Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[fathom geyser]

The mini was the closest and I didn’t like the colors or the design language, then screen gate happened lol

[sour ore]

Oh

[fathom geyser]

But yes I fuckin’ love clamshells

[copper sequoia]

That’s my one silver lining to the tariffs here— hopefully will make me stop collecting these things

[sour ore]

Was the screen issue that big?

[sour ore]

I have seen that feeling a few times looking at reddit and other places

[fathom geyser]

It’s bad/annoying if you notice it and like keeping ur emulation looking mostly accurate, but there was a lot of people still happy with their Minis

[sour ore]

Oh, i probably would have been annoyed by it then hahah

[fathom geyser]

Especially if u use certain shaders it’s noticeable

[sour ore]

Very unfortunate

[strange glen]

That’s a good plan. Delete Discord, Reddit and YouTube. Otherwise your plan will fail

[naive hollow]

I thought yes at first. then anbernic went on a 4 month hiatus and i was depressed

[sour ore]

I'll intend to do that, except I guess to read about how to squeeze all the possibilities out of the device I end up with

[copper burrow]

not really 😄 i dont depend on them to live so doesnt really bother me

[prime bronze]

There’s always another Russ, Dweeb, or RH video nearly everyday

[sour ore]

I asked mostly because of the large number of them releasing constantly,

[copper burrow]

fair 😄 but no, doesn't really impact me. If i see something i like enough to pick up, I will, though i trying to keep my lineup more streamlined these days

[jolly kayak]

To be fair, many folks just joined retro handhelds like a year or two ago, and flip 2 seems to be the unicorn we've been waiting for.

Like, we've already hit the ceiling of emulation with Steam Deck. No more power is necessary. There's like ps3 and Xbox but, is that retro xD

[sour ore]

It was the flip 2 that made me at last think about getting one of these devices too

[jolly kayak]

The emulators there are also not mature

[sour ore]

I mean, it takes quite some time for emulators to find their groove, it's easy to forget how many years of progress some have, decades even

[copper burrow]

flip 2 looks lovely, think it'll be about £220ish to ship to UK?

[sacred kindle]

I guess it will in 2 years 👴

[copper burrow]

the powerful clamshell that can do android or linux is awesome

[naive hollow]

is flip 2 strong enough to emulate steam deck

[coral valley]

🤔

[gentle badge]

No

[sour ore]

what is there to emulate, though?

[gentle badge]

The s8g2 is roughly steam deck apu equivalent in arm/mobile land but you lose some performance emulating x86 stuff on arm so to get deck like performance via winlator you’d need s8g3 or better I think

[sacred kindle]

yeah just get a steam deck at this point or sacrifice your soul to Gabe for a smaller form factor steam deck

[gentle badge]

But s8g2 is very comparable if not better in some cases vs steam deck when using arm native emulators

(For stuff like ps2)

[coral valley]

Steamdeck clamshell would go so hard

[gentle badge]

Once PC handhelds fully switch to arm we might be able to retire Android handhelds tbh

[sacred kindle]

Realistically-speaking a steam deck with slide-in mechanic similar to GPD would be also nice

[coral valley]

We can only hope, first qualcomm needs to get it together

[fathom geyser]

Android is cool with me for a few more years, I might upgrade possibly later but I like Android

[sour ore]

then it would be linux all the way, or what exactly

[gentle badge]

Honestly I have more hope for someone else who is actually serious about PCs than I do for a phone chip maker to finally make a good PC chip given they’ve already failed a dozen times

At a certain point Microsoft must be thinking they should do it themselves like Apple did rather than rely on Qualcomm’s failures

[coral valley]

Yeah, I'm just not sure if AMD would considering they're pretty much the best at igpus for x86 gaming right nown

[naive hollow]

intel is catching up

[versed vigil]

Eh, I’d only want that once Valve has those Arm-Proton builds ready for public use.

[coral valley]

Lunar lake is really good, but AFAIK they might not be doing something like it again, and amd also has strix halo

[sacred kindle]

strix halo steam deck would be really nice but it would also cost thousand bucks 🫣

[naive hollow]

I'd rather them stick with one chips set and work on improving the drivers as opposed to them releasing a new chip every year with 20% better performance with 2x the price and power draw

[coral valley]

Well they are hardware manufacturers 🤷‍♂️ gotta get money somehow

[sacred kindle]

valve can cut some losses with their storefront tho

[naive hollow]

only so much tho

[gentle badge]

The big improvements of strix halo (for our purposes) are from better memory bandwidth and integration, but it’s way bigger of a CPU than we need in a gaming handheld. Just wait for those memory bandwidth improvements to trickle down to lower wattage gaming APUs like the z3e or z4e

[sacred kindle]

aw okay

[coral valley]

On the plus side yearly releases also usually means that older models are cheaper on the aftermarket

[sacred kindle]

yeah and ill probably have saved more money by then

[gentle badge]

Basically we need the 395+ iGPU paired with a smaller cpu at a lower tdp (the same thing the z2e is doing based on the 370)

[sacred kindle]

think we'll get that next year

?

[gentle badge]

Yes or something equivalent

I’ll be sticking to z1e and waiting for z3e or a deck 2, z2e looks nice but not enough above z1e for me to switch

[sacred kindle]

hell I'll take a z1e on the steam deck just so I can play AAA at a stable 30 fps

never was able to finish Veilguard as it began dipping to 20fps halfway through

[gentle badge]

Ally X is what I’ve got and it’s nice but $$$$ to get the 80whr battery the z1e needs to actually use that power without plugging in

[rose swift]

Steam deck not getting an upgrade until at least mobile rdna4, and most likely not until mobile udna

[gentle badge]

I don’t think there will be a mobile rnda4 I think they’re skipping it

I expect next year we get udna

I’m not expecting anything worth replacing my ally X over this year, though the go 2 might have enough improvements in non-chipset areas (the screen mostly) to be tempting

[formal latch]

Honestly wish I didn't get the OG Ally so I could have gotten the X... I like the Ally fine, but it's battery life is just so terrible

[coral valley]

There are quite a few battery mods if you're interested

[sour ore]

how bad it is?

[noble canyon]

Switch 2

[gentle badge]

if I can install bazzite on the switch 2 I'll look at it, but as is I'm not thrilled by the massive power gulf between handheld and docked

limited to like 10w total package power not even TDP in handheld mode because of the tiny battery and fan

[coral valley]

Don't own an ally but usually around an hour on the highest tdp, sometimes a little less

[gentle badge]

yeah you can easily burn a little north of 40 watts total system draw on an ally/X

I would argue you never actually want to set TDP that high though

the GPU stops gaining anything before that so unless you're doing something very CPU constrained no reason to beyond 25w TDP (35-ish total draw)

a lot of the time I'm doing more like 15-20w TDP

[sour ore]

wow... that's awful

[gentle badge]

memory bandwidth is your choke point on the z1e (and is also where the choke point will be on the z2e - which is why I expect to be able to hit that choke at lower wattage but not actually improve much on the top end performance with the next gen of these)

[coral valley]

Yeah, we got a ways to go for handheld pcs

[gentle badge]

the deck APU actually performs super well at the same TDPs as retro handhelds

embarassing AMD won't sell it to anyone else and hasn't made anything better in the sub 10 watt sphere

[coral valley]

AFAIK the new msi claw is the second best when it comes to performance at lower tdps, followed by the hx370

[rigid thicket]

In fairness, most of the time you wouldn't play something that requires it to run full power without having access to an outlet.

Like, just due to the nature of those games requiring you to kind if settle in for a decent play length.

Moooost "on the go" or quick play games can run comfortably at low TDP.

My Steamdeck is almost always set to I think 5 or 8 TDP.

[gentle badge]

yeah I hate that the ally X has to run at 10 kinda minimum while the deck could run a lot of indies at 5/6

[coral valley]

I usually aim for balance tdp on my legion go when on battery, which I think is targeting 10 tdp for the soc

[gentle badge]

the deck also has lower overhead above and beyond tdp (lower draw from other stuff like controls, wifi, etc)

[coral valley]

It does get pretty toasty when playing plugged in unfortunately, but I suppose that comes with the territory

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, chasing high end handheld PCs is still a bit early right now I think.

Steam Deck is just a great all around device.

Outside the size.

[gentle badge]

my only complaint with it tbh is the 800p screen

[rigid thicket]

Because yeesh thing is a chungus.

[gentle badge]

it can't run 3d titles at 1080p with that apu for the most part but more res for retro/indies and FSR upscaling would be nice

the y700/legion go screen is amazing for pixel art

[tacit latch]

GPD Win Mini just called

[coral valley]

I dont know if I want to shell out 1k for that tbh

[rigid thicket]

A clamshell Steam Deck would be cheaper since Valve can take a small hit and have better support in general on all fronts.

[gentle badge]

plus I'd rather have the deck apu than a 370

[rigid thicket]

Better software, better RMA/parts support, and better dev support because devs will develop with the SD in mind.

[gentle badge]

and no thumb keyboard hopefully

I'd rather just have the deck controls

typing with the dual touchpads is actually pretty nice

[rigid thicket]

Like, games post SD are made with the SD in mind. Other PC handhelds have to just brute force with specs and hope it works out.

