RG557

[vocal loom]

If it's small caps but good range then ehh

[river parrot]

There's barely any space around the radius for a cap. You can't use Switch ones since the default cap is smaller which means Vita ones, but it's so recessed those might not work either.

[signal cedar]

lets try vita

[vocal loom]

Like us the range comparable to retroid sticks? That plus no snap matters more than cap size to me

[zealous ridge]

can't you just pull them off and put like rg406h ones onto this?

[river parrot]

In my opinion, no. The Retroid ones are better.

[river parrot]

Nope

[zealous ridge]

wtf why?

[warm wyvern]

For the higher end stuff like Wiiu / Stitch/ Winlator how does it behave without drivers ?
I know you've only got it for 10 minutes but thought i'd ask 😂

[zealous ridge]

Switch should work well enough, given how even the RP4pro could run some (just worse than on the SD SoC)

[vocal loom]

Interesting, would be interested int trying em out now

[zealous ridge]

but Cemu

[river parrot]

They're completely different sticks and the ones on the 557 don't appear to be removeable.

[narrow eagle]

theyre different types of sticks

[crystal sparrow]

I believe the reason for the low cap is to avoid bumping the sticks when pressing the ABXY buttons in a natural holding position

[signal cedar]

oh wow they included Wii-U with games pre-setup on the sd card

geez

[narrow eagle]

but that isnt an issue with the 556…..

[zealous ridge]

ehhh, that sucks

[narrow eagle]

i think they just fuckin
over thought the stickd

[river parrot]

They literally had decent sticks... lol

[warm wyvern]

It's the overall Poco X6 Pro performance.
No DK Tropical Freeze which is a shame because the screen looks good

[river parrot]

The 406H

[narrow eagle]

its okay the 407M will have bettet sticks trustttt

[warm wyvern]

Based

[zealous ridge]

did they also include an emulator that works on that SoC?

[narrow eagle]

but i dont want wii u games

☹️

[tribal meadow]

How small of stick caps are we talking? Smaller than generic switch ones?

[zealous ridge]

I mean, that's my phone, so yeah

[narrow eagle]

ayaneo micro

[zealous ridge]

yep, that's what they complain about

[tribal meadow]

I see, thanks. Personally I could live with that, more curious about the d-pad though.

[warm wyvern]

They did 50% of the job , the rest is on us so we can grow and learn. 😅

[narrow eagle]

same as the 556…

which means its peak…

[tribal meadow]

Someone told me it felt different on an engineering unit... I believe it was Forthenext?

[narrow eagle]

unrelated anyone else like
kinda worn down their 556 dpad

[zealous ridge]

I'm honestly not too interested in this device, given how it's kinda in the same size category as the Odin2 Portal for me

[tribal meadow]

Yep, that was him. #1359106082781266044 message

[zealous ridge]

but it would be fun if they included a Wii U emulator that works on the SoC

because I certainly can't get any game I tried to run

just black screen and back to CEMU

maybe I should try an older version and 1.7 is just fucked right now

[warm wyvern]

Me neither , i want an SD device this year , but it's nice to talk about them.
Devs can do a bit to modify an emulator but there's only so much you can do

[solid timber]

the Core of coming RG557!
MTK 8300 tested!
I have tested pretty much every single phone from Mainland China, yet I have only had like 1 phone with the MTK dimensity 8300, which is the Redmi K70e, and I guess it might like that for other reigion too, so I re-edited my OG footage of the EMU test part.
I have tested pretty much every single phone from Mainland China, yet I have only had like 1 phone with the MTK dimensity 8300, which is the Redmi K70e, and I guess it might like that for other reigion too, so I re-edited my OG footage of the EMU test part.
hope it is helpful to a extend on how good the MTK 8300 is
Cheers
Lee
https://youtu.be/yKV5nHF-qwI

[zealous ridge]

I mean I have enough SD alternatives
from the RP5, Odin 2 Portal to the Poco F3,5 and 6

[signal cedar]

Dpad feels nice, mushy, passed all my tests

joysticks I like honestly, just smaller than I would expect for the shell size 😄

it looks very funny visually

[wintry lark]

Can it play mh4u at 4x

[river parrot]

D-pad is excellent

[zealous ridge]

doesn't looks thaaaat bad

[timid elk]

They do look a bit weird lol

Probably fine to use though I'm sure

[wintry lark]

It's still ugly imo, but I could probably get used to it

[timid elk]

But tiny little nipples

[timid elk]

Could definitely get some bigger sticks to toss in there I'm sure

[oak kernel]

yeah that joystick does look small

[zealous ridge]

I would ask Stubbs to open it up and see if he can replace the sticks, but the screws are gonna defeat him

[signal cedar]

Nah I can open this up, still cant find a screwdriver that is happy with the flip 2

[timid elk]

I mean these should be the sticks you can just pop off right?

[zealous ridge]

nope

[tribal meadow]

Are the stick caps removable? I'm guessing not.

[wintry lark]

Flip 2 teardown doesn't sound fun

[signal cedar]

They are not popping off no

557 uses torx

[vocal loom]

So hot my god

[timid elk]

That's WEIRD why'd they change that

[tribal meadow]

Cool, I actually like that. One less failure point.

[zealous ridge]

which honestly isn't an odd decision for a handheld, incredibly annoying how easy you can tear them off like the 406h

[crystal sparrow]

People want recessed sticks for portability, there you have it

[wintry lark]

Bad decision honestly

[timid elk]

Is this some fully new stick technology then? Or are they basically the same as the 406 sticks just with the caps clamped down on it

[signal cedar]

Feels new

Maybe modified 406h yeah

[tribal meadow]

I get why they went with colored labels, stick lights, but man that would have looked so much nicer with grey labels.

[timid elk]

Interesting

[vocal loom]

That white is beautiful

[wary tiger]

How does the sticks feel compared to the ones on magicx zero 28 (which are similar to retroid/Ayn 's but maybe smaller cap/more recessed ) ?

[tight cape]

so basically normal sized sticks for the rest of us with normal hands

[signal cedar]

love the white, purple be glossy

[crystal sparrow]

Until you turn on the screen and see the big black bezels

[zealous ridge]

better than bezzeling up white tho

[vocal loom]

I never cared about bezels I gotta be honest

[solid timber]

@signal cedar they arrived already ?

that is like fast lol

[crystal sparrow]

Yeah, when you're playing games, you won't even notice it, but in photography, it won't look as good

[tight cape]

ngl that glossy purple looks intriguing

can we see more pics of that one?

[narrow eagle]

okay thank god for these pictures these look way better than yall were suggesting

[narrow eagle]

oh wow that purple is purpling

[zealous ridge]

I'm curious how high they will price this, arguably it has no shot against the Portal and the RP5 has a few advantages too, but if they can beat both on price

[wintry lark]

We need a transparent green colorway ngl

[tribal meadow]

I'm guessing $240.

[snow kestrel]

Woa

Id say sub 200

[zealous ridge]

nah, that's too high, you can get a Poco X6 Pro for less and fully taxed in Europe

[narrow eagle]

i mean after tariff

[zealous ridge]

$209 max

[snow kestrel]

Like RP5 is what. $230 now. Cheaper on sale. Chip has way more compatibility with emulators

[wary tiger]

Maybe 249 with 10 dollars 48 hours discount, excluding shipping

[tight cape]

180 bald eagle american dollars

[zealous ridge]

I mean $249 would already be pushing it

[crystal sparrow]

Yeah, the caps look like they're about the same size as Portal in that shot, just a bit thinner and lower. It doesn't seem weird to me

[wary tiger]

It will drop to 229 or lower after 2-3 months

[zealous ridge]

still shooting to high IMO

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

[snow kestrel]

Just have zero desire paying RP5 prices for dinky sticks and worse compat

[wintry lark]

The Chad Cardinal Snapping vs the Virgin 928p

[zealous ridge]

I think somewhere between $189-219 is realistic

[solid timber]

rp5 is s865 rite?

[wary tiger]

Need someone to compare it to magicx sticks, that seems to be the smallest/most recessed good sticks I seen till now.

[tribal meadow]

I mean, I certainly don't want it to cost that much, but they're parading about sticks and 12GB, so...

