#Powkiddy V90S
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Weird. Canāt click into the preorder page from the main page or from their blog post
Is this some secret pre order or itās it gone live yet?
The link I pinned doesn't work?
That link works. You canāt navigate to that page through the main website though.
What discount code are you guys using?
i think iāll pass on this one. it isnāt enough of an update of the V90 for me.
Is there any pics online for the b&w one?
Looks like a planned color upgrade
Yawn just A133 - this hobby is starting to wear on me
RH link 
Thank you for visiting powkiddy.com. POWKIDDY V90S will be available soon. The pre-sale window is now open. You can place an order now. We will start sending packages on May 31st.In order to give back to our customers for their support of POWKIDDY, we are selling it from $44.99, with a discount of $5, which means the b
Iām tempted by the grey but never had a powkiddy device before
Howās the build quality? Similar to 35xxsp etc?
On their older devices I mean
its powkiddy, so it will likely be ok, but inferior.
it honestly depends on the device
I've had powkiddy devices that were built just as well as their anbernic competitors like the q36 mini, and ones that use a kinda chalky feeling plastic that can feel a bit cheap like the rgb30 or og v90
the $45 price, while fair is nothing to brag about lol
there's a coupon so it's $40 including shipping to most of the world
which is pretty aggressively priced for a brand new device, and should lead to 30-ish on aliexpress within a few months
not bad at all
but also what were they thinking ditching the headphone jack
completely ruins this device for public transit or airplane use and that's like half the reason to want a little clamshell
I usually use speakers at home but at home I can use a bigger and comfier handheld
Does it have Bluetooth?
I donāt know how stripped down these devices are. For $40 it seems worth a go though
Also somehow Powkiddy get stuff to my tiny island in the middle of the Mediterranean stupidly fast
no wireless antennae/chip so no BT or wifi
Like 5 days from China when I ordered my brick
Oh wow, yeah thats kind of weird indeed
normally you have to pay $300+ to ayaneo to lose your headphone jack
Haha, to be fair I donāt get much latency with Bluetooth on my Ayaneos but maybe I just donāt pay enough attentionā¦
I can't stand BT audio for gaming personally
I use a usb C to headphone adapter for my y700 and ipad
Soo does this thing have the A133 or A133P?
I can't help but find the device to be a massive L in general
Only reason to buy is for the rubber membrane buttons
And those could easily be terrible, given Powkiddy's track record
I haven't had too many PowKiddy devices but I've liked their membrane feel in general
If the dpad feels like the one in the V10. I will get this. Really liked V10 buttons
If you look at the photo posted by Taki on Twitter, it looks to be the A133P
1.5 vs 1.8
iirc the A133P on the tsp on stock os was underclocked to run as A133 to avoid heating issues.
Oh it's the Brick SoC huh
Yes this is basically Brick Flip
They do work together powkiddy and trimui they even sell trimui products on powkiddy channels, I wouldnāt be surprised if itās a powkiddy sub brand
Clamshell Brick doesn't sound like a bad thing
different screen and build quality though the brick is premium build
i appreciate that this isn't using the battery as a heatsink. though seeing the soc just sitting there i have half a mind to find a lil baby heatsink for it š¼
Me... Who remembers when everything was just ingenic chips
I can make it bearable but it needs to support the features for it.... With as cheap as these devices are wired probably the way to go
Unless its one of those weird low latency dongle types
I get being burned out on lower spec devices when you already own 14 of them but in the end if it can play NES full speed without screen tearing and the controls are good and you canāt have fun on it thatās a you problem imo
I mean, I've been playing on an ESP32 device for the last couple of weeks, and it's been awesome
And that thing plays nothing but 8bit (pretty old emulators too)
But it has incredible battery life and boots in a couple of seconds straight into the game
Almost makes me wish someone made another handheld with the original Miyoo chip, just closer to GBC in size and shape
I will wait until reviews before making any conclusions
Mainly since I don't need one 
Listen. ONE of these clams has to have a pearl in it, and I will not stop buying them until I find one!
Miyoo Mini Flip lol
I would agree if my hinge didnt get so cronchy that Iām afraid to move it now.
Granted, I did do that battery replacement so it could be ENTIRELY my fault
Am I the only one who thinks this thing is dead on arrival? Isn't it the same effective price or even more expensive than the 35xxsp?
Like it's not tiny or cheap and it's a straight downgrade 
Other than very niche use cases it's pretty pointless, yeah most people should just get a 35xxsp
Iām just a simp for Powkiddy cause my first handheld was an X51
I've been considering buying one, is it any good? I'm looking for a good 16:9 device for portmaster
Sorry, corrected myself
ohh lol nvm
what's your budget? ironically the best 16:9 handhelds for portmaster also happen to be android handhelds with rocknix support
Ideally $80 or less
Obviously the ideal portmaster handheld would be the RP5 but I can't drop that kind of money on a handheld right now
maybe the GameMT e6+? peeps used to complain a lot about the dpad but I heard it has been revised
I'll give it a look, thanks
Although I'm just tempted to wait out the market and see if I can get by with my r36s despite the low quality buttons
I'm still holding out hope for an up-to-ps2 handheld releasing within the next year for around $100 š„ŗ
hmm yeah don't count on it
I feel like we're already pretty close
I would almost say the Retroid Classic for that. But just barely not.
Does anyone know why retroid stopped making the rp2s?
Would be such an amazing deal if it still existed
I am really hoping for an rp3s. Use the classic chip with rp3/4 shell and screen
I'm just hoping for a cheaper retroid anything that runs portmaster
But yeah there is a big gap between the top end stuff and the budget stuff rn tbh we need more $100 devices. There's not really even a really great nononsense up to N64/DC/psp device under $100
Thats what Iām secretly hoping for really.
Iām willing to give up an analog stick if this thing does N64 at >= 30 fps. But maybe I should just grab a 35xxsp while its on sale.
That's the thing, most of the time when you reach a level of performance where n64/dc/psp run perfectly, you end up being able to run ps2 and gc acceptably well too
after doing some n64 on rp classic, I would not recommend giving up the analog stick 
If only they said use the brick screen that would have been even more amazing
I wouldn't say that tbh? But idk maybe t618 GC/PS2 is acceptable to you. A523 looks promising for N64/DC/psp but definitely not for GC/ps2
I wouldn't say n64/dc/psp run perfectly on the t618
Powkiddy hates money
They still require tinkering to run a bunch of games properly
imagine how many devices they'd sell if they put good dpads in them
Eh not really in my experience outside of specific hard to run edge case games? I'd call t618 close enough to perfect for those systems... Saturn not so much tho lol
Also, do we know if this has JUST an A133 or is it actually an A133P? There is a marginally noticeable difference in power there.
the v10 has a good dpad but it's messed up in other ways, at least it (was) cheap
A133
Darn.
I live for the specific hard to run edge case games 
Blast Corps my beloved
I wonder how the button feel of this will be in comparison of the XXSPs
If it is mushy instead of clicky, I might get it
In pictures where the chip is visible through the shell it says A133P. I asked this same question a little bit ago too since powkiddys spec sheet only says A133
Bummer about the V90S not having a headphone jack, Bluetooth, WiFi, or HDMI out but as long as it has a squishy D-pad and squishy buttons like the original V90 (and hopefully gets Knulli) I can live without all those things. Give to me the squish! š
It is weird though how in some ways the V90S is actually a downgrade from the original V90. I can't fathom why they thought it was a good idea to drop the stereo speakers and headphone jack!
i do appreciate something with really good tactile switches and tolerances, like the nintendo sp is really fantastic. a lot better than nintendo's later clicky buttons imo. So i'd be psyched about the 34xxsp, but the switches anbernic chose for the 35xxsp have something like 160g actuation force vs the SP's 100g, and i'm not the slightest bit convinced that they rectified that. I don't know why the reviewers didn't talk about it, they babble endlessly about how loud da buttons are though. a lot of people stopped using their 35xxsp's over it
Pretty sure Russ did this exact actuation force test and found the 35XX SP v2 was much closer to the real SP. Something like 10g off
well respect if he did that, i didn't catch that. i've heard people say v2 isn't as loud, but not talk about actuation force, and i've head weird remarks about "the dpad is the same the others changed" etc
i'll have to look more into it
yeah he talked about it a lot and winged a setup to try and measure it. also did well to mention it in his review of the v1. truly god's greatest reviewer. definitely way better in v2 and i guess i'd infer 34xxsp probably wouldn't be any worse
now i'm excited to see his 34xxsp review, he'll probably give good attention to the buttons
Yep. He's the goat for actually putting a number to it. Sometimes there's a lot of conflicting reports.