It's a side benefit of not releasing a new revision every year too.

[coral valley]

Well I mean, I can still use the steam deck presets on my legion go

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, other PC handhelds definitely benefit too.

[gentle badge]

yeah I actually love the 1600p because you can just run it at 800 via integer scaling in linux

1080p on the ally kinda commits you to running stuff at higher res since upscaling 720->1080 can look bad

[rigid thicket]

It's kind of why I think Valve won't ever aim for high end handheld PC even if they do do a Steam Deck 2.

[gentle badge]

but I just couldn't do the legion go from a battery/controls/speakers/fan noise perspective

oh they aren't going beyond 15 watts

they're waiting to get an actual generational leap at 15 watt tdp

which I think will happen as soon as the memory bandwidth gains of strix halo trickle downward, probably next year

[rigid thicket]

Exciting times all around.

[coral valley]

Oh yeah the fan noise is horrendous lmao, could just be my unit but there's pretty much always a whine even on lower tdps

[gentle badge]

if the deck 2 is 1600p so it can run like a deck 1 at 800p and sticks to 15 watt tdp I'm buying one day one

[coral valley]

My main problem with the legion go is really just its battery life, unfortunately it doesn't get as much love as the rog ally when it comes to community battery mods

[limpid ledge]

I rather 1080p or 1200p

[gentle badge]

I'd take 1200p

would you rather have oled or VRR if you had to choose?

[coral valley]

Probably oled tbh

[gentle badge]

same

as long as I can still manually adjust refresh like on the deck

[coral valley]

Vrr is nice but most of the time games I play are at a relatively stable framerate

[gentle badge]

I relied on VRR on my ally X when it was running windows but now that I'm on bazzite I'm just using framerate caps like on the deck

[coral valley]

Is it like riva tuner where you can set it on a game by game basis?

[gentle badge]

yeah, steamOS in gaming mode lets you set TDP, V sync, VRR, refresh rate, frame rate cap, etc etc etc (every performance setting) on a per game basis.

all via the little panel that pops out on the right with a single button press

it's slick

even what method is uses to scale up if the game res output doesn't match your screen res

integer scaling, FSR, bilinear, etc

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, I'm thinking hold onto my Ally X until at least something new that supports the new Micro SD Express cards like the Switch 2 - easily swappable storage that fast could actually be pretty nice. 🙂

And hopefully the Micro SD Express cards will be reasonable prices by then 😅

[limpid ledge]

Mmmmm I like oled but I like vrr

[coral valley]

Yeah that sounds a lot better than sifting though a bunch of disjointed apps. I really need to dual boot

[limpid ledge]

I would choose vrr

[wintry oxide]

I mean it's nice, but I do think the OLED obsession is overblown at times

[limpid ledge]

Innit good lcd is enough for me

[gentle badge]

A good lcd is good enough compared to OLED but also fully manual refresh rate adjustment like the STOLED is also good enough for me

As long as I can go up to 75hz for wonderswan and MS dos

And do 40fps-ish cap for harder 3d titles

So like free adjustment between 60 and 90hz is good enough

[rigid thicket]

OLED is nice for battery life too depending on what games you play.

[limpid ledge]

I don't mind 90hz

[rigid thicket]

Or if you use true blacks for your interface/skin.

[gentle badge]

yeah

I think I'd pick oled over VRR as long as it was adjustable refresh like the current stoled

[jolly kayak]

STOLED looks cursed as a word xD

[restive totem]

@jolly kayak Looks like a Nu Metal band name = cursed
Just like the retroid chat = cursed

[rigid thicket]

Just looks like bad English to me.
They stoled the STOLED.

[fathom geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/limp-bizkit-mario-rapping-gif-8797496219138656154

[fast sonnet]

so how many shipping notices have come in for peeps here?

[versed vigil]

Welp, just finished the RGC review, and honestly I think this might be the one and only time I’ve ever 100% completely disagreed on something with Russ, since the fact you can see all the internals for the Clear Blue RP Flip 2 is the exact reason I like it and clear plastic devices in the first place.

[fathom geyser]

Yeah when he said none of the color choices were that great I was like what?? Compared to this??

[fathom geyser]

Even the RP5, the GC choice was the only one that was colorful

[versed vigil]

It’s also the reason why I got disappointed by the clear backplates for the RP5, since the internal stuff underneath the stock backplate is all just solid black/gray anyways. Putting a clear backplate just shows that alone, none of the cool internals or wiring, or any of the pcb’s.

[versed vigil]

Nah, I thought those were fun color options (with Orange being my favorite), my main annoyance is just that the clear backplates for the RP5 were effectively worthless for what I specifically like about clear shells. The Ice Blue is giving me what I would want in a clear shell (seeing all the neat circuitry and internal components), hence why I legit loved it the most (even if I still will miss the fact that I won’t be able to do a Flip 2 version of my Black-GC RP5 since I got Ice Blue instead).

[fathom geyser]

I would’ve given the Mini a pass if they had done gamecube, especially since it was what people wanted, but I cannot give a pass on those colors. Having white, grey, and black being your only choice for a retro themed console is sad

They aren’t even colors, they’re shades

[versed vigil]

Well no, because they were Red with a Black faceplate, Orange with a White Faceplate (well, I got and kept the gray error because I liked that better), and then you had a Saturn themed one which is a pretty rare colorway among these handhelds. Then you had plain black and 16-bit gray as the only other options.

[fathom geyser]

I’m talking about the face plate though, that is what ur going to be looking at when ur gaming

[versed vigil]

Well yeah, and that’s the issue with them using full glass front panels since they outright are paying a lot more for those custom lenses than they would for plastic with a standard-shaped lens.

[fathom geyser]

Gamecube Mini makes more sense than Saturn Mini, when you look at this photo, there is not a lot of variety because of that faceplate

[versed vigil]

Well now you’re just getting into subjective stuff since this being the first 4:3 handheld in forever to legit run Saturn well arguably makes it more worthwhile to do.

But at the same time GC being natively 4:3 also makes it arguably more logical to do it for Mini than RP5.

[fathom geyser]

I’m just saying it because the Gamecube wasn’t the most popular console, but Saturn even by comparison is way more obscure and especially in that colorway

[versed vigil]

In which that’s where we start getting to this being subjective.

[fathom geyser]

I had a Saturn, I don’t have much fond memories with it and it was black

The Mini was the whole reason I even became aware of that colorway

[limpid ledge]

People was complaining tho

Ahhh we want gamecube

Ahh this and thst

24/7 bullshit

[fathom geyser]

The only thing I would’ve changed with the Flip colorways is I would’ve added a Red…because red is cool…

[limpid ledge]

Red is beautiful

[tacit latch]

okay I watched Russ's review, I'm kinda disappointed about how thick it is, to me it was important that this was thinner for portability and it feels like they missed the mark there

[limpid ledge]

We need a little bit thickness 🤭

https://tenor.com/view/extra-thicc-extra-thicc-thick-extra-thick-gif-21812607

[vital belfry]

So you want sliders and no active cooling? 🤔

Let’s use a touchpad instead of a dpad and face buttons as well

For maximum thinness

[tacit latch]

I get that some concessions needed to be made but nonetheless

[steady osprey]

Any Canadians with 4PX have tracking numbers yet?

[tacit latch]

the second major negative for me is clacky buttons, for some reason Retroid doesn't seem to know how to make non-clacky buttons even though people complain about them often

[fathom geyser]

I def would’ve preferred a lil’ thinner too, but I think it’ll still be pocketable. It’s funny to me that some people think that retroid would able to smash an 865 into a gameboy sp body/case with no caveats, and no it just don’t work like that.

[tacit latch]

then other notable negatives appear to be fan noise and poor speakers

otherwise everything else seems to fall within the range of what you would expect

[fathom geyser]

It’ll suck if the fan is trash, speakers might be fixable tho

[tacit latch]

louder fan is probably the compromise we get with a more compact form factor but maybe Retroid can still tweak the curve

[versed vigil]

Good news (or I guess it’s technically bad news if you don’t like having to change that) is that the fan speed for high performance usually defaults to sport mode (max fan speed), but you can set it to smart mode to make it only ramp up as much as it needs to for the current APU temp.

[tacit latch]

yeah, but then Joey brought up that at least on his unit, quiet mode is noticeable louder than quiet mode on the RP5

so it would appear the fan is louder across the board, not just at the highest setting

[fathom geyser]

The current speaker setup can’t be worse than the Flip 1, that shit sucks

[tacit latch]

well yeah, but it's 2025 and this is a +$200 handheld, it would be nice if the speakers were a notch above average/cheap

like the speakers on the RP5 sound acceptable but super cheap compared to how nice the rest of the handheld is

[fathom geyser]

They’re probably just not tuned well like the RP5 I’d assume

The Flip sounds better out of the box than the 5 imo, but it has the opposite problem

The 5 has too much highs/sounds tinny, the Flip needs more highs/sounds lil’ muffled

[plush silo]

To be perfectly fair to Russ, he does say right after that it's completely subjective, but I myself completely disagreed with what he said about the Ice Blue

Also found it interesting he prefers the Odin 2 Portal for dpad gaming over the Flip 2. Would've thought the Flip 2 would be better for that, but I get his reasoning

Least he still thinks the Flip 2 is good for dpad gaming

[versed vigil]

I said pretty much the same thing in the RGC channel, and he actually did also say that he likes transparent shells for the same reasons, he mainly mentioned it as a note for anyone who would dislike it.

