RG557

[rocky nebula]

the answer is better x86 handhelds for heavy stuff

anbernic, make an i5-1135g7 handheld. something that dusts the steam deck at the cpu level, and can manage most new AAA titles with XeSS rendering

[radiant meadow]

You see the problem serious headache

[ruby skiff]

it is a nice collection of baffling fuckups 😄

though retroid's Mini v1 fiasco still wins Fuckup Top Trumps for now

[rocky nebula]

gimp is a weird way of saying "copy/paste onto 556 firmware and call it done"

[wintry lark]

I think the miyoo flip hinge situation is worse tbh

[ruby skiff]

Miyoo has been a one trick pony for long time though, flip hinge is just a long way of going down a road of bollocks mediocrity

[hearty hound]

hm, maybe i just should buy lenovo xiaoxin pad 2025 (pad pro) with 8300 ultra to play ps2 on native

:/

idk

[ruby skiff]

looks like you need a odin 2 portal 😏 xD

jk, get what you wish ofc 😄

[radiant meadow]

🤭

[hearty hound]

dont, i test it ... too big

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[rocky nebula]

problem is gamer adhd. not knowing what handheld you like/want or what to play

[ruby skiff]

that and lack of willpower

[cunning garden]

I got my mini v2 screen as well, I need to gather the balls to do the job

[still ocean]

If anyone wants to try this script for performance boost

[hearty hound]

not bad (but tooooo big)

[still ocean]

With this script, running at 1x handheld mode. (Uzuy-MMJR-Android_Arm64 PR 9.apk)

Settings shown at the end

[swift lava]

Gimp is a image manipulation software

Buy a super sp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hearty hound]

yikes, why it that loud

[long chasm]

I’d only want it for PS2/GC/Wii so I’m happy

Great work gamma

[hearty hound]

g.c wii broken

[still ocean]

Jak 2 open world, 3.5x

[hearty hound]

u have something demading to test on ps2?

or switch

[still ocean]

isn't super mario odyssey demanding enough?

[hearty hound]

nah

witcher, doom, wolfensten, totk

🙂

mario mid i would say

[still ocean]

bleh I've got a frame of reference already

someone else can test

[hearty hound]

eh

well, somone should ...

[river parrot]

well considering Mario Odyssey ran like shit before Gamma's work, I'd say that's a good example

[hearty hound]

yup

insane results

[still ocean]

I forgot where the video of your initial attempt was, do you have a link? 🙂

[radiant meadow]

I LOVE YOU GAMMA

[hearty hound]

it is like 20% performance impove

+-

[river parrot]

I think it was Zu's video

[still ocean]

oh my bad! sorry man

thought I saw you post something about it too

[radiant meadow]

Yep as it should to be

[still ocean]

my memory fails me 😄

[river parrot]

but I've tested it myself using the prior script we had and various builds and best I was getting was 0.75X full speed*-ish*

[hearty hound]

totk probably most demanding game with ram drain issues (huge)

[river parrot]

I'm gonna run your script and then go back and test some stuff, I took notes on what I've tested so far

[still ocean]

ah good to hear that it still improves upon that script

[still ocean]

awesome, I'm not very good at testing a lot of games 🙂
I still remember when I did the initial work on 405m and actually had worse performance at first haha

[hearty hound]

😄

[ruby skiff]

damn, genius stuff 😄

the script something you need to do each boot?

[still ocean]

yeah, it will drain your battery though

so only use it when you want boosted performance

[ruby skiff]

fair 😄 how bads the battery drain when going full pelt?

[still ocean]

pretty battery hungry lol#

[ruby skiff]

sounds we need some tests 😛

[radiant meadow]

Oooo

[still ocean]

anyway, 2 things I noticed:

1. The GPU governor is broken, none of them actually report a correct speed, but you can force the clock
2. High performance mode toggle is broken, it doesn't actually set any of the CPU to performance mode

if I can get the bootloader unlocked, it will certainly allow me to make further improvements

decisions...

[signal cedar]

Full review: https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg557-review/

[signal cedar]

Also heck yes gamma!

[radiant meadow]

This is whole mad so the high performance mode is broken and even GPU governor is broken serious headache

[signal cedar]

Shaking my head

[hearty hound]

why t820 get that much time?

[ruby skiff]

we've been waiting a year 😛

[hearty hound]

yeah, if u make it ill unlock my 406 and insta flash

seems like it hold power too, anbernic moment (or maybe u have script?)

[radiant meadow]

How anbernic mess up with this one yk

[still ocean]

because the people have been waiting patiently. (most of that time was spent trying to get the damned bootloader unlocked in the first place on T820)

[swift lava]

S/V?

[hearty hound]

so it has the same issue like 557?

broken bootloader

...

[still ocean]

at first yes, then I got an exploit working to unlock bootloader

so yeah, I'll got back to T820 for now, get that out the door and revisit this after

my backlog is huge

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-filing-cabinet-files-bruce-almighty-gif-5554856

[hearty hound]

niice

[radiant meadow]

Gamma focus on the t820 and stuff before starting on rg557 we can wait

[lapis moat]

I would say the 557 needs more attention, the T820 is already fine as it is.

[wary tiger]

Maybe anbernic will fix it themselves before releasing the next d8300 device

[radiant meadow]

Also true

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-disappearing-we-out-i'm-outta-here-deuces-gif-6408007705951667367

[hearty hound]

t820 allot peoples, 557 broken overpriced device

so ...

[radiant meadow]

Byeee Gamma

[lapis moat]

There's nothing to even fix

[hearty hound]

firmware is a thing

probably anbernic has worst at moment

nothing work properly

[radiant meadow]

Actually having gamma os can boost the battery life and remove the bloat of anbernic stock

[hearty hound]

also performance

and maybe T820 will be able to hold most os ps2 stuff 30/60 consistant

[radiant meadow]

Little performance boost not a lot like rg405m but just enough

[hearty hound]

who knows))

[wide bison]

jak 2 compatible

[hearty hound]

we dont know realy potential, noone try tune t820

[radiant meadow]

Gamma got proven of rg406h it's little boost but not a lot it's in gamma thread

[crude mango]

would I get banned if I made a crude meme with my 406v sitting on a hotel room chair while the 557 is on the bed

[hearty hound]

hm, how much little is

[radiant meadow]

Like 5-10%

[hearty hound]

its not little !

50 and 55 fps (if 10%)

[radiant meadow]

Cpu

Gpu

[dawn jay]

Bumped my 3DMark score to 3233

3164 was the previous high water mark with the other script

[warm merlin]

all hail the mighty gamma

destroyer of bootloaders

[signal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-gif-1614955667706199731

[dawn jay]

60fps Mario time

[hearty hound]

hmmmm

that super low

[radiant meadow]

It's not a lot like t820 is really overachiever

[rocky nebula]

we can go harder

It's also out of our control now. He made his mind up to fix all the t820 devices. might as well just wait

[crude mango]

alternatively people actually own t820 devices and there's no reason to buy the 557

[lapis moat]

Right, and this would give a reason to

Squeaky wheel gets the oil

[rocky nebula]

8th Millenium War for switch is way more stable fps-wise on the t820 than on the d8300

[hearty hound]

well, its not ... 8300 it huge improve

in ps2 it almost insane

but price and brken firmware uh

[rocky nebula]

the improvement doesn't open any doors or add anything new

LifeAfter just plays at locked 60 instead of some variable rate. PS2 games play at 3x instead of 1.5

[hearty hound]

30 fps and 60

1x-1.5 and 3-4x

[long chasm]

It was like this on the 556 which was annoying

[radiant meadow]

But rg406h they fixed it actually

[rocky nebula]

yeah, all of that was fixed in first batch.

[hearty hound]

i dont think they can fix anything

[long chasm]

The high performance mode thing?

