RG557

[atomic lichen]

we are basically SW locked on those games .... iirc Dirge of Cerberus is one of them

[stark locust]

I don't remember ever having faced that problem. Maybe you can provide examples

[radiant meadow]

I mean if they can brute jak 2 and 3 and sly cooper 2 and 3

[atomic lichen]

hmm i should try those on Odin 😄

[radiant meadow]

Odin 2 would do fine enough power for them titles

Hell no one would try the getaway black Monday

[ruby skiff]

Jak 3 needs a fair bit of power but my o2 has been able to play it

might need to mess with settings more 😄 im used to just having it brute force through most of the ps2 library at 3x without blinking lol

[radiant meadow]

Try the getaway and driver parallel lines

[ruby skiff]

and what are those when they are at home? 😄

[vocal loom]

Ok now just drop a release lol

[uncut storm]

Of which, games where the background and font have too low contrast or games where there's no background and text is tiny so is hard to see from whatever is happening behind it?

[modest grotto]

Do you think they'll follow the same release pattern as with the T820 devices?

[stark locust]

I've never had either of those

[uncut storm]

You

It's as easy as to use a search engine and look for "game text hard to read /too tiny" and you can find results all the way to the late 2000s

[stark locust]

Yeah dude, I can only speak about my experience lmfao

[uncut storm]

https://i.imgur.com/4XcB9dp.jpeg

Here's one example. Look at the credits, look at the dialogue.

Look at how big the picture is.

Now imagine if you had vision problems

That is not the worst font out there

[stark locust]

The one making the claim should be bringing up the evidence

[vocal loom]

Have you tried not having vision problems

[uncut storm]

"If my experience says I don't have problems means no one should"

[stark locust]

That's not what I said at all

You're clearly delusional dude, go touch some grass

[uncut storm]

You have DECADES of people complaining, I said you can easily find out

[stark locust]

I politely asked for some examples and you started attacking me lol

[silk sable]

Imagine there are people completely blind but still trying to play video games and you're here complaining about text not looking good.

[warm wyvern]

6 months until the V version is released RIP

[vocal loom]

Like months in between? We are already off schedule for the 557

[warm wyvern]

They should skip the Cube this time tbh , i'd even say to release the H instead of it.

And then next comes the D9300 for the 558 😂

[vocal loom]

I wonder how much staying power the cube has. I imagine the cubeXX was more desirable but I could be wrong

[uncut storm]

...looking good? Do you really think that is what I was talking about?

It's about being accessible for people with issues. Someone with visual problems will have a hard time with these things.

Heck, people without issues have been complaining about this stuff for years too as I said.

[silk sable]

I'm sorry, but the reality is, not everything has to cater to everyone and there's nothing wrong with that.

[stark cape]

Bruhh

He's asking for well designed subtitles lol

[uncut storm]

Cater to everyone... it's text.

[lofty prairie]

accessibility features.....

"cater to everyone"

[vocal loom]

Y'all gonna turn this into a retroid chat lol

[uncut storm]

This complain funny enough wasn't nearly as notorious before HD resolutions, as fonts tended to be bigger, specially on systems with tiled graphics

Let's start another flexgate

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/marvin-gaye-whats-going-on-funktagious-uncut-funk-gif-13917406

[uncut storm]

But hey, I'll leave it at that. You have decades of complaining, from really varied points of view. If anyone cares, it's as simple as too make a quick search.

[uncut storm]

What were the differences between the cube and the other?

[radiant meadow]

1:1 vs pure 4 inches with 4:3

[uncut storm]

Ah right

[warm wyvern]

1:1 screen on the Cube
It's painful tbh

[uncut storm]

Hmmm, what does benefit 1:1? I guess less black bars on 8:7 content

[warm wyvern]

It's only good for old shooter games and Game Boy Color imo

[radiant meadow]

And gba

And Ds And 3ds

[ionic hornet]

Pico 8 and 8:7 stuff too

[warm wyvern]

And yes 3DS and DS

PS2 / Wii / GC and some Switch is painful on it

[uncut storm]

Obviously, the aspect ratio doesn't work

It's limited then, but can have some use cases

But a 4:3 would be more generally useful

[radiant meadow]

Actually GC is Actually nice on it they have some settings to fix on the full screen

But wii and ps2 yeah long day

[warm wyvern]

With Retroarch i think

[vocal loom]

I just can't see the market for an updated cube that's not the xx or so line

[uncut storm]

That's weird, the gc and wii use the same resolutions... unless you want to use the fake widescreen it had, can't remember the name

[stark cape]

I thought Wii had actual widescreen, not the cropping thing that PS2 did

[uncut storm]

No

It's thw fake one

[ruby skiff]

Now now children, be good

[uncut storm]

It squeezes elements and then stretches the picture

[stark cape]

Huh

[uncut storm]

You can appreciate a loss of sharpness using the widescreen

[stark cape]

I know on GTA on PS2, the picture just zoomed in lol

So you were actually losing visibility

[uncut storm]

i know a bit of wii, i was one of the people lookin at the deflicker filter and such

Years ago

Some games do zoom in, it's true

That's why I don't use widescreen on these systems, and if you hack them often have disappearing elements you can see pop up and off

Others can look good though, so it's a case by case

[vocal loom]

Wouldn't the 4:3 be zoomed in and not widescreen

[uncut storm]

No

What those tend to do is zoom into the 4:3 picture, then try to get a 16:9 cut out of the original 4:,3

So you lose, specially vertical picture

But the most common tactic was to squeeze horizontally the 3d models and 2d assets, then stretch the entire picture to approximate s 16:9 picture

[lofty prairie]

9:16 would be nicer than square

[uncut storm]

It was the same.number of pixels, but your tv's 16:9 setting would stretch

[lofty prairie]

ds/3ds

[uncut storm]

A good ds/3ds retro handheld would be ace

[lofty prairie]

more niche but the chipset actually fits

[ionic hornet]

3:2 is perfect for stacked DS

Or rather 2:3

[lofty prairie]

does anyone make use of split screen feature on android?

Does any of the emulation devices even have that enabled?

wonder how it would work with controller inputs

[uncut storm]

Like, for 2 people playing?

Ah, wait

You mean having like two apps opened and showing?

[atomic lichen]

soooo 557 reveealed

when is Arc7

[lofty prairie]

yea having two apps

[lapis moat]

Most of the ones running A13 should be able to do it, if not all

[uncut storm]

What would that be useful for, for emulators?

[lapis moat]

Can see it being nice for playing a game and watching a guide video at the same time

For walkthrus

Or just watching bullshit whiile you geind

[uncut storm]

Oh, arc as in arcade 6 buttons, did not know that line of consoles

[uncut storm]

Oh yeah, having some info on the side for systems that have smaller aspect ratios could be neat

[atomic lichen]

yes ... i want successor to RG Arc thats fully capable of emulationg all Sega ..... d8300 should be enough

[uncut storm]

Huh 6 buttons plus sticks

[atomic lichen]

something like the above mockup

[uncut storm]

That's a all terrain system lol

Man the mega drive dpad was so comfortable as a kid

[lofty prairie]

yea guides/web browser/notes

[uncut storm]

I remember having a knockoff ps2 controller with one, it was so good too

[atomic lichen]

really enjoyed playing with RG Arc ..... its just that RK3566 is not good enough for most of saturn/dreamcast

d8300 shuld fly trough even beetlesaturn core (which T820 wouldnt)

[uncut storm]

I can't wait for tests on the 8300

[atomic lichen]

yup gonnabe interesting to see even though i am not really interested in rg557 specifically (as Odin2Pro owner)

[ruby skiff]

the 8300 should be a nice jump

i know we wanted snapdragon but this isn't bad either 😄

[vocal loom]

I just don't care about switch so SD vs strong MediaTek doesn't change much for me

Dimensity*

In this case lol

[tight steeple]

3:4 so you can do stacked 3ds as well

[uncut storm]

I wish the conversations around the 8300 weren't so switch centric, because i have no interest in using it for that

[stark cape]

Yeah

A Switch Lite isn't that expensive, if you really want to play Switch games lol

I'm absolutely more focused on what the possibilities are with Wii U

Since it's a failed console with some banger titles

[lofty prairie]

play switch games better than switch

[stark cape]

I mean can even Odin 2 do that?

