Retroid Pocket Classic

[stone ice]

well anbernic doesn't make an odin 2 competitor

[brittle tiger]

It’s the same reason why I can’t even say Sniffer’s in the wrong for not wanting more companies to use OLED.

[rain badge]

It's almost like you've just discovered people having different opinions

Almost there, not quite there yet

[rough depot]

For what it’s worth I would rather have the Retroid dpad myself, but it is subjective

[brittle tiger]

Ok real talk, I already know differing options exist and I’ve outright gone mask off multiple times to tell people “the best handheld is the one you already have” to try and help them ditch fomo, I just disliked that one moment where Sniffer used an actual engineering term wrong.

[rose dove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

[rain badge]

I just think if you're going through all the trouble of copying GBC colors you might as well do it one step closer. I also think a huge reason people buy verticals is nostalgia

The other way is to do something completely original and then just go for whatever makes sense or works better

[brittle tiger]

Like seriously, you literally could’ve ended everything off with just the Miyoo Mini if you really only wanted SNES and at least some really PS1 in a pocketable handheld. Most people here didn’t because they either wanted something like the Brick, or they just like getting more of these handhelds.

[stone ice]

i don't know why that makes a point for the ps vita dpad

[rain badge]

I think I'm in a minority there, but I honestly see value in a higher-end Android device for up to PSX

You can use higher-end emulators and be able to transfer savestates from your other devices

Plus some QoL stuff like BT audio and proper sleep mode just works without someone having to work on it

[void mortar]

Obviously speaking for myself here, but I'm ok with a handheld not doing literally everything for nostalgia sake.
It just needs to be good and feel good to use and play on

I do think there's merit in wanting a handheld to go all the way in the name of nostalgia

[brittle tiger]

It’s not a point for that, I’m not even talking about that anymore.

[stone ice]

for me the concept of this handheld is actually nostalgia: powerful and a super high res screen for crt shaders, so the inputs make more sense to be traditional

[cloud jewel]

wait, is there really one 6 button variant? I thought that was a user-made mockup

[stone ice]

it's in the youtube vid

[rain badge]

There is, I also thought this was a prank

It just appears for a brief second at the end

[halcyon gyro]

its true, it briefly shows up in the official video over the dmg variant, odd marketing but its there

[void mortar]

Hoping this will at least be moddable for the people who don't want Retroid dpads.
I've seen people mod the RPMini and RP5 with different sticks or buttons, but Idk if I've seen them mod different dpads straight up

[cloud jewel]

i mean.. wouldn't that 6-button version be the best/most desirable?

[halcyon gyro]

that's what I'm thinking too

[brittle tiger]

I’m just saying point blank that it gets annoying when people pretend I don’t understand differing options for a convo that outright wasn’t about opinions, despite the fact that I’m probably one of the only few here who actively recommends to people “hey, maybe don’t get the new handheld if you don’t like it so much? Especially if you already like what you have?”

[stone ice]

no, 6 buttons are more awkward to use if you don't need 6 buttons

[stone ice]

i have an rg arc and fumble with it constantly

[halcyon gyro]

what if you want a quick FF toggle

but yeah the most offputting about this for me is the fact the top row buttons aren't the same size

I just don't have that muscle memory

[cloud jewel]

will be interesting to see how many SKUs they put out

[stone ice]

they're like that on sega controllers so they went for that

[halcyon gyro]

praying for black analogue pocket version

black "genesis" version when lmao

[solemn sentinel]

Yeah I'd be inclined to agree in most cases

It becomes too much work for your thumb

[solemn sentinel]

I've used controllers dedicated towards fighting games and those have 6 face buttons, and I've always preferred sticking with shoulder buttons when possible

[cloud jewel]

radically different layout and button shape

[halcyon gyro]

ah yeah

it does have the concave shape

didnt realize that

[brittle tiger]

But seriously though, I’m gonna go ahead and asking something to anyone here that dislikes this thing, since I’ve seen way too little actually asking this in any of the rumor mill channels.

What’s the point of getting it if you don’t like it? The only reason they could even make an A13 build of the RP5 and use 8GB RAM is because software and RAM don’t require a full shell redesign. They’re not gonna make more drastic changes to the shell itself just because you don’t like it, so it’s either you like what it has or you don’t waste money on something you don’t like.

[stone ice]

i like it, but i would like it better with a normal dpad and bigger buttons

it's not all white or black

[cloud jewel]

no way, vita dpad > *

the vita dpad is GATLIKE

[stone ice]

no

[cloud jewel]

if you want some other dpad, look to other manufacturers. has retroid even made anything with any other dpad? maybe on the flip 1?

[stone ice]

yes, flip 1

and rp2+ and under

[halcyon gyro]

I'd like a bigger dpad and buttons too given the space it has

[rose dove]

Bigger buttons would be better

[stone ice]

the point is i want this screen and powerful chip, no one else offers this except ayaneo

[brittle tiger]

I know that, I’m saying it for the people in the back that have basically gone full “this thing sucks, it has no good uses, the AYANEO DMG (a $400 handheld) is way better”.

[modest mantle]

I mean. I wanted something like half the price of the DMG that had half the power. I just didn't need something else that ran the GB family

[void mortar]

Seen no one has shared this here yet, so I’m sharing this from the Retroid server.
Not the whole back sadly bc Chris is a troll 🗿

[cloud jewel]

I guess the real question is: how well withwill this thing sell? people's commentary is irrelevant

[stone ice]

this changes everything

[delicate ermine]

okay, cooling D900 confirmed

[cloud jewel]

wait does this mean active or passive?

[brittle tiger]

Since I’m not even gonna lie, I do also dislike when people discredit anyone’s interest for even the AYANEO handhelds, since no one but them can decide if the money is worth spending for them.

[analog thunder]

Vita d-pad 🤤

[cloud jewel]

pls no fans 🪭

[delicate ermine]

active by the looks of it

[novel crane]

Damnit Chris

[cloud jewel]

I guess it's inescapable. when was the last time retroid did a passively cooled device? rp2s?

[delicate ermine]

yeah

[void mortar]

Wouldn’t it need to be active cooling anyways if it uses d900 or some similarly powerful chip?

[brittle tiger]

Nope, it’s because the users point blank can’t be trusted.

[cloud jewel]

well you could run any chip passively. you just need to manage thermals accordingly.

[void mortar]

True

[delicate ermine]

absolutely needs to be, the question is tho, what are we gonna do with a d900 and zero sticks

[analog thunder]

THAT MEANS IT HAS A BOOTY

[brittle tiger]

Atheonyrh isn’t even exaggerating, I’ve seen the shit people have said in there myself.

[void mortar]

We dock it I guess and use external controllers, or use it for high end shaders

Ngl, now I really want to see a controller grip made for this knowing it will very likely use something like a d900

[cloud jewel]

or uh like mid-level android games like dead cells and vampire survivors?

[stone ice]

crt shaders

[delicate ermine]

give me a fucking slider god damn it

[stone ice]

no

[analog thunder]

The back is gonna look like this

[delicate ermine]

ain't too much to ask, a single slider and two extra N64 buttons in the color of the shell

[rose dove]

Each colour needs a different button/dpad layout

Make everyone happy

[cloud jewel]

are there even any phones which use d900? anything besides odin 1 lite?

[brittle tiger]

In fact, @ashen vault you still have that image of someone getting really weird about the Flip 1’s vent?

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I still don't get it with no sticks

Watch them be on the back

Did the video show every color?

I'm still calling it. 0 sticks but analog triggers 😆

[cloud jewel]

d900 was in low to mid range phones in 2022, this chip is OLD and should be cheap

[delicate ermine]

that would be wild

[modest mantle]

Regardless tha start select still hurts my soul

And then like, why is anyone going to get the non 6 button variant? Like it's so useful to have an extra button or two for emulators

[delicate ermine]

anyone said I'm buying this at all?

as long as my demands ain't meet, this seems kinda stupid to me

albeit the GBC colors go hard

[cloud jewel]

I am definitely buying this

stickless gang eatin' GOOD

[rose dove]

Sega buttons were pretty big, dunno how well the top row being smaller will translate shrunken down

[stone ice]

i am interested but the dpad spoils it

if it releases at a good price i might get it

[gusty socket]

I'm close to buying it. It does have to be OLED in my mind, which is pretty much confirmed. I'm curious about the price and the chip. I will sell my Miyoo Mini, MM+, RGB30, and RG35XXSP to afford this because my wife will get mad otherwise

It will be replacing a lot of devices for me

[void vault]

Between the Odin 2 getting Rocknix, the Switch 2 coming and the Flip 2 maybe not having defects, I am currently being careful about my budget.

[novel crane]

Yeaaah, so far my budget isn't liking this part of the year

[analog thunder]

The six buttons are slightly tempting but I just got a 406v so it's basically impossible to justify lmao

[stone ice]

just get a cheap arc-s for 6 button goodness

6 buttons and not sega dpad is weird anyway

[analog thunder]

Sega Saturn

[void mortar]

If this ends up moddable and you can change the dpad, could always do that.

Most people really like the Retroid dpad, so imo it’s fine for it to have that by default

[analog thunder]

I mean a Sega d-pad wouldn't be possible but yeah I'm on team Retroid d-pad all the way lol

[brittle tiger]

Make’s sense. I’m mostly planning on getting this first since I already have the RP5 and waiting for people to verify if the hinge is fine before getting the Flip 2 to replace said RP5.

