Retroid Pocket 6

[keen marlin]

Either gen 2 or gen 3 can't remember

[untold temple]

7+gen3

[thick goblet]

for early bird better buy rp6 over rpg2 just additional 10 dollar for 8 gen 2.

[untold temple]

btw wonder how this chipset capable to run the same stuff on ps2 with the same resolution to 8 gen 2 ... if gpu is literally weaker by 25%

[thick goblet]

https://youtu.be/SivNrMmOxCU?si=UqEn5WQPKTJFxVxA

another youtuber on rpg2 and rp6

[untold temple]

seems like it was emulation state bound, not hardware

[hoary lintel]

Okay, that makes more sense, so insta skip then...

[untold temple]

it runs ps2 the same resolution as 8gen2/G3x Gen2

[hoary lintel]

How about Gamehub and switch emulation? Been tested?

[untold temple]

ofc

until u reach gpu limit, it will be fine

[hoary lintel]

I better go find some videos and see how it's doing with Gamehub Comparsd to an 865

[untold temple]

massive difference

x2 power

[thick goblet]

G2gen2 is a new chipset for retro handheld. so not fully tested

[hoary lintel]

I'm only hesitant because I have been using my brothers razer edge with a g1 gen 1 and im getting worse performance all around

But I'l chalk that up to razer not updating the device and such

[thick goblet]

g2gen2 definitely perform better but how is the drivers compatibility??

[untold temple]

G3 Gen1 u mean?

[hoary lintel]

Yeah my bad

[untold temple]

that a strong soc, u cant get worst

problem with settings ig

[hoary lintel]

But it runs Mario kart 8 worse than my RP5 🙁 the drivers are old

[untold temple]

why u use old drivers?)

there latest turnip

exist

[hoary lintel]

And for that game the default driver is recommended, it's a much lower number than the one on my rp5

It won't launch

Crashes on launch and hard reboots

[untold temple]

it does, fully supported

[hoary lintel]

You tried on the razer edge?

[untold temple]

i see many tests on edge

myself no

[hoary lintel]

Hold up, booting up the razer edge now

Nope, crashed as the game was loading

[echo nymph]

that one is pretty old now 😄 its a strong chip but i dont know what drivers are like for switch and gamehub. I have one but havent used it for that

[untold temple]

download turnip and try

[hoary lintel]

Crashes on turnip, it's recommended to use the system gpu driver, which then makes it run flawlessly on my RP5. By the system gpu driver on rp5 is like 0.716.1 or something, and the razer is 0.530.0

On Gamehub, regardless of driver, I can't get risk of rain 2 to run after initial load screen. Works pretty good on my rp5 though with a decent fps at the stsrt of the game

This is why I'm hesitant on these g2 g3 chips I guess

[untold temple]

https://newreleases.io/project/github/K11MCH1/AdrenoToolsDrivers/release/v25.2.0_r10

here for A732, unofficial but it works
also there exist hacks for even latest version (masked on A735)
https://github.com/K11MCH1/AdrenoToolsDrivers/releases/tag/v25.2.0_r10

[uneven fractal]

Are both of the new retroids no glass fronts?

[lethal quiver]

I believe both are glass fronts

The g2 looks like the same shell as the rp5

[uneven fractal]

Oh yeah !

[gleaming niche]

Hey all, here's a comparison chart @frozen garden made with our new database site https://handhelds.wtf (if you're interested in comparing more -- site is in beta, please let us know if run into issues)

[main slate]

When you use MSRP tbe Pocket 6 looks nutty for the price

[jovial nimbus]

Maybe add screen refresh rate as it's different for most

[untold temple]

omg what i just see o_O
latest turnip driver make stable 30 fps in docked in Zelda TOTK ... (8gen2) with unlocked framerate 35avg, in not heavy area 40 (shadows cube artifacts still exist, i would say better to turn them off with mod) p.s Kakariko location drop to the same as original switch 25fps, impressive ...

[jovial nimbus]

Perfect

[dreamy wigeon]

Are they dooming Pocket G2 or what

What's the point lol

[jovial nimbus]

Dooming ? I think the RP5 is more interesting than the new RP6 as at least it uses a new chip , just wish they reworked the ergos

[dreamy wigeon]

It's $10 cheaper for 60hz instead 120, and weaker processor. That's so nonsensical.

RPG2 feels like RP5 pro that arrived half a year too late and now has no place, sad 😔

[honest dust]

Mistakes over mistakes, O2M 128gb is USF3.1 not 4.0

[dreamy wigeon]

RPG 2 is a funny abbreviation tho

[honest dust]

Should just call it RP5+ to stick with their naming scheme

[gleaming niche]

Thanks! Did you see another?

[main slate]

I'd rather they release the RPG2 and the RP6 at the same time than them releasing the RPG2 and then the RP6 in half a year. Much better this way at least

[limber surge]

they messed it up themselves, rp4 was the pro instead of plus

[dreamy wigeon]

For us yes. But for them it's just... bad?

They'll sell like 20 of them at most (exaggerating obviously)

[main slate]

My best guess is an obligatory Qualcomm contracts to use the chip

But wanting to make something more powerful because they don't think the RPG2 competes well

[honest dust]

Aside from the USF class being kinda difficult with this as most higher end SKUs switch to 4.0 (which the O2M also does) and the chart neither clarifying the RAM options I haven't really looked to much

[torn swift]

*too

sorry, you made a grammar mistake

[gleaming niche]

Lemme know if you run into anything else! We're taking feedback for issues.

[stone eagle]

Feedback:

More Vladnerd on Podcast

[frozen garden]

images pulled directly from the odin 2 mini site, which is what i used as the source

[gleaming niche]

Vlad is the bees knees

[frozen garden]

when selecting devices to compare, you're also able to choose the configuration:

[gleaming niche]

It's all self-service. If there is a wrong spec though, maybe we can have a button to report to admin.

[honest dust]

You want to talk German with me?

[honest dust]

Still at work, will take a look later

[torn swift]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[tiny zealot]

Google must be drunk or the mini does in fact use 4.0

[hoary lintel]

That's the same Google that told me via it's ai analysis that a G2 Gen 2 doesn't exist and I may be confusing it for Samsung edition gen 2 chip?? 😂

[onyx orchid]

what chip is the odin 3 gonna have?

[lethal quiver]

SD elite iirc

[onyx orchid]

seems like emulation with the SD elite is still patchy

[untold temple]

until turnip out

but if u dont need direct12, with 11 and vulcan already no problem

[cold canopy]

I'm seeing a lot of ambivalence around this device on social media. Am I missing something? Seems like a good device?

[pastel olive]

when you put it like this, the price/performance ratio on the RP6 is wild. i think a lot of people can live with the ugliness for that price.

[honest dust]

the weirdest thing is that even the Odin 2 Mini website shows now USF4.0 for both the 128 and 256gb SKU... and the Portal wiped all mentions of the USF standard from the page... but I remember contemplating the O2Mini Pro due to USF3.1 being used on the 128gb model and the O2 Portal campaign also said that the Base model used USF3.1... I highly doubt being under the Mandela Effect here, like what the hell is going on, did they update the storage used - meanwhile the RP6 uses USF3.1 once again... which adds to my gripes on this device, snails storage and ergo bumps my Odin 2 Mini upgrade shouldn't have

[cold canopy]

I really don't understand the comments saying this thing is ugly. I thought the RP5 was boring as hell and I'm actually really excited for the silver colorway. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

[tiny zealot]

I wonder if there’s a way for me to tell which USF I have on my O2 mini

[honest dust]

I mean you can probably find an app that tests read/write speed, thing we have to look up how fast USF3.1 and USF4.0 are supposed to be

okay USF3.1 has up to 2.100MB/s read and 1.200MB/s write, while USF4.0 has 4.200MB/s read and 2.800MB/s write speed

CPDT or PCMark for Android according to google... guess I will have to dig out my Odin 2 Mini to prove my point

[gleaming niche]

Update: If you run into errors, we now have a reporting option to quickly get things sorted.

[frank briar]

I bet everyone who bought an rp5 are kinda pissed rn no? 😅

[quick abyss]

they shouldn't be. retroid does yearly product refreshes and qualcomm even spoiled the soc at least 6 months before launch. also there was an obvious clearance sale before the announcement. all the signs were there, you just had to look for them.

[cloud lagoon]

uh why

did people who bought the iPhone 15 get pissed when the iPhone 16 was launched?

[frank briar]

Kind of different with phones. Aren't high end handhelds supposed to last a couple years before the new one? How long between flagship models of other companies? I mean I'd be kind of pissed because the performance is a huge difference and it's the same price as the old one at launch

Would've like at least one more year with the rp5

[frozen garden]

consumer electronics operate on a yearly cadence, handhelds are no different and often times worse

[cloud lagoon]

[frank briar]

But then again I guess they're playing catch up with the other companies

When was the last time steamdeck got a new model?

[cloud lagoon]

if you've been here for a while you know that new retro handhelds with more powerful chips are always going to come out

[frozen garden]

steam deck is exception, not the rule

[untold temple]

27

[frozen garden]

it's also not a steadfast rule either. it's not like lenovo released the legion go 2 around the one year mark of the original, or even the go s for that matter

[cloud lagoon]

anyway, no, I'm not pissed because in any case the RP6 doesn't invalidate what the RP5 can do

it's still a pretty good handheld of its own regardless

[untold temple]

if they just buy it, yeah ... 200%

much better devices for the same or a little more price

[mighty beacon]

Shouldn’t the Konkr Pocket Fit Elite be included as well? Right now it looks like the Odin 3 is the only Elite we’re getting.