[solid timber]

s865 is like at least 1.5 gens below 8300 btw lol

[snow kestrel]

Yeah. 5.5 OLED. Same control options

[zealous ridge]

still has no 512gb internal storage, so they can fuck right off with being close to $250

[snow kestrel]

And still performs better for a bunch of stuff 😆

[solid timber]

from my tests of the phones

865 can barely play f zero firecup lool

[zealous ridge]

I mean up to PS2 the D8300 obliterates the SD865 and Android games naturally also run way better

[solid timber]

8300 can do 3x

[ionic hornet]

ngl

these sticks look hot

[solid timber]

for a 1080p screen

[snow kestrel]

True on both counts. But it can't even run some lower stuff. I dunno. Id be hesitant to call it a clear winner

[solid timber]

i think we will need at least 3 x to play 480p games rite?

[warm wyvern]

The virgin Turnip dependant vs the Chad lone wolf Mediatek

[ionic hornet]

buh muh snapdragon drivers

[snow kestrel]

I mean hopefully dimensity gets the driver and software support if more stuff drops with it

[wintry lark]

Rp5 is more like 888 level
Active cooling helps

[solid timber]

8e doesn't even have drivers , just takes time

[solid timber]

8300 is in between 8gen1+ and 8gen2 though lol

everything i tests r phones

so none have active cooling lol

newer chip does benefit froom being more "cool"

with like 6nm 5nm tech lol

[zealous ridge]

the D8300 doesn't even gets hot if you push 6x on GCN stuff tbh

[snow kestrel]

Which is fine. But good chipsets when it comes to retro handhelds is a lot more than just it's stat sheet and what year it released

[solid timber]

lets at least agree on the power

8300 is in between 8gen+ and gen2

[ionic hornet]

man

[vocal loom]

Have you considered drivers ain't gonna help you get bitches

[solid timber]

the rest is up to whatever use case haha

[ionic hornet]

i really want this now

[wary tiger]

Does new Mali chips such as the one in d8300 supports dds format (usually compressed with BC7) texture packs in dolphin?
The D1100 don't, so that's a adv for snapdragon as well.

[solid timber]

for me

[zealous ridge]

I gotta wait for MagicX's D8300 challenger

[ionic hornet]

so wait

[solid timber]

never tested those

i just test raw power as a benchmark

[zealous ridge]

tho they probably have to come around with it sometime soon to be somewhat relevant

[ionic hornet]

couldn't anbernic just ship device to US warehouse and sell from there?

[snow kestrel]

Oh. Don't get me wrong. I hope we unlock this beast at some point. With full on compat it'll be killer

[solid timber]

8300 3x with f zero firecup and with almost zero lag , sound is 100% too

[solid timber]

100%

[ionic hornet]

gotta wait for magicX to actually make a device and not just mockups

[solid timber]

but 865 is too much of a dated chip

and it struggles with f zero at 1 x lol

while 8300 can do smoothly with 3

i have the video up

[snow kestrel]

She may be old, but I'd date her

[wintry lark]

Hmm can it play mh4u at 4x upscale though

I'll be convinced if it can

[solid timber]

it can play gow of war with vulcan x 2.5

and holds 60

gow2 from ps2

[zealous ridge]

the Zero28 are neat and the Zero40 and One35 are at least real at this point, tho not out for the average joe

[wary tiger]

F zero at 1x? You sure you tried switching opengl/vulkan and custom drivers?

[solid timber]

vulkan

for phones

at least

i just test a few games

[ionic hornet]

make sure to enable dual core lol

[warm wyvern]

Watch it be a T618

[ionic hornet]

F Zero GX has that issue

[solid timber]

gow 2 , f zero ngc, and mario 3d land 3ds

those r my benchmarks

[ionic hornet]

t820 can do F Zero GX at 1x fine

[solid timber]

i just the default setting with just internal resolution

changed

[ionic hornet]

yeah it has dual core disabled by default

gotta go in and enable it in per game settings

[solid timber]

well everything is in default setting oother than internal res

[ionic hornet]

seems to be a pretty common issue

[solid timber]

so it is still the same kind of handicup if there is any

and i have the adb stuff enabled too

so u can see the fps from the system

as much as cpu gpu load

well 8300 then could not have gpu looad , sooftware was not updated then lol

so with my test , 8300 is in everyway in between 8gen1+ and 8gen2 ,

8gen2 can do 4 times without active cooling lol

i am talking about games u can play

[wintry lark]

What about switch though

[solid timber]

i dont test switch lol

i think it is strange to emu switch

[ionic hornet]

womp womp

[solid timber]

when u can just buy a switch lol

[vocal loom]

Not an issue, they do that cause using dual core adds a lot of instability. Mostly at start but it can randomly crash yo shit

[solid timber]

and it even has LCD screen

for me it is better to have lcd for longer session

moore of a personal thing lol

oled has better coloor for sure lol

[ionic hornet]

at the cost of being unplayable on most systems

[vocal loom]

those systems pussy

[warm wyvern]

I don't like the Switch anyways ( i am coping )

[wintry lark]

🤷‍♂️ just saying

[solid timber]

well....why use emu when u can use the real thing lol

[warm wyvern]

Yes but emulating is better
I like the thrill

[stable nacelle]

Rule #1 undefined

Treat everyone with respect. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism, or malicious trolling will be tolerated. It goes without saying that there should be no political discussion, this is a handheld gaming server.

[solid timber]

emu is better if u have a overwhalmingly powerful ssytem though

like u can play games at 4k with pc emu haha

i tried like everythng with ps2

so unless the game is 2d, i prefer using emu with handheld lol

[warm wyvern]

I didn't see any disrespectful stuff here , we're just having fun. Is it about the Anbernic vs Retroid meme i shared ?

[vocal loom]

Wait yeah what lol

[solid timber]

i have hd crt set, normal crt set , prof crt monitor , for 3d games if u hhave a slightly bigger size, then the older 3d loook really is hard to appreaciate for me

so with emu at 3x 4x or something

ps2 gow 2 loooks like ps3 game lol

so if fully optmized

[ionic hornet]

dyno smoking zaza today

[wintry lark]

Nah I'm pretty sure someone's message got deleted

[vocal loom]

I just wanna know what it was for lol

[tribal meadow]

Bot misbehaving, time to bring out the feedback baseball bat.

[solid timber]

ll

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/hitting-someone-with-a-bat-hitting-a-guy-into-a-screen-hitting-and-breaking-the-screen-gif-24414471

so uh

how are US peeps gonna get this

[solid timber]

well with 150% price surge i guess ?

[vocal loom]

Yeah if y'all got any contacts that can say if they stocking warehouses that would be great

[ionic hornet]

that would be nice

[signal cedar]

It'll be interesting, not sure when pre orders go up yet

[solid timber]

i donot even know the prices

shoould ask thhem today lol

[ionic hornet]

$205 EB my guess

[warm wyvern]

My guess is $240

[signal cedar]

Yes pls 😆

[solid timber]

been busy with stuff hahaha lol

i had the video on upload last night

then went out with ash

and came back ,fell asleep lol

[signal cedar]

Also noticed it not getting hot so far

[thick sail]

Price only matters so much, the real costly question is whether we can get it before de mini mes die

[zealous ridge]

yep, probably could make do without active cooling, unlike the SD8sGen3 which will catch fire if you push it beyond 4x GCN (yet can actually do stable 6x, due to the drivers)

[wintry lark]

All we need now is a shipping from Vietnam option

But seriously I do hope anbernic has stockpiled some of these in us warehouses

[warm wyvern]

I think they have Warehouses in the EU , in Poland if i'm not wrong

[wintry lark]

Looks like they have more than I thought

We might just be back

[crystal sparrow]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-airlifts-600-tons-iphones-india-to-beat-trump-tariffs-sources-say-2025-04-10/

I'd imagine that Anbernic is doing the same thing as Apple at this moment

[warm wyvern]

This is good business of them tbh

[vocal loom]

I don't think this means they have done it yet

Hope someone confirms soon lol

[dawn jay]

My man Wild Lee is wildin, and I'm here for it.

[broken geyser]

I want to see Jak 3 ps2 tested on this cpu

[crude mango]

I uhhh, think I might actually want to replace my rp5 with this if this gets gamma

way better ergo, bascially the same screen, runs cool and efficient, I don't care about switch emu

[snow kestrel]

Yeah. If you can get over the tiny sticks it's def an RP5 alternative with real chops

[tight cape]

basically the same screen but at least on the rg556 it was tuned much more poorly

[crude mango]

My hot take is that I prefer the 406 screen tbh

[warm wyvern]

But i just want to sit at home in peace and stare at the desert knowing that i am emulating the Switch
It's just a simple thing a man can ask for

[crude mango]

to be clear I'll still emulate switch just on x86

instead of dealing with android jank

[warm wyvern]

But android has the challenge thrill

Tbf , i can run a bunch of indies on the T820 with zero problems
I like Android 😅

[warm wyvern]

MK8 for the WiiU*

[real plover]

@signal cedar please upload

[signal cedar]

Producer Sony is editing currently, he said late tonight is likely

I was considering a casual gameplay livestream in the meantime 🤔

[real plover]

Are the sticks everything we hoped for?

