Anbernic RG34XXSP

[stark heath]

It finally showed up 😆

[barren roost]

it's a 3.4 inch 720x480 res display vs a 3.5 inch 640x480 display

[gaunt coral]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-happy-dance-seinfeld-gif-15071542

LATE LIVE STREAM LETS GO

[stark heath]

Livestream tomorrow? We could do a teardown.

[gaunt coral]

I just bit the bullet and ordered one via RH ali link!

[stark heath]

Anything anyone is still wondering about for it?

[gaunt coral]

Size comparison when closed stacked, vs miyoo and 35, ergo with sticks? Assuming bad?

[stark heath]

Let's do it

[gaunt coral]

Did you get the one from Anbernic direct? Or is that one lost forever?

[silent spear]

if you have an og gba sp then I think it woukd be important to conpare the two cause they are kinda competing with each other

for a while the gba sp was still valid for being the only clamshell to integer scale gba but now after the rg34xxsp is releasing I'm not sure objectively speaking

[stark heath]

This is direct, Indigo, grey, bag, and a giant stack of papers like rob got but even more 😂

I haven't unboxed yet

[stark heath]

I do!

Good call

[gaunt coral]

I wonder thats the paperwork if the US would open the box and be like, what is this free shipping/no tariff thing? It explains its a review unit

[stark heath]

Ahhh its a novel explaining maybe 🤔

[gaunt coral]

Or its Gary crying for help. Each page is one of of his days in China.

[stark heath]

A tale of 2 review units

[gaunt coral]

How long you going to keep it before sending to Russ?

[stark heath]

I'm mailing it tomorrow

[sick ridge]

Anyone know why shipping on the rg34xxsp is so much more than what’s typical on other handhelds?

[stark heath]

He has an indigo from bill, and im mailing him grey

[sick ridge]

The cost to ship is 25-30% of the device cost… is this typical at release? And I’m just late to figuring it out?

[stark heath]

Tariff costs added into shipping basically

This is new

Each brand is handling the additional cost a little different it seems

[sick ridge]

Even if it’s from the US wearhouse? I guess extra shipping step through like India?

Fair point tho, thanks Stubbs

[stark heath]

Yeah they are having to bulk import and spreading some of that cost onto us

Now they are able to ship direct from China again though, so we might see prices fluctuate

[sick ridge]

I might just sit tight. I do really want the 34 sp, but I also don’t want to take a bad deal on it.

[stark heath]

Singapore seems to be the forwarder i keep hearing

Yeah good to wait

It might get better soon enough

[signal axle]

Good morning Stubbs

[winter lintel]

Good morning Stubbs

[gaunt coral]

Are you excited for the live stream @winter lintel ?!@!

[stark heath]

Good morning Stubbs

[hearty yacht]

good morning stubbs

[merry ember]

Good morning Stubbs

[gaunt coral]

Also how do the speakers compare to the 35xx and Miyoo

[spring ginkgo]

Good morning Stubbs

[plain hollow]

Bad morning Stubbs

[narrow magnet]

I asked them to drop the sticks if they wanna do one 🤣

[warm mantle]

The sticks are important imo, you need them past GBA... And a $15 V90 plays GBA so...

[narrow magnet]

#1348860122402787389 message
they’re having problems with them though

[warm mantle]

Or an rg35xxsp which are pretty cheap when I last checked.

Basically you definitely need sticks for it to be successful, otherwise you lose n64/some psx/dc/psp for starters.

And ds

[narrow magnet]

My old v90 ran gba poorly iirc

[warm mantle]

Hrm, i had sup m3s with the same chipset, and I only ran into an issue with a romhack.

[narrow magnet]

I think it’s got something to do with dynarec

[warm mantle]

Basically they're going to get clobbered by the competition if they make another limited gba sp clone.

No need for an rk3326 if you're not going past snes/gba.

They need dual sticks 100%

[narrow magnet]

It’s probably going to be thicc then

[warm mantle]

Ok

[narrow magnet]

I don’t think they’d invest on a custom rocker like anbernic does

[warm mantle]

I mean it's foldable so it's still pocketable even if it's a couple mm thicker than a gba sp or an rg35xxsp

That might be an issue, but mark my words, it will be doa with no analog sticks due to price competition.

V90, rg35xxsp, and rg34xxsp hemming it in.

[narrow magnet]

maybe some psp sticks? 🤣 they’re going to play some psp anyways 😆

[warm mantle]

I have a psp, that stick is ass.

[narrow magnet]

That’s the lowest profile stick I can think of 🤣

[warm mantle]

Basically make a foldable r36s and throw in a wifi chip and they'll be good.

Rg34xxsp sticks look ok to me

[narrow magnet]

r36sp

[warm mantle]

Works for me

[hearty yacht]

only sp product that hasn't been done so far is a small (i.e. not rg35xxsp/v90s size) with a 3:2 or 1:1 screen and no sticks

[narrow magnet]

that’s anbernic’s custom

[warm mantle]

And we know how china works with that.

Once it's at a factory, it's fair game.

I have a rg35xxsp, the "dpad" is ass, but it's nice otherwise for gba games.

[narrow magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-totally-right-wren-weichman-corridor-crew-youre-correct-you-are100percent-right-gif-24990168

[warm mantle]

Anyway I would encourage them to have analogs on their flip console for the above reason...

Or they're gonna have a bad time.

[oak solar]

The comparison pictures make the 35XXSP's screen look much bigger than it actually is. Would have probably been a more intuitive comparison with the screens turned on

[spring ginkgo]

What's the final consensus on buttons? are they indeed the same as 35xxSP?

or are they improved

[cunning pollen]

I tried a build of yquake2, twin stick FPS controls. Not so comfortable (but ran ok). Definitely will be sticking to GBA on on mine.

[plain hollow]

BRING BACK THE 3DS SLIDERS!!!

I'd take those over Vita and Switch sticks any day

[tame aspen]

I’ll have to try these and make my judgement

If it ever ships

[serene oar]

@compact tiger Nice review! Is the indigo color similar to the indigo 34XX? It looks different from photos.

[compact tiger]

@toxic whale people like your review

Unfortunately I never had an indigo 34xx but I assume they were similar

[serene oar]

I like both the written review by @toxic whale and the video by you 🙂

[compact tiger]

Ah, gotcha
The video was just a first impressions not a review so I get it mixed up with the written review that was out today

I don't have a lot of "Indigo" devices, but the 34xx is a little darker than my RP2+

[gaunt coral]

Good morning @stark heath when you planning on streaming ?

[stark heath]

Goooood morning. 12pm pst is tentative, I'll know for sure in about an hour.

[young dragon]

Isn't that just a bulkier RG35XX Plus then? With smaller shoulder buttons

Honestly I won't be surprised if someone decided to make an RG35XX Plus clamshell mod

[barren roost]

isn't that just a RG35XX 2024, with a wifi chip

[stark heath]

Going live in 20 min!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB6zYYMuiyo

[signal axle]

Good morning

[sage raptor]

Idc about pixel perfect. Want SNES, GBA, & some N64. Is this or Miyoo Flip screen better?

[tame aspen]

This screen is better for gba

[gaunt coral]

4:3 35xx is better for SNES/N64 but with no stick. Miyoo has a 4:3 screen, but the quality control is so bad either your hinge with break or the SD card reader. I'd highly avoid miyoo

[vital minnow]

Just don't buy a grey miyoo flip right now if you're planning on getting one

[gaunt coral]

Or dont complain when something goes wrong with the miyoo because you were warned. They are notorious for shady quality with constant version upgrades.

[vital minnow]

Or just don't buy a grey one

[gaunt coral]

The SD card not working is on all colours....

SD card doesnt work, you cant play games...

It happened to stubbs unit

[vital minnow]

On the v1?

[sage raptor]

I want sticks so no 35

I should really just get one of these ordered to replace my Flip

Does RG34 have one or two open positions it clicks into?

[gaunt coral]

The flip is more expensive, doesnt have bluetooth, and has terrible quality control. So buy at your own risk.

[sage raptor]

Everything is a risk lol

[gaunt coral]

If you hear a car has high risk of the engine setting on fire, and another one that doesnt..you typically go for the one that doesnt.

[sage raptor]

I thought Anbernic was the fire one?

[gaunt coral]

Think that was powkiddy

[sage raptor]

If the QC is low, there’s still a chance you get a good Miyoo?

Are the buttons loud?

I’m pretty sure Miyoo Flip has Bluetooth. Never used it and don’t care but I swear it does

[tame aspen]

The miyoo flip would be pretty good if it wasn’t bad

[sage raptor]

the hate is so hyperbolic

[signal axle]

There are too many counts of it breaking. It's justified

[clear hatch]

skepticism is certainly justified, but none of my flips (including my gray one) have had any issues. I had more trouble with a clear 35XXSP that has trouble reading most SD cards (that work in my other 35XXSPs). But the risk with the flip is higher, sure. I still love mine, and I ordered two 34XXSPs to compare and probably like even better.

