#Retroid Pocket 6
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fuck Taki and his pyramid schemes
your cancellation will be send in up to 12months when he scammed someone else out of their money to pay you back
Retroid should hire Taki back on to get some sensible designs going again... just don't let him put Select & Start on the top of the device this time XD
I'm confused. I've ordered from Retro remake before and it was fine lol
Or is this some kind of meme?
I remember at the time people were defending the start and select buttons being on the top
It was maddening
Any handheld you can't play super metroid on is no true handheld
Oh, the button layout of the RP3+ was definitely designed by a meth addict.
After playing my RP3+ every single day for more than a year I can't use a Switch without instinctively reaching up and tapping the cartridge port every time I want to pause a game lol It's been years since the RP3+ and the muscle memory is still there.
Playing the RP3+ made me go and get a RG505 instead. Which was nice until Anbernic's quality control kicked in and it broke.
As weird as some of the design choices were I still don't think I've ever loved a handheld as much as I loved my RP3+. It couldn't play GameCube or PS2 but played everything below that beautifully, and it was so slim and lightweight that I carried it around with me absolutely everywhere and played it constantly every day.
Then the RP4 Pro came along and the overall design was a lot better, but it was also thicker and much heavier (it felt like a brick in my hands, really) so I didn't play it nearly as much even though it was a more capable and better designed device.
It played about 2/3 of Gamecube, I had Beyond Good and Evil humming on it.
With Retroid listening to feedback can we have a flatback campaign and ditch ergo grips
They didnt do this with RP Mini V2 when it made the most sense to
In these troubling times, I'll think back to my ol' reliable RP3+. Not a controversy in sight, the good ol' days
Felt like a good era for Retroid. The classic is good too right?
I was tempted but I have too many similar devices.
2022 was such an amazing year for retro handhelds. We got the Retroid Pocket 3+, the Steam Deck, original AYN Odin, and Onion OS came to the Miyoo Mini.
the classic is good yes
sucks they went from the near flawless classic launch to this shitshow
I mean the G2 seems nice.
I think we'd probably all be super excited for the G2 right now if the RP6 wasn't announced at the same time lol
they should have only launched 1 product is the main issue that happened
my personal opinion is the g2 should have been the chip for the rp6
Fair.
I honestly don’t like the look of the rp5 and 5+
Too boxish
Never liked it to begin with
I love my RP5.... but I also loved the trimui smart pro.... guess I have a "type"
Trimui needs to make a high end device
Having a Vita style device that weak is unfortunate
i dunno, if the heat map is equal to performance for them then the high end device might actually burn someone 
And now I'm over here contemplating whether to get the Aya Neo Pocket Air Mini or just buy a RP4 Pro again to reminisce about the good old days lol I just need something smaller than the Steam Deck that doesn't have an all-glass front and is less than 7.5" wide so it won't take up too much room in my sling bag.
Heat could be what makes the Retroid G2 more comfortable over the RP6. If the chip in it runs cool (the snap 8 gen 2 is a hot one IMHO) then that means I don't have to worry too much about fans or comfort.
none of retroids past few devices have gotten even close to hot, there really isnt a worry there
Good to know
I dove in on the 5.... and now I dont want to play with my anbernic/trimui stuff no more lol
they sat 9+months on my money and the first mail that reached me was the cancellation of my order - apparently there was a mail you had to confirm if you wanted to keep your order up... just never got that one... neither the info mails nor any response from their support... like literally the only mails were the order confirmation and the cancellation - , with the mention that a refund will take place later 😂
Update:
The Pocket G2 is still available.
Their communication needs work for sure as not everybody is active on discord, but I had a great experience with my Super5 OLED, it was delayed but Taki kept us all informed of what was happening on their end and I received an even better product than I originally hoped for.
Oh they cancelled the rp6 good
2023 we got the Windows Z1E Handhelds such as ROG Ally and Legion Go. As well as Retro handhelds finally emulating PS2 with the release of RP4 Pro and Odin 2. We also got the Miyoo Mini Plus. Things havent really moved on since 2023. SDG2 is still pretty much highend and emulators havent kept up. Z2E isnt that much better than Z1E (which was quite a but better than Deck chipset).
War is over
RP404
RIP
meanwhile I got nothing, lost a bit of money due to the USD going down in those 9+months and bought a Switch Lite to mod with the panel that now collects dust 👍
Like I said, they need to work on their communication, if they contacted you properly that probably wouldn't have happened so that's absolutely something they need to work on.
It'll be interesting to see if Retroid really does end up offering both stick options
I wonder if they’ll pull a Retroid DS and just refund everyone automatically
that was a specular fuck up since they resolved the issue that prompted them to refund a couple days later, so probably not
unless the rp6 really did die
in which case RIP, y'all killed it
I wonder if these handhelds where both being shipped at the same time in the next couple of days would they have sold more, waiting until January is too long of a wait for me
They should auto refund all the rp6 actually and set a new date for preorder, if they going ahead with the design change
Might as well scrap it and just release the Pocket 43 (4:3 OLED) 
RIP bozo, or so the kids say
Its always interesting to see how they mess up with every release lol you'd think they would learn from past mistakes but they somehow find a way to cause issues for themselves lol
Underrated joke
So people that preordered the RP6 might be getting something they never ordered ( stick on top )?
If anything they should extend the EB pre-order phase and release renders of the final product people are spending real money on , I actually didn't mind the original design, I just wasn't crazy about it in general because I already have a O2 and kind of redundant getting the same thing essentially but with OLED .
It's a crazy good deal but if Retroid really wanted to redesign they should of just got rid the 4 buttons underneath and have the sticks and Dpad more offset but still keep the sane exact size
What ever happened to garlic os? Never hear about it these days
Perfect end with version 1.4.9
The sequel never quite found it's footing.
It was killed before it was even born

RP 6 ....it died for our sins RIP
did they pause cause of design issue
i dunno why they ask about design now.. they can always change in the next model
i appreciate they care about our input though
Maybe should of asked before not after
if rp6 design with stick on top. dont cannabilize all the ayn odin 2 series handheld as now 8gen2 can be bought at 209 over the ayn odin 2 at around 300 dollar.
thats why they put dpad top. if u want stick on top. buy ayn odin 2 instead. ayn and retroid sister companies they help each other.
rp6 stick on top will cannabilize ayn odin 2 series handheld. it is a major problem.
O2 will probably stop being made and once stock is gone its gone
No sense selling it with the O3
Out soonish
I’m not so worried about cannibalizing sales or anything, more worried about losing the thing that makes retroids unique
I have no skin in the game as I already have a O2 but still find this whole situation messed up.
I guess if you like drama order a Retroid
company put profit as their goal in order to survive and thrive in this hyper competitive retro handheld environment.
This is kinda like when Sega had to redo sonic the hedgehog for his damn movie with the exception in this case that half still want him to look like his old self
Ahhh it’s over
They're probably questioning their identity now.
Ooofff
you didnt ask for this right? they just did it on their own?
Im so pumped for my damn Teal G2 lol
But I'm bummed that everyone isn't getting what they want here. The more happy nerds, the better.
The community asked for this and Retroid respond with a redesign, I don't see anything bad. The user of rp5 like new controller config have a reason to buy a rp6 and the other in the majority of new controller config
I had the most gorgeous looking Vita shaped handheld with dpad on top flashed in front of me and then mercilessly torn away, how is that not anything bad??? 😭
Buy the g2
Bro only read dpad on top
i think retroid listen to this community, they will relaunch rp6 shortly and rename
as rp6 with stick on top.
they it will sell well and odin 2 series force to slash their prices soon.
