lol

[stiff ether]

Beta has Issues, Stable has better compatibility

Minor bugs but definitely very usable

[left urchin]

Nothing major

Extremely usable

[red merlin]

Likely be a MinUI device for me. It’s perfect for it.

[rain nacelle]

I think I'm inclined to agree, actually

On paper, I prefer Onion, but MinUI makes managing multiple save states incredibly easy

[left urchin]

Don’t sleep on Allium!

It’s fantastic

Very MinUI like but also not quite as minimalist

It’s my go to for mm/mmp

[flat slate]

MinUI is perfect. Period. 😉 I just hope someone will port one of the forks with wifi working

[stiff ether]

Allium is more or Less MinUI with WiFi & Box Art & NDS & recognizes the 560p screen

[flat slate]

Nice, we need it indeed

[stiff ether]

And, out of the Box...Right Now....its currently the "Most Complete" CFW with only needed to add Hinge support. Dev wants to add more. His call lol. I love it as of this exact moment 😍

[clever notch]

Is the speaker quality identical to the miyoo mini v4? I’m definitely buying it regardless but just curious 🙂

[brisk flare]

what would I give for a 3.5-4 inch version of this

[stiff ether]

Identical, to the point the same Mod works for upgrading it

[rain nacelle]

A Miyoo Mini Flip+ would be very nice

[stiff ether]

So a Miyoo Flip V3, but this time.....with a Working Hinge

[prisma oasis]

should try to make a miyoo mini ds 🤔

or a miyoo mini flip wide

[stiff ether]

The p60....

[prisma oasis]

I said did say flip wide 😅

[stiff ether]

XXXL Clam-Shell

21:9

[prisma oasis]

I meant more ds lite size

[stiff ether]

Anbernic might be doing that, I don't thi k Miyoo could keep up

[river ferry]

P60 when

Fuck da 321

[shut pulsar]

If they’re using the same screen as the Miyoo A30, it arguably needs shaders (or at least better cpu filters) to hide the jelly scrolling.

[hoary cave]

It’s not the a30 screen, that one is native portrait which the gpu-less sigma star can’t handle

It’s gonna be that 750x540 or whatever from the MMv4

Which is good for anyone other than integer scalers

[shut pulsar]

Eh, the 540p is at least better for GBA integer scaling than 640x480 was.

[stiff ether]

560p*

[brisk sand]

better for gba, worse for everything else

but if you use overlays it all looks great

[red merlin]

Please no that screen was awful

[shut pulsar]

I mean I agree, the issue is that it’s either gonna be that or the 750x560, since the whole issue with the original 2.8” 640x480 screen is that they literally can’t source any more of those.

[hoary cave]

I don’t think the anbernic 2.8” 480p screen is the same as the a30 (seems nicer but that could be due to the h700 just working better rather than the lcd itself) but that is also a portrait native screen which the sigma star chip in the mm/mm+ can’t handle

[wide crescent]

I wish anbernic made literal psp go clone, same thickness and everything with a custom 816p or 1088p screen

slap a g99 in there and that's the perfect micro handheld

[rain nacelle]

Unfortunately there's no way for one of these handhelds to match the Go's thickness

The whole thing was custom made

Whereas the main custom things that these handhelds usually have are just the shells and PCBs

[wide crescent]

the psp go's thickness is literally one of the most appealing things about it

[rain nacelle]

Also, PSP Go has 930mAh battery, which is absurdly small by these things' standards

[rain nacelle]

I know, and it's unattainable for an emulator handheld

[brisk sand]

the rp5 body excluding triggers and grips is thinner than a psp go

[wide crescent]

silicon carbon

[brisk sand]

so technically they can do it

[rain nacelle]

Yeah, but that's without a slide mechanism

How thin is RP5 without the bumps?

[brisk sand]

15.6mm according to retroid

[rain nacelle]

I think the thinnest such a handheld could possibly be is probably like, 20mm

[wide crescent]

how do phone manufacturers put like 5000mah batteries inside 8mm thin phones?

[brisk sand]

they grab the phone, they put the battery inside, and they install the back case

[rain nacelle]

Because phones don't have buttons and shit on them?

I think the actual thinnest handheld we've gotten barring the Trimui Model S is the Aya Pocket S, and that was deliberately made to be thin at 15mm minus triggers

Couldn't find an official number for this, but the Miyoo Flip's bottom half might be closer to 14mm in thickness

[blazing brook]

Model S <3

[bold fossil]

Trimui Smart Pro is roughly 17.5mm

[rain nacelle]

Yeah?