[hearty hound]

if fails like that

[radiant meadow]

I remember russ review when he put high performance mode on rg406h the performance was more stable

[rocky nebula]

i got mine right after zu showed torchlight running, which was batch one

[radiant meadow]

Yes

[long chasm]

It’s a shame we have to buy a device for a fix

[rocky nebula]

i haven't used gammafix or done the update at all on mine. high perf works fine. all it does is lock the clocks

[long chasm]

I didn’t notice any extra frames in the stuttering ones

On my 556

[hearty hound]

405 and 405 gamma it almost different devices

[long chasm]

For sure

[hearty hound]

with the same look

[lapis moat]

It can all be fixed, it's whether or not they want to is the question

[radiant meadow]

Yes because performance was worse than retroid

[long chasm]

Still solid PS2

[hearty hound]

btw any reason to lock 30 fps on ps2? or not worth (g and v)

cfg

the fact that i cant play MW on 820 with 1x in 40-45 stable fps a bit killing me 😄

i tried every possible setting

[rocky nebula]

you're expecting too much from the hardware.

[hearty hound]

maybe

but it fair for GOOD ps2 emulation status for that chipset

[rocky nebula]

you're playing "how do i make my device perfect" instead of "can i finish this game" and you're basically burning through your handheld choices.

[hearty hound]

im finishing on g.c (1080p) now, but until i can do stable framerate on ps2, will not start

4/15 speed run every police task, but long races super anoying

[radiant meadow]

Well I know people would say Don't use pal but since I'm from uk using pal on t820 it's actually perfect

[hearty hound]

yeah 50hz lock helping a bit

[rocky nebula]

i know there are people who get eyestrain from anything beneath 60hz, so the whole "pal is bad" argument actually does make sense.

[hearty hound]

its not work on lcd

this crt moment

[crude mango]

I think the bigger argument is that there is no way to get even frame pacing playing 50fps on a 60hz screen

If the 406 had VRR then pal roms would be fine

[hearty hound]

i know one real argument, in old consoles on PAL games run slowly and music broken

[radiant meadow]

You ain't lying

[hearty hound]

but even on ps1 not exist already

[radiant meadow]

Some games have real crash once or two depending on the games

Like the getaway black Monday or

If you crash too many cars you would get slow down

So when russ played the getaway that slow down it's real slow down from original console pal and ntsc

[uncut storm]

As someone that had to deal with pal 50 all his life until sixth gen consoles started supporting sometimes (ps2 was really poor on that btw) i will rather not play than play at 50hz again.

It does feel bad, specially once you see and get acustomed to 60hz.

[hearty hound]

zero difference in speed on ps2

[molten marsh]

it honestly depends on the game, sixth gen is when Pal60 started to become more of a thing

[uncut storm]

...unless you are talking "zero difference" between 50 and 60 hertz on this device, no, there is totally a difference between 50hz ps2 games and 60hz ps2 games

[hearty hound]

on controler* zero

[radiant meadow]

Yeah it's really depends on the game

[hearty hound]

example?

[molten marsh]

https://www.benoitren.be/60hz-palps2.html

[uncut storm]

...sure? I don't know if you're trying to say that inputs still register at 60hz, but that's not much consolation when the picture you get is significantly worse

[molten marsh]

there's an entire list

[hearty hound]

i didnt say there no hz limitation

i mean speed how game work

u dont see or feel difference

[molten marsh]

that again depends on the game, some games have the game logic running with frame updates, so games legit run slower

[uncut storm]

That is wrong, sorry

[hearty hound]

with mouse i will, but wit controller its like impossible

[hearty hound]

on ps2?

[molten marsh]

yes

[radiant meadow]

Yes

[hearty hound]

nah

[uncut storm]

Believe what you want

[hearty hound]

waiting proofs

[long chasm]

You planning on getting the 557

[radiant meadow]

Pes

[hearty hound]

link

[radiant meadow]

Pes 3 to 6 have 60hz mode

[hearty hound]

and?

[radiant meadow]

https://youtu.be/-F8GqRUUX68?si=KXsqgwsaNLi8cViF

[radiant meadow]

You asked proofs

Nah

[radiant meadow]

Even this list is actually right list

Not all games got that 60hz mode

[hearty hound]

im asking for proofs where compare 50 vs 60 in ps2

bc i say there no difference in SPEED

games runs the same, sound the same

[uncut storm]

Ps2 was the worst of the four systems to provide 60hz support, from memory. Dreamcast was the best as far as % of games supporting it

https://youtu.be/Chw0ZWvFSEg

[radiant meadow]

https://youtu.be/Z5pAkN0aTPw?si=dQzR7Uef2DwyoIiy

[molten marsh]

yeah you can see the cutscenes desync here pretty clearly

[uncut storm]

It's very obvious when a game works at 50hz

VERY obvious

This is not to say that people can't like it or even prefer it mind you

But the speed difference is there, and it can affect the game heavily

[hearty hound]

?? they not synchronized seems like

[uncut storm]

Some games were so poorly changed to 50hz that introduced issues

[molten marsh]

it entirely depended on the developers either adapting their game logic for 50hz, or making the game logic framerate independent in the first place

they DID get a lot better about it during the sixth gen, but it was still a problem

[radiant meadow]

One game I can say it's would be same issue is the getaway series because ntsc and pal no matter what version you still get slow down

[hearty hound]

interesting

[wide bison]

You planning on getting the 557

[long chasm]

Yup

[radiant meadow]

This

[hearty hound]

seems like i need to retest -_-

[radiant meadow]

I said the getaway series I can think of because no matter what version you use you would still get that slow down

Another I can think of is driv3r

[uncut storm]

They often had to resync audio to the lower speed of cutscenes for example

[radiant meadow]

Even fighting games run the same like tekken 4 and 5

Actually I'm lying the getaway black Monday doesn't have 60hz mode

But first one have 60hz mode

But you still get that slowdown in chapter 5

[uncut storm]

Some pal games had what people call "optimized pal" but 60hz is still better.

Pal50hz wasn't just speed, also resolution changes, stretching the picture (emulation tends to ignore this though)

[molten marsh]

can you believe I grew up with a version of ocarina of time that ran at 17fps

[radiant meadow]

I don't disagree with that

[hearty hound]

pal 576 ntsc 480

[uncut storm]

I don't know ps2 offhand but i know for other systems is 576

[radiant meadow]

Only og xbox had 60hz support in pal

I think

[molten marsh]

you mean for all games?

[radiant meadow]

Most of them not all of them like ninja gaiden 2004 version

But they fixed it in ninja gaiden black

[uncut storm]

Ps2, dc and gx had games at 60hz. Their menus did not, and the systems started ar 50hz

I think xbox had a 60hz option to.boot at that

By menus i mean the console "os"

[radiant meadow]

Yes xbox did had a 60hz option

[uncut storm]

I have very limited xbox knowledge, thanks for confirming it

[molten marsh]

I remember a lot of PAL gamecube games would frontload an option to play at either 60hz or 50hz mode

[uncut storm]

Yes,

They did

[molten marsh]

like mario kart is one that comes to mind which supported 60hz

[uncut storm]

Gc had overall better support than ps2, although it did have some weird omissions, like not a single mario party is 60hz.

[radiant meadow]

https://trailblazer34.blogspot.com/2016/08/xbox-titles-with-pal60-support-version-1.html?m=1

Gamecube and xbox had better support of Pal 60hz than playstation 2 pal

[uncut storm]

To me it was quite mindblowing to see 25 fps ps1 games like spyro, crash and such, an then see sonic adventure 2 and monkey ball at 60 fps.

I couldn't understand the smoothness. I was too young to understand any technical detail back then but man it became a core memory lol

Kinda like going from using the standard AV cables to rgb hahah

[molten marsh]

I remember feeling a little motion sick initially seeing a game run at 60fps lol

[vocal loom]

Oh bro I'm all for gamma working and tuning shit he wanted/had plans for. We shouldn't expect him to save devices lol, let devices fail.

