#Retroid Pocket Flip 2 (Cows Ascended)
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Not discord drama channel?
Is that this channel's insanity?
Magic product slate fell into politics and security cameras without new news
what's the lore š
Any general channel is susceptible to insanity sans news
If you get news to discuss there is sanity
Put the fries in the bag
I probably shouldn't have cropped the screenshot so much, now it looks like I'm the one saying it
That's funny tho
Idek how gun control got brought up in a flip 2 channel
At least the drama in this discord is somewhat related
Oh I just got what you were saying ya the magicx channel was about that bad
Everyone vs progamer
Now I'm interested
We're already off topic so I'll explain
Lol. Is it off topic channel tho? Seems fair game
It was right round the time of the tariffs
As could be predicted, there was a reddit post
Nah that was from the official retroid discord rp flip 2 channel
Reddit, a famously liberal platform, had a unshocking liberal response
So did everyone here
Yeah I'm not gonna comment on tariffs until I do a little more research, I also want to wait to see how it all plays out
Standard opposition to the stupidity of tariffs
I think framing sensible gun control as a liberal response is weird. Considering it's popular with both parties
Standard opposition to the guy that created the tariffs
Its just an anti corporate response
Tarrifs have been historically and research wise never beneficial UNLESS your country has competing industry. Which we don't
Just the mod retro chromatic
And there really was no magicx discussion for quite a time
Afd is basically neo fascists
In the other channel, I was talking with Bobby about college n shit
Here we go
you guys are going in the wrong direction with your topic again 
We haven't been in the right topic for ages
this is the retroid flip 2 channel tho
Even when there was news it was nothing but argument
Eventually the discussion shifted to security cameras
I hate Arlo
And I expressed my issues with Arlo
This whole server has got a wild hair today š¤£
People are getting impatient with the info drip
They are. But like. People don't seem to care. Which is also crazy. Lol
Such as their stupid policy of not shipping their hubs with internal storage
Parallel with whatās happening in the US
What is afd
Elon being like "you see the cool wave I gave" to the Afd and they like "we love it"
Immigration and economics is the only thing voters care about
Far right German party
A party in germany
Far right
A lot of what liberals do is try to stop them
Shout out Germany
conservative German party 20,8% of the population voted for last week, branded as far right by the media
Hold tight the people there
Basically German MAGA. Except instead of Jewish people it's immigrants this time
But recently they had to ally with them to gain a majority
Branded as far right by facts
*illegal immigrants
So give them papers. That's the only difference. Lol
Who is going to Germany š
literally politics of the CDU/CSU in the 90s 
well actually, I don't want to get overly political here, but strictly speaking if a country's manufacturing capacities are underdeveloped, protectionist measures like tariffs are one way to promote building up the industrial base that's lacking at home (because industries that are under developed need protection against more competitive imports from more developed industrial bases abroad)
It's a difference of paperwork
Shockingly, we move forward
no thx, all the rape, stabbing and terrorist attacks is a horrid argument for that
What was once a liberal policy is now far right because we always move left
Any new news
Cowards looking for someone else to blame
Nationalism was once leftism a few hundred years ago
nope
Just like here at home
Now it's straight right
America first
Germany first
I'm 99% sure it's like US immigrants where they commit less crimes and then get scapegoated for all the woes. But it's whatever. Eventually there will be fascists all over and we'll have all new things to be worried about. For now we can just enjoy gaming handhelds we never actually play games on š
It's all immigrants really
That's all there is to modern politics
Look at these guys
Don't you hate them
We'll stop them!!
Vote us!!!
Eh. Let's cool it off. And go back to RP flip. Heh
we had literally a bunch of terrorist attacks and shit during the last months, but sure 
I shouldn't have posted that screenshot š¤¦āāļø
Germany has experienced significant terrorism in its history, particularly during the Weimar Republic and during the Cold War, carried out by far-left and far-right German groups as well as by foreign terrorist organisations.
In recent years, far-left, far-right and Islamist extremist violence have resurged, and groups have been suspected of ter...
This guy lived here from 2006 and hated the government because he thought they were trying to promote islam
Doesn't sound illegal to me
Like. Terrorism has always been a constant. Especially when they're involved in the middle east and surprising Muslims. Same with US
Sounds like an afd voter
What do you mean, heās ādefinitelyā has done that in all of his videos. People ātotallyā arenāt being irrationally petty and over exaggerating a single incident into being a nonstop constant with him.
But the whole "it's getting worse" thing is just a lie to drive votes. But it works
Yup, permanent resident
was illegal back in 2006 and all, but whatever, also that guy clearly wasn't right in the head and posted a lot of contradicting stuff, basically there is one right form of Islam for him, but whatever
Fascists love their alternative facts
Done what exactly? The only other video that kind of pissed me off was the "Diy Oled handheld" video, every other video seems to be a standard review
They just love fear. Fear = unthinking power
Taki Udon has constantly claimed to have invented all handhelds and founded Nintendo, didnāt you know?
What do you mean heās never said anything like that? He totally has.
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Make people afraid of something. Real or fake, and they'll vote for anyone who promises to protect them
Sarcasm.
Wait I just missed the sarcasm my bad
The joke still make me laugh
Yeah
Man what a time
oh boy, I will rather go and play Yakuza instead of reading this political bullshit here any further, especially as you guys have no clue about German politics 
Color people are planning on buying
Black or blue
Iām just here to bash the fash
Bro politics is like bad food bad everything but it's necessary
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Funny when Americans say the same things about Europeans. As if we're too dumb to see the obvious about each other š
Black all day
no politics kthnxbye
I want to see the actual colors. Renders are always a bit off.
The transparent looks really good in the photos but I feel like it won't look so vibrant irl
That's true
I'm over GC and 16-bit. Id maybe do a white?
Id love a yellow but higher end stuff never does yellow
Black and red š¤
Any evidence for him being illegal at any point in time?
I like a solid blue color
Oh sorry
Yeah, letās go back to our regularly scheduled bashing on the Retroid Discord and ignoring we usually end up doing the same things.
Grr joey š”
I disagree with the tariffs/import fees but most Western countries get them wrong or even worse. It's not a Trump only issue as many Americans think.