[modest mantle]

To overpricedly play the same games you already probably have 4 devices for?

[cloud jewel]

shots fired! I resemble that remark!

[stone ice]

no, to play them in a much better way those 4 devices can't

[cloud jewel]

i had an rp2s but sold it cus I hated the 3.5" screen. I have an r36 max and the controls are awful. uh i think that's the extent of it. oh powkiddy v10 3:2 which is a totally diff type of device

[novel crane]

And to be able to play systems those 4 devices likely cant

[void vault]

Lumines on this

[brittle tiger]

Ok why do people suddenly keep acting like I don’t understand differing opinions while saying stuff like this?

[delicate ermine]

there is only one correct option, mine

[stone ice]

i agree

(thus making it incorrect)

[void mortar]

Reminder that this will likely be able to be connected to a tv or monitor

[delicate ermine]

still sucks that they limit the capabilities of the SoC like that

[modest mantle]

So like, expensively? There's other 6 button devices. The only thing that makes sense as an upgrade is the OLED, and then your playing upscaled stuff anyway

[delicate ermine]

a single slider ain't too much to demand

[modest mantle]

The ones that require sticks?

[delicate ermine]

and extra N64 buttons would be more than fair given the SEGA folks get six anyway

[novel crane]

Saturn

[delicate ermine]

alas they make the 4 button version cheaper

[void mortar]

There’s people here who just want it to be dpad.
Convinced more and more that a controller grip if done well would go hard

[brittle tiger]

Ok, now this I applaud. That’s at least more clever than what most are doing.

[delicate ermine]

a slider ain't going to get in the way, a stick would be questionable if not flush with the shell tho

[modest mantle]

Paying >$100 to just get a better Saturn machine seems wild to me. But I guess for some people it's their generational touch stone

[stone ice]

try to load crt royale shader on an h700 device

[delicate ermine]

I will do that on my rgCUBE thank you

[cloud jewel]

I play tetris the grand master 2 plus which is an arcade game from 1999 and does not run at 60fps on rk3566

[modest mantle]

We don't even know what it has yet. We just know that it's likely got an OLED, we hope

[void mortar]

It having a big vent on the back makes it likely it’s a more powerful chip

[delicate ermine]

nah D900 is pretty certain, given how they have active cooling on this

[brittle tiger]

It quite literally could only be that given the screen dimensions.

[modest mantle]

Vents on the back are probably just a scent diffuser

[modest mantle]

Yeah. I mean it's super likely

[stone ice]

i dunno, there are so many 31:27 screens it could be anything

[rough depot]

Essential oils to keep the gamer rage down

[brittle tiger]

Assuming they didn’t find a completely different IPS screen with the exact same screen shape.

[modest mantle]

Exactly

[rough depot]

Or to seduce us into buying every color

[modest mantle]

Or subliminally entice buying more retroid

Lol

[rough depot]

Gotta smell them all

[brittle tiger]

You’re right, there are so many, we could never possibly guess which one.

[brittle tiger]

Someone call Zu. (At least I think that’s Zu? I can’t remember who else it would be)

[modest mantle]

In all seriousness tho. A good vertical stick experience with Retroid quality and possibly Linux/android compat +OLED would have made this a def buy. But there's a lot of cool stuff coming this year, so just to play Saturn better makes it a likely pass for me

[delicate ermine]

at the end of the day it will just be a shitty RP4 for $119

[rough depot]

I am torn, part of me wants it just for the screen, but if it’s gonna be more than $120 it will never be a buy for me

Its better value than the ayaneo, but still too much for what I’d do with it

[delicate ermine]

with how vat would be auto-collected at that price point, it's dead for us EU folks anyway

[void mortar]

It’s likely not for me unless we get some sort of controller grip, but I think it’ll be a great device.
Hope the people who get this enjoy it a lot

I still will likely go for the Flip 2 instead as my first Retroid

[rough depot]

I’ll buy it used after someone pays the tariff for me and decides they don’t want it anymore

[delicate ermine]

at that point I can just clamp a freaking phone controller on it... it's stupid that there is no stick/slider at all, I can make do without a 2nd one for anything but shooters

[modest mantle]

Kinda wild. Cause your right. One slider on the front and suddenly this becomes a Saturn, N64, PS dream vert

[stone ice]

oh you're actually right

rip rp classic 05/03/2025-05/03/2025

unless maybe i get it in a bundle with the flip 2, imagine that

[delicate ermine]

nah this is coming after the Flip

[rough depot]

They might still do the bundle thing and ship separately

[wild beacon]

that's actually Chris

[late rock]

Seriously, one stick wouldn't kill this device, and it no it doesn't ruin pocketability either

[stone ice]

(it does)

although tbh at almost 4 inches this is too big to pocket anyway

[late rock]

It really doesn't

Just make them recessed

[stone ice]

my rule 1 for pocketable handhelds is no sticks allowed

[modest mantle]

What's wild is if they had 8 variants, and one had 6 buttons and a stick, it would outsell the others by a landslide

[stone ice]

only forgiven one is tsp which is too big to be pocketed casually anyway

[modest mantle]

I mean shit. I have snap on covers that let me still pocket everything XD

[late rock]

Nah I can put that in my pocket easily

It's not much bigger than a phone

[wild beacon]

I can't believe they made a variant just for Pope that's wild

[delicate ermine]

yep, this I would actually buy

[stone ice]

me too but it's not good for walking around with it

[echo torrent]

Well well well

[brittle tiger]

Well, it’s 4” for a screen that has the near exact same width as the RP Mini’s.

[brittle tiger]

So maybe that will make it more pocketable than the RG40XX V.

[late rock]

I would have to really, really want that oled screen to buy this

[stone ice]

no sticks makes it more pocketable than the xxv by default

[modest mantle]

Anime tight jean shorts tend to make pocketing harder

[stone ice]

for me the trimui brick is the biggest thing i'd actually pocket while carrying other stuff

[stone ice]

nah i have huge pockets, i can fit an odin 2 in them

i just won't, if we're being realistic

[modest mantle]

Haha. Odin got some junk in the trunk

[late rock]

Is there any reason they can't just add a stick and then make a slip cover

[echo torrent]

Looks like I wasn’t overanalyzing the button placement on the teaser image after all eh? And people said I was crazy…

Totally got the overall placements wrong in my mockup, which is a good thing lol

[brittle tiger]

The illusion of free will.

[novel crane]

Tbh, i never really cared for sticks on verticals

[brittle tiger]

Vertical with 2 Sticks=wtf this is Unpocketable as hell, no buy

Vertical with no sticks=wtf this is worthless for anything but up to PlayStation, no buy.

Vertical with 1 stick=wtf who uses only 1 stick? No buy.

[stone ice]

(buys them all)

[novel crane]

So my opinion on this is kinda moot

[echo torrent]

Yeah 2 extra buttons ain’t gonna get me to buy this thing either

[warm nebula]

The cycle lacks context if you ignore the SoC used

[echo torrent]

But hey at least if you complained about the start/select/menu button being off center, that’s fixed!

[novel crane]

Besides, im with Kyoka on this where OLED + CRT shaders is mainly why im getting this if the SoC is good enough

[stone ice]

yep

[late rock]

I just want a powerful vertical that doesn't suck

[brittle tiger]

Same here, at most I’d either want 1 slider just to minimize the effect on pocketability, or I’d want something like this, but done better for the Classic.

[brittle tiger]

Specifically they could do it in an actual grip for the RP Classic, instead of the TPU grip they usually do, so that people can have Analog controls if they want them, and not use this to have it be more pocketable.

[novel crane]

If i really wanted sticks, I'd just play my Odin 2 or buy the Flip 2

Or a 406v

[warm nebula]

they could even flair the base so it was effectively a grip too

[late rock]

406v is an abomination

[novel crane]

Its just chonky

[void mortar]

If this gets OLED, I would rather get this with a grip over a 406v

[late rock]

I would like a powerful vertical that is relatively pocketable, the 406v isn't that unfortunately

[rare magnet]

I appreciate the gesture at the end of the video, but IMO a Sega-themed 6-button handheld needs to be a horizontal.

[dreamy hull]

Oled is probably not even happening

[late rock]

No it is

[novel crane]

It is

[wild beacon]

why would they even make this without OLED, like what would be the selling point otherwise

[modest mantle]

i've never had issues using sticks on a vert

where sticks DO actually hurt is on like the rp5, where the back ergos are actually fighting against you using the sticks

[lament cloud]

I think the biggest visual issue with the pocket is the colors. Maybe I'm missing something, but purple d pad on yellow system looks ugly. Just copy analogue with SINGLE color systems.

[rare magnet]

They're "borrowing" the DMG screen, are they not?

[dreamy hull]

That's just rumors atm

[brittle tiger]

Ok you’ve just been negative for the sake of it (assuming I’m remembering you correctly as the “Flip 2 will be $250+“ guy) even when it makes less sense.

There literally aren’t other options for this screen shape that aren’t OLED.