That's basically still the peak of performance with these devices

Like for that kinda thing, I thought you'd have to look beyond even the Steam Deck

[ionic hornet]

Kinda need x86 to achieve that

[vocal loom]

Like in totality I'd rather have a really good chip + ergos. People will say just get the rp5 but imo, ergos matter more to me. Like why do I even want a strong chip if the stick is arthritis inducing to use

[uncut storm]

...yeah,

[stark cape]

The Flip 2 should have been that, but supposedly despite the reinforced plastic or whatever, there are still hinge issues

Me personally, I'm still on the fence about Odin 2 Mini

I have 10 more days to decide

[fading oxide]

Exactly this. Nothing else matters if actually using the handheld is uncomfortable. At least Anbernic's many devices gives everyone a chance get something suited for them. I was hoping retroid was going to make a powerful vertical with the Classic to rival the 406V, but alas...

[stark cape]

As cool as the 557 is, I think it's just about too big for me, unfortunately

[fading oxide]

Same, and heavy too. But that's fine, it's Anbernic; unless the world blows up, they'll release this stats in other ergonomics. H/V/Cube they are all smaller than this.

[uncut storm]

The thing, i want a big screen, less than 5.5 (if we're talking 16:,9) would feel not great for me.

[fading oxide]

Just gotta wait a couple more months. In the meantime, others can show how off PS2/GC will perform on this and quell any fears about the chip (hopefully)

[ionic hornet]

Hinge issues?

What are these hinge issues

[stark cape]

I thought I saw that one of the reviewers had their hinge crack

I'm not sure though

[uncut storm]

I thought the hinge wasn:t a problem for flip 2,

As in, all reviews I saw found it solid after continuously flipping it

[stark cape]

Rather that the buttons aren't recessed enough then?

[lapis moat]

Anbernic owner has now stated they have 7 or 8 more devices coming down the pipeline, with 2 coming in May. So wait shouldn't be painfully long.

[uncut storm]

7 or 8? Jesus

[ionic hornet]

Yeah I haven’t seen any reviewer reports on flip 2 hinge issue s

[stark cape]

Well hopefully the 407H doesn't come out as late as the 406H did

[uncut storm]

Pls a 507something

4:3 i mean

[stark cape]

I'd imagine the second device in May will be the start of a new budget line

[quaint jolt]

According to RH stream last night, Anbernic is holding back due to Tariff situation to become more clear

[uncut storm]

I guess if they have that many to show I will.need to wait longer and see

[quaint jolt]

As soon as the dust settles, I expect them to go all out

[fading oxide]

Very nice. A lot of that has to be their new budget line, but surely at least two more with these stats is guaranteed.

[uncut storm]

Although a 4:3 would make harder to play ds and 3ds I suppose...

Man, one device for everything is really not possible lol

[stark cape]

I require high end 3:2 devices

Satiate me, Anbernic

[uncut storm]

Out of curiosity, the odin 2 struggles too with the harder to run switch games?

[lapis moat]

You're very hard pressed to find a title it struggles with

And whichever one it does struggle with, the switch itself also struggles with it

[uncut storm]

Oh, interesting

I guess people look at devices like that one and expect lower range ones to perform similarly

[stark cape]

If I were to emulate Switch, the game I'd be most interested in is TotK

Which is probably super hard lol

[uncut storm]

I imagine

[lapis moat]

Odin2 has been the performance king for so long it's become kinda the measuring stick everything is propped up against

[oak kernel]

can someone brief me about why mediatek chips arent good with switch?

[uncut storm]

Drivers

From what i took from conversations

[lapis moat]

Tldr there isnt a lot of external driver compatibility available so you're stuck only using the Mali GPU ones in the device, which don't play too well with Switch.

Compared to Snapdragon chips which have the ability to swap out drivers on the fly, and Adreno is already pretty comfy with it

[oak kernel]

drivers meaning like

vulkan can open gl?

or does drivers mean something else

[lapis moat]

Vulkan and onengl are drivers yes

Basically graphic rendering tools

[oak kernel]

ahhh

[lapis moat]

Like if you've ever seen someone put on Turnip drivers to run a Switch game better that's another one

[oak kernel]

cuz in my head its just like "if its strong enough then it should be good"

maybe im just simple minded

[silent niche]

Vulkan and OpenGL are graphics APIs, not drivers. One level higher.

[uncut storm]

And it's stronger

[lapis moat]

Yeah unfortunately raw power doesn't solve everything

[uncut storm]

Yup

[lapis moat]

The 4 extra gigs of RAM should help a fair amount tho

[oak kernel]

true they need support from like the emulators

[lapis moat]

I dont thinkk the situation is gonna be as bad as you may think

[oak kernel]

yeah plus i feel like switch is just like

a nice to have on a handheld

at least to me

[vocal loom]

I note this a lot but it's so weird that people buy for super edge cases. Like if you want switch, get switch or O2 minimum. Idk, I'd get this if you want really good Wii, gcn, PS2, and android games

[oak kernel]

yaa

[lapis moat]

And streaming

[vocal loom]

Yes

[oak kernel]

i do really look forward to this device

[lofty prairie]

jbasd

[uncut storm]

I am sure lighter switch games could run, but yeah, i find kinda... strange that people expect full performance of a system that is still current at less than the cost of said system

[lofty prairie]

switch is almost 10 years old

you're getting old!

[uncut storm]

We are all getting old

Aaaahhhh

It's interesting how long lived the switch is

[oak kernel]

oh my days

damn bruh

[uncut storm]

It stole some years from the gba I bet

[stark cape]

Are there any emulators still in active development?

Or did Nintendo kill them all

[lapis moat]

Sudachi still going

[uncut storm]

For switch you say?

I never dealt with that stuff so i have no idea at all

[lapis moat]

Sudachi and Citron had been neck and neck for a while with active development but Cirton just recently wrecked itself so its just Sudachi now

[trail elbow]

Mali custom drivers?!

[wintry lark]

But it also still looks good with 4:3

And works well with 3ds and ds

[atomic lichen]

tbh that varies across the globe

can lite even be moded to underclock?

[stark cape]

I know some countries have extremely high sales tax

[wintry lark]

At least in America you can easily find one used for less than $150, sometimes $100

[atomic lichen]

dayumn

[stark cape]

Can AliExpress bypass that or something?

Like with South American countries

[uncut storm]

Why would you want to underclock?

I am curious

[atomic lichen]

so i can play at playable framerates and not 20ish

[wintry lark]

You'd have to solder the modchip though

[uncut storm]

Wouldn't that overclock?

[atomic lichen]

tldr better stick with emulation , suffer through unplayable framerates or HW mod whole device

[uncut storm]

I ask honestly, i don't know

[stark cape]

Why is it called underclocking when you're making the SoC run harder

[wintry lark]

I mean you also get the full library AFAIK so I'd say it's worth it

[regal quail]

Nah, even if this thing (somehow, since honestly even at a ridiculous price I still can’t see that ruining this thing for some people, so it would really have to try) ends up being a disaster launch, all you’ll need to do is give it a couple months and people will go right back to acting like Anbernic never did anything wrong.

[atomic lichen]

tbh no idea 😄 ... probably you underclock one part so more power is pushed elsewhere

[atomic lichen]

damn ... cheapest i found locally was twice that

[vocal loom]

I was joking cause people were making a disagreement over credits, something completely unrelated

[regal quail]

…Which is arguably also like Retroid Chat, so nevermind, that’s actually an apt comparison.

[vocal loom]

Yeah I was gonna say people went from never preorder retroid to preorder immediately asap lol. I get tariffs effect it but the switch up is super funny

[lapis moat]

Underclocking means it's doing less work and requires less power. Less power translates to less heat, which prevents power throttling. Generally not a huge factor in these active-cooled devices like this but can help in long run

[stark cape]

So...lower power equals better performance?

That sounds really weird

But I guess the Switch's cooling mustn't be very good

[vocal loom]

Often it's cause you don't need full clocks. So you lower it, so you need less cooling, and cause you need less cooling you can run more efficiently longer/indefinitely, instead of boosting and then thermal throttling iirc

[atomic lichen]

from what i understood you underclock the cpu so gpu has access to more power

• iirc here is some "powersaving" stuff nintendo does in handheld mode

[regal quail]

Yup, and meanwhile people are begging for Anbernic to hurry up and release the thing when Anbernic’s the company that will only fix things in a silent revision and never actually try to make first batch issues right (Cube being the exception that proves the standard since even that was just them sending screens with the same exact light bleed issues if not worse).

In the end, it’s pretty much just people being biased solely towards devices they think are cool.