Guessing this is meant to be a continuation of the V90 in its niche.
Its niche being the cheapest way to get the amount of power it has from a "big" manufacturer". Which the V90 was for years, sitting between the datafrog and stuff like the miyoo mini in price and performance. Which is one hell of an achievement.
Which admittedly the V90S isn't hitting right now, as it's a similar price to the probably superior 35xxsp on AliExpress, at least in the UK. The SP is actually slightly cheaper.
But the SP has halved in price since launch over here. If the V90S drops a bit in price over the next few months, it'll be a great buy for certain people, particularly for gifts.
Has gamma got one yet? Gamma core will be great on this device.
Powkiddy just updated the info on their website, so it's the A133P
V90 Short
I can deal with android on a device without a touchscreen, but i feel like the lack of WiFi makes Android a hard sell
I just pop the dongle in now and then for updates, boxart etc. Been achievement hunting for so long now that itās wearing thin for me. I think Iām 35 on the leaderboard now.
Seems insane to me. Kinda nutty when any of these has no wireless connectivity
Youāre right, I donāt get it. I use to buy every PK device that came out now so many are without wifi so I stopped. Someone ages ago on a PK thread said they have two line of devices premium and budget, I joked that the only thing that differentiates the budget line is that it doesnāt have wifi. I was laughed at. I still believe this is true.
Yeah. No touchscreen is already a pain and no Wifi will only add to it. Not to mention Android has next to no default support for external Wifi (and Bluetooth) dongles to make things worse.
Beginning of your villain arc 
I think somebody on here said it would be a new os
it looked sorta batocera-ish in the preview vid
Nothing confirmed. Just some requests to connect
That is correct.
$50 Shipped US, Not sure if that's a good price for this device and hardware š¤ No Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and No 3.5mm Headphone Jack
it's kind of not, but for the US it's much cheaper shipped than the 34xxsp is right now. ..but then the much more similar and still more fully featured 35xxsp is not much more at ~$60 shipped from ali with the right coupons right now (i might be underestimating taxes a little though)
not using battery as a heatsink is an improvement though. membrane vs tactile switches is also a consideration. A133P is marginally more powerful, though unlike the brick/tsp I don't see the case or anything being used as a heatsink so maybe there will be thermal throttling or something. when this gets cheaper it may get a lot more compelling
I'd be ok with powkiddy os on this
I didn't even add sales tax, Totals to $55.25 yikes
I'm US and they didn't charge sales tax for me
it's a state by state thing
yeah no headphone jack is kind of a dealbraker for me
if usb dongles work i guess its workable but its an extra step that its competitors dont have
miyoo a30 has a weird compatibility issue with usb dongles. hopefully this doesn't have that same issue.
I don't mind the lack of a headphone jack as long as it supports usb c audio since I main the google usb c ear buds
For europe, this kind of seems like the best deal when it comes to clamshells For example, for rg34xxsp, besides taxes, you also have to pay like 20$ in shipping
And the rg35xxsp is more expensive then this even on ali
Weird how regional prices are. The SP is dirt cheap in the UK.
It was double that price at launch.
Even the original v90 is barely undercutting it anymore 
I love the V90. But let's be honest, the SP is worth an extra £6.
Maybe it's an EU thing
In my region with VAT it comes to about 60 ish euros
Must be I guess. Maybe Anbernic misjudged and flooded the UK with SP's or something.
The V90 is at a similar price though
Might get it down the line to compare it with the v90s
This price is for og rg35xx, there are multiple devices listed, SP is the most expensive:
Looks like we are just rolling a dice for prices at this point

So how underpowered is this by today's standards? š
yes.
A133P is still decently relevant as a budget chipset
Unless you want to play ports
But in either case, it's probably gonna be replaced pretty soon by the A527 in that regard though
If I had to pick I'd opt for a device with the rk3326 over a133. The only linux kernel available for a133 is some ancient BSP 4.x kernel with no drivers. So good luck getting support for any recent
usb WiFi dongles.
I would take a a133p device... With wifi 
is it your game console pals?
imagine they make the most reliable hinge

Yea, I told them to forget the rockers 
TELL THEM TO GIVE ME A GOD DAMN 3,5JACK
Paojitang with the best Apple move 
Invaluable advice.
Any good reason to get the OG PowKiddy V90 for $30 today ?
Smaller
To play nes and gb family games
Historical, maybe
I heard A527 also has similar heat issue as A133p 
rg35xxsp continue to age like fine wine š·
better than the miyoo flip, v90s, and even 34xssp
LOVE the Flip. And I am persoanlly more interested in trying the V90S than the 35XXSP. I didn't like the buttons on the 35XXSP... sold mine shortly after getting it. We all have our preferences.
did you get the v1 or the v2 of the 35xxsp
V2
Miyoo Flip buttons and shoulders are perfect... IMO
praying the flip v3 hinges are good š
I have a black V2 Flip and no issues. I use it daily. š
yeah i'm just paranoid
Fair... totally fair
I have messaged Miyoo a lot about that hinge and they didn't seem interested in a revision... but that was right before Russ' video released.
it shouldn't be that hard to engineer a good hinge
people have been making custom og sp shells with good hinges for well over a decade at this point
Tell that to Nintendo.. haha. I believe they also had issues.
they did? which device
i hadn't heard of any
never seen nintendo clamshell hinges break from just opening and closing, it's always a drop or a hit
I think it was the early DS units?
the launch model ds was undesirable for reasons besides durability but yeah i've heard it wasn't the best, personally i've only used the og sp, ds lite, and dsi xl
I went from Neo Geo Pocket Color to DS Lite. š
funny how people keep agonizing about there not being good options for ds emulation devices when they could just pick up a dsi for $50, hack it, and load roms onto an sd card
Bought my kiddo a DS Lite for Christmas and he loves it.
Maybe the V2, V1 not so much lol imo
Even the V2 had buttons woke my wife upstairs. Sold all of mine, no good for me.
Yeah i love my V2 but even with kapton tape over the domes it still is clicky enough it can keep up a light sleeper to be sure haha, not sure about a room over etc. but definitely annoys my partner if i play it in bed
For me it is the sound of the buttons + how hard the buttons are, not good
Wish they used the buttons that the 40xxh have
I love those
I loved the buttons of the original V90
But I destroyed them with too much Pokemon lmao
And i broke it trying to fix it
If I used that device again I would be a single man, so I sold them all off. Clicky buttons make you sound like a child with a Fisher Price toy.
not quite that far for me haha, mostly just "god why do they use those buttons", so i usually just use my switch lite now
It feels like the buttons on the front are the same as the V10, clicky.
The YouTube short videos made me laugh, the person "touches" the triggers as they try to press them... I think I know why š
clicky buttons gave my wife the ick and she left me
and yeah i noticed in all the v90s youtube shorts he like pretends to press the l/r buttons for some reason. scared to give the impression that the buttons are noisy i guess. i think in only one of the videos he actually presses it in enough to actuate the switch.
+/- the same price as the 35xxSP atm
works out a good $10-15 cheaper than the Anbernic, at least for Australia
It's $42 on the anbernic website atm but then they tack on $12 shipping
yep shipping is where the differences are at
cheapest on ali rn is around $53
aye yep
on their site its 42 usd atm š
yeah I mentioned here
but then you got that additional shipping fee
Gotta say visually I like it more than Anbernic's clamshell device
Went for the grey model, wonāt stand out in a crowd when it comes out of the pocket.
no shipping no taxes š
The free shipping really hurts Powkiddy compared to Anbernic. When people talk about prices they never include shipping.