I hope they go back to the old design or make a new one rather than just using the rp5 design
I would rather a funky looking design than a unoriginal one
yeah i dont mind the stick on top, but i hope they stick to the original design
Retroid:
they follow abit of konkr fit templates make the device more ergonomic and put stick on top. this will ensure that users will have great time with the devices.
no more rectangle shape device.
it will be xbox and ps5 controller shape , more comfortable for longer playing time.
Retroid: "We're a different company than AYN!"
Also Retroid: pulls the RP6 so they can rerelease the Odin 2 Mini in some new colors instead
Id be down for a refreshed odin 2 mini with more color
https://xcancel.com/BobWulff/status/1983379517449347153
basically what I've been saying all day tbh
Oh yeah theyve never made a new 2D dpad game once widescreen became a thing
Yeah, but also he's a tech YouTuber. He owns dozens of devices and the most powerful of them as well. I can see someone like that preferring the d-pad top whenever he wants to play 2D games.
Asking the general public to spend 200 bucks on a flagship d-pad top device is a different story.
(Also it didn't sell, why do people just ignore that fact.)
All I know is the reason I buy Retroid devices is because they're D-pad top. If I wanted a powerful handheld with analog stick top there are a dozen other options on the market for that. The D-pad top layout is what makes Retroid special.
We don't have sales values. It's speculation at best
We do have percentage popularity of colors and specs but that's it
From Retroid David
Man, this is so tiresome. Ignoring reality because it doesn't fit one's preference is just pointless.
This is their community manager telling you the sales were so bad they had to change. Feel free to ignore reality if that makes you feel better, but this isn't speculation, it isn't a rumour. It is Retroid telling you there weren't enough people pre-ordering.
It's literally speculation unless they actually say what happened (which they obviously won't)
Sure. The sales of their product were great, that's why they had to change all of it and cancel the pre-orders.
Some great logic there.
I never said that.
I just don't know what to say anymore. Words apparently don't mean anything anymore and some people live in a different reality.
I said that saying their sales was low was speculation which is all I've said. Unless we have hard evidence of sales numbers it will remain speculation.
Dude it was a less than like 24 hour period and he didn't even say sales were bad you are just interpreting his words that way. You are the one choosing to live in a different reality
Also the backlash was largely due to the design not the dpad
you dont redesign a product thats selling well
especially not after you opened preorders
so, it didnt sell well
factor in both devices having near the same price and specs
no wonder .........
would cause cancellation tbh
what will happen to our pre order?
RP6 is gone from the site
Probably won't know anything until the morning at least
Love how Retroid is boldly abandoning the thing that made them unique so they could be just another high-end stick-top device amid an ocean of stick-top devices.
Per Chris and David, they're seeing a way to offer both stick/dpad configurations. At least as of like 12 hours ago
I think the other possibility is we're just at a market saturation point. People now have PS2 and below on multiple devices and... there's not much beyond that. What is on PS3 that hasn't been remastered or gotten a PC release?
If that gets pushed through then the only question is if the redesign to the face buttons/speakers is going to be a deal breaker. If they redesign it, that is
Then essentially releasing basically this again for the dozenth time wouldn't help saturation tbh
At this point the market for that sounds like people upgrading from older retroid devices or people looking for an 8gen2 but haven't been able to get like an Odin 2 or something on sale.
Tokyo Jungle, The Last Guardian, and The House of the Dead 4 are the only ones that come to mind for me.
Little Big Planet
Tony Hawk's project 8
Shh, we don't like basic logic in here. They didn't cancel the product due to bad sales, they did it due to the vibes. Because that's how companies operate.
anyone can send me retroid discord grp
You may say that's a gif of Kerbit vibing, but that's just speculation.
#🌍│links_shops message
Links to various companies' Discords are there
How's everyone after the great Retroid Crash of October 2025?
No I asked for it, they’re not automatically doing it
Pretty alright. Having some iced coffee, watching an old Retro Game Corps review of the RP4 Pro, and just finished Sonic 3 Complete on my RG35XX H. 🙂
clowns who want retroid stick top 
ABXY in physical Xbox layout
Definitely better than the Nintendo one, IMO.
And a horn that plays la cucaracha
Ships with it as a default notification sound.
We don't need no dang horny handhelds! Powkiddy shipping the RGB10 Max 2 with Pornhub built in was enough XD
Even that has better ergos than Retroid
Enhanced for one handed use I'm sure
This an unfortunate but factually accurate statement.
I'm hoping RNS is feeling better today, that was a rough day
I think the RGB10 Max 2 was also the device that in spite of having two speaker holes actually only had one speaker inside, and used the screen as a heatsink which led to some white spots on the screen unrelated to the included software. You win some, you lose some I guess.
I can't believe I've woken up this morning and my brain is like "Maybe I should just get the G2"
I'm probably not getting either
Me neither, just intrusive morning coffee thoughts
I'll probably just spend the money upgrading the guns on my arcade cab
I have my coffee now 😄 then it's therapy appointment and gym
"So tell me about your day yesterday?"
"So I fought in the great handheld Civil War yesterday."
"The what."
Well, people freaked the fuck out over a handheld delay including one lovely chap who had a meltdown
I feel that. I've been considering just trying to get over my profound dislike of all-glass fronts and getting the G2 as well, if they end up making the RP6 left analog stick top at least.
Might still consider an RP6 as a gift for one of my family members later down the road.
Dpad top on any sku if they decide to do both will be more familiar to them having grown up with Playstation, but I don’t think they’ll care that much
Very dear. Very slay.
If only people put this much attention and care into more important things, the world would be a better place 😄
I've sworn off Retroid now anyway, so I'll just wait for the moment. Still love my RPC though but at least there's no semantics about stick placement there lol
At the end of the day, we’re still getting an 8gen2 + OLED device for ~$200 ($250 for 12gb) which is amazing value for anyone who still has yet to get a higher-end device
Don’t think I’ll get one for myself as much as I really like the silver and orange options, but definitely keeping an eye on it
But its a horror and retroid should feel bad 🙁 😄
I'd rather deal with a djinn at the crossroads than give Retroid anymore money
What a shitshow 😄
I’m hoping next year will be more financially stable for me so I can save up money for the Odin 3 I want 🙏
Im trying to be good and not pick up anything new. Bought a lot this year
Not getting the Odin 3 at launch is actually the best thing to do, objectively. That chip needs drivers and such. You're doing the right thing, voluntarily or not. Hope things will work out for you financially. 
Yeah things are challenging. Been trying to get my physical and mental health under some control
Me too but I've sold most of it and broken relatively even! Yet to find the Goldilocks handheld for me, but I guess that's the point in that there will never be one and there's always the next thing
The o2 portal is mine ❤️
It's been a lot. Especially considering how traditional consoles get more and more expensive while handhelds get cheaper and the value just keeps rising. And FOMO is a biatch.
I had it briefly - lovely device but just a bit large for what I wanted sadly
406h, portal and oled steam deck are my trinity 😄
I'm still searching for my middle one. Ally Z1E (SteamOS) and RPC are mine right now
When do they decide what the rp6 is going to be?
I have an ally 🙂 bought it last month while my steam deck was out for repair
£250 with the upgraded battery. Not quite 100% batrery health but still get about 5 hours playing Rune factory guardians of azuma 😄
Lovely device (also ebay purchase ~£250) I did the JSaux battery update too and slapped in some Sakura buttons
Ahhh. I scrapped windows so hard when SteamOS launched
Definitely recommend the buttons if you ever want to mod further (I'm still thinking about upgrading the DPad too)
abomination of a control scheme
Can you play bf6?