[tame aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742103593158574122/1354198233055887543/IMG_3788.gif

[boreal finch]

Miyoo called me and told me to tell you that there is no problem, the hinge works totally fine on their flip

[clear hatch]

lol

[sage raptor]

I love my yellow flip and just realized the 34 yellow is WAY more yellow. But I think it’s still my preferred

Excited to get it and compare. I’m sure I’ll end up with the 34

[clear hatch]

I keep waiting for my gray flip to fail, but I now carry a V2 black one for Spruce testing instead, so the gray is unlikely to fail in the case in a drawer, but who knows with this thing.

[boreal finch]

I really love my yellow Miyoo Mini, is the Miyoo Flip the same yellow?

[clear hatch]

I haven't thought about it, I'll have to get them out when I'm home and see

[signal axle]

Lol once I start seeing users I personally know getting the same issues, I just dismiss the device

[sage raptor]

Nobody reports the 35 hinge breaking?

[signal axle]

Miyoo flip

I've not seen anyone I know report the 35 hinge breaking

And I've even seen people try to break the hinges on both the flip and 35. The miyoo flip broke. The 35 did not

[muted vessel]

I've seen a couple broken 35xxSPs

but it seems rare compared to how popular that handheld is

[clear hatch]

I've only personally seen one broken 35XXSP, and zero Flips, but I know that's not typical

[tawny dagger]

Yeah, most damning thing is the sample size was way smaller for how many broken hinges showed up.

[clear hatch]

I figure, unless they're terrible, I'll have to get another 34xxsp in indigo to match my cobalt GBASP because I have the pokemon disease

Then again, I've already proven I have more handhelds than sense, but that's because I spend my cents on handhelds

[sage raptor]

Yellow vs. indigo is a tough decision for me. Yellow looks more fun tho

[stark heath]

Good morning $ Mmuny!

[late solstice]

Hmmm

Definitely the grey

[sage raptor]

Hooooooo boy

Thanks!

[signal axle]

Dibs

[sage raptor]

The action buttons on indigo make that the most fun. But the yellow case is more fun IMO

[sage raptor]

Screen difference doesn’t look like much

Gray for another boring handheld
Indigo for nostalgia.
Yellow for fun.

[stark heath]

Absolutely!

[compact tiger]

I'm now disgusted by Miyoo's Yellow

[stark heath]

https://tenor.com/view/right-in-the-trash-saturday-night-live-straight-in-the-trash-right-in-the-garbage-bag-throw-it-in-the-trash-gif-23601951

[tame aspen]

Yeah I’m not a fan of moderately hydrated piss yellow

[late solstice]

I think you’ll find that’s “baby diarrhoea beige”

[tame aspen]

Ah yeah my bad

[late solstice]

Moderately hydrated piss yellow comes at an extra charge with an extra 1kb of ram

[marble meteor]

How would you say the build quality compares to a trimui brick? Kind of a random comparison but I'm trying to choose between the two

[late solstice]

Do you have any other devices at the moment?

[tame aspen]

Still waiting for my order to ship

[marble meteor]

No I bought a g350 as a gift and now I'm trying to find something for myself

[late solstice]

The brick is a really nice device, feels surprisingly premium for the price and has a great screen. If you’ve got big hands you might struggle though

[marble meteor]

Not a concern unfortunately lol, my only thing is that a clamshell feels like something I can carry around without worrying

[gaunt coral]

Just picked up the grey one from alixpress. Says Delivery: Jun 01 - 11 from China to Canada

[sage raptor]

Nice. US is May 24-30

[earnest pecan]

and a worse dpad

[whole hawk]

Right, the worse D-Pad we don’t even know about yet because they’ve only shown that one shell part so far.

[clear hatch]

re mini yellow vs flip yellow - not even close imo

[compact tiger]

We can go further

Yellow Miyoo Mini vs RGB10

[stray torrent]

I'm so sad the mini is going away but I don't think it's worth getting one when I already have a 40xxv

[ebon dock]

For most id say the mini plus is the way to go really

[stark heath]

Next we need RP Classic Pokemon yellow

[ebon dock]

I appreciate what the og mini did but I could never play on that size

[compact tiger]

If only I had one of those

[compact tiger]

I miss that thang

[languid sluice]

Shame the indigo one wasn't all grey controls, would have been the ideal contrast, skittles weren't needed on it or the black

[tender quartz]

Hi I’m sorry if this is a dumb question does it support 128GB sd card ? I just received my unit and I’ve transferred all the files from the included sd card to my new one (excluding the roms) but it doesn’t seem boot up

[stuck garnet]

did you flash the OS to the new sd card?
or is it just the roms card your talking about
if its the first thing i said, you cant just copy that card, you have to do special steps

[tender quartz]

Ohh 🤦‍♀️ yeah I didn’t flash it. Do u know if it uses the same os as the Rg35xx sp? I don’t see one for the 34sp on their website

[stuck garnet]

each of the stocks have their own unique stuff i think

if your not doing stock i suggest MuOS

[tender quartz]

@stuck garnet Thanks so much for your help 💜 I’ll look into muOS

[late solstice]

Anbernic yellow looks pretty close to my old GBC

Tempting….

[compact tiger]

Their yellow is surprisingly good

[sage raptor]

Can you stretch the screen to get rid of the borders? What are the downsides of doing that?

[upbeat mesa]

They replied to me. Seems like they are working on V3.

[vital minnow]

[timid token]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e528oYFmsYI

Looks like it's not a true 3:2 display

which explains the bezels

[vital minnow]

Ain't no way lmao, they really did pull an rp mini

[muted vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-smile-cat-cat-tight-smile-wide-smile-cat-cat-wide-smile-cat-gif-12207868737982701324

[signal axle]

Anbernic fell to the hands of aspect ratios!! Smh

At least it's not missing pixels lol

And where is our 3.5in 1280x960 device now

[vital minnow]

Yeah it seems to be better than rp mini for scaling at least

[muted vessel]

presumably the 35xx+ successor

[signal axle]

I'll take it!

[muted vessel]

though the display mode for that res on this panel is 75hz so unless they can adjust timings down to 60hz it might not be usable

[signal axle]

Hopefully!

[dreamy narwhal]

watch that gamma figures out how to fix that in a week

[muted vessel]

I mean I'm still happy with the end result of the 34xx (not sp) but in the case of this SP I'm just left wondering why lol

[vital minnow]

So does that mean the 34xx is also using a 4:3 panel?

[muted vessel]

yes

just the gba shell doesn't require a weird fivehead

[vital minnow]

Kind of crazy it took this long to find out tbh

[muted vessel]

well they seemed to pull off the weird screen shit a lot better than retroid did lmao

[night current]

Are you sure? The 34xx is dimmer than this sp.

[muted vessel]

according to the phawx they're the same if I'm understanding the video correctly

different backlight could be assembled to the same display

[dreamy narwhal]

I think the 34xx non sp devs would have noticed already when messing with the 120hz enable

[night current]

Hmm

[muted vessel]

can't wait for the 35yySP

with the full uncovered screen 😆

[ember cargo]

oh my god

another RP Mini situation, this is crazy, what is it with manufacturers faking screen sizes

[signal axle]

I think the situation is a lot less worse because the pixels scale perfectly still lol

[sage raptor]

I have no idea what any of this means 🤡

[vital minnow]

Yeah the phawx says it's fine so I'll take his word for it tbh

[signal axle]

He also says it's his favorite gba device right now too

[sage raptor]

Can you stretch the screen to get rid of those bezels? What’s the downside of that?

[signal axle]

The bezel is part of the shell

We don't know if you can stretch it. I mean it's inherently a 4:3 screen so maybe? It's just probable that anbernic releases a device using it

[dreamy narwhal]

it appears to be also painted/blacked out as part of the laminated front screen tho

[muted vessel]

I do wonder if a combo of software mod and a new plastic front bezel could get you the full 4:3 screen on this lmao

[signal axle]

Vertical mod for 34xx sp

Wait

What if you can fit it in a 35xx sp

[muted vessel]

or modify the 35xxH with the double res panel

[signal axle]

Is the h700 even capable of playing the retro games to that screen res

Lol

[finite gate]

rg34xxsp v2 when

[whole hawk]

Oh god damnit!

Like, at least it wasn’t something as egregious as the 720p Square screen (like what I first got worried about before I rationalized it as impossible for the SP), but seriously?!

[muted vessel]

increasing your screen res for better interpolation on 2d stuff is functionally free

[signal axle]

Oh nice

[muted vessel]

running CRT shaders at that higher res or upscaling 3d is where you cost more GPU oomf

[signal axle]

I've never had to even consider it for higher than the actual resolution lol

[whole hawk]

Even worse, the RG34XX was sold only like 2 months after the RP Mini, which is also before we ever even knew about the screen being the LG Wing.