[radiant meadow]

Same omds

[uncut storm]

Yessss

Too much information

It was trippy

[radiant meadow]

Rg557 is already failed

[vocal loom]

Good, let it keep failing

[wintry lark]

Yeah at some point the companies need to actually pull their own weight

[radiant meadow]

Right now only 53 people at ail express bought the devices

[vocal loom]

Best way to vote is with your wallet

I'm not buying this unless it's used or way cheaper. Especially with it's software issues

[wintry lark]

Good thing I wasn't planning on buying this anyway 🐈 (might buy it at 200 though)

[radiant meadow]

It's x10 worse than rg505

[vocal loom]

Besides the t820 line was great. And added gamma to that would be sick. Let gamma do his thing and praise upgrading good devices vs fixing devices for free from companies that take our money and give nothing to developers lol

[hearty hound]

facts

[vocal loom]

Shit dude gamma had to do so much to even be able to get a bootloader/work on the t820, and would have to here. Anbernic isn't even helping him do shit on these

[radiant meadow]

I agree with this that's why I said I rather have gamma focus on t820 devices first and others before rg557

Because anbernic messed rg557 up completely

It's DOA

[uncut storm]

Kinda my take with people fixing games released unfinished or broken by corpos.

They fix things but it's the companies making bank on them...

[radiant meadow]

Not this time you paying more for broken firmware and it's even more than odin 2 and same price with odin 2 portal

[uncut storm]

Yeah...

[radiant meadow]

More than rp5 flip 2 especially even steam deck and rog ally

[uncut storm]

Man, i was really interested in it

[hearty hound]

@still ocean script for phone will be different?

or the same

[supple anchor]

who we kidding

we buy devices to flash

gamma

or rocknix

anyways

[hearty hound]

😄

[vocal loom]

Negatory lol

[hearty hound]

even there ''we'' like 5%

[uncut storm]

I mean, custom firmware is... usually better from what I read

[supple anchor]

SILENCE

[vocal loom]

Android side I've actually not ever changed firmware

[hearty hound]

other use stock and scare to move

[supple anchor]

i need my justification to buy this

[hearty hound]

ahahah

dont

it the worst device by 4 years

[supple anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-xolo-xolo-villagers-of-xolo-villagers-jrny-club-gif-494317513733825223

[hearty hound]

price / performance

[wintry lark]

Buy a onexsugar instead

[hearty hound]

dont be fooled

[wintry lark]

Indiegogo launches tomorrow

[hearty hound]

aahha

i will never believe that i ever say that, but better buy Ayaneo ...

instead of this scam

[wintry lark]

Or a onexsugar

[hearty hound]

not ordinary thing

[wintry lark]

Extraordinary

[hearty hound]

extremaly

or just wait a bit for Pocket 6 🙂 (G2 Gen 2)

it should be like 8+ gen 1

extreme upgrade btw

[wintry lark]

Yeah the onexsugar is using the g3 gen 3 though

[hearty hound]

price a bit ...

[wintry lark]

We'll find out tomorrow

[hearty hound]

COMPLICATED

[radiant meadow]

If retroid get top stick for Pocket 6 it is overrrrrr

[lapis moat]

said that about the 5 too

[wintry lark]

Not much elsewhere to go from an 8+ gen 1 tbh

[humble dust]

I guess I'll wait for RG558 or RP8

[wintry lark]

Why wait when you can buy a onexsugar tomorrow

[radiant meadow]

Rp5 is actually peak andorid and Linux

[humble dust]

I wish the rg558 had the 406 joysticks instead of the super man capacitators joycons.

[lapis moat]

Ah but then you have to cross shop with the Odin 5 Pro

[hearty hound]

odin 2

[wintry lark]

Probably not even going to be on the Odin 4 atp

[radiant meadow]

Actually even odin 2 mini and portal will get linux support

[hearty hound]

um, they get

rocknix odin2

[hearty hound]

switch, xbox, ps3, x86

wii u

they all can utilize full power

(it gets turnip driver)

[radiant meadow]

Yeah same thing finally tho

[hearty hound]

soon i hope Xenia and after Shad 🙂

feel like rocknix pretty close

[wintry lark]

I mean switch maybe, Xbox is basically dead in the water at this point, Ps3 is going to take some time, and x86 is very hit or miss

[hearty hound]

xbox dead???????????

whaaat

[radiant meadow]

Wdym xbox is dead

[hearty hound]

original work even on Kona (865)

[wintry lark]

AFAIK there's no active development, unless I'm wrong

[hearty hound]

xemu

native linux

u can now gran turismo play / forza 🙂

on ur rp5 / flip 2/ odin 2

[wintry lark]

Ah nvm, last release was 12 hours ago

[hearty hound]

🙂

even xenia for linux get update week ago (test)

xbox360

[vocal loom]

Peak android if Odin 2 portal

Easily

Best device for android not even close

[radiant meadow]

Yeah yeah odin 2 portal then rp5

[vocal loom]

I struggle to say that, RP5 stick positioning is absolute bottom tier

Next to literal ewaste lol

It has ewaste stick positioning

That's really not even a joke lol

Even the 406v has insane stick positioning in comparison

A vertical

[warm wyvern]

What holds me from getting a portal is that i know when i get it now they will announce a new handheld a week later 😂

[radiant meadow]

I'm going to say something but if rp5 had a anbernic rg557 or even flip 2 stick it would be comfortable

[vocal loom]

Oh dude

Doesn't even matter

[wide bison]

how's the stick position on rp5, i dont own it but i had 406v and i like that stick placement a little bit and dpad on top is ideal for me because i like ps2 jrpgs

[vocal loom]

You could have a portal for a crazy long time

And be completely happy

[lapis moat]

They type of stick makes zero difference in where it is on the body

[radiant meadow]

It's fine but it gets uncomfortable compared to rp mini or rp4pro

[warm wyvern]

I know , i thought they would announce a Windows handheld as their next one but then i remembered they killed off the Loki. Maybe they will stay with the Portal for a bit more

[hearty hound]

WHATTTTTTT(
pocket ace

HOW IS THAT SO STRONG

[radiant meadow]

D8300

[hearty hound]

WTF

I though its gen 2

but no

[radiant meadow]

You didn't know that

That's why we was complaining about it whole time

[hearty hound]

nah, ik what is 8300

im talking about G3x Gen 2

this mf close to gen 3

[wide bison]

ayaneo pocket dmg..

[warm wyvern]

The D8300 is bulky , if that thing had driver support the possibilities we would unlock would be endless

[hearty hound]

-_-

[radiant meadow]

Oh G3x gen 2 is hit and mess for emulation it's fine

[hearty hound]

alr, prediction G2 Gen 2 = 8+ gen 1, forget

it will be like 8 gen 2 or little less

[radiant meadow]

Yes

You right

[hearty hound]

sick

waiting room Pocket 6 OPEN

take ur ticket.

new qualcomm chips awesome ...

[wide bison]

a ticket for a right stick layout

[radiant meadow]

This

[hearty hound]

decrese consumption, increse perfrormance

[radiant meadow]

No offence but it's time

[lapis moat]

The waiting room already exists #1351223469873958963

away from here

[vocal loom]

It's the first high end android device I would consider perfect in that you have no major flaws. You can use it for years and just stop caring. Fundamentally new devices wouldn't really matter for a long time

[warm wyvern]

Never had a Retroid handheld , i wanted to get their Flip2 but sort of wish Anbernic had released a handheld with a more optmized chip because i prefer their community and logistics over Retroid's

[warm wyvern]

You are right , it's a good long term investiment

[radiant meadow]

Unfortunately it's main issue with anbernic when it comes to their high end devices only t820 devices survived all that trouble

Expect sticks on rg556 and light bleed on rgcube

[hearty hound]

comunity?