Nope, kernel level anticheat not on linux.. but I don't play FPS on handhelds anyway
Could do it through Geforce Now or Moonlight if I really wanted to
trimui needs to redresh Model S
Bf6 free to play coming later today. Gotta change to windows as bf6 runs great even on a potato
Fair but I really don't like playing FPS on handhelds so not scrapping my convenient SteamOS for that
Also it's nice to get an hour away from the Wife and sit in the office playing BF
What games do you play on it?
Racing games (Sonic Crossworlds etc), CRPG's (Rogue Trader), Indies - Ball x Pit, Ace Combat
Sonic crossworlds runs at 60fps for it?
Heard it struggles
Works great at 60fps for me!
Tried ballxpitt, gave me a headache, instant refund lol
Fair!
Have not tried the other 2 games though
Have do you play RTS games without touch screen?
I mean touchpad
Like steam deck
I don't, I save RTS games for mouse/keyboard and I play very few these days outside of maybe Tempest Rising
That's whats stopping me from getting it. RTS plays great on steam deck as it has a touchpad
I cant move my cursor precisely with a joystick for the life of me
AI?
seems too elabore for ai 😄 Ai would derp it way harder ... so porbably person with photoshop
Source?
Give us the source
#1432180264746094602 message
What's that
link to retroid discord
Invite me
invite ink is here https://www.goretroid.com/pages/about-us
Though they didn't remember to take it off the main page lol
its okey
This went well
Someone will speed run Dark Souls on this.
war for cybertron! 3d dot game heroes! 🙁 pls relese them on pc 🙁
non-stick shoulders, unusable
well, maybe don't drop the product on sale a few hours after announcing it so people get a chance to hear about it... so you don't have to panic because "nobody bought it", when nobody even heard about it yet... yesterday evening a bunch of folks popped into the RP6 channel who just heard about the device due to the drama 😂
you wanna buy a shitty RP5 again? just wait for the RP6 re-design 😂
haha nah, it's the same kind of thing as waking up and thinking I should buy a bar
If the RP6 does end up getting the stick on top redesign, I will actually be pretty tempted to get it, but I need to remember that I haven't used my O2M nearly enough
Oh also got my cancellation confirmation about 7 hours ago, any news on yours?
I thought I was just out of the loop but Retroid really gave people no time to plan their budgets before putting this thing on sale and then complained when nobody preordered.
nope, nothing, despite sending a mail to request it 😂
maybe they go by orders and are still stuck on the first five minutes, I just bought it like 24hours ago
Why would you get the RP6 when you have an Odin Mini though? The extra half-inch of screen?
Could be, I did buy it in the first hour
Vita-like design and d-pad on top... oh wait, we gotta toss that 😂
That's exactly my point
But also, AFAIK, refresh rate makes a decent impact to latency
And the RP6 screen is 120Hz
yeah a 120hz 5.5" ain't exactly what I expected, but I would have taken it... even if Ayns 6" screen was what I expected
honestly if they do stick on top, what even is the point, my THOR should be here in 1-2 days, that already has that 😂
Odin Lite when it starts getting hit by stray bullets
Still a pretty big price difference
Doesn't make a difference for you though
just kidding, but by just offering the same for a bit cheaper they ain't gonna sell a lot
I don't think we can make any assumptions based on your purchasing behaviour mate. 
like the KONKR is just better value than an RP6 with stick on top and a shitty unergonomic design
I skipped out on Konkr largely because I wasn't confident that I'd actually use it as much as I'd like to. Same applies here
You'd buy a digital frame without any buttons if it played SMB3.
nah, I have enough tablets/phones I don't use, what would be the point 
funniest thing Arthur could pull would be to release a KONKR Pocket Vita now tho 
Just realised it's possible to Dragon Cheese after all...
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dont worry.
rp6 will be reborn soon.
it will have better ergonomic like
odin2 , konkr fit and odin 3.
as furthermore stick will place on top, dpad below. it will be a sellout at 209 dollar
I still don't get the G2 device. Why even do that
Because it's smaller than RP6. I happen to like devices in the TSP size range. Going from 280 grams to 320 grams is also a decent weight increase.
It'll be the same as every other device in a saturated market. 👍
its just the RP5 pro/plus under a different name
my earlier suggestions.
rp6 type1 dpad on top.
rp6 type 2 stick on top.
i post that, someone mention this is impossible due to high production cost.
RP5+
Mind games
RP5.2
dpad and analog superpositioned on top of each other until you open the box, collapsing the wavefunction
(you always get the variant you didn't want)
I’d get the G2 but I really hate the RP5 design
you can prob get a rp5 for a massive discount instead
The Retroid Lootbox
idk the g2 chip but it's worse than the 8gen2 right
ofc
G2 is a much newer chip and I like it but I hate the device design
buy a massively discounted p2mini
2 hours left
2 hours till what
Til the already decided polls end
Doesn’t exactly look like a landslide
time to join retroid discord and vote for the shittiest options possible
Stay safe
impossible to reach without ungripping device
i remember owning the psp and I had to stretch a bit to hit select/start, the rp6 old design has the buttons farther in
huh, the rp6 old design is huge compared to the psp
How long till we see how bad they fucked up the new design
"We heard you, so we're making both!!"
“We already have loads of G2s made but nobody is buying them, we should make the rp6 ugly as fuck to push more G2s”
- Select colors only for the losing side
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- Black
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- First 500 units, order now!
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You can still buy the accessories 
Yeaaahhh that might actually happen tbh
Probably just two colors available
what about doing ayaneo does and making swappable modules
who will buy g2 when for 10 dollar u got now improve version of rp6 with stick on top and better ergonomics
"Here we made the original design in limited capacity and the colours you don't want, but it'll break after 1 month and we'll just RMA it with the new design anyway"
XDDDD
What is this chad move
it just saves the entire console
from trash design to very good
with just two polls
to admit what is wrong
I don't think I've ever seen such a good move by device maker
getting the opportunity to unfail a device
Please drop the alt, Chris.
Yes it just saves the entire device
it was pretty bad and becomes goated
the new design re-adds all the old problems from the rp5.
Im confused by the new timeline of this great crisis
which are ?
rp5 had a bad positioned stick
I agree, the chin was ugly. I still would have preferred an RP4 callback instead of RP5 design but I’ll take the redesign over chin.
Stick top and back buttons is also something I favor.
Essentially an Odin 2 Mini S now
Very uncomfortable without a added grip apparently
Yes, with less borders if it's really that design
so it's much better
we back to rp5 now
rp5 had a left stick bottom
this may have a left stick top
sticks too close to the other controls so you rub against the stick cap while pressing the B button, speakers small and positioned in a way you're likely to cover them with your palm or thumb
The rp5 did not feel great to hold ergonomically without a grip
the design that moved the speakers under the screen made more room for controls and fixed both those issues.
how is that any different from the odin 3 then? like 0.5 inches makes a difference
yes but you can buy the grip separately
it's not, buy the Odin 3 if you have more money ofc
Oh awesome just release a console that feels like shit to hold
it's just better for people with less money that want something a bit lighter
The previous RP6 design wasn't better to hold
It’ll be smaller and have worse audio, but at a cheaper price. That’s the only difference
It was at least taller with the buttons underneath
why would retroid basically just want to make an inferior odin 3 if they could capitalize on it having a dpad on top as a feature?
it doesn't change much I think
because it's not a good feature on a $200 device
you buy an $200 device for 3D games
Retroid chris can i get a refund on my preorder please
Bc as the polls suggest, the feature isn’t wanted 
Let me know when you get back on your main account
- Retroid Pocket 6 is an inferior Odin 3 anyway, why try to get around it by pretending it's not
so many 2d games require 8 gen 2
like ?
skong
Not really though, 865 is perfectly capable of indie winlator games
Good to see things are going well today
How about you buy the Odin 3 then.