[ionic hornet]

Fuck retroid

All my homies hate retroid

[uncut storm]

Fascinating

[vocal loom]

You still got the preorder?

[ionic hornet]

Yes

[vocal loom]

Lol

[regal quail]

See what I mean?

[atomic lichen]

its ultimately just "new gadget goes brrrrr" mentality + the tarrif panic from US folk

[orchid beacon]

Ooh can’t wait to see the other device they are pegging for a may release

[ionic hornet]

Why would you peg a handheld

[regal quail]

Honestly, I think a better statement would legit just be “it’s easy to boycott something when you wouldn’t have been interested in it in the first place, but it’s a lot harder to do so for something you actually think is cool”.

[uncut storm]

They really can play anything...

[orchid beacon]

Why wouldn’t you

[ionic hornet]

Fair enough

[wintry lark]

Who says the handheld can't peg you

[vocal loom]

Tbf, me personally, the 557 should mostly be improved 556, so I really don't need reviews/user reports. I pretty much know what I'm getting here

[uncut storm]

Put some pants on that thing

[atomic lichen]

i have been constant back and forth on switch .... had my own multiple times including lite ..... but never really kept it and dont really have the skills to do soldering myself
Ultimately only games i really want to play there are Xenoblade and Bayonneta sequels .. with maybe Mario Xcom
Base unmodded switch runs so many games at framerates i dont deem playable (drops to 20ish), the ergo of both switches literally hurts my hands (so would need to buy some additional alternative) .... was kinda hoping to skip and just do switch 2 .... but ultimately noped the fuck out after the recent reveal ..... so still conflicted .... and for now will remain with either borrowing from neignor or emu

[ionic hornet]

Jokes on you I’m into that stuff

[ionic hornet]

I know where my tax return is going

[vocal loom]

At least then you'll know for sure which you want lol

[crude mango]

I want that sega version someone posted with the 406 screen

[ruby skiff]

out of here with your reasonable suggestions 😛

[ionic hornet]

Indeed

People will pay top dollar for a 2nd hand retroid, with the illusion of quality and all

[ruby skiff]

main thing for me will be controls

[vocal loom]

Ok super quick. Personally people are fucking smoking on one for used prices they pay. Imo, I'm not buying a used electronic, even if it was barely opened for anything more than like 70% msrp

[ionic hornet]

I mean it depends on the device and the demand for me

I remember selling my 405V for like $50

[wintry lark]

I buy a lot of my electronics used or refurbished tbh. Just need to find a reputable seller really

[ionic hornet]

But my barely used Odin 2 mini pro for like $300

[vocal loom]

Oh I'm not faulting sellers/prices. Sell for whatever you want if someone buys. More that I don't understand paying that much used

If you get it refurbished from a manufacturer with a warranty then I'd pay more

[wintry lark]

Yeah the used prices for retroid are pretty crazy, I think part of that might be from people buying them on the dropshipper websites and thinking they can sell that much too

[lofty prairie]

Account for shipping + tax

[rancid pond]

Like the RP mini. If you did not buy directly from retroid.

[lofty prairie]

"think they can sell for" - the rp5 listings sell near instantly on this discord

[ionic hornet]

I can see paying 90% msrp for a device that came out in the last month, but I also don’t sell to make a profit, I usually sell at a pretty steep discount to people that are new to the hobby

[wintry lark]

I'm not talking about this discord

There's pretty fair prices here

[lofty prairie]

i'd argue you're seeing listings that don't sell

[warm wyvern]

Society if we had the RP5 chip on the 406H shell

[wintry lark]

Just talking about what I see on ebay

[lofty prairie]

there are listings in this discord you know won't sell

and yea ebay buyers stupid you just need one sucker i guess

[ionic hornet]

Gotta walk the line between “recouping the cost” and “practically giving it away for free”

[lofty prairie]

it's either that or there's some ebay gift card shenanigans

[wintry lark]

Though tbh ebay is a bit of mess for handhelds in general, retroid or not

There's not as much of a standard msrp for some of these things so people can run wild

Anyway I hope this is around $200

[ionic hornet]

I imagine it will be

Isn’t it rumored to be around $205?

[wintry lark]

Yeah I think so

[lapis moat]

Prob 205 early bird, 215 retail

[warm wyvern]

230 retail
The 556 goes for $200 on Ali and it won't be the same price

[lapis moat]

Ali isnt official prices

[wintry lark]

Tbf I think it's like $180 on their official website

[lapis moat]

its 185 retail, right now on sale for 175

[wintry lark]

I can't believe I went from hating on this thing to now kind of wanting it

[warm wyvern]

I want the V variant so i can play GC on a gameboy tbh
I am hoping they will revamp the 405V colors

[lapis moat]

406v already does that but sure

[stark cape]

Can 406v do F-Zero GX?

I had thought that it still couldn't play the more intensive games perfectly

[lapis moat]

Runs it well

[ionic hornet]

Yes it can

[ruby skiff]

ahhh i wish our UK folks did that 😄 used uk prices on stuff is highhh

[ionic hornet]

This is untweaked too

I’m told there’s various tweaks to boost performance even further

[warm wyvern]

Yes but i want new shiny thing

[vocal loom]

I had it at about 97-99% at 1.5x

For most people it would be perfect

[stark cape]

Wow that's pretty good

I don't even mind running most stuff at native lol

[stark cape]

The 406 enjoyers are going to kill me

[vocal loom]

Native is fine on a screen meant for it. For gcn and above, on a newer screen, I need even 1.5x upscaling to clean up the image

[ionic hornet]

Feel our Pain is such a bop

[warm wyvern]

Could care less either.
Of course , it's nice to do it but it's not a turn off for me.
If the performance is there who cares ?

[ionic hornet]

This video alone makes me want the 557 so bad

[warm wyvern]

406 has a 720p small screen it runs ok in native tbh
I can see why the 556 may not look so cool though

[lapis moat]

widescreen gecko codes baby

[rancid pond]

You look like Jason Graves from YouTube

[ionic hornet]

What the fuck

I do

[radiant meadow]

Lmao but shout out to him tho

[wintry lark]

I haven't been around for that many anbernic launches, how long does it usually take for them open orders after announcements

[lapis moat]

Bout 2 weeks

[radiant meadow]

2 weeks

[lapis moat]

Well, more specifically like 2 weeks form the first teaser, prob a week from the full showcase

[ionic hornet]

2 weeks ish

[wintry lark]

So they should be taking orders roughly by next week then

That works out

[ruby skiff]

yeah, no retroid cockteases stretched out over weeks here 😄

[rancid pond]

Most the time they ship with in 48 hours of the order. Sometimes they will do a week preorder stuff. Noting to level that Retroid does.

[ionic hornet]

They don’t take orders till they actually have units to ship

[rancid pond]

They have done some preorder stuff in the past. It like a week and nothing get delayed.

[warm wyvern]

They don't do preorders , they usually have it ready to go on their website and ali

Le preordeux is a retroid thing

[rancid pond]

They have on some of their handhelds in the past. They don't do all the time

[orchid beacon]

Man this is tempting! But a more powerful 407v sounds even more appealing

[stark cape]

I kinda hope they make it look less bulbous this time lol

[alpine bronze]

Ig since we don't have much else to wonder about

Do we know the spec of the 3.5mm port

[ionic hornet]

My best guess is that it supports headphones

[alpine bronze]

Lol

[radiant meadow]

Just supports headphones

Nothing surprised

[uncut storm]

Typical audio jack

[alpine bronze]

dang, we have nothin left to talk about then sorta

[lapis moat]

Good

[snow kestrel]

But was it comfy? I'll take bulbous if comfy

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jocko-wilink-tactical-military-gif-18312593

[stark cape]

Supposedly very comfy

[uncut storm]

I guess there's little to discuss until first look videos pop

[warm wyvern]

We can talk about emulation with that chip in the meantime

[snow kestrel]

Or wildly speculate about how much it flexes

[uncut storm]

I mean, until actual tests are made we don't really know. Looking for 8300 ps2 emulation videos on yt, things seem smooth

[warm wyvern]

Since he's using a controller with a cooling system , this is literally the 557
https://youtu.be/WVMgV0738fc?si=8YM4utzKXMcjvzP3

[uncut storm]

Battery life could also be quite nice between the chip and 5500ma

[minor wharf]

Do we know where Cheeto Steve is? @signal cedar @hazy solstice We need to keep Steve away from this one.