[whole hawk]

We could ask the same about why it took this long for people to realize the RP Mini’s screen, and the answer would still be the same “people didn’t think to check until now”.

[signal axle]

Honestly if that's what it took to birth the 34xx, it was masterfully done lol

This one is much more questionable

[whole hawk]

Nah, not if they made the screen driver only think of the screen as a 720x480 panel on the software end. That fooled even Gamma, and he’s the guy who first found out about the 120hz thing.

[tame aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-1174038786188830953

[signal axle]

I shill for this device so hard though. Someone else make a better clamshell and maybe I'd care more

[sage raptor]

Sorry, I mean the black or gray on the right and right in these. Can you remove those so you have the whole screen? What’s the downside of that?

[tame aspen]

Ye I’d still shill

At least anbernic didn’t fuck up the scaling

[signal axle]

Yeah

[whole hawk]

Honestly, I’m now just pissed because I literally point blank had planned to open up my 34XX when people first brought up how “the 720x720 screen is a perfect 3.4” 720:480 for 3:2 stuff”, but then I got lazy and rationalized it as “well, there’s no way they could have fit the 720x720 screen in the SP version, so it’s likely just a coincidence”.

[tame aspen]

1280x960 anbernic handheld when

[cyan spade]

Another Scam of hiding pixels from China

[night current]

Looks at 406v/h? or do you mean 3,5” specifically.

[tame aspen]

Those are 720p tho

[whole hawk]

Wait, that’s the resolution of the actual screen?

[tame aspen]

Yup

[whole hawk]

…But that doesn’t work for integer scaling.

[tepid rose]

Another day Another why companies like to false advertising on thier devices

[whole hawk]

Good fucking lord, is this even more like the RP Mini?!

[tame aspen]

Did you watch phawx’s video

He explains how they do it

Slight overscan

[night current]

Oh are they. Nvm don’t listen to me. Still waking up.

[tame aspen]

Need that morning coffee huh lol

[night current]

GBA isn’t 720x480

[whole hawk]

Not yet, I was actually just about to set it up.

[whole hawk]

That’s both 3x integer scaling and the advertised resolution of the 34XX screen.

[cyan spade]

Anyways we have answer why we don't have most compact GBA SP possible

[tame aspen]

I think he said it was 96 pixels cut off vertically and 6 cut off horizontally

[night current]

Anyway yeah watch phawx video.

[tame aspen]

Next gen 35XX gonna have this screen for sure

[tepid rose]

So two for two devices that anbernic kinda mess up at launch

[signal axle]

Lol what

[night current]

I wouldn’t say it’s messed up. It does what it sets out to do.

[tepid rose]

But again

[tame aspen]

I wouldn’t say it as a mess up cuz unlike retroid it actually scales correctly

[night current]

This just in. Internet is upset at something. More news at 5.

[tame aspen]

Albeit with some overscan shenanigans

[tepid rose]

So it's like not mess up but just like a

Strange decision

[tame aspen]

A little white lie

[tepid rose]

You can say that

[signal axle]

I have an snes one coming in and I'm hyped

Don't give a damn!

[tame aspen]

Same

Hyped for my indigo

[tepid rose]

Oh well as long the hinge is good that's all matters to people who like the sticks and small

[gaunt coral]

Does that mean the regulard RG34 XX is also using a borked screen?

[tame aspen]

I don’t really care what kind of shenanigans they have to pull the get the reported display specs, as long as it integer scales properly

[tame aspen]

Probably

[timid token]

It scales correctly which is really all that matters... but ngl still feels like buying a v6 and finding out it's a v8 with 2 pistons disabled though

[whole hawk]

Ok, I just relooked at the scaling with regular GBA and I’m also watching the video, but is this the actual way they’re handling it? Where it’s actually 5x upscaling instead of 3x?

[tame aspen]

1.78 scaling with overscan

[whole hawk]

…So it’s not integer scaled?

Which is the exact thing I was talking about?

[gaunt coral]

I wonder if people are going to riot like they did with the RP mini or just give them a pass, because Anbernic always gets a pass.

[dreamy narwhal]

we'll have to see how many times anbernic doubles down

[plain hollow]

They should have just released it with the fucking screen as is lmao

What the hell

[signal axle]

It scales correctly and it's $60-70. People will not care as much

[tame aspen]

Probably not cuz most anbernic customers aren’t as delusional as retroid ones

[tame aspen]

Next gen 35XX gonna go hard

[whole hawk]

I’m still even now a little pissed about the RP Mini, but I’ll admit it is funny to see Anbernic getting that pass in real time.

[inland basin]

wait complaining about a falsely advertized product is delusional now or am I missing something?

[timid token]

That's his comparison from a raw GBA image from an emulator and the 34XXSP

[signal axle]

Shader?

[tame aspen]

Blowing it out of proportion is

[stray torrent]

Kinda funny how I completely discarded the idea that the bezel was hiding a screen, I thought Anbernic would have learned from the RP Mini fiasco

[whole hawk]

Like holy shit, I honestly completely get how @languid grove felt when it happened with the Retroid Pocket Mini.

After spending so much time getting annoyed with people pretending that Anbernic can do no wrong and that “they would never lie like that”, it honestly feels so freaking vindicating for people to actually call it out.

Now hopefully I won’t immediately end up getting pissed off again from Anbernic actually getting that pass and people letting it slide after rightfully giving Retroid shit for it.

[signal axle]

_>?

[tame aspen]

That’s a lotta words

Anyway

[plain hollow]

Ngl I really hope there's an update to make the screen use its true resolution
Them lying about the screen size and aspect ratio is annoying, but it's still a really good screen for the price point

[tame aspen]

Who else is hyped to get their 34xxSP

[stray torrent]

If a bigger screen physically fits in the device, give us the entire flipping screen, not a hard concept

[inland basin]

fair enough, I guess the word "riot" was a reference to bad actors taking it way too far, but I guess requesting a full refund is reasonable if a product is essentially sold on lies

[signal axle]

What cfw are you gonna use

Or hoping to use

[tame aspen]

MuOS prolly

[signal axle]

Im leaning MinUi right now

[tame aspen]

Totally reasonable

[timid token]

I don't think so? Something to do with the way the firmware is handling the framebuffer?

[whole hawk]

I’ve been calling out Anbernic for being shit, even when I also fully agree that the RP Mini situation was bullshit since it was actual false advertising.
And now Anbernic is also doing exactly that, even though people were literally point blank telling me “yeah, they can be not great, but what Retroid did is something unforgivably awful and Anbernic has never done something as bad as that”.

[tame aspen]

TLDR: RNS hates anbernic

[calm raft]

This is Max Zhou reply: "If he removes the fully laminated glass cover in front of the screen and looks at the actual screen, they'll see that it's the same size as the 34xx with a 3:2 aspect ratio - a custom 720x480 screen."

[signal axle]

Unserious af hahaha

[plain hollow]

Someone said it in the main channel that apparently the battery size is also a lie

3000mAh instead of 3300mAh

[tame aspen]

That’s the Max Zhou I know and love

[signal axle]

retroid David has a house worth a million. Max zhou has a million houses

[tame aspen]

[dreamy narwhal]

BS battery sizes are unfortunately par for the course im not going to cry over 300mah tbh so long as they dont pull stupid stuff like 2x the actual capacity like you see with some 18650/BL5-C etc

[whole hawk]

If that is true, then I wonder how long it’ll be before people also let that slide?

[tepid rose]

You see that guy max Zhou he is badman 😭😂😂😂😂😂

[tame aspen]

Max zhou don’t give a fuck lol

[calm raft]

Maybe it's really custom panel, someone go ask The Phawx to rip apart the black bezel to see what's really inside

[whole hawk]

TLDR: The former 406V sniffer “shockingly” is an hypocritical Anbernic apologist.

[tepid rose]

That's why Max can do anything without worrying too much as long it's bring money to them

[plain hollow]

The Phawx's hair looks very weird to me

Did he go to Turkey or something

[signal axle]

??

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/refs-referee-football-gif-18544668

REF

[tame aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

Max rn

Even more smoke up our assholes

[calm raft]

The forehead area is for the driver and wiring, according to Max

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-vince-mc-mahon-entrance-entry-strut-gif-4685176

[copper plinth]

Even after watching Phawx video it still doesn't make sense to me how we're seeing such perfect integer scaling on a screen of that supposed resolution.

I'm pretty sensitive (or at least I thought I was?) to scaling and my RG34XX display looks crisp as hell with even pixels...

Also wouldn't 6 pixels trim on each side be easy to test/confirm on some games?

[tame aspen]

The wizards at anbernic are just that good

[copper plinth]

Maybe I missed it but I was hoping he would show us an example of the trim

[plain hollow]

In any case, even disregarding the fact that RP Mini is much more expensive than the 34SP. 34SP's screen actually does what it's supposed to do and is in fact a much higher quality panel than expected.

