Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)

[severe ridge]

no the unit itself

[random tulip]

Well there goes my stage dancing dreams

[severe ridge]

like if you grip and it take your thumbs and press, does the plastic flex?

[blazing burrow]

no flex on the body

[severe ridge]

ok, then it might just be the clear plastic being a bit flexi

[random tulip]

Probably depends on force applied too

[blazing burrow]

in the middle if I press very hard it slightly flexew

[severe ridge]

check it

[random tulip]

All plastic will flex if you push it hard enough

[blazing burrow]

*flexes

But nothing different from any other

[random tulip]

So hard to see. His hands are wobbling around

[blazing burrow]

GC is solid thick plastic

[random tulip]

There's def some flex tho

[blazing burrow]

Feels strong, can't speak to the other colors

same amount as the gold standard android clam, GPD XD 😄

same as watermelon flip 1 feels lke

[opaque harbor]

So people have mentioned putting retroid pocket 5 stick caps on the flip 2 but where do you even get retroid pocket 5 stick caps?

I mean switching out the actual sticks

[severe ridge]

https://www.goretroid.com/collections/diy/products/retroid-pocket-4-4pro-hall-joystick

[opaque harbor]

I see 🤔

[jolly kayak]

So far, unboxing videos have only instilled more faith for me in the flip 2

[spare anchor]

How is the drop test? Does the screen crack?

[blazing burrow]

My 3 year old will let us know 😂

[blazing burrow]

Update: I filmed a drop test (which was painful) straight onto my desk on the screen aside and also from the body side

Screen side*

Screen did not break, will be in tomorrow's vid

Might publish tonight if I can get through the rest of editing quick

[noble canyon]

Now do it on ur actual unit u paid money for

[strange ivy]

I just want a screen protector test; to see if it still closes with a screen protector attached

[fathom geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906385496387760228/1359019283459346462/IMG_2083.gif?ex=67f5f4d6&is=67f4a356&hm=6ff86db8b4f21eaf92a601f8f34f227601a3cca7621485688ee551078df3c5a0&

[sour ore]

Poor thing

[blazing burrow]

The clearance is there yeah, they didn't include one though

[strange ivy]

Would the clearance be enough for a glass screen protector or is it clearance for the sticks + buttons you think?

[blazing burrow]

Sticks maybe, you can lower that clearance a bit by swapping in the RP5 sticks, but, looks like a regular glass protector would fit without creating a gap

[sour ore]

Thank you for the input!

We'll know better with more time and people try stuff

[strange ivy]

Oo good to know. Thanks!

[strange glen]

@blazing burrow Your videos actually get me interested in GPD XD Plus. I love the flat design. Might get one if I can find a good secondhand. Can if play PSP games? Not sure about its performance since it’s so old.

[noble canyon]

It can I think

Maybe not chains of Olympus without frameskip

[wintry oxide]

I remember seeing the GPD XD Plus back in the day, but I resisted as I was still pretty attached to my OG NVIDIA Shield Portable at the time and hoping they would make a new one someday... would still love a new iteration of that design in fact 😅 could only fit in large cargo pockets, but it sure did feel nice and was good in its time

As the flip 2 will actually be easier to take places and carry more often, I'm just hoping it feels ok to me though I'm sure some ergonomics are lost to pocketability.

[strange glen]

I have played hundreds of hours on n3DS XL. Flip 2 should be more ergonomic than that just based on it being thicker so I am fine.

[strange glen]

So it’s about the same as H700/RK3566?

[noble canyon]

Iirc yea

[strange glen]

It can run some psp games at 2x but still struggles with God of War at 1x, so maybe slightly more powerful but by not much. https://youtu.be/ft2P0kaWN24?si=0SyRHU6e-5Chipdj

Also the screen is miles worse than flip 2. OLED vs a 7 years old LCD is no competition.

Russ got the GC color too and the first impressions video should go out anytime.

[uncut knoll]

The flip 2 black with the buttons and sticks of the gc

That is awesome

[sleek birch]

I hate myself for being so easily enamored with new gadgets... I have the RP5, sold the Odin 2 to have a better screen and smaller form factor, but the flip looks really nice 😖

[copper burrow]

you have fallen into the classic handheld bug 😄 the flip 2 is the clamshell form factor, so dont blame you wanting one ^^

[sleek birch]

And the Classic has a nice booty... 🥹

[strange glen]

That's unavoidable... I am trying to control myself. I am three months in with two 60 bucks devices so I am feeling ok. Flip 2 will be my first "expensive" one.

To be fair I usually spend more buying games so I don't feel too bad

[sleek birch]

I think my newest handheld is the Brick and before it came RG34XX

I got the RP5 before the two

So there's been some break for a while now

But I also bought a new phone and my cat is terminally sick it seems...

[patent badge]

Would love to hear feedback if anyone has tried any Bluetooth headphones with the RPF2 and if there's any noticeable lag.

[sleek birch]

The latter is now more important to me than anything else, so will see... I do keep my mind off dark thoughts with some retro gaming though

[strange glen]

Yeah I remember we talked quite a lot with 34xx. That was my first.

[strange glen]

Sorry for you

[sleek birch]

Thanks

[strange glen]

Hopefully you can distract yourself with some comforting games

[sleek birch]

Well... Cookie Cutter maybe helps me release some anger that comes with it 😅

[copper burrow]

I hear you ❤️ i find gaming helps that quite a bit

[strange glen]

Wow didn't expect I love how GBA games looking on flip 2. May replace my 34xx for it already.

Overall I think the blackbars for 4:3 and 3:2 content looking pretty good here. OLED plus the top being almost 100% the screen help a lot

Better than RP5 imo.

[hasty sun]

yeah i’m watching joeys reaction stream and despite his concerns about the plastic it seems like the ergonomics are great, i would love to have one of these to blast through any rpg on the go

[strange glen]

Yup. I think I am going to order soon, just waiting for Russ's first impressions video which hopefully will go live in a few hours

[strange ivy]

GBA + OLED is the main reason I'm getting the Flip 2

[strange glen]

I thought it would look too big but the size looks great. Not even sure if I would get 34XX SP if the rumor turns out to be true.

[gray crest]

Does the folding angle of flip2 is same as old flip ?
I always find that the angle of old flip is quite painful for me

[hasty sun]

can you usually do mods to make buttons quieter?

[summer marsh]

What's the funny website y'all use to compare handheld dimensions?

With those 3d boxes and stuff

[restive totem]

Size / ergonomics and hinge seem to be safe.
I hated the Ice Blue shell , specially on Joey's video. Going for the GC , just preordered it

[hasty sun]

https://retrocatalog.com/compare

?

[blazing burrow]

GC gang rise up!

Just finished editing my impressions vid, uploading in a few

[strange glen]

Do you even sleep?! Thanks for your service

[blazing burrow]

I drop tested 4 times and left in the harshest 2 drops in the vid

It has survived

[restive totem]

If the GC one survived the hinge test you did on the live , it will survive anything 😅

[blazing burrow]

Not on retroid review day I don't 😂

[restive totem]

Nooooo i can't watch that 😅

[strange glen]

It became a meme

[blazing burrow]

But need to switch gears back to my day job after this upload and get some sleep for it

[strange ivy]

It's definitely too big on a Odin 2 (4.7" integer scaled) for me. So this would be nice. I feel. Integer scaled on the RPF2 is 4.3"

[strange glen]

I thought you do this full time. Real respect.

[restive totem]

Me " Buys a case to extra protect the Flip 2 "

Stubbs

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-iv-dolph-lundgren-captain-ivan-drago-if-he-dies-he-dies-dies-gif-4956349

[summer marsh]

Not quite, I was looking for https://comparesizes.com/, but thanks still!

[hasty sun]

oo now i need to check this out

[summer marsh]

I've regularly seen people post screenshots from that site to compare handheld sizes

[strange glen]

Retroid basically made everything that most people wanted for a flip 2 even though they were pretending we manifested it. And when I helped with making the ChatGPT summary I had no interest in this device but now I am 99% sure I am getting one, just waiting to see a few more first impressions, especially from Russ.

[strange glen]

This one has more corporate devices but not many retro handhelds (if any)

[strange glen]

I love this website. Hope they add a few more corporate devices like 3DS

[summer marsh]

You can input custom devices manually, that's fit for my use case. I was looking to compare the size of the Flip 2 to my phone

[blazing burrow]

https://youtu.be/2DwbyFl5dSo

[blazing burrow]

Is the title shilling enough?