[uncut storm]

The video is an ultra, don't know how much difference wil.be

[minor wharf]

This looks pretty powerful if it runs like the phone in the video.

[warm wyvern]

That's the Poco X6 Pro , this one has the D8300 , i think the Ultra is another Dimensity
The Poco X6 is a Snapdragon

[storm gull]

"Have you try making a makeshift glasses for your eyes?" /s

[warm wyvern]

Same chip , RAM , Android 14 and he's using a cooler so we can assume it's pretty much the 557.
I am curious about WiiU on it because Cemu released an updated version

[storm gull]

Honestly, playing PS2 and GC games on a Cube isn't that bad.

[warm wyvern]

I like the form factor ; it's me who doesn't like 1:1 😂

[minor wharf]

3ds with Azahar I hope would be good on this.

[wintry lark]

It should be good I think, azahar has better compatibility with mali iirc

[storm gull]

May not be ideal for some but for the weird ones who like to play games in a different perspective, playing PS2 and GameCube games on the Cube can be a interesting time.

[warm wyvern]

Haven't ised Azahar yet , i need to install it
I was playing Metroid Samus Returns and kept using Lime lol

[storm gull]

Now trying to play PS games on a RG28XX, that's something else.

[long chasm]

That bad is it

[minor wharf]

Azahar lets you turn off one side of the 3d rendering which makes it run better.

[lapis moat]

Of course it would

[uncut storm]

Wasn't that option in lime?

I need to try luigi's mansion 2 on azahar, it was awful to emulate, and on real hardware it had pretty unstable framerate.

[vocal loom]

It will run better

[uncut storm]

What makes you think so?

[vocal loom]

Fans

[uncut storm]

(Honest question)

Oh

[warm wyvern]

The video has a fan too
The controller i meant

[vocal loom]

A fan on the controller? Or?

[uncut storm]

An internal fan might do more

[vocal loom]

Much more, they go to a heat sink on the chip

I'm not sure external fans actually do much lol

[warm wyvern]

I meant that the controller he's using has a fan 😂

[uncut storm]

Yeah

Blowing air into the backplate doesn't feel like much

Hum, did not know dante's inferno on psp had 40fps limit

That's super unique for the time lol

[signal cedar]

He was in China with his step nan last I heard

She was working in the PK factory

I hope he's alright

[minor wharf]

Cheeto Steve is one of the hardest working people in the handheld game.

[snow kestrel]

Eh. Depends. Phones are built to dissipate heat through the body. Cooling applied to the body does more than say blowing a fan onto a laptop with its internal fans off

[ionic hornet]

A cheat for it has existed for ages

It differed per game tho

[uncut storm]

That's interesting!

[snow kestrel]

Yeah. There's not a lot of internal space to trap heat

Now directly cooling the chips will always do better

[uncut storm]

I know of a couple cheats. So now it's a simple setting? That's great

[ionic hornet]

Yup

[snow kestrel]

But like even for wireless charging, ones that include fans will get much less heat and much better charging performance

But yeah. It "should" still be better than a telescope with fan on phone

[warm wyvern]

WiiU on the PocoX6 Pro

https://youtu.be/FePLLkC-teM?si=sWWkeEQOjglB7iSX

[uncut storm]

Hmmm

[warm wyvern]

MK8 with some drivers would be so good lol

[uncut storm]

Pretty interesting

[vocal loom]

Again, personally I'd recommend getting this device strictly for PS2/gcn/Wii. At least until we have it in hands and others can verify more lol

[wintry lark]

I'm going to emulate bloodborne and you can't stop me

[vocal loom]

Ehh people can push it, nobody's stopping them, but it's my recommended use case

[uncut storm]

Gc/wii/ps2 is my current end of the line for "i want it to work well" anything on top is just an awesome extra.

Up to that point we're talking thousands and thousands of playable games,

Upscaled x2 already makes a great difference for those games, so if they can go above that, cool.

[warm wyvern]

We've been wishing for GC for so long that when they finally released a chip that could play it , it also brought Wii along the bundle and tackled Switch as a bonus. Now i want to experiment with Switch in those devices , and even though i know it won't run RDR2 in there , it's nice to have stuff like MK8 and DK Tropical Freeze running ok.

[uncut storm]

Tropical freeze would be ace

And dkcr on emulation can look a lot better than on original hardware as it was one of those "fake 16:9 only games"

On that video sm3dw also runs well, which is neat

But again until i can see how the actual 557 runs, this is just a curiosity to me

Which reminds me, on gbatemp since some months ago, a whole bunch of cheats were made to give classic controller support to a good amount of games

Could be very handy to play them on these things

[vocal loom]

Ayo hold up anbernic with about 7-10 devices coming?

They're back in business lol

[uncut storm]

Sounds like too many to me

[warm wyvern]

In 2 weeks we'll see the reviews and benchmarks , Gamma wants to work on an OS for it as well.

[uncut storm]

Oh

[warm wyvern]

We all missed them though 😂

[uncut storm]

I heard about a gammaos on reddit but i don't know of any detail

What is like?

[warm wyvern]

I never used it but it pushed the performance of the T618 in the 405 line

[vocal loom]

The reason for that was specifically cause it ported the drivers retroid found

Gamma isn't expecting to boost the 556 chip as much for example

[narrow eagle]

it basically gave the anbernic handhelds the drivers retroid used, which gave it a performance boost, it also cleaned up the os, added a battery saving mode which was sick,

other stuff i forget…

[vocal loom]

There's other benefits to gamma like battery modes

I only mention that cause gamma himself would agree to not expect a huge perf boost with the 6 chip serious

Or likely most other things he works on

[uncut storm]

That sounds fantastic, holy smokes

[warm wyvern]

Now with custom drivers the 8300 would be really , really good tbh

[uncut storm]

Giving it the retroid drivers sounds quite big

[vocal loom]

If the 557 comes with meh drivers and you can find a phone that had better drivers, basically that would be the scenario where gamma would very much improve it

[uncut storm]

That's exciting

Where i can read about news like that?

[warm wyvern]

Tbf that's not impossible

[lapis moat]

He needs a boot unlocker first before being able to even start working

[uncut storm]

Ah

[lapis moat]

That's always been the giant gatekeep he runs into

[uncut storm]

So most handhelds stay without these custom os right?

[lapis moat]

Most androids, yeah

[warm wyvern]

I can be wrong but i believe the SD865 , 888 and Gen 2 are the only ones that enjoy that so far
888 is too hot also and not very suitable for emulation

[vocal loom]

With cooling it would likely be fine

The edge stays ok with a pretty dog shit cooling fan and that's an 888+ equivalent

But it isn't really worth as a step between the 865 and the sd8gen2

Imo there's not a worthwhile upgrade there till the gen2

[uncut storm]

But that's a huge price increase, going from 865 to that I suppose

[warm wyvern]

The 865 is fine tbh
Does everything up until the PS2 and you can tackle some Switch and Winlator on it.
It "should" be the midrange emulation today

[uncut storm]

Didn't say the opposite

[stark cape]

So how does this chipset compare in terms of power efficiency to the SD8 Gen 2

[uncut storm]

Winlator is for any windows game?

[stark cape]

Mainly asking because the battery isn't that much bigger than the Odin 2 Mini

[uncut storm]

Like, could I run my copy of... let's say outrun 2006?

[radiant meadow]

Man I remember those days people Want a device that can do ps2 and gc and wii now it's deja vu

What a time

Good times

[uncut storm]

Yeah, that's something I can't get out of my mind, it was a pipedream back then and now some people are like "whatever"

Things have changed a lot

[daring hamlet]

Pray that the android rom isnt hot garbage

[crude mango]

dunno

it's 4nm so it shouldn't draw more than the rp5 when playing the same games

if anything it should draw less if the cpu gov isn't shit

[radiant meadow]

That's I'm saying I remember community had to Google list of what games can run on t618

[regal quail]

So, whenever Gamma gets a unit and works his magic?

[crude mango]

yeah honestly any handheld with gammaOS is gonna have better battery life than any handheld running a lowest bidder stock OS from retroid or anbernic.

personally can't wait for gamma lite on the 406v

[vocal loom]

Can't wait for this to become the best device in the price bracket 👀

[trail elbow]

If it gets those custom drivers I can see that

[swift lava]

Use azahar plus. The changes made to azahar were likely to protect the project from Nintendo's wrath.

[swift lava]

Rah super sp

[humble dust]

its to troll american consumers because of the tariffs.

so

wait a second

the joysticks won't be real analogs?

like the 406V/H ?

