Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

[stoic shoal]

I tried ||the quarter-pipe directly behind the starting spot in Rio and just skating over the top of it but that didn't seem to be quite enough||

||I'm assuming that you're supposed to grind around the power lines for scoring in Rio but I don't actually know that||

[fervent haven]

I looked up a buncha the goals to power through

But yeah I felt horrible at the game initially

By the time I finished I was hitting some pretty crazy combos and to get goals occasionaly landed the 125k+ point combos

[orchid apex]

To finish this do we need to get every goal in every level? I've gotten everything except the 300K and 500K, highest I've gotten is 240K in a run.

Any extra tips for crazy mega combos?

Trying the above. Didn't know about boneless or special boosting air!

[coral hill]

You mean simply getting the credits doesn't qualify? 🤯

Edit: I meant getting to the last level and completing some of it, realized my original statement made no sense.

[shy river]

in ps2 version credits dont roll until you do all goals in all levels with one skater, not sure about the 5th gen version

[shy river]

special grinds can add a lot of points and are easier to do than special air tricks

[orchid apex]

How do we trigger credits? 👀

[coral hill]

Time to start patapon 🤣

[orchid apex]

Ah fair! Ill try this, thanks 🔥

[coral hill]

All goals gotta be checked off on the PS2, so I'm seeing. Those ultra super super high scores will be the death of me.

[orchid apex]

Ahhhh dang, yeah I've been trying for days on these last w goals. Other versions are different? 😆

[fleet cedar]

For Cruise Ship, I usually combo around the pool and on the side with the ferries. Lots of options for grind combos there

Jumping mid-rail, doing a flip trick, then grinding again is the key to higher combo scores

[fervent haven]

@orchid apex you have to get all goals in each level and all 3 gold medals. For the higher goals find places you can jump between a few spots and continously grind. Also change some of your special tricks to grind tricks. And of course whenever you're about to touch the ground manual and or revert

[coral hill]

Curious to know, will look into it.

[spare vapor]

just don't ask ai lol it told me that it was impossible at the start of the month to roll the credits

[shy river]

i like starting on the upper deck and dropping midcombo. there's some nice rails with easy gaps in the greenhouse area too

i think i got most of the 500k in one big combo starting from the waterslide grind

[fervent haven]

For the cruise ship the greenhouse was definitely how I got a few crazy combos

[orchid apex]

Ah thanks! I'll get on that grind!

[wide oracle]

Let me know if anyone needs any help! I love this game and had recently gone through the (incredibly tedious) process of getting the PS2 version mastery on RetroAchievements

Was very cool to go through PS1 for this month and see the diferences

1. PS1 version has static goals and (from what I can tell) Stat Point placements across all levels. On PS2, the stat points can differ between skaters, and levels has different goals that tend to be more intricate on PS2.

2. The PS2 version contains the Cruise Ship bonus level whereas the the PS1 has a (relatively easier) Rio Downhill stage (this was actually my first time playing that level - had a blast)

3. PS1 and PS2 versions have different level layouts, with the PS2's obviously being more sprawling and detailed (not to mention draw distance - ugh)

[shy river]

yeah the ps1 maps range from slightly different to really different

like half of canada is completely new lol but foundry is mostly the same

also canada and LA are swapped

ps1 is on the thps2 engine too. some of the animations for new tricks are scuffed (reverts look really bad lol), it still has the big drop mechanic, physics are floatier etc.

[orchid apex]

That's pretty wild!

Maybe PS1 would be a better way to go

[shy river]

i think the ps2 version is better but ps1 is still pretty fun

[fleet cedar]

Huh, I didn’t know they had different maps. I haven’t played the PS1 version, but I do know the physics are different.

I believe the PS1 version physics are more similar to THPS2, so more floaty and less responsive

I have recently been working on doing 100% completion for all skaters on THPS1+2, but got kinda burned out doing the same thing over and over, so I took a break

I think I’m at like 16 or 17 out of 24 skaters

[snow sonnet]

Hell yeah I’ve been doing the same

Getting ready for 3+4

[shy river]

it ranges from geometry reduction (round things are a lot more square) and some goal changes + removal of dynamic elements to "oh yeah half the map is completely different"

[orchid apex]

I've been playing the Switch version on the Flip 2 this week a bit, which surprisingly runs nearly full speed 😆 if you drop the res below 1x it gets there on Citron.

[brittle orbit]

Closing in on the end of this, with just the final free score goals left

[heavy depot]

Have you got the 900 set as a special, trying to do 2 of those in a half pipe before going off was always a decent start for me

[coral hill]

So just to confirm, N64 and PSX versions of THPS3 are cool? Asking for a friend. 👀

[orchid apex]

Yeah all the versions count!

There's a PC and Xbox version too, I don't think it was on N64

[orchid apex]

Oh dang it was! Even on GBA

Now I need to try it 😆

[coral hill]

Sadly no Dreamcast, to my knowledge

[orchid apex]

Apparently it was in development but not sure how far along, never released

[coral hill]

That and half life left us too soon for Dreamcast

[shy river]

yeah i wouldnt recommend n64 for this, ps1 version is the better 5th gen version. the n64 thpses all have bad audio, they had to do short loops to fit the sogns in

i mean if you own the real cart go for it

dunno if anyone checked with rapid about gba cuz its more different than ps1 even and is missing a few levels

scoring is also very different lol cuz they account for the limited view making it harder to keep combos going forever. score targets were really easy tho. i forget if gba 4 had that, i had that one as a kid and i dont remember it being that easy

[silver violet]

Finally finished! Got over 700,000 for my sick score in the cruise ship. Really enjoyed it overall. Very satisfying to pull off those high scores.

[orchid apex]

daaammmnn

Nice work

[distant scarab]

FFS reading through the thread, credits roll takes all gold and all goals???

ive spent probably 20+ hours on this damn game

should've just played Link's Awakening

[fleet cedar]

I know for sure it’s all goals, but I always get all golds, so I couldn’t tell you if those are required or not

[stoic shoal]

All right, started a free play session in Rio and set some special grinds

Let's see if I can get the hang of landing into a manual first

I've got an hour or so left on this samurai juice break

[stoic shoal]

Mm. Managing to occasionally bridge grinds, but struggling with it enough that I still worry I won't be able to get this point

I'll keep popping into Rio to practice my grinds once or twice a day and hope that's enough

I've done 3/3 for like 14 months but this is one I can't just power or savestate through. I have to git gud or fail this time

(actually having fun with Patapon tho)

[frozen nimbus]

Has anybody cheated and just clicked credits from the main menu? Be honest

[distant scarab]

I mean, as someone who finds this game extremely hard, you 1,000% absolutely can savestate. you can pause while you're mid-grind

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, if you wanna cheese it, you absolutely can

[stoic shoal]

Oh. Honestly keeping balance isn't the hard part, so much as thinking quickly enough to chain tricks

I guess I could save state that, if I were quick enough about making the state

[fleet cedar]

You might even be able to use in-game cheats and still unlock credits

I haven’t tested it personally for getting credits, but there’s a perfect balance cheat and not worrying about balance might give you more time to think about what tricks to use

[stone junco]

WAIT WHAT?

[fervent haven]

Dang lol. Not knocking you but I didn't feel I was very good at the game and it maybe took me...4-5?

I did spam save states for some of the higher goals though and such but not excessively

[stone junco]

Do the tutorial

That's the #1 piece of advice

Advice 2 is use the dpad

[coral hill]

Tried the N64 and PSX version for fun, avoid the N64 version if possible. It's serviceable but doesn't mean it's worthwhile. PSX is wholesome, mostly because it's built using the thps2 engine and it shows/feels like it.

[stone junco]

I used the analog stick for a while and beat my head against a wall. Then I did the tutorial and switched to dpad and my combos were much easier

Not as easy as those 1 million points in 45 seconds youtube channels, but still easier

[fervent haven]

Yea I didn't use the sticks at all. Just didnt feel right

[coral hill]

Dpad reigns supreme for the original thps trio

[frosty ore]

Wow I've never tried it with the dpad before

I'm excited to suddenly become pro

[winter skiff]

dpad reigns for any and all mainline Tony Hawk games ever released ever

[orchid apex]

I finally did it. All goals. All golds. 570K on cruise ship. Now I can play as Darth Maul

Do I torture myself with pata pon's slightly lagged timing or enjoy some links awakening next? 😆

[spare vapor]

LA is better, but I didn’t notice any lag in pata might be some settings to tweak there

[long mountain]

Skill issue, no lag on RP Flip 2 for me with Patapon

[orchid apex]

Maaan, I'm also on flip 2. It's so slight. I had the same timing issue with Parappa. Years of playing to a metronome biting me in the ass 😆

I can do it, but the OCD kicks in

When I play on og hardware there is no lag

[spare vapor]

parappa you could have zero input lag and keeping the beat perfectly would fail you every time that game shipped broken ngl but it’s still fun haha

some levels are offset differently than others even, it’s a mess

[stone junco]

Guys don't complain about patapon

[frosty ore]

Wait is that true? Oh my god I always thought I was the problem

[spare vapor]

nah that game is a mess, you can look up some guides on how the freestyling works, button mashing with a rule or two lol

[distant scarab]

There was a whole lot there of "i dont know what any of these things are that im doing" and also "i dont understand what makes one thing 'better' than another" and basically led me to, even after doing the tutorial, randomly jamming buttons and doing random things with no particular thought or aim

watching videos of how to do the goals helped a lot to be like "ohhhh here's some of the things you can do" and finding a list of moves also helped

the amount of spam-grinding to "cheat" your way to high scores felt dumb - i basically got punished for thinking that skateboarding is about doing cool jumps and spins and shit, which is a lot of what you would've seen on Xgames 25 years ago as I recall

finally finished the game and i get why some people find it fun, especially if that's something you were into and something like a "one leg japan" means something to you. and yeah, im sure i was very bad at the game

but also, that was a miserable experience and i regret it

[wild pier]

THPS’s relationship to real skating is similar to Tekken’s relationship to martial arts. It’s also a system that evolved from 1 and 2. It’s a bit overwhelming if you haven’t played those.