Yeah. They just rarely accomplish positives. There's like very slim scenarios where they're good. And 99% of the time those dynamics aren't there
Alongside exaggerating everything said by Taki Udon to be significantly worse and pretend people outright making him into a nonexistent straw man is totally ok.
Yeah I mean I get the idea is to strengthen the American industry but I just don't think that's actually going to happen, we rely too heavily on other countries especially for technology
You need to spend 5 years prior building industry to compete
Doesnāt help when they do literally nothing beforehand to actually have US alternatives ready and available before enacting it.
Chips act first, then think about tariffs
Yup.
Yeah, It's not something that can be accomplished within one presidency
Yeah, like a lot of things in economics. āItās great in theory, but then someone fucks it upā.
There's a very good chance the next president will roll back a lot of the changes
Don't like 90% of countries already have tariffs? That was the impression I got from most euros/aussies
Along with "lol stop crying stupid american"
Really wish people that don't like guns moved to countries like Australia or the EU Instead of trying to destroy the one country that gives it's people arms. Having the means to fight tyranny is worth almost anything.
They do, and usually they actually have that money going into shit like Universal Healthcare. We have politicians that outright donāt believe in Universal Healthcare being a human right.
thats kinda the point here
The fuck did I walk in on
We are talking about the hinge technology on the Flip 2
This is excellent rp2 flip talk
Just a recent but common situation for this Discord server.
Oh Iām sorry, I meant the Retroid Discord, it never happens in here.
Not related. Those are funded via income tax which is also higher in those countries.
Oh really? So where do tariffs go for them?
Not in canada
I think the flip 2 would be excellent to play while waiting at the doctors office. Or even bread lines.
About to put the US in USSR
Idk it's going to be different in every country. Gov Healthcare spending in America is funded by income tax. We have lower income tax and no single payer system
In Soviet America, portable game device plays you
If only that's what they'd be used for. Most likely leaders will encourage us to turn them on each other
retroid discord will always find some way to get politics brought up lol
its kinda funny
Wtf are these rumour mill channels on? Politics and discord politics in the couple of ones Iām in š¤£
They pay for their healthcare via imports? Honestly question, it will be different in every country so idk
Lack of handheld news = talking about irl news
I look away for 10 mins...
āThe politics will continue until Retroidās advertising improves.ā
Iām in agreement with you, and I still think this channel shouldāve stopped with this convo a while ago.
Woah that is not what I was trying to say
I was just joking
Lol
And by replying to it we're just kicking the can down the road š
Yup
Isnt there an off topic channel or something, these rumour mill channels seem such a weird place for it
I got time to can kick right now tho
So, rp2 flip gonna be $250 yeah
Oh, I thought you were just being sarcastic and commenting on the fact that we seem to talk about literally anything but the Flip 2 without news.
i might have had a few beers too many but i think i read "guys, terrorism in germany is a constant, why vote against it" or something along those lines
Oh it never does, nobody can be trusted to be reasonable with it xD
I don't know about some of you, but I've had enough of IRL news and use gaming to escape... Can't y'all just make a group DM to talk about this stuff?
slowmode on, tyvm
Yup, Slow Mode is definitely reasonable.
Oh well yeah that's what I meant
If you look at the fall of Rome, societies operate on a cycle. A rise, stagnation, decay, then the fall. No civilization has ever been immune to this cycle. The US is great, but so was Rome. There will come a time we need guns, our
founding fathers knew this.
Too much has been sacrificed to allow ourselves to be disarmed. They will say it's for our own safety, this is the biggest lie of all.
great, not the place for that though
Too bad we're way dumber than our founding fathers were
speak for yourself
The fact that half our country praises someone posting about being king, when our founding fathers would have shot him in the face, and I think it's a valid statement
you saying "terrorism has always been a thing in germany, it shouldn't matter for what you support" is the most disgusting thing i've read this week
Thatās not really what he said. Youāre being disingenuous
Then you never read what I said. I said it's not getting worse despite their claims. And historically it isn't. The rise in illegal immigrants hasn't created more terrorism. It's just used as an excuse to dehumanize and persecute brown illegal immigrants. And scapegoat them for any of the financial woes the country is facing. Trust me, I'm American, I know how wealthy elite use racial divides to distract while removing money from your pockets š
you are american so you have no idea who carried out those attacks
ā¦You know, there is a little something called Google right?
Flip 2 news when
FREEDOM TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOOTLEG HANDHELDS
Ok, time to move on to the topic Stubbs gave us. Anyone got a plan for something more custom with their Flip 2?
Attaching a portable monitor
Flip2 would be a nice portable console. (Like to attach to a TV)
I wanna see if they'll release rainbow buttons or something along the line of Saturn buttons! Also 5 mins for a cooldown is a bit much tho, is there a lower number xD
Yeah. Besides the transparent I'd love some color ways besides the one we got
2ds xxxl
Iām currently planning on either getting the Black one and the GCās buttons to redo my current RP5 with the Flip 2, or to get the Ice Blue and and (assuming the same buttons will work) remake my RP4 Pro in having an āIce Blue DualShock 2ā color scheme.
Ooo
man, as lovely as this is, I still don't fully dig it without going all the way on the GCN layout too tbh
It's all coming together
Tri-DS xD
I also had plans for a regular Gray PSX themed Flip 2 using the SNES-US option, but if they have the same color for the Vertical (or hell, if they have the 16-Bit EU or even Retro āGreyā option, Iām not entirely too picky about it), then Iām definitely doing the PSX theme for that instead.
Is that the official tpu case dyed black?
Nope, itās the PartTimeCAD clip case, I just put it underneath the RP5.
Clip cases are best cases.
Especially ones that you can clip on the back and doubles as a grip.
Agreed, Iām still hoping for the Portal to get one solely since that would save way more space (when paired with the cloth bag included with the Portal) than what the official case takes up.
Bro WTF did I open up chat to lmao
don't bring it up again, this channel is in slow-mode due to politics being brought up and was even temporarily closed 
Cracking up lmao
Don't bring that up again, we decided google is real and finished
So if we promise no more flame wars can we turn off slowmode?
Yeah please lol, I just brought it up cause it was literally the first message I saw
Haha. Concurrence on Google existing
Gotta give it a day for everyone else to wake up and react to that mess š
He said 200-250 depending on d1100 or 865, no?