[lapis moat]

For the 5984736th time

They are not sticks anbernic has ever used

They are new capacitive sticks

[humble dust]

you mean like they still feel like the old ones but with the higher precision?

[lapis moat]

that is not what i mean at all, no

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tien-awesome-fkin-tien-shinhan-cool-tien-edit-gif-7171693473668315713

[humble dust]

explain pls

[lapis moat]

They are new sticks, that they have never used in any of their other devices

So they will not feel like any of their other devices

Idk how much clearer that can get

[humble dust]

I thought it was just like the old ones but without the cardinal swap problem

[lapis moat]

That is incorrect

[ionic hornet]

does seem more like the 556 sticks to me

but who knows maybe they just reused the old render

[humble dust]

• precise rg556 sticks

[lapis moat]

They specifically stated they are brand new capacitive motion sticks. They are not the same lol

Are you trolling me right now or

[ionic hornet]

why so angry

[lapis moat]

Just because it vaguely looks the same doesnt mean anything

[ionic hornet]

that's what I'm thinking

[vocal loom]

Honestly they look like 3ds sliders

[ionic hornet]

after using the 406 sticks i wouldn't mind the older sticks just more presice

[warm wyvern]

I remember that guy Lee saying that the 557 took 4 months to be realeased because of logistics with these sticks , they wanted something better.
The Hall sticks used in the 406V/H are great tbh , if these are better than it's one of the high points of this device

[tribal meadow]

I just hope the stick cap doesn't come off anymore.

[vocal loom]

I honestly want more cardinal snapping

[lapis moat]

Why wouldn't you want more customization tho

[vocal loom]

Give me a second dpad

[tribal meadow]

Too many 406V users breaking theirs.

[ionic hornet]

they pop off way too easily

[lapis moat]

lol

[humble dust]

I love to play the old castlevania platformers that way xD

keeps me from wasting hearts

[warm wyvern]

And more false diagonals on the dpad , wouldn't mind some ghost touches on the screen either
The worse the better

[humble dust]

and even the rg556 d-pad

[vocal loom]

And honestly

Give me the RP5 layout

[humble dust]

you get false diagonals on the rg556 d-pad?

LOL

[snow kestrel]

Hell yeah. This man knows what's up

[vocal loom]

Don't even need triggers

Or shoulder buttons

At all

[warm wyvern]

No lol I was trolling because he wants cardinal snapping lol

[wintry lark]

I dont really think we need a screen either actually, just use ar glasses

[vocal loom]

E ink

[snow kestrel]

Haptic feedback only

I just wanna feel the levels

[humble dust]

the rg556 d-pad is perfect for those who want precision

[warm wyvern]

And only powerful enough for NES , there's tons of games in the library and we don't need anything more

[tribal meadow]

The h700 channels are two blocks down.

[warm wyvern]

The 556 Dpad ---- > the 406 dpad

[humble dust]

never tried the disk one

[warm wyvern]

I hate those arrows engraved on the dpad , it's a smug magnet

[snow kestrel]

Yeah. Smug bastards. I know which way is left

[humble dust]

maybe I'll get the 407m this year just to try the disk d-pad

or cube

[warm wyvern]

I hope they release a 407V

[cunning garden]

I will confirm here, the D-Pad and sticks are different to RG556

with the engineering sample I tried anyway

I won’t say how different as they are still work in progress, likely what end users will get will be tweaked further from what I tried

[humble dust]

the d-pad feels different?

[warm wyvern]

Which color did you like the most ? Seeing them in person is so different from videos / renders

[cunning garden]

yes, RG556 and RG557 sample I tried had different dpads

[humble dust]

whooa

[cunning garden]

I think white, but I generally don’t like transparent myself

my rank

white rg557
black rg556
transparent rg557
transparent rg556

the colour tint is quite subtle on rg557

could be mistaken for transparent black

[warm wyvern]

The White one has more of a gaming console vibe imo as well

[humble dust]

transparent rg556 is still my fav.

[cunning garden]

but it’s more clear/see through than anbernics transparent black products

[cunning garden]

yes, they told me it was the more popular choice

[warm wyvern]

I noticed in the picture that the purple is quite dark too maybe it's the pcb they used

[snow kestrel]

Think I'd go white. On something bulbous it just feels right

[humble dust]

I wonder if the d-pad+joystick reviews will persuade me to buy 1

[tribal meadow]

I think the white is missing grey labels on buttons.

[warm wyvern]

White bezels also

[crude mango]

The whole gamepad feels like gba sp style domes too

I actually quite like the lite for dpad centric games that still need the sticks to be present for the occasional thing

[vocal loom]

Honestly didn't think this would be real

[mild jungle]

It's just like a traditional controller, but the sticks are replaced by dpads when you think about it

[uncut storm]

For all the virtual boy fans

[crude mango]

I have one

I actually like it for some stuff

[uncut storm]

If nothing else the extra buttons can be nice for hotkeys and such

[prisma seal]

Sounds like an intro to a bad adult movie 😹

[ionic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/ram-ranch-dante-gif-17928797641371636494

[uncut storm]

The Fucking Country Music: A David Decoteau film

Man I forgot how funny that guy's movie covers look

[vocal loom]

From earlier, I

i'd take the enhanced version

[uncut storm]

I guess it depends on the mood you prefer. The older one is darker, more lonely, more basic, but atmospheric in a way.

The other kinda feels like the snow comes with its own rgb gamer leds to me.

Whenever a game gets a visual change on a remaster it becomes a very annoying conversation

Because there are many ways to look at it,

Not necessarily wrong ones

[wintry lark]

The MCC remasters are fantastic imo, how many remasters give you option to freely switch between old and new graphics? AFAIK there are technically some differences in the old graphics compared to the original but those are mostly nitpicks

[uncut storm]

Yes there are differences between original ones and the "old version" of the remaster

It'd be pretty hard to be the exact same

[vocal loom]

I'm really really really hoping the Gears series gets a full remaster, as I loved the gears 1 remaster, and going back to 2 after is rough lol

[uncut storm]

I don't touch one of those since the 360 days, how time flies

[rocky nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0KneWeCS8iY?feature=share
what it feels like to look at the rg557

Anbernic is the girl with 10 hairdyes fighting for dominance, traumadumping all over you because your new bestie, Retroid, is their ex

[uncut storm]

I fear to hear what character Powekiddy plays in that fanfic

[narrow eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/barcelona-chair-turntable-spin-comfort-gif-12659490

or some weird stray cat

[placid condor]

Powkitty 🐾

[fickle belfry]

Watch them shock the retro handheld community to its core by dropping an RG ARC-7 and an RG507F(lip) at the same time.

[warm wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[uncut storm]

So looking it up, the 8300 ultra from those phones, the only difference I read was that the ultra had some new features for camera's ISP... and that's it

[warm wyvern]

Yes i checked that too , it gets confusing. I thought the X6 was the SD one , but the 5 has a SD and the X6 line is Mediatek 🫠

[uncut storm]

Yeah, between names and specs is easy to confuse yourself

So the video could be more accurate than I would expect

I have really got tired of tech naming conventions.

I imagined ultra would be a souped up 8300

[ruby skiff]

i thought that too

[spiral sonnet]

Same same but different

Different in name only

[wary tiger]

At least they are the same, compared to something like a dimensity 7300 being actually worse than a 7200 in all but one scenario.

[uncut storm]

Seriously? Please explain

The snapdragon 888 was on a similar situation against 865

[swift lava]

I need d8300 super sp

With kbase panfrost on the horizon

Esp since it's one generation away from development

Apparently only the mali gpus with rk35 chips of them are vulkan compliant

[wary tiger]

You can check reviews for cmf phone with 7300 (which is often compared to nothing 2a with 7200). Basically the only win for the 7300 is all cores cpu benchmark, but only a small advantage. Single thread, GPU etc all is worse.

