Anbernic RG406H

[tepid plover]

The shaderists be cray cray

Absolutely is

[civic bay]

The miyoo flip thread is pretty much its own community at this point.

It'll be here in a few months......

[winter anvil]

More like a 12 steps support group

[slender pelican]

Are you returning your or did you ever even buy it?

[graceful kiln]

Is this why they keep blowing smoke into it?

[tepid plover]

i think only thing that they might have possibely do is that they switched release plans for V vs H ... as 406h has been originally rumoured alongside "506"=>556

but ptobably not even that ... just anbernic doing anbernic things

and probably just tested waters on the screen/analogs with V before doing the "less niche one" like H

[hexed tartan]

Yup, was about to show a comparison shot myself.

[winter anvil]

I mean, that's possible, but I don't know Chinese, so can't confirm it

I know "PG" sounds like "ass" in Chinese, so that's why Google Translate turns Max's tirades about ZPG into ass poetry

I know the way Max says the word "materials" makes it sound similar to the word "urine" (as in "you must use good urine"), that's why that's a meme on Baidu

So yeah, it's possible that when he talks about "fooling assholes" he's talking about fooling ZPG, but we'd need a native speaker to confirm

Don't know if Lao Zhang is aware of the pun and that's why he put this at the end of one of ZPG's promo videos

[versed walrus]

If this was a betting site what would be the date everyone would put the 406 reveal on? My money would be on some time early next week, but I couldn’t put a hard date down.

[lost turtle]

usually they announce around 10th of each month? I think

[lost turtle]

what's his beef with Lao Zhang though? Why he would like to fool ZPG? and why did he want to undercut Z1 Unicorn sales?

[hallow charm]

I think they probably had the cube planned to be one of their T820's and the only change due to zpg was bringing that one forward as they realised there probably wasn't enough of a market for multiple higher end 1:1 devices

[winter anvil]

I'd say it comes down to GKD M+ — the first non-Anbernic RK3566 device supposedly made jointly by GKD and Powkiddy that Anbernic really didn't want to happen so soon

But maybe it goes deeper than that

[twin kestrel]

or shallower, wont be surprised

[winter anvil]

I think back in the GKD M+ days Zhang said Anbernic was so mad they were buying large batches of RK3566 to prevent the device from happening

Of course Zhang could be full of shit too, manufacturing was never his strong suit. Also later Powkiddy didn't seem to have any problems finding the chip for their devices.

[undone lake]

I actually had the mini+5 combo ordered but then had to cancel due to a bit of personal life panic (some sudden expenses etc) so that kicked me back to 'wait for reviews then buy one of them' rather than 'get them both and then sell the one you like less'

worked out for me since the current mini screen issues would be a dealbreaker if they aren't fixed.

and also after I bit on the rp5+mini combo the 406v dropped and I am a sucker for that - I loved the 405v. So my 406 will hold me over until the dust settles on the snapdragon stuff - I definitely want an 865 now thanks to linux support though so unless the mini screen is fixed soon-ish I'll probably wind up with a 5 (if the 5 doesn't have that issue, which so far early reports are that it does not and the 5 screen is great)

[winter anvil]

What's wrong with mini's screen?

I know it's something about shaders, but don't understand what

[normal trout]

The pixels aren't in a square grid like shaders expect them to be

Its also an issue for scaling

[undone lake]

there's a lot of uncertainty about a root cause but it appears there's some interpolation going on like the image is being stretched to beyond 960p and then downsampled back to 960p.

it's also a pentile layout which can be less than ideal for retro and shaders but other pentile layout screens don't exhibit this issue, at least not this bad.

its not a shader specific problem, you can see the issue even in the bootloader if you look closely

we'll have no idea what the total cause is until it's fixed, and we have no idea if it's actually even fixable until it's fixed I imagine

[winter anvil]

And it presents itself under both Linux and Android, right?

[undone lake]

correct

it appears right in the bootloader before you even load an OS

for now I would treat it as a 'potentially fixable' flaw with the display itself

a flaw that to be clear doesn't seem to bother most people who are using it for 3d systems without shaders

ps2 etc

it just really bothers people who care about integer scaling (because it's impossible on that screen currently) and shaders (because the effect gets really obvious when a bunch of parallel lines or grids are used)

[slender pelican]

There was a silver lining to the panic I guess.