Like that $15 Anbernic controller that is impossible to get for $15 because the shipping almost doubled the price 
Thats why itās hard not to buy the newest PK devices, they are always in the impulse buy territory. Also postage to Australia is usually 3-4 days.
you mean the other way around?
I'd say it hurts anbernic more
Powkiddy's got reasonable prices and then you don't get slapped with shipping or tax like you do for anbernic
Yeah I was gonna buy one but I never did cuz that shipping is bogus
Nah. It should hurt Anbernic more. But it hurts Powkiddy because they offer a good deal and don't make it obvious. I am sure a lot of people are not even aware of the free worldwide shipping Powkiddy do.
Is this in the US?
ahhhh that's a fair point, I didn';t know about it either until someone in here told me
It's USD, but I'm in australia
Powkiddy are odd like that. They have always available vouchers on the website (that may not be obvious to casuals) that knock $5-$10 off, and offer free shipping.
It's like they try to hide the fact they give good deals.
UK. Fuck it, we ride!
Yeah same but for the price I don't think I can knock it. V90 was the handheld which got me into all this and I haven't got a newer clamshell yet.. I just can't bring myself to buy an XX because I have an irrational hatred of that static noise they make when you close/switch games
Iāve owned all of the PK devices from the last 2 years and the D-pads are fine. Problems are always massively blown up by people on YouTube.
9 fucking dollars tax to France š¤”
why is there a tax?
I think everyone has to pay tax, but EU countries have much higher VAT rates than the US
$1 for every 10 V's in the V90S.
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Wasn't any tax to here in Australia
you are taxed in venomous spiders
venomous spiders are delicious pan fried with sriracha tho
Just imagine taking a bite into that moist plump spider abdomen
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Not to mention the baby-eating dingoes, constant assaults from boxing kangaroos, the snakes, the jellyfish, the octopi
We've got lots of good stuff here
so this is basically a clamshell trimui brick?
Pretty much - same chip etc. Just no Wifi, Bluetooth or 3.5mm jack.. all of which aren't really relevant for me anyway so I'm pretty stoked to pick this up
The screen aināt the same as the brick
Meaning, it's less crisp?
Significantly so
One of the main selling points of the Brick is that it has a very high res screen
It's technically not a perfect integer scale for anything
except single screen DS iirc
But 1024Ć768 is such a high PPI count (especially on a 3.2" screen) that it's very hard to see the unbalanced pixels for any system
To put it into perspective, I have a TV that is 768p 
Built in dvd player and everything 
and most important, the drop bears.
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The fact DVD's were only 480p blows my mind.
I remember going from VHS to dvd and thinking it was perfect.
But that was with crts blurring the crap out of them 
Hopefully this doesn't have the wrinkly PVC screen cover that the original did
I know someone who thought the redback spider was what bit spiderman and tried š
Did it work?
No wifi is weird considering all the other a113p devices have it
Guess they gotta save on cost somehow
Yeah it is a bit odd, but think you're right - it's all cost cutting at the end of the day
nah, Powkiddy V20 also doesn't has Wifi with the a133p
Oh the V20 has the a133? That's news to me, I assumed it was another RK3326 powkiddy shitbox š
would have been better in a sense, as the rk3326 could have cut this down by 10bucks and gave more OS options 
I guess they didnt get my message about a slanted start select
Iām in kiddy hole. š
I absolutely loathe the a133. Over on the knulli discord there's a lot of discussion on how much of a closed hassle of a platform it is. However, the one thing it's good at is sleep. Having a clamshell sleep quickly when you close the lid might be nice. It loses about 10% a day of battery in sleep mode.
Phrasing
3326 my beloved
Enough for GBA
And PS1
What you can realistically play without sticks
Got a PK email to say mine is on its way, should get it by Friday 
Ordered mine for 45$, lets hope it will be good
If itās not good, itās only $45
PK over the last 2 years their stuff has been pretty good, for cheap toys they are great.
pixar reference? š
That's true, I bought the e-waste R36 Plus and it's really awesome after modding buttons etc š
when will there be any review for this mother flipper?
Ah, Fellow VladNerd fan lol
I think the v90s out the Box is gonna be kinda meh with StockOS lol. Kinda like the v20. But I'm not sure what CFW support will want to be on there.
A133p doesn't have 32bit support for Portmaster, so you end up Missing Games because of that. And AllWinner don't care about adding any.
On top of the X35h device as well
Knulli has Trimui support, it should not be big problem to port it to V90s then
Knulli should be fine
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we just wait for GammaOS 
MuOS have TSP/Brick cfw in beta ... so ...
I'm hoping for NEXT/PAKUI to come to this
Shipping already pog????
Yep got my notification yesterday, I live in Australia so might get mine by Fridayā¦maybe. PK sometimes only takes 4-5 days
x35h is just a shitshow in terms of software support - the sd card shenanigans, the stock powkiddyos, holy moly
I think gamma was working on it but I'm not interested in Android on 1GB on the x35h
We all hope for, gamma, knulli, muOS or pakUI. I think knulli will come to the v90s, those DEVS will rescue us from PKOS
50ā¬
$10 extra for USA people because.........reasons lol
⨠taxes āØ
Sure. šš
Placed my order with AliX, we'll see how that goes
This image has brought such comfort to me in these trying times
isn't it batocera on this device?
arkos or emuelec personally for me
knulli has a few bad batocera traits that probably won't be shaken off that easily
This chip wonāt have arkOS
Iām very happy that it will get pakUI
My paks are working yeah. But of course need Shaun or someone to help figure out how to get MinUI to boot. Iāve been trying today on the V20. So yeah Iām interested in supporting the V90S but thereās lots to sort still.
Miyoo Flip Iām also working on⦠H700 and the G350 I have BitPal working on ArkOS and Pan4ELEC ⦠too many projects. š
BitPal for G350 would be great, that is using minUI through arkOS. I set that up last week. Iām yet to try BitPal because I sold off my 80 odd handhelds to start fresh. Would love to give it a go.
BitPal is standalone for ArkOS. Not using MinUI.
I just have it still looking like MinUI style. š Iām deciding on if I should change that.
Even better, Iāve noticed some bad screen tearing in minUI on the G350 that canāt be fixed.
Ah. Yeah this is ArkOS as is and BitPal lives in Ports
Is that a theme in arkOS theme downloader? I havenāt seen it there.
I guess Iām letting the cat outta the bag on what Iāve been up to š³š
No BitPal is basically a āPortā you launch it from there.
Maybe I can move it to tools? Thatās where Iām launching it from in the V20.
Ok, I wish I have tried it already and I usually try all CFW. But it came out just a few days after I sold my Brick.
Shouldnāt of sold all my HHās š
Iāve been playing the Flip daily. Brick is just sitting here lately.
Yeah I never used the Brick much, wasnāt very comfortable to use.
Fair. Flip is comfy and the buttons are dreamy. Hinge of course has ruined its reputation.
I would have got the flip if it wasnāt for all the reported hinge problems. Thatās why I went for the v90s, I loved the v90 despite all the shortcomings
My black Flip I open and close a few times daily and no issues. Has anyone seen a black with broken hinge?
Havenāt seen any videos with that color, itās mainly the grey.
Same. So weird. Miyoo told me they are working on replacement⦠š¤
there's reports of all the colors going bad unfortunately
outside of any problem with the hinge piece itself, plastic strength, etc, it seems the biggest problem might be that the design lets the hinges slide further into the case and opening and closing it when that happens will kill it if nothing else does
My black V2 is still ok and I flip it open multiple times a day. But the screen is a bit floppy now like my 3ds not too bad but a little loose. How's that floppyness on yours?
some advice that is being given is to use adhesives to keep the hinge in its position in the case
i'm not up to date on the failure analysis/trying to keep them alive though, since i don't own one, but that's what i read last i looked
Bummer. Yeah Miyoo said already working on other options. I hope itās true.
