ONEXSUGAR

[vivid willow]

?? What’s that ?

[edgy sable]

Something MagicX will release 3 years from now

[twilit whale]

Literally peak dual screen handheld

Peak second to snapdragon peak

[inland falcon]

Is this you saying that the Onexsugar is peak

[edgy sable]

Sounds like it

[twilit whale]

Snapdragon peak would involve 1440p

[inland falcon]

It might

[twilit whale]

Not onexsugar

[inland falcon]

There's a reasonable possibility it could

[twilit whale]

Doesn't look like it

We have pictures

[edgy sable]

@inland falcon which one is the pone41?

[inland falcon]

Psp one 41

[edgy sable]

ah, ok, yeah, that's pretty cool

I liked the o2mini and it's vita vibes, but i feel like i'm done with candybar shaped things for a while. o2 portal just so good

[twilit whale]

What is that doing on retro catalog

Poor soul

Probably put down the SP too

[inland falcon]

Possible onexsugar delay

Qualcomm needs to get it together

[edgy sable]

[twilit whale]

Time for my goat to be concieved

[edgy sable]

https://www.backstage.com/casting/onexsugar-gaming-console-commercial-2959706/?role_id=5256896

Important leeks

[inland falcon]

😭

[inland falcon]

I thought it was going to be more specs or something lol

[red yacht]

Go apply for the job so hopefully you can be the first to touch the device

[inland falcon]

Too tall unfortunately

[edgy sable]

And I only do traditional ballroom

[quick cave]

Have to borrow my Grandmas wig and clothes , be right back

[topaz perch]

Oh man if they're shooting commercials in America the price is gonna be crazy 😄

[twilit whale]

Bennie lore

At least 5'8

[red yacht]

It's been reported that they've finished the hardware in May and are now working on optimizing the software

[inland falcon]

That's what I like to see

PEAK

[edgy sable]

Yoooo. I'm ready

Gonna be my last handheld purchase for the year most likely

[kindred anchor]

so the controls... flip up to the sides and the small screen flips to the back?

[inland falcon]

Yep, peak

[edgy sable]

I really am way too excited for this

All the alarm bells are like dont do it

But my addiction to weird stuff says buy

[kindred anchor]

this... no offense, this is looking like it's going to be a disaster

i hope it's actually really small for what it is because if it's Ayaneo Evo sized that'd be weird asf

no way the hinges are not gonna be a floppy mess

[inland falcon]

This isn't miyoo we're talking about lol

Onexplayer might not be the pinnacle of quality but they've made pretty wacky designs already

I dont think many of these other companies could pull off the G1

But if it does suck I'll eat my words

[edgy sable]

I mean this is a company that's done many hinged devices. If any of these companies has the chance of doing this right, it's probably them

The fact they let the hardware soak, and software for that matter, is at least a good sign

[quick cave]

I hope you guys are right for your sake but personally have zero faith OneX will make it worth the money it's going to cost . It's just too big a risk for such complicated engineering on a first time Android handheld . Hope I'm wrong but I personally have a beef/bias with them after they screwed up my IGG order delivery big time

[edgy sable]

Yeah. As far as how they handle business it's notoriously kinda shit

I was hoping we would have seen more efforts at ds before this dropped but outside the Ayaneo flip 1s which will likely cost 2x as much as this, there really hasn't been anything but random renders

[inland falcon]

This vexes me

Can't believe ayaneo finally saw the light

[edgy sable]

Yeah. But could be like a decade

[versed flare]

will this cost like

3000 dollars

[inland falcon]

Only if they were absolutely insane

[versed flare]

how much will this cost though

in speculation

[inland falcon]

Hopefully $500-700

But really we don't know

[inland falcon]

Welp

[inland falcon]

https://www.phonearena.com/news/qualcomm-snapdragon-chips-in-trouble-judge-refuses-to-dismiss-lawsuit_id170892

This might have something to do with it

[runic gorge]

I neeeeed this.

[topaz perch]

I just noticed this said DETACHABLE second screen. I'm not sure if I feel better or worse about that.

[inland falcon]

I'm assuming its just a translation error, videos seem to indicate it just folds out

[topaz perch]

Hopefully. Although having to worry about the screens on both sides of the device would have me carrying it in a felt sleeve 😂

[edgy sable]

To be fair I pouch it clip on case most of my stuff anyway

Only barbarians take premium devices with sticks and just throw them in their pocket

[topaz perch]

The Flip 2 is my first device with sticks, so I haven't encountered that problem yet. I mean I guess my Switch has sticks, but it was too big throw into a pocket anyways.

This gif always cracks me up.

[void glade]

Keep shoving it'll get in there eventually!

[edgy sable]

Loved this advertising

Like I def pocket my switch. Just requires an extra second to pull pocket out 😆

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Personally I find the slide to be the best solution. Flip devices are solid. But require some extra steps. That said you get to pick viewing angle

Plus you can pull out a slide and just use it like a smartphone if you want to just do touchscreen stuff without controls all over

Honestly why I'm kinda excited for this

Likewise leave the controls and small screen folded back and maybe you can just use touchscreen on the large screen?

[inland falcon]

Not really sure what's going on with the buttons but this looks sick

Looks like some pretty heavy duty magnets if I'm seeing it right

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Looks like it should be solid

Please hinge gods give them your strength

[radiant lion]

[slim mist]

Have they announced wen they expect to release this transformer device?

[edgy sable]

Nope. I don't think so

[slim mist]

It looks cool...wat is it going to be again? X86 arm or pi?

[edgy sable]

Arm. So def android

And yeah. It'd be nice to know pricing and date. Hopefully soon

Too much cool stuff releasing. Gonna eat all my budget. And I doubt this will be super cheap

[shell grove]

https://imgur.com/a/X7aWP0k
they're already running late going by this initial Qualcomm announcement saying preorders would start in May.. so maybe they'll start sometime this month? I'd be surprised if this actually starts shipping before this fall though tbh

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Id expect end of June at the earliest

Think we would have gotten more info/teasers if it was soon

[edgy sable]

Ugh. Might abandon ship. I want DS so bad. But this thing seems caught in limbo, and my switch 2 invite just popped up 😆

[edgy sable]

At this point I'll go with whatever OLED ds device drops first. Even the 1s 🤣

[inland falcon]

🫡

[edgy sable]

Don't do it

What a pain

Anything you need to also carry around. Attaches. Sticks out. It's just the worst

All I need is some damn pricing

[inland falcon]

It's $69 I think

[edgy sable]

Right now I'm watching the flip 1s, this and contemplating a switch 2. One will win my wallet

[edgy sable]

Yeah. The price is solid. But like. It's still something else you have to take care of. Plus it has questionable utility outside of specific situations. If I can only mirror screens on it outside of specific apps, yawn

[inland falcon]

True, personally I'm only really interested in 3ds emulation tbh. The passthrough charging and the fact it's actually level when it folds make it pretty appealing

[edgy sable]

I just want to be able to look up guides or put twitch/YouTube on while I game single. And get the double screens when I want it for ds

I had the duo for a while and used it as a real phone for multitasking. It was pretty nice

[inland falcon]

I just need onexplayer to hurry up lol

For now I'm just going to wait for reviews

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I mean honestly the price will decide it for me. Too stupid and it'll be an easy pass

[inland falcon]

Yeah, the flip 1s is also coming out soon and I bet with early bird pricing it's going to be a lot more viable

[edgy sable]

Yeah. It's still kind of dumbly priced compared to GPD win mini. But does have the DS

I will be getting one of them

Worst case id unload my GPD Win Max 2 and maybe my steam deck to cover the flip 1s

Still there's something to be said about how convenient android and arm is for these systems. Would be cool if they got DS functional

[inland falcon]

Just gotta hold out for the arm flip ds I suppose, I think that would be my endgame

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Hopefully Retroid/Ayn/Ayaneo makes something like that happen

OneXSugar is such a weird bastard child of that idea

I still love it tho

[spring granite]

Theres a pretty good chance that the arm flip aya is working on is a DS.

The dual screen varient sells beter and had higher ratings generally.

I will be absolutely ride or die on a android DS clamshell from any compamy that releases it first.

One x almost had my money for future handheld pc upgrades, but they made whatever this is.

[edgy sable]

Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Hmmm. Tempting as well

[inland falcon]

Damn they're kind of winning me over

Shipping doesn't start until August though lol

[topaz perch]

Idk I was liking this idea until I saw this cable.

Like I don't get implementing the plug into the clamp then just running a cable out of the other end. But I guess there is no ribbon cable to damage and it need to be adjustable to fit different devices.

[runic gorge]

I was thinking the Type-C cabe would be attached to the thing itself that you just insert and it all snaps into place.

Not sure how I feel about the cable.

The RP5, screen, case, and accessories still cost less than the ONEXSUGAR.

Assuming the ONEXSUGAR is going to be over $599.

But like it's been said, an August shipping. Which I guess is okay, because I can't order the RP5 right now anyway due to Tariffs.

[daring lance]

I have a feeling this thing could get hampered by bad software implementation

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/hamper-hamster-caption-esm-esm-caption-gif-993735140744737808

[edgy sable]

So fortnite tourney is 12th/13th so hopefully after that we'll get something more concrete

[runic gorge]

Ooh, yeah, especially since the winner gets the the ONEXSUGAR.

🤞

[edgy sable]

Let's gooo

[slim mist]

Up to wat consoles would this device be able to emulate?