250 would be hard even for the SD865 
250 would sting, hope they can do 230
Also why are we in slow mode, what happened, why is this needed
yeah $229 would be appropriate, $239 would be the max where I would still bite the bullet without waiting for black friday
waiting on the slow mode
slow mode was needed due to our fellow morons bringing up politics and shit getting funky here 
Oh god, Iām definitely not gonna envy what NexLevel is gonna be seeing if that ends up happening.
I think I can stomach a slightly higher price than expected if the pre-order discount is good, but ideally it's no higher than $249.
NextLevel saw, reminded that "no politics" are to be discussed and then came back like ten minutes later to this shit show still going on and that's why we are in slow mode and then Stubbs came in and locked the channel for a few minutes, is IMO what happened here 
@rigid thicket don't give them ideas, $229 or we riot
Yeah that's about right
If itās 249 Iām gonna blame you
yeah, feel like 250 is pushing it
Higher than 250 is "I'm just gonna buy an odin 2 mini" territory for me personally
Oled be damned
Yup, and unless people do enough reading in advance to see what Nex said, this could very easily end up coming back to the same topic due to way more than just Superbottle seeing it at once.
should be pretty easy to avoid
Should be yeah
fair enough I guess, but while I'm not generally opposed to discussing politics and hold no grudge over different opinions (even if I consider some simply uninformed and/or idealistic), it's unfortunately not the case for everyone, so let's simply try not to bring this shit up on our Chinese e-waste server 
i mean would be easier if retroid flip 2 news actually existed. rumor mill is a dumping ground for tangent conversations š
Pope?!
whoa pope is back?
woah, hello Pope 
It just turns into #general without news
we scared him off
haha, we saw him! @stray dagger and yeah, i'm always open to discussion, even through DMs if anyone is really that interested. with just a requirement that a spade is called a spade
Yeah, I noticed it earlier and welcomed him back in the Vertical Channel.
Well that depends on what exactly do you mean by spade? (Satire btw)
Like a shovel in Shovel Knight.
haha, most definitions we'd all to agree to. It's usually just denial because it hurts Team A and I'm a big Team A fan
Shovel Knight clearly plays for Team B anyway
The original image of this is probably my favorite Nintendo render, it's so good
You need to lure him with pictures of 6 face button wood grain handhelds
Unfortunately I work weekends
welcome back š
Whyād you leave
I want a full game of Mario characters flying around in n64 controller planes
gotta pitch to Nintendo to include a N64 controller cart in MK9
I got called old on another discord for suggesting the Wii.u layout of the flip 2 would be peak for boomer shooters
The retroid one I assume?
People are just afraid of the unknown
I aināt waiting for this stupid slow mode let me edit my last message instead
Wii U layout might be the best thing that has ever happened to flip handhelds
Popeš„¹š„¹
I just hope the vertical has 6 face buttons and one slider/stick so we can have the beeg psp, the n64/sega handheld, and the boomer shooter DOSBOX clamshell all offered by retroid at the same time.
Wdym you are old boomer 
Pope is like OG Senior
Still below the age average for this server 
i think the vertical will be a clamshell too
If Pope is Old
Any of these YouTubers are dust
Dpad looks too close to the screen for that on the render
retroid doesn't have anywhere to go with a vertical that either fights with the 406v or the ayaneo dmg, with a mid-end clamshell it would be a more unique product
straight out Pocket DMG with SD865 for $209
Both of those have pretty significant drawbacks though
Ayaneo dmg screen at a much more affordable price + more flexible single stick layout with 6 face buttons for Sega/n64/arcade would do it tbh
But er. Accurate? Lol. It was the worst layout for CoD when I had it. But I still played. Lol
if they can do that i'm glad, i think it would be a bigger banger as a clam though
what? it's great for shooters
I clocked 300+ hours of Blops2 on Wii U 
Bro straight up
With no trackpad
I mean the first two installs for me on the flip 2 if I get one (waiting for reviews since I already own an rp5) are gonna be duke3d and Morrowind
You know what's great for shooters? A mouse
Insanity. Maybe on the big pad..on the pro controller it was like pinching the top of a milk jug
How old is pope lol
oh yeah, always on the pad, only bought a Wii U Pro Controller at the EOL
It's better than RP5 layout. Current rp flip 2 layout is miles above rp5
Edit: fuck slow mode
My hand cramps like crazy on mouse and keyboard. Controllers all the way, I don't care about competitive shooters anyway
Just turned 36 last weekend - was born just in time to be able to lord it over zoomer co-workers that when I was born there was still an āEast Germanyā
He is OG Senior
Yeah. So it might honestly be great here too. On the controller you just had to do everything near the top. And the center of gravity didn't really match. I remember cramping. Hehe
Jesus Christ thatās old Iām 22 lmao
zoomer calling people in their 30s old should be declared assault 
youll get there
My hair is greying but my hairline is secure, inshallah
Hair loss isnāt in my family genetics
same, still have my heavy metal mane
HUH IM 21 HOW YOU ARE 36
He was born 36 years ago
imagine, there's even older people out there
You see, when a man and a woman love eachother very much
I think most people here are in their 30s, if not older, the kids need to sit down and behave themselves 
Happy belated birthday pope tho šš¾āØļø
I'm 20
Considering Iām only 23 (soon 24) and Iām already dealing with body aches I shouldāve only had to worry about at 40 (itās not from natural causes and was from getting hit by a car, but still) Iām inclined to agree with you given how it makes me feel when a fellow 20-something says that.
I'm honestly shocked to hear we have people in their twenties here
people out here younger than the gba
It is kind of weird I admit, I don't even have nostalgia for most of the games you would emulate on most retro handhelds
Shushhu š¤«š
bennie boy is barely born, 2005 god damn it, Paper Mario TTYD is older 
no no, power to you, I don't have anything against it, just surprised lol
ā¦I hope that isnāt including PS2 or GC/Wii, cause youāre gonna make me feel old if you say that.
And he's not even the oldest person here 
being 20 the normal thing would be to be nostalgic for the 360 generation
2004 actually, I just like the feeling of exploring old games and seeing how they've changed. My first real console was the gamecube followed by the ps2 and wii
When I was a young whippersnapper we had to smash rocks together to throw the spark back and forth.
I know, but thereās not much that can emulate 360 beyond handheld pcās. So Iām technically still safe from that kind of damage.
