Powkiddy RGB50

[tough agate]

I don't really see how it makes a difference

[sweet juniper]

Some games ' design took the gap into consideration, without the gap it will look odd/off

[tough agate]

that's a small fraction of games

but I guess there is an audience for it

personally if I were to make a dualscreen device I would just stack two 4:3 displays on top of each other

in that case there probably wouldn't be a significant gap between them

[vapid frigate]

That is why 1:1 devices became Popular for DS emu lol

[rich plover]

its some pretty notable ones tho. sonic rush, yoshi's island ds, contra 4

[covert sapphire]

Any ds game that uses the two screens as one continuous thing benefits from the gap

[tough agate]

There's Yoshi's island for the DS???

[covert sapphire]

Yeah, it's not great lol

[rich plover]

its worth a playthrough but yeah its not nearly as good as the original

[vapid frigate]

With having the most units sold as the best selling Handheld of all time, no surprise it had a ton of weird titles that got lost to the over abundance

[covert sapphire]

I do actually use a desaturation color filter for earlier gba games that went crazy with the saturation, I find they can look a lot better that way. Stuff like Super Mario Advance 1-3, Golden Sun, Metroid Fusion, etc

[tough agate]

that's not the same as low brightness though

[near field]

Having a visible border between the screens makes it more visually clear and also yes, contra 4, sonic rush, yoshi’s island DS, etc require a gap to not have a weird water refraction thing happen when stuff crosses between the screens

I currently play NDS on a 16:10 tablet in portrait orientation and having the gap is nice

[lone wedge]

I have time to harass sean

And I've said so much

The 1440p feedback is clear

Also the four63

Four63??

Is 1440p

[kindred terrace]

When? When? When?

[cobalt rose]

powkiddy is too threatened by the competition. it may never happen

e6max is done and covers android, with Hackaround's linux cfw on the way
helegaly pi is done and covers Batocera linux, with GammaOS on the way

[muted falcon]

They have the chance to do the funniest thing ever and announce the new v90 this week

[cobalt rose]

or... OR.... x18s2 featuring a t820 processor inside. would be -pretty nice-. I would sell my rg556 for that

@acoustic rover

honestly, this too

[craggy trail]

It would be fine

[cobalt rose]

launch it with some nice colors to pair with the v90, maybe put some vents on the front center so it can radiate heat better from the spreader plate, boom: powkiddy is back in the game.

[swift belfry]

Nope. CubeXX has a sega dpad and is lacking the speakers under the sticks as well as those clicky select buttons next to the top of the screen

[lone wedge]

What about super sp

[near field]

what do you mean 'nope'?

I'm not saying that's what I want neccesarily but it's what I think is more likely from anbernic vs them copying a powkiddy

[swift belfry]

I thought you were saying the mock up was a CubeXX stretched out. But it’s literally a pic of the powkiddy

[near field]

Oh no, I’m saying the real device is probably gonna be a cubeXX stretched out

I would love a stretched out RGB30 instead lol

Or an Rgb50 but with the 4:3 960p

[tough agate]

guys, leaked image of rgb50 promo art just got revealed !!!

[swift belfry]

I’m sworn off devices for a while but boy would that tempt me

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-thats-ai-spongebob-toilet-thats-real-nice-meme-gif-13167262376400266709

[formal smelt]

We're doomed.

[mortal dirge]

we had a nice run

time to let our AI overlords take over

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-16625083

[kindred terrace]

Chatgtp says it will be like this

[ivory kettle]

Plus I’m pretty sure you can outright ask to buy the V10 d-pad and button membrane on its own, so I don’t see the point in buying a whole handheld just for that alone.

[near field]

yeah I mean just look at the A button

or the lack of perspective on the sticks

or one stick being closer to the bottom edge of the device than the other

or the lack of start and select buttons

even though there is a start label but no select label

dpad looks taller than it is wide

shadow angle of the device and the sticks are different

[kindred terrace]

And the anbernic will be like this

This is what you get when you get all the knowledge about handhelds from google but you never had one in your hands or never played a game

[near field]

XBAX layout lol

AAXB below

not a Y button in sight lol

[little maple]

That sounds like a Powkiddy layout I've received

[kindred terrace]

That is chatgtp powkiddy rgb50 design….

No difference between real powkiddy stuf and bad AI design

[high sorrel]

That also gave me a idea
Someday I should make a "non-AI" version of this design, albeit with a few differences

[kindred terrace]

The anbernic was 99,9% ai, the website got that one right

[ivory kettle]

No matter how stupid AI-designs seem, never doubt the unlimited potential of human stupidity.

We’ve been making stupid/weird shit on par with AI-jank for decades.

https://youtu.be/rzLIUgnKY40

[muted falcon]

Perfect early 2000's music

[vapid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-towelie-towlie-dont-forget-to-bring-a-towel-gif-23458355

[tough agate]

I thought it was pretty obviously ai, that's why I sent it in

[near field]

yeah I was more saying why did nomo use an AI to tell it was AI lol

[silent geode]

Lol some of their handhelds really looked like designed by AI

[kindred terrace]

I am also afraid it will never happen but I am not allowed to say that here

[tough agate]

the rgb50 is literally looking like the best handheld for me

it's a kt-r1 with hdmi out and linux support

possibly better controls

the screen and formfactor are incredible here

[lone wedge]

Hmm

Eh who am I kidding I'm not buying this

I'm always thinking

But the super sp always wins

[silent geode]

You started to write about Super SP even in the other and not related channels now? 😄 I hope Powkiddy will make a follow up o x7 and call it Super SP, so they will force you to buy it

[lone wedge]

Pale imitators

Super sp will never be named that anyway

[muted falcon]

See the difference is Powkiddy doesn't have Magicx-m-sean

They could never hope to achieve something as great as the Super Sp

It would be super in name only

[solar sonnet]

What is the Super SP?

[lone wedge]

😂

😂🤣😂🤣

[tough agate]

it's a perfect clamshell with a 1440p screen @lone wedge keeps dreaming about

[lone wedge]

The clamshell

1440p top and bottom

D8300

I would say oled but I've given up on that to an extent

[tough agate]

uhm what?

[lone wedge]

Ya

[tough agate]

960p is clearly a better choice for bottom screen

[lone wedge]

Disgusting

1440p provides more

[tough agate]

wdym disguisting? It integer scales ds and 3ds perfectly

what more do you need for a secondary screen?

[lone wedge]

Ppi

And it's 4:3 for a reason

3x gc

Not just 2x

Or 2x with shader

[tough agate]

you've proven yourself time and time again that you don't care about ppi, only integer scaling

[lone wedge]

I remember now

1440p integer scales the 4:3 stretch for snes

7 wide 6 tall pixels

[tough agate]

what's the point? you can just do that on the top screen

[lone wedge]

Black bar

[tough agate]

it would probably end up giving a bigger picture aswell

[tough agate]

Oh.. so you're one of those people...

do you also happen to be an rg34xx connosuer cause there are no blackbars?

[lone wedge]

And gameboy

[tough agate]

(even though they could have clearly given it a much larger screen in that shell)

[lone wedge]

Pokemon mini

Gba

[silent geode]

he is only Super SP connaisseur, despite it doesn't exist 😄

[lone wedge]

PSP sometimes

[lone wedge]

On what

Too weak

And linux

And 480p doesn't int scale anything else

[tough agate]

wouldn't be easier to have systems for perfect integer scalings to fill these gaps?

does your ideal handheld also require to be pocketable?

cause if not, then you can just get a galaxy tab s8 or s9

slap a g8+ on it

and you can play 1600p amoled 120hz ds and 3ds

ans there's your super sp

[lone wedge]

Vile statements

[lone wedge]

It's one ideal handheld for a reason

[lone wedge]

I would never emulate ds on one screen

This is going to be the gpopbwoat

On the super sp

[tough agate]

why would it make a difference?