[modest mantle]

it's 100% the oled

especially with active cooling

[void mortar]

As always, wait until specs reveal and reviews to know for sure, but based on what I've seen people say about the screen, it's very likely going to be OLED

[dreamy hull]

Proves nothing but ok

[late rock]

It's all but guaranteed that it's oled

[modest mantle]

There's no way they went through the process of sourcing a brand new non oled screen that's the same size, to then throw it on a risky endeavor

[brittle tiger]

It would require them managing to find a screen that perfectly matches the LG Wing screen’s weird Aspect Ratio but with IPS, for it to not be OLED.

[lament cloud]

Are you familiar with how supply chains work for companies that can't afford ordering and designing a screen specific to dimensions they desire?

[rare magnet]

Look ... Yoda says that once you start down the OLED path, forever will it dominate your destiny. And I believe Yoda here.

[modest mantle]

yeah, they aren't brand new sourcing screens for this

that'd be pretty nutty

[stone ice]

just use a little common sense, the ayaneo dmg screen is 31:27 and matches this exactly

how many other 31:27 screens do you know?

[void mortar]

Either way, I'm absolutely eating my words from yesterday about this not being a big enough upgrade for me to go from R36S
"Oh, I need something more like the RP5 or the Flip 2 for it to be a big enough upgrade, this won't be that big for me personally". 🤡
OLED + this more than likely having a powerful enough chip for me to likely play GCN and PS2 on at the very least docked might actually put it on the map for me now as a potential purchase, but I'll really need to see what other info we get

[late rock]

I thought it was 8:7

[void mortar]

As it stands rn, I'm still leaving more heavily towards Flip 2 for what I'm personally wanting out of my next device

[brittle tiger]

And that’s not even getting into the bit where they could do something like this to make GC and PS2 playable without external controls.

[lament cloud]

WHY.

[modest mantle]

A safe bet. I mean unless you need the best vertical Saturn experience

[rare magnet]

I mean, if you want to play PS2 you're going to want those sticks.

[lament cloud]

Why play PS2 without sticks. Or gamecube.

[brittle tiger]

1240x1080 is moreso 31:27, which is closer to 10:9 than it is to 8:7.

[modest mantle]

To prove the haters wrong!

[void mortar]

Did I say I was going to play it without sticks?

[modest mantle]

I'm gonna throw mobile controller grips on this and blow all your minds

[novel crane]

I thought you said docked

[void mortar]

That's why I said I'd at the least play it docked.
So that I can play GCN and PS2 with an external controller

[lament cloud]

I tried ocarina of time on the SP. It's playable for a bit and then you find spots where the lack of precision makes the game hell

[novel crane]

Not without sticks

[late rock]

Damn Google lied to me

[lament cloud]

Man docking these handhelds makes so little sense too

[late rock]

I'm gonna slap a telescopic controller onto this thing

[rare magnet]

The Flip 2 would make WAY more sense for a PS2/GC use case. If you have to dock it or use an external controller to play, just use a phone. Or your PC.

[lament cloud]

I see these elaborate setups with a docked rg35xx and their 4 other $50 handhelds. Buddy you could've bought a decent mini PC or a steam deck with that money

[modest mantle]

I mean we're just being overly hopeful here

[void mortar]

^

I'm waiting for more info like usual, but it'll take something really crazy for me to wanna get this over Flip 2

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Flip 2 by landslide at this point

[delicate ermine]

if it's a D900 I wouldn't want to play PS2 docked... native res hurts my eyes on the big screen

[brittle tiger]

Hopeful how? I’m just saying this would make it more easily possible to play PS2 and GC on the Classic.

[late rock]

It's just not likely for them make it imo

[modest mantle]

Just that they would actually release something like that

[late rock]

Not that I don't want it

[modest mantle]

Exaclty

[brittle tiger]

It’s more likely than them changing the design of the Classic to add an analog slider.

[stone ice]

even if they made it you'd have like 5cm from your buttons to the sticks

[void mortar]

Since it'll for certain be Android, couldn't someone theoretically make a 3rd party controller case for it?

[late rock]

I mean fair, but neither is that likely at this stage

[void mortar]

Not that I expect that to be likely mind you

[lament cloud]

So the 6 button variant is real?

[stone ice]

yes

[void mortar]

Yep!

[lament cloud]

Goddammit retroid why 6 buttons but no stick for n64

Wtf

Blue balling me

[late rock]

That's what I'm saying

[brittle tiger]

Exactly, hence why I’m asking for something that can arguably be done at any point in time, not just during the planning stages of the handheld design.

[void mortar]

I agree with RNS that a case would be more likely than them changing the design

Whether it's likely or not is another thing altogether

[rare magnet]

For that, you'll need to wait for the Pocket Classic 2. But buy this one in the meantime.

[brittle tiger]

I get it’s unlikely, but it’s definitely still more likely than them changing the Classic itself, so I’d rather ask for it.

[delicate ermine]

they call it the Retroid Pocket Classic and yet it misses so much what the RP1 made what it was

[lament cloud]

Perhaps someone can do that stick on top of d pad mod for this

[late rock]

It just doesn't seem like they would add something like that if they didn't market it as a big feature. Maybe a community accessory though

[brittle tiger]

The cursed Analog Stick above the D-Pad and the complete lack of Shoulder buttons?

[stone ice]

well they didn't call it the rp1s

[void mortar]

If they do make a case, I still would need to see the reviews on it first to ensure it's actually, y'know, worthwhile to purcase for this.
Don't want it to be ass like the GKD controller grip

[delicate ermine]

I mean give me two extra face buttons and a slider, god damn it

[brittle tiger]

You already got the 2 extra face buttons.

[echo torrent]

currently analyzing the new video for proof of a joystick version...

[late rock]

What's wrong with an analog above the dpad, looks like there would be enough room to comfortably use both

[delicate ermine]

I don't desire the SEGA layout

I have an ARC

[wild beacon]

but a SEGA layout with OLED

[warm nebula]

An updated rp1 would have been more interesting option than an overpowered gbc homage, especially if it was a n64/dc/saturn level of machine

[brittle tiger]

Oh I don’t mind it too much myself, I’m just usually surprised to find others that don’t mind it since it’s usually regarded as cursed.

[modest mantle]

Dude. I just wanted a premium vert that wasn't ayaneo

All I wanted

An endgame I could just stop looking for verticals. Lol

[echo torrent]

yeah just give us a 40XXV with a competent chip

[brittle tiger]

I mean you’re still arguably getting it in terms of quality, it’s just not premium in terms of performance and available controls.

[modest mantle]

What's dumb is I'd pay Ayaneo prices if I could just avoid that it's Ayaneo. Lol

[modest mantle]

So like, all the things

[stone ice]

actually you just convinced me that i shouldn't buy this lmao, thanks

[late rock]

Glad to see you found the light

[delicate ermine]

and OLED

[stone ice]

this won't be endgame for me if i don't like the controls so why get it

[echo torrent]

I was really, really hoping that's what this would be... it made the most sense

[modest mantle]

I love verts. Actually my fav form factor. But I really don't want another vert in the vert drawer while on my quest. Lol

[echo torrent]

even just ONE joystick/slider goes a huge way to making n64/psp/dreamcast playable

[modest mantle]

If the DMG could just run Linux and I could scrape the Ayaneo software off, and then pray the hardware lasts, I'd have a chance

[echo torrent]

yeah n64 is more ideal with 2 but 1 is at least 1000x better than 0

[late rock]

The ayaneo classic is overpriced and now this doesn't have enough controls. We can't win

[modest mantle]

But if you get the old classic, and you tape the two together...

[late rock]

You might be onto something

Jarvis, find out if the ayaneo pocket micro supports external displays

[modest mantle]

They're devolving in front of our eyes pretty soon it'll have a 4K OLED and just a single centered button

[analog thunder]

Single button fans stay winning

[modest mantle]

[analog thunder]

It's just a screen but the screen is a giant rectangular button you can press down. No touch screen support btw

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/god-why-ugh-nooo-ahh-gif-27454757

It doesn't

[stone ice]

it doesn't even a headphone jack, what did you expect

[modest mantle]

It doesn't matter. Content creators will praise it as the best vertical device ever and they'll sell a ton and everyone will get their bag

[analog thunder]

Isn't the pocket micro a horizontal

[modest mantle]

Gotta keep the hype money train going

[late rock]

"Is THIS the new best vertical?"

[modest mantle]

"well it's new, so YES!"

[void mortar]

I still think it'll be a great vertical.
Just doesn't have enough of the things I myself would want on it x)

[rare magnet]

New Vertical KING!

[modest mantle]

Until the next one at least

[stone ice]

sorry, the "king" thing is only for budget kings, 3326 copies of copies

[rare magnet]

Continue the cycle.

[modest mantle]

Price makes or breaks it. Just find it crazy to head to $100 land and not throw a stick on

[rare magnet]

This kinda is ... it's a budget Ayaneo DMG.

[modest mantle]

Maybe I'm wrong and it ends up being like $60

[late rock]

I LOVE HANDHELDS WITH THE POWER TO PLAY GAMES BUT NOT THE CONTROLS❗️❗️❗️ I LOVE OVERPOWERED CHIPS❗️❗️❗️

[void mortar]

Chris said in the Retroid server that it's not automatically a high-end chip just cuz it has a vent btw

[analog thunder]

Punch-Out Wii and DKCR machine

[void mortar]

Doesn't deconfirm it automatically, but bringing that up

[echo torrent]

it will be a snapdragon 8 elite, watch

[modest mantle]

I mean maybe? There's still a lot of weirdness as far as layout, aesthetics and boxiness goes

Weird to throw out the flip 2 and RP5, two curvy gaming sex machines. And then drop this hard rectangle

[rare magnet]

Depends on what counts as "high end". If it's got a fan, it's probably D900 or above.