Mine still feels great
Yeah but is there any floppy ness to it?
No
Unfortunate just me then š„² I've messaged miyoos AliExpress store asking to buy some new hinges anyway
And Miyoo said I can't buy replacement hinges seperately š
Or RetroArena which is what ArkOS is based on and is also using a stripped down ES to hands-off most things to the RetroArch menu
The pic of the motherboard, posted by å¼ čę¹ in Powkiddy QQ chatroom
So the buttons are using conductive rubber, unlike most new clamshells out there
BTW sales start in China tomorrow, and launch price is a tiny bit less than 200RMB
Aaaaaaa, the Micro Switches for Start/Select/Menu buttons from the v10 
At least kapton tape mode to help with False Diagnols will be awesome on this Board! Good work PK, but gotta get Quieter switches. Yours are just too loud
Which handheld had the same sort of contact point design for the D-pad?
X35h was different, and that handheld had really good handling of diagonals
...Oh shit
OG V90
V10, RGB30, and others
Etsy has a Link for some Kapton tape modding if you don't wanna try it yourself
Not sure about the RGB30 (especially the revisions) but the V10's D-pad was well handled in my inpression in the storefront
Speaking of which I'd love to go to Huaqiangbei again
The v10 dpad was soooo good, I put it in my Rgb30 
How did you actually do this, btw?
I bought a v10, then did the d pad away between devices lol. Membrane & all. The RGB3O is a great device, just held back by that d pad. the v10, sucks the same with the rgb30 d pad or its own d pad 
Opening up the RGB30 isnāt fun. I do remember that. š
I cut my finger is why I remember
I used plastic Spudgers, was honestly really easy
They were super cheap for like 50 of them
My fault for not having correct tools.
I have the fix it kit now that Russ told me to buy. š
I got the idea from all the other people before me on Reddit & YT who hurt them selves lol. I also heard them and wanted Plastic ones so I wouldn't damage my device
Mine is in California. Might have it by Friday
Hi Fred, love your videos btw. Great in the morninG with coffee
I canāt buy one unless I sell a handheld. Iām on strict orders. š
im selling my r36s to get a rg35xx pro, that way it looks like the exact same device š¤£
the r36s gets a lot of undue hate
you used to be able to regularly find it for around $20, I got mine for $21 shipped
all of the controls are at least usable and the screen is gorgeous, the only real bummer is the lack of wifi
Alot of people like the r36s. Its probably the most sold emulation handheld device today
yeah and thats the only reason why im upgrading it for the wifi
That was like me, I sold so many HHās and now Iām down to 4. I have the yearly sell off, feels so good.
I have a box of about 8-10 I need to sell. š¬
Which ones are yall selling?
40XXH, 40XXV, X55 (2), Mini V4, RG353P, A30, TSP (2). I think a couple more but I am not by the box right now.
OH... RG35XX OG board inside a black 2024 shell.
I liked that one a lot.
You sure you want to sell the mini v4? They've stopped making them
I moved my green x55 on a few months ago, it was my most played device. Very underrated.
I don't use it. I have a V2 that I will never sell.
I'm still on the fence about the v4, I kinda want to snag a blue transparent one
But also I really don't need one
Yeah they are still available right now... all but the grey
Ideally I want three devices; a 4:3 clamshell with sticks, 3:2 4"+ horizontal, and 1:1 vertical
But no good options exist for any of those yet 
At least not in my price range
Btw do you sell on eBay or what
The Miyoo Flip doesn't fit the 4:3 clamshell for you!?
Hinge issues are a huge dealbreaker for me
I have in the past if I need to. I mainly sell to friends or give them away.
I use mine daily. It is a black unit and no issues. But yes I get it. V3 is coming!
Watch v3 have the exact same problem 
But yeah hopefully not, I'll most likely get the v3 if I don't hear about hinge issues
Awesome!
Mini Flip is confirmed to be the Mini V4 replacement. Same chip and screen.
Not gonna lie the mini flip is pretty tempting too
no it is a "flip" š
this is the V90S channel XD
Yeah we got off topic talking about my handhelds.... sorry
Wait a second how big would gba be on a 2.8" 4:3 screen
I don't think the V90S has that screen... š
Mb I'll switch 
still very good news
I like DM and friends
you know that every device with a hinge will eventually have a hinge issue
I've never had an issue with any of my nintendo hinges
I have two gba sps, ds lite, dsi xl, and n3ds
just about every nintendo devices had one form of hinge issues or another. whether you use it enough or it'll form other issues, or if you sell it or break it or whatever else before it happens is another story, but hinge issues happens for devices with hinges. you might get lucky and not have major hinge issues, but moving parts are moving parts, and you'll always have a risk or chance of having issues no matter who the manufacturer is.
i have 2 ndsl with minor hinge issues, 1 3dsxl with hinge issue, and a 2dsxl with a floppy hinge, even though i rarely use it. it's partly luck of the draw and partly that it's a moving part.
if you drive a car long enough, you're going to have tire issues, brake issues, engine issues, etc. moving parts will always have probability of developing issues over time
Yeah I doubt I'll ever use any of my handhelds enough to break the hinges, they just collect dust most of the time 
Yeah I donāt think I would break mine either, I wouldnāt open and close it like a 3 year old with a new fidget toy, that seems like the trend on YouTube.
Is this using the same batocera as the v20?
yes but no
xD
Yesnt
Yeah but no but...
Yeah the pow kiddy store seems the cheapest right now
41,70 usd ⦠cheaper for me.. i have it for 48 usd from web⦠š
i think iāll just keep my V90. just recently i rediscovered my n3ds and there is an endless amount of games to play before iāll buy another handheld.
Huh? We can play the games that come on these things? I thought buying handhelds was the game
while this is true the latest āinnovationsā kinda made me second guess myselfā¦
3DS is STILL a really good emulation handheld.
And, y'know, 3DS games.
All SNES and below. A fair amount of playstation and N64, all DS and 3DS. That's a lot of games.
And 3D virtual boy 
Red Viper is awesome on the 3ds
A lot of people have made ports of PS1 games on 3DS lol
Halo has a Port on the 3ds 
One day I will play through that wario game on my 3DS. One day...
how do you always find these deals?
Usually I scroll endelessly in related items, but this time i simply made a search and it popped there after not much scrolling. The searching algorythms are getting worse though. Before it was easier to find new stuff.
dude! didnāt know about this. will totally check that out!
hard pass from me then
If there's no auto-shutdown function on closing of the lid (even via custom firmware), then I'll be giving the V90S a miss
there's not there's no sensor
the thing is only $27 in local china market, it's trying to undercut everything hence the lack of.. everything. and that's launch pricing, if it's like the og v90 it's gonna go way down in price over time
Which is fine. I'll be sticking with the Anbernic clam shells for the moment.......will give the Miyoo Flip a go if they manage to improve the hinge.
I didnt like at all the dpad on the rg35xxsp. If this on is normal rubber membraine it will be good enough for. The lid issue sucks, but I guess yiu can just close it and tap power.
Lol they took the chipset whose only redeeming quality is its sleep mode and excluded lid magnets to invoke sleep?
L
in hindsight the v90 power switch is a real feature lol.
Yeah it seems like it's an upgrade in hardware but downgrade in features
isn't it just an rk3326 anyway? that doesn't has particularly good sleep iirc
a133p
oh really? did not expect that
The size confirmation killed it for me. The 5-10 bucks are not worth saving and losing on all the stuff the Anbernic has (mainly wifi, bluetooth, video output, 3.5 connector and closed lid sensor)
yeah I don't know who is this for
it has nothing going on against the RG35XXSP other than maybe 5-10 bucks if that
I get that Powkiddy's USP is "cheap" but they could have tried to differentiate a bit
maybe the buttons are quiet and soft? I guess it could have some potential there
Instead of the lid closing to put it on standby it will be a button. I donāt think itās the end of the world honestly. At least I never have to use those anbernic SP buttons anymore.