[vapid frigate]

[muted falcon]

Okay I refuse to believe that second one is playable with the bottom screen that small

First one looks okay though

[vapid frigate]

There are single Screen DS games that barely use the bottom screen at all

[haughty patrol]

praise the 1:1

[tough agate]

yeah ds on the rgb30 is actually pretty good

just gotta integerscale main screen and slap in another screen under it

and u got a pretty good setup

[vapid frigate]

Or just say F it, and roll deep in the big screen with a tiny little screen for your Pokmon Moves 🤣

[lone wedge]

🤮

i want the gpopbwoat

[swift belfry]

I’d buy that Xbox 720 I’m ngl. And that ps4 was incredibly close, which says a lot about Sony design

[coarse temple]

that more than real to do, u need like 680M (6800U) igpu to run Xenia in 30fps (If 720P, even lower)

[tough agate]

let the bodies hit the floor

let the bodies hit the... FLOOOOORRRR

[kindred terrace]

Hey, this seems like a nice handheld. Anyone got any idea when they are gonna release it?

[tough agate]

we got no information

[haughty patrol]

we bought Ayaneo Pocket ACE instead

[lone wedge]

Never

[haughty patrol]

I sure did

[kindred terrace]

Yeah, that will teach Powkiddy!

[cunning crane]

I don’t care if they have a similar size or shape, you’re never gonna convince me that any PowKiddy device and any Ayaneo device are trying to capture the same market space

[muted falcon]

Ayaneos like 3x the price at least 😭

[ivory kettle]

I just got the Ace because I liked how it looks better and thought the software for my Micro was actually a lot better than my Pocket Air.

[mortal dirge]

weird, people are buying the Ace

[frigid ledge]

Probably around 50/50

Hopefully rgb50 will be more reasonable for us who only play retro games once or twice a week. If i would play retro games daily i would buy ace as well, but i mostly play on ps5 or steamdeck, rgb50 would be replacing my miyoo mini for lunch breaks, waiting rooms at doctors or cancelled clients that dont show up for therapy session.

[haughty patrol]

I mean, I have 70 of these devices and can't say I'm playing them all day either 😂

In fact I haven't finished a single game on nearly all of them

[static hatch]

You play games on these?! I just sit and stare at them 😂😅

[tough agate]

if I don't play my handhelds enough I feel guilty and think about selling them

it just feels so wrong to let them sit and do nothing

especially with the expensive ones

[frigid ledge]

Same here, i dont judge anyone collecting these, it is just not my cup of tea. If youre a collector of retro handhelds than it is entirely different pov i think..

[tough agate]

yeah, I would consider myself to be a collector

but I always try to rationalize my purchases

I never device to buy something just because it looks cool

I always want to think of usecases or why it would be worth buying

[cobalt rose]

I rotate my handhelds weekly

its hard to do that when you have too many

[haughty patrol]

my last 100 hours of playtime have been on my PC 😂

[near field]

right now I'm mostly jumping between my laptop, my miniPC, and my ipad

I tend to assign specific systems to specific devices though

or at least specific games

if I want to play a GBA game I'm 1000% grabbing the 34xx, ditto gameboy/gameboy colour and the 406v

PSP and RP5

[static hatch]

I have just under 100 handhelds. But mostly play on my ayaneo micro 😅 and Y700 tablet

[near field]

the y700 is nice

[static hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-dale-doback-step-brothers-yes-i-agree-gif-1579811350903017250

[near field]

I am very curious if there will be any way to use the new controller case coming for the gen 4 on my gen 2 (s8+g1)

[static hatch]

Someone on reddit tested it with gen 3 at the reveal show and it worked. So i hope so

Looks like it might

[near field]

its cheap enough that I'd be willing to do a bit of trimming if it required it

like if it works but the camera cutout isn't right etc

[compact escarp]

Me with no handhelds besides my old GBA, DS, and 3DS...

Why am I even here? Well, besides looking for buying advice

[cunning crane]

Hey man, this is Retro Handhelds those sound like retro handhelds to me

[compact escarp]

Good point

Even modded my 3DS, so technically, I COULD emulate with it...

[kindred terrace]

Hello @acoustic rover , can you give us an update on this machine? Has it been canceled? Why is it taking so long?

[acoustic rover]

I don't have any update but I'll ask for one tomorrow.

[vapid frigate]

Considering current events, maybe we see a release soon? Market in US just had an Opening and they may choose to capitalize on it

[north path]

I think it should be self-explanatory that everything needed to be dropped to work on the new v90

It's of utmost priority

[tough agate]

yeah I've got time

I can wait a few more months until release

[ivory kettle]

Eh, I liked my AYANEO Pocket Micro, and this is looking to be a nice replacement.

Of course, I still heavily recommend people don’t get the Ace unless they very specifically want it and are willing to accept whatever bullshit may or may not occur.

[languid summit]

Hey Sir ! any update for a friend ? thank you 🙂

[cobalt rose]

just do what sinyorksu did, but make it more normal looking...

it's not like he's tony stark or something

[icy venture]

Maybe they realised the panel is a turd and canned it

Oh, powkiddy

[tough agate]

no, you gotta believe

this. thing is releasing and it's gonna be one of the best budget handhelds to release

[languid summit]

I truly believe on this one

[cobalt rose]

Engineers: we can't use the battery as a heatsink this time, boss
CEO: cancel it then

[kindred terrace]

Hello @acoustic rover I guess that means it has been cancelled and we can close the channel?

[muted falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-spongebob-ice-cream-truck-spongebon-crashed-spongebob-hold-on-gif-10436656614678318733

[near field]

Why are you like this

This whole thread isn’t even 2 months old

[cunning crane]

I wonder how many times Zeph would have closed the Miyoo Flip thread

[coarse temple]

we just should closed him

[haughty patrol]

I already bought the Ayaneo Pocket Ace, cancel this

[kindred terrace]

“Soon”

When Anbernic leaks something 4 weeks later you can have it in your hands @ home.

Now after 2 months pnothing.

[cunning crane]

Can you please leave and just let the rest of us have fun

Cancel it in your mind and hide the channel

[coarse temple]

👆

[muted falcon]

Important distinction

[near field]

I appreciate getting info from powkiddy earlier and if people are allowed to harass jdewitz because they don’t it will stop

[kindred terrace]

Define “herass”

[dense dune]

lately I've been seeing a lot of messenger shooting. I'll start taking action

[dense dune]

don't start this. also I'd appreciate if no one responds to this either

[near field]

I'm going to respond to this right now to tell you I hope you have a great day ☺️

[cunning crane]

Beeg PowKiddy

[near field]

I'm just so happy to see flat pocketable candybar handhelds with inline shoulders aren't dead yet

anbernic doesn't seem interested in them anymore

[cunning crane]

I mean they’ve already made a dozen of them

What interests me about this device is that nice big screen, plus it runs Linux so I can daydream about CFW

[haughty patrol]

As if we would harass Jdewitz, just bother him a little

[near field]

A pocketable slab with a big screen and muOS is the dream

406 screen preferably but this might do too

[muted falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/big-yoshi-beeg-yoshi-mario-rpg-gif-7187103637593349944

[vapid frigate]

Does that mean it's a Possible Spruce Candidate?

[near field]

muOS on the rgb10max3pro pls

[haughty patrol]

that thing still exists? I would have assumed they all ended up in some landfill next to the copies of E.T.

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-tik-tok-tiktok-dvd-song-gif-3661633151850991505

[haughty patrol]

wtf

[near field]

so far I think the rgb10max3pro is the the most pocketable handheld that actually runs psp well and also the largest screen on a flat pocketable candybar

[keen basalt]

I can hear the audio of that gif….

[near field]

so I want that shell or something similar without the amlogic nightmare

[muted falcon]

rgb10max3pro is definitely one of the names of all time

[acoustic rover]

No, why would you think this

Delayed

Not on time

Many other options than canceled

[north path]

I'm afraid Aya stole all the screens, Arthur broke into Powkiddy in middle of the night

[mortal dirge]

I would watch that movie

[near field]

Can’t we check how many pocket ACE they actually sold since they use crowdfunding sites?