Not the same price, but yes, Odin 3 is better
if you want to emulate 2d games at 120hz something like dead cells, hollow knight, ori
Imo they should give the option for ppl who went a top D-Pad, but it shouldn't be the default
the sameification of the hobby sucks
Ori might be a bit more demanding but dead cells and hollow knight play just fine through emulation and also have android ports
Yes but it seems more niche than every 3D game you could run with a top left stick
It doesnt matter at this point they may as well stop preorders until they sort this shit out
that's stupid, those people should have bought the odin 3 by now, are they just salty cause they missed the early bird discont and want to try their luck with retroid instead?
Moorechip seems to think people too cheap to pony up to the Odin 3 will be swayed, they wont.
I'm going to tell people I was here for the retroid civil war of 2025
I think they should have polled people who pre-ordered specifically, and not people who didn't and just voted to defend their Odin design because they pre-ordered the Odin
I'm curious how they will react to the new numbers.
Man
Odin 3 retail is $100 more than an Rp5 RP6 and less pocketable.
D-pad centric gamers should be fine with the RP5 sd 865 and plethora of other devices like trimui smart pro and such.
but I still think that top left stick is better for a majority of games, since you can also play 2D games with the stick anyway
Well they can't go much lower than they apparently already were
you mean more than rp6?

We'll find out.
Yes, rp6 / rp5 base price
playing dpad games with a stick is disgusting
why ?

no precision or feedback
you just do left/right but with the stick
Switching designs while the pre-order was open inspires no confidence, even before getting into the design.
nahnahnahnahnah
imagine if retroid could just reveal a product and sell it like anbernic
instead of every release being an amateur hour nonsense clown fiesta
the rp6 is 200 dollars?
I mean its possible to have precision with a stick, I beat celeste with a stick my first playthrough, I wouldn't do that now but it's not that bad
Yesterday I was watching the infamous Taki video and most of his complaints still apply.
how long until moorechip just folds retroid entirely into ayn and dumps the name
The only benefit I see for wanting dpad on an sd 8g2 RP6 is if you want BFI for your indies and lower-level emu / platforming stuff
They really have next to no idea what the market wants.
They just landed this niche.
the benefit is there is variety in the hobby
Yeah $209
but you can buy the G2 model then
email sent for refund
The RP5 exists which the RP6 is a clone of.. just a much more powerful chipset and 120hz
how is that possible when the rp5 is the same price?
yeah, so keep it with the same layout
historically Retroid has always moved more units than AYN so idk
Dude, i’m referring to rp5 price as it is now.. it’s still $200 until rp6 releases
also this thing isn’t coming out til like February at the earliest right? If the 1st iteration wasn’t shipping out til Jan?
yeah cause cheaper devices sell more units
Yeah it's going to be a minute, more than enough time for them to announce the rp mini 2
and the rp ds "oops all dpads" edition
We don’t have a oled stick top 5.5” yet at ~$200. There is the variety we need. Odin 3 is not pocketable and much more expensive
nearly 10 thousand people had an opinion on this, that's wild
I just think going with joystick on top is very stupid since that puts it competing with the odin 3 way too much, they would be nearly identical
It’s the first time I logged into twitter / x in 2 years. Just to cast a vote lmao
I made a Twitter account just for this poll
honestly, as someone who was gonna grab an RP5, this whole thing kinda just makes we wanna grab a G2
are all those 6 thousand people completely obvious of ayn??
rg556 and rg557
yeah this is at the root of the problem; you either see this as a cheaper Odin 3, in which case you want stick top, or as a distinctive product of its own, in which case you want dpad top
Ayn is a lot more expensive than most want to spend in this hobby just to get their emulation fix
Surely this will translate into sales.
Good point, but those big handles are way too bulky for a pocket
what's the point of rp5 analog stick top when odin2 portal exists? just lowered price?
well this is certainly higher numbers than the 3 people that preordered the late rp6
Neither of those are pocketable, also just mediocre handhelds for multiple reasons
don't these people fuck up my rp flip 3
so what's ayn gonna do with their o2 portal stock?
i know but that spec list was so random
current poll should keep out people that already own/owned a o2 device or preordered a o3
what we really don't have is any 8 gen 2 d pad top device
It's retrover bros... Stick top is our new overlord
yea they prefer stick top and already own one
So people want the rp6 to be joystick on top so they can have their cheap odin3?
if y’all want a stick top just go on Grindr
So I can have my odin 2 mini portal
and then you'll get stick top as the winner, but that doesn't mean people who bought/own an Odin weren't going to buy this
Someone ping me whe the new design drops

the size is so close to the Odin 3 though... the overlap is big
is that 0.5 inches really that significant? it wont even make it pocketable
I just don't see a situation where people who bought a high-end handheld switch versions yearly like that, at least in the quantity Moorechip hopes.
it's literally the same size as the odin 3
Actually yeah it is
Odin 2 mini portal goes so hard. We get pocketability and back buttons. Pair this with XR glasses when you want bigger screen / dock it. It will feel good in the hands and lightweight to play current gen stuff / stream
At this point, they should just delay this for a few more months and just release the RPG2 for the time being
no you don't the rp5 is already too wide to fit inside pockets nicely
Pocketability wise, big difference that .5” makes
stick top rp6 is like if anbernic instead of releasing the rgcubexx, rg35xxsp, and rg40xxv they release the rg35xx, rg35xx +, and the rg35xx pro
yeah, rp5 really isn't pocketable unless you have huge pockets and it's the only thing in them
(i can fit an odin 2 in my pocket if i really want to, but no)
that is a very skewed example cause the og odin 2 has big bezels, while the rp5 doesn't
I wonder if Anbernic will respond to this making more d-pad top options.
the Odin 3 is smaller than the Odin 2 though, on account of removing the screen bezels, is closer to the rp5 in size now
the odin 2 isn't valid as a 6 inch example anymore, look at the amount of bezel
It’s nearly the same size as a Vita which I have no problems pocketing whatsoever. It’s like the limit I tolerate for a quick shove it on a pocket while I transfer trains or walk around the house
The odin 3 is almost an inch longer than the rp5, that is actually a pretty big difference in pocketability
It's a ps vita that has protruding sticks, stacked triggers and is too long to be considered pocketable, the edge of pocketability for most people is the ps vita and the 3ds xl
None of these are pocketable, if you walk around with an rp5 in your pocket you're a goober
I’m just gonna grab a G Nano
not even in winter coat pockets
i'd only pocket an rg nano or 28xx, i have a backpack with me at all times anyway
I do agree the Vita 1000 is my preferred limit. But the RP5 wasn’t so bad either. Iike I said, for my usecase. It goes into a pocket for like 5 min max as I transfer trains or head to lunch. I can tolerate the RP5 but wouldn’t do that with an Odin 2 per say
But yeah no point in buying these if I don't plan on pocketing them, if I have to bring a bag then I'm bringing a pc handheld
personally the non-pocketable but still small category of handhelds isn't very appealing to me to begin with
i like the light weight
i usually play games that aren't very controls intensive so low weight even sacrificing comfort is nice
That's why I'm not very interested in the odin 3 🤷♂️, that and a core hs is around the same size and price
I use to bring my steam deck, or switch 2 or f1 pro on my commutes but just didn’t like the heft in my bag from carrying those.