[stone ice]

stop the cope

[novel crane]

Tbh, I see it more as a Budget Analogue Pocket in terms of performance (not trying to compare FPGA and software emu) and form factor

[late rock]

Making a vertical powerful enough solely to use shaders feels a bit too niche, I know it's called the classic but still

[stone ice]

jz4770 confirmed

[pseudo dove]

How don’t know this?

[late rock]

I'm not someone that cares all that much about the authentic experience, but I feel like I would rather get an FPGA if I did

[rare magnet]

Plot twist: It's actually using a Ryzen Z1 Extreme and will burn your fingers off just like the metal Pocket 3+ does.

[novel crane]

[late rock]

10 minutes of battery life

[novel crane]

Too low

[modest mantle]

Actively cooled H700

[novel crane]

Z2 Extreme

5 mins battery life

[rare magnet]

Could get some of those Z2G chips from Lenovo. If they have any sense they'll stop using them for $730 handhelds.

[modest mantle]

It's actually got a desktop GPU

[void mortar]

I'll be frank, I think it'd be kind of weird to have active or even passive cooling at all if the chip doesn't need it

Ig the screen could demand cooling? Idk

[modest mantle]

I'm serious tho. If it comes with a higher end chip, it still might serve a purpose on a dock

[rare magnet]

Call Nvidia ... tell them Retroid has stolen their ROPs and put them in these handhelds.

[thick quail]

It could only help. I mentioned this in retroid but even something like the brick gets super hot and could have benefitted with passive cooling

[modest mantle]

Saying, well you'll only play 1:1ish ratio systems on this, but dock for some 16:9 experience isn't the worst pitch

[novel crane]

I still think this will probably have between a D900 or a sd865

[void mortar]

I remember hearing about the TrimUI Brick getting really hot yeah

Good point

[modest mantle]

Sd865 with no stick will make me sad

Linux and the quirky shit it brings and no stick

[rare magnet]

Retroid has recent experience with D900, D1100, SD865. Having one of those attached to a decently high-end screen (that we're assuming this has) would make sense.

[modest mantle]

For docking yeah

[rare magnet]

They could go back to a T618, but at this point how available are those and why even do it?

[echo torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-tune-fine-tuning-fine-tuned-copium-walter-white-gif-4796770362564082802

what if they have a joystick version they just haven't shown yet?

[modest mantle]

Still haven't seen the sides right? What if it has joycons?

[rare magnet]

Another plot twist - controls slide down PSP-Go style to reveal twin sliders.

[modest mantle]

Fuck me. All of these sound way cooler. Lol

[rare magnet]

Sticks when you need them, out of the way when you don't.

[modest mantle]

An attachment to the left and suddenly that vertical design line is centered

[rare magnet]

Instead of joycon, single slider pops out of the left side.

[stone ice]

another plot twist: this is actually a bartop arcade, the screen is actually 14 inches

[rare magnet]

(I just want a transformer handheld, I guess.)

[modest mantle]

You have to punch that buttons

Or they give you a mallet

[brittle tiger]

Right, because it’s not already a great vertical…

[worldly spoke]

is it true that this handheld will have a 432p screen?

[modest mantle]

Joycons on a vert isn't the craziest idea. Satisfies many crowds

[modest mantle]

Oh. So you've played one. That's cool

RNS is already praising the gaming experience

[echo torrent]

I mean to be fair there's probably a good chance it will be a good experience for any non-joystick console... retroid has a pretty good track record

that's just not a very high bar to clear lol

[modest mantle]

For sure. Just kinda wild to come out swinging with a statement like that when we have only seen the front and a quarter of the back. Lol

[echo torrent]

I mean as it stands... the only niche this really satisfies is saturn emulation? and people who like poppy colors I guess

[brittle tiger]

I’ve played on the Brick, and I’m pretty sure this is literally going to be the exact same experience.

[rare magnet]

At any rate, all of this is basically just shitposting until Retroid reveals the full specs. Which is exactly what Retroid wants (buzz), so ... carry on.

[solemn sentinel]

Also the D-pad

[modest mantle]

Trimui is Retroid is Ayn confirmed

[solemn sentinel]

No verticals on the market with a Vita-style D-pad

[echo torrent]

true

purists will be happy

[modest mantle]

[solemn sentinel]

Actually idk what the Brick's is like

[rare magnet]

All of them are secretly run by Anbernic. That's why they've been so quiet lately.

[late rock]

Powkiddy is the true mastermind

[rare magnet]

Shh! Don't let them know you've learned the secret!

[echo torrent]

Brick's is stiffer than the vita

Retroid/ayn's vita style have more give/roll

[modest mantle]

You don't get it people! He's seen the renders! It's great!

[late rock]

Okay cmon it's probably going to feel pretty similar to a brick

[brittle tiger]

Exactly, I’m already enjoying the brick’s tactile d-pad, and I always preferred the Retroid D-Pads the most.

[modest mantle]

I'm just poking. It'll probably be fine. Even good companies take missteps tho

[brittle tiger]

Exactly. It’s not like I’m only guessing this based on renders alone.

[solemn sentinel]

In fairness they do seem to own Trimui

[late rock]

Yeah I'm not sure what's up with that

I think I heard somewhere trimui is the sister company of miyoo

[modest mantle]

They were like, how can we take start and select and make it weird?

[nocturne gazelle]

Separate companies, outsource to the same dev for UI/Software stack

[rare magnet]

At any rate ... I think this'll probably sell well enough. There are a decent amount of people out there who want this form factor and (I assume) screen ... but who think the Pocket DMG is absurdly overdone and overpriced.

[modest mantle]

To be fair in China it's all one big melting pot. Sometimes designers work for multiple separate companies

[quaint steeple]

Pope must have a massive boner right now

[rare magnet]

TMI

[tight token]

People were asking why retroid might be hiding a 6 button configuration

I have one word: Anbernic lol

Probably trying to keep from getting cloned before they can launch

[modest mantle]

I mean it was pretty poorly hidden. And for a day. Lol

[distant widget]

should have pair it with a dish dpad really

[tight token]

They should have stuck with it until they're a week out lol

[modest mantle]

Who knows. maybe the drop is ramped up compared to the flip 2

[brittle tiger]

Poorly hidden? People were literally making fun of the guy that made the 6 button render as being “hyperfixated on a rendering error for a shadow that doesn’t actually exist”.

[modest mantle]

Eh. We got nothing better to do

[late rock]

Well they only hid it for like 12 hours

[modest mantle]

Don't take anything too personally and we'll all be fine

[rare magnet]

To be fair, Anbernic can probably design like three handhelds in twelve hours if sufficiently provoked.

[modest mantle]

Wouldn't be the first time a rendering error caused wild speculation

[tight token]

*clone

Not sure if a lot of what they do could be considered design lol

[brittle tiger]

Yeah sure, right up until people say they like it and don’t want people to change what’s already there, then it’s “them not understanding what a differing opinion is”.

[tight token]

You either have what looks like Blender rejects or they squinted at a handheld and sketched freehand lol

[modest mantle]

Well they're just dumb. and I'm dumb. We're all dumb

[rare magnet]

All of these companies are pretty much that, though.

[modest mantle]

But seriously. Even coming from the brick. this has some weird layout choices

For something that's meant to be a "classic" brick design

[tight token]

They can't even be arsed to name the h700 devices though lol

[brittle tiger]

Eh, depends on if they have the Select on top, like what Miyoo thought of as a “good idea”.

[tight token]

Agreed

[rare magnet]

This doesn't seem to be as bad as the WTF button arrangement on the RP3+, though.

[brittle tiger]

Even I can’t say that wasn’t weird, that outright was nonstandard.

[modest mantle]

What. Start select. Non traditional d pad. Things off centered

Completely square

Like you guys are looking at the same pics as me right?

[late rock]

https://tenor.com/view/deny-theorize-cope-lowtiergod-low-tier-god-gif-14851882763252322324

Maybe the x and y lines indicate different modules, showing that you can add an analog to the left corner and switch between 4 and 6 face buttons

[modest mantle]

New Ayaneo classic has more classic design than this

[brittle tiger]

We are, and personally I like it.

[brittle tiger]

Nah, that thing is still an abomination considering it’s still got the Start and Select on the bottom left and still has bottom firing speakers, despite now outright having more space for front firing, or even to have Start and Select (or Home and Back) in those spots.

[late rock]

Ayaneo could not have put any less effort into the classic lmao

[rough depot]

They took the sticks off, what else could you want

[brittle tiger]

Like, even as a fan of the Gameboy Micro, I still would call this thing way more classic than the AYANEO Classic.

[pseudo dove]

Where’s the pic showing some of the back of this?

[rough depot]

Gonna have to scroll up a bit

It’s not pinned or anything

[brittle tiger]

Nowhere, since we can’t be trusted with it.