257

I don’t think we’re in any danger of them using all the screens

[haughty patrol]

that's just international anyway, they sold six gazillion ACE in China

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179

[tough agate]

patience my friends

patience

glory shall come in time

[shy prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

[wicked gulch]

powkiddy plz

[languid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[jade hound]

It’s coming “soon”

[brittle nymph]

please don't mess up the dpad again powkiddy 😔

i don't care how bad the sticks are just please at least put in a half decent dpad

[vapid frigate]

V10 D Pad was great

[brittle nymph]

Funny how the only dpad they got right was on one of their cheapest devices

[vapid frigate]

Fine for me lol. I put it on my RGB30 lol. Fits exactly the same anyway

[kindred terrace]

Soon ™

[cobalt rose]

Why is every a527 device but the original floundering?

Take the original spec and make it better.

[kindred terrace]

So in the world there are only 3 handhelds, that have the 4,5 inch 3:2 screen.

The KTR1 , the PK RGB50 and the Ayn Ace

This is a $700 device with the same screen

Here is what retrododo says about the screen

Now, that is quality control on a $700 device, luckily powkiddy will have better qc on our $80 upcoming rgb50!

$600 as a pre-order, $700 as a retail

[near field]

I mean that’s just how this screen looks I think

It’s not a particularly modern or high quality lcd

Which is fine on an $80 powkiddy

Was never really good enough at ktr1 pricing, and certainly isn’t good enough at the price ayaneo is charging for it lol

[tough agate]

Would you claim the ayaneo micro's screen is better?

[kindred terrace]

Actually I do think it is an awesome screen. And yes, I can know. i have owned more than 100 handhelds and the KTR1 screen is in my top 2 non-oled screens. It has awesome saturation.

And the base KTR1 that was $160 (4gb) is awesome and had a great price as well.

[near field]

did you just post a bunch of agreeing emojis under your own comment?

[shy prawn]

He really did.

[near field]

[kindred terrace]

Nah, i would never do that

[near field]

[coarse temple]

saturation = awesome screen, remember that take

that the most popular trick to make garbage display looks for this kind of peoples good (used in phones/monitors/tvs)

[kindred terrace]

Do you own a ktr1 so you can tell me with your own eyes?

[coarse temple]

i don't need it, i have seen measure

[shy prawn]

Yeah I don't get the "saturation = good" thing. My biggest issue with the 406v is how oversaturated it looks. I end up using my 40XXv a lot more. A lot of these games were designed for less than optimal screens and had to be oversaturated to compensate.

[cunning crane]

re: light bleed, this is often not reflective of the screen quality in general, but the construction of the overall device, since it can often be at least exacerbated by excess pressure in the case around the screen

And yeah if I shelled out $600 for an Aya device I would be furious with those results, but like Pope said if we are talking about a sub-$100 PowKiddy I'm gonna grant more leeway

[near field]

some screens like the rgb30/cube screen are way more prone to it than others

[cunning crane]

that's fair

I just mean the same panel in multiple devices won't always exhibit the same level of light bleed in each

[keen basalt]

What about this

[cunning crane]

those button indices are awful lol

[near field]

I wish people would just leave the buttons blank

there are three different schemes for how to label them at minimum (really more if you count genesis etc)

[keen basalt]

I heard aya Neo does that ;))

[languid summit]

80 USD for RGB50 ???? Has it been said or leaked somewhere ?

too cheap to be real

[near field]

no, but that's about what an a527 handheld is worth

look at the #1342191309959463027

[languid summit]

yeah but this screen looks better than the one on Helegaly Action Pi

and porbably cost a bunch more

[near field]

it's an aftermarket replacement screen for an old blackberry

I don't think this screen is worth much

[languid summit]

hahaha then Aya Neo really put the same exact screen on a 700 USD Handheld ???

[near field]

yeah they're crazy

[languid summit]

poor customers...

[jade hound]

@kindred terrace GKD Little has 4.5 inch 3:2 screen

[languid summit]

Powkiddy please release this one ASAP

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-noahs-pc-doesnt-have-audio-gif-12352881450228917257

[languid summit]

I heard this has been canceled by GKD.....

[kindred terrace]

It doesn’t exist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1irg60f9qsZOkhp0cwOU7Cy4rJQeyusEUzTNQzhoTYTU/htmlview#

[rich plover]

so same deal as the og miyoo mini screen? maybe similar issues in that quantity might be finite

[frank idol]

any futrher news on this?

[dense dune]

valid concern but I also don't expect this to be as wildly popular as miyoo mini

maybe they will have just enough screens

[mortal dirge]

imagine judging a screen by the specs instead of actually using it and looking at it

[supple gale]

Speak of screens, @near field I bumped into a video last night of your dream amoled square vertical handheld setup (kinda)

[near field]

Oh?

[supple gale]

[near field]

My current plan is to wait a year or two until I can get a rp mini v2/fixed v1 for cheap and do a stick delete mod to basically get a horizontal classic that runs Linux

I’d even rather have a vertical so the classic would be perfect if it had cfw instead of a locked down brand new budget qualcomm chip

[near field]

I was so close to buying a gba emu app for my Apple Watch when an unplanned trip to my provincial dmv equivalent without a handheld occurred

Phone was at 7% battery too

Just worst case scenario

Had to just sit and stare at the wall for 3.5 hours

[supple gale]

That OTG adapter serving as the mount is probably my favorite thing about that setup

[near field]

Yeah lol

[tough agate]

inset sticks, grips removed and u got a perfect rgb30 oled

[brittle nymph]

anyone have guesses as to when this thing is going to launch? i assume a while after the v90s but hopefully before the holiday season

[proven root]

I wonder which releases first this or the Action Pi 🤣

[tough agate]

yall are impatient as fuck

[torn dome]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[tough agate]

it's probably releasing in a few months

[mortal dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/xnh-gif-27054145

Powkiddy right now

[kindred terrace]

you misspelled years

[mighty coral]

you misspelled never

[cunning crane]

https://tenor.com/view/kellys-heroes-oddball-negative-waves-gif-25791525

[tough agate]

I swear you were the same people who were doing this when the miyoo flip was still cooking

[kindred terrace]

I was almost banned for calling this vaporware in this channel !

[cunning crane]

No, you were almost banned for repeatedly pinging our PK source asking for updates and telling him to close the channel because you decided it must be cancelled since it didn't meet the deadline you made up in your head

[kindred terrace]

Repeatedly hahaha

[compact escarp]

Anyways, if this comes out, what humiliating thing do you want me to do?

[cobalt rose]

This is what it feels like to wait for powkiddy to wait for helegaly to release a cfw they can steal/rebrand and call us insane for not thinking anything else is happening.

laughs in closed-source batocera on a locked emmc

[vapid frigate]

Don't know why PK just doesnt reach out to Rocknix like they Used to. I thought JelOS, now Rocknix was Great with their devices

[cobalt rose]

the problem is the a527 is still super early in development. there are only -two- real gaming os's at the moment(based on two desktop environments), which are android 13 and Sunxi/batocera. both sit on scrapped-together BSP kernels modified for specific pcb builds.

Like, to reach out to rocknix, they need an already stable kernel source. This is also a market where everyone is guarding their version of the kernel to prevent being underdogged.

I could ask sinyorksu for the source again, but the answer will still probably be "lol no"

[near field]

Tbf the miyoo flip came out and was very much not worth waiting for lmao

[tender blaze]

what's the strongest cpu powkiddy has ever used?

[vapid frigate]

T618 on the x18 & x28 devices I believe

[haughty patrol]

t618 yeah

they are generations behind at this point

[vapid frigate]

I mean, a527 is pretty close tho to the t620. So this is technically about to be better

And Android means Dolphin MMJR

[cobalt rose]

no, it isn't. a527 is closer to the s922x. it's more compatible with vita and 3ds than it is with gc or ps2 due to lack of big cores

[vapid frigate]

Ah crap, that is what I get for listening to a bunch of random people on the RH server

Thanks for Clarifying with real results for me

[cobalt rose]

it does -some- things(like android native, n64, and dreamcast) on the same level as the t618 and t620, but above that, it loses a lot of steam.