My bro bought our NES with his own money. Of course he also fried my PS1 trying to install a mod chip so...
unfortunately this
Nope deffo not late ps2 generation /early 360 generation
i mean, i'm 32 and my nostalgia is for late ps2 and early 360 myself
dude, they would have to be nostalgic for PS4/XboxONE and Wii U, nobody starts playing as a baby, normally someone born in 2004, would be out there gaming by 2010-2012 
I have nostalgia of the times. But I really don't want to go back and play the games. Lol
Anybody remember the leapfrog LeapPads? Those were my shit back in the day
I will admit though, the fact weāre slowly getting more handhelds than PC that can play PS3 is both fun and very harmful to my nostalgia since it reminds me that those released around 19 years ago.
unless people count nostalgia as "i played this when i was 6 years old and don't remember anything"
that counts to some degree
Have you forgotten people had ps2 because ps3 was expensive at launch day as well
Mine was called am etch a sketch. Is that the same thing?
Also I remember playing super Mario RPG at 9 on snes. SNES is my nostalgia system
I grew up playing nes, ms dos, snes, ps1, and n64 in roughly that order which is why Iām here lol
Im sitting here like "damn... im in the middle at 25"
Yeahā¦Sony fucked up with that priceā¦at least they learned their lesson. I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the PS5 Pro
Nah, they're pretty obscure so I wouldn't be surprised if most don't know about them, they were meant to be educational handhelds basically, I used to play a star wars the clone wars game on one a lot
I grew up poor so I also grew up with nes snes etc lol. However gonna join the 30s crew soon enough
my older sister had a megadrive, i sadly have no memory of that besides a little bit of kid chameleon, i don't think i ever even played it myself
N64 was great, but I can never go back and play those graphics. It was both the best and worst of times
I mean sure enough some may have had a PS2 around the kid used, my parents had a NES I occupied on Sunday mornings too, but if he is born in 2004, getting his own PS2 around the age kids wish for games and stuff seems unlikely
Still young, but becoming old at heart xD! Grew up with my GBA and my mom's N64 before I upgraded to the Wii and DS
I pretty much grew up entirely on hand-me-downs plus my family getting the PS2 for the DVD Player with my first proper handheld that was mine from the start being the DS Lite (forgot I actually had the Dialga/Palkia limited edition before the DSi, which I was sharing with my brother, but was still considered mine to keep).
Also very soon for most of you, you'll stop caring about age lol. At about 24-25 it just literally starts melting together
Yeah what with the financial crisis going on and everything when I was growing up most of my consoles came from pawn shops
First assassin's creed on PS3 was also a pivotal gaming moment. Was like, holy shit, this looks real
everyone born after 1999 is forever a kid in my eyes, no changing that 
people also just bought the 360 after seeing the price of the ps3, that's why it almost won the generation lol
They'll never know the fear of y2k
you get used to it, I never had a PS2 growing up and PS2 era games look like shit to me at first glance now, but if you give it a chance you acclimate to it after some time
.... this is a mood, i didn't think I would feel until last year
Not unlikely in the uk ps3 was expensive as well so people would had xbox 360 early one or ps2 or wii with psp or ds aside I had ps2 and games was still released on it
i still can't believe i was 27 when covid happened and 5 years have gone by
I was in high school damn
I regularly forget my exact age lol
You're probably right. Helps that for some systems and games there's now shaders and whatnot that can make them look better than they did on their og systems š
Covid happened a year after I graduated High school lmao
I was leaving high school ( secondary school in uk)
Y2K was fun, but I think 9/11 kinda had an bigger impact on our generation
many ps2 games are hard to play now, we've really improved in game feel and quality of life to be honest, from that era i mostly pick the games i'm already familiar with
The ps3 and Xbox 360 era was peak. Probably the biggest leap in graphical fidelity ever
it's when games started being actually modern without all the caveats we have now, i agree
lol nah, also not many good games
I had literally all of my most important college classes (in terms of the fundamentals for my major) during Covid.
I couldnāt learn anything since Iām a kinetic learner and they were all lab courses that for online learning had to effectively tell you the answers and not teach anything, so that royally has screwed me over even before getting hospitalized for a whole year. To the point that I recently had to move to a different college just to redo those classes and actually make it reasonably possible for me to graduate.
people dont know the real y2k bug happens in 2038
Mannnn ps3 and xbox 360 was last gen to bring different types of games from each major gaming company
Halo 3?!!!
I had my first kid during covid so it felt pretty normal to me. Just the normal not sleeping the first 6 months, etc.
Social life was rough after lockdown
Eh, I wouldnāt really call it great when it was outright the worst era for anyone who was fans of series from Japanese third parties.
(Capcom in particular was really rough).
Uncharted series Gears of War series Infamous series Max payne 3 Gta IV And Gta 5 I can go on and on even halo 3 4 reach osdt
it was easier for us in our thirties because we didn't have a social life to begin with
Yeah, it was really tough staying inside and not talking to anyone irl during covid. Good thing we're not doing that anymore
The first party exclusives were undefeated though
i agree, but it was probably the best period for western devs
out of these only Uncharted 2 was really good
Magicx should do a horizontal with that screen
Yeah, and then they immediately got cocky and started pulling pretty obnoxious shit.
gotta go to work and back home to be alone and away from people 
not immediately, they started boiling the frog
The ps4 exclusives were pretty great too, that's when xbox really started going downhill though. Nowadays exclusives just don't make as much sense unless the console has some unique gimmick
Ps1 is the best console ever made
Might just be the pro controller ergonomics
SNES
Let me not speak this is big bro opinion not mine ššš¤£
not gonna lie, i spent my entire 360 career in college playing modern warfare
probably my least diverse period of gaming
I switched to pc gaming exclusively after n64/ps1
I guess I'm an ant
I'm below the weight class in some of these discussions
Oh no, even before that Gen with the first Xbox they were already calling their DirectX stuff āthe Manhattan Projectā in private development (for the exact worse reason anyone can interpret).
And even then guys like Phil Fish were acting out pretty damn early in the gen.
