Beyond Good & Evil

[dapper lily]

Had use the cheat at the end

[narrow swift]

Cheat?

[dapper lily]

On the ||last phase of final boss. Your controls are switched. Down is up. Left is right. If change the mapping of controls it will work like regular|| Don't click unless you have trouble with the final boss.

[calm oak]

smart move

[sick copper]

There's a item thing in the closet section of the factory where these roaches take your starkos. Does this do anything or is this just swindling you out of your items

||other than a photo|| I mean

[dapper lily]

I don't think so

[sharp harbor]

Once you learn the pattern it’s not so bad

[dapper lily]

My brain just can't work that way. Tried for half hour before applying

[sharp harbor]

Totally get it. I can usually handle it for a little bit but randomly my brain resets itself and all hell breaks loose

[cosmic vector]

Final finished slaughterhouse - it was a slog. Got 31 pearls as well so I hope moon will be easier to get through

[narrow swift]

I input one of the codes in the computer in the house , and it worked . and tried the other code in the computer next to the pig’s office, and it didn’t work. Do I have the wrong code or the wrong computer ?

[sharp harbor]

Is the office the workshop?

[restive compass]

Wait, I assumed they were unbeatable too until towards the end because I was never able to kill them as a kid, thought they had some weird plot armor or something.

TIL

[sick copper]

I assume I'll have to buy every upgrade from Mamo Garage before the games over, Yes?

like there isn't a reason to skip one to save pearls?

[orchid gate]

Correct

[sick copper]

cool. Jump kit time

[narrow swift]

Yeah workshop

[sharp harbor]

And it’s the hidden computer, not the locker thing, right?

[narrow swift]

And with dirn’s trick they are so easy to kill

[narrow swift]

Definitely not hidden . I’ll keep searching thanks !

[narrow swift]

Hum is it really in the workshop area ? It’s so small I don’t see how there can be a hideout there

[dapper lily]

Look on ||bottom of the shoes. They are different codes||

[sharp harbor]

If you found the computer in the lighthouse, you can find the computer in the workshop

[hexed token]

||pretty sure the photo is the point yeah||

[sharp harbor]

Yep, based on the ||paw print|| on the map, ^^ is correct

[narrow swift]

What’s the deal with the shoes ?? I didn’t even see any goddamn shoes

[sharp harbor]

I’m starting to think you were using the wrong codes

[pallid depot]

The inventory is a bit hard to find. It's in the S.A.C.

[calm oak]

The game does not set you up well for this last puzzle

[pallid depot]

My gripe was that it only found one terminal. The map didn't show where the second was. When I left home, it would indicate to go to home. Once there, there wasn't a location highlight.

[narrow swift]

Thanks for telling me . Good to know that it’s not just me

[marble anchor]

You should find ||Pey’j’s shoes in a locker in the factory||.

[dawn pelican]

I just finished it

The volcano and last level were much quicker than I was anticipating when I woke up early to play today lol

The first half-ish of Slaughterhouse was definitely a drag, but the rest was a good time. First time playing it and I'm glad I finally got the chance

Now I get to suffer with the rest of y'all waiting for the sequel

[sick copper]

Im supposed to go to the slaughter house next

[dawn pelican]

Godspeed

It is a bit of a drag at the start, but wasn't as bad once I got the first pic. The 2nd and 3rd came much quicker

Except me getting lost and having to look up a walkthrough because I missed a spot you could climb

[narrow swift]

Oh now j get it . I didn’t think about it that because :
1-i got those so long ago
2-inventory check up was never a thing in the game
3-they are boots not shoes !!!!

Also : I don’t understand why I had already one code and not the other

[dapper lily]

There is a picture of the boots next to where you input the code. I rotate and look at everything. Must be from playing the Zero Dilemma so much

[narrow swift]

I looked at that picture a lot but didn’t see the code

[dapper lily]

Code in not on the picture. It's just a hint.

[abstract shuttle]

I just got to the ||Slaughterhouse||. Hopefully I’ll be done in time

[pallid depot]

My time that the save point were registering was about 14 hours. Maybe 18hours total for this one after deaths. The pacing is all over. There's puzzles and collectables that can eat time. Just have to sink the time in. A walkthrough may speed it up a bit.