I still have to try Vita3k ZX on mine to see if the performance improved on stuff like WIpeout 2048 or SAO: Lost Song. I may copy my smaller vita folder over to test out later

[cobalt rose]

well, i overheated my e6max just now. don't do vita lol.

[vapid frigate]

How does it Handle GameCube? I don't expect it to run SW: Rogue Squad 2, but like may e F-Zero?

[cobalt rose]

let me refresh my memory and eject the card from my unit

[cobalt rose]

there are a few gamecube games on my a527 list:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBEU9qUJhFIQdBPgn-hO-pIuYPfpO5UC3

The ones i left off are Pikmin, V-Rally 3, and ANimal Crossing. they run fine, so i didn't bother. Conan and Rune I'll get to -some day-

that reminds me. i need to add the rest of the videos

[proven root]

Atleast when I asked helegaly it’s not “lol no” now it’s “we’ll think about it” 🤣

[tough agate]

eh, I mean hinge issues aside it's basically a very slightly better rg35xxsp

[proud ore]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-toilet-funny-poop-still-waiting-gif-14858830

[tough agate]

I guess this is gonna be my life for the past few months

[vapid frigate]

Imagine how all the Miyoo Flip people felt for 18 Months til the v1 released into existence lol

[shy prawn]

I think more about how they must have felt of the result after all that waiting. 😫

[vapid frigate]

Considering the v1 units only had what? Like 500 total units lol

[wicked cloak]

Plus it's Powkiddy, it can be the best thing ever or complete trash

[vapid frigate]

I mean, it's PowKiddy.....ofc it can be complete trash 🤣

We just don't want it to be true lol. I think the Screen alone will garnish great attention

[rich plover]

seems like good screen with a decent chip tbh i just hope that like... everything else about it is okay

which isnt a given with powkiddy lol

[glossy locust]

TBH this can be anbernic as well, IMO the first version of the 35SP was trash

[tough agate]

imo the screen is all it needs to be perfect

it is basically the perfect pocket companion

screen is not too small

just perfect

[brittle nymph]

I don't see any way they mess up the controls badly enough for it to not be worth buying at $80

Only thing that would ruin it for me is if the battery life sucks but I think that's pretty unlikely

[tough agate]

only thing that woukd ruin it for me would be possibly bad powkiddy controls and bad lightbleed on the screen

[frank idol]

release date when

[near field]

They just dropped the v90s

I assume they are gonna space out their releases by at least a month

[keen basalt]

Who said the rgb50 will be their next release?

[silent geode]

I hope it is as they revealed it right after V90s 😄 I'm worried about the battery life with this screen though, on rg552 it wasnt great

[keen basalt]

Did I miss something or where did the 552 come from? 😅

That thing was 5:3, RK3399 or something like that, no?

[haughty patrol]

jep it was

absolute horrid battery life

but this won't be too great either probably, with the 527 burning your hands

[keen basalt]

Is 527 effiency that bad?

[haughty patrol]

it's a fucking 22nm chip

[silent geode]

I think Rk3399 and a527 are quite comparable, probably a527 is better in Multithread performance but slightly worse in Single core

so it really seems to be a cheaper Rg552, I just hope the battery life will be better

[haughty patrol]

other way around iirc

oh no, TJ is actually right, my bad

[silent geode]

but its A527 is newer so hopeflly it will be better 😛 let's see

[wicked gulch]

Rg552: 2

Powkiddy edition

[silent geode]

indeed 😄

hopefully it will cost $70-80, amazng value for this price, but I really just hope that it will have decent battery life

[wicked gulch]

Or name it like a magic x device Five52: two

[tough agate]

oh yeah battery life could be a deal breaker for sure for sure

if this thing the very least doesn't last 4 hours on a single charge I am not getting it

[stiff solar]

this looks cool but touch 35 looks like its number 1 this is a close 2nd

still interested in the review though

[silent geode]

This one has much bigger screen than TO35, depends what you want , small pocketable device or bigger but still portable 🙂

this is the difference in screen size between both

[stiff solar]

Wait, Thats actually big

[haughty patrol]

just that this has a 4.5" 3:2 screen and not the rg552 one

[stiff solar]

still would be kinda big though

i just pray it can do dc and some psp

[haughty patrol]

yeah, should be around RP5 size

[stiff solar]

just glad budget handhelds can play n64 now ig

finally evolving from the h700 chips

[silent geode]

Really? I was convinced its the same screen as rg552 😄

[haughty patrol]

nah KTR1 or whatever that mess was called screen

same as in the GKD Little and Ayaneo Pocket ACE

[silent geode]

Oh man, it's still quite bit bigger than TONE35

[haughty patrol]

sure is

given the size of the Pocket Ace expect RP5 size

[brittle nymph]

I hope they put a big fat battery in it, I couldn't care less about the added weight

[haughty patrol]

probably even a bit bigger, as Powkiddy will give us nice big bezels

[silent geode]

or let's hope there's at least enough space to mod it with bigger one

[wicked gulch]

Link to this website?

[tough agate]

and yet it's still big enough to fit in your pocket

imo it's the perfect size

right now the only thing that could convince me not to get this would be a clamshell releasing with the ayaneo micro or trimui brick screen

[stiff solar]

yep

[silent geode]

here you go mate: https://www.displaywars.com/4,5-inch-3x2-vs-3,5-inch-3x2

[frank idol]

release date when

i havent bought anything since 35xx SP

im itching to buy somnething

[brittle nymph]

wait for the a527 handhelds to drop

[frank idol]

which this device is right?

[brittle nymph]

yeah but it probably isn't coming out for another few months

i took what you said as meaning you're itching to buy something now lol

[frank idol]

it is

so where is this device

so i can buy it now

[kindred terrace]

I just got in touch with Powkiddy and look what they faxed me back!

[brittle nymph]

yeah I wouldn't expect it for another month or two at least seeing as the v90 released about two seconds ago

[frank idol]

really? next you gonna tell me its 32 May 2025

[frank idol]

I demand my device!

[kindred terrace]

Look what this channel is called

[brittle nymph]

After this launches I just need this and the miyoo mini flip and I'm set

[frank idol]

lies

now give me the device

to buy

[brittle nymph]

what systems are you going to play on it

[frank idol]

GBA

on that glorious 4.5 3:2 screen

1080p

[brittle nymph]

I want it for snes gba and ps1

and portmaster

[frank idol]

this will be my RG552 whom i had an intense love hate with

[brittle nymph]

i just hope the battery doesn't suck

[frank idol]

is it gonna?

be worst than the 552

coz good god the 552

was horrid in that regard

[brittle nymph]

well

the cpu was made with a 22nm process

so it won't be the most efficient thing ever

combine that with the big screen and I really don't know

I'm hoping it's at least 5-6 hours with reasonable brightness

5000+ mah or something idk

[kindred terrace]

Buy a KTR1 , it is out now

[brittle nymph]

isn't it like $200

plus doesn't it have a pretty bad dpad

[kindred terrace]

Yes

[brittle nymph]

at that point just buy a rp flip 2

[kindred terrace]

Not 3:2

[brittle nymph]

fair enough

3:2 is basically the ultimate aspect ratio

tiny black bars for both 4:3 and 16:9 content, square stuff like gb/gbc and game gear is big enough and was designed for small screens anyway

[kindred terrace]

Yes it is, it is great for 4:3 (with tiny black bars) and 16:9 (full screen) and of course 3:2

It is not so good for anything less than 4:3 like pc engine, gb, gbc.

