Miyoo Mini FLIP - A smaller Miyoo Flip

[left urchin]

Allium doesn’t get nearly as much love as it deserves

[hollow blade]

Is it still supported? I loved it on my mmp

NVM, june of 24. Not that I can think of anything more it needed

[worldly crag]

not really but also at the same time its not so out of date it isnt still useful

think its pretty new RA version as well

[hollow blade]

On the device it supports I don't think updating RA would really do anything anyway

Unless you're doing syncthing then it could matter

[worldly crag]

yeah you cant update RA on device but you still need recent RA versions for retroachievements to work properly

hardcore mode at least

[hollow blade]

Ah, I don't really use achievements. I log in but never actually check if I get any

[midnight hull]

Still waiting

[brisk sand]

get comfortable, it only took like 2 years for the flip to release

[river ferry]

It'll release after the Miyoo P60

[reef marlin]

would still take a p60 to this day

[river ferry]

same

[karmic locust]

i'd prefer a p90

[river ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fn-p90-firing-personal-defense-weapon-demonstration-fn-herstal-gif-8721436335924370763

[torpid shard]

Plz don't talk about P60 🥹

[river ferry]

I really wanted it to release

[torpid shard]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-goodbye-my-lover-james-blunt-michael-scott-the-office-gif-17275558

I will never forgive Miyoo for killing my beloved P60

[errant cedar]

RG28XX and A30 just didn't hit the same 😢

[stiff ether]

I love the A30

[stuck laurel]

Would love a slightly larger a30 with a bit more juice. Alas.

Get comfortable, though.

Miyoo Mini came out in... late 2021? And the Mini Plus came out in 2023. We'll be waiting a while (would love to be wrong).

[stiff ether]

2026/7 is my best guess for something after this Mini Flip

[worldly crag]

or they run out of money dealing with returns and engineering time revising things /s

[blazing brook]

It'll be out when it's out

[restive valve]

Can they fix the original flip hinge first? Hard to get excited for anything they make until that's done

[worldly crag]

rumor from one of the cfw devs is they are overhauling it completely to more normal SP style
But you never know with miyoo

[azure prawn]

They already did supposedly

[terse helm]

Those things sold like hotcakes even with the hinge issues iirc

Such a shame, the miyoo flip would have been the perfect edc device for me

[azure prawn]

I mean buy one now?

[terse helm]

The V2 still has the hinge issues from what I've heard

But in either case, I won't trust it until there's some official confirmation that the hinge has been redesigned

My X55 will keep me occupied for a while anyhow

[stoic crescent]

my launch 35xxsp from anbernic still has a solid hinge

the 34xx is supposedly solid too

[terse helm]

At the end of the day all of the devices in this price range are stuck at n64/psp/dc, not much point in agonizing over the details when there's much better stuff on the horizon

[worldly crag]

It doesnt happen often but there have been a handful of cracked/blown out 35xx hinges

[stoic crescent]

yeah im pretty set for the next 5 years or so unless something realyl nice comes along
got a 35sp, a30, retroid classic, rp5/mini, and a o2p, and a brick i dont even use

[worldly crag]

For how many they sold pretty nothing burger sofar

[terse helm]

I threw in the towel

[stoic crescent]

anbernic sold at least like 20k 35sp lol

hardly any dead hinges

[terse helm]

I'm just going to use my phone for ps2/gc/3ds for the foreseeable future

Plus I didn't grow up playing those systems so I don't care as much

Main thing that sucks about phones is no portmaster

[stoic crescent]

theres a android version in closed beta, so hopefully soon

[terse helm]

sick

Right now the powkiddy x55 is the best you can do for portmaster aside from the rp5 which costs like 3x more

And it would feel wrong to buy a device that expensive just for portmaster

I can stream most of those games from my pc anyhow

[stoic crescent]

most of the upper tier portmaster either works in winlator or has an appstore version tbh

[terse helm]

Winlator 😭🥀🙏

I heard it was abandoned by the main dev after harrassment

[worldly crag]

For a week

Hes back

[terse helm]

Oh cool

[stoic crescent]

he fixed the supposed virus and hes back, its not dead and got several more updates already

[terse helm]

Anyway my phone isn't powerful enough to run winlator well anyway, it's just a pixel 7 I got for $150

[stoic crescent]

something the guy was using was infected, wasnt even his fault

[worldly crag]

Yeah people were just upset he brushed it off for a few months of being told

Ofc people being paranoid and creepy about it

[azure prawn]

They don't anymore, supposedly there's been a quiet v3 hinge update. #1372499987606405171 message

Also I'm pretty sure only the SNES colorway had issues for V2. So if you order something else at this point your probably golden

[terse helm]

I saw that post, I'm still not trusting the hinge unless someone takes it apart to prove it was redesigned

[stiff ether]

Giving Russ videos ideas I see

[worldly crag]

also the tenlevels (a dev for that device) just posted some communications that they're stopping manu on v2's completely and reintroduce as v3 + have a replacement program for older

In the actual miyoo flip channel #1343806601806479460 message

[terse helm]

Oh cool, I completely missed that

[azure prawn]

Yeah. Think it's safe at this point. At least at normal lemon rates

[terse helm]

I can't afford to buy any new handhelds right now regardless

[azure prawn]

Touche. You win this round

Hopefully the design knowledge translates to the mini flip tho. I mean, it should

[worldly crag]

I think the mini flip is still a ways out so it should

Given miyoos history of leaking prototypes 9mo-∞ in advance

[river ferry]

If it releases at all

Again, P60

[worldly crag]

the infinite was for my homies waiting for the P60

[river ferry]

Meeee

[worldly crag]

It would have been cool (if it released soon after leaking)
Idk about now feel like magicX is gonna take that spot with their P65? based unit

I would have said the pocket micro but thats a bit too expensive (even after the heavy discounts)

[river ferry]

The core micro comes close but the euro shipping kills the deal

[worldly crag]

If someone did a costed down (better ergos) plastic non full glass front version id be down

but thats basically what the magicX 35 is anyway so waiting to see how that pans out

[reef marlin]

miyoo inputs with symmetrical sticks in that slim candybar form factor with 16:9 4" screen and psp playability still lives rent free in my head too dw germantacos youre not alone

[vernal shore]

It sure would be nice if miyoo got with the program and released this thing already

[midnight hull]

Program? They can’t even get with the hardware

[dusky meteor]

It has integer scaling turned on for everythint by default?

Damn it's so weird to read about onion and nice oses after a year of hanging out in this channel and using the spruce beta

[vernal shore]

Wasn’t there talk of trimui making a flip device a few months ago?

[worldly crag]

nope? only a smaller smart pro

[wide crescent]

I think it was just me wishing it existed

[river ferry]

no i do recall something being said about a potential flip device from trimui

but it was just like, "we might consider it" type of thing

[worldly crag]

2 years later

kinda like trimui for spending time more time on their devices it seems

[river ferry]

they seem to pretty consistently release a device a year

not including revisions and such

[worldly crag]

They tried for 2 one year and it fell through (got repurposed as the brick the next year tho)

The original brick design was visually similar with a 1:1 720p screen. I think 3.5" and it was looking close launch before even the RGB30 happened.