[warm wyvern]

From that 'past' 406 line , the V and H were the only ones without issues on the release

[hearty hound]

u talking about ppls who scare to unlock bootloader and change settings?

is it realy worth?

[warm wyvern]

At least that's cool lol
Retroid's chat is literally cursed on every channel they're in 😂

[hearty hound]

i dont think its bad

[wide bison]

there's some random users there got called out because someone asking a simple question

[vocal loom]

Oh dude absolutely retroid chats get toxic lol

[radiant meadow]

Retroid chat is like phew if yk

Even reddit its long

[hearty hound]

Redtroid Syndicate

[hearty hound]

wonder how much score they get...
it easy can get 6000+- (7k Elite, 5k 8gen3)
With turnip it will be sick

[wintry lark]

ayaneo tab could be interesting assuming it has an sd card slot and active cooling

[hearty hound]

every has active

[wintry lark]

every tablet?

[hearty hound]

its not tablet, it ''console'' 😄

[still ocean]

OK I found a third issue, there's definitely a memory leak

and for some godforsaken reason, anbernic decided to use the entirely of the 12GB RAM for their ZRAM!!!

[wintry lark]

it just gets worse

[still ocean]

amateur hour

anyway, I think that will also be a source of performance issues, I'm going to supply my own swapfile based on disk and see how well that works

we really don't need zram on this device

[warm wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

[vocal loom]

Lmao turns out gamma loves broken shit more

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[hazy goblet]

lol, they really have to fire their software department, someone from it is sabotaging their devices

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/i-told-you-i-knew-it-i-fucking-knew-it-im-right-gif-17664058

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/vindication-brooklyn99-holt-gif-11799749

[radiant meadow]

Another problem

[dawn jay]

I felt it

[radiant meadow]

IT'S ALWAYS THEIR SOFTWARE

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-clairvoyant-seer-fortune-teller-psychic-beatrice-arthur-gif-15096907

[still ocean]

I'm playing about with it more tonight, then back to business as usual

[radiant meadow]

Bro they been sabotage since t618 days

[hearty hound]

3356*

[radiant meadow]

Well way back

[radiant meadow]

How did they even do that

Is it even possible to do that

[hearty hound]

u dont know what is zram?

[still ocean]

yeah you can set it to 100%, but that's really not a good idea, causes so much thrashing and waste of CPU

[radiant meadow]

I know vram but not zram

[hearty hound]

😄

[still ocean]

a little zram is fine, abouyt 30% maybe

[hearty hound]

i dont remember any case on adnroid when it realy helps

swap yes (root)

but zram ...

[radiant meadow]

Is it like compressed ram to create space or using some part of your ram as a swap device

[hearty hound]

kernel module for creating a compressed block device in RAM

[radiant meadow]

But why they do that tho

[hearty hound]

dumb as fuck

[radiant meadow]

If it is going to cause performance issues

[hearty hound]

it is

decrease performance and stability

if put full

[radiant meadow]

Sigh

So we got gpu broken high performance mode broken and now we got memory leak that cause this mess in the first place

In 250

[hearty hound]

300

seems like best deal ever

[radiant meadow]

Actually 328

On anbernic website

So razer edge is even better than rg557

[wintry lark]

i keep forgetting this thing already released 😂 you would think most of these issues would have been found out already

[radiant meadow]

Bro only 53 have sold yk

In ail express

[wintry lark]

yeah thats rough, not exactly a crowdpleaser is it lol

[hearty hound]

ofc

way better

[radiant meadow]

In fact it's mad that you had to just copy anbernic rg556 better sticks and better performance and software

That's it

Yet we got broken copy device

[still ocean]

I cobbled together some new drivers, works great and may help with issues in games (YMMV)

[vocal loom]

Gangster dude

[wintry lark]

🐐

[still ocean]

Performance is there, but MK8 is unstable. I'll try another game

[river parrot]

Gamma does what Anberdon't

[still ocean]

BOTW is still glitched out 😦

[hearty hound]

wait a minute ... Mali driver can be updated?

🤨

[hearty hound]

but seems like its not driver issue

try different fork (it can be compabillity issues)

[still ocean]

time for bed for me

mario 3d world and mario rpg run at 60fps, 1x handheld mode

just trying sonic superstars

yep same

https://tenor.com/view/wicked-my-job-here-is-wicked-gif-27021960

[hearty hound]

gn

[radiant meadow]

Good thing gamma fix it's showing d8300 real power performance 6x to 3.5x

When it comes to ps2 and gc

Bad news well bad news it's deja vu

Another broken device 💔

[dawn jay]

Let me know if you have any other patches, I'm going to start doing some showcase footage and I'll feature the latest scripts

Maybe I should keep reading before posting

[hearty hound]

gc broken

[rocky nebula]

give hyrule warriors a try in android cemu

optionally, every other Musou game since they all use the same engine and are made by Team Ninja

[hearty hound]

(based on 8 gen 2) but has better gpu and a bit weaker cpu
Also we know G3 Gen 3 will get 30% in CPU and 28% in GPU improve (=2730 7000) (5500gpu)

[hearty hound]

avg

[wary tiger]

Have not seen any g3x gen 2 device (even after adding thermal paste and whatnot) that can maintain like at least 95% stability in wildlife extreme with those top scores, think ayaneo recommend to drop the GPU to 8g2 level if want consistent performance, so the actual benefits over a 8g2 is kind of thin.

Not sure if the same going to apply for g3 gen 3 vs 8g3 again.

[long chasm]

They should hire Gamma

[radiant meadow]

Since day one

But you know

[long chasm]

It’s just shocking how bad this is

[radiant meadow]

It's funny but I always think that anbernic doesn't want to be close to community like that

Otherwise they would face worse than retroid

[long chasm]

I think it’s also cause of the language barrier they’re Chinese most of them far as ik

Idk I’m no expert

Just terrible as a company for doing this

[radiant meadow]

Yep and they are mostly blacklisted towards most creators

[long chasm]

Can’t have a go at em too much because they did make the beloved SP and 34xx

Shame on em lol

You got a steam deck @radiant meadow

[radiant meadow]

It's not their budget handhelds honestly they would make budget handhelds and they would beloved forever It's their high end devices that let them down

[radiant meadow]

Not yet

[long chasm]

Very true

The 406H looks perfect for GC

I’m not buying yet though because I have a feeling.. they’ll release a 407H

Don’t want to buy it now then boom new handheld announcement after setting up everything

You know what

I’ll say it in the main chat any ways

[radiant meadow]

I know it's d8300

[long chasm]

Yeah wanna be more patient wait for the better

I don’t want to settle with T820s

[radiant meadow]

Lmaoooo it's like people saying they didn't want to settle rp4pro d1100

[long chasm]

xD

I never liked the RP4 Pro design tbh

[radiant meadow]

Really I thought rp4pro was nice design like psp vibes

[dawn jay]

Anbernic is probably the most generous company when it comes to review units. I think you need to like... Deliberately lie about the product, probably multiple times, before they take you off the list

I dunked on the 35XX 2024 and they were like "cool, here are two SPs. See if these are better"

[radiant meadow]

Wow all you need to lie about their products and they will take your off the the list

[lapis moat]

I dont think you're getting his point. He's syaing its very hard to be taken off the list

[radiant meadow]

I understand his point

But it's like frustrating to see anbernic still lacking basic stuff when it comes to high end devices

[dawn jay]

They'll send units to people who aren't even on the review team anymore, as a logistics oversight. It makes me wonder about their margins compared to other companies that act like they're taking a loss sending one device for the entire RH team to swap around for multiple written and video reviews

[rocky nebula]

having an x86 handheld is kind of a requirement for upper end emulation these days. cemu, sudachi, rpcs3, xemu/xenia... they all need the hardware for max compatibility

[radiant meadow]

Mmmm

[rocky nebula]

they should send me units. i will willingly churn out 10min. gameplay vids.

