Retroid Pocket Classic

[river grove]

yeah i mean, im probably still just gonna use discord whenever i play with friends lol

[robust granite]

absolutely.

[river grove]

but i do have a capture card if i wanted to screenshare

and i know most people probably dont lol

[robust granite]

the screen sharing is pretty pointless imho

[river grove]

i think its good to have but the framerate looked pretty shit lol

[robust granite]

and anyone that wants to, prob would be running a capture device for it.

[river grove]

yeah

[robust granite]

is discord on PS5?

ah googled it, apparently it is? so only the switch wont have access to a universal voice chat lol

wait....

I could....run discord on the classic......

[brittle tiger]

To be fair, it apparently (at least for the first party games they showed it with) only works with accounts you’re friends with.

The likely CoD port’s are gonna go crazy though.

[river grove]

yeah i mean the people who voicechat in nintendo games use discord rn and are probably going to keep using it. nobody uses nintendo's app lol

[robust granite]

I forgot they had an app.

oh yeah if Im pulling out my phone to use chat....Im using discord....lol

or....hear me out and dont flame me for it....

Xbox chat lol

[polar kiln]

Gray thick bezels is disappointing.

[eager rain]

yeah it's a shame you're stuck with them if you want 6 face buttons

but the colourful variants with the black bezel look good

[floral current]

Idk

Bezels add character imo

Like a nice picture frame

I usually prefer colored bezels anyway

[polar kiln]

Because the aspect ratio is tall I would have liked to play 4:3 and 3:2 games with black bezels blended in

[floral current]

I like bezels unless they’re butt ugly like the RP mini

[polar kiln]

It's a shame as the mock up black retro 6 would have been the perfect color for me

Sega and Nintendo fusion

[twin shale]

I genuinely

Have never cared about bezels

[floral current]

Yeah a bezel has to be bad for me to care

[twin shale]

I can't think of a person in real life I've met ever talk about bezels

[polar kiln]

I can't believe how cheap this is almost impulse purchase worthy

I don't have a vertical and this would have been my first ever vertical for my collection

[floral current]

Vertical supremacy

I almost never buy horizontal handhelds

They feel too phone-y

[polar kiln]

Will see how Russ review pans out

Maybe tempted to buy it

[summer marsh]

to be fair we're all fucking nerds here

[polar kiln]

I only own a RG40xxh and RG28xx

Then Ally X

I might get this and sell my RG40xxh and RG28xx

Keep all my 2D retro gaming on this device only

[robust granite]

buy 2 units, be careful and transplant a black bezel onto the grey unit?

[robust granite]

I was so close togetting a 40xxh bcz it looked so clean and near perfect.

but then this came along lol

[ornate sail]

How is the GPU, can it run decent shaders (as with CRT masks) ?

[modest mantle]

Lol. Know you guys are well past it. But this sums up the Internet in a nutshell

[polar kiln]

One great thing about this is going to be playing a ton of 2D games from PS2 emulator

[eager rain]

I like the colored bezels on my 406v because it's a 4:3 screen

I don't love the 'double bezel' effect of mixing visible bezel with black bars

[floral current]

I mean there’s no ratio that’s gonna be perfect for every system

Closest we have is 3:2

[late rock]

3:2 and 5:7

[floral current]

https://tenor.com/view/there-can-be-only-one-asdfmovie-asdfmovie8-gif-15470919007303940376

[eager rain]

4:3 is perfect for every system that matters

with a bezel and shader for GBC and GBA

[late rock]

5:7 is perfect for 3ds, maximal coverage of both screens

[wild beacon]

say it louder for the people in the back

https://youtu.be/OEd_NeZLsZo?si=rjj82XV7j6XKDEcQ

[gaunt cargo]

Thanks Blob!

[robust granite]

"lets focus on systems that generally just dont have a joystick. so switch here..."

[warm comet]

If you don't test switch the audience will scream at you to test switch lol

[robust granite]

its just funny that its the first line right after saying the line about focusing on non joystick based systems lol

[nova skiff]

well that audience should switch to another handheld then

[warm comet]

No, all handhelds must be perfect for every different user's use case all at the same time.

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-adventure-time-lemongrab-freakout-armflail-gif-5515437

[nova skiff]

damn you're right why didn't I think of that

[late rock]

I could see myself playing some switch platformers on this tbh, there's a lot of 2d indies in the switch catalog

[robust granite]

the aspect ratio of 16:9 on that screen tho.

[ashen vault]

Reddit would unironically upvote the shit out of this

[robust granite]

are there any aspect ratio codes for switch games yet?

like there are codes to help scale 4:3 games up to play 16:9 and I know some exist for the psp to do the opposite.... but havent heard of anything liek that for switch. prob nonexistent bcz its a stupidly specific niche to handhelds that are powerful enough to run switch, but also arent using 16:9 screens lol

[late rock]

Not ideal but I mean I could probably tolerate it

[summer marsh]

Time to finally beat Tears of the Kingdom on this 😆

[late rock]

That's the spirit

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-read-reading-notes-small-gif-5671666

its really funny to consider that if it could run it natively, it would most likely be better than a switch lol

[brittle tiger]

So, for anyone else interested in SakuraRetroModding making buttons for the Classic-6, do you guys think something like the Neo-Geo PS2 Controller (but with the L1/R1 being replaced with L3/R3 for obvious reasons) would make sense?

The PlayStation buttons could also be swapped out with Nintendo-Layout and Xbox-Layout buttons as well for the same idea but with those buttons instead.

[solemn sentinel]

God that controller was fucking peak

The 8bitdo one just isn't the same...

[robust granite]

actually if its being run for those games it makes more sense to leave it as r1 l1

[brittle tiger]

Sure, but I’m mainly saying it being done for a more general control layout.

[robust granite]

I get that it technically has rear l1 and r1 already but if you are using it for playstation fighting games. you would want the buttons to represent the correct inputs.

[brittle tiger]

Not for the PS2 SNK games specifically.

[robust granite]

then it still wouldnt make sesne because it has labels for controls that dont match up with anything the game will put on screen anyways.

best leave those two blank.

[brittle tiger]

Although he could always just leave them a blank gray, or even label them L and R to make it more generally fit those buttons (since I, now thinking about it, actually think it might be difficult to put both the letter and number in the same small button without looking cluttered).

[robust granite]

if you really still wanted the playstation logos on em.

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, thinking about it they are actually likely to be difficult to do even for L1/R1 given it would be both the letter and number scrunched up into 1 button.

[merry mango]

I didn’t know there was a 6 button version

[brittle tiger]

So either L and R, or literally just blank, would probably be better.

[robust granite]

ah yeah forgot how small the buttons are on the classic.

compared to actual controllers they are based on.

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, SNK got around to doing 6-button fighting game controllers on other platforms since most fighting games use L1 and R1 for 2 extra functions.

[wild beacon]

I feel like testing switch at this point is not so much about playing switch as it is about benchmarking the power of the chip (or lack thereof)

[robust granite]

really? how long ago did you hear about the classic? its been a known layout since it was announced.

[merry mango]

I meant 6 button for that specific neogeo gamepad

[robust granite]

oh ok lol

the fightpads went hard ngl.

[merry mango]

I mean, I ordered the 6 button classic lmao

[robust granite]

imagine someone boiught 6 button classic, not knowing there was a 6 button model. "I thought 6 buttons were abxy and slect start lol.

[wild beacon]

you can tolerate it but after 5 minutes you'll be like "alright that was a neat novelty, now let me grab my 16:9 handheld"

[brittle tiger]

Funny enough I just recently ordered a resin print of that mod for the 8BitDo controller’s thumbstick that supposedly makes it feel more like the NGPocket and NeoGeo PS2 thumbsticks, so once those get here I’ll try them out on my 8BitDo controller and let you all know how they feel.

[robust granite]

imagine how crazy it would be if they bundled the classic with a 16:9 handheld and gave a slight discount to both. so you could do exactly this... /s

[merry mango]

If there were such a thing I’d jump on that deal immediately

[solar nebula]

I recommend anbernic make an ARC that can actually run Saturn 🥲

[merry mango]

Just get a classic?

[robust granite]

exactly lol

[wild beacon]

then you'll proceed to emulate switch on the 16:9 for 10 minutes and finally you'll be like "alright that was a neat novelty, now let me grab my switch"

[merry mango]

I guess different dpad tho

[robust granite]

why would it be a novelty to play games at a stable framerate? 😛

[brittle tiger]

Nah, “doing it for the meme” is how a lot of people have discovered many cursed but addictive gameplay methods.

Like how even before the Switch 2, you had some people dying on the hill that “Dual Controller and Mouse” was a good layout that works better than regular mouse and keyboard or regular controller.

[robust granite]

are you talking teh whole. cursed. analog joystick movement, mouse aiming thing?

or an even more cursed meme, keyboard movement, controller aiming? lol

[brittle tiger]

It likely won’t be good for normal sane people, but “normal/sane” is outright a boring impossibility, and everyone has their own unique preferences thanks to the gift of individuality (which is unfortunately dying off due to people parroting whatever their favorite celebrity is saying and slowly letting it actually decide what they like).

[robust granite]

speaking of which. I have one thing I want to mess with a little bit with the classic.

it has a touch screen. and most android emulators have the option for on screen buttons.

so for some games, it could work to add some touch screen controls to the screen. but might be super cursed.

[brittle tiger]

I’m talking about someone using the L-stick for movement, the L1/L2 and D-Pad for button inputs, and then using the mouse for precision aiming, with the mouse buttons being additional inputs (or likely the main inputs).

[wild beacon]

it is most definitely cursed

nobody does this even though technically you can

[brittle tiger]

Here’s an example.

[nova skiff]

ah I see

yeah great for shooters

[brittle tiger]

It looks decent on here because it’s a controller specifically designed for that, but using a regular controller and mouse makes it much more cursed on a software level since no one ever designs games with this in mind.

[nova skiff]

legion go was explicitly designed to do this

[river grove]

yeah i think it makes sense. pretty simliar to controller + gyro setups too if you think about it

or the analog stick + touchscreen setup in the 3ds kid icarus

[robust granite]

controller plus gyro aiming is so underrated ngl.