[plush silo]

For sure.
I completely agree with what you said about the button layout in his channel btw.
It's the exact reason the Wii U Pro Controller is my all time favorite.
It's a great "jack of all trades, master of none" kind of layout imo

It won't be the best at any particular game (though for shooters, I think it's fantastic) but it'll be good at almost if not all of them

[fluid stone]

Don't worry, you don't disagree with him

[versed vigil]

I know, he already responded the same thing to me in #🐈│retro-game-corps

[fluid stone]

[limpid ledge]

No no he allow to complain now

[tacit latch]

we are nitpicking the nitpicks now

can't wait to see what this hobby looks like in 2 years

[fathom geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-trolling-shockwave-nuke-nuclear-explosion-gif-21948424

[sleek birch]

wouldn't JamesDSP work on here, too, like it does on the RP5?

[coral valley]

Magicx will reign supreme. Powkiddy will merge with Miyoo and SJGam. GKD and Gamemt will merge. Trimui still won't have released anything. Ayn will still use 128gb for their base models, and retroid will have the only 4k Oled 4:3 screen on the market.

[naive hollow]

Anbernic will have absorbed 90% of the industry

[coral valley]

https://nypost.com/2025/04/13/us-news/iphones-and-other-chinese-made-electronics-will-likely-be-subject-to-more-trump-tariffs-commerce-secretary-lutnik-says/?utm_source=messages&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

TLDR: There won't be the full 145% tariff on the selected electronics, but there will be the 20% one with a possible semiconductor one coming soon as well.

[lunar stone]

Yeah at this point I would just wait until there is a solid we know for sure.

[gentle badge]

it's going to change 17 more times this month

then 31 the next

[lunar stone]

Literally just this Friday, tariffs weren't applying for certain electronics.

Now he saying there is but it just a different bucket...

The guy has no clue what he is talking about at this point

[mystic void]

Dam bro

It's getting to the point where I can't wait much longer and just need to go like whatever is readily available lmao

[coral valley]

On the plus side, aliexpress sale tomorrow

[lunar stone]

Yeah..... I'm not going to be buying anything

[coral valley]

I've had my eye on the rg cube, not sure if it's powerful enough though

[lunar stone]

If you do I would do it now

Or tomorrow

Finished up all my purchases today, got some last minute stuff

[coral valley]

Looks like there's a store on ali that ships from the US, so hopefully should be okay

[lunar stone]

Yeah that should be fine I think if it ships from US

Not sure if anyone posted the email from Cainiao

[opaque harbor]

glad I have not canceled my pre orders just in case

[noble canyon]

Yea not super thrilled about that

Chris made it sound like it was thinner than flip 1

But its overall just a bigger device, not by much and the shape is a lot better

But still

It’s thicker than the 35xx sp with the shoulder buttons and equivalent in thickness on the base 😦

[tranquil elbow]

I dont see how people were expecting it to be any thinner than a h700 clamshell with no active cooling

[random tulip]

Jesus. What a confusing cluster

[rigid thicket]

It's technically thinner in that the thickest point (triggers) is thinner than the Flip 1.

But the thinnest points are thicker than the Flip 1 thinnest points.

[fossil timber]

The adults in the room probably talked him down off the ledge, then he went into his big boy room and sulked, turned on the news and say they said he folded to pressure and then the insecurity kicked in and captain cheeto tried to walk it all back to puff his ego back up. I am sure this is how his entire term will go, he will cause chaos, threaten, yell, but ultimately do nothing aside from embarras his country and rip away a century of geopolitics he is not capable of understanding to cozy up to foreign leaders who think him an utter buffoon.

[noble canyon]

I’m happy it’s decently pocketable really

People complain that the 2s isn’t very pocketable when I pocket that shit all the time

Same with the mini

So a slight bump in thickness in exchange for less width and not needing to worry about sticks is great

[opaque harbor]

What is the 2s?

[plush silo]

It being thicker makes me less worried it'll accidentally slip out of my pocket

[noble canyon]

That’s also true too

My 35xx sp latches onto my pocket purely by being thicc

[random tulip]

Pretty much the definitive summary of this era. Can't wait to read the history books. Or other countries if ours are totally rewritten

[steady osprey]

A super solid $100 device Retroid made two years ago

[opaque harbor]

Oh the retroid pocket 2s

[steady osprey]

It's insane that someone would say it's not pocketable, it ABSOLUTELY is (RP2s)

[gentle badge]

I don't like exposed sticks in my pocket

so for me pocketable = stickless or clamshell

[minor dagger]

Or printed hard case

[idle shuttle]

Who tf would actually want to leave the house with an RP2S in your pocket. Especially if you were walking anywhere lmao.

Sure it fits in your pocket fine in a pinch but how big are your guys pants

[coral valley]

I think the better question is how small are yours

[naive hollow]

I could easily fit something twice the size of the 2S in my pocket

[idle shuttle]

What your phone, your keys and rp2s? Lol.

Yeah it would work but it would be annoying

[steady osprey]

Are we thinking the same device?

[naive hollow]

Most pants have more than one pocket

[idle shuttle]

Yep I assume so

[steady osprey]

It's smaller than most "plus/ultra" smart phones, only concern would be the sticks and/or triggers catching on pocket edges

I'm also typically using my back pockets

Jeans are my go to

[naive hollow]

I haven’t worn jeans in like 5 years

[coral valley]

Left pocket: Wallet and keys
Right Pocket: Phone and handheld

[steady osprey]

Front left: phone. Front right: keys. Back left: handheld. Back right: wallet

[minor dagger]

Front right: Phone
Front left: Handheld
Right leg: Headphones
Left leg: Keys

[idle shuttle]

That sounds uncomfortable af. Though when I leave the house I guess it’s a good time to touch some grass and leave the games at home.

If I bring anything it would be zero 28

[strange ivy]

What a luxury to use back pockets. Growing up in a pickpocket-heavy country, having anything in the back pocket, you might as well have a t-shirt saying “steal from me”

[coral valley]

Putting stuff in your back pockets sounds uncomfortable imo

[strange ivy]

And you gotta take everything out all the time to sit down

[restive totem]

Flip2 is too big

" For you "

https://tenor.com/view/bane-gif-2095084040278127977

[steady osprey]

What's the deal with sitting down? Seinfeld theme intensifies

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-alone-gif-18837103

What else are we suppose to do while we wait for the next console to buy?

[steady osprey]

Fair point

[random tulip]

I could fit one in my pocket but it might not be fun to walk a lot in

I put an RP5 in my pocket. But it's kinda narrow

[wintry oxide]

I can tolerate my rpmini in my pocket if I put it in a sleeve first

[wintry oxide]

No SEGA, No Care! 😜

[minor dagger]

Why is everyone going on about the pie logo thing on the top? 😂 It's not boring, that's all I care about.

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-is-so-often-misunderstood-you-dont-get-it-no-one-understands-misunderstood-marcus-cole-gif-15620722

[idle shuttle]

I like how Russ put it in his review, the lid design is anti theft protection

[random tulip]

This to be honest. Poll was rigged!

[minor dagger]

The logo indicates 25% reduced risk of theft.

[idle shuttle]

Less stress playing in the airport. Well according to Russ 😆

[minor dagger]

Problem with that theory is that you probably will only see the logo after you've already stolen the device.

"Sorry mate, I was gonna steal this from you but then I saw the logo - so here, have it back, I don't want it after all."

[idle shuttle]

No Saturn tho.....in all honestly while I love the model 2 saturn controller and think it's GOAT I enjoy a lot of these dpads depending on the game. SMW on a snes style dpad, tony hawk on ps1 style etc

[versed vigil]

Welp, now that Neo Geo is actually on here, I’m going for it.

[fast sonnet]

OG DS has a fantastic dpad, is a moderate modification of the GBA SP Dpad but it's super nice

[versed vigil]

In general all the buttons were the same type of soft but precise tactile buttons the SP had, and the only issue was how big it was, how dim the backlit transflective screen was, and nowadays how brittle the plastic is.