I'm somewhat ambivalent about returning it. They want me to pay shipping back. I could do a charge back but that's pretty drastic. I'm really disappointed in the issues and Gamma's comments give some hope that it could be resolved, but there's far from any guarantee that it will be. And it's a deal breaker for me too.

[undone lake]

I mean if you pay for shipping all the way to china you'd probably lose less just selling the thing...

[flat night]

everyday yall talk about the mini screen

like literally every day

every single godddamn day

[undone lake]

yeah it's the biggest release in the space atm so it comes up when discussing other devices that compete against it yeah

[slender pelican]

Yeah that's what makes it dubious.

[undone lake]

that's how markets work

[flat night]

then buy something else?

[undone lake]

do you know what thread you are in? did you read any of the discussion before complaining about it?

[flat night]

nah yall are just fixated on it

[undone lake]

people are literally comparing the 406h to the rp mini

because those are literally the two new 4:3 horizontals

[flat night]

i cant even look at other threads without seeing the same complaints over and over and over and over and over

[undone lake]

one of the strengths of the 406 screen is how good it is for integer scaling, something the mini screen is straight up not capable of at least for now so the mini's screen issue is gonna come up.

[undone lake]

sounds like a you problem

[flat night]

arent you tired?

[undone lake]

you are adding literally nothing to this discussion right now

[flat night]

you are literally saying the same complaint over and over

for a week

[undone lake]

none of us owe you a conversation you find more entertaining

so go away?

[slender pelican]

Then read something else?

[flat night]

how many different threads are you going to complain on

[undone lake]

my brother in christ, someone asked me about it

stop whining and leave me alone

instead of following me around trying to shut down any conversation you personally don't want to read.

you're being a bully and contributing literally nothing

[flat night]

im observing the same complaint, it might as well be spam

[undone lake]

You're not observing shit

you can do that without whining about it.

You haven't even tried talking about another topic

you just are trying to shut down a discussion

you've added nothing, you've helped with nothing, and you're just trying to stop other people from talking.

[flat night]

neither have you

[undone lake]

you're just trying to silence dissent against your preferred gameboy for some reason

the same thing you did so rudely you got warned about it IN THE DISCORD FOR THE DEVICE IN QUESTION

[flat night]

have you helped at all?

nope

[normal trout]

Ladies

[undone lake]

I was literally asked to provide info

[normal trout]

Chill

[undone lake]

and I did

if you don't like it feel free to jog on

because as is all you're doing is harassing me

[flat night]

im jsut pointing out you complain about the mini screen in so many threads

is that harassment?

[undone lake]

I did not complain about anything

someone asked me what the issue was so I gave them a run down

[flat night]

stop playing victim

jfc

[undone lake]

how would I be 'playing victim'

retroid doesn't owe me anything

just leave me alone.

if you don't want to read my posts, don't.

[slender pelican]

But the way, thanks @undone lake You don't need me to tell you this since you know those aren't good faith arguments but you've actually been a big help

[tepid plover]

them shadderists

[slender pelican]

It sucks that people get harassed by others because some just get defensive about their toys.

[tepid plover]

like i get people are waiting for a fix

[flat night]

at least other people are trying to get shaders to work, something productive

[undone lake]

its just the ktr1 all over again

[undone lake]

the problem exists even with shaders disabled, you can see it in the bootloader

[tepid plover]

but spamming same messages of "my shaders doesnt" work doesnt help anyone ... it rather spamms retroid staff and relevant info can get hidden

[undone lake]

that's literally what was being discussed before you came in

[tepid plover]

iirc with gamma's research we are already way ahead of this info

[undone lake]

there is no way to use shaders to fix a display interpolation that is happening after the shaders

[verbal kite]

Everyday I come in here hoping for new pics 😔

[undone lake]

what colourway you hoping for?

I already have a 406v but if they bring out the 40xxV blue for the 406h I might have to double dip

[verbal kite]

Nothing I’m too firm on. Just something neutral

[tepid plover]

blue would be fire

that one looks so good

[undone lake]

I don't love white, black, or transparent colours which means I'm normally forced onto grey by handheld companies

[tepid plover]

its just on a device i have zero need for

[undone lake]

so when they do a non-transparent fun colour I have to go for that.