[distant scarab]

thats probably too harsh. i enjoyed doing the goals that didn't involve trying to get the high score goals

having to do those things sucked though

[shy river]

Yeah like, they got the trick names and animations (mostly) right and clearly put in effort there but it is obviously in no way trying to be a simulation

[shy river]

Yeah the series always kinda struggled with keeping vert and street skating balanced. In 1 before the manual where the length of combos was more limited just doing halfpipe stuff was more competitive but even with the revert in 3 it's hard to fit a big grab trick into combos sometimes

[distant scarab]

yeah, it makes sense that you'd rub off some of the rougher edges to make the simulation more fun than realistically immersive. that's a part of almost any simulation game. I just found the keys necessary to maintaining longer chains of tricks to be really unintuitive, especially because to me (who knows nothing about this), doing lots of tricks and jumps on a half pipe should be a chain of tricks

[shy river]

Yeah that's what the revert is for but yeah the amount of speed you lose and having to keep manual balance limits it too much

[wild pier]

agree. it's called tony hawk so shouldn't pulling off the 900 be the ultimate thing you could do? nah. connecting multiple grinds with manuals in between.

but it is fun once I get past that

[shy river]

Yeah it's funny that it's Tony hawk's game but his style of skating is worse in it

[frosty ore]

I got "cool" one time and I was so proud of myself

Disappointed

How do I get completion credit for this now?

[fleet cedar]

Need to get all goals for all levels and (I think) all gold medals for the 3 comps

I really wish the revert wasn’t limited so much. The 5 revert limit really hurts vert styles

[stoic shoal]

Maybe this is my problem. I've been using the stick

[frosty ore]

Idk I don't feel like using the dpad helped me

Only for balance

Not revert manual off a vert trick 😢

"links gay awakening" is an excellent display name btw

I'd play that game

[barren sinew]

I think that's the alternate title of Breath of the Wild

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-neco-gerudo-botw-link-gif-10581832170496714574

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, the Tony Hawk games are not intended for analog stick usage. Nowhere near as precise or fast as d-pad

[stoic adder]

anything with fast combos that are purely directions, like the special tricks, the dpad is immensly better. There is travel time going from the center of the stick to the rim, or from one corner of the stick to another, which will make it slower than d-pad

[stoic shoal]

this explains some things, yeah. tyty

[shy river]

yeah especially the double tap the same direction controls which are a lot harder on an analog stick and are necessary (at least with default trick mappings) for some late game goals

and for doing bonelesses

[spare vapor]

damn I played with the sticks I played myself

[stoic adder]

double taps, opposite directions... its unnecessarily harder on analogue stick and super easy on d-pad its not even funny

[shy river]

yeah the input windows are super forgiving too, its not fighitng game inputs. even if you cant do oppsite directions super fast on a high pivot dpad its more important you do it accurately

[boreal fulcrum]

I’m terrible. Music is good. I suck at the game. It’s better than thrasher. But I don’t get this… seems like you just find a rail and spam triangle and try to jump off before you fall.

[brittle orbit]

Completed this one. I had it originally, but don’t think I ever made it all the way through all the objectives. Took a while to regain muscle memory, but it was really fun once I started to remember how to put tricks together

[stoic adder]

you can also jump between rails to keep the balance meter from moving too much and do a flip trick between them

[fervent haven]

I felt really bad, then felt "Ok" by the time I beat it

[boreal fulcrum]

I can tell it’s a good enough game. Just might not be for me. It’s leagues better than skate and destroy, but I was somehow better at that game?

[stone junco]

daily reminder: have you done the tutorial?

I went from existential crisis at how I would beat the game to knocking out all of the goals over the course of a day and a half

[fervent haven]

I hate to say it but Zu is probably right. I didn't - just brute forced it. But it only took me 3-4 days to beat it

[stone junco]

manuals and grinds and luck can get you a shit ton of points in a few seconds. Canada is really the only map where I never had any flow. I had to do the goals in distinct chunks

but like... foundry, you can knock out almost all of them in one run without too much trouble

[snow sonnet]

Love a good zu success story

A zuccess

[boreal fulcrum]

There’s a tutorial?!

[boreal fulcrum]

Tutorial does help some... I'm still passing off foundry requirements one at a time. Just need secret tape and better scoring now though, and I think I can do the scoring with the tutorial help. Does help a little with the completely foreign language.

[orchid apex]

Doing a revert / switch right when you land on a half pipe doubles your trick score, then immediately jump into a manual to keep the multiplier going, then back up the pipe or jump on a rail. You can get 80 - 100k in one combo after some practice.

Save States are a very helpful handicap also if you're struggling

[stoic shoal]

Jump into a manual, then back up the pipe. Is this, like, turning around while doing a manual

Oh hey just managed a 9k-something trick in the super scoring combo tutorial. by the skin of my teeth

but it's an improvement I guess

D-pad is a tiny bit easier

At least I'm not at the point where I'm stuck on the special meter/tricks tutorial anymore

[boreal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-never-do-that-i-dont-do-that-ill-never-do-that-i-wont-do-that-mae-whitman-gif-14147253

[boreal fulcrum]

yeah, this looks pretty key, but I'll need to git gud to pull it off. I have trouble keeping balance in this game.

[orchid apex]

Yeah that's a tough part too, allocate as much as you can towards your balance to help

[stoic shoal]

See my problem isn't balance, it's getting the muscle memory to actually reliably combo into a trick as opposed to freezing up and losing my combo

then again I invested in rail balance right away so idk

[boreal fulcrum]

I can do tricks fine enough... landing them is a bit of a proble sometimes. Some of the tricks seem to rotate your board some, so it looks straight, or at least close enough, but then I get a landed sideways text with a bunch of blood and gore.

[orchid apex]

Yeah manual and turn around or go up the pipe on the other side if you can find a spot that has a traditional half pipe. The indoor garden on cruise ship is an example of both sides of the pipe being close together so you can keep combos going longer.

[boreal fulcrum]

Sounds like the secret area in foundry will be easy enough to get a big combo if I can manage it.

[orchid apex]

I would only use dpad if you can help it, I found the joystick too sloppy

You don't even need to manual if you can get back up the pipe quickly enough where your combo timer won't stop

[stoic shoal]

This is starting to sound like to score in the foundry I should use the half-pipe rather than the rails (I'm not sure what to combo the rails into, unless I'm misremembering how far they are from the quarter-pipes)

See for me it feels like the trick counter ends like a millisecond after you touch the ground

[boreal fulcrum]

use the secret area. It has rails and a big bowl.

also, the lip tricks, if you can balance, seem pretty good and kind of rail grinding like if you'd rather.

[stoic shoal]

Do you mean the reactor room?

[boreal fulcrum]

yeah, the place that opens after you unlock the 5 valves thing.

[stoic shoal]

I could take a look at it

[boreal fulcrum]

your run starts right in front of it. Just turn around.

[stoic shoal]

Also while on rails should I be ollie-ing on them to get multiple grinds out of one rail? Some of them seem short enough that I'm afraid to do this for fear of missing landing back on the rail

[boreal fulcrum]

ollie on them and try to do a flip or rotation trick with it, yes.

[stoic shoal]

Does the secret area actually have rails or are you talking about the lip of the walkway

This makes me wonder if grinding on an edge uses the rail grinding stat

Yeah this is a round edge, I don't know that I can actually ollie on this thing

observation: it's harder to balance if you lose momentum on an uphill grind and start sliding back down

[wild pier]

pretty sure balance is related to time you've spent in the grind. so many short grinds linked with tricks raises your multiplier whereas staying in a grind for longer increases your base score faster. need to balance the two.

[stoic shoal]

Hmm, fair enough

Trying the half-pipe in the Foundry and finding I'm bad at keeping momentum to continue a combo between the two quarterpipes

All right, found my scoring space in the Foundry. It'll get me to the pro score goal at least.

(it's the far end of the foundry with the long semicircle rail with a long enough straight stretch to ollie into multiple grinds)

well I got to 46.8k anyway

Best combo was 16884 in 7 tricks (no comply + fs 50-50 + rail hop + bs 50-50 + fs 50-50 + bs 50-50 + bs 50-50)

I have gone from 99% shit to only 98% shit, which is a doubling of my nonshit quotient

[boreal fulcrum]

I still suck, but I think I know how to not suck now.

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-knowing-is-half-the-battle-knowing-battle-gif-25791425

[stoic shoal]

please share the tip

could use

[boreal fulcrum]

Just everything we've been talking about for the last 1.5 hours. 😆

[wild pier]

mix up your grinds. one tip if you're having trouble thinking on your feet is to just go around the dpad. so your first grind is up+triangle, next grind is right+triangle, then down+triangle.

[stoic shoal]

56304 this time

There's a thought, Tao. ty

[wild pier]

you can also extend the chain by landing in a manual, skating to another rail and then continuing so it opens up the level for you.

[boreal fulcrum]

this is the key from the tutorial. That and revert.

I think once you can consistently do those, big scores should come pretty easily.

[stoic shoal]

Yeah I do manual between rails sometimes, I'm just bad it doing so consistently

Which is why manuals aren't showing up in my longest combos

[boreal fulcrum]

So that's your problem. Get better at manuals. that's the key.

(it's mine too).