[coral valley]

Yeah forgot to include the saturn tbh

[idle shuttle]

all good, the people asked for sega and we got that lol

[fast sonnet]

and those issues are why I'm planning on modding the shit out of my unit to have better screens and a newer higher quality shell

[south mantle]

Buy a Switch 2

||Don’t||

[south mantle]

You still forgot to include the 360 D-pad specifically

Other doesn’t count

It needs its own category

[coral valley]

Bro you guys are killing me

[south mantle]

lol ur good

I think the idc option is always gonna win

When it gets down to it, I think people care more about stuff like positioning of the buttons/sticks

That’s the hill people tend to fight over with controllers

[coral valley]

Probably yeah, just thought it should be there just in case

[south mantle]

I mean I agree with the decision

I think any reasonable poll needs a choice like that

[random tulip]

Yeah. I mean we get used to everything pretty much. Otherwise it really limits your options

[noble canyon]

I’m 6’7

I got big shaq pockets

I sometimes pocket my 5 even

[fast sonnet]

Day bag squad rise up

[noble canyon]

I also bring a small sling bag to me on longer trips anyways

Or a big jacket pocket

[fast sonnet]

I have to carry some meds with me basically at all times so I just carry a day bag/ man purse

[naive hollow]

Day bag gang

[fast sonnet]

also reminder to carry a foldable tote in your bags for groceries and shiz

[opaque harbor]

I am curious how the flip 2 will end up being

[rapid echo]

Has anyone got a delivery date yet while using 4px? | |ᥣ || |_

[copper sequoia]

https://www.goretroid.com/pages/delivery-dashboard

Confirmed that only ice blue and Gc has shipped

[rapid echo]

Old news

[copper sequoia]

lol I looked but hadn’t seen anyone post this link yet

Maybe didn’t scroll back far enough

[quiet reef]

Yup, based black and 16mid us are still waiting

[sour ore]

I wonder if there will be revisions down the line, although the rp5 did not have them

[distant drum]

I ordered GC on 3/18 and mine hasn’t shipped.

Retroid doesn’t like me because I bought a Mini.

[steady osprey]

Oooooo Rocknix devs DO have a unit on the way to them?

[jolly grove]

Same here ):

[south mantle]

@random tulip THE DHL SWAP

[rapid echo]

So DHL upgrade was worth it. I just upgraded mine

[south mantle]

Hopefully you’ll get slotted in there fine

[copper burrow]

What things we gonna be angry at today :3

[dense heart]

I guess its worth it if you want it faster my recent AliExpress order only took about a week to clear import customs using cheap shipping - about how long it normally takes

[rapid echo]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[dense heart]

might still be worth it if it helps it clear export faster things are changing daily

[copper burrow]

It's entertaining to watch from the outside I guess

[viscid veldt]

Mmm no email on my end for ice blue

[desert canyon]

rare that black isn't the first to ship

[sleek birch]

I kinda wanna order although I have the 5 and see which form factor I like more

I was never a clamshell fan but this time I see a practical use that would benefit me

[sour ore]

If you have the possibility to buy one without making a big sacrifice, you could sell the one you like less... i am sure you'd find easily someone interested with the current situation

Or use both for different things, i don't know

[sleek birch]

Yeah... I guess, my finances are a bit limited though

[sour ore]

Yeah... I get it

I am tired of being constantly in "unprecedented times'

Once i decide on one of these thingies i'll just hide under a rock lol

[stray dagger]

you have to buy 50 more tho

[sour ore]

That's the pitfall we need to avoid

"Just one more..."

[copper burrow]

i love watching when people lack willpower and keep buying xD

[sleek birch]

Aren't you precious ... 😅

[stray dagger]

nothing to do with lack of will power if you just grab more because "it's neat"

[copper burrow]

wait, who's precious? 😄

[sleek birch]

I meant you but there might be others as well 😛

[copper burrow]

Ah, what did i do? 😮 xD

[sleek birch]

Nothing too serious, it's all in good fun :p

[copper burrow]

I usually pop in now and then and see what is making people angry for the day 😄

[stray dagger]

we always angry, no reason needed

[sleek birch]

And that's precious to you which makes you... Precious in turn! 😛

[sleek birch]

Hm... What colour to choose

The transparent doesn't feel all too novel to me because they always pick this colour for it...

It'd be nice if they offered some customisation options

[distant drum]

Well, it’s on the way now. Let’s FGoooooooo!

[restive karma]

My order for GC flip 2 was made on Mar 22 and I sent them email to cancel Apr 12. Retroid just confirmed the cancellation, and I am now planning to travel to China and buy stuff directly.

[naive hollow]

[sour ore]

Unless you buy in bulk that sounds more expnsive...

[naive hollow]

Or smuggle handhelds in and become a dealer

[sour ore]

Can't wait for something like that to happen and go horrible...

Hearing "Psssst, look what I got, it's 4 inches" from a dark alley

[opaque harbor]

Is that a miyoo mini or are you mildly interested in seeing me 😅

[sour ore]

"Yes, I am mildly inte-

• hinge breaks *

...I-I can explain!"

One question though, I thought the reinforced the hinge in the miyoos, did they such a poor job that they're breaking even more now, or is just that the reaction is being magnified?

[sage moat]

Is 16 bit not shipping till later 😨

[versed vigil]

From what I can tell, it’s a situation where “if it works, it really works, but if it doesn’t, it really doesn’t”.

[naive hollow]

Ice blue gang gang

[versed vigil]

Like, if you got a Miyoo Flip that works fine with no notable issues out of the box at all, then it’ll work as intended.

If there’s any issues at all? It’s doomed, don’t even bother considering it salvageable.

[versed vigil]

At least, that’s what it looks like from Reddit, and we all know how “trustworthy” those guys are.

(Long story short, I do think the reaction is likely overexaggerated but I wouldn’t say it’s absolutely meritless since if I had to give Reddit something, they at the very least don’t overreact to literally just nothing).

[sour ore]

I hope that's not a backhanded comment on flexgate mate, because we can rise again...

And we are dozens, dozens!

From what I read it's the gray colored ones with the most issues

It really sucks to buy somethinf with such glaring flaw

[naive hollow]

That’s why ice blue is the best

[versed vigil]

No, it is a backhanded comment on Reddit in general, but not anything specific.

[sour ore]

Hahaha, i was just being silly

While I don't look at reddit all that much I do know the userbase doesn't have the best reputation

[strange glen]

You need to order online anyway. I don’t think you can find many of these handhelds for a good price in a physical store. Unless you are going there for more than a week, it will be complicated to manage shipping

[rigid thicket]

It's more that Reddit forgets that only people with problems report problems.
So even if the entire reddit is filled with complaints, it doesn't mean everything is bad since people with no issues won't bother posting about it.

[strange glen]

And something new like flip 2, getting from Retroid directly is probably faster than taobao listings

[rigid thicket]

It's been an ongoing thing where people and companies are getting blindsided reacting to social media and finding out in reality that most people don't share that experience.

[sour ore]

That's very common on the net, not just reddit even if it seems worse there than other places... but yes, I agree

[rigid thicket]

It's all echo chambers everywhere.
Even here. They'd think we all want cow themed things based on this channel. 🤔

[sour ore]

Specially gaming related, echo chambers really warp your viewpoint

Ah we said the same lol

[lunar stone]

Sad T.T

[sour ore]

Yeah, it should have been 16 Bit EU

Different colors do usually ship at different times?

[dreamy kayak]

Black Flip 2 just shipped for me. Got my email just a bit ago.

Looking forward to taking my gaming apps off my phone and using this device for all my gaming

[rigid thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[rigid thicket]

Honestly just an extra benefit for people who actually play Android games.

[dreamy kayak]

I have a steam deck and a Miyoo Flip V2 that I already do emulation on, but the OS on the Flip is rough. I play Genshin Impact on my phone, but I plan to try and separate my phone from gaming and use the RF2 for all my gaming including streaming from my PC or cloud gaming

I love my Steam Deck, but it's too big to use on the go

[rigid thicket]

I feel that, my Steam Deck is basically just for couch/bed play.

[jolly kayak]

Anyone else read their website as Gore Troid?

[coral valley]

Thought it was just me

[vital belfry]

Yeah it’s just you two

[coral valley]

The go part is just kind of there for some reason

[naive hollow]

Go go power rangers

[vital belfry]

I assume only retroid domain was probably taken

[coral valley]

What about retroid pocket 🤔

[south mantle]

Mine’s in transit now

Supposed to get to me the 17th

[naive hollow]

Mine has not shipped yet 👍

[south mantle]

Flip 2 Hater rn

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-rant-amogus-stop-posting-about-among-us-stop-posting-gif-21710838

[jolly kayak]

Supposedly all blacks are supposed to be shipped today? According to website.

Just 16 bit left

Or, that they will start shipping i mean

[fast sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743647

[fast sonnet]

best email I could wake up to

[naive hollow]

Best email I could wake up to is one telling me I’m the only living bastard heir to a multi million dollar estate but to each their own

[fast sonnet]

ok best email I could wake up to that isn't a plot line for a fanfic

[naive hollow]

lol

[steady osprey]

Great to hear Black is finally (lol) shipping

[steady osprey]

It's me!

To give some timing perspective (assuming they are actually honouring order of orders), I ordered 40 minutes after preorder went live and mine has not shipped. (Black, Canada, 4PX)

[naive hollow]

I ordered on the 3rd so I don’t expect mine to ship anytime soon lol

The hype is half the fun tho

[copper burrow]

retroid is clearly punishing you for changing to flip 2 hater 😄

[steady osprey]

I always laugh when ANYONE says "finally" for these things, as if I didn't wait MONTHS/YEAR before my Steam Deck preorder shipped

[rigid thicket]

The timing is usually based on region. Pre-order shipping is usually done by bulk crates to different areas to save on shipping costs.

[steady osprey]

I was born in the preorder, molded by it!