[signal cedar]

They are hilarious and work well!

[crystal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[signal cedar]

And fixed yes

[real plover]

https://tenor.com/view/train-gif-4283874669813644673

Im staying up to see

[vocal loom]

Well well well

I could always spend a little more money

[warm wyvern]

Bro livestream that gameplay like there's no tomorrow

[signal cedar]

[real plover]

Im just worried about tariffs on this one

[drifting summit]

Scale of 1 to 10, 1 being switch sticks 10 being Xbox sticks, where'd you put them?

[real plover]

I been panic buying handhelds lately lmao

[signal cedar]

hrm, a good topic for the stream!

[real plover]

Yesss

[drifting summit]

Fair enough

[real plover]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-paper-panic-toilet-paper-shortage-panic-buying-hoarding-gif-16587187

This is me except with handhelds

[crystal sparrow]

I already have a clickbait title for your livestream, so could you please start the stream now?: "I Got the Anbernic RG557 Before ANYONE ELSE and It's a GAME CHANGER!"

[real plover]

Its perfect

[vocal loom]

"The perfect handheld doesn't exi....."

[long chasm]

You know how to keep me happy

Any idea when from this in from. Uk mate gmt

[warm wyvern]

This things packs a D8300 and the 557 is an emulation beast !

• gets sued by ETA *

[long chasm]

Made my day thanks

Not for us Brits

[cunning garden]

just remember I touched 557 before anyone

[long chasm]

Shame no white borders the black bezels stuck out

[crystal sparrow]

Ask some etsy sellers to make white frame sticker

[long chasm]

My boiiii

Been hoping to see your stream and hear your lovely voice again forthenext

[long chasm]

That’s not a bad idea for a alternative

[cunning garden]

black frame screen protector worked quite well for GKD Pixel II

[vocal loom]

557 people waiting for the video at 1 in the morning

[lapis moat]

Who is reimbursing me for a new F5 key

[signal cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDlH3L3OMG0

10 min!

[vocal loom]

Oh wait a live? Thought it was a video

[wintry lark]

🐈

[signal cedar]

there will be one of those later tonight

im just streaming while its being edited

[lapis moat]

Honestly if the sticks work well and feel good then the tiny cap isn't much of a detriment. If anything it'll grab under the pad of your thumb a lil easier I'd imagine

[wintry lark]

There's always some weird drawback lol

[long chasm]

I love you

[thick sail]

Quiet buttons makes me happy

[vocal loom]

I mean the sticks look good lol

[narrow eagle]

yea

waiting on game testing

why is some guy in chat talking about n64 games

[feral escarp]

I feel like F-Zero GX should be the big test, if it runs that it should run basically any GC title except the usual star wars stutters

[vocal loom]

It will run it

Easily lol

[warm wyvern]

There's always the cringe requests. Soon " Try some NES "

Like , bro... just try WiiU / Winlator ...
N64 in 2025 is basic lmao

[mild jungle]

gonna request them to try some magnavox odyssey 👍

[warm wyvern]

Bless the comment who asked for MH and DK Tropical Freeze

[feral escarp]

I mean id hope it can hold 2x resolution and smooth 60 now with that jump, and hopefully gets that extra 20% or so of ps2 games to really nail that gen down

Actually havent kept up on wii u on arm / android, im assuming theres still a decent performance boost over attempting the switch ports?

[warm wyvern]

I'd like to see how WiiU behaves with that Cemu update
Perhaps Tropical Freeze and MK8 could be playable?

Maybe @cunning garden could try some WiiU when you're avaiable?

[cunning garden]

I don’t have mine yet!

[warm wyvern]

I know , when you have it i meant 😂

[wide bison]

a handheld with stick on top and dpad down and there's people asking for a request ''try some NES'' and that was some galaxy brain moment there, joke aside i want to see how nes looks on the other 4:3 device with 8300 for some weird reason. i want to know how well sega saturn emulation on 557 maybe some accurate beetle saturn idk..

[uncut storm]

On the stream f-zero gx got to x4 without drops, x5 for a bit but dolphin got a fifo error, but did not drop frames lol

(With vulkan)

[vocal loom]

Didn't do fire field but yeah it should still perform incredibly well

[wintry lark]

So based on the wild life tests, the rg557 is roughly 2x as powerful

[uncut storm]

Yes, that track is the hardest

Yup 1342 vs 2622 i think it was

Did not expect such difference, but then again those tests aren't everything

[vocal loom]

Basically

Overall

This is genuinely what people wanted out of the 556 successor

Better sticks (likely, even if smaller) and better chip

[uncut storm]

I don't mind smaller ones to be honest

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-me-resisting-the-urge-gif-27375049

[uncut storm]

Fight it

[vocal loom]

Man I get people are gonna do those comparisons for the sticks

But gahd dam does it show how poorly oriented the rp5 is

[wintry lark]

Man those sticks really are tiny wth

Giving a handheld giant grips and also giving it tiny recessed sticks is one of the design decisions of all time

[still ocean]

I dig the sticks

🥲

[uncut storm]

Having the stick and dpad at the same position vertically so they are uncomfortable is another choice of all time

[wintry lark]

No disagreement there

[vocal loom]

I'm trending towards liking them but really I just want to feel them to know for sure

[uncut storm]

I really don't mind the 557's sligjtly bigger size if it's going to be a lot more comfortable than the rp5

Is the flickering showing on the 557 screen because of the brightness?

[orchid beacon]

Why is the 557 screen shimmering on the live stream? The other 3 devices arnt

[fleet storm]

pulse width modulation flicker. It's how the displays brightness is controlled.

[warm wyvern]

I like what Retroid is offering better tbh , specially the Flip2

I don't know how WiiU performs on it so i'll wait for more tests and all

[vocal loom]

Pwm flicker, trust me you'd likely know if this bothers you by now

Otherwise you will not notice

[uncut storm]

I mean, on the stream it is annoying, but there's a huge difference between seeing through a recording and seeing it in person

[crude mango]

no shot the sd865 has a good enough gpu for most 3d wii.u games

honestly wii.u on android is still a bit of a meme atm regardless though

[warm wyvern]

I wanted to see how the WiiU performed on the 557 because of that. The Wiiu ported a bunch of games for the Switch that interests me
But they do well with Sudachi on the SD , like Tropical Freeze

[lunar python]

What a wonderful night

[uncut storm]

My only concern seems to be the pwm flicker, but stubbs said it doesn't show in person

Looks like a really neat device

[lunar python]

This stream was peak RetroHandhelds content. Stubbs and co are doing a great job 👏

[rancid pond]

I didn't know my pimax pixel had it until some asked me to test the panel for them. Mine had it and it never upset me.

[lunar python]

Hoping the Mali drivers make switch run better

[vocal loom]

I guarantee if you have enjoyed recent tech you've likely had devices with pwm. If you've never noticed it you won't start now

[uncut storm]

I will need to check a device with that to see, yeah

[vocal loom]

Actually pwm has been a thing for a very long time lol

Switch OLED has it below 50 I think

[rancid pond]

If it brother you. You would know it by now.

[uncut storm]

I see

[signal cedar]

Thanks! That turned into a really fun and focused one! ❤️

(about as focused as we can get) 😂

[uncut storm]

So pwm is also on lcd screens and such?

[soft harness]

@signal cedar Huge thanks for RG557 Live 🫡 Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱

I hope Nintendo closed its eyes when you turned on the Switch Emu 🕹😉

[signal cedar]

Yeah me too 😂 (happy to help, glad we could fit the stream in tonight before the RP Classic madness tomorrow!)