[gleaming niche]

Is the config option not in the drop down, you mean?

[mighty beacon]

Oh, my bad — I was just talking about the picture, not the website itself (which is awesome, btw)

[gleaming niche]

Ah no worries, yeah you generate your own picture, this is just a possible example. Thanks! 🙏

[west ember]

Im growing on the RP6's design

Tbh it is just the OLED Odin 2 Mini that I wanted.... just not from the company I expected xD

[frozen garden]

oh the picture is just a screenshot

[supple thorn]

would the 12 gb's increased performance be proportionally worth the price increase from the 8gb?

[honest dust]

you only need it if you want to do Switch/Winlator

and for Switch it's already only necessary for harder to run stuff

[supple thorn]

oh oki :3

[untold temple]

depend what ur use case

[supple thorn]

this makes sense, i cant tell what would be the optimal way to use this device and if it would be worth stretching it to make it like a mini steamdeck

[untold temple]

it worth

[onyx orchid]

I feel i may as well go for the 12gigs as an update from the rp5

[honest dust]

IMO they should have never made the 8gb version, as the RPG2 basically will do the same as that SKU 😅

[onyx orchid]

Question: would I still need to rely on higher performance modes for this like I did the RP5?

for things like higher end emu and such

Just wondering what would be the point at where you would need to activate it with this

[honest dust]

for Switch stuff definitely, PS2 and under is smooth sailing tho

[onyx orchid]

Ah cool

What's the extent a device like this can use gamehub?

[candid ridge]

Imo the higher sku is moreso for the 256gb storage than the 12gb ram really.
But the ram is nice for the higher-end Switch games and Winlator

[honest dust]

I mean, the highest people pushed the 8gen2 would be games like Final Fantasy VII Remake, but that ain't running at full 30fps and needs more than 12gb RAM, so it's definitely the edge case of what this can do

[onyx orchid]

That's still really impressive. VIi remake is pretty graphically intensive

[honest dust]

indeed, still it's mostly older games and indies one should reasonably expect to play well on the 8gen2 tho

[onyx orchid]

I'm probably gonna preorder to lock in that early price but I'm still a bit on the fence. Like, i have a switch 2 and a steam deck for those games

Ahhhh i just don't know lol

[honest dust]

I mean, if you have already something that can do up to PS2 well...

[untold temple]

no

[onyx orchid]

I have an RP5 and a Steam Deck

[honest dust]

on the other hand you may justify it with some Switch games you haven't necessarily bought

[untold temple]

switch, high x86, ps3, xbox, yes, anything below no

wii u also

[onyx orchid]

Isn't Wii U emulation still rough on android

[untold temple]

um not really

[onyx orchid]

Hmm.

I think I might put down the preorder with pay-in-3 and just think on it.

[faint mango]

I know that RP6 is more powerful than the G2, but with the G2 being on Android 15, is the RP6 the better option for Android games in the long term even though it's only on Android 13?

[untold temple]

yes

[onyx orchid]

There doesn't seem to be the ideal steam deck replacement device yet in terms of size/scope and while i prefer bigger handhelds this seems to look ergonomically nicer

[honest dust]

could always go KONKR or ODIN3 tho

not that much bigger IMO

[onyx orchid]

The price

The Odin is only 6" right?

[honest dust]

yeah

[onyx orchid]

Not that much of a difference

[honest dust]

damn RP6 is a chonker

[onyx orchid]

What's the device behind it? The konkr?

[honest dust]

Odin 3

[onyx orchid]

Ah

[honest dust]

KONKRs ergo flare out makes it a bit taller

[proper flower]

6'' screen?

[vernal forum]

144hz IPS on the konkr, 120hz OLED on the odin

and on the rp6

we're eating good this year

[honest dust]

It's still kinda wild that the RP6 doesn't uses the 6" screen

[proper flower]

better wait for the 7 then

[vernal forum]

had to make space for those buttons I guess? 🤣

[proper flower]

lucky number

7 must be the perfect one

[honest dust]

I mean, no complaints, the RP5 was too small to be comfortable

[vernal forum]

the perfect one is the one we get and play with 😛
or else it will never really exist

[cloud lagoon]

for dpad centric games it's very comfortable to me

[honest dust]

the RP6 is basically the same size of the x28, so good

[proper flower]

right but I'm a rp7 believer.

[candid ridge]

There are people who still prefer dpad top even if they play more stick oriented games, especially those who grew up with the Playstation consoles.
Nice to have a Dpad top 8Gen2 option for people who prefer that kind of control scheme

[modest comet]

who else things this is a huge step back, and also looks like a in-car DVD player

[cloud lagoon]

dpad top for stick centric games is only good if the sticks are sufficiently inset, which unfortunately Retroid never does

[vernal forum]

I really dig the looks 🤣

[cloud lagoon]

even the Odin 2 mini had better inset than this

[proper flower]

I just wish it was the RG556 or 557 d-pad instead

huge one

[candid ridge]

That's the unfortunate thing with Retroid.
RP6 looks a bit more inset than RP5 at least, and is a bigger handheld, so that might help, but whether it'll make that big a difference remains to be seen

If I wasn't already planning to get the Odin 3 next year, I'd get this, but this seems great for what it is (cheapest 8gen2 handheld on the market)

[jovial nimbus]

I only say that about me personally, I already have a O2 with SD 8 gen 2.
I get it , I’m just more interested in new CPU’s instead of getting the same old same old just in a different package.

[onyx orchid]

Might skip the rp6 grip if it's as poorly fitting as the 5's though... Kind of embarassing how poorly it fits

The top part does not wanna stay on

[modest comet]

okay look, maybe the looks will grow on me but right now im not very jazzed

[onyx orchid]

I kind of dig the design. Very 2000's

[modest comet]

Yeah, i see the appeal.

[onyx orchid]

The two hotkey buttons will be great for n64

[modest comet]

What does the price on this look like?

[lethal quiver]

For the rp6 it's $209 for 8gb ram and 128gb storage and $259 for 12gb ram and 256gb storage

Once early bird ends it is $20 more

[onyx orchid]

Preordered. £78 a month isnt too rough

I got 16bit

[lethal knoll]

Rp6 looks like a inbred vita kinda took the sleekness away from it 😅

[honest dust]

I gotta sit this out until Russ convinces me that I need it despite having a Ayn Odin 2 Mini, Odin 2 Portal, Thor, Ayaneo Pocket DMG, ACE, S2 and the upcoming FIT, as well as the Odin 3

[quick abyss]

Not even Ryan Retro can convince you to get a RP6 in that scenario

[trail fjord]

I'm sitting this Gen of Retroid out

Unless my Odin 2 breaks

[quick abyss]

What about the inevitable 4:3 oled handheld though

[trail fjord]

Still

[onyx orchid]

I feel more comfortable in my preorder after being told that this is p.much a full upgrade to the 5

[honest dust]

someone has to convince me that I need the shiny new toy

[trail fjord]

Unless my Odin 2 breaks, I don't have a reason

[onyx orchid]

I don't have an odin

[bleak herald]

https://youtu.be/OXYunQ_KMvg?si=GywbSgsLohF7vrFL

[trail fjord]

I do want the RPG2

[bleak herald]

Just released

[trail fjord]

But alas, I don't need it

[quick abyss]

You don’t + the black model looks kinda mid

[honest dust]

true, but shiny new toy

[quick abyss]

If you’ll get a silver one, go for it

That one is beautiful

[candid ridge]

I like the orange one a lot personally.
Something about the tone of orange they picked with the black buttons just looks really good to me

[novel inlet]

It seems like both the RP6 and RPG2 aren't doing well in sales so far

Preorders already opened, but barely anyone is discussing or bragging about their orders

[cloud lagoon]

that's not normal lol, mine doesn't do that

[onyx orchid]

Maybe i should have returned it... Oh well

[honest dust]

the silver one is really looking great, on the other hand it's a waste of the OLED screen, as it won't blend into the shell like a black one does...

[onyx orchid]

Could it be the device itself bulging? I got paranoid seeing someone talk about their rp5's battery bulging but mine looks fine

[quick abyss]

An oled screen is not wasted because it doesn’t fade into a black shell.
That’s just black propaganda.
I feel like that’s more important for a 31:27 screen so you can tell it’s not 4:3.
even if blacks fade into the shell we can tell a screen is 16:9 because it has the silhouette of a tv remote..

[cloud lagoon]

yeah it looks fine, your grip is weird, throw it away and get another one make sure you get it from goretroid.com and not AliExpress

[candid ridge]

It's as Russ said in his video, most people that would want this already have a similar device they love using.

[onyx orchid]

I did!

[cloud lagoon]

welp, there goes the last chance Retroid had of getting sales from us

[honest dust]

if the black one also had crystal buttons/d-pad I would have a way easier time deciding on a color (given I will even get this) 😂

[cloud lagoon]

but it does

[balmy quartz]

Anyone on this forum probably has at least two devices with the same chip at the RP6 and no reason to downgrade to a G2.