[abstract shuttle]

I haven’t had any problems yet. It’s mostly because I don’t have a lot of time

[cosmic vector]

Beluga acquired and need 3 more pearls to get the final part before going to moon. Just about to go to volcano to get some pearls. Camera and map issues aside I’ve enjoyed this one

[modern hamlet]

🙄

[sick copper]

Been walking around saying outloud "A box of Kbups" for two days now

[sick copper]

I think I'm done with Slaughterhouse. Wasn't all that bad, just kinda tedious stealth sections.
Am I supposed to ||rescue Pey'j here? I couldn't find him no matter what places I went||

[marble anchor]

Nope

[sick copper]

Cool. I assumed so, but didn't want to get like a bad ending if I missed a hidden door or something

Just got the second pearl from hockey disks and the third from the shop. Still like...6 short of a flight stabalizer. I've done 4 races and 4 thief chases.

[narrow swift]

Wow you’re good

[viral jacinth]

Aboutnti get to slaughterhouse

This I'll have time to finish this one even tho iv had a crazy busy month

[sick copper]

Man, the game really says "Hey, we know getting to 55 pearls at this point was not planned out well, so take 15 pearls for smash the A button for 3 minutes

Like I think they clearly wanted the game to last a little bit longer, with a bit more between "flight stabalizer" and "engine." but probably ran out of time/money/etc

[sick copper]

Final boss sucks. Finally beat it after blowing through 14 kbups.
Its not very clear whats going on in terms of like...gameplay feedback

[sick copper]

Overall I liked the game. Glad I squeezed it in.

[cosmic vector]

gulp, i only have like 5 kbups and i just landed on moon

[sharp harbor]

||The last phase is a pattern. You have to hit it once for each place it appears. But it all resets if you get hit.||

[boreal holly]

The final boss and the ending cutscene definitely soured it a little for me

[cosmic vector]

At the final boss and the camera is killing me. I have put it down for now as I can’t beat it

[mellow saffron]

The final boss isn’t too bad really. You can die and it has a few checkpoints built in. It’s a little puzzle-y, but not terrible. Figure out what to do and then you can easily beat it without getting hurt much at all.

[sick copper]

Yeah. Its just not very clear thats happening at the final phase. I ended up stumbling into the right solution and only knowing what it wanted me to do after beat it and looked it up.

At the time for all I knew I just finally did enough damage to it

[sharp harbor]

Yeah, unless you go in looking for a pattern, it can take a long time for it to become apparent what’s happening.

[orchid gate]

I figured it out pretty easy on my own due to the dialog that says something like you’ve lost control or whatever

[sick copper]

I kept getting ||9 apparently in a row and then Id get hit by the vertical attack so it wasnt like I wasn’t naturally doing a pattern||

Also I had no dialogue except for Shauniiii shauniiiii SHAUNNNIII

[sharp harbor]

That’s the hint about the controls. It doesn’t tell you about the pattern

[orchid gate]

oh I see ||just the attack pattern is what you’re talking about, gotcha||

[tawdry plover]

I tried to buy the flight stabilizer before the jump upgrade, and they don't have any in stock

I need to replay it and see if I can buy the jump upgrade before the cannon

[tawdry plover]

Imagine that ending cut scene two decades ago 🥲

[dapper lily]

I had fun with this. Camera tried to make me hate it. Every thing else was ok.

[sick copper]

Yeah, overall a fun time. Just not a fan of the final 5 minutes lol

And honestly, so many good games have pretty underwhelming or badly designed final fights

[marble anchor]

Time for a sequel!

[viral jacinth]

Thank you

It's not just me

The camera in this game is horrific

[dapper lily]

Yes

[viral jacinth]

Iv not got there yet but this makes sence to me seeing how like every fight this far has had it's own gimmick.

I feel like the game overall is ok. It's hard for me to put alot of time stright into it tho cause it's macanics are alittle boring imo

[sick copper]

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

[mellow saffron]

||The vertical attack was the only tricky part. Like, a realized the controls were backwards almost immediately. I had no idea how to hit up though.||

[sick copper]

I did go back and watch the BG&E2 trailers. and am very confused. They want to make the sequel a prequel!?

[viral jacinth]

No no they want to not make it at all🤣

Side Jade's monotone voice and little change in emotion no matter what happens truly takes me out of the game sometimes 🤣

[mellow saffron]

prequel.