[edgy sable]

Pretty much all. Besides maybe ps3

[slim mist]

Really?? A pi device can do that much?

[edgy sable]

Pi? It's a snapdragon G3 gen 2 elite or something

Nevermind, G3 gen 3

[versed flare]

gotta have to sell my liver if i want this

[edgy sable]

Maybe? I mean who knows. It's gotta be somewhat in line with other android pricing or it's not going anywhere

[slim mist]

Oh ok...that makes me interested then

[versed flare]

probably will cost like ayaneo price

pretty costly

[slim mist]

$600+ maybe??

[edgy sable]

6-700 would be my guess

[slim mist]

Too rich for my blood 🫤

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Less than most of the new x86 coming. But more than most other plastic devices for sure. Ayaneo would at least be more metal and glass

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Ayaneo flip with arm will probably be the first reasonable DS device. At least the base model anyway

[versed flare]

until retroid makes one woahh

[edgy sable]

They already did 😆

I doubt we'll see more than that from Retroid from a bit. The cost wouldn't really be aligned with their normal price points

Ayn maybe?

[slim mist]

I was just noticing that the clip covers up the vent holes on the back doesn't it??

[edgy sable]

I have to imagine they account for that somehow

[versed flare]

well like an official one but im still happy for that though

[edgy sable]

Yeah. We'll see. It just costs a lot to make a DS. 2 OLEDs, software/android tweaks to actually support it as a true dual screen (which their attached screen supposedly won't behave like).

[versed flare]

i wont min dif the bottom is ips though

[slim mist]

Well all the pics I've seen there is no hole for the back...and now that I think about it..the top of the clip might even cover the top hole vent as well

Mvm about the top of the clip...I was think about my odin 2 😅

[edgy sable]

I might. Depends how their QC is. Light bleed from the bottom can be very annoying. Especially right next to an oled

I'm hoping it doesn't ruin the Ayaneo

[versed flare]

ayaneo flip 1 ds has like 2 versions?

the android and the window?

[edgy sable]

Eventually. AMD is imminent. Arm probably won't be til years end or next year unfortunately. Id much rather take the arm

[inland falcon]

Sorry for N*TRRX but http://youtube.com/post/UgkxwHP0Tuk95a2cnc2ROG_nOsIQYSoyRP78

Attachable dpad?!

This really is the transformer handheld

[runic gorge]

I just saw this.

Hnnng.

[edgy sable]

Shiiiiit. Not sure how that's actually gonna feel. But it's a cool way to solve it

Making me think Nintendo could have come up with something similar but elegant

[runic gorge]

If only, but I see that the Joycon 2 already has reports of stick drift so that might be out of their reach.

[edgy sable]

Eh. Cheap hall sticks incoming

I also never had drift on any of my OGs. But maybe I'm just not aggressive enough with my moves

[runic gorge]

Yeah, I bought a cheap pair on AliExpress last year for my OLED Switch and they've been running like a dream.

I got drift on two pairs, and I only play Pokèmon.

The Nintendo Switch 2 is facing the return of the Joy-Con drift issue.

Multiple new Switch 2 owners report stick drift problems straight out of the box.

Hopefully just defects.

Waiting on the Switch 2 after the ONEXSUGAR so hopefully more info will be available about defects or if it's still a common thing.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. That's always possible. With how many have shipped

[twilit whale]

RAAAAAAAAH SUPER SP!!!!!!

[twilit whale]

By super sp

I might buy a switch 2

MKW is appealing

Stupid price but you take what you get

I gotta pay an extra 30 for a cart

[versed flare]

make an optimus prime colorway

[edgy sable]

https://youtu.be/uy3xCT4kBnI?si=QiPPTlpzeUXW-YUm

I'm 100% getting black over white tho

Also dpad attachment is interesting, but as a joycon user with little complaints I may not care anyway

I don't play a lot of fighters

[runic gorge]

Not a big fan of that dpad after all, after seeing it in action.

I'll stick with the normal buttons.

[primal bloom]

I just realized this doesn’t seem to actually play with the screens folded at an angle so only in slab mode like a 2ds. Still a cool product, just didn’t realize

[edgy sable]

? Looks like the small screen is still on when it's being folded back. Or do you mean won't play with controls and small screen only?

Ohhhhh. You mean top screen folded forward

Yeah. In the original promos it was basically defying physics. So you're locked into a slab

[primal bloom]

Exactly

[versed flare]

why are the buttons at the bottom .-.

looks so cool though

[edgy sable]

Just a side effect of having the controls flip around. Given an extra 6 months to bake the design they might have come up with something better

[primal bloom]

Interesting with the small screen on top maybe for wikis and walkthroughs

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Watching content, etc

[runic gorge]

Hoping to pick this up in the future. I caved and got the RP5 with the dual screen attachment.

I've been wanting to play some games but the waiting has been rough.

The promised announcements for during the tournament just to have that delayed too, eh.

Tired of waiting.

😩

[inland falcon]

But you're going to be waiting till August for the dual screen to ship

[runic gorge]

Oh I wanted to start Pokèmon from the start, so I'll be doing Red, Gold and Ruby first.

Don't need it for that just yet.

Who knows, I'll probably still get it if it's not too expensive.

Use the RP5 for everything else and the Sugar for a Pokèmon machine.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Price will make or break this. The complete lack of any arm based ds device imminent announcements still has me interested at least

Flip 1s arm probably 6 months off at the earliest

[runic gorge]

Flip 1s arm?

Also, my biggest concern with the RP5 and dual screen attachment.. I feel like this is going to be a Nintendo situation with the circle pad pro. Buy that just for a new 3DS with the second "stick".

They'll just make an RP5 Pro or RP Flip 3 with a dual screen.

And I will cry.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Ayaneo said they're making an ARM version of the flip 1s, release date TBD

[edgy sable]

My biggest issue is it doesn't really behave like a second screen

You can't multitask with it. It just mirrors or something. Core android needs to be skinned or updated in some way to take full advantage. Supposedly

[runic gorge]

Shit, really?

I thought one of the Retroid people in the Discord said we could do anything on it.

welp.

[edgy sable]

We'll see. They may have updated and I might be operating on old news

[edgy sable]

Ah. Ok. In dev options it looks like you can "force desktop mode" and get an actual secondary. That's good

[runic gorge]

Ah, gotcha gotcha.

I'm still waiting for them to reply about editing my order.

MIght just cancel it and struggle with the rest and wait.

[edgy sable]

What did you need to change?

[runic gorge]

I went to buy three of their wall chargers, but only bought two so I wanted to include one in the order.

Also, I bought the wrong case. Usually their newest products are on the front page, but it was for the Flip 2. For some reason, the Dual Screen + Grip case was on the last page?

So with it being inbetween the RP5 stuff and the Classic, I thought that was it without reading.

But alas,

No idea why they did it that way, but yeah.

[edgy sable]

Doesn't help that all their case look like identical black blobs

[runic gorge]

Exactly.

[versed flare]

It looks like a jelly bean lol

[primal bloom]

https://youtu.be/zEthVa5nDeI?feature=shared

[edgy sable]

I mean if looks fun as shit. Just need price. Haha

[topaz perch]

I just can't wait to watch stubbs flip one of these around like a ballisong

[edgy sable]

Would be sick. Def #1 request

@remote moth ⬆️

[topaz perch]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-butterfly-gif-18150234

The new Celeste test on the podcast will be who can transform the onexsugar the fastest

[primal bloom]

I can’t imagine it being reasonable, but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[remote moth]

😂

I tried this at CES and now they won't respond to my emails

It is a nice fidget toy

[quick cave]

I would be scared dropping this because it seems like it would explode into hundreds of pieces with not much effort

[spring granite]

No matter how it lands a screen will break

[topaz perch]

https://tenor.com/view/storm-stormtrooper-star-wars-trooper-clone-gif-20123220

Falls apart like a lego

[inland falcon]

https://youtu.be/6nKriZwsGjM

For when family guy clips aren't enough

[inland falcon]

They showed off some more footage in their software update video

Wonder how stable this form would be

It seems pretty stable, the second screen should just snap into place with the magnets on bottom

[twilit whale]

What's wrong with the top screen

Is that light bleed

[inland falcon]

Think that's just a reflection

[twilit whale]

Not an issue on the bottom screen

[inland falcon]

Idk I think I screenshotted at a weird point, it looks pretty normal in the video

[edgy sable]

It just looks overexposed/harsh lighted as shit. The bottom screen is a black lock screen OLED. Should almost be dead black. Looks like a light grey

[twilit whale]

Top one looks so bad I don't like that

[edgy sable]

Bad in what sense?

If the lighting horrible you can't really judge either

[twilit whale]

I find it hard to believe that just lighting can mangle it that badly

[edgy sable]

It looks like the bottom screen is black and locked. The top screen is a different color and locked. Theyre both washed out because of the lighting

It's not like there both the same color and the panels are just that bad

[twilit whale]

There

[inland falcon]

[inland falcon]

This thing is going to be crazy

Also thick as hell

[edgy sable]

99% sure we'll end up getting it in Chinese as well

[fringe thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/ازاد-transformers-optimus-prime-trailer-toy-gif-14753318

[digital heath]

thats RG slide levels of thickness

[edgy sable]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfTCcMATO9Qa_7Hs36BFQMXe3EdGQjgzfMWIvw6okNgk_WMFA/viewform

Assuming they'll use it to drive their live stream when they announce

[thorn grove]

oh thank god they moved the left analog stick up

and face buttons up

oh wait nevermind, it's the same

[lyric pulsar]

I love that this thing is so crazy.

https://youtu.be/APA_hMPFslM

[versed flare]

price

[edgy sable]

$9000

[copper karma]

Worse

[quick cave]

That’s it ?