He’s not even lying or exaggerating, I’ve seen some shit in that discord…

[rough depot]

#1339773221175824415 message

This is what we got

The smelly vent

Patent pending Retroid mind control technology

[pseudo dove]

Thanks

Oh and I thought the 6 button pics were a meme .. just seen the vid

[rough depot]

We all did

[pseudo dove]

That’s so weird

Just pick a design?

[ashen vault]

No I actually removed all my old screenshots like 3 weeks ago

[modest mantle]

I never said you couldn't like it. I'm just saying you can say things are weird and still like it

But design wise there's nothing classic unless classic just means vertical. In which case, yes, it's vertical

[analog thunder]

No one pinned the image reeee

[pseudo dove]

I wasn’t bothered about a stick but now there’s a 6 button design I kinda am

[analog thunder]

The colors give gbc a bit too. Yeah that start and select is really dang weird lol

[pearl gorge]

All I want to know is whether or not this thing is truly pocketable

[pseudo dove]

NEOGEO clicky dpad on this with 6 buttons

[modest mantle]

Yeah. There are classic color ways. I'll give it that

[modest mantle]

It will be as long as your not rocking skinny jeans. Just looking at it and then Ayaneo

[rough depot]

I mean it’s like a 4 inch square screen so it’s probably at least 6x4

It’s a little bigger than I’d want in a pocket but some of y’all have some serious pockets

[modest mantle]

Haha. True

But like. More pocketable than the majority of candybars

[brittle tiger]

Fair enough then.

[modest mantle]

Still crying in lack of sliders

Would have kept pocketability

[rough depot]

If it’s gonna have active cooling and the power to do some higher end I agree it’s a shame

Would make it easier to justify the price

[modest mantle]

Which is still an unknown

[echo torrent]

yeah and look who's laughing now?

[modest mantle]

But when OLED and active cooling get thrown around I don't imagine it's bargain bin

[rough depot]

It’s always worse than you want it to be imo

[brittle tiger]

Damn, now where will we find the picture of someone saying “ooh how dirty, shake that vent”.

[rough depot]

If it’s $85 I’d probably buy one

If it’s 125 I would probably not

[lyric flax]

It’s prolly gonna be closer to 125 I’d imagine

[rough depot]

For sure

So I will wait like a vulture for one of you to run out of the dopamine rush you get from buying it and generously take it off your hands to fund your next hit

[modest mantle]

Yeah. Id bank on like 120ish

[lyric flax]

For me now it’s kinda sad that the Saturn colorway was the only one to get the Saturn buttons; now I’m kinda drawn back from the device as a whole and just want to wait and see what anbernic or another company replies with if they do

[ashen vault]

#1276840395430694923 message

best I could find

[late rock]

I'm just waiting on anbernic to do anything atp

[brittle tiger]

There it is.

So yeah, here’s the context for this post from Atheonyrh.

[ashen vault]

his brother wrote that though, he was on the toilet

[brittle tiger]

And many more.

[magic rover]

Goddamn it. Standard yellow looks so much better.

[stone ice]

yep, that was the gbc color i had, the not-pikachu yellow

gameboy color color

[sage silo]

The backplate was a dark blue matching the dpad too.

[delicate ermine]

yeah, they should just have gone with the normal GBC colors instead of the Pikachu yellow 😅

[brittle tiger]

To be fair, we haven’t seen the back of the Pikachu Classic yet.

[sage silo]

I'm really wondering what they do about the rear. Would love for a flat rear on a device like this.

I've never really like this design on verticals. I get why it's like that but it really feels goofy to me. https://img.tvcmall.com/dynamic/uploads/details/740x740_6811000481C-1.webp

[solemn sentinel]

Idk how else they'd incorporate shoulder buttons without them tbh

[late rock]

Doesn't the gkd pixel have them on top

[nocturne gazelle]

that works when you can reach them without basketball fingers

[late rock]

True, probably not the best idea for this size

[nocturne gazelle]

even on 3.5" devices im not touching the top with a normal grip tbh

[late rock]

I think doing something similar to the miyoo minis triggers would be best for pocketability tbh

[steady mortar]

Ahhhhh

That's why you wanted them to do sd865

[void mortar]

D900, but yeah.
Though who knows if it'll be any chip remotely higher end at this point.

Will be interesting to see the info released on this after the Flip 2 preorders

[steady mortar]

Hopefully it's d900 for lower price

[brittle tiger]

I mean maybe something like the original Miyoo Mini, or at least the Miyoo Mini Plus/Trimui Brick would work better?

[pseudo dove]

Hopefully not d900

[sage silo]

I don't like the Miyoo style either. The Brick looks good to me. I think I'd just want either no shoulder buttons or ad close to an SP as possible if they have them.

[brittle tiger]

Just hope for both that and sd865. That way people get either “expensive with dual-boot Linux/Android” or “cheap Android-only”.

[echo torrent]

I wouldn't say it was "poorly hidden" but they definitely knew what they were doing when they made that button slightly visible. They could've EASILY shifted the layout to fully conceal the extra button on the 6. They knew people might notice, and probably hoped they would. It's wild to me that some people thought I was overanalyzing. Designers (well, GOOD designers) are usually very detail oriented.

it's also why they concealed the button layout on the original teaser... they clearly wanted to make a big deal about it

[void vault]

This demonstrates the 6 buttons were real, but will they be real?

[echo torrent]

maybe we're all getting trolled by retroid

who knows

[void mortar]

The real 6 buttons were the friends we made along the way

[void vault]

It clearly has 6 buttons: A, B, X, Y, Select, Start

[echo torrent]

Now they just need to unveil a 7 button version wherein the 7th button is a joystick that clicks down

[stone ice]

that's too conservative, have 4 of them replace the face buttons

[rare magnet]

[Anbernic standing in the corner furiously scribbling notes.]

[halcyon palm]

All this 6 button hype does is just let them know trickle hype works 😂

[tight token]

Ambernic is furiously doing something in the corner but I'm not sure that I want to see what it is 😂

Cuts to Anbernic trying to make another h700 device with mass market appeal but they've run out of popular shapes

[junior fox]

I would buy the shit out of a DMG clone H700

[languid bone]

Something not so ugly as classic for sure

[tight token]

They've got you, rg40xx V

[junior fox]

Nah, the Game Boy DMG

The thicc one

[stone ice]

they just gotta make 720p refreshes of all devices, maybe make some brick screen versions

i'd love a 32xx that's like a 28xx but less shitty

[echo torrent]

I just want a 40XXV that can actually play PSP, DC, N64, Saturn

[stone ice]

so a 405v

[echo torrent]

that also doesn't look like a pontoon boat

[stone ice]

too bad then

[echo torrent]

I know 😦

[stone ice]

embrace the fat gameboy

[tight token]

406v is your friend™️

[echo torrent]

maybe I just need to accept that the chonker is the only option

[tight token]

As soon as you said Saturn unfortunately yeah

[echo torrent]

well what can do minus Saturn?

353V?

because H700 do struggle with a lot of those systems

[stone ice]

3566 isn't that big of a jump

[echo torrent]

wasn't sure, never owned one

[spice crag]

Did yall see the teaser dropped? https://youtu.be/tI0pi-TlmaA?si=uEGJ02EQtNtg7WRJ

[stone ice]

we have seen

[spice crag]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-gif-2812499661997282263

[frank plinth]

What's the likelihood this thing only has two shoulder buttons?

It'd align with the "classic" theme, but would really make it DOA for PS1 and above.

[delicate ermine]

unlikely to have only two shoulder buttons, this will be fine for PS1 IMO

above, lol, what can you even play without a stick/slider

they basically kill off N64/DC and 3DS

[stone ice]

any company that respects themselves has all shoulder buttons

[frank plinth]

Yeah, mostly PS1. I want a PS1 JRPG machine that can handle shaders and filters.

And L2/R2 for fast forward and rewind on other consoles.

[stone ice]

man, i don't even have nostalgia for ps1, but when i saw the ps1 startup with a good crt filter i got tingles in my stomach

[frank plinth]

Yuppp

And we don't know the official screen dimensions yet?

[stone ice]

3,92 inch oled, 1240x1080

(ayaneo dmg screen)

[frank plinth]

🙏🙏 nice thank you!

Yup this is what I've been waiting for.

[obsidian roost]

confirmed?

[solemn sentinel]

Nay

But we'll most likely be getting something similar enough

[stone ice]

not enough, literally that

it matches perfectly

[delicate ermine]

MagicX has that screen as well, so I will probably wait on their take, if there isn't an option to order it alongside the Flip 2 while the device itself is reasonably cheap

[magic rover]

Wait, the 6 button isn't a shop? I feel like I'm on mushrooms with every new bit on this.

[delicate ermine]

the 6 button exists, but only in that one color way

[ebon forum]

Super SP!!!!!!

[unkempt frost]

I am going to go feral
https://twitter.com/Mugen_Pascal/status/1897251427304792243

Pascal Mugen (@Mugen_Pascal) on X

@Retroid0fficial What, 6 buttons spotted ! May be a good fit fort saturn/Genesis/arcade !

X · Mar 5, 2025, 11:42 AM

[unkempt frost]

My theory is that all colorations except the Saturn one will have four shoulder buttons. Saturn might just have two. I'd increase tooling costs, sure, but even just having one six-button variant is already doing that.

[magic rover]

Wouldn't having a different mold for one color cost more?

[unkempt frost]

Oh absolutely

[magic rover]

For the back, that is.