Damn it just needed to be the same size as the Miyoo flip or the rg34xxsp and it would of been a win. If they cut down on that black border bezel they could of shrunk it down a bit.
Looks like I'm 100% sticking with my Miyoo flip then š
Honestly it's the main reason I picked one up
for use out and about
you don't realise how loud the anbernic's buttons are until you're in a quiet waiting room
the V90S will be my out and about device, hopefully quiet buttons, cheaper so less anxiety around damaging it
And hopefully eventually good sleep with CFW
way cheap on banggood
for a US buyer it's ~$30 after shipping and tax without the new user discount, and $26 with it. That's half the pre-order discount price from powkiddy which they're not even running anymore
I just bought one for 16ā¬, guess we will see if it arrives 
Itās so cheap, buy two and itās free postage as well. New user is even better.
it's free postage anyway, including vat and yeah it's 16⬠because new user
Mine says free postage over 79$ AUD
different country, different postage
lol same here. i said im gonna pass on this, but 16⬠is worth a try 
mine goes to Germany after all 
i've bought soldering stuff from them before. i think the only thing whack they do that i'm aware of is they lie about offering shipping from a US warehouse and then you have to wait for da china boat anyway. that happened with my flux. i may be wrong but i don't think it has "sellers" like aliexpress so you don't have to worry about sellers scamming you, it would be banggood scamming you. and i don't really hear about that happening. in particular there was an era where they sold a lot of miyoo mini's because people were so thirsty for it and bought it anywhere it was in stock, and i didn't hear anything bad at that time. as always though risk is risk.
if they don't have sellers, why are there two different listings for the v90s at 29⬠and at 19�
sd card sizes or sumthin idk. maybe no sd card for all i know š¤·āāļø
ah well, we will see I guess
Mine has just been "handed over to last mile" via 4PX. Should have it this week.
if this is real I will buy waaaay to many V90S, for 20bucks man 
yeah that's kind of crazy.. that's notably cheaper than the local chinese price afaik šµāš«
this device genuinely has a niche when it's that much cheaper than everything else. hope they don't cancel orders or anything goofy
20 bucks for this is an incredible deal
IDK, it looks fishy, all Powkidddy devices on Banggood have 0 or 1 review and no history of store
this is wild
no way it's real
Less than 20usd to me with new user discount, I might just try it for lulz
I could use a new flashlight or whatever I will get instead
just ordered, couldnt say no at this price š
I hope they will refund if it's scam
What are the chances they'll send an OG v90 and they're doing it just to offload old stock
to be honest with that price I would still be happy xD
that's true, but still quite good for nes and mega drive and very pocketable. But tbqh I expect they will cancel my order. Banggood seems legit so I don't think it is scam but probably an error of their side.
I would not even be mad as I dont have the og v90 š
Wait.. there is no lid detection even? I am losing interest in this thing, if not already lost. That one might take the cake for me. The lack of other stuff I could live with but shouldn't a clamshell have the lid detection feature as one of the main features?
like the nintendo gameboy advance sp? š¤£
Never had one. I went from GBC to NGPC then DS Lite. I missed out on GBA entirely.
But we aren't really talking about old tech or trying to be authentic are we? š
thats fair. my point was that all these smaller clamshells are going after the sp design. and the og sp never had lid detection.
Yes and my point above? š This is 2025
Maybe not in PowKiddy World though... lol
i guess weād all love to see lid detection in the cheapest of handhelds. but alas, it shall not be.
I bought this thing for a mere 16⬠on Banggood, for that kind of money it's insane value, who cares about a lid detection
who you calling a whore?
lol
like, yeah it ain't the ultimate device, but at the price point I can totally see it being the new low budget thing you hand out to kids and shit
auto correct going wild 
$20? Yeah I'd buy it and not care about lid detection. Very true.
I saw it listed for $18 on Banggood. But never used that site. Is it one of those sites that could be a scam?
the latest cfw of the og V90 got rid of fs corruption using the power switch. honestly itās super cool to just switch it off. it also boots so fast, itās almost like waking it from sleep.
Who knows, never did so myself, but gambled myself on this, if it's truly as cheap there and I receive it without issue, I'm gonna order 3 more 
yeah i'll start breaking them for sport
i bought stuff from banggood
before. no issues so far.
banggood is dang good!? š I don't know This price seems too good to be true.
I thought more about handing a few out to my smaller nephews, with the A133P it's very much good enough for PS1 and below
do we know if they kept the v90 battery?
I have no clue how much the v90 even had, iirc the v90s is 3000mAh?
it's different
it was an easily replaceable nokia phone battery
thatās a shame
that's certainly an interesting feature, lol
it's not one of these easily swappable ones that looks like it goes into a nokia phone. it's got the wires and connector coming from it and it goes through the shell to the pcb
on the upside it still has it's own compartment and it doesn't sit against the soc or the underside of the pcb, there's some plastic there that really makes it it's own compartment.
it was pretty obvious what you meant by Nokia battery, but I guess that wouldn't be very welcome in 2025, given how those are far less than 3000mAh iirc
well there are similar batteries to the bl-5c with 3000 mAh. the hq510 for example. but who knows if they are still around in larger quantities. doesnāt really matter much.
19,59ā¬... I don't know what color to pick
I went with the white. I expect to play with it for a bit and then sell it to some unwitting guy for twice as much or more.
Is this too good to be true?? Has to be a mistake or a scam right?
yeah, I think they will cancel the orders, but let's see
They might have swapped the pricing with the OG V90.
What's the best OS / CFW going to be for this?
Mine has arrived
Interestingly, the box lists a black and white colorway?
Nearly identical in size to the Anbernic 35XXSP
Much quieter, membrane buttons on the V90S
Those are also the V2 Buttons on the Anbernic, so best case scenario for it
V90S on left, SP on right. L1/R1 are pretty quiet on the V90S, while the L2/R2 are veeery clicky
Grey model is very similar to the grey on the V10
got that slight brownish tint to the grey
from left to right: V90, GBA SP, V90S, Anbernic SP
OG vs new
Batocera based os installed by default
By default it's setup so a tap of the power button puts it to sleep, and then another tap wakes it right back to where it was. Long hold on the power button brings up the software shutdown menu which is nice.
How much you like it so far?
Well I haven't been able to play any games as of yet
Dpad looks like the V10 dpad, but we'll see how it performs once I get into a game
Comes with a Seapiy card predictably, so it'll need a better one.
Does it have the file structure of the ROM files on the card?
I only usually use a one card setup.
It does, however because it's batocera by default, it's ext4. So windows can't read it natively
Put it in my Linux notebook, it also won't let you paste files unless you open the roms folder as root
but all the folders are setup for games yes
Can it be done over wifi like I do for Rocknix and arkOS?
no wifi on this by default
not sure about dongles
Dpad seems pretty good. Very close to the V10 dpad, but a little lighter
You can hit diagonals if you want to, and it seems like there's not too many issues with false diagonals
Honestly feels like a pretty responsive Dpad, if a little light to the touch
Oh you donāt have a dongle, Iāll give it a go tomorrow when I get mine.
I have one
it didn't work with it
so I don't know if it's picky about which dongles will work
The dongle I have worked in all PK devices in the past so I think Iām covered.
Copy or rom file structure to a second SD card to see if it recognises it.
Does it have an in built file manager system?
here are the internals if anyone's curious
interesting the mobo's labelled "RGB133B"
there's like six different partitions on the SD card ngl
might be a bit more involved than a copy paste job
Is there a in built file manager tool? This would be an easy way of copying the file structure to the second card
I'll let you know once I put it back together
doesn't seem like it, no
ThePK V20 device with this chip, you would think that one would have the same software as this one. Is it online somewhere?
could you take a photo of the other side?
sure gimme a couple minutes
thank you, I'm curious if there's space for WIFI module
wow, this side is suprisingly empty, shame about no possibility to add internal wifi but probably it's pretty good for battery
It says BATOCERA.LINUX V42-dev as the OS version
not sure if that's a modified one or if it's just stock batocera
rubber membrane buttons is awesome
how is the hinge?