Really I didn't even know about pc gaming until 2022
Slow mode is gone
I had a PC. I just only played wow on it. WOW and CoDMW were like 90% of my gaming for 4 years
Would raid until midnight. Take a line of shots. And head to bars. Lol
i was always a pc gamer, only stopped for a bit in the 360 era up until i got my own pc around 2010
I only made the switch to pc last summer really
it was always pretty normal to game on PC and console back in the day 
Phil Fish himself I canāt remember, when he specifically said his iconically bullshit statement, but I feel like I remember he at least only said it later towards the end of it.
Steamdeck has brought a lot of new faces. Most of my console friends are pretty comfy starting there
Xbox downfall was not continue build momentum after 2011 I felt sony was really fighting again
like I ain't playing Rollercoaster Tycoon on console 
nah, that was fine on SNES 
Steam deck for me I don't know it was so beautiful to see the games that you used to play on console on handheld
Yeah that's why I'm turning my legion go into my main pc
Although even then, Iāll at least not blame western devs for the absolute nonsense guys like X-Play were pullingā¦
man, I haven't put hours into some strategy-building game in ages 
Holy shit. I forgot it was even on SNES. Lol
Handheld gaming is just superior
Console gaming fits handhelds the best
Pc + switch 2 looks appealing
I dunno man. I can't thank Gabe enough. He had a vision. Most of what we have now wouldn't exist without him pushing it through. Will always get mad props from me
I'm pretty patient
Then I knew okay handheld gaming I need that shit
Oxygen not included has eaten up some nights
There are so many games in the world that by the time you play them all there are so many more
Once I get a proper egpu setup it's all over for desktops for me. I'm gonna lose some performance by using the handheld as a display but š¤·āāļø
I was honestly contemplating to build something powerful just for FF7Rebirth 
because fuck Sony and their PS5
I just quietly work on my backlog. Unless there's something friends won't shut up about. Then I just play it when they all do so they don't spoil the shit out of it for me
no games aside from one timed exclusive and they made the damn machine more expensive since launch
Word Gabe is really a genius
He just does what he wants to do, and doesn't have shareholders. If only other companies did the same
I mean it's lowkey nintendo we have to thank ngl, despite their scummy actions
Especially Nintendo as well
Sega really showed us the way with game gear
True. They'll always get my respect as well. Scary to think what gaming would be without them and valve. Sure we could rip off IP constantly. But it'd all be ass IP
pineapple
Valve just copied the design
I didn't even look at switch like that until 2022 as well I was thinking ohhh that's why people got swtich in the first place
Dreamcast was the first dual screen console š
without the Switchs success I doubt we would have gotten handheld PCs like the Deck
....right
Game gear just ate too many batteries. My parents got tired of buying them š
mine shit the bed over my Gameboy advance battery consumption, and got me one of those rechargeable battery packs 
GameBoy Advance SP was another big one for me at least
Yeah. Back when game gear launched they made one. But it lasted like 2 hrs. And took 4 to charge 
For as much as they do stupid shit, Nintendo paved the way for Valve to take charge. Without either of them, we all still he back in the Atari 7800 days
Nah, if weāre counting that, then itās technically PocketStation.
I feel like an ant now
Yep deffo
But I wish playstation didn't abandoned handheld scene it's sad
What a boring and depressing world it would be if the industry only had Peter Molyneux as a backbone. Lol
Yup, the Nintendo Seal of Approval is the original reason we can even get refunds for a non-functional game in the first place.
I don't think companies realized how many people would take potential portability over raw power until the Switch was all in about it.
Nah nah, it was the Game and Watch that did it first xD
Psp felt like the first proper real games for handheld
Since in the Atari days, most games flat out were non-functional and stores would just tell you to get fucked if you tried returning it.
And then compare that to the eshop now.... how the mighty have fallen
Pokemon red was plenty long
Or at least thatās what my dad told me.
Hell no, itās still better than Atari.
It helped what age the Nintendo generation was at that point too. We were all starting to adulting. Portability is how we were able to play anything
we don't talk about the E-shop
Yeah but it's still a mobile game, the graphics was huge
Does atari even count in the big 25
Hydrogen bomb vs crying baby
It was literally the āBig Meā when they were the main company around before Nintendo even did games.
violently dismembers a portion of the eshop every console generation
Yeah, Atari had virtually no competitors beyond arcades before the first game crash.
I was watching a displaced gamers video
I find it funny how there was no change in TV's for 60 years
Maybe, but they've been out of game for long they can't really be compared to modern Nintendo imo, right now we have the Big Three, which might turn into the the Big Two if xbox doesn't step their game up
Then the second computers pop up there's change
I mean atari is pretty dead and owned by hasbro now, if you count traditional with digital games they would be ~9th place for "game" companies
I should note Iām mostly running off of what my dad and Older sister would tell me about it, but unironically that shit would immediately have put them in the far distant first place of āscummiest company aroundā if they were around and doing that exact stuff today.
I'm not including pc because it gets a little more complicated
Valve is kind of in their own lane
Xbox is probably done this point they didn't no marketing until once or twice on tv like Starfield launch or this is xbox ad
Hell, the literal origin for Easter Eggs in games was the fact that the devs for an Atari game (that I currently canāt remember the name of) had to hide their names in the game with fun secrets since they were literally not allowed to have any form of actual public credit for making the game.
still arent in some studios
Hasn't Xbox actively dissolved their console? Everything is an xbox they just want you to buy the streaming service
Hasbro??????
Value is always the main front of PC
Fuck na
Everyone knows about steam
Even the kids
Epic games is just free games and fortnite
Yup, but at least it isnāt the literal default for everyone.
I have like 40 free games on epic that I haven't touched
Honestly yes and no we still xbox series s in stores but xbox series x is like 50/50
And GOG is like Physical media of PC
xbox dont sell well but they still sell
The series s is actually pretty good for more casual gamers
Like me who was inactive with gaming like 4 years
Iām all for hating on modern console companies for what they do, I refuse to ever pretend any of them were worse than what Atari originally was, because that just downplays how utterly horrid Atari was.
80s tech was pretty cut throat, looks at apple/microsoft in that era
no back left unstabbed and no code/tech not worth stealing
Almost everything any modern company has done can be traced back to being a heavily watered down version of the shit Atari pulled.
What did they do? They're a little before my time
Yup, at least nowadays they have to pretend to āplay niceā.