Main caveat is the 5head

[tepid rose]

It's crazy that anbernic can do it yet it's actually does what it's supposed to do than retroid with rp mini

[copper plinth]

I agree with you. If they can pull it off and nobody notices until we take the device apart, then they achieved what they wanted.

RP Mini, people noticed months before someone opened up the device

[signal axle]

^^

[earnest pecan]

yeah as long as it doesnt fuck up crt shaders like on the rp mini its not a huge deal?

[whole hawk]

Without integer scaling it’s around 5.3x, and from what I can tell, they supposedly aren’t even doing that because it’s instead a 1.87x with some of the external pixels being over scanned.

[tepid rose]

Oh Don't worry this is going to make them some moneyyyyyyy

[stray torrent]

I'm dumb, does this mean extra screen is cut off or the game is cut off

[silent spear]

Wait, so if anbernic pulled a retroid.. what screen resolution is the screen truly?

[young dragon]

Even more importantly, what's the framebuffwr

[tame aspen]

1280x960

[copper plinth]

That's what I'm confused about, how does an uneven 1.87x look this good? Could be the screen's high ppi doing the heavy lifting. But still then I'd love to see an example of the overscan's 12 pixels missing in a game with some easy background

[sage raptor]

So you can’t remove the letterbox on the non-GBA consoles?

[silent spear]

is that really true???

[tepid rose]

1280×960 wow

[tame aspen]

Yup

[whole hawk]

It’s a 1280x960 screen, which is honestly doing double duty for me being pissed at anbernic for the same reason I was pissed at Retroid for the Mini screen.

They literally could’ve used the screen as-is, and they just decided not to.

[tame aspen]

Ironically the same resolution Retroid advertised with the RP mini

[timid token]

Interesting...

[silent spear]

LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE MISSING OUT ON

[signal axle]

What if the screen was used as is because it was calibrated for the original 34xx? And so they have left overs of the forced res screen and decided to make the SP

[whole hawk]

You don’t have to tell me.

[copper plinth]

no the screen is 3.5inch according to phawx

[silent spear]

like are they actually kidding me

they almost made my dream handheld and tge FUCK UP THIS BAD??

[tame aspen]

Next gen 35XX devices gonna go hard

[silent spear]

that's impossible, on a 1280x960 screen that would be 3.2 inches.. unless.. unless they FUCKED up and it does NOT actually integer scale gba

[whole hawk]

Yeah, the lie was the fact that there are no 1280x960 oled screens. The only panels I was able to find that were that resolution were IPS screens of various sizes.

[silent spear]

how could they do this??

[whole hawk]

It’s not integer.

[copper plinth]

I mean that's what I'm confused about and trying to understand in this chat lol.

But you can watch his video, it's timestamped so easy to find the screen conversation part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e528oYFmsYI

[tame aspen]

It’s a 1.78 over scale

[whole hawk]

In the video Phawx directly shows that it’s a 1.87x scaling with some of the pixels being overscanned.

[plain hollow]

Idrk what overscanning means

[tame aspen]

Yet ends up being integer

[silent spear]

anbernic is so nasty for doing this

[tame aspen]

Cutting off pixels

[whole hawk]

He literally showed it’s not.

[tame aspen]

Okay buddy

[plain hollow]

So it's not truly integer scaled, but in practice it basically is

[tame aspen]

Yup

[vital minnow]

Wait huh? We were robbed

[tame aspen]

An overscale

[copper plinth]

I still don't understand how a non-integer looks this good on a screen of that resolution. It makes no sense to me

[plain hollow]

So how does this affect other systems then?

[silent spear]

why anbernic, why oh why oh why

[plain hollow]

Are they gonna look weird, letterboxing aside?

[tame aspen]

Nope

[vital minnow]

Where is my 960p clamshell amberlick

[calm raft]

Let's not jump to any conclusions just yet. Wait until tomorrow when Max Zhou will open the panel and present the evidence. This is Max Zhou reply: "Tomorrow I'll disassemble the screen, pry it open, and film a video to debunk the rumors."

[silent spear]

can we just make anbernic do what retroid did and release a corrected version?

[tame aspen]

Yes plz

[whole hawk]

Pretty much, except for, you know, the fact that we went nuts over this when it was a more expensive handheld, but the second it’s happening with a budget handheld “it’s fine”.

Even when one of the first things people were constantly replying back to me with whenever I said “what Retroid did is shit, but let’s not pretend Anbernic is somehow pure good” was point blank “yeah, but they never lied in advertising about their screens”.

[vital minnow]

Yes, and use an a527 🤑

[tame aspen]

RP mini issue is the fact they fucked up the scaling, and anbernic did not

[young dragon]

EVEN IF IT'S A FREE HANDHELD WE CAN'T CONDONE THIS

[tame aspen]

The 34xx actually does what it’s advertised to do

[whole hawk]

I would hope so, but unfortunately Anbernic cares way less about looking good to the community than Retroid.

[silent spear]

Are they actually advertising it as a 1280x853 screen?

[vital minnow]

This does confirm they have a 960p screen though which is massive

[whole hawk]

Please explain how it is not fucked up in a way that doesn’t point blank sound like the same bullshit people were using regarding the RP Mini’s scaling issues “not being noticeable”.

[vital minnow]

A win is a win

[young dragon]

In fact even if each handheld is given away for free AND with a million US dollars attached, we are still entitled to the truth

[plain hollow]

Honestly, my main problem is the lie about the battery size lol
It doesn't even bother me that much but why?

[tame aspen]

I’m not going to engage in further debate cuz you can’t see past your massive hate boner lol

[whole hawk]

Like, I was literally one of the people who didn’t notice the issue and I still was one of the first people calling out that Retroid trying to not give refunds for that was bullshit.

[muted vessel]

I agree that both are shit but also it is perfectly reasonable to hold devices to a higher standard the more expensive they are.

[young dragon]

In fact

[muted vessel]

but also this is still a better screen than the rp mini which is why they got away with it for a while (because it's supersampled not downsampled)

[tame aspen]

A $60 device that actually scales correctly vs a $200 device that doesn’t

[young dragon]

I think I just want to know whether the R36S displays were hiding something

[tame aspen]

Sounds reasonable to me

[tame aspen]

R36S probably has some 1440p screen in secret

[muted vessel]

I want to know if I can run my 34xx at the actual panel res even though it wouldn't integer scale GBA anymore

[tepid rose]

Can we check if it will get crt shader issue 👀

[muted vessel]

(I mean it doesn't really right now either)

[young dragon]

Seriously though, several variants do have higher than usual refresh rates

[calm raft]

Max Zhou: if it's a physically masked screen, then it wouldn't be 720x480 resolution. The RP mini's physical mask screen causes incorrect resolution; it fabricates 80 pixels, so its shaders have problems

[whole hawk]

The thing that makes me pissed is literally just the hypocrisy itself.

And of course the fact that I’ve had issues with almost every single anbernic device I’ve ever owned (so far the 40XX V is the only thing I’ve ever gotten from them that was legit near perfect in quality).

[muted vessel]

but yeah something like the MMv4 firmware update that stopped it from interpolating 480p to the 540p screen and let us actually use the 540p would be nice (even if it's still 3:2 cropped)

[silent spear]

why are they advertising it as 720x480 if the area of screen shown is actually 1280x854?

[tame aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-11341170073272671015

[stark heath]

3d printed community "no forehead" mod when (if drivers could somehow make use of full panel) 😆

[muted vessel]

can you name one person who actually thinks its fine for anbernic to lie about screen res but not retroid, or are you seeing one person say retroid should give refunds and another entirely different person say it's fine as long as the 34xx still looks good and then treating multiple people as one monolithic entity for you to interact with via the computer

[signal axle]

Good morning Stubbs

[stark heath]

Good morning Smmuny

[tepid rose]

You think anbernic is going to say sorry and hold your hands say we will do v2 clamshell

[signal axle]

You were 4 screws away from the tear down yesterday

[tame aspen]

Lol

[vital minnow]

I want that v2 clamshell though tbh

[whole hawk]

…Well, as an example we literally have Sniffer doing exactly that even now.

[stark heath]

The answers are ALWAYS in the fivehead, michael

[tame aspen]

Where

[young dragon]

Do note that Maxzhou is a well known boisterous boaster. And he rarely actually demonstrates anything he says he would.

[silent spear]

by the way, is this also an issue with the og 34xx?

[plain hollow]

I don't think so?

