#GameMT E6 Max

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finite haven
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Yeah that's right

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Throw an A75/76 core or two in there and the PS2 ver should run close to full speed

viscid gorge
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a733 version eventually lol

finite haven
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PowerVR gpu though

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BXM-4-64 MC1

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Not sure how it'd stack up against the Mali G57

compact wedge
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following just to get updated examples of this chips performance. not really eying this specifically, more interested in the rgb50 for the screen cuz the only 3:2 device i have rn sucks

grizzled reef
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Same with BG Dark Alliance which is crazy as its normally so hard to emulate (It has issues even on RP5 )

viscid gorge
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there are a lot of android games on my e6 plus that i won't bother putting on this device
definitely will add DQB, Nuclear Throne, Death Road to Canada, and Slay the Spire... maybe the Risk of Rain og port

viscid gorge
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Diet Melee, XIII, Worms 3d, and Prince of Persia will be on the test list next. I did Pikmin already for jdewitz. i'll record the first boss fight later

turbid zodiac
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kek_leo i dont know why but i feel e6max will run even better ps2 MW2005 than t618, already wasted 2 days and total do almost stable 20fps lock x1, have a cpu bottleneck issues -_- (graphics defoult optimised still)

viscid gorge
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the only version of Most Wanted 2005 and Underground 2 that are playable on t618 are the gamecube versions.

turbid zodiac
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g.c working yes, but it too easy

viscid gorge
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I don't trust either on this because as gamma said, the gpu isn't that great. it might be running underspec due to the 5.x BSP kernel

turbid zodiac
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NetherSX2 Experimental even better btw

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today installed, and finaly a bit understand what game need to run well on low-end chipset

turbid zodiac
viscid gorge
turbid zodiac
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maybe, maybe ...

viscid gorge
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I've managed to make gpu issues slightly more invisible by toggling VBI Skip.

turbid zodiac
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i hope he find a way to make it faster

viscid gorge
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basically keeps low fps from triggering stuttered audio. that way if something dips from 30 to 28 or from 50 to 45, gameplay still feels smooth

mossy heath
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well I've OC'd the unit slightly via the DTB

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lets see if it actually is taking effect or not

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before:

generic_arm64:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq # cat policy0/scaling_available_frequencies
408000 672000 792000 936000 1032000 1128000 1224000 1320000 1416000

generic_arm64:/sys/class/devfreq/1800000.gpu # cat cur_freq
744000000

after:

generic_arm64:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq # cat policy0/scaling_available_frequencies
408000 672000 792000 936000 1032000 1128000 1224000 1320000 1416000 1500000

generic_arm64:/sys/class/devfreq/1800000.gpu # cat cur_freq
792000000
mossy heath
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this device doesn't have bluetooth?

viscid gorge
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nope. sure doesn't. that was something sinyorksu mentioned earlier on.

mossy heath
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ah

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does anyone know what the mem speed should be on this?

viscid gorge
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a 2.4ghz mouse/keyboard is okay if clunky

mossy heath
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I'm just poking about, trying to see if there is some bandwidth being starved between gpu/cpu

turbid zodiac
mossy heath
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e.g on the t618, it's typically 1866mhz

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I suspect I could push 850mhz on GPU if it's similar to the rk3566's mali-g52

turbid zodiac
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WOW

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that already solid for ''slight''

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@mossy heath

mossy heath
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was there pictures of the mobo for this unit with the ram chip visible?

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so we can grab the model number and verify

turbid zodiac
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why they dont post at least datasheet ... for this a527 bruh

viscid gorge
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oh so this is running nerfed

turbid zodiac
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yup

turbid zodiac
viscid gorge
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for whatever reason, i can't transfer files via usb cable after the flash to basic android. might be fine in linux, but windows.... nope

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i'll bug sinyorksu about it after i send him some controller configs later. glad he fixed volume

mossy heath
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generic_arm64:/sys/class/devfreq/1800000.gpu # cat cur_freq
850000000

generic_arm64:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq # cat policy0/scaling_available_frequencies
408000 672000 792000 936000 1032000 1128000 1224000 1320000 1416000 1500000 1584000

generic_arm64:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq # cat policy0/scaling_cur_freq
1584000
viscid gorge
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#mod-it-till-it-breaks

mossy heath
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speedrun: making my e6max toast