[sage oriole]

Nope. Should have said 'I left my wife for this'

[blazing burrow]

My wife wanted to come to bed last night, but I was up late prepping for the stream so I had her side of the bed covered in clamshells, true story 😂

I felt bad, she fell asleep in our son's room

That should be the new title

[sage oriole]

Oh damn. Maybe it'll be 'My wife left me because of this'

[blazing burrow]

😂

I will sleep outside to atone, she gets whole bed

[sage oriole]

Sounds fair 😅

[strange ivy]

@blazing burrow wish the drop test was on the side or corner

[icy bramble]

https://media.tenor.com/h4PQ_f_KICMAAAAM/thirsty-i-need-it.gif

[tired cypress]

This is nearly end game device but wished it was SDG2 for perfect PS2 no tinkering emulation as well as 120hz for low input lag gamestreaming. We maybe another 2 years away from that

[tacit gorge]

let’s be real. zu manifested it. on his own. one handed.

[strange glen]

I am sure by then you wish it can run PS3 and Switch games well. End game device is a moving target

[strange ivy]

It’s already end game for me. Easy to pocket and bring around, OLED screen. I can’t see myself upgrading to a future successor unless they swap the sticks and d-pad/ABXY buttons around.

[tacit gorge]

you WANT the sticks down there?

[icy bramble]

Endgame is a phone that opens up to reveal it's actually a clamshell gaming device.

🙃

[strange ivy]

Most, if not all of the games I play on these handhelds are d-pad based. I don't care about sticks

[strange glen]

Personally prefer separating phone and gaming device

For one, I don't need to worry about the battery

Run out of battery for a gaming device is annoying but fine

But runnig out of battery on your phone is very inconvenient

[icy bramble]

I genuinely only really use phone features of my phone like once a month at best

The rest of the time it's just something I have for internet access

[strange ivy]

Good for you. I use my phone as a phone, browser, wallet, ID, music player, banking, etc etc

My handhelds, I use for gaming and streaming shows/movies

[plush silo]

https://youtu.be/2DwbyFl5dSo?si=2wAFXa_43TO2f0e4

[strange ivy]

Stubbs already posted[ ](#1336037750889250960 message)

[sweet rune]

https://tenor.com/view/imtired-im-tired-boss-greenmile-gif-10633552348827682008

[plush silo]

Yeah, saw after I posted it. I got notified by Youtube right before I posted, so I assumed it was uploaded just then as opposed to the notification merely being late

[jolly kayak]

On a journey to play celeste on rpflip2 without switch emulation

[willow panther]

It looks so uncomfortable for the thumbs. Why not place the sticks in the center instead?

[strange glen]

Personally I will use this device for stick centric games so I like the control placement. And so far it seems most YouTubers find dpad centric games are decent as well. Is this the best placement for dpad games, absolutely not but is this dealbreaker, probably not

[fierce ember]

I’m actually kind of excited for this one.

[plush silo]

Dpad being inset should help with the ergo quite a bit

[strange glen]

https://youtu.be/nBvZp1hqMC0

Finally

[sour ore]

In all honesty, there will never be a consensus on where "things should go". Depends on hands size, taste, muscle memory, a desire to not adapt, etc.

Besides, sticks down for example can get in the way of the buttons, I have seen people complain about that for the rp5

The most it can be done is provide options to choose by having different styles of device

[limpid ledge]

Another one

[strange glen]

Ordered! Nothing surprising from Russ's first impression but that's a good thing.

[uncut knoll]

Cool

[fossil timber]

I wonder how many carrying cases they are going to wind up selling for the flip 2. For me the whole point of a clamshell is that you dont have to have a case for it to protect the screen.

[stray dagger]

I always order a case alongside the device... you know, just in case

[fossil timber]

Yeah, obviously nothing wrong with ordering them, just seems less useful for a clamshell.

[stray dagger]

the only clam allowed to collect battle scars is the silver rg35xxSP

[summer marsh]

The discount code is still active?

[fossil timber]

I think it will be for a few days still

[jolly kayak]

Man, listening to Russ discuss the flip 2 is so much easier on the ears compared to the other folks. I understand the average person into these things is of that culture, but it really bugged me when Stubbs and his friend could not stop making sexual references throughout their stream.

I guess it's also produced video vs livestream.

[rigid thicket]

I mean, you can comfortably use offset sticks on the bottom right?
No reason why you couldn't comfortably use offset dpad/buttons on the bottom either.

The distance is actually shorter than on a controller since controller wings fan out.
With the controls being high up/it having a considerably tall chin it looks like the Flip 2 will mostly rest in your palms so it should be fairly comfortable.

[stray dagger]

until they start shipping or fullfill all pre-orders, idk

[fossil timber]

Also how tired were Stubbs and co. when making their livestream, people tend to get goofy if they had a busy day and on top of it all streamed for a fer hours.

[tranquil elbow]

pulled the trigger

gamecube it is

[jolly kayak]

I could see that

[south mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/indigo-steve-purple-steve-rainbow-quest-rainbow-quest-gif-favremysabre-gif-9318356360534914437

Been saying that from the start😤

[sour ore]

First impressions seem pretty positive, overall.

[south mantle]

Yea I’m not a fan of that humor😅

[naive hollow]

Russ has the demeanor of a well seasoned reviewer

I appreciate both sides tho

[lunar stone]

Anyone do a teardown yet?

I would love to see how difficult it would be to swap the buttons out for a Black or White GC color scheme.

[jolly kayak]

Stubbs tried i think

It seemed very difficult

[strange glen]

I don't think I will use the carrying case daily. It's only used when I need to put it in a backpack or luggage for traveling.

[strange glen]

Yes it's still active, but don't know for how long. This is one of the reasons I order right away after watching all the first impressions videos

[strange glen]

GC gang!!

[tranquil elbow]

GC gang!

[strange glen]

There should be an emoji for GC gang

There is an indigo flip 1 but anyway I don't have nitro.

Actually that's from Retroid discord

https://tenor.com/view/game-cube-startup-bios-nintendo-logo-gif-16680124

Want a gamecube logo sticker to put on top of the pac-man thing

[naive hollow]

Ice blue gang

[jolly kayak]

Bruh

[strange glen]

No reactions at all? What happened to ice blue gang? Have they all be converted after the first impressions?

I actually like how it looks on Joey's video

But still prefer gc

[naive hollow]

What?

I can assure you I have not been converted lol

[fossil timber]

Im in the icea blue gang! Also ordered a teal classic so I am deep in the blue.

[plush silo]

I'm not looking in here all the time

[quiet reef]

Lol nope

https://tenor.com/view/ice-ice-baby-vanilla-ice-rap-musiv-video-gif-11959717673329722264

[naive hollow]

Icy blue gang gang

[south mantle]

That was genuinely funny on stream. Dude was like “sorry I have skill issue”

But it’s not that it’s difficult per say, Stubbs just didn’t have the right tools

The neck on his screwdriver was too large

Those screws are pretty inset

[naive hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906385496387760228/1359019283459346462/IMG_2083.gif

[stray dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-all-black-everything-sunglasses-all-black-gif-5439186

[south mantle]

||Everything should be IFixIt compliant||

[sour ore]

So in around a week we'll get more deep reviews right? I will wait for that then, although it looks solid all around so I hope there are not surprises

[strange glen]

Yeah and probably first impressions of the classic too in case you want to order the bundle

I was thinking about the bundle with $30 discount but then I don't really need a vertical

[sour ore]

I thought about it, but I don't see myself using both, specially since the flip feels like "all" I needed for one of these devices currently

But I'll see what the opinion is for it

[fossil timber]

Yeah, honestly dont see myself using the classic much for games, but I will use it for music and audiobooks.

can play some stardew or an rpg on my breaks if I want but mostly just going to use it to try and use my phone alot less.

[tired cypress]

No because for Switch i have a modded Switch OLED. For these cheaper android devices I'm only looking to emulate up to PS2, Wii, GC and have 120hz for lower input lag. Even 3DS doesn't interest me as I have a modded New 3DS

I forgot how good 4:3 games look on a Flip device. The black borders just look like bezels on a 3DS or DS

[strange glen]

Yeah it looks really awesome. I was mainly planning to play 16:9 games or with wide screen hacks but I actually don't mind the black bars for 4:3 at all.

[naive hollow]

I’m probably mostly gonna play pokerogue

That game is like crack

[white prism]

Is there a 100000 open and closed video yet?

[sour ore]

a bit too soon for that I think

[tired cypress]

Damn it i pulled the trigger and preordered. I was going to wait for 120hz screen if there was a Flip 3 etc but that may not happen

[coral valley]

Odin 2 portal flip

[tired cypress]

This being the first actually pocketable PS2 device that's not garbage like RP Mini made me pull the trigger

[jolly kayak]

2 Portal 2 Flip

[sour ore]

you are years away from a flip 3 probably

[tired cypress]

I just put my new 3ds xl in my pocket to see if its manageable and to be honest it isn't too bad

[strange glen]

Wait for flip 4

[hushed shadow]

Well I guess I'm officially a retroid fanboy~ just otdered a flip2 to round out my collection pre-tariffs...