[viral jacinth]

Like || pay'j gives here the heart warming cd, took care of her here whole life and dies she like yes...he...ment.. so...much...to...me with like no inflection or change in voice and then just moves on like it did not happen now the other guy is here partner so it's fine ||

And I'm like well || if the main character does not seem to care much neither do I. Taken me right outta the story or caring about what happens to any of the characters ||

[hexed token]

starting to see what people dislike about the Slaughterhouse

I am actually a little confused about where I'm going, and moving back and forth is, to put it gently, profoundly cumbersome

[viral jacinth]

I find everything in this game || from mancanics to story to world building and so on to be mid. Like mid stealth section, mid fighting sections, mid racing mingames, mid boss fights. So on and so forth. It's like the game devs were like how can we add alot of macanics to game but be OK at all of them not great. || making this game very unmemerable and kinda lifeless and not knowing what it wanted to be.

|| the machines ya can get stakos and stuff from have more life and personality then Jade dose. " a stakos restores on heart if ya energy ||

[pallid depot]

If the map were in the corner rather than in the menu, it would be massively more useful.

[hexed token]

Yeah. I'm already backtracking and going in circles tho 😭

[cosmic vector]

And done. Wow fuck that final boss and camera. Apart from that I enjoyed it

It felt like it was a mash of many games

I’m assuming I need to watch until after the end credits to get a final story

Wtf was that ending I was expecting a marvels credits ending but got that

[narrow swift]

Not sure .
The map itself is awful .

[pallid depot]

The map was better when I found out that the square means there's an elevator.

[narrow swift]

Yeah you need to figure out pretty much everything . So I just said fuck the map. Well actually I keep looking at it , and remember why I gave up on it. Repeat.

[sick copper]

I actually didnt find the slaughterhouse all that bad. Like 1 Stealth section was rough but other than that, i think i finished it all in like 40minutes to an hour

[narrow swift]

I kind of enjoyed part of slaughterhouse but not what comes after .
Now I dropped out of that stupid vessel and don’t even know to get back in, or where it’s gone for that matter .

[sharp harbor]

It’s on your map. You get in the same way you got out

[hexed token]

OK, now that I've got my sense of direction about me in the Slaughterhouse, it's slightly less bad

[narrow swift]

Thanks a lot really appreciated. I was about to rage quit

[sharp harbor]

I freaked out once when I exited the canals on the wrong side and didn’t see the balena

[dapper lily]

I used the compass a lot. It's marked on these also

[narrow swift]

Yeah the compass is helpful sometimes but it doesn’t work that well because it doesn’t account for obstacles

Made it to the moon thanks to the help of dirn and others . Wonder if I can make it before the end of the month . Would be a rare 3/3 for me

[sharp harbor]

The moon is pretty quick

[narrow swift]

I am kind of afraid of the last boss though after all I read here lol

[pallid depot]

The last boss was a matter of timing and patterns. It's possible to only get hit a few times. If your reaction time is good, you'll be fine.

[tawdry plover]

88 pearls, all the animals, 18 mdisks, all customizations (20th anniversary edition). I'm pretty close to platinuming this game, biggest thing left is to do a speedrun.

Oh, and beat the game. Still gotta actually go to the moon

This is an all-time classic for me though, but its a first time 100%ing it

I get why people feel the way they do, playing it now and playing it under a time constraint. I used to waste hours just boating around and stuff, lol

[orchid gate]

it's really not that bad at all imo

[dawn pelican]

I got smacked up a few times before I realized the pattern, but it wasn't too bad for me

[sharp harbor]

Your reaction times don’t even need to be that good if you take advantage of betting beaten up to learn the pattern

[viral jacinth]

Hopefully will be finishing this tonight after my tatoo appointment

[narrow swift]

You’re getting a tattoo of double h right ?

[mellow saffron]

It's just Carlson & Peeters

or Chapter 12: Respect the Home Team

[sick copper]

‘Carlson & PETEEEEEEERRRSSS’ to be lore acurate

[viral jacinth]

God no he is so annoying 🤣🤣 nevet stops talking lol

I'm finishing up my shadow tatoo hopefully 🤣

[tawdry plover]

Is Shadow eating a box of k-bups to completely restore his energy?

[dawn pelican]

D.B.U.T.T., Miss Jade! Don't Break Up The Team

[marble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-triple-h-wwe-lucha-gif-18769035

[hexed token]

I now have the stellar motor

and lots of k-bups

I'm going to guess at this point that the star key is a bit wasted on me (I did the other vaults and stuff)

[viral jacinth]

If I saw shadow eat a k-pop I'd no I'm in the wrong timeline🤣

[sick copper]

Double H giving you a kiss when you win the hovercraft championship was funny

[narrow swift]

But he is so respectful

[half panther]

A STARKOS WILL- A BOX OF K-BUPS WIL- A STARKOS

[marble anchor]

A SET OF PODS-

[hexed token]

all animals get

[slender island]