Some snes games also too small because not 4:3

[brittle nymph]

i hope we start seeing cheaper 1:1 handhelds that aren't derivatives of the r36s

[brittle nymph]

Personally I find it too tedious to switch aspect ratios every time I run into a snes game that was designed for the other aspect ratio

in my experience it's about half and half 8:7 and 4:3

[kindred terrace]

But basically you will always need a few handhelds

[brittle nymph]

All you need is 3:2 and 1:1

[kindred terrace]

Something like rp mini for gb, gbc, pc engine, snes. And a powkiddy rg50 for 4:3 and up. And a rgcubexx for vertical shooters

[brittle nymph]

why rp mini

you can play gb/gbc and snes on the cube xx

and everything else on the rgb50

[frank idol]

after shigeru or whatever his name is

hell no

i love nil and whats hes trying to do

but i aint dealing with shigeru in that channel

[kindred terrace]

No, it sucks on 1:1

Pc engine and SNES are amazing on retroid mini

[frank idol]

i would highly disagree on this

but thats suject to individual taste

[brittle nymph]

1:1 is great for both 10:9 and 8:7 content though? can you explain why you think it's bad

[kindred terrace]

I hate black bars and squashed image

Pc engine is made for 8:7 so it has to be played on a 8:7 or 4:3 handheld

[brittle nymph]

You'll have the same problem on the rp mini though

[kindred terrace]

Rpmini is 31:27 , that is more or less 8:7

Perfect for snes and pc engine

And gb and gbc

[brittle nymph]

it's a very negligible difference

definitely not worth spending 300% more for 31:27 over 1:1

wait why not just get the rp classic

it has the same screen and is way cheaper

[frank idol]

coz not horizontal

[stiff solar]

Yeah... I dont like how the black bars look on the classic lol

Like If there were Black Bars from top to bottom id just get a horizontal handheld

I have mixed feelings about the classic

4:3 games look fine on it but the bezels around the screen make it look small

[tough agate]

I wouldn't say the rp classic has large bezels

but they are definitely on the bigger side of things

but compared to like the rg40xxv these bezzels are pretty bad

[tough agate]

I wish every handheld was like the rg40xxv

a man can dream right?

[kindred terrace]

Black rp mini is oled, black bars are invisible

[stiff solar]

yeah

[frank idol]

Day 2 demanding release date of this device

[stiff solar]

this device is pretty cool bit of a bugger for me since it cant fully handle psp but it is still solid so yeah this is still cool

[cobalt rose]

powkiddy probably hasn't figured out the 9w tdp + heat issue yet.

protip: either use a heatsink or nerf the big cores.

[vapid frigate]

Active Cooling

[near field]

Burning more watts to deal with the consequences of burning too many watts = may as well just use an x86 device

Because your battery life is gonna be trash

[vapid frigate]

Yea fair lol. I was thinking just a basic Small fan running on Quiet mode more or less would suffice

[kindred terrace]

Use a 7000 mah battery like KTR1 !

[grand ore]

What consoles does this device emulate up to? Psp? N64?

[cobalt rose]

about half the 3ds library, small bits of ps2, gamecube, and vita, all of psp, n64, and dreamcast with frameskip for hard stuff

[vapid frigate]

Wait....did 3ds become easier to Emulate than GC?

[cobalt rose]

Yes. Someone realized that 3ds emulation was rendering the same screen twice per frame and tossed out the right eye render, so all games became easier to display

[ivory kettle]

You mean $600 for the highest price sku, where the price drops down to like $340 when you go to the lowest price sku.

[ivory kettle]

Like, if you want to make the price of the thing look ridiculous, don’t pretend the highest price is the “only options”, that’s a frankly dishonest “technically but not really truthful” claim that’s wholly unnecessary.

…Instead, be 100% honest without any “deliberately left out context”, and just point out that the lowest price for official retail (meaning no pre-order prices and not on IGG) is supposed to be $460.

[proven root]

Huh.. first time i heard of this, makes me as a pokemon lover happy

Damn that’s a big improvement 50%

Added a new performance hack option named "Disable Right Eye Rendering" | @PabloMK7 758ded7
The 3DS renders for both the left and right eye, even when 3D is not being used. This hack disables rendering one of the eyes, which can result in performance improvements of up to 50% for some games
Certain games may experience graphical issues when using this hack. Try it everywhere and see what works!
You can use the stereoscopic side by side mode to check if the image for the right eye is being disabled, to verify the compatibility of the game

[silent geode]

Yeah, Azahar 3DS is amazing, Pokemon games should be pretty good on a527

[vapid frigate]

That is just amazing tbh. I'm hyped as hell now. I hope they make a Linux build as well for some Lower End devices like RGB30 with the 1:1 lol

[frank idol]

+1

[kindred terrace]

If they even can’t get the screen right on their $700 device what a mess it will be on their $340 device!

[ivory kettle]

Eh, after the 34XX SP debacle, I’m gonna be careful and wait before I assume anything like that.

[kindred terrace]

I was talking about the review unit they send to retrododo which costs….$600 in pre-order and $700 in retail 😳😳😳😳😳 That color is NOT available for less!😳😳😳😳

[ivory kettle]

Would rather not look like an impulsive jackass again like with that.

Definitely prefer criticizing what I already know is ridiculous right now, like having a pre-order that outright punishes people who want to “wait and see if there’s issues” by upcharging them fucking $120!

[ivory kettle]

People still watch RetroDodo?

[frank idol]

Dont disrespect the Dodo

https://tenor.com/view/dodo-walking-bird-natural-history-museum-alive-waddle-gif-4603674700934247407

[ivory kettle]

I’ll disrespect them for however long it takes them to finally delete this nonsense.
https://retrododo.com/best-ps2-emulators-on-android/

And also cleaning up their act to do better reviews, but stuff like this is the most egregious and what should’ve been erased a long while ago.

[frank idol]

i said dont disrespect the dodo

the dodo is this

https://tenor.com/view/dodo-walking-bird-natural-history-museum-alive-waddle-gif-4603674700934247407

retrododo however is an idiot

[ivory kettle]

Even the “the internet is eternal, no one will forget” can be easily fixed by them making a new post that point blank says “we deleted a couple articles because they were recommending apps with malware/spyware and didn’t want to risk messing people’s handhelds up”.

They literally have zero excuse to keep this up, especially when they actively show they’re willing to update it to change the name of AetherSX2 to account for NetherSX2, and to have new handhelds in the article images.

[vapid frigate]

Nether sx2 classic lol

Love it

It plays NFS MW on my 4 pro Perfectly

[ivory kettle]

Yup, that’s apparently third place (and unironically last since “there’s only 3 options that are fully playable”), with second and first both being “quality” and “top of the line” emulators like PPSS22 and fucking DamonPS2.

[ivory kettle]

Oh I’m sorry, I meant DamonPS2 Pro, since apparently that’s a thing now and they actively updated their article to account for and recommend that as well.

[cobalt rose]

Yeah Azahar is pretty great

[vapid frigate]

I talk with Trix alot, Nether dev, Last Patch for nether went out. Now he working on a new Ethereal ps2 Emulator, no more patches!

[keen basalt]

Ethereal realistically won’t have a beta release within the next 12-months

Sounds like an enormous effort to port over pcsx2

[vapid frigate]

Probably, just excited anyone is even working on a new ps2 emulator at all. Especially the guy who helped make Aether better

[ivory kettle]

It’s more-so an enormous effort to do so without any of the help that an open Arm64 source that was developed by one of the PCSX2 devs to work from…

The main PCSX2 is open source, including its MacOS build, so at the very least they have that to work with for the Arm itself, they just need to figure out all the stuff that’s unique to Apple and make it work with hardware normally used for Arm-Linux and Android instead (as in supporting Mali and Adreno).

[vapid frigate]

Would be so much simpler if they also gave us a Linux build

[ivory kettle]

They technically already did since PCSX2 does have native Linux support (they even have both Appimage and flatpak options, when most emulators only have one or the other).

[vapid frigate]

Does that just mean they don't have an ARM Linux build then?

[ivory kettle]

Yes, neither Arm-Linux nor Arm-Windows.

Just MacOS.

[vapid frigate]

Maybe we can get a handheld with the m1 chip

[patent bane]

Pretty sure the MacOS version is x86 through Rosetta

[storm mountain]

SoC A133P

[near field]

I don’t think this is the 133p

[cobalt rose]

i love when people just make things up

and then like... 100% believe it without looking at any sources

[upbeat quartz]

which chipset will be 1st to play 90% of PS2 library in under $100 shipped

[vapid frigate]

I think the d900 came Pretty close, but probably the d1100 in a few years 🤣

It's mostly the Emulator support

[haughty patrol]

G1 Gen2 will probably hit that home earlier in the sub $100 department

[umbral silo]

Any chances of this having Bluetooth for headphones?