[swift lava]

I hope arm fynds panfrost well

@zealous ridge has an 8300

[wintry lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562670802613305364/1361897567239143625/clideo_editor_b8bbea354b6343b1b7a7e2c5bf14daab-ezgif.com-optimize_3.gif

[swift lava]

Bcn support being added to the list of delusions is crazy

[uncut storm]

Interesting, i will check it out after eating

[vocal loom]

It's looking more and more that these guys aren't gonna make my cutoff lol

[stark cape]

God that video of Sean(?) stepping on the shell is so fucking good

[ruby skiff]

wut? 😄

[vocal loom]

American lol, so I have a mental cutoff before buying one of these bones me with tariffs

[ruby skiff]

ah 😂 fair enough then xD

for any handheld now i guess :c

[vocal loom]

Fun times lol, I'll have to buy used off a brave soul if it happens but it is what it is lol

[uncut storm]

well, I hope used prices aren't stupid

last time I looked at wallapop, people were asking 200-290 euros for used rp5s

and it's annoying when you see some of them are just people buying several to sell later there

[orchid beacon]

Wonder what performance we’ll see in Wii U

Be nice to see botw on it!

Does android have Wii U?

[uncut storm]

there's a port of cemu

still betas

[zealous ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ping-gif-15323150284858550332

[rocky nebula]

It 'works', but compatibility is borked in the android version.

I want to see how the rg557 plays Bulletstorm though. It's technically more powerful than the sd870 being used in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E60qdMdEsT0

[warm wyvern]

Bulletsorm will run , the T820 runs it also with low res

[swift lava]

It was a designer

[zealous ridge]

So far my phone has eaten everything I threw at it, the D8300 is pretty capable, 4x on GCN and PS2 should be no issues for most games and if this had better drivers the power would be enough for 6x GCN

[fickle belfry]

I guess we still don't have a real answer on the tariff thing for us Americans. 2X price for an RG557 is going to be out of my range, I'm afraid.

[alpine bronze]

How's Galaxy 2 or Skyward Sword at 4x?

[warm wyvern]

Try out some Switch for us mate

[zealous ridge]

Who in their right mind would bother emulating Wii

[radiant meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/innsarin-inn-sarin-gif-7574782744378092639

[humble dust]

I didn't even knew whata Wii-U was before this

[quaint jolt]

It's the poor man's switch lol

[vocal loom]

I think Friday is max latest I can buy this with comfort lol

[dawn jay]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-grogu-mandalorian-the-gif-19442802

[rocky nebula]

Anyone who still wants to play cod black ops or modern warfare for cheap. Wii had a pretty good catelogue

two amazing rune factory games, driver San Francisco and parallel lines, xenoblade 1, Last story, lost winds 1&2...

If you never play games, you never know how good a system is

[uncut storm]

Were the driver games fun? Never tried them

[timid elk]

Kirby's Epic Yarn, DKC Returns, Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Metroid Prime 3, Sin and Punishment Star Successor, fucking Punch-Out Wii aka the best game ever, Wario Land Shake It, Kirby's Return to Dreamland

Lots of great stuff on the wii

It's a silly console in a fair few ways but it had lots of great games

Can be a pain in the pita bread to emulate though with the motion controls

[uncut storm]

Use a wiimote

It's what I do,

[timid elk]

Retro handheld

[uncut storm]

Ah yeah,

Sorry

[timid elk]

You're good lol, I also just don't feel like buying a bluetooth adapter and sensor bar thingy

[uncut storm]

As I mentioned yesterday there has been efforts to make games playable withbcodes

Hmmm, i don't know in android

[timid elk]

Oh neat! Is there like a forum thread that collects those?

[uncut storm]

Yes

[timid elk]

If they're gecko/AR codes I'd imagine they'd work

[uncut storm]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/new-classic-controller-hacks.659837/

[stark cape]

Wii also has the definitive version of RE4

I'm not talking about the controls

It has pro controller and GCN support

It's the version that all the remasters are based on

[uncut storm]

Re4 wii edition, man, i have beaten that version many times, i even did a Mine Launcher only with the wiimote, most fun i ever had

Excitebots was also really fun, and you can play at 60 frames with dolphin

[stark cape]

Oh god, Mine Launcher

[uncut storm]

Making it even better

[stark cape]

I didn't realise the game would even throw enough ammo at you for that to work

The whole problem with the weapon is that ammo is so rare for it

I guess the drop rates change because it's the only gun you'd use

[uncut storm]

The way the game works, the less ammo you had the more it gave you if I remember, but even then, the challenge and fun for me was learning the best spots to use them and take out as many enemies.

[stark cape]

You'd be right

[uncut storm]

Really fun for a single experimental run

[rocky nebula]

they were cross-platform games. I believe pc, ps2/3, and xbox had releases of those two as well

i know parallel lines is a good.

[uncut storm]

Cool, i'll have to try one day

Rune factory frontier was a time sink for me

I just couldn't stop playing lol

[stark cape]

I hope there's a patch for Bully Scholarship Edition that allows for pro controllers

I don't think Scholarship Edition was on PS2

[uncut storm]

And the wii version was more stable than the 360 from what i remember

As in glitches

[stark cape]

I'm not surprised

Since it'd be closer to the PS2 original

[radiant meadow]

Driver series was underrated

[uncut storm]

Like many games unfortunately

Was the first driver that one game where the tutorial was super hard?

[rocky nebula]

yeah, it was pretty rough on ps1

[uncut storm]

I had a friend that got super salty with that

[radiant meadow]

Bro super annoying

[rocky nebula]

Pro Rally for gamecube is also like that. the tutorial is long and rigorous, and then you get to the actual races and its all easy

[uncut storm]

Oh wait, pro rally... i think i played that one

2002?

[rocky nebula]

yep

[uncut storm]

If it was that one yes i did

I like rally games from time to time, and the tutorial is demanding yeah

[rocky nebula]

it teaches you how to properly gauge speed, break, fishtail, select tires, breaks, and weight distribution... basically gives you a field guide to doing each level without stressing yourself out

[uncut storm]

I remember crashing barrels when turning the most

On the actual rallies i did have fun though

[rocky nebula]

damage-maxing for the win

[uncut storm]

Until you break your lights and don't know where to go

I also played R racing evolution, had rally segments, and a wacky story that I ended up appreciating

[fading oxide]

Gonna add Fatal Frame 4 and the remake of Fatal Frame 2 to the 'awesome wii games' list. That's the first ones I'm going to try once I get a wii capable system, for sure, even if it will take a while to setup the controls.

[wide bison]

i just know how good wii is,it has backward compatibility with gc

[abstract ruin]

I guess tomorrow we get release info, wishful thinking

[crystal sparrow]

Anbernic probably got all their stock being shipped to their US warehouse right now before the tariffs kick in

[wintry lark]

That's awfully hopeful, I hope you're right

[snow kestrel]

Me too man

Me too

[thick sail]

If they're planning on selling them in the US market they have to do something. 245% tariffs means $205 msrp is more than $700.
Rg557 looks cool but not at ally x prices

[quaint jolt]

Don't worry every other handheld is going up by 245% as well

Even playing field lol

[placid condor]

My favorite Wii game is Dead Space: Extraction! I've played through it on both the Odin 2 and RG556, and while it was pretty rough in terms of slow down here and there on the 556 I still loved it lol Muramasa: The Demon Blade is another must play Wii game, and that one actually supports classic controls so it's well suited for play on a retro handheld. ^_^

[ionic hornet]

pokemon battle revolution is the best wii game ever made

[uncut storm]

The wii had a bunch of cool arcade shooters yeah.

One that i found utterly underrated is Samurai Warriors Katana.

Take the concept of arcade shooters and give it a long story mode separated in 4 different campaigns, and a bunch of weapon types (sword, spear, bow, shotgun etc) that each plays very differently. Equipment, special stages with challenges that can give you neat stuff and more.

I was really surprised by how meaty ans solid it was, and that offered a different sort of experience than the usual games in that genre.

If i trusted professional reviewers i would never had give it a chance

And then you have shin and punishment 2, the resident evil ones, ghost squad being super cheesy and fun, house of the dead overkill and more.

Extraction was also a high point

[grave mauve]

is the rg557 screensize/ form factor a good choice for NDS games (like pokemon black/black2 etc games that utilize 2 screens)?

[snow kestrel]

As good as other 5.5 16:9 devices are

Id look at how they perform/look on the rp5

Which makes me realize this is basically an RP5 with better ergos and layout. Which is a banger

[uncut storm]

Yeah.

You could put the screens horizontally, with the touchscreen on the right, so you could use your thumb to select things

It would work for most games that use the touchscreen for menu stuff or info display, but not well for those that have been designed for both screens to show the same thing

You could put them vertically but it would look tiny in comparison

[uncut storm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1k09mzz/hong_kong_suspends_postal_service_to_united_states/

[lunar python]

It's been a good run

[ruby skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[alpine bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/go-leave-me-alone-golden-girls-you-have-to-go-now-rose-gif-22287138

[long chasm]

Release the 557 already

[uncut storm]

Or at least give it to someone to test and show

[zealous ridge]

It's a 556 with more power, why are you guys so set on seeing this thing do anything?