[river grove]

depends on the game and how good the gyro implementation is but yeah its great. i play a lot of splatoon tho so im biased

[robust granite]

even rudimentary implementation is pretty good tbh. at least in the games Ive messed around with adding it to. anything with ironsight aiming at least.

so you have your ironsight aiming mapped to the gyro activation. simple.

[river grove]

yeah. i find it works a little better in third person games than first person tho cuz if you have the sens too high it can be pretty jittery in first person. but if you only use it when you use ironsights that makes sense

[robust granite]

yeah I was using it first person in new vegas lol

never had any issues, just tune it correctly.

and have game by game tuning settings. which can be some work I guess but worth it.

[river grove]

i really liked it in the switch port of old school doom lmao using gyro for strictly left/right, no vertical aiming. helped a lot with adjustments while circlestrafing

[robust granite]

never tried that. but the gyro aim in BOTW was solid.

[gaunt cargo]

I laughed at that too, my editor having some fun with me 😆

[polar kiln]

Just seen a video of RP Mini with the taller screen and the bezels are tiny

Wish they did the same with the Classic

Could have been a much smaller device

[modest mantle]

They're just behind the shell

Like they might be slightly thinner. But they don't go to the very edge. Plus on android there is some benefit to having a bezel for gestures. At least compared to like miyoo mini

[robust granite]

it does have slightly smaller top and bottom bezzels but the bigger thing is. it having a black front face. vs any other colour. it will make the black bars on the oled disappear. on both the mini and the black bezzeled classics.

it still has the bezels though and they arent small enough that it would make the unit noticably smaller.

[brittle tiger]

Ok, so Sakura is confirmed to have gotten a 4-button and a 6-button classic to support buttons for both, and is open to the NeoGeo PS2 controller idea for the 6-button.

[young tiger]

Do we have any guides on retro handhelds for android emulation that may help for retroid classic or retro game corps is preferred?

[robust granite]

did you bother looking it up before asking?

[dusty marsh]

Savage

[young tiger]

I did, there are guides on specific devices so didn’t know which one to follow as I’m not aware of which ones are android, but can check, thank you

[robust granite]

android is android.

there are guides specific to android. and the only key differences will be button layouts. and screen aspect ratios and resolution.

[young tiger]

Makes sense, and guess I can take any guide and tweak the rest on my own, thanks

[robust granite]

for the most part you just download emulator, set up buttons.

it gets more complcated if you want to use launchers, but there are specific vids to that.

prob the most important one to figure out is watch a guide to Retroarch, thats about the most annoying part if you are using it instead of all standalone emulators. but its really good when its working. just obtuse in how to save things sometimes,

since it has settings to save on a game to game basis, or console to console basis, or the entire system wide....lol

[young tiger]

You are right, I tried retroarch with emulation station and there were a lot of places I could configure the buttons, and other config, alongside a slew of standalone emulators recommended for some platforms so guess my question was redundant given android is the same most devices

[robust granite]

the bigger thing is looking up guides on specific things you are trying to do with an android device.

[young tiger]

This was on the post dmg so maybe I’ll take the retro arch approach for most systems that do work pretty well and figure the rest out. It is overwhelming in the beginning

[dusty marsh]

In all seriousness it's good to ask. Could be helping someone else on the forum who didn't yet or didn't want to.

Retroarch is daunting at first glance.

[robust granite]

Retroarch just takes time to learn to set up at first but then its easy....enough lol.....

still funny to watch stubbs struggle to figure out the shaders bcz he doesnt use them normally.

[young tiger]

That is sensible, it’ll take me a while to setup Roms and not everything is one size fits all hardware wise, like popping a microsd from one device to another but with enough hands on I can make my own process

[dusty marsh]

I used to game with zero shaders up until recently. I have been missing out.

[young tiger]

Right, I am many steps away from shaders so asking about them would be moot at this time, seems like I have some reading to do first ☺️

[robust granite]

I used to not like em, but that was when I wasnt sure what ones were good and theres a lot of bad ones.

[dusty marsh]

This is probably why I avoided them. Hard to tell which ones to use and which to avoid. YouTubers help with that.

[robust granite]

not too many tbh. just once you get retroarch setup. then you can begin to mess with the idea.

[young tiger]

I have seen some videos and a lot on the Pocket DMG chats and fine tuning like that is great for personal or exact behavior

[robust granite]

yeah I mainly watch vids and see what filters look good, or forums to see whats reccomended. clicking through hundred isnt my thing lol.

[young tiger]

Yes you’re right, gotta setup the Roms I prefer and go from there. Sometimes when you dump a bunch of roms and bios for volume it doesn’t work as it feels a lot to manage

[solemn sentinel]

Russ would never lead me astray

[robust granite]

I found one shader. crt-Cyclon. and its hilarious. bcz its a crt shader but it also adds the rounded Crt screen edges look lol.

[young tiger]

Russ’s guide helped me with the Obtainium process which I really liked, I didn’t get to individual emulators so will go through that

[young tiger]

Think I saw something similar stubbs used in the classic live demo

[frank grove]

Obtanium is great

[young tiger]

It’s fun in theory to choose and try those shaders

[brittle tiger]

And even then he went for a shader that’s ironically not actually good for non-integer scaled games.

[young tiger]

I am trying to setup two systems, one handheld with classic 4 and 6 with Artemis for “maybe” game streaming which but the looks of it may not work for every game and second is shield pro to play on tv with Artemis and Apollo

[brittle tiger]

Something like Sharp-Shimmerless-Grid would’ve been a lot better since it’s essentially the lcd grid shader being directly incorporated into Sharp-Shimmerless.

[young tiger]

Like a game streaming plus hyper spin setup on shield

[young tiger]

Interesting, so it could depend on the scaling, screen ratio or the panel (lcd/oled)?

[robust granite]

I really do think playing with shaders is gonna be so much fun on this handheld tho.

[brittle tiger]

Pretty much, I know people were complaining about “why the 40XX V and GBC look better than the Classic” and that “the Classic looks blurrier than the other 2”, but the simple reason is that both were integer scaled while the Classic wasn’t (the modded GBC being obvious for the integer scaling, but even the 40XXV had the GBC game being integer scaled and had an overlay specifically made for that).

[young tiger]

I think so too, the colors and brightness is great and it may show some of those changes well

[young tiger]

Understood, so it’s like over processing vs better reference on the type of game and display to replicate experience like the original

I do appreciate the feedback and guidance, will continue to read and get ready

[robust granite]

yeah the whole hobby is about what compromises you want to make, what you are looking for out of the device. so....

[brittle tiger]

When using Non-Integer scaling, it’s important to also add something like Sharp-Shimmerless or even Sharp-Bilinear(the older recommendation before Shimmerless was an option) to make it look better, since otherwise you just end up stretching the pixels, and while a high res screen will make it look better than low res in the event of both being non-integer, it won’t actually look as good as the low res screen if said screen happens to be using integer scaling.

[robust granite]

or run with interger scaling and deal with extra bezel lol

[young tiger]

I hear you, that’s a good benchmark to consider what to use or build preferences

[robust granite]

which can work on some screens fine with minimal losses but others....not so much lol

[brittle tiger]

And yeah, that too. Integer scaling is always gonna look cleaner than non-integer without any shaders, and even Sharp-Shimmerless is effectively just making non-integer look better, but whether or not it’ll look as good as legit integer scaling depends on how close the non-integer scaling is to being integer (like is it only n.2x or n.3x? Then sharp shimmerless will be fine, or maybe even integer overscale if the extra lines of pixels aren’t important to the game itself).

[brittle tiger]

But really? I never cared much about integer scaling, so I just slap on Sharp-Shimmerless for every game that isn’t an integer scaled value and go for the games using the full height and/or width of the screen regardless.

[robust granite]

also. It really doesnt matter after you get to 3D anyways.

but yeh lots of personal prefrence on things.

[young tiger]

Right, have to try per system and games and build per preference, some folks like making it as original as possible and some like the processing and maximize screen estate

[robust granite]

you can totally run games stretched to full screen if you wanted lol.

[sly rampart]

Anyone know if they are shipping out this weekend or is it monday for the push for shipments for those hoping to skip tarriffs in the US?

[young tiger]

Haha I used to think that’s the best way to watch all of it on the screen, but sometimes it doesn’t feel right, and I’m no shader expert so I will do what you said, configure retroarch and fine tune it, most of the systems I like will be there, I do want to play the less heavy side scrollers on the switch which from the demo looks like works pretty well with reduced resolution

[frank grove]

Mine physically shipped out today

Got tracking friday

[young tiger]

I am not sure, the classic 6 I ordered on launch day is on the way and from what I heard they’re preparing shipments quickly. I ordered the atomic purple last night and from the looks of it may ship out soon

[robust granite]

yeah they are bcz shipping just flat out is stopping after the cutoff date of the 24th/25th

to the states anyways.

https://tenor.com/view/amelia-watson-dancing-twerk-twerking-vr-gif-23916341

the rest of us not having to worry about the cutoff dates lol

[eager rain]

if anything shipping will be so fast for canadians next month

[robust granite]

based on the lack of american shipments?

[eager rain]

exactly

[robust granite]

I was thinking about that but also the possibillity of the 3 delayed colours now being more available as well to ppl that didnt pre-order day 1 lol

[eager rain]

yeah if reviews are good I might order a kiwi

[robust granite]

the Teal was my childhood one. so Im debating that one or the pokemon one.

[eager rain]

kiwi was my childhood one so I'm also debating it or the pokemon one! lol

[summer marsh]

Hoping my teal that was ordered April 9th arrives in Canada nice and swiftly 😇

[robust granite]

Im waiting a bit longer just to hear more reviews, maybe more statistics of the battery life and see if any quirks pop up.

been sold on it since the announcement tho so...

[eager rain]

yeah, new chip is my hesitation

lack of linux support is a bummer

if it had been another sd865 I would've jumped on it so fast, even if that raised the price by $50

[summer marsh]

Ugh that's what I was hoping for, would have gladly paid the extra. Though I've seen people complaining that this SoC is overpowered for the device as is 🙄

[brittle tiger]

I ordered on launch an Atomic Purple, only to change my mind and change to Teal on April 8th since it was the actual color of my first good quality GBC, and then the announcement was made a good couple days after that, so I just switched again to Classic-6.

[eager rain]

so many people view a better chip merely as a way to play newer games rather than a way to play older games better - it's sad really

[robust granite]

ngl that would be so pointless tbh.

at least for the form factor with no controls to benefit it.