[hazy goblet]

They couldn't help and had to do something weird with joysticks again 😂 Last time they added cardinal snapping in software on purpose, this time they are comically small. I swear there must be someone on their team hired by Retroid and sabotaging their devices on purpose 😂

[hazy goblet]

Hey Stubbs, I'm watching the stream now and to be honest probably it would be better to show PWM flicker with white screen on both devices right now it looked strange when you said that you can see it with the white screen on RG557 and kept the dark screen on RP5 xD I know its not there anyway but I feel some people will complain xD

[uncut storm]

Yeah, i looked and some people aldo pointed the rp5 having that

https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1jz0c6w/pwm_flicker_on_consoles_from_retroid_pocket/?show=original

Although it looks different than on the stream

[soft harness]

I bought a cover in beige color for RG556. When I saw that RG557 was going to be released I didn't buy RG556. Now it turned out that RG557 will be white as I wanted 😅 Meanwhile, I'm using my Motorola Edge Pro 30 Transformer Device 😊 (Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 + 12GB RAM) + BSP D10. It allows PSP x8 and PS2 x4 + Aniso x16. Now I'm considering whether to buy an RG557 🤷‍♂️🤔 ?

[signal cedar]

ah yeah, just had low battery on rp5, didn't think on that aspect. 😆

[soft harness]

I wonder if the cover from the RG556 will fit the RG557. 👀

My Transformers

[placid condor]

That's a good question! With a black TPU shell for the RG556 you could potentially turn the purple RG557 into a black one, if the shell fits.

[soft harness]

@placid condor 👀😊 Yes 🥹

@signal cedar Anbernic mail 😏
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[thorn garden]

yeah someone linked that earlier already

[signal cedar]

Thanks!

[uncut storm]

Really sucks for people there

I mean, it will affect globaly, but...

[placid condor]

Not so sure how I feel about the pleasure bumps though. They look a little TOO aggressively stimulating for my liking 🤣

[hazy goblet]

Man the screen really looks worse than RP5 and Odin Portal

[soft harness]

Hands won't get sweaty in the heat 🔥😏

[placid condor]

My palms are already getting sweaty just looking at it XD

[soft harness]

The beige version did not have these tabs

[hazy goblet]

Also Portal looks much smaller than I imagined, I would say they are in the same ballpark with rg557

[signal cedar]

Screen tuned a bit different, but sounds like same panel. Also the screens are at different brightness settings here (plus the PWM is pretty annoying on camera, like on the AYANEO Pocket DMG). I need to research the settings for my cam to correct for that.

[hazy goblet]

If its the same panel I hope they didnt messed up refresh rate in Android 😄

[signal cedar]

reported as 60.2 in retroarch, 60hz in vsynctest website

[soft harness]

RG556 was damn comfortable 🥹

Especially if you have big hands

https://tenor.com/view/big-hand-jimmy-fallon-the-tonight-show-starring-jimmy-fallon-fallon-tonight-fixing-my-hair-gif-8145605

[signal cedar]

First impressions video 95% edited

Will still release tonight

[uncut storm]

Neat

So, did you notice any difference between the rp5 and 557 when looking at the screens beyond the tint?

[soft harness]

NFS PS2 x4 res and PSP x8 res

[signal cedar]

No difference to my eyes beyond the tint (and PWM flicker when viewing on my camera, my eyes don't detect any of that though)

[crystal sparrow]

You should be able to change the color temperature in the settings

[signal cedar]

Yeah you can make some adjustments

[uncut storm]

I guess it depends on the OS but yeah, all android "flavours" I saw had color settings

[uncut storm]

Thank you for taking the time to answer

[radiant meadow]

Stubbs how do you rate the new sticks out of 5

@signal cedar

[long chasm]

Cheers mate, if you can let Zu know I love his voice/vids when he’s on. Dw love you too haha.

Cheers

[signal cedar]

5/5 function, 2.5/5 form 😆

Great sticks though, they perform really well, just the right amount of tension

Ok vid is about to drop!

[radiant meadow]

Ooooooooo

[radiant meadow]

Wowww

[signal cedar]

https://youtu.be/3Y8JiSNGfkI

[signal cedar]

Since I filmed this before the livestream I come off a little unsure of it by the end, but the livestream perked me up more as we discovered the crazy performance gains. Also im finding it to be a great bed handheld so far.

[soft harness]

☠️ RP5 ... 🫣

[ruby skiff]

Drivers tho 😄

[radiant meadow]

Special

[uncut storm]

From what I read, on the stream they played some ps2 games at x6 and x7, so we can talk about drivers and such but first impressions seem pretty good

[silk sable]

Give me this level of performance, I'll be fine without the drivers.

[radiant meadow]

Oh guys GeForce apparently working but the controls don't

[ruby skiff]

same problem as before then >.>

[radiant meadow]

I mean that I would expected the chip is recently new and we need lot of updates

[radiant meadow]

Yep

[ruby skiff]

keymapper it is 😂

[uncut storm]

Not going to use it to stream, so as long as I can play things like shattered pixel dungeon or slay the spire i'm golden on the non emulation side

But let's hope they fix it

Maybe android doesn't recongize the controls as the usual xbox controller?

O well, the app

[soft harness]

Nintendo / Xbox mode

[uncut storm]

Ahh, yes, that could be

[soft harness]

Or no mapping in this OS version

[radiant meadow]

@proper flicker oh yh btw Stubbs played dmc 6x 4k on rg557

[crystal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bps1H4ikEx4

[uncut storm]

They really like that guitar riff

Hahaha

I'll see it later

[long chasm]

Does anyone know some alternative to cover the black borders with white ? Pisses me off because they did that with 406h had white so it would have make sense on the white 557

[lofty prairie]

🤷‍♂️ there are people that always like black even on non black shells

stuff like rg35xxsp some didn't like the beige borders

[uncut storm]

Do these things get much software support after launch?

[long chasm]

Wow what do you call these

Going to do something like this then slap screen protector on top to extra finalise it

[atomic lichen]

yes

[crystal sparrow]

Correction tape can make a mess on the screen because the thickness is uneven and you'll notice the seams. Instead, try using a self-adhesive white vinyl sheet and cut it to the exact size

[long chasm]

Cheers I’ll look into adhesive black tape

[grave mauve]

can I use a type-C to DP 1.4 cable for video out? if my monitor doesn't have the type-C alt DP port?

[feral escarp]

The ps2 performance from initial things seems super promising, should handle those remaining games the 556 couldn't which put me off...

Guessing it should smash most Wii and 3DS titles of interest too...

[vocal loom]

Insanely comfy

[proper flicker]

The moment Anbernic gets off their ass to send me a cap replacement for my 406H I'm gonna retest PS2 with different settings

(doesn't have anything to do with you, but it's been over a month and man is it frustrating)

[kindred cove]

My rg556 has the pwm too, the only time I notice it is when I go to take pictures of it with my phone, and it goes away if I turn the brightness up for the photo, my brain doesn’t see it live even on the lowest brightness, how I usually play

[ionic hornet]

Am I the only one that’s really digging the smol sticks

[feral escarp]

I dont mind the switch sticks tbh, it has the comfy layouts and grips with the performance to back it up this time it seems

Actually wonder how it will fare with "secret console" emulation, given raw power vs drivers...

[ionic hornet]

You mean switch emulation

[hazy goblet]

I will dig them on inevitible RG407H

[grave mauve]

sorry does rg557 have fast charge?

[ionic hornet]

Same

406H sticks were way too tall

[uncut storm]

Thank you for your input! I have tried with a bunch of stuff, my n2dsxl does it too if i use my phone's camera.

Sure, it's lcd and no oled, but I can play that foe hours and never felt strain, sl i hope that says something lol

I am used to the circle pad, so smaller is fine by me, specially if they work fine, plus they don't get in the way of the dpad or buttons

[hazy goblet]

yup, I wonder if the joystick caps for Gamesir telescopic controllers will work on the new joysticks

They are also very small

[kindred cove]

I find it to be a non-issue, until it’s time to take a pic for gotm lol, 557 seems awesome, I would maybe consider upgrading if I can order it direct from us and dodge customs, maybe sell my 556

[uncut storm]

I have yet to have a retro handheld and I was aiming for the flip 2 but this feels like the better choice (ergonomics + hopefully better emulation up to gcwiips2)

At least as a first device

Always liked clamshells though

[kindred cove]

Yeah I think 557 would be a killer first retro handheld, might even be your last for a minute

[ionic hornet]

Ye I’m sticking with my flip 2 for now but will grab the 557 as soon as I can

[uncut storm]

We are spoiled for cool choices

[feral escarp]

Yeah seems like it could finally be the perfect comfy handheld for ps2/gc

[kindred cove]

Yeah the 556 is so comfy to me, this is that with better* sticks and more powah, and asymm sticks is my personal must have

[uncut storm]

Lots of wii games should be playable (i mean control wise)

[feral escarp]

I nearly bought a 556 a few times, but not quite nailing ps2 racing games / F-Zero always made me hesitate

[grave mauve]

is gamecube the last great f-zero game sorry?