[primal bloom]

Really looking forward to hearing the price

Or maybe I’m scared to hear the price?

[granite dew]

https://tenor.com/view/thicc-king-andre-braugher-raymond-holt-brooklyn-nine-nine-thick-gif-16913349

[twilit whale]

price?

[topaz perch]

No announcement of price yet. Comparatively speaking the Ayaneo Pocket S2 has the same chip and is retailing or $619. for the 16gb-512gb version. If we can gleam anything from the RG Slide, there is a price increase for adding in these new mechanical functions. We have three folding mechanisms in this device. Coupled with an additional screen.

Realistically I can't see this thing being less than $1000.

I'm really interested to see how the controls are wired into the system. Is there gonna be ribbon cables going through the hinges, or will it use the magnets to pass through power? If that's the case you couldn't flare the controls out for more comfort. Also looking over the render video some of the buttons seem to be housed on the sides of the Top screen, which is probably where the mainboard and the battery are housed. But that means some orientations will cover what appears to be the sleep/power button and a volume wheel.

So in the compact mode, in which I would assume is how you would fold it up to put it away for travel, indicated by the travel cases. Then you would have to put the device to sleep before you folded it up.

Which mean if you just wanted to play in single screen mode. You would have to open it's "armpit" hit the power button then close it back to start gaming, and do that again when you were done playing.

Oh nvm, there is also a recessed power/sleep button and volume rocker in the hinge of the main section for compact mode.

The strange part is that it has to have inline shoulder buttons, but it has to have them on a flared out platform like stacked shoulder buttons to make them usable in both orientations.

[edgy sable]

Guy be swinging it

[topaz perch]

People are already complaining about the RG Slide being too top heavy. But in dual screen mode you are gonna have all the wait on the top and just be holding it by the controls and the bottom screen.

[topaz perch]

It's also the world's most expensive fidget 😄

[edgy sable]

Hopefully they distributed the weight to be closer to between the two screens

[primal bloom]

Lead weights in the controllers will fix that

[lyric pulsar]

Don't you worry about weight. An extra hinge is all it takes.

[pseudo grail]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-me-gif-20768105

some dude's gonna whip this thing out like a butterfly knife

[twilit whale]

Price?

[quaint prism]

The RG-Slide has a Custom Screen so that also drove up the price. Aya Neo is it's own entity and isn't producing the Handheld under a Company like OneXSugar is doing with this Handheld. I don't think Aya Neo is a good base for comparison.

[topaz perch]

Is it the perfect comparison? No. Ayaneo does tend to sell at a "premium" price for their devices. But so far it's the only other device with the same chip that has a price. Even if we could gleam that "Ayaneo tax" was say $100-200. Then we could see a slab device with this chipset at $400-500. That would be like if Retroid slapped this chip into the Pocket 6. Sure we could say that the Flip 2 was only $50ish more than the Pocket 5. for a single hinge. No extra screen, and no flipping controls. So if the ONEXSUGAR uses a pretty standard 6.01 main screen then that wouldn't jump price much. Even if the second screen is some extra stock screen from something, we're looking at minimum of $30-50 price increase. So bare minimum, say this device was being made by Retroid. It would be at base $400 for a slab, through in $50 per hinge, and $50 for the second screen. We're realistically looking at close to $600 in cost. And looking at ONEX history, they're prices have kinda matched Ayaneo's. Granted most of there efforts have been X86 devices, which while yes is a different beast, shows that comparing their X86 prices to Ayaneos, they are similar. And I think if they want to move a decent amount of them, it needs to be under $1000. But it would be a steal at $600. ONEX hasn't released a device in the $800 price range. So maybe, they could shoot for that since it is a Android device. But I don't see it coming in that cheap.

Maybe we could see a $800 device with a 15% early bird on their IGG like they did with other devices for $680. But I'm not sure on that. But we will see I could be way off on this.

If this device dropped at a similar price to the Pocket S2 I would be completely shocked.

[red yacht]

Oof..only 5600mAh battery, all that thickness wasted on transforming gimmick

[topaz perch]

I guess that makes sense. The main back area is carved out so the smaller screen can fold flush with the controllers.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. It's not like double the thickness when folded back. Too insane to try to do multiple battery packs too

It also already has bulk, I don't want it to be massively heavy as well

[runic gorge]

I hope we'll be able to buy replacement batteries in the future if needed.

[edgy sable]

That's probably a OneX thing. I've never owned one, so don't know how easy that is

[edgy sable]

We should be super thankful it's not on sugar cubes shoulders

[edgy sable]

DNA having a crash out 😆

[feral lotus]

total defeat to competition would do that to a guy

[edgy sable]

I mean like, someone was eventually gonna do it. Unless you went to a company and licensed your design

[steady vapor]

If I had one of these, I'd probably break it within a few days becaused I fidgeted with it too much. (Similar reason as to why I'm probably not gonna get one of those folding phones any time soon, heh)

[void panther]

This will be the next challenge, now there's signs of more life on the dualscreen front, the next target will be one with good battery life. While 5600mAh isn't huge, you'd expect it to deliver more battery life than that ayaneo since it was x86

[void panther]

Is that the guy who has done something similar himself while being an asshole?

[wheat tangle]

Seeing the recent videos made me realize another "clamshell/hinge downsides without the benefits" this thing has.

In dual screen mode you can't tilt the top screen forward due to how the hinge works.

I can't get over how over engineered this thing is only to negate all the positives of having a clamshell/hinged design 😅

[red yacht]

Yeah, they're pretty much just a 2DS. You might as well get a small tablet for a better dual screen gaming experience

[edgy sable]

Def over-engineered for sure. There's certain times where I'd just play it in candybar mode. It'll def fit my jack pocket better folded up as well

There are rarely times I'm playing s flip device where I don't fold it completely open anyway at this point. Tho maybe that's a side effect of years spent holding phones and tablets tho

Whether or not the DS vs single screen will be useful outside that is kinda dependent on how shit their software is. Split screen on android is only kind of ok. But yeah, inside DS emulators there's not much difference

[topaz perch]

I could definitely see myself rocking it in candy bar mode out and about. I would feel really self-conscious about fully transforming it out on a bus or something. At home I would rock the dual screen setup while lounging around. I do that now, but I have my phone or iPad on my Mechanism gaming pillow on my lap and just playing whatever handheld I'm using.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I'm at the age where I'd take photos with an iPad and tell people to fuck off. Lol

[primal bloom]

Even with the weird layout?

[edgy sable]

It's def weird. May actually be a case where thicker body makes it more comfortable with the awkward setup

For dpad stuff it'd be fine tho. Just odd for stick games

[torpid torrent]

When does the campaign start.

[edgy sable]

[quaint prism]

Yeah I'm going to wait for the reviews. 😅

[quaint prism]

Too many people in this community think they can push their Gaming Tastes on everyone else in this community. 😂

Especially if they have a YouTube channel.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I mean don't get me wrong. It's weird as shit. But like the rg slide, I'm way more interested in new ways to play than simply the next candybar with specs bump

Like yeah. The flip 1s is way more practical. But I already know exactly what the experience will be like

More interested to see what people slap the RP DS on

[edgy sable]

https://youtu.be/Qp4A4zbkZoQ?si=nLjMrj3rgkAe3Srd

[unique surge]

How is it simultaneously so thick and so thin

[topaz perch]

The back looks so weird when it's in candy bar mode.

The material seems to be pretty fingerprint resistant, at least comparing it to the screen area.

From what the guy says in the video most of the device is about 22.5mm thick which is pretty close to the thickness of the Flip 2 and the RG Slide. Which isn't too bad. But the shoulder flares seem like they almost double that width.

So it's gonna be at least as wide as the Pocket 5 but as thick as the Flip 2, and thicker on the shoulders. But I guess that's a moot point because no one would be putting this thing in their pocket

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I thought the finish looks pretty good

[edgy sable]

I can fit switch 2 in my cargo shorts pocket

I mean the length sticks out

[wheat tangle]

I mean, if you detach the controllers and use both pockets... 🤔🤔🤔

It's a shame this doesn't use a laptop 2-in-1 style hinge so it can fold all the way forwards and back.

Would basically be a clamshell that can turn into a candybar.

[edgy sable]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Would have been cool. Not sure it would have worked with how they wanted the grips

I mean would have been like an RP flip with grips

Which isn't the worst thing

[edgy sable]

Eventually someone will drop an RP flip 2 device with android and second screen and it'll be the Nintendo DS emulator most people want

[wheat tangle]

It'll probably be Retroid themselves. Gotta drip feed releases to get people double dipping.
I feel like it was 100% intentional to release the Flip 2 before announcing the dual screen add-on to get people to double dip on an RP5 if they haven't already.

[edgy sable]

https://youtu.be/jQFKuiKA4ng?si=hhC_NGAjo46b0UMs

[topaz perch]

LOL but that's Fantasy Life I, not My time at Portia. But this would have to be Switch Emulation then right?