Carlson and Peeters sounds so much like a law firm

[sick copper]

A Box of Kbup-A box of Kbups-a box-abox

[abstract shuttle]

Just cleared the Slaughterhouse. It wasn’t bad. I thought it would be horrible because of the comenta

Just need to clear the moon

https://tenor.com/view/the-moon-gru-steve-carell-despicable-me-luna-gif-16560528

[hexed token]

I'm on the moon now. Like actually in a waiting room right now, but I left off on the moon after getting my report photo

So not long now

[dawn pelican]

You're almost done

[hexed token]

Another 3/3. And then I can start worrying about whether I'm going to put in the work to maintain the old GBC and Link's Awakening cart (probably needs a new battery if nothing else) or just take the path of least resistance and play the DX version on my CubeXX like a normal person

[viral jacinth]

"Respectful" sure!! "Jade I'll watch ya backside" god tht linne in the .middle of the slaughter house lol

[narrow swift]

Could this chat help me one last (hopefully) time? I think I couldn’t be closer to the area of the last reporter picture of the game . I go to the middle of that room and I can press a to do an action. But the action is literally doing nothing . Either I wait eternally or I cancel .

[mellow saffron]

Is it the columns of light bit? Do you need to || use the stick to rotate the columns|| after pressing a?

[dapper lily]

did you zoom in

was there a cut scene before the picture?

[hexed token]

All right what the fuck was that

[marble anchor]

Video game?

[sick copper]

Right!?

[hexed token]

That bullshit at the end. the fuck

Wheretf did that come from. Wtf is this about

[sick copper]

"Hey remember combat that you've only had to use 3 times in this entire game"

||"Master it but with scrambled controls"||

[hexed token]

I mean story-wise

[sick copper]

Oh, well that too

[abstract shuttle]

I actually like it. The boss fight was ok. The ||reversed controls|| didn’t mess me up because I noticed they were ||reversed|| before he appeared. Also I had like 20 Kbops. That helped

I especially like the ||Spider Tractor Beam Shooter|| part

Why do they always ||kill my favorite character?|| then they ||bring him back but he’s infected|| I guess? When’s the sequel?

[narrow swift]

||you mean that I should be rotating all columns at the same time ?||

[narrow swift]

Nah I mean i am im the room with the columns which I assume is right before the picture room . Sorry was not clear

Was trying not to have to use the damn spoiler tag lol

[narrow swift]

Finally resolved to check out a guide

Turns out there was nothing to do with the columns . I could just keep going streak , where there was apparently a little crack on the wall

[viral jacinth]

Ya this part was super lame

The last boss last phase was completely nonsence. But I beat it!!

The game was on overall mid but really wore out it's welcome with me by the end I'm glad it over to never play again. At least I managed to get 2/3 done this month even with it being super hectic on my end!!

[boreal holly]

You still have time for 3/3 JC

[viral jacinth]

I don't work then concert!! Plus pikman really just ant for me.

[narrow swift]

Did anyone understand the last screen?

||when the pig looks at his hand||

[calm oak]

||pey'j is infected with the domz||

[viral jacinth]

Ya for tht sequel that turned into a prequel that turned into never comming out🤣

[narrow swift]

I didn’t even know that domz is an infection lol. I was really confused story-wise

[viral jacinth]

Well it's tec a species tht can infect people I think

Howeber the story just added shit randomly when it wanted

|| Like jade can heal people or when the head of the alpha section dies he says something about dark nights or something
..cause the game totally even mentioned them before like the ass end of the game🤣🤣 ||

Honestly the more ya try to think about it from a narrative prospective the worse it gets🤣. So unfortunately I think it's a have to turn brain off to enjoy story type story. Which sucks but is what it is

[tawdry plover]

||it happened to Double H earlier in the game and he was treated with an antidote at IRIS HQ after having to rush him there from the nutripils factory||

[viral jacinth]

I think me and @narrow swift truly evaluated media similarly every time I see man's in chat I'm like dam I was thinking same thing

[dawn pelican]

Great minds think alike

[viral jacinth]

Facts facts

[narrow swift]

Oh yeah I had forgotten !

[narrow swift]

What’s the difference between you and me though? Skills . You have . I don’t .

[viral jacinth]

Don't put self down!! Ya have it in ha too!! Trust me!! It's all practice!! Everything I'm good at I just did alot and thts how I for lack of better words got gud

[dapper lily]

Did you beat it?

[narrow swift]

Yep did it.

Thanks to all who helped me at the end