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I'm using the same voltage though, it seems to be holding up

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I've not OV/UV yet

turbid zodiac
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#push-to-the-limit

mossy heath
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I actually think 850mhz is supposed to be the GPU base clock speed btw

turbid zodiac
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like t618 yeh

viscid gorge
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can you churn out another basic android distro with these changes?

turbid zodiac
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somone sayed it can even 950mhz (G57) without oc, so chip is not weak that much could be, if vendor not limit it

mossy heath
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yeah that's doable

viscid gorge
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i'll mirror-host it

mossy heath
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it'd just be flashing over stock using fastboot, would require bootloader unlock and flashing vendor_boot

turbid zodiac
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sound easy

viscid gorge
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we have the phoenix flashing tool too. does a live update

mossy heath
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experimental 850mhz OC.

ensure bootloader is unlocked first (enable dev settings, unlock bootloader, adb reboot bootloader, fastboot oem unlock, fastboot reboot)
then flash using fastboot (adb reboot fastboot, fastboot flash vendor_boot vendor_boot.img.signed)

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there may be some other changes for GammaOS but should still work with stock

turbid zodiac
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wonder if cpu possible to oc too

mossy heath
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yes I did it

turbid zodiac
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benchmarked?

mossy heath
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stock had this at 744mhz

mossy heath
turbid zodiac
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good

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yeh, all phones with MC1 has 850mhz

mossy heath
turbid zodiac
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yikes

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13% gain

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some of G57-MP2 use 950mhz (its a bit diferent chip) but architecture the same

mossy heath
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will try that

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currently capped to 2ghz on stock

turbid zodiac
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150mhz will change everything ...

mossy heath
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nope, too unstable, system won't boot

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ok 2.1ghz seems better

turbid zodiac
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or just stock voltage

viscid gorge
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dietmelee = crash. can't enter 1p mode

mossy heath
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would not recommend overclocking CPU, I think I'm hitting thermal throttling, getting lower results than stock

viscid gorge
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i figured that would happen, especially with no good heatsink/spreader-plate, vent, or microfan

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22nm definitely keeps your hands warm. tablets usually have ~8in. of aluminum to manage the heat distro

mossy heath
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anyway will take a further look later, I really want to understand the memory clock a bit better

finite haven
viscid gorge
finite haven
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Ayy nice GPU overclock

finite haven
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The ones that run at 1.4ghz by default

viscid gorge
finite haven
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If not then tbh GPU/memory overclock will be the only other option for perfmaxxing

mossy heath
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We'll probably benefit from undervolting

finite haven
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Leaving the big cores at 2ghz

finite haven
mossy heath
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I could try that yes

viscid gorge
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1.4/2 seems to be the best setting without raspberry pi heatsinks

finite haven
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Could do 2.0/1.5 with little thermal compromise

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Maybe 2.1/1.5 with undervolting and some generousity

viscid gorge
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there -are- heatvents, so it to might work

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oh man. lego star wars is -great-. mostly playable even. i'll record something later. off to work now

mossy heath
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@viscid gorge could you try Geekbench and let me know how your scores look for CPU?

finite haven
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Tbh Gamma Core is what this device yearns for

turbid zodiac
finite haven
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Midnight Club 3 PSP should run decent on this

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Runs at ~30-45fps on the TSP

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It's a 222mhz game but a heavier one at that, TSP seems to be GPU bottlenecked with that one

turbid zodiac
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which utilize max gpu frequency 333mhz

finite haven
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Midnight Club 3 runs at 222mhz

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Was released before 2007

turbid zodiac
unkempt pike
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I believe it was @viscid gorge who noticed that the physical connection to the RAM is only half of what it could be.

misty dawn
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hey Gamma what's the question on the RAM?