[quasi bridge]

it has wifi so it should have bluetooth too

[cobalt rose]

an old intel laptop. maybe a used s20fe

odroid go ultra might get you halfway there in rocknix or batocera's firmware

[storm mountain]

And your source is RetroDodo? I couldn't find anything from your source

[upbeat quartz]

I meant retro handheld from any brands

Tired of seeing upto PS1

its been 25+ years of PS2 as well

Its time to have proper PS2 core in retroarch & handheld in under $100

Its just wishful thinking for now

[cobalt rose]

this is the wrong channel to be asking and ranting about this. you're looking for #🤷│what-do-i-buy or possible #💬│marketplace-chat

[upbeat quartz]

I know, hahaha. Powkiddy RGB50 came so close in the category maybe 1 - 2 years to go more needed

[cobalt rose]

if i were to stick the A527 on the generation graph, it would be in the mid-6th-gen-and-under spot

[upbeat quartz]

SOC itself are very powerful now-a-days its optimizing & emulation struggles. Not so easy

[cobalt rose]

eh.... it's not very powerful, and there are unsurpassable reasons for that.

motherboard and ram bottleneck makes it so power difference between 1400mhz and 2000mhz is only like 5-10% increase in output(sometimes more?). overclocking the ram causes instability. overclocking the cpu wastes power. overclocking/overvolting the system bus could fry microcomponents like the wifi chip, so it's best to just wait till a better-built sbc comes if you want more power for cheap.

rk3576 for instance

[upbeat quartz]

You got too technical

[quasi bridge]

rock no think fast, add electricity
rock think faster but work worse
wait for better rock

[cobalt rose]

heh

[upbeat quartz]

PS2 was 300~ Mhz CPU & 42MB RAM just nuts, 4MB Video RAM. It ran GTA SA

Now 8192 MB Video RAM isn't enough to run Games

[cobalt rose]

ps2 had more than that. it also depended on three separate math coprocessors to assist the cpu/gpu. ps2 emulation requires a lot of brute force to cover those firmwares without skipping cycles.

[vapid frigate]

Your explanation was Gorgeous, thank you so much

[cobalt rose]

but in all seriousness, the a527 kinda ties the a311d and s922x right now. all three come from weird little linux/android sbc's for enthusiasts. (Radxa Cubie, Khadas VIM3, and Odroid N2L). They all have similar heat/power throttling issues when used in handhelds

[brittle nymph]

do you happen to know if the 3576 has that issue

I heard the 3588 runs hot and is power hungry but I didn't hear the same thing about the 3576

[cobalt rose]

i don't think an sbc for it exists yet

oh wait, actually you can buy them now, neat

[brittle nymph]

Also I imagine it's still pretty expensive as it can play ps2 well from what I've heard

[cobalt rose]

the wholesale cheaper versions definitely ship with heatsinks

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/p_1601341728712.html?

[brittle nymph]

oh sick

Wonder why companies aren't using it for devices yet

[cobalt rose]

android boxes with rk3576's exist, so that's a thing:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807803500450.html?

eventually someone will ship it to the Recalbox or Batocera devs, and there'll be a flashdrive image to go in that usb-a port. it's just a matter of time

[brittle nymph]

Hold up, only 71 bucks?

🤯

[silent geode]

Someone should buy it and test how PS2 and GC works on it

*I'm talking about rk3576 android boxes and SBCs

[mighty coral]

Yeah, rock4d is pretty affordable

[cobalt rose]

i think what happened is one guy tested the rk3576 against an rk3588 and the whole retro community lost interest. the video had tony hawk on gamecube running decently

https://youtu.be/11RMjsy0hWg?t=272

[keen basalt]

I don’t think that SoC is available for handhelds

Or maybe it’s to expensive/ inefficient/ hot

I remember the only one offering it was that shady seller that sold both the „3562“ and „3576“ to magicx as a hardware+software bundle

[brittle nymph]

Ouch, I thought they were a lot closer than that

[proven root]

There are few devices that's doing the 3576

[cobalt rose]

its a tiny bit stronger/weaker than the t618. refer to t618 reviews for "what can it play????" reference.

[mighty coral]

I know you cant tell much, but is something coming from any manufactor we are familiar with around here?

I am almost tempted to get rock4d, but I would play a bit with armbian and then it would just sit on a shelf...

[proven root]

None from the big players just up and coming ones so might be janky

[cobalt rose]

is sinyorksu/gamemt one of them

i know his E5Ultra is probably next

[kindred terrace]

Look! Two products that have a 4,5 inch 3:2 lcd that do exist

[potent torrent]

ktr1 on the left?

[mortal dirge]

neat

kinda goes to show that the Ace could have been a hair smaller

[kindred terrace]

Ktr1 is quite small for such a big screen, very efficient design

[tough agate]

the ayaneo ace is one hefty boy

[kindred terrace]

Yes, HUGE

[near field]

ooof that ace is huge

the rgb50 should be more comprable to the kt

[tough agate]

rgb50 is the ktr1 done right

(hopefully)

[haughty patrol]

chonky boy got a chonky battery as well

[vast karma]

I like Ayaneo devices a lot. Even with the price tag. But I'm glad I skipped ace

[tough agate]

I feel like the ayaneo micro was needlessly big aswell

it was such a wide device

could have definitely been less wide

[mortal dirge]

well it does have a beefy battery for its size

[vast karma]

Also made it comfier to hold

[kindred terrace]

Ktr1 7000 mah

Ayaneo 6000 mah

slim boy got a chonkier battery than chonky boy

[haughty patrol]

still more than Ayn squeezed into the Odin2 Mini

and they need certainly more cooling than a g99

[ivory kettle]

And in return it had to slap a thin but very wide and tall battery across the entire freaking back of the thing, so there’s literally no place you can fit it to avoid having some part of the battery right on top of the apu (not unless you wanted to use a comparatively smaller battery).

[ivory kettle]

Chonky boy has a chipset that would utterly destroy a battery if they used the same “strategy” the KT-R1 used for fitting a bigger battery.

[kindred terrace]

But it works, doesn’t it?

[ivory kettle]

If by “works” you mean “the literal only reason this can be argued as ‘potentially safe’ is because the G99 was designed to run cooler than most other comparable chips, so you’d potentially need to leave it at max performance almost all day every day to cause actual damage”, then yeah, it worked.

That immediately goes away the second we get to stuff like the aforementioned Pocket Ace, which runs a G3X Gen 2 that unironically needs active cooling to stop itself from thermal throttling.

[kindred terrace]

But I hope the RGB50 will not be a chunky boy

Meanwhile….

[cobalt rose]

just rerelease the rgb10max3pro with a 3:2 panel, 4gb ram, and touch support

[kindred terrace]

Exactly! We don’t need no fucking new rare incompatble soc

Just give us the good one you already have:!

[cobalt rose]

i retired my a527 handheld and put its storage microSD in the pimax portal retro collecting dust in my desk. instant satisfaction returned

[vast karma]

Man. That name

[kindred terrace]

Yeah and call it the rgb10max3pro-classic

[final plover]

Or the RGB10 Max3 Pro Plus

[near field]

rgb10max3proretro

[kindred terrace]

Soon tm

[umbral silo]

Tomorrow 🙏

[cobalt rose]

Very much tempted to put Rainbow 6 Lockdown on the playable GameCube list with the other low tier stuff like city racer, worms 3d, bomberman generations and whatnot

[storm mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-time-pass-gif-9298440535445932845

[compact escarp]

Tomorrow for sure /ref

[mortal dirge]

once y'all cave and back the Ace

then they will consider releasing it

[wicked cloak]

The Ayaneo Pocket Ace?

Powkiddy is waiting for people to buy the rich man's GameBoy Micro

[ivory kettle]

Of course they are, they don’t want to be the first people getting their handhelds in customers hands, then everyone will just focus on the usual powkiddy jank.