[feral escarp]

Last proper one at all... but it still holds up well

If you ever get a chance to play the Arcade version with the Blue Falcon cockpit.. 100% recommend, one of the best arcade experiences ive ever had

[timid elk]

The last proper one is one of the gba games, but yeah those aren't quite as great as GX

[ionic hornet]

Gonna buy an AX cab one of these days

[timid elk]

If you like GX I recommend checking out Aero GPX, it's in early access but it has a decent enough amount of content and is right up a GX-lover's alley

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-hop-on-aero-gpx-gif-27009784

[feral escarp]

Ah yeah i always forget GP legend came out a few months later...

[uncut storm]

Uh, didn't know about aero gx, neat

It's really disappointing how they never did anything after gx, but then again... what a hard act to follow

[feral escarp]

But yeah the F-Zero arcade in the deluxe cockpit... freaking amazing, wish i could find one in my city agian

[uncut storm]

Isn't just a greatly made game, it has lots of personality, it's hardass while goofy the same time. It has charm

The interviews, and the unlockable videos, it's so sega

[feral escarp]

Victim of Nintendos obsession with innovation, they claimed it wasnt sequel worthy as they couldnt come up with a gimmick basically...

[uncut storm]

Oof yes

We don't know what to do with dk.

We don't know what to do with star fox

Etc

[feral escarp]

Also why I honestly can't think of many Wii / Wii U games I even want to emulate...

[uncut storm]

Wii? I can think of many

Wiiu less but a handful yeah

[kindred cove]

If I had the money and space, it’d be one of the Star Wars battle pods for me lol

[feral escarp]

I feel like I can maybe think of maybe... 6 or so that dont rely on motion controls, few more with patches i guess

[kindred cove]

You can do motion stuff with the 556’s built in motion detection, they surely didn’t drop that in 557

But yeah Wii U is the lost console to me as well, anything interesting got ported out

[vocal loom]

You'd be amazed to find how many people love the feel of the transparent plastic lol

Super polarizing

I love it

[uncut storm]

I wanted the purple, but being so shiny and reflectable I am not sure

Or reflective?

[feral escarp]

Yeah only really has 2 games left on it that werent ported to Switch i think that i wanted / played... and theyre technically both on GC.

[uncut storm]

I don't have a switch so for me it's a bit more interesting I suppose

[kindred cove]

I have trans blue 556 and it feels so nice 😄

[uncut storm]

But yoshi's wooly world for example would be neat. I have it for 3ds, but I'd like to see the differences

[feral escarp]

Yeah now the switch is sort of finished and all the games i want run on firmware etc.. im looking into a modchipped lite tbh..

[uncut storm]

Or play dktf again

[feral escarp]

I own like 30+ switch games, but i really want them all on SD card to take with me to work etc.

[uncut storm]

Yeah,

That's something I really like about softmodding and homebrew

I installed my 3ds carts on my console, can access them any time

And wii/gx games on an usb stick, no need to change discs

[feral escarp]

Yeah like my 3DS i own 90% of the titles installed on it, but its handy to take carts that are worth potentially hundreds with me...

I really should sell some to pay for other shinies...

Think selling just the one persona game would pay for either this or a modded switch

[uncut storm]

Are they that expensive?

[feral escarp]

Eh dropped a bit since soft modding, its down to $200 now, was up to about $350 at one stage

[uncut storm]

Wow...

[feral escarp]

but i have boxed copies of pokemon HG / SS with working pokewalkers still so not like im starved for shit to sell if i have to haha

[uncut storm]

I can't fault people for downloading stuff with those prices

I still have hgss and the pokewalker

[feral escarp]

Yeah. i sold off my GC stuff, but kept handheld and pre n64... if it would help with a house deposit id sell it all in a heartbeat but for now im just sitting on probably about 8-10k worth i think last i added up haha

Like emulation is the only sane way to play some games without dropping a week or more pay

[uncut storm]

Yeah... not even the games alone, but displays of the time, adapters for newer displays or upscalers and such

Lots of hoops to jump through sometimes

[feral escarp]

I mean even using a Wii, still looking at like $400-500 AUD to play fire emblem path of radiance otherwise, though it might be coming to switch 2 online

[uncut storm]

Oof yes, that one is expensive everywhere

[feral escarp]

Like I had most of the big hitters and got like 1.2k for them so im justified in retro handheld impulse buys for a while haha

[uncut storm]

Quite a few hahaha

[feral escarp]

Kicker was Gamecube wasnt popular here, i sold 5 games that cost me $50, and from memory got $900 or so just for those haha

Anyway yeah ive been saving some of that cash for a Gamecube device so fingers crossed 😛

[uncut storm]

Looks promising enough

I remember when gc games were cheap

Pikmin for 5 euros

[wary tiger]

The sticks size and recessed positioning feel more suitable for smaller sub 5 inch handhelds, maybe it was designed for those in the first place.

These sticks would look great on stuff like ayaneo micro and pocket ace instead of what ayaneo is doing.

The screen seems to be running at a lower PWM rate than rp5 and Ayn portal based on the lifestream?
Thought it is the same screen as rp5 at least.

[tight cape]

it was the same story with the rg556, it somehow looks worse than the rp5 even though it's presumed to be the same screen

just poor tuning on Anbernic's part sadly

[uncut storm]

Does that can be changed by software? I suppose not but I wanted to ask

[lapis moat]

Yeah definitely. Retroid fixed their green tint bullshit with an OTA, Ayn fixed their refsh rate bullshit with an OTA

[wary tiger]

Or maybe it's actually different screens or at least from different factories.

[uncut storm]

Oh really?

That's great then

Tint i was aware but not the refresh

[lapis moat]

Anbernic generally doesn't have a history of ever pushing OTAs to devices but the fact that Stubbs units had an update out of the box is a promising sign

I'm not someone whose eyes are susceptible to PWM but it does suck for that 5% of the population or whatever it is

[ionic hornet]

Most anbernics I’ve owned have had OTA updates out of the box

That’s usually the extent of it but…

[uncut storm]

Maybe it's a matter of pestering them enough hahaha

[vocal loom]

Theres no way they care

Lol

[tight cape]

late to the party but banger video and stream, I feel like your stuff keeps getting better and better with every new release

[vocal loom]

Anbernic for better or worse will do what they want

[tight cape]

the choice of tiny sticks is odd

[lapis moat]

As evidenced by the damn carrying case

[tight cape]

it feels like Anbernic went all out with this one except that they decided to put tiny sticks for some reason

maybe they had other form factors in mind with these sticks

[rocky nebula]

not decide. they simply pulled from overstock

[vocal loom]

I would love them being in a back room and just like, "what bullshit do we make this time" lol

[rocky nebula]

why buy more when you can use the same ones from the other devices. everyone else does that, including onexplayer

[wintry lark]

Anbernic always has to add one weird slightly annoying feature to their handhelds, it's a requirement at this point

[tight cape]

I'm sure there are big off the shelf sticks they could source if they wanted to no? it's not like only these exist

but again maybe they were thinking of other handhelds when making this one

[rocky nebula]

yeah, but you can't make them change. they've probably already massmanufactured 10k units

[tight cape]

probably

[lapis moat]

The sticks work well, it's a net positive

[vocal loom]

If the stick is good then I don't particularly care

[ruby skiff]

but small sticks are satan

[wintry lark]

Rg406h sticks would've been better imo

[lapis moat]

The complaints of being too tall would roll in just as well, we all know it

[wintry lark]

Not from me though

[radiant meadow]

Hell no

[tight cape]

idk it's 2025 I think it's past due time for non-pocketable handhelds to have big ass sticks

we have had the tiny sticks for too long

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

Normally I prefer recessed sticks but if a handheld is this big might as well go the full mile

[radiant meadow]

I mean if the sticks is good full motion then that all matters to me

[uncut storm]

Yep

[rocky nebula]

with the 556, it was 'sticks too snappy' and 'not powerful enough for X games at Y resolution'
with the 557, it is 'sticks too small' and 'texture makes my hands offended.'