[vital minnow]

So I think atp any time we see a handheld with goofy looking bezels we should do a teardown

[young dragon]

Could be

[stark heath]

Yeah both are 4:3 panels

[muted vessel]

russ said it was and I think the phawx mentioned it in his vid

[tepid rose]

Let me say this if it have crt Shader issue and stuff then boom we will talk about it

[tame aspen]

It’s perfectly valid to be angry that anbernic lied about the true resolution

What I’m saying is: at least anbernic didn’t fuck up the scaling

[young dragon]

Again, even if the handhelds are given away for free, we are still entitled to the truth

[tame aspen]

This is true

[muted vessel]

I'll say the same thing I did about retroid - this is more than enough grounds to demand a refund and return at their expense for return shipping if it winds up being true and you want one

[tepid rose]

Stubbs does rg34xxsp have any problems when it comes to crt shaders in general

[stark heath]

I'd be upset if the pixels were unbalanced like thr rp mini, it would be nice to have more screen real estate instead of fivehead though

[stark heath]

No

[muted vessel]

and if they don't make you whole your credit card provider is the next level of escalation

I can't say I've tried crt shaders on my 34xx, I literally only use it for GBA lol

[tepid rose]

There we go

[silent spear]

they didn't? tell me about it, cause on a 3.5 inch 1280x960 panel 3.4 inches integer scaled is impossible

[tepid rose]

That all I need

[muted vessel]

(and 480p makes all crt shaders look like garbage imo regardless of other stuff going on, you really need like 1080 minimum)

[young dragon]

"Beggars can't be choosers"
Except they are the most oppressed victims of a systemic injustice, so if anything they SHOULD be choosers, more deservedly so than those who "choose" all the time

[stark heath]

I spoke to russ earlier and he also confirmed there isn't an actual issue here other than lost screen real estate, and of course Anbernic not being up front. Still seems like a silly design choice. 😆

I know someone will get the itch to uncover the full screen now.

[tepid rose]

Anbernic actually can get away with this yep money maker

[silent spear]

But 3.5 inches integer scaled to 720x480 would be 3.2 inches. So they DID ruin the scaling.

[tame aspen]

Watch phawx’s video I’m mentally exhausted

[stark heath]

You know Anbernic wont be mortgaging houses to give us a v2

They will move on yo next h700

[tepid rose]

Lmaoooo

[muted vessel]

tbf retroid didn't do that either

[stark heath]

*to

[vital minnow]

See in principle yes, but at the same time the amount I care about imperfections goes down depending on the price

[young dragon]

Yes, for the sake of practicality you are correct

[tepid rose]

Probably not but thier next device goes forward

[whole hawk]

Right here.

[vital minnow]

Please no, it's time to put the h700 to rest

[stark heath]

Russ talks about the situation in his video out at 11am PT

[tame aspen]

I’ve been playing a shit ton of gba on my 34xx, and I’m very sensitive to bad scaling. Of which I have seen any scaling issues

[whole hawk]

Obviously you’re not the only one doing it, and in actuality you were mostly pissed about the lying itself, so I’ll give props for that.

[tame aspen]

You must be seeing things I can’t lol

[muted vessel]

yeah I'm in the same boat, gba on this still looks good

[tepid rose]

To be real we know anbernic doesn't care or give a fly monkey overall they are making money and if it's making money

Causal would love this

[muted vessel]

kinda surprising they pulled this off so much better than retroid did, but granted they had extra pixels to work with while the rp mini screen was missing them so it's a very different result

either way I'd prefer if people just stopped butchering screens and just made handhelds based on panels as they exist

[whole hawk]

I mean I literally have the 34XX as my main Linux handheld because I think the scaling looks nice, but I also didn’t think the scaling looked bad on the Mini and was still pissed about its scaling issues directly because of it being scummy.

[muted vessel]

this has completely dashed by hopes for the supposedly incoming 4.7" 960p 4:3 screen lmao

[vital minnow]

Wish they would've used the pocket micro screen instead

[tepid rose]

I'm not surprised when it comes to anbernic screen giving how they made good decisions on rg406h/v screen

[vital minnow]

😬 now that you mention it

[muted vessel]

yeah the 406 screen is peak

[tepid rose]

Oooo yeah

[muted vessel]

if I could get the 406 screen on a pocketable stickless horizontal with front firing speakers I'd buy that and be done with the entire handheld collection lmao

[whole hawk]

That’s honestly the bigger reason why I’m pissed at Anbernic getting a pass. The literal only reason Retroid actually did that is because of people being pissed and demanding it.

[muted vessel]

literally no one demanded retroid use a fake panel lol

or anbernic

[tepid rose]

But also it's community and Retroid have discord that it's active

[whole hawk]

No, we demanded that they fix it by using the real panel.

[tame aspen]

Nobody is giving them a pass that I can see

[muted vessel]

yeah and it took months and months of retroid gaslighting people to get to that fever pitch and them finally caving

this is like 3 hours in to the current scandal lol

[tame aspen]

Anbernic fix this like now

[signal axle]

I'm a Fanbernic

[tame aspen]

Make a new device right the instant

[tepid rose]

But with anbernic they don't care at all in fact they will move on

[muted vessel]

I like the idea of anbernic sending me a replacement front shell for my 34xx that exposes the entire screen

[whole hawk]

Talking to someone who had the RG Cube.

[vital minnow]

Move on to the rg slide 🤑

[tame aspen]

I’d let max zhou be my sugar daddy

[whole hawk]

I’m not basing my current argument about “anbernic not fixing this unless people complain enough” on a freaking 3-hour-old reveal.

[muted vessel]

I love that in China cigarettes actually do make you look cool as hell

in the west it's definitely the opposite

[silent spear]

Watched it, still not integer scaling is what I'm getting

[tame aspen]

Max Zhou seems like he’d be a fun guy to go get hammered with

[muted vessel]

its definitely interpolating, just seems to be doing it rather cleanly

not sure if that's something anbernic is doing to interpolate more cleanly or just the fact that extra pixels look a lot better than missing pixels with naive interpolation

[silent spear]

watch it have quote on quote bezels on the top

[tame aspen]

Yeah like I said before I’m very very sensitive to bad scaling in gba games, whatever black magic anbernic did works really damn well

[silent spear]

so they weren't doing it aswell as on the rp mini and that's why they were caught?

[muted vessel]

running a 1280x854 display at 720x480 is a lot cleaner than running a 1240x930 display at 1280x960 whether there's 'black magic' involved or not

[tame aspen]

Well RP mini issue was it was trying to display more horizontal pixels than it actually had

[whole hawk]

The RP Mini was them literally just projecting 1280x960 video to a 1240x930 screen.

[muted vessel]

like running your 1080p computer monitor at 720p rather than feeding a 720p monitor a 1080p signal that is getting crushed down

[silent spear]

oh yeah, that will definitely look a lot worse than just interpolating

[whole hawk]

This looks to be them upscaling the 720x480 image by 1.87x and then cutting off a few rows of pixels in the overscan.

[tame aspen]

Whatever they did works really damn well

[silent spear]

I'll still get my pitchforks, not integer scaling, screen cut off and we are literally getting 254 ppi instead of the glorious 457 ppi it COULD be

[tame aspen]

457 ppi is nutty

[whole hawk]

Well, actually maybe 1.78x to maybe 1.8x.

1.87x results in 1346.4x897.6, which would result in them overscanning a lot more pixels to fit that 1280 horizontal pixel array.

[tame aspen]

I’d ditch my brick for a 35XX with this screen

[tame aspen]

1.78 not 1.87

[whole hawk]

Yeah, that makes more sense then.

[muted vessel]

I wouldn't assume the panel can actually run at the full res at a refresh rate we'd like

the stuff phawx unearthed suggests it runs at 75hz with the full res

so no clue whether you could make a pixel clock arrangement that gets you 60hz stable on it

[silent spear]

a switch in custom firmware could be pretty darn awesome, 60fps for regular games and 75fps for wonderswan content

[stray torrent]

so tldr not integer scaled

[muted vessel]

honestly I'm hoping we get VRR in a retro handheld some day, mostly for MS DOS

[vital minnow]

The tone35 will have a true integer scale for gba 🐈

[muted vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-gif-19968647

[tame aspen]

You know what has perfect scaling for gba

[muted vessel]

magicX becoming the peak of this hobby would be very funny given how they started

[tame aspen]

A gba

[signal axle]

Magicx is just rumor mill now

[tame aspen]

Go play on real hardware you ungrateful turds

[vital minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-you-know-who-else-my-mom-regular-show-funny-gif-9101122073397073314

[stray torrent]

Me with my 50 year old eyes at age 22

[whole hawk]

Yeah, that’s what I’m annoyed about.

When I’m personally one of the people who didn’t notice the RP Mini’s screen issues but still got pissed about the fact they lied, I’m gonna be even more pissed about Anbernic lying (after all the bullshit I already dealt with from them, still pissed about the 405M), even if I didn’t notice it in the 34XX.

[slender bone]

Ignorance is bliss

[frail dagger]

Can someone explain to me how the quarter inch bezel is hiding half of the overall vertical pixels?