[slender pelican]

How do you mean? Gamma's findings corroborate that.

[verbal kite]

Yea some sort of non transparent

[graceful kiln]

My asshole is made of good urine

[slender pelican]

I know I'm a minority but I would really want a metal version

[undone lake]

the 406v screen is really nice, I think people will be happy with this one as long as the controls are good

[winter anvil]

Well I literally didn't know what the deal with shaders was, so thanks for explaining @undone lake

[graceful kiln]

This is way more detail than I expected! Thanks, actually an interesting read lol. It's to know why these mistranslations happen

[tepid plover]

my tech knowledge isnt enough to understand a fraction of his research ... but he has been testing video out as possible cause for possible weird scaling thing

[verbal kite]

Lol PG would be the acronym of ass in Chinese

In its phonetic spelling

[undone lake]

Gamma is a literal god when it comes to these android handhelds, can't wait for gamma lite on the t820 to get even more absurd battery out of my fat gameboy

I wonder if this being a bit chonky means it'll have as big of a battery as the 406v

[slender pelican]

Yeah, he surmises the problem isn't the panel but how the device initializes it at boot. Meaning it affects everything displayed but could also potentially be fixed.

[tepid plover]

tldr just let the devs cook , let tech gods like gamma research .... spamming "shader doesnt work "every 15 minutes doesnt help anyone

[slender pelican]

Was he ever able to do GammaOS for the 556 though?

[undone lake]

nobody spammed anything

someone unaware of the issue asked about it and got a cliff notes version

and then a bunch of people from the retroid server started whining that info was being shared

[tepid plover]

i mean thats how it was yesterday in retroid server 😄

i got super lost

[undone lake]

that has nothing to do with me being asked about the issue this morning on this server

[verbal kite]

Shaders don’t work

[tepid plover]

and didnt even notice Gammas post in midle of the whining

[undone lake]

I'm not responsible for what other people post on a different discord.

[verbal kite]

Good thing it’s called Discord

[tepid plover]

i am not calling you out or anything .. just stating what i experienced

[slender pelican]

Why are you arguing against something that isn't happening now, or here?

[undone lake]

you know what screen shaders work perfectly on? the 406 screen.

[tepid plover]

well

officially we dont know what screen it has 😛

but havent seen anyone trying them in 406v thread either surprisingly ... given how much of a deal its supposed to be

[undone lake]

I would hope it's safe to say the 406v screen is gonna be on the 406h lol

if they went back to the 480p 405 screen that would be DOA

[slender pelican]

What are the odds that Anbernic redoes the entire H700 4" 4:3 line with the 406 display?

[tepid plover]

i am so glad we are slowly moving from 480p deadlock

[undone lake]

I would be willing to bet the next gen of budget devices from them will use higher res displays now that they're available

[tepid plover]

even on smaller budgety like trimui brick

[slender pelican]

Hmm

[verbal kite]

Does trim ui even have a 480 handheld

Lol

[undone lake]

the 3.2" 1024x768, the 3.5" 960x640 3:2, the 4.0" 960x720 all seem like viable screens for a potential 'yy' or whatever line comes after xx lol

[undone lake]

lol no they skipped right from 240p to 1024x768 and 720p widescreen

[tepid plover]

inbefe they use WW instead off XX

[verbal kite]

[tepid plover]

or something weirder

[slender pelican]

The Brick might be the closest to "RG40XXV with the 406V screen" that I can get.

[undone lake]

a lot smaller though

[slender pelican]

Yes that's the problem

[tepid plover]

they let the devs cook

[undone lake]

and despite being higher res 1024x768 is not as nice of a res for integer scaling.

as 960x720

960x720 is basically perfect for 99% of games before the 480p era (dreamcast and up)

[tepid plover]

tbh i dont really need integer on 3,2" daily commute tiny gameboy ... but thats just me 😄
i am just trying upgrade parts of my collection slowly

[undone lake]

1280x960 (if you can actually get a clean non-interpolated res out of it) is better for 480p stuff and scales home console 240p stuff just as well too but the 960x720 integer scales handhelds perfectly which doesn't happen again until you get up to 1440p

so the 406 is basically my perfect fifth gen and down machine

even integer scales 2x psp

[verbal kite]

I legit had a dream about aspect ratios this is getting carried away

[slender pelican]

Yeah, certainly.