Hinge feels fine, though it only has one position it locks into
you can make it stay in a random non-locked position, but yeah there's only one notch for the screen to lock in to
how soft/hard are the membranes?
they're pretty soft, but clicky
The dpad is definitely on the light side
I could probably go for a stiffer dpad, but I know I like stiffer buttons in general
Everything feels a lot like the V10, except maybe like 10-20% softer
I saw they changed the price in bangood. Did they cancel any orders??
That listing was removed and the other two remain that are the same price as yesterday. Still cheaper than PK and AE.
I really do think the listing was a mistake.
Letās see if they honour it
Daaaamn the V10 buttons are almost an exact fit
Except they stick out pretty far
and the A button has the wrong tabs on the side so it only fits in sideways
they absolutely work though like this
the screen touches the buttons, but otherwise they feel fine
from what I can tell it's the same exact membranes from the V10, and I think the dpad is nearly a 1/1 clone of the V10 dpad
i look at v90s size, and it's the same as rg35xxsp, right?
^
^ here too
and with ~ 8 9 usd plus, you can buy a rg35xxsp with better quality build, wifi...
don't know why powkiddy release this device
love the form of v90 original, very pocketable
quieter buttons, better for quiet environments
build quality's pretty comparable to the Anbernic SP though, powkiddy's definitely gotten better with that
Why canāt other companies bring out devices too? Anbernic are far from perfect
lol banggood literally doubled the price
Two are still there but the third with the different picture that was cheap is gone, I think it was a mistake.
nah there were 3 listings before and there still are and my bookmark still works, just price changed
They must of put it back up, 2 hours ago it was gone.
Out of the favourites and out of my cart.
Just disappeared
Your right and itās back and itās more expensive than the other 2 in Australia
The fact it was completely removed and put back makes me think it was an error. See if they still honour it.
So far here's my thoughts
- Good controls, rubber membrane face buttons, much quieter than an Anbernic RG35XXSP. L1/R1 are microswitches, but pretty quiet. L2/R2 are different microswitches and are very clicky. Start/Select/Menu are all microswitches, clickiness similar to an Anbernic.
- Buttons are quite soft, not necessarily in a bad way. Dpad seems responsive and doesn't seem to have a lot of false diagonals. ABXY feel great, overall very reminiscent of a V10.
- Size almost identical to the RG35XXSP, maybe like 2-3% smaller. Weight very similar too, don't have scales but PK feels like 5% lighter maybe.
- Doesn't get too hot while playing intensive games, I guess because the battery isn't a heatsink and the CPU is on the underside of the board, facing towards you while playing.
- With stock OS, a quick power button press puts it into sleep mode, and another quick press puts you back into your game. Longer press brings up the software shutdown menu, rather than forcing off the console.
- The V90S's screen is honestly better than the RG35XXSP screen in my opinion. I don't think it's the same panel. The V90S screen is a lot brighter and more vibrant, things look clearer somehow
looks awesome with SNES UK buttons
Not suprised about the screen, 35xx screens are quite bad even compared to other/older Anbernic devices.
Is stock os thw same batocera as the v20? In ES menu, in resolution options, is it locked to 58hz?
In here?
I can't find any resolution options
Hmmm. Ahg, from memory I donr remember where it exactly was in batocera. I think it was somewhere in system settings.
yeah can't seem to find anything like that unfortunately
I will check later and let you know. I already ordered a unit, but the h36s ans v20 (running the a133p batocera) had that limit. But your versions seems an updated one.
oh wow its a lot bigger.
plumOS-V90S has been released.āØ
Please see the release notes for details.
https://github.com/game-de-it/plumOS-V90S/blob/main/README_EN.md
That was fast
Tbf without the hinge sensor, it's just a glorified 3.5" 4:3 handheld, the most common form factor
After a day of use I can say I'm happy with it. I knew what I was getting into with no wifi/bt/hinge sensor, that's all stuff I accepted. But honestly it really hasn't let me down in any other factor. Good controls, better screen than the Anbernic, good heat distribution, stock os completely usable. I think it's a good deal for what it is.
Just needa work out how to copy the OS onto a new SD card
Or find a new image to flash
Well look just above
I'm kinda digging the ES vibe honestly. I avoided batocera and Knulli cause I couldn't be fucked dealing with ext4 all the time but I have a Linux notebook now so it's no issue
So yeah plumOS is probably a good option for me now
Knulli is now using exfat
Curious about the heat distribution you mentioned. Is this actually better compared to other A133p devices?
Yeah trimui smart pro does a bunch of stuff with thermal pads and copper tape to move heat away from your hands.
Wait....the v90s doesn't even have a Hinge Sensor?
nope, cheapo cheapo, 20-30bucks device
well, the original SP didn't have one and for the price point it's fine
Wtf is the point of a Hinge device without a Hinge Mechanism.........
That is just pure stupidity
tell that to Nintendo
How are the Devs supposed to program "Lid Closure" without that Mechanism?
they won't
(Insert Meme "that's the neat part, they wont")
just press the button
I doubt it
well it had a headphone jack iirc
honestly this competes with the r36 and battlEXP, while having a more powerful SoC and a clam form factor, so why the fuck did people even expect something like that in the first place
Funny how people expect both too little and too much at the same time 
Took the OG V90 years to get cfw that allowed you to switch it off using the off switch without going through the menu. If you just switched it off without going through the menu first it could corrupt the SD card.
Now people are complaining about no hinge sensor.
We've come a long way.
no hinge sensor no problem for me š
my only problem will be no MuOS CFW š¦
but now is MuOS in beta on Brick/tsp so it can be in future on V90s
Dude look at the pen line at GREY š
My V90S preorder tracking hasn't moved in a week. :: sigh ::
My go to the party in Dubai for 3 days... now move to EU ... i hope :c)
People have been trained to be so picky by the people on YouTube. Just getting obsessed by the smallest things. In the end of the day these are toys built for kids. Put it all in perspective.
Which file do you download 1,2 or3?
All of them
The only other A133P device I have right now is the TrimUI smart pro, but I'd definitely say it's a lot better heatwise than that
Call it "retro", like the original GBA SP 
Though it's not too big a deal imo since the power button sleeps and wakes in stock os
And presumably in plumOS
its just weird, the 35xxSp, which roughly cost the same now...has the sensor
maybe this will just get cheaper with time, like the v10/rbg10x did
Tbf the Anbernic SP was a good $25 more expensive than the V90S on release
It's still that expensive on anbernic's website when a sale's not happening
$65 vs $40 for a brand new handheld. That's not even including tax or shipping. Anbernic charges both tax and shipping that usually add another $15-20 onto the price. Powkiddy charges neither
So $40 for a V90S vs $80-85 for the Anbernic if you're buying from their respective websites
im usa, they added $10 to our pricing because of the cheeto
still sucks, no sensor, or 3.5mm jack....or32 bit support
Has anyone gotten theirs yet? Mine was last seen in CA like a week ago ; ;
If it's like mine, that tracking is fake. Says it is in Cerritos but in reality it's still in-transit from China. A lot of the AliExpress "ships from the USA" use the same gimmick to generate a USPS tracking number well before the product is in the US.
Doing a sleep test while I'm out rn
Looking good so far, didn't lose a percent over the course of 40 minutes
Okay, that's kind of the vibe I was getting, honestly.
Just like the smart pro, thatās the positive of using this chip.
banggood just told me due to increased production costs iāll have to pay additional $21, or theyāll cancel my order.
ofc.
but i was expecting that to happen tbh.