[rigid thicket]

Doesn't matter if you were first to order if they pack your region last, ahaha.

[lunar stone]

Honestly after one groupbuy on a set of GMK keycaps, you will learn what patience is.

[steady osprey]

Yea fair point, as soon as I hear of a Canadian who ordered black getting their tracking, I'll jam the F5 key

[steady osprey]

What kind of timeframe is that? I can't imagine anything was longer than OG Steam Deck preorders

[lunar stone]

Depends it's getting better now but back during COVID it was like 2~3 years.

Nowadays it's down to about 6 months

[steady osprey]

2-3 years is straight up ridiculous lol

[lunar stone]

That's the price for keycaps sets

[steady osprey]

Where were they made, Wuhan?

[lunar stone]

Look into Mech Keyboards

The wait times are wild

[jolly kayak]

What is taking 2-3 years to pre order?

[copper burrow]

i mean, for steam deck the preorders were several months in advance, and then they took a fair bit to ship through

2-3 years is exaggerating a little 😄

[steady osprey]

I already spend all my money on retro handhelds, I don't need more stuff to order and wait for in my life lol

[lunar stone]

I wish I was....

[jolly kayak]

I can only think of boardgames on kickstarter that took 2-3 years to ship

[sage moat]

I pressed order by mistake 🤭

[steady osprey]

My Steam Deck was 13 months from preorder date to delivered

[copper burrow]

about that for me too

[sage moat]

Was only about 6 for me

[lunar stone]

Here is a little snippet from back in the day on reddit.

[sage moat]

Definitely less than a year tho

[steady osprey]

I was a day one Steam Deck preorder

Original 512gb LCD

[floral pebble]

Super5

[sage moat]

^

[steady osprey]

In a lot of ways, Steam Deck is what brought me to this hobby, and to Taki, Russ and Phawx

[sage moat]

Especially the mega kits

[south mantle]

I feel more comfortable preordering this than the Switch 2. Idk if that’s positive commentary on the Flip 2 or negative commentary on the Switch 2

[lunar stone]

The problem with the Switch 2 imo is the price of the games.

Though there are games on it that I want to play

[south mantle]

Kirby Air Riders being locked behind the current Nintendo debacle is painful

[lunar stone]

Nintendo for some reason feels much greedier even since a certain someone left T.T

[steady osprey]

I plan on trying the first one at some point, it was GC or Wii?

[lunar stone]

I hope they don't go the way of EA

[south mantle]

GC

[lunar stone]

GC @steady osprey

[steady osprey]

🙂

[south mantle]

Very very fun

Find some people to play with if you can

4 player vs

And play City Trial

The ai is competent tho

[steady osprey]

Daughter and wife I'm sure would be keen

[south mantle]

Ooh perfect

Display it on a TV and you’re golden

Just leave the extra ai in there for the chaos

[rigid thicket]

Yeah, enthusiast keyboard-related group buys were wild.

[lunar stone]

I do kind of get it though

Custom keyboards are pretttttttyyyyyy nice

Here is one I'm rocking off of a friend

[tranquil elbow]

Im a keyboard nerd, definitely spent more on keyboards than on retro handhelds. Never did a group buy cause they're dumb as hell

[lunar stone]

I have done only one group buy so far

Mainly for a set that was perfect for a build I'm doing

Not much of a keyboard nerd though

[floral pebble]

The keyboard is nearly the same size as your abomination of a mouse

[lunar stone]

Hey leave my trackball alone xD

[tacit latch]

no, that's not how their dashboard works, for each color they update the dates every time there are more deliveries, 16 bit having no date just means they haven't started yet, but it also doesn't mean that GC/ice blue/black are complete

[naive hollow]

I’m rocking an 8bitdo keeb rn

[rigid thicket]

Like, I get where the hate is coming from, but only Nintendo (and Rockstar for GTA6) can get away with those prices.
If other companies try it they'll just die.

At least with Nintendo you're getting what's probably a complete game without huge bugs bogged down by tons of microtransaction.

We have AAA games right now selling for like, $60, $70 with a Deluxe edition for $80~$100 that includes content that should already be part of the game.
Maybe also an early access edition for the privilage to play a few days early.
And then on top of that an increasingly gross amount of microtransactions.

Can you imagine if those companies think "Oh Nintendo did it so we can do baseline $80 now!"
They'll just tank immediately with their pricing models.

[naive hollow]

And a roccat kone 2

Erm

TB I guess

[steady osprey]

I think the flood gates are open, GTA6 is going to be $99USD and we're all screwed

[lunar stone]

Honestly I need to catch up with my backlog of games.

[tranquil elbow]

Nintendo games already are 99$

[lunar stone]

Last game I purchase was POE2

And that was back in Dec 2024

[sage oriole]

I think you're grossly underestimating the greed of gaming companies. They've been waiting for someone to pull the trigger on this and Nintendo have opened the door.

Nintendo themselves are charging for 'upgrades' and even want to charge for a Switch 2 tutorial game that really should be thrown in.

[random tulip]

Can always pay big money for retro keyboards

[steady osprey]

Not USD tho

[lunar stone]

I'm good

[tranquil elbow]

Yes, usd. Mario Kart in Europe is 90€ which is 99$

[lunar stone]

I don't even want to look at how much I spent this year on keyboards

[tranquil elbow]

Hell, prolly more since the usd is tanking

[lunar stone]

The one and only time I decide to get something custom

[steady osprey]

Yep, just saw an article talking about how developers were supposed to "bake in $5 increase every generation to prepare consumers for this" and now that Nintendo went ham, the gates are open

[lunar stone]

Never again

And when I say keyboards I mean two

[steady osprey]

Why does USD concern someone living in Europe? That's just fiddling with sources until you arrive at a desired outcome

[lunar stone]

One is the Wooting and the other I won a pcb and case from Novelkeys so decided to part out the rest as well.

[tranquil elbow]

Eh?

[lunar stone]

?

USD is the worlds currency at the moment

So it should concern everyone

[steady osprey]

If you live in Europe, you don't buy in USD. Confirmed pricing in Europe is confirmed pricing in Europe

[coral valley]

It's not 99 in the US, that's just a conversion

[lunar stone]

Oh that's what you mean

[steady osprey]

The price of a game in US is USD, the price in Canada is CAD, which are ALL already official and on websites for preorder (sort of)

[tranquil elbow]

So?

[random tulip]

Also like. Europe has VAT. You have to remove that to get to USD value

[coral valley]

? So it's not $99

[steady osprey]

Also this

[tranquil elbow]

It is 99$ in Europe?

[steady osprey]

I'm willing to embrace the hate boner against Nintendo just as much as the next person but let's not do mental gymnastics to get there

[limpid ledge]

Where we get $99 from the

[random tulip]

It's more like $81

You can't just ignore vat

[limpid ledge]

Man adding $10 extra

Crazy stuff

[steady osprey]

You know what's awesome about the Flip 2, playing retro games that corpo have abandoned long ago 🙌

[random tulip]

Nintendo so says, I'm gonna sell it for $80 USD in Europe. Europe says. Well I'm gonna charge my own citizens $20 usd more. That's not like, Nintendo fault. Lol

[steady osprey]

Sure am excited to do that

[limpid ledge]

You know hell yeah

[steady osprey]

segue intensifies

[tranquil elbow]

Hope you can see tariffs the same way

[random tulip]

Yours go towards useful things, like consumer protection and easy boarder crossings. Ours go towards orange spray tan cans, and fighting the anti Tesla menace. So no, they're not the same...

[tranquil elbow]

Oh they're definitely not the same, but thats the amount of money an European has to provide out of pocket for the game

[random tulip]

Ours also vary from 10 to 145 on a weekly basis. And have zero oversight or planned use.

[random tulip]

In most cases you also have a higher standard of living. Social safety nets, better minimum wage. Free healthcare. Etc.

[rigid thicket]

Nah, I fully expect them to take this as permission to price things higher.

And I fully expect to see a bunch of studio closures when it backfires on them 🤷‍♀️

[random tulip]

Trust me. If I didn't have to pay all my medical bills this year I could buy each of you a flip 2. And I have pretty good insurance XD

[tranquil elbow]

Now I just feel bad :/

[random tulip]

Don't feel bad. We did this to ourselves. Just do your best to keep from following us

[south mantle]

I like Flip 2

@tacit latch what’s the status of your order? Mine switched to “in-transit” not too long ago. I think you were the first here to get the notification

[distant drum]

Bring back yellow, you cowards.

[south mantle]

I would’ve bought a shell that had a dark blue top and a darker gray bottom

[gentle badge]

I have two myself

An index finger one and a thumb one

[steady osprey]

I was pretty sad there was no red solid or transparent

[worn pike]

have the flip2 started shipping?

[naive hollow]

Yes

[worn pike]

nice.

i ordered the other day so curious how long that will take

[tranquil elbow]

they're still processing all the day 1 preorders

so its gonna be a while

[worn pike]

day 1 is the heaviest typically

[tranquil elbow]

my guess is a week cause Im assuming a lot of people ordered it when they opened it then it tapered off

[rapid echo]

has any flip 2 get shiped from ordered on the 19th?

[tranquil elbow]

https://www.goretroid.com/pages/delivery-dashboard

doesnt look like it

[restive totem]

I imagine that some resellers bought them in bulks on day 1

So folks who ordered past day 1 or even later will get behind in shipment

[tranquil elbow]

well you cant expect to ship them all in one day

[tacit latch]

no updates on mine yet

[severe ridge]

sure i can, i love being unreasonable

[restive totem]

I know , small company and all but it would be just so much better if they didn't do that preorder thing, it's the one thing anbernic has ahead of them.

[sleek birch]

did anyone order the d1100 model?

[tranquil elbow]

it's not available yet

[sleek birch]

what I'd like to know is if there's any reason (beyond the cheaper price) why someone would pick the d1100 over the sd865 model

[tranquil elbow]

cheaper price

also the chip is newer and a little more efficient so longer battery life

[sleek birch]

so... d1100 is better? o.O

[tranquil elbow]

no

[sage moat]

Drivers

[tranquil elbow]

its slightly worse than the 865 in performance, but has better efficiency cause it's newer

newer != more powerful

the 865 has a lot more support, better drivers, and can run Linux

[sleek birch]

so the majority will still pick the sd one?

[tranquil elbow]

how can we know that haha

it entirely depends what you plan to do with it

[sleek birch]

ok. I'll move to myself then: I want to stream game pass, play android games, ps2, wii, and everything lower

[tranquil elbow]

then 865 is prolly better

the 1100 will definitely struggle with some heavier ps2 games and wii

(the 865 will struggle with certain titles too but not that many)

[noble canyon]

Not even sure if it’ll actually have better battery life

5’s battery life is miles better than 4 pro

5s battery life is similar to the Odin 2

[tranquil elbow]

thats prolly the oled screen

[craggy kestrel]

"6. If you live in Russia then you'll have inferior tracking and 2 months delivery."

that made me chuckle a bit

poor guys

[tranquil elbow]

postal service in russia not so good I guess

[tacit latch]

more like you have to circumvent around a bunch of restrictions and sanctions and that takes time

[steady osprey]

Captain's Log Stardate: 20250414: I've had to replace three keyboards today due to broken F5 keys. Send help

[tranquil elbow]

when did you order?

[steady osprey]

41 minutes after preorder went live

[tranquil elbow]

damn okay haha

reminds me of the steam deck, somehow I managed to be one of the very first to order it

got the bios update with the "congratulations you're one of the first 1000 steadmeck owners" or something

[rapid echo]

I bet there was bots buying them in bulk in the first few miniutes or something

[steady osprey]

I was supposed to be seconds after Steam Deck preorders went live but I got locked out of my account for 6 hours lololol. I was 13 months waiting for it

[tranquil elbow]

ooof

yeah people didnt believe me when I said I got it

[steady osprey]

I still use it weekly and daily on vacations

[distant drum]

Real talk - those with this chipset already, which systems do you not use RA for and why?

[hexed coral]

https://youtu.be/cl13Y-xd0Tk?si=8nRGZCqgOaQeH0kH

[coral valley]

Looks like vita got the second most votes, surprised there was no votes for other though

[wintry oxide]

I mostly play PS2 on this chipset - AetherSX2 on ROCKNIX, but wish there was a better option more up to date with pcsx2.

Since I got the GC Flip2 though, I likely will try more GameCube, but I haven't really compared standalone dolphin vs libretro dolphin

[gentle badge]

Where my gravis gamepad fanatics at

[south mantle]

When did preorders go live? 9:30pm?

EST

[floral pebble]

Yes, but even more important is the pinned message right beneath that one

Look what they took from us

[south mantle]

Ha welp

[coral valley]

Man with the ergonomic grips too 😞

[south mantle]

Also, I managed to get my preorder through 11 minutes after it went live bc my credit card thought it was a scam

I got my shipping notification at 2:28am this morning the 14th

I don’t think we’re dealing with bots

[floral pebble]

What colour?

[south mantle]

I think they’re just being slow

GC

I’m in the first run through

[distant drum]

Udderly ridiculous

[floral pebble]

If they moo'd this grip I'd teataly buy it

[mystic void]

Is that an exposed stick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me

[jolly kayak]

Is there any security concern of connecting flip 2 to my pc via USB c

I was gonna just load all ze roms directly onto the system that way

[naive hollow]

Should be no issue

[distant drum]

Yeah if you plug it in, Trump shows up with Elon.

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/musket-vintage-story-kelpshake-yofreakman-gunpowder-gif-3642291681626283740

[opaque harbor]

I just had a cursed clamshell grip idea

a inflatable balloon/pillow attached to the shell that can be inflated when you need grips

[naive hollow]

I have a better idea

Make the grip out of non Newtonian fluid

That way you can squish and mold it to fit your hands

[south mantle]

Tron Evolution Battle Grids Wii mote motion refuses to work on my controller

I think ima use the internal gyro in the flip to

I just can’t get this to work. I can get everything else except turning to work consistently

Also, this game looks so cool when upscaled

[tranquil elbow]

Can anyone with a flip 2 or a rp5 tell me if the android version of kotor 1 and 2 work with the built in controls?

[copper sequoia]

Yes they do.

Kotor 2 has better control compatibility than the 1st but still both playable

[desert canyon]

would have bought the hell out of this

[tranquil elbow]

Nice, thank you

[blazing burrow]

We must make this happen

[south mantle]

Ima be real. There was a lot of doomer talk going on here, but like 95% of it was wrong

The only thing is ig the plastic is thin on clear units

Feels nice that the Flip 2 is shipping undelayed with no real apparent issues

Seems like a really solid handheld so far

[opaque harbor]

I still wonder how it will feel

[south mantle]

I’ll tell you on the 17th

From a non-reviewer perspective

Assuming my shipment doesn’t get delayed at a checkpoint or something

[opaque harbor]

I am waiting on mine to ship I am just wondering

[gentle badge]

Can put an inline breathalyzer interlock to prevent you from ruining your nuzlock runs while drunk

[tranquil elbow]

on the 17th? do you live in China?

[strange ivy]

16-bit units are shipping out now

Ordered mine 2 mins after preorders went live

[tranquil elbow]

Nice

I ordered mine a week ago haha

Had to wait for reviews

[south mantle]

Nah I’m in south east USA

[tranquil elbow]

Is it that fast? Never gotten anything faster than 6 days from China

6 business days

[south mantle]

That’s the estimate at least

We’ll see what actually happens

[opaque harbor]

well with air shipping it is possible for it to be a few days potentially

[tranquil elbow]

I hope it is!

my usual experience is around 8-9 days, sometimes faster, but Im in Europe

[copper burrow]

Gl all!

[south mantle]

https://youtu.be/JqRCepSELbk?si=EMEvjzceZ5mQyXpv

[icy bramble]

Blinx?

No blinx :(

[distant drum]

https://tenor.com/view/frgst-froggies-froggiestoken-froggiesarmy-gif-26976860

[jolly kayak]

Cant wait to replay goodboy galaxy

[sleek birch]

someone explain the cows to me... 😛

[tranquil elbow]

Cattle (Bos taurus) are large, domesticated, bovid ungulates widely kept as livestock. They are prominent modern members of the subfamily Bovinae and the most widespread species of the genus Bos. Mature female cattle are called cows and mature male cattle are bulls.

[sleek birch]

ok, and what do they have to do with the flip 2? 😛

[naive hollow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle

[tranquil elbow]

Cows flip too

[sleek birch]

that is a cute cow.

[naive hollow]

Cows are literally just gigantic puppies

[sleek birch]

if you let them

I saw a video, where one was playing with a ball 😛

[tacit latch]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-congrats-kid-congratulations-nice-gif-11565253382391449339

mine is being shipped with 4px so it'll be forever until it arrives

[south mantle]

If people start talking politics again, just send cow stuff

[south mantle]

Just fly over there and intercept your package

[tranquil elbow]

4px takes about 10 days

Sometimes less

[gentle badge]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-cow-now-way-gif-12252684810860023425

[restive totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-laser-eyes-dara-gif-14737166592541954433

[rigid thicket]

Another day, another lack of shipment email for me 🥲

[quaint ferry]

Did they stop shipping? I ordered on the 18th but my order hasn’t updated at all.

[lilac sable]

no updated shipping for me moo...

did you say moo? or moo-urns?

for what its worth, my order is the flip2+classic bundle

[fossil timber]

When did you order by chance?

[quaint ferry]

You’re really milking this, huh?

[restive totem]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-moleman-boo-booing-boo-urns-gif-24820370

[lilac sable]

Mar 17

shipping to canada. wondering if theyre pushing american orders asap

[rigid thicket]

Same, I don't think Canadian stuff has shipped yet.

[umbral sand]

Ordered mine April 4th, USA nothing shipped yet >.<

[fossil timber]

Ordered mine the 7th and figure I’ll play the waiting game till later in the month. If it’s shipped and I dont have to pay the tariffs then happy days, if not I’ll cancel

[umbral sand]

Same

[lilac sable]

when did preorders first open again?

[umbral sand]

Sounds like Game Systems aren't exempt of the 140+% tariffs... So yeah not going to pay that $300 charge.

[south mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

[strange glen]

March 17 US time, March 18 Beijing time. The delivery board still shows March 18. They are still shipping the preorders of the first few hours

[lilac sable]

oh i guess beijing time
Placed on March 18, 2025 at 9:37 am

[desert canyon]

got a shipment email for my black one today, US east coast

race to get it here before May 2nd

[random tulip]

4px?

[lilac sable]

hmm, the SHOP app says 'Preparing shipment'. But no info anywhere else. Where are you guys seeing the shipment updates?

by anywhere else i meant the retroid site and the view order email

[random tulip]

Shop probably puts that for anything not yet shipped

You should get an email direct from Retroid with tracking. If it's actually being shipped

[lilac sable]

ah ok

[quaint ferry]

Almost, it’s “Confirmed” after ordering and then goes to “Preparing shipment”

[random tulip]

Ah. But that could mean anything I guess until an actual tracking label is printed

[quaint ferry]

Indeed but it’s a good sign nevertheless 🙂

[snow basalt]

Wait is killing me. I'm so excited

[strange glen]

I ordered last week and I opt for 4PX so I don’t expect to see it until May.

[south mantle]

They’re probably just focusing USA orders along with there just being a lot of day one orders

I think Retroid just knew my birthday is on the 19th and decided to send me an early shipping birthday present

DHL must be in on it too

[random tulip]

Yeah. We'll have to see. Preorders were def front loaded on the 18th. Future days might ship faster if there were less purchases

I ordered April 4th I think. Might have to cancel depending on where they are in the queue

[rigid thicket]

I can see them focusing on getting US orders out first just because of tariff randomness.

[fossil timber]

I ordered on the 7th, so in much the same situation. Though apparently in several ports they have yet to be told how to actually collect any tariffs so are planning on letting things through… at least according to trump voters at work who think they are traitors

[random tulip]

Lol

Sounds about right

Just know Retroid doesn't want to deal with people complaining to them about tarrifs. So I'm sure they're going as fast as possible

[south mantle]

Cows

[naive hollow]

Moo

[restive totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-pow-enter-the-fist-moo-nieu-laugh-cow-gif-3630881316158947790

[formal latch]

Creepy

[quiet reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-and-chicken-superhero-gif-12552972

DHL, 4PX, or this:

[south mantle]

My shipment is officially in the US

Currently in Ohio

[south mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/barnyard-movie-ben-barnyard-barnyard-animated-movie-angry-gif-5656762716358440862

[south mantle]

Arrived there a little under three hour ago

[steady osprey]

You do any videos for YT and such?

[south mantle]

Other than the occasional War Thunder clip or video I seldom post, I don’t. I can give y’all my thoughts or take videos of whatever y’all want though. Work has been slow and I more or less work from home.

[steady osprey]

I'd love your first impression thoughts 🙂

Don't need to video anything

[south mantle]

I can def do that assuming my shipment doesn’t get caught up somewhere

Also, this is my first handheld since my DS Lite, so that will be the perspective

And I hold real pocket-ability dear

[steady osprey]

^Unfulfilled^

😦

[hard bramble]

I wonder why no 16bit flips have shipped yet

[wooden phoenix]

They release them in SKU waves. Welcome to retroid pre-order shipping

[hard bramble]

I’m starting to realize I’m probably screwed I ordered on the 8th I don’t think I’ll make the deadline

[tranquil elbow]

they said they'd ship all preorders before may 2nd

[tranquil elbow]

I think someone with a 16bit said their order was shipped today in this chat

prolly havent updated the dashboard yet

[hushed shadow]

I couldn’t decide between black and snes, still not sure I chose well but waiting for the next wave of black shipping 😂

[hard bramble]

😩 I was between the same two in the end my childhood love of snes won

[coral valley]

I'm ashamed how long it took me to realize this was ai

[lilac sable]

Post it on etsy

Ez money

[hushed shadow]

Was a tough choice to be sure!

[tranquil elbow]

yup had to think long and hard between gc and black

but went with gc cause it looks more fun and black handhelds are annoying to keep clean (dust is ver obvious on black)

[south mantle]

GCCCCCCCCCC

Don’t just lean into the toy aesthetic

Dive in

[naive hollow]

Ice blue gang

[south mantle]

A Flip 2 hater would say that

[naive hollow]

A flip 2 hater did say that

[wintry oxide]

Like actually in Ohio? Because mine showed they had started customs with Ohio, but had several more updates in Shenzhen and Hong Kong and isn't to the US yet:

Customs clearance status updated. Note - The Customs clearance process may start while the shipment is in transit to the destination.
CINCINNATI HUB - Ohio - USA

So that's the thing people were talking about where DHL starts customs before getting to the destination... not sure if that actually helps beat tariffs or not

[strange ivy]

Probably would. Unless the US government decides to change things.. Again

[tranquil elbow]

agreed, I dont mind that it looks like a toy at all, in fact, it's the reason I picked that colorway

[south mantle]

That could be the case, but the last notification from DHL I got was it departed from the Hong Kong Sar facility.

Ig at worst it could be on its way to Ohio

Either way, I’ve either cleared the tariffs or am on a really good track to

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, that's the last thing I see as well - claims it will be delivered by end of the day tomorrow

[south mantle]

I guess our next stop should be Ohio then

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, I'm not too concerned, but hoping this helps others with what to expect

I did get a little worried when someone on the Retroid discord said Hong Kong is suspending postal service to the US, but apparently that may only apply to their specific postal service and not DHL and doesn't take effect until later anyway

[south mantle]

Oh well that’s terrifying

[jolly kayak]

My Flip 2 in Hong Kong ports

[wintry oxide]

That's really what makes all this terrifying - so much uncertainty and things keep changing, trying not to worry, but don't think I'll truly be rid of the anxiety until it is in hand

[steady osprey]

When did 16bit get updated in the dashboard? In the last hour or so?

[random tulip]

Must have been

Worries me that nothing else got updated

[quaint ferry]

Makes sense though because they’re still shipping orders from the first day.

[tranquil elbow]

Everything else got updated I think. The other 3 used to say April 14th

[copper sequoia]

I wonder how many orders were placed on the first day vs the rest…

[strange ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[tranquil elbow]

A lot, yeah

Wouldn't be surprised if it was like 60-70%

[copper sequoia]

Ah ok cool.

Having placed mine on 4/3, I was feeling a bit anxious

[dense heart]

yeah feeling the same

[steady osprey]

I'm glad I didn't drag my feet TOO badly lol

[south mantle]

I just jumped I head first bc I don’t have a handheld

It was either this or nothing since I won’t accept anything other than a clamshell

[steady osprey]

I really do think it'll be a tremendous choice

[strange glen]

GC in the wild! Love it

[copper sequoia]

If I had known that you could change the color of your order I would have done day 1 as well

[sleek birch]

Maybe with next paycheck I'll order one and finally decide what color to pick

I'm starting to like the purple of the GC, just that right yellow stick cap isn't doing it for me (I know it tries to be faithful to the OG)

[south mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/chowder-gif-10921007

Purp

[opaque harbor]

Have we seen people getting transparent blue?

[sleek birch]

Joey's Retro Handhelds and IroncladCobra have YT Videos with it

Nitrix, too, iirc

[opaque harbor]

I meant people that ordered one

[chilly karma]

https://x.com/forthenextlive/status/1912415227792224438?s=46 got it

forthenext (@forthenextlive) on X

@Retroid0fficial Flip 2 in black arrived.

X · Apr 16, 2025, 7:58 AM

[restive totem]

Man , i always follow your lives on YT.
Are you gonna post a vid for it this week ?

[jolly kayak]

Breh, I ordered my black that evening it was available to purchase. I think it was like 8PM CDT?

No tracking yet

[quaint ferry]

Yes, I ordered ~12 hours earlier and haven’t had an update yet either.

[restive totem]

Ordered mine the day before shipping started lol
I'll get it when i start collecting social security , i can play GC during retirement

[chilly karma]

here’s the corner where my live streaming table used to be 😫

I’m moving out, amongst other things - I won’t be streaming in the usual way for a while

[limpid ledge]

🥺🥺🥺

[restive totem]

Ah man , sometimes it gets tough but you got this 🙏

[strange glen]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/s/t5Te1jc7zE

Found one on Reddit

Depending on the lighting, I either love it or hate it

Now that people are receiving units. Is it time to move this channel out of upcoming? @blazing burrow

[strange ivy]

So glad I didn't go with Ice Blue. Absolutely hate those black patches near the speakers.

[chilly karma]

it’s all good, in the past month got a lot of the hard work done

[blazing burrow]

Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[sharp narwhal]

Black is seriously tidy, so keen for that shipping notification 🤞

[plush silo]

They don't bother me enough to still not consider this the best color option for me.

[random tulip]

Exactly how I feel 😆. I love it in that picture tho

And yeah. Getting transparent to see whats inside and then hiding what's inside so you can't see it would kind of defeat the purpose for me

Only cooler thing they could have done is gone with white PCB and cables XD

[opaque harbor]

green pcb might have been neat

[south mantle]

My orders in Atlanta now

At this rate, it could get to me earlier than expected

[worn pike]

me looking at china tarif hikes. me looking at my not shipped flip 2 yet.