It will outperform the RP5 at the end of the day, vastly in Android games, doing 3-4x on PS2 instead of 2x and WiiU/Switch and Winlator should do at least around as good as that

[warm wyvern]

Not WiiU , the RP5 wins because of drivers support
It will lose in WiiU , Switch and Winlator

[uncut storm]

Why wouldn't i be interested in seeing the performance of a device I have interest in getting?

We can talk and believe it's going to be this or that, but I rather see it working to confirm.

And beyond that, the sticks are different and if I remember the dpad too. The first were one of the downsides of the 556, so there's also interest in what supposed improvements this model has.

While I agree that switch will be a sore sticking point, the fact they used wiiu in the promotional material makes me also curious if they bring that up with confidence because it works well enough or it's just to catch attention.

If this thing had a chip we already saw on previous handhelds obviously it wouldn't be that interesting

[hearty hound]

they show how it perform, and it sucks lol

max ps2

[fading oxide]

How dare people be interested in seeing a device that I personally don't care for? What, do you think this is a server to discuss all retro handhelds or something? /s

[lapis moat]

You guys take ragebait way too easily lol

[radiant meadow]

Superbottle is retired from rg557 now

We lost a solider

[vocal loom]

Lol I'll get one when tariffs aren't an issue

Could be a while

[stark cape]

Who is superbottle

[long chasm]

I just wanna play Batman Begins smh

[uncut storm]

Was that supossed to be ragebait? I wasn't angry, I was just talking

[ruby skiff]

years then 😅

[lapis moat]

2028

[fading oxide]

Or it could be next week, the way things keep changing. Literally no one knows.

Anbernic is also the one company who is somehow able to be sold at regular prices in europe (assuming you don't get it from their site or Ali), unlike retroid and aya that get the customs price up. They must have some good deals with a few exporters. Who knows, they might be able to pull something off in the US too.

[stark cape]

How would you get an Anbernic in Europe outside of their site or Ali?

Also, I didn't have to pay taxes or customs on my RP5

[fading oxide]

Third party sites.

[stark cape]

Didn't get taxed on my Odin 2 Mini either, and I don't expect to pay customs on it either

[zealous ridge]

I mean drivers on the RP5 give it a huge advantage on those for sure, but the D8300 is powerful enough to technically bridge the gap by brute force, at least if stuff ain't straight out refuses to work due to Mali drivers

[lapis moat]

12gb of ram will help as well.

[uncut storm]

So buying from their site is more expensive?

[lapis moat]

Can't speak for EU but it's usually about the same after shipping for US

Like Ali is usually free shipping but slightly higher base price

[fading oxide]

Oh, yep. 30 bucks shipping alone, and almost the same in customs for the country I live in. None of their sales makes it worth it.

Ali charges less for shipping. But I've had 17€ tech stuff from ali get stuck in customs, so not risking anything more expensive.

[crude mango]

I really don’t think you can assume that. The gpu may have worse drivers but it also has 2.5x the power.

Until we actually get proper head to head tests we won’t know anything other than “neither is quite as good as an odin 2”

(This also has 12gb of ram so even if you do get more graphical issues from no turnip drivers it should crash a hell of a lot less with switch)

[uncut storm]

I see... i will need to see my options if I end up wanting it

[uncut storm]

Oh, looking at the anbernic web, they can ship from the EU itself

[zealous ridge]

Just downloaded Cemu 1.7 out of curiosity, will test TWW HD later

Not that I gonna buy the 557 anyway

But heck a 407h may nevertheless be interesting

[thick sail]

407h seems like the right form factor for the chip
557 gets widescreen hacks and psp but with weak switch 16:9 doesn't seem as appealing as 4:3 to me

[oak kernel]

they will definitely come out witha 407h?

[uncut storm]

...557 also gets better ds and 3ds, bigger gba, wonderswan, etc.

16:9 gives you a lot more leeway for wide systems

[lapis moat]

Almost every PS2 and GC game has widescreen available, as well as wii.

This is absolutely a 16:9 chipset

[uncut storm]

The one thing i do wonder is, if with smaller aspect ratios you could get any performance improvement, as there's less resolution

I honestly don't know if that affects anything with these devices

Like lowering the resolution on a pc, i mean

[lapis moat]

I mean if a display is 720p then you physically don't get any benfit upscaling further than 2x so yeah you'd save the effort needed to push

But theres enough overhead here for that to not matter so

[stark cape]

I can't get into this PS2 widescreen convo again lmao

[uncut storm]

I was talking more about the resolution of android

But that's good to know!

[uncut storm]

Bad topic?

[stark cape]

Oh more like we went over it like yesterday

[uncut storm]

Ah

[stark cape]

That true widescreen is a rarity on PS2

At least officially

Games that have "widescreen" generally either crop the 4:3 image into 16:9 and zoom in, or flatten the character models and then widen the image

[uncut storm]

Anamorphic was the most common on those systems

Yes, that is what i talked about the other day

But widescreen hacks might work differently than official widescreen, or at least thanks to upscaling internal res, they might look better than on og hardware

Like crt shaders and 4:3 vs 8:7, they are conv matters i got tired

Let others play the way they like, don't let others tell you how to enjoy games

That's basically my position nowadays

[lapis moat]

Aethersx2 is nice in that enabling the widescreen hack setting will automatically search for an apply any available patches for the game loaded. It's worked perfectly for the 20-odd ps2 titles I've ran on my rp5

[ruby skiff]

How dare you enjoy games the way you wish 😄

[uncut storm]

I am a monster

😩

[thick sail]

I don't mind if other people like playing a different way than I do

So long as they know they're wrong

[uncut storm]

My biggest gripe with widescreen hacks is when you can see elements appear and disappear outside the original 4:3 viewpoint

I see no reason to use the hack if that happens

But some games do benefit, like gotcha force for the gc, the extra vision is really helpful as that game can be very chaotic

[lapis moat]

Only time ive run into that so far was for Paper Mario TTYD. Tinkered for days but just couldn't prevent it

[long chasm]

We’ll have to wait for Russ and ForTheNext/Zu&Joey

Sorry that reply only posted now had no internet lol

[ruby skiff]

going to be super tempting

[uncut storm]

Did they say they'll receive a 557?

[long chasm]

They will get one asap it won’t be any different to their other products routine

Usually forthenext gets his hands on it asap

[uncut storm]

By no means i wanted to imply it was super common, just that can happen and it's super distracting to me

[long chasm]

Sometimes retro Ryan or retro handhelds Stubbs n Zu

[uncut storm]

Cool

[long chasm]

Most of the time usually forthenext from my experience and he’ll take on requests on the stream and actually see the chat

[lapis moat]

forthenext streams are a ton of fun, very interactive

[long chasm]

https://youtube.com/@forthenext?si=_3uiNnL41mtNMJzO

Ya

[uncut storm]

I'll bookmark it

Did.not know that channel

[zealous ridge]

I still don't think it will perform worse than the RP5 on that

[thick sail]

Really I just like the look of the 406h and want to use the new chip to justify it

[humble dust]

when are we going to see the 1st RG557 reviews?

[warm wyvern]

I think they already shipped the review units

[zealous ridge]

Would rather have the 405m upgraded tbh

Naturally with analog triggers

[night briar]

1080p 60Hz OLED display as per RG556

[lapis moat]

What are you talking about

[night briar]

Same as you, what's topic's name ?

[lapis moat]

Read the other messages around mine, there's context. The question was about lower resolution screens like the 4 inch ones.

[night briar]

oki kwaki

can i call you Kwakiful Joe ?

[lapis moat]

Can't stop you

[uncut storm]

Henshin a go go, baby

[long chasm]

Oooh teasin me

[lapis moat]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[tribal brook]

For those from the USA that want to buy retroconsoles from chinese companies... you need to find a reseller from other country (canada/mexico) with much lower tariffs ... its the only way to have something but with lower impact by this stupid tariff war.