[candid ridge]

Not only that, but there's also just too much competition these days for Retroid.
AYN, and even Ayaneo with their Konkr line have devices coming out that from what I have seen people have been more interested in (myself included)

[candid ridge]

I don't have any Android handhelds, but I already have a lot of interest in the Odin 3

So I don't really have any reason to get the RP6

[quick abyss]

It does though

[honest dust]

didn't even notice, thought the buttons were identical to the one used on the cheese

well, that settles the color question, now someone gotta convince Retroid to make a flat back shell I can buy for $5-10 and we are good

[quick abyss]

Hear me out, don’t buy this, so that they are forced to release the RP Mortgage ahead of schedule

[cloud lagoon]

did anyone in here actually preorder? just a vibe check because I've seen zero people buying so far

[quick abyss]

I’m actually eyeing the buttons if they ever become available in the diy section ;))

[cloud lagoon]

bold of you to assume they'll be compatible with other handhelds

[honest dust]

on the Retroid server both the G2 and 6 are selling, but here it's rather tame

[quick abyss]

I’ll test it out for $30, can’t hurt to have OEM quality Buttons at home.
They’ll fit into something eventually

[balmy quartz]

If it'd come out a year ago, I'd have gotten the orange one. I'm sure some people are buying them, but I can't justify the purchase.

[sly glen]

Silver looks good to me, but yea no point getting one with a rp5 and o2, plus a O3 coming.
Waiting for their mortgage screen handheld.

[cloud lagoon]

thing is, everyone and their mother already bought a Thor, it's difficult to justify if you already own that alone, let alone other handhelds

[quick abyss]

Did you buy one too

[onyx orchid]

I did but i have an rp5 so it seems like a genuine upgrade

According to what people have told me

[candid ridge]

I will give the RP6 this: it's always going to have the niche of being an 8gen2 dpad top handheld + the pricing.
I think people who still don't have a handheld and want something really powerful, or people who are upgrading from one of the many budget handhelds out there or even upgrading from the $50-100 tier of handhelds and don't want to spend too much are eating really good.

[cloud lagoon]

Thor? sure

[quick abyss]

Sweet which color

[onyx orchid]

In terms of specifically, retro enthusiast handhelds, the most powerful thing I have is a RP5. I have a steam deck but that's such a different use case.

[cloud lagoon]

black, I literally preordered the first minute it went live, but then it proceeded to get stuck in Nancheng forever, still waiting

[onyx orchid]

Having perfect Gamecube/PS2 without relying on high performance mode is really exciting

[quick abyss]

That’s tough, hope it’ll reach you soon

[onyx orchid]

I would have probably ordered the thor if I hadn't preordered the Retroid DS. That sucked lol

[cloud lagoon]

I am still waiting for a cable that works lol

[onyx orchid]

They kept telling me the cable was the issue when the cable was fine, the screen didnt work

[cloud lagoon]

it came out of the box with an unusable cable for me

[onyx orchid]

Their customer service was super rough over the DS

[cloud lagoon]

well, mine works with some cables, but it's janky

[onyx orchid]

I'm wondering If i want the konkr pocket fit instead...

[gritty garden]

If you can wait then why not

[sharp trellis]

It’s only been an hour and Europe is asleep (apart from @honest dust ).. but I woke up like 5 minutes ago and preordered the Silver RP6 12GB variant. Really looking forward to this one

[boreal spindle]

Not sleeping, but not ordering, as waiting for konkr

[sharp trellis]

Retroid need to jump on the dragon cheese colour scheme

[honest dust]

prog4m3r fucks off to bed now, 3:21am, what am I even doing

[glossy ledge]

rp6? they have sent out so fast??

[gleaming niche]

Here's our thoughts (segment starts at 02:37): https://www.youtube.com/live/LL-EJyXk8Xs?si=gHqxKZWO48egFu5S&t=72

I went with Silver 8/128 RP6 and Turqoise G2

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[glossy ledge]

whats affiliate vs non affiliate?

[gleaming niche]

RH (this community) makes a 3% commission when you buy through the aff link, at no additional cost to the buyer.

[glossy ledge]

so always good to buy through affiliate, to support them

[cold canopy]

I really want to get the silver RP6 with orange grip to recreate this look

[gleaming niche]

Yeah always appreciated! Or watch Russ's video and use his link, etc, kind of support whoever you'd like to benefit.

[nova crystal]

how does this compare to the KONKR Pocket Fit?

[lethal quiver]

The Rp6 has a 120hz 5.5" OLED but has a worse chip than the konker
The konker has a better chip but a 144hz 6" LCD

In terms of ergonomics the konker looks better but is stick oriented

[quiet lintel]

I really hate the font they used for this device. Every time I see it, I think RPG

[grizzled copper]

Oh wow I thought the 12gb version was going to be cheaper

[echo nymph]

It is a fair bit extra for the upgrade

[quasi creek]

You know what the rp6 is kinda growing on me

Feeling like this time around silver is the right color to get

[fiery barn]

I resisted yesterday's urge to buy the light purple one. I do not need this... I do not need this!!

[sharp trellis]

I woke up at 2am to take a shit and preordered whilst half asleep on the loo.. I am super smart like that

[fiery barn]

Lol, nice. Well at least you might be in an early shipment batch!

[sharp trellis]

Can't wait to be the canary in the coalmine for Retroids first 12GB variant

Adult life right?

[tribal haven]

the silver colourway looks crazy

dpad and buttons are super retro and I love it

purple too but it's not as nice to me

[sharp trellis]

Had to do it! It was either that or the Black but I'm a bit bored of black devices

[tribal haven]

have fun with the device! I've personally found my endgame in the Thor but it's nice to see people getting better and better horizontal options

259 is a fantastic price for the power you're getting too, same specs for the Thor costs 349

[sharp trellis]

I've had my eye on the Odin 2 Mini for the longest time but the battery/screen/heat and the price put me off, this is ideal for me (and I like D-Pad top too, never play FPS on a handheld or anything)

[echo nymph]

Yeah this looks like a solid as hell price 🙂

as an upgraded odin 2 mini this feels like a nice option

[thick goblet]

dont miss the boat.
rp6 for early bird at 209 is
one the best deal in town.
dont buy rpg2 for early bird. just pay 10 dollar.
u upgrade from 60hz to 120hz
u upgrade from g2gen2 to 8 gen2 ( very good chipset with proven drivers ).

[hearty star]

This is more a steam deck beater than a retro device

[west ember]

Disagree. This is definitely a complement device with the power to play just about everything available on android (both emulation and native), while being able to play a lot of indies on this thing np thanks to Gamehub/Winlator

[hearty star]

Indies? The chip can handle new gow

[west ember]

It can, but I would rather play that on a bigger screen and more offset control with the stick on top

[dense latch]

I really like the rp6 i won’t lie, and it having the 8g2 now with the rds could make it a super nice 3ds device but then again there’s the Thor so I’m split 🫠

I really want to use the iisu front end when it comes out though too

[main terrace]

Rds was super janky with my og odin 2 lol I am gonna sell both since I got thor coming

[main terrace]

I would pick my o2 portal over this any day tbh the dpad on top is not ideal for more modern titles imo

[dense latch]

Dang yeah the seamlessness of the Thor is really appealing too

[main terrace]

Also the rp6 is doing nothing new lol odin 2 line has had the 8g2 for a while now and also thor. Retroid is just catching up.

[main terrace]

Rds is reeeally jank

[dense latch]

[main terrace]

I also had to get a DIY cable setup lol the cable was so shitty

[dense latch]

Yeah

[west ember]

They doing what AYN didn't and making the Odin 2 Mini we wanted

[main terrace]

It's cool when you are in game but overall it's really janky

And really heavy

[main terrace]

Wouldnt have been dpad top if it was gonna be the new o2 mini lol

[west ember]

Fair lol, but this easily gets my recommendation over the Mini for the screen alone

I don't hate MiniLED, but 120hz OLED is just better

[main terrace]

Indeed

The pricing is crazy good value too

[west ember]

Yep

Like, i rather pay 279 for the 12/256 RP6 vs 369 for the same spec Odin 2 Mini

And I really like the Odin 2 Mini, so that says alot xD

[echo nymph]

Bigger battery too!

[honest dust]

I would agree if they gave us a flat back

and the damn thing wasn't literally the size of the Odin 3 😂

[west ember]

Fair xD

To me, as long as it isn't like Portal/Steam Deck sized, I can work with it xD

[merry anchor]

I really wish Retroid would stop featuring ergo bumps on devices when that only makes it more uncomfortable to use the sticks since they're not in the dominant position

[toxic locust]

I much prefer flat devices yeah

[jaunty urchin]

The question I keep having is it worth getting an Snapdragon 8Gen2 in a device with a d-pad on top? In my mind the device is designed for PS2 and lower games primarily

[honest dust]

depends on what you mainly play

It's powerful enough for Switch, but if you mostly play d-pad games with heavy duty shaders

[onyx orchid]

Tbh thinking about the stick placement abd ergonomics is what made me go for the Konkr instead

[celest pond]

I would only buy the rp6 in the base configuration of 8/128 because I would only use it for sixth generation and under. There are more ergonomic options for switch

[untold temple]

ofc it worth

[dawn comet]

I also agree with this point as well. Also if you plan on emulating Switch or higher, its recommended to get the 256gb storage.

[untold temple]

dpad on top comfortable

[dawn comet]

The top placement is always going to be more natural. Dpad or Top.

But I think his point is with 8Gen2, you can play more modern games that are more stick based.