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i'm fairly certain there is 1x 200BGA LPDDR4 (or 4x) chip on the board

turbid zodiac
misty dawn
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should be limited by the speed of the memory controller, which is:

mossy heath
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cheers guys

turbid zodiac
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welcome back

mossy heath
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yeah I just wanted to know what speed the controller freq runs at, and the rated speed for the ddr module

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so 1.2ghz

mossy heath
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not the fastest

turbid zodiac
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it cant be 1200, dont believe in that low ... 1600 at least

misty dawn
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i'm surprised it's that high

turbid zodiac
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why there no scripts to check 😦

mossy heath
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this is not t618 level, nowhere near, sorry to burst your bubble

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dmc freq is not exposed in /sys either so it's not clearly visible, probably some mem training done in SPL

turbid zodiac
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Eh, maybe ... maybe

misty dawn
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i actually wouldn't be surprised if it's running at 1066 just out of laziness

turbid zodiac
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there should be a solution how to check it

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😢

mossy heath
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Blast from the past, the x28 is the only t618 I worked with that only did 1024mhz mem speed, while the others did 1866mhz. 😅

turbid zodiac
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@mossy heath Houston, we have a problem

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It can be even lpddr3

misty dawn
turbid zodiac
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that action π (another a527 console)

mossy heath
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generic_arm64:/sys/devices/platform/soc@3000000/1800000.gpu/devfreq/1800000.gpu # cat cur_freq
900000000

generic_arm64:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy4 # cat scaling_cur_freq
2100000

YOLO

turbid zodiac
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O_O 900mhz

turbid zodiac
turbid zodiac
misty dawn
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also 4GB limit 😢

turbid zodiac
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when other lpddr4x

mossy heath
turbid zodiac
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so gpu like minimum 30% slower to T618 (1820MHZ) avg 40% (2002MHZ)

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😲 why that big gap

misty dawn
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different class of chip

turbid zodiac
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mine

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why that low 🤨 (gamma os)

mossy heath
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CPU is quite toasty

finite haven
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22nm moment

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Hopefully that undervolt helped with throttling

mossy heath
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getting some stability issues with UV on the CPU :/

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random reboots

finite haven
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Damn

turbid zodiac
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how much possible get more with overclock?

mossy heath
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You're comparing against a t618, that's much more powerful. No amount of overclock will ever reach that level.

turbid zodiac
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no no, im not comparing ... im asking how much i can get more on my T618 (not enough for ps2 heavy)

mossy heath
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t618 cannot be overclocked

turbid zodiac
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gpu and cpu locked?

mossy heath
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yes

turbid zodiac
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damn

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ram?

mossy heath
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nothing my friend

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unisoc is locked down

turbid zodiac
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😦 sad

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u tried 950mhz already? 😀 (what if 1ghz would be stable💀 )

mossy heath
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no, I am done with overclocking now

turbid zodiac
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so atm u trying to do stable uv

mossy heath
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I'm bored now, going back to GammaOS development 🙂

turbid zodiac
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condition atm - 20% difference (i hope real to do 10-15) vs T610 in gpu performance, pretty solid
also interesting limits for ram

turbid zodiac
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@mossy heath btw remembered what app can see ram frequency in real time, SCENE (root)

viscid gorge
turbid zodiac
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@mossy heath just realized console turn off with 66%, if turn it on after minute it will down again (so its definitely battery low) , when plug charger it start from 66% to 100% could be gamma glitch? tried unplag battery for 10m already, still

daring valley
viscid gorge
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reminds me of amlogic/hardkernel bs

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same happened to the OGU. it could perform better, but it meant literally melting the soc

viscid gorge
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Conflict: Desert Storm, Judge Dredd, and Worms 3d are all decenlty playable:
#1340711956495077497 message
V-Rally 3 and XIII also run pretty well

mossy heath
turbid zodiac
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Wow

turbid zodiac
turbid zodiac
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hm 🤨 i just unplug battery for 8hours, and it still show 66% when turn on, but it doesnt off, already 3 times run geekbench 6, and now wild life extreme stress test (59% atm) seems like glitch gone (RG405 GammaOS)

turbid zodiac
turbid zodiac
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well, well, well (fan max mode)

viscid gorge
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This thing is a tweakzilla

gaunt narwhal
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Klonoa wii runs slow but runs

turbid zodiac
gaunt narwhal
turbid zodiac
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hope stable 30 fps after overclock would be creeperhaha

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u running gamma already?

finite haven
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T618 barely manages that

finite haven
turbid zodiac
finite haven
turbid zodiac
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t618 do 40-45 mine

finite haven
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Huh

turbid zodiac
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settings is everything for low end devices ''mtk'' (defoult just on good devices work fine)

finite haven
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A527 would be lucky to manage 25. NFSMW is on the higher end of GCN fwiw

turbid zodiac
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sceptic

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lets hope

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interesting is it possible to do 1ghz on 527, or not bc will overheat kek 925mhz already more than i predict, and even cpu goes up insane too (but i want to know limits)

cloud mango
turbid zodiac
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@finite haven fast basic "now" settings, dont remember full what i put before, so its not max stable as can be on that t618
RG405V

viscid gorge
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I have an rg405v. with the fan off, it averages 21.4fps in nfs:mw(pal) for gamecube. with the fan on, it averages ~22-23fps.