[zealous ridge]

Where is your patriotism? Pay your 245% tariffs 🫡

[signal cedar]

Review units here, working on just a quick unboxing for tonight, Zu will have a full first look vid tomorrow-ish (depending on the HK shipping stuff)

If there's extra time this weekend after the Retroid Classic rush, then I can maybe do a 557 Livestream also

Gotta love the timing here 😂

And then you'll see full reviews and content from our team on the 557, Classic, and Flip 2 in the coming days

[lapis moat]

Ok whew we have movement. Thx Stubbs

[uncut storm]

I'll have an eye open for dem deets

[signal cedar]

Both colors

[lapis moat]

Sweet jesus, and we thought that gucci bag for the 556 was fugly

[desert lotus]

I actually kinda like it 😅

The bag

[snow kestrel]

I actually love that bag. Lol

[uncut storm]

A bit gaudy for me, but if it protects, it protects

[snow kestrel]

Def gaudy. Gamer gaudy

[desert lotus]

Nice it is not a block and is kinda form fitting

[snow kestrel]

Id feel awkward putting a $500 Ayaneo in it. But $200 or less, let's have some fun

[lapis moat]

New box design with the silver foil, nice

[uncut storm]

By the way, the paper said it comes with a protector, i imagine it's a plastic film?

[lapis moat]

Probably their usual tempered glass protector

[uncut storm]

Ah wow

That's great lol

[drifting summit]

The McAnbernic

[lapis moat]

Like how hard is it to just make it black lol they had to go out of their way to choose those colors

[drifting summit]

It's theft deterrent, I would not assume anything in there would be worth stealing

[lunar python]

RH reviews on 557, Classic, and Flip 2 in the coming days

[placid condor]

I like the case! It looks like it's ready to take to a beach party for summer fun in the sun! 🏝️

[wintry lark]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-mcdonalds-ronald-mean-slap-gif-19692185

[radiant meadow]

Way better than gucci case

Also that's quick

[snow kestrel]

personally i like bright colored cases, i forget/lose it less

[radiant meadow]

@signal cedar try to do streaming on rg557 for me

[zealous ridge]

your newest Happy Meal toy?

[tight cape]

hot dium you schedule is packed

have you considered pulling an all nighter this weekend? 😂

but seriously I feel like of all upcoming the rg557 is the most intriguing right now so a quick look would be awesome

[signal cedar]

Many of my nights are all nighters, I have a full time day job and family etc, so I fit RH in where I can. Saturday is usually no work or RH day, except for this weekend, and any big launch weekends. 😆

[lapis moat]

They didn't happen to disclose an estimated date of ordering go-live did they

[crude mango]

disagree

but luckily I bet the 557 still fits in the gucci case for the 556

[radiant meadow]

Anbernic should do more fun case 🤣🤭

[wintry lark]

Not like this though

There's gotta be a middle ground between Gucci ripoff and McDonald's

[lapis moat]

Bright colors are fun, but not THESE colors

[thick sail]

I like it, you definitely won't lose it while it's in the case

[radiant meadow]

Rah so they should do boring case with their logo now

Old boring basic

[long chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-yeah-oh-yeah-yes-hell-yes-gif-21504886

[snow kestrel]

Last thing i need is a black zipper case. Can't even tell them apart anymore

[zealous ridge]

black is the only color these bags should have

[ionic hornet]

Gimme Gucci or gimme death

[zealous ridge]

not like the 556 bag wouldn't fit

bet aside from the pcb it's the same damn thing

[lapis moat]

Lol what are you guys lab rats that need to see color coded doors or you can't tell which one has the cheese?

[ionic hornet]

That’s exactly right

[zealous ridge]

you should be able to sniff which handheld is in which case

[ionic hornet]

Well I can but

Eye candy

[zealous ridge]

rejected

[snow kestrel]

We don't have to all be cool edgy people wearing black leather with black cases from the matrix

[zealous ridge]

yeah, not gonna go with the Matrix look if I wear black leather

[snow kestrel]

Your more into the test tube baby cosplay? That's cool, that's cool

[zealous ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/kroenen-karl-gif-24946013

[snow kestrel]

Yeah. German bondage fetish. I get it. Zee spankin

Makes sense you need black game cases then

No German dandy will take you seriously without one 😉

[zealous ridge]

exactly

[tight steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-what-the-hell-what-jimmy-butler-gif-58968043238088575

[snow kestrel]

He's a zesty guy. What can I say

But I'm glad our Anbernic overlords blessed us with some color

For these nostalgia toys from childhood

[thorn garden]

https://tenor.com/view/farscape-farscape-friday-farscape-tv-scifi-tv-show-scifi-tv-gif-14070889

[snow kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/sprockets-german-pop-80-kraftwerk-gif-15555722

[vocal loom]

Sadly it's taking so long for them to get to even ship notice, likely too late for a lot of Americans, but should be amazing for other countries!

[snow kestrel]

I mean hopefully they're warehousing

[vocal loom]

Hopefully but holy smokes if that was the case, Chinese companies would retain the title of worst communicators

[wintry lark]

https://anbernic.com/pages/shipping-policy

[snow kestrel]

Pretty sure that's an auto trophy for them

Retroid having Chris is like the best communication we've ever had from any of them. Outside maybe MagicX

[zealous ridge]

okay, either I'm doing something horribly wrong or CEMU still requires a SD SoC to work at all

so much for Wii U emulation on this

[river parrot]

No, you’re not. Cemu is much better with Snapdragon which is still limited

[zealous ridge]

I mean... much better is one thing, the games not even starting up is kind of a heavy hit

[warm wyvern]

We were talking about that yesterday.
I wish it wasn't the case but Mediatek sadly lacks for the higher end stuff. I really hope it can benefit from drivers one day

[zealous ridge]

honestly didn't expect it to be that bad, it's not like Switch emulators just don't work on Mali drivers, but CEMU is still pretty early soo welp

[warm wyvern]

Yeah man , it sucks because the SOC has the power to emulate some WiiU better than the the SD865 , the problem is the fine tuning that chip doesn't have

[signal cedar]

video filmed

editing started, might be very late but it should be out tonight

there's some interesting decisions on this one

[river parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/dayum-dayum-son-damn-damn-son-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-12213344

[river parrot]

yes, I agree

[drifting summit]

That's not the greatest sign

[narrow eagle]

is the software the same, etc

[narrow eagle]

cemu worked on the 556 kinda

[signal cedar]

3.5X in GOW2 is very nice

[signal cedar]

just little joysticks, kind of comical so the mcdonalds case pairs well

[narrow eagle]

just get smaller thumbs smh

[river parrot]

I call them baby's first analog sticks

[signal cedar]

they feel and work great though

[narrow eagle]

wait are the sticks smaller than the 556

[signal cedar]

no cardinal snapping!

[oak kernel]

ayyyy

[signal cedar]

yes smaller than 556

[oak kernel]

thats a dub

[signal cedar]

I suggest adding joystick caps

[narrow eagle]

[river parrot]

You can't lol

they're too small

[signal cedar]

smaller than most of their linux handhelds also

[narrow eagle]

super glue

[simple bridge]

isn’t it like $5000 dollars now

[signal cedar]

or 406h

[zealous ridge]

so like the tiny one the Portal came with?

[simple bridge]

Exaggeration, but what is the point man

[river parrot]

Smaller

[signal cedar]

smallest joysticks I have used in a while, similar size to aya micro

[zealous ridge]

[river parrot]

They're hilarious, I can't wait for Zu's reaction

[narrow eagle]

save us ps vita stick caps

[oak kernel]

might crash out

[signal cedar]

they are so recessed I was able to pocket the 557 though

[signal cedar]

ah those should fit!

[river parrot]

Stubbs owns JNCO jeans

[narrow eagle]

are they stupid why are the sticks recessed

[signal cedar]

a little bigger than vita

[oak kernel]

they want it to be more pocketable?

[signal cedar]

I like the handheld overall, and performance is really enticing so far, but just some interesting decisions 😆

[oak kernel]

but i feel like

[narrow eagle]

wait the sticks on the 556 are recessed oh my god monkeys paw moment

[signal cedar]

You'll see

[oak kernel]

whats the point on wanting it to be pocketable

[narrow eagle]

its the same shell, so it would be still recessed

[vocal loom]

Are you saying for caps, actual sticks, range of motion, etc

[river parrot]

I'm in Zu's camp. If you're going with this size, you need to go big or go home. There is absolutely no place for sticks this small on a device like this. It's a big wtf moment.

[signal cedar]

caps

if you had bigger caps you'd limit range of motion

[zealous ridge]

well, spending 5 bucks on bigger caps ain't going to kill it

[signal cedar]

but putting a cap on top shouldn't depending on the type

but the sticks are pretty recessed

very comfy handheld to use regardless