[undone lake]

shem put the 'but a lot of old pc games support 1024x768' brainworm in me with his rgb20 pro review and now I'm considering buying a TV remote that plays descent.

since no sticks and a133p on the brick means the rgb20 pro will be the better portmaster device.

[verbal kite]

That bezel is disgusting though

[undone lake]

oh yeah it's a gross looking handheld

[slender pelican]

That's why I like my Pocket S so much.

[undone lake]

absurdly tall, weird window, acrylic front, control layout makes zero sense. the rgb20pro is possibly the least sensibly designed handheld to ever grace this hobby but that somehow makes it more appealing to me

like a pug.

[slender pelican]

1440p can even do integer scaled SNES at 8:7 or 4:3

[verbal kite]

Well it does technically have the same layout as your 406

[undone lake]

snes is always a PITA for integer scaling, best I've found so far in handhelds is 8:7 on a 720x720 with some horizontal overscan or 8:7 or a bit too wide for 4:3 on a 1080p with some vertical overscan (5x vert and either 5x or 6x horizontal scaling)

1440p pocket S is too modern looking and expensive for me I'm afraid

I want my retro handhelds to look retro like the rp2s, rgb10max3pro, 406v, etc

I hope the all glass front fad dies off soon lol

all glass front wouldn't stop me from buying an otherwise great device (not a hard dealbreaker) but I'd prefer a plastic handheld.

[slender pelican]

Yeah, makes sense.

I want a vertical for the form factor and nostalgia too. Too bad the 406V is so ugly...

[undone lake]

I was sad they axed wood grain

gotta lean in to the uggo

I settled for EU/JP snes

[slender pelican]

It's great for GB/GBC which is why I'd like to see it in a 40XXV which is soo pretty

[graceful kiln]

406V in 40XXH blue would've gone hard tbh

[undone lake]

yeah, though if you want it for the crazy good gbc shaders that are integer mandatory like I did, those shaders also are slang only (in the case of the color one) or the slang version is better (in the case of the non-color one) so you need vulkan which the h700 doesn't have.

[slender pelican]

I guess DMG it is 🤡

[undone lake]

I'm curious if the 406h will somehow be pocketable in spite of not being flat/big sticks and if it will have good dpad ergo despite being stick top with no inset due to whatever magic they work on the back

people were claiming the dpad ergo on the cube wasn't that bad

[verbal kite]

406h gives me big odin lite mini vibes lol

[slender pelican]

Someone should use the Pocket DMG's screen in a more appropriately specced vertical.

[verbal kite]

Someone is magic x

[undone lake]

yeahhhh, it almost looks more like if you asked someone to draw an odin 2 mini (based only on the odin 2) than the o2mini does lol

[verbal kite]

But seriously it’s in the road map lol

[undone lake]

407v

next year

lol

or I guess 397v

[slender pelican]

For real?

[verbal kite]

Yah I’ll find

[undone lake]

magicX intends to use that oled yeah

also I'm pretty sure that oled is what taki is going to use for his fpga handheld.

[slender pelican]

Also I hope that that screen doesn't have scaling issues...

Or rather the devices that use it

[undone lake]

the good news from gamma's investigation is that it's confirmed whatever is wrong with the rp mini screen is not (purely) due to the pentile layout, the 556 screen is also pentile and doesn't have the issue.

[verbal kite]

Touch two 3.9 #1266817458417832110 message

[tepid plover]

i still am ... wiill do grey instead with great regret

[undone lake]

for a moment there I was worried that like 3/4 of oleds were going to be a write off for integer scaling and shaders instead of just one device

I was ready to hoard the last LCD devices to wait out for oled to come and go and then jump to whatever came after oled

sort of like how I've been buying last gen tech all over as soon as the next gen gives no meaningful improvements other than sticking NPUs in for AI slop.