[untold temple]

i dont understand guys who prefer stick on top :/

[dawn comet]

Sure you can plan old school retro games but its kinda overkill to buy 8gen2 device for that

[untold temple]

imo xbox layout is worst

[dawn comet]

Modern games definitely prefer stick. So stick on top makes sense

[celest pond]

Eventually we will get the Ayaneo 3 treatment and be able to swap the positions of the d-pad and left stick on these devices

Personally I would not buy a d-pad up top device with compromised ergonomics that requires a grip, if you're primarily interested in switch and or PC emulation

[dawn comet]

Not of fan of swappable controls. I still prefer 2 seperate devices. Dpad top device for older emulation. Stick top for more modern games.

[celest pond]

For everything before PS2 d-pad makes sense, PS2 is primarily an analog console but I still find it acceptable

[toxic locust]

I’m pretty indifferent with dpad placement for modern games

Stuff like hollow knight works better with dpad on top

[dawn comet]

Hollow knight isn't what we consider a modern game tho even though it was made recently

[celest pond]

Personally I say just make the device large enough that you can have proper inset controls so both can shine

[dawn comet]

Modern games like 3D movement games

[toxic locust]

I mean a modern game is a modern game

I’m more inclined to get a dpad top since my handheld PC is stick top

I just think the RP6 looks ugly

[celest pond]

When a game is made doesn't matter, it's entirely about the genre

[dawn comet]

Comon you know what I mean. I'm not talking about 2D platformers

[toxic locust]

Make the rp5 look good by comparison

[dawn comet]

I mean games with 3D movement

[tired cargo]

The honest answer is no. Unless you are the super niche of this hobby who plays SNES games with heavy duty shaders you do not need a device with so much power and d-pad on top. The thing with the RP6 is that it is very cheap and hence very high value, so a lot of people here feel like they need to get it, since "a lot of value = very good".

In all honesty, I think you asking this question to begin with shows you're not really all-in, so it's ok to just let this one device go. There will be more handhelds with great value in the future.

[celest pond]

Anybody that's actually concerned with value should be buying a used rp5 from some guy offloading theirs for half the price of the rp6

New shiny thing syndrome is strong

[toxic locust]

RP6 silver does look very nice

I just don’t like the button row on the bottom

[limber surge]

lol, guess i'm weird but most of the stuff i play on steam and streamed is more dpad centric

[toxic locust]

Modern games are pretty half and half tbh

[limber surge]

indies are so prevalent now and fit handhelds more

[dawn comet]

But Indies don't require a ton of power to play...

You dont need the latest and greatest device for those

[toxic locust]

That doesn’t mean they don’t matter tho

[limber surge]

anything pc emulation does require power

[onyx orchid]

If you're gonna get a device that has enough power to play stuff like GameCube, ps2 etc you're gonna want the left stick on top

[limber surge]

...maybe

[toxic locust]

Nah

[limber surge]

or maybe you want the opposite

[toxic locust]

Everyone has different preferences

[dawn comet]

If you want to buy the latest and greatest device to only play 2D platformers or Indies thats your choice. But my observation is that its overkill and not needed.

[candid ridge]

That’s making an assumption that no one can comfortably play stick-centric games with dpad top handhelds in the first play.
Which I get where it’s coming from, but it’s still an assumption nonetheless.

[toxic locust]

These small handhelds aren’t exactly the most comfortable regardless where the stick is placed

[limber surge]

i play most stuff on my rp5 even without a grip fine, except for fps games which i don't play in general anyway

jrpgs aren't very involved controls wise even if they use two sticks

[dawn comet]

True. Not all devices with stick bottom are bad. But in the RP5 case it's bad. Many people and reviewers agree the bottom sticks are unbearable.

[limber surge]

i use them fine

[toxic locust]

It’s all subjective

[candid ridge]

That’s pretty sick that you can use the RP5 sticks fine. But that makes you an exception.
RP5 from what I’ve seen and heard isn’t very comfy for stick centric games for most people

[limber surge]

i would like if they were more inset but it's really not as bad as people claim in my experience, depending on what you're playing

[toxic locust]

If you don’t like it don’t buy it

[candid ridge]

RP6 sticks seem both more inset and also a bit lower on the device, so I’m curious how more comfortable it’ll be with the device being a bit bigger

[toxic locust]

The Odin 3 exists

[dawn comet]

I think Russ latest video about the RP6 and G2 also talks about it. The sticks aren't inset enough

[limber surge]

weird thing is i find the odin 2 a tiny upgrade in comfort if any compared to the rp5

[dawn comet]

We just talking about the use case. Nobody said not to buy it...

[limber surge]

variety is the spice of life

[tired cargo]

I wouldn't be surprised if loads of people won't buy it and Retroid will have to reconsider their strategy. They've manoeuvred themselves into a corner here.

[limber surge]

if all handhelds had the same control layout, what's the point

[toxic locust]

No… not really lol

RP3, 4, and 5 all sold well

Don’t see why the 6 would be any different

[limber surge]

every retroid is dpad centric, and they sell

[dawn comet]

Retroid is in a awkward spot. Every year they keep putting better soc. I imagine we get a Retroid with 8 elite in few years but it still be Dpad top.

[toxic locust]

Wouldn’t be a retroid if the dpad wasn’t on top tbh

[limber surge]

well, ayn did their first dpad top with the thor, so who knows

[violet gale]

Thor has stick on top

[limber surge]

lol oops

[tired cargo]

They've got the branding and the name is really good, even the mainstream understands what Retroid means. But there really is little to no point in something like the Elite chip and d-pad top.

[dawn comet]

Yea but my point is why would you need to buy the next Retroid devices. Usually more power means more modern games like PC and PS3

[violet gale]

I think RP2 or 2+ has stick on top

[limber surge]

been thinking about the rg ds all day lmao

[candid ridge]

Interestingly enough, I think that would still have a niche just from the different preferences out there

[limber surge]

saving a hundred bucks?

[dawn comet]

Exactly but that's where Retroid is headed. What can they do that's different in the next 2 years?

[limber surge]

now that steam emulation is a thing, dpad top is more relevant even, imagine all the people that wanna play skong on this

[limber surge]

true

[toxic locust]

I don’t mean to sound like an ass but just cuz the use case isn’t for you, doesn’t mean it’s bad

[limber surge]

isn't the control layout, what you're complaining about, the difference?

[tired cargo]

We shall see. They really need to keep up. The RP6 looks like a misstep to me, especially after the RP5. I hope this new design won't stay for too long.

[uneven fractal]

About a year

[candid ridge]

I don't think anyone would mind if Retroid brought back their $99-149 tier as a regular thing instead of just being what they eventually do as a sale.
The RP Classic is cool and all, but I want them to keep expanding on what they have done well with the RP2S and have a budget option again that's still powerful for the price.

[toxic locust]

I would love if they did that

$200+ handhelds is a trend that I hate with a passion

[limber surge]

i still believe in retroid ds for under 200 bucks

[toxic locust]

RG DS gang

[limber surge]

depends on specs

[candid ridge]

I'm really baffled they priced the RPG2 so close to the RP6.
Missed opportunity for that to be like $30 to even $50 cheaper than the RP6 and having an absolute steal for under $200

I guess they didn't want to cut sales on the RP6 too much, but RP6 would still be a good value imo

[limber surge]

just a few weeks ago, the standard rp5 was 220 bucks

don't think it's realistic to expect the g2 one to be a lot cheaper, but i'm also surprised at how low the rp6 is

[candid ridge]

I could see the G2 eventually going down in price after the RP5 stock is all gone

But yeah, think it's cool to have an OLED 8gen2 for just a lil over $200

[limber surge]

i think it's pretty crazy

[tired cargo]

That design with those new colours and (hopefully) an even better chip would make a killer handheld to gift away to people. They really hit it out of the park with that design.

[limber surge]

like the design decisions are questionable but this is the deal of the year

[limber surge]

damn, you are one generous person

[toxic locust]

I want the silver RP6 but hate preorders

[candid ridge]

I will likely get the Odin 3 as my first high-end Android handheld, but if the Odin 3 wasn't a thing I was considering, I'd legit get this.
I don't have any Android handhelds yet.

[toxic locust]

I just realistically don’t have a use for these Android handhelds

[candid ridge]

I will more than certain be keeping an eye on both the RP6 and the RPG2 as well as potential gifts for friends and family.
Idk if any of them would want one or use one if I did get them it, but exciting times for people getting into the hobby for the first time or upgrading from cheaper handhelds

[thick goblet]

rp6 version 1 dpad on top
rp6 version 2 dpad below.
all their problem solved.
i remember got one handheld where the dpad and analog can exchange position.

[celest pond]

Instead of having six different colorways we need three different colorways with d-pad top and three different colorways with d-pad bottom

[balmy quartz]

No. Bad stick position, bad button layout. The only plus is that it's 120 Hz. This is not the Odin 2 Mini "upgrade" a lot of us wanted.

[honest dust]

If you plan on using Winlator for Indie games I would still go 12+256, especially as this is the only d-pad top device capable of this

Pocket ACE aside

[balmy quartz]

To add ... And that's fine. Retroid has made it their thing to appeal to people who like dpad games. Those of us who primarily play things PS2 and beyond don't really expect Retroid to make devices that are good for our needs.

[candid ridge]

https://x.com/retroid0fficial/status/1983182646042837386?s=46

Retroid Pocket Official (@Retroid0fficial)

Ok ok, we heard you. You’re not happy with the current RP6 design. So, we ask you to vote on which design you would like. There are two polls in this tweet. Make sure you vote on both!

X · Oct 28, 2025, 2:42 PM

Oh?

