Ayaneo Flip 1S

[stray gate]

He's just gonna gush about how this isn't the super sp cause it's not 1440p

[hoary tartan]

Please don't say those words in that order

[dense crow]

Pretty sure he has a bot that searches for those keywlrds

[sturdy nacelle]

Absolutely not

Oh fuck it is?

No I didn't post any links

I just told them they can dm me if they need a linnk

I've made a 180 bucks

Maybe I can get to 300

[sturdy nacelle]

This is ewaste

[sturdy nacelle]

No I just like chatting in upcoming devices

Nothing currently on the market fits my exact needs

So I don't buy those

Ngl I'm waiting for flip DS or KB to go on clearance

It's going to be beautiful

[stray gate]

Maybe you can get something that is close enough?

[dense crow]

Don't tease him like that

[hoary tartan]

He doesn't actually want anything

[hoary tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/s/jRbXPcZiCq

Someone please tell me I'm not losing my fucking mind here

This guy is getting upvoted for talking completely out his ass

[marble void]

Is he talking about the original Aya Flip?

[hoary tartan]

Yes, vs the pocket DS / flip 1s

Saying the sticks are "exactly the same"

[marble void]

Idk how good the new sticks actually are but they're still TMR, which the original's weren't

[lethal venture]

arent the 1S and pocket ds new tmr sticks that seems smaller?

[dense crow]

The stick caps are 100% different. But it's kinda hard to tell scale or travel because the wells on the flip 1s just look to be larger

I honestly think if you took the caps from the flip DS and put them on the flip 1s DS they'd be the same, at least from a physical look and feel. As we know the underlying technology is different

[somber geode]

maybe they favored smaller caps intentionally to increase range of movement

[dense crow]

Know ones off center which makes it tough. But assuming dpad is the same it def has a larger well on the new one

A little hard to see but the old ones are larger. Not the full size of the additional ridge. But most of it (used dpad for scale)

Just looks like a cap swap would make them the same look/feel wise

[lethal venture]

Tbh I am rather scared of the dpad

The of the sticks

[nimble mountain]

Dome or microswitch PLEASE

[shrewd vapor]

yea that guy is an idiot lol

[hoary tartan]

right like cmon

he's like "uh post some PROOF buddy" and im like brother. the spec sheet

[chrome halo]

Reddit

[shrewd vapor]

reddit and also talking shit on AYANEO

[sturdy nacelle]

Ayaneo sucks

[opal thicket]

Man the build quality isn't great for an expensive device... look at all those burrs on the plastic edges

[gilded zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/what-bruh-steve-harvey-shocked-surprised-gif-17654826

[lethal venture]

lets hope they are doing bit better on FLIP 1S and Pocket DS

[hoary tartan]

pre-pro unit, no? this could just be a prototyping issue?

either way not a good sign..

[opal thicket]

That is the retail Flip 1S DS unit that a Chinese customer just received, $1559 max spec Retro Power model

[hoary tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/icarly-carly-shay-carly-miranda-cosgrove-miranda-gif-22030885

[lethal venture]

ooh

[gilded zealot]

fuckin unacceptable tbh

[dense crow]

Hand carved. Extra premium

[final flame]

they didn't want to mortage their house so they went with manual assembly straight by Arthur

[dense crow]

"guys, I don't know how to do this"

"Just try"

[sturdy nacelle]

Oh wow this isn't good

Super SP build quality is vastly superior

[stray gate]

40 years later wumput is still going to sit in his room whining about how the latest handhelds are still behind the super sp

[sturdy nacelle]

In 40 years we'll have the super sp 10

14400p

[hoary tartan]

Petition to restrict wump to only talking in the super SP channel

[dense crow]

Amen

[sturdy nacelle]

there is none

my proposals were all rejected

[nimble mountain]

every time i read super sp i wanna leave server

[shrewd vapor]

What is this “super SP” you’re talking about?

[gilded zealot]

some shit they made up and now wont let go

[shrewd vapor]

ahh ok

[sturdy nacelle]

based in magicx plans

[gentle sandal]

Not the first time and won't be the last, that's why I don't understand the "price is higher than competition because they are premium products" people like to quote.