[delicate ermine]

yeah the back will be the same on all, 100%

[unkempt frost]

I hope so

[lyric flax]

I assume the Saturn one is gonna cost more

[unkempt frost]

But I could see them doing that

[delicate ermine]

but I bet the Saturn one will be 10bucks more

[unkempt frost]

Probably, but don't care

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[lyric flax]

I will buy it if it can play saturn maybe and releases with no issues/competitors, but that clear purple is also calling me

[unkempt frost]

I love my RG Arc, but it can barely do Saturn

[magic rover]

They wouldn't repeat Anbernic's mistakes... right?

[unkempt frost]

If it's the same silicon that's in the RP5/Mini, then it could handle nearly all games on Beetle Saturn

[delicate ermine]

I mean the D900 should do fine enough with Saturn

[unkempt frost]

Otherwise, we might have to settle for Yaba Sanshiro 2

[delicate ermine]

would be funny if the Saturn version is the one they do SD865 with

while the others get D900

[unkempt frost]

It'd be the only one that really needs it

[delicate ermine]

$119 for the D900
$179 for the SD865

[unkempt frost]

Without sticks, PS2 era and up is gonna be unpleasant

[lunar pecan]

I went to look up Sega Saturn games on yt and this is what I got

[magic rover]

Hmm, D900 for $100 would be dope.

[lunar pecan]

why are there so many pron games on the Saturn

[magic rover]

UNTIL YOUR FINGERS BREAK

[lunar pecan]

There's a game named "Dark Seed" that was only released in Japan but the speaker protag speaks English???

[unkempt frost]

There's a more complete version of Castlevania SotN that has some translation patches as well as some QoL improvements (like bringing up the map with a button combo)(yes it was just the Select button on PS1 but Saturn doesn't have a Select button)

[queen glade]

it was a PC game in English before it was released in Japan on the PlayStation. there's also a sequel

[queen glade]

cubic gallery is an all time classic

[mint nymph]

Maybe I’m missing something, but what would you need the 865 for on this device, other than the ability to run Linux?

[delicate ermine]

with the Saturn version, BeetleCore

[mint nymph]

I do like the idea of them doing the Ayaneo move (the very fancy premium Game Boy) at a much lower cost.

[delicate ermine]

I dislike the fact that they don't include a slider we could use for N64/DC, 3DS and in reduced capacity GCN/PS2 tho

especially if this has the D900 or possibly even a SD865 version

[unkempt frost]

Certain games will be fine, but a lot will be non-starters

[ashen vault]

It’s not unlikely

Surely you don’t need active cooling for a g99

[delicate ermine]

and given how they made space for six buttons on the Saturn version, two additional buttons on the Gameboy Color ones (preferably in the shell color) to accommodate N64 would have been great

[unkempt frost]

Not necessary, but the ZPG A1 Unicorn has active cooling.

[delicate ermine]

you don't really, D900 is the most likely SoC, especially since the probably have a few thousand laying around, after the RP4 sold like 3 units

[ashen vault]

So does the flip 1 but that’s overkill in those instances

[unkempt frost]

Yeah, not necessary, but they still do it

[ashen vault]

Them reusing d1100 chipsets for the flip 2 makes this feasible as well

[simple robin]

This a great Saturn game

[solemn sentinel]

Oh god I watched a video about this game

[summer marsh]

Yeah I need to play more of the English translation but from what I played was awesome.

Atmosphere is incredible especially on my crt 🙂

[simple robin]

It came to PSX and later the PS2. The PS2 game changes the game a lot.

[brittle tiger]

See that’s why I’m asking for them to do external add-on joysticks for a grip, so that we can at least have them for games where we would want the grip anyways.
#899870033331761173 message

Like, just this (but better) for the Classic as the ergo grip instead of the usual TPU one would work out as a pretty nice solution.

[ebon forum]

Do we got one of these for the brick?

This looks fire

[late rock]

Only the one that was posted on reddit so far

[ebon forum]

I pray for their Etsy to be up everyday

[late rock]

This with pass-through charging would be really nice

[ebon forum]

Just like I pray for Sean to say the words "super SP"

[late rock]

How many devices do we have to get through to reach that again?

[delicate ermine]

29

[modest mantle]

Any new news? Costs $29?

[delicate ermine]

lol nah, nothing new, just trolling Huffi by saying MagicX has 29 devices in line before we get a Super SP

[brittle tiger]

Yup, it’s pretty much the best solution in my eyes for people who don’t want a stick or slider on the default handheld (although a slider would be more than fine), while also ensuring people who want analog controls can have a joystick or 2 for games that use them.

[late rock]

It should be done more often tbh

[brittle tiger]

Well, I can imagine the reason they don’t do it often is because it would likely require more work than they would like (given it was apparently already difficult for GameKiddy).

But then again, GameKiddy already has a hard time making a properly working OS in the first place, so maybe it’s not actually as difficult as they made it seem?

[late rock]

True, definitely not something that would be viable for every cheap run of the mill handheld, but would be nice to have more options for more premium handhelds

[brittle tiger]

I imagine all that would really be needed is for Retroid to make an optional “Joystick mode” that makes the USB-C port search for analog inputs coming from the proprietary joystick grips to input to the actual built-in controller.

[delicate ermine]

i still don't get why they didn't incorporate a stick or rather slider into the design tho

just one lil slider

[brittle tiger]

This itself wouldn’t be automatic, but it’s already 1 more idea than what was out there.

[delicate ermine]

ahhh the picture on their website has some useless text

[lament cloud]

For real Retroid wth

There is still time for redemption, have faith

[late rock]

That oled screen is doing a lot of heavy lifting to make this a viable option lmao

[magic rover]

Not having a stick is my favorite thing about this.

[lament cloud]

Then you got this guy right here

[magic rover]

Just a good old slab to go in the pocket, only this can (probably) run things and the fancier shaders.

[delicate ermine]

still want a slider for N64/DC and 3DS

[void mortar]

There's other people here who also like that it doesn't have sliders or sticks.
Which is exactly why I'm very adamant about a controller grip being a potential solution for the people that want sliders/sticks (I'm among those who wants sliders)

[delicate ermine]

a grip would be a solution that sucks tho

[unkempt frost]

https://twitter.com/Retroid0fficial/status/1897363905489592468

Retroid Pocket Official (@Retroid0fficial) on X

@dingus_khan_TG @Zerokulle

X · Mar 5, 2025, 7:09 PM

Official image of it

I wish the green was a bit closer to the OG but otherwise 🔥

[delicate ermine]

I'm kinda tempted to just grab the Ayaneo Pocket DMG at this point

[unkempt frost]

The green should have a weeeee bit of a blue tint

[delicate ermine]

just that one can't do that, as it's not available on their website

[brittle tiger]

Why would it? It would be the more likely solution than them stopping what they’re doing to modify the shell they already have designed for a slider, since that would cost a shit ton for the molds.

[delicate ermine]

as already said on the Retroid discord, as if they have any molds already

[eager rain]

I wish this had a black bezel

[delicate ermine]

yeah they doing this and the DMG color no favors by making the bezel grey

[eager rain]

its gonna be hard to pick between the saturn variant with the sinky grey bezel or one of the GBC colours with only four face buttons

[delicate ermine]

may be less hard to do when the GBC colors are all D900, while the Saturn is SD865

[stone ice]

it would acutally be cheaper to do that over designing a whole new mold for an addon plus figuring out how to make it work smoothly in software

[brittle tiger]

They would definitely have to before they even start doing pre-orders, given they kind of need those before they can start manufacturing.

Only thing we don’t know is if they’re already done and just doing shells for test builds, or if they’re currently having them made right now, or if they maybe haven’t actually sent the design yet.

[brittle tiger]

I’m talking about it in dependence on what they might already have made.

[late rock]

Makes you wonder 🤔

[brittle tiger]

If they already have the molds developed, then they’d still be able to develop something else, since I can’t really expect them to have done a TPU grip just yet.

[delicate ermine]

yeah, that's what I said when they came up with this stupid add-on

[late rock]

I like the add on though

[delicate ermine]

not a fan tbh, just put a slider below the d-pad

[late rock]

Well that would be ideal but not sure how likely it is at this point

[delicate ermine]

like literally just copy the stupid Pocket DMG or I'm going to buy that if I can find it available somewhere

[brittle tiger]

Don’t mind them, they’re only solution is to either convince Retroid to halt whatever stage of production they’re currently in just to redesign the device, or to shell out like 2x to 3x the money it would likely cost just to get an AYANEO DMG.

[late rock]

I kind of wish they made three different versions tbh

One with four face buttons, one with six, and one with two analogs

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

All in all this handheld won't be a priority to me right now. Oh well, back to onexsugar and Magicx hype

[delicate ermine]

gotta kick Sean to make the Pocket DMG screen handheld happen sooner

[obsidian roost]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-smell-wwe-gif-15877234124744977095

[steady mortar]

Oooooo this is niceeeeee

[pliant kite]

So, I’m confused. Will there new two different versions with different face buttons?

[delicate ermine]

yes

[obsidian roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1j467tp/rpclassic_size_estimations_based_on_reuse_of_dpad/

[ebon forum]

huffi??

also how are you to troll me if i have every magicx handheld basically memorized

notifications when sean speaks a word

[wintry pecan]

overlaid on a real DMG

[twin comet]

im glad they didnt

i know people will tell me otherwise but i still feel like analogs on a form factor like this is kinda useless

wouldnt be comfortable at all to use and more of a gimmick

[delicate ermine]

man, this really needs bigger face buttons

and more chin

[delicate ermine]

yes, huffi

[ebon forum]

vaguely comeditc

[unkempt frost]

I'm glad it doesn't have a huge chin. That's something that can be handled by a grip if you need it. Easy to add bulk, hard to remove.

[wintry pecan]

its nearly as big as a DMG, i dunno what yall want lol

those things were chonky af

[hexed sigil]

This, everyone claiming they want another actual DMG are talking a lot of hot air. Delete the joystick from the 40XXv and that's as close as you're going to get and even that got criticized for pocketability.

[wintry pecan]

i DO want a chonky boy, this will do nicely

[unkempt frost]

I didn't have my 405V for long, but I liked the chonk

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-stan-smith-the-thickness-thickness-thick-gif-20602743

[analog thunder]

I just got a 406v, I like it. This should have more chinny chin chin

[hexed sigil]

A grip ain't gonna give you a bigger battery though. After shoving a 5000mah battery in the XXv I can't go back.

[analog thunder]

I like the idea of revisiting that one handheld with the attachable joystick bottom thingy, that would be fun

[delicate ermine]

it needs to be GBC shaped, cuz that's the most comfortable vertical ever made

[wintry pecan]

someone already made a GOOD mockup

[delicate ermine]

ah neat

THAT I would buy

but I would prefer it if the B/A would be shell color and the ABYX would be normal tbh

[delicate ermine]

who made this and has this already been posted on the Retroid Discord?

we have to annoy the shit out of them to make it happen

[wintry pecan]

found it in RG server, and yes, was posted last night, but def annoy chris more

[modest mantle]

Dude. This is amazing

[wintry pecan]

lemme forward for credit lol

[modest mantle]

But people on the no sticks on an overpowered vertical be like

[wintry pecan]

scroll up a bit there and theres some more too

[modest mantle]

Like it's weird they didn't center the speaker. That bottom left corner is just begging for something

[delicate ermine]

dude, I'm not even demanding two sticks, just a single one

they need to learn to compromise

[modest mantle]

They'll add it on the Retroid Pocket Classic 2 next year

[delicate ermine]

I'm gonna break someones neck then

honestly, like that mock-up (albeit in better colors and I certainly would insist on the extra A/B being in the shell-color) and with an SD865 and I would be totally down

[modest mantle]

It'd fit a niche that's not satisfied

[floral current]

so they're making a 6button one eh

[modest mantle]

Especially for us poor people

[floral current]

might actually consider it now

[delicate ermine]

you gonna riot with us for the perfect N64 vertical, no Saturn for you

[floral current]

I'm all for it

[novel crane]

n64 overrated

[merry mango]

i want a retroid pocket classic

[stable atlas]

More buttons, more choices.

[merry mango]

wish it was a clamshell, but ill take it

[lament cloud]

I wish it was a slide

[merry mango]

thatd be cool too, although the screen wouldnt be protected like in a clamshell

[stable atlas]

Are Retroid and Ayaneo related? Don't think it's a coincidence that there's a Pocket Micro Classic and Pocket Classic around the same time.

[merry mango]

dont think so

or did you mean retroid and ayn

[stable atlas]

No Ayanaeo. They have a Pocket Micro Classic (Pocket Micro without analog sticks) that went pre-order.

[merry mango]

why isnt your name 55SeventyFour instead

[stable atlas]

that would be crazy

[junior fox]

DMG means original Game Boy

DMG != Game Boy Color

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[stable atlas]

Yes, they look nothing like each other 🙂

[lament beacon]

Definitely going to buy this

[junior fox]

Alexa, what’s the chip gonna be?

[merry mango]

already have a bunch of verticals, but none have 6 face buttons

...and none of them oled

[floral current]

H700

[merry mango]

glad i didnt get the aya dmg

[modest mantle]

I still might

[merry mango]

why tho

[modest mantle]

Power + no stick = trimui brick

For half the price. Or a third

[merry mango]

i guess. i wouldnt be doing higher emulation on this non widescreen anyway

[modest mantle]

Id play some stuff with a stick that would look alright tho

PS1, n64

Some ps2

Gamecube, shit some psp

Shit even Wii runs in 4:3

Really until you get to Wii U. S865 plus stick would have been dope

[merry mango]

i figured i would just use my rp5 for those. but i get your point

[modest mantle]

For sure. This might be easier to slip in a pocket tho

[analog thunder]

Is this a joke or reality

[modest mantle]

I joked about it earlier

[floral current]

Reality

Better believe it

[merry mango]

id still buy it depending on the price lol

and get rid of my other verticals (rg35+, rg40, brick)

[delicate ermine]

I kinda don't know where I stand on this

if it's a $59 device with a weak SoC but the Pocket DMG screen that would be kinda fun, but a weird combination

if it's a more powerful SoC like the D900 it would be too expensive for what you can play with the controls, like $119 at least I presume

and for the Saturn version one would ideally want the SD865, which would run at $179 most likely

[junior fox]

I would get that one if they made it

[delicate ermine]

then again, I don't like the Saturn colors too much (they should have made two colors for that model)

like the RG-ARC

[junior fox]

It begs for one stick though

[modest mantle]

If it has good docking support id maybe consider a powerhouse. But then I already have more powerful stuff hooked up to my TV anyway

[unkempt frost]

https://tenor.com/view/letterkenny-wayne-mcmurray-your-terms-gif-25959652

[delicate ermine]

yeah, like I can dock a freaking Odin 2 or Ayaneo Slide

[modest mantle]

I'm sure most of us have a better solution for that

[delicate ermine]

ideally I would have prefered a Pocket DMG clone with SD865 for like $189

[junior fox]

That’s what I was hoping for

[merry mango]

i just want vertical oled........

or clamshell sp oled

[junior fox]

There’s still a chance this could be a clamshell

It’s just a render

[modest mantle]

If you bend hard enough every vertical can become a clamshell

[junior fox]

Start training now to get that grip strength up 💪

[merry mango]

oled is bendable....

[junior fox]

Retroid fold diy mod

[twin comet]

No... Please no analog stick

[wild beacon]

this is what I was expecting as well to be honest

we don't know specs yet but seems like they are going for a cheaper price range

[merry mango]

ive never used the analog stick on my rg40

...but also i havent used the rg40v in general lol

[delicate ermine]

yeah most likely D900 for $119 I think

[wild beacon]

that's a reasonable guess

[junior fox]

There was a website that shows what chipsets are capable of in relation to emulation. Does anybody have that, by chance?

[modest mantle]

Retrocatolog you can lookup systems at least

Wish they had a chip set search

Would be cool to know which other handhelds are running soc X

[junior fox]

Yeah, that would be cool

[merry mango]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1irg60f9qsZOkhp0cwOU7Cy4rJQeyusEUzTNQzhoTYTU/edit?pli=1#gid=0

[rough depot]

It's just too much money for the use case at this point for me to be interested and I'm mourning even though it hasn't been confirmed

If they price it at RP2S range I'd be more interested but it's still just another dpad only device

[delicate ermine]

even if they sell it for $59 it would still have $16 shipping and $15 vat slapped on top

any device below $170 bucks is already questionable due to getting auto-vatted for us EU folks

like ultimately if it's $119 the final price would be $160, with a Pocket DMG clone for $189 and SD865 I would have gladly paid the grand total of $207

[rough depot]

Exactly, I was hoping for the DMG clone with the 865, better stick placement, and a more appropriate power level/price point

I would pay 200 for that, but not 120 for what this design offers

And like you say 120 is basically 150 with the taxes and shipping anyway

And for those saying it could be a dockable, imo there are so many better devices to dock for what I'd use this for... Or I'd just play on PC anyway lol

And then it doesn't matter that it has the nice screen anyway

[delicate ermine]

also SD865 would have Linux 😩

which is like a major point for that screen, if you want like Pico8 stuff

[steady flower]

Well, we have to wait for SOC/screen/OS specs

[delicate ermine]

if this ain't a D900 and maybe a SD865 option (which would at least make some sense in the Saturn version of this), then I would be absolutely surprised

[merry mango]

would the 6 face button version have less shoulder buttons?

[delicate ermine]

unlikely

[lament cloud]

What systems only need a d pad but use 6 buttons

[delicate ermine]

Saturn

which would profit from SD865, due to being able to run Beetle Core

[distant widget]

D900 has issue with beetle? Remember seeing it runs fine (at least a few games) from Russ review before

[delicate ermine]

fine for a lot, but not everything

[distant widget]

Which ones are the hardest to run for Saturn?

[delicate ermine]

probably Panzer Dragoon, Nights and Virtua Fighter 2 🤔
not too interested in Saturn tbh, so that's just a guess

[merry mango]

i just think of arcade fighting games

[wintry pecan]

wish whoever owns retrocatalog or retrosizer would add the ayaneo dmg so we can compare it to a gameboy/color

[delicate ermine]

probably more like DMG sized, isn't it?

DMG, rgb20sx, GBC, the Classic is most likely wider than the rgb20sx, due to the screen not being 1:1 but rather 31:27, so I would imagine a DMG with with GBC high?