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there's no way you're going to make the a527 push 30fps without melting it.

turbid zodiac
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Avg 25-30 (ofc with 1% drops to 20) in chase, but i remember better results on my tablet some years ago (need to test some settings)
RG405V, mmjr2 vbi

turbid zodiac
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mmjr2 (vbi) also seems still lose (HOW?) to port ishiiruka (the real v6) in performance and stability (first impressions, could be wrong)
upd: just confirmed, it much and much better

turbid zodiac
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ishiiruka V6 / career start
RG405V (T618) Gamma OS

viscid gorge
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Ignore the last link I posted. Sinyorksu being dumb

gaunt narwhal
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Ok

viscid gorge
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okay upload of 1.09(clean) is going back up.

viscid gorge
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version 1.12 of the clean firmware is up now. you should be able to flash it over your current android as a live update

turbid zodiac
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@mossy heath u done with it, or just on pause? (when 1ghz?))

fresh karma
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@viscid gorge Could you please send the link to v.1.12?

flat shadow
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Some footage of the E6 Max running yesterdays released Delta Force Mobile! It's a very interesting game featuring a 24 vs 24 pvp warfare mode ("We've got battlefield at home") with big maps and vehicles. On top of that it features an extraction shooter mode called "Operations" ("We've got Escape from tarkov at home"). The mobile version of the game just released and is still buggy and not entirely optimised. So keep in mind when reviewing the E6 Max's performance here.
I have been playing Delta Force on pc lately and having an absolute blast! Can absolutely recommend if you enjoy extraction/battle royale shooters or battlefield!
Ps. If anyone feels like doing some raids in Delta Force, add me in-game @ MchineGunDemma
https://youtu.be/UcV4Gzumgxs

E6 Max | Android 13 | Delta Force Mobile (24 vs 24 Warfare)

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viscid gorge
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the fact that this consumes 1w when idle and 9w when at max tilt is why i turn it off when i'm not actively using it these days.

grave hill
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Gamma needs to save us with that passive MUNCHING

viscid gorge
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yeah idle/max power draw is almost rg552 bad

grave hill
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YIKES

viscid gorge
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likewise, the screen is pretty great and the buttons/body feel good in the hands. it's a neat device

flat shadow
mossy heath
turbid zodiac
turbid zodiac
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T612, DXVK: 1.7.2, Winlator10 dev3, Vortek, gpu A527 should be around with overclock (somone try!) im atm run it on T618

viscid gorge
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why are you posting this in e6max chat?

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#1343847284517113856

daring valley
viscid gorge
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i'm using it. 1.12p is much better

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unit's been asleep for a few days and not moving much percent-wise.

flat shadow
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Just updated today, had some trouble applying the update at first.

finite haven
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Can drop as low as 15 at times

turbid zodiac
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didnt installed on 406 yet, trying to configurate ps2 version :/

viscid gorge
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@daring valley add some cpu governor options

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running cpu-x, it looks like all cores idle at 408mhz. i wonder if it can go lower

finite haven
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From other allwinner chips (A33, S3) I've tested they can go down as low as 60mhz

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The A133P can only go down to 408mhz

turbid zodiac
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why that high?

viscid gorge
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i guess the a527 and a523 inherits the 408mhz low spot

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that's why we get such a large passive drain

turbid zodiac
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so the one solution is turning off, sad

viscid gorge
turbid zodiac
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wow a527 sheet poggers

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isnt Gamma confirm that?