[radiant meadow]

Oh you would make it special gameplay vids

[rocky nebula]

heck. i just yesterday posted that 28min. WiiU Hyrule Warriors vid for the 556

[vocal loom]

You're saying I just need to join RH for a day to get lifetime handhelds? Y'all need a janitor?

[radiant meadow]

I can cook as well

[long chasm]

Hire him Zu

[radiant meadow]

I appreciate anbernic to not be like a strict company but only thing I want anbernic to is do better when it comes to thier high end devices like how they did with t820 devices

[rocky nebula]

i feel the t820 was luck

[lapis moat]

Not to play devil's advocate for them, but technically this is their first try for high end.

[still ocean]

lol bricked my 557

RIP

[rocky nebula]

they just happened to pick a one-trick processor that runs hot by default and punches above its weight

[dawn jay]

your pay is zero dollars and stray Anbernic devices

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsie-oops-oops-sorry-gif-8365536587490118065

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[still ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgKAFK5djSk

Will need to work out an unbricker 😄
Luckily I backed it all up

[dawn jay]

imagine the first person to use the 3266

[still ocean]

for now, adios

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[radiant meadow]

Byeeee

[rocky nebula]

lol hardkernel and their "build your own retro-handheld" OGA kit that is still sold

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flame-look-what-i-have-created-shout-gif-17812125

[radiant meadow]

Actually you are not wrong this is like their second expensive handheld after win600

[rocky nebula]

win600 is strangely still chugging in the arms of 3rd party sellers

it badly needs a refresh... at least something (cheap) that can do Darktide with light framegen like the i5-1135/1145 or something. both can lock 40fps.

[radiant meadow]

I can say yes absolutely but the answer is no until they can get arm that it's efficient when it comes to battery and power I doubt any andorid based would make x86 handhelds again

[warm wyvern]

Also the 552

[radiant meadow]

How much was the 552

[rocky nebula]

200+ at launch

now 129usd.

rk3399 got outclassed by the t618, s922x, a311d, t610, g99, and now the a527 devices.... its basically shriveling into vaporware

[long chasm]

Lmfaooo

[radiant meadow]

I still right tho anbernic rg557 still second but damn 200+ damn

[long chasm]

Hmm

It was £306 before then £260

Now it’s £250

I see this one for £222

[radiant meadow]

Maybe I'm wrong then

[dawn jay]

I'm still annoyed we didn't get widespread acceptance of the 3588

[dawn jay]

I had a Kinhank android box that ran it and it was awesome

[long chasm]

Android boxes are cool

[rocky nebula]

you can thank russia and ukraine using the soc to make ai-powered flying grenades

[radiant meadow]

I'm still surprised of that

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/motivation-you-can-do-it-gif-22373129

[rocky nebula]

those kind of stopped the whole appreciation of rk3588

[radiant meadow]

Anbernic and rk3588 go together ❤️

Option to do linux and andorid

[rocky nebula]

4chan posted some very interesting vids of those things roaming the wasteland. there was a famous one of a guy hitting one with a sack of potatoes before it went off

[warm wyvern]

For the time it was expensive and also what it could do. We really wanted GC emulation when they released that 😂

[radiant meadow]

Oh yh

Thennn ayn came to the scene and say hello oooooooo we can do ps2 and gc

The rest was history

[warm wyvern]

We got Putin and Zelensky using it before we got a compact soap bar handheld 😂

[dawn jay]

the 3588 box video was the one I did during a tornado warning and I had to stop filming halfway through

[rocky nebula]

the rg552 fed people mediocre gamecube

[radiant meadow]

It's crazy that powkiddy x18 got released before rg552 yet I think less expensive than rg552

[rocky nebula]

oh x18s... so much potential ruined by a based ceo. "fix this almost-good clamshell? NO LET'S MAKE MORE rk3566 and rk3326 handhelds!!!"

[radiant meadow]

Which it was crazy

[warm wyvern]

The chip is cursed

[dawn jay]

https://youtu.be/DctXovK0uQs?si=hmfcmVjtfCaUK5FN&t=622

[rocky nebula]

they had someone ask me what i would fix on it, and I was like "soften the shoulder edges, and stiffen the dpad and facebutton membranes." Calten said the engineers could easily do that. One week later, dead

[radiant meadow]

Before we got cowboy zu

[warm wyvern]

It was powkiddy from all companies who pushed the window for GC and a clamshell.
It's a shame it was rough on the edges.

[dawn jay]

the tornado changed me

[radiant meadow]

Man it's annoying that it been two years since they released their high end device

[warm wyvern]

Cowboy Zu is the best skin
I need to unlock the Aussie Zu for Fortnite

[rocky nebula]

no no... make him MORE Canadian

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-hat-hat-10-gallon-hat-40-gallon-hat-cowboy-gif-16452522011518977114

[dawn jay]

Paid DLC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1253415246509375559/1327748131869298818/O74RUQLM.gif

[rocky nebula]

more red, more royalty

[wanton flower]

I had a 3588 handheld once. That was a mistake.

[stark cape]

The GameForce Ace?

[rocky nebula]

that was Gao's fault

made -cheaply built- handheld, sold at a loss, announced his bankruptcy as an april fools gotcha, then vanished

[radiant meadow]

That one doesn't exist

In my eyes

https://tenor.com/view/ai-art-art-ai-thats-bait-mad-max-gif-27638600

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-declare-bankruptcy-gif-3547985

Sorry, never not funny

[warm wyvern]

Didn't pay much attention to them , i remember their GBA like handheld
I didn't like the logo on the screen but thought they would fine tune their designs along the way
Damn , didn't know they went under

[rocky nebula]

he's not much far from niluanxy and the ktr1. both built their handhelds to fall apart on arrival

[dawn jay]

brb, taking out a mortgage on my house to fix the screen in my handheld

[still ocean]

bruh the screen was there all along, I don't think a mortgage is needed

[radiant meadow]

Ktr1 is just sad

[true hedge]

Um......did you unbrick it?

[dawn jay]

I saw something where people were complaining about the terms of their mortgage and someone had to explain what mortgage translates to

[warm wyvern]

I think the CEO bro was guilty tripping people with that lol

[dawn jay]

death pledge

[radiant meadow]

It's mad because taking out from their mortgage when they could use 3'92 screen in the first place

Sorry it's even crazy when we found out

[rocky nebula]

shelter and food? nah... handhelds

[radiant meadow]

That it was 3'92 screen

[warm wyvern]

All they had to do was putting the SD865 on the 2S handheld , no more , no less lol

[radiant meadow]

It's like Jim Ryan asking studio to make live services

I don't know who made this decision

[radiant meadow]

You know what now even thinking about it they would make sequal to 2s

Use G1 Gen 2

[warm wyvern]

Yep , they short their own foot and then worked on the damage control that sort of backfired because they lied , then came the guilty tripping damage control lol

[ruby skiff]

it was fun times 😄

[warm wyvern]

Oh yes , lots of timeouts on that chat 😄

[hearty hound]

yikes

revived?

im start thinking that G2 Gen 2 is 7+ Gen 3 base ''bc wifi the same generation'' (ofc it will be stronger in GPU, bc it custom) - that closest possible chassis (they change CPU core configuration)

its not bad, but its a bit not Gen 2, unless they heavy boost frequencies on gpu ''its possible'' (it stronger than 8300 even at base) Turnip exist
And if you calculate the approximate cost, it can fit into $220 (Pocket 6 Era)

[hearty hound]

Xiaomi Pad 7 (7+ gen 3)

[warm wyvern]

Their CEO said they would release around 8 handhelds this year.
Do you guys think they will do like the 552 and try another chip for the other releases or will fine tune this one ?
I really want to see a 407V tbh

[hearty hound]

I don't know about you, but this release pretty much buried Anbernic for me.
(and knowing this weak team, they won't try to fix the situation.)) unlucky

[warm wyvern]

Not really because it's not their first time doing that and the other options we have also had their rocky releases

The 406V /H are pretty good imo If they just released them with a more powerful / optimized chip that was it. I don't even demand the screen to be OLED or anything, just a bit more performance

[hearty hound]

that trash? (what exact model u talking about)

price/fully broken firmware really?