[stoic shoal]

68201, with best combo being 29238 in 6 tricks (fs 50-50 + bs fandangle + rail hop + bs 50-50 + fs 50-50 + bs 50-50)

And one of these days I'll manage to grind the stupid bucket

bucket down

I no longer have to report to the factory

service economy time

OK, first score goal in Canada down. fell just short of 60k there, so I have a little bit to go to get to 70k, and... 120k a little intimidating yet? I was using the pair of long rails in the parking lot that both end near quarter-pipes, though I'm not yet really managing to combo into the quarterpipes and back again

best combo... 20160 in 7 tricks. fakie ollie + bs 50-50 + bs 50-50 + parking lot mini gap + bs nosegrind + bs coffin + nose manual

which is at least slightly more diverse than my foundry game

[winter skiff]

real quick, this isn’t true.

[orchid apex]

Try on the Tokyo level's pipes. if you land and immediately go back up the pipe it continues the combo, I was surprised by that.

This was for the ps2 version

[stoic adder]

It is though. It's rare but sometimes you can go at a speed that can keep the combo going without a manual

[simple linden]

Last levels score goals really holding me up, I keep getting too greedy trying to chain my combo and end up biffing it or jumping into the ocean

[brittle orbit]

Yeah that was the part that took me the longest, followed closely by getting gold in Tokyo

I could do ~50K combos fairly reliably, and ~200K combos occasionally if starting from a good position and managing to avoid screwing up. But after restarting a bunch of times before landing the first giant combo, I had a really hard time doing the second.

Eventually I somehow landed a 350 to start, and then was able to just do a few easy combos to close it out.

[orchid apex]

Cruise ship i found doing tricks in the emptied pool is the easiest

You empty the pool to get the "inverse the high wires" goal

And doing long grinds around the life boats, hopping between them

Also the greenhouse

[brittle orbit]

And right after that, I suddenly discovered that

1. NetherSX2 has a setting that shows you normal-looking achievement popups and progress but turns off sending achievements to the server. For some reason.

And

2. this setting was somehow enabled the entire time I was playing this game over the past few weeks, even though I had never scrolled that far down in the menu and had no idea it existed. Not sure if it was defaulted to on, or glitched, or what.

[brittle orbit]

I tried that, but had too many times where I accidentally hit the slide, or the gap in the rail when trying to grind.

[brittle orbit]

Yeah, my 350k combo was to immediately turn around from the starting point and go back to the half pipe, hold a lip trick as long as possible to build up a big point value, and then revert/manual over to the nearby rail and jump down into the greenhouse and spam grinds and flip tricks on the looping path among the planters to raise the multiplier.

[boreal fulcrum]

Alright, I give up. I can’t play this game. Over four hours in and I still can’t get tricks over like 10k. Made it to the first competition and I get like 20k points. I just suck at this game or I’m not understanding something. It’s not fun.

This is the first video game that’s really just made me feel old. lol. 😂

I can’t do it.

[frozen nimbus]

It took me a long time to get it too. Having not played since the OG 25 or whatever years ago, it felt completely foreign to me

[stone junco]

The correct device also helps. I was messing around with this on the Flip 2 and was doing terrible compared to the 557

Use the most Dual Shock-y device you have

[boreal fulcrum]

I’ve been playing on pc and steam deck. Pc using an 8bitdo ultimate 2c. I could use an 8bitdo pro 2. That is almost a DualShock 2 clone.

But I don’t think that’s the problem. I tried the first competition for an hour straight, but with such a short time limit and only breaking 30k once and that still only being good enough for 2nd place, I don’t think I could do it better and definitely not 2 more times in a row in any reasonable time.

The game requires precise inputs very quickly, repeatedly, and sustained for a long time. I just don’t seem to have the speed or consistency to reliably do that in this game. Maybe after many, many hours. Like a hundred.

[barren sinew]

I legitimately think THPS3 would've been a more fun GOTM if we just had to finish all of the levels, not make the credits roll

100%ing the game is rough

[frosty ore]

I still don't know where the last skater is in canada and I made it to the cruise ship smh

[barren sinew]

I think the 8 hour HLTB is just for finishing all the levels, and I think that was deceptive

[boreal fulcrum]

I finished that bit. There’s one by the fence rails to your right at the start. The rest are in the skate park area with the pools. I think there’s actually more than five, scattered around. You just have to impress 5, by doing a combo that scores ~4K points or so, from what I gather.

[frosty ore]

Ooh okay if there's more than five then I'm reënergized

[boreal fulcrum]

Those were the five I hit. Once you impress them, they vanish. But they were all just hanging out at the top of quarter pipes.

[barren sinew]

I have also found you generally need to land near them, not just pass them while doing a combo

[stone junco]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-old-man-saving-private-gif-13333225

[boreal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-brian-baumgartner-kevin-malone-it-all-happened-so-fast-so-fast-gif-5151849

[shy river]

i think passing them works actually? ive definitely done 2 or 3 in one combo

maybe you have to do a trick in front of them as a part of the combo and not just like grind past them maybe?

[barren sinew]

Huh weird, it did not work for me unless I landed pretty nearby, maybe I just got unlucky

[barren sinew]

That could be it for sure

[frozen nimbus]

I just did a lip trick next to all of them and they liked that

[orchid apex]

I get it man. I feel this way on many other gotx games. This month is patapon for me. Alex kid is also not fun. 😆

[chrome robin]

Here I am struggling to get 100k on Skater Island and this person OMG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh3Kmmd36sY

[chrome robin]

Mastering the manual is what took my game to the next level

[wild pier]

it's not easy to find videos of people who are merely good at this game on youtube

[chrome robin]

Haha indeed

"How to barely succeed at all level goals in THPS3" No results found

[shy river]

https://youtu.be/KMjlf4ZVhmM yeah this person is the best i can find

they're doing 100k combos not 1 mil combos at least haha

[wild pier]

my goal is usually to try to string together 40-50k combos so aiming for a multiplier of 8-10 and a base score of 4k-5k

[shy river]

yeah maybe focus on getting the base score up? 8-10 multiplier isnt bad but if you can work in a long special grind or a big spinning grab or something you can pump up that base score

[wild pier]

having grinds as your special moves is key I think

[shy river]

yeah special grinds and manuals are good. flip and grab ones can be good too but they're harder to fit into a combo for sure

[spare vapor]

Starting with a special lip trick can really build that base quick

[shy river]

i like christ air cuz its not really that much slower than some of the other harder to land non-special grab tricks

[chrome robin]

OMG there's a secret area?!?

[shy river]

yeah! ||grind the pirate flag||

[chrome robin]

Not gonna lie, I kind of had a better routine going before ||that wall got blown out by the cannons...||

[chrome robin]

Ok LA letsaaa goooo

[barren sinew]

Finally pushed through this block

Honestly hated this level with a passion

[shy river]

rock solid first heat tho!

[winter skiff]

tony hawk on a game boy clone is tripping me out man

i’m so curious to know if i could play well on a vertical device

i bet it’s weird. and bad.

[shy river]

idk i think i could adjust pretty fast? but idk i dont use the shoulders as much as i probably should lol i usually just spin with the dpad

[winter skiff]

you should maybe consider a different device @barren sinew ! it might help lol

[shy river]

as long as its dpad dominant

[winter skiff]

definitely. but it’s the shoulders that sound like they’d be bad to use!

[shy river]

fair but they aren't super necessary? i like tossing in nollies and pivots and sometimes i remember to use them during grabs... but i usually just use the grabs with side inputs anyway

[winter skiff]

yeah i guess..

R2 is mandatory

R1 and L1 less so. like you, I tend to spin with the dpad. I just can’t remember to consistently spin with the shoulders

in later games the shoulders are needed for quick turns

also not necessary at all, and not in thps3

[barren sinew]

I haven’t used the shoulder buttons a single time in this game so far

[wild pier]

That’s so weird. So y’all input your trick and then start spinning?

[winter skiff]

yeah in 3 they’re just for faster spins. with full stats, it’s usually the difference between a 720 and a 900

[winter skiff]

no, you start spinning first, then throw the trick.

it’s optimal

[shy river]

i clearly dont use r2 nearly enough lmao

[winter skiff]

but i didn’t grow up playing that way, and habits formed over more than two decades are hard to break

[wild pier]

But then you’re only doing two tricks?

[shy river]

oh wait its reverts yeah

[winter skiff]

bro you should be throwing like four reverts per combo

[shy river]

yeah i forgot lmao i was just playing the gba version

[winter skiff]

oh nice

[barren sinew]

My brain is too small for this

I just beanplant-kick flip-nose grind-gap-heel flip-50/50-gap-impossible etc until I run out of rails and I land

[winter skiff]

not necessarily. it’s a bit hard to explain. You launch off a ramp, and hold L1 or R1 immediately to start spinning. Keep holding the button, then throw a flip or a grab with the dpad and face buttons. Throw as many as you can, all while still holding the shoulder button.

[shy river]

i try to remember to use l2 sometimes for free points/multiplier but its hard

[winter skiff]

okay i’m gonna sound stupid

what’s L2 do

[shy river]

nollie

[winter skiff]

😳

[barren sinew]

This game proves to be arcane even to Red

[wild pier]

ok that's what I do. I was commenting on whoever only spins with dpad.

[shy river]

its like doing boneslesses or no comply basically, tap it to go into nollie stance and then yr next jump will be a nollie

[barren sinew]

That’s me hi

[winter skiff]

this is wild. do you know how many hours i have in this game over my entire life? AND I DIDNT KNOW THIS?

[barren sinew]

My issue with Rio wasn’t getting one good score. It was spending a minute getting one good score, and then not having the energy to go for another 2 runs

[shy river]

if you do it switch its a fakie too

[wild pier]

you can get high scores without revert. you're just playing thps2 then though.