They have the same random issue with build/quality just like any other brands.

[dense crow]

Everyone has production issues. But you can feel the difference in hand between an Ayaneo and an Anbernic

[sturdy nacelle]

Ayaneo has no XX slop

Code r could do jt

[dense crow]

Maybe. I expect it to be pretty good

There will always be one off misses in production. I'll be more concerned when more pop up with issues.

[merry dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmS1gz7ftuU

Caps confirmed removable and compatible with other caps like Retroid's.

[nimble mountain]

dome or microswitch confirmed

prob buying this or the android ver

[lethal venture]

gatching the vid .... glad i managed to grab the 8840u version when it was available 😄

[merry dune]

Kind of wish I put in for that, ahaha.

The HX370 is just too much, especially in CAD.

The Pocket DS might be the better bet, especially since Winlator and such is making good strides in running Steam.

I like the way the mold is on the bottom half on the Pocket DS too and it'll have much better sleep from Android.

[sturdy nacelle]

Bazzite

[lethal venture]

tbh winlator is one thing i never understood people liking it so much 😄

its so annoying to use to me 😄

tbh better than i expected

[blissful thunder]

3 hours for ds emulaton tho 😄 kinda rough but understandable

[merry dune]

It's honestly down to device power at this point, getting easier to use every update.

It only on weaker devices or demanding games (and like, Unity nonsense) where it requires a lot of tweaking.

If you use DRM-free/GOG games you can basically just use 1 Winlator container like a Windows emulator and install games like you would on Windows.

But yeah, if you mostly use Steam and just want a guarantee the Flip 1S is definitely the safer bet.

[lethal venture]

like i tried to use winlator jsut for proper Pico8 on rg cube

and its so exteemely annoying to setup

and breaks itself every other udpate or just randomly

and imagining myself trying actual gog/steam games sounds like hell to me 😄

but pick your poison i guess lol

[lethal venture]

Btw : seems like Azahar just fixed the centering issue in Azahar mentioned in the @remote barn vid https://github.com/azahar-emu/azahar/releases/tag/2123-beta1

[delicate wigeon]

anyone here planning on picking up this device?

[somber geode]

I have to say after watching Russ video I'm very impressed by the software Aya cooked here

maybe it's because I'm coming from the GPD camp where software is almost always barebones to non-existent

but the software layer Aya built here to make use of the dual screens on Windows looks really good

if the Pocket DS wasn't a thing I'd consider picking one up

[hoary tartan]

I backed first day!

[delicate wigeon]

you ordered it on the first day?

[hoary tartan]

Yeah

[delicate wigeon]

nice!!

wish I had that kind of money

[delicate wigeon]

what made you want to pull the trigger on that handheld device?

[hoary tartan]

The 8840U price point was kind of what I was looking for tbh, I'd been thinking about an x86 handheld for a while

[delicate wigeon]

ahh I would have bought the 8840U one too but I have an x86 handheld. Idk it would be a waste of money if I bought another x86 handheld lol

[lethal venture]

Should work the same

@remote barn for melods fullscreen is super easy too without toolbar... just matter of assigning a hotkey for fullscreen and it fullscreens both ... just tested on my win4+screen

[lethal venture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5aJ1rA4S4

[shrewd vapor]

The last retro power device we will ever get 😢

[lethal venture]

i guss thats what happens when one sells the special colour only in the highest and priciest tier

[dense crow]

They're not doing that color anymore?

I'm honestly ok with it if it means we get more interesting colors

[shrewd vapor]

Correct, if you look at like the Pocket DS pics, the new “premium” tier color is this yellow and black coloring, which personally isn’t my thing. So I hope they don’t lock the highest spec to only be that yellow

Arthur said people were tired of the retro power color 🤷‍♂️

[dense crow]

I'm sure they got most retro sales on the DMG which was one of the first to come with it I think

It does get a little old

[hoary tartan]

People are mainly tired of colors being locked to certain configurations lol

In fact...I think people are just tired of multiple configurations.