[fossil timber]

I wouldnt be surprised if ALOT of people are ordering these two in preparation for them being the last handhelds they order for awhile given the new tarrifs and seeming economic freefall.

[tired cypress]

I can also use it as a youtube player for my kids when I'm out eating lunch and not propping up my phone to a glass cup lol

[coral valley]

Odin 2 portal flip is happening it has to, Ayns already put a sale on the Odin 2 and mini. (I'm coping hard)

[tired cypress]

I think I'm going to sell my RG40XXH and RG28XX and have this as my only retro handheld

[strange glen]

That or Odin 2 mini OLED.

[tired cypress]

RP5 won't be replacing my DSi, New 3DS, Switch OLED or ROG Ally for DS, 3DS, Switch, and PC games

[coral valley]

That's what I'm prepping for, just can't decide whether I want this or the odin 2 mini. If/when the de minimis exception is removed I don't expect to order another handheld anytime soon, so this last ones gotta hold me over

[strange glen]

I hope I can cope and be happy with flip 2 for a while until like a Steam Deck 2 or something

Probably not

[tired cypress]

With tarrifs this may be the last bastion of cheap retro handheld for US buyers

[hushed shadow]

I love my RP5, I find if very comfortable to play. My switch lite is currently in a state of 'has broken screen and waiting for oled upgrade" so it's replaced that entirely.

[sour ore]

you could play games in both the original machines and your retro handheld. Like, I am going to still use my n2dsxl, but that wouldn't stop me from trying 3ds games on the flip 2 just to see how it does

ds and 3ds are harder to replace for multiple reasons but...

[fossil timber]

My only other major purchase this year will probably be a Switch 2 a little while after launch and a few games, but really I am fairly well set up as is, at least once my flip 2 and classic arrive

[tired cypress]

I enjoy stereo 3D so I would never play games that support 3D on a emulation device

[sour ore]

and that's great but that doesn't take away the option to try from you

[tired cypress]

I'm just loving the size of the RP Flip 2 it's like they maxed out as much as they can with the screen size and still fitting in stack shoulders with analog triggers and fill size sticks that are not sliders yet it's still as pocketable as a New 3DS XL

[sour ore]

like the ds/3ds touchscreen is going to be better than using the flip 2 (or rp5) screen for touch controls on games, but it's still an option

[tired cypress]

True but I don't think I'd waste space installing Citra and 3DS games when I own a New 3DS

RP Flip will be strickly a NES/GB to Wii/PSP device for me

[white prism]

How does it run most of Wii u?

[tired cypress]

With some games streaming from my PS5 and PC

[sour ore]

I guess it will depend on the game

[tired cypress]

Wii not Wii U

[sour ore]

lighter ones might run fine?

[tired cypress]

Wii U ill play on my ROG Ally

[white prism]

No wind waker hd on it?

Sorry I’m asking what the sd865 can do

[naive hollow]

Can’t wait to play some Pokemon BR on flippy 2

[sour ore]

another reason to try emulation even if you have the original system is for those games that can run better

like, I love my n2ds and use it a lot even today, but I'd rather play something like Pilotwings resort on emulator as I can play at 60 frames stable, instead of the highly variable frame rates on original hardware, even by using the New's full power

[naive hollow]

The only systems I don’t usually emulate is Wii and 3DS

[sour ore]

I have my Wii still plugged since the day I bought it lol

but even then there's a lot to gain from emulation

although it's probably going to be harder to do Wii stuff on a portable handheld without using the wiimote or the sensor

i actually did not think about that

[quiet reef]

SD865 can run a few Wii U games: Zelda windwaker hd, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Bayonetta, Mario 3d world, NSMB Wii U to name a few. Just fyi they don’t run perfect

Mario Kart 8 works but only the first race lol

[sour ore]

that's strange wow

you know about DKTF?

[naive hollow]

I have 2 Wii Us I use

I do miss the interconnectability between systems like GBA and GameCube or DS and Wii

That was peak console design

[quiet reef]

I haven’t tried but games like COD Ghosts and BO2 crash while trying to boot

[naive hollow]

Uh oh I just saw the 557

[sour ore]

I'm a bit on two minds with that. I love the interconnectability between systems.

It's great that you can connect GBC+N64, GBA+GC, DS+Wii to do special things with some games (or just a console game and the handheld system). For example being able to unlock microgames from Wario Ware in Wario World, the miriad of mini games in Billy Hatcher (they even made a Nights into Dreams game for that), or being able to transfer golf clubs between Mario Golfs...

But that's if you already have the stuff, feeling the need to buy a new device or game for a specific feature in something you have, is not great. Like, look at Four Swords on GC. You need gc + game + 4 gbas + gba-to-gc cables. That's a lot of money.

[jagged blade]

wait it that real. I thought was people messing around

[naive hollow]

https://youtu.be/qgDRj9LVfmA?si=7DKfuIAqmYSKukEw

[stray dagger]

they really gone lazy on this one tho

[naive hollow]

Might jump ship when I see the details

[stray dagger]

I mean the SoC probably has more power than the 865

[sour ore]

Oh oh, I think I can already see the problems, look at how hot it gets playing wii u, it's smoking hot

[strange glen]

What?! Are you going to change your username?

[naive hollow]

TBD

I only bought flippy 2 cuz anbernic was sleeping

[stray dagger]

Sniffer always sniffs the newest handheld

[naive hollow]

Honestly depends on the price of the 557

[sour ore]

hitman is rough wow

[stray dagger]

my Portal says I don't need this

[strange glen]

Reminds me of @ocean cedar wait what? You don’t have a device in your username? What happened?

[strange glen]

Very different use cases. But again it’s never about needs

It’s about wants

[stray dagger]

size is close enough

[strange glen]

Oh you are talking about 557, I thought you were saying flip 2 vs portal

[stray dagger]

we kinda shifted the topic away from the flip, didn't we?

also I already ordered one when pre-orders gone live, so that thing is old news, on to the next

[naive hollow]

Flip 2 old news

557 shiny new toy

[sour ore]

that gc gameplay showcase was very poor though

[naive hollow]

It was?

Must’ve missed that

It all looked smooth to me

[jolly kayak]

Bro. Both 556 and 557 are an ugly turd from a dying goat's arse.

High key

I just hate how it looks like a controller was split in half

No more mentioning of it in flip 2 chat please xD

[sour ore]

if that clip of hitman 2 looked smooth to you I really don't know what to say, I think the video is working fine on my end

[naive hollow]

We’ll have to wait for 557 price and chip specs

[sour ore]

Regardless of your opinion on how it look, at least the system doesn't seem to need a grip accessory for it to be more comfortable than other systems I suppose

I rather have the grips even if it makes it look bulkier than not having them... and then caving for a grip to make it comfortable to use

[naive hollow]

I mean that’s like the single game that didn’t look great

Is 3x shadow of the colossus not good?

Or am I just behind on benchmarks

[sour ore]

I am not saying anything bad about the device itself, just that that particular part looks off

I don't know why it's peforming the way it is, probably bad settings or something, but showing that on an announcement video is interesting

[jolly kayak]

Neither does flip 2 😛

[sour ore]

We'll probably see a grip for the flip 2 anyway

[blazing burrow]

Still looking for the right screw size, but let's assume skill issue until someone else tries 😂

[strange glen]

Now I can finally go back to playing video games No more YouTube, Discord and Reddit for at least… a few hours

[blazing burrow]

They are very deep screws so I think I just need to track down my old ifixit kit in rhe garage 😆

[naive hollow]

I’ll be honest tho a clamshell does a lot for making the device feel like an actual console, instead of a phone with controls like the rp5

[lunar stone]

Portal.... flip

That's a huge screen lol

[jolly kayak]

Android really breaks my immersion, but some front-ends do a good job

[lunar stone]

I agree

[naive hollow]

This too yes

[lunar stone]

Although the Odin 2 Mini did give me PS Vita vibes

[fossil timber]

I really liked the o2mini because of the vita vibes.

[lunar stone]

I think that the only other device so far where I was thinking this feels like a console.

[naive hollow]

O2 mini was nice but battery life was lacking

[lunar stone]

That and the screen

Just a tad small

[naive hollow]

Premium as hell tho

I liked the screen on the mini

[lunar stone]

I liked it too but I found I couldn't take advantage of the full power because 5 inch apparently is still too small.

Made me squint a lot T.T

Then again I have much worst eyesight vs my childhood days

[lilac sable]

so whos cancelling and getting the rg557

[naive hollow]

I preferred the 5 inch screen tbh

[naive hollow]

Me

[lunar stone]

I remember picking up a DS lite and just wow I don't remember the screen being so small.

[lunar stone]

Wait nvm the shape.

[steady osprey]

Surely those are Apples/Oranges devices?

[jolly kayak]

Yeh.