[barren sinew]

Also one of the times I went like 91-92, and then Chad Fucking Muska went 89-95 and murdered me. I haven’t seen a single npc score higher than 90 before or after that

I gave up for like a week after seeing that

[winter skiff]

you’ve blown my mind, Smith

[shy river]

true chad behaviour

[barren sinew]

The game I played hundreds of hours of as a kid was THUG, and the physics and tricks feel so different here than my muscle memory

[shy river]

its not really a useful mechanic really lol cuz u dont go higher or anything like with bonelesses

[winter skiff]

is there an option in 1+2 to turn off modern gameplay features like spine transfers and revert, or am i crazy and making things up

[shy river]

but for like incremental extra score gains

[shy river]

i wanna say yes but i never used it?

and the high scores are adjusted around having those things tbh and i dont think they change when you turn them off

[winter skiff]

the physics between 3 and thug are way closer than you think. 3 may be 24 years old, but it’s the foundation for the entire Tony Hawk series. every game after this feels basically the same as 3.

[barren sinew]

I think the stat point scaling is really what’s getting me. In THUG they feel like they start a lot lower, but from my memory you get crazy powerful. And I feel like the stats just don’t go that crazy in this. Which is probably for the best, but all of my memory of THUG is with a maxxed out skater

Also caveman, skitching, etc

[winter skiff]

caveman and boneless are in 3, actually

[shy river]

yeah i think stats do go higher in thug... but yeah the physics became what they were in 3 and stayed very similar after

[winter skiff]

nope i was wrong

i was thinking of no comply lol

[shy river]

not caveman caveman is when you go off board and jump into going back onto it

really good combo extender in the thug games and on yeah

there are a lot less flatland tricks in 3 so that does make it a bit harder to just, extend combos for free during manuals

[winter skiff]

i should fire up 3 and try a character with zero stats. never done that before.

[barren sinew]

And multiplier builder. You could just chain manuals and caveman, and then get one big trick for a ton of points

[shy river]

and theres only a few grind extensions

[shy river]

if you unlock it i think ||neversoft eyeball|| starts with 0 stats

[winter skiff]

complex flip tricks take way longer in 3

[shy river]

yeah thats true actually

unless im on a ramp i keep flips to cardinal directions

[winter skiff]

and the double square flips. it’s my habit to throw a double or triple kick flip or whatever, but that takes so long in 3

[shy river]

yeah. and they were undocumented "hidden tricks" in 3 lol

[spare vapor]

Will say this is the only game I’ve come back to after beating this month for some free skate goodness

[frozen nimbus]

I wish listed the remake. It was kind of fun when it clicked. Unfun when it didn't click. Also unfun not knowing how to do some of the challenges

[boreal fulcrum]

Finally got 70k in the comp and got third so I can advance.

[boreal fulcrum]

Figured out almost everything in suburbia. Secret tape is eluding me though.

[stoic shoal]

I broke down and just looked up the how-to starting in, like, Canada, myself

[vague bay]

Did you help the thin man yet?

[frozen nimbus]

If you found the axe and gave it to the guy, which I guess you did as it's a challenge, you should be able to find it without too much difficulty.

I was ok up until skate park trying to find one of the skill points. Then like half of the LA challenges

[coral hill]

Sounds... fun?

[fervent haven]

I used guides for all of the goals and had a pretty good time with the game. Wasn't until I hit like... the last few stages that I felt like I actually got pretty decent

[boreal fulcrum]

Score challenges are the hardest part for me, for sure.

[fervent haven]

It'll be that way until the end, then it will suddenly sorta click

[shy river]

i had a weirdly difficult time with the last few SKATE ones lol they get a little tricky. tho i guess it depends on which skater you use too

[coral hill]

i am too stubbon to move beyond the first state until i get EVERYTHING from there

[snow sonnet]

I go to a new place as soon as I unlock it everytime lol

[coral hill]

i'd probably enjot the game a lot more if i were to do so

[snow sonnet]

Especially since some goals are annoying to try to get with low stats

Yeah definitely move on to a different level if you’re starting to have a bad time and come back later

[shy river]

i was full clearing everything but also this isnt my first rodeo. i didnt get all stats/decks tho i guess

[coral hill]

alright, will give it a go

[simple linden]

Finally finished. Those last score challenges took me way too long but I really enjoyed the game overall. I don't think I've ever properly beaten any of the older titles pre T.H.U.G. so this was a nice challenge

[chrome robin]

Does a 3rd place finish on Cruise Ship count as completion or do you have to get 1st?

[shy river]

do you mean on tokyo? cruise ship isnt even a competition?

but yeah i think to roll credits you need golds on all 3 contests

[chrome robin]

Sorry, yes, I meant Tokyo

Do you mean you need gold on all 3 just to unlock Cruise Ship and THEN have to finish Cruise Ship to roll credits or is Cruise Ship entirely bonus?

Oh dang, I'm realizing now that to roll credits you have to finish EVERY.SINGLE.OBJECTIVE for EVERY.SINGLE.LEVEL?

[shy river]

yes

[chrome robin]

Woof, this will be a rough week of grinding...

[shy river]

you need to medal on tokyo to unlock cruiseship i think? but u need 3 golds and all goals to get credits

[chrome robin]

I am still enjoying it though, so I believe in myself

[shy river]

if you can get gold in tokyo you can probably pull off the sick scores in LA and cruise ship with twice as much time. honestly the LA one might be harder just cuz it's a harder level

even tho the score is 100k lower

[chrome robin]

I think I need to figure out how to revert

[spare vapor]

revert really helps, you got this

[boreal fulcrum]

I hate how randomly the balance thing seems to just be an automatic fail sometimes. Start a grind and immediately die. Makes no sense.

[wild pier]

during a combo? or from no combo?

[boreal fulcrum]

Seems like it can happen any time, but usually right before I’m going to end a combo and makes me lose everything. 😆

Or I at least remember those more because the pain is so real.

[frozen nimbus]

You should never automatically fail balance. It remembers where your balance meter and the speed of becoming imbalanced, so if you stopped grinding right before you were about to fall and then try to grind again on the same combo, it will look like you immediately fall, but it's just because you saved yourself before you almost fell

[winter skiff]

the balance meters actually are a bit more forgiving than that: they don’t immediately start at their last state, they recenter themselves a bit each time. this is a big part of why hopping between grinds quickly is encouraged

[shy river]

yeah tho they also get less stable the more times you grind so they can swing faster. you gotta react fast

[frozen nimbus]

Really? I tested it with a savestate. One time I had it near the end and could only survive if I immediately held up, then it went to the center and was pretty controllable

[boreal fulcrum]

I don’t know. They sure don’t feel forgiving once they’re deflected ~50 or more. The. They just want to throw you off. It has gotten better after investing in rail balance. Like a lot. But starting out it’s bad.

[spare vapor]

Think I might need to check out 4 after this, I never played it when it was new, no time limit sounds cool

[boreal fulcrum]

I got through a few of the missions in airport, but some of them seem impossible? Airwalk over the baggag claim thing? I can't jump that high and there isn't a ramp nearby, just the one on top of it, but even that is too high to get to really. I did do it once and launched off the jump, but it didn't count.

I can’t figure out how to get some of the skill point things either.

[vague bay]

Isn't it airwalk over an escalator? ||It is at the baggage claim but it's the escalator behind it rather than the actual bit with the conveyor belt.||

[boreal fulcrum]

are you serious? It does say escalator, but the video seems to focus on the baggage claim carousel. That’s annoying.

I’ll give it a shot.

[shy river]

street skaters have the alternate goal of grinding the carousel in that same slot, maybe that's the confusion?

[vague bay]

Oh yeah true. Perhaps they even use the same video clip to explain both goals. I only did one run-through this time with the Birdman himself so I got the airwalk goal.

[fleet cedar]

4 is so much fun. Much more of an open-level type of game and the levels are great

You get the goals from NPCs standing around the levels instead of just being given them at the start of a run

Some of the goals are pretty basic, but many of them are able to be much more interesting because of that format

[shy river]

yeah i played jamie thomas so i did the street goals

[orchid bridge]

What are the requirements for beating the game? I have played it for a long time now throughout all the levels, grinding on goals. Not sure if I have done it already

[spare vapor]

All golds in the comps and all the goals in all the regular levels

[orchid bridge]

Thank you!

[spare vapor]

Done a few challenges on the first level of thps4 with a custom skater now, pretty sick, the spine transfers is so useful

[orchid apex]

What's cool is the skills you learn here can transfer over to some of the other THPS games, like the new remasters!

[shy river]

i should replay thps4 before the remake too... not sure if it runs on rp3+ as easily as 3 did tho lol might have to use my ally

[fleet cedar]

I have a feeling it’d be harder to run, but you never know

[shy river]

Yeah it's hard to tell how much the engine might have changed under the hood in a sequel. Sometimes the sequel even runs better lol I had an easier time with ssx3 than tricky

[stoic shoal]

Well, shit. Still struggling a bit with consistently getting past like six tricks without bailing or missing a manual

Or revert

Also the grind loop in Rio. erf

OOP

just did a 166k combo in Rio in freeplay on the grind loop

that was kind of lightning in a bottle and I don't know how well I can repeat it tho

and mostly it was predicated on just actually keeping the grind going rather than working in more ollies and flip tricks

[shy river]

yeah i remember in the multiplayer on the pc version people would play rio and just keep combos going forever lmao

but yeah focus on keeping the combo going first and then when you're comfortable doing that maybe add the flip tricks back in

[stoic shoal]

Yeah. It's just, it's one thing to get huge bonuses from endless grinds in Rio, but very different to do it in Canada

[shy river]

just ignore the whole forest section and focus on the street section and the skatepark lol, much more flow to those parts.