I now mainly bring either analogue pocket or a modded gba. I prefer to only bring small devices even if I have to backpack.
what I've learned that you cannot pocket a handheld with a 5.5 inch screen if it's a horizontal, the limit would be 5 inches if 16:9 and 5.3 inches if 3:2
It also just feels weird taking one of these bigger handhelds out of my bag, which is within a travel case and plopping down on train while I’m squeezed next to everyone lol.
With the smaller handhelds, It’s just take out of my bag and play while being less inconspicuous.. and pocketing in a moment’s notice when I need to for a short time.
now that I think of it, you know what, I don't really think it matters at all that this is analog on top, cause the rp g2 is releasing and that is almost the same preformance
you only loose out on the 120hz
As a consolation, people should voice to Retroid to use the 120hz same screen on G2. Then everyone’s happy.. unless they also want sd8g2
Why stop there? The human eye can't see the difference between Snapdragon and Dimensity.
Different design and colors
Cuz listen I’ve been in the hobby long enough that yes, I do care about incredibly small and insignificant aesthetic differences
LMAO. Retroid discord made a 5 minute wait time between messages
smh they just won't get it
they clearly don't want people discussing this
unironically saw someone up here say just use analog stick for games with dpad movement
Yuck
Cringe
It's not pocketable (you're right) but it is much more bag fitting which is how I view it.
what have i missed?
Retroidcord 5 minute chat timer
Nothing. The war between d-pad bottomers and toppers is still ongoing.
The war between tops and bottoms you say
How long until 30 minute slow mode
i bet these guys play hollow knight at 60fps locked and with analog stick
oh yea silksong works on gamehub right? doesn't that also reach 100+ fps 720p on 8gen2?
60fps I can understand, but an analog stick??
path of pain made me transfer my switch save to pc and just finish the game there
Gah I hate to admit but I played Hollow Knight with analog stick lol but 120hz on my pc handheld
Some people actually want stick on top
Why ?
it's fine to play dpad games on stick i swear
much better dpad + fps
Play how you like. But at 1080P 120Hz minimum. 🙃
i was memeing, it's gross
Hell, even the Legion Go S Z2G does 120Hz full resolution for those games on balanced mode. Maybe even on silent.
tbf most pc handheld dpads are trash
microswitch/dome supremacy
even as a vita dpad disliker i really appreciate the dpad top rp5, most of my streaming is done to it
Might be getting the G2 this time
Never ran into someone who disliked the Vita's d-pad, interesting.
I don’t like it
don't do it they'll just release G3
I was under the impression it was overwhelmingly popular. But then, I didn't really interact with Vita people all that much.
vita wasn't popular
i don't hate it, i don't love it, it's okay, but everyone seems to gush over it
I know that.
x86 stuff
i prefer a retro style rubber membrane one anyday
I think I’m just gonna stick a grip on a G2 and call it a day
A significant amount of critique I've seen for Silksong controls have come from people using the analog stick and frustrated by the direction Hornet travels with a down attack
I've found it really consistent on dpad because I can always just tap a direction while holding down to angle properly.
My first dpad awakening moment was with shovel knight so yeah I can see that
that was my guess too, i have zero issues with the pogoing
it's more or less like playing celeste
I couldn't see myself ever doing Celeste with an analog stick
Rocknix on rp6 😍
If a game has 8 directional input, particularly if it's precise 8 directional input, I'm always picking a dpad over analog stick.
Yeah the legion go dpad might be the worst dpad I've ever used
doing a poll to make the stick top on RP6, but no poll for stick placement when they revealed the flip 2. i see how it is
What does that have to do with it ?
If you want to stir the pot, you can make an argument the right stick should be on the top as well since you need it so much for camera controls in modern games.
default layout
I can at least use a dpad bottom ok enough.
I played Deltarune on Steam perfectly fine with a dpad bottom controller, but losing dpad top on Retroid will really suck :/
also yeah lol i need d-pad top for x86 because that's where i bought all my cheap platformers but no one does it. except anbernic that one time
and technically the win mini, but they're both top there
people still not realizing the steam deck, the best x86 is dpad top:
Steam deck dpad sucks ass
The steam deck layout seems very odd. I don't think I'd like it but I've never held one.
It’s super uncomfortable too
I like it
I don’t
it's comfortable for retro gaming for me
a deck mini that ditched the trackpads to move the other inputs inward would do it a lot of favors
It’s not for me
Wii U Pro Controller and Gamepad my beloved
or just shrank them
I really considered the Flip 2 bc it had a similar layout to Wii U
I could never get used to the wii u controller, especially for Smash
best x86? 
maybe for fanbois
No vrr so it can't be best
the Wii U controller for Smash was a nightmaaaare
The Steam Deck is also stick top.
I actually had no issue playing Smash on the Wii U gamepad
I know a lot of people who loved it. It just wasn't for me.
I found it perfectly fine for Smash personally
Saying a device with an 800p screen is the best x86 is funny
it's the best all around package
If you only play Steam games yeah
They gonna come up with a stick on top full redesign and it will still sell like shit
I think that thing was just such a honker in general that it drove me nuts. I didn’t get to spend a lot of time with it though. But I also say this as an Xbox Duke controller defender lmao
yeah, i only have steam games purchased and the rest are on my retro handhelds
Besides the analog stick, I don't like the shoulder button layout of the game pad. Because the Z buttons are so inset, it makes it pretty much impossible access both sets of shoulder buttons if you're the sort of person who uses your pointers for it, enforcing a pointer/middle finger grip.
Nothing wrong with liking unorthodox controllers haha
The moment you step outside of steam games the deck gets incredibly irritating
As weird as the N64 controller was, I liked using it and still like it as long as it doesn’t make me rotate the stick too much (hi Mario Party) :p
I’m also a GC controller defender. I played through TotK on a GC controller lol
Due to the OS or?
The n64 controller is a strange one for me. I think my biggest issues with it is how often I have to hold both hands close and how 1/3 of the control is effectively useless in most games, limiting the amount of buttons you use
Yeah
For Steam games and emulation, the Deck is a solid experience. It only gets annoying with non-steam Windows stuff, really. But since Steam has nearly everything worthwhile anyway, does it matter?
Yes.
Yeah Linux can be like that, once you get the hang of it then it isn't too bad
The important part is that they tried and we had fun while rubbing off our thumb prints and putting holes in our palms
Basically add every game onto steam and run it with proton 
Steam is really the only platform with native Linux integration, most other platforms are straight up not available or are missing features
It's weird but it works.
I almost never hear anything bad about the Steam Deck layout and usually see it praised as being very comfortable
But ofc, no one has the same exact preferences, so never know until you try something
Kind of, you can get GOG, Epic, and Amazon games via the heroic games launcher
So there’s no final verdict yet?
What about cloud saves tho
EA launcher is a pain to set up
Last time I used heroic GoG didn’t have cloud saves
Functional
Epic was completely functional I don't recall how well GOG's was
I'll have to check
GoG's cloud saves sometimes don't work right on Windows either, so ...
Yeah lol
GOG keeping the old gaming experience alive 😌
Steam nuked my 40 hour expedition 33 save file
That's rough
Anyway I play most of my pc games on GoG and gamepass so Linux is kind of a non starter for me unfortunately
I do use it on my laptops tho
I can't get myself to buy game pass, it's obviously a great deal if you play the games but I'm a real hater of subscription services
That’s understandable
They doubled the price over here so im out lol
Oof
Every time I am tempted by Gamepass, Microsoft decides to, well ... be Microsoft.
buy gamepass month to month on cdkeys 😜
I have everything I want on steam anyways so the deck is perfect for me
I just end up getting what I want on Steam or Gog for less money than getting gamepass would have been.