[ruby skiff]

yeah they're unlikely to do any finetuning

[radiant meadow]

Also it's worse that if you are in US or eu you are paying more than you would pay for odin 2

In their website

[wintry lark]

Well technically you can't even get an odin 2 in the US right now, at least not directly from ayn

[radiant meadow]

Oh yhhhh

But still ebay tho

What about retroid

Anyway it's not 2022 or 2023 anymore people basically don't want an expensive handheld that have broken firmware

Unfortunately rg557 is an example of that

[ruby skiff]

yep 😄 better devices for the money exist

[long chasm]

As much as I want it to happen I dont see it happening

552 that is, 407H/V deffo I think

Also niceto see you scar @ruby skiff 😄

[tribal brook]

Despite what anyone says... I still love my rg552. The best, with the most support Linux console with 100% support for postmaster. After getting Ayn Odin 2 pro and recently AyaNeo Pocket Evo (love them both) I still mess around with the rg552. Waiting for Anbernic to release a 16:9, 5inch or more, HD horizontal console with Linux support.

[ruby skiff]

I still have my 552

[hearty hound]

wow, PS2 carbon less demading O_o (lowest area 23) 5.1.25

[fickle belfry]

Was confused for a moment on why we'd be running postmaster on a handheld.

[hearty hound]

portmaster is for handhelds

[fickle belfry]

Yeah, but not postmaster.

[hearty hound]

ouch

i though that misspelled word

[fickle belfry]

"I still love my rg552. The best, with the most support Linux console with 100% support for postmaster. " 🙃

Postmaster is a thing you might run on Linux, though.

[tribal brook]

...Portmaster...

[hearty hound]

wow ... zAebo now can be emulated on android and linux

btw (7rd gen )

[fickle belfry]

Obscure ... unless Mexico or Brazil.

[hearty hound]

trash console, but until it can be emulated (BREW)😄

emulator Melange up to date, and older infuse (2024)

[tribal meadow]

Nah, it's obscure there too.

[oak stirrup]

we can play resident evil 4 on this

[hearty hound]

yup

[alpine bronze]

How long do you guys think it'll take before people fix the Turbo/High Power mode issues and custom drivers are made and stable?

Few months?

[hearty hound]

custom driver for mali?

[alpine bronze]

Yeah? It's been done before

[hearty hound]

turnip never be on mali

it unreal to do normal, source closed

Mr.Purple tried and eh it just a bit better than stock and not worth to waste that much time

[river parrot]

none of the drivers that do exist have any real impact on performance

[signal cedar]

First OTA update is coming around May 6th apparently

[radiant meadow]

👀

OTA Update

https://tenor.com/view/killer-whales-sink-or-swim-make-it-or-break-it-scaramucci-do-or-die-gif-6376697935938120830

[ruby skiff]

I'll believe they'll fix shit when I see it 😄

[uncut storm]

I really hope it's a serious attempt...

[ruby skiff]

its anbernic so i am skeptical 😛

[oak kernel]

that apparently is for the OTA update or the date?

[hollow terrace]

anyone have issues with running Netflix on RG557? I get the "This app is not compatible with your device. You can download a compatible version from the Netflix website." error

[long chasm]

That may be fixed in the ota , they had that in 556 n fixed that

It’s the device end

[signal cedar]

the date

Hopefully addresses some of the pain points here, we'll see! 😄

[fickle belfry]

It'll tweak some setting no one cares about like the RG556 update did.

[ruby skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-chris-stewie-negative-so-negative-gif-27521015

[radiant meadow]

Well if it's not the performance issues or fix the ram issue then they can go back to drawing board oh well

[radiant meadow]

It's hopeless

[ruby skiff]

haha 😄

[radiant meadow]

No wasteland on Rg557

[rocky nebula]

honestly, i would just make two adb macros into buttons on the main interface. one for max performance, and one for full-spectrum. Skip the entire "let's wait for anbernic to fix it" mantra.

for a modern android handheld, it has a lot of odroid energy, aka users have to do everything if they want QoL.

[hearty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0714gpAfPjo O_o

how is it possible, some days ago it run 15-20 fps
and that even on android lol, not Rocknix
8s gen 3 (cpu = 8gen2 in singlecore/multy weaker, gpu weaker ''a bit stronger than 7+gen3'')

rpcsx speedrun developing?
Anyone maybe understand/know, what main CPU or GPU power in this emulation (heavy scenes CPU ofc)

[rocky nebula]

This is a question for #🕹│rh-general, not #1359106082781266044

https://youtu.be/fOJcW5oW4Vk?si=vraKCDPon-mbvCNd

Now for real reviewer beef from the guy who will literally review anything

Hmmmm: his entire review is positive. No weird slowdowns or glitches across the board.

[golden rapids]

Can't even imagine, that hardware like this can slowdown

[rocky nebula]

Wicked also just kind of starts from 8bit/mame and moves up playing everything at stock unless he's especially curious about something (like god of war at 8x res or f-zero at 2x)

[still ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-gif-19410752

[hearty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/god-bless-snoop-dogg-gif-8059454

[rocky nebula]

Paperweight upgrade tool

[spiral sonnet]

Hah don't get too excited

It's a ps2 remaster so it'll be inherently on the lighter end of the ps3 spectrum

Might as well just play the ps2 game at 3x resolution (with an hd texture pack even), it'll look just as good and run better

[hearty hound]

oh realy 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Mgup67VEo

better?

[spiral sonnet]

Screen flickering is probably a driver thing no?

God of war 3 is one of the heavier games, I'm guessing there's speedhacks involved here

[hearty hound]

this is the fastest emulator in the history of kernel development on arm

[spiral sonnet]

But anyhow for PS3 on android I'd recommend sticking to lighter games

Afterburner climax, castlevania lords of shadow, wipeout hd etc

[hearty hound]

sadly ppls with odin 2 not out of step with the times

with rocknix performance even better ... (Literally every update to the emulator, a new video can be written, and there will be a noticeable improvement all over the place)

[spiral sonnet]

Castle crashers, hard corps

And some games that i'd recommend running on winlator instead (i.e. blur, late blackbox-era nfs games, other multiplats)

[hearty hound]

winlator already lose to gamehub

less stability and performance

btw today i was shocked when see how 8s gen 3 can perform now (latest emu/stock/custom turnip drivers), Even elite cant before like that ... noticeable improvements too every update

[hearty hound]

yup driver compatibility

probably 8 gen 3 with Turnip will outperform it, noone try seems like

@spiral sonnet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD5CzXo7IeY btw
Poco f6 (even Elite cant perform like that, when it just out)

[bitter kindle]

official link to try it, please 🙂

[hearty hound]

https://gamehub.xiaoji.com/

[bitter kindle]

is it chinese?

[hearty hound]

yup

they do everything better ;D not be surprised if they making atm shadps4 clone already for arm ... (it easy, bc ps4 almost is pc)

[wintry lark]

Shadps4 barely works on pc 😭

It's in the beginning of the beginning stages

[hearty hound]

huh?

it works good

u can play almost every exclusive game on decent pc

if good pc with graphic mods 😄

btw peoples now use it on steam deck

you look like you're gonna miss out on the latest builds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPY1ECNNhx0

[wintry lark]

https://shadps4.net/compatibility/

I already dabbled with bloodborne a few months ago for the most part it was stable but I still remember getting crashes

Depending on what fix I used it also resulted in graphical issues

[hearty hound]

yup

beta bulds latest most sweet, even 0.8.1 has allot improvements

[velvet helm]

@signal cedar @cunning plaza @dawn jay Sorry for @ing all three of you but two questions. 1) Is the RG557 Dockable 2) Does the RG557 have Gyroscope support?

[rocky nebula]

good questions. you could not dock the 556 and power it at the same time

[hearty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qvpC_aaKbs

i hope Shad port it, +- year (arm hardware more than enough)
8 gen 3, 8 Elite, maybee 8 gen 2 can be enough (im not sure how much power will be wasted bc of emulation)

[velvet helm]

Which cases.

What test software are you using here I like the interface.

[hearty hound]

Scene

http://vtools.omarea.com/#/

[velvet helm]

I wanna turn this into a Wii Handheld so I want to know.

[hearty hound]

hope somone will try run it on 8 Elite with gamehub (2 containers ) yes, it works

[lapis moat]

Can't remember if it was russ or stubbs but it was already confirmed this one can.

[rocky nebula]

oh that's great.

i know my gpd xp plus was capable of that before i sold it. played a lot of Sky - Children of Light on the couch

Wicked's video actually makes me want to get a 557 now. He does have a pretty firm point. all systems work at stock resolution. I bet you can even get 100% accurate software-mode emulation out of nethersx2 with none of the hw-acceleration glitches. aka, Killzone won't crash lol

[dawn jay]

Gyroscope yes. I thrashed it around during Mario Odyssey and it worked

Not sure on docking

[velvet helm]

Honestly I don't know why people are bitching and crying about Wii U Emulation. First off Wii U Emulation for Android isn't even a year old yet. It took Citra at least 2 years on Android to be relatively decent. Also the Wii U had like two games on it, and the Library wasn't as expansive as the PS2 or Wii for example. Also there's only 5 games I want to play on Switch anyway. If I really cared about Wii U and Switch Emulation I have my Loki Mini Pro. The glass is always half empty when judging Handhelds in this community.

[rocky nebula]

wii u.... 2 games? heh. you're in the "i never played wii u, so i have no idea what was good" crowd.

off the top of my head, Mario Kart 8, tekken tag tournament 2, Breath of the Wild OG, Splatoon 1, Zombi U, and TankTankTank... pretty sure Ninja Gaiden 3 and Shakedown Hawaii are top 50 at the very least.

i hope you have a replacement battery for your loki mini pro, dude. those lipos only last like 2 years. simple operation, if you don't want the pillow to pop your screen out or crack the case

[velvet helm]

I've owned and played on a Wii U. I was being hyperbolic.

[velvet helm]

I officially own two batteries for the Loki Mini Pro.

[signal cedar]

Looks like the RG557 has finally hit AliExpress, including US warehouses! It's a bit of a mixed bag, but prices are looking much better than they have been for this one.

Use code IFPJWPU for $35 off

https://rh-go.link/RG557_AE

https://rh-go.link/RG557-FS_AE (free shipping)

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

Yeah...

That's gonna be a no from me

[vocal loom]

I think with the code that would be what like 230 with free ship? That's still a little rough but I couuuulllldddddd see someone biting, just not recommended

[lapis moat]

I bit 🫡

[vocal loom]

GLHF

[long chasm]

I’m also biting on payday

[ruby skiff]

£280ish is just a big ask right now 😄 curious to see what that OTA will do

[uncut storm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/1kdkbmo/huge_flycast_improvements_never_seen_on_dc/

"YES! I know, it's FINALLY possible! Dreamcast's Per Pixel sorting mode, the most accurate and required for many games to render exacly as it should, has never worked properly on MALI GPUs in any Dreamcast emulator."

[orchid beacon]

So it’s possible to play games on dcnet using a handheld? With flycast

[velvet helm]

My Tax Money is coming soon I might buy this. Plus $250 - $35 It's a good price for 256GB of Storage and the D8300.

[thick sail]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-broken-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-gif-12803884

[neon cypress]

Wanted the transparent purple but the glossy dpad just feels like I'll regret not going with matte white.

[lapis moat]

Idk changing the whole body color choice just for the dpad seems a little excessive

Never had a problem with the black one on my 556

[neon cypress]

You're not wrong but personal preference 🫠

[lapis moat]

Do your thing

[molten marsh]

I hate glossy d pads

it'd genuinely be a deal breaker for me if one colour had a matte one and another had a glossy one

[wanton flower]

If you’re brave I’m sure a scotch brite pad can fix the dpad being glossy

[neon cypress]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't wanna go full rebellion.

[rocky nebula]

we're still on the the primary flaw being "glossiness bad" huh.

[molten marsh]

I'm weird, I don't care about glossy face buttons, but a glossy dpad is 100% a deal breaker for me

I can't stand playing platformers on my steam deck entirely because of it

[lapis moat]

Just for today. The cycle goes "chip bad" > "glossiness bad" > "pwm bad" > "sticks bad", in that order. Can't disrupt the flow

[warm wyvern]

If i was going to get one it would be the transparent purple 100% , those black bezels on the white model are a deal breaker for me

[signal cedar]

The white has the same glossy dpad

Just in White instead of black

[neon cypress]

Decided to cancel my order to sit back and wait for more coverage on this device to surface, oops. Regardless, thanks for the AliExpress link and promo code 🤘

[hearty hound]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

wait price drop + firmware fix
if need it

[signal cedar]

Yeah let's see what this OTA brings us

[long chasm]

You can get one now for £220

[rocky nebula]

i would get one just to do a ton of benchmarks on, but i have too many handhelds.

definitely will keep my OGS, rg405v, and E6Plus. probably will sell my e6max and r36s in the near future.

[lapis moat]

I got one mostly because I'm more or less happy with how it exists right now, and I have the throwaround cash atm to not deal with waiting. Fully admit it's not the most frugal pick and def don't advise others to follow suit tho.

[rocky nebula]

the big selling point would be if Kingdoms of Amalur and Dragon's Dogma run well. t820 was completely cpu-bottlenecked at ~18-24fps

HMMMM... runs well but crashes before the chimera fight. I know for sure sudachi and uzuy are pretty stable and can make it to the hydra fight.
https://youtu.be/XzJNkfEoAls

TOTK actually -runs- which is interesting. It doesn't run WELL(needs 540p) due to the thermal cap, but that's a good sign for high level emulation.
https://youtu.be/C1vOd6DDTzA?t=647

[warm wyvern]

Odd that TOTK "runs" because Breath Of The Wild is a bit easier to emulate and the D8300 can't run it

[thorn garden]

Totk is more optimized

[hearty hound]

totk dont work perfect even on switch

until u overclock it (fps drop, freezs, etc will gone)

when botw can run perfect even on rp5 (when for totk u need at least 8+ gen 1 (but Eden will decrese it), and it wont be perfect stability) game not heavy, it just broken 🙂 (bad optimized, with ram issues)

[rocky nebula]

Have you tried the wiiU version of botw?

[warm wyvern]

No , i don't have a D8300 phone
I wonder if BOTW would work better there too

[rocky nebula]

i mean, it's so unstable on ARM, its best used as a benchmark than anything.

A good 7th gen game that is both playable and a good benchmark is torchlight 2, since it isn't perfect on anything but pc, even the Odin 2, but is still playable at even low 20's fps

[hearty hound]

botw dont work at all on Mali (like 10fps), totk performance on it unbelievable, and noone know why this happened

[swift lava]

Fuck that cell engine man

[swift lava]

Wdym

Panfrost and panthor won't work because they develop for the wrong kernel

They said they could port it

But development probably is restricted to linux

Wonder if rooted android would let them cook

[rocky nebula]

Actually, EggNS will run BOTW on mali gpus

It's fine now that yuzu is dead and nobody can gripe at you for supporting "stolen" plagiarized&repurposed code. It's one of those things that made people mad about the Pimax Portal, since it comes shipped with a working copy of EggNS that's ready to go with BOTW

[swift lava]

It's stolen because it violates the license

That's why it's Scummy with a capital S

And paid

What does it want these days

[rocky nebula]

it's easier to say 'mali can't play botw' than 'i don't want to rely on eggns to play botw' though, isn't it?

[hearty hound]

same us other work which make possible witcher 3?)

It's profitable to believe in bullshit, egg ''developers'' are just dumb-ass crooks.

Their entire emulator is made up of enthusiasts codes

[fickle belfry]

If you're in the USA, you can buy the RG557 from Anbernic's own web site at the moment. But you can only buy the one with microSD card included. With shipping it comes to $310.

You can also add a tip to show Anbernic that you think they're doing a good job.

[hearty hound]

negative tip

[fickle belfry]

It will let me enter a negative sign, but if I try to add it, it says "Enter a tip less than $279.99". Well, I did ... -$100.00 is less than $279.99

[swift lava]

If VORTEK was open source we couldve had a happy day

[swift lava]

No no

They do work

If their emulator was made of enthusiasts code completely it would have been replicated already

They're hard at work

[lapis moat]

It's available on Ali from US warehouse as well. Got mine for 235 out the door with the code stubbs provided

[tight steeple]

https://youtu.be/7w6_O9zLb2o?si=xPcE2LPG0zozOZd1

[rocky nebula]

gj anbernic

[tight steeple]

They definitely saw russ‘ video

[radiant meadow]

Oh

[desert lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-hmm-gif-2748512355730790146

[rocky nebula]

but can it render this puppy?

[radiant meadow]

So it's like ayaneo pocket air

Mm

Very interesting

But what about the ram issue

[rocky nebula]

is there a ram issue?

[radiant meadow]

According to Dj Khaled we got memory leak

[radiant meadow]

Could explain why performance is not as good

[rocky nebula]

all a memory leak will do is slow down the system over time. basic users that already experience that with phones will just reset the device.

[radiant meadow]

But it's crazy that anbernic did that tho

Doesn't make sense to me

Nothing make sense when it comes to anbernic

[rocky nebula]

you don't "do" a memory leak. it's usually just bad software or driver implementation

[radiant meadow]

Mmm

https://tenor.com/view/reflexiones-pensando-pensar-esperando-memes-gif-17106956298339806520

[rocky nebula]

also, this is something that is a persistent thread in xda forums. sometimes basic android apps(CHROME) simply refuse to release memory. this stacks up over time and either you use a memory release app to clear out the trash or you reset your slow phone(when every app crashes on load)

it may be a non-issue. it may not be. Even windows programs have that issue. normally it's solved with VM.

setting zram to 12gb though... that's a different thing. one might say that is downright moronic

[radiant meadow]

😭

[rocky nebula]

but the big question is 'does the basic user even know what zram is?' will it bother them that there's a 12gb garbage buffer in the background eating a few megabytes every time they close an app?

probably bothers OCD technical people, but largely it's a non issue

[radiant meadow]

Good thing is anbernic included a mode that boost the performance

But we know we can push it

[wary tiger]

Are they fixing it properly (allow the cpu/GPU to ramp up and down to meet demand) or they will just introduce a permanent max clock mode?

And why mmjr2👀

[velvet helm]

I was just about to share this!!! 🤩

[hazy solstice]

https://youtu.be/r9ZUZ4ajd2w

[long chasm]

Is that with the OTA update applied

[spiral sonnet]

Hahah I'm running CachyOS and for some reason it defaulted to using all 32gb of my ram for zram

[hearty hound]

hmmm, they fixed governors

already insane for anbernic 😄
Now wait price at max 220-230, and good to buy who want

[hearty hound]

maybe that glitch?

[radiant meadow]

At least they tried lmaooo🤣🤣🤣

[still ocean]

Ahhhh. So I definitely noticed some performance issues with too much zram in the past, compound that with a memory leak and baby you got a stew going on

https://tenor.com/view/carl-weathers-stew-gif-15364320

[hearty hound]

u revived urs?

[radiant meadow]

Nope

[true hedge]

Just gonna leave this here. https://youtu.be/r9ZUZ4ajd2w

[still ocean]

nah it's dead, RIP

[hearty hound]

u kidding ...

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-gif-6823241795540399689

[hazy solstice]

Should've scrolled up lmfao

[true hedge]

Oh snap lmao

Sorry didn't see that.

[true hedge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hazy solstice]

[orchid beacon]

That mean 557 dead now too

[true hedge]

They dropped the update right after my video went live.

[long chasm]

Darn

[hearty hound]

let's not forget how fucked up we are

[long chasm]

Don’t know that

[radiant meadow]

😭😭😭😭

Maybe next time

[hearty hound]

rg557 PRO for 300$

[radiant meadow]

🤣🤣🤣

Once again their 16:9 devices has failed once again

[long chasm]

If I have to I’ll buy him another RG557 to brick lol

[orchid beacon]

Is the consensus that this device is good and can play upto and including switch but the software side is shite and making it perform a lot worse?

[long chasm]

Yeah but also little bottleneck from hardware

CPU or gpu I forget which

[hearty hound]

bottleneck in drivers (8300 powerful gpu and powerful cpu) gpu = 7+gen3, cpu 7+gen3 > 8300 > 8+ gen 1 in multicore and 888+ in singlecore

not hardware bottleneck at all

[lapis moat]

The main issue was the cpu's not being utilized fully by the governor but that is now fixed

[wintry lark]

I need this

Those magnificent full size joysticks

[hearty hound]

me too, im waiting this product and dont understand happy fooled guys :/

[orchid beacon]

Are there still other issues or should it all be resolved now?

[lapis moat]

I mean the other issues like driver incompatibility still exist that's just a Mediatek thing that cant be fixed with an OTA but that was less of a self handicap than just self limiting the power the chip already had

[orchid beacon]

Take it the pwm flicker won’t be going anywhere too, that’s just the panel

[vocal loom]

556 was not a failure at all

[radiant meadow]

Expect one

Shout out to rg556

[warm wyvern]

They missed such a great opportunity with this handheld.

[hearty hound]

well its not biggest issue in that console ...

pannel easy to swap

its not unique ''special for this model''

just cheap old amoled screen

there 2 ways, get top ips or try to find up-date amoled

[pale marlin]

I have no idea how many people are pwm sensitive but I've never been affected by it at all, no headaches, nothing. No idea how common it is. Though I have seen one or two pwm comments over the years and the people who hate it seem to really hate it

[hearty hound]

u didnt see real high pwm probably

like on old samsung phones

they are worst in words, until s24

[pale marlin]

Well, I had the 556 which everyone is now saying has severe pwm - also had a galaxy s7, s8, s9

[hearty hound]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0KSIP-tslAA

[hearty hound]

im not sure, but seems like 556 has better amoled screen

need to check

so it probably another huge downgrade

[pale marlin]

Are they not the same panel? Got a lot of reports that they seem to be the same panel

[hearty hound]

send me report

because the tests say otherwise

[pale marlin]

I mean, that's what the general consensus seems to be from people who make videos it seems

[pale marlin]

Oh? Which tests are these?

[hearty hound]

measurements screen ripple factor from the сhinese on the bilibili

[pale marlin]

Interesting! Got a link?

[hearty hound]

dont save link, but probably its on top now

[pale marlin]

If that's real you should paste the link here you know, I bet a lot of people will be interested

[hearty hound]

ill try to find it again -_-

https://youtu.be/cEsA-NMPCRM?t=899 @pale marlin

cant find measurements but here good example, its downgrade.

557 has lower hz panel
and colors, it's not a warm/cold profile but a covered color space display, the panel is worse in all parameters you get

[lapis moat]

Russ is literally saying out loud in that exact clip that the color profile is better on the 557

why are we still paying attention to this kid