[true nexus]

you guys better vote for the rp5 design

[untold temple]

no fucking way

[true nexus]

bottom all the way

[untold temple]

they didnt make it already

xddddd

time to make good looking rp6

[shrewd agate]

oh no people will force them to do left stick top

to be even closer to odins 😄

[viscid glen]

Much better 🙂

[merry anchor]

The extra room on the bottom helps ergo with using the stick if you don't have an external grip on it

[shrewd agate]

like yes

[candid ridge]

Shorter height on the dimensions as well if I'm seeing the difference right between the two

[shrewd agate]

but that will make it essentially odin mini

[lethal quiver]

Yay I love how people are voting to have the left stick on top even though we have half a dozen devices with left stick on top yippee

[shrewd agate]

retroid doing stick top ... basically means abandoning their own core and turing it to odin 😄

[true nexus]

odin 2 mini upgrade finally

[shrewd agate]

shame

[lethal quiver]

shame

[true nexus]

rpg2 is right there for dpad top

[lethal quiver]

Why not just wait for the Odin 3 mini rather than ruining the retroid

[true nexus]

idk if thats coming out

[untold temple]

Stick on top and redisign and it was best device

ever

for this price

[candid ridge]

If they're gonna do stick top, they could honestly go with the Wii U layout that the Flip 2 has.
I feel like the whole appeal of Retroid is the symmetrical controls, not just dpad top

[true nexus]

and playing dpad on bottom is more comfortable than playing stick on bottom

[fiery barn]

Never thought I'd see Retroid go stick top

[shrewd agate]

shame

[untold temple]

finally

[shrewd agate]

why not just cancel retroid

and call it Odin

[lethal quiver]

That layout only works with very specific placement of the back buttons and tall grips

[real harbor]

this handheld is about to get completely ruined by committee lmao

[untold temple]

fixed*

[true nexus]

it's still a good $100+ cheaper than the odin

[west ember]

Nah, D-pad top

[untold temple]

Stick on top, RP5 Design and it was beast for next 2 years

[lethal quiver]

I haven't found a single controller where the dpad is comfortably on the bottom but I have found many controllers where the stick is comfortable on the bottom

[midnight fiber]

The people ruining the design will buy it, surely.

[true nexus]

this isn't a controller

[sage raft]

Lmao this is hilarious

[untold temple]

true

[true nexus]

as a generalist handheld, asymmetric controls are just superior

[lethal quiver]

It applies quite similarly to handhelds though

[untold temple]

cant believe that is real ... we get ideal device

Odin2 2025/V2 🔥

[candid ridge]

I would still prefer they keep it dpad top if you ask me as we already have a lot of stick top devices, especially with 8gen, but who am I to say what people should or shouldn't get xd
I'm curious to see where this goes.

[untold temple]

that device for x86 so, stick on top 200%

[lethal quiver]

The only exception is the Wii u if you even count it because the device is so large that gripping it lower is possible so the dpad can still feel like it is centered

[tired cargo]

Told y'all.

[candid ridge]

Clearly, a good amount of us here are in the minority for wanting either dpad top (or me personally, Wii U layout), so Ig we'll see if people would actually buy this if it's stick top

[shrewd agate]

https://x.com/KatyaVasilyev/status/1983183854140830186

Katya 🔞 (@KatyaVasilyev)

@Retroid0fficial Oh boy the stick on top fanatics are gonna ruin the best in class dpad experience just to make the stick experience slightly better, all so they can play 5 minutes of a gamecube game

X · Oct 28, 2025, 2:47 PM

[true nexus]

holy strawman

[plain cipher]

This is why im saying

Watch and see this handheld get ruined by this one

[midnight fiber]

They're not even gonna buy it, which is exactly what retroid deserves if you ask me. They got their Odins.

[oak thistle]

For those that want D-pad on top, they already have AYN devices.

[lethal quiver]

*stick on top

[fiery barn]

I saw someone say they must be doing this cause sales have been slow, kinda makes sense...

[candid ridge]

I won't go as far to say they'll ruin it as I've been able to play 2d on dpad bottom controllers and handhelds just fine (used to play 2d games on my N2ds XL a lot), but I think Retroid is making a genuine mistake here and is going to kill off any remaining uniqueness they had before

[oak thistle]

Yeah that's what I meant. Sorry but I'm groggy from getting up...point still stands tho

[fiery barn]

I don't think changing the stick placement or front buttons will affect sales much tho

[true nexus]

with the smaller redesign and stick on top i would actually buy this

[candid ridge]

It would basically be an OLED Odin 2 Mini at that point, right?
Could see the appeal.
I mainly care that the handheld is good at this point, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have mixed feelings about this though

[midnight fiber]

I'd like to see photos of your future RP6.

[true nexus]

you got it

[plain cipher]

This is silly im sorry

[candid ridge]

You already know what color you're getting? I forgot if you've already said or not x3

[true nexus]

this just makes more sense to me honestly, the rpg2 is more than enough for dpad centric games and shaders

[oak thistle]

Yeah, it'd basically be an OLED Odin 2 Mini. But then it just raises questions about why AYN just doesn't do a massive price drop. I know the rumor goes that AYN/Retroid are owned by the same parent company, but then that just means the parent company is now competing against itself.

[true nexus]

probably black or silver

[shrewd agate]

i am afraid for Mini Mortgage screen now

[midnight fiber]

I suspect it got axed.

[shrewd agate]

nah

[midnight fiber]

If it were even in consideration in the first place and not a PR move.

[shrewd agate]

i mean for the stick on top nonsense

[true nexus]

yeah i mean the mini should definitely be dpad top

[celest pond]

They finally make a design that I like and the community cries about it and makes them change it, typical

[oak thistle]

Maybe they hoped that people would just be fine with the Mini V2 screen being the full panel and prayed that people would forget after a while.

[onyx orchid]

Glad I'm getting the Konkr instead now

[untold temple]

uh i dont know where to find more peoples to vote ...

[nova crystal]

Was gonna say. You cant please everyone

[untold temple]

but im happy that we win still

[inner kraken]

God damn it, we are about to lose the best dpad top device aren't we?

[nova crystal]

Maybe we need a polymorphic handheld at this point

So everyoen can change it looks

Lol

everyone is complaining

[untold temple]

cost too much in production, and its not simple to made

[celest pond]

All because people can't wait on the Odin 3 Mini

[nova crystal]

But if samsung and apple change design nothing can stop them lmao

[midnight fiber]

Now I can say Retroid and Ayn are the same company, but with spite.

[nova crystal]

Ppl still buy

[west ember]

Tbh, at this point, just get the Odin 3. Both this and the 3 are nearly the same damn size

[untold temple]

x2 votes for bottom stick

[toxic locust]

If they make this stick top might as well just buy Odin 3

[untold temple]

https://tenor.com/view/cheering-baby-yeah-woo-hoo-lets-go-excited-kid-gif-8986898329054329350

[inner kraken]

lmao yes, might as well merge Ayn Odin and Retroid Pocket into one product then

[nova crystal]

Not the same price point

Thats the selling point of this device

100$ price diff

[storm surge]

Retroid is so cooked a brand.

[nova crystal]

But ppl complain alot

[inner kraken]

To be fair, they already did multiple layouts with the Retoid Pocket

[untold temple]

We get Odin2 upgraded for 210$

[inner kraken]

They can as well with the RP

[untold temple]

sick year

[west ember]

But at that point, you can buy used Odin 2, Minis, and Portals for cheaper with that and/or save up. Or just put that money to the RPG2

[analog hazel]

if they do dpad bottom, ayn will do dpad top odin 3 mini

[toxic locust]

[nova crystal]

Are there alot of ppl selling odin 2 everywhere at that price? Also the peace of mind that u get bnew unit is another thing

[oak thistle]

They may as well, because at this point the Odin 3 would only be able to offer a larger device, battery, and access to the newest chipset compared to the RP product line now.

[nova crystal]

Used odin2 would have 80% battery health at this point

[toxic locust]

Dear retroid: I know I’m your biggest hater but please don’t do stick top, that’ll kill your brand

[true nexus]

odin 2 and portal are too big, odin 2 mini screen is mid

[nova crystal]

this too. Odin are bulky devices

[nova crystal]

Agree

[untold temple]

stick on top. we did it

[nova crystal]

I feel bad for retroid for pleasing everyone and still getting the hate

[untold temple]

they getting small hate, so its okey

peoples now dont understand how good it will be

[nova crystal]

nah its not small everyone is whining here already lol

[untold temple]

bunch of peoples

vs real community

[plain cipher]

That's why it's silly why retroid does that

[inner kraken]

I don't think doing a 180° on the layout of their device would be "pleasing everyone"

[thick goblet]

just make 2 version,
rp6 dpad on top
rp6 dpad bottom.
why not as rp6 will be a best seller, it deserve 2 setup.

[toxic locust]

I actually like the look of the new rp6 and if they keep the Dpad on top I might actually preorder the silver one

[untold temple]

not possible

[toxic locust]

Actually looks nice imo

[untold temple]

it increase self production by allot

[oak thistle]

Not true, they did this with the RP3+

[nova crystal]

Ppl complain about design they change it. Ppl complain about stick layout they change it

[celest pond]

Spend years carving out a niche in an oversaturated market
Capitulate to vocal potential buyers, abandoning your previous fans and people that bought previous devices
Change what would have been a unique device, to something totally replaceable by the competition
Hope it works out for them.