Why do you bring that up?

[bold fossil]

Aren’t we talking about thin handhelds?

TSP is pretty slim for a budget device

[rain nacelle]

We're more talking about the logistics of a handheld that can match the PSP Go's dimensions

[bold fossil]

You were talking about the Model S and the Ayaneo, that’s why I thought it was relevant.

[rain nacelle]

Fair enough

[stiff ether]

Psp go ain't coming back in a Handheld anytime soon. People want better D Pads, Buttons, amd Sticks, than the PsP go had. It's just time and Nostalgia vs actual Product in hand. I think we are just too far away from a "Cheap Chinese Handheld Manufacturer" being able to replicate a Multi Million/Billion Dollar company with Research and time on their side + High Budget & resources

[river ferry]

people want 'better dpads and sticks' and i want 'trimui model s buttons and 3ds sliders'

we are conceptually different beings

[bold fossil]

I'm with you, brother. They can't ignore all 12 of us

[river ferry]

i personally won't rest until i have my miyoo p60 with a g99 chipset and 2 3ds sliders

[runic bane]

are the buttons quiet?

[misty shore]

pretty quiet, especially for tact switches. About the same as the OG Miyoo Flip. Not 100% silent though

[stiff ether]

D Pad, Buttons, Shoulders, all feel Great. Same as Miyoo Flip V2/V1. Amazing D Pad & Buttons, was the original reason Devs liked the Unit b4 the Hinge problems started

However, unlike the Miyoo Flip V2....The Mini Flip has an AMAZING HINGE! It's so buttery Smooth and wonderful. I have a Funkey S, V90S, 35xxSP, & Miyoo Flip V2 to compare them all to

[blazing brook]

Funkey S is just happy to be here

[runic bane]

Im really intrigued by this, hopefully i dont find it too small.

[upper cosmos]

I suppose there's no release date... Again?

[blazing brook]

Not yet but hopefully since dev units are in human hands it shouldn't be like that long

[upper cosmos]

Wait
And
See
😴

[rain nacelle]

Do Miyoo even give release dates?

I heard they kinda just start selling the stuff without much notice

[left urchin]

This

[runic bane]

I say they would be pushing for at least a holiday release, maybe november?

[austere ginkgo]

Sorry to ask but... what is their website ?

And to summarize, without shaders, what are the options to get balanced pixels without weird scrolling backgrounds ?

[left urchin]

AliExpress shop

[potent tide]

Huh since when did they start selling devices on that site?

[remote rapids]

I got a tracking number for my mini flip. Should arrive this weekend and I'll do first 24 hours video after using it

[left urchin]

They are ok with you doing a review?

Last I heard they’ve been telling people not to

Idgaf either way lol but it’s something to consider

[river ferry]

they sell button sets

trimui take note plz

which speaking of, trimui.com is dead

[austere ginkgo]

About balancing pixels (non integer scaling) without a GPU so without shaders, will the CPU be powerful enough to run any PS1 game plus the Normal2x + Bilinear filtering combo ?

How do launchers such as MinUI perform non integer scaling ? Only bilinear ?

[austere ginkgo]

Among them

• which interpolate games better for non integer scaling to 560p full screen ? (and how do they do under the hood)
• which have 560p support in the menus ?
• which permits overclock ?

[stiff ether]

Allium

[austere ginkgo]

Allium everything ? Including better interpolation than Onion ? There a few ressources (overclock, interplolation...) while it indeed seems wonderful.

[stiff ether]

Currently speaking of course, Onion Needs tweaks. Allium works Out the Box & Recognizes the 560p, Onion sees the device as 480p

[austere ginkgo]

And can Allium overclock the CPU ? And is there some secret sauce for upscaling/interpolating or does it rely on a RA filter chain such as Normal2x+Bilinear ? I cannot find the info here https://github.com/goweiwen/Allium

[stiff ether]

Upscaling is Pre Built in, its always be automatic for Pixel based games, Re-Armed PCsx2 only goes up to x2 upscaling and the Mini Flip/MM/MM+ were already doing that. Allium does automatic CPU Scaling for Power based on what you are playing, best balance of battery life & playablility, all of the CFW are like this.

if you are trying to "OverClock" beyond what are preconfigured by the Devs, the answer is no. Onion, Koriki, Allium, MinUI,DotUI, are all Maxed out on what these tiny little chips are truly cpable of in the first place. the fact that they can even play NDS at all is a mirace

as for true Interpolation, none of these Linux Devices will give you that. not even sure android does it. i think its a PC thing

[austere ginkgo]

I'm only asking for very basic Normal2x and Bilinear interpolation. Not for any complicated CRT shader thing. Bilinear filter's fingerprint on CPU is almost zero and I think that Onion gives that, plus a secret sauce in addition MinUI as well I believe. Normal2x is perhaps a little bit heavier but it is really not a big thing. Easilly done by small handhelds. But I understand that the Sigmastar beeing super weak, it could be an issue nevertheless, hence my questions.