[uncut storm]

Besides, what good are "big ass sticks" that you will bump when going for buttons or swap between abxy to start/select

[radiant meadow]

That's I'm saying unless you can spare out like asus rog ally or odin 2 portal

[lapis moat]

Not saying a larger cap wouldn't be more ideal of course in a perfect world that's be great. But it's better than before still that can't just be written off because it didn't reach perfect level

[vocal loom]

I agree that bigger sticks are better, but if it's good sticks then it's good sticks ultimately

[wintry lark]

There looks to be enough space to where that really shouldn't be too big of a concern

[rocky nebula]

searching for new things to hate about a device is some peak consumerism. it's a brainworm that makes you keep buying

[wintry lark]

Isn't it the opposite

[rocky nebula]

brainworm: isn't it the opposite? buy the rg558

[uncut storm]

You know, the 557 seems cool and all, but why can't it play ps6 at x4 res? Obviously it's not worth it.

Hard pass for me.

[wintry lark]

Yeah I'm still not seeing it, if I don't buy the rg557 because of the sticks and instead buy the next rg558, that's still the same number of products purchased. Where is the consumerism in that

[vocal loom]

Really it just gets annoying that it's all people will talk about even if it turns out the sticks are good, as people will just use it as their justification for not buying the device but having to tell everyone

[tight steeple]

Why are we stick shaming

[tight steeple]

Facts

[wintry lark]

I'm just worried my fingers might slip off if they're too small

[uncut storm]

Anbernic should put full on arcade levers next time

[rocky nebula]

and now we're back to cardinal snapping

gj

[uncut storm]

Hahaha

Or even better, let them replace sticks with trackballs

[vocal loom]

I don't see it happening. You'd have to have massive thumbs and also be like a really sweaty person

[feral escarp]

Legit though, a single trackball could be useful but probably only on an x86 one...

[rocky nebula]

how long have we -all- been using small analog sticks?

that is a non-complaint raised to fear-mongering over a single handheld

[wintry lark]

No one is fear mongering it's just somewhat of a drawback

[uncut storm]

A handheld for SegaSonic the Hedgehog

And the arcade monkey ball too lol

[feral escarp]

Oh i was thinking like trackball / trackpoint for RTS, i played AOE back ages ago on a lenovo nub

[rocky nebula]

the blackberry IR nub would be fine

[vocal loom]

Luckily we are somewhat spoiled for decision nowadays at least

[lapis moat]

The other silent selling point are the (pun intended) silent buttons/pad, after straying away from Anbernic to go more "premium" and getting burned with clackyness it's gonna be real nice to not have to deal with that

[tight steeple]

Diabolical pfp

The stare…

[uncut storm]

Ah shoot, we got the wrong one.

Actually I'd be interested in seeing how new3ds c-stick style analogs would do on a system like this, because my modded n2dsxl with the lenovo trackpoint I find really nice to use.

[uncut storm]

It could work for those super tiny handhelds

[rocky nebula]

just use one of those little ir-mice. you could literally stick it anywhere on the face of the device.

hell, they make bluetooth versions these days

[vocal loom]

Oh dude I played GBC on an android that had a track ball lol. Links awakening I think, was actually pretty fun

Something like this

Waaayyyyy back lol

[rocky nebula]

whoa

i remeber those baby trackballs

[radiant meadow]

Old phones >>>>>

[rocky nebula]

which user ripped all but like 9 buttons off their blackberry and used it for retrogaming? this was like 2 years ago

[feral escarp]

I mean a big spinny ball arcade style could be fun too and they work ok as a mouse if you’re used to them, but need to be cleaned regularly

[uncut storm]

Totally...

[feral escarp]

Sliders would be ideal for if we ever get a psp go style handheld though.,,

Honestly I don’t mind sliders like the 3ds but games like smash destroy them

[uncut storm]

Hmmm, i guess some games might be hard for those

[crude mango]

honestly the small joysticks people are complaining about on the 557 gives me hope for more actually pocketable handhelds from anbernic in the future (an actual 405m sucessor? maybe the 407v will go more 40xxV styled and actually be pocketable?)

[feral escarp]

It’s the quick hard actions that break those… but yeah I don’t find switch sticks too bad tbh… and somehow touch wood my launch year joycons still have no drift

Like shorter sticks are generally less fatiguing?

[wintry lark]

A pocketable 407v would go so hard, not sure it's going to happen though

I suspect most of the 7 series are just going to be soc swaps in the same shell tbh

[feral escarp]

I feel that + no cardinal snapping is all most needed though

[orchid beacon]

Oh man forgot I had a htc with little trackball!

[long chasm]

I was surprised he said he didn’t like the feel of it and that it was too reflective I loved that on the 556

[long chasm]

Them triggers definitely must have drum over the 556

[feral escarp]

I actually quite like the texture and feel of my grey SP, like its not the best plastic but it doesnt get slippy etc under hand

[uncut storm]

I am more of a matte guy

[rocky nebula]

well, this is handheld adhd talking too. Like... every handheld that comes out has two things people don't like which gets obsessed over.
Odin 1 was "snappy sticks" and "learning curve"
rp3+/4/4pro was "hurts my hands to press buttons" and "ips screen bad"
rg351v was "dmg formfactor bad" and "rk3326 bad"
x18s was "finger smudge" and "face-button depth"

there's no rhyme or reason to it. it's just... a hyperfocus copied from a reviewer. we get to live with "texture bad"

[crude mango]

I feel like it's a natural consequence of having so many options

there's always going to be something one device does worse than others

[ionic hornet]

What’s new with the 557 crew

[rocky nebula]

yep. even the odin 2 has two unique annoyances.

"too heavy" and "fan whine"

[crude mango]

the base model odin 2? I didn't find the fan whine or the weight to be a problem but the screen was mid AF

fan whine is definitely a problem on the mini

[wintry lark]

Man the rg oled cube is going to be so good

[radiant meadow]

It's surprising how rg557 can push 3x to 7x on ps2 games

[crude mango]

you think they're gonna make one with the 3.92" 31:27 screen like the retroid classic/ayaneo DMG?

[crude mango]

the gpu is a beast

[wintry lark]

Not really but I hope they do

[rocky nebula]

yeah that's pretty nice. those gpu cores help a lot

[solid timber]

this is the baby 9300 ...

[radiant meadow]

Mann I'm going to enjoy this

[solid timber]

9300 is slightly better than 8gen2

not as good as 8gen3 ll

and they r very very good with gamecube

[crude mango]

arc pro with this chip, 406 screen, and sticks pls

[solid timber]

u can play f zeroo firecup at 60hz with 3x

at full speed

[radiant meadow]

Wait does odin 2 can push the resolution right

[solid timber]

and with zero sound shutter

[solid timber]

odin2 is better

[ionic hornet]

My only issue is the sticks

[solid timber]

it is 8gen2 rite?

[rocky nebula]

you only need so much resolution though

[solid timber]

that i have no coomment hahah

u need 3x with 480p game

for a 1080p screen

[rocky nebula]

2x ps2 is fine for a laptop screen. you won't see 3x details on a handheld screen

[ionic hornet]

I need big large Hall effect sticks. No deadzone and tight tension

[solid timber]

@rocky nebula

it is NOT lol

you will have to cover the res fully br

like has to reach the screen res

after upscaling

or it looks blur

like u play a ps3 game with 720p only moode

then u will be needing a good tv to upscale them to 1080p

but it wont look sharp like iit woould with a 720p screen

not to brag, i own like 100+ tv and monitors lol

[rocky nebula]

I can see you spent a lot of time thinking about this. I respect that.

[solid timber]

and i just get them foor retro gaming lol

like i have the hdm2830

just for ps3

[crude mango]

so when is anbernic gonna make a handheld that can run at 1200p 70hz for MS DOS CGA mode games

[solid timber]

my hdm2830 costs more than my lg 65g5 btw lol

[crude mango]

I got an asus proart monitor that's 1200p with VRR up to 75hz specifically for retro PC titles lol

[rocky nebula]

wait. HOW DOES BEATMANIA LOOK

this is what you're talking about. that's actually a good industry grade crt

[solid timber]

the best

if you can service it yourself

i mean arguably the a32 is better

but those r noot as analog as i want them to

if i am going digital

i have oled and pdp lol

[orchid beacon]

What’s this f zero firecup you keep mentioning?