I almost prefer seeing switch 2 convos than 557 here

[steady osprey]

Haha indeed

[lilac sable]

both are premium android handheld gaming devices?

at most likely around the same price maybe?

[naive hollow]

If the 557 is priced competitively then hoo boy

[lilac sable]

556 was a bit cheaper than rp4p

[naive hollow]

Looks like it might be stronger than the 865 too

[steady osprey]

I think comparing a clamshell to a rather large horizontal device is a stretch to say the least

[naive hollow]

Sub $200 would murder the RP5

[steady osprey]

The Flip2 is not looking to reinvent the wheel performance wise, it's an SOC that has been used in multiple previous devices, the draw here is the form factor

[naive hollow]

Yeah I preordered flippy 2 cuz it’s clamshell

Much better portability

[steady osprey]

YET you renamed your Discord name? lol

Former Flip 2 Sniffer, yes?

[naive hollow]

[jagged blade]

New name

[naive hollow]

Never heard of them

[steady osprey]

Indeed...

[naive hollow]

No relation

[steady osprey]

Is it weird that even though I KNOW performance will be identical with RP5, I still want to see more gameplay?

[jolly kayak]

I'm at
Switch
Steam Deck OLED
Flip 2
N3DS XL
2DS
DSi

With switch 2 replacing switch once things get sorted. But I play all of em and hope flip 2 fits in well for GBA

[naive hollow]

Anyway I shall expediently cancel my flip 2 for the 557

[steady osprey]

Are others just watching RP5 gameplay to tide them over while we wait?

[naive hollow]

I’m just watching the RGC video over and over again

[steady osprey]

LOVE Russ but after watching all the live streams yesterday, I didn't take anything new from RGC's video this morning

[stray dagger]

there is a RGC video?

[naive hollow]

I just like listening to Russ tbh

[steady osprey]

https://youtu.be/nBvZp1hqMC0?si=eKI_1D7ApnIiYuiA

[lunar stone]

Oh yeah I have to watch this....

[steady osprey]

I like his voice too but Stubbs is growing on me because I share a lot of his opinions on ergo

[tropic surge]

has anyone preordered in the last day or two?

[south mantle]

So I’m

Nintendo should’ve made something like the Flip 2 instead of the Switch 2??

[coral valley]

Switch 2 lite clamshell

[south mantle]

Ooooh

I’ll take another clamshell if it means Switch 2 games in the go

[sacred kindle]

Switch SP

[coral valley]

Clamshell is the ultimate form factor, the viewing angle of a vertical, the comfort of a horizontal, and the best screen size to pocketability ratio

[sour ore]

The Nontendo 4DS is what I wanted

[naive blade]

my take is switch style removable controlls for non pocketable and clamshells for pocketable are the best formfactors objectively

[naive hollow]

Non 16:9 stuff also looks fine on a clamshell screen

Something about the way the screen and controls stay oriented

[sour ore]

It's easier to ignore the unused space maybe

[naive hollow]

Something like that

Probably cuz on a candy bar, all that empty space is almost tangible cuz it’s between your hands

[sour ore]

Yeah, I can see what you're getting at

[jolly kayak]

4:3 on flip 2 just looks like a 2DS lol

XL

[sour ore]

The flip 2 is a bit taller

[jolly kayak]

I'm speaking to the bezels

[sour ore]

Ah

In a way yes

[jolly kayak]

Can they ship already

[naive hollow]

Gonna buy me a 557 to fill the void

[sour ore]

Looking at my n2ds screen I think I'd had a hard time getting used to a smaller screen, specially for 2d pixelart games

Emulating something like snes already feels a bit tiny for my taste

[naive hollow]

Hopefully rocknix is supported day one

Kinda feels like I’m gonna stick with rocknix for most emulation

[sour ore]

Well, you could set up both android and linux for different things, I suppose

[hushed shadow]

Is rocknix nondestructive? if I pop in the SD card does it mess with the built in flash at all?

[fast sonnet]

I think Rocknix just loads off the SD card and leaves the EMMC alone

[hushed shadow]

I'd like to try it out, but android (for non gaming reasons) was one of my main reasons for going to the retroid stuff

[fast sonnet]

I know I'll probably use Rocknix here and there for PS3 dabbling

[steady osprey]

I just don't think the performance is there for SD865 to bother with Rocknix for the higher end stuff

I'd rather struggle with Switch on Android than struggle with PS3/Xbox on Rocknix

[fast sonnet]

The struggle drives me

[naive hollow]

How’s stuff like dolphin on 865 rocknix

[fast sonnet]

if it's anything like Android ATM, most games will run at 2x+ perfectly

[naive hollow]

Mmmm

[hushed shadow]

I’m struggling with dolphin right now, mostly my own ignorance though. Trying to get controls set up so I can play SMB Galaxy/2

[naive hollow]

Cuz if dolphin is comparable to Android performance then I’d stick with Linux for all emulation

Android emulator experience sucks ass tbh

[sour ore]

Geometry wars galaxies has to be a blast on the flip 2

[clear jewel]

I heard Stubbs mention April 17th or something as a possible ship date. Has that been confirmed in any way beyond the "mid April" statement?

[stray dagger]

I should just throw Rocknix on my RP5, Flip 2 and Odin 2 Portal

[vital belfry]

https://youtu.be/4R1k_zCuGFs?si=quozttdunmz5yTtu

[jolly kayak]

I want rocknix for celeste, shovel knight, and other ports

[naive hollow]

Ports nice yes

[sour ore]

It's weird, the other people said the flip is sturdy, but here joey finds it more flimsy.

Could be the plastic? The others were gc

[fast sonnet]

isn't Joey much more critical than others?

[sour ore]

No idea, first video I see of him

It's just me beijg curious as others put pressure on theirs and didn't budge

At the end of the day you are not going to squish your console intentionally, I just found it interesting

[naive hollow]

Yeah I don’t take what Joey says seriously

He says everything feels cheap

[sour ore]

He liked the flip though

[fast sonnet]

I feel Joey has the expectations of the Smartphone industry at this point

[naive hollow]

He said it feels cheap

[sour ore]

Ah, does he? Again, first video of his I see

[sour ore]

Yes, and at the end he says he like it and it would be the handheld of his choosing to combo with the odin 2.

[naive hollow]

Exactly

That’s why I don’t take anything he says seriously lol

[sour ore]

I see.

[naive hollow]

Granted I don’t take anything any reviewer says as gospel cuz I know I can only tell myself if I like something

Russ hated the 406V and it’s one of my all time favorites

[sour ore]

I agree but I have no experience with ANY of these things, never bought one before

[naive hollow]

I’ve bought and sold dozens

[sour ore]

So i don't have points of reference, and comparing systems from big companies strikes me as unfair or missing the point

[naive hollow]

Wdym

[sour ore]

I' always been on the "I will wait for the next model" but we're reaching a point where I feel like diminishing returns are going to set in

[naive hollow]

We’re definitely at the point of diminishing returns

[onyx stirrup]

when he says it feels cheap hes talking about the plastic, its like squishy and thin he showed a video of it

might be a transparent thing bc the plastic is thinner

[sour ore]

I mean that what a big company with money to burn is going to produce something with a different feeling than these smaller companies, not to mention outside of switch, those devices are quite old too

My experience with ds, psp and the like I don't feel like it would translate to know how to value these retro handhelds to me.

At the same time even the high end of those, like the vita is now like half the resolution than the rp or flip 2 to make one comparison.

I just lack references so i follow what others say with more interest

Of course these reviewers have biases and don't hold "the truth"

[sour ore]

This is exactly what i was asking myself

[naive hollow]

We usually hold corpo devices in a different regard here

[sour ore]

And that makes sense to me

[coral valley]

At least at the top end we've already reached basically peak emulation capability with the odin 2, now it's mainly about how powerful we can get cheaper devices to be

That and maybe ps3, wii u, and higher resolutions screens maybe

[naive hollow]

Software is the bottleneck right now

[sour ore]

As in improving emulators? Or is there something with android

[naive hollow]

Both

Android emulators are kind of behind

Especially with stuff like PS2 and switch

[lunar stone]

Welp

[sour ore]

I barely used emulators on android, beyond a couple gba games long ago

[lunar stone]

104% tariff are now in effect soon to be.

[sour ore]

Oof

[lunar stone]

April 9

Should be a WH brief in about a hour

[random tulip]

Well not for these

$25/30% starting May 2nd. $50/30% June 1st. Which depends on shippers discretion.