[verbal kite]

I’m still a big lcd fan for anything besides like tv

[slender pelican]

BTW I hadn't realized how stupid good the Surface Duo 1 was for integer scaled SNES.

[verbal kite]

Oled gives me really bad eye strain lol

[undone lake]

"ok I'll just buy the last gen that wasn't overpriced AI trash you only made to appease shareholders and check back with you when this market crashes and nobody cares about AI to upgrade again. Good talk"

my response to basically every new cpu announced.

[tepid plover]

for me just whe i go full brightness

and i never do that

[verbal kite]

It’s more when I use a device before bed

And then try to shut my eyes

[undone lake]

I'm concerned about the eye stuff with oled, pwm dimming, etc but I haven't gotten to try any to see if I'm sensistive yet.

[verbal kite]

I feel like I have heat vision

[undone lake]

so whatever my first oled device is (was supposed to be the rp mini lol) would basically determine whether it's a no go, a must have, or an indifferent going forward.

[tepid plover]

yes ... my gfs tablet has been really bad for my sleep ... until i told her to take down the brighness when doomscrolling 😄

[verbal kite]

Jk that’s extreme but it’s more difficult to fall asleep lol

[undone lake]

I got myself a kindle specifically to prevent any backlit screen use while winding down

[verbal kite]

Yeah I use my kobo for reading and a y700 if I’m reading manga or comics

[undone lake]

the problem is it works too well so I don't get many pages done each night lmao

[verbal kite]

My iPad would be more of an issue so I sold it

[undone lake]

like the instant that kindle comes out I start falling asleep

[verbal kite]

I feel this so hard

It takes me forever to get passed prologues lmfao

I def wanna get a gooseneck for my kindle and tabs

Min max my sleep comfortability lmao

[undone lake]

with how often I've drifted off while holding the kindle just to be woken up by it hitting the floor that might be a smart buy for me too

[slender pelican]

I think I asked you about your recommendation for shaders but I can't seem to find it now

[verbal kite]

Yea exactly that reason

Buy it from Ali if you can. Amazon prices are absurd for something like that

Need a BT remote too

But then you can have neutral spine when reading 😆

[undone lake]

the crazy good one that basically sold me on the 406v is just called gameboy_color in the slang/handhelds folder but in order to use it you may have to switch your video renderer to vulkan (GL can't use slang shaders) and may have to then update your slang shaders via retroarch's online updater if it isn't there.

[slender pelican]

Yeah

[slender pelican]

Any changes to parameters? What about core options?

[undone lake]

I think you want to turn off color correction because the shader already does that

[verbal kite]

Oh cooool

[undone lake]

but maybe I'm just misremembering what my actual GBC looked like and everything is supposed to be that brown and undersaturated lol

I haven't messed with the shader params at all

[verbal kite]

That looks very good

[undone lake]

it looks good default to me

there's a gameboy_pocket one that is amazing for non-colour games too (and a DMG one but I had a pocket growing up not a DMG so...)

[slender pelican]

I prefer pocket to DMG for sure

[verbal kite]

It feels like such a miss for them to not do dmg on the 406

Are the cube buttons interchangeable

[undone lake]

honestly I might get psx buttons for my grey 406 lol

[slender pelican]

Soft green > radioactive

[undone lake]

lean in to the dualshock layout

[slender pelican]

Ugh I wanted PSX buttons for my Mini but I don't know if I'll even keep it

[undone lake]

don't buy based on my memory but I think they are?

[verbal kite]

Yea I think so too

[undone lake]

if the RP5 doesn't have the screen issue I might get one and get psx buttons for it.

in grey

[slender pelican]

In grey what?

[undone lake]

grey rp5 (the 16 bit one) but with black psx buttons

[slender pelican]

Oh

[undone lake]

to make it basically a ps1 themed psp

[slender pelican]

Yeah

I wanted black for the mini because of bezels...