[stoic shoal]

Oh yeah I've been focusing on the parking lot. Maybe there's a better place to work with

[stoic shoal]

Yep that one long trick was lightning in a bottle. Mangling it all over the place now

[stoic shoal]

Holy balls.

Just took gold in Rio.

I am improving. Slowly. My middle run was basically a zero

So I'm still very inconsistent

[spare vapor]

Need to play more 4 today, really like the free skate feel to the career, guess I should maybe try the thug games too

[vague bay]

I remember really enjoying THUG #1 & #2 and American Wasteland growing up. But I've almost completely forgotten them it was so long ago so I think I'd enjoy playing through a lot of them too.

[winter skiff]

4 is sick, I replayed it a couple weeks ago. I definitely want to replay thug next!

[spare vapor]

I’m still in the first area, I unlocked the second but I want to try to get as much done in it as possible. Tennis kinda sucked lol

Spine transfers make lip moves op, you can’t fail on either side if you’re on a spine

[boreal fulcrum]

Cleared everything up to the highest score for airport. Not sure where I can go to break 200k. I need a half pipe, and they’re lacking in the airport.

Airport has been one of my least favorite stages. So linear and closed off.

[shy river]

there's the pools at the very end but i get most of my points with a big combo down all the escalators/light fixtures

[snow sonnet]

Airport is so fun to grind through

[brittle orbit]

I really struggled with the last score goal until I started focusing on the baggage claim. Start on the high lip, grind the rails in a semicircle and build up enough speed to do another lip or grab, and repeat.

[boreal fulcrum]

I think my go to has just been two vertical tricks connected with revert and manuals into a lip trick and revert and manual to finish. Gets like 50k every time and isn’t terribly difficult to pull off, as long as you have a half pipe.

And I have found one, but it takes like a full minute just to get there.

[shy river]

yeah airport is definitely more of a street level. you can do really great combos from the start using the lights over the escalators and stuff with a bunch of different gaps

[fleet cedar]

I especially like the rails around the final room

[shy river]

yeah airport is one of my favourites lol i think it has really fun lines without being too free like rio or cruise ship

[stoic shoal]

I should probably work a bit more on incorporating vert tricks. Maybe eventually.

That I took gold in Rio and get an occasional 100k+ trick tells me I am improving, slowly

and inconsistently

[stoic adder]

hop between rails at the beginning of airport, do a flip trick between each. you can start from the service desk, manual to the 3 rails in the middle of the room, then jump, flip (square + direction you're flipping to is easy), hit triangle again to pick up the second rail, repeat between them

[fleet cedar]

Played some of the THUG2 Classic mode. It’s rough.

Those levels are not designed with classic goals in mind at all

And every skater starts off with 3/10 stats across the board

The goals and stat point locations don’t take this into account, either

[boreal fulcrum]

I always seem to have trouble flipping on and off rails. Vert style seems more me, I guess.

[stoic adder]

That's fair, it does feel off at first. Pressing X then triangle quickly isn't the most intuitive

[boreal fulcrum]

I can’t seem to do it quickly enough consistently. It’s a big gamble to try.

[long mountain]

I'm having less fun playing this than I thought I would. I remember playing THPS back in the day with my brother and I recall it being way more fun than what I'm experiencing now.

[boreal fulcrum]

I do kind of like the random challenges in the levels, but actually doing skating stuff like earning x points is not fun, imo.

I have no idea how to accomplish most tasks in LA though. Way too vague. I’m guessing Tokyo and cruise ship are similar?

[wild pier]

It’s funny I mainly like the high score chasing and think the collectathon stuff is tedious.

[boreal fulcrum]

I don’t like the way tricks work in this. Just too technical or something? I like tricky. This is too much. Finding the random routes and stuff is more enjoyable overall.

It’s not like awful, but I’d like more arcade-ness myself, as someone with absolutely 0 interest in skateboarding.

[wild pier]

One thing I think I’ve learned is the game doesn’t want you grinding on the same rail multiple times. You lose balance much faster. Better to hop between rails or even jump off into manual and jump back on.

[shy river]

tokyo is a contest level and cruise ship is generally less cryptic aside from one or two id say?

[dire coral]

Man I can’t for the life of me get the speed for some of these grinds. Stats are maxed and still as soon as I hit a rail I slow right down.

I’m stuck in LA cause I can’t get the secret tape or do the Varial Kickflip gap

[dire coral]

Never mind I managed to do them both finally. Idk what I did diffeeently for me to rocket off that way but they’re done

[brittle orbit]

For me, the timing often throws me off. I don’t know how many times I bailed because I hit triangle before the flip trick was done. Also sometimes reflexively went for a flip even when there wasn’t time, like when jumping up to a higher rail.

[shy river]

yeah idk i guess i always revisited these games often enough that i never lost the muscle memory?

[boreal fulcrum]

Yeah, it’s just too tight. Maybe 1 was more forgiving and this was tightened up for more experienced players?

[shy river]

like even before i got into emulation handhelds id play the pc versions

the jumps are a little faster and tighter in this one for sure, 1 and 2 (and the ps1 versions of 3 and 4) are floatier

[boreal fulcrum]

This is my first, and I feel old.

[shy river]

but also tricks are slower in the ps1 engine ones so it kind of evens out

balance is also pretty notably more forgiving in this one

and 1 and 2 didnt even show the metre lol you just had to look at the guy leaning over

[chrome robin]

Haven't even unlocked Cruise Ship yet, this is coming down to the wire

[boreal fulcrum]

I’m still in LA.

And have the high score in airport to beat still.

[winter skiff]

oh man, did you play Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD?

i did.

that sucked 😂

[shy river]

yes sadly lol. on ps3 tho

i still had the pc versions of 2 and 3 so i only really bought it to support the series haha i could still play the games anyway

[coral hill]

Worse than thps5? 🤣

[fleet cedar]

I liked THPS5 tbh. It played well, but THPS HD really did not.

[winter skiff]

never did play thps5. it looks rough tho

[long mountain]

Thought I was finally done with this one, then a whole 'nother level opens up...

[winter skiff]

you’ve gotta impress those Neversoft girls!

[long mountain]

That's the only goal I've got left, I had a tough time finding five in the Canada level so seven in two minutes might be rough

[chrome robin]

Every time I watch andyTHPS it just blows me away.

He'll have 3 seconds left and hasn't done any of the scores goals and BAM, rocks a one million point combo like it's NOTHING

[long mountain]

Done! I had some fun with the non-score goals, but as soon as I had to start racking up hundreds of thousands in points my interest dropped dramatically. Also the competition levels for the same reason. I think I would've had more fun if it was a bit more arcade-y and a bit less technical.

[wild pier]

the YouTube algorithm is also suggesting a lot of andythps to me as well

This was a fun run to watch though completely unhelpful for our purposes https://youtu.be/oK5mlpJ6Ubk

[spare vapor]

Man thps4 is good. I really like just being able to restart right at the challenge over and over until I nail it haha

[chrome robin]

Yea I've had to resort to some pretty ridiculous savescumming to get this done

[boreal fulcrum]

I may have to start save scumming to finish. Don’t want too, but this game is not fun anymore.

[boreal fulcrum]

Spent a good 3 hours on a drive in Tokyo and best I could muster is silver. 😱

[snow sonnet]

Don’t give up👊

[boreal fulcrum]

Tony hawk is making my wife think I’m developing Tourette’s syndrome. I haven’t raged at a game this bad a long time.

[spare vapor]

Half way through the 3rd levels first 16 goals (I guess at some point they all open up to 21 idk?) and thps4 is very good. Runs less well on my 556 I turned it down to 2x res and still hit slow down occasionally but it feels like maybe that was in the game idk lol but really good take on th I think dunno why I never played before

The levels are awesome so far

And a small thing but it’s really nice how the tracks keep playing as you retry things

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, that game is when they stopped switching tracks upon retry

[spare vapor]

With the spine transfer level out button you really feel a lot more agile / mobile, or at least my mid skill ass does

[chrome robin]

The way I play THPS3, I barely get 10 seconds into each song before a retry lololololol

[fleet cedar]

It worked okay for the first game since most of the songs were pretty short, but as the series progressed, they started having longer songs, so only getting to hear the first 2 minutes kinda sucked

[orchid apex]

i FEEL this

I was yelling in the woods this weekend at the THPS1/2 remake

[unique perch]

why I stopped Gotw

[boreal fulcrum]

I’m not used to being so bad at a game. 😆

[unique perch]

It's was one my most played ps2 games

[wide oracle]

I think it would be interesting for someone who is really good at a particular GotM to do an instructional stream or two where other folks can jump in and be like "ok show me how to get gold in Tokyo", or "How do you get [Stat Point X]"

I don't know if this is a phemonenon just for me, but sometimes I feel like I don't know "how to be good" at a game - THPS3 might not be the best example but it took me a while to figure out how to properly play the lambhorgini gotw

[boreal fulcrum]

I’m just struggling with the precise and super fast inputs without screwing anything up. It’s a lot.

Maybe I’m just playing wrong and doing too much or something, but this game is just tough and forgiving for me.

[wide oracle]

The Tony Hawk games are particularly steep, because each game kind of assumes you were pretty good at the previous entry, and just continues to layer more complexity on top of that

THPS1 - Vanilla
THPS2 - Vanilla + Manuals
THPS3 - Vanilla + Manuals + Reverts

and the scores required to progress are absolutely reflective of the need to incorporate these new mechanics

[wild pier]

I think one issue is that the casual playthrough is supposed to end after medaling in the 3rd competition. All goals and golds leads to credits but may have been intended only for dedicated players.