[noble canyon]

its a QC thing

Joey's blue unit has a lot of flexing sounds that makes it sound like weak build quality

stubbs doesn't have that problem and i dont think russ does

it could also be because the blue one is an engineering one as they might of had more official GC units as thats the one in all the marketing

[tired cypress]

I'm the same but 3DS is the exception because I just love the 3D effect

[noble canyon]

or it could be QC

no one knows for sure

[sour ore]

Some games did 3d really well,

I had a 3ds at one point but it died so when I wanted to get back, the second hand prices were pretty high (nowadays absurd) so I settled for n2ds, for a number of reasons. I really like it overall, i do miss the 3d effect for a few games, but overall I am fine, I am happy I don't have to worry for the touchscreen bezel lol

[lunar stone]

Hope that isn't the case

[sour ore]

I kinda wished nintendo went back to 3ds, but that ship sailed forever lol

[lunar stone]

Really wouldn't like bad hinges

[lunar stone]

I feel like that was the goal had the Switch not exploded in popularity

[sour ore]

I never had any ds/3ds break on the hinge but I have seen enough busted consoles for it to scare me too

[lunar stone]

The bumper buttons are what usually broke for me.

[sour ore]

Really? The most i can complain is a ds lite with dpad getting mushy

[lunar stone]

That too

[sour ore]

Specially the right direction lol

Too much 2d games

[lunar stone]

Lol Kirby, Megaman, Pokemon, Kingdom Hearts

Lots of walking right in those games xD

[sour ore]

oh man, kirby

and yeah, the ds got some neat mega man games, it even got the zero collection

and the castlevanias

I really hope one day someone gets bold enough to try a retro handheld specifically for ds and 3ds. But seeing Nintendo and their patents it's going to be a pretty awful road

[noble canyon]

He’s not referring to the hinge

Like the plastic prolly

[lunar stone]

Ahh

I do think the plastic looks cheap to be honest.

Besides the Black

[noble canyon]

https://x.com/adinwalls/status/1909631694572835307

Adin Walls (@adinwalls) on X

While nothing in life is certain, after a day of flipping the flip (hinge stress test), I think with reasonable use, this hinge is going to last. It's better than the old hinge by a long shot. @Retroid0fficial

X · Apr 8, 2025, 3:37 PM

I think all colors look good and I’m happy to get gc

[strange ivy]

Dude must have some magic hands to judge the quality of plastic based on feel.

[noble canyon]

I like how white looks best but the back looks not good with the logo

[noble canyon]

Well when u have that many handhelds u can sorta tell what feels kinda cheap and what doesn’t

[lunar stone]

It's that or the lines and logos that makes it look cheap

[noble canyon]

My rp3 feels cheap

Rp5 doesn’t

From the plastic alone

Russ and Stubbs says it feels great but toy-ish

But not in a bad way

Like in a fun console way

Which is what I wanted lol

Gc doesn’t get fingerprints

And neither does 16 bit apparently

No comments on black but I’m sure it doesn’t just like 4 pro and 5

[strange ivy]

Feeling cheap is one thing, identifying and judging the quality of plastic is another.

[noble canyon]

Yea

When Joey was flexing the device he could hear a little sound

[teal grove]

tbh russ liked miyoo flip v2 for feeling cheap

[noble canyon]

Stubbs tried the same and couldn’t

[sour ore]

I still can't decide with colors. Russ made a comment about how the gc model could react to the fingers and change color, or something on those lines. If that were to be true I guess I'll get the snes styled one but still have a week or si to decide

[coral valley]

It'd be nice if they were a little more specific about what feels cheap to them tbh

[noble canyon]

I don’t think that’d happen

Yea

Joey said “hard to explain but you’ll know it when u feel it”

Adin had similar sentiments

But honestly compared to mini discourse

This is nothing lol

[lunar stone]

It's between the Black and GC for me

[noble canyon]

We just need to see more reviews

[sour ore]

yes, I agree

more time

it's too soon

[coral valley]

It seems like adin just didn't like the overall look I think, too boxy for him ig

[stray dagger]

wasn't Joey messing with a pre-production unit?

[strange ivy]

I’m just amazed that they expect a $200 handheld to feel anything but cheap… It is a cheap electronic device in the grand scheme of things.

[sour ore]

he says it was an "engineering unit" or something like that yes

[noble canyon]

200$ is not cheap tho

it doesnt need to be the most premium device ever

but it should feel good at least

[lunar stone]

It is for the chip you're getting

[noble canyon]

true

[sour ore]

I mean, where talking about a sector that has things for like 35

[noble canyon]

but yea i dont think build quality is going to be that cheapedd out

[sour ore]

there's a huuuge range of devices

[noble canyon]

its all relative

rp5 was a very premium feeling device

i have my qualms with it

mostly the stick placement making double stick gaming super bad

and making playing it in bed sometimes a nightmare on the sides

but thats most candybar handhelds

i bought a flip 2 both for pocketability and for being able to play on my sides better

and for the screen to appear on top so its more immersive

[strange ivy]

I think a $200 device is cheap for a gaming handheld. But that’s just me.

[stray dagger]

so why are people even mixing in his opinion on the quality, that's like taking the engineering units of the odin 2 portal into account now when the thing is already out

[coral valley]

Well it's all we really have to go off of rn

[sour ore]

yeah...

[noble canyon]

but like anyways

reviews are glowing

they're obviously going to try to find faults because they're reviewers ofc that's their job

[sour ore]

pretty darn positive for something that could fail in many ways

[noble canyon]

being mixed on the plastic quality vs like the hinge quality is a good sign

and its not even a unanimous consensus

and could even just be an engineering unit quirk

[strange ivy]

I’m just confused why people are taking their comments on durability and quality based on their feel. It’s not like that they performed actual stress tests.

[noble canyon]

adin did

flip 2 passed them for a day

and he was doing some pretty crazy shit to it

stubbs did some stress testing and a drop test andd it passed but he didnt stress test for as long

[sour ore]

In my case because I have nothing else to go off besides these youtube people's words.

[random tulip]

The only flex test I saw was in a hand wobbling around. So some real tests would be cool (and probably also totally unnecessary)

[stray dagger]

given how much the Flip 1 bit Retroid in the ass with the breaking hinge, I doubt the can afford another issue after the RP Mini screen fiasco

[sour ore]

one thing from Stubbs stream I remember was that the screen felt less reflective for him than the rp5, I guess having the entire front being lass can make quite the difference

[strange ivy]

Unless someone is doing a constant and consistent open and close for the supposed 100,000 times that Retroid claims, they’re not doing a stress test.

[noble canyon]

russ likes the plastic

[sour ore]

was the flip 1 hinge so huge?

[noble canyon]

i checked

[restive karma]

I remember taki mention that such stress test was easy and inexpensive to do in China for foldable phones. I look forward to some bilibili people try that.

[sour ore]

yes he did

[stray dagger]

they had to repair a good amount

[sour ore]

oof

[noble canyon]

flip 1 hinge is pretty small

and it was pretty ass

but once they had a fixed version of it no one had problems

[sour ore]

I see

[noble canyon]

people were worried about flip 2 because of flip 1

but it was widely requested because flip 1 hinge issues aside was a huge cult classic

lots of enthusiasts for it

[stray dagger]

ignoring the old news handheld (flip 2) for now, NVIDIA confirmed DLSS for Switch 2

[random tulip]

Some from the initial drop didn't experience it too but like, the conditions post shipping were all over the place. So it was significant but not necessarily replicable for everyone

[restive karma]

Did Powkiddy have hinge issues on their x18/s?

[noble canyon]

they did a few days back

and its been rumored

i think in even better news is that all the footage of switch 2 we've been seeing is apparently not even dlss

devs havent been using it yet

[stray dagger]

missed the confirmation than, but yeah.. "rumor" lol

[noble canyon]

and it looks as good as it does

[restive karma]

It can not n be true for Powkiddy to have 2 flip handhelds with solid hinges can it

[noble canyon]

so theres some games that might be running at 30 that could actually end up running at 60

or 40

[stray dagger]

yeah that was kinda obvious given the performance on handheld only matching a PS4 right now

[noble canyon]

all the ports are better than the ps4 ports so far tho

handheld mode might be closer

but docked mode its more comparable to series s and maybe ps4 pro

handheld ports are more like rog ally ports

maybe an in-between rog ally steam deck

because its running at low wattages

[strange ivy]

Yeah. Any mention about durability and overall longevity from someone that isn’t doing stress tests or have used it consistently over time… I just can’t take that seriously

[noble canyon]

the sf6 port is better than series s but i hear its because series s/x have problems with sf6's textures that capcom hasnt fixed

[stray dagger]

well, I said handheld after all

[noble canyon]

yea

handheld mode ports will still look noticeably better tho

the gpu might be an in-between of ps4/ps4 pro when in handheld (at least relative to clock speeds i think idk)

but the cpu is supposed to be leaps better and much more modern

cyberpunk is a cpu-bound game for example

[naive hollow]

Icy blue gang

[distant drum]

icy blue wang

[strange ivy]

Icy blue Aang

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-aang-gif-20644880

[naive hollow]

Fr

[opaque harbor]

I wonder if the flip 2 are in production 🤔

[strange ivy]

They would be if the plan is to begin shipping by mid-April.