[wintry pecan]

the gbc is a better metric, only because a LOT MORE people had one

or still have one for that matter 😄

[delicate ermine]

they sold a lot more Gameboys

[ebon forum]

Why is the Saturn so shenaniganistic?

Were they actually running at max power with one CPU?

Was that the most they could manage with one?

So they had to merge?

[wintry pecan]

wikipedia says 118 million total between DMG and gbc with 66 million going to gameboy DMG before the color released, so its gonna be a pretty even split actually, even tho im sure they sold more DMGs

[delicate ermine]

just because

and we are talking mostly about Beetle Core, which is unfortunately the only emulator that isn't going to mess up a bunch of games, so yeah, MORE POWER

would be pretty disappointing for the Saturn fanboys if the Classic only runs an A133P

the riots that will happen

even worse than with the RG-ARC

[novel crane]

I would take a t618

Vs a A133p

[simple robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336037750889250960/1339784547235139634/IMG_7684.gif

[nova kayak]

This is terrifying, thanks!

[simple robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915380034833895434/1339999916642013194/IMG_7614.gif

[summer marsh]

Wait what is this real????

Omg it is

[unkempt frost]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-absolutely-definitely-agree-gif-8251967

[summer marsh]

wtf…if this has the dmg OLED and can play beetle Saturn this is truly a dream device for me

Wow

[unkempt frost]

Same here

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-david-cross-tobias-funke-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-gif-5426075

[summer marsh]

Trying to not get too excited because I don’t want to deal with the disappointment. However I can’t see Retroid pulling an rg arc situation

[wild beacon]

you need a beefy chip to run beetle, anything less than a sd865 won't cut it

I... would lower my expectations there

[unkempt frost]

If we're already going to be paying extra for the six buttons (it's the only colorway with six buttons), then it just might have a beefy chip.

But I could see them slapping a weaker chip in there.

I just hope they don't.

[wild beacon]

I don't disagree but leaving the sticks out suggests weaker chip

[summer marsh]

You may be right, though I think there’s a decent market for a cheaper ayaneo dmg. Why not reuse the chip they’re supporting in their other systems

I’m kind of expecting a few configurations like the flip

Some extra power for us Saturn homies 😉

You can ask me to put of the clown makeup if I’m wrong, until then I’m riding the hopium train

[bright plinth]

D900 and SD865 options let's gooo

[wild beacon]

I'm with you there, a cheaper but still beefy Ayaneo DMG competitor would have a market

but yeah no sticks = very likely not beefy

[summer marsh]

I don’t necessarily think so. Like yeah the dmg was way overpowered, but some of us appreciate being able to run accurate emulators with nice shaders.

Yeah even stuff like snes and ps1

People who don’t care about that can grab a Miyoo or a brick still

[modest mantle]

I love you replication perfectionists. I'll probably be there one day. But it's probably such a minority in the market, I don't think Retroid is targeting you

They probably aren't targeting me either. Which is fine. But I have big doubts they'd do a stickless s865. The higher price that's bring would kill most interest. If Ayaneo left even the one stick off the DMG people would think they're even crazier

[rose dove]

Why would they only make 1 different? What if each colour is its own flavor somehow?

[mossy crow]

that would be a production/logistics nightmare

[summer marsh]

who are they targeting then? They're not targeting the low end market with any of their handhelds.

Even their more affordable ones like RP2S punched above their weight with price/performance. People acting like they gonna throw in an A133P since it doesn't have sticks.

[modest mantle]

i mean there's a whole midrange group of systems that can't play on the lower ones

many of which play better with sticks

makes sense they'd offer premium quality in the budget realm

if they can bring this in whith a chip that plays up to saturn that would be sufficient enough for this, not sure why they'd go higher

T820, RK3588S, D900, T618, etc.

Putting something in that can also play Gamecube, Wii, 3DS and PS2 with no sticks is just wasted space

I could def see a T618 tho

[summer marsh]

Those can't play saturn well though, if you are playing saturn well you can basically play gc or ps2 lol

Listen, I admit that some of this is hopium on my part, though I highly doubt they put anything less than a T618 in it and likely higher (or have two configurations)

[modest mantle]

i just can't imagine the number of saturn fanatics is high enough to justify putting that soc in every one, especially ones with only 4 buttons

now they might do 2 different skus

and have the 6 button one have the T618, but then you're still looking at like what, near $100

i'd be shocked if the saturn version outsold the basic ones unless there really are that many people dying to play saturn on a vertical

[nocturne gazelle]

I dont think the screen they're using is going to make it that cheap no matter what chip

its like a $40 part

[modest mantle]

right, which makes it even crazier to not go with a stronger chip and at least one stick at that point

[nocturne gazelle]

assuming its the same oled ayaneo used

[modest mantle]

either way it seems like a total cluster as far as capability goes, heh

i mean i'm all for 5 diff skus, but at most i'd expect 2

like the flip 2

[rose dove]

https://youtu.be/tI0pi-TlmaA?si=EPlXUvAKe9c_slFI

[nocturne gazelle]

Honestly wasnt expecting the saturn one, doing a whole extra mold for one sku is pretty wild

[modest mantle]

it is pretty wild, i mean maybe they were able to modularize it to some degree

would be funny if when you opened it up it had the solder spots for the 6 buttons on the others

and only the shell and buttons changed

[nocturne gazelle]

I could see a daughter board for the controls but honestly pcb's en masse are fairly cheap

[modest mantle]

i also don't get why you wouldn't just throw 6 on everything, the last thing people complain about is having too many buttons on an emulation device

[nocturne gazelle]

its the cost of the plastic mold thats hard to recoup

[modest mantle]

who knows, maybe they're testing the water, and might release more saturn model colors

but yeah, i have to imagine they're doing it to clear stock

[nocturne gazelle]

I think they're banking on the 4 button selling more, lets be honest people reeeee for 6 button but I rarely see people posting they actually bought any previous models that did it

hell half the people that reee about it genuinely dont know stuff like the A19/20 exists (probably because it also had shitty software)

[modest mantle]

well it might be the same people who will actually buy them, but when it's dozens you just don't see it that much XD

[nocturne gazelle]

rip retroid then

https://tenor.com/view/joe-exotic-tiger-king-never-recover-financially-broke-gif-16765645

[modest mantle]

haha, they'll be alright

especially if they're selling off capable socs they have stocked

it's not like they don't sell enough rp5s and rp flip 2s to take up their s865 stock by themselves

[eager rain]

so far I'm not aware of a single 6 button handheld that can actually emulate saturn well

hoping this is an sd865 so it can be the first.

[nocturne gazelle]

None yet for saturn but saturn isnt the only sega system to use 6 button

[eager rain]

So my only thing there is that yes, there was a 6 button controller for Genesis/megadrive but outside of fighting games the games that could even use those 3 extra buttons let alone need them are slim pickings

[nocturne gazelle]

well I hope this appeases the sega fans this time

[lyric flax]

Yeah I hope they learned from the arc

[unkempt frost]

If it's targeting the Genesis/Megadrive, then they shouldn't be using Saturn colors.

They did that with the Arc and it wound up being a major disappointment for Saturn

[summer marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-wayne-campbell-it-will-be-mine-only-mine-gif-17354985

if they’re crazy enough to put in sd865 what saturn games are you looking forward to playing on this?

I have a long list but a few I would really love:
Shining the Holy Ark
Guardian Heroes
Radiant Silvergun
Sakura Taisen (and the sequel when the english patch is released soon)

[unkempt frost]

I wanna give Princess Crown a shot. And Choro Q Park.

[night crag]

To summarize the speculation, d900 for the 4 button to drives the nice? screen with some higher end shaders for snes and the like. SD865 for the 6 button for saturn emulation. That seems reasonable to me

[pseudo dove]

This is turning into such a weird device. I prefer the aesthetic of the 4 buttons and can still play the couple of systems that have a 6 button design fine.. if you’re having a 6 button device just go 4:3

Devices that have 3 inline or 6 buttons, Saturn, mega drive, 3do, jaguar, n64 not sure what else. all 4:3

[onyx jungle]

I wonder what chip this will have? Maybe retroid pocket 3+ equivalent?

I think I might get the green, it’s hard to say no to green.

[simple grove]

Back baby

Ergo buttons but not analog but that was expected

[pseudo dove]

2 vents you guys gonna lose it

[simple grove]

Looks like it has a GBC curve 🍑

[void mortar]

Blue back on the yellow model like the Pokemon Yellow GBC, neat.

[simple grove]

HQ pics

[stone ice]

so it has a slight booty?

looking good

[ashen vault]

sd865 for $175

[stone ice]

i might cope with the ps vita dpad

[civic stream]

Active cooling 👀

[void mortar]

Curved back is nice, but that pretty much likely removes any chance of a controller grip too x3 (not that it was ever anything more than a what if anyhow).
Still, active cooling, eh?

[stone ice]

shame about the flared bumpers, i wanted a more flat design

[void mortar]

99% safe to say it’s not a cheaper chip then, right?
As far as I know, I don’t see active cooling at all on H700 type devices or similar

[ashen vault]

Pls don’t use grips on verticals

[stone ice]

please don't use grips on anything

[ashen vault]

Well I saw g99 devices with active cooling and even the y
T618 flip 1 had it

[stone ice]

my eyes will thank you