I had already been playing strategy games on PC while playing platformers and RPGs on console - but then Morrowind came out for PC and I was all in on that
yeah, i wish i had been more into PC RPGs back then
kinda missed that whole wave
never even really got into skyrim
I am getting back into retro crpgs and modern throwbacks to them these days - just started skald: against the black priory, playing Morrowind again, legend of Grimrock and planescape torment are both on the backlog, etc
Yeah. It's a sick list. I really need to dive back into those and see what I missed
Shit, I haven't played any witchers yet
Skald is nice
I love rpgs but I sometimes wish they didn't take 100 hours minimum
I've put like 40 hours into the Witcher 3 and I don't even think I'm halfway through the story, let alone the dlcs
Grimrock is so good, it reminds me of an old Mac rpg called Scarab of RA.
One of my favorites, on System 6 š
Older Might & Magic titles are also worth another look. 6, 7 & 8 especially
My problem is I'm a completionist. I need to learn how to just beat the core quests of this stuff so I can experience it and move it off my list. Lol
Same, which is even worse because for whatever reason I tend to like games with longer run times
you guys surprised that Ice Blue beat GC in the polls?
I found that kind of interesting
Nope
Someone brought up that the transparent bottom "fills out" the otherwise empty space since you can see the internals and I think that might be partly why it's more appealing.
It would've been a neat design choice if they offered a two-tone colour option that had transparent bottom inner parts.
Nah. GC is super cool. But the system colored ones will always appeal to people who feel nostalgia for that stuff. Most people just want white and black. And transparent is always cool too
SNES all the way
Yeah. I'll probably get it. But SNES was one of my fav systems growing up
I'm going black, I've got the SNES Flip and I like it but I want something different for the Flip 2
Ice blue has me worried about hinge and I'm not quite a fan of the GCN one since the c-stick placement doesn't match the normal controller
the fact that a thousand people voted means good things for them
Only 19% for black? Heresy
I kinda want a red one
This is me trying to find anything on topic on here
Hopefully all the drama and politics BS is over with
that's pretty much discord in a nutshell tbh
but as a general rule if you have to scroll a lot to find something of substance then nothing interesting really happened
Yes we've made peace now š
I know there isn't much to talk about the Flip 2 but c'mon we don't need that stuff here , we are all handheld nerds
The lack of substance is the interesting bit
Just not particularly informative
Or on topic
Once this comes out we're gonna have to move the political talks to the vertical channelš
I was like "Oh, lots of poasts - did they announce the price?" But then it was just Discord being Discord.
It's gotta be soon if they want to stick with "early March" for pre-orders, ahaha.
in my experience, chinas definition of "early" in a month is literally all the way up to the 15th of a month
Please donāt.
People also probably miss having a transparent option since we only had the backplate mod on the 5
missed from going 1 whole year without it 
True
1 year in this hobby feels like forever yet it all goes by so quick
I think i might be an imposter yall
I downloaded retroarch on my phone for the first time today, and (with an 8bitdo controller) this has been the best experience of goodboy galaxy, after having tried it on rg35xx, rg35xxsp, rp4p, and rgb30. Steam deck is nicer but it's heavier.
So now idk if I want a flip anymore lol
Or any emulaiton handheld
The modern human cattle love to consume. The longest wait is the wait before consuming more
Who is the udder
Rad enemy idea for game
In his own lane fr
Battle cats
Battle cows
Like the game
Oh LOL
This is what flash games used to be like
R.i.p. flash games
Speaking of which
Is there a portmaster version of flash
Flash master?
theres kinda a retroarch core
Wasn't there a flash archive that was made a while ago
I say kinda I dont think it works well or at all on most devices
Commando Assault
I could only ever beat the hacked versions
The music was crazy good
I was so happy to find Commando series was based on Iron Slug which has a game boy advance release
Commando really makes you FEEL like a Commando
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Real time strategy AND shoot em upāļøāļøāļø
Gimme gimme
Retroid handheld scene at its most toxic isnāt even a fraction as toxic as 90% of gaming communities at their least toxic
Oh for sure, still, it is a bit funny how quickly the topics can escalate
Itās always funny to hear ppl talk about things like that while Iām in like hundreds of more discord with way way more drama even on a mild day
Smash community lmaooooooo
Literally any community that may have at least a quarter of the user base be under 18
Will probably be infinitely more toxic
we will have to try harder 
Yea u guys need to pick up the slack
Most smash players are older though aren't they
No the average competitive player is like 17-25
The more you know
And the average player thatās not hardcore competitive can often be a minor
All the old people have wrist problems or something idk
Mix in the fact that Steve from Minecraft is so good in the game that heās basically banworthy and heās a character where most people who play them are under 18 and ur gonna see some crazy harassment towards children
rite of passage to shit on kids online in a game 
True
And this is probably infinitely less toxic than the COD community
Let alone something like the Genshin fandom
"oh your new at this? get shit on" 
Or league
The bigger the community the more toxic
Not always, Kirby community pretty tame
cod4 noob tubes across the map into spawn was always good for a freak out š
And itās relatively big from what Iāve heard
Bigger than smash? š¤
Some cases folks need to grow a spine imo
Yea maybe not that big
But its not small kirby fan art and kirby specialists exist everywhere
But tbf I donāt really know many ppl who pretty much only interact with Kirby stuff
Thereās not much substance
None of the retro handheld creators have been cancelled. The most controversial by far is DNA mobile gaming but he kinda just is all over the place and a bit reactionary not like an objectively bad person or anything.
The guy who makes the steamdeck add on screens?
So you could do a lot worse tbh
Could also do better though
He does that yea but he also did some shady stuff with es-de I think and he got in some heat for his retroid reviews since the review is⦠not good
Calling rp mini not bright enough for outdoors and double downing is a take for sure
hes past due for shipping his first round of preorders 
Yea
yeah thats pretty tame
Taki and Retro Dodo also had their fair bit of controversy but itās really nothing interesting
thought it would at least be emu dev shitfit teir
i mean, dna DID have a shitfit
Dna just comes off a little arrogant at times but nothing crazy
when he got called out for selling pirated apps
Like the worst of the community outside of individual randos is just ppl who are a little egotistical
This is now cow chat
hes banned from here and most other discords related to retrogames lol
did u see my cow? š
It was udderly the best 
i had one other but i lost it
the guy drinks milk and turns into a cow and it cycles
it was WEIRD š
Tahlreths also controversial but heās not really retro handheld adjacent just an emu dev but he was kinda just at worst a dick
Retroid Flip 2 COW
Wasnāt even like he was being racist or anything he was just kinda socially inept but talented
most devs are exactly that lol
oh no its late and stubbs is drunknly changing things
But this is mostly tahlreth
Just wait until tomorrow 
Other emu devs sometimes get driven a little crazy
i already failed to get drunk today, 8ox of rum down the drain
But tahlreth was like actually toxic
ā¦What did I just walk into and why is the channel now Flip 2 COW?