The question should be which colour ships first

[hushed shadow]

I'm jealously hoping for basic black 😆

I was actually tempted by snes though

[strange ivy]

SNES all day everyday for me

[sleek birch]

so I'm thinking... if I get the Flip2 then having the RP5 becomes a bit redundant

[errant pine]

Here is my RPFlip2 unboxing video, tomorrow I'll share another video showcasing hinge design, RGB lighting, audio quality, PS2 gameplay: 😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIx79PkjxM&ab_channel=IroncladCOBRA

[coral valley]

That looks like it tastes really good

[restive karma]

Any community consensus on how to make the clock/pacman logo thing look better?

Or which colorway has the best looking logo thing?

[coral valley]

Stickers probably, might not look as good on the ice blue one though

[arctic scaffold]

lobotomy

[naive hollow]

Bro that intro tune is fire

[errant pine]

Thanks man 🥰

[sour ore]

That logo seems to annoy quite a few people lol

[jolly kayak]

I love it. Fok'em

[naive hollow]

It looks nice on the icy blue

[strange glen]

FLIP2SAVE10. It’s written in the official website too

I swear I saw the message asking for discount code. Maybe it’s deleted

[tropic surge]

has anyone used the mini coupon code without getting checked up on?

[strange glen]

I tried, didn’t work.

I think the mod of SBCGaming sub got it wrong

[tropic surge]

its working in my car but never bought a mini, wasn't sure if they'd actually check or catch on

[hushed shadow]

MiniSave10 did not work for me earlier today, said I was not eligible

[strange glen]

That’s cool. In the worst case they charge you another $10 later

[tropic surge]

ah yea it just cleared when I filled my info. oh well

cant say I didnt try

[strange glen]

I tried again, didn’t work.

[sour ore]

It's preferred to buy from retroid's site directly right? It's safe?

[tacit gorge]

black i guess

[copper sequoia]

Yes

[naive hollow]

Yup

[south mantle]

Thank you for saying this

[restive totem]

Flip 2 is 3 weeks old , it had a nice run

[stray dagger]

the shiny new toy is the Switch 2 now, Retroid gotta move aside

[sour ore]

...to be fair the overall feeling towards the switch 2 seems pretty divisive, even ignoring clickbaity influencers and such

[random tulip]

A lot of people don't understand anything about the pricing tho. Hardware divisiveness I can understand

[sour ore]

I mean... I don't like the increase in price but at the same time I think it's quite a decent upgrade hardwarw-wise

[plush silo]

The Switch 2's price I think is good. I honestly expected it'd be at least 500 so was pleasantly surprised to see it be at 450.
The game prices are pretty nasty though. Pretty much gonna have to buy whatever games I want for the Switch 2 used to save some money

[sour ore]

But there's so many things around that. The e-waste game keys, the price hike in games, the battery possibly lasting less than switch 1, the joycon's sticks and how weird nintendo's way of talking about them feeling suspicious to people, etc

[random tulip]

I mean for any major international seller you have to take into account hardware sourcing, margin spreading across markets, actually know what a tarrif is, etc. lack of that knowledge cuts about 80% of the people in those discussions

[stray dagger]

people wages didn't go up as much as inflation devalued their money, so obviously most won't be happy about this

the thing is, the average Joe probably hasn't even heard about the Switch 2 yet, like parents buying the console for their child won't be out there before the holidays anyway, it's just us lunatic early adopters right now

[random tulip]

But yeah. Concern about battery, performance, joysticks, etc. are all a pretty valid things to discuss

[sour ore]

Sure, I was ignoring all the vitriol and hate for hate's sake

Nintendo has very difficult times ahead,

[random tulip]

Yeah. People love to hate companies in general. They'd rather see Nintendo die, then do what it needs to to survive market volatility. But losing them would be sad. For gaming as a whole

[restive totem]

You can emulate these games with the you know what emulator easy

[sour ore]

Another that happened today was doug bowser's comments about switch 2 prices and how there's switch 1, quite the don mattrick flashback

While my appreciation to nintendo as a company has dwindled it would absolutely be awful to lose them,

[random tulip]

I'm not 100% sure the earlier tarrifs played 0 roll in Nintendo's initial pricing either. I'm sure they left a comfortable margin in the pricing just in case

They might never admit that but

[sour ore]

Don't quote me on this but I have read that the prices did not take into account tariffs

That strikes me as weird from nintendo

[noble canyon]

Yea say what u want, but Nintendo is staunchly anti-AI

[sour ore]

But probably they did not expect such brutal numbers

[noble canyon]

They may be greedy and weird but they do have soul

And treat their employees well

[sour ore]

I remember when iwata cut his salary to not lay off employees

During the wiiu days

I really liked that man

Flaws and all

[random tulip]

The tarrifs on Vietnam had to be rough. Their second Manu hub

[sour ore]

Mind you, i still have appreciation and respect to the devs and workers there, it's just that as time went on I drifted away from the idea of "loving" corporations

[random tulip]

Well. At some point for many your just money so it's a healthy move

[sour ore]

Nintendo's game dev history is fascinating

Well I think I'll catch some sleep

Good day to all

[random tulip]

Have a good sleep!

[jolly kayak]

I'm unable to source my games unfortunately.

[wintry oxide]

Yeah, it sounds like a lot of people/companies expected it, but still got floored by the magnitude 🤯

[lunar stone]

People were expecting 10%

We got 3x to 10x that.

[random tulip]

Yeah. Pretty wild. Like even if he's using it as a short term bargaining chip, it may be a more shocking bluff, but it also makes confidence in the US market a little sketchy. Lol

[uncut knoll]

I love how pocketable the device is

[naive hollow]

Same

It’s gonna be my take along heldhold

[noble canyon]

in good news however

the rubber bump falling on russ/joey was apparently already addressed they just have engineering units

david confirms that the rubber bump doesn't fall out like it does with theirs anymore

its more properly glued on for retail

[uncut knoll]

Feels like a thick ds despite to not having dual screen and i love it

[naive hollow]

Oof

Canceling my flip 2 immediately

Smh retroid screwing up again

[left turret]

damn

[uncut knoll]

Damn

[naive hollow]

Damn

[strange glen]

This sucks. But exactly because of this I would like to have a very thin screen protector to reduce the chances of cracking the whole screen

[noble canyon]

wait for retroid to respond to it, it could just be an issue with the rubber bumpers falling out

[naive hollow]

A screen protector would make the issue worse

[noble canyon]

but yea this might be more of an issue than the hinge will be if its not addressed

[strange glen]

Similar things happened to Joey

[noble canyon]

depending on severity

so now we have our caveat ❤️

unless its fixed in retail

[coral valley]

Alright I'll finally cave and buy the odin 2 mini

[noble canyon]

we only know that the bumpers are fixed currently

[manic grove]

literally unbuyable 😔

[fast sonnet]

looks at both my X18s that did this with the sticks I guess people care now?

[noble canyon]

apparently the dpad is barely touching the screen

so its not like an insane amount of touching

[naive hollow]

Oof

[noble canyon]

but we dont know how it'll be affected long term if not addressed

[naive hollow]

Order canceled

[noble canyon]

it could be nothing, it could cause problems

[white prism]

Why send engineering units for review instead of retail

[fast sonnet]

Y'all realize that thicker screen bumpers would address this

[noble canyon]

because its retroid

[noble canyon]

joey said that too yea

[naive hollow]

As long as they don’t fall out

[fast sonnet]

Like just by a mm would fix it

[noble canyon]

they're fixing the bumper falling with retail

that part we know is confirmed by david

its apparently not glued on properly for engineering

[white prism]

Yeah glue it in

[fast sonnet]

The engineering units probably had minimal adhesive

[manic grove]

nothing electrical tape can't fix

[noble canyon]

but it'd look ugly tho 😦

with electrical tape on there like that

[uncut knoll]

This problem is not very serious compared if the hinge is weak

[naive hollow]

I posted it before hold on

[noble canyon]

well adin was abusing the shit out of the hinge yesterday

like he was pretty much going out of his way to fuck that device up

and it ended up fine

pretty sure the hinge will be okay

that'd be retroid's first priority to fix anyways

[fast sonnet]

Where's that stubbs gif

[naive hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906385496387760228/1359019283459346462/IMG_2083.gif

[noble canyon]

i knew it'd be something stupider that could ruin the flip 2 if gone unchecked

not the hinge

[fast sonnet]

Stubbs giving it the autism flappy treatment

[naive hollow]

Who remembers the 2DSXL circle pad tattoos

[noble canyon]

flappy bird

[uncut knoll]

Depends of how you treat your device

[noble canyon]

flippy bird

[fast sonnet]