[quick cave]

What do you expect from the Nitrix they just steal other people’s videos and posts them , I refuse to give this clown any views

[edgy sable]

I hate posting him. But it's one of the few places posting new vids on a site I frequent about it

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Should do switch fine

Should basically do everything decently. Just limited by software and driver support. Not hardware

[kindred anchor]

this thing is absolutely fucking ridiculous

[edgy sable]

Yeah. It's pretty cool

[quaint prism]

To be fair he does make his Videos accessible to people like me that don't navigate through Chinese video streaming sites.

[quick cave]

But also unplayable most of the time when posted here and directs to YT to watch , I don't like giving them undeserved watches.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. It's def profit driven. Could just come in here and post links to stuff

At the bare min actually offer some commentary beyond AI scripted regurg

[quaint prism]

That's definitely fair.

[primal bloom]

Hopefully the price will be revealed

[edgy sable]

11 pm EST

Know what I'm watching tonight

[heavy shore]

I'm honestly more excited for their vertical handheld with a rotatable 8:7 screen than this one

they've been teasing it since 2024

[lyric pulsar]

How is that? How does it rotate and why?

[topaz perch]

https://youtu.be/kVZC7OXg9N0?si=PD6Ck2Hq1hJ_GYaG

The screen rotation is for like TATE stuff.

[unique surge]

I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it, but why an 8:7? That's barely different in either orientation. Why not a... 3:2?

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Seems... Unnecessary

My guess is they also went with OneX to actually get something made

But maybe if it does well they can convince them to make a rotating screen which barely makes a difference

[heavy shore]

makes a real difference when you want to play vertical games/NDS

[heavy shore]

Onex' founder likes 'innovating' FWIW lol

I do agree that a normal 1:1 screen would have been fine though

[heavy shore]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iJ6iYTEz9

[edgy sable]

Hall effect sticks

End of month for igg

Ships month after

July 22nd for igg

[buoyant pivot]

Hmm, are there really two silicone shells for both modes of operation (single screen/dual screen)?

This is what I'm talking about

[quick cave]

I actually like this more than the OneSugar , any idea if it’s actually releasing and actual hardware specs?

[topaz perch]

No idea on that one. I know they also had that cool N97 sliding handheld. But I don’t know if either if of them were ever able to be ordered.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Def an odd way to do it. I mean I guess if you primarily leave it one way or the other, whatever

[void panther]

Have they mentioned a price yet?

[runic gorge]

Not yet.

[edgy sable]

I assume it'll be a week before the 22nd

[plush vigil]

$649 is my guess

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Wouldnt shock me

[foggy crag]

what is the screen size and resolution of the top and and bottom screens?

[quick cave]

https://tenor.com/view/probably-about-that-size-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-seven-bucks-its-about-this-big-gif-25303171

[quick cave]

Main Display: 6.01-inch
Secondary Display: 3.92-inch
Don’t know res but the secondary display looks like the Retroid Pocket Classic size

[foggy crag]

thanks, was thinking about the ratio of the top to the bottom screens 's size when running NDS or 3DS, seems like it won't be anywhere close to the original hardware as well

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Secondary is the classic/DMG/mini screen

[edgy sable]

Yeah. OLED is limiting. Nothing really exists in those exact ratios

At least not readily available

At least with OLED black boarders are true black

[quaint prism]

That would sound about right to me.

@edgy sable OLED or AMOLED? Because I hate OLEDs. ☹️

[edgy sable]

The bottom is amoled. Not sure about the top

[edgy sable]

https://youtu.be/vqJWujl6N5s?si=0TPv93expJkzPuXk

[wheat tangle]

Well, now that expectations are set we're guaranteed to be disappointed

[torpid torrent]

It's android so $399 isn't impossible. I start the bidding at that.

[edgy sable]

Hahaha. True

That said, I think it might not be that bad

Prior to her posting that we were comparing it to the base model flip 1s. So I'm hopeful the EB undercuts it significantly

I thought doubt they'll be like "well it's $50 less than the base flip 1s"

But you never know

[twilit whale]

How do we know it's custom what if they just found that screen

[quick cave]

I guess Joey is getting a review unit .

[primal bloom]

Someone on YouTube comments said it doesn’t have touch, but that can’t possibly be right, right?

[edgy sable]

Haha. Yeah. I saw that. It's great

[edgy sable]

Sounds like crazy talk. Top is def a phone screen of some kind. Bottom is the same in the classic. So they'd have to actively disable it. The capacitive layer is there

Would be wild if they didn't

[edgy sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhWkM34Vcgg

[primal bloom]

Clearly using touch. I don’t know what the other guy was going on about

[clear trout]

What would be the point of building something like this, almost exclusively used to emulate NDS and 3DS if the bottom screen couldn't use touch?

[edgy sable]

Never know. Could have included some proprietary stylus 😆

[thorn grove]

Please include stylus + a slot to carry it in

[feral lotus]

I hope the peeps who buy this don't take it out in public

it's just too weird and flimsy looking

[edgy sable]

The original renders didn't fill me with confidence. But with the way people are whipping it around in these demo sessions I actually feel better about it now then before

The fact that the hinges are steel help too

If it was just sugar I'd be way more worried. But I feel like OneX has some chops

[runic gorge]

I'm still so confused about the white style.

Each clip switches the sticks between white and black.

I'm not a fan of using caps on my sticks, so I really hope the final product has white sticks.

[quaint prism]

They didn't, they contracted BOE to make a Custom 4:3 screen for them. There's no 120hz 4.7 inch 4:3 screens in the wild.

[twilit whale]

They're stupid

4:3 1440p is much preferred

[runic gorge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFnN2RK8E0

[plush vigil]

$649 my prediction

[primal bloom]

Early bird or msrp?

[topaz perch]

Playing like this will probably be really comfortable.

[edgy sable]

It is a cool idea

[ember flame]

I wonder the price ?

[edgy sable]

Yeah. We're still waiting. They said this week it'll be revealed. Now I'm just wondering if it'll be when the IGG drops 😆

Maybe they'll drip feed it on Wednesday or something

[thorn grove]

$700

[edgy sable]

There's just no way. Basically makes flip 1s DS an auto-buy

[quick cave]

The Flip 1DS actually makes more sense TBH

[obsidian lodge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kSGmw5O2oKw?si=XDRx6dt7Zpw1Brpv

[edgy sable]

It's more traditional for sure. I won't knock the OneXSugar until I hold one. It might just not be mine 😆

Really right now it's just price

Sub $500 and it's at least somewhat appealing. Above that and even the base x86 flip 1s just makes more sense. Would buy that. Sell it and buy the arm when it drops

We're also at least 6 months out from anyone having a flip 1s DS in hands who isn't a reviewer anyway. And by then it'll be on storefronts for close to EB prices. So doing the IGG probably isn't worth it regardless cuz Ayaneo

[inland falcon]

It would, unfortunately it's got x86 battery life

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I already know what my flip 1s experience would be like. I'd buy it. Justify the price because it's gonna be my "do everything" machine. Then realize I don't like having to do most things on it. And then cry because I have to plug it in every time I want to emulate sprite DS games 😆

Still might do it tho... Maybe this time...

[wheat tangle]

I mean, technically, it'd be the smallest portable multi-monitor computer setup.

[edgy sable]

Oh for sure. There's cool things about it. Until I realize I'm a grown ass adult and using an on screen keyboard and squinting at tiny screen desktops is not fun

[topaz perch]

It would be so nice to have an all in one solution that actually works well. I wont own a laptop that doesn't have a graphics card because everything I can do on a low end laptop I can do on my phone or tablet. Yet I don't take my laptop anywhere I dont have desk space to set it up and plug it all in. I could theoretically have my Ally X as my main PC and dock it at home but without an egpu I'd be getting rid of performance the laptop has, even though its an easier to transport desktop at this point.

[wheat tangle]

If I had money to throw away I'd absolutely grab a Flip 1S, some AR glasses, and maybe a foldable keyboard.

[edgy sable]

Will all be solved when we have stretchable screens

[wheat tangle]

In hindsight, I guess if I use AR glasses it doesn't actually matter what form factor it is.
So I guess my ideal is just a like, a box that can fit in a pocket, AR glasses, and a pair of joycon style controllers I can keep in each pocket.

"It'd be nice to discretely play with my hands in my pockets" I think to myself before realizing what that would look like to a spectator looking at me.

[inland falcon]

Like this? https://youtu.be/ha_7cZxqhhE

[heavy shore]

honestly iGPUs are getting powerful enough nowadays, like you can game decently well on a 780M

at least if you game casually

[wheat tangle]

Yeah, if you're not gaming at 4K you can basically max out most modern games on pretty midrange hardware.

If you're not really playing AAA then even moreso.

[wheat tangle]

Exactly like this, ahaha.

[plush vigil]

4000 yuan is leaked price on Chinese forums

[inland falcon]

That kind of lines up with the verge video

Said $600 and up

[heavy shore]

it costing almost as much as a flagship Chinese smartphone is wild

[inland falcon]

I mean it's got flagship specs and a very unique form factor, it makes sense

Still, I hope $600 is the retail price and not early bird

[topaz perch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/k72tLRb7ZYI?si=NBH_RLLlrbmJdkVp

[inland falcon]

Yeah that dpad attachment is a little goofy ngl

[edgy sable]

Dpad attachment is dumb. But Ive also used the switch for almost a decade without it

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMK9bRAsXbV/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

verge

A dual-screen gaming handheld that can transform into multiple setups? It’s the OneXSugar Sugar 1, a crowdfunded Android gadget like none we’ve ever seen. It has 6-inch and 4-inch OLED touchscreens, a Snapdragon G3 Gen 3 chip, an 8-core Kryo CPU, Hall effect joysticks and microswitches, a 21.5Wh battery, 16GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage —...