[rocky nebula]

it's Fire Field

[solid timber]

f zero game cube

well lol

[rocky nebula]

the hardest to emulate map in the game

[solid timber]

english aint my first language

and i am bad with naming too lol

hahahahah

i am good with model numbers

as me anything on crt

lol

hahahahaha

[solid timber]

i have my video up there

with a phone tested

yeah a 8300 phone lol

i tested 2 years ago

that was the result lool

[rocky nebula]

dude. chill before they mute you for spam lol

[solid timber]

lololol

any screen talk gets me excited

[rocky nebula]

i had to help a friend resolder some wires in one of these old video-editing crt's in his basement a few weeks back, because he wanted something good for gamecube play

[solid timber]

u r a great friend

game cube proobly looks better with a pc monitor though

480p with wii rgbhv mod

[rocky nebula]

basically, someone literally ripped the ac-dc inverter board free when moving it in the used goods place

wasn't hard, just annoying

[solid timber]

well

my bro have to help me find a good kv 3400 dv2

from 4 units lol

and now i have only one good unit that might go black screen iif i keep them on too long

this is just what u get with old tech

so when i am not using them ,i just have to turn off the poower for that unit lol

but iit looks really good

my favor ps2 set, i pick it over my bvm 2011p

[ruby skiff]

having a dedicated handheld with D8300 is pretty cool 😄

[wintry lark]

Can someone with an 8300 test mh4u? Theoretically it should run at 4x but I'm not sure

[solid timber]

i tested

mario 3d land

it goes 4x with no issue my friend

which is considered one of the most difficult to emulate btw

it does freeze for a nano sec when they need to generate a new shader though lol

but i guess that is for all the devices lolol

[humble dust]

that's a Odin 2

[wintry lark]

Yeah I think that might be a limitation of 3ds emulation

[solid timber]

so if it is easier to emulate than mario 3d land

then it is cool bro

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Re411C7oq/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=b62221a5b2bcc6274f95b00712324fa3

the video doesn't have the mario part cuz of nintendo youtube thing

[wintry lark]

It's probably one of the harder games to emulate, but I think if the rp5 can run it at 3x then this can probably run it at 4x especially with azahar

[solid timber]

this is my og video

05:!2

05:12

is the mario

u can check it out youself

again, it will be better with handheld , i test phones , cuz i test them for screen specs mostly

[signal cedar]

Yeah which to me translated to not working, but I forgot to clarify on stream 😆

[uncut storm]

Did that happened to other handhelds?

[ruby skiff]

on the 556 yes

[hearty hound]

em, just watch some videos, and even switch emulation still sucks on even highest mtk ''i didnt expect it can be that bad still'' ... what is going on, why 0 improvements by over year (Even S.N 845 just delete them in this cases)
HOW IT POSSIBLE?

[wintry lark]

Am I stupid or couldn't anbernic just allow US customers to ship from their European warehouses

[ionic hornet]

Definitely

They have US warehouses too

[river parrot]

Driver support matters

[ionic hornet]

They’d still be subject to tariffs tho I’d assume

It’d just be tacked on the actual purchase price

[zealous ridge]

I mean, if you want to pay 50bucks shipping + I think 20% tariffs?

[ionic hornet]

they’d have to pay the tariff to get it in the country

[zealous ridge]

and let's not forget that the EU warehouse stuff already has about 20% tariffs on there, because it got inside the EU

[wintry lark]

That's still better than the alternative

[zealous ridge]

I mean... maybe?

but let's say it's a $200 handheld, it gets taxed 20% when it goes into the EU, then shipped for 50bucks and then another 20% on top of it all, you end at like $350 anyway

not really worth the hassle IMO

[wintry lark]

Seems like there's a 10 percent tariff on the UK as far as I can tell

[zealous ridge]

so $320 then

[vocal loom]

Just tell em to stow a crate with iphone planes

[wintry lark]

If worst comes to worst though it will be a better option than 120% turning it into a 440 handheld not including shipping

[zealous ridge]

I mean I totally get wanting new toys, but paying so much extra kinda makes it not worth it IMO

it's not like anyone will run out of handhelds soon on this server

[hearty hound]

new chipset => new drivers, and still trash, any demanding game actually slide show

[wintry lark]

I mean if/when it happens I'll probably just look at the used market and see what I can get, or just buy a tablet

The new aldocube is looking pretty sweet

[narrow eagle]

ye ahhh honestly

i dont think the 557 is like

THAT much of an upgrade

[zealous ridge]

in terms of performance it blows anything but the Odin 2 out of the park tbh

[narrow eagle]

it does high end better but like

the 556 runs every ps2 i wanted to play

[hearty hound]

even odin pro blows it in switch/xbox/ps3, so

[zealous ridge]

I mean, personally I have no use for the 557 anyway
but an rg407h that is less "ergonomic" would be fun

[stark cape]

Switch sticks though 😭

[narrow eagle]

they’re fine

[radiant meadow]

👀

https://tenor.com/view/jjongjunie-jeonghan-jeonghan-side-eye-svt-seventeen-gif-22073567

[narrow eagle]

look i dont cramp in my fingers

i cramp in my wrists

[warm wyvern]

They will probably be sold from warehouses in Southeast Asia or Europe tbh
There will be a fee but at least it's a solution

[narrow eagle]

yea

prolly gonna declare em as like

“Tablet Phone”

to get around most fees

[warm wyvern]

They will declare them as phones and they won't be lying tbh

[narrow eagle]

yea these are just basically android tablets

[vocal loom]

It's time

Retire the 556

[narrow eagle]

look i only got plans for one handheld console and its name ends in a 2

[uncut storm]

Virtual boy 2 was announced?

[vocal loom]

Yeah the 556-2

Retail name 557

[uncut storm]

Now with a third cardinal snap stick!

[warm wyvern]

Flip 2 , Switch 2 , Odin 2 Portal

[hearty hound]

2 mini

[warm wyvern]

Only chads play Celeste with the sticks and Cardinal Snapping is a must otherwise you're a noob

[narrow eagle]

okay whats funny
is that the cardinal snapping on my sticks like

got weaker

[uncut storm]

So it became a cardinal strolling?

[warm wyvern]

It's too easy without the cardinal snapping
Any FPS without cardinal snapping is cheating

[narrow eagle]

basically

@rocky nebula can also confirm this happened to his also

[vocal loom]

Get the 557

[narrow eagle]

flip 2 is dead to me

for alot of reasons 💔

[uncut storm]

What happened?

[narrow eagle]

i dont like the blue they used

also i think its too small for my hands personally

[uncut storm]

You mean the gc color?

[warm wyvern]

No

[warm wyvern]

The GC one is cool , i will forgive retroid this one time

You're getting the Switch 2

[river parrot]

That’s the issue, newer isn’t always better. The raw power is there but meaningless without optimization and support. The Snapdragon 8 Elite has a similar problem.

[hearty hound]

compare to mtk, elite dont have any driver problem

[rancid pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997151131471986839/1340502608670101504/gifstar-cm6zmv68n2qmrf5s2mvet6sc0.gif

[warm wyvern]

The coping to mask that fact is real right now
Power without optimization means nothing
You have a Lamborghini but the gas tank is locked

[vocal loom]

AI is getting crazy

[wintry lark]

That's not ai it's real I was there

[vocal loom]

Fwiw I never coped nor care to cope. If I get this it's straight 3ds, gcn, Wii goodness

[narrow eagle]

this was the entire rp4p vs 556 debate

[wintry lark]

Rg407h is about to be crazy

[river parrot]

What? I’m not coping lol I’m explaining something

[narrow eagle]

true

[warm wyvern]

I didn't mean you 😂😅

[vocal loom]

I think he means other users

[warm wyvern]

I meant the coping i am seeing online for it 😅

[river parrot]

Oh ok, I was like what haha

[narrow eagle]

rg cube 2 with the ayaneo dmg screen >>>>

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-true-conquest-conquest-true-conquest-gif-18084577569699045071

[warm wyvern]

You know what you want and the device is more than capable to run these systems upscaled.
It will fill your needs and that what matters

[vocal loom]

Fwiw this device is 100% gonna be a super luxury purchase lol. I just want to see if I'd consider it a 10/10. I have had and will continue to get stronger devices. Even have an O2 portal on the way lol

[warm wyvern]

Bro you can buy anything, it's your money and you earned it.
I literally preordered a Switch 2
The timeline we live is peak cringe , if we can at least have a hobby and enjoy some games from our childhood then so be it

[uncut storm]

I honestly haven't seen much conversation about the 557 on the net and most of it was either about tariffs or the chip and "no switch", barely anything else.

And i mean written, not video

[lapis moat]

Discussions about power/performance always overshadow other arguably equally important aspects like in-hand experience and button feel.

[uncut storm]

...yeah, I have noticed it.