[stiff ether]

Upscaling is a thing that is there yes

[austere ginkgo]

As for overclocking, doesn't the cpuclock.txt thing (with like 1600, safe in my past experience with a MMv4) give a frequency cap, and cancels governors ?

[stiff ether]

its the same chip

[austere ginkgo]

Yes I know, and 1600MHz was very safe in my experience with a MMv4. You make me woried that the cpuclock.txt thing in RA cancels any governor and sets a constant frequency, overcoming any governor, instead of just defining a new top frequency.

[stiff ether]

i dont mess with that stuff, its a weak chip that barely functions as is

over clocking just causes issues that devs cant account for

[dense basin]

w

WHEN

[rain nacelle]

https://youtu.be/YsifLPFAxjE?si=Io2eBcHc2aLXassn

[stiff ether]

Fred mentioned he is recieving a Review unit, so i would assume sooner rather than later

[remote rapids]

Yes they offered I didn't ask

[ebon moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceballs-time-when-will-it-be-soon-gif-13485134

[blazing brook]

Miyoo: It'll Be Out When It's Out™

[haughty steppe]

See you in miyoolent years

[torpid shard]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-time-pass-gif-9298440535445932845

[wide crescent]

by the time this releases xu might have released their 3.5 inch 960x640p clamshell

[rain nacelle]

Very unlikely, I'd say

We really don't know what kind of release schedule XU Retro actually has

XU20 released shortly after announcement, but there were renders of that thing since like November last year

Yeah....

I don't actually expect the XU flip thing to get released

Especially since reception has been pretty poor AFAIK

[wide crescent]

Well I was more so poking fun at how slow miyoos release scedule is

[rain nacelle]

Wasn't the Miyoo Flip actually longer?

Oh fuck

Well...it's...nearly...here...

I still haven't pre-ordered mine despite being hyped since November because I'm worried they'll shit the bed somehow

I want to see that 30 minute promo video at minimum before I order

I don't mind missing out on a $4 discount

[rain nacelle]

Well the thing is, review units are only being shipped like 5 days before the first proper batch

So by the time reviews come out, the one you ordered will have already shipped

[grim beacon]

Welp, it was nice to think I’d be able to buy this device while it lasted. I hope all the non-USA buyers enjoy this thing!

[dense basin]

wonder if the tarriffs are even close to covering the tax cuts

[torpid shard]

Don't forget Half-Life 3

[hoary cave]

lol no

especially since as you increase tariffs people import less

they're not good as a revenue collection method

[rain nacelle]

Yeah they're probably having the opposite effect

Since it's the American consumers who have to actually pay those tariffs

[dense basin]

yeah i would assume as much

[grim beacon]

It’s not hard to understand yet here we are

[hoary cave]

True. Economic crash = less tax revenue on profits, incomes, even property value

[austere ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/usE0Siwuxq8?si=vfkf25QXEAtZostO

[rain nacelle]

They kept the flesh coloured buttons on the pink model lol

[stiff ether]

But they do have the Black out model

Also, double Hinge confirmed

[rain nacelle]

October 19th?

God dayum

[stiff ether]

Miyoo finally fucking listened!

[leaden temple]

wished they kept the two toned purple buttons on the snes colorway

[rain nacelle]

To what?

[stiff ether]

Now they just need to shove that into the dayum Miyoo Flip V3 and call it a Day. Or.....just let the Miyoo Flip die

[rain nacelle]

Oh right, double hinge?