I guess PS2 it is

[undone lake]

but yeah as long as I can confirm that the cube and 406v buttons are interchangable I might go with these buttons

[slender pelican]

It was black and PSX buttons, or black and orange highlights like the LE SDOLED

[undone lake]

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1718280283/rg405v406v-playstation-buttons-device?click_key=3a900ec6d7723ee01272a9b801e39e14bb80db4c%3A1718280283&click_sum=9d3b8a81&ref=shop_home_recs_7&frs=1&crt=1 oh they sell one specifically for the 405/406v

[slender pelican]

They don't sell backplates for the mini either

[tepid plover]

i call it thiccboy .... and with the woodgrain ... my 405v was the "thicc wood" 😛

[undone lake]

my mini was originally going to be orange but then when I saw the youtube clips of the white and black faceplates I changed to the red and black (and then eventually cancelled for unrelated personal emergency stuff)

[hexed bronze]

Not on their website, they might if you contact support

[slender pelican]

Everyday I'm regretting having gotten the Mini over the 5...I made the decision based on it being integer scaled 240p and 4:3 so you can imagine my disappointment.

[undone lake]

yeah the mini for me appealed due to actually having some inset for the sticks (still not like you get on the 406v though) and integer scaling home consoles

[slender pelican]

I mean like clear ones like the RP5.

[undone lake]

so given you can't currently integer scale on it I'm just sticking with the 406v until the dust settles

[hexed bronze]

Yeah they don’t have that

[slender pelican]

That makes sense

[undone lake]

1080p does actually work ok for integer scaling most home consoles that are really like 224p if you're ok with a slight vertical overscan

(and pillarboxing)

obviously not gonna give you perfect 2x integer scale dreamcast/ps2 like the mini would if the screen is fixed though

the main counterargument to the rp5 for me is that I already have an ally X

[slender pelican]

One thing though that the 406 line lacks that was also appealing from the Retroids is the linux support. I might end up going that way if I keep it.

[undone lake]

yeah, the unisoc stuff being stuck on android sucks

there are a lot of pros and cons to the mini vs 406h debate for sure

[slender pelican]

Yeah

[undone lake]

though I think I'd be firmly on team mini if they fix the screen

[slender pelican]

I thought it would be more of a slam dunk when the Mini was announced.

[undone lake]

(I mean, I already was on team mini before the screen issue arose)

[slender pelican]

I really enjoyed my 405M and wanted a good 4:3 successor.

It's great to have options at least.

[undone lake]

I wonder if 40xxV and 406v buttons are interchangable

if so I might get these mako buttons

[tepid plover]

i was kinda waitin for "ultimate 4:3 405M successor" for so long , that i ended up with combo of Cube . RPMini and plan 406V

i guess something from everything 😄

[undone lake]

and then none of those are as pocketable as the 405m lol

[tepid plover]

Mini is slighly thiccker .. so shouldnt be that much of a difference for my pockets

[undone lake]

I think my ideal device would be t610/618 tier power budget-ish device, flat slab with inline shoulders and fully recessed sticks, dpad top, 406 screen, linux.

[tepid plover]

i can pocket Cube pretty nicely 😄

[undone lake]

I am fine with devices having a large footprint for pocketing but protruding sticks/shoulders/ergo bumps bothers me

[oak timber]

405m sticks easily solved with a front case

[verbal kite]

I so badly want the rgb 10 max 4 to work out

[undone lake]

I would rather pocket an rgb10max3pro that is vita sized but flat over a 353vs which is gameboy pocket sized but has that shoulder shelf poking out.

[tepid plover]

question is if 406H will have the higher sticks that 406v has

[verbal kite]

But it feels like we are soooo far from 3588 progress

[undone lake]

I think honestly the sd865 supporting linux killed the max4

the 3588 is so power hungry to give very similar results.

[oak timber]

But 610 Linux probably won’t happen

[undone lake]

yeah I'm not expecting actual linux on unisoc, just giving a benchmark of my power requirements

[verbal kite]

Yeah I’m sure chip prices play a big part

[tepid plover]

i think i basically gave up searching on "ideal ultimate device" .... and went for "specialized devices for each usecase/niche"

[undone lake]

basically on a pocket device I'm not interested in going beyond psp/n64

[oak timber]

Yeah that’s why I’m very happy with my 405m

[undone lake]

but yeah if powkiddy reworked the max4 to be sd865 instead of 3588 I'd love that, or if retroid makes a flip 2 based on the rp5.