[stray torrent]

Not when they're selling a device based on false advertising 💀😭

[slender bone]

By cutting electricity on them

[muted vessel]

its not

[tepid rose]

But the problem is this device would make money for them this is like LeBron dominant East 2010 to 2018

[muted vessel]

it's only hiding like 106 of them

the visible screen area is more than 480 pixels tall

[whole hawk]

I mean, if it’s already running at 60hz now, it’ll also be running at 60hz if we used the full screen resolution, we don’t have to also get rid of whatever change they made to have the native 75hz output as 60hz.

[slender bone]

Will pitchforks work on anbernic?

[stray torrent]

Flaming pitchforks? Or regular

[muted vessel]

that's not how that works

[whole hawk]

It’s only cutting off 106 pixels since they’re upscaling the image by 1.78x that of 720x480.

[slender bone]

Anything that can end them, credibility wise

[muted vessel]

pixel clocks require you to get the timing right between refresh and pixel count

[stray torrent]

Wait they cut off pixels AND upscaled the image? Good lord

What a disaster

[tame aspen]

Flashback to my crt monitors that could only do 85 hz at lower resolutions

[muted vessel]

yeah, something like that

[slender bone]

Is it software or custom lcd driver like rp mini

[muted vessel]

I would say it's way too early to say anything definitive

[tame aspen]

Wait for max zhous response

[slender bone]

If it's software, i think cfw would have unleashed rg34xx with full 4:3 by now though

[tame aspen]

Max Zhou’s response: Nuh uh lol

[slender bone]

Bitch please, this is our business strategy. Buy our next handheld

[muted vessel]

I mean you'd have to mod the front glass/bezel too in hardware lol

[tame aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[muted vessel]

but if CFW can run it at 1280x854 I'm happy lol

[silent spear]

yeah same, in that case I might consider it

[signal axle]

Basically a SUPER BRICK SP

😱

[stray torrent]

This remonds me of the hotel hell episode where gordon ramsay pays for a $50 peanut butter chocolate cake and they only serve him half of it

[muted vessel]

just give me the ability to choose how it's interpolated instead of forcing me to scale to 480 and then scale again for non-gba systems

this is basically the mmv4 all over again, hopefully it can get the mmv4 firmware resolution

[whole hawk]

Except that’s interlacing, which renders the image in sections. Progressive scan renders the whole screen all at once (although it still “draws” the visible frame line by line onto the screen).

[slender bone]

Pity mipi is closed source.

Or else we could have datasheets

[silent spear]

yeah that was such a waste too, the miyoo mini v4 has such a good ppi

[slender bone]

Mini flip incoming problem

[silent spear]

so basically this whole situation is

retroid bezels+miyoo scaling=anbernic

[slender bone]

It's like playing switch on a 4k TV

[tepid rose]

Yes

[tepid rose]

Exactly or Steam deck

👀

Let me stop

[stray torrent]

Did they honestly think people wouldn't find out about this or did they think we wouldn't care

[tepid rose]

Both

[slender bone]

So phawx is wrong about it not having integer scaling?

Fuck him then

[stray torrent]

No it's literally not integer scaling

The resolution isn't a multiple of the gba resolution

[slender bone]

Unsubscribed to phawx

[silent spear]

but I do care a lot, they almost made the trimui brick and they handicapped their own work like that

[vital minnow]

Lmao damn

[slender bone]

Fu ck his wrong info

[silent spear]

they could have created a masterpiece

[signal axle]

Chill out

[tepid rose]

It's not fuck him but it's crazy that anbernic did that and still make it better than retroid with rp mini

[stray torrent]

Russ corroborated it

[amber mural]

Next month

[signal axle]

Put some respect on Phawx's name he's literally why we're having this convo

[slender bone]

Didn't anbernic cut off ties with russ.

[stray torrent]

I'm glad I didn't jump on the hype train lol

[signal axle]

No?

[tepid rose]

Nope

[slender bone]

Then where's his review

[stray torrent]

Russ is responsible for a large % of anbernic's sales, why tf would they cut ties

[silent spear]

*35xxsp v2 cause they removed the bezels

[amber mural]

Where it belongs with RP Mini V1

[vital minnow]

He's waiting for his unit

[stark heath]

Its out at 11am PT today 😆

[stray torrent]

He's working on it, but also probably needs to figure out the screen situation first

Oh it's coming out today?

[slender bone]

Even more so russ should fking do something about this and not be a pussy

[vital minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[tepid rose]

Erm not really

Yes russ is huge and super duh huge

[silent spear]

can you actually just chill down dude, you're being pretty extreme

[slender bone]

If he's not afraid of cutting ties. Be a fucking man and man up. This shit is just wrong

[tepid rose]

Calm down it's Wednesday it's just gaming bro

[stray torrent]

Bro chill we play old vidya games on chinese game boys

[tame aspen]

Damn

[tepid rose]

We are having a good time not a long time

[tame aspen]

Very unreasonable crashout

[sage raptor]

What exactly is the problem really? The device provides what’s advertised.

[slender bone]

Bro, you're forgetting we're giving them our hard earned cash. Fuck

[tame aspen]

That’s what I’m saying

[stray torrent]

there's a reason I never buy devices until at least 6 months after release

[tepid rose]

I mean yeah it's hard earned cash but I seen people buying miyoo flip v1 and v2

[silent spear]

interpolated 720x480, so they lied about the resolution of the display

[tame aspen]

TLDR anbernic lied about resolution yet it still works as advertised

[sage raptor]

I wish I was smart enough to be mad about this :(

[slender bone]

miyoo didn't pull off thisnkinda shit. They just had shit hinges

[silent spear]

they did do something similar on the miyoo mini v4

[tepid rose]

Both of them have shit hinges miyoo a30 had problems miyoo mini v4

[slender bone]

They didn't blatantly cover up a part of the screen with goddamn plastic

[compact tiger]

Miyoo Mini V4 didn't have a 640x480p display
They took a 750x560p display and scaled it down

And it was definitely screwy looking

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-laughing-gif-1577944435343588810

https://tenor.com/view/alexander-isak-blaugranas-alexander-isak-thumb-pointing-isak-thumb-pointing-alexander-isak-get-a-load-of-this-guy-gif-9697571139964598875

[vital minnow]

The hinge situation is even worse lol, literally makes your device nonfunctional

[silent spear]

I feel like from now on if a device has too much bezel we should always be suspicious of screen coverups, these companies are prome to lying to us about specs of their hardware

[tame aspen]

If it works as advertised who cares

[slender bone]

Its like buying a pizza and they cover 2 pieces with melted plastic coz fuck you that's why

[timber island]

Rule #1 @slender bone

Treat everyone with respect. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism, or malicious trolling will be tolerated. It goes without saying that there should be no political discussion, this is a handheld gaming server.

[sage raptor]

It’s not but lmao

[tepid rose]

Okay don't do that around here

[vital minnow]

Ehh

[plain hollow]

Why is this man always so fucking angry lmaooo

[tepid rose]

You are big man act your age

[silent spear]

it is not a native 720x480, which means they advertize it as perfect gba integer scaling when it is not

[tepid rose]

Moving mad

[stray torrent]

Not the pizza bezel 😭😭😭

[whole hawk]

Apparently all it needs is to be high res enough for people to not notice.

[compact tiger]

Just like the 34xx

[sage raptor]

I thought Phawz says it’s pretty much perfect

[tame aspen]

It is

[tepid rose]

Don't get comfortable trying to get rude to other people

[plain hollow]

This is never gonna end

[silent spear]

he does say that, but being close to perfect is not equal to actually being perfect

[tame aspen]

People need something to be mad about

[sage raptor]

Fair.

[compact tiger]

The only person allowed to be rude is me and that's specifically at Stubbs

[stray torrent]

In either case it's false advertising

[slender bone]

They can't keep getting away with it, jesse pinkman

[tepid rose]

Lmaoooooo not at stubbs 😂😂😭

[plain hollow]

Jesse Pinkman?

[compact tiger]

@ Stubbs specifically

[rain blade]

i fel like people don't fully understand the difference, but i'm not entirely sure why 🤔

[stray torrent]

To be fair they're definitely not getting away with it given the current reaction

[whole hawk]

They can if it’s cheap. Like always.

[signal axle]

The reaction is from people who had no intention of buying it

[whole hawk]

I literally have the thing pre-ordered, and I’m still conflicted on whether I want to cancel it or not.

[signal axle]

What's changed lmao

[tame aspen]

Lol

[signal axle]

It's functionally does exactly the same thing before and after you knew

[plain hollow]

Idk how some of you guys have the energy to be beefing about this for over an hour straight

[tepid rose]

Just like Murder scene

[plain hollow]

Jesus Christ

[signal axle]

You're letting your retroid experience carry over to this

It's two different things

[tame aspen]

It’s just his anbernic hate boner

[tepid rose]

👀

[tame aspen]

Unhealed anbernic trauma

[whole hawk]

The problem is literally because of the Retroid experience stacking with my previous Anbernic experience.