Then we got the smart pro instead later that year

[river ferry]

really it seems like they'd prefer to make one device of each 'class' than to waste time with multiple in the same category

[worldly crag]

also

Not sure on original source or MTL'd or what

[river ferry]

like the brick is their vertical console period

[river ferry]

yeah that

honestly a clamshell doesn't do anything for me from trimui

its just a brick but with a failure point

[worldly crag]

I think they're good staying in their lane than chasing trends

Id kill for a smart 2 tho (will have to see if the mini pro is close to want I want)

[river ferry]

the issue with a dual screen device is that drastic is the only thing that runs on low power chipsets/linux and getting it to work on one screen takes 3 developers and 3 different forks of drastic

i don't even know if drastic can output to two screens

[worldly crag]

I somehow doubt it not without lots of shenanigans

dual screen devices are probably better off on the higher end for 3ds and melonDS at this point

[river ferry]

part of the fun of low-end devices is getting stuff setup and working just the way you like it but like

when its basically impossible to make the thing work it kind of isn't that fun lol

[restive valve]

I'm slowly come to realize this company is a one hit wonder, and my anticipation for their devices has dwindled

[river ferry]

im a huge 3ds nerd anyway so i'm completely disinterested in ds devices that can't do 3ds

[restive valve]

TrimUI is way more exciting

[river ferry]

i just called it anyway and bought a flip 1s

[river ferry]

their one hit being the a30 💪

[worldly crag]

TrimUI is miyoo that doesnt totally botch its launch but isnt as popular somehow

[restive valve]

To be fair they have a terrible name

[worldly crag]

And id honestly say it probably has a bit to do with people being 50/50 on dome buttons

[restive valve]

Yeah that too, doesn't feel as retro

[river ferry]

i really never cared before but after owning some premium devices (namely the rp5 and ayaneo pocket micro) its like yeah. i get it

tbqh though what really gets me with trimui is that i don't like their dpad at all

[stiff ether]

TrimUI, "You want Clamshell? Too bad, Have this HAMMER instead. It's better for you"

[worldly crag]

How about the same but

https://tenor.com/view/metal-beavis-and-butthead-mike-judge-headbanging-headbangers-gif-4832670

[river ferry]

now a metal clamshell?

i could do that for sure

[azure prawn]

They're solid devices. But there's like taking a stroll and falling asleep tying your shoes

[worldly crag]

yeah but is that just more due to anbernic (and pk to a lesser extent) setting a crazy pace

[azure prawn]

Better than miyoo in the end. Miyoo is like forgetting what a shoe is and stabbing your foot

[azure prawn]

Yeah. But Anbernic is now moving at a normal release speed. Ayaneo, Ayn, Retroid, etc. 3 or 4 devices a year is a reasonable pace with decent testing. Take it to two a year if you want premium polish. One every 2 or 3 years, and people have to check for a pulse

[worldly crag]

I mean they do 1 new model a year and have done so for a while (not counting the brick metal as new either)

[azure prawn]

Yeah. Id never count reshells. That's basically an afterthought.

And the brick is a solid device. But they didn't exactly reinvent the wheel with it. Good sourcing, but I hope the company is like a couple guys. Maybe that'd make sense for a years worth of effort? I dunno

[worldly crag]

Wouldnt be suprised if it were a team that small tbh

for design at least

OS software is outsourced
assembly might be too

[azure prawn]

Yeah. I 100% doubt they Manu anything in house. They might work software. But even if it's 3 designers, one model a year would seem slow, unless it's not their day job. Which it might not be

[worldly crag]

Software seems to be done by the same guy that does miyoo's OS's
People have looked very closely into the code of the two and they're near identical in alot of ways
So my assumption is its the same 3rd party doing their coding

But never know same dude could just work in house and get hired out by miyoo as well but I imagine its more likely these OS's are an extra job rather than his main work

[azure prawn]

Makes sense

[river ferry]

of the firms making the budget devices I doubt any one of them is more than 3-5 dudes other than anbernic

anbernic is either a larger team or alternatively 3-5 dudes that are all on adderall

(the A in Anbernic stands for Amphetamines)

[dusky meteor]

It can very easily

[dusky meteor]

Misinformation against the super sp

[river ferry]

prove it, buy me a dual screen device

[dusky meteor]

Think about it

[river ferry]

linux drastic super dingus

[worldly crag]

pretty sure anbernic did a office tour no? They seem to have quite a few people between design/marketing

Unless im smoking crack and remembering another small pc company or something

[river ferry]

there was a post about a guy saying he was going to visit anbernic's office but i don't think he ever posted the video

[abstract frost]

They must've got him before he could post it

[river ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-but-they-got-him-ted-ted-series-yeah-but-they-got-him-ted-gif-7724380870473250815

[worldly crag]

nah there was one either RG or PK that has a short tour on a business page somewhere im looking

I just dont remember if it showed much and im confusing it with something else

[azure prawn]

That's easy. Just take 3 tabs of acid and go to a RadioShack

[potent tide]

This the one you’re thinking of?

https://youtu.be/-eVSSNUNYlg?si=zwTgdociRIJmAjtn

[worldly crag]

nope I think I found the link but 404'd

was a pk aliexpress business profile

*alibaba

[potent tide]

What’s the link? Someone might’ve saved it on the wayback machine

[worldly crag]

theres one way old tho 2021

[potent tide]

Darn

[worldly crag]

discord did not like that link one sec

https://powkiddy.en.alibaba.com/company_profile.html
not much on wayback tho

images are very similar to video I remember

I figured out why wayback link got eated, its hosted by that one site's domain

well at least its some proof I can still fish things out of the brain hole

[river ferry]

for some weird reason its like insane to me that a company like powkiddy or anbernic is actually a fully fledged like

job a person can have

like it feels so much like a 'some guys got together and are doing it out of a shed' kind of business

[dusky meteor]

Super SP would never be Linux

Fuckery department killed the video poster

[river ferry]

super sp this super sp that

[limber lily]

Whoa no way - I would love to see this come to life

[magic pewter]

*because of the fuckery department

[dusky meteor]

No because of the anti fuckery department

Linux is a pita

[magic pewter]

I'm making a CFW, so I decided against getting some devices for that reason

[river ferry]

look inside futuristic android fw
its linux

[left urchin]

What are you working on?

[dense basin]

when

[nimble rivet]

We don’t know but this could end up being vaporware

[worldly crag]

knowing miyoo 9mo - ∞ is their average leak to purchasable product timeline

[river ferry]

After P60

[left urchin]

Then another year after the 321

[delicate thorn]

Plus a few more months of bug and hardware fixes

[torpid shard]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[narrow pawn]

Anyone heard anything about this thing or is this just dead for a while

[worldly crag]

its miyoo expect nothing for a long ass time

[rain nacelle]

Yup

It'll probably be another few months regardless

[torpid shard]

Check back in two years

[wicked ember]

Wouldn't be surprised to see a RG28XXSP release around the same time.

[rain nacelle]

Wouldn't that be funny lol

[hoary cave]

Pls

[vernal shore]

Honestly prior clamshells have all been too big to be truly pocketable with normal pants pockets, so I would welcome a 28xxsp

[worldly crag]

who knows now that miyoo leaked one im sure anbernic will be racing to put one out

although I think the 28XX didnt do well for them in comparison to their other XX devices

[narrow pawn]

Hopefully

although id be all for a rg34xxh just as an SP

so basically same dimensions

same feel

same color options

same thickness

better hardware

and no forehead

[river ferry]

this implies anbernic will race to do anything instead of just strolling along past miyoo like the flash

https://tenor.com/view/iamnotandreakidd-gif-18834566

unfortunately anbernic got mogged by the miyoo a30 in terms of general functionality due to infinitely better controls + analog stick as well as the trimui smart already being better than the rg28xx for the same functionality

[worldly crag]

It sounds better than maxzhou seems to be one of the most petty people in the world

[river ferry]

being petty is so fun

[limber lily]

"What we are about to release is Mini Flip" - got a promising update in this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/MiyooMini/comments/1moy2p1/v2_stop_production_v3_coming/

[stiff ether]

TL;DR for lazy people

[rain nacelle]

So the grey model problem was from overheating during the manufacturing process...

[magic pewter]

That's why you always use timers when cooking

[flat slate]

probably V3 will release when they will get rid of V2 stock 😄

[stiff ether]

V3 will release when 2027 happens and people forget about the p60

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-forget-poop-people-dont-forget-gif-12564846

I will want P60 until about a week before it actually launches and get bored

[blazing brook]

A lot of nothing eventually leads to a small bit of something huh

[wide crescent]

I think people want the p60 because it's kinda like a psp formfactor but for retro gaming

ehh, I mean psp is retro gaming aswell

so

[river ferry]

i like it because miyoo has always had the best control to screen ratio

controls aren't overburdening the screen real estate

obviously the p60 is long dead and not releasing, even if it were to it would be in some different form with a different chipset

but the actual device design itself is near peak for me

[azure prawn]

There is def something just right about their layouts

[stuck laurel]

"Control to screen ratio" is such a good way to put it. Looks like a perfect device to toss in a pocket or bag.

[hoary cave]

People have no taste

H700 power and 480p screen in something barely bigger than the q36 mini from powkiddy (their funkey clone) is amazing

8 hour battery life on ps1 on a micro handheld

It functionally obsoletes every previous micro/nano handheld with their 240p screens and “requires tweaks to make the ps1 library partially playable” chipsets

I think it just lost hype momentum because the portrait display delayed it getting muOS

But now that it has it is insanely good for the size

[torn lynx]

there's a few other issues with it, but yeah this is the main thing we see with devices getting muOS. rotated displays, wifi not working, inputs not being recognized by the system, lack of Linux kernel support, etc. all affect the dev process for new devices in the dev pipeline

[rain nacelle]

28xx is my favourite device from that line lol

Only problem I have with it are the shoulder buttons

But it's got one of my favourite D-pads on any handheld

3100mAh battery on a handheld that small is also incredible

Especially since power consumption is lower with a smaller screen

[hoary cave]

CubeXX I hear good things about but I haven’t tried that one

I have 35xxSP, 34xx (the og one), and 28xx

[vernal shore]

I love my 40xx, so comfortable with a decent screen. Honestly my dream device would be a 40xx with sliders, inline triggers and a chipset running android. Give it something like the snapdragon 662 or helio g99 to let it play older stuff and decent battery.

[hoary cave]

If I could design an XX line device it would be the 406 screen on a flat pocketable slab with in-line triggers, one slider, sega dpad top, 6 face buttons, a chip good enough for n64 and psp, and take aesthetic inspiration from the sega nomad

[vernal shore]

Now that would be interesting

You know what, I would pay a pretty penny for a nomad sized thin with a decent screen and controls and a giant battery

[vernal shore]

I would also take an h700 device in a dmg sized and styles shell with a similarly monstrous battery for days of playtime

[hoary cave]

an actually good battery bank/handheld combo would be nice

from a company that actually makes handhelds, using a chip that will get CFW

whether that's DMG or nomad themed I'm down for either

but I think nomad is more unique

[stoic crescent]

^ i just need up to ps1 and 10k mah
Dont need a big screen either, could be a 2.8 vertical dpad only

[blazing brook]

I liked my cubeXX a lot when I had it

[bitter moss]

You're absolutely correct. I have a Nomad in a bag that still gets occasional use. But for the true Nomad experience the new handheld would have to have a special "crappy screen simulation" shader and an external battery pack that dies every 90 minutes and requires you to dip into your bag of extras to continue gameplay.

For bonus points my Nomad (and extras) is in a CDX bag. But to this channel's purpose, if the mini flip is actually exactly the same electronics as the MM, I'd still buy it. If it was a well hinged (hinged like a henge) but tiny versino of the Miyoo Flip, then I'd buy more than one.

[wet scroll]

Honestly, the 28xx was near flawless, it just needed wifi

[coarse saffron]

I wouldn't call it near flawless at all, but it is a shame Anbernic doesn't seem interested in polishing it.

[charred trail]

not a fan of the 28xx, the buttons were too small and I got a bad screen on my unit. The design was also uncomfortable to hold for a long time - that corner really dug into my hand.

Went back to my Smart. The A30 blows it out of the water, frankly, and the Zero 28 eats both of them for lunch, but it is a chonk.

[reef marlin]

trimui smart with minui is the patrician micro combo for transit play

[charred trail]

trimui smart also built like a tank

[river ferry]

trimui has never missed once

[dense falcon]

Have you tried Quark?

[eternal frost]

https://tenor.com/view/quark-ds9-deep-space-nine-star-trek-gif-12324308603221991744

[reef marlin]

hadnt heard of it but looks good, will give it a try

[stone charm]

Any updates if this is still being developed along?

[rain nacelle]

Nope

It's a Miyoo custom to announce things and then barely give any info for months

[wet scroll]

Did miyoo even announce it? I thought that weird telegram account announced it - the one that pretends to be official but people seem to suggest its not official

[rain nacelle]

I didn't want to bother with going back all the way for the official announcement, but this should be proof enough

[flat slate]

so its 3 months already since the original (and unofficial) reveal 🙁

[azure prawn]

Haha get ready

We'll all be playing on brain implants when this drops

[limber lily]

Who knows what this means, but they recently did say Mini Flip is coming out before the Flip V3 ("What we are about to release is Mini Flip": https://discordapp.com/channels/741895796315914271/1372499987606405171/1405178939244150834)

[runic bane]

Hoping they slap a headphone jack on there

[torpid shard]

So Miyoo Flip V3 is not going to happen!

[azure prawn]

That's assuming their AliExpress support staff would even know

I find it hard to believe they'd discontinue the mini with no follow-up

[torpid shard]

I'm talking about the Flip, which was a disaster!

Just like the A30 😛

[azure prawn]

Oh sorry. Haha

I totally missread

Yeah. That makes total sense. Was a pretty bad garbage fire

[torpid shard]

And they want to release the Flip Mini, just lol!

I can already hear the hinges cracking 😄

[azure prawn]

God praying they don't. It's my perfect companion device. Lol

[stiff ether]

That is taken so far outta context lol

[left urchin]

Is there a device you actually like?

[flat slate]

But A30 initially really had terrible reviews, just watch RGC review

[rain nacelle]

A30 had a horrible release, but has really come around

After the initial batch, they fixed the D-pad problems

And outside of that, Spruce carries it extremely hard, since the stock firmware is genuinely terrible

What I wanna say is that the device now has a cult following, but idk if that phrase is accurate or not

AliExpress prices indicate that it's selling well enough

Miyoo Flip V2 can be gotten for €55~ during a sale, when it launched for around €80

Even during a sale, you're spending more than €40 on an A30

[loud tulip]

Or stock is running out.

It's doubled in price over what it was after the initial price drop in the UK.

It did also give us that great Joey review where he just laid into it the entire time. So that alone justified its existence

[steady timber]

say "the fucken hinge ya cuns" hahaha

[rain nacelle]

Regardless of whether or not the A30 is good, I love handhelds that are themed after the Famicom

Gold front and red back? Beautiful

[thorny cobalt]

Classic

[magic pewter]

I liked the A30 enough to get two

[river ferry]

probably because the a30 is the greatest console ever made

[torpid shard]

AYN ODIN 2 😉

[torpid shard]

Also overall plastic and new colors would be welcome, but we all know this one is dead for good!

Still miss my boy P60 ❤️

[left urchin]

A30 is fantastic

It is by far my favorite handheld

[runic bane]

Whats the current 64 and dreamcast performance on a30? Thanks

[stiff ether]

Fantastic

Til the battery runs out

I love it tho

[left urchin]

N64 is great! Most games run surprisingly well

I don’t mess with DC but Kitfox sure does lol

[stiff ether]

I abuse DC/PsP/N64 like it's my Day Job

Just don't ask me to play PsP on the A30, my eyes just aren't what they used to be

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[worldly crag]

could always go hardmode and use that crop filter 🤣

who needs UI

[narrow pawn]

Kinda glad it wont

Unless they remove sticks and cover up the numerous screw holes

[wide crescent]

It would be a downgrade to many people

but I guess if it was like 5 dollars cheaper that way I would be down

more aestetically pleasing aswell

[abstract frost]

https://tenor.com/view/no-smosh-gif-25397022

Screws should be visible

[river ferry]

why did people get "we're making v3 but it won't be released soon" to mean "we are not making v3"

[wide crescent]

imagine if miyoo somehow found a high res screen to use with a v3 design, now that would be an instant buy for me

[narrow pawn]

Ig so

But they had so many in weird places it looked a bit ugly

[worldly crag]

When did we start refering to the troll known as snake, as "people "

[red merlin]

don't dehumanize me 😢

[rain nacelle]

Yeah Snake didn't do nuffin

Snæke though

Blocking him ain't enough

[stiff ether]

This was how Hopium got banned

Wumput

W/e

[rain nacelle]

[stiff ether]

Bruh

[rain nacelle]

I was more just showing that I was paraphrasing a meme lol

[left urchin]

@rain nacelle I deleted those messages….. don’t mess around like that.

It’s not taken lightly here

[rain nacelle]

I'm sorry about that

[abstract frost]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[torpid shard]

You have a problem with me? Sorry but sometimes people can't handle the truth and yes I hate Miyoo

And yes I sometimes like to troll - welcome to the Internet

[worldly crag]

feeling a bit senile there thats the second time you've responded to that

maybe should up your trolling game

[torpid shard]

There's two of us here

[rain nacelle]

It's just the neverending negativity. Whenever I see you anywhere, it's to say something sucks

Just a bit tiring

[torpid shard]

Well, close your eyes then

Or block me!

[rain nacelle]

In any case

I won't have anybody acting like Snake and Snæke are the same person

They are not

[worldly crag]

they're snakes 🐍

[dense basin]

this community reveals so much of the human consumer's condition

[red merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-pointing-gif-14917655

[azure prawn]

I only want to hear positivity to reinforce my bad purchases goddamnit!

[torpid shard]

Now I actually want the Miyoo Mini Flip 😎

I hope Miyoo one day will bring back my P60 boy 🥹

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-be-only-one-highlander-gif-12213479

just gonna have to fight to the death I guess

[torpid shard]

LOL 😛

[red merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-metal-gear-solid-game-gif-13999306

[desert sun]

Woah, looking forward to your opinion about it!

[left urchin]

I got word just now they are gonna send me one too! Really hopeful the hinge is better.

They called it an “engineering unit” so fingers crossed it’s early enough for them to address any hardware feedback

Just use a gate hinge lol

[remote rapids]

So this is a real thing still coming interesting

[left urchin]

I had my doubts

But sending samples is a good sign

[azure prawn]

This still in my top 5 most anticipated so fingers crossed

Loved the mini. Mini but even more pocketable. Let's go

[remote rapids]

So did they ever say is it the same SOC as the MeU mini

[worldly crag]

afaik yeah but I dont know if I ever check sources on that

not sure if that account was ever confirmed as official but its been around since ever

[left urchin]

We gotta reach out to the allium dev tbh

[left urchin]

That’s assuming the hardware is what they said it is

[worldly crag]

Mimiflip

new official name

[arctic rampart]

Damn, this is happening!

[nimble rivet]

Flip Mini in your hands and you putting something on it is the best news I've read on this Discord server in months.
Excited to see what comes out of this.

Did they tell you about the release date of this device?

[river ferry]

Guess who is also getting sent a dev unit for the mini flip

Not me

But it would be cool if they did though

[arctic rampart]

Did they give any time frame for when you guys would see them?

[left urchin]

Nope

[nimble rivet]

Well shucks. OnionOS is definitely the chosen one. When you have a chance let us know what you think of the device. Especially the hinge. 😛

[azure prawn]

Yeah. Hinge detection and just plain old onion sounds great to me

The ultimate portable one hander 😆

All I want

[keen cove]

Very cute, nice bezels too

Can't be comfy though

[left urchin]

Haha I was like where u getting these pictures

Checked my messages

They asked what color I want and sent that!

Just grey

[river ferry]

I like that pink/gold combo

Sun you gotta tell them you actually need a second shipped to WV for reasons

[azure prawn]

Gotta go yellow. Only if it's mini v4 yellow and not flip yellow

[arctic rampart]

My wife is going crazy for the pink

[haughty steppe]

I'd put the white's buttons inside the pink model... would look nicer to my eyes

[dull patrol]

Snes US if i had to pick. But im burned after the Flip 2. So will wait for long term reviews before i pick one of these up

[vagrant matrix]

If it’s using the same chip and screen, why would the mini v4 supposedly be getting discontinued? That makes zero sense to me.

[worldly crag]

supposedly

[limber lily]

I figured it was messaging to get folks to buy the mini flip, or buy up the current stock of V4s (or both). But as with all things miyoo it's hard to know what is official communication or not

[elfin maple]

How can we not have a black option

[wide crescent]

I think this could be a very cool little portable machine

especially with how small those bezels are

a micro handheld that has a decently sized screen

[torn pendant]

Bet this would feel really solid as a one hand device, just a little square on your palm with the screen at an angle

[dusty sorrel]

the bottom bezel throws me off and I don't really like the colours. But if it can do Onion I'm probably in anyway, will wait for reviews

[eternal frost]

Wow, they picked the worst possible colors for the buttons on the pink one

[worldly crag]

what color for the buttons?
idk how about irish suntan?

[eternal frost]

More like vomit

[worldly crag]

buttons are cooked bro

[eternal frost]

It would have been great with the pastel buttons and light gray d-pad from the white one

[visual basalt]

i hope this thing gets wifi

it will lets gooooo

[worldly crag]

its supposed to yeah

[visual basalt]

i might actually get this

its so cute

[worldly crag]

its going to be smol af me likely

[visual basalt]

i want a decent micro console that has wifi

[azure prawn]

I dunno why but the mini v4 never felt micro to me. Pixel 2. Def

[potent tide]

Just curious, do people actually plan on buying a $50-60 handheld with a chip that's a few years old just because of onion? When onion isn't even in active development anymore?

btw i'm just assuming this will cost $50-60 on launch based on miyoo's past devices

[visual basalt]

i might wait to see how the hinge holds up tbh

but if they figure it out then ill get one

especially since it has wifi

it would be a lovely lil micro console

so, yes

if it isnt poorly made

tried and true

[stiff ether]

Ps1 & Under. It just works

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[visual basalt]

im happy to see a clamshell without sticks honestly

[stiff ether]

Especially since it's Ps1 & Under, but for real this time

No hope of PsP, DC, N64 to be found

[visual basalt]

good

[stiff ether]

That yellow is sexy

[visual basalt]

i dont put systems on my devices unless i can play everything that system has to offer

[stiff ether]

Also, HI tenlevels

I dont trust Miyoo & Grey in the same sentence anymore

[rotund jetty]

No 3.5 jack, no interest

[visual basalt]

wait.... wtf

[stiff ether]

I dont play games with Audio unless I'm testing stuff anyway. Pirate Music = best sound track ❤️

PakUI on Old A7 chip?

[rotund jetty]

You should have said “copy v90”

That would be less offensive

[stiff ether]

A133P at least isn't on their radar to use in their devices

I wonder if this device even has a Hinge Support Mechanism????

Kinda like the V90S issue

I dont see room above the screen for one

[wide crescent]

would love a black option

if it's not available maybe the snes style but then I would be afraid of the notorious miyoo flip hinge issues

[ember spindle]

Where my cobalt lovers at? Need me some retro GBA-SP love

[stiff ether]

A red Model would have been awesome

[visual basalt]

they do look nice

is that a lanyard hole i see?

[stiff ether]

Probably

[ember spindle]

Bottom right? Looks like it, perfect for commuting

[visual basalt]

i hope they figure out a decent hinge

cuz id love one of these

[wide crescent]

It could be used as a keychain I guess

[rain nacelle]

The pink Mini Flip reminds me of neapolitan ice cream

[arctic rampart]

This thing is hype, and if they botch it then at least it will get the ball rolling on this form factor.

[wicked ember]

All handhelds should come with a lanyard hole.

[azure prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fuckyeah-yeah-ya-yes-yup-gif-4452705827323388966

[potent tide]

if i'm not mistaken the hinge close sensor was in the actual hinge itself on the flip, maybe they'll do the same thing here

[stiff ether]

No clue, usually these companies put it towards the top of the Screen. That way 2 magnets meet and active the mechanism

This is the "Typical" way, Anbernic has it in both the 35xxSP & 34xxSP. Miyoo has it as well

[potent tide]

You’re right most put it at the top, but the miyoo flip didn’t. Hopefully they do the same thing here and not pull a Powkiddy and leave it out lol

[stiff ether]

If they did tho, someone should have sent the Onion devs a Unit or told Miyoo to send the Onion Devs one. Because it's been Radio silence on their end on all public ends

[midnight hull]

I wouldn’t call this more pocketable than the mini when it’s 50% thicker tbh

[arctic rampart]

I doubt it will be 50% thicker?

[river ferry]

[midnight hull]

It’ll have the same thickness as the regular Miyoo Flip judging from the photos. Put a mini and a Flip next to each other and you’ll see what I mean

[rain nacelle]

The guy who posted the image of colourways seems to have since deleted the image

Here we go

No doubt, this will definitely be bigger than the original Miyoo Mini

[stiff ether]

Because miyoo asked him to remove the Picture from All Social media

[rain nacelle]

...Should I also remove this then?

[echo seal]

miyoo about to learn about the streisand effect lol

[rain nacelle]

I mean it's just the colourways lol

I don't see what the big deal is

[echo seal]

i dunno, those fleshy buttons on the pink one are pretty obscene

[rain nacelle]

It's actually far from our first time seeing this colour scheme

My personal suggestion

White D-pad and menu buttons

Browner face buttons

Boom

Delish

[azure prawn]

Heh. Pretty good match

[torpid shard]

I want this, but I'm waiting for the Version 3.

It's Miyoo.

[vague pier]

Its already being used in ads lol.

[vague pier]

Black model confirmed. I expect to see it listed on mechdiy within the hour.

I was being hyperbolic.

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-ice-baby-vanilla-ice-rap-musiv-video-gif-11959717673329722264

Ice blue like the v4 when

I guess they hate money

Miyoo A30 wut

wonder if thats still happening

I dont think that one will sell worth a damn

its so samey

implying that miyoo will somehow be able to fix that

afaik its been spotted on all linux a133p devices even the unpopular ones

ah new chip makes it a bit better

hopefully its at least a rk3566

[river ferry]

I'd daily carry if it was as quality as the mmp

And if it was no bigger than the brick

[worldly crag]

it already looks bigger than the brick but idk probably not meaningfully bigger

[stiff ether]

It looks so good tho

Brick with Sticks

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[worldly crag]

it might even come out soon

that render was from a year ago

[wide crescent]

r36s ahh handheld

every vertical with sticks on the bottom is just destined to be an r36s clone

[worldly crag]

kek im not digging around for that

ill take your word for it

looks cute

yeah they're a choice for sure

idk why companies have such a fear over blanked out buttons

R33S whiteout edition was peak

i could do without the legends either

too bad they almost ripped it off good

better chipset at least

[fair fulcrum]

The 35xx Plus was a bit more comfortable compared to the MMP but MMP originally had the better firmware. Now there's so many options for these H700s. What a time to be alive.

[stiff ether]

i could do without the Center Reset button...

[stiff ether]

there is the cube XX and then a ton of wrong choices

1:1 Supremacy

[fair fulcrum]

Haha I have the cube xx. Haven't really used it much yet though.

[stiff ether]

pico 8 is love

[river ferry]

Supposedly all these options for H700 and yet nothing with a 3.2" screen with inset sticks

[nimble rivet]

The TSP Mini might be 3:2 with inset sticks

[rain nacelle]

TSP Mini definitely has a 3:2 screen

One that's likely 3.5 or 3.4"

[nimble rivet]

Some folks were saying that it’s 4:3 but it looks 3:2 to me.

[rain nacelle]

I agree

[potent tide]

This is what the rp classic should’ve been

Vita sticks? Nooooooo

[stiff ether]

Probably the same exact sticks as they had on the Flip tbh

They aren't terrible, they do click

But, because they do have less of a Lid to worry about, I do wonder if they are way easier to modify out. Maybe just go straight for JoyCons at that point

[potent tide]

oh yea i forgot they used those on the flip

[stiff ether]

Most people forgot about the Flip tbh

[wide crescent]

with the chipset it has it definitely needed some sticks

[rain nacelle]

I thought those were just joy con sticks with unique caps tbh

[stiff ether]

They are Vita sticks but they Click with L3/R3, it's hard to know for sure since these Manufacturers don't talk much to us and keep alot private

Most of us just do alot of speculation

[runic bane]

is there a headphone jack or am i gonna have to buy usb headphones on devices going forward?

[visual basalt]

youd have to get a usb c to 3.5mm dongle

[wide crescent]

phone users are already used to this so shouldn't feel that out of place

[stiff ether]

Except we don't know if this device will have Bluetooth lol

[wide crescent]

I'm betting it all on it wont

[left urchin]

I’m thinking it’ll be like the a30

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-dongle-useless-nonsense-defective-idle-gif-15246773

[dry matrix]

That, or get USB-C wired earbuds.
Something like the USB-C Earpods pretty much

[visual basalt]

actually this with a usb c dac sounds kinda awesome ngl

wish it had more than one usb-c port but whatre ya gonna do

[dry matrix]

I don’t usually play my handhelds while they’re charging anyways, so I could probably make do with just one port

Sucks to not have the option tho

[worldly crag]

honestly we bitch about no 3.5mm jacks alot but USB-C DAC'd headphones arent expensive at all anymore and are going to be way better than any onboard DAC/Amp setup these companies use

assuming they dont use some super scuffed C port which isnt always the case

fucking miyoo a30

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

[rain nacelle]

Yes?

What about it

[worldly crag]

super scuffed usb-c port

[rain nacelle]

I got mine right in front of me, though it's one of the early batch units with a shitty D-pad, so I've barely used it

What's wrong with the port?

[worldly crag]

It's just very much not to spec.
No 51k resistors to signal 5v from PD chargers. Weird audio over spare pins so weird otg support

Haven't tried to do too much with it but definitely appears to be pretty messed up

[fair fulcrum]

A lot of these devices have crappy USB C implementation

[stiff ether]

Why do we hide our Gaming with Headphones anyway????

Blast that Volume at Max and let the world know you game and are proud

[river ferry]

And never mute your mic when you pee

[hoary cave]

They already know anbernic is gonna drop a 28xxSP as soon as it looks like the miyoo mini flip is almost done

[river ferry]

give me a 28xxsp ds with bottom touch

[fierce sparrow]

I would love a 28XXSP, or hell even a 28XXV miyoo mini competitor

Miyoo Mini without being immensely fragile

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-pawn-star-20bucks-the-best-i-can-do-the-best-i-can-do-is20bucks-gif-15253458

and an r36s teir 2.8" clone

[left urchin]

Tbh an r28s would be legit

WiFi, Portmaster, splore

Rk3326 isn’t great but it’s certainly viable for lots of stuff.

[worldly crag]

I havent seen it for sale anywhere yet but its an "a10 mini"

https://handhelds.wiki/A10_mini

photos of it kinda just appeared a few weeks? ago

nvm a few sellers now but not cheap

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009886459122.html?pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"-1"}

Seeing $60USD shipped to CA

[river ferry]

This will be Miyoo Mini in 2025

[echo seal]

we have miyoo at home

[torpid shard]

So expensive 🫰 But why?

Also that dpad 🤦

[potent tide]

I ain’t gonna lie…. I kinda like it lol

[rain nacelle]

I expect the D-pad to suck, but I don't see the problem with how it looks

[nimble rivet]

Is this an old or new release ? I can’t tell

[river ferry]

An old upcoming release is a bit oxymoronic I think

[dusty tapir]

A33 huh

Same screen as a30

Would make for a straight port of spruce

Apart from control stuff

[left urchin]

No I mean the usbc audio out dongle BS

They say it’s the same mini/+ chip

[stiff ether]

If they made the Mini Flip the same chip as the A30.....that would just be convenient. But also Great for performance on that little device

[azure prawn]

I wouldn't hate it. But I do like onion more than spruce

[left urchin]

Yeah spruce kinda blows tbh 😝 😉 🤪

[remote rapids]

Mine is in the US at customs

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-godspeed-parks-boys-suck-gif-5433762

I hope its not as cursed as that dpad looks

[nimble rivet]

Looking forward to your video review of it.

[brisk flare]

obviously not the same dpad but I really like the Miyoo Flip's dpad

[hoary cave]

for me it would be h700 (not expecting miyoo to make that) > 3566 > sigmastar ssd202d > a33

[brisk flare]

you're not going to get Retroid level dpads at this price point, so I like how Miyoo goes with their dpads (bit more clicky/solid)

[brisk flare]

tbf the RP Classic can keep their SD card slot, I do like it a lot over the regular SD card slot on other devices

but yeah this design is a lot better lol

longer device for better ergonomics + sticks for emulating more powerful systems since it can now do 3DS/Switch better with optimised emulators

[prisma oasis]

Do we think this will actually come out?

[visual basalt]

iunno

mayhaps

[worldly crag]

apparently being sent to some devs now

[rain nacelle]

It will definitely come out, it's just that Miyoo takes forever to release things lol

[tawny peak]

[slate patio]

unlikely, and if it will, possibly in second half of 2026

imo

[river ferry]

november december

miyoo 321 next year

[slate patio]

completely forgot about 321

[wide crescent]

why does miyoo have such a slow release scedule?

[stiff ether]

Ask, Miyoo on AliExress. They Respond lol

[worldly crag]

accurate 6% of the time, answers every time

https://tenor.com/view/sex-panther-paul-rudd-rawr-gif-14401967

[arctic rampart]

I wonder if anbernic will beat them out the gate again

[worldly crag]

I wish they would find better dome switches for their clamshells

If they manage that id consider a 28XX flip

[slate patio]

28XX SP

[worldly crag]

but what does the SP stand for

other than random letters ninty used 🤣

28XX special ed

[wide crescent]

only if it has wifi and jack

[slate patio]

reportedly Special

or Second Package

[wide crescent]

Novadays sp just mean clamshell

[arctic rampart]

Dude the controls on the 35xxsp were not my favorite. The buttons weren't bad, they were just mid. I used to be team clicky buttons are fine but now I want it silent.

[worldly crag]

Yeah not bad but its not like its hard to source better dome switches

even the 35xx SP 'v2's' lighter ones are pretty bad

[echo seal]

trimui uses the best domes imo

[worldly crag]

trimUI & retroid yeah
but like I said its not hard or expensive to just not get domes made for fucking car remotes

[charred trail]

I thought the 35XXSP controls were good 😩
Clearly I am a pleb

[mighty saddle]

ya i thought the 35xxsp was good too

felt like og sp

[wide crescent]

people complained about the micro switches being too loud no?

[worldly crag]

maybe I got a fucky one but I very much disagree

35XX sp buttons are heavier and its not even close

and my 3ds gets like no heavy use

and the 35xx is a new v2 after they "fixed" the buttons

im not joking when I say they feel like the got buttons for a shitty car keyfob

[stiff ether]

Buttons are hard to press, makes gaming a Task. How hard is everyone pressing down on their rubber membranes?!?!?!

[grim beacon]

No you’re right. I hated my 35xx sp, largely because of the buttons. Way too loud, even after the tape mod, and genuinely fatiguing to press down on for longer than a couple minutes. It was also too thick for me, started to hurt my hands after a little bit of play time. I switched to the Miyoo flip and never looked back

[brisk sand]

34xxsp buttons are great compared to 35xxsp v1 and v2

really light and quiet

[arctic rampart]

I remember i played through symphony of the night and it pierced the membrane or some dumb shit after only like 30 hours of gameplay. Ergonomically it was good for me but yeah the buttons were cheap feeling compared to others I've used.

[azure prawn]

I see a cobalt... Mmmm

[lime atlas]

Any news on release date? Additionally, any updates about Onion OS working for it?

[worldly crag]

ill refer back to the old meme

that was for the flip tho
this is supposedly using the mm chipset so as long as they dont do anything fucky with all the other hardware is should be relatively painless

problem is most of the onion dev team has moved onto other stuff afaik

[lime atlas]

I judge all OS on an Onion OS scale. Most are crap but I am getting impressed with Anbernic stepping up their game. Still needs over the air updates though

[shut pulsar]

Oh yeah it should definitely be drop in if they don’t pull any fuckery.

-# Note: There likely will be fuckery given they apparently can’t find the original screens anymore and will have to use…the rotated screens.

[worldly crag]

thought the + was already a rotated screen anyway

[shut pulsar]

The plus wasn’t, the Miyoo A30 was.

The V4 was its own completely separate thing that caused its own issues, but it was also a native landscape screen like the Plus.

[worldly crag]

then why are boot logos required to be rotated 180 before loading

🤔

on the miyoo mini line

guess h/v-flip is alot easier to deal with than portrait orientation

[river ferry]

Wooo

[vagrant matrix]

Glad they still sent you one

[rotund jetty]

good, if its really coming close that could mean anbernic might finally make a 28xxsp to kill it

[stiff ether]

Same!

[river ferry]

Weird, they didn't ship mine yet 🤔

[inner gust]

[paper rose]

Dibs

[inner gust]

I have dibs on bans dibs

[charred trail]

pfft, kill it? that's another handheld to live in my desk drawer

[blazing brook]

Anbernic should drop the 28xxV just for me specifically

[arctic rampart]

This or my flip 2 will always be in my pocket

[blazing brook]

If this hits right it's my perfect clamshell so I got fingers crossed

[torpid shard]

Let us know about the hinges

[river ferry]

Unit arrives in two pieces

[hoary cave]

28xxVM styled like a bigger rg nano pls

[blazing brook]

I'd be in heaven dude

280V to this day is my goat

[charred trail]

Funkey Macro S

[arctic rampart]

Retroid Pocket Flip 0.2

[worldly crag]

fixed
Retroid Pocket Flip 0.02¢

[charred trail]

That's the rk3326 clone of this when it becomes mega popular
It'll run a 5 years old version of ArkOS

[dense basin]

WHEN

[ember spindle]

Gentlepeeps who are being shipped pre-release models, what's the word on arrival dates?

[runic bane]

Is there a known price? Thanks

[visual basalt]

ooooo

[stiff ether]

I cannot share the photo

The Hinge is superb, I wish the used the same Hinge in the new shell they just sent me for my Flip replacement......

It's so buttery smooth, but still has the Lock into place in the same spots, but doesn't click into each place. No awkward crunching, no Snapping, just beautiful gliding into each position. I really like this Hinge alot. It's back to typical Stock Miyoo OS tho, UnUsable. But I'm Hardcore Bias, I really dislike StockOS on almost all my Linux Based devices including the original Flip.

[worldly crag]

can try throwing onion os on it
pray they didnt dick with the panel and onion recognizes it as a V4
???
probably wouldnt work with wifi by defualt
profit

iirc if onion detects as a 480p theres an easy one line change to force it to recognize X firmware number as a v4 560 panel for resolution

[stiff ether]

I did, right away lol

It's so buggy it's border line unusable to most people. But I find it better than Miyoo stock . It won't recognize any of the Ports Games. I only tested a handful of things because I'm also still working with Spruce & UnofficialOS teams. So I do have other units and testing to do. Plus IRL stuff, so my testing time is limited. What I did test was.....disappointing, Battery life is going to require new levels of optimization. I was losing 1% Battery every 2 Minutes just exploring the Menu. During Set Up I had to limit my Mass Implementation of stuff to single tabs of Tasks because I was causing crashes, I.E. all of Apps then Press start to load, all of Expert then press start to load, etc. It was slow but it worked.

I have no working wifi and I have no solution because I tried what was suggested and it did not work lol

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mhmm-gif-6883948443707898732

eh its about what I expected slight dumpster fire but not hopeless

[stiff ether]

Typical Miyoo

[worldly crag]

im buying for the hardware feel
software i can be patient

[stiff ether]

Hardware, you won't be disappointed. It feels amazing, truly wonderful. I love it. Software, it's a Great reminder of why CFW exsists and what Miyoo is without a CFW team saving them from Themselves

[worldly crag]

yeah.jpg

at least they seem to know it and are being good about getting dev units to people

[azure prawn]

Holy shit. This is like amazing news

Literally all they had to do was make a non ass hinge

And it sounds like they did

[worldly crag]

now they just have to spit polish the os to "servicable" levels and ship it

hopefully that means not in 9months

[azure prawn]

Eh. Should just give it to devs with no OS. They could probably come up with something faster. Lol

[worldly crag]

I mean they have but the assumption that people will pick these up and instantly know to dump stock isnt always a given

thats why I said "servicable" and not good

it just needs to boot and play games w/ some stability for the probably large majority of people that buy these things on a whim without knowing anything

[stiff ether]

Miyoo....."serviceable OS"

What are you saying? Have you used a MM or MM+ without a CFW?

The Flip was the First time ever Miyoo ever made an OS people were willing to tolerate

[worldly crag]

it boots and loads games yes I guess my definition is just different then yours

[stiff ether]

When people get the Device in their hands, I promise I'm not trying to exaggerate how ass their Inability to make an OS is 🙏

The Battery Life is the Biggest Attoricity

[worldly crag]

did you open to check mah yet?

[stiff ether]

2500 mah

[worldly crag]

thats not terrible assuming its labeled correctly

kinda doubt it is tho

v4's are only 2000

doubt they crammed a bigger one in tbh

[stiff ether]

I think it's just Horribly optimized and the Buggy OnionOS claim was a Lie

Miyoo talking crap with no real claim

[worldly crag]

I mean I dont think they ever said it would

just that it used the v4/mini chipset

blame reddit for the "it will run onion guize" bs

[azure prawn]

It was more willing it into existence then anything else

Cause it's all they really needed to do

[worldly crag]

it will be interesting to see if a new model wakes the onionOS devs up from their sleeping beauty like slumber

because idk I think most of them moved on, doesnt bode well for the kind of fixes this might need to get working

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/olliesblog-ooft-olliesblog-oof-oof-olliesblog-oof-ollie-gif-7856127624386432749

[rain nacelle]

I heard the Miyoo Flip's stock OS was serviceable

But you're right otherwise

[stiff ether]

Flip only

[rain nacelle]

A30's stock was notoriously horrible

Lack of Onion on this is definitely a bummer

Is it still the same SoC as the Mini?

[stiff ether]

Same SoC, WiFi Chip, Same Config

[rain nacelle]

But Onion's incompatible...

Strange

Can you tell if the screen is the same as V4?

What with its peculiar resolution

Because I know one thing that's super important for devices running on that chipset is that the screens absolutely cannot be rotated

[stiff ether]

Same v4 screen

[rain nacelle]

Because the chipset is so weak that it has zero overhead

And rotating the display causes performance problems

[stiff ether]

I'm just reporting what I have in front of me lol

I reflashed OnionOS on a Fresh 64 Gb Sam Disk Extreme, 3 times. Used my own Locally Sourced and Harvested Roms/Bios. Even Used a Previously in service SD card in a MM+. All were working, but super Buggy. It has to be something specific in the unit itself

[rain nacelle]

Damn

That really sucks

Because I think the Onion team are effectively done developing the OS

[stiff ether]

I'm not saying I'm the Smartest, Best, or anything like that. But OnionOS is kinda Idiot Proof

So its definitely the device on this one

[rain nacelle]

Actually wait

Doesn't the same version of Onion work on both MM and MM+

They don't have different builds for each

[worldly crag]

kinda they have different firmwares and slighly different mods based on those fw's

but the codebase is for both

[rain nacelle]

My bad then

[worldly crag]

im going to go with buggy device (hardware wise)
or they somehow fucked up the firmware (which is fixable by them and kinda likely)

[rain nacelle]

Surely Miyoo themselves must be aware of how important it is that this device is Onion-compatible

So I think... I hope they sort it out

[stiff ether]

I'm going with Firmware, it's probably different in the code for sure

[stiff ether]

I'm talking with them about everything I can. Because they stock os is.........awful

[worldly crag]

how hard was it to just change the fucking battery value, add the wifi fw code (from the mm+) and maybe do a hinge detection

thats all they realistically had to do

[stiff ether]

Oh, it has Hinge Detection if that makes you feel better on stock os

It even has fully working with a Timer for Sleep to power off

[worldly crag]

anyway pakui as the go to mmf os?

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494737

[stiff ether]

You like the Current StockOS? Or do you mean something else?

Did you get your Unit? How do you like it?

[worldly crag]

shallotS isnt taken yet

[stiff ether]

AAAAA

Fair point

I mean, Spruce just got our Nighty with A30 on Python CFW. No more MainUI stock Mod

Shaun is a Generous god

I appreciate everything that he is and does

[worldly crag]

yeah imo going to do the same thing probably keeping mainUI skinning it and replaceing cores
tbh the only other thing I want on this from onionOS is webFTP

[stiff ether]

Limited Edition tenlevels Spruce resurrection????

[worldly crag]

kek you mean you didnt save tenlevel special edition

I think i do if you want

its under some digital pile

[left urchin]

I do lol

I have EVERYTHING

[potent tide]

That’s not actually miyoo, it’s some guy named Alejandro that pretends to be miyoo all across social media lol

[stiff ether]

That is Hilarious 😂

I'm glad I'm dumb enough to fall for it like others

[potent tide]

Yea lol, if you click on the beacons link in the twitter bio it’ll take you to his YouTube/isntagram/etc. My least favorite part is he posts aliexpress affiliate links on all of his accounts as well as Reddit without disclosing them as such, so people think they’re buying from a legit miyoo account and this dudes probably making all kinds of money from it

[stiff ether]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[left urchin]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M-kF4Fh7vV4VcdNBTUFJifYfK9lxkPcL/view?usp=drivesdk

[azure prawn]

Oh I know. But Gamma to the rescue!!!

Point is CFW would happen with or without an os

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-jeff-goldblum-life-finds-a-way-gif-8405245

Don't get me wrong. I love onion

But if the hinge is god-like on this, someone will make something happen

[nimble rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-eating-popcorn-popcorn-plankton-meme-plankton-yes-gif-18251234252356731757

[stiff ether]

1. Gamma cannot Rescue Every device. He is 1 guy and busy as well. We love him dearly, but have to learn to rely on others or our selves at some point
2. Resecting the wishes of the Devs is important, maybe someone Besides the Oldler teams who used to work on the previous devices can pick up the torch. Maybe not Onion or MinUI. Maybe it's time for 1 of the Newer Teams? Or maybe it's time for Android

last part is a joke I swear

Super Lineage OS, just Run on Android 3.0

[worldly crag]

Im far to salty to helm any foss project 🤣

I know time to becoming stenzek is like 2 months max for me

well maybe not that bad

but enough to know that being in charge of a FOSS project is detrimental to my personal wellness

[stiff ether]

Android Honeycomb time!

[nimble rivet]

Can we assume this will be on the MMF?

[stiff ether]

We love and appreciate you

[azure prawn]

@nocturne rampart you see this smack they're talking?

[stiff ether]

He knows

I told him

[azure prawn]

But all jokes aside. Yes, I hope it's not ass and that porting onion isn't a bitch 😆

[stiff ether]

"Best I can do is a Boot Logo"

• Gamma

[azure prawn]

Fuck

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-this-is-fine-im-fine-burning-funny-gif-12189737

[nocturne rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-out-line-but-right-gif-22029772

[stiff ether]

Ok, I just received in the Mail a 35xxSP & a V90S. Both Devices have known "Perfered" or "Good" Hinges. The Mini Flip has a Good Hinge.

Thank you for reading this, can I get a Pin Please 🙏

[azure prawn]

For the love of God pin that message. Lol

[azure prawn]

As soon as this nears release in 3 years channel will be flooded with hinge anarchists

[stiff ether]

Proof I now have them in my possession

[azure prawn]

This is getting me overly excited. Especially since we're years away

https://tenor.com/view/tired-af-stressed-back-to-work-working-gif-14479863

[fallow meadow]

Hahaha same im getting excited about someone unboxing their mini flip

[left urchin]

Last Miyoo dev unit to public release was only a few weeks

[dense epoch]

I need it 😅

[worldly crag]

so what you're saying is no stupid purchases for the next few weeks

so I can make sure I have enought to not get smacked for another stupid purchase

[left urchin]

Just don’t preorder anything from an “official” store lol

[worldly crag]

i dont do preorders

[visual basalt]

again hopefully the usb c is more than just for charging since this has no headphone jack

[azure prawn]

Oh the optimism

[grim beacon]

Is this something public or am I stupid for looking?

Because I can’t see anything

[worldly crag]

its just a blank placeholder for where its going to be

[grim beacon]

Ah, that makes more sense

[azure prawn]

Hopefully speakers are improved in final software

Was there an update?

[visual basalt]

thats good it comes with a dongle, i assume u can also use ur own for better dacs

especially with a bad speaker itll come in handy lol

[echo seal]

that's fortunate, does it sound any less shit tho?

[stiff ether]

i thought MiniUI didnt work on V4 screen?

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-crit-role-arsequeef-matt-mercer-gif-12358538

[echo seal]

this would be a great candidate for it

oof, that's unfortunate (but expected)

[stiff ether]

that would explain why i never noticced. i dont play with sound

[echo seal]

was hoping they'd stick with the same speaker as the og mini

at least there's upgrades for that

[stiff ether]

its a clamshell with limited space, best of luck with that

[echo seal]

yah, probably one of those crappy ultra-thin ones that just stick on

[visual basalt]

its such a baby

i like the look of it

[stiff ether]

it looks so much bigger in your hands than in mine

[echo seal]

yah, wish there was an all-black model but it looks like something that could actually live in my pocket

[stiff ether]

if the Flip V3 has this hinge, its a win

[echo seal]

sheeeiiiit, i said i was done but i'm so in lol

[visual basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/just-when-i-thought-i-was-out-they-pull-me-back-in-godfather-the-godfather-gif-16147497

[stiff ether]

I have used Stock OS and Onion OS. Both are mapped Correctly

I would, but I'm currently transferring Files to a good SD card while I can

My stock Card, I don't Trust it 🤣

[visual basalt]

fuuuck i forgot the miyoo mini only has like GMU for music playback

[left urchin]

MinUI on there that’s epic

[visual basalt]

someone should get to porting rockbox on it

[left urchin]

Ffplay

[visual basalt]

im too dumb to do so

[visual basalt]

mehhh

i mean like a ui too

[stiff ether]

Rockbox IS all that, and a bag of chips

[visual basalt]

its so good

this + rockbox oh lordy

[stiff ether]

We should summon Shaun

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

[grim beacon]

I’m curious how you hold this thing. I had the mini v4 at one point and felt it was too small to comfortably hold for any longer than a few minutes. TrimUI brick is better but still pushing it. I’m curious how this feels compared to those.

[stiff ether]

The Flip is great, I agree. Mini Flip has the better Hinge tho

[left urchin]

Smart kid lol 😂

[stiff ether]

Wow, he is a Smart kid

[left urchin]

Allium?

[stiff ether]

Sun's Unit got sent well past him to the Mega hub

[grim beacon]

Yeah the flip is insanely comfy imo

[echo seal]

got a brick handy for some comparison shots?

[grim beacon]

Or a brick flip

[nimble rivet]

I see it as well

[echo seal]

awesome, thank you!

[nimble rivet]

Looks like somebody likes black devices

I have no idea 🤷

So the MMF Black one is fully black or will it have the colored face buttons?

[stiff ether]

@fresh spade I got Allium on my Mini Flip now

L1/L2 flipped here tho

Weird, I will try again. Maybe I'm wrong and just didn't try hard enough?

its @left urchin fault

also, @fresh spade yes. L1/L2 are swapped on stock OS. im just a scrub and never noticed

"Kinda tired of people talking bad about Miyoo Jank"

Miyoo lives in the Jank, its their thing

you mean CFW support*

we got this 💪

cfw teams go brrrrrr

im so positive its in their SD card they sent lol

nope, feels about the same. maybe slightly clickyer. but its so closer i would call it identical

Miyoo QC at its finest i see

i would call my unit Perfect with Allium

my wife hates the "Kraft Mack n Cheese" Yellow

i told her she cant play with it then

my kid loves it

I'm currently trying out different file formats on Stock OS

So Far, I learned it cannot read Zipped Files At all. And next is finding out if it can Handle .chd

Also, I learned the Ps1 games were stored in .pbp which is awful

Oh, I don't have working wifi on my unit

Miyoo says that is my fault btw

Mine refused to work on any CFW or Stock

Done

[left urchin]

So is it basically just the hinge open/close that’d need to get added to allium?

I think the mini has sleep?

[blazing brook]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-shocked-gif-26271509

How's the dpad and face buttons feel so far?

Also I'm reeeeeeal excited for this

Excellent

I'm ok with subpar shoulders as long as those are on point

Same here

I use em more for hotkey stuff

[rain nacelle]

Actually I've been meaning to ask

Are the D-pad and face buttons more like Miyoo Mini's than Miyoo Flip's?

They look like they are, but that's just the caps

[potent tide]

i would think they would be dome switches like the miyoo flip instead of rubber membranes like the og miyoo

[woeful tinsel]

Are the face buttons loud and clicky? That was the main reason I sold my og 35xx sp. Never bought a flip.

[stiff ether]

They are more like the Flip, Slighty clickyer but nothing like MM/MM+

[potent tide]

clickier than the flip?

[torpid shard]

So basically wait for the v3 or v4

[rain nacelle]

Huh...

I like dome switches

[stiff ether]

slightly, I didn't even notice it til tenlevels pointed it out. They felt the same to me honestly

They still feel amazing, they are dome switches for sure tho

This device is perfect out the Box, just needs CFW support and it's good to go. But I really don't like Stock OS

[potent tide]

I personally don’t like mainUI in general too much jank

But this device is still interesting

[rain nacelle]

Agreed

[stiff ether]

No one complained about OnionOS or MinUI on the MM/MM+

just saying

People kept saying on repeat:

"Will OnionOS be on (Insert device here)"

[potent tide]

Controversial opinion: I’ve never understood why onion os is so hyped up, sure it was nice back in 2022/2023 but with how far projects have come such as muOS, Knulli, Rocknix, NextUI, Spruce, and more it’s really nothing special anymore

In fact in my opinion it’s probably the worst out of all the ones I just listed, mainly due to how janky mainui is

Allium has always caught my eye

[shut pulsar]

Yeah, the buttons were the biggest thing I vastly preferred over the 35XX/34XX SP’s.

Despite the RG35XX SP looking more accurate to the GBA SP, it’s the Miyoo Flip that had buttons which felt legitimately accurate to the original SP’s buttons.

[worldly crag]

anyone with a miyoo mini v4 to compare size

[vagrant matrix]

That last one makes the mini flip look so TINY ha

[vague pier]

Its an itty bitty baby. I love it. I wish Kit would show off the yellow.

You are a real one brother

[worldly crag]

I mean yellow has already been leaked a bunch of times

[vague pier]

A bunch? Thats the only photo ive seen leaked of it. I wanna see irl.

[worldly crag]

yeah not sure where that photos from clip of a clip of a clip

[vague pier]

Have not seen that one. Tight.

[worldly crag]

reverses back to a reddit thread that either has deleted the image or burried

https://old.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1lug8zr/miyoo_mini_flip_announced/

apparently was posted in this thread then deleted?

probably

given the tea set is likely miyoos office 🤣

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aL3ez8E4R/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

some videos of the pink in action

[vague pier]

You a real one too Taco Kitty.

[worldly crag]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062