I use Xcloud a bunch so honestly the games are secondary
Cloud streaming is pretty sweet ngl
I've heard a lot of praise for the Odin 2 Portal in comfort, particularly with the grip and it's a bit ehh for me
I’ve been a cloud gaming nut since stadia rest in peace 
Especially when I was playing hollow knight on it
As long as you got good WiFi it makes high settings on handhelds beautiful
Sd8gen2 12gb, how much of switch library can it play well
…You know, when I added this last edit yesterday, I was just joking Retroid.
Shame it’s probably just the stick/dpad layout that’ll be optional
Ok nevermind, this is just them not leaving it up for pre-order while doing the redesign.
I’ll give them props for not pulling the same bullshit they did with the Mini V1 and actually getting rid of the now outdated listing, but still not getting off the shit list for it. Maybe if they manage to get more than 1 release in a row with zero fuck-ups.
Unlikely but we shall seee
did take them a while to take off the preorder though at least they did it
They made the top spot on my shit list with this, so done with this company
i think the rp mini was a way bigger misstep
cause they don't actually take your money until they ship, right?
Same, and given we actively wanted them to delist the thing when it was proven to be a lie only for them to not do so, I’ll at least say that them delisting this thing now is definitely better than leaving it up.
Unfortunately no, they do take the payment the moment you make the pre-order.
oh
So you do usually need to ask them to cancel the order to get a refund, and given the fiasco that happened with the Retroid DS, they may be waiting for users to cancel manually “instead of assuming they all want to cancel”.
No they take the money and now we wait for refunds
In other words, if you don’t like what’s happening, you definitely shouldn’t be waiting for them to cancel it.
well yeah, assuming people want refunds was dumber
Taking money before the product even exists is the dumbest of all
what a stupid ass launch, show what it could be and now it's gonna be ruined by committee
it's fine if they let people choose stick position they want
It seems like Stick Top won both votes
Both votes?
rip the original vision
There was only one stick top vote
Twitter/Discord
im sure it didnt sell bc of the stick position, thats the only reason for sure 
Maybe people have no moneys left after buying a pocket fit, Odin 3 or Thor.
Or they are simply happy with their rp5.
Imagine Arthur pulled the Konkr in the first few hours because the Odin 3 preorders were doing better at the time? So many people hadn't even heard of the RP6 until after the fact and it hadn't even been 24hours
Wait did they come out and say the 6 wasn’t selling well?
they stopped everything, started making polls and removed the listing so...
I thought that was just cuz people were voicing they didn’t like the design
Now they just have to start from scratch designing the thing, June 26
if it was selling well they wouldnt have done anything
Honestly I think the best way forward now is - Reduce the RP5 price to $150, focus on the RP5 G2, Scrap the RP6 entirely and come back in a couple months with the RP7 or whatever after properly researching it
release the RPG (G for Good)
Who knows, they might be that fickle. Either way it looks bad on them
Before scrapping the 7 and being like "rp8 on the way"
this time with 3 sticks
retroid pocket "this is literally an odin 3, please come back" edition
rp5 was just too good
most people dont need more power
Absolutely this. And then people go.. well hold on, if I save a little more over that 2 1/2- 3month time period I could just buy an Odin 3 comfortably instead
maybe a week of marketing between reveal and pre order would have solved it, idk
i mean it is a better deal than the odin 3 and even the odin 2, but i hate losing the variety
It's all been a bit half baked
And I can only blame myself for preordering so quickly
That's kind of always been retroids position in the market
the more i look at the og design the better it looks
True but if they lose their USP and it just looks like an Odin then it gives more of an incentive for people to just go for the O3
I would be surpised if they didn't also make a new dpad centric handheld this year, 40% isn't insignificant
if they started selling the 2S again for like 80 dollars it would be so nice
Or technically next year I guess
thicc. Dpad top or Bottom, we lost the thickness now with the redesign, the stick to button spacing and now the speakers can be accidentally covered again with your hands whilst playing
yeah, a little bit more chonk would help with confort, the rp5 looks so squared out and skinny in comparison
shut up buy our grip
UGH
i just wish all these designs had no ergo bumps because retroid (and ayn) sucks at them tbh, flat is much more comfy and people buy the grips anyway
I disagree, bumps on og odin 2 are great
i personally prefer my devices having good ergo from the beginning without requiring an additional grip at cost, but having the versatility is really good too
At least the AYN grips are less bulbous and have ribbed texture. Imagine having ribbed bumps on your console and then making a grip with no friction
the rp5 really doesn't have good ergo, and the tsp which was basically a flat rp5 was a lot more comfy in my hands
IMO you either go full hog with handlebars or go flat
yeah that
Everything just feels awful after I grab my GCloud
they don't even need to be huge, the cubexx is mad comfy and the grips aren't that huge
the g cloud is black magic comfort ❤️ the 556 is insanely comfy too
G cloud mentioned
my biggest critique of ayn and the rp5 has been the mid ergo tbh
well, the ghost touch on my odin 2 is a way bigger deal but whatever
Did you get the survey via the device where they were asking what you would like from a successor?

Nah, Logitech are only pushing out to owners, not twitter bots
fair tbqhwymf
Honestly genius cuz who better to ask than the super fans still using it all these years later
it would be a hard product to market now though, tablet+x5s is so affordable
Affordable yes maybe, but not as seamless and comfortable as the g cloud
Plus we're STILL getting software/firmware updates. Honestly I think my answer was like "More offset sticks because the right one is too close to the buttons, better D-Pad, OLED or better IPS panel with higher refresh rate and a more up to date chip" I think even the G2 Gen 2 would be a good shout for it
does the g cloud support wifi 6?
lol no. AC at most, but it's fine
A lot of people shit on V10 completely ignoring the fact that yeah, it’s still getting updates
The thing has infinite voodoo battery life
My Xbox ally has mostly replaced my g cloud but the cloud is still the thin and light ergonomic king
Just wish it was a bit cheaper 😄
This is the most boring Retroid controversy
Same, but standard Ally z1e for me.. but every so often
Bring back the hidden screen pixels and mortgage claims
Can’t put a price on enjoyment imo
i agree, and it makes me more mad at the community than the company doing scummy things
yeah it's one of those things I regretted a little when I first purchased but I've certainly got my moneys worth over the last 2-3 years
Also I like the bezels, without them the device would be more squished and less comfortable. Make bezels great again!
we gotta get these gamers a hobby
I like watching retroid fanboys babyrage of this stuff
Retroid Pocket 6 has me excited for the Retroid Pocket Flip 3
Mainly because they kept the same screen size which helps pocketability. I also wanted 120hz and happy they have gone with 120hz
Also the SDG2 chipset being perfect for my needs while being affordable.
I hope with Flip 3 they focus more on comfort and pocketability. Probably would be great if they can make it thinner like a DSi. And make the shoulder buttons and triggers curve more for better comfort.
It would also be great if they can add 2 addutinal buttons for 6 button arcade games as there is so much space. Keep the diamond layout for the 4 buttons but add additional 2 buttons next to left and down buttons. These extra buttons can also be useful for hotkeys too and would help differentiate from Flip 2 for people who dont care for more powerful chipset or 120hz
man that screen is so good, always forget lol
Honestly would love just a G2-inspired version of the Flip
stick a new chip in that thang
Me too! It's only occasionally when I remember I have it and pick it up I'm like... oh damn that's nice. I'm really looking forward to if/when they do release a successor.. I just hope they do their own thing and kept what made it great in the first place
I am wondering what exactly is the market the rp6 was aimed at
Just me and @honest dust apparently
The only reason I haven't pre ordered one is that I own an Odin 2 Portal and a Retroid Pocket 5.