[zealous ridge]

I mean, it's Anbernic, should be fine

aside from the tiny sticks, lol

[thick sail]

They're fun sized

[uncut storm]

But even then I don't know what to say. Complaining that "can't play switch games" while ignoring the big improvements feels... intentionally obtuse.

I honestly have no issue with the size

I change controllers often so it's not like I require some standard to be met all the time

[zealous ridge]

I mean, "can't play Switch games" is a stretch, given how it should handle them better than the t820 in the rg556

Wii U is a bit of a bummer tho

[lapis moat]

It's a per-person basis none of these ever have been or ever will be one size fits all. For me if I don't have quiet buttons I don't care how strong the device is it's gonna discourage me from picking it up. If I don't wanna pick the device up it's not a good purchase on my part

Anbernic's membranes have huge pull for me

[uncut storm]

Hmmm, i only saw the small snippet of amazing spiderman from stubbs. Seemed to run fine... What else was shown?

[vocal loom]

For me ergos are king dude

It's why I can't buy an expensive device with retroid/ that style layout

Or at least if it is it's much better designed like the g cloud

Even my switch I have the hori split pad pros lol

[uncut storm]

I get you

Why even play if you feel uncomfortable

[supple anchor]

Release date when

[radiant meadow]

Bro I was like rp5 over rg557 easy but I would feel uncomfortable as mf

And I loveeeee ergo

And my hands is big

[long chasm]

Can’t wait for the 557

[lofty prairie]

fps is ergo for the eyes

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-helpmann-true-feel-that-thats-true-morgan-freeman-true-gif-15273165990450333551

[rocky nebula]

Yeah, if you break in your analogs, the snapping goes away

This is prime proof most of you don't actually play your handhelds lol

[wintry lark]

Like completely?

Also how long does that actually take

[rocky nebula]

Few hours of strenuous play usually.

[wintry lark]

Makes me wonder how many people actually used theirs then

[rocky nebula]

Driving games were nigh impossible when I first got the 556, and now they're all rather smooth. Its not completely gone but not 0 to 100 sensitivity in a single touch

ps3 controllers were the same for me back in the day. They were stiff and over sensitive when you first got them

[radiant meadow]

Actually that's true ps2 controllers are same thing as well

[rocky nebula]

Its just one of those gamer things. If you're already used to breaking in new controllers, the whole cardinal snapping thing just feels like a weird topic to gripe about.
Its not like we're a competitive gaming group here though.

[narrow eagle]

yea i just play dpad games mostly but thats because of like
ease of playing

[vocal loom]

Handheld of the year right here

[tight cape]

small sticks, poor driver support and a poorly tuned OLED panel kinda holds it back a bit

I'm getting the same "very good but not end game" vibe of this one as I did of the rg556 back then

[vocal loom]

You're right

Handheld of the decade

[narrow eagle]

you mean the ps portal

[hearty hound]

atm best handheld for that year is pocket clasic 😄 with insane performance for such a low price (120$) even it beat 557 btw in high emulation 🙂

[wintry lark]

You mean the onexsugar

[rocky nebula]

If it can play kingdoms of amalur and shining resonance refrain, a+ device. Worth dropping 100 hours on

[quaint jolt]

Except it lack sticks. So even with all that performance, some games will be very inconvenient to play

[hearty hound]

well, i has touchscreen

[quaint jolt]

Okay but your thumb is gonna cover half the screen

[hearty hound]

alr

[supple anchor]

we arent in business of gaming. We are in business of buying handhelds

[narrow eagle]

two goats and a fraud

[hearty hound]

yuh 557 decent

[silk sable]

Embarrassing for retroid

[wide bison]

557 and that mini red gb the goat

[mild quail]

🔥

[narrow eagle]

thank you for picking up the message 🫡🫡🫡

[verbal sky]

Can I charge and video out at same time with RG557? Or would I need some kind of dock sorry?

[uncut storm]

Looking up, the 556 couldn't easily do both even with a dock, and it's soon to know about 557

Let's hope they fixed that...

[lapis moat]

556's problem with that was a limitation of that Unisoc chip, I have no idea if any of the reviewers have checked yet? but I guess whether or not the RP4P had a problem would be a good indication since they're both MTK

[uncut storm]

The rp4p also used a mali gpu?

[crystal sparrow]

If you're interested in learning more about capacitive joysticks like the ones in the RG557, check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDfG5l88YQA

Just remember that the RG557 might use a different module and implementation than the PXN 8K controller and probably doesn't have the 8000hz polling rate, so the performance could be different. We'll have to wait for a complete teardown to find out if they’re using the same JL16 by K-silver

[lapis moat]

Yep

[uncut storm]

That's pretty curious with how candidly I saw a bunch of people on reddit talk about it

[signal cedar]

Update on 557 purple pre-prod unit: the L2 button tension now matches the R2, I just needed to use it for a while, tight spring or something similar at play in there

[uncut storm]

Cool

[tight cape]

Narrator: he just got used to it

[hazy solstice]

Alright when can I have it

[lapis moat]

For real where is my order buttonnnn

[meager hatch]

On paper and benchmarks this out classes the RP5 by a pretty substantial amount and would love to see a detailed comparison between the 2 . Besides drivers I don’t see much of what the RP5 does over the RG557

[hearty hound]

switch (heavy), x86, xbox, ps3 - say bye

[uncut storm]

It has superior hand damaging potential :D

...You say it as if the ps3 is performing well on rp5

[rocky nebula]

See, stubbs broke it in for ban and zu. This is how gamer bros operate.

[ruby skiff]

im detecting Sanj is not a big fan of this 😄

[hearty hound]

it does (much better with overclock ofc)

[silk sable]

Good tradeoff, I'd say.

[radiant meadow]

And linux

[hearty hound]

if u dont need them yes, pure performance insane even vs 950mhz (=888+) when 8300 over 8+ gen 1 and 30% lower than 8 gen 2 (GPU)

[rocky nebula]

Anbernic should just rererelease the Ayaneo Slide(without the keyboard) as the win602

that would top off this year. Best arm handheld under 300. Best x86 handheld under 500.

[uncut storm]

I don't know how much "overclocking" does, but I saw a video of ps3 on the rp5 and "well" is not what I would use to describe it.

I mean, it's cool we're getting there at all, but i don't see much value between "runs poorly" and "runs a bit better than poorly."

Either way is not solid, so it doesn't bear any value to me when deciding

[rocky nebula]

Problem is ps3 simply needs more power, which arm devices don't have

[hearty hound]

ps3 weak asfuck compared to arm devices

[uncut storm]

Like, to put an example, if the 557 runs a ps3 game at 17 fps and the rp5 at 22, yeah it's better; but i am not going to use neither

[rocky nebula]

Very schizo hot take, but sure

[hearty hound]

um, overclock 20-30% increase

[hearty hound]

that happened when u dont understand what hardware is 😄

ps3 weak, but hard to emulate bc of dumb architecture

[rocky nebula]

this is the same noname that suggested overclocking the a527 was how you make it beat t618, to which sinyorksu replied 'that's how you make the soc explode'

[uncut storm]

Besides, with all the stutter and the crashing it wouldn't be great either

[hearty hound]

i didnt lol

dont be mad, u just dont understand what hardware is, that fact

[rocky nebula]

you need at least an rx580 tier GPU for good ps3 gameplay as well.

[hearty hound]

ps3 = 7800 GTX +-

ps4 weak HD7850
ps4pro = RX480 (but with some differences 470+480 mutant)

8 elite = equivalent in row power gtx1650, also it beat Rog Ally with 780m in any gpu benchmark, its already enough for ps4 emulation ofc, hope Shad will do (how it perform on low-end pcs u can check, it run on linux also)
8 elite 2 = insiders says it rise 20-30% = 890m = 3050m 35W
OFC for emulation u need more power that original hardware is, but not that much how kid think
btw i was new in andoid/lunux TV consoles, but not in pc/arm hardware (if wont look like a noob, just dont try argue without basic technical knowledge )

[vocal loom]

This seems not worth on a Saturday

[rocky nebula]

Trolling doesn't work if you dont know what you're talking about

[hearty hound]

ofc 😄 try harder

[wintry lark]

Found this on reddit

[hearty hound]

rip...

[uncut storm]

it was shared a couple of days ago

[radiant meadow]

They already announced on Twitter

[quaint jolt]

Many companies are doing the same thing

[vocal loom]

Hope they shipped some to the US already lol

[wintry lark]

Says it was 22 minutes ago on reddit