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[inland falcon]

Wait so it's actually called the Sugar 1 and not the onexsugar?

Can't wait for the Sugar 2

[edgy sable]

Haha. Yeah. They kinda slipped that naming convention in a week or two ago

Sugar 2 should be sick

But if the price is right I might own a 1 anyway

[unique surge]

I'll admit I kind of want to own one just to put it on a shelf. Fingers crossed for the price

[edgy sable]

Haha. It's def weird enough that as long as it's not a failure machine I'll probably keep one in the long run

[edgy sable]

https://youtube.com/live/bY0AWBb3hOQ?feature=share

[inland falcon]

They confirmed in the stream that there's just one ram/storage config

So probably $600 then

[edgy sable]

Yeah. 16GB 512GB

$600 is probably it

[topaz perch]

Things confirmed in the live stream:

• Both screens are AMOLED
• 450 Nits peak brightness
• 6" screen is 120hz
• Demo units had plastic hinges, retail units have SK7 steel hinges
• Silicone case comes with it as a free gift
  I don't think I caught anything else important but I was skipping around a lot

This is the Battery level LED. So stubbs won't have to cover it with a sticker 😄

[edgy sable]

Supposedly price tomorrow

[hollow raptor]

I hope they specify which delivery company they'll use for different regions

AYN did this for the Portal and it was great. They confirmed EU and UK orders would be shipped via 4PX, which meant we didn't have to pay VAT on delivery. If it was DHL (like AyaNeo always do for their IndieGoGo campagins), then we'd have to add on a big chunk to the final price

So yeah if this is $600 but shipped via DHL, it'll be $720 to the UK (20% VAT) before any shipping is added on

[torpid torrent]

Makes a big difference

[lofty hollow]

Holy transformer megatron megazord bumblebee tuna moly

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k72tLRb7ZYI

[red yacht]

Full video review: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DduQzuEjA/

No English subs, but his final recommendation is to only buy this if you really enjoy playing 3DS/NDS games or tinkering with the device, as there are compromises compared to standard horizontal handhelds, which are better in terms of battery life, price, grip ergonomics, and cooling

[red yacht]

Now uploaded to Youtube (Turn on auto translate for English subs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mcZ9Ia2vQ

[primal bloom]

How many of you are tempted by the $599 early bird price?

[hollow raptor]

Man it's so expensive

All those moving parts too, so many points of failure

Imagine you pay $599 and then the hinges go loose

It does look sick tho, ahhh...

[primal bloom]

Definitely out of my budget range, maybe if I didn’t just buy a rp5 and dual screen

[quick cave]

All I have to say is good luck at that price

[sharp token]

Not sure about that magnetic d pad cover, will wait on video reviews to see how it holds up

[primal bloom]

Is that really the only remaining factor for you?

[sharp token]

Nah, more saying that might be a reason to be worried about the rest of it

[edgy sable]

I dunno about that. It's like, gonna be shit. Lol

The rest of it at least looks engineered. That was just slapped on

But I totally expect to use the dpad switch style anyway

[quick cave]

Either that or it gets lost within the first couple of days

[edgy sable]

Probably a pass for me. Sucks cause flip 1s probably a pass too. So my DS dreams might go back on hold

[quick cave]

Retroid screen add on is a option

Not as slick looking all in 1 but you save a ton of money

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-shoot-me-king-of-the-hill-hose-gun-gif-9222714

[primal bloom]

Namechange incoming?

[primal bloom]

More will come

[twilit whale]

‼️‼️‼️‼️ peak

It's gonna be the bad screen on the bottom

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I have no doubt

[inland falcon]

Possibly

[edgy sable]

Just sucks cause at least 6 months off

Instead of 2

[primal bloom]

I wonder if this 30% off option is real

[frank vine]

probably the first 100 orders earlybird type deal but yeah

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I've been tempted but I'm really not a fan of attaching accessories in general. Plus they do a pretty bad job of letting you still access the power and volume buttons, etc.

[primal bloom]

The amount of copium in my brain is off the charts

[edgy sable]

My guess is knowing OneX 599 is 30% off 😆

[primal bloom]

That math doesn’t work out though, but that was my initial thought too

[edgy sable]

Pretty sure that's just like, don't miss the IGG where you can save 30%

[primal bloom]

They write >72 hours $669

[edgy sable]

Well there's EB which is 30% off..and then there's regular IGG price,.which will be like 25% off. And then there's msrp

Neither of those prices will be msrp

[frank vine]

only way to win is to buy a prebroken one used 2weeks after ship date for half off 🤣

[edgy sable]

Companies selling on IGG never put the retail price as an option. As it's supposed to be preorder "crowdfunding" "and a great deal!"

[primal bloom]

Just leave me hoping that I can get it for $420 because I signed up for their newsletter 🥹

[edgy sable]

Hahaha. I let you live that dream

[inland falcon]

That's what I was hoping for

[edgy sable]

But I'm guessing retail gonna be $850

[primal bloom]

Gross

[edgy sable]

I mean this is OneX

[solid magnet]

one morbillion dollar handheld

[edgy sable]

It's also not really ever gonna be $850. Cause there's always sales

[inland falcon]

Yeah, I might just get the retroid ds atp

[edgy sable]

I hate this whole process honestly

[primal bloom]

It better grind my coffee then as well at that price. Just one more hinge should be about to do it

[edgy sable]

I hate that we live in a world with preorder sales with % off MSRP that never actually ends up being the MSRP of the item, and then things like early birds with time limits and other shit exist

[solid magnet]

I'd probably get a horizontal handheld then mod a second screen onto it lol

[edgy sable]

Like it's all just so fake and consumery

[solid magnet]

but i'm also the kind of person who would actually do that kind of thing

[edgy sable]

And then the marketing team and staff are all like "you shouldn't complain about the price, look how great of a deal you're getting!"

[solid magnet]

I'd rather do that than pay $900 and get that horrible dpad

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I mean I care less about the dpad. I play a switch daily

I don't really do fighters..

Which is where I get a real dpad is nice

[solid magnet]

I don't play fighting games, but I care a lot about good dpads

separate buttons aren't my least favorite dpad style but it's close

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I guess I've just never struggled on a joycon regardless of game. Maybe they're mostly stick tho

[solid magnet]

these two are some of the ones I dislike the most

[edgy sable]

What about the RG cube dpad?

I know it's a disk. But I really liked that one

[solid magnet]

I don't have the cube so no clue but I don't tend to like shield style dpads

I can't buy every handheld despite my own best efforts apparently

[primal bloom]

I can forgive the dpad because of the cool switchblade transformer nature of the device. But the honest to god reality would be that it would be a very expensive fidget toy for me

[edgy sable]

The directionals at least go all the way through the middle

[solid magnet]

Cool is a strong word
It looks like a kickstarter scam from 12 years ago

[edgy sable]

Haha. Trust me. If it was just sugar and not Onex I'd be long gone

As the first onex android handheld they kinda have to make it work tho

[solid magnet]

they could have done a normal handheld first to get the engineering down before they did the weird shit but i guess they're just very ambitious

I see no world where it's durable enough for long term use tbh

and the layout they chose for the horizontal 1 screen mode is just baffling

I would be surprised if this thing had more than a paper launch tbh

it feels more like a publicity stunt than a real product they actually intend to release

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I dunno. I'd normally agree

But a ton of people were shown protos. They did reveal parties. And they have experience with both hinges and design

Like is the concept fucking bonkers. Yes

If it was some random startup on Kickstarter it'd 100% be a failure

But they've clearly dedicated resources to this above and beyond what most Chinese manus would

Now it def won't be flawless. But I have more faith then I usually do in the mechanics at least

Not saying that my base level is very high when it comes to this stuff

Now if your hesitations are how comfortable it is to hold and/or play. I totally get that

You're making sacrifices here no doubt. Lol

[unkempt night]

Anybody else even slightly concerned that the left configuration has it resting on the unprotected smaller screen?

[frank vine]

yes, everyone

[solid magnet]

everyone other than onex

[edgy sable]

I personally don't. I put my phone face down on stuff all the time. Of course I also use a hardened protector

[frank vine]

sure I do too but the case corners keep the screen off the table

[edgy sable]

Also based on the profile in this it's actually resting on the bottom edge and the back of the case where the triggers are

There's no way the screen is touching anyway

[frank vine]

fair

[unkempt night]

If I drop my phone there's only a 50% chance it will land on the side with a screen, though.

[edgy sable]

I drop my phone way more than my handhelds 😆

Would still likely be close to 50%. Unless your dropping it on pointy objects

Maybe when less cause sticks protruding on the front too

[edgy sable]

Hmm. Option 3 is I say fuck this and the 1s DS. And just grab a y700 g4

[primal bloom]

3ds won’t look as good

[edgy sable]

Sadly that's true. Sucks DS isn't more prevalent yet

[primal bloom]

But DS does look gorgeous on a vertical tablet though and there’s enough games if you can limit yourself.