[untold temple]

ofc bc it was super cheap device

[nova crystal]

Production cost

[toxic locust]

If rp6 goes stick top im out

[nova crystal]

Not even sure if this sell well

And ur making 2 versions

Lol

[untold temple]

votes shows what peoples really need, anything else doesnt matter

real buyers will grab upgraded odin2 insta (it better in any aspect so)

[nova crystal]

Ayn should make it 210$ now

[oak thistle]

This is still a relatively affordable device though. It's not like they're increasing the production cost to a $300 device like the Odin brand, this is still about the $200 price point minus shipping.

[nova crystal]

Its still 300$

[lethal quiver]

Right, because everyone know that the most accurate source of data is a twitter poll

[untold temple]

yeah, that a point

retroid will wipe ayn with that decision

[inner kraken]

Why aren't people asking Ayn for cheaper Odin then?

[thick goblet]

rp6 will definitely sell better than rpg2 and at 209 for 8gen2.
you wont want to miss it.
but the problem.
i want stick on top.

[untold temple]

bc that unreal?

[nova crystal]

No one complains when ayn release something lol

[west ember]

The G2 still exist and is supposed near compared to the 7g3, so we still have that. No 120hz screen tho

[untold temple]

ayn dont change anything

they dont care what peoples think

[thick goblet]

ayn and retroid are sister companies. they care for each other.

[tired cargo]

"Better keep that design and hope those terrible pre-order numbers will just magically improve for no real reason" sure is a better strategy.

[toxic locust]

Also remember folks: such early changes like these are why we don’t preorder

[plain cipher]

You don't understand Retroid lost money because decisions like this before

[untold temple]

slow display in odin 2? yes give me 2, bad quality mini led? yes give me all of them

[dawn comet]

The problem is Retroid is slowly creeping in to AYN territory with size, pricing and performance. They are moving in to a territory where stock top is preferred.

[untold temple]

ayn its not about comunity

[oak thistle]

This. It's also putting AYN into a tough position, because now both companies are competing against each other instead of Anbernic or Ayaneo.

[untold temple]

retroid is

and finally they can fight each other

[violet gale]

Odin 2 OLED is born

[plain cipher]

That's why it's silly to start pleasing people again anyway I'm not saying anything but good luck

[dawn comet]

They need to stay between 150-200 range. Once you got 200-250 you are in a different territory

[untold temple]

no

[ruby plank]

That Chris guy must have his head on a swivel.

[untold temple]

300$ is different

[oak thistle]

Not really...if that were the case they wouldn't have tried to pull the wool over people's head with the original RP Mini screen.

[untold temple]

they dont try

[oak thistle]

There also probably wouldn't have been the RP3 - RP3+ debacle.

[untold temple]

bruh, all of vendors use mistakes

[toxic locust]

After getting doxxed by the community I would too

[oak thistle]

Mistakes are made sure, but they aren't really for the community any more than other chinese manufacturers are.

[untold temple]

comone

75% pls

[midnight fiber]

The only way this would make sense was if it was a plot to reveal they're doing both, which is unlikely with the glass panels not being interchangeable. Also, the RP5 choice is extremely stupid regardless, people aren't seeing the worse ergos.

[ruby plank]

At least they are adjusting criticism before releasing the device but ummm… this has to set back the release date right?

[untold temple]

well yeah, they can make both variants at max

[plain cipher]

No sorry retroid done this before and lost money because of this now shit would going to be delay people would piss because they pre-order something and it's not even 24 hours

[untold temple]

but it a big unrealistic

[upbeat gate]

They can keep G2 d-pad top and RP6 stick top

Best of both worlds

10 dollar price difference

[untold temple]

G2 will make sense yes

[upbeat gate]

Bad enough already

[untold temple]

more*

[plain cipher]

No other way round

Rp6 dpad top and G2 stick top

[upbeat gate]

From the wording of their tweet it does seem to imply it's a RP6 only consideration

[plain cipher]

Mostly because their design are different

[upbeat gate]

They specifically mention RP6

[ruby plank]

G2 is already produced

They ain’t changing it

[upbeat gate]

Then best of both worlds

It is then

This is the way

They can justify the G2 by accident

[toxic locust]

Guess I’ll sit back and watch what happens

[plain cipher]

Same

[sharp trellis]

All arguing! Top, Bottom, it doesn't matter.. the real question is where are our sliders??

[quiet lintel]

How many actually experience pain using analog stick on bottom? How many don't experience the pain of using Dpad on bottom?

[upbeat gate]

Was gonna skip now that I have the Konkr on the way, but having a Vita like device sounds very appealing

[lethal quiver]

"Just buy the worse model with no 120hz, no Linux support and is basically just a rp5+"

[true nexus]

i mean linux support isn't that unlikely, and they still need to make a new build for the rp6 regardless

[upbeat gate]

Oh wait. Polls are in favour of them redesigning the RP6

[thick goblet]

rp6 need to be competitive, seem like people wanted the retro device like xbox controller or ps5 controller. stick should be put on top. if possible create a design where the stick and dpad can switch place.

[upbeat gate]

Shame they won't keep the Vita inspired design if the case

[violet gale]

They could make the sticks offset like PlayStation can’t they?

[true nexus]

they could, that would be best for both groups

[oak thistle]

Yeah they could. May make the device a bit wider, but at this point what's stopping them?

[quiet lintel]

Offset sticks would make the device too wide and lose portability

[sharp trellis]

I'm just hoping that @worn monolith is going to do clear PS buttons for the RP6 (please papa SRM 🙏 )

[violet gale]

Regardless of stick position, the redesign (or more like reverting to RP5) looks a whole lot better

[candid ridge]

RP5 but more rounded looks really nice imo

[quiet lintel]

I wish they would have kept speakers under the screen though

[dense latch]

If they change the rp6 design to essentially being an odin 2.5 ive completely lost all interest in it..

[storm surge]

They can’t have a new device without some controversy it’s crazy

[quiet lintel]

I'm not making a Twitter account for the poll. Dpad on top is losing, isn't it?

[echo nymph]

would be nice if they keep it as is tbh at least with the stick top for having something different

[dense latch]

😂

[storm surge]

Yes

[dense latch]

seems like it atp

[storm surge]

Making big design changes to their brand based on a twitter poll is WILD

[untold temple]

is normal

[quiet lintel]

The RPG2 isn't looking too bad now though

[untold temple]

that connection with own community

[echo nymph]

fortunately the poll is no guarantee they'll make such big changes. we'll see tho

[untold temple]

they will

[violet gale]

G2 dpad on top, RP6 stick on top makes a lot more sense

[celest pond]

Think about how much power somebody would have, if they just made a bunch of alt accounts on Twitter

[violet gale]

Making a poll and not changing based on the results is like doing a referendum and not respecting it

[sharp trellis]

I'm kind of annoyed about the idea of a redesign, the controls are more cramped and there will be less space to grip. You know what, I'm not even kind of annoyed I'm really peeved. Half the people who voted won't even buy the product regardless

[violet gale]

Sure they don’t have to but they surely will piss off people

[echo nymph]

Time for my plan to keep it dpad top 😄

for certain. People are going to be pissed off no matter what though 😄

[celest pond]

Ultimately this won't improve sales and reveals them to be a fickle brand, changing their design at the last moment

[tired cargo]

If the pre-order numbers weren't terrible they wouldn't be doing any of this. They need to make changes to get those numbers up.

[sharp trellis]

I'm in two minds to just cancel my preorder and go for a konkr instead

[echo nymph]

the rp6 does feel odd especially given what the competition has evolved into this year

[quiet lintel]

You piss off less people when there's no option. Now they've pitted the community against itself

[midnight fiber]

I'd cancel my preorder regardless of anything if they're running a poll to change it AFTER PRE-ORDERS ARE OPEN.

[thick goblet]

retroid by insisting dpad on top, they may lose their sales to konkr pocket fit if got 239 sales price. it got g3gen3 even more powerful than 8 gen 2 chip.

[midnight fiber]

This whole situation is so baffling.

[shrewd agate]

Cocker fit for 239 is almost gone enayway and will take half a year to ship anyway

And the anyaneo fanboys keep blasting taht annoying device everywhere

[quiet lintel]

As far as users are concerned, at least there are options for those that like analog on top. If you want an 8 gen 2 with Dpad on top, that's too damn bad I guess

[sharp trellis]

Super Earlybird is still there for like 2 days

[echo nymph]

yeah this poll is going to backfire

[celest pond]

🍿

[fiery barn]

"We heard you" = "we noticed no one was preordering"

[celest pond]

That's the only language a company understands

I wish Nintendo fans understood that

[sharp trellis]

I was riding a high today, but man.. Retroid really just shat in my cereal

[west ember]

Imma watch this as it goes and save my money for the Odin 3

[storm surge]

I hear that makes the milk taste shitty

[west ember]

[iron fjord]

Wait, but doesn't the original RP6 design have extra buttons? As in probably programmable for emulators and shit?

[mild spear]

So this is what I get for being generous to the complaints and voting for a redesign even if I like the current one.

[iron fjord]

Start/select are on both

[fiery barn]

Ironic

[celest pond]

Pre-ordering on the toilet is meta strats

[storm surge]

Dearslay shat in his own cereal?

[sharp trellis]

Man, I thought I was having Cocopops, turns out Retroid just took a dump in my Rice Krispies

[mild spear]

The stick on top vote is proof that none of you should’ve asked for a redesign. All you’ve done is sacrifice one of the biggest things you liked about Retroid’s handhelds.