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i only remember he sayed t618 X28 on ddr3(pretty-sure) wont goes above 1028* but they mark it like ddr4x (1866 should be) this why x28 not perform like others

viscid gorge
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i read through chat earlier while messing around in adb. its all there

turbid zodiac
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🤔

viscid gorge
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just an interesting find before i head off to work.

glass matrix
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Has anyone tried to use it for cloud based gaming yet? Love the stick locations and thought it would nice if so.

flat shadow
glass matrix
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I gotcha. Most of these “budget” handhelds you can use the built in controller due to some reason. I got the x28 because I liked the sleek look and I do a bunch of cloud gaming and I have to pair a controller to it to use it that way.

cloud mango
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🎉

glass matrix
# cloud mango

Try some ge force now and let me know before I buy one lol 😂

cloud mango
glass matrix
cloud mango
fresh karma
karmic oriole
glass matrix
# fresh karma

Could you see if it works with cloud based gaming? Like the controls actually work.

cloud mango
cloud mango
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It's actually looks more like grey color, than blackaaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

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Dpad is greatly improved, compared to previous e6plus, and overall build quality is much better👍

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Imho, in their next consoles they need to get rid of that wide black border on screen, to make it look more premium, like on RP5 frog_stubbs

weary dust
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Can someone test Tekken Tag 1 and killer instinct in mame?

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I like the mini steam deck vibe.

viscid gorge
cloud mango
viscid gorge
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go ahead and flash 1.12p if you haven't already

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how does everyone feel about the panel? it's quite crisp for just being a laminated TFT or whatever

cloud mango
cloud mango
cloud mango
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Updated to v1.12, all good👍

viscid gorge
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excellent

cloud mango
glass matrix
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I really hope someone try’s out and sees if I can play cloud based games via the handheld controls. Really want to get this but don’t want to get it and be wrong.

glass matrix
humble axle
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Never seen that game before

grizzled reef
cloud mango
grizzled reef
grizzled reef
glass matrix
cloud mango
turbid zodiac
cloud mango
gaunt narwhal
viscid gorge
gaunt narwhal
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can it be flashed using local update? or only with phoenixsuit

cloud mango
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It's weird, but it works 😅

viscid gorge
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yep! i got the same

flat shadow
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same here!

carmine sage
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aaaah so tempted to get one to replace my x55, the price and the lack of linux is still holding me back 💀

viscid gorge
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linux is coming now that the helegaly is in several people's hands

carmine sage
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now what's holding me back? 😩

viscid gorge
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Honestly, i was happy with just the e6plus, but i got a max to support sinyorksu

snow garden
viscid gorge
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is he making a handheld?

cloud mango
viscid gorge
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it'll be nice to see what linux firmware comes of his efforts

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Can comfirm RB6 Smol and Nuclear Throne both take good adventage of the screenmapper. I really want to see how well Pascal's Wager plays

cloud mango
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Not tried it yet in person😅

viscid gorge
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oof

gaunt narwhal
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Linux is available?

cloud mango
viscid gorge
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time to test DS again after acquiring an arm64/8a apk

unkempt pike
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Helegaly will be the name of my next cat

viscid gorge
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Finally got DS running and it's GLORIOUS

snow garden
cloud mango
viscid gorge
humble axle
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People really like MK7 huh

viscid gorge
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5: double-dash and 6:wii both had huge mapping communities as well. Double-dash plus has like 80 maps?

viscid gorge
viscid gorge
carmine sage
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aaaah, with linux coming for it as well it's increasingly hard to hold off on buying one lol
powkiddy rgb50 is a mystery, helegaly/kinhank k56/k560 is more expensive, anbernic is still married to the H700

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I didn't find the listing from your store, maybe you're not shipping to brazil?

turbid zodiac
carmine sage
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yeah, it's very cute but I'm not interested on a 4:3 rn
the one that kinhank bought from them, k56, is more what I'm looking for

turbid zodiac
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just buy used 505

carmine sage
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but very few stores are shipping to brazil and it's quite a bit more expensive

carmine sage
turbid zodiac
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so u just want test new soc

carmine sage
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no, I'm looking for a stronger widescreen linux device to replace the x55 I've been using

turbid zodiac
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oh

carmine sage
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that's why I'm drooling over this and the supposedly upcoming rgb50

carmine sage
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alright, wish me luck

humble axle
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What the hell

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That's way more than I remember it going for

carmine sage
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the rest are import taxes

viscid gorge
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Yeah, this is a phone+controller market