[stray torrent]

I almost got one but the big forehead threw me off, I wouldn't have considered it at all if I knew it was upscaled and non integer scaled

[vital minnow]

Cancel and wait for the tone35 👀

[tame aspen]

What is tone 35

[tepid rose]

You see me tho if it's does the job It's does the Job no funny business straight banger but Go New York Knicks

[stray torrent]

Literally the only reason I would buy a 34xx/34xxsp is for perfect integer scaling, not "close enough" interpolation

[signal axle]

Knicks

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/new-york-knicks-go-knicks-lets-go-knicks-gif-10959306324093806826

[vital minnow]

4x gba

[tame aspen]

Oh my

[tepid rose]

You vio 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[signal axle]

It's nearly vaporware. Don't get your hopes up. I've been been waiting for so long

[tame aspen]

Figured lol

[whole hawk]

Honestly, does it count as a hate boner if I keep buying the things from the company I have the most issues with regarding their devices, or does just end up being masochism instead due to me putting myself through those issues?

[vital minnow]

It's coming out fr this time

[signal axle]

I'll believe it when I see it !!

I've been a tone35 believer since it was first typed by sean's fingers in 2024. But it's been delayed for so long now

[plain hollow]

My hopium is running out 😔

[rain blade]

i covered every single bit of the rp mini issues and even i don't see this as a major problem lol

[dreamy narwhal]

I mean the thing with the miyoo v4 is that it wasnt supported by onion for a while after launch.
Stock firmware the 560p worked just fine (outside of RA submenu which the basic ones are a fixed 480p res)

[tepid rose]

I mean you are not wrong it's like @spare warren with his asus rog ally situation

[rain blade]

the real problem is how ugly the device ends up looking because of the nullified pixels, but end users still get actual 3x integer scaling on gba games and the entirety of the visable screen being utilized

[tame aspen]

Hey now that’s slander and I won’t stand for it

[stray torrent]

Upscaling is not visually the same as integer scaling

It's worse

[dawn dragon]

They're hiding some of the screen

Oh nvm news has already arrived

What's the new res

[sterile sable]

So the visible display is not 720x480?

[whole hawk]

Did you notice that on the original 34XX as well? If you did, then I’m sorry that people ignored you for the same reasons people ignored the RP Mini issue.

[tame aspen]

1280x960

[dawn dragon]

Is it?

[stray torrent]

It's 1280x960 downscaled to 720x480 with some pixels cut off

[whole hawk]

Nope, it’s a stretched display that’s upscaling the 720x480 resolution by 1.78x with any extra overscan pixels being cut off.

[dawn dragon]

What

1280 by 960

[tame aspen]

That the panels native res

[dawn dragon]

Omfg can we get something good for once

[dawn dragon]

Oh my lord

[tame aspen]

720x480 scaled up 1.78 times with some pixels cut off on the horizontal edges

[compact tiger]

Several People are Typing

[dawn dragon]

So it isn't integer scaling?

[vital minnow]

35xxsp v2 incoming

[whole hawk]

And yeah, that’s one of the reasons I’m annoyed. They could’ve used the proper screen, and instead they did this.

[stray torrent]

Nope

[whole hawk]

Nope.

[sterile sable]

Fucked

[dawn dragon]

Dogshit

Horrible news

But wait it's the 1280 by 960

🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[vital minnow]

Only 3.5 inch though

[whole hawk]

Ok, apparently Pope was right about people not giving Anbernic a pass, I was just jumping the gun too early.

[stray torrent]

19 by 84

[tame aspen]

It’s not about size it’s about how you use it

[dawn dragon]

No integer scaling is always my problem

I will never give them a pass to not integer scale

[dawn dragon]

Spectacular

I'm buying the clamshell

35xxsp v2 with sticks

[sterile sable]

Gd just release devices with the full screen lol

[whole hawk]

I just don’t like the fact they were advertising it as 720x480 when they could’ve just done the proper 1280x960 screen.

[vital minnow]

Yeah I'll buy 960p clamshell instantly

[dawn dragon]

It's better than the brick oh my

[sterile sable]

Yea same

[dawn dragon]

This is amazing news

[silent spear]

perfect size for a tiny clamshell

[dawn dragon]

We're so back

[whole hawk]

It’s the biggest issue I had with the RP Mini once we found out what screen it actually had.

[vital minnow]

Crazy how anbernic thought this would be better and sat on a 960p panel

[stray torrent]

I'm salivating at the thought of a slimmer 1280x960p 4:3 35xxsp with sticks and improved buttons

[dawn dragon]

Mmhmhmmhmhmh

Amazin

2x psp

[sterile sable]

Would need more power, but yea i would be down for that

[dawn dragon]

Pleaee don't give it a fucking h700

[stray torrent]

A527 oughtta do it

[sterile sable]

Get some bezels for gba and it'll be fine lmao

[silent spear]

Ikr? How did they think a 720x480p panel would be better than a 1280x960 one? What were they smoking?

[sterile sable]

Yea def more 4:3 enthusiasts than 3:2

[whole hawk]

Especially since the fact that it’s “accurate enough to not be noticeable” for multiple people outright means it would’ve looked just as good with the full screen.

[vital minnow]

And I'd take the crazy high ppi over fake integer scaling

[stray torrent]

Yeah the screen is already there, just use it 😭

[silent spear]

960p is so goated tbh, snes when integer scaled to 4:3 is the same crispness as genesis while filling up the whole screen

[stray torrent]

Yeah imagine how good the scaling could have been for other systems

[silent spear]

256 scaled 5 times = 1280
224 scaled 4 times = 896 meaning, it is pretty much 4:3 with perfect scaling

[dawn dragon]

Yes please

[dreamy narwhal]

if they made a device too good they wouldnt have anything to sell you next month

[dawn dragon]

Perfect EDC incoming

[dawn dragon]

Fuckery department

[dawn dragon]

Only 1440p integer scales the stretch

I'll never play snes till then

[stray torrent]

I'm convinced that's the actual strat at this point because wtf

[vital minnow]

Was this just free advertising for the 960p panel? Who knows

[dawn dragon]

Oh no it's confirmed the fuckery department is doing it

[dawn dragon]

I'm salivating

This is about to be amazing

[stray torrent]

It's literally more work to engineer a coverup bezel for the screen and figure out all the scaling fuckery

[whole hawk]

Especially to do so in a way that people don’t notice as much.

[vital minnow]

Literally just use the normal panel and add an a527, that's all they have to do.

[stray torrent]

Can we stage a protest at anbernic's headquarters 🤔

[vital minnow]

Where might that be

[dawn dragon]

Absolutely

And linux

[dreamy narwhal]

best I can do is orange man tarrifs on 480p (and below) screens

[stray torrent]

I'm so pumped for the a527 to start showing up in everything

[dawn dragon]

This has cleared my mind

The existence of this panel changes everything

The panel to save everything

[vital minnow]

Same, perfect for dual booting android and linux

[stray torrent]

It's a whitepill for sure that they can afford to sell that panel in devices costing $60 or less

[dawn dragon]

This changes everything

[dreamy narwhal]

IPS panels of all types are pretty cheap tbh

[dawn dragon]

Now get that h700 out stick in an a527 and put sticks

Portmaster support

[dreamy narwhal]

its more like they've all been screwing people with $2 640x480 panels for a long time

[dawn dragon]

Oh my that's going to be peak

[stray torrent]

Combine that with the A527 in devices launching this year for $80 and we're in business

[dawn dragon]

Will you buy day 1 or -1?

[vital minnow]

Seriously, perfect pocket device

[stray torrent]

90% of current sub $100 handhelds will become obsolete overnight

[serene oar]

I personally think this is not likely because I clearly prefer the “integer scaling” on 34XX than non-integer scaling on iPhone or Flip 2

[stray torrent]

More pixels for scaling = more versatile device

[stray torrent]

But also the 34xx quite literally isn't integer scaled

[silent spear]

would buy that no questions asked, that would be actually so peak

[dawn dragon]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1375155075525247037

[silent spear]

the absolute best tiny handheld to ever release

[serene oar]

That’s assuming the video is correct which I am not sure

[stray torrent]

I'm buying the powkiddy rgb50 the instant it comes out

[silent spear]

rgb50 also looks really good, these hypothetical devices would have a different use though

[stray torrent]

I'm just happy high res screens are finally getting cheap

[dawn dragon]

Eh

1620 by 1080p

[stray torrent]

Mainly I want to have minimal black bars for both 4:3 and 16:9 content

Integer scaling doesn't matter as much to me when there are that many pixels to work with

[silent spear]

that is literally amazing wdym?

[sterile sable]

I don't disagree but you need 1440p for that

[stray torrent]

I agree, once 1440p devices under $100 are a thing :)

Give it a few more years

[whole hawk]

The screen literally is 1280x960 pretending to be 720x480.