[fiery barn]

In the twitter replies, chris confirms the redesign still has M1/M2 but they're on the back. He shoulda made it more clear tbf but then again the redesign is winning anyway without that info being clear

[dense latch]

I think the real redesign that should be suggested is making the back flat

[midnight fiber]

The redesign is so bad, man. I can't deal with it.

[fiery barn]

Yeah i liked the taller shape of the original design

Redesign just looks like the RP5

Plus your hands cover the speakers on the redesign

[storm surge]

Hell, I didn’t love it, but hey it was a bold choice and I appreciate that

[mild spear]

Yes, they’re giving those up, on top of also moving the speakers right back to the place that gets easily covered by palms. All because they didn’t like something different.

[storm surge]

Make it stand out

[midnight fiber]

It's just bringing all the weaknesses of the 5 to the 6, speakers suffer, no extra buttons, sticks and d-pads on top of each other. Whyyyyy.

[storm surge]

So it’s an Odin

[mild spear]

So it’s at least keeping that. While making everything else worse.

[true nexus]

I'm in enemy territory

[storm surge]

Means they have to redesign the grip too

[mild spear]

Congrats to all the folks that “hated” the old design, you’re getting what you wanted.

[celest pond]

The biggest problem with the company is they have nobody with a vision, they try to please everybody and please nobody. I have my problems with Ayaneo, but at least Arthur has a vision.

[craggy goblet]

Between this potential redesign and the Anbernic DS losing the SNES rainbow buttons... Guess my tastes are against the grain as I preferred both originally...

[midnight fiber]

That's good, if they could make these switchable with home and back it'd be exactly what I wanted.

[storm surge]

Naw we’re all friendly here

[sharp trellis]

All the votes are just Arthur playing an outstanding game

[true nexus]

real talk though they should've added the 120 hz screen to the rp5 g2, then I think everyone would be happy

[quiet lintel]

Nah. Now they can find something else to hate. Or new haters can take their place

[dense latch]

They put up a vote in their announcements channel in the Retroid server, everyone go vote

[midnight fiber]

Quick, someone draw an emoji over the redesign and post it on reddit, we can turn this around the same way.

[mild spear]

Nah, I’m still blaming everyone that complained about the original design and about the left stick being under the d-pad.

[celest pond]

I'm fine with it as long as all of the complainers actually buy it

[untold temple]

#899611748577980417 message they make also pull in ds

[sharp trellis]

I'm happy with having the RPC as the last Retroid device I'll own

[untold temple]

whats wrong with 33 bodys ...

[mild spear]

I don’t even hate either layout as long as they have a good offset on the controls, but I’m not gonna pretend as if Retroid putting the Left Stick on top doesn’t ditch one of the biggest positives people had for them (they always had D-Pad on top for those who prefer it).

[mild spear]

So, you buying it if they change it?

[untold temple]

i dont need that weak device, so 95% i will not

[merry anchor]

Bruh

[untold temple]

Oneplus15 now target

[dense latch]

...bro lol

[untold temple]

and Ace6 turbo/ultra

[true nexus]

tbf a lot of people voting probably aren't buying either way

[mild spear]

So then why the fuck you voting for something you don’t even plan on getting?

[storm surge]

So you’re telling me there’s a chance

[untold temple]

yh

[mild spear]

Yeah, and those guys deserve shit talking.

[merry anchor]

Someone made a great point about the old design having a really good speaker placement because they extended the bottom bezel so much

[untold temple]

Odin2 Oled i want long time

not fucking portal

[lethal quiver]

You just proved how the polls aren't actually what their community wants it is what the average social media neckbeard wants

[merry anchor]

Ngl I'm actually in the left stick on top camp, but I'm not voting because I don't intend to replace my Odin 2 Mini either way

[hollow crag]

I don't wanna make a Twitter account can someone post the redesign

[merry anchor]

They basically made it look like the RP5

[untold temple]

new design looks perfect

[true nexus]

it is weird they didn't make a stick top render

[untold temple]

even with stick on top

[dense latch]

the "new design" is just the rp5 lol

[mild spear]

The number of people who would vote for something they won’t even plan on buying regardless very easily can overpower any vote the people who actually do like it.

So those guys can very easily ruin the device for the only people who were actually gonna get it.

[hollow crag]

Thanks

[storm surge]

Took away the baby’s teeth

[merry anchor]

What

Oh right

The buttons

[hollow crag]

Honestly I liked the buttons

But i was more hyped for a mini3 and that didn't happen

[quiet lintel]

I wish home, back, start, select were like on the RP4. I love the placement of them on my device. Move the teeth to under the sticks and keep the speakers under the screen

[celest pond]

Have some confidence in your product, once you're running Twitter polls to decide the design of your handheld you've already lost. That means you don't know what the market wants, and you have no faith in your product.

[hollow crag]

Even crazier when you've already shown it off lol

[storm surge]

And still have preorders open

[mild spear]

Like shit, now I’m just regretting voting in the first place since I was just gonna vote for what people apparently wanted, but apparently I was wrong and just missed out on the several additional people (on top of those who already made it clear that they liked it) who did prefer the old design.

[hollow crag]

It's the classic angry people are the loudest issue unfortunately

[shrewd agate]

retroid odin lite

[storm surge]

Poll on dpad placement is on discord now too

[true nexus]

unless they go full magicx and cancel and redesign it multiple times, adapting to the market is a smart choice, or they end up like ayaneo with the pocket s2

[candid ridge]

#899611748577980417 message

Discord poll for dpad placement

[mild spear]

At least this one is closer.

This could unfortunately change later.

[true nexus]

i guess they're just going to total the votes from both? feels like it's going to be a lot of the same people voting but idk

[storm surge]

Yeah… I think that’s the problem with this community poll.

[quiet lintel]

They should have a third redesign. Something like this but not made in 30 seconds in Paint

[iron fjord]

Ugh. M1/M2 is actually the only thing I had wanted more from my RP5 (and Thor). Maybe sometime in the future but I don't need two 8Gen2s like that.

[candid ridge]

That could look really good if you use circular buttons for the home and back button instead

I like the idea

[uneven fractal]

Shame as the original design was probably a lot more comfortable with it being taller

Original design with stick top, is that an option? 😅

[midnight fiber]

Yeah, further spaced out buttons and wider speaker vents should be unnegotiable.

[bleak flare]

This isn't the first time. They changed RP5 from A11 to A13 after announcing it because of the crowd. This caused the RP5 to be delayed for more than a month for a feature I didn't even want.

[bleak flare]

They need Taki back

[mild spear]

Well, if there’s one positive I’ll give the redesign, the M1/M2 will still be there, but just at the back like the Odin 2 LCD/Portal models (so they’ll arguably work better as additional buttons).

[quiet lintel]

I'm not a huge fan of tiny circle buttons. I don't have RP5, but it looks not as nice to use. I'd prefer wide rounded buttons for all of start, select, home, and macro

[storm surge]

Console announcement to preorders being open seemed pretty quick. Is this their first time they’ve done that?

[carmine wraith]

Will Retroid sell spare buttons, sticks, pads ? I’ll play a lot of 4:3 content so despite beeing uninspiring, the black is the most obvious choice. But these transparent buttons…

[quiet lintel]

M buttons on the back have their own drawbacks. I've had plenty of accidental hits of them on my Odin and standalone controllers. It can be disastrous when they're mapped to save and load state

[storm surge]

Like maybe that’s their reason why preorder sales were so low because their marketing was awful

[tribal haven]

you might need to cancel your preorder...

did my part by voting, but it's not looking good for dpad on top enthusiasts (as well as people who actually this like rounded design)

[sharp trellis]

I already did

[gritty garden]

If the future was now they should have made swappable dpads and analogs

[celest pond]

I would vote the same way if I actually used Twitter

[mild spear]

“Best” part is that we already have some people voting for the redesign and stick-on-top that are outright confirming they don’t plan on ordering it regardless.

Hope everyone has fun having the device they wanted to get ruined by people who were never interested in the first place.

[true nexus]

That was just one person

[iron fjord]

For sure. I just mean to say it sucks that my one thing that would make my current devices perfect (for me) appears in a design after I've got all the devices I will need for a while.

[tribal haven]

Twitter people ruining early preorders when they're 99% not buying the RP5Pro they're asking for

[tribal haven]

LMAO

[true nexus]

If people wanted the dpad top so badly this poll wouldn't even be happening

[mild spear]

Check more than just here.

[gleaming niche]

https://tenor.com/view/혼파망-피자-당황-community-chaos-gif-16635574

[celest pond]

Tfw you want d-pad top with the current design but you're unwilling to pre-order a retroid device for this very reason

[tribal haven]

just play with the Thor for a while until Retroid learns their lesson and reuses the leaked shell for a future device

[iron fjord]

Lmao right? IF IT EVER SHIPS

[hollow crag]

This or the RG DS thread?

[tribal haven]

wtf

[echo nymph]

they'll do another version of the dpad top as a side grade in 3 months

[tribal haven]

I've had mine for a week now

[echo nymph]

quick, take your pizza and flee!

[iron fjord]

They're still at 780 and haven't moved in 10 days.

[mild spear]

Ouch. Now my struggles with Nancheng are instead sounding a lot better than they could’ve been…

[tribal haven]

man this is extremely disappointing to hear, sucks that AYN have slacked off after shipping a few batches of Purple Maxes

[storm surge]

What drama is happening on the anbernic side?

No rainbow buttons?

[tribal haven]

have Nicole or the CS been responding to your messages?