[boreal fulcrum]

It does feel like I’m trying to master the game rather than just beat it, and it is in a compressed timeline. I don’t mind difficult games with steep curves usually. I just don’t feel like I’m actually improving. Getting around 200k in Tokyo seems like a lightning in a bottle event. I can do it from time to time… but 3x in a row without screwing up? No, that’s not happening and not without a ton of practice. But screw up once and feel like I might as well just start over. And that’s a very frustrating cycle.

[spare vapor]

You just need to do it 67% of the time since it drops one

But yeah it’s tough to get all goals and golds

Credits is credits

[brittle orbit]

Yup, I had this as a kid, and pretty sure I stopped after medaling in Tokyo.

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, for comps, I always just do the first two runs and then end the comp if I’m already guaranteed to get gold lol

It’s certainly weird having played a game/series for most of my life and then seeing people play it for the first time

It’s like “what do you mean you can’t just do it?”

“You mean not everyone has been playing these games since the first one released?” 🤯

[winter skiff]

it REALLY is 😵‍💫

bragging for a bit in a way that will make me sound like a jerk, comps take a full minute for me max. end the first two rounds after thirty seconds, end the third round immediately, win gold with 99.9

if anything, this shows that thps3 probably needed difficulty options

this is a feature that was finally introduced two games later in THUG

[fleet cedar]

Just go play Classic Mode for THUG2 cuz even the normal difficulty is pretty rough lol

Those levels clearly were not designed with classic mode in mind, so it doesn’t work well at all imo

[winter skiff]

i don’t remember that mode in thug2 🫨

[fleet cedar]

Plus they start you with 3/10 stats across the board for all skaters

I can’t imagine what the sick difficulty’s like lol

[winter skiff]

thug1 on Sick is hard enough, tyvm!

[fleet cedar]

While doing all goals in one run is reasonably doable for most levels on 1-3, there’s absolutely no way on most of the THUG2 levels because they use the exact same levels from the story mode

[winter skiff]

well that’s just bad design

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, it’s really bad

[winter skiff]

(and it’s what 4 in 3+4 is gonna be like)

[fleet cedar]

At least those levels aren’t as weird and you’ll have an adjustable run timer

[winter skiff]

adjustable timer?

[fleet cedar]

Yep, you can change the length of a run

[winter skiff]

that’s… bizarre

[fleet cedar]

Probably to accommodate for the larger levels

[winter skiff]

THEN WHY NOT JUST GIVE US 4 LIKE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHH

[fleet cedar]

Of course we can’t really see it being used yet, so I guess we’ll see how it goes

[winter skiff]

like don’t get me wrong, i’m very happy to be getting this game. but just, like. WHY?

[fleet cedar]

My guess is that they don’t have the original voice lines (or they’re not in high enough quality) and didn’t have the time/money to redo all of them

[winter skiff]

i don’t care if Ollie the Magic Bum reads all the lines, no one listens to those anyway!

“oh no, i dropped the skate letters again” yeah no shit!

[fleet cedar]

I’m also bummed that there are essentially no THPS4 music tracks in it

I’m just gonna listen to a playlist with songs from both games or something

[winter skiff]

is that confirmed? i noticed that too and thought it was weird

i need Spokesman on the tracklist!

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, they’re only doing those 3 waves of songs and unless they announce something different last minute, that’s all we get

There are way too many great tracks from 4 to not have them in the game

[winter skiff]

4 seems like such an afterthought

i just played it a couple weeks ago - it’s REALLY GOOD

[fleet cedar]

I need to play it again

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had started remaking 4 properly, but then execs were like “yeah nah, that’s gonna take too long” and they had to just throw it together in a classic mode

[winter skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-fist-gif-23915056

[fleet cedar]

It sucks, but I know I’m still gonna have an amazing time with it

[shy river]

Fr lol I have been playing these games for like 20+ years. Sometimes with long gaps where it takes a minute to get my bearings again but yeah it comes back to me pretty quick

[shy river]

They cut some of the best ones from 3 too. The 1+2 remake cut a lot less songs

[dire coral]

I’m done. Damn that last 500k was killing me. I was worried I wouldn’t make it.

[barren sinew]

Trying to push through this because I do find it fun but wow I just can’t handle some of these challenges

Like heel flip the trailer hop? I can’t even cross the trailer

[fleet cedar]

Oh, a trick that may help. You can do a boneless just after leaving a ramp to go farther

So like just after the board leaves the ramp, hit up up X/A and you’ll do a boneless off the air

Also, if you increase your hangtime stat, that’ll help (if it’s not already max)

[barren sinew]

I’ll give that a shot thank you

The advice online was to do an Ollie but I can’t figure out how to do that, I keep doing a Beanplant

[spare vapor]

That one was kinda difficult early with lower stats, definitely want to be in special for it for speed / hang / air

[fleet cedar]

Well an ollie is just a regular jump

[barren sinew]

Everything said to do ^^X for an Ollie

[fleet cedar]

Fyi air is just for launching from half-pipes

Oh, that’s a boneless.

[barren sinew]

Ohhhh

But I’m doing a beanplant instead when I do that

[fleet cedar]

That’s the same thing

The difference is which arm they’re grabbing the board with

[spare vapor]

For Ollie drop the directionals. For boneless do up once not twice

[barren sinew]

🫡

[fleet cedar]

Up once is No Comply/Fast Plant

[barren sinew]

Learning so much

[spare vapor]

oh you’re right

“Press up,up,x to either fastplant,no comply,beanplant or boneless. The move you do depends on your character.
“ ooooooh lol

[fleet cedar]

But yeah, some of the goals in the first 3 games (and maybe the later ones, too idk) require doing a boneless just past the ramp in order to do them. The only way to know you can do that is by reading a loading screen tip in the first game (maybe the second as well idr) or by figuring it out yourself lol

[shy river]

huh i didnt know you could fastplant or beanplant lmao i guess i just always play characters that boneless

[spare vapor]

Now I gotta go mess around in free skate with diff people

[shy river]

lunar was playing elissa steamer i think?

[spare vapor]

nice

[shy river]

but ya idk i usually play rune glifberg and this time i went with jamie thomas and they both boneless

[fleet cedar]

Oh, another thing. When doing a boneless, you can hold X to keep your speed up and press up up, then let go of X

So for doing that past a ramp, hold X and then up up at the end of the ramp and let go of X shortly after

[spare vapor]

Yeah confirming Darth Maul pulls a boneless whilst ms steamer is a full on bean planter

[fleet cedar]

But yeah, no comply/fast plant is absolutely up+X

Been that way forever

[barren sinew]

Steamer is who I am playing as

[fleet cedar]

Oh, also make sure you’re in your character’s normal stance and not switch unless you have the Switch stat maxed

[spare vapor]

Seems like most skaters do a boneless, it takes too long to switch characters for me to go through em all tho lol

[barren sinew]

How do I know/do this?

[fleet cedar]

Check the top right corner for a skateboard symbol. If it says SWITCH on it, then press R2 to revert to normal stance

[shy river]

looks like in the ps1 version everyone just bonelesses lol

[fleet cedar]

Each character has a Regular or Goofy stance which means they prefer either facing to the right or to the left

[barren sinew]

I’ve been on Switch the entire game so far

[fleet cedar]

I think it’s in the top right. I could be misremembering

[barren sinew]

I didn’t even realize what the UI element meant

[spare vapor]

oops! Either max that stat or start turning around

[fleet cedar]

Ahhh, yeah. Press R2 and things will be easier

And yeah, once you max the Switch stat, you’re equally as good either way

Usually getting it up to at least 8 is good enough, but max is ideal

[barren sinew]

Any way I can check my stats during a run?

[fleet cedar]

Hmm, I don’t remember tbh

[spare vapor]

I think not, think you have to do it between runs in 3. Something 4 improves.

[fleet cedar]

I don’t even remember a way to see them between runs except when you get a new stat point

[spare vapor]

Yeah I’m looking at it now, I had to go to edit create a skater to do it not sure for the main chars I didn’t unlock any stats for them

Oh okay at the end of run screen I do have an edit stats

And it does let you tweak their original points

[shy river]

oh yeah you can tweak the original stats below where they started even if you havent collected any statpoints? didnt know that

[spare vapor]

Yup now trying a run as a 0 stat skater lol

[shy river]

iirc one of the unlockable characters starts at all 1s

[spare vapor]

0 stat skater surprisingly not as bad as I thought

[fleet cedar]

For 3, I take all the stats out of lip balance until I’ve maxed everything else out lol

[shy river]

i think it would be worse in the ps1 games lol i think the stat scaling was stronger in those ones

[fleet cedar]

Spin isn’t super necessary, either. I don’t think there’s a huge difference between like 6 and 10

[barren sinew]

I'm so demoralized, I finally did it and it didn't count the gap 😮‍💨

Phew finally got it

Thanks for the help

[barren sinew]

Was having a nice time playing during my lunch but now a student is just hanging out in my office until his class is over

[stoic shoal]

I'm in Liquid's boat tbh. I'm not actually having fun with this game. To the extent that I've been doing it, it's to try to convince myself I can still learn to do new things

That, and because failing this would be my first break in 3/3 for over a year

Maybe I'm not getting too old to learn new shit but it just isn't always worth it

[barren sinew]

I feel like I'm having fun until I get to any sort of scoring challenge and then it's not fun anymore

[stoic shoal]

I remember having kind of liked one of the THUG games when I was younger. Were they less focused on scoring challenges?