[brittle tiger]

And now, despite ordering the Classic on launch and the Flip 2 on April 9th, my Flip 2 just shipped before my Classic.

[eager rain]

better runahead, WAY better gpu for shaders, video out over usb C, FOSS firmware support, native pico 8 - seems like a bargain for $50.

[gentle sluice]

wait, this plays games? I thought it was for mining Poké Dollars

[steady mortar]

I agree

[summer marsh]

not at all, between linux support, even better saturn support and shader support. then there are probably literally 1000 ps2 games that play great with a dpad. this is just wrong

[robust granite]

considering the systems its running doesnt need much extra runahead or better gpu for shaders. video out seems pointless imho but you could argue otherwise.

[eager rain]

the gpu on the classic is worse than the gpu in the 406h/v, it will 100% struggle to run any of the harder CRT shaders

[brittle tiger]

No, that’s rk3566 territory. Snapdragon G1 Gen 2 is for the “real moneymakers”, like monkey portraits.

[robust granite]

if you want to make a point. dont exaggerate bcz there defeintely are not that many.

[summer marsh]

there's like 4300 ps2 games lmao

[robust granite]

yes and now find a list of Dpad specific ones. not to mention again, theres a device for it thats much beter suited.

the mini.

[sage silo]

Personally feel like an 865 would have priced me out of it because at they point I'm starting to feel it overlapping too much with my rp5

[robust granite]

the mini with the classic screen infact.

[sage silo]

It launching with the mini as well would probably get them compared to Anbernic and the H700

[eager rain]

unfortunately I don't think they're going to sell those

[robust granite]

we'll see. prob not but that woulda been the answer.

[eager rain]

but also for me sticks = not pocketable

[robust granite]

bcz this device doesnt need to be that.

[sage silo]

All of the ps2 games I play require a stick but honestly if I could map the accelerometer to a stick, I could probably have fun with them. They could be played with a dpad too. Just probably not as good.

[sage silo]

Yeah that's why I'm glad it has none

[robust granite]

just use on screen touch joysticks lol

[eager rain]

I don't care about PS2 at all but I care about having an sd865 for firmware, decent shaders to actually take advantage of the 1080p oled on retro titles, and saturn

[sage silo]

I'm not planning to play ps2 on it. I just had the thought. I have an RP5

[eager rain]

so if I did get an rp mini with the classic screen I'd be stick deleting it

[robust granite]

imho, its a shame we stopped caring about sliders. perfect answer for pocketable with joysticks.

[eager rain]

I might just stick delete my 406v instead of getting a classic tbh

[sage silo]

Sliders can have their problems but absolutely help with pockets

[robust granite]

theres a few games I will try, most wont require sticks but a few I want to try out with the cursed setup lol

[young tiger]

I know that sucks, hopefully later, as I feel this is one device I could see buying with multiple cool ways specially between classic 6 and others

[sage silo]

If it can handle them, a lot of wii games had wiimote support

[summer marsh]

I will at least try outrun 2006 on this thing, doubt it runs fullspeed. but I hope it does.

[brittle tiger]

…Ok I’m just laughing my ass off at the mental image of playing Wii Sports on this.

[robust granite]

should. in theory. depending on the game.

[sage silo]

I like playing Mario Kart with the accelerometer on my RP4P and RP5

[robust granite]

I know like 2 games specifically that are low requirement gc and ps2 titles that absolutely will be perfect on this thing.

[sage silo]

Pokémon Rumble is just pure horizontal wiimote.

Rhythm heaven

[brittle tiger]

Like, imagine trying to play Baseball with this thing.

[sage silo]

Even Smash

[brittle tiger]

Without Video Out to at least have a separate screen for looking at the game while swinging.

[robust granite]

1. Gale of Darkness ran on the 3+ alone and 4 on the lowest power setting
2. Boku no Natsuyasumi is also low spec and tank controls lol

[sage silo]

Before I got into competitive smash, I used to exclusively be a wiimote player. I did my first tournaments with one

[robust granite]

I played a local tourney with sideways wiimote b4 lol.

[summer marsh]

would love to play ffx on this. something about verticals and jrpgs is great

[robust granite]

local players were not good lol

[robust granite]

same.

[sage silo]

I was at my university. I held my own but I lost

[brittle tiger]

At least with Bowling you don’t have to look at the thrower using a different type of throw to account for that, you just bowl.

[robust granite]

tho I was more aiming at putting a CRT shader over ps1 lol

[summer marsh]

see you want the sd865 😉

[robust granite]

for some FF9

[brittle tiger]

Definitely can agree on that.

[robust granite]

does it need that much power to run?

[sage silo]

I then spent thousands of hours in that competitive scene getting much better. I was ranked top 10 on the power rankings when I left

[summer marsh]

No idea tbh, will be interesting to see how it runs

[brittle tiger]

I already used to have the RG405M as my main FF machine for all the games from 1-10, and now this thing could definitely be a perfect successor.

[sage silo]

But I mean for casual smash I could absolutely pull the wiimote back out lol

[summer marsh]

405M plays ffx fullspeed?

[sage silo]

A lot of wiiware uses a sideways wiimote setup as well

[brittle tiger]

Surprisingly yes, it requires high performance mode for GammaOS, but it plays legit perfectly otherwise. Even the FMV’s are full speed, since for whatever reason the slowdowns during FMV’s were only on X-2.

[nova skiff]

I started that wii fire emblem game on my rp2+, maybe I'll finish it here lol

[sage silo]

Lot of fun wiiware out there

[robust granite]

thats what im curious about bcz it sounds like its been in a weird place between d900 d1100 power level. so it could run fine on the chip.

[sage silo]

Apotris has too much input lag for me to enjoy on the rp5 so I may as well play one with more fun stuff in it.

[robust granite]

runs on rp4p 60fps on regular performance mode.

[sage silo]

If I ever bother to do switch emulation, I'm moving to Puyo Puyo tetris

[eager rain]

depends on the shader

[eager rain]

rp4p is a lot more powerful than the classic, especially on the gpu side

[sage silo]

Where else can you okay cursed tetris

[robust granite]

wait if it runs well on t618. in theory it looks good on this.

[robust granite]

not quite as important as you might expect. kinda why this thing is kinda punching above its class on just its single core numbers alone.

[eager rain]

well the gpu does all the work with shaders

and believe me, there are crt shaders that struggle to run on the s8g2

[robust granite]

I feel like you are making an argument about somethign completely different.

bcz you really wounldnt be running shaders on top of a ps2 game.

[eager rain]

why not?

the ps2 was also a system designed for CRTs

its not until the ps3/xbox360/wii that consoles actually assumed you had a wide/flat screen

the ps2 didn't even have a digital video out

[summer marsh]

To be pedantic the 360 has great crt support, especially games that came out the first few years.

My 360 was hooked up to crt the whole time back then. Gears of war still looked great 😅

[eager rain]

true, I meant more that every game for the 360 was designed to also look good on a flatscreen than it not supporting CRTs

[nova skiff]

and wii for that matter lol

[eager rain]

vs the GC/PS2 that at launch assumed 100% or close to it of buyers were using a crt

the wii is a weird one where it has some 4:3 mandatory games and some 16:9 mandatory games so you literally can't play the whole library perfectly on one TV lmao

[summer marsh]

Yeah I have a modded Wii hooked up to my crt. Best value for emulation on a crt over 240p

[sage silo]

I bounced 50/50 between LCD and crt with my Xbox. And had a projector TV for 360

[eager rain]

but yeah I will die on the hill that ps2/gc/og xbox are also CRT systems and you should be playing them in 4:3 with shaders

[sage silo]

In number of hours I spent more with my Xbox on a 16:9 LCD than I did crt

[robust granite]

because that functionality doesnt exist?

[eager rain]

what do you mean?

oh gross, does aether not have the crt shaders of pcsx2?

[robust granite]

neither aether nor dolphin do

[sage silo]

And I'm speaking contemporarily. We had the xbox in 2003

[robust granite]

last i checked anyways. unless things changed. unless you are running some really bad old one through retroarch.

[eager rain]

dolphin supports shaders at least on PC

no clue on android

[robust granite]

wait till you learn about flat screen 4:3 tvs lol

[robust granite]

unless somethign has changed in the last year or so. It didnt last time I checked.

[eager rain]

4:3 flat panels were never really that popular for televisions the way they were for PC monitors

mostly because there was no good way to get a video signal into them

TV signals went right from analog outputs meant for CRTs to HDMI which assumed widescreen for the most part

[coarse helm]

16:9 "HD" CRTs were a thing, too.

[robust granite]

uh no...lol they still used analog inputs.

[eager rain]

most people went directly from 4:3 CRTs to 16:9 LCDs

[robust granite]

usually they had both

[eager rain]

yeah so you're converting from the digital GPU in your console to analog and then back from analog to digital in the TV, which was horribly slow compared to using a (cheaper at the time!) crt

while PCs used things like DVI or s-video

[robust granite]

never was a problem we werent playing competitive shooters in 2006

[steady mortar]

Like me in 2013 I don't care about crt anymore but man what a time

[eager rain]

yeah I was using a CRT in 2006

for ps2

[coarse helm]

s-video != SVGA

[frank plinth]

If you can find one of these, they're great for 2000-2005 era consoles...

Sharp Aquos, 4:3

[summer marsh]

I want a vga crt so bad for dreamcast and some retro pc gaming

[eager rain]

why do I have a feeling the sound on that is nowhere near as good as those massive speaker grilles would lead you to believe lol

[frank plinth]

It's really not awful. I found one about 6 years ago on Facebook marketplace, dirt cheap.

[eager rain]

I've been trying to find a proper PC monitor CRT so bad rather than just composite video dirt cheap consumer CRT TVs...

basically gave up and got a 1200p 75hz vrr LCD for my ms dos emulation instead

since that lets me integer scale the anamorphic 4:3 320x200 70hz CGA stuff with a scanline shader

to 1600x1200 4:3 with 5x6 rectangular pixels

[summer marsh]

well I'd never give up my consumer crt though it has s-video and component. definitely prefer that for 240p content.

[eager rain]

2400p would be cleaner for the scanlines but I'm not that ballin' out on MS DOS atm

[summer marsh]

yeah some of those lcd's are actually sought after these days, they aren't bad and take less space. though I will pick up a vga crt some time

seems like tvs are a lot more common still than pc monitors, I think people held onto them for longer

[eager rain]

I got two, they're asus proarts so they're supposedly super accurately colour calibrated too, technically meant for graphic designers

[eager rain]

they were a lot more work to replace than a PC monitor lol

[summer marsh]

oh nice, I had a modern proart monitor, it was pretty good aside from backlight bleed

[wintry pecan]

you could just print domed stick caps to "delete" the sticks so they cant move anymore and dont stick very far up, would be easy

[robust granite]

ok but counter point. maybe its worse than it looks like it would be. still way better than modern flatscreens.

[eager rain]

probably true

I've become addicted to the forbidden knowledge that you can still buy desktop speakers like we all used to have for our PCs

I'm playing warcraft 1 via a 5700u miniPC, dosbox pure, amazon basics computer speakers, and that asus proart monitor right now

[robust granite]

lol

[robust granite]

also very curious of the winlator capabilities of the device lol

[frank plinth]

Might pair this with a Bluetooth controller... 🤣🤣🤣

[solar nebula]

Iirc 4:3 is the aspect ratio closest to human fov. I actually really like when movies use it (or something close)

[eager rain]

for movies I think there's something to be said for different aspect ratios feeling very different

widescreen lets your eyes scan across a large scene vs 4:3 kinda fixing your POV

4:3 certainly feels more intimate

[summer marsh]

For sure. Classic movies used something called academy ratio which was very close to 4:3 but not quite.

Love watching academy ratio movies on iPad

[solar nebula]

Oh definitely. I can’t imagine The Lighthouse in widescreen. 4:3 gives such good closeups. I like it in interiors too. Like, watch The Shining in the batard 16:9 version they recently did vs the DVD at 4:3 and the hotel really shines, haha

[opal harbor]

Yup I'm in for a classic. Performance for the money looks great. Upto Saturn is what I'm looking for and DC. Surprised it does some GameCube and PS2. Future looks bright for retro handhelds with some very nice chipsets coming

[delicate ermine]

let's just hope the weaker GPU ain't throws a wrench into our high end shaders

[night crag]

yeah thats what i initially thought too, itll be a few months before i buy one so hopefully theyll be some good testing by then

the retro handhelds guys dont use shaders (which is insane imo) so they didnt cover it

[delicate ermine]

I mean, personally on the systems that I intend to play on this (not that I really will play anything anyway), even high end shaders should give it lil issue... but those who hoped for the "perfect" Saturn device will definitely fall short on this, not only because a few of the most demanding games will require the use of Yaba instead of Beetle, but also because this probably won't have enough overhead to use shaders on top

otherwise it's probably fine

even if the GPU is only t618 level

it's certainly an interesting SoC tho, CPU performance that seems to be surpassing a Helio G99 or even the t820, but a GPU that is slightly worse than the t618

like the G99 has about 1.8x the GPU performance and t820 even 3.2x

[brittle tiger]

Ok, and now my Classic has been shipped.

Neither have actually been handed to DHL yet, but I’m guessing they’ll both be handed off by this Monday at most.

[craggy torrent]

I hope I was not the only one to wake up to this email

[devout sand]

might not want to post your tracking# and order# but congrats!

[night crag]

true, I'm not even thinking of Saturn just ps1 and lower, time to look into the library ig

[floral current]

Might wanna cut out your tracking and order number brotha

[thick isle]

https://tenor.com/view/taken-i-will-find-you-bryan-mills-liam-neeson-gif-4984536

[candid idol]

Also woke up to shipping confirmation this morning 🤜🏻🤛

[cerulean plinth]

Me too

[summer marsh]

Sounds like everyone is putting in crazy hours over there getting as much shipped as possible

[sly rampart]

I didn't get a message because my e-mail is wrong, but it looks like it's shipping.

Damnet I'm getting the retro version not the PKM. I didn't make that clear enough in all the confusion. Damnet.

[craggy torrent]

maybe i want you to come hang out

[sly rampart]

Whoa whoa guys this is getting way to friendly. This is the internet. Be more of a dick to each other.

[summer marsh]

Who do you think you are, an architect??

[sly rampart]

I'm not even a real acrhitect! I'm just a schlub who got the retro colorway instead of the cooler PKM on the classic! I really can't change it at this point, might as well reserve myself to the shittiest colorway

[summer marsh]

haha that sucks, I don't think it looks that bad though the grey bezel isn't ideal

[brittle tiger]

Ooh, and my Replacement RP Mini screen is included in the Flip 2 Shipment!

Nice! So I’ll likely be getting all 3 by the end of this week.

[modest mantle]

Still waiting on my classic. Flip should be here Monday

[steady flower]

Which color ?

[modest mantle]

Ice blue and pokemon yellow

[frank grove]

Mine left Hong Kong like 16 hours ago, should be landing stateside shortly if it hasnt already

Heard some say it goes to cincinatti first

[summer marsh]

what game are you gonna play first on this?

[frank grove]

people play games on these?

I just buy them to set up

Lol prob going to go right to the heavy hitters and test switch games

Was going to try san andreas but it looks like it runs fine

[summer marsh]

lol I know this is a meme but a lot of us actually game on these

when my 6 button gets here I will benchmark many saturn games then play sega rally and shining the holy ark

[frank grove]

I only got a 4 button, but maybe ill sit down and try to actually beat die hard arcade

Actually is the saturn version better to play than the arcade?

I have the game for my saturn, but only played the cabinet once like 30 years ago lol

[summer marsh]

No idea tbh but it was an ST-V game which is a saturn with more ram. So maybe the Saturn version has minor differences to work on a stock saturn's ram.

[frank grove]

I have both

Actually want to try the ps2 version

Is there a romhack to get it in english?

[summer marsh]

no idea!

[frank grove]

Im playing it rn and I guess you dont need different language hack

This plays amazing tbh, and has the arcade and saturn version on it

[merry mango]

My classic hasn’t shipped yet

Maybe there’s time to order another one and they’ll include it lol

not likely

[summer marsh]

you'll live, you have a flip on the way to keep you busy 😉

[young tiger]

classic 6 eta coming tuesday and hoping the atomic purple ships soon!

[robust granite]

real lol

really curious if shovel knight properly scale to the display resolution?

[young tiger]

that whole vibe of getting every thing perfect on the device is a thing of its own https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-13268829466700541863

[solar nebula]

I do enjoy the setup, but I also definitely play actual games. Working through Super Mario Land 2 on my MM+, Crazy Taxi 2 on my 405v, and trying to decide what I’m doing on my TSP

[solemn sentinel]

TSP is great for GBA

[solar nebula]

I was thinking GBA but don’t want to just replay zero mission again lol

[solemn sentinel]

Play Fusion instead

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[gaunt cargo]

We have guides that cover this yeah, our written RP Mini setup guide should be the best option on our site right now for the classic

[young tiger]

thank you! I know you mentioned it in the live demo as well, much appreciated

[gaunt cargo]

We also have a general all purpose Android guide that will work well, or Russ's of course too

For sure!

Just use the search bar on our website

[young tiger]

yes absolutely, that is very helpful and I am going to do a thorough read of both and setup selective roms and settings this time

[gaunt cargo]

Also, I came in here to say happy Easter, but also I discovered that Prince of Persia Lost Crown for Android surprisingly works great on the Classic, but doesn't work at all on thr 557, Flip 2 OR the Odin 2 Mini, which is wild.

[young tiger]

happy easter!

[gaunt cargo]

SD G1 Gen 2 is a yes, while SD865, 8 Gen 2, and D8300 is a no

Figured it would be the opposite results for such a popular game

[heavy wren]

Thought the day would never come🥲

[young tiger]

nice! wish I had ordered both handhelds the same day, excited to see lot of shipments getting out for all

[gaunt cargo]

Also the battery drained 2% in standby for 12 hours.

[frank grove]

Do you recon any of the Fifa games for switch might run on it?

[robust granite]

cant wait to hear more about general battery life when playing games. sounds like its efficient.

[solar nebula]

I’m gonna be that guy who says Fusion is meh. So was Dread 😬

[robust granite]

its ok to to just be flat out wrong and voice it online. 😛

[solar nebula]

I’m surprisingly good at it!

[dusty marsh]

Enjoying super Metroid. First time playing it.

[gaunt cargo]

So far only 2D games have been playable for me

Ok I decided to order the 6 button today with DHL, let's see if I make the cutoff

[warm nebula]

Older 2d fifa games were more fun anyway. 😄

[steady mortar]

You thinking switch we should focus fifa games on ps2 or pes

[dusty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

Good luck with that

[gaunt cargo]

For science!

[floral current]

I think retroid is evading customs with 4PX lol

My flip 2 arrived in the states without any customs checkpoints

[frank grove]

I wanted to play with the newer rosters and qol updates

I think mine just cleared customs

[karmic beacon]

handheld smuggling

[floral current]

fr lol

[frank grove]

Theyre using the fast dhl, not the slow one, you should be good

Gonna be heated if they come out with another version in a few months that adds a stick or slider

Will go to canada to smuggle one in if thats the case lol

[modest mantle]

Yeah. DHL International Express

[heavy wren]

Patiently awaiting arrival

[floral current]

Best retroid imo

T610 at the time was amazing for the price

[scenic lodge]

yup

if u weare lucky u can get it for just 80 ... (before) how we roll back that much idk ... (reality 3566 for 80$ ) but GameMt and others will change it nowaday

[heavy wren]

Max spec rp2s is My n64 machine, currently replaying GoldenEye & Shadows of the Empire better than my n64 could ever have🥲

[dusty marsh]

Rp2s still stand tall aesthetically

[frank grove]

That looks great!

Such a classic

[scenic lodge]

do u have mw 2005 gc? maybe we can compare how it peform vs t618 (really interesting) cpu close, so shouldnt be big difference (gpu way stronger)

[floral current]

Def peak retroid design imo

[plain flax]

I wish screen replacements were a thing. Imagine if you can swap in an OLED or at least a high ppi IPS like the the brick, into the rp2s. If only this hobby wasn't so niche

[scenic lodge]

u can just do it yourself easily, on any console

[plain flax]

If you could it'd be great for the Odin 2 boys who don't want to bother upgrading

But I've never seen anyone even try

[scenic lodge]

lazy/scary

odin 2 with amoled display is best handheld

[summer marsh]

ok can you tell me how I can upgrade my switch 2 to oled thx

[scenic lodge]

oh, just find exact size panel (would be hard 7.9'' 1080p)

[late rock]

SUPER8 OLED

[summer marsh]

lets hope, he said he'd do it!

[robust granite]

I gotta star a business getting all the retro handhelds into the states lol.

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ifht-carbon-dealer-mtb-mountainbike-gif-20969945

Can I interest you in a fine retro handheld

[robust granite]

hmm...urge to order things durring the aliexpress "dump things b4 the cutoff date" sale is tempting. only a few hrs left...

[warm current]

Dumb question - this has a touchscreen, correct?

I watched Russ' video and honestly couldn't tell if it did or not, I kind of assume it does

Otherwise he'd mention that it doesn't

[frank grove]

Yea it does

[warm current]

I should have gotten a Classic with my Flip 2

Oh well

[summer marsh]

https://www.goretroid.com/en-ca/pages/delivery-dashboard

shipping dashboard updated. looks like they've shipped out all the retro colorways

[merry mango]

no update on my classic

[solar nebula]

Oh, oh no. Not me opening Ali

[summer marsh]

looks like its going to be awhile for mine

[merry mango]

Why’s that

[summer marsh]

because I didn't order it until a few days ago. plus my teal is a ways out

[merry mango]

Ah

It’s ok. We’re Canadian

Unless somehow Canada shipments get affected too for some reason

[summer marsh]

no we're good, just gotta be patient

didn't you order the classic 6 day 1 though?

[merry mango]

Yeah

[summer marsh]

damn are they prioritizing americans or what

maybe they are being affected lol

[merry mango]

makes sense that they would do that

[summer marsh]

Canadians out here catching strays cause of American bs 😔

[merry mango]

im sure americans catching strays cause of american bs too lmao

[sonic coral]

pain.

[merry mango]

ugggh i just cant seem to find a way to get vf5 on the rp5. oc game wont run on winlator and ps3 emu not loading vf5 lol

wouldve been perfect cause i got outrun 2006 running perfectly on it

[summer marsh]

have to settle for vf4

[merry mango]

after playing all of them i can whole heartedly say vf4 is the ugliest vf

the design and aesthtics of vf3 are superior to vf4

[summer marsh]

vf3 on dc isn't really a looker either when you compare it to soul calibur or dead or alive 2

[merry mango]

i didnt have much respect for vf3 until i played it arcade perfect lately lol

[summer marsh]

yeah the dc port was rushed

[merry mango]

i guess i just have to wait until i, or someone else, can find a way to get vf5 working on winlator

[robust granite]

Im like.....do I buy a 34xx or nah.....

[robust granite]

yeah but.....we arent restricted on colour options. just gotta be patient. regular shipping patterns should resume after the 24th

[merry mango]

good news! vf5 running on rcps3! bad news its running half speed

will try n tweak

[robust granite]

good news. ps3 android emulation is new so theres room for improvement in how it works.

bad news, prob a ways away from huge improvements. and by that point, new devices prob will also exist lol

[merry mango]

im surprised its even running

[robust granite]

im curious if 3D Dot Game heroes is working yet. iirc that game is notoriously difficult to get working well on anything.

mmmm....do I need a 34xx if I get the classic? XD

the technically correct answer is "hey dumbass, you dont need either"

[merry mango]

if you wanted a 4:3 ish mini-ish horizontal, imo rp mini v2 is almost endgame?

[robust granite]

it looks good, but no real need fot that much power with that setup.

[merry mango]

honestly im enjoying the rp5 so much i just might want one

[robust granite]

Im still enjoying the 4pro. I'd upgrade but I really dont have a huge reason game wise.

maybe sell my 4pro to a friend and go for a 5 at some point lol

[lunar pecan]

4pro is slim and nice tho
why get rid of it

[merry mango]

its not oled....

[robust granite]

that basically. and the gamecube colourway.

but tbh not in a rush to do that. like I said. only if I sell my 4pro would I consider that. and not in any rush to do that.

[pseudo dove]

PES > fifa

[merry mango]

ok got vf5 revo pc running on winlator. runs too slow. also i much prefer the look of the og over this new port. now all i can hope for is better rpcsx support/optimizations.

[pseudo dove]

Does ori and hollow knight play on this ok?

Saw switch mentioned

[merry mango]

i would think so?

if they have windows ports, i would think maybe those might run better

[pseudo dove]

Anything over 32bit is a nice bonus though

Although I have to keep remembering there’s no stick

[merry mango]

oh whoops i was thinking rp5 lmao. this chip is so new, further testing needs to be done

im just hoping the custom drivers will work on this

[tiny walrus]

shame its an android device, with this chip and screen it would be a perfect device if it run linux

[steady flower]

Android is good for battery life

[tiny walrus]

I'll take an hour less of battery life for a minimal Linux os

[brittle tiger]

Yup, my Flip 2 shipped on Friday, and it’s already getting delivered today.

And the Classic is getting delivered Wednesday despite shipping on Sunday.

[floral current]

My classic has shipped now too

[sage silo]

Mine is expected Tuesday after shipping on Thursday

[modest mantle]

Flip 2 today baby!

Oh snap. Pkmn yellow classic just shipped too

Ordered 4/3

[floral current]

[bronze bolt]

Ordered my SaturnBoy on 3/27 and it shipped this morning

[modest mantle]

Oh wow. The expected date says Wednesday. Lol. But that seems fast

My flip didn't even move at that speed

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/missinout-missing-out-missingout-leftout-gif-14214999

[pseudo dove]

Are USA guys expecting to have to pay some more when it arrives?

This week

[floral current]

I used 4PX and those mules skipped customs altogether so either I don’t pay or I don’t get it at all lol

[rare magnet]

it's still under de minimis until may 2.

Following the Secretary of Commerce’s notification that adequate systems are in place to collect tariff revenue, President Trump is ending duty-free de minimis treatment for covered goods from the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and Hong Kong starting May 2, 2025 at 12:01 a.m. EDT. Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures. All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders.

[summer marsh]

Yeah but the pope taught JD Vance about empathy before he died, so they’re going to keep de minimus

[floral current]

Lmao

[late rock]

So is it still 30% and $25? I don't really know what to think atp because I saw other articles stating that it was going to be 90% and $75 and then 120% and $100

[rare magnet]

you're probably right that the amounts have gone up since the white house posted the update I quoted. Just mainly copied that one because it had the de minimis date in it.

[summer marsh]

Did yours get shipped? The dashboard is updated again

[merry mango]

Nope

[summer marsh]

Wow that’s awesome, are you the first one here to get it besides reviewers? Let us know how you like it

[frank grove]

Firing up Russ' setup video now

[coarse helm]

DHL says my Classic-6 will be here Wednesday!

[dusty marsh]

does the pope even own a suit???

DHL claiming my faux-classic in black is coming today (pocket dmg) 😛

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/trades-deal-trade-ill-ya-gif-13382459

[dusty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-a-tempting-offer-dr-frasier-crane-kelsey-grammer-frasier-that-proposal-is-enticing-gif-9307484605209697616

[summer marsh]

ok you win, that's better than us plebs waiting for the classic 😛

[merry mango]

No fire or heart emojis. Just showing that day 1 preorder still hasn’t shipped lol

[summer marsh]

updated

[dusty marsh]

removed my fire emoji

[merry mango]

I don’t mind tho. Still having a lot of fun with my rp5. Also waiting for an incoming 5090fe

[frank grove]

I switched retroarch to the xmb view and its tiny

[modest mantle]

Not til May 2nd

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-community-too-small-to-read-read-reading-gif-5494204

[modest mantle]

Honestly that's why DHL and China in general is just like, forget shipping to US after the 25th if this month

[merry mango]

Ooooh retro. Do I buy another one…..

[modest mantle]

This gif can never be overused

[merry mango]

Tiny but the text is crisp

[robust granite]

isnt there a way to change text scaling? I dunno bcz I usually just set up RA once and then try to never touch it again bcz of how convoluted saving changes and finding the correct menus can be lol

[frank grove]

Whats the refresh rate of this screen?

[robust granite]

60

[scenic lodge]

waiting comparison video this tiny dude vs any t820 (hope with Gamma)
and bet it will beat it everywhere ... (Qualcomm drivers matters)

[ornate sail]

I have just ordered a Classic-6, Saturn beeing probably very decent. But I really wish a 4 vs 6 comparison (button sizes, noise, feel). @gritty falcon raised doubts questioning the size of the concave big buttons of the 6. Good to have 6 buttons for Saturn and some Arcade, but if it prevents to play comfortably everything else…

[young tiger]

big grats! out for delivery for classic 6 today as well, atomic purple will ship this week

[unkempt frost]

I got my shipment notification over the weekend

[frank grove]

@gaunt cargo after locking auto rotate and force landscape, did you figure out how to get rid of the bar on the right?

[robust granite]

the bar on the right is just the retroid one, you can turn it off easily.

he turned it on durring the stream and just never turned it back off so it looked bad and annoying lol.

[frank grove]

Oh awesome, do you know how lol?

[robust granite]

yeah its in the android scroll down menu.

[gaunt cargo]

Ah that's called the "floating icon" you'll see it in the top menu in android on all later gen retroids

Just choose disable

It has tools like a touch screen mapper for android games

[frank grove]

Thank you! How did you switch between the analog for dpad, is it a setting?

[gaunt cargo]

Ah I had to manually map dpad as analog in each emulator

[frank grove]

Was there not a way to do it for android?, I swore I saw you have a toggle somewhere

[nova skiff]

the one downside of high PPI

[gaunt cargo]

I was hoping their Handheld Settings menu might contain an option to do that system wide, I looked but couldn't find, that would be pretty sweet to have, but wouldn't be ideal for systems where dpad and analog stick typically do different things, so you'd need to be aware of that.

[merry mango]

That’s why you buy two

[young tiger]

I think you can change the scaling of the menu?

[amber pilot]

Settings > User Interface > Appearance > Scale Factor

[scenic lodge]

guys, question ... PAL 50hz game version always help for smoother gameplay or if V60 stable, but G low, it wont help? 🤔

[young tiger]

agreed! this is where the use case of different color+buttons gives a great excuse to get both 😄

[robust granite]

nostalgia was already a good enough excuse to get multiple lol

I still wish they did a black bezel 6 button

black bezels on oleds is so good for hiding aspect ratio black bars....

[young tiger]

oh yeah would have loved a darker colorway for the 6

[robust granite]

genesis colourway

[young tiger]

the 6 was my first exception for a light(er) color, I usually prefer the black/darker choice

[heavy wren]

So since the US isn’t getting the fancy colored shells we wanted, does that mean aftermarket companies will be out to make custom shell colors ???🤔🤔

Just speculation…

[young tiger]

I would hope so!

I feel this will have a lot of interest given the price and features, specially coming from pocket DMG price point and similar look and feel

[frank grove]

Youre a legend 🙏

[frank grove]

Understood, so theres no way to setup the dpad for analog on android native games then if the individual game doesnt have controller options?

[young tiger]

I don't have a way to validate IF this applies to the classic but check this out? https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/wk2w02/possible_to_get_the_left_stick_to_function_as_the/

this may be the opposite to your ask so apologies in advance, don't know if the reverse works

[sage silo]

This only applies to the emulator and not system-wide

[summer marsh]

two grey bezel models tho.... 🙈

[sage silo]

Many games will allow remapping or make the dpad and analog do the same thing at least. Like dead cells allows dpad if you enable it in the settings. I prefer dpad for that game due to the precision platformer style movement

[young tiger]

understood, thank you!

so you would need some type of force overlay on the system level which I would assume would need to be part of retroid software?

[sage silo]

Yeah there's likely a way it can be done using root to force the dpad to act as analog. Though to be honest, it probably only matters in a couple of very niche scenarios since pretty much any application should let you just map the dpad

[sly rampart]

Neeeeice! SOOOOOoooooo how is it?

[amber pilot]

lol each one of those is the top menu item in the list, you open RA and press Right and then A/Enter three times and you're there... but hey I'll take the compliment I guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly rampart]

Yeah, they switched mine to retro from Teal, I wanted PKM yellow (my fault I wasn't clear). @frank grove looks pretty friggin' good though so I'm not as upset.

[sage silo]

I'd love to know how popular each color was

[summer marsh]

yeah I have a classic 6 and a teal coming. though glad I have the teal, I wouldn't want two grey bezel ones even if I think it looks nice

[sly rampart]

I wonder if I can play the xenosaga games on this thing? That would be pretty sweet. Something about those games on a vert makes my heart go aflutter.... Though if I remember correctly I'd need two analog sticks with those games.

[summer marsh]

jrpgs + verticals 🥰

[sly rampart]

I very nearly got the classic 6, but I don't have a big enough collection to have a sega only device and I hate doing 4 button mapping with that Sega 6 button.

[gaunt cargo]

You can use the touch screen mapper to get creative there in some games I bet

We talked about it during the livestream

[sly rampart]

You think this could work with Xenosaga on PS2 stubbs?

[gaunt cargo]

No need for touch on that, just map analog inputs to be the dpad instead

[sly rampart]

Sure it's all messed up given the US cancellation of certain colors but yeah, I'm curious as well to what people went for. Such a great set of unique colors on this one.

[summer marsh]

feels like ps2 will be hit or miss. though some people in here seemed to think it would run ffx fullspeed

[sly rampart]

It was definitely off the table for me but this chip performs a bit better than anticipated. It's been ages since I've played but I think the Xenosaga series would be one of the less taxing games for PS2.

I'm getting the flip in, planning on going through the series on that, but I'd love to be able to have wireless transfer save files and continue to play on the Classic, that would be insanely cool. I've got a trimUI brick and a cubeXX to round out my collection and don't foresee growing it until this tarriff thing blows over (though I'll probably go over budget for a Switch 2 because it's a... well it's a Switch 2)....

Anyone get save games moving between their devices easily? Anything that bridges the gap between linux and android? Best app or method to use?

[summer marsh]

no idea I don't sync saves

[plain flax]

syncthing is what you want. i sync my saves from knulli and muOS to android (and windows) seamlessly using this.

[simple grove]

Ooo what does the case look like? Haven’t actually seen one in wild yet

[frank grove]

Im two hours into it and only half way into Russ' set up video lol

[frank grove]

I watched it live, but I couldve sworn you came across some toggle, I mustve dreamed it

[sinful forge]

does it smell like an ashtray?

[simple grove]

Nice. Thank god it looks normal

[sly rampart]

I got a case as well though this is really a bedside device for me. The TrimUI brick is my daily driver.

[young tiger]

I done gone goofed up on not ordering the case/screen protector 😦 will need to hunt a soft pouch down, something like the pocket dmg had...

[sly rampart]

I would be strangley more into it if it did.

[simple grove]

Thanks for showing that @frank grove Did not like design on website

[sinful forge]

some people around here will know why i'm asking

[frank grove]

I wouldnt call it an ashtray, but def not a natural fragrance lol

[frank grove]

Lol same, I dont think Ill ever use this case

[sly rampart]

Natural fragrance of polyester

[frank grove]

The latter

[summer marsh]

what's the vent smell like at full load?

[sly rampart]

For 10 bucks it's nice to have if I go somewhere for the night, stick it in the case, throw it in my man-purse - everything is copacetic.

[sly rampart]

Entering sex chat.

[frank grove]

Reminds me of the original xbox smell wise

I just leave the fan on smart

[summer marsh]

Wow nice, hopefully it can play Rallisport Challenge 2 then

[sly rampart]

So on the ladder of smells it's above the Xbox series S and below the Steam Deck.

[sly rampart]

Such a great game that

[summer marsh]

The GOAT rally game that’s not Sega Rally

[sly rampart]

Yes! Even now it impresses. The trees dropping leaves never gets old.

[frank grove]

You misspelled richard burns rally

Which Im getting close to testing, almost to setting up nether

[sly rampart]

Keep your impressions comin'!

[ornate sail]

Technical question : the screen is 60Hz, which is nice for 60fps. But is it 60Hz max and it could run at lower speed, or is it a fixed 60Hz ? I’m asking to run PAL games with the screen at 50Hz so as to avoid micro stuttering.

[sly rampart]

Even though mine is shipping, I think it'll be a week or two before I see it.

[sly rampart]

I would assume fixed.

...though does anyone know if this model screen overclocks to 120hz? The chip supports 120hz at @ 1080 p where as the previous chips did not.

[gaunt cargo]

I wished for a toggle

[frank grove]

I will pray with you brother

[thick isle]

toggle and dial are great

[robust granite]

they do have a suggestions section on their discrod don't they for adding features and functionality eh?

[merry mango]

Ah I already have this case. Just no retroid logo

[sly rampart]

How do I join the retroid pocket discord? All the web links are bust.

[robust granite]

I can DM you a link

[sly rampart]

Thanks Minkus! Much appreciated.

[robust granite]

prob worth bugging them to get that functionality if possible. I wouldnt mess with it for too many emulators since you can set game specific profiles which usually work fine. but I know some android games werent liking it not having a joystick durring the test vid.

[pseudo dove]

That official case looks awful, no step in it for the thinner bit behind the screen

[robust granite]

yeh looks pretty plain and underwhelming.

tho I think this is more of a pocketable device to me anyways.

[frank grove]

Its borderline when it comes to pocketability, will come down to each individual

[heavy wren]

I had to switch my kiwi to a retro🥲 so 2 grey bezels it is

[robust granite]

its slightly bigger than a gbc and smaller than a DMG. which were pocketable handhelds.

stop wearing skinny jeans and its fine.

[frank grove]

Actually I only wear JNCOs

[summer marsh]

I'll just touch grass when I leave the house thanks

[modest mantle]

so much for my latex suits then...

[lunar pecan]

NS?

[frank grove]

Yes

Wait am I not supposed to show that here

[lunar pecan]

Idk but it's impressive!

[frank plinth]

I wonder if this'll be a decent device to play Switch HD remakes on like MGS collection.

Or Castlevania collection

[summer marsh]

at 16:9? why? I'd be more interested in running mgs2 ps2 version which is 60fps unlike switch

[lunar pecan]

also ps2 is mainly 4:3 and fills up the screen

[frank grove]

That might be tough to run

[frank plinth]

I like to live dangerously.

Good point. Mainly thinking of games with QOL enhancements that allow you to toggle aspect ratio.

But even then, would it be 4:3 in a 16:9 frame?

[summer marsh]

probably, there may be a way to force it. though yeah I would just emulate older games. it's neat this can run some low end switch games somewhat playably but it's not really practical besides a cool benchmark imo

[unkempt frost]

I'm just glad that it can play a lot of Saturn games on the Beetle core

[merry mango]

This classic may just be my introduction to the Saturn

[coral lodge]

Try eden 😉

[frank grove]

I cant keep up, feels like theres a new one every week lol, havent even heard of this. Ill try it out

[coral lodge]

eden is going to replace Citron

There's a leaked build of eden atm 😛

[frank grove]

Definitely DONT dm it to me

That would really grind my gears

[coral lodge]

YouTube is your friend 😉

[scenic lodge]

O_o ?

[coral lodge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1juhx04/eden_a_new_switch_emulator/

I'm too lazy to explain 😛

[scenic lodge]

it already out

but i dont see any comparison to citron

[coral lodge]

It's not out. The leaked build is out!

[scenic lodge]

almost the same 🙂

[coral lodge]

It's better than Citron.

[coral lodge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/1k2ril6/super_mario_odyssey_on_eden_switch_emulator/

Just one example!

[frank grove]

My boomer ass cant find it

[scenic lodge]

need another

[frank grove]

I wanna make sure I dont grab the bad one

[coral lodge]

dd7e67b4f <--- Build number

[frank grove]

Pretty sure I go on a watch list if I click any of these

[coral lodge]

You can find it on Telegram and YouTube 😉

[candid idol]

This apk has eluded me as well. Can’t find anywhere.

[frank grove]

Only one I found trys to install Skyline

[unkempt frost]

I've been using Uzuy MMJR. I want to wait for a proper Eden release.

[candid idol]

I just found the exit to Eden. So far it’s a pretty chill place. Will give BOTW a fresh plateau speedrun. Couldn’t get Dark Moon HD to boot but I don’t think anyone can right now (on RP 5 anyways)

[frank plinth]

After seeing the 557 price and PS5 price increases, I'm worried we're just seeing the floor for gaming go up. Retroid Classic might be the best last great "price for value" handheld for a while.

[scenic lodge]

rp5/flip2 ur best friend for any task

[frank plinth]

100%, I'm considering Classic as the "newest" of the 3.

And I'm sure Nintendo was dying to raise the price of Switch but knew it'd be a PR nightmare not worth the hit.

[scenic lodge]

classic with controller exist too

[floral current]

The best value devices are gonna be 2nd hand ones now

[frank plinth]

Or "your phone, bro"

[dense tangle]

Does anyone remember how much the mini was off during Christmas or Black Friday? Was it the same as preorder? I’m thinking of waiting for a sale on the classic but it’ll be the same as preorder might just bite the bullet now.

[scenic lodge]

185-190

[dense tangle]

So $10-15 off, thnx!

[brittle tiger]

Oh it was announced? How much was it?

Nvm, just looked it up.

Honestly, I gotta admit this is actually cheaper than what I was worried it would be, since the prices the D8300 phones were going for is like only $287 for used models, being around $330+ otherwise. So at least they were able to get it down to a more moderate $250.

[dense tangle]

I would never pay for over $200 for an Anbernic

[brittle tiger]

I already stopped wanting to pay more than $80 for anything Anbernic after the shit with the Cube (which was also honestly a last straw after they pulled similar stuff with several other devices I bought from them).

[robust granite]

The screen shit?

[floral current]

Light bleed

[brittle tiger]

Yes, but honestly I would’ve been more than willing to forgive that if it didn’t take almost 2 freaking months of bickering with Customer Support to finally get it “fixed”.

[sly rampart]

If they managed to keep it at 205 it would have been a device that got people used to an Anbernic 200+ USD device (before tarrifs). I'm out at 250.

This gen of snapdragon is looking fecking SWEET if the classic is any representation of the low end.

[robust granite]

I wanted one so bad till I saw that garbage

Pushed me away from getting one even to this day. Whame bcz I still would get one. Lol.

[brittle tiger]

That is what made it the last straw for me on never taking the risk of their more expensive products having any kinds of issues (since they have the literal same quality control as their budget handhelds) since if something happens? I’m gonna have to deal with that level of customer support all over again, because that’s the same level of nonsense I’ve always dealt with from Anbernic’s customer support.

[sly rampart]

I've been pretty happy with Retroid support, considering

[robust granite]

They are always pretty reasonable tbh. Ppl just lost their shit on retroid way too much over the screen situation IMHO. But yeh

[frank grove]

They included a qa card in the classic

[brittle tiger]

If I’m ever gonna get anything from them, I’d rather take that risk with one of their budget handhelds.

[sly rampart]

I've said it before, but I was never interested in the mini. Now that the screen is the original size? I want a mini, pretty badly. Tarrifs end, I'll get that next gen if they make it.

[robust granite]

It's definitely more tempting yeh.

Basically the cube I woulda wanted from the start. Minus the Sega dpad.

I do think anber IC do shine at the sub 100 range tho. The gamblers devices range. Lol

[sly rampart]

That's fair. Again though, they could have made big waves by keeping that down to 205. I DO wonder how much the 9300 is compared to the S2 G2 - given the age of a lot of these emulators I don't think the 9300 is ever going to get good at Switch or Wii when compared to SD where all the dev is going. So I do wonder how much more it is in the processor tape out/prod line. 10 USD? 20 USD? It's looking like it would be worth the premium as SD seems to be taking the crown again this round - these processors will be with us for at least 2 years, prob. closer to 5.

Like the Ayaneo's G3 G2 I know is about as powerful as a SD8G2 (these names for god's sake), but I think the emulators for the G2 lines are going to catch up hard this year and eclipse the SD8G2 that reigns supreme on the Odin's, etc.

I just don't see that progress coming with Mediatek.

[crystal walrus]

Mine was delivered today… can’t play it

I’m in a hospital 3 states away from my home

My home is in Oklahoma

maybe I can get my wife to mail it to me

[young tiger]

waiting for DHL https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[crystal walrus]

dhl is the goat

[young tiger]

I feel you man, I was traveling when the pocket DMG was delivered, had to wait a week and some to get my hands on it

[brittle tiger]

Jesus, wtf happened? Are you ok?

[crystal walrus]

I’m here for my 9month old daughters transplant

[brittle tiger]

Oh, that’s much better than what I was worried about it being.

[crystal walrus]

she’s getting tissue to restart her immune system

It’s like 2 millions dollars or some crazy amount idk

I had to get on a medical plane so I couldn’t pack much, only brought my Retroid Pocket 5, and 406H

[young tiger]

oh dang sorry, assumed you were traveling for work... hope it all works out, best wishes!

[crystal walrus]

Yeah I think she’ll do great, her transplant is tomorrow

[covert star]

Sending you and your family good vibes!!!

[crystal walrus]

ty

[frank grove]

Is winlator still the only way to get pico 8 on android?

[nova skiff]

there's the fake08 retroarch core but it's imperfect

[robust granite]

pico8 still best option is gonna be the cubexx

[frank grove]

Tough to play one handed, but this is wild

[robust granite]

man I hate those grey bezels lol

other than that tho. that looks great. and fun

[junior fox]

THUG?

[frank grove]

Yessir

Dolphin gamecube

[junior fox]

Wild

[frank grove]

Makes me really want a pocket dmg

This thing is great, chip was a huge surprise

[eager rain]

don't make me buy a cubeXX

I already have 3 of the h700 devices

[nova skiff]

just try pico8 through winlator and see if it works out for you first, no need to get out of your way with yet another handheld until then lol

[eager rain]

I mean I also don't have a classic

[nova skiff]

oh

[eager rain]

so right now my best pico 8 handheld would be a tossup between my existing 4:3 h700 devices (28xx or 35xxSP) and my existing 4:3 android device (406v)

[floral current]

I imagine this screen can do some gnarly shader action

[eager rain]

I hope so

[nova skiff]

but can the GPU handle it is the question 😆

[eager rain]

the gpu on the g1g2 is a bit weak so I'm curious where it tops out for CRT sim

its weaker than the t820 on that

I'm worried my preferred GB/GBC shaders are not oled safe

like look at this - the grid lines are lit

which is way more accurate than using black grid lines for a gameboy game

(and it's integer mandatory with a bezel but you could obviously just make that bezel be black instead of showing it)

[floral current]

What shader is that?

That’s fucking tight

[summer marsh]

Wow nice, how was it running overall? Full speed?

[eager rain]

its a slang shader called gameboy-color-dot-matrix under shaders/handheld

[summer marsh]

Is this a serious concern?

[eager rain]

you may have to switch your graphics to vulkan in retroarch and then update slang shaders for it to be there

[floral current]

I’ll give that a shot when my classic gets here

[eager rain]

I have no idea how long it would take to cause burn in

[frank plinth]

❤️ This is very much how I remember GBC to be... except super super dim.

[eager rain]

but yeah it's integer mandatory and only available in vulkan so my 406 is the handheld I use that shader on - my h700 budget handhelds can't do slang shaders

[floral current]

Well when it burns in you wouldn’t need to have the shader on anymore

[wintry pecan]

this looked great on my rpmini/rp5/portal pope, your good

[frank grove]

Little bit of stuttering, but definitely playable

Have it on high performance and smart fan

[summer marsh]

that's awesome. yeah a DMG would be great as there are a ton of ps2 games I'd play on this, would be nice to just brute force everything and not really have to worry if it was going to run (aside from compat issues)

[summer marsh]

Nice, going to test any saturn games?

[young tiger]

I am open to recommendations, it will be a while till I get through the apps and basic setup

[frank grove]

Yea like trying to play Richard burns rally now and it’s unplayable, too slow

[young tiger]

right now I have everything just dumped here and there to need to consolidate my list

[frank grove]

Hope to see some setup vids specially for the classic on YouTube

Since it’s such a niche device

[surreal fable]

Are you able to play around with virtual ram on this.Can help with switch emulation. Mine arrives later today.Looking forward to it.

[frank grove]

Oh like the odin had? Thats a good question

[surreal fable]

Yes

[robust granite]

im not making you, but its like.....that or an rgb30 for the best pico8 screens.

[robust granite]

smart. burn in the shader and then it saves you the GPU overhead lol

[robust granite]

just watch most any android setup guides. they will cover like 95% of the things necessary.

[frank grove]

Yea I used one today, but would be cool to have one that has the emulator settings for a lower powered device like this, and mapping for the dpad

[robust granite]

well emulator settings are gonna be device and game specific and work best on the reddit page where ppl post their own settings and performance numbers, as for dpad mapping, same, game to game basis and you set it up the same as you would when setting up the emulators and do game to game specific mappings if needed.

[river grove]

crazy, cool to see this! tony hawk games are pretty d-pad friendly too so it should play great. i use d-pad even for the 1+2 remaster

[tame raft]

Hope everyone likes their classics, I bought a phone controller and refurbished Motorola with my refund and definitely won’t be living vicariously through YouTube videos on the classic for the next month

[frank grove]

Hell yea! Ive always used d pad for tony hawks, similar to fighting games, you need to hit those angles. Respect to people who can do it with a stick

I have 1+2 for switch, will give it a test but my hopes arent high

Was about to put on the screen protector, but retroid doesnt even give you an alcohol wipe with it

[heavy wren]

Shipped Sunday & already in The US!🤯🤯 4PX runnin the gauntlet to get these packages over in time!!!

https://tenor.com/view/omw-running-roadrunner-crossfit-busy-gif-14821081

[robust granite]

on one hand. its about to suck for you guys for the forseeable future.
on the other hand. they have been prioritizing american shipping it seems so you guys got priority on getting your handhelds before the rest of us lol

[river grove]

yeah wouldnt expect it to emulate too well on this. dreamcast versions of the og 1 and 2 are a great way to play those tho so you should still cover most of the series in decent quality

[frank grove]

No dice

[river grove]

yeah not shocked

[frank grove]

But promising that I got through the menus, hopefully there will be some useable drivers in the future

[merry mango]

Have you tried any Wii games? Specifically tatsunoku…….

https://i.redd.it/rv06u33kx9we1.jpeg

reddit

that black bezel tho....

[summer marsh]

which black bezel colourway are you grabbing to go with the classic 6? 😅

[merry mango]

i gottaa look at the colorways again...

the colors all look so good. but i like to stick with retro themes

if i went with a color id go teal or kiwi

or wait for all black

with sd865

[robust granite]

that purple one looks better than I remember from other imgs ive seen. damn now im tempted more....

[merry mango]

lets all buy two classics!

[robust granite]

only 2? pfft

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[summer marsh]

I still feel dumb for buying two. oh well I decided not to get switch 2 so its a lot cheaper still for me lol

[silver shadow]

Don’t tempt me. I got the 6 for the extra buttons, but seeing that Pokémon Yellow…

[robust granite]

same lol. Im like, up so much money not wasting any on the switch 2

[robust granite]

the yellow looks good but so do all the other retro gbc colourways.

[frank grove]

I don’t have that one, but the Wii games I do have seem to load up fine, but I can’t figure out the inputs

I watched Russ video and thought I set up the controllers right, but I guess not

[merry mango]

same. i got the 6 buttons for fighting games, not necessarily the colorway. would love to have another fun color

[robust granite]

accurate image of me trying to collect them all.

I could buy one a month for the rest of the year tho.....hmm.....

[merry mango]

or just buy all black pocket dmg......

god damnit

[river grove]

there are some pretty great 2d wii games. some really light wiiware ones for one that shouldnt be hard for this hardware (the konami rebirth games, megaman 9 and 10, etc.)

[merry mango]

is that the only way.....

maybe it is

itll have more function with the sticks

[robust granite]

I'm so tempted to ask them if I could buy a black bezelled screen replacement, and attempt to dye the shell of a 6 button black. lol

[merry mango]

but function i dont need lmao

[merry mango]

oof i would love that

[summer marsh]

I'd use the dmg power, even seeing tony hawk ps2 running well but not perfect on this makes me want to

[robust granite]

then bug sakuraretromods for black buttons for the 6 buttons.

[merry mango]

the rp5's sd865 has opened up a new world for me via winlator

cant imagine what the dmg can do

[summer marsh]

yeah I'll likely just wait for the mini v2 for that

[robust granite]

speaking of winlator. im really curious how the classic chip handles it

[merry mango]

i like verticals

[summer marsh]

well time for a dmg then haha

[robust granite]

not expecting anything but im very curious.

[merry mango]

im paranoid they'll release a 4" oled clamshell the day after i order a dmg

[summer marsh]

I'm glad people in here seem to at least respect the dmg, a lot of the retro handheld community just ragged on it so hard. but it's an amazing premium device

[merry mango]

oh wait, the bezels would be huge on that too, thus the whole thing would be huge

[robust granite]

whats the problem with that? just more to add to the pile lol

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-infinity-gauntlet-power-thanos-gif-15000377

[robust granite]

I mean. I still do a bit. lol but not too much bcz the quality is there.

[summer marsh]

I don't want a collection of like 20 handhelds lol. I know I ordered 2 but I only have a few handhelds at this point

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-vs-thor-infinity-war-fight-power-thanos-gif-16648899

Americans trying to buy them all getting hit with tariffs

[merry mango]

im too lazy to sell stuff

[summer marsh]

I sell stuff that I dont use after awhile, I find I use what I have more with a focused collection

[robust granite]

I just give em to friends or sell em dirt cheap if I really dont wanna give em away

[summer marsh]

yeah that too

they're great gifts for sure

[robust granite]

my friend still seems to enjoy the r36s I gave him, and my brother liked the miyoo mini.

[silver shadow]

I’m thinking about getting one even though my RPC is in the mail. Just to have one if I assume that I can never buy one in the future (tariffs, etc.)

[summer marsh]

not much time is there lol

[robust granite]

I think the DMG just kinda sits in that place of....tempting but not enough. for me.

maybe if they ever have a blow out sale.

[frank grove]

Russ said this video is coming out tomorrow!!

[gaunt cargo]

If curious, 353V comparison

[frank grove]

Kinda want a 353 lol

[eager rain]

the stick ergo on it is bad but it's a comfy vert otherwise

very over 3.5" 480p screens tho

[robust granite]

I dont mind em still tbh but there are better screens now being popularily used which is great.

[ornate sail]

On the Retroid Discord, somebody told that with Genesis, Geom is unplayable, Guest-advanced-fastest still skipping and Hyllian OK.

These are bad news. I’m considering a cancel if I cannot de-dither without introducing awful imbalanced scanlines.

[silver shadow]

Hmmm, that zfast crt geom is my preferred shader for all retro gaming…

[wintry pecan]

zfast is a super light shader, this should be able to handle better on genesis especially

[ocean turret]

My classic hasn't even shipped yet despite being a day one pre-order, I guess they must be prioritizing shipments to the US first

[static flame]

Eh, I ordered within 5 minutes of preorders and in the US with nothing yet. Not sure how they’re doing it

[thick isle]

Isn't all day one order already been shipped according to the delivery dashboard

I don't think mine will come before early May

[static flame]

I had to change my color Friday because I got kiwi, but still waiting

[thick isle]

They still have time. I wish they can fulfill all the US order before the door is closed 🤞

[delicate ermine]

If they delay shipping to the rest of the world to get out US orders they will have the next shit storm coming

[ornate sail]

Different needs. I don’t want anything fancy such as curvature and scanlines. To me, CRT shaders are mostly about masks and are the best way to render dithered things as they should. But that requires a bit more computational power.

[thick isle]

Probably yes. But I am kind of sympathetic to the US dudes. Personally I don't mind to have it one or two weeks late. Things will return to normal after April for the rest of the world anyway.

[ocean turret]

I don't mind if they delay shipping to other regions until they fulfilled all the US orders, but it'd be nice if they said so openly

[thick isle]

lets not assume it is the case atm

[sage silo]

Not sure if mine is coming in today. It's on hold for some reason. Maybe weather

[sly rampart]

I know my way around oleds, a shader is not going to do anything on your panel. Static, bright images - run at max brightness for 200 hours with a crazy bright UI element and yeah I guess…. But this is a phone panel and they take a beating so probably 20 times that length of time before you see anything. Shaders add shadow and neutral breakups and would help with OLED more than it would hurt it

[distant widget]

There would still be a discrepancy/difference in the screen 's different areas.
Have a older OLED tv which are mainly watching letterboxed films/show and after some years you can definitely tell the difference between the 2 areas if you suddenly switch to plain colored background.
Nothing too bad and not really noticeable in normal content unless you pause and look for it, that was after some years of course.
Might be different for such screens though, there isn't really much transparency on how(if any) compensation/maintenance they have unlike OLED TVs.

[sly rampart]

I think a WRGB OLED TV from 4 or 5 years ago is vastly different than this phone AMOLED panel. Mobile device OLED has always been a different beast than TV (and later monitor) OLED. For that tech at that time I’d agree that it could be seen even with light use.

But not on this panel. Given the manufacturing process this screen is going to fair far better than the switch OLED, and tests have shown that doesn’t start burning in until 7k+ hours or something. That kind of goes triple with this as I can’t imagine anyone plugging in more than a few hundred hours on a game on this thing. At full brightness which you just aren’t going to do - no HDR so you’ll only be driving the panel at 100 if you’re fighting ambient light.

So I’d argue if the processor can handle it, go hog wild on shaders, that screen is going to make those shaders a beautiful thing IMO

[delicate ermine]

you are overestimating the longevity of OLED panels tbh, especially "phone" ones ain't a different beast but get burn in every 2-3 years

[noble merlin]

I also placed my order 3 minutes after it started, but there’s still no update. Please ship it to Japan quickly

[floral current]

My classic order shipped by now

[sly rampart]

Sorry mate I have to disagree, have OLED panels since 2018, tvs, monitors, tablets, phones.

Ran a fleet of @ 500 devices for PD/FD/gov. Toward the end about half of that fleet was OLED. Officers, etc put one thing on those phones and leave them on all damn day. If there was burn in it was almost always a faulty panel from the start.

We’ve come very far on the burn in issue in the last 5 years. It’s a different ballgame re: burn in. For this device especially

[floral current]

Ordered it on the 3rd

[solar nebula]

Do we really care if we get screen burn in on a $100 device eventually?

[floral current]

Yes

I’d prefer my device last

[modest mantle]

Yeah. They've come a long way honestly. I don't think any of the main manufacturers have this issue much anymore

Interestingly I feel like the one place I now see it all the time is people talking about QD-OLED. Which I don't really understand. Like does that happen way more often with the new tech or what?

I'll caveat that by saying, I've never actually seen someone post a pic of it happening. Just discussion about it

[scenic lodge]

They still impact by static image

Single way how it can burn

[modest mantle]

So it's like the windows bar at the bottom on monitors that cause the issue?

[scenic lodge]

Yup

[modest mantle]

I've never had HUD burn in, but I also don't play for 12 hrs straight each day

[floral current]

Or shader overlays

[modest mantle]

Guess I'm glad I suck at shaders XD

[sage silo]

No longer on hold

[sly rampart]

It's fascinating actually - was one of the first customers for the alienware OLED monitor, that thing has been on since it's first run for productivity. Well over 10k hours on it. Got 8k hours on my G9 32:9 OLED.

The monitors can still burn in, but each generation they're making it very difficult to do so. My G9 is only one year / gen over the Alienware and I would have to work very hard to get that panel to burn in. Very hard. And the G9 is now 2 gens behind. That's not even touching the new tech around the corner like phosphorous driven OLED which should triple the life span, etc.

TVs and monitors you need to think about burn in if you're using it for productivity, but in a year or three, possibly even now, you couldn't burn these things in even within 3 years even if you worked hard at it.

Phone panels are a few years beyond TVs - they've always used different substrates and tech (AMOLED vs. WGRB OLED or RGB OLED) that you can't do on large substrates (TVs, monitors) and those panels last a great deal longer than the TVs and Monitors.

For the most part. You can still get a shit panel but I think from what we know from the Ayaneo DMG and the RP mini, it's a very good panel. If it was so shit it was burning out on small usage we'd have seen some DMGs and Mini screens DOA - if the panel is made cheaply you get a lot more bunk panels from day 1.

[floral current]

My lcd monitor has lasted like 7 years and no burn in to be seen