[sharp trellis]

I haven't checked it for a while and..

[iron fjord]

Yeah, it's the only SKU (aside from Lite) still under 800. No official word why.

[iron fjord]

Yeah, someone in there has a Black Max of similar number that got stuck in the 4px Nancheng vortex and still might get theirs before my Purple Max ships.

[hollow crag]

They're mad about the screen and the SOC

Even though neither have been released lmao

[tribal haven]

counting my lucky stars every day that my Thor was chucked on a plane straight to HK after getting picked up

SF Express GOATed

[iron fjord]

It's probably to do with the Purple Pros (and their queue) going further and you were technically in that line. I'm glad one of us got theirs, genuinely.

[untold temple]

potato soc, which not capable to run 3DS but they advertise it

[storm surge]

I mean, isn’t that anbernics brand? 😶

[tribal haven]

T618/T620 isn't really a potato SoC

it can run light 3DS

which is fine for a device in that price range

[untold temple]

it is :/

it should be AT LEAST A527. but it can be even weaker that that

G85 if good ds sub 100$

[storm surge]

Uh oh. It’s spilling out to here

[candid ridge]

RG DS thread actually made me mute it for a while, which I haven't really done before in this server 🗿

Though honestly, I'm kind of surprised I haven't done that period sooner given how often people react strongly to specifics about handhelds and get in arguments over it

[sharp trellis]

Well we know more about the RG DS than we do the RP6 now

[tribal haven]

oh shit mb

you said 527

[untold temple]

yeah, t620 much more powerful, but where info about soc confirmation?

[untold temple]

they similar

its anbernic, it can be 3566

[tribal haven]

QQ leaks from the Anbernic chat group have been pretty consistent that it's a T620/T618

I genuinely doubt that Anbernic are throwing that kind of SoC on a sub-100 dualscreen device, but hey if it can run light 3DS...

shit might be true and I'm all here for it

[storm surge]

It’ll be the allwinner

[uneven fractal]

Damnit! I’d definitely consider buying an rp6 with stick top but original design which looks more ergonomic.. guess I’ll keep my money

[toxic locust]

Stick top rp6 is a no buy from me chief

[untold temple]

i will not accept anything below g85/662 for that kind of price range

[echo nymph]

come on lets focus on the rp6 trainwreck in this channel 😄

[tribal haven]

I agree if it's not a dualscreen + this is Anbernic, you're dealing with the harvester here

[toxic locust]

When isn’t a retroid channel a trainwreck

[sharp trellis]

RPC

[toxic locust]

Idk man

Classic was pretty crazy during the preorder period

Who remembers beetle Saturn gate

[storm surge]

Hell they even released a black 6b model like 2 months in

Bc the community demanded it

[sharp trellis]

ohhh I missed that, I got the black sega one

[untold temple]

damn new eden insane

[storm surge]

Yeah I would have gotten that too if it had been out during preorders

[storm surge]

It connects to your watch

https://tenor.com/view/007-first-light-james-bond-gameplay-james-bond-game-bond-game-gif-13820748396719822928

[eternal drift]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-weaving-lord-of-the-rings-gif-12671347

[untold temple]

K.O

[sharp trellis]

Well there goes Retroid's USP

[muted spindle]

if retroid goes stick on top It may be dead to me

[cold canopy]

I'm more worried about this

[sonic notch]

Well this is certainly yet another shit show

[sharp trellis]

All of this because they never once thought to make it Dragon Cheese colour smh.

[celest pond]

You can always count on them for entertainment

[cold canopy]

I was legit excited about the new design. I hate back buttons and I think the "redesign" is just a boring rehashed RP5.

[toxic locust]

72% would disagree with you

[muted spindle]

did any retroid release not have a shitshow?

[echo nymph]

2s?

[toxic locust]

2S

[muted spindle]

yeah

still great

[stone epoch]

how do you cancel an already placed order on retroid's website? am regretting g2 order already.

[echo nymph]

the G2 is still safe for now, maybe

[toxic locust]

Some part of me appreciates anbernics “here’s what you get, deal with it” attitude.

But retroid tomfoolery is very entertaining

[sharp trellis]

Reply to the order email, they won't pick it up until the morning though as it's 1:17am right now

[toxic locust]

Don’t preorder these things kids

[storm surge]

Usually you can just reply to the email confirmation you receive and say you wish to cancel

[sharp trellis]

Yes papa sniff

[storm surge]

They’ll ask you a reason why usually too

[toxic locust]

Especially don’t preorder retroids

[celest pond]

Friends don't let friends pre-order Retroid

[cloud lagoon]

so I'm honestly pretty torn about this

dpad top doesn't make much sense with an 8gen2

but stick top is so not interesting with so many other stick top devices out there

[untold temple]

xd?

thsat x86 device comone

it shouldnt be on top

[cloud lagoon]

like if you make it stick top there's nothing unique or interesting about it other than "it's $200"

[toxic locust]

It’s retroid and retroid fans will eat up any slop they put out

[untold temple]

stick on top is the most cofortable position for pc games

[eternal drift]

RP6 seems like it is already going to have a hard time differentiating itself from its competitors other than being a little cheaper. Going to stick top is just homogenizing itself into the saturated market even more.

[toxic locust]

Yeah I have a handheld PC for PC games

[cloud lagoon]

yes, but lots of other handhelds with stick top exist, not the least the Thor and the Konkr Pocket Fit

[untold temple]

[untold temple]

we just get Odin2 OLED for 200$

thats it, no cons

[cloud lagoon]

I guess, if that's what you want

[cold canopy]

People don't know what they want. You give them the same old thing (at their request) and then they complain it's too familiar.

[echo nymph]

i mean it being 200 is interesting 😛

[cloud lagoon]

well, the 5.5 inch screen can be a con if you want 6

[cloud lagoon]

I suppose

[untold temple]

who want 6 ...

it like portal, which is not even close to be portable

[cloud lagoon]

well the Thor is 6" and very portable

[untold temple]

i would like 5 inch display

even

[trail fjord]

There are going to be unhappy people regardless of which design they go with. The only way to make both groups happy is to have two different versions of the RP6. One with dpad on top, one with stick on top. Let the sales numbers tell us which one is more popular.

[cold canopy]

Russ already compared the RP6 dimensions to that of the Switch Lite

[muted spindle]

The issue is rp5 is too good

[toxic locust]

If only

[untold temple]

is too weak

[cloud lagoon]

that might well end up being what happens, since the G2 also exists

[muted spindle]

Not for most people

[cold canopy]

I think they were weak to even open this up to a poll

[untold temple]

too overpower for ps2, switch (most of) and too weak for x86, ps3, xbox

and other

[cold canopy]

The G2 is the answer to "RP5 too weak"

It's literally the same thing but more powerful.

[untold temple]

true, but rp6 10$ more just

so, we just make normal ps6 🙂

[cold canopy]

Let the RP6 be its own thing??

[untold temple]

nop

we wont that ugly mf

[cold canopy]

So aggravating.

[untold temple]

and even new rp6 doesnt look like rp5 so, dont complain

[cold canopy]

Lmao

This whole debacle was a response to complaints

STFU

[west ember]

Tbh, they should've released the RPG2 as the RP6 and tried again at making a 4:3 device/RP Mini succesor, then wait a bit into next year to make the RP7 with the 8 gen 2

[untold temple]

u like rofl design not me, chill

[cold canopy]

"don't complain" they folded like a house of cards 😂

Better just to give someone else the $200

[trail fjord]

I think it's cool that they want community feedback on how it should be designed... but they should have made these polls before pre-orders opened up.

[sonic notch]

This is why this is happening tbh

[muted spindle]

Yeah its too late now

Makes them look desperate

[sonic notch]

I bet the retroids still ship before the konkrs tho

[trail fjord]

Surely they knew it would be a divisive topic. Maybe they were looking for a boost to their social media engagement?

[celest pond]

I guess you could say they ... Konkrd the RP6

[shrewd agate]

retroid and shitshow goes hand in hand

rip Mini V3

[cloud lagoon]

any publicity is good publicity as they say

[shrewd agate]

tgabkfully i have been fine with V2

[eternal drift]

Mini V3 is going to release with no dpad at all

[cold canopy]

Yeah I already came to that conclusion lol 🫩

[muted spindle]

V2 is great, love mine

[sonic notch]

Its entirely their own fault for launching 2 near identical devices for the same prices right after the kinkr and odin3

[cloud lagoon]

just two touchpads, off you go

[storm surge]

Yeah selling the rpg2 by itself would have been smarter. It just made people confused

[eternal drift]

They're going to find some way to put the mortgage screen in something that is so horrendous

[cloud lagoon]

but even without the g2 the rp6 would have had trouble selling

[muted spindle]

Vita sticks

[eternal drift]

PSP stick on the left, Vita stick on the right, 6 button layout, inline triggers

[muted spindle]

3ds stick

[lethal quiver]

And the thinkpad nub

[echo nymph]

i'll believe the mortage screen exists only when i see it 😄

[muted spindle]

The G2 is just so pointless

If there was no rp6, okay

[trail fjord]

Do we know if the SoC in the RP6 will support video output? Wondering i the dual screen attachment will work on it

[west ember]

V2 is goated devices

[muted spindle]

It does

[hot gorge]

I need a 3rd option with a 5 inch screen 😔

[cold canopy]

V3 will have e-ink b&w screen, sliders, rear firing speakers, a crank like the playdate, no video out, no sd card slot, only come in piano black, and only charge wirelessly