[shrewd vapor]

Yea I get that. Just hoping I can get max configuration in black. Don’t think I like the new yellow

[dense crow]

I don't think people mind options. But they could cut out like all the ones in the middle

Like the price differences between the middle models are so negligible

I guess options are never a bad thing tho

[somber geode]

it's honestly a really hard sell with the Pocket DS around the corner

[lethal venture]

Especially with the 8840u shortage ... luckily I got mine before that

But really surprised they are shipping month early - I absolutely expected month or two delay

[lethal venture]

Tbh I am .more excited for what the competition has in store on android side ... with anyaneo going "higher numbers go brrr.." route there with pocket DS having Odin2 level SoC for 3ds aimed device

[dense crow]

Yeah. Kinda hoping the 8840u comes back in stock. But my wallet is OK if it doesn't

[shrewd vapor]

Glad these are finally shipping, I'm curious as to whether I'll like this or my F1 Pro more

[hoary tartan]

My thing is like

I don't see any reason to get an android dual screen specifically for 3DS/Wii U when dual screen x86 is actually a developed thing

But that may be because this is my first x86 handheld ever so it'll be my daily backpack carry

[dense crow]

Battery life, sleep, in some cases better emulators. Easy to navigate. Bare min configuration, access to other apps you may want that aren't necessarily gaming. Android gaming, etc

[hoary tartan]

Battery life isn't going to matter in 5W TDP mode, infinitely better emus on Win, android emus require way more tinkering, PC games

I think there's a Yin and Yang for all of those points

[dense crow]

Probably. Haha

I mean they're two different devices. And to be fair, both will emulate ds systems fine

[dense crow]

Battery life is more from sleep alone. On standby android is just gonna last longer. Even with a much larger battery on the x86

And well, android is gonna be cheaper. So if you want DS emulation for the lowest price android probably makes more sense

[merry dune]

Don't think anyone should get a dual screen device for just NDS/3DS/WiiU. The increased cost just for native dual screen isn't really worth it.
Should definitely be looking at what two screens can offer outside of those.

Like, so few games need both screens at once and the ones that do often don't really need the second screen at "full" size.

You'd be paying a premium for such a tiny slice of the library.

Now if you want a dual screen device for other reasons, then yeah, native dual screen for those platforms is a great perk.

[lethal venture]

tbh if you want DS emulation for the lowest price .... Pocked DS is a) way too big, b) overpriced for needs of DS , c) overkill soc for DS

[chrome halo]

Feel like it's the other way around tbh, other than frying my brain with youtube and games at the same time I don't see much of an appeal for two screens.

3ds and ds have such a massive library that getting a specialized device for them makes sense to me

[merry dune]

I say this all the time, but all the reasons why native dual screen for those platforms would be great can be simulated with a game and a webpage open at the same time for other platform games.

Map open, guide open, collection checklists, missable warnings, etc.

Now for the games that truly use both screens, yeah, native's the way to go.

The Sonic games that span both screens vertically or like, The World Ends With You and such.

Even beyond brainrot reasons, some games don't require your full attention or don't require sound or something.
Playing Picross with my own music or with a video playing isn't an atrocity for instance, ahaha.

Cozy/vibey games for the same reason. I don't need to fully focus and I don't really lose anything from muting the music and playing something else.

Early open world games with like, 300 collectable baubles would benefit greatly from a map/spreadsheet you can check off as you collect things too.

[dense crow]

One might be true, but 2 and 3 are great for upscaling

[dense crow]

This to be honest. DS libraries are massive

[merry dune]

(Or like, Xenoblade Chronicles X with the friggin' Lobster quest)

[lethal venture]

even for upscaling

you dont need odin2 level SoC

[dense crow]

And you have the added benefits of playing most single screen emulators as well

[dense crow]

See single screen

[lethal venture]

unless you want to upscale to like 4k

[dense crow]

Like nothing prevents you from doing switch or PS2 on this as well

It's not like Ayaneo reps will come punch you in the junk

[lethal venture]

i mean we were talking about specifically using and buying it for ds games

[merry dune]

If you only have one device and the comfort isn't horrific then yeah.