[barren sinew]

I've been playing THUG fairly recently and it's more absurd story shit and tricks than it is scoring

I think later in the story it gets to be more score centric

But also your character gets so OP with experience

[stoic shoal]

That would explain why it was a different experience

[fleet cedar]

I think learning the game would be much less strenuous if you weren't on a time constraint lol

[barren sinew]

I agree, also if I could just play the game without having to 100% every level I’d be a lot more chill

[stoic shoal]

This. Getting credits requiring getting all the scoring goals and golds makes it less fun than if we didn't have to basically 100% it

[barren sinew]

The HLTB that I know plenty of people voted for also is stringent on just finishing the levels, not 100%ing them

[stoic shoal]

Which one? Is there a version of the game that doesn't require you to 100% all goals and golds?

[barren sinew]

So, 7.5 hours to finish the game, main+sides is 15 hours, completionist is 37.5. We're definitely pushing the 20 hour mark with our completion requirements

[barren sinew]

When it was up for voting the HLTB showed 7.5 hours, but that's not really true because HLTB doesn't count until credits like we do, it just counts people "completing" the game, which for most people is just beating all of the levels

[stoic shoal]

So we got kinda screwed. rip

[shy river]

i think completionist is all goals with all skaters

[barren sinew]

When I'm in the air how do I differentiate holding the d-pad for tricks and air movement?

Feels like a total crapshoot

Maybe my hands just can't handle this

[wild pier]

by air movement do you mean spinning?

[spare vapor]

for tricks you should more tap than hold, you can also use the bumpers / shoulders for spinning

[barren sinew]

No like, directionally. When I jump, sometimes I can hit a d-pad button for a trick, but sometimes when I do that I just turn like 50 degrees and fly away

[spare vapor]

might be doing the direction input too early like before you ollie?

[barren sinew]

Hmm maybe

[spare vapor]

that is kind of a finnicky thing in the game tho in general, sometimes had trouble getting the transfers right because of it

[barren sinew]

I think I am just going to drop this for my sanity

Fun game, I enjoy Tony Hawk games, I've never had to try this hard at one, and if I were playing for myself I wouldn't be doing this

[wild pier]

jumping off a rail to the side is like the hardest thing

[winter skiff]

just a question for folks having a hard time with the game - are y’all holding down the ollie button (X on a playstation controller) all the time? So instead of hitting X to jump, you let go of X to jump. Holding the ollie button makes you go faster.

[barren sinew]

Yes I am holding it all the time

[boreal fulcrum]

Yes. My thumb actually hurts and is numb after playing for like an hour because of it. 😆

I need to see a video of someone's hands on the controller while playing. Either I'm just trying to do to much or you all have some really speedy thumbs. I don't get it.

[fleet cedar]

I think it sounds about right, maybe even a little high depending on your skill level. I got credits in 1.5-2 hours and I was feeling a bit rusty since I've been playing the more modern ones lately.

[barren sinew]

Yeah but you're a fan of the series, HLTB isn't generally for someone who has played the games before

[fleet cedar]

That's why I'm saying it's probably average. Considering both people fairly new and familiar with the series

[barren sinew]

Their "fastest" listed completion time for the PS2 version is 1 hour 20 minutes

[boreal fulcrum]

I don't even want to look how long I've played and I still suck. First time I've ever been way over HLTB for something like this.

[barren sinew]

So if you're at 1.5 hours you're already edging up to their fastest time

[fleet cedar]

The speed run world record is 6 minutes lmfao

[barren sinew]

That is discounting speedruns, that is it's own category

[fleet cedar]

I know, it's just funny how quickly it can actually be done

[winter skiff]

I rolled credits in about 90 minutes as well, just to back up Entombment’s claim lol. Experience and skill, I suppose. 7-ish hours sounds about right to me for a brand-new player though.

[barren sinew]

I think you're overestimating the skill of a brand new player

To finish all of the stages, sure

But 100% a character to hit credits? I really doubt it

[fleet cedar]

Didn’t the HLTB when voting say 9 hours?

Yeah it did

[winter skiff]

the exact hltb rating probably doesn’t matter - it’s clear that the hltb is off by a significant amount for a good amount of our people here

[fleet cedar]

Yeah, it’s going to vary greatly depending on each person’s experience with these types of games, even if it’s not with this series in particular. Someone with little or no experience with these types of games is a lot more likely to struggle with it.

I haven’t checked if you can still get credits with cheats or not

[winter skiff]

has it ever happened in gotx history where Rapid changed the completion requirements? getting Gold in Tokyo is a high enough bar and one that a lot of folks might find significantly easier than all golds and all goals.

[barren sinew]

Probably not and honestly I'd feel bad if he ended up changing it, plenty of people here found it doable, I just didn't, and that's okay

[fleet cedar]

I honestly don’t know. Credits are usually the indicator that a game has been finished unless the game doesn’t show credits when it’s finished

Next, we should get a Guitar Hero game to win and see how people do with that

[barren sinew]

I'd have an easier time with that than this

[winter skiff]

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

[barren sinew]

I think Rock Band Unplugged would actually be a fun GOTM

[fleet cedar]

Of course then people would have to either get a guitar or use a gamepad, which sucks lol

[barren sinew]

Why didn't I nominate that for May

Damn

I forgot

Unplugged was so cool

[fleet cedar]

I never played it

[winter skiff]

Guitar Hero On Tour for the DS. everyone needs a DS Lite and an attachment from ebay 😆

[fleet cedar]

Oh god lmao

[winter skiff]

unplugged was excellent

[barren sinew]

That was so much worse than Unplugged 😅

[winter skiff]

it’s FreQ/Amplitude !

[barren sinew]

Strumming with the touchscreen killed me

[fleet cedar]

There’s also RB3 for DS, which was apparently good, but I haven’t played it

Frequency goes HARD

I played that so much as a kid

[chrome robin]

The RNG on your opponents scores during competitions is MADDENING!

I get like 93 on my first two runs, solidly in GOLD and then my opponent pulls out a 97 on their final heat and I drop to SILVER...

GUH...

YESSSSSS I GOT IT!!! LETSSS GOOOO

Now for GOLD on Tokyo and wrap up Cruise Ship

[stoic shoal]

Oh hey I'm not the only person playing Steamer! Sadly I'm probably not going to beat this game this month. Scoring goals are still the death of me

I'm still on Skater Island atm

[boreal fulcrum]

Been stuck on tokyo for forever, still need to beat scores on airport, LA, and all of cruise ship. Quickly losing hope too.

[wild pier]

https://tenor.com/view/youcandoit-believe-encouragement-yes-doit-gif-4399864

[chrome robin]

It's definitely past fun now and I'm just raging against the game solely to finish my GOTM

[winter skiff]

Raging Against something is so THPS2

[chrome robin]

KILLING IN THE NAME OF....!!

LA sick score will be the death of me, any suggestions for high pockets of bonus grinds?

[shy river]

i did a big combo at the start just riding the initial rail, veering off to the right corner and grinding down the planters along the stairs, then doing the fountain and then i kept it going from there. but that opening line has a couple gaps and can get you big points

[winter skiff]

more like guerrilla radio 🤘

[orchid apex]

THIS 😆

[winter skiff]

here’s a (very sloppy) LA run I just did to demonstrate some lines. apologies for the primitive filming techniques ||and also for the awful play lol||

[spare vapor]

lol sorry I laughed at the end but yeah you’re actually good at this

[orchid apex]

Solid run still!

[shy river]

yeah youre better than me lol

[fleet cedar]

A good place I like to combo is the purple halfpipe. I do a vert special and then grind on the one closest to the street. Then I keep grinding along that rail, doing flip tricks and grinding again, and doing the double-button grind switches. Could also throw in some grind specials.

[chrome robin]

Brilliant, thanks!

[boreal fulcrum]

Here's what a normal person ready to give this thing up looks like trying to get one decent combo going on Tokyo. Whatever fun I was having with this game is completely overshadowed now. I have 0 desire to play any more tony hawk games after this.

I just repeat the same 10 seconds ad naseum for hours at end. So fun.

[frozen nimbus]

I think you're trying to combine too much. That looks like a line a pro would take. For us mortals, stick to an easier pattern. I used the bowls at the back and just did a combo of 2 jump tricks then got on the rails for as long as I could and repeat

[boreal fulcrum]

I was trying that at first... but I could never really get over 150k reliably... I'm trying to get back over the bento box, do some vert trick there, than hopefully jump over the bento box thing again, and then catch the rails on the right that lead to the bowl at the back, with some kick tricks along the way. I've been able to almost do it like once.

holy crap. I finally did one run with 206k.

and... that's still only good enough for 2nd place after one heat. I hate this game.

so dumb...

holy crap. I finally pulled it off.

[vague bay]

Nice work. Now go and impress all them Neversoft girls and get outta there.

[boreal fulcrum]

Still have to get 300k on airport and 2 more trick challenges in LA first. I'm still probably not finishing this, and still not really having a good time.

[winter skiff]

This doesn’t even look bad bro. You’ve got the skill to be good at this game. I think the pressure of trying to finish it this month has ruined it for you, but you definitely aren’t bad at Tony Hawk

[snow sonnet]

You really are a monster🫡

[boreal fulcrum]

Sure doesn’t feel that way. I am trying to finish it in like a week, yes, but I’ve put hours into this thing and still don’t feel that close. I’m much better at vert stuff than grinding and flipping trick combos, so I don’t know if I can get 300k in airport. And I haven’t even tried cruise ship. Went to bed after finally getting gold in Tokyo.

I should probably go back and get some more skill points. I’m missing. I think I’ve missed one and almost every level, and almost all of them on airport. I just don’t know how to even get some of those.

And haven’t seen any of it in Tokyo. I think I’ve got one there.

[spare vapor]

Messed up saves and lost a bunch of progress in thps4, bummer, probably won’t play it again for awhile but honestly after playing a few levels get why people don’t like the idea of it being condensed into 2 minute runs in the remake coming out. Also 4’s levels shit on 3s tbh

[winter skiff]

this is EXACTLY what happened to me. I was in the Zoo and got sent all the way back to alcatraz. decided i’d wait for the remake instead of getting back to where i was

[unique perch]

When THPS3 was new I think it took me 6 months to 100% it.