TOMORROWāļøāļøāļø
Even his own discord mods didnāt like him
Heās well known for going out of his way to constantly berate members in his discord
surreal bovine choreography.
No cows were harmed during the making of this video, though their future prospects probably aren't as optimistic.
music is available here: http://cyriak.co.uk/music.html
Software used: adobe after effects
Pretty different than an emu dev having a bad day because someone asked for the 6th time to make a game run on a potato
Still early
Wait why
kitty city is my fav of this guys
For Sparta
Look at what you've done Retroid
They'll all be lining up at the slaughterhouse once prices are announced
People are going to think we're calling them cows, but we just want to have only cows posted here
cows vs aliens you say?
Here's the epic saga of cows vs aliens, in higher resolution and widescreen.
When I first uploaded it in 2007, youtube had a maximum video quality of 240p, and the compression looked like someone had chewed up the video and spat it out. That has always bothered me with this video, so here it is again with more pixels. I also went to the troubl...
Don't remind me of KTR1!
Flip 2 is $250 reaction
god so many cow gifs that go way over the line
Devs POV
Does that translate to
Play more games buy less handhelds?
Games are chicken
I get it now
Chicken š©
Chicken shishkabobs are really good
found the one i was looking for
I am not good at compressing gifs for discord's 500K sticker limit 
immediately does
i used to have it as a gif lol
My wife walked in the room at this exact moment

a handheld with an ibm nipple would be cool actually for mouse stuff in games
now we wait
haha you linked that to him
is that dms lol
this means it is 100% happening
they could sell it as a skin
I showed him our thread name, he accepts this, and knows the pressure is on now
cow intensifies
NEXT WEEK NO MORE COWS? Let's see š®
Etsy will save us
people wanted a gamecube mini, talk to this guy 
https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ffp8xw/rp5_rp_mini_skins_for_fun_zelda_and_all_the/
its funny cuz only the box was cow print
Noctua theme
Halk tuaw
looks like theres at least 3 free emoji slots for the server......
We finally capped out our emojis, this is impressive
219 animated emoji slots free though! 
10 cows per day till release
Sleep well all, thanks for entertaining my unhinged brain š
political comment warning:
||you canāt be real. afd ties to neo fascism get exposed all the time. you personally may not want to believe it, but itās facts and itās actually old news.
you do you, you vote whatever you want. you may think afd does provide solutions for you. thatās fair. but calling them a conservative party and denying their fascist scheme is not.||
|| 99% could vote for them, they'd still be far right and fascist. ||
||cows go moo||
When you have 400,000 channels dedicated to Chinese handhelds but not one single politics channel
stubbs could make a cow channel for politics 
How will this affect handheld prices?
just forget about the flip 2 and use this channel for only politics
lol probably not at all š
but hey, who knows?
Please no my integer scaling it's flickering spare me!!!!!
Here we go again
Does it really matter if I can see the comment when it's going to start the convo again?
i might pickup black flip 2 and mod it into ps2 buttons
sir this is discord.
is it really necessary to comment on that? if you do not like to read messages in a spoiler, you are free to just not do that. you were warned about itās content. just ignore it.
Why does this channel say only cows?
people got very dumb in here yesterday
There is yes
Cows have 4 stomachs so they can rechew their cud 20 hours later
The flash archive is called flashpoint I think
Is this a minecraft movie tie-in
https://www.instagram.com/justsomejacob
#emulation #retrogaming #retro #gaming #retroidpocket
love that' it's just the flip 1 the whole vid
i mean it makes sense, we don't have any real shots of the v2
What is this channel name lol
We on a cow strike until we get more info
Maybe we'll get more info today tho. So shouldn't be long
š® š

lol
I'm going to throw some steaks on the BBQ in protest today
Except for the promotional images, we have nothing else
Well. And the stats and dimensions and colors
We're only missing dates and prices
I go to bed for the evening and come back and there's a cow color scheme for the Flp 2 now? WHERE ARE THE PREORDERS? I MUST PREORDER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!!
If there isn't someone at Retroid peeping this and setting up a secret black/white two-tone colour option they're missing out.
Does it really matter if I read the comment when I know it's going to start the convo?
I would like to avoid another lockdown of this channel
lowkey wasn't considering buying a flip 2, but this might push me over the line
Shell needs more black spots
This looks like an 8bitdo edition. Soooo cleannn
What did I miss overnight lolololol
This channel is oddly exciting to wake up to for reasons completely unrelated š
I find the retroid flip 2 somewhat lacking in sophistication
Ok thatās probably enough cow tools
call it the camoooflage colorway
Please can we have
CowOS
cowTools
cowManager
I would unironically buy this
Portmooster
If nothing else, I hope someone makes a cow pattern skin/sticker for the Flip 2 now š
isn't Rocknix technically due for a rebrand, since it's no longer just for Rockchip devices?
It already wasnāt considering they were already still updated Rocknix versions of their older JELOS builds for non-Rockchip stuff like the S922X devices.
š
F seems iconic!
The masses have spoken
If people sent rp4 pros to the rocknix guys, could they get Linux for the Rp4 pro/ d1100 RP flip 2
unfortunately no, because the dimensity chips aren't open enough for that to happen
Damn
If device manufacturers wanted Linux for their android only dimensity devices, could they get Linux on them?
Is that why panfrost is only for mali gpus used in rock chip chips?
Itās because of the fact RockChips are among the only few APUās with Mali that people can actually swap in a custom driver for.
What makes them special?
GOAT design. Or is it COW design? 
The chip manufacturer is the one doing it?
Basically just the fact that theyāre completely open source in their software.