Or the OG 3ds with the touch screen bezel

[naive hollow]

Yup that too lol

[manic grove]

now he should do it holding it by the top

[uncut knoll]

Treating the flip 2 like a butterfly knife

[left turret]

ong

[north prairie]

I caved

[naive hollow]

I mean yeah as long as it doesn’t permanently scratch the screen it should be fine

[strange glen]

Personally I am not too concerned about this issue

But would be nice if they can fix it before shipping

[uncut knoll]

Compared to others issues that could be happen is nothing

[naive hollow]

It’s also a common issue with clamshells

[uncut knoll]

I don't have any rush to get the flip 2 (not having the money) but i can wait if this problem is fixed on a matter of months

My overal view of the device until I get one: I love it, clean design and looks amazing

[south mantle]

Yea at worst I’m just gonna super glue something to add a super small amount of height lol, if the retail units haven’t addressed this already

[plush silo]

They claim they fixed it for retail, so Ig we'll see how true that is

[arctic scaffold]

i doubt it happens with the bumpons

[random tulip]

Figured as much

As a flip one owner for a while now it's never mattered

[naive hollow]

Retroid is cooked

Rip bozo

Flip 2 gate starts today

Boycott retroid

[arctic scaffold]

does it even happen if you're not squeezing the device hard to test how much it flexes

[random tulip]

Forreal lol

Everyone is like, can't wait to crush my device together!

[noble canyon]

#BoycottRetroid #Please

[naive hollow]

#boycott retroid

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/its-riot-time-fat-neil-community-riot-gif-11713239

Like I know people are screen protector obsessed, but clamshells drop the chance of scratching the screen exponentially

[naive hollow]

Screen protectors are actually worse for clamshells

Usually

[noble canyon]

i think not being able to use a screen p rotector for a clamshell is really not much of a drawback if at all

theres no scenario where you actually will need it

unless you go out of your way to fuck up the screen specifically

like

[icy bramble]

Seems like it could be fixed with shorter caps and a smaller d pad installed, unless the buttons are also an issue?

[rose swift]

my old macbook's battery slowly expanded causing the whole keyboard to get imprinted on the screen over time.

[noble canyon]

i can see it being useful if there was a failed assassination attempt on you and the bullet targets the flip 2 screen specifically

small chance it might live compared to not having a screen protector

[random tulip]

Probably the one valid need

Or if you go to the beach a lot and roll it in sand

[tired cypress]

I wish we could get a Steam Deck Flip with the same size and form factor as a RP Flip 2

Even if the screen was downgraded to 720p OLED

[icy bramble]

https://twitter.com/RetroGameCorps/status/1909728325129601258

Retro Game Corps (@RetroGameCorps) on X

To clarify, that screen residue wipes right off, it’s kinda similar to what you will often see on laptops. I’m not concerned about it. The rubber bumpers won’t be an issue on retail units, this is an engineering sample.

X · Apr 8, 2025, 10:01 PM

Interesting.

[coral valley]

Yeah I guess that makes sense, I do see the odd keyboard imprint on my laptop

[wintry oxide]

It'd really just be a size downgrade... Steam Deck OLED is already just 720p + 80p more you might not always use.

[floral pebble]

Damnit retroid, we wanted cow prints not imprints

[random tulip]

Damn straight

[south mantle]

https://youtu.be/cGIx79PkjxM?si=0W_2ddPfGQFWbtbZ

Haven’t watched it but here

[wintry oxide]

When someone called that one the Baja Blast version it kinda made me want it 😅

[random tulip]

Fuuuuuck. That's perfect

[fast sonnet]

Baja blast is more fitting than ice blue

[fluid stone]

For some reason I think white/light grey buttons and sticks and whatnot would fit the baja blast theme more than black

[fossil timber]

I swear shipping for my unit was half what it is for most everyone else I have seen. Either I’m just uncharacteristically lucky or something was messed up with my order

[lunar stone]

What was your shipping?

[gentle badge]

Gotta get a Baja blast sticker

[naive hollow]

[craggy kestrel]

https://x.com/EdwardLawrence/status/1909645258729594976

Edward Lawrence (@EdwardLawrence) on X

White House Press Secretary says 104% additional tariffs went into effect at noon eastern time because China has not removed it's retaliation. The 104% additional tariff will be collected starting tomorrow April 9th. #trade #Tariffs #POTUS #china

X · Apr 8, 2025, 4:31 PM

[naive hollow]

[restive totem]

Still not buying the first run , if ever tbh

[naive hollow]

That’s not a flip 2 article

[distant drum]

GameCube will ship first, ice blue will ship last.

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[distant drum]

Retroid discord have any rumored ship dates

[lunar stone]

Noppppe

[rapid echo]

I'm already planning on getting a baja blast sticker for it and I don't even drink soda anymore.

[deft plaza]

Retroid be like: we make devices with flaws

[tacit ingot]

I wasn't too jazzed about the Flip 2, but seeing these early impression videos is making me want one. But now I'm nervous about the stupid-ass terrif situation in the US. I may wait to see what people's experiences with that are before committing

[rapid echo]

Well I got Ice Blue and used 4px. I'm definitely getting tariffed.

[tacit ingot]

If they're just starting shipping in the next week or so it seems like all colors will get tariffed

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/baja-blast-gif-26165087

[rapid echo]

But if it's $25 fee, then I don't mind.

[wintry oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/taco-bell-clooner-cloon-big-cloon-baja-blast-gif-18219002418362577495

[tacit ingot]

I think $25 is wishful thinking. Will likely be a hell of a lot more

[wintry oxide]

By that time it could be more or back to less, who knows

I wouldn't count on less though

[tacit ingot]

Yeah, who knows at this point

Current tariff amount from China is 104%

I don

I don't care how good it is. I'm not paying double

[rapid echo]

I probably will.

[random tulip]

Again you won't pay double. Especially if you use 4px

[rapid echo]

I already bought an odin 2 pro. It's basically the same price at $400

[random tulip]

You'll pay $25 or 30% starting May 2nd

Then $50 or 30% starting June

Shippers discretion for flat value vs percentage

[tacit ingot]

That's why I'm curious to hear what people's actual tarrif costs end up being. If it is indeed that low than I won't mind

Just don't want to commit before hearing actual experiences

[random tulip]

Yeah. Also really depends which the shipper uses. On a $200 item, $25 isn't bad. $60 kinda sucks

[random tulip]

Assuming the item is under $800 and shipped within the international postal network that's what you'll end up paying

[floral pebble]

Aren't tariffs like 104% on China now?

Was a question someone literally just asked

[random tulip]

Yeah but that's separate from the end of de minimis

[random tulip]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-closes-de-minimis-exemptions-to-combat-chinas-role-in-americas-synthetic-opioid-crisis/

Now I mean by May 2nd they could totally make up new numbers

[floral pebble]

But if they come after they now cost double

[random tulip]

But that's where it stands right now

[random tulip]

No. If it's under $800 it's either $25 or 30%

You can read it in that link

[floral pebble]

I obviously can't read but thanks for the link

[random tulip]

Np. Sometimes that happens

[floral pebble]

I like being wrong when it's in this direction though

[random tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/prodigy-firestarter-gif-27481063

[coral valley]

The way I understand it the de minimis limit will still somewhat exist, as items under $800 won't receive 104% tariffs after May 2nd, but they will receive either the 30% or $25.

[lunar stone]

I don't believe that is the case

[random tulip]

Yeah. Basically it

Based on?

[lunar stone]

Based on the fact that apparently Taiwan just pull gpu stock going to America.

[random tulip]

We just need to pin the executive order on every channel and announce it 2 times a day

[lunar stone]

And redirected them to other countries

[tacit ingot]

It's pretty much day-to-day at this point

[random tulip]

@random tulip right. Cause shipping 50 gpus is WAY over $800

[lunar stone]

I wouldn't be surprised to see some price changes after midnight tonight when the 104% take place

[random tulip]

Like they don't ship 1 at a time

Nintendo is not sending one plane for each switch 😆

Like if you ordered 4 flips, it'd be 104%

Cause the total value of the shipment would be greater than $800

[fossil timber]

Around $20

[random tulip]

It'll basically kill ordering some OneX stuff unless they undervalue it for shipment

[tacit ingot]

Word is they already have a couple hundred thousand Switch 2's in US warehouses. Which makes total sense. But they can't have one price for the first batch and then up the price a month later for the new shipments coming in

[random tulip]

Yeah. Would be kinda messed up. I don't think they'll raise it to the new total. They'll calculate out what is the most they can raise it by and still make sales and profit

[lunar stone]

Ahh wait I read that wrong

[fossil timber]

Honestly I could see alot of Chinese companies selling goods to warehouses in the states for waay less than their going cost to get around tarrifs then raising the price to what it is supposed to be in the states.