[boreal fulcrum]

Gross... I just looked at how much time I've dumped into this... 21 hours...

[unique perch]

should be playing #997151131471986839

[chrome robin]

WTAF! Back to back 95s should be more than enough to beat Tokyo...AND YET!!!

BOOM! 97 on Tokyo, EAT IT

Time to sink this Cruise Ship and be done with this

[winter skiff]

heck yeah! get it!

[orchid apex]

💪

[boreal fulcrum]

So, I need to finish all goals in all stages right? I can't just finish cruise ship to get credits?

[orchid apex]

Yessir, and get gold in the 3 competitions

Need to get each goal in each stage

You don't have to get all the stat boosts though

[boreal fulcrum]

That part is done. I need to get some scores in airport and LA and do all of cruise ship.

Decks don't matter either, yeah?

[orchid apex]

There's a rail by the pool you grind on to drain the pool, then you have a bowl to get that 500k easier

Also you get the high wire goal by jumping as high as possible to grab those cords in the air in the pool, and do a lip trick on the cords (the one where you're upside down, I think down on dpad + usual lip trick button)

That one took me a few, I had to watch a video

[boreal fulcrum]

Thanks. I'll take a look. I haven't played cruise ship at all yet. Gotta figure out airport and LA anyway.

[spare vapor]

The atrium area is great for points too

[shy river]

i didnt even drain the pool lol i forgot you could do that, street skaters have a different goal

[unique perch]

I need 4 more completions. We can do this.

[winter skiff]

what was your number?

i could run through the game four more times for ya

[wild pier]

I haven't finished yet. I played 1, 2, and 3 this month. a little burned out of tony hawk now.

[chrome robin]

I got sick score left for cruise ship and I'm finito

[wide oracle]

Taony Hawk

[boreal fulcrum]

I’m hoping to finish, but not very confident at the moment.

Realistically, today/tonight is my last opportunity. And I also want to finish the gotw.

[wild pier]

What I have left

[brittle orbit]

You can do it! Gold on Tokyo was probably the hardest thing for me to finish, so if you got that out of the way, you probably have the skills to complete the other score goals.

[shy river]

Yeah you got this. Some of the goals in cruise ship and LA are tricky but nothing insane once you know what to do

[shy river]

Idk I find the contests easier than the later sick scores. Like I can just do one monster combo and end run and do well but my combos aren't big enough to do the sick scores in one

And cuz tricks devalue the more you do them it is kinda easier to do 200k in one minute then 400k in two minutes

[brittle orbit]

Consistency was my issue there. I don't know how many times I managed one great run in a competition only to fail to replicate it in the next two tries.

[shy river]

yeah fair enough

I guess I have a tendency to really nail down a lot of my opening line so I get pretty consistent at a combo I want to go for at the start of the level. And contests don't penalize you for doing the same thing every heat lol

[wild pier]

I think this was harder than Tokyo

[shy river]

Yeah to me the last two or three sick scores were harder than Tokyo but idk I don't usually struggle with the contests in this one. I remember the contests in 2 being harder

[boreal fulcrum]

Airport is finally done. On to LA.

LA down already?! wow...

just cruise ship left.

[spare vapor]

You got this

[boreal fulcrum]

hmm... can't find the 7th neversoft girl..

[boreal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-lotr-elijah-wood-frodo-baggins-its-done-gif-5398465

not gonna lie, ||darth maul|| is a pretty sweet reward for this hell I've gone through. 😆

I had quite a bit of fun there by the end, but I'm not touching Tony Hawk anything for a good long while.

[stoic shoal]

I'm not gonna make this one. I'm at the very end of LA and Patapon and can cash those in, but this one beat me. First game to derail my over-a-year 3/3 streak.

[stoic shoal]

I'm kind of pissed at myself now. I am not old enough to have an excuse for not getting my thumbs around this game

[shy river]

they always had really good unlockable characters lol. started with ||spider-man|| in thps2. underground 2 had ||shrek|| of all things

[winter skiff]

fantastic! well done LD!!

[winter skiff]

here i am sitting here going how the actual heck do i not remember Shrek being in thug2

[shy river]

looked it up and apparently you unlock him by beating the story mode on easy... understandable that you might not have played on easy lmao

[winter skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[chrome robin]

OMG OMG OMG I DID IT!!

That was waaaaay too close

[winter skiff]

Great job Mitch!!

[wild pier]

Got it

[winter skiff]

so many folks are overcoming tonight. it’s great!

It’s been so much fun playing and talking THPS all month. It’s been a blast. Much respect to everyone who pushed through and finished it! Hope everyone plays 3+4 in a few weeks

o7 o7 o7

[wild pier]

I’m still 10-12 goals away

Need to get kids in bed and then see

[clear oriole]

Banger game

Beat it last night and it took me right back to my childhood

[shy river]

Yeah I'm definitely getting 3+4

Might try to replay og 4 first but it's been a long time... I think I played the GBA version more than the console version lol

[spare vapor]

I really liked what I saw of the ps2 version before I borked my save and gave up, flows nice

great levels

[wild pier]

1 goal left

do I still have time?

[winter skiff]

yes

go go go

you have until the new games are announced

[wild pier]

Done

[winter skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908

[unique perch]

I was just kidding about this game being mid.

[wild pier]

Played 1, 2, and 3 this month. 3 has the best soundtrack. Fitting for the theme.

NOOOO

Oh well

[chrome robin]

I'm almost certainly buying 1+2 remake now to play through it ❤️

[chrome robin]

Same thing happened to me with Advance Wars last year because I was traveling in a different time zone and didn't do the math, was this your 1/3 2/3 or 3/3 GOTM?

[wild pier]

2nd game. Already finished Patapon.

[wild pier]

On sale even

[stoic shoal]

Are 1+2 gentler where the scoring goals are concerned?

[wild pier]

I haven't played the remakes past the 2nd level of 1, but I'd say the physics feel like 3 except a bit slower and bit more generous

of the originals, 1 is the easiest. mainly there's no revert and no manual so it's less about stringing together a big combo

[stoic shoal]

Oh thank fuck

Honestly I'm wondering if I can work my way up, or if skills developed in the ones without manuals and reverts will not transfer to the ones that have them

[wild pier]

I still felt like I had a learning curve when starting 3 this month after beating 1 and 2.

[stoic shoal]

Well shit.

[winter skiff]

1+2 are kinda the ultimate culmination of the entire Tony Hawk series. it’s got the widest array of skating mechanics (minus getting off the board), and the skill ceiling is by far the highest of the series.

that said, I don’t remember it being a difficult game. but of course, i’m quite experienced with the series so my opinion on its difficulty might not be worth much

[boreal fulcrum]

Maybe in a year. 😅

[chrome robin]

At least it didn't break your streak 😀

[chrome robin]

I was considering the Switch version but it could be nice to play on my LeGo and that sale is nice too

[shy river]

Sort of? Raw numbers are similar I think but you have more tools to get there and the physics are a touch more forgiving

[stoic shoal]

Hmm. Here I was gonna be like, "is this an easier game to start with than 3," since 3 kinda kicked my ass up and down

maybe not

[stoic shoal]

You mentioned you haven't played a lot of the remakes but did THPS 1 and 2 also have licensed soundtracks like 3? Were they preserved in the remaster?

[winter skiff]

A lot of the songs from the original soundtracks are in the remake, but not all of them. And there are new songs in the remake that weren’t on the original soundtracks.

[stoic shoal]

Hmm, fair enough

I'll have to look into that further

[winter skiff]

but yes, 1 and 2 had licensed music as well.

[stoic shoal]

now I'm wondering if the remakes have 25-years-older versions of the original pros in them

[shy river]

They do!

There's a bunch of more current pro skaters added too

[stoic shoal]

That's super cool actually

[charred heart]

THPS was formative for me! Such a good game. The second one a bit more of a mainstream feel to it but great game and controls.

[orchid bridge]

Am I the only one grinding for completion on Retroachievements after the month ended? This game is so much fun and you get pretty good at it after the second completed skater. I now rush through 2 skaters in one sitting, after figuring everything out. Great game and nice unlocks to keep me motivated

[rain otter]

https://tenor.com/view/slumber-disturb-cave-aladdin-secrets-gif-6114809

Not at all, cheevos give me crippling anxiety to not play games offline.

Awesome fun for good games.

[boreal fulcrum]

I might eventually, but I need a good long break first. May check out the remasters in like a year.

[brittle orbit]

I finished the game after playing on and off over a few weeks, only to realize that despite seeing achievements pop up all the way through, none of them were actually reflected on my account. Apparently there's a "test mode" setting in NetherSX2 that makes it look like you're getting achievements but doesn't actually send them to the server. No idea how it got enabled, as I don't remember ever scrolling that far down in the menu, but nothing counted.

On the bright side, most of the time I put in was building my own skills, so I should be able to do a replay much quicker if I have time.

[orchid bridge]

Sorry to hear that, but you will be surprised how much faster you geht through the levels and goals after some improvement. Rushing through them like it's nothing. But there are like 15 character to complete, so it still takes some time

[brittle orbit]

Oh yeah, if I do a replay I'll stop after beating it again. I like the game, but not enough to play through marginal variations 15 times in a row.

[orchid apex]

Still playing a bit! Switching over to the remake version soon

[wide oracle]

Ps2 version?

[orchid bridge]

Yes 👍

[wide oracle]

Brace your mental fortitude for the "Most Excellent Photo Taker" achievement (or whatever)