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Basically, a pixel 3 and a controller will cost the same as thiis due to tariffs

carmine sage
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haven't seen anyone testing streaming like artemis and pxplay on this, with this wifi 6 it should be a great streaming device

daring valley
glass matrix
exotic yew
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My E6 MAX arrived! Here's a comparsion to a pixel 3 with BSP-D8, and my trimui smart pro

carmine sage
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and I'm still not sure which color I like the most 😍

lofty hatch
carmine sage
lofty hatch
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I tried to get it from AliExpress

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The seller never shipped it. This was before the tariffs

carmine sage
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I've bought it from 2 Aliexpress stores, both swore they'll eventually deliver
My plan is to either sell the other or to cancel one when the other store ships

lofty hatch
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The seller gave me a bogus usps tracking number

carmine sage
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oof

lofty hatch
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It never went to customs.

carmine sage
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it'd be really sad if they did this, when buying from brazil the taxes are paid in full to Aliexpress, so I'd lose that money

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where did you get it from after all?

lofty hatch
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I screwed up because I should’ve looked up when store was established. I don’t have one. I tried before the tariffs.

carmine sage
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oh we've had tariffs here for a while now, it's not new unfortunately

lofty hatch
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They had stopped shipping from China at one point.

carmine sage
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many Aliexpress stores won't ship here even after tariffs stuff got sorted out btw, so maybe you can expect that as well

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for example, @daring valley 's store says it won't ship as well
I think it's all taking a while to get sorted out but everything should work eventually 🙂

turbid zodiac
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geekbench6 (cpu/vulcan/opengl)

daring valley
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It is estimated that there will be a large amount of stock on the 20th of this month. And a Bluetooth version has been added.

olive pagoda
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USA market be like

carmine sage
daring valley
carmine sage
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at least when tax is paid in Aliexpress it doesn't get stuck in customs hell and arrives fairly quickly, I think about it as... expensive shipping kek

cloud mango
finite haven
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Genshit

grave hill
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legalized underage gambling

cloud mango
turbid zodiac
cloud mango
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Finally people got 70$ console to play Genshin! doggylol

cloud mango
modest shadow
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Would've tried ZZZ; that game brought my S21+ to my knees!

carmine sage
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I've been seeing more stores with stock lately, the one I've bought just shipped

feral dome
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Can this run Mario Sunshine

modest shadow
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Probably not, but I'm not sure

humble axle
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Not a chance in hell

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This could potentially do very light GCN, but Sunshine doesn't fall under that

feral dome
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Zang

humble axle
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Feel like for Sunshine, you might be looking at the RG406V/H, at minimum

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The tech just hasn't come far enough for GCN to be playable at this price point just yet

cloud mango
feral dome
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Would the gkd little be able to instead

humble axle
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I think it's the same chipset, so no

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Plus, we've gotten nothing but radio silence on the GKD Little since its initial announcement

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Hard to say whether or not it'll even come out

viscid gorge
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comparative rules of thumb:

  • if t618 devices can't or struggles to run something, the a527 will not run it
  • if the rk3566 struggled running it, it will run fine
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So if you're like "I really like Volleball Spikers on GCN but it doesn't run well on my rg505..." NO, it will not work on the e6max.

finite haven
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Better off buying a used SD855 phone and mating it to a telescopic controller if for whatever reason you wanted to play that garbage

humble axle
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I think Cobalt might secretly harbour a slight dislike for Genshin Impact, you guys

feral dome
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^~^ it's a childhood classic

slate jay
broken summit
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Gacha games are a plague upon the mobile gaming market

modest shadow
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Felt

daring valley
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CAN GO ORDER IT NOW! ONLY FEW STOCK

cloud mango
viscid gorge
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bless sinyorksu and his microbatches lol

carmine sage
snow garden
carmine sage
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I'd like to share his store in brazilian discord servers though, I'm a mod in one, it's good to list the official sources 🙂

cloud mango
astral pagoda
carmine sage
astral pagoda
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Anything else for around $100 that's better ?

carmine sage
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like at least one of anbernic's t820? like the rg556?

glass matrix
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Anyone try Xbox game pass with it? And does it connect to a monitor?

turbid zodiac
viscid gorge
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my only other suggestion would be find a used 8th gen laptop for cheap or a phone+controller

carmine sage
carmine sage
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btw, isn't it time for this to be moved to #1345623875572072518 ?

viscid gorge
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yeah, @abstract trout this is released and in the public. it needs to be moved, even if it's just being distro'd in microbatches