[lunar stone]

Nvm sorry about that

[coral valley]

Yeah GPD and Ayaneo might be screwed in that department, at least for their US market

[random tulip]

I mean AliExpress sellers will 100% undervalue shipments. They already do to some extent

[lunar stone]

^

[tacit ingot]

Nintendo is a bit of a unique case. There's a certain segment that will buy regardless of how much it costs

[lunar stone]

4px is literally a way for China to avoid paying for import tax

That is why you usually pick 4px if you don't live in USA

[random tulip]

Yeah. There is a convoluted way you could buy from like UK retailers and have it shipped here and then only pay the UK tarrif, etc

[lunar stone]

Because the tracking isn't as good as DHL

[coral valley]

Droix right

[fossil timber]

But as Wii U showed that segment is fairly small in the grand scheme of things and will fall off very soon after launch day.

[random tulip]

Yeah. I imagine they'll see an uptick of American buyers

[fossil timber]

Thinking, is there anything stopping Anbernic from making say a 1,000 rgsps, selling them to a warehouse in the states they own for fifty cents each, then listing them on their website and selling for a more normal fifty bucks.

[coral valley]

I've heard they have pretty good support and warranty so yeah they might be the go to

[tacit ingot]

Wii U was very different. Not only was it a different economy then, no one bought that thing. Switch 2 will sell gangbusters

[random tulip]

Yeah. 4px might get you the better rate anyway. Because some of DHLs shipment services, like express international, aren't part of the international postal network, so you may end up getting hit with 104% on anything you buy

[random tulip]

Only if they get caught the US might light them all on fire 😆

[fossil timber]

They would try, but probably fail to find anyone capable of lighting a match or telling the difference between gasoline and water.

[dense heart]

the best idea i've heard yet is to just setup some shops on the borders

[random tulip]

Can't fault you there. They probably do have guns, and can shoot them in the right direction 30% of the time

[random tulip]

People will def be bringing switches across from Canada

[tacit ingot]

US stormtroopers lol

[random tulip]

Just don't get caught with 20 in your trunk

[fossil timber]

I am reminded of the Ashens PS1 retrospective video where he talks about a friend who bought a Japanese playstation before it was available in the states

[fossil timber]

Thats an insult to stormtroopers

[tacit ingot]

You're not wrong

[fossil timber]

Several German firms developed tanks betwen the world wars by labeling them as agricultural equippment. I am sure you could do something similar and claim them as medical equippment or something.

[random tulip]

A lot of gun lovers here put imperial and stormtrooper helmets decals on their trucks. So it's not that far off

[random tulip]

Except we're doing the dumbest tarrifs. Blanket tarrifs

[fossil timber]

They also think that warhammer 40k is serious scifi

[random tulip]

So like, we import a fair amount of Chinese produced medications. And they'll also be 104%

[coral valley]

All Nintendo needs to do is show Trump the Donkey Kong trailer, he'll give them an exception for sure

[random tulip]

And not originally intended to paint the Imperium as fascists. Yeah. A lot of people miss the plot

[fossil timber]

Guess thats what happens when your key source of goverment decisions is a book called, "SO, YOU WANT TO BANKRUPT MULTIPLE CASIOS?"

[tacit ingot]

The idea of a gun lover with a decal of a group with shit aim is hilarious

[random tulip]

Well he's bankrupting the global casino now, so he's at least on brand

[random tulip]

Yeah. But they look so cool! And shoot innocent. So awesome I guess?

[fossil timber]

Early 40k is so clearly a product of the 80s, everything is over the top and the question of, "would it be cool to a fourteen year old?" was the only one that mattered. Its glorious.

[random tulip]

We also have cops wearing punisher gear. So nothing shocks me anymore

[random tulip]

Yeah. Love the older stuff. It's very clearly marketed towards selling Space Marines now, so a lot of the underlying commentary is completely absent these days

[remote basin]

Guess you gotta get the black one and spray paint over some stencils with white paint

[fossil timber]

I’m too much a trek fan to enjoy super grungy dark sci-fi or fantasy. But it does do a very good job of looking totally awesome in an eighties hair band sort of way. Just leather and gothic architecture everywhere

[fossil timber]

I’ve been in helldivers 2 matches where people genuinely seem to think humans are the good guys, and that’s pretty blatant with the satire

[random tulip]

100%. It's wild, but one could say we've gotten progressively dumber so it's not super shocking

[naive hollow]

what's up flippers

[coral valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ten_yx-nocrune-instigate-zama-su-goku-black-gif-26670731

[naive hollow]

pls don't instigate

[random tulip]

Sec. 3. De Minimis Tariff Increase. To ensure that the imposition of tariffs pursuant to section 2 of this order is not circumvented and that the purpose of Executive Order 14257 and this action is not undermined, I also deem it necessary and appropriate to:
(a) increase the ad valorem rate of duty set forth in section 2(c)(i) of Executive Order 14256 from 30 percent to 90 percent;
(b) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256 that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on May 2, 2025, and before 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 25 dollars to 75 dollars; and
(c) increase the per postal item containing goods duty in section 2(c)(ii) of Executive Order 14256 that is in effect on or after 12:01 a.m. eastern daylight time on June 1, 2025, from 50 dollars to 150 dollars.

Well bad news flipper friends

Now 90%/$75/$150

[tropic surge]

tldr - you’re screwed if you didnt already preorder by now

[random tulip]

Yup. Might even still cancel mine if it hasn't shipped by weeks end

[tropic surge]

(me)

ugh what a shit show

[lunar stone]

That's a ouch

Do we know what model is shipping first?

[tropic surge]

s865

i think

[lunar stone]

Sorry I meant color

[tropic surge]

oh that idk

im still conflicted/on the fence on preordering

[lunar stone]

Same

This is my screen right now

[opaque harbor]

I ordered 2 flip 2s I hope at least one gets here without the tarrifs

Preferable both so I don't have to cancel one 😅

[floral pebble]

If you buy something and have to pay tariffs but then return it, do you get your tariff taxes backs?

[tropic surge]

nope

[opaque harbor]

It's a tax so no

[lunar stone]

Nope

Once it hits the sorting center

You're on hook

You have to cancel before it gets shipped out

[opaque harbor]

Tarrifs are a type of tax you can't avoid easily

[floral pebble]

You get sales tax back 🤷

[opaque harbor]

Assuming there is enforcement

[lunar stone]

Tariff is a import tax

Not a sales tax

[tropic surge]

yep

[lunar stone]

As in tax for you having the audacity for buying something from another country

How dare you

[opaque harbor]

Part of the goal of tarrifs is to be punitive so don't expect refunds being a option

[random tulip]

Blaming temu for our downfall 😆

They're like "we can make super shitty goods here too! Just watch"

[opaque harbor]

Ignoring manufacturing in the US is currently on the decline due to the market crash

[tropic surge]

I keep thinking it wont get cheaper/easier/quicker in putting off buying direct

nor thinking waiting for a used one would yield much of a discount, if at all

[cyan seal]

I'm close to impulse buying a Flip 2

[tropic surge]

srsly the urge

[opaque harbor]

I mean if we go into a depression prices will drop

Maybe

[cyan seal]

Was going to wait, but I'm an American 🙃

[tropic surge]

if being the operative word

[cyan seal]

🔥 🐶 ☕ everything is fine

Read a message on here that said Ice Blue is shipping last, is that a rumor or is that confirmed?

[opaque harbor]

I am not sure myself

[cyan seal]

16 bit is out of the running, and black is probably out as well, since it's plain. So it's between GC and Ice Blue/Baja Blast

And I do enjoy Baja Blast with my Taco Bell

[lunar stone]

Honestly I would have purchase by now

If I also didn't just buy a GPU

so...... yeah....

[cyan seal]

I have an Odin 2 and a modchipped Switch Lite, I'm covered on all my bases

So I shouldn't be in a rush to buy a Flip 2, but I've been wanting a Flip 2 since I missed out on the Flip 1

[lunar stone]

It's the form factor that has a lot of pull

Man....

Why did I buy the RP5

[tropic surge]

I had a mini for a whole full day before selling it off

[lunar stone]

Nothing against it but I been waiting for a Flip device

[cyan seal]

I barely use my Odin 2. My 2DS XL gets way more use tbh

My Lite also gets more use

[tropic surge]

yea I have an OG flip that I love, main/only emulator I have left

[floral pebble]

Because of the form factor or is it a native gaming vs emulation thing?

[tropic surge]

all the videos ive seen gimme the impression dpad gaming ergo isnt as bad as id thought

[cyan seal]

Native gaming tbh, playing DS/3DS games is way better on actual hardware.

[lunar stone]

Would be form factor for me

The ability to just snap it shut and get moving is a big deal

For me anyway

[tropic surge]

clamshell convenience is hard to beat

[lunar stone]

Screw it