[stiff ether]

Miyoo listened to everyone telling them the Single Hinge and execution of the Hinge on the Flip was stupid and not good

[leaden temple]

now hopefully the plastic is of higher quality

[rain nacelle]

Clearly the pink looks different in the vid than it will IRL because of the render's lighting

But I wonder if the buttons are actually coloured differently

[stiff ether]

I can confirm, it's better Plastic already

[leaden temple]

this device looks so aesthetically pleasing but after holding my Miyoo Flip earlier today, I don't know how comfortable a smaller device will feel

might be a one-hander

[leaden temple]

definitely a one hander

[stiff ether]

At the same time, I have Gorilla hands. So take that as you will

[rain nacelle]

I've played on my Miyoo Mini V4 plenty, and this will have more room for hands

[stiff ether]

The OG Miyoo Mini was originally a 1 hander for most people. I see no issues with this device

[rain nacelle]

I will say, the tiny form factor is definitely more suited for 2D sidescroller games. Hand cramps are a lot more abundant when you have to press up and down a lot more often

[leaden temple]

it's a perfect pokemon/jrpg machine

[plush flame]

This is truly the best picketable handheld. I loved the RG288x but hated it lacked quick resume and no WiFi to sync saves

Is syncing easy to setup between Miyoo Mini and Android device?

[leaden temple]

what's the price prediction on this?

it's got to be cheaper than the Miyoo Flip right?

[rain nacelle]

No price announced but it'd have to be cheaper than the Miyoo Flip

Still probably gonna be expensive as hell by the standards of the internals, since that's how Miyoo rolls

My highball guess would be $60

[leaden temple]

hopefully in time for Ali's 11.11 sale but knowing Miyoo, this might take a while. Might just settle with Anbernic's DS

[austere ginkgo]

Black for me. If it is able to run PS1 games with simultaneously both Normal2x and Bilinear RA filters, for good pixel balancing with non integer scaling. Even with a fair overclock.

It is sad that they cannot source the 480p screen anymore. Such questions wouldn’t even rise and 480p with adequate scaling is OK for SNES on such small screens.

[rain nacelle]

They confirmed a 19/10 release date

But idk if they take a while to release stuff on Ali

I didn't think they did

[grim beacon]

Mini v4 is still listed for $60 on their site so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is more

[rain nacelle]

Well Mini V4 has also stopped production, so they know that there are Dweebs out there that would spend that kinda money on it to make sure they got theirs

[grim beacon]

Also I don’t want to rain on the parade but it’s functionally impossible to have double hinge with this design. What they are showing in this render is likely a hinge on one side and an empty metal cylinder on the other for the screen cable to pass through to the body. This is the same design the DS Lite, 3DS, and Miyoo flip use. If there were hinges on both sides, how would the screen cable be routed to the board? Generally, double hinge devices will employ a design like what the OG SP and the Anbernic SP devices use at the hinge that allows the screen ribbon to be routed closer to the middle of the device rather than at the edge. I could be wrong, but based on everything I’ve seen there’s no way this is double hinge.

[rain nacelle]

For some reason Miyoo don't even sell the A30 on their own website

Has it stopped production and sold out from official stores?

[potent tide]

Is the single hinge design actually stupid? Nintendo used a single hinge in the majority of their hinged handhelds with zero issue, I believe the miyoo flip hinge sucked due to the quality of the plastic

[grim beacon]

Dual hinge has failed too, as in with the original DS which is what prompted ninty to move to a single hinge design in the first place. So no, single hinge isn’t stupid, you just have to engineer accordingly

[potent tide]

That’s a really good point tbh, I completely forgot that the ds phat had the gba sp double hinge design, and that thing has seen countless broken hinges (possibly due to old, brittle plastic though). The only model I’m aware of with a single hinge that has the reputation of breaking is the og 3ds xl. But looking at the way the majority of those crack I would guess plastic problem there too

[rain nacelle]

Yeah the OG 3DS XL has a much worse build quality than the OG 3DS

[magic pewter]

I'm sad they axed the egg color. Guess I'll get white

[slender olive]

Every single time I see this it's a reminder that Funkey has made no new handhelds since their original

[slender olive]

They didn't make it though. It was a random Chinese company as far as I know

[limber lily]

Lots of Hinge U alumni discussing the mini flip here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1o89y5g/miyoo_released_a_promotional_video_for_the/

[grim beacon]

lol nobody is optimistic about the hinge

Flip really burned a lot of people

I’m encouraged by the early reports here

[rain nacelle]

Remind me again

The hinge on this doesn't actually "snap" to certain positions like the Miyoo Flip's does, right?

[left urchin]

Only devs with units already are optimistic about the hinge

It’s honestly very good

[stiff ether]

I know a Good Hinge, V90S, 35xxSP, Funkey S, Miyoo Flip V2, Mini Flip..........Mini Flip is a Damn Good Hinge