[oak timber]

It also plays my fav games on gcn, Luigi’s mansion and double dash

[undone lake]

something pocketable with an sd865 would be killer

just not sold on the mini being that even before the screen issues because of the ergo bumps, protruding sticks, and price

[winter anvil]

I mean, depends on the price. If an RK3588 device could be done for $150-ish and below, SD865 is no longer a threat IMO

I wouldn't buy it if it had bad thermals, but I think not a lot of people care about that

[undone lake]

true, if they could launch the max4 for $140 I'd even put up with kinda shit battery life as long as it didn't feel like I was trying to hold a hot frying pan while using it.

but not having it get hot in the hands might also involve fairly heavy fan use, and I have grown to absolutely loathe fan noise

[oak timber]

Again 405m no fan lol

It’s so close to what you want

[undone lake]

retro handhelds spoiled the hell out of me by being quiet while the lcd steam deck made me hate fans lol

if the 405m had the 406 screen and dpad on top it would be my perfect device lmao

or if the rp2s metal had the 406 screen

[winter anvil]

Huh, I came to believe hating fans is almost my personal quirk

I mean, I don't own a single piece of actively cooled portable electronics these days

Kinda hard to go back

[undone lake]

I almost bought a macbook air instead of a pro specifically because I love the idea of a fanless laptop but in the end I'm glad I went pro because the fan never kicks on anyway unless I'm doing something that would grind to a halt on an air lol

and the pro screen is gorgeous for shaders.

fan noise means the only acceptable x86 handhelds to me atm are the ally X or oled deck

and the fan on my 406v was turned on once just to make sure it worked lol

though honestly if it didn't work I don't think I would've bothered RMAing it since I never intend to use it.

I don't use my 406 for gc/ps2

so far I use it for link's awakening dx and sm64 lol

though I do intend to dig into a big psx rpg soon - debating between ff7 and chrono cross.

[tepid plover]

Tbh the ergo bumbs are part of what sold me vs my experience with RP3+ that were kinds painfull on my hands

My hands just don't like thin flat back devices like that or switch lite

[undone lake]

I like thick but flat devices

like the rgb10max3pro was actually so comfy to me

[tepid plover]

I am afraid to look that device up with such long name

[undone lake]

it has problems but it was basically a flat slab the size of a vita.

inline shoulders, recessed sticks

[lost turtle]

RG405M was super nice to hold despite being flat, because of the rounded sides, its a shame it had this metal shell and no active cooling, was getting so hot in my hands and also it was quite heavy tbh

[undone lake]

having those speaker grilles underneath the sticks meant the sticks actually weren't too far down to use comfortably either

I really hope the max3pro shell gets re-used in a good handheld tbh

[lost turtle]

I thinkl it wouldnt be comfy for me unfortunately, reminds me too much of switch lite/retroid3&4

Sony designers also knew what they were doing when designing PSP and Vita, they are so comfy to use because of the rounded sides

[undone lake]

I am also down with rounded sides

I just want it flat from the side view

this is the important part to me when it comes to a pocket device.

[lost turtle]

TBH i think inline shoulder buttons should work even better with the rounded sides

[undone lake]

but at any rate my pocket device these days is a 28xx so basically anything is gonna be less pocketable than that lol

[oak timber]

It hasn’t been too hot for me but I also don’t play for super long sessions. My 405m is my going out device

Longest I’ve played is maybe 45 mins

Luigi’s mansion at max performance. Didn’t get too hot. Warm yeah

[terse flame]

Symmetriccers btfo

No hype

[autumn sierra]

wuh

[undone lake]

I generally prefer dpad top fwiw

because no matter how powerful a device is the first thing I'm playing on it is SMB3 NES

[lusty condor]

35YYsp with the 640p 3:2 🤔

[full trench]

I want 406v so badly but I know I should just get a RP5 instead…

(although, for some reason, the 351p has peaked my interests, would love to tinker with 351droid)

[oak timber]

just wait for the 406H?

[half cedar]

Besides the RP Mini and 406H, are there any other 4:3 handhelds coming out soon?

[undone lake]

there is something to be said for having handhelds that spark joy by being odd/cute/'retro' looking imo

I had a 405v and an odin 2 pro at the same time and the 405v saw more use.

[oak timber]

thats the reason i just got an rg35xxsp. it looks exