Retroid Pocket Classic

[summer marsh]

Why are you getting cold on the 6?

[thorn timber]

Really hope my April 6 order makes the last plane out of Shenzhen

[merry mango]

I just want a dmg colorway

Also the normal 4 face button may be nice for normal games

[nova skiff]

snowcake did that, limited run handheld though

[summer marsh]

Yeah which is why I won’t switch my 4 button. It’s better for most systems from game boy and snes to ps1

[frank grove]

Hes going to switch rn

[late rock]

😞

[frank grove]

Citron

Sudachi nvm

[late rock]

16:9 content on 31:27 screen lol

[nova skiff]

fun novelty but who's playing switch on this thing lol

[frank grove]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-me-raise-hand-hi-nick-jonas-gif-16491413

[inner heron]

sickos

[nova skiff]

shoulda coughed up the extra $ for rp flip

[merry mango]

I like to throw everything it lol

[frank grove]

I dont care for clamshell

[inner heron]

actually a good amount of 2d games have 4:3 options

[nova skiff]

or rp5

[frank grove]

But with the new rpmini screens im tempted

[plain flax]

conchas my beloveds

[steady mortar]

Switch on the classic is crazy

[late rock]

I mean I guess it's playable? I could definitely see some people who could tolerate a smaller screen

[plain flax]

does ppsspp have widescreen hacks? in duckstation if you set that on with a square screen, it will fill up the vertical space

oh i should try this on the rg cube, i can answer myself

[scenic lodge]

well i was right ... it run switch (qualcomm power)

[late rock]

Winlator indies could go crazy on this thing

[void mortar]

^

[steady mortar]

You are not wrong

[nova skiff]

another thing I'd look at other devices for tbh

[summer marsh]

Putting my shame here for all to see. Why am I so dumb?

[nova skiff]

would make exceptions for some rpg maker games or pico 8 I guess

[scenic lodge]

i hope they make horizontal device with that sick chip (anyone)

[nova skiff]

rp2s successor with same screen and chip when

[late rock]

If they make a horizontal with this screen and chip it'd be pretty nice

[merry mango]

I think I’ll wait for rg40sp oled

Nvm it’ll still have big bezels and will be huge

[steady mortar]

Ooooo

Rp2s with the chip would be crazy

[river grove]

watching the rh video and this chip seems wayyyy better than i thought yeah. rp2s form factor would go hard

[still musk]

Is it better than SD865?

[wintry pecan]

no

[nova skiff]

A78 performance cores go brrr

[thorn timber]

My hot take is the 6 button layout version is better for all retro systems other than SNES and PS1. Mostly due to the larger buttons working great for 2 button handhelds.

[river grove]

no but its so much cheaper that its insane how close to 865 it seems to get

[wintry pecan]

yeah we are approaching rg556/rp4 base levels 😄

[nova skiff]

not that hot of a take actually, I saw a render someone made with custom buttons to make it a better experience for 2 button handhelds

lemme see if I can find it

[void mortar]

It's like between D900 and D1100 from what I can tell? Closer to D1100 maybe
Ik D1100 could handle some lightweight Switch games itself

[still musk]

Its unfortunate there are no sticks on the device

[wintry pecan]

pretty much all 2d/1 stick ps2/gamecube is on the table

cuz dpad = stick more or less

[steady mortar]

One stick that all I need

[summer marsh]

I doubt it can do outrun 2006 though I'd love to be wrong. it's fairly heavy

[still musk]

By your logic, stick = Dpad then? lol

[late rock]

After seeing how this thing performs I don't think this is a joke anymore

[still musk]

Why not have all devices use only stick lol

[wintry pecan]

thats why i said "pretty much", not "all"

[brittle tiger]

MiniLED would’ve unironically killed the thing for me.

[wintry pecan]

yep, frikin zoomers play mario with a stick lol

[summer marsh]

yeah I wasn't trying to argue. though that's one I'd love on this

[summer marsh]

I mean for switch 2 lol

I wasn't talking about the classic

mini led is better than the ips in switch 2

[brittle tiger]

I’d rather sacrifice all OLED screens for the rest of my life before I ever look at another MiniLED.

[late rock]

A tad dramatic

[brittle tiger]

Good news, I’m talking about the Switch 2 as well. MiniLED sucks, it’s a poor man’s OLED that burns your eyes if you have any abnormal vision.

[summer marsh]

I'm looking at a mini led screen right now on my macbook, it's better than the ips in switch 2 from what we've seen

[plain flax]

if there is a way to enable widescreen hacks in ppsspp, i could not find it

[late rock]

It's a game by game basis afaik

[steady mortar]

Booooooooooo

[still musk]

To be fair Arcade sticks came before Dpad was invented

[steady mortar]

Booooooo

[merry mango]

I wish I had a uOLED vr headset

[wintry pecan]

those were just dpads with a stick on em 😄

[void mortar]

If the comparison between the Mini-LED on the 12.9 m series iPad Pros and the IPS on the 11 inches are anything for me to go by, Mini-LED is a step-up from IPS in most ways still, but not close to OLED

[brittle tiger]

Literally the only time MiniLED looks good to me is when you actively toggle Local Dimming to make it actively look more like IPS.

[summer marsh]

yeah which is why I said it would have been acceptible. still disappointing though going with ips with visible backlight bleed is a massive L for nintendo

[brittle tiger]

Otherwise you just get bright colors being too bright and dark colors being too dark.

[scenic lodge]

one of the worst minileds btw in apple devices

[void mortar]

If I'm gonna be charitable at all to Nintendo there, there might not be any cheap vrr Mini-LED or OLED screens of that size yet

[steady mortar]

It depends on the screen quality

[scenic lodge]

horrible backlight algorithms, bad calibration ... after them, ppls think every miniled sucks

[late rock]

I mean couldn't they commission their own? They're nintendo

[void mortar]

Do you mean in comparison to the Macbook Pro Mini-LEDs or Mini-LED in general?

[scenic lodge]

in general all of apple devices, which use it

[brittle tiger]

Nope, Local Dimming is outright the main function in MiniLED and the exact reason it has that “OLED-like function”. The biggest way a MiniLED can fuck up if by making it so there isn’t a toggle for Local Dimming.

[void mortar]

Yeah, that's... I genuinely find that an insane take.
The Mini-LEDs on the Macbook Pros are genuinely considered some of the best displays period, not just among laptops

[nova skiff]

sorry couldn't find it 😔

[summer marsh]

lotta hot takes in this thread lmao

salty hot takes

[steady mortar]

Crazy hot takes

[plain flax]

i have a cheap miniled monitor and an oled monitor next to each other. use the miniled for work stuff, oled for games

[scenic lodge]

insane, right

[steady mortar]

But I love it

[plain flax]

sometimes i just use the miniled for gaming and it looks pretty good. side by side in hdr content they dont look very different

however, if its 90% dark like those examples above, yep that happens

like dead space is unplayable on the miniled

[brittle tiger]

You’re currently talking to the person who outright loved the Odin 2 Mini for everything but a certain design choice, but still ended up selling the thing because said design choice was literally making a MiniLED device without a toggle for Local Dimming.

[brittle tiger]

Exactly.

Finally someone else actually freaking calls out that shit.

[void mortar]

Your left screen has a lot more blooming than the right screen?
Might just be your photo, but that's not doing your point any favors if you're trying to say it's better lol

[scenic lodge]

nope, that lie or just trash display moment

[modest mantle]

I'm so confused

[scenic lodge]

ur blind ...

[modest mantle]

Clearly a second language barrier

[steady mortar]

Okay odin 2 mini I was surprised that screen doesn't look as good than I was thought it's good but not those I saw in real life

[brittle tiger]

Like, for gods sake, Pimax Portal had literally only 1 sku with MiniLED and even they thought in advance to have a toggle for that.

[plain flax]

it is a trashy display, its a cheap miniled, but it actually has more local dimming zones than most other m iniled computer monitors

[modest mantle]

Just bought a used one of these

[late rock]

Doesn't the pimax portal have a 4k screen, we need that screen in other handhelds

[steady mortar]

Back to retroid pocket classic this could be switch indies

[scenic lodge]

actually the amount of zones not all what u need

[plain flax]

https://innocn.com/products/innocn-34-mini-led-curved-ultrawide-gaming-monitor-34m1r?srsltid=AfmBOoqfRkjXjfM8FRDnk2ruVLnKrmOKs090u5RGGAwUBdFa6EfDgKZs

its this one

[void mortar]

...Sure.
Don't think calling someone blind when you have nothing else worth saying is the move, but alright :p

[scenic lodge]

that was good, it use latest csot panel

probably u didnt customize it properly, if have issues in dark games

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, and that’s the exact issue I’ve always had with MiniLED, except at least most of those had a toggle available for people like me (I don’t do well with local dimming in the slightest, and when you literally can only use a screen in a manner that functionally is just an IPS that’s too bright, it’s outright worse since it’s effectively the same thing but more expensive for the same level of quality).

[steady mortar]

Ahh okay not a hot take anymore valid take

[void mortar]

Ye, that's honestly fair

[modest mantle]

And then they all came together

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

[plain flax]

nah i set it up properly. this specific monitor doesnt have any post release firmware updates and people blame that. like if im playing elden ring on it and i go from outside to a dark area with just the torch on and maybe something bright in the background, it looks just like those pictures. it would probably look fine with a software update so that it picks up the darks and lights in those situations better, but it doesnt

[scenic lodge]

it will not, firmware doesnt do that, its not bug ... it work how it should

something wrong with ur settings

[plain flax]

its funny, once you turn on hdr mode on the monitor, you literally cant change any settings other than hdr mode, adaptive sync, and response time

i cant fuck up the settings cause i cant change them

[scenic lodge]

yup, like on most of devices

[void mortar]

I've had some genuine interest on Innocn monitors and thought about saving up for one, but bit worried about the QAing.
Lot of them get mixed reviews from what I saw on Amazon

Shaders on Retroid Classic look very nice so far btw

[plain flax]

nothing to do with dimming zone control, but on the windows side i ran windows hdr calibiration, its on in windows display settings, AND im running rtx hdr on my 50 series. plus i have 2 oleds connected to this pc and turned them all on at once so can attest the hdr game image on the miniled does look great. just not at some points

[thorn timber]

Thanks for checking! I'm sure these things will resurface as people get these in there hands.

[plain flax]

another bad game is helldivers 2

[summer marsh]

Yep for sure. This is looking like such a great device

[plain flax]

there are many instances where the game is super dark with only some small bright sections, and that causes the blooming

[brittle tiger]

It’s also telling us very good things about the Mini’s fixed screen.

[late rock]

Hopefully they put all those returned minis to good use

[brittle tiger]

I can think of one person who wholeheartedly agrees with you.

Oh hey, here they are.

[delicate ermine]

man, you guys hyping the Classic and Retroid only shipped my Flip2 yet

[delicate ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-quiet-gif-8316632

[void mortar]

I hope they actually do start selling the Mini's with the fixed screen instead.
Idk if they'll simply change the Mini's photo on the website to it if they do, or sell it as a "new product" (Maybe as Mini 1.5 or Mini S?)

[plain flax]

i still like this monitor. when its working well its great. plus i can use it for work without worry. i was also worried about QA. i bought via amazon on sale and i had an issue with one, returned, and got this one. it actually turned out to be an nvidia software bug and not the monitor, but still was able to swap it easily

[summer marsh]

I'm buying an updated Mini as soon as they start selling them. if it's a refurbished Mini 1 that's fine lol

[steady mortar]

Who ever decide to hide the bezels on rp mini deserveed x10 slap

[brittle tiger]

They committed a horrendous crime and made what would’ve been a legit great handheld way worse than it had to be.

[delicate ermine]

refurbished hell nah, I would run the battery test as soon as I get it, just in case they try to fuck us over with selling re-shelled units for full price

[summer marsh]

I mean being open about it and selling as refurbished haha

[delicate ermine]

that's another story

[summer marsh]

I want one, hope they start selling them either way

[delicate ermine]

tho I would rather pay more for a brand new unit

[steady mortar]

Horrible yk after finding it was 3.92 screen the way I was upset about it

[novel crane]

Now im debating on the Mini or the Classic

The Classic is the vertical I always wanted

But the redux mini is on the way

[brittle tiger]

I was pissed off because of the sheer stupidity of the fact that literally all the issues with the screen were directly their fault, meaning all the controversies were caused by something they did on purpose, it wasn’t even “hey, they messed up and didn’t think to ask about the screen”.

[summer marsh]

that would be a tough choice for me, because yeah it's the vertical I always wanted. but updated mini way more versatile

[brittle tiger]

Honestly, unless you specifically want sticks and a vertical, I think the Classic so far might actually be legit better just for the new chip’s power efficiency being shockingly good for performance that’s only slightly worse.

[novel crane]

Mainly would lean more to the Vertical as a EDC since I have my Odin 2 and n3ds XL

[plain flax]

i feel like the mini isnt mini enough to get it over an rp5

[summer marsh]

it is if you mostly play 4:3ish games

[steady mortar]

I don't know if I want to get rp mini at all after the situation only handheld got me excited for me to buy it

[brittle tiger]

…Wait, and also Linux. Gotta remember that the Mini will have Linux out of the box, unlike the Classic where we’re pretty much dependent on Qualcomm supporting Linux.

[steady mortar]

We'll see

[summer marsh]

yeah that's a great point. it's too bad because the classic would be such a good fit for linux

[brittle tiger]

It would outright be the equivalent of making a way more powerful RG40XX V (specifically the versions with the Stick Delete Mod).

[modest mantle]

It's what I'd expect coming from a DMG. So I'm glad to see they didn't molest this one

[brittle tiger]

It would be glorious with the Classic-6. We’d finally have a 6-button Linux handheld capable of Saturn.

[summer marsh]

linux would go so hard on this. if only we can be so lucky

[novel crane]

God, linux on this would be crazy

[modest mantle]

Would be tight. Maybe one day someone will crack the g series nutt

[novel crane]

Just gotta get it into the hands of the right people to crack it open

[brittle tiger]

Welp, let’s just put it in the suggestions for Retroid, maybe they can convince Qualcomm to work on Linux Support for the new chips.

Who else would be better to get G chip Linux support soon than the guys who made the chips?

[modest mantle]

And whose other current big sellers benefit from the Linux boost

[novel crane]

God, Retroid is really making me want the classic

[merry mango]

God, Retroid is really making me want two classics

[summer marsh]

I ordered 2, waiting for you bro

[merry mango]

damnit

i feel like someone else is tinkering with the same screen right now

[summer marsh]

#1339773221175824415 message

[merry mango]

if the 6 button was all black, id easily get the 4 button dmg

but the 6 button and retro is basically the same, except the 4 dmg buttons

[brittle tiger]

Only reason I currently only got the 1 Classic-6 is because in the event I’m ever crazy enough to get a second Classic, I’m at least able to wait until after China’s weird situation to get whatever 4-button choice I want instead of feeling the need to get the 6-button.

[merry mango]

this classic is really looking like a winner to me tho

your right. ill wait for stronger aliexpress coupons

[brittle tiger]

Of course, I also am getting the Revised Mini Screen, so I’d specifically instead want the Classic-6 since it’s more unique.

[merry mango]

my rp5 is slowly becoming more of a winlator machine. this classic will be the real retro machine

...meaning i should get the RETRO clasic?!

i cornered myself

[void mortar]

The Classic is super good, but it’s not what I want.
Though there’s a chance I’ll buy it as a gift for one of my family members at some point

[brittle tiger]

Get the Classic-6 to play some classic games.

[delicate ermine]

but ugly grey bezzles

we really need an all black Classic 6

[brittle tiger]

There you go, I got you out of the corner.

[merry mango]

thats the one i got

[brittle tiger]

So now you regret nothing again.

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[merry mango]

watch them release classic with s865 in all black, same price as mini

[eager rain]

with some grey buttons so it isn't too boring

grey xyz and red start

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/spittin-spitting-has-a-reason-gif-10938494213162386020

[delicate ermine]

rejected, it's a SATURN device, not Mega Drive

[eager rain]

the classic 6 already gives us a saturn colourway and the saturn wasn't even really a thing in the americas while the genesis sold like hotcakes, let us new worlders have one

[merry mango]

make a neogeo version: 4 buttons horizontally

[delicate ermine]

no, I want all black everything

[brittle tiger]

If it comes with the Neo Geo Pocket thumbstick, I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

[eager rain]

that (and a matching all white 4 button version) would be the best way to snipe analogue pocket buyers

[glass orbit]

where were all those saturn fans when the console was out

US sales:
PS1 40.8 M
N64 20.1 M
Saturn 1.8 M

[brittle tiger]

Don’t ask us, Sega had cowardice in their hearts and thought Segata wouldn’t work in the US.

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-karate-taekwando-gif-4880719

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-mask-santa-claus-gif-5612079

[summer marsh]

I got a saturn used in late 1997 for dirt cheap. so didn't exactly help it's sales 😅

[wintry pecan]

poor from buying the first 2

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sakura-wars-sakura-taisen-sega-saturn-sakura-sakura-shinguji-gif-27294025

[delicate ermine]

I mean, it's not just about Saturn, all black just looks sleek and quite frankly the layout lends itself nicely to 2 button systems like Gameboy

[frank plinth]

Couldn't catch the live stream... Any look at shaders on 32-bit and below?

[summer marsh]

yep game boy color looking tight

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/sega-segata-sanshiro-commercial-judo-gif-14474645112911386185

[late rock]

All black looks so good

[frank plinth]

I'm excited for PS1 with some extra headroom for CRT shaders.

[delicate ermine]

honestly if they would remove the lettering from the Classic 6 in black and make what is now labeled as B/C a nice red, that would be peak for me

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-soccer-haha-no-goal-funny-gif-17100498

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-strangle-shenmue-stangle-fight-retro-game-gif-25709818

[brittle tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/segata-sanshiro-segata-sanshiro-project-x-gif-20727692587778559

Before you ask, yes, this is real and not a romhack or edit.

They actually put Segata in a game where he fought alongside Dante, Chrom, and Kazuma Kiryu.

[summer marsh]

oh crazy I've never seen that

developed by monolith soft, wow

[tame raft]

I keep telling myself it would have been too big if I hadnt cancelled my order and my teal classic arrived ahead of tarrifs somehow.

I mean, I am fairly certain it would have been too big looking at it. But at the same time I really like the look of the thing and would have gladly used it if possible

[spark solar]

I’m watching the retroid classic stream. If I try to buy one right now am I paying 100+% tarrifs?

[tame raft]

I believe so, assuming they actually take effect. Which with how up in the air everything is who knows?

[spark solar]

Damn ok

Anyone smuggling?

[summer marsh]

they said on the stream if you order one of the colorways they're shipping and pay for dhl you should be good

[late rock]

On it 🫡

[spark solar]

Oh that’s smart, I was thinking I had to go all the way to China

Canadá is like maybe 8 hours from me

[tame raft]

At this point I am planning a trip to Indonesia in december, if I could work out a way to get a ton of chinese handhelds and bring them back to the states believe me I would pack an extra suitcase just for that.

[surreal gyro]

I guess I need to find someone in BC canada

not too far for me

[tame raft]

I have family in western Washington around Seattle, believe me I have begun working out ways to make it work

[surreal gyro]

That's the area I reside in haha

There's a driver that comes to my work from BC like 4 days a week. I wonder if I can convince him...

[river grove]

yeah i really want the classic now lol. the 6 button probably

[tame raft]

“Hey there bud. How would you feel about ordering a Chinese knockoff gameboy and bringing it to work to give to me in exchange for monies?”

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[scenic lodge]

865, G1, 8300

[summer marsh]

yep this chip is great. they really should make a horizontal rp2s successor. though they might not want to release that and updated mini with the same screen

[scenic lodge]

so it outperform T820/900 and lose to 1100, insane

[void mortar]

Mini 1.5 as mid tier option, updated 2s as budget option maybe

[scenic lodge]

almost Dimenity 1000+/855+ in single core ...

[glass orbit]

gpu not looking so hot though

[scenic lodge]

3d mark just dont understand what it test now

need to wait update app, its normal

[late rock]

oh yeah im def adding the telescopic controller now

[merry mango]

Are the adreno drivers interchangeable with one another? Or do adreno gpus have their own specific drivers?

Basically I’m just wondering if the G2 can use the custom drivers or will it just use the default Qualcomm drivers

Ok looks like they’re not chip specific. Here’s hoping the G2 can use em well 👍

Really really looking forward to this classic

[junior fox]

😳😳

This can run F Zero GX?!

[robust granite]

americans really fiending for those colours they wont be able to get lol.

[rocky sedge]

Gonna have to take a trip to China and smuggle some back in my carry-on bag

[summer marsh]

Can't believe this SoC is beetle saturn capable after all, what a nice surprise. Looks like some heavier games aren't quite fullspeed but I'm happy with what I've seen

[robust granite]

more than I had any plans for tbh lol

I just wanted it bcz nice screen and enough power under the hood to run some good shaders and have a better build quality.

but now im like.....what games on GC/PS2/WII actually do work well on this thing?

[lunar pecan]

capping the resolution to 720p should also help

[merry mango]

now you have to buy three

[summer marsh]

Beetle Saturn doesn’t upscale

[summer marsh]

lol 2 is already stupid

[robust granite]

ngl. if they did the 6 button in genesis black.....

[summer marsh]

Yeah for sure, even if just for black bezels. Grey bezels on the Saturn model is annoying

[merry mango]

i will wait for the black classic as my second classic.......

[summer marsh]

you'd get two 6 button models?

[merry mango]

i would sell the saturn 6 button and get the retro 4 button to go along with that black 6 button lmao

[summer marsh]

we need therapy

[robust granite]

tbh yeah, the black bezels on an oled are just clean

[merry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[robust granite]

Im trying not to do this....but its so tempting lol

teal.....or pokemon......lol

[summer marsh]

both are nice

tbh I like all of the colorways more or less

[robust granite]

yeah. Its really just those two are the ones I have childhood memories of lol

[modest mantle]

videos today sealed my yellow pick

[robust granite]

yellow was locked in from the renders but the real units....look amazing and match so well.

[pseudo dove]

I’ll watch the vid later but what’s the tldr so far on the classic?

[merry mango]

its looking to be a winner, so much so that youll wanna buy two of em

[pseudo dove]

God damn

How’s the performance and comfort ? ??

[robust granite]

comfort is supposedly better than the pocket dmg.

performance is better than it has any right to be at that price and for what its actually gonna be able to play lol

should be able to play some GC and PS2. (technically some Switch seems playable as well but I wouldnt)

[ornate sail]

Great that Stubbs&co did a videi so quickly. But 3:30 is too nuch for me. Long story short :

• Any flaw ?
• Dpad and buttons OK ?
• Beetle Saturn ready ?

[robust river]

no yes yes

just watched it

[robust granite]

I dont recall any specific flaws.....yet....
dpad same as previous units, buttons really good
yes

[robust river]

also plays gamecube and ps2 (if youd want to with no sticks) if not there shoule be plenty of headroom for shaders

benchmarks are similar to RP4P

[gaunt cargo]

Quick update: My RP Classic First Look vid needs a little more time to cook (after our livestream discoveries), releases in 12-ish hours

[wintry pecan]

does it taste good?

[gaunt cargo]

[robust river]

Im sure it will only get better too with time since its a new chip

[gaunt cargo]

Better than a switch cart, not as good as a pizza

[robust river]

Im eating dominos stuffed crust as we speak

[gaunt cargo]

Praise be

[robust granite]

chain pizza? im so sorry for you lol.

[wintry pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/will-it-blend-blendtec-blender-blend-blending-gif-14856253

[robust granite]

depending where you live anyways.

[gaunt cargo]

I love this guy

[robust river]

Any free pizza is good pizza

[robust granite]

ah that does change things.

[wintry pecan]

shame he stopped making them

i miss the "is it a good idea to microwave this?" channel too

[robust granite]

I was literally about to mention that.

[wintry pecan]

[robust granite]

I still remember the one where they microwaved the airbag lol

[robust river]

does the RP classic pass the sniff test?

Thats prolly a Cwis question

[robust granite]

reading this question actually had me do a really stupid google search on how to scent plastics lol

just got way too many answers about scenting soft plastic lures for fishing tho lol

[ornate sail]

I wad hesitating between 6 buttons and black bezels (can’t have both unfortunately). If it is Saturn Beetle ready, then the 6 buttons really makes more sense to me as a super versatile 8-32 bits console. I was afraid of something imbalanced with a controls not matching the processing power. Good that they didn’t screw that.

And is the speaker indeed very good ? Retro music and sounds are a big part of the pleasure to me.

[robust granite]

supposedly yes. but cant tell from the stream since everything was getting noise gated.

[ornate sail]

Thanks. But @gaunt cargo didn’t mention anything about speaker sound ? And fan noise… not RP5 level ?

[robust river]

He mentioned the speaker

[robust granite]

again, he did, but you cant tell the quality from the stream.

[gaunt cargo]

I mentioned it a few times, with a speaker test as well, but it will be very hard to hear on stream. My video coming out shortly will share that better.

Really solid, especially with GBC games. Pops. Nice bass in that you feel it in your hands, well defined treble, decent mids.

[robust river]

Now we need a Stubbs Nubbs dpad edition

[gaunt cargo]

Fan noise also covered

Quieter than RP5

Fan isn't really needed unless you're doing sustained high end stuff

[robust river]

Im so stoked. Day 1 preorder, but still hasnt shipped

[gaunt cargo]

Also waiting on my retail 😄

I got the Retro color

[robust river]

I hope it gets here before the cutoff

I had Kiwi, but had to change

so now atomic purple

[robust granite]

I was just waiting on review units to be sent out.

[gaunt cargo]

Me too, likely should, even orders made today but we're starting to get close to the cut-off for ordering safely

[robust granite]

I really think I should get Teal.

[robust river]

Cant if you are in the US

[gaunt cargo]

I would not order after 4/20, and if you're in the US you can't order Teal / Kiwi or Berry

[robust river]

big sad.

[robust granite]

you guys really dont need to repeat this every 5 minutes.

[gaunt cargo]

They will offer for you to change your color option

[robust granite]

im not american

[robust river]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-woah-hold-up-wait-gif-5693923

I didnt know that

[robust granite]

its been talked about nonstop about americans being unable to get the 3 colours.

[wintry pecan]

its more like they want you to change if you dont want tariffs

[gaunt cargo]

We're the center of the universe 😂

[wintry pecan]

they never said you HAVE to change

[robust river]

They just flat out arent shipping anything to the US after the 25th unless that changed very recently

[robust granite]

you sure about that?

[cold shell]

Actually, it is implied that you'll have to change if you want a unit because shipping will be suspended

[wintry pecan]

dhl hasnt stopped shipping yet, i dunno where chris gets his info

[robust granite]

might want to re-read the second sentence of the big paragraph.

[robust river]

[gaunt cargo]

Yeah unfortunately they will not get shipped if you got those colors is what I understood

[robust river]

may wanna go research that a bit more.

[gaunt cargo]

Its been a world of confusion

Every day the rules change

[robust granite]

dang discord replying to the wrong msg.

[robust river]

Chinas answer to the tariff hike was to suspend shipping to the US

[gaunt cargo]

I don't think its worth arguing over other than to clarify

[wintry pecan]

OVER 800

[robust river]

yeah.

[robust granite]

not even the correct date thats being talked about.

[robust river]

just let them figure it out

[wintry pecan]

thats the most up to date dhl info, again, dunno where chris is getting his info

maybe he has other info, from info i can see, hes wrong

[robust granite]

I'd probably listen to the company telling people they should change their order on the chance they wont get sent out.

[robust granite]

from retroid.

[robust river]

[wintry pecan]

chris announcement is specifically that shippers arent shipping

[robust granite]

this has to be a troll

theres no way he's arguing against the staff involved lol

[wintry pecan]

yall have really poor reading comprehension i stg

[robust river]

Theres articles everywhere about it too

[robust granite]

gotta be living under a rock to not know about it.

[wintry pecan]

im well aware the rest of the shippers in china stopped entirely lol

or iwll stop

dhl hasnt said they will stop orders under 800

please pull up where it says that

i wanna see it

[robust granite]

you realize shipping is done by more than one company. jesus christ....

[wintry pecan]

retroid uses 4px and dhl only for america

other locals may or may not use other things

[robust granite]

not talking "locals" im talking the actual ocean freight companies completely haulting ships.

[cold shell]

I'd imagine working for a company that deals directly with shipping providers gets more up-to-date info that what gets announced publicly.

[wintry pecan]

i also cant find anything where 4px said they are stopping either

[wintry pecan]

yeah, thats all im saying
it seems chris has non public info

dhl or 4px hasnt announced it publicly yet

[cold shell]

And we should trust this announcement unless stated otherwise, IMHO

[wintry pecan]

if dhl or 4px dont actually suspend orders, you CAN keep your order if you wanna pay tariffs i guess

i also expect tariffs to be gone or very reduced by mid next week

[robust granite]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/16/trade-war-fallout-china-freight-ship-decline-begins-orders-plummet.html

thats the issue right there.

[cold shell]

Yeah but that's a gamble. Changing order colour is (almost) guaranteed shipment prior to shipment suspensions

[wintry pecan]

yeah, none of these handhelds are shipped on a ship

they are all air mail

[sage silo]

All goes well I'm going to be enjoying my Retroid on Tuesday

[robust granite]

https://www.aircargonews.net/data-news/china-to-us-tonnages-down-with-dozens-of-e-commerce-flights-cancelled/1079692.article

Im done trying to explain things though if you just wanna be a moron arguing for the sake of aruging....

[sage silo]

No reason to doom over it tbh

[robust granite]

the company themselves and their representative explained the situation and you are saying NUH UH!

[wintry pecan]

so this is from febuary for one
and yhes, they cancel flights if they dont fill them with packages

[sage silo]

Either it ships just fine or it gets held back. DHL is estimating Tuesday for me

[wintry pecan]

the only moron here is you

[robust river]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[cold shell]

Chill y'all

[wintry pecan]

im wondering if he even read the articles he linked tho

[robust river]

oh im chill lol I actually havent laughed this hard in a long time

[cold shell]

Fact is, Retroid says, at this point, if you want a Classic, you gotta change the colour. That is all. No point arguing beyond that.

Tariff or not, change colour if you want a unit at all.

[robust river]

I changed mine as soon as that announcement popped.

[cold shell]

Or if you really want a late colour unit, contact or make friends with someone in S. Korea or Japan to proxy ship for you.

[robust river]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[cold shell]

Before everyone else realise that you can just proxy-ship without tariffs

[delicate ermine]

me just waiting on my forbidden colors to ship

[wintry pecan]

thats smuggling

[cold shell]

No that's not. Proxy shipping is perfectly legal.

[robust granite]

its only smuggling if you dont pay the tariffs.

[cold shell]

People do it all the time for domestic-only products from other countries

[wintry pecan]

yeah you cant skip the tariffs

[cold shell]

Of course you can.

[robust river]

I think they are illegal colors now

[robust granite]

technically you can. and there are loopholes. lol.

but bringing the forbidden colours into the states isnt inherently smuggling lol

[cold shell]

Ship a unit to a friend in South Korea and Japan. And having your friend ship it from there, your device gets a new point of origin. There's no tariffs on those countries at the moment.

[robust granite]

not quite....its still made in china and seen as such.

[cold shell]

Well tariffs are applied to products SHIPPED from China, not MADE in China.

[wintry pecan]

if you buy from your friend in euroipe who improted it months ago, sure, thats fine, cuz its a used item

"drop shipping" type stuff is illegal

[cold shell]

Yeah well American companies having their HQ in Ireland to pay less tax is technically tax evasion in the US but it's also perfectly legal and not labelled as tax evasion since they HQ is outside US jurisdiction.

[wintry pecan]

yeah well you dont have corporate lawyers 😄

[robust granite]

the easiest "grey area" method would be to have someone in a canadian border city buy one. cross the border with it as "personal property" though good luck convincing anyone to do that lol.

[cold shell]

Nah. You have good friends. And surely the whole US government aren't going to rain hellfire down on you for a $120 device

[robust river]

I dunno I smell a new business opportunity cooking

[cold shell]

Hey hey hey. That's us Aussies. We don't hae to pay VAT or taxes either for importing

[delicate ermine]

drone strikes incoming

[cold shell]

Proxy shipping about to boom

[robust granite]

same in canada lol.

[robust river]

Brb gotta book a flight.

[robust granite]

not worth the effort tho. tbh. bcz large numbers would get flagged as legit smuggling and thats a no-no.

[robust river]

well I am joking

[robust granite]

and who is gonna wanna cross the border to deliver like 1 or 2 of them when crossing is gonna cost 12 bucks, plus gas lol. gotta make it worth while lol

[robust river]

its just sad is all that thats what its coming to

[robust granite]

yeah.

[robust river]

because pissing contest

[delicate ermine]

honestly, you Americans deserve it, just because I'm still salty that the AVS ain't ships to Germany but every country around us

[wintry pecan]

hopefully im right and tariffs are gone or reduced a lot by next week
otherwise time to watch stocks shit again

[robust granite]

you cant complain. you can drive or catch a train and get to other countries pretty quick lol

[wintry pecan]

yeah it would take me 3 hours to go 5 miles in america lol

[delicate ermine]

yeah, but I would have to have an address I can order it to there

which I don't

[robust river]

Not all americans deserve it. Just certain voters imo

[robust granite]

you dont have postal services to do that?

in border cities here, theres usually companies that make money allowing you to have mail delivered to their adress in your name. so you can cross, pick it up, and go home.

really handy when something only ships within the USA for some god forsaken reason lol.

[delicate ermine]

not that I'm aware off at least

it's not like it would be normal that anything that gets into the EU only ships to specific countries

which kinda makes it insane with the AVS, never encountered shit like that

[cold shell]

Just make friends. It ain't that hard. Say hi and boom, BFFs.

[robust river]

What if I just dont like people.

[wintry pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-stressed-spongebob-squarepants-stress-sick-gif-5357573

[robust granite]

theres a mail service right across the border that charges a flat 5 dollar pickup fee to have your parcels shipped there. so I can cross, pick up things I cant get shipped to me. lol

[cold shell]

Never said you had to like them.

[robust granite]

lame. but yeh, its a popular thing here. lol some stuff just doesnt shipp cross border, and some places charge insane prices to do so. (not even duty fees, those on top of the insane shipping)

[delicate ermine]

welp, I just got an rg405v, so that's something, I guess

[robust granite]

for now.

[delicate ermine]

idk why I even bought it, given how I already have the 406v

but the DMG color for cheap, why not

[robust river]

Maybe ill wait til next month to sell my Odin 2

should be easy to get $450 for it

[robust granite]

sell it for 500 dollars bundled with mario kart.

[silver shadow]

Classic added to the delivery dashboard: https://www.goretroid.com/pages/delivery-dashboard

[robust river]

yeah but not updated

[delicate ermine]

Kiwi/Teal and Berry are still a week away anyway

[robust granite]

Im curious if there will be extra kiwi/teal/berry units now and that late pre-orders and regular orders will be quicker lol.

[delicate ermine]

honestly doubt it, they most likely cancelled all Kiwi/Teal/Berry shells they had orders for from the US and Classic6/Retro/Pokémon should be the vastly available colors, which would have shipped first anyway

[thick isle]

They ain’t build to order and those plastic shell are dirt cheap.

[cerulean plinth]

Assuming they don't ship on the weekends?

[versed pelican]

I should be receiving my review unit in the next couple of days. 😇

[distant ledge]

astrein! 😛 btw, I like the new logo

[versed pelican]

Thanks man! 💜

[frank plinth]

After seeing the chip in action, really bummed this didn't get dock support w/ video out.

I'm still excited to get mine, but docked with a slew of 8bitdo controllers would make this extra versatile.

[river grove]

how's the mouthfeel?

[solemn sentinel]

It's very tasty

[frank grove]

Got the updated info, Dhl is delivering it Monday

[brittle tiger]

Yup, I’m honestly still shocked by the single core performance.

[novel crane]

Maaaaan

I really want this device

Everything is making it look like one of the best verticals this year

[floral current]

[scenic lodge]

hope its not best handheld of this year, and we will see somthing exact but horizontal soon

🥹

[floral current]

Glad I got the Saturn version

[novel crane]

My only gripes are that I wish they headphone jack or USB-C port was at the bottom

[novel crane]

You getting that with the refreshed Mini

Since Retroid pulled the mini and is planning on reselling it with the proper screen ratio

[scenic lodge]

hope so

[wild beacon]

so it looks like this chip was a surprise huh

they should make more handhelds with it

[scenic lodge]

it just created for it

G series if/when has driver support (turnip) it would blame everything

[covert star]

In case you didn’t know…

I saw a review video yesterday of the Classic, showing a toggle setting that switches the dpad to stick input. It also had some additional settings. Helpful for games that don’t take dpad input.

[novel crane]

Well, Qualcomm's intent is the push more gaming centric devices, so it makes sense for something like this to have the chip. Now im really interested to see what the possible new G-Cloud would do with a chip like this

[floral current]

Like N64 and Saturn yes

[covert star]

Anybody know if winlator for native pico8 would run on this?

[scenic lodge]

should

[river grove]

yeah i really want this now lol, wasnt anticipating the level of performance. hope this chip shows up in other form factors, seems great

[novel crane]

I want this in the G-Cloud 2

Or G2 gen 1/2

[river grove]

yeah this would be great for a g cloud

[novel crane]

Also, for those who are wondering: Video out wasn't a choice made by Retroid, the chipset legit can't support it iirc

[river grove]

oh thats unfortunate

[twin shale]

https://youtu.be/L1W7o-y7orA

Honestly bigger than expected

[modest mantle]

Pretty sure I they'll just cancel it. Or hold on to your money until the day they can ship again, in 2026

[novel crane]

God the Contra test looks so good on this device

[dusty marsh]

Ayn Odin 2 Portal is the closest we're getting, sadly.

[cerulean plinth]

[novel crane]

For those who don't have the time to watch Russ's video

Also something to note: I don't think this will be a Gamecube and PS2 machine, even outside control arguments. A good chunk of things run native, but it does have hiccups and slowdown here and there

[river grove]

yeah im not expecting to play everything but if it can run some jrpgs and 2d games thats value. definitely "bonus" systems tho for sure

but gc especially looks a lot better than i was expecting

[summer marsh]

watching the RGC review now, it's not playing rogue squadron II at fullspeed but it's honestly crazy how well it was playing. that game is hard to run

god of war ii playing pretty well too

I think it's actually pretty capable for those systems given those 2 games

[novel crane]

Tbh, for what I want to do with this, it's really amazing that it can do it well

[river grove]

yeah im curious how well a bunch of the ps2 jrpg library runs, this could be a great rpg machine. most of those games dont really need sticks

[dusty marsh]

Isn't setting up the handheld the reason majority of people buy these things? 😂

[river grove]

could be some fun playable 3ds stuff too, havent really seen anyone test 3ds much yet but there's a lot of d-pad friendly games there

screen isnt great for it tho i guess

[novel crane]

Platformers, JRPGs and RPGs, Fighting games, Arcade games, and for the 6 button, especially Genesis and Saturn games make this device worth the value! Oled is a nice perk too

[covert star]

Got my headphones ready for the Classic!

Pokemon Yellow anyone?

[dusty marsh]

Seems the pocket dmg is the way to go for ps2, GameCube and beyond. Outside of aesthetics there really is no comparison, especially in regards to chipset or price.

[summer marsh]

I doubt it would run fullspeed but you could play mgs2 with dpad haha

[dusty marsh]

Glad to see mgs2 being looked at fondly these days.

[novel crane]

Ooooo I love that

[novel crane]

Man, I gotta play MGS2

[dusty marsh]

It's dope, I still recall buying Z.O.E. just for that MGS2 demo disc.

[summer marsh]

Do it! It's a classic. It's definitely a crazy game and worth your time even if the pacing in the middle is a little off

[novel crane]

Man, all these YT comments are gonna make my head spin. Not everything needs to be a GCN/PS2 machine nor have sticks. Besides, we have so many devices as is that can do that with ease

[dusty marsh]

Gaming didn't exist until the ps2 and GameCube, ovviously. /s

[summer marsh]

well tbh I thought it was strange that russ put gpu performance as a negative in the review. gcn/ps2 performance on this is impressive and a nice bonus but I feel like an SoC that focuses on single core perf is perfect for this machine

[novel crane]

Reason he did is mainly cause he's a bit concerned about higher Shaders and such

[dusty marsh]

The setting up part being a negative was interesting. Never found android to be that difficult and a lot of people get enjoyment getting games and emulators running just right. But I do need to finish the eentire review to be fair.

[summer marsh]

well he has said he personally prefers linux though he tries to be relatively unbiased with reviews. I hate setting up android too lol

[dusty marsh]

Fair enough. Linux is def more straight forward.

[summer marsh]

I assume he only put it as a negative for this device because the form factor and lack of sticks kind of lend themselves to a linux os more. imo of course

anyways I ordered 2 of these like a moron so it doesn't bother me that much, I'm sure I can get a nice setup on this

[forest vessel]

Fr. I was considering this to replace my Miyoo mini + for the oled screen and battery life

[dusty marsh]

Not moronic at all, game on and enjoy my brother. 🤘❤️

[dusty marsh]

The RH stream at the end made me reconsider the 40xx h when being directly compared to the classic 😂

[robust granite]

I mean, he also made a complaint that a handheld android emulator needed setup. always take reviewers opinions with a grain of salt, or a cup...lol

[summer marsh]

well no shade towards Russ at all from me, I really appreciate him and his reviews. we don't have to agree on everything!

[spring verge]

Being able to run Beetle Saturn with shaders is already more than I was expecting to have

[robust granite]

yeah they knocked it outta the park with that chipset from the looks of it.

[spring verge]

ngl I am a bit annoyed that it's Android but that's just because it always feels like a chore to set everything up compared to Linux, lol

[cold shell]

Well the good news is that there are many, many Linux-based handhelds out there

[modest mantle]

Haha. If only

Think if all chips were unlocked for Linux it'd be more the case of trying to get android on something for the rare instance of android gaming

[forest vessel]

Do we know why the gpu performance is jank on this device? Driver bug perhaps?

[novel crane]

No, the chip is actually made for game streaming

[cold shell]

Probably. Cons of using a new chip.

[novel crane]

Not for heavy duty android games

[cold shell]

Always not a great idea to buy devices using new chips in this hobby.

8G2 is probably the latest optimised chip. And that's what, 2 years old?

[novel crane]

2 to 3 years old

[cold shell]

Yeah give the Classic 2-3 years before it becomes tip-top for gaming with the only limitation being hardware

[novel crane]

Also let's be fair, Qualcomm is actively pushing people to use these chips for gaming, so I hope they do get more use so they can get proper development

[robust granite]

dunno why you would wait 2-3 years to use it for what its gonna be good at.

[novel crane]

And not just abandoned them when they're bored of them

[robust granite]

maybe on other devices but....its kinda silly to say "oh Im gonna wait for better performance" when a huge portion using it for low spec systems with shaders.

[nova skiff]

I'm here thinking the chip couldn't be any more perfect for this device lol. the only thing I'm wishing for is a slider (at least for the 6 button version) but really checks all other boxes

oh and it would be nice if it came in black

[robust granite]

n64 reasons?

[nova skiff]

yup

some saturn games benefit from an analog as well

[robust granite]

yeah that too. lol

[cold shell]

Oh I'm not saying wait that long before buying the device. It's not a great idea IMO. But doesn't mean it's unusable. I'm saying don't expect pristine performance until 2-3 years' time.

[robust granite]

its already punching way above its price point as it is lol.

but yeah once ppl figure the chipset out.

if they bother to lol

[cold shell]

Definitely. If I didn't already buy the Flip 2, this would be a nice vertical device to have

[robust granite]

I think it still is, specifically for what I want it for.
Im still on a 4pro rn, but I wanted a good quality device to play 4:3 and low spec games with shaders on a better matching screen lol. the extra power is just such a bonus for very specific games lol

[river grove]

im suspicious that they did actually make the chip for emulation lol it seems weirdly optimized for single-core cpu performance (which is usually what matters most for emulation) if its supposed to be for streaming. but they wouldnt say that in the press release

[robust granite]

Im really curious about the battery life on the chipset. it sounded impressive yesterday. but I cant wait for more concrete numbers.

[robust granite]

in theory both benefit from good single core performance.

that being said. I dont know of many devices that "struggle" at doing streaming. I could be completely ignorant to something specific tho.

[river grove]

yeah. also its only wifi 5. feel like if it was really for streaming theyd have cut more corners on cpu performance and given it better wifi

but i dont know enough about this stuff to back up anything i say lmao im just spitballing

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Happy I ordered both this and the flip when I did

Gonna have to hold me over for a bit

[merry mango]

Since this G2 was meant to be fanless, prolly could overclock it down the line as the classic got active cooling

Have there been any mods for the retroid dpad? Like make it taller or feel more like a floating/dome dpad?

[robust granite]

why modify a perfect dpad? lol

[floral current]

Not personally fond of the retroid dpads

Nothing objectively wrong with them

Just not my jam

[twin shale]

They're ok

[wild beacon]

thank god, I thought I was alone

I'm tired of pretending that clicky vita dpads are the be all end all when it comes to dpads

[river grove]

yeah i dont like that style of dpad especially for retro stuff. wish they used a different dpad on this specifically cuz 6 buttons would otherwise be great for fighting games but i dont like the retroid dpad for them

feels like i have to get out of my way to hit the diagonals when doing motion inputs, they dont just naturally happen

[scenic lodge]

prediction when 3356, H700 will end? and they will use somthing normal (at least p60) realy hope it was 1-2y

[river grove]

i think we'll still see those chipsets in the really budget line but the flood of a527s and g99s is about to start... but if those aren't cheap enough they're going to have a hard time competing with this

[scenic lodge]

527 cheap, but g99 idk

Sinyorksu (GameMT) should know

[river grove]

and p65 too

[scenic lodge]

gamecube/ps2 emulation for +-100$ would be great, and will invate more ppls to comunity i think
old platforms more for geeks i think

[floral current]

99% of the time dpads on handhelds have compromise for low profile/small form factor. Retroid dpads just compromise in the worst ways possible. Best D-pads I’ve used are the anbernic snes and sega dpads

[river grove]

the new anbernic snes dpad is really good. the old one (like 353 and before) has a lot of false diagonals

[floral current]

Yeah the new ones are good

[river grove]

but from i think 35xx+ on its been better

[floral current]

Love the cube/406H sega dish

[river grove]

yeah i need to get something with that

[river grove]

Idk we barely have good N64/DC/psp under $100 new lol let's get that first. Upcoming wave of devices should hopefully hit that consistently

[summer marsh]

yeah it seems like the heaviest saturn games are running at like 55fps. so likely room for optimization

[scenic lodge]

isnt it was like 2 year ago already?

[merry mango]

Found a reason for having two classics: stereo sound

[scenic lodge]

i didnt know exact, i was not focusing on handhelds, just started

[river grove]

Depends how you define "good" tbh but by my definition no

[merry mango]

Otherwise russ’ comments on the smaller 6 buttons do sound like they may make normal 4 button games a bit awkward

[river grove]

If someone wants a handheld primarily for N64 I'm probably still recommending them something that's at least $100 new. Wouldn't recommend a 3566 or h700 for it

[scenic lodge]

3566 2gb ram able to play psp x2 with right core, its not be avaliable for 100$ 2y.o ago?

[summer marsh]

yeah I hadn't considered that and it worries me slightly. though I think I can get used to it

[scenic lodge]

would be great if somone tell or show where i can see some devices which are change the rules in game (price/performance) bad english ik 🇺🇦

[river grove]

not full library x2, some games sure. and yeah 3566s with 2 gb of ram were $100 or over 2 years ago

[scenic lodge]

so i was right, and we are moving slowly

😢

[river grove]

i mean there's been huge huge advances in the $150-200 range but yeah the low end is moving slowly

this is a big leap forward in sub-$150 tho which is pretty exciting

[scenic lodge]

🤔 alr e6max after this just insane seems like ... (70$) helegaly could be too

[river grove]

yeah e6max and other a527 handhelds are a big deal

but we're getting pretty off topic lol lets get back to the retroid classic

[frosty snow]

What cores/systems should we expect comes installed from default, will PS2 be there with some ROMs ?

[nova skiff]

retroid doesn't ship their handhelds with roms included

[frosty snow]

Oh ok

[nova skiff]

yup be sure to prepare your collection in advance if you're interested

[frosty snow]

The bios is the more confusing part for me ...

[brittle tiger]

It’s about what I expected when comparing the screen size to the same thing on the DMG.

[twin shale]

Honestly it's the first device I'd consider an actual upgrade from the miyoo mini plus

I think it'll be a hit

[robust granite]

not available anymore but wasnt that like....what the rp2s did well at that price point?

[river grove]

yeah but it wasnt really under $100 after shipping afaik unless there were sales maybe?

[robust granite]

if you are arguing shipping makes a $100 handheld unattainable tho.....

[river grove]

no but im arguing it was at least $100 new

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, I think he usually bases his negatives on stuff that he thinks would bother other people more than himself, since he listed the clear Flip 2 showing the insides as a nitpick despite him actually enjoying when clear devices do that.

[robust granite]

like I get that its nice to have cheap devices. but they already are pretty cheap at that point.

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[river grove]

and since they stopped selling the rp2s there's kind of a big gap between the like sub $80 handhelds and the $150+ ones. this is the first thing in a while to fill that

[robust granite]

why.....would someone buy a clear console if they dont want to see the internals....

[brittle tiger]

No, it’s actually performing remarkably well for what the expected performance was. Most of the GPU issues were directly related to systems people weren’t even expecting to use on this device.

[robust granite]

yeah thats what I was thinking rn. the 2s was kinda relevant still

but also, keep in mind inflation is a thing. but also improved tech. so like....

[brittle tiger]

Don’t ask me, I also love that about clear shells. It’s stupid imo, but I have seen people complain about it, so I don’t blame Russ for adding it in as “something to keep in mind”.

[robust granite]

I just mean its a really stupid and obvious thing that shouldnt have to be brought up since its that blatantly obvious.

its like saying. dont buy the blue handheld if you dont like blue.

[brittle tiger]

So, while I’d hope they can get drivers updated for future devices with the chip and make sure support for them is accessible, I’m not personally planning on doing too much GC or PS2 on this thing.

[river grove]

yeah i imagine that might factor in for native android gaming too?

and maybe really high end shaders

[robust granite]

tbh, most the ones that I would want to play anyways, already probably run pretty solidly on it (in theory)

I think native andoid gaming needs to be explored more, since thats more reliant on the GPU.

[brittle tiger]

Same here, but given what’s happened the last times he’s offered a personal opinion that contradicted others, I can’t blame him for deliberately being Captain Obvious.

[robust granite]

what happened?

[lunar pecan]

My Trials of Mana session has been getting stuttery again when I save open the menu on my r36s :/

Prob good time to get the classic

[pseudo dove]

So is this good????

[twin shale]

Looking like it will be

[robust granite]

in theory. first impressions are barely out.

[brittle tiger]

Well, there’s what happened with the Miyoo Flip before the hinge issue started (so people were only complaining about it looking “cheap”).

[robust granite]

oh wait. was he the one saying it feeling cheap was good?

I see so many reviews for these things, they all blend together.

[brittle tiger]

Nope, he directly was talking about how it looked, and even complained about it feeling bad for one of the models but feeling nicer on another color (since he felt there shouldn’t be that much of a variance in how the same device feels).

[robust granite]

that sounds reasonable? how did that cuase him to become captain obvious about clear shells being clear?

[brittle tiger]

Because people, or more accurately Reddit, disagreed in pretty much the exact way you can expect from that site.

[robust granite]

I recall someone saying it felt cheap but they liked it? which is against how I feel but thats an opinion so.

[twin shale]

Reddit people aren't real tbf

[summer marsh]

not necessarily, I've seen some clear handhelds that just looked ugly af with some hideous battery label visible in the back. It definitely didn't look as good as say an atomic purple gbc

feels like this argument is way overly reductive

[twin shale]

See normal human being vs angry reddit sub

[delicate ermine]

it performs way better than anticipated, given that it even nearly pulls the benchmark games for GCN/PS2... the question is, how bad is the GPU actually? like compared to the Helio G99 for example

[brittle tiger]

They seemed pretty real to people in here a while ago.

[twin shale]

Sorry I mean reddit opinions are not at all indicative of normal opinions. It's best to tune them out as much as possible

[brittle tiger]

Despite me actively warning people against trusting them for even longer.

[brittle tiger]

I fully agree, hence my annoyance towards them for the past multiple months.

[robust granite]

bcz it becomes an echo chamber one way or another. at least here, if we disagree, nobody gets burried for it.

I mean, everything is at least a bit of one.

[twin shale]

No shit it's the upvote system

[robust granite]

yeah.

[twin shale]

It makes people seek being "right" or having validation more then genuine conversation

[brittle tiger]

Until we can get some more accurate tests we won’t know for sure, and until we get good drivers (either from Qualcomm in an update, or from turnip), I’d only look at the Classic as a really good 5th-Gen and under device.

[robust granite]

yeah, like nobody gets burried or hated for having the incorrect opinion of disliking the retroid d-pad 😛

jokes asside tho, theres more willingess to talk about things lol

[delicate ermine]

I mean, anyone trying to push for more should have bought a different device in the first place IMO

[robust granite]

rather than seeking validation lol

[twin shale]

I feel like most don't dislike it, just that it's not a 10/10 that people often make it seem like

[delicate ermine]

but it is nice that it should run most d-pad friendly 6th gen games

[robust granite]

Im honestly impressed overall.

[river grove]

its better at fifth gen than i thought it would be tbh i wasnt expecting beetle saturn to be so solid

[brittle tiger]

Yup, and for less of a joke on that topic, I’m pretty damn sure I’d have gotten downvoted to hell and back for my recent comment on MiniLED screens, but in here people were at least willing to argue back and hear me out on my reasons for disliking it.

[river grove]

has anyone tested jaguar lol im curious how well that runs. not really sure what the state of jaguar emulation on android is rn even

[robust granite]

I just wanted somethign with overhead for shaders and a better quality feel and screen than the usual budget units flooding the market. so its a good niche.

[river grove]

3do i imagine is fine cuz its close on 3566

[wintry pecan]

Lynx and jaguar ran fine on the rp2s, there shouldn't be an issue

[summer marsh]

yeah this handheld is looking so great. my 6 button one will be for saturn, genesis, fighting games and arcade.

my 4 button will be gb/nes/snes/ps1/ps2

[robust granite]

I might get a 6 button later if I care enough...lol

[delicate ermine]

it would be nice if they upgrade the 2s with this screen and SoC

[brittle tiger]

No shit. Maybe instead of people demanding that Retroid slap on a D-Pad to a design that would just become absurdly cramped with one (just for the sake of ruining a device that wasn’t intended to be used with GC or PS2), they should get a different device that is guaranteed to be much better for GameCube and PS2.

[river grove]

yeah kk, wasnt really sure. i know it doesnt run great on 3566 but i wasnt sure how high you need to go to run it well. but u gotta cover jaguar and 3do to really say it does all of fifth gen 😂

[robust granite]

but it seems like its the 6 button ppl wanted outta that one Genesis controller anbernic one.

[delicate ermine]

we demanded a slider for N64

[robust granite]

they had a device for that. called the mini. lol

actually tho. glaring issue aside with the mini.

[late rock]

Different price bracket

[brittle tiger]

And the no Video-Out complaints make even less sense since the damn thing was made that way by Qualcomm, literally how do they expect Retroid to just add something that isn’t even in the chip?

[robust granite]

that would have the power for games that would use the sticks.

[delicate ermine]

the Mini with the full screen will be 98% what I want

[summer marsh]

Personally I’m glad it’s stick/sliderless and want Mini v2 for systems that need analog

[robust granite]

the real issue imho is that rn theres not really a good N64 dreamcast single stick device at that price range.

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

Could've been this

[robust granite]

the 2s was kinda great for that

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, but honestly I’d prefer if it was just something optional, like the Circle Pad Pro for the 3DS.

If not that, then just the PSP slider to make it smaller and less likely to make the D-Pad uncomfortable.

[robust granite]

but again, I still think almost any of these devices are still cheap and reasonable considering how much buying new consoles costs/costed in the past.

[summer marsh]

Well it would be sweet if they made an rp2s successor, though imo its worth spending extra on a mini v2 if it happens for basically full ps2/gc support and linux

[robust granite]

tbh, I wish more devices used sliders instead of sticks on the low powered devices that sticks rarely got used on.

[brittle tiger]

But, given they already had the design set and likely sent the mold-shape requests over for manufacturing, it was already unlikely.

[summer marsh]

how much could they even sell an rp2s successor with this screen and sticks? if the 6gb classic is $130 then I assume $140 with the sticks?

[robust granite]

exactly. I was gonna say, thats why I think adding sticks to the current device with less power almost doesnt make sense unless its specifically to be a 2s successor for those dreamcast n64 ppl.

[brittle tiger]

With the same chipset? Then yeah, I imagine around that price makes sense.

[river grove]

tbh i think enough of the n64 library play best with dual stick that its worth having two sticks for n64 vs just one. like if youre playing goldeneye, perfect dark etc. in 2025 you're gonna want to map them dual stick. and turok even controls that way (well dpad + analog stick) by default

[summer marsh]

tbh the mini was priced a little odd next to rp5 to begin with

[summer marsh]

yeah same chipset. it would make sense for them to do imo but the mini with same screen makes the price bracket a little weird

[robust granite]

was it? arent they the same chip?

[summer marsh]

yeah same chip, but rp5 screen was way nicer. I'm a 4:3 guy so would lean towards mini but it was widely considered to be priced strange next to it

[brittle tiger]

Yup, Mini and RP5 both have the SD865.

[summer marsh]

rp5 is the better deal all things considered

[river grove]

yeah i was thinking about the mini but then hard considered rp5 instead... and ended up getting neither lol

[robust granite]

barring the resolution issue, not necessarily. there really wasnt a premium 4:3 device powerful enough to do GC PS2 like the mini

[brittle tiger]

To be fair, the only reason the 5’s screen was better is because the Mini’s was actually the Classic screen and not the 4:3 960p we thought it was.

[summer marsh]

yeah which is why I personally lean towards the mini. but for $20 extra the rp5 is just a better deal

[robust granite]

also, the mini with the classic screen does look amazing and so much better.

[late rock]

Mini v2 is going to be crazy good

https://tenor.com/view/zesty-sonic-zesty-sonic-yum-scrumptious-gif-450341359401087919

[river grove]

yeah the shader issue on mini was a dealbreaker for me

[robust granite]

for an all in one device sure. but not everyone is looking for a single device to do everything well.

[robust granite]

tbh, it wasnt for me bcz it s a device thats focused on GC and PS2 imho. but anyone using it for other reasons....yeah that sucks.

[summer marsh]

lol yeah which is why I wouldn't buy an rp5 and always wanted the mini. that doesn't mean it wasn't priced strange next to rp5

[robust granite]

again it really wasnt, exact same hardware inside, just a different screen.

[summer marsh]

rp5 has more ram too

[robust granite]

unless you wanted the rp5 to be more expensive to make it seem like the more premium device lol

[river grove]

yeah i mean i would get it primarily to play ps2/gc but its small enough and enough of a screen upgrade that id want it to take over as my primary snes/ps1/n64/dc machine too and i like shaders for those. genuinely prefer n64 with good crt shaders than doing insane upscaling lol. low poly models and blurry textures dont look that much better at 1080p

[summer marsh]

no the mini should have been like $20 cheaper

[robust granite]

and where do you want them to cut $20 out of the design of it?

[summer marsh]

this isn't some hot take I have, it was widely discussed at the time of release that the mini was priced weird next to rp5. 2gb more ram and a way bigger/nicer screen

I still like the mini better but I dont get what you are arguing tbh

[late rock]

I mean that'd be nice but why? It was a justifiable price increase over the rg406h, which is its closest competitor

[summer marsh]

because it was priced strangely next to rp5 that's why

[late rock]

It's a side grade so it makes sense

[robust granite]

it really wasnt. you just keep saying it was. it was 20 dollars cheaper, it had less ram. you cant really use the screen as an example because screens dont all cost the same based on size and shape and quality. so to decrease the cost means somethign needs to be downgraded or taken away for a further lowered price.

[summer marsh]

not really. people got the mini because they wanted 4:3 but it seemed like a worse deal next to rp5

[nova skiff]

having flashbacks to rp5/rp mini reveal discussions lol

[brittle tiger]

War never changes…

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-g1-decepticon-war-never-changes-gif-14180063

[late rock]

Yeah, it's a more specialized device, hence the side grade, it was there for people that wanted a smaller device with no black bars for 4:3 content

[warm comet]

This is... disturbing

[late rock]

Sorry about that

[brittle tiger]

It always is, I still don’t know why people keep using it.

[nova skiff]

gen alpha humor amirite

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/chica-toy-chica-fnaf-foxy-freddy-gif-938004550236127790

[warm comet]

Thanks I'm going to have nightmares tonight now

[nova skiff]

this is about my take, I considered rp5 a more generalist option while rp mini was a more specialist option

but it made little sense to me to have both

[delicate ermine]

I just want the Mini with the full screen

[late rock]

I want the 5.5 inch 4:3 oled they're cooking up

[robust granite]

Im a huge fan of specialized devices for specific use cases. so you get the best experiences on them imho.

[summer marsh]

yeah it still seems expensive next to rp5 though. the v2 not so much with the full screen, but 2gb less ram and that tiny screen with massive bezels next to rp5 was priced weird

[robust granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[summer marsh]

I'm buying that v2 as soon as it releases though, assuming it does

[robust granite]

the v2 with the classic screen still playing 4:3 content at the exact same size lol

[nova skiff]

yeah I hated the rp mini screen (before the whole thing happened) and laughed at the memes

[summer marsh]

what is this you speak of???

[nova skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1276131252931526747/1276157643802808341/image.png?

[robust granite]

with big bezels. (oled so its fine)

[nova skiff]

never gets old 😆

[robust granite]

I still think the larger issue is the bezels werent differentiated in colour.

[late rock]

Just a dream for now, but hopefully they put that mortgage to good use

[brittle tiger]

They really managed to not only turn their own device into a pariah, but making it the proper screen size would’ve unironically avoided all of this on top of making the device look legit nicer.

[summer marsh]

oh damn, I thought it was real

[robust granite]

like, I think the Classics with black bezels look better and will look better in use as well.

[late rock]

I mean technically if they manage to source a surface duo screen that's around the same size

[summer marsh]

The v2 will earn them a ton of goodwill imo. It will be an amazing device

[brittle tiger]

It’s 4”-4.5”, not 5.5”

[river grove]

finally a true successor to the atari lynx

[nova skiff]

mini v3 leaked

[late rock]

My bad my magic orb had some dust on it

[scenic lodge]

where

[nova skiff]

nah that was in response to that meme I just posted

[robust granite]

having black bezels is so imporrtant to making a device screen look better when not playing full screen games on these devices. Especially OLEDs.

[summer marsh]

v3...hide even more of the actual screen behind bezels because that's what the people want

[warm comet]

I just wish with the mini v2 they would make the buttons less offensive but know they won't. That's the only thing keeping me from liking the mini really.

[late rock]

I cant tell if the berry color is pink or not

[summer marsh]

whats with the buttons?

[nova skiff]

yeah come to think of it peeps really complained a lot about how much noise mini's buttons make

[robust granite]

the fact they did the all mini with the uniform glass fronts with no seperate bezels. hurt my soul. bcz adding the bezel would inherently make it blend better. at least for non black units.

[summer marsh]

it's not their best looking device, even the v2. still want it tho

[nova skiff]

if only the classic 6 came in black 😔 we were robbed

[warm comet]

They're loud, they clack against the shell, And they have too much/too firm travel (opinion), so overall just not the most pleasant to use in my opinion.

[summer marsh]

that sucks

[summer marsh]

especially since it's not a 4:3 screen. saturn would look so much better with the black bars blended in with the bezel

[warm comet]

Other than that, I think the mini was actually more comfortable than the rp5

[robust granite]

I did a mockup of the mini with a seperate coloured bezel and it looked a million times better lol.

[robust granite]

1000% black buttons with the red inlay colour.

[nova skiff]

where's that pic of the pre production unit

[brittle tiger]

Offset between the sticks and the face buttons is the key to almost all layouts feeling good.

[robust granite]

I also wish the classic screen mini video showed the unit just playing in proper 4:3 and even 3:2 games. bcz it would look so good on that all black unit

[robust granite]

the classic screen mini?

or something else?

[nova skiff]

nah I meant the black classic 6

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1339770266544508958/1352596456917303326/05127f82f747cc88409badc36c077ab.png?

[brittle tiger]

With the offset the RP5 had, Stick-on-Top unironically would’ve been better solely because it would’ve put the D-pad in a spot where the stick doesn’t bump into your thumb when using it, but it wouldn’t have helped as much with the face buttons.

[wintry pecan]

Wish they would do a micro like the a30

[robust granite]

im so mad....

[warm comet]

Could probably find footage of someone playing a black aya pocket dmg. same screen

[late rock]

We were robbed of greatness

Imagine an all white version too

[warm comet]

Maybe I'll paint my pika unit and commit sacreliege

kek

[robust granite]

theres footage of the classic rn, but the issue is the orientation and how it looks.

[brittle tiger]

It was mostly an issue with the buttons hitting the glass when they went all the way back up. When you trim the button membranes a bit and use some double-sided tape to keep them in place, they actually make close to no sound at all.

[summer marsh]

they do black for all their devices. why not this? its so weird

[warm comet]

After trimming the membrane I didn't like how wobbly and flush the buttons were though. Hard to get just the right balance.

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/fuckem-chapelle-davechapellw-gif-14953769

[robust granite]

I dunno tbh....companies keep doing that. like when the anbernic cube was announced and shown off with no black version.

[late rock]

Basically this

[brittle tiger]

Yeah, that’s why I went for trimming just enough that the button pins don’t hit the glass even with extra material (like the following), then I added some double-sided tape to make sure the buttons stick to the membrane and don’t bounce up.

[robust granite]

all black units are like the safest bet to sell something and hide some things that can look janky.

[warm comet]

Yeah, get that. Just saying there's probably more footage of the pocket dmg and its the same oled panel so would give you a better idea.

[summer marsh]

I sold my jp saturn and kept my black saturn and accessories....black model 2 saturn is the goat. would be so nice to have a matching saturn handheld

oh well still happy we finally get a nice saturn handheld but I'm mildly salty lol

[robust granite]

nobody bullied retroid hard enough into releasing a black unit. like they did to anbernic. (dont actually lol)

[brittle tiger]

They still were above the device when fully depressed, but they also didn’t really crash into the glass either. Hell, you can even add extra double sided tape if you trimmed them too low to add back some height.

[summer marsh]

lol don't tell the crazy person that doxxed chris

[robust granite]

I just see the 6 button and go.....hmmm if I dont run these games stretched to full screen, the bars are gonna be super noticable with these light grey bezels....

I see the gbc colour ones and go. oh the oled bars and bezels are gonna look near identical and not be noticable.

[brittle tiger]

@warm comet In fact, you could probably do that with yours as a way to fix that current issue of them feeling flush.

[warm comet]

Oh, i sold my mini a long time ago. Just saying I would buy a v2 if they made the buttons better but they wont

[thick isle]

I think retro gray is the least favourite one among all. Maybe they should have substitue it with a black 6 buttons layout

Apart from that they already have so many color choice this time

[summer marsh]

sigh I'm going to have to wear some serious clown makeup if they announced a black 6 button in the near future

[river grove]

yeah i wish the 6 button one was in every colour

[robust granite]

I dunno, retroid always does something weird with the colour choices. at least one thing weird per release.

[summer marsh]

I get why it's not tho, I feel like it would be a massive pain to manufacture

[warm comet]

The grey bezel is a mistake

[river grove]

yeah i understand why... its unfortunate

[thick isle]

exactly

[river grove]

and yeah if they were just gonna do one id prefer if it was black

[robust granite]

absolutely

[dusty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[robust granite]

thats the biggest issue I have with most these devices. the bezel is so important.

[dusty marsh]

That's all they had to do. Six button in black.

[nova skiff]

if I had a choice I would've waited until they announced it in black lol

[robust granite]

this woulda trumped all other units I was considering.

oh btw. does anyone know if they discontinued the retroid brand launcher? or if all reviewers just dont even bother using it and go directly to base launcher?

I know ppl almost never use the base launcher. I know I dont on the 4pro. but Im curious. if they still develop it or gave up lol.

[solar nebula]

I feel like I’m the only person who doesn’t want the 6 button. These things have eight buttons now, including shoulders. I don’t need 10 total.

[pseudo dove]

What’s the consensus on comfort with this? With it looking like the buttons are low and not much chin

[pseudo dove]

Me too, I can live with using 4 face buttons and shoulders for 6 button systems… which there aren’t many of

[robust granite]

you arent the only one....just that theres not a lot of good Saturn/Genesis/6 button arcade consoles out atm.

[summer marsh]

honestly I imagine the 6 button sales are going to be much less than the 4 button. though there's outsized discussion about it here since that's one of the things that makes this vertical unique

[robust granite]

iirc the live stream, someone said it was a bit more comfy than the dmg

the 6 button is just a very specific niche that has loud fans. and I dont blame them.

[pseudo dove]

That’s surprising as the dmg has a lot to hold onto

[robust granite]

a few said, it felt like holding a gameboy colour.

and the shoulder buttons were decent.

[solar nebula]

I totally get the uniqueness, but in my mind I like form+function. I could see using 6 buttons for Saturn, but if I’m gonna buy something specifically for Saturn I don’t want it to look like a Nintendo product

[robust granite]

that being said, Ive only heard like 2 or 3 people with their hands on em for a short period of time talk about it so......results could change over the next week of testing for longer testing sessions with more reviewers?

[brittle tiger]

Not actually, it’s mostly just slightly thicker overall due to the back itself being flat.

[summer marsh]

Well sure that’s why you have a choice for your preference. Or you could be dumb like me and buy both

[robust granite]

ok then what would you reccomend that has 6 buttons that can play saturn games?

[nova skiff]

I can count my hands the number of 6 face button retro handhelds

[brittle tiger]

The Classic’s curved back should make it overall comfier to use.

[nova skiff]

as for the number that ran saturn well before classic...

https://tenor.com/view/bill-clinton-zero-okay-ok-cool-gif-16822140

[robust granite]

exactly.

[robust granite]

and the rear triggers look comfy as they have been improvign the past year or so. with the DMG and 40xxV.

[summer marsh]

I’ve seen complaints that the Saturn version looks weird on a gameboy form factor and I kind of get it.

Though the rg arc is fugly. I much prefer the classic…even with the grey bezels

[robust granite]

I think the arc looks totally fine, but lacks the juice.

again, I still think a black genesis style shceme with the red letters woulda been killer.

also the argument that it looks weird on a gb style handheld is kinda weird bcz....yeah...all verticals are gonna look like a gameboy lol

I think it looks less weird than this tho

😛

how far we have come lol

[nova skiff]

fun times

not

miss me with android without a touchscreen

[robust granite]

LOL

yeah....thats the problem with it 😛

(it definitely is one, but...)

[nova skiff]

and no shoulder buttons, and bad dpad, and overall shape

[robust granite]

and dpad location, and stick location, and start select location. and.... and......

wild they went from that to the 2

they learned how to generally improve their devices over time, unlike Miyoo....lol

release 1.5 good devices.

everything since has been a mess.

[river grove]

retroid didnt really have passable controls until the 3 even imo tho i know people liked the 2+ for the price/performance

[robust granite]

they improved over time though rather than regressing. and the 2 by the end of its itterations was great.

well for the most part. lol

Im just sayin, I dunno what miyoo is doing...

[river grove]

but yeah they improved very quickly lol. wish they would refine controls a little further now, or work on different options for different devices like anbernic is doing

yeah lol

kinda lost all faith in them after whatever went on with the p60 lol. and then a30 took like 2 years to come to market

[robust granite]

and lets kinda be honest.

[river grove]

they name changed to separate themselves from bittboy/pocketgo but didnt actually change their practices lol

[robust granite]

the mini and + really only are as popular as they are bcz of Onion OS.

[river grove]

100%. tho the v1/v2 mini the screen is also really good for a handheld that cheap, especially at the time

[robust granite]

now support for other devices is so much better, and miyoo is putting out....the a30 and flip?.....hmmm

[river grove]

but yeah i dont think onionos is good enough to justify getting an mm+ over the brick or 35xx+ (or retroid classic if its in budget of course lol) in 2025

[nova skiff]

how the mighty has fallen

[robust granite]

name any anbernic h700 lol.

[river grove]

well yeah but i was comparing it to strictly the stickless vertical one lol

[summer marsh]

I do 🙂

[scenic lodge]

rg35xx/cubexx

[summer marsh]

MM+ > Brick 🙂

[nova skiff]

spicy take 😆

I get it though, brick cfw is still not mature yet

[river grove]

idk i like shaders and runahead and ps1 upscale and portmaster and dreamcast games and better arcade and much more reliable ds and i could keep going

[summer marsh]

Not really, I find even the hardware is just more charming where the brick is very nicely designed but lacking that retro aura that made the MM+ so popular over the years

I dont have MM+ anymore btw, gave it to a good friend but I loved that handheld

[river grove]

i mean ive never owned a brick personally

but yeah i loved 35xx+ but gave it to a good friend cuz i wasnt using it over my 353m

[summer marsh]

Brick I bought and sold quickly...the screen is nice tho

[novel crane]

The MM+ is a great gateway dru- i mean handheld to lead you into the better stuff

[merry mango]

I wouldn’t feel as bad if it had an upgraded chip

[robust granite]

I think the MM/+ was great. and still is as an intro device. especially when pre-loaded with Onion.

but......

[summer marsh]

also prefer the dpad and buttons on MM+ 😅 don't eviscerate me I just prefer it over the brick

[robust granite]

not liking controls is the most fair thing you can have as a complaint tbh

even if I disagree lol. I dont own a brick so I dont know but thats just my point.

[nova skiff]

yeah mushy vs dome switch preference comes into play here too

[robust granite]

like, I know ppl dont like how clicky the 35xxSP is.

fair.

[novel crane]

The MM+ was my first handheld and I did love it.... Uuuuuntil the TrimUI Smart Pro came around

[dusty marsh]

Fell under fomo and just got my mm+, so glad I didn't miss out on this. Loving it.

[novel crane]

Which that device is a success story in itself

[robust granite]

dont like the 34xx dpad? fair.

but yeah....A30? good joke. Flip?took like over a year and instantly had to release a v2? lol

and support for h700 OS options is good.

[river grove]

a30 would have been great if it came out like at all close to when they announced it lol instead of letting anbernic beat them to it

tho i hate that it doesnt have a headphone jack

[robust granite]

you could say the same thing about the flip as well.

[frank plinth]

Watching Russ' video. Is it weird that there's a microphone input?

What is a good use case for that?

[nova skiff]

lol got worried when you started typing

[river grove]

a30 is crazy cuz they released two devices with the same chip 4 years apart lol

[robust granite]

instead of typing.when using play store/browser. DS/3DS games.

some other games had mic inputs like GC

[frank plinth]

Does RP5 have one?

[nova skiff]

yeah ds games used mic input but you can simulate it

[robust granite]

if it doesnt, I would be surprised, the 4 did.

[nova skiff]

I believe all retroid devices since rp2+ had mic input

[river grove]

to an extent. one of the tony hawk games let you record your own shit sounding sfx for when you hit things and you cant replicate that lmao

but a lot of ds games just had you blow into the mic as like a binary input lol and yeah those you can just map it to a button

[frank plinth]

Ah, nice. I guess it makes sense on an android device. Just haven't stumbled upon that yet.

[robust granite]

I still love that it got a pokemon move banned lol

[river grove]

i dont play pokemon really lol whats the context here? first ive heard of this

[robust granite]

being able to record your own audio for the attack, that played in online matches when you used the attack.

[river grove]

ohhhhh lmaoooo why did nintendo think that was a good idea

[robust granite]

you can figure out how ppl woulda used it in the era of the xbox360

[nova skiff]

I never knew about that lol

[river grove]

yeah nothing but "gamer words"

[robust granite]

tbh it makes sense and was a cool idea. but you know....

[river grove]

yeah corporations just didnt understand how much of a shithole the internet could be then lol

[robust granite]

yeah that was back in the wild west era b4 ppl knew better lol

[river grove]

remember that microsoft twitter chatbot that got turned horribly racist in like a week

[robust granite]

yep.

thats happened multiple times tbh. not just that one. lol

[river grove]

yeah

[floral current]

Now Nintendo is letting you not only voice chat over switch 2 online… but video chat too!

No way that could possibly end badly

[robust granite]

if you can call 5fps@17p Video.

[frank plinth]

I know it might have been posted as a joke, but a telescopic controller with a shorter width to support this would be pretty nice.

[robust granite]

circle pad pro memes have been mentioned lol

[frank plinth]

I'm already thinking about how I could use some type of insert for my GameSir

[river grove]

my guess is its gonna be friends only tbh i dont think youre gonna be able to do it in like, rando lobbies

[robust granite]

pretty sure they basically did say that. but also prob means strict parental controls when adding friends as well.

if any parents actually bother.