[red yacht]

You might as well go for the Redmagic Astra for the best 3DS visuals with that amazing 165Hz OLED 😄

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Have been considering it. Especially since the y700 g9 controller has some issues

Just liked that it made it a handheld basically in its own right

A bummer it has no SD card slot or side usb-c

I could make it work for OLED tho

[paper bridge]

hard to believe it is no longer vaporware

is there a chance this turns out good? guess we'll see

[edgy sable]

It's different. That's for sure. "Good" will 100% depend on who you ask with this thing I'm sure

[hollow raptor]

Man, it's just... Even if the build quality is amazing, even if the hinges never go loose, even if it's the comfiest device ever... I just can't see it being worth the early bird price of $599

[obsidian lodge]

Too many failure points for me. If i could pick this up in a store and have proper warranty. Then would give it a shot. But I hope the best for this product.

[quick cave]

This is why the AyaNeo S2 sales are so low and it's even cheaper.
The price us just too steep for a Android handheld no matter how cool or good it might seem

[inland falcon]

At this price I don't think I would want to take it outside the house tbh

[hollow raptor]

Trust I'd be scared to use the thing

[edgy sable]

Eh. I took my win max 2 out

And that thing was pricey

I guess if you've ever traveled with any of these niche x86 devices before $600 doesn't seem that risky. Heh

Heck my phone was like 1500 retail or something (that said I got it for less than half open box)

I def wouldn't be butterfly knife swinging it like some of the vids tho 😆

Easy to do when it's not yours

Think the most expensive android device I've carried is the portal max

$100 less than this

[inland falcon]

It's mainly the cost combined with all the moving parts that's giving me pause tbh. I've been mulling it over on whether or not I actually should buy this

[twilit whale]

Yes the super sp

Buy the super sp

[daring lance]

Where?

[twilit whale]

Soon

[edgy sable]

In 4 to 5 years from magicx

[digital heath]

13 trips this year with several handhelds, cameras, laptops, and zero issues. Don't be scared guys. Just have all the devices in a case

[quick cave]

That ship has sailed

[twilit whale]

haha

[quaint prism]

The problem is that Screen Resolution doesn't exist.

[quaint prism]

Pretty close, it was $599 for the first 72 hours and $669 after it. Honestly the price seems fair considering the entire package your getting.

[twilit whale]

Neither did 4.7 960p

[quaint prism]

That's understandable, I'm still waiting for reviews tho.

[quaint prism]

Yes but it costed money to make that happen.

[twilit whale]

Cost money to make this happen

[quaint prism]

What do you mean?

[twilit whale]

Pay money to make 1440p happen instead

[edgy sable]

Man just wants the screen

Doesn't matter if anything else is attached

[kind horizon]

holy bezels batman

[edgy sable]

Gotta put magnets and buttons somewhere

[kind horizon]

they should try putting them on a better device!

[edgy sable]

I get it tho

[kind horizon]

i personally don't see the design going over that well in the long run

sooo many fail points

but it does look well made at the very least

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Steel hinges will help too. And enough people have been manhandling protos in person on vids. It at least will make it a week

If it was just Sugar I'd be out. But oneX at least has a pedigree. Just an expensive one

[hollow raptor]

DHL confirmed. This is gonna be more than $599 for EU and UK peeps.

[torpid torrent]

Not totally unexpected. Can't justify the price for use ratio and the d pad doesn't look great. One for people that want a superior 3ds/nds experience or like the idea of it flipping around.

[obsidian lodge]

Thats another reason then. Least Aya now offer DPD shipping

Not that i was getting this 😅

[hollow raptor]

I think Russ' video may get a lot of people to reconsider the preorder. We'll see in a few hours but this sounds ominous lol

[obsidian lodge]

Because metal on plastic is always a good idea * cough * cough Miyoo flip

👀

[rocky hull]

https://youtu.be/NWiQtccIapo

The dpad magnetic cover works about as well as you think it would

(it doesn't)

[edgy sable]

Yeah. As a non fighter player I don't honestly care as much

That said, im shocked it doesn't use cups on the back. That's actually kinda insane

Like clearly this was an afterthought

On the other hand there will def be 3d printed ones that use cups, so it's def something I'd print and try out

[hollow raptor]

Oh man, that d-pad detaching itself when he was playing street fighter

[edgy sable]

Yeah. If I took it out of the box. Flipped it over. And it was dead flat. I'd 100% not even bother

It ain't gonna work

Cups with a little rubberization would be even better. But you can't just slap that shit on there 😆

[inland falcon]

Fomo is kicking in hard

Think I'm just going to wait close to the end of campaign to see how good the other dual screen options are

[edgy sable]

Probably not a bad idea. I expect at least one more announced before years end

Eventually RP or Anbernic will drop one and it'll probably be the smartest choice. Heh

They need to sell all their attachments first tho

[balmy plume]

yeah this looks too experimental for me at this point

[edgy sable]

For sure. They've done some good faith stuff which gives me hope. But there's a lot going on that isnt really necessary

[lofty hollow]

I think this thing should have been named the nunchaku

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-nunchucks-gif-23400696

[inland falcon]

Well that was fast

[quick cave]

I figured as much , these types of add on Dpads never work and are almost always terrible

[edgy sable]

Cruising

I mean it'll level off pretty fast I'm sure

Once the diehards get in

[quick cave]

Did you order ?

[golden shuttle]

https://youtu.be/DLRKYoReFI0?si=UmlVFqxWIpPcx5ip

[quick cave]

[golden shuttle]

that shit is so getting lost

[digital heath]

Aaaaand interest lost

[inland falcon]

100 backers already wow

[golden shuttle]

This is jank

Congrats on doing something weird and different tho

[inland falcon]

My better judgement tells me not to get this but man I want to

[feral lotus]

trust your gut on this one

[golden shuttle]

exaust on your fingers is wild lol

[inland falcon]

Yeah russ basically just said that it's probably best to just wait

Also apparently the touch screen doesn't work well on the bottom screen when playing ds/3ds

[kind horizon]

Shocker

[quaint prism]

What just ruined this Handheld for me is the fact that this Handheld has horrible Battery Life. The main reason I save up for High-end Android Gaming Devices and will easily buy one over a Steam Deck is because of Battery Life. The OneXSugar is dead to me. 😥😭

Also the performance stability isn't great either.

[cedar sparrow]

NGL I want the Handheld but not at a $600 price tag for an A32 GPU

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I jumped in. Can cancel if I need to. But it's fun and weird enough I'll take the gamble

[cedar sparrow]

if it was $300 -$350 I could of rationalized the purchase more but for now I'm just going to watch it.

[quaint prism]

I just refuse to spend $600 on shitty battery life when playing High-end Android Gaming.

[cedar sparrow]

it isn't even High end RP5 has a better chipset. for $280 you can get dual Screens and more power.

[quaint prism]

I'd easily save up my money for this Handheld, but I can't justify the Battery Life.

[quaint prism]

No that is 100% wrong.

[cedar sparrow]

elaborate

[edgy sable]

Yeah. What a wild take. Lol

It's got gpu equivalent to an 8 elite. SD865 it is not. Lol

[quaint prism]

@cedar sparrow Did you watch Russ's Aya Neo Pocket S2 or OneXSugar vídeo?

[edgy sable]

It's a beast of a device. Especially with 16GB ram as well. Would have preferred a cheaper 12GB variant. But eh

[cedar sparrow]

I just watched RGC's video not that long ago

[quaint prism]

@edgy sable Plus the 512GB of Internal Storage would have been amazing for Android Gaming. "WOULD HAVE!!!"

But the Battery Capacity ruins everything.

[cedar sparrow]

eh for the main games people would play it for 5-8 hours isn't bad

[quaint prism]

No thank you, the battery life is a no go for me.

[cedar sparrow]

the price point is the deal breaker for me cause the parts just can't justify a $600 price tag especially for a chipset Qualcomm themselves has stopped listing.

[edgy sable]

My concern with battery is stand by time and android will at least help with that

[edgy sable]

What chip do you think is in this?

I'm getting in a sporadic 4 hours of gameplay a day. So if I can make it a day without charging that's enough for me. If I can leave it off charger for 3 days and have it not lose a ton of battery and jump back in even better

[cedar sparrow]

nevermind kept thinking it was the 3 gen 3

not the G3

-.-

their naming schemes are a nightmare

[edgy sable]

That I definitely agree with

But yeah. The only other Qualcomm chip out there that's stronger is the 8 elite. And even then they have same gpu, this is just slightly less powerful

[cedar sparrow]

Makes me wonder if I should just Repurpose the Arm Laptop

[edgy sable]

I haven't watched reviews yet I'm at work. But are they breaking down battery life by 1 vs dual screens. Or just kinda generalizing?

[cedar sparrow]

the battery life is based on what your Emulating

[edgy sable]

Well yeah. I was just curious whether anyone differentiated the two

[cedar sparrow]

Ps2 and equivalent emulation is about an 1 hour where as Nes is closer to 11 hours

[edgy sable]

I mean OLED should be pretty low draw

[quaint prism]

Good Question, knowing Russ it might be a generalization.

[cedar sparrow]

I don't honestly think it had that big of an Impact since both DS and 3DS emulation were 8 & 5 Hours respectively

[edgy sable]

I could just see myself single screening it a fair amount too. Until I need to look up a guide or walkthrough

[quaint prism]

I already know this. According to Russ's testing Battery Life during PS2 and above Emulation is poor.

[quaint prism]

AMOLED 🙂

[edgy sable]

Yeah. It'd have to be as a phone screen

[cedar sparrow]

anyways I think the 2nd Screen stays on regardless just in a sleep state.

[edgy sable]

Still the only dual amoled device out there

[edgy sable]

Yeah. When you flip it back it turns "off". Now whether it just turns black I don't know. But with amoled it shouldn't matter really, as for all purposes it's basically not on

[cedar sparrow]

I want to see one teared down to be honest.

[edgy sable]

Find some space to squeeze a battery mod 😆

[quaint prism]

I might wait for Ayn or maybe Sugar Team's next Handheld. 😥

[cedar sparrow]

well I mean for it's size I struggle to believe it's a Soldered 512.

[edgy sable]

I'm guessing Anbernic or Retroid will be the next with one

I imagine we'll see an Ayn Odin 3 first

[cedar sparrow]

probably Retroid, considering Anbernic is catching Side Eyes

[edgy sable]

Might have missed the drama..what'd they do now?

[quaint prism]

A transforming Handheld!? I highly doubt it.

[cedar sparrow]

not what they did, more like what Nintendo did.

[edgy sable]

Nah. Dual screen android

[quaint prism]

However if Anbernic makes a Transforming Handheld. "Shut up and take my money!!!" 💰

[edgy sable]

You know there's some design drawings of a DS RP flip on the table

[cedar sparrow]

Nintendo had an italian handheld reviewer who mostly reviewed anbernic arrested.

[quaint prism]

I can definitely see this happening.

[edgy sable]

Goddamn. What was the charge?

[cedar sparrow]

Piracy mostly. cause of the built in games.

[edgy sable]

Ah yeah. Didn't they say they were gonna offer some game downloader or some shit

That's just dumb

[cedar sparrow]

to be honest Nintendo has been on a Spree since the Switch 2 launch

[quaint prism]

Nintendo is garbage, I gave up on their products in 2017.

[cedar sparrow]

I'm still Hunting down one of the Snes IBMs

[edgy sable]

I mean I play the shit out of my switch 2. So I can't make such claims 😆

[cedar sparrow]

Amazon about a month ago was selling Japanese Oled Switches for $150

[edgy sable]

Yeah. But Nintendo cuts prices in Japan pretty significantly because of their struggling market. Which is pretty cool imo

[cedar sparrow]

I feel like Software tweaks will make the Sugar better but at the same time $600 for an arm handheld is just a big ask.

[quaint prism]

If I like some Switch games after emulating them I'll buy a Switch 2.

[edgy sable]

I at least know Onex will push updates

[quaint prism]

Or refurbish a Switch 1.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. I just already had a switch backlog, so playing it with better performance on a bigger screen. Yes please

[cedar sparrow]

I feel like some of the battery Life issues with the Sugar is partially do to it being brand new and not fully optimized yet.

[edgy sable]

Kinda. Honestly I think the form factor just made fitting a battery tough. It should be pretty close to stock android

If anything there's probably firmware improvements on the G3G3 side which might help

[quaint prism]

I don't know about the ergonomics though, plus over 80% of the Switch Catalog I can buy on PC.

[edgy sable]

Yeah. If your like me your throwing grips on a handheld anyway. Which in turn makes them comfy

[cedar sparrow]

most of the games the Switch 2 are selling for $80 I've gotten for $5-$10 on steam

[edgy sable]

Yeah. You buy it cause you want to play the first party games. That's really the only reason

And there's always sales down the road

[cedar sparrow]

Switch was a solid Indie hand held, with decent 1st party games.

[wheat tangle]

That's the case for basically every console these days since more and more are also hitting PC/Steam anyway.

[edgy sable]

Target usually does a buy one get one every year. Which is still $30-40 but

[edgy sable]

Yeah. The indies are on sale pretty regularly and I love supporting indies

And most play great on a handheld

[cedar sparrow]

but yeah if the Sugar has an m.2 or Sata Instead of Soldiered Memory I could see someone expanding it.

[edgy sable]

512 + Sd card is more than enough for me

[cedar sparrow]

I have two 37tb Externals >.>

thinking about getting another one.

[edgy sable]

Hehe

I mean my library is huge. But I rarely want it all on one device. If I don't curate I have to scroll through a ton of garbage to get to the 10 games I want to play anyway

[cedar sparrow]

going to be honest I own more games then I could play in my lifetime.

Constant Steam sales has not helped this situation.

[edgy sable]

Haha. Yeah. I stopped looking and have been actually clearing some backlog. Feels good

[paper bridge]

didn't watch the video yet but I can already tell that the next sentence to this one started with "however..."

this handheld reminds me of the pimax portal

impressive specs on paper for its time but because the team is inexperienced they didn't nail the details

[obsidian lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/nailed-it-gif-6158444

Yes very pimax portal

We all know how that turned out 😜

I remember owning my portal for about an hour before going ewwww and boxing it back up and selling it 😅

[olive abyss]

I'm not sure where this info about the G3 Gen 3 having the same GPU as the SD 8 Elite came from but that is not accurate.

[rotund arch]

I mean the G3 Gen 3 is what's advertised as an Adreno A33 is closer to an Adreno 750 in the 8 Gen 3 that's way different than the Adreno 830

[inland falcon]

Onexsugar clamshell when

[frank vine]

when the sugar part of that partnership leaves

[torpid torrent]

Would have made a straight forward 2 screen device with 8gen2 and $250 cheaper probably ayn or anbernic will in next few months.

[sharp spruce]

It is so cool to see something unique, thats one great thing about this market having grown so much just with performance. There is a real need to standout. It reminds me of the earlier cell phone days

[edgy sable]

I mean eventually we'll performance cap. We're kinda already there

Then my hope is manus start adding cooler features and designs. Rather than chasing hardware that's expensive and really only benefits android gaming

I mean there's PS3 but who knows where that'll endup

[kind horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/kobe-bryant-gif-11985604353498547511

sugar cubes when its time to overengineer the fuck out of a product and solve problems that don't exist

[feral lotus]

that rotating 1:1 screen one was definitely the dumbest thing ever

[kind horizon]

counterargument: that was funny as fuck

[quaint prism]

@olive abyss @remote moth I don't know if you guys have your review units, but can you do me a favor? We need extensive Battery Life tests in Dual Screen and Single Screen Handheld modes. Can you test Battery Life during Low-End, High-End, and Native Gaming and Emulation? Please 🙏🏿 🥺

[olive abyss]

Russ is sending his unit to Stubbs or Zu next. We don't have any review units/will not be getting any. 🫂

[obsidian lodge]

@olive abyss Would be interested to see how those hinges fair after all the reviews 😅 who’s getting it last? 🤣

[quaint prism]

I'd like to see this too.

[quaint prism]

My question is why did they send out the prototype for review? Then again they did claim the Prototype was 90% of what the retail unit will be.

[paper bridge]

because it's a prototype only in that there are a couple minor blemishes that will be fixed in retail units

not a prototype as in unfinished product

call it a pre-production unit

[steady garden]

"I haven't finished the video yet, but I honestly can't think of a single way that this wouldn't be better as a straight up two screen clamshell with the same screens and guts."

yeah why not compete with retro pocket flip 2? thiws has stronger chip

[unkempt night]

I feel like a lot of companies are dancing around Nintendo's DS-related patents.

(A lot of which should be theoretically expiring if the 20-year limit holds.)

[halcyon galleon]

Its gonna be hard to beat a DS lite. But id love to see it happen.

[frank vine]

Yeah im not sure about DS patents either nintendo does have patents for dual screen folding devices for sure but the DS wasnt their first by like another 20 years
I doubt the patents are enforceable at this point but everyones afraid

1982

[wheat tangle]

I think it mainly depends on how the patents are worded.
I'm sure Ayaneo got away with it since theirs was a "multi-screen portable miniPC"

[frank vine]

yeah for sure but mechanically this and the DS are so close that a novel design patent (in a sane world) shouldn't have been issued

its more that the concepts of patents are broken and nintendo is very good at abusing things

they probably wouldnt fair well under actual legal scrutiny but N is to big to fail

[wheat tangle]

Unfortunately, we're in a world where "smoothly getting on a flying mount" is a patent.

Honestly, if Nintendo losses the Palworld suit it'll probably open the floodgates in a good way.

[unkempt night]

So much of gaming has been ruined by patent abuse.

[frank vine]

*everything

[wheat tangle]

Yeah, copywrite/trademark/patent are things meant for good but easily abused or are too long lasting.

[frank vine]

Conceptually it was you made something novel you should be able to profit from it for ~10years (by country)
Which has exploded to I changed the spelling of 1 line on something stupid generic and not novel at all +15year extension plz

[wheat tangle]

They should last long enough for you to establish yourself and after that if you can't do better than imitators it's your loss.

[frank vine]

Also the fact that it only benefits companies large enough to slug it out in a 5 year court case

[olive abyss]

This is the better description of what they send out. I don't know why OneX insists on labeling their review units as prototypes since that typically suggests a very early model. @quaint prism

[frank vine]

https://instrumental.com/build-better-handbook/manufacturing-term-glossary
This is likely a DVT/PVT basically they run one production line for a shift, diagnose any issues that might come up in final assembly and send the units out to T&E before going full production
"PVT: PVT stands for Production Validation Test. The main purpose during this build phase is to verify mass production yields at mass production speeds and to qualify additional tools needed to support mass quantities for the early ramp-up of manufacturing. Typical quantities range from 1k to 20k. This is the last step in the development process before mass production."

quantities for something like this would be much lower so basically ignore the typical product range

[torpid torrent]

The irony of this device is that you can move all the bits this way and that but you can't put the screen at an angle.