If they release after people actually get their AYANEO Pocket Ace’s, then they can get the “same thing with a way weaker chipset but way cheaper in return” buff that the Retroid Pocket Classic got.

[near field]

The longer this delays the better the firmware is gonna be

It might still be bad, but then imagine if it had been rushed by another two months

[silent geode]

But the longer this delays, the bigger possibility we will have a better similar device from Anbernic

Not sure if it's worth to delay this so much

[mortal dirge]

I'll take it

[silent geode]

me too 😄

[kindred terrace]

You know which 4,5 inch 3:2 handheld also has been delayed?

[ivory kettle]

Was this a surprise?

Considering last I checked, ZPG is outright technically closed down? (If it does crop back up, it’ll either be something GKD related, or they’ll only use the ZPG name as a formality).

[ashen elbow]

Did we ever find out more about this guy than what is listed in the initial post?

[tender blaze]

The processor is apparently A527. That's all we know.

[near field]

yeah, a5267, ktr1 screen, looks like rgb10x controls which are supposed to be quite good

[ashen elbow]

Never heard of the A527 before, so even knowing it I don’t know haha. Looking forward to reviews! I still have my RK2023, but I’m considering gifting it to my sister and her four kids/husband.

Will the young youngins even choose to play it instead of their Switch? Hard to say.

[lone wedge]

How much is ut

This is right round psp size right?

PSP has great pocketability

Wonder how well a527 plays ultra portmater games

Screen is same width as PSP but covers the start buttons at the bottom

[cobalt rose]

There's plenty of testing done already for both the e6max, radxa cubie, and helegaly pi versions of the a527 board. This handheld won't perform any differently.

play store, n64, psp, and dream cast are its shining spots.
You get some decent performance for half of 3ds and vita, but not much GameCube or ps2.

Sour spots are CPU -heat-, power drain, and questionable hardware tuning. The motherboard and ram bottleneck makes power scaling past 1400mhz really meager(5-10% at 2ghz)

[lone wedge]

Touch?

Can we dual boot

[kindred terrace]

So, when are they gonna release it?

[near field]

When it’s ready

[atomic drift]

Well the V90S is out now so maybe they'll shift focus to this

[brittle nymph]

I really hope they used the same dpad in this thing that they used in the v90s

[near field]

I think this might use the larger and also good one from the rgb10x

vs the v90s one which I think is the same as the v10

[brittle nymph]

as long as the dpad isn't the one from the rgb30 it's a slam dunk for me

[kindred terrace]

Powkiddy RG50 screen vs Retroid Mini screen

[kindred terrace]

Yeah that is a great d-pad

[lone wedge]

Hmm so the rp mini is right round psp size

[kindred terrace]

$220 shipped mini vs $184 shipped (base) ktr1

[stone sand]

Oled kicking in

[kindred terrace]

The KTR1 is a perfect handheld with only 1 issue. The dpad and buttons are too mushy.

If they put the Anbernic (350,351,353,552) buttons on it and the psvita (retroid picket 3,4,5,mini) d pad on it it would be my perfect handheld

The 3:2 screen is great anc a beautiful compromise for 4:3 and 16:9 stuff

Not good for gameboy (too small) but megadrive, neogeo, arcade, ps2, low switch etc

Those are great

You guys will be lucky if Powkiddy can make the rgb50 for $80 with this screen , the rgb10x d-pad and some great buttons. Then it will be a huuuuge success. A slow starter until the great reviews come out and the mouth-to-mouth commercials will start

[tough agate]

184 for a ktr1 is crazyy

[silent geode]

Oh man I'm still fighting with myself not to order RPMini V2, it looks so good

[vapid frigate]

The Mini V2 is a good looking device

But the buttons are sssoooo loud

[silent geode]

I heard about it, thats really strange too, because I think their devices didnt have this problem in the past with Rp3 and RP4

[kindred terrace]

Cheap yes, that was 2023. The first one that could play switch games for under $200

[tough agate]

I wouldn't call the ktr1 a switch capable machine

[kindred terrace]

It plays all light 2d switch games perfectly fine. Remember, this thing is 2023!

[tough agate]

surely impressive for 2023 however they should have dropped the base price to like 100 bucks by now

184 is ridiculous

[kindred terrace]

It is unavailable to buy now , all sold out

Look at that spreadsheet, there was not one handheld out there under $185 that had that performance 2 years ago

[proven root]

Fuck 4.5 inch meet the 7”

[keen basalt]

@near nova is the only one licensed to post this shit

[kindred terrace]

Up to ps1 , wow, same performance as the GCW Zero from 2013 😍😍😍😍

[proven root]

It’s actually an RK3568 so it plays more tha ps1 🤣

“plays” not “plays well”

[proven root]

He did I just reposted 🤣

[keen basalt]

Ah that’s makes sense

[tough agate]

upto ps1 and joystick on top dont go well together

[ivory kettle]

In what world was it $184? The cheapest you could get it was $199, and nowadays it’s even more expensive unless you look for a used model.

[ivory kettle]

Well, I suppose you can argue it only has that issue alone now, since Gamma helped fix the issues with the screen (of course, that doesn’t help with the poorer qc where some people were getting dead pixels out of the box, and I actively don’t even personally know if it’s still happening or not), and since they at least learned from some of their fuck-ups with the first batches and got rid of that goddamn screw that would dig into the battery, and the speaker polarity issue is at least fixable if you know how to solder and are comfortable opening up these devices…

[kindred terrace]

In my world, the one I have in my hands was 169 plus 15 shipping

[kindred terrace]

What solder? The speaker? That is just a small click / change of two wires.

[cobalt rose]

Trust in sinyorksu. He delivered and fixed things where other single devs abandoned end-users

[near field]

does anyone know how a527 handles portmaster?

does it have the missing libs problem of the a133p or does it work with basically everything on portmaster?

[tiny sun]

I don't think there's a linux build available for the a527 yet, is there?

[compact escarp]

I'll guess that it'll depend on if the chipset gets mainlined or not

[tiny sun]

not really? it can have a bsp kernel

[cobalt rose]

helegaly pi has a closed-source build

[brittle nymph]

why do these companies make anything closed source at this point? good cfw is a big selling point for their devices

[cobalt rose]

Also, the Radxa cubie just has straight-up armbian, so it's users pretty much have free reign

[final plover]

Many of them don’t make them with CFW in mind. The Chinese market doesn’t use CFW nearly as much as we do.

[brittle nymph]

if so why do they always ship with dogshit stock firmware

[final plover]

Because for the general user in that market, it gets the job done

They probably don’t dedicate many resources to working on firmware, either. If they have something that works and they don’t get a ton of complaints from their biggest market, they don’t see any reason to change it

[cobalt rose]

theft and copycats

the point of proprietory parts and software is to reduce market choice and ensure income. Without income, the company dies

this is why some companies will shave off the id's of every chip on their PCB or bolt everything beneath a layer of metal/plastic/whathaveyou that breaks the whole device if removed (thx powkiddy x18s v2 and 3.)
Helegaly is no different. The Pi probably won't release until it is absolutely impenetrable physically or digitally

[wicked cloak]

So making it nearly unusable to a chunk of their consumers?

[proven root]

I mean it is impenetrable before they just gave us a build that you could somehow modify

[cobalt rose]

Maybe there is hope.

[quasi vortex]

It shouldn't do no, what the A133P is missing is a 32bit version of the libmali to powervr compatibility wrapper that TrimUI uses (pls correct me if I'm wrong)

[near field]

so this having a proper mali gpu instead of powerVR should make it work with portmaster well then

that's huge

[mighty coral]

or anbernic and their silly onboard drm chip 😄

[tough agate]

you know what

even though I am much more impressed by the rg slide and rg477m by now

I still think this will be a really great handheld for budget buyers

for 80 dollars definitely a steal

but we'll see

[umbral silo]

I'm looking forward to it for that reason

How does the dual OS work for these devices? Are you usually able to get rid of one to make more room for the other at all?