[dense crow]

I'd hardly think anyone claimed the original flip DS was horrific. So I think you guys will be ok 😆

[lethal venture]

lots of us have more devices that are much comfier for single screen games 😕

[merry dune]

I'm all for the all-in-one and would definitely just use a Pocket DS/Flip 1S for everything if comfort isn't terrible, ahaha.

[dense crow]

Exactly

The point is you're not limited

[merry dune]

That said, RP5+addon is super appealing if only for the modularity.

[lethal venture]

like yes , but we are talking specifcally about "buying this specifically for DS emu"

[dense crow]

If you're ok with accessories. Personally I hate anything that detaches, needs to be connected, or makes something more bulky/unweildy

Not to mention covering fan exhaust and buttons on their own devices...

[lethal venture]

pretty sure pocked DS will be bulkier than rp5 with addon 😄

specifically thx to the ergo bumbs take from 1s

[dense crow]

But smooth. And less likely to catch

[merry dune]

Yeah, if you're buying a dual screen with the intent to also play other platforms then you're no longer only buying for dedicated dual screen platforms, ahaha.

And to that, go for it.

[dense crow]

I mean no one here is buying this as purely dedicated ds device. Why would you?

[merry dune]

That was the start of the "Don't do it" point initially, ahaha.

[dense crow]

Like wait for Anbernic to put out some clam ds which barely runs Wii U at 1x for half the price

[lethal venture]

i mean there is like 3 wii u games that use it well anyway 😛 and weren ported elswere

[merry dune]

The initial premise of the conversation was "Don't do it only for NDS/3DS/WiiU"

[dense crow]

I actually preferred Zelda on it over switch purely because inventory management. That said it wasn't a handheld

[dense crow]

Unless expediency outweighs your wallet

[merry dune]

I friggin' adore multi screen gameplay just for that honestly.

The immediate inventory management or map movement.

[dense crow]

Yeah. Clears up having a hud

[merry dune]

I wish more PC games had multi screen support for things.

[dense crow]

Would be cool

[merry dune]

I'd settle for app integration too honestly.

[lethal venture]

which reminds me wonder if android DC emulators have VMU support to place ath the second screen
(pc ones doo .... iirc Russ showcased that in his review of original flip, but no clue about android)

[merry dune]

Like if a game had an app that just automatically tracked all the collectables I've collected so I'm not searching for one I already have.

[dense crow]

A Pokedex always up would be cool

It's too bad. Cause I saw a ton of potential in the Wii U. They just struggled to put out anything for it

Still think any game that was like 1v4 would have been amazing

Hard to balance probably

[merry dune]

If the Wii U came out now it would probably do okay.
Especially if they had the dock act as a wireless HDMI receiver so all the hardware could still be on the handheld and just output a second display wirelessly.

Rather than the other way around like the WiiU.

[lethal venture]

tbh its what i am waiting for from the competition on the android side ,,, something thats 3ds sized , pocketable (ergo bumps optional) and just enough DS/3DS SoC for under 200 .....

but might as well stay with RP5/mini+RDA anyway instead 😄

[dense crow]

The switch 2 chipset could have probably handled it. If you kept the rest of the game lighter

[dense crow]

Yeah. I think that's guaranteed on the way

I just have little need for an x86 version of that just for gaming

[lethal venture]

as clip on solution fits my android needs better and pocket DS has too much "too much points" for my usecase 😄

[dense crow]

Most AAA id want on a TV. And most indie stuff has streaming or switch ports you could emulate

I'd still buy them to support the devs

[merry dune]

I'd prefer to get an x86 option just so I could use Steam cloud saving/acheivements/etc, though maybe a bit more development on Winlator will get us there.
...or just official Steam ARM support.

[dense crow]

Would be awesome

Would be wild if steam deck 2 had an arm version

[lethal venture]

as for FLip 1S ... gaming is just a fraction of my reasons why i got it

• i managed to order the 8840u version which is enough for my needs

[merry dune]

Official Steam ARM would immediately make the Pocket DS so much more valuable.

[dense crow]

Seems like a boundary valve would push

[dense crow]

Yeah. If used outside gaming it makes more sense to me

[merry dune]

Still kind of regret not backing the 8840u version myself.