[edgy sable]

It's more like lawyer power. I'm sure a good team could win based on things like their OG devices and MS duo among other things. But that costs money

And Nintendo has lots of money

Fees to make it to the finish line could kill some of these companies if they couldn't recoup them at the end

Nintendo has ridiculous cash reserves. They always have.

Think they have like $14 billion or something at this point

[kind horizon]

Like one company owning a patent for loading screen minigames

[edgy sable]

To be fair, they have a right to protect their shit. People hate them for it, but in JP it's very much just business

they get less butt hurt about it then we do in the west. Mostly because we deal with actual patent abuse affecting our quality of life daily

[unkempt night]

Saying "it's just business" doesn't absolve Nintendo of their actions, or the systemic issues they exploit.

[edgy sable]

Yawn. They are protecting video games. Society will move on. I'm not a fan of their crackdown on content creators. But they do innovate a fair amount. I'm fine with them protecting that innovation. If patent age out is too long, then the laws should be changed (and I agree they should) but they're working within the system and at least still do cool stuff. Plenty of people do way less and sue way more. Not gonna make it my life goal to complain every time someone mentions them.

Way worse offenders. Less found in video games because they don't really innovate just iterate, and therefore likely wouldn't win if the tried

The crackdown on content creation is a big sad tho. Not really a win for them

[wheat tangle]

I understand that in Japan you have to show an attempt at enforcing/protecting your patents or you lose them, but stuff like the Palworld lawsuit where they're making/editing patents after the fact to try and bury them is just gross.

Especially when it's nonsense stuff like "smoothly getting on a flying mode of transportation"

[edgy sable]

Yeah. That's pretty shady. I also give little crap about palworld. Maybe it's evolved past a mashup of other people's stuff now

Also the changing of patents is an ethical issue not a legal one. Corrections and changes are allowed. I'm assuming the law also allows them to address those changes. So like, ok I guess? I mean if they are that dumb then Nintendo should lose. That's kinda the point. If anything it probably strengthens pocket pairs case.

I just have little empathy when there was clearly artistic infringement and they changed things in an update. Then there were other similarities and they changed those in an update. So clearly they're aware of things they "maybe" copied from somewhere else. Allow this to happen too much and suddenly all games are just AI gen modified versions of other games and it all turns to slop

And I'm not even saying this as a fan of Pokemon. I haven't played a Pokemon game in decades. All of them kinda fell flat for me short of those first few experiences

[wheat tangle]

The lawsuit is purely on patents, not copyright. Nintendo has no leg on that front.

Patents made after Palworld was released.

Patents that other games have also already done well before Palworld.

[frank vine]

cough cough most of what palworld did was also in their previously abandoned game craftopia (except you didnt use the monster for battle)

guess that was the step too far

[wheat tangle]

No need to get too into it here I guess, but the only similarity to Pokemon there was was that there are creatures you can capture basically. Otherwise it's just a survival game.

[wheat tangle]

I mean, it's still getting monthly updates to be fair.

[frank vine]

pitiful nothing updates for the last two years basically we have one part timer keeping the lights on

that game died the instant palworld trailer went viral

[wheat tangle]

I feel like it always had kind of sluggish updates even before Palworld. It probably just feels worse now.

[edgy sable]

I mean a pretty core step with assets that looked almost identical 😆

[wheat tangle]

As for this point, the mechanical changes are just to avoid an injunction that would force them to delist the game while the lawsuit is ongoing. None of the Pals have been visually altered as far as I'm aware.

[edgy sable]

I'd imagine a fair amount of the base wanted to stick it to pokemon. Vindictive support only lasts so long. In there defense recent Pokemon has been kinda dreadful

[quaint prism]

I don't know, I might save up for the OneXSugar. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠⊙⁠_⁠ʖ⁠⊙⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[wheat tangle]

I want it for the "Huh, that's neat" factor, but not to actually use, ahaha.

[quaint prism]

Handhelds like this don't come around everyday.

I must say @primal crown I watched your OneXSugar video and I'm sad you didn't give the Handheld one of your iconic personalities.

[primal crown]

Haha I wish I could have. I literally threw that video together in a day because the launch was immanent (I messed up the date, thought I had an extra day). I usually prefer to give vids 2-3 days so I can do something fun.

[frank vine]

so sue them on IP not patent?

[quaint prism]

Oooo... I thought it was because you didn't like the Handheld.

@primal crown I got some design feedback for OneXSugar.

[cedar sparrow]

quick question would anyone honestly pay $899 for this?

[twilit whale]

As I have said for a looong time.

[cedar sparrow]

Dual screen is kind of Niche and Retroid is selling an additional Screen for their handhelds

I could see them doing a modified Flip D1 but at the same time it's just as easy to sell a $65 screen attachement.

[twilit whale]

Raaaah super sp!!!!!!

[kind horizon]

it really just is not worth the price for the function

[twilit whale]

Super SP stays winning

[kind horizon]

it's more the novelty than anything

[twilit whale]

Another flop trying to emulate the power of the super sp!!!!!!?!

[inland falcon]

Nope, $600 really should be the base cost imo

[kind horizon]

WHAT IS THE SUPER SP

WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS

caps

[cedar sparrow]

right now it's $599 but supposedly it's suppose to drop the 30% discount and go 899.

[twilit whale]

Peak

Raaaah super sp!!!!!!

[inland falcon]

Wait I think it's $800 actually

[kind horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/looks-into-the-camera-like-the-office-the-office-gif-21412318

[tidal sapphire]

isn't the normal price $699?

[cedar sparrow]

they have a crossed out price and I keep getting emails saying to get it while the %30 discount is in place

[kind horizon]

this really should have just had something like the 865 and been done with it

[cedar sparrow]

yeah sorry 800

[tidal sapphire]

oh i thought it was EB $599 and normal $699

[kind horizon]

pretty much every single facet of the device is just weirdly not useful for what its trying to accomplish

[inland falcon]

Seems like there's only a 25% discount

[cedar sparrow]

it is what it is.

still think at $599 it's over priced for what it is.

[tidal sapphire]

it's a SD8G3 chipset

[inland falcon]

Yeah, at its initial teaser I was super hyped for it since it was an actual dual screen handheld, but now with other companies throwing their hats into the ring with dual screens it feels a bit unnecessary

[tidal sapphire]

that's like 1 generation out (atm) from current gen chipsets

[cedar sparrow]

even if the chipset is impressive they're basically asking for X86 hand held prices where you have a bunch around the $750 range.

[inland falcon]

Yeah, it's not much cheaper than the flip 1s either

[tidal sapphire]

i'll probalby end up ordering a 2nd screen from retroid next month, just waiting on RGC to get his stuff and see how well it fits on the portal fan/exhaust wise

[kind horizon]

18:9 top screen — obviously for size fitting but ensures everything is always letterboxed horribly
31:27 bottom screen — size fitting and OLED matching but absolutely pointless for DS/3DS emulation
dpad/face buttons — not as big a deal for me specifically but I don't see anyone liking the dual micro switch face buttons thing
right analog stick on top — obviously again for DS mode but makes non-DS mode basically impossible to play
8 gen 3 chipset — completely overkill for 3DS emu, who is honestly trying to do switch emulation on this device?
android — worst possible OS for dual screen support, basically just does not work in many scenarios
three hinges — will be unusable in 1 year time
$699 — just get a flip 1s for $799????

[cedar sparrow]

eh it's also $799 after the discount is over.

[tidal sapphire]

that's one thing that annoys me about this device is the aspect ratios

[cedar sparrow]

also the weird you have to tap the top screen to interact with the bottom is kind of a killer for DS games

[twilit whale]

No it's a g3 gen 3

[tidal sapphire]

i should probably watch the rest of the rgc video, that tapping topscreen thing sounds annoying

[cedar sparrow]

cause you kind of have to guess where on the Top Screen you're tapping to get the interaction you want.

[edgy sable]

G3G3 so technically current

[cedar sparrow]

still over kill

[edgy sable]

That's an emulator issue they're already resolving supposedly

Not Onex but the devs

[tidal sapphire]

different people want different things, i chose a portal over a pocket 5 purely so i could play games at 4k downsampled to 1080p

[cedar sparrow]

I praise the Rare Portal Owner.

[edgy sable]

Chipset is good for android gaming

[tidal sapphire]

i do wish there was a cheaper solution to a 2nd screen, i have a s10, the back is smashed so it just sits in the drawer unused

[tidal sapphire]

AYN not PlayStation btw

[cedar sparrow]

oh

eh still praise

[tidal sapphire]

[edgy sable]

I guess the whole point of folding it into one screen is to play PS2, switch and whatnot anyway

[cedar sparrow]

with it's specs shouldn't it possibly be able to do some PS3?

[edgy sable]

Ayaneo flip DS arm ... Oh wait you said cheaper 😆

[edgy sable]

Yeah. Tho the video has me concerned about thermals at that point

[cedar sparrow]

honestly it looked like the fans weren't enough.

[tidal sapphire]

i have been seeing people use usb-c capture cards but those alone cost the same price as a screen from retroid