[near field]

I want this for portmaster - the high res 3:2 should be great

I require pocket shovel knight (which is 5:3)

[proven root]

Shovel Knight 🤣

Cries in Allwinner

Oh wait this has mali

[kindred terrace]

RGB50? RGB47 is gonna be here sooner, by Anbernic

Another competitor for Powkiddy

[muted falcon]

Not really the same price bracket

[proven root]

Demoncity yeah nope not the same price bracket

[near field]

Exactly - I would own a trimUI smart pro already if it had good portmaster support

[frank idol]

I would gladly buy this

[kindred terrace]

Think $249 up

[frank idol]

Here's 300

[little maple]

Man I'm really looking forward to whatever the RGB50 brings.

Might be the first handheld of value with a nice big 3:2 display

[rich plover]

yeah im excited for the screen and the level of performance, hope we get more info soon.

[little maple]

I'm hoping it's an A527 like the π

That'd be a nice chip for something like this

[vapid frigate]

PK taking so Long, ZPG gonna release a Clone soon

[little maple]

Uhh

[little maple]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1355566042830864494

[vapid frigate]

But is it out yet.....

[keen basalt]

That thing is scrapped

[little maple]

RIP

[vapid frigate]

Look how long it took them to get the A1 Unicorn off the ground

[keen basalt]

And how fast the Cube put it back in the ground..

[little maple]

Cube

[keen basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-dead-go-back-go-back-to-sleep-anime-gif-9696593

[little maple]

[muted falcon]

Gkd little jumpscare

[little maple]

BOO GKD 3:2

[muted falcon]

It's hideous

[little maple]

That's what my parents said too
But unlike the GKD Little I'm still here

[proven root]

what

[keen basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457672688656187392/1279480118925987870/IMG_3759.gif

[wicked cloak]

Wtf

[frank idol]

this devicxe is linux able?

[wicked cloak]

The helegaly that might have the same chip comes with a Linux build

[near field]

Should be

If it’s android only it’ll be a fun budget handheld but not something I’ll pick up

[tough agate]

uhm what??

no headphone jack and no bluetooth?

where did that information come from?

[wicked cloak]

Wait

I can kind of understand not including one of those, but not having either just gimps the device

[umbral silo]

I'm guessing that's automated based on the limited information supplied

[near field]

No headphone jack would be a hard dealbreaker for me on any retro handheld

It’s not waterproof or paper thin, there is zero reason to omit it

[ruby garden]

Retro catalogue is wrong a lot.

It's also claiming the Zone 2, with a hx370, will be $800.

I mean...no.

https://retrocatalog.com/retro-handhelds/zotac-zone-2

[jade hound]

Take that information with a pinch of salt until the device is actually released

[cobalt rose]

Its apparently a pain

If the engineers are like 'we don't have the chips available; do you still want it?' And the dev says yes, you get a device with no bluetooth

[brittle nymph]

I sincerely hope it actually has bluetooth

[kindred terrace]

lol, as if this device ever will be released

[wicked cloak]

The fact that Powkiddy has released devices with wifi capable chipsets with no wifi. They literally just did it with the V90s

The bluetooth at least isn't that weird for them

[proven root]

Almost everything lately is V20, X35S, X35H

[wicked cloak]

Exactly

[lone wedge]

This is going to be a good pm device

[brittle nymph]

Do we know how much ram the rgb50 is supposed to have

[lone wedge]

Is ids interested in this device

Is progamer

I need to see how this compares to the psp

In terms of size

[proven root]

we all need to “see” it

[haughty patrol]

it has a 3:2 screen, take a wild guess

tho I already ordered the Ayaneo Pocket ACE

[proven root]

https://tenor.com/view/multiversx-egld-egold-nft-crypto-gif-4129262860070812304

[lone wedge]

Mockup of how that compares to PSP?

[haughty patrol]

it's Vita sized, PSP is too small for a g3x gen2

[lone wedge]

It's the same screen as the ktr1 it's not that large compared to a psp

[lone wedge]

Is it?

How is it vita sized?

Are the bezels big?

[shy prawn]

KT-R1 is only slightly smaller than the vita, and slightly larger (vertically) than the PSP.

[lone wedge]

Oh my

They're like the same size I'm buying this right now

Where

The ppi is amazing

Android plus linux

How thick is this

[lone wedge]

Console to screen looks very tasty

How thick is this compared to a psp 2001

When does this come out

Where did the fuckery department touch it

How are the buttons and sticks and triggers

Is this rocknix

Or balatro

Batocera

Not balatro

How's the dpad

[lone wedge]

Analog triggers?

[tough agate]

😂

like u ever cared about ppi

[lone wedge]

After buying a PSP I understand the importance of ppi

I don't like seeing pixels

Otherwise I dgaf

Integer scaling!!!

Do we have dimensions

Or button details

Who has this?

[proven root]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-amy-santiago-no-one-nobody-not-anyone-gif-22788571

[tough agate]

I think what you actually don't like seeing is a low quality screen from the 2000s with ghosting and blurriness

[lone wedge]

No the ghosting isn't an issue

It's just that kratos' head is five pixels tall

[lone wedge]

How long until someone does

[proven root]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-guess-kanye-west-we-never-know-gif-5417590

[languid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-checking-time-waiting-gif-348969443552659479

[lone wedge]

He won't reveal the name

[lone wedge]

Imma wait for the super sp with this

Why do they buy brick sized edcs when psp sized edcs are neater

[wicked cloak]

Me and all my widescreen horizontals

I agree

[near field]

I remember when the psp came out people complained it was too big for pockets compared to the GBA, especially since by that point it was the GBA SP

people talking about 'psp leg'

[lone wedge]

PSP looks so good and it's the perfect siE

I genuinely cannot wait for this handheld

Pojavlauncher and portmaster in one pocket sounds amazing

Brotato portmaster

Is this the a523

Oh man the a527 is way stronger than the a133

Brotato will run

[wicked cloak]

Is that like phone bulge? I just accept that as a part of life because I don't like small devices

[lone wedge]

Actually how much stronger is this than an a133p

The benchmarks are all over the placd

[wicked cloak]

Somewhere between the rk3566 and T618

[cobalt rose]

as the first tester in this group, i put it just beneath s922x

aka the odroid go ultra, which could easily play double dash, rainbow six 3, and dead or alive dimensions. the a527 only gets up to around 80% speed in those games

[near field]

I feel like at this point we have great options for sixth gen so what we really need from the a527 is to do significantly better n64/psp/dc than the 3566

saturn/ps2/gc can stick to sd865

[cobalt rose]

toss it all in mupen64plus-ae(or fz?), ppsspp, and redream

ae is 2014-old, but it allowed older chipsets to run n64 smoothly during its time

[haughty patrol]

but way closer to the rk3566 tbh, even the t610 still runs laps around it

[tough agate]

the t610 is way more powerful than the rgb50

[lone wedge]

Is was

[lone wedge]

In emulation?

Not portmaster

[lone wedge]

Damn

Do you have a Linux build?

[kindred terrace]

So we are more than 2 months talking, when is it coming?

[near field]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-ready-yet-jake-gyllenhaal-saturday-night-live-unprepared-its-still-not-good-to-go-gif-25521783

[wicked cloak]

I'm cool with that, give me more psp and below devices at $80 - $120.

$150 should not be the cheapest psp device. There are phones less than $100 that run psp perfectly

That's my Ted talk thank you

[near field]

we need someone else to make the miyoo p60 that never was

some small widescreen candybar with a chip just good enough for psp

size reference

[haughty patrol]

I mean, MagicX Pocket would be pretty close if they make it

[wicked gulch]

I'm kinda done with magic x they refuse to admit anything is cancelled which makes their upcoming line up huge

[keen basalt]

They kinda over shared too much

But keeping conception lvl stuff locked away in their own discord without announcing it or giving it as release date like their doing right now, seems fine

[cobalt rose]

I like playing handhelds that actually exist.

[storm mountain]

I miss this device

[lone wedge]

Don't consider it an announcement