They arenāt exactly special in that theyāre the only ones who do it (since there are other APU developers that allow that level of tinkering), Rockchip is just the most readily available.
But the rock chip are pretty weak right?
Relative to like Odin 2
Needs more udders
Idk how the "this channel is always off topic" allegations started but they weren't true until admins stepped in and actually made it off topic???? It was pretty consistently about what little information we had on the flip 2.
The cow theme is a strategy to disarm much more controversial and heated off topic stuff about European politics, a similar thing happened when the ktr1 channel was temporarily made about aliens when it got too spicy
Though I guess since I made that beer I shouldāve posted in #1203441526726852720 š
lol i remember that ktr1 thing
man that was weird
also the main person is such a toxic person
(not nil, the advocate for kt, shigeru or whatever he is)
No
He's lowkey right
Part of the issue is that I feel like there isnāt much to tell or speculate on for the flip 2
Itās just an rp5 with a hinge
Price and date is all thatās left
It's gonna be 300 retrillion dollars
Talk about what games you think will be fun on it
Talk about what colors you wish it had
Weird choice for a grip, but sure.
100% unironically, I would buy this.
Whoops, missed a layer.
Donāt ask, just walk away and wait until someone finally gets Stubbs under control.
stubbs is always in control
i still havent forgiven him for removing my beloved RG353m and retroid 3+ channel
5090 when?
Ok, finally! I was looking for an explanation that wasnāt just ācowā.
If I can't get succulent Retroid milk from my Flip 2's massive udders I'm gonna scream
when that level of performance gets in the sub $500 range
thats the 5070
buy it
bish that ain't sup $500
whats it supposed to be
IDK sub $700
either way I'm good on GPU for a long while as long as publishers focus their teams for optimization
thats the thing
i dont think they will
and alot of devs are complaining 8gb vram isnt enough
and its limiting them
which is probably due to shit engine optimization
UE5 seems to be really bad with this
It used to be devs would optimize and develop new ways of compression š„²
Now they just slap in uncompressed textures and call it "HD"
remember when games on PC were less than 20gbs
like Titan Quest Anniversary with all the DLC is like 19gb
they were complaining before ue5
its just louder on ue5
im hitting 15gb vram with my 4080s
and im liek
DO I NEED 4090?????
But yeah, it's mainly just uncompressed textures everywhere.
I WILL SEE ALL THE PIXELS
Like, we don't need uncompressed 4K/8K textures everywhere.
The heck you guys doing.
its one of those, yes you don't need 32gb desktop ram, or more than 12gb Vram
killing a fridge dragon
currently with MHWs and my browser on the side, that 32gb is needed
im debating do i get 128gb right now
im hitting 98% on 32gb
Some apps/games will just use whatever's available.
and i dont want to upgrade from 64gb if that isnt enough
Nah I understand why you wouldn't want texture compression that can fuck shit up
Look at Sonic's shoes lol
thing is
That's just bad compression with low res textures.
with more vram, you can load more textures, so even if you are on lower quality preset, the texture should make the game look better anyways
and are you going to notice in motion
I WILL SEE ALL THE PIXELS
Yes
Especially around all the specialty material maps in modern games that are often half res precisely to save up on compression that then get compressed so you can see the compression artifacts in what's supposed to be finer detail lighting
Like cmon
I can't believe the Pokemon games can look so bad when there are other Switch games that look so good.
They could save a lot of power if the world textures matched the visual aesthetic of the characters.
Games usually use as much vram as possible, it doesn't necessarily mean you need more
What's sad is this still looks significantly better than ScarVi
Like, there was no need to have terrible looking "realistic" style floor textures when the characterse tend to have smoothed out visuals.
Someone posted this comparison and I thought at first that the top was one of those out of bounds low detail versions of an area lol
And instead of employing tricks like software texture recolouring and overlaying I bet they just used a bunch of unique textures instead bloating up VRAM usage.
Feels like that top screenshot was in handheld mode...but it could also be that the bottom one is "Switch 2 Enhanced" š¤
Udder perfection
Moo
mhm 9070 xt
That seems about right given the given dimensions on the specs sheet for the Flip 2 are also very similar to the Flip
yep, i just wanted to post the confirmation since people had wanted to debate it before even tho we actually had measurements 
Oh no, they flat out said that it would be a Switch 1 game alone, there wouldnāt be a cross platform version on Switch 2.
Juryās still out on if it wonāt get something like a Switch-2 update for fps, but thatās in fact what theyāre effectively saying it will look like on the Switch 1.
In terms of PokĆ©mon games before Z-A, thatās because every pokemon game (until supposedly this one) has outright had only 2 years of dev time for each game, and theyāre working with minimal full time devs.
Itās an annoying situation where the execs are pulling bullshit because most of the money the PokĆ©mon franchise makes is in merchandise, and the games are effectively just a means to the end of making more pokemon for that merchandising.
And yeah, Iām currently wondering wtf people are talking about with āZ-A looking as bad as ScViā because did they play ScVi? That shit looked way fucking worse than what weāre currently seeing with Z-A.
the scope seems a lot smaller for z-a
And ScVi looked unironically even worse in the earlier advertising.
i haven't played scarlet and violet anyway so i can't say
Its ROUGH
Like
yeah that i know
You can tell this was rushed out for a deadline
So if this is supposed to be the same level of early footage for Z-A, that actually looks like itās gonna be a really big upgrade from ScVi.
I said it before and I'll say it again: holding my tounge till the full release or data mines
Which ever is first
more or less Datamine
I agree on waiting for the idea of it getting better than what weāre currently seeing, but currently? Iām still going to still say this is already a pretty big upgrade from ScVi.
Oh im not disagreeing at all
Im just keeping my expectations leveled until the release
Cause ScVi was fucking awful in regard to that stuff, even if you could debate there were still some good parts to the game. Trying to pretend that Z-A is somehow āas badā is literally just a completely undeserved compliment for ScVi.
That we can agree on, I still donāt fully trust that the execs were being honest about changing how things work in development, considering they were fully willing to lie like dogs in claiming āthe devs love being rushed to hell and back, and they also love having a low staff to work withā.
The intent is to provide the developer with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different benefits
Intent of what?
Do you mean the structure of Game Freakās development process?
Of crunch I guess idk I just wanted to reference that one EA comment lol
Ah, got it.