Yeah it felt like it was an error
I didnāt get them in the end due to the cost seeming too good to be true.
im kinda relieved actually, because it was just gonna end up in a drawer immediately lol
Yep I agree, I had 3 in the cart to complete my colour collection. Yes I have a problem and Iām trying to stop š
what fuckers, got the same mail and told them to fuck off with their scam
order value was like $18-19 and they claim increased production cost of $21, don't make me laugh
Alright 4.5 hours on sleep, my battery went from 98% to 97%
So safe to say like 4-5% drain a day while on sleep
tbf all things considered itās still cheap even with that $21 surcharge.
and itās expensive enough for me to realize i neither want nor need it 
Still waiting for my Banggood mail, did you all order as "new" members ?
I did, so far I heard nothing from them, time to make some bets
https://fixupx.com/0_game_it/status/1929404667202842815?t=2gSvYHsSdSRQe1BKqm7bKOD4mw_ViVNEe66sT9CEels&s=19
So, this console already has a CFW???
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more like modded stock
Ah okay
So, same as the Xu Mini M
PlumOS there was also a mod of stock
I guess this guy really likes plums

Anyway
For the people that already got this console, how is the feel of the console? Better than the original V90?
apparently you can use usb dacs, at least plumos page description suggests so. Still a letdown
it would be $6 less than directly via Powkiddy yeah, but fuck that, I ain't supporting such scams
Still waiting for my email, but it's inevitable, I think everyone was expecting this to happen
I'll wait for it to drop price at AliExpress š
Any chance this works for V20?
is $35 a good price for this 
That's a good question.
It boots up as an OS, but it doesn't work perfectly, as the power supply will no longer turn off properly, the wifi is no longer available, and the speakers keeps getting weak noise.š
Well if it boots it just needs a few tweaks right? š
I'll be waiting for a cheap second hand RG35XXSP instead
v90s was $15 on banggood a few days ago
for $15, why not
Yeah they fucked up and are now charging people an extra $25 or their orders get cancelled
First install of plumOS failed š
Don't have energy to do another tonight, leaving it for tomorrow
The flash itself worked but something about me making a partition with the unallocated space broke the install
It just black screens on power on
doesnāt it auto expand on first boot?
I use the V90S as a sound source for a MIDI keyboard using pyxel.
It can be connected with a single USB-C cable, and a very simple and cute system is created.āØ
https://github.com/game-de-it/testrepo/releases/tag/pyxel_midi-keybord-20250522
Just got mine. I ordered the grey, the box says frey, but they sent the black
When you turn it on it vibrates (like the g350). Nice surprise
SO I have been testing a bit. This batocera version is better than the one on the h36s (which supposedly is the same as the one in the v20). Here the video mode dosnt have the screen locked at 58hz, this timne it's at 60hz. I have been playing RIdge Racer 2 PSP and it stables at 60fps (skipping bufer effects)
. Also the dpad is night and day compared to the xxsp (at least for me). The one on the v90s feels like a real dpad compared to teh xxsp ( I really couldn't stand the xxsp dpad, sorry for the hate xD)
(not saying that the one on the v90s is teh greatest dpad, just better than the clicky ones)
How to get price lower than on picture? 
going to banggood and getting scammed 
also you have a link to that Ali listing? probably ain't shipping to Germany, but just wanna check 
This is bangood listing š
damn, they jacked it up good 
The BG price was always going to be an error. Sometimes you have to know when something is too good to be true.
a lot of retailers just deliver the shit anyway tho
like yeah they correct it but as long as it ain't some massive mistake 
heck, some people even got full PCs that were 1000+bucks for 100 š
If you read the agreement when you sign into the app they have no reason to hold there price. We knew in the back of our heads it was incorrect or a scam. No need to get upset over it. It was going to be a miracle if the units were sent out.
Anyone know how long it usually takes to ge ta package straight from PowKiddy itself? I'm figuring it's going to be a couple of weeks, but I'm curious.
It doesn't no
It's designed to be used with 2 sd cards, but I'm only using one, so you have to make the partition yourself
I preordered and mine has been in shipping purgatory since May 24th.
You too huh?
Typically it's 10-14 days from powkiddy themselves
Good to know, thanks!
Bangbad
I paid $26 for tax and shipping with this additional $21 that makes it $47 US
Yeah itās in the instructions on the GitHub will get round to doing it today when it comes in the mail.
oh okay.
iirc i did stock firmware partition expansion on the 35xxsp and that worked as intended. i used gparted to rearrange and resize partitions on the sd card. what software did you use?
also used gparted
Oh yeah, I also got the "pay 21 bucka extra or gtfo email", well was worth a try š
So which portmaster titles can't i not play on these a133p devices again
any 32bit gamemaker game, shovel knight or some of the SteamWorld games.
instead of adding another partition i think i moved the roms partition to the right and then expanded it to make use of the remaining unused space of the sd.
there isn't a roms partition though
Just set it all up and the face buttons and d-pad are quiet, far better than the clicky anbernic SP devices Iāve owned.
well use whatever partition your roms are on?
There aren't any roms
That's why I have to create a partition for them
if you're using one SD card, it doesn't setup a place for them when you flash the OS image
and you have to create your own partition for roms
how strange is that?
Use the extra space to make a partition, then put roms and bios file in it, then put it in the PK. Then take it out and populate the two files.
I did it in 5 minutes
the act of making the new partition causes the sd to stop working
trying it for a third time now
Fat32
I did yes
Named it plumOS
Used all remaining space
I did all this before putting it in the console as it says in the instructions
I also did
Once itās in the machine, scan for new media/roms
alright well exfat worked
for whatever reason the first two attempts with fat32 didn't work
32gb sd card, so it should have been fine
who knows
do the rom console folders need to be named specifically, or is it like MuOS where you can just name em whatever you want
Read the instructions
Make a roms folder and a bios folder and it will populate when you boot the machine
what instructions are you reading
this is literally all the instructions I'm going off š¤£
you are doing plumOS
as you can see, not much to go off š
The second line has your answers
It literally says it right thereā¦.
"manually create the roms and bios folders" implies to me I need to manually create all the roms folders myself
Thatās right
It's pretty open to interpretation
And they will populate when you insert the card and turn it onā¦. As Iāve said I think 3 times now
No it isnāt
Iāve got a 3 year old with me at this time playing dinosaurs on my head and I still managed to read and understand the instructions given.
I did everything the instructions said, I don't know why we're arguing š
I might be just tired š“
There is nothing after "manually create the roms and bios folders", so I assumed that included all the seperate console folders, which is why I asked originally whether they needed to be named specifically.
Canāt change RA hotkeys in plumOS, going back to the stock card to see if thatās any better. Might just have to wait to a better CFW.
Oh damn really???
Yeah, I tried everything. It has an option to toggle auto setup hotkeys but it doesnāt seem to turn them off. Ive reset all my changes and just made a few changes in RA. Start and select to quit, turn off confirm quit, change RA theme.
how do you even launch RA itself on this OS
There is usually heaps of option I usually change but I donāt want to mess it up. Itās like Rocknix you arenāt meant to change RA settings.
Open a game and launch from there.
Ahh so you can't
Itās crap, bit like knulli
yeah that's annoying
I like full control, like arkOS. This will never get that but there are other CFWās that are better than this. PlumOS is designed for newcomers.
Testing out auto shutdown now to see if it works and if it saves the state to be loading into.
the overlays for gba are broken in this as well by the looks
Mine are all set up by default to be working.
Donāt change anything in RA to make changes to shaders, overlays etc
I haven't touched anything in RA yet
Iāll double check mine
this was the first thing I saw when I booted up a game
Yep your right itās slightly off, Iāll check the settings in the front end
Then save content directory overrides
Auto power down option doesnāt work as intended. All options just switch the screen to black like a screen saver. If you want to test yourself these settings are located in device settings.
Not a huge issue the power button just pops it in standby mode which doesnāt drain much battery
I really like this device way more than I ever liked anbernics SP devices. It just need a good CFW and it would be 
I'm still thinking about paying this additional $20 on banggood, is it worth it your opinion? š
Honestly I'd say yes
probably needs some better CFW but definitely useable right now
Great to have a clamshell with quiet face buttons
Has amazing sleep too
like 1% over 5 hours
Yes, I wasn't a fan of 35xxSP buttons and dpad š¦
It's also got a way better screen than the 35XXSP
and doesn't get as hot as the anbernic
cause the battery isn't a heatsink š
I think it was well worth the $65 AUD I paid on PK website. I like it infinitely better than the xxSPās Iāve owned. Those buttons were terrible IMO. If this gets minUI this will be the pocket HH of choice for me.