[distant cradle]

I'm struggling to find the shipping dashboard for the flip 2. Stubbs said on the podcast it was under the retroid chat? Someone help me out 😫

[worn pike]

where on their discord?

whats their discord link

[distant cradle]

Yeah supposed to be on this discord somewhere. Not the retroid discord

[naive hollow]

https://www.goretroid.com/pages/delivery-dashboard

[distant cradle]

I thought maybe he was talking about a community built dashboard that might have more info than the one on the retroid site. I appreciate the link though!

[naive hollow]

I’d imagine retroid would have more info about their shipping timeline than the community but I could be wrong

[distant cradle]

A community dashboard where people report partial order numbers and ship dates is typically more precise than the vague order date/order ship date dashboard that retroid has up

[random tulip]

Agreed. Also takes some effort on someone's part

But it gives you more granularity. Like are 18th orders still going out? Completed? Etc

[tranquil elbow]

To me it sounds incredible that a package from China takes 3 days to get to your doorstep

We usually have to wait at least a week 😭

[languid vapor]

Mine left the DHL facility in Ohio and is on its way to local delivery facility. Looks like they're making moves already.

[naive hollow]

Man using DHL sounds like it would be nice

[sleek birch]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DIggfNQxNbt/

[languid vapor]

Had a buddy order a RP5 last month and it was at his door two and a half days later. It can be insanely fast.

[naive hollow]

Last time I used DHL it took two and half weeks with absolutely shit tracking

[manic grove]

that's what you get for living where rent is cheap

[tranquil elbow]

Yeah dhl has an insanely bad reputation here

It's one of the worst couriers

[naive hollow]

It was my uhhh Odin 2 mini pro, I got the notification that it shipped, got to the states in like 2 days, then tracking said something along the lines of “arrived at facility awaiting courier pick up” and then tracking dropped on the face of the earth for 2 weeks till it magically showed up at my door

[steady osprey]

Looks like D1100 variants are shipping to reviewers now

I simply can't understand the appeal

[jolly kayak]

Less compatibility and power lez go

Do they have the same battery size? Maybe less powerful cpu = better battery life

[plush silo]

If it's anything like D900 vs D1100, the D900 had better battery life yeah.
D1100 could be fine if you're just looking to play most of GCN and PS2

From what I saw in a spreadsheet earlier accounting for tariffs tho, the difference between D1100 and SD865 price wise after tariffs is like $35

[lilac sable]

some people really wanna save that $30

[sacred kindle]

30$ is still a lot of money in poorer countries

[tranquil elbow]

yeah, and they prolly had leftovers from the 4 pro, so its not the worst idea to offer a cheaper version

30$ is like 15% off

[random tulip]

When they're on sale I'd consider buying them for nephews or something

[naive hollow]

I can definitely see a market for the D1100 model

[coral valley]

It's going to be a crazy time when the rp5 series goes on sale, kind of makes me wonder how they're going to sell people on the next one

[steady osprey]

I can see a market when they firesale them like they did the 3gb variant of the RP2S

$50 was it?

That was INSANE

[jolly kayak]

Breh I missed out

[restive totem]

That D1100 shouldn't even exist tbh Imagine the scams on Aliexpress or elsewhere when some of these are sold as the SD version.

[stray dagger]

The D1100 is on par in terms of power

[naive hollow]

Only kicker is adreno drivers

[stray dagger]

Just that there were No 3gb models available at that point and the 50bucks were only a lure

[strange glen]

I think Stubbs was mentioning this mega thread he made on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/s/T2gIrTl0HS

You can also check the flip 2 channel on Retroid Discord where people talk about their orders being shipped (among a thousand other things LOL)

[strange glen]

Thinking about which GC game to play first on my GC Flip 2. I haven’t never played any GC games. Super Mario Sunshine and Zelda Wind Waker are obvious choices but also a bit boring. I am leaning towards Pikmin because it’s unique and also GotM (don’t think I’ll receive my Flip 2 in April) though. Any suggestions for unique GC games?

[naive hollow]

F Zero GX

[sage moat]

Star fox assault

I got stuck in a level there

[naive hollow]

PN 03

[sage moat]

Evolution Worlds too

[south mantle]

Kirby Air Ride

[naive hollow]

That too

[strange glen]

I learned about this game after seeing the sequel teaser for switch 2.

[strange glen]

I didn’t like F-zero on SNES nor GBA. Maybe because they are too fast for me LOL

[arctic scaffold]

chibi robo

[naive hollow]

Hmm F Zero X and GX are fast paced but play differently from the SNES/GBA games

https://tenor.com/view/f-zero-gx-gif-17879823995312952238

Also needs really precise sticks to play

[strange glen]

It looks awesome. I think I’ll give it a spin

[south mantle]

You gotta do all the HD texture pack stuff

[restive totem]

Metroid Prime 1 and 2 , Pikmin and Mario Power Tennis

[strange glen]

Didn’t think much before choosing the GC color because I love it. But it feels weird to play PS2 / PSP games on it.

[strange glen]

There is Metroid prime trilogy on Wii, right? Is that better than the GC versions? Not sure if Wii version supports normal controller or only nunchuck and Wii remote

[noble canyon]

No gc support

Wii needs motion controls

U can try to map it to right stick but it doesn’t feel correct

Just play gc

[south mantle]

Real fans use internal gyro for motion controls

That’s what I’m doing for Tron Evolution: Battle Grids

[naive hollow]

Iirc there’s a prime hack dolphin fork apk floating around that maps all the controls to a controller friendly layout

If you wanna play prime trilogy that’d be the way to go

[restive totem]

The ports for the Wii use motins controls and so does Prime 3
I could never map the controls for Prime 3 on dolphin even though the game plays quite well on my 406V

[strange glen]

Does dolphins support games with link cable to GBA games? Like Zelda four swords? Would be really cool if I can connect the flip 2 to RG34XX. My guess is impossible.

[naive hollow]

https://github.com/Kekun/primehack

There’s instructions for an android version there

I haven’t read all the way through it tho

[naive hollow]

Unfortunately not between separate devices no

[strange glen]

Is it possible to do that on the same device? I guess probably only on PC right?

[naive hollow]

On pc yes I know for sure, no idea about android though

[south mantle]

Guys Ima live in here asking for help when my Flip 2 gets here

[naive hollow]

Aren’t we all

[south mantle]

Ya boi just remembered he has a free birthday PTO day and I’m using it tomorrow. If my Flip 2 gets here tomorrow like it’s supposed to, I’m gonna be setting my Flip 2 the whole rest of the long weekend

[coral hound]

Mines out for delivery and it's my birthday. Strange how the universe works sometimes 😁

[south mantle]

Woah we almost have the same birthdayyyyyyyy

[strange glen]

I am coping by thinking about what games to play on flip 2, LOL.

Which systems are you guys most excited to play on it?

I am planning to play mainly GC/PS2/DC

[coral hound]

For me it's usually PS2 GameCube PSP then everything else

[strange glen]

Actually PSP for me too. I played mainly NDS growing up so I want to try more PSP games

The screen of flip 2 is perfect 4x integer scaling right?

[coral hound]

There's a ton of good PSP games and having PS2 almost the entire catalog is just amazing

Skies the limit

You'll definitely have more games to play than you'll have time that's for sure

[copper sequoia]

At what point does this thread get moved to non-upcoming devices? 🥹

[tranquil elbow]

GC/PS2 cause I can play everything else on my other handhelds

first of all Im gonna finish Eternal Darkness for the 6th time ofc

[noble canyon]

my most played might unironically be wii

once i get flip 2

[tranquil elbow]

and then Im gonna prolly play shadow of the colossus

maybe FFX

[noble canyon]

i weirdly enough dont play a alot of ps2 eventho i try to get better chipsets for it

ive been playing ffx tho

but iddk

i never end up getting around to it

but wii i have all my controls setup already on rp5 so i can transfer them over

[tranquil elbow]

never finished MGS2 either, maybe that too

[noble canyon]

which includes motion controls for motion control heavy games like super mario galaxy

[coral hound]

I don't go hog wild like I used to loading up every single emulator and putting thousands of games on there

[strange glen]

I played the remake on PS5. Love it. After playing that not sure I can go back to play PS2 version

[coral hound]

It's just a waste of energy and time

[strange glen]

Want to play ICO though

[tranquil elbow]

fair, I think the bad resolution and wonky framerate adds to the atmosphere

[noble canyon]

smart idea but force of habit for me

[tranquil elbow]

but that's prolly because I played it when it came out so its nostalgia factor

[tranquil elbow]

I just dump my 8-16 bit collection on every handheld cause its like 2000 games and its not that big

[coral hound]

It was for me as well for many years but I'm over it now hopefully one day you will be too LOL

[tranquil elbow]

but I pick and choose other stuff

[noble canyon]

a d h d

rg nano i have more curated rom set

and i ended up playing that a lot

still like 30-40ish games per system

[coral hound]

That's mainly why I stopped because of choice paralysis

[tranquil elbow]

and honestly I wanna try DS/3DS on it too

[noble canyon]

but rg nano only good for 2-3 systems