[stray torrent]

I guarantee in under 5 years we'll have perfect ps2 performance + 1440p under $100

[sterile sable]

I would love to see that, its only the pocket s that has one currently right?

And the analogue pocket

[silent spear]

under 10 years maybe

[spice sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

But to be fair, the pixels at least line up with the reported resolution, unlike the rp mini

[sterile sable]

I thought people were saying it wasn't?

[stray torrent]

Wait so it's not 1280x960?

[spice sandal]

Hmm? Hold up I only read the headline, lemme dig into it

[vital minnow]

It is iirc, it just doesn't have the same issues the rp mini has

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-see-what-we-have-here-peter-deligdisch-peter-draws-lets-take-a-look-at-what-weve-got-lets-examine-what-we-have-gif-3794201243085930474

[stray torrent]

The resolution defeats the selling point of the device

Which is perfect 3x integer scaling for gba

[vital minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-feel-gif-26944000

[tepid rose]

Lmaoo

[sterile sable]

I would have been ok with the full screen. Just throw some bezels on this

[tepid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-shut-up-mondter-kitchen-cooking-shut-it-down-gif-13442207

@compact tiger right now

[vital minnow]

1984

[tame aspen]

We need to rename this channel to the circus or something

[compact tiger]

It's in the forum rules lmfao

[tepid rose]

I love Ban ❤️

Just straight bangers

No funny business around

[vital minnow]

The ministry of truth strikes again

[compact tiger]

I'm just here to make sure rules are followed how they're supposed to be

If it's not breaking anything I don't care

[pearl flax]

you say "rule follow" the cats say 1984

[tepid rose]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[spice sandal]

While I'm digging into this, I can absolutely say that the pixel look fine to me, I'd definitely know if there was any interpolation, its the first thing I noticed in the RP Mini. Thy pixel be sharp AF.

Makes me think that they're not scaling, but just displaying to a certain portion of the display

[old arrow]

really hope this forces anbernic to release a v2 with the actual screen's panel. The 3:2 screen was my only complaint about this device

sacrificing every other system just to get perfect gba is not worth it imo

[pearl flax]

why the fuck have companies just been adding bezels

[tame aspen]

Dunno if you’ve seen his video but this is phawx’s theory

[pearl flax]

bobby did not ask for this

[stark heath]

They won't make a v2, but they might release a new model in the 35xx line that to us means v2

[pearl flax]

a v2 in our hearts

[tame aspen]

But yeah I agree the gba scaling looks way too clean

[stray torrent]

If they can't do a true 720x480p screen I would honestly prefer 480x320

I'd only be using it for gba anyway

[pearl flax]

they used to use those in the oga days but i think people wanted higher res

the iphone 4 screen makes more sense

[tame aspen]

Non integer scaling is very easy to see in stuff like ruby and sapphire with text

[pearl flax]

[stray torrent]

Does this mean the cube xx was the goat for gba all along

[tame aspen]

[stray torrent]

Awkward...

[tame aspen]

Original hardware is the goat

[pearl flax]

[stray torrent]

The screens haven't aged well

[pearl flax]

the rg351p was and has always been the goat for gba

[stray torrent]

Even the sp 101 screen leaves a lot to be desired

[tame aspen]

You haven’t aged well

[pearl flax]

oh @stray torrent don't you take it kindly

fight him

[stray torrent]

All my bones crack and I'm barely over 21 I'm gonna need a cane before I hit my 30s at this rate

Hair is gonna start falling out any day now

[upbeat pewter]

why is everyone doing this bullshit now

https://tenor.com/view/flex-tape-gif-10921536

[stray torrent]

Bezel Tape

[tame aspen]

I’m 24 and my back hurts before I even get out of bed

[pearl flax]

STOP ADDING BEZELS

NO MORE BEZELS

PLEASE

[stray torrent]

oldmanyellsatcloud.png

[dawn dragon]

Raaah super sp!!!!!!

[tame aspen]

Woe bezels be upon ye

[dawn dragon]

This is genuinely ridiculous tho

But very exciting for future rp mini clone

It's barely smaller

[upbeat pewter]

no shot. in 5 years we'll be lucky if shipping across the nuclear wasteland is under $100.

[dreamy narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-fall-stumble-clumsy-fall-over-gif-26543601

[stray torrent]

I'm just mad there are so many "can do up to gamecube and ps2 maybe sort kinda" devices for $130-170 and they all only run android

[dawn dragon]

Why wouldn't they

[stray torrent]

The A527 devices are finally going to put an end to that nonsense

[pearl flax]

no they aren't, because allwinner can't make a powerful soc for the life of them

[hearty yacht]

He says they’re upscaling 720x480 by a further non-integer ratio of ~1.78, no? And it has some left and right pixels lost to overscan. How did an article get written about how this isn’t the rp mini issue again? I don’t understand how it’s any different. Maybe less perceivable but it’s literally the same issue, no? Unless this all can be addressed with software in the end

[pearl flax]

[spice sandal]

hmmm just watched the video, so yeah he's done his research for sure. I'll need to dump the device tree

[tame aspen]

Godspeed gamma

[stray torrent]

Gamma just gotta say your pfp is legendary

[whole hawk]

It is, the trick is that a lot of people don’t notice it (the same way people didn’t notice it on the Mini, except some people did in fact notice it from the start), so it’s effectively “nonexistent”.

[pearl flax]

it's a magic trick

anbernic really said they can make these pixels disappear

🪄

[tepid rose]

Damn

[stray torrent]

If people are told a screen is a certain resolution, they'll doubt their own eyes if something looks slightly off

[silent spear]

Why was the rg35xxsp v2 thread closed? Wasn't the rp flip 2 also based on hopes and dreams at the start of the thread?

[spice sandal]

the rp mini was definitely noticeable because they were downscaling. no sharp pixels

[dawn dragon]

We haven't seen a Linux handheld with it yet

[whole hawk]

I’m probably gonna be fine with it now that I’ve had time to calm down from the sheer hypocrisy of the matter, but I’m still not going to dismiss the fact that it’s Anbernic outright taking a screen and stretching the image, so I’m not going to pretend that they didn’t outright lie about it.

[whole hawk]

Well yeah, that’s likely the exact reason why it was more noticeable than the 34XX.

[dawn dragon]

Hopes and dreams eh

[sterile sable]

Well the mini is a $200 device

People are gonna expect more. Also retroid has a better brand image than anbernic does

Not excusing it though, still shitty and fucked

[hearty yacht]

People are gonna expect to get the hard specs advertised to them

[whole hawk]

Yeah, and I’ve already made my point on the fact that I have little respect for the fact that people constantly ignore issues in budget devices solely because they’re budget.

[dawn dragon]

Of course I will

It's budget

[whole hawk]

Mainly since, when you look at Anbernic’s expensive stuff, you realize it’s the same exact quality control.

[sterile sable]

The shitty business practice is not defendable. Lower quality is

[dawn dragon]

I can excuse issues if I'm paying less and buying from a company that's an established casino

[whole hawk]

My issue is the fact that when most people ignore the issues, that just makes it more difficult for people who experience those issues to actually find solutions.

[dawn dragon]

We'll find a solution for this

Gamma or someone will work some magic

Esp since this is just a plastic cover

I need that 960p sticks

Please make a 35xxsp v2

[whole hawk]

And, of course, the fact that Anbernic now has directly lied twice to customers by this point, one of which being in direct advertising for 2 different handhelds.

[dawn dragon]

Whats the first time

[whole hawk]

The RG Cube, where they promised that the light bleed issues were solely for Domestic first batch, and then that it was just reviewer batches.

[dawn dragon]

Eh it's a casino

And a cheap one

[whole hawk]

And then they sent cherry-picked units to reviewers to pretend they did fix it, only to send the bad units to all consumers.

[whole hawk]

$170-$180 is not cheap.

[copper plinth]

Has anyone come up with a picture/screen comparison to prove the 6 pixel trim on each side due to the supposed overscan?

[spice sandal]

extracted the device tree from the 34xxsp

[dawn dragon]

The rest of the anbernic line is, and consistently has all sorts of issues

[whole hawk]

And again, that’s my exact issue with them. They’re a goddamn casino of quality for all their devices, both cheap and expensive, and their customer support being unironically worse than most others just makes it more difficult to get it fixed.

[whole hawk]

Except now there’s also deliberate lying about specs.

[vital minnow]

Thought police got to it

This is a joke btw

[silent spear]

Did u read 1984?

[vital minnow]

Yeah

[spice sandal]

Device tree doesn't have any further hints.
Phwax did some good research here, kudos to him!

[stray torrent]

RGB50 is launching with it

[blazing ruin]

omfg they could have just let me have it with full screen I would use it to replace my 35xxSP

jesus fuck these companies

[spice sandal]

anyway I'll leave it there, I personally don't notice anything, and usually I'm anal about these type of things

[dawn dragon]

Well ya that's everyone's issue