I do actually have a lot of non-gaming use cases for a portable multiscreen device.

[dense crow]

Yeah. Seems like the sweet spot

I mean if you have the money for the hx370 I'm all for it

I'd rather buy 3 or 4 other handhelds this year 😆

[merry dune]

Money truly is the key to happiness

[dense crow]

Lol. Big true. It at least makes life less stressful

Can still be stressed. But it's not the same

More self inflicted 😆

[lethal venture]

tbh thats one thing i am excited to experiment with through ontopreplica in pc games

[lethal venture]

yeah ... for example my gf has DJ sidegig every other weekend .... and they have some cool program to control the lights around .... but using a big not touch laptop next to the mixing board while DJing is kinda pain ... and flip will fit right on the empty space on the board and with two touch screens .... the possiblities 😄

[merry dune]

Stream Deck has a virtual Deck option now so you can literally have both screens act as a giant Stream Deck for macros.

[dense crow]

Can totally game while you do lights. Just don't miss a queue 😆

[lethal venture]

packaging with giftbox

[somber geode]

oh neat

do update us with some impressions when you can, I'm curious how this feels in real life

[lethal venture]

not mine ... someone shared it a aya discord

right now i am trying to swithc my order to dpd so save money 😄

[somber geode]

Ah gotcha

[lethal venture]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lWEoulXe4yPDc6KE8D60ES1m3SbhP1Bw2buFwNrhGQY/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[dense crow]

Yeah. If anything tarrifs might keep me from buying any upcoming DS handhelds 😆

[spare venture]

300g of additional weight for an x86 device for starters

[hoary tartan]

300g for a device that's actually useful for more than a single console

good tradeoff

[spare venture]

yeah i'd trade that off anyday ofc but even when undertuned to have similar performance they're still hardly comparable devices, even from a physical perspective they'll just be in a different class because of the cooling and battery difference

[somber geode]

the Pocket DS is 500g so when compared to the Flip 1S it's technically just about 100g more

[lethal venture]

Odin 2 hass 8k battery at 3,85v iirc .. so thats equivalent of 31Wh

but android vs windows is big differemce

[somber geode]

45wh is roughly 12k mAh, but of course that doesn't tell you anything since PC handhelds consume battery more aggressively

in reality 45wh for a PC handheld is kinda meh

okay if you don't push it but lacking if you plan on playing high end AAA PC games

[lethal venture]

which i dont on 1S 😄

[shrewd vapor]

FYI if you’re in the shipment list but haven’t gotten an email, just email support and they’ll give you your tracking number

[spare venture]

i wish i had money

[dense crow]

I wish they had 8840u

[lethal venture]

+the still might , gicen how many people cancelled fro pocket ds

but no word rom John yet

[dense crow]

Yeah. I don't get the silence. Like it makes me feel like they're silently discontinuing it to push people to the more expensive model

Don't get me wrong. I think they'll deliver the orders that are in. But with the pocket DS out now, they'll probably quietly not relist it

Kinda like some models being absent when the flip 1 DS showed back up after the igg

[lethal venture]

thbh not really a fond of how ayaneo has been handling things on the Flip 1s / pocket DS side of thing

but i think i will keep my order at this pont

and maybe grab Thor as its little broter down the line 😄

[spare venture]

w8 so theyre what, delisting the flip 1s? or just the 8840u idea

[dense crow]

We don't know. It's no longer available and they said PCB shortage but that's it

When asked they say no further details

[spare venture]

I can still order a flip 1s ds

on their igg

so i assume u mean the 8840

what's so different between the two, just price? 1800cad seems fucking steep

yeah

wow 800bucks was really doable

even 1k

was worth

the 370 feels overpriced idk

[gentle sandal]

Just their typical pricing strategy. Doubt the hx370+16gb ram cost 500 more than the 8840u

[next brook]

it's definitely a bummer about the 8840u

[lethal venture]

kinda expected some to pop back up after people cancelling for pocket ds

[lethal venture]

tbh technically its within the line of hwo other stuff with hx370 costs

but its overkull for most

[hoary tartan]

8840u was delisted because they were making $800 per unit instead of double that for barely any performance increase

they saw people weren't willing to dump obscene money when they was a budget option so they removed the budget option

[dense crow]

PCBs for the CPU supposedly

[dense crow]

This is more likely. In which case, fuckem

If they want to ride the hx370 wave of pricing that'd their choice but count me out of ever owning more than one at this point. Lol

[hoary tartan]

the issue is that ayaneo flew too close to the sun with a few of their products being actually affordable and worth purchasing

where the rest of them are dumb giffen good tier expensive

now they have a following of people waiting for budget that aren't willing to buy their overpriced crap

[dense crow]

Haha. That's me. Lol

[abstract loom]

wait so is there any reason why they went with a 4.5 3:2 on this instead of the 5 inch 4:3 on the pocket? Really considering this over the pocket and the thor just to cover all bases

[brazen widget]

Not sure the 5" was available before, first I'm seeing it? idk

who knows

[lethal venture]

tbh personally i dont mind

DS still will be huge even on that 3:2

and lots of windows stuff will be imo more readabkle on 3:2 (given its bit wider and way higher ppi)

for example discord

[abstract loom]

yeah it's basically a non issue, was just curious, would prefer the other but whatever.
Damn i'm such a sucker for clamshells

[dense crow]

Haha. Right? I'm still considering this AND a Thor. I'm just not paying 1K+ for it

Really hoping the cheaper models come back one day...

[hoary tartan]

realistically the best combo is something like a smaller 7"-ish pc handheld and the Thor

not cancelling my 1S either but also probably going to accomplish what I wanted to originally with the Thor a little easier

[dense crow]

Kinda what I'm hoping the konkr x86 is

But I agree. Would be the strongest portability combo

Basically handle everything android, arm Linux and x86 that you'd really want to play on the go

For a reasonable price assuming some of these smaller x86 devices show up

I thought I saw somewhere the konkr x86 was gonna be 7" which would be perfect. I'd probably unload a lot of my overpowered and underused handhelds for that combo

[steady tartan]

I grabbed both the Ayaneo 1S and pocket DS

the Thor looks sooooo nice but the screens being being bigger on the pocket ds sold me

[dense crow]

Yeah. That's the biggest trade. Smaller and pocket or bigger and screens

[lethal venture]

i went 1s 8840u and probably Thor base/pro (depending on the acessories price)

i just didnt care for lowppi bottom screen on pocket DS while being pretty much same size as FLip 1S
(ther isnt that many games that have actuall action gameplay on both screens)

thor will feel like little brother to Flip 1S 😄

[dense crow]

Basically my dream combo as you know

Alas

[lethal venture]

• my biggest complain of pocket DS was always the size for my "android needs"

which was this #1394584145736499201 message even before Thor was announced

and thor ended up being exactly that 😄

[steady tartan]

My thing is I’d rather have screen bigger than the DSi XL or else I’d probably just keep playing my XL

[lethal venture]

i care more about ppi and resolution that physical size

especially for a screen thats 95% of the time just inventory or map

• reason i barely play my DSi/n3ds XL .. is the lack of save states, fastforward

[lethal venture]

oh no

[dense crow]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/joker-dark-knight-batman-gif-3438276

[lethal venture]

https://youtu.be/j1TXnfT-zIg?si=fcPF71Qkf1eCF221&t=59

[abstract loom]

https://tenor.com/view/tedlasso-yikes-gif-27201348

[dense crow]

Ruh roh

I mean at least they've only shipped like 1 batch right?

[lethal venture]

8840u-16 still not even in the spreadsheet

[dense crow]

Praying for ya. Every update my fear grows that they'll eventually tell you sorry but we're discontinuing that model 😬

[lethal venture]

at this point that would kinda piss me off and made me hate ayaneo

[dense crow]

When I asked support 😆

[lethal venture]

mwmw support as always

[lethal venture]

as i already modified bunch of work stuff ro work with "top/bottom screen layout"

[hoary tartan]

Yeah I'm really on the fence about keeping my 1S order tbqh

It's a lot of money to potentially just suck

Might be worth getting a gpd

I want something with a 5.5" or 6" max anyway

[gilded zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/high-quality-siivagunner-high-quality-rips-they're-high-quality-siiva-swim-gif-7419628760898579794

[abstract loom]

interested in this new European shipment stoppage to the US, I was going to post an image/list of the countries but don't want to fear monger too much, did see singapore on it though, and when i was on the IGG for the flip 1s today in the comments, the team mentioned in a reply that the shipments to the US are shipped to Hong Kong first, then shipped from Hong Kong to Singapore, and finally transferred to the United States.

[abstract loom]

either way, i cant shake the feeling the tariff on this 1400 dollar device will be like, an extra few hundred bucks to the US?

[somber geode]

ask for DPD shipping

don't get raped in taxes

[hoary tartan]

Another batch shipped today

Still no 8840U-16G

[lethal venture]

they basicalyls aid mid-september

[brazen widget]

https://tenor.com/view/weed-70s-show-no-idk-maybe-gif-17395897

The goalposts change weekly so… good luck predicting that

[dense crow]

You already play the busted hinge lottery. Time to throw the tarrif lottery on top. Double the excitement!

[abstract loom]

i'm seriously considering it. that 45wh battery and some extra 300 dollar surprise bill are the only things holding me back

[dense crow]

Yeah. Again I'd buy one instantly if it was the 8840u model

[abstract loom]

gave the 32gb 2tb a go.

wish me luck!

[blissful thunder]

good luck! How much was it?

[abstract loom]

1400 even

[abstract loom]

People should be getting them in hand more soon, if i see more hinge issues i might cancel though

[spare venture]

the problem with this one is that it's such a short run of devices that i'm pretty sure the majority are going to deal with some weird hardware bullshit that is never going to get fixed or iterated on because they're working on next year's fad.

like i really wanted to get one of these but my concern is that 6mon from now there won't be a 1.0 to finally purchase when they've sorted out the problems, because they'll be too busy releasing the 0.7 of the quintuple wearable display foldable retractable dolby atmos 9" vrr oled ayaneo 9 next go

fit pocket.

[lethal venture]

i mean thats how ayaneo has been working for years

so yeah

[burnt aurora]

That's the danger with any handheld to be honest.

[lethal venture]

yeah but ultimately its better than it used to be 😄

i still remember my early GPDs 😄

but even with all their weird issues .... i had a blast with them and was super worth it

ven despite i had to glue some stuff under right analog so it stops falling inside the device (win3) or reshell whole thing over hinge (win2)

[burnt aurora]

Ohhh, I thought you meant you had the XP's

[lethal venture]

nah ... Win2, Win3 , WinMini2024 7640u , Win42025 hx370

2 and 3 are basically near dead state ... but overall served well

as for Flip 1S ... i amanaged to order the weakest 8840u version and have plans o use it to speed up my work rather than gaming , so it will kinda pay for itself

[burnt aurora]

Whatever you need to tell your other half to get it I guess....

[lethal venture]

tbh pretty sure she will use it more than me

[shrewd vapor]

yea... if you wait for a perfectly finished version, you're never gonna buy a device ever. These things are constantly evolving, and yes it's typical for these companies to "fix" the current device's issues by releasing a new hardware version

[burnt aurora]

Rog Ally SD card

[tiny abyss]

Keep in mind camera settings will massively change how that comparison looks.

If it was actually that big a difference in person it would have to have one of the worst contrast ratios of any ips panel.

[hoary tartan]

like yeah its outdoors at night time, the time when an IPS panel is going to look like abysmal dogshit no matter what

even the best are going to struggle in those conditions

[lethal venture]

tbh i mostly play these thing during nigth time

so its quite important for me spúecificalyl

i guess will do comparision for myself in November with Thor and Fliop 1s

[hoary tartan]

dark vs night are a bit different

but similar

[lethal venture]

although the bottom 1s pannel is different one than the pocket ds ... and i dont plan that for comparision

[shrewd vapor]

After seeing it in person, I no longer trust pictures like that. Massively blown out of proportions

[lethal venture]

i guess depends on at which light situation you usually play

i kinda struggle to play the cube at night cause of the lightbleed for example

[shrewd vapor]

I think I'm just really not sensitive to it, unless it's so glaring and exaggerated. But like all the pictures of the Pocket Ace's supposed light bleed, I never saw it that exaerbated in person

[shrewd vapor]

https://youtu.be/WzM1kcr0ZaI Finally done, my first feature-length review, hope you guys like it!

[somber geode]

@lethal venture you'll like this one

[lofty shadow]

This was very enjoyable to watch. Well done mate

[wide pasture]

Great Review. It's a shame AYANEO is still having heat based issues with their windows devices.
A 120° f bottom screen while also thermal throttling isn't a great look for something as expensive as the Flip 1S DS.

Even if they make a kit to improve thermals on the device in the future, it is still kind of sad that they released it in such a state considering they've been making windows devices for years now.

[vestal glen]

Right. I'm now looking at the 1S now that the Lego2's pricing seems so absurd.

Hoping to have a 'work' machine I can use once a week on site and then something I'll actually use for myself in the interim. After it has it's day, I want to convert it to a server (USB 4 is paramount).

Will go over this thread, but as an Ayaneo newb, any good advice as I look for pulling the trigger? I'm in the US and the handwave of 'tarrifs could be a problem' is part of why I'm holding back. Thanks in advance.

[abstract loom]

yeah I am bracing for like, 400 bucks tariff, on top of the 1400, which, yeah, i'm still considering cancelling. but man would i love a black 2 screen clamshell.

[vestal glen]

Yeah this is a great overview / deep dive

[wide pasture]

Broken hinge already?

[abstract loom]

Daaaaang

[vestal glen]

That is no good for a device of that caliber. Could you keep us up to date on how they respond to it?

[lethal venture]

the ghuy is posting at aya disocord .. and they promised him new hinge weeks ago ... so who knows

[lethal venture]

[lethal venture]

Lol

[shrewd vapor]

Yea you’re better off just getting the HX 370 lol. Or I actually prefer the OneXPlayer F1 Pro to the Flip, it has the same HX 370, but can actually run it at 30W without thermal throttling

[lethal venture]

tbh i dont need the power ... defibutely not for additional 500€

i would be fine even with just 7640u 😄 (like my gpd Mini )

i need the dualscreen windows 😄

[shrewd vapor]

Hell you can get an Antec Slide for not too much if you still want AYANEO and can live with an older chip

[lethal venture]

i can wait 😄

either they cancel on me

or i wait

the problem for me would be deliery in December ... as i am abroad most of that month

and if 8840u is dekayed even beyond that ... thats in a way better than being stressed of it arriving when i am gone

[lethal venture]

technically we already own Legion Go (Z1E + battery upgrade) , SDOled, WIn 4 2025 (hx370) and Win Mini 2024( 7640u)

Flip 1S (8840u) is just finall piece of "needed usecase" puzzle .... mainly for my gf

i am fine with waiting .... just annoyed by the lies (my preorder was before this post)

[hoary tartan]

Yay

Can't wait to never get mine

[lethal venture]

seems like they finally got the CPUs

[lethal venture]

they havent stated of which year though

[gentle sandal]

When did this campaign ended on igg?

[lethal venture]

Late August?

[somber berry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-angela-dwight-schrute-shocked-gif-13363502

[turbid oak]

looks so nice

[lethal venture]

If only it existed

[misty hull]

`

[lethal venture]

i guess will see soon

although they shipped it through fedex despite me changing to dpd

[blissful thunder]

how long has the wait been for this?

[abstract loom]

was yours an odd SKU?

I got lucky, I think i ordered a 32/2tb version in black and had it in that early first batch of runs in early september maybe?

[lethal venture]

yes

but they basically did zero shipping between start of OCtober and Feb 14

[abstract loom]

ugh man, that company. They do make incredible devices, but need to get their shit together

[lethal venture]

i originally was 8840-1t , now i am hx370-2t-yellow

[abstract loom]

hope you like it, great device, truly.

[lethal venture]

[shrewd vapor]

Nah that’s AI, AYANEO doesn’t ship devices