Good I'm not the only one, it was really strange, when everyone seemed to be so happy with xxSP and for me the buttons were terrible especially compared to original GBA SP, but also the screen wasn't great and it was getting really hot (and people were complaining about 40xxH which was never that warm)
I bought 4 and one 34xxSP and all of them sucked. Sold them all now. This machine is great Iāve tweaked it a bit and Iām happier than when I started. Iām new to plumOS which is pretty similar to knulli I think, pretty locked down for the tinkerer in me. I really want minUI as I donāt really want to rock an ugly dongle.
Still trying to figure out how to change hotkeys in retroarch without it changing them back to its default settings.
I hate this in Batocera š I also prefer ArkOS and the freedom it gives
Yep, I wish arkOS was on everything. So unfortunate how itās stuck to mainly old devices.
It's weird cause in stock OS, in the ES menu there is an option to autoconfigure RA hotkeys but it is disabled (and still resets the hotkey's once you exit RA). At least if you remap thr controller in ES you can set the FN button as thr hotkey enabler.
I messed with it and tried to reconfigure but it messed it all up. I donāt really want to try again and have stuff up everything Iāve done.
Is there any stock os image available to reflash in case we mess up the og config??
what was the original price?
19 EUR
I got the same email today, on one hand I hate when shops are solving their issues this way but on the other I kinda want to try it and the price is still very good xD
So you think I should just wait it out ?š
But I read it as in: you gotta pay 19 EUR plus 21 USD
nah I literally answered them to fuck off with their scam and refund
Yeah alright. Man 19 EUR was a really good price
yup, but its still cheaper than during pre-order period on their site
arguably yes, but why would anyone pay into this scam? just wait a few weeks and grab it for 30bucks on Ali
You can change the HotKey combinations in batocera.conf.
For more information, see the batocera wiki.āØ
https://wiki.batocera.org/start
Nice Iāll give that a go š
Why did they put the powkiddy emblem thingy towards the middle so much lol, its throwing off the look so much for me
this bothers me so much.
What bothers me more is the sticker was put on tilted.
that sweet sweet PowKiddy Quality Control 
to be honest the first thing I would do would be removing this sticker anyway
There's an indention underneath it.
I appreciate the fact you bought a keyboard to match your V90S.
Shows dedication.
Lol
You can always replace it with: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124044211738
I have mode set to display off 1m and extended mode set to suspend 1m under power management and this will suspend the console after 2 minutes the console is closed or left. This is the only config Iāve found to work so the suspend will work.
I think I might switch to PlumOS. The stock OS is kinda.. Powkiddy like
It's mostly fine, but audio channels seem to cut out on SNES and GB
PlumOS is just modified stock
it's basically the same
yeah, I read it was just Batocera with a coat of paint. I think I might hold out for something other than Batocera
Never been a fan of it
Itās just ok, canāt for life of me find the RWD line in the config file to set it to a hotkey.
Iāve done a heap of changes to the build of plumOS so far, so time consuming.
I hope MuOS can eventually be ported on here
Either MuOS, minUI, spruce, pakUI or any other CFW that lets you access retroarch properly.
is there a full review for the v90s yet?
Changed the retroarch config file to change all the hotkeys and I went into a game and they all went back to stock. That was time consuming and Iām not doing that anymore.
Without overanalysing a cheap Chinese made toy that is $60AUD, itās great. Just needs a good CFW for the tinkerers but if youāre a newcomer and just wants to play games itās great.
To change the hotkeys if they are after to different config or just want to be able to have a rewind hotkey available. You can change the hotkey settings and save them to a core override. This will save them just for that core so you will have to do it for every core. If you donāt have that many systems on you PK it wonāt take that long and you will have the hotkey setup that you are accustomed to.
I'm not sure that's quite fair 
Yeah I don't agree with that either š
I've decided to buy several devices based on those 30 minute videos alone.
Putting a minimal amount of research in should be the default. Even if you just watch the end summary of a full review.
I've noticed jank devices tend to get "first looks" and "unboxings" and no review when the reviewer knows it's jank.
With this device it's probably just new though.
Oh yeah totally, I've only seen like 4 or 5 people in hre get theirs so it's still very early days
Some people concentrate on the negatives instead of just enjoying themselves. Most of us here are pretty good and just have fun and help each other. Nothing is ever going to be perfect.
Iāve set up all the hotkeys and turned off confirm to quit with a heap of other small setting changes and Iām really enjoying this device.
I have one of these coming from China
I like that the screen goes off in one minute and then one minute later the machine goes in stand-by mode. This chip the stand-by mode is so much better than the other cheap flip models. I prefer this to the shut down method offer from anbernic stock and muOS. This feels like Iām using an actual GBA SP more than the other SP models Iāve tried so far.
plumOS-V90S v0.2 has been released.āØ
We have also included instructions on how to update from v0.1 to v0.2 without having to create a new SD card.
https://github.com/game-de-it/plumOS-V90S/releases/tag/plumOS-V90S_v0.2
If I do the fix_roms method, where do you put the fix_roms file?
I just put on the root is that right?
For the sake of convenience, I have placed it in the roms/fix_roms location.
Finally, use od-commander to copy the fix_roms file to the system/service directory.
I feel like a harder dpad membraine would be better. Still preffer it much more than the 35xxsp. Also, I am really enjoying how well it plays ridge racer psp. PlumOS I basivally the same, but with some mire options and it feels a bit more stable. (twice I got some ghost inputs in ES on stock OS)
yeah I had the same thought, the dpad membrane is super light
although it's identical to one from a V10 and several other devices afaik
so you could probably swap it out for a harder one
Is it easy to open?? Can you swap buttons without unplugging the screen connector?
š this is somebody who's opened enough devices to know that screen connectors are brittle sometimes.
Yeah, once you mess up once you know the deal. I was able to sawp the xxsp buttons without unplugging it, but more often than not you have to.
That sinking feeling when your screen connector breaks when you just wanted new buttons.
I opened mine up to fix my X button. You can do it without removing the screen connection by tilting the motherboard up. The buttons are a new design. Same round size as the RGB30, but the tabs are rotated 90 degrees and shorter in the 90S.
Yeah you can easily swap buttons without removing the ribbon cable
Battery's a bit awkward to get back in, but it's fine
No clips around it, just 4 PH1 screws
I mean the ribbon's not hard to unplug/put back in either tbf
But yuou don't need to if you don't wanna
^ Internal pictures up here if you're curious
Has anyone found a wifi dongle that works with this device yet? The one that has worked with all my other devices doesnāt seem to work with this one for some reason.
both of mine don't work :/
$31 a good price for this?
Definitely
Where are you seeing $31? I'm currently in the batch of hopefuls waiting to get hit with the Banggood panhandle after their inventory mishap 
Just local deals. Iām in asia.
it's the official price in China (no card)
Nice Iāll take 1 color each 
Aded a harder membraine (a cutted down one from the k36s) and it does the job. 
The buttons are silicon not like anbernic?
It"s not the clicky thing on the board that the sp uses. Tipical rubber membraines, but a bit too soft.
With this OS version upgrade, the USB-DAC noise has been completely removed, and the sound is now played at perfect pitch.
You will be able to see the amazing sound when you listen to it with your earphones.āØ
Both of mine donāt work either, I wonder if itās the software that is stopping it from working properly. One of the dongles Iāve got works in every device Iāve owned so far. Seems unusual.
Please check the manual for WiFi dongles that have been confirmed to work.
https://github.com/game-de-it/plumOS-V90S/blob/main/README_EN.md
Iāll check mine when I get home, Iām pretty sure I have one like this
Yep, I donāt have that one. Can get it from officeworks for $37