But just as a general trend it seems like AYN, Anbernic, and Konkr have all pretty much gobbled up the spot where the rp6 would have lied
I only have a BIG and smol device, the Vita looking style and the tastleful thickness had me right away
Will this be enough for people to accept a device that sold so badly it had to be cancelled did indeed sell badly?
Let's find out.
It's a conspiracy man
I’ve also read many people asking for a flat back, such as the O2 Mini. Whatever you put on top, even with a compact size, it helps to make the second control usable by adjusting handling. If you you like comfort and bulk (they often come together anyway), just put a grip on your otherwise flat and pocketable device.
shhhh don't give them anymore reason to sell grips day 1 with their uncomfortable devices
Retroid Chris is just double agent AYN Nicole.
Nah it's Arthur all along
Flat back vs built in grips is always an interesting thing. There's definitely more modularity in a separate grip but I get some people don't feel like buying/making a grip and putting it on their devices
the thing is retroid and ayn built in grips are terrible and might even be detrimental
I loved the flat back of the rp4p for everything but racing and fps games. The grip helped with those massively. I thought the rp5 would be cool with the built in ergo, so I wouldn't need the grip. But I found it too small and still needed a grip anyway. The Odin 2 Portal was too slippery without the grip, so I got that one too.
basically that, and og odin 2 in my opinion has terrible ergo for its size
Yep. Can’t get it all. But people don’t seem to like the taller new desing. Once you choose compactness, either you make the back flat, or you severely compromise the bottom control (pad or stick). The actual choice is beween second control and integrated bumps, if you put things into perspective.
I never felt like I needed a grip for my Anbernic rg351p even when I used both sticks. No idea how that works. Maybe the lack of analog trigger?
Sooooooo
I have a relatively light grip so usually when I need a grip, it's because the device has started slipping from my hand while I game.
That’s because an integrated grip forbids you to reposition your hands to use either top or bottom control. Your hands move more freely and you get versatility.
Or they were changing it regardless
i think he's saying the preorders were so low that they had to do something
this one
it's obvious they're doing that no matter what 😄
I think it means that they were probably already going to change it but did a poll to confirm
@toxic locust Enjoy your G2 Gen 2
So that means the dpad top crowd is boned
it ia a shame the preorders were so rough as the devices were good
2 day lead up, no reviewers, not really marketing something "new".
Same ole retroid
honestly it kinda marks the bursting of the bubble of the retro handhelds market, an 8 gen 2 oled 120hz device for 230 bucks and it gets a low amount of preorders
Unless they keep the bulk/height, or make the back flat. Otherwise yes, the Dpad would become difficult to use.
They literally launched the polls 12 hours after Preorders opened, which opened up a day after the reveal.. and they were shocked it hadn't done well in that period of time? They are huffing over there
The rp5 had a rough start too. They were offering only 6gb of ram and Android 10 on launch for the first few days after pre orders opened.
Wait are they putting stick on top? 💀💀💀💀💀
I sure as shit hope not
Not clear yet. David and Cris are advocating for both options to be available
I guess they already weren't feeling too confident seeing the competition and that their last release was kind of a disaster
Pls no Retroid 😱😱😱😱😱😱
gonna be interesting if they go for both options and increase the production and shipping logistics
perhaps the thor is the last of the tulip mania that is the retro handhelds market 
RP Classic was a glorious release
I meant the rp ds
It really feels like having both options would make most sense
I think this could be it, the few like myself who don't have that kind of device are the minority. So many people here have already expressed how they're happy with their devices, and the RP5 (love it or hate it) has a really big community around it too who don't see the need to upgrade
Rg ds has infected my mind
Per David, if they did do both versions they'd probably only offer it in a few colors/spec combinations
what was that one device where you could switch out the controls?
ayaneo... 3?
I don't like the design of the RP6. Have they announced the RP7 yet?
https://www.goretroid.com/ I had no idea they turned off the preorders for rp6
We'll wake you up from Cryo when it's time
The general design of the rp6 though I'm largely indifferent about. I don't think I understand why the buttons/speakers below the screen are disliked
man i'm gonna be so sad with the redesign
round equals comfy
They left them up for at least 6-7 hours after opening today. Plus it's still on their homepage.. and you can still buy the accessories https://www.goretroid.com/en-gb/collections/accessories
don't forget to order the grip for a device that will not exist
If we could fit the Portal screen on this and add wifi 7 it’d be perfect.
What the poll didn't consider is putting an 8 gen 2 in a RP5 body will be one HOT device. Can't cheat thermodynamics. Even the Odin 2 mini suffered from this constraint and the RP5 is same size of not smaller
COLLECTORS ITEM
i mean, the thor gets hot too, so yeah
Worth
A tpu shell will mitigate any heat pretty well
mitigate or concentrate?
Mitigate how it feels in the hand
Fuse to the plastic, nice melty goop
But still cook the battery.
Good call
from my experience grips make the heat stay in the device instead of letting it breathe
I hope retroids cooling isn't that awful for that to happen
The Odin 2 Portal gets pretty hot near the left thumbstick
That would suggest the Odin 2 mini cooling was awful. You can't get around it. The size of the Odin 2 portal helps the heat, but the 8 gen 2 gets toasty when in performance mode
The problem with the poll they did is that it was a twitter poll open to everyone and not just the people who actually own a Retroid or who was actually interested in preordering one. Logically, the most popular analog top option would win but that doesn’t mean it will result in more sales since now you can just buy a more powerful and ergonomical device in the pocket fit for $30 more :/ i personally am not in the market to save $30 to get a generation weaker device with a smaller screen with minimal size savings anyways. Even if you disagree, you can’t deny the RP6 is now directly in competition with with the Konkr and Odin models with no differentiating aspect to it.
Big Capcom responds to Megaman Legends 3 cancelation vibes here. Regardless of my feelings on the matter, it's incredible how awful Chris is as a community manager. Just do the stupid misguided thing and ride it out, don't make excuses, you're making it worse, stupid.
Well…hopefully dpad on top still 😉
Right, but that goes for most chips, I'm not going to be bothered by a little warmth
There seems to be a lot of people who believe that at this power level, a stick at the top is mandatory because apparently all games now use them.
i was never gonna buy it lol
Like it can't be as bad as my pocket s lol
make the retroid classic ds already
I'm not buying the redesign. Konkr pocket fit will be here soon. RP6 is irrelevant now. Yawn.
I also don’t mind the buttons under the screen either lol. It looks cool
Rp classic chip in a ds form factor could be cool af
So, who wants to guess how much of those low sales were from them making pre-orders literally 1-2 days after the very first announcement of the device even existing, and then going for a redesign in only 10 hours after they were opened?
Yeah...
Also the RP5 has the same price as the RP5+. I'm wondering why they didn't cut the price of the RP5
I really like the silver colorway
yeah, with the lg wing screens too
my fav too
like a lot of people already said, i don't think there is a layout issue
there is so much competition in the high end spectrum right now, between konkr, odin 3, thor... and let's not forget that lot of people bought the retroid pocket 5 /odin 2 / ... and i'm not sure all of them want to upgrade to the new shiny model. There 's definitely some congestion
Changing the stick layout will not move the needle a lot
The timing, 2 Skus pricing ...it's a tough situation
I like the idea of people experimenting with newer colors instead of the same old black, white, DMG, and GameCube suite.
Like, it’s actually a bit funny considering this was arguably just them deciding to not do the usual drip-feed…by going the exact opposite direction and effectively shadow dropping the thing.
went wonderfully for them
The poll results remind me of the apple commercial with everyone carrying around a vanilla ice cream cone.
SAME IS BORING
Imagine someone dropping one of these high end devices in pastel colors or something for once
And now there’s a likely chance that at least a good percentage of people literally only found out about the RP6 even existing from the polls for the redesigns.
I do wonder how they justify only announcing the poll on their Twitter and discord
Well if they're going to ruin the RP6 can they at least give the G2 that sexy Vita esque shell?
The discord poll wasn't even announced actually. The discord was alerted to the Twitter poll. Then an hour of backlash later they added a poll to discord too.
You can't expect people to buy a new one every year indefinitely. I'm glad we're finally hitting saturation point
The same way they justified announcing them first via Twitter and Discord, and then put the pre-orders literally around 1-2 days after said announcements.
Cool, so when will that be happening with Anbernic or even Ayn?
Anbernic is different
We wanna motivate everyone to be smart or just 1?
They don’t try to make “one device for everyone”
Sure could have fooled me with how many people in this very discord own multiple different h700 handhelds.
How many people here own multiple retroids
Not to mention the fact that we were literally calling the RG Cube a “supplementary” handheld to the RG556.
There's been people arguing for years they should stop making various versions of devices and only release one.
Exactly.
they make twelve devices for everyone
Exactly
I love how quickly we moved on from the revelation this thing wasn't selling (which just a couple of hours ago was totally not true and just speculation) to now being mad at where they decided to post the polls. Some people are just too lost.
Or better yet, how many different variants of the RG35XX vertical have they made by this point?
During the monthly H700 drop, every new device had a bunch of people saying they should move on from h700 because there's already enough
we still bought em
It’s either 3 counting only the H700’s, or 4 when counting the old variant.
Things happen fast in this scene 😄
You fail to understand the definition of speculation.
I think you missed my point
But I’ll drop it cuz we don’t need an RNS crashout two days in a row
Additionally there's been more information from Chris since last night, so people update their thoughts as new evidence comes in.
The night is young
I love that they do that, but I'm still waiting for my RG Arc Pro...
pulles done
Rg arc with an h700 would be cool just for the software support ngl
You and me both brother 😔
After trying the RP Classic 6-button I would not say no to a RP Classic 6-button horizontal.
i would like one of those
Let Retroid make the Arc we crave.
I would love that, but I really want them to attempt a disc dpad too this time
I conceptually like the rg arc but it just feels buggy with its current firmware offerings
i think the rg arc is gonna get knulli or maybe has it already
I LOVE the Vita dpad don't get me wrong, but I need the disc
For Sega, yes.
"I will not accept this obvious truth unless we get an official message, saying a cancelled product didn't sell well is just speculation"
community manager confirms this didn't sell
"No, not like that."
Retroid Chris also confirms this didn't sell
"Well anyway, they should've posted the polls somewhere else on the internet"
Sure makes sense.
No shit.
But hey, we shouldn’t be arguing against someone else’s confirmation bias. Let’s get back to exploring all the ways Retroid pulled one of the dumbest moves imaginable.
Look, at this point no one should be surprised that this went over in the most ass way possible.
Anyways to go back to the point I was trying to make about people arguing against choices, there was absolutely push back at every h700 announcement saying Anbernic should make something new
Seeing as it’s retroid, yeah very true
I’ll definitely be surprised considering how astronomically dumb it is even from a business perspective.
Every time 😄 was fun times
Like, it’s not even greed, they literally just pulled a repeat of the Sega Saturn!
Retroid releases are always entertaining
Retro business practices.
Tbh even that change in the rp5 from android 10 to android 13 after pre orders wasn't great
it’s a little conspiratorial to think a bunch of randos popped in to the Retroid twitter to vote
While I'm not sure there's many out there I guess there's got to be some people who wanted it explicitly because it didn't have 13
Flip 1 hinge.... the RP3, the RPTaki.... flip 2..... mini....
RPTaki 
“Hey, let’s open pre-orders for a device literally 1-2 days after we announced its literal existence, that’ll definitely be great for day-1 sales.”
There are a few people who lose their shit over scoped storage ...
That is a pita though ngl
Yeah I remember hearing some arguments about that
... but on balance using A13 was probably better. At least if you were gonna use turnip drivers.
lol what? Obviously people all across the retro handheld space knew about the poll and would vote. You disagree with that?
Maybe the apps I used are updated properly enough but I haven't had any issue selecting folders for my emulators.
I mean even then the discord poll shows similar results
I don’t disagree but I also don’t agree lol. That’s literally the market.
My problem with the Twitter poll in particular is just like a lot of people not having or wanting a Twitter account because of current management and the lack of visibility from people that causes since you have to have an account to vote.
Especially with the announcement being made on discord where they can actually just post a poll there
Obviously they made a discord poll an hour later but they didn't announce it.
dead internet theory says they’re all bot votes anyway 🤪
I’d say a solid 50% of people in this server don’t care about retroid at all
Bots clearly want stick top.
Just like on Grindr 🙄
A binary poll like that also doesn't really capture the number of people who would get the device either way even if they have a preference for one or the other.
sorry for liking bottoms
Obviously a minority of the population but reviewers and collectors for example will get it either way.
i voted for dpad top for variety. Though i wasn't planning on buying regardless
Arc has Rocknix already, it's still got the best D-Pad. Keep the H700 away from it, I don't want hissing everytime I change a game
i have rocknix on mine, yes, but i prefer how knulli works
A second rg arc won't delete the first one.
What the RP6 really needed was a rear touch screen. Then you would have had the true Vita experience.
But what if it does 
Then I need it for its magic lol
sicko
what even is the issue with the h700, the 3566 is the jankiest chip in the hobby lol
I find with my rg arc on Rocknix it can be a bit buggy, especially with charging. I found it frustrating
It's fine, it's well supported. I just have an irrational hatred of that popping static noise it makes when closing games (28XX and CubeXX.. knulli and minui)
haven't had that or haven't noticed it
as far as irrational hatred in this scene goes it's not a bad one 😄
I don’t recall if it was Rocknix or Retroarena (I tried both) but I couldn’t get the WiFi to work on the OS. People said it is common and just reflash the OS. I did it 3 times and then gave up as the only OS I could get working well was stock
my rg40xxh does that lol
boiiink, tzz
rocknix seems to work fine on mine at least, with ota updates and everything, i'm just used to knulli
I have more h700s than one person should, they all have that.
hm let me check
I'm so sorry Kyoka
muOS did something to reduce the noise on boot recently.
i love how i had an h700 literally 20cm from my hand
Every human on earth does
Is that close or far? 🇺🇸 jk
Yeah I just checked my drawer of shame and it's in there
my 34xx doesn't make a noise when closing a game idk
along with an RP Flip 1 which still hasn't snapped
hmmm that was a later one, maybe they fixed it by then
My 34xx does.
Could be Rocknix did something about it too, haven't tried it in a second.
yeah nothing, i think your handhelds are broken guys
But it is consistent among stock, muOS and a version or two back of Knulli.
mine do a little speaker pop when i turn them on but that's it
I love playing with my toys
This
i disagree, they suck
I do want to try a grip though
im gonna buy an ayaneo device with stick on top out of spite
This is about the stick placement btw the old design is still getting axed
sounds like both configurations confirmed?
Seems like it
I can't imagine that will do the logistics of making and shipping them any favours
David did say if it happened, it'd probably only be for certain combinations
Given order popularity, it being restricted to 12gb black and white wouldn't be unrealistic
That will be a popular decision if it happens
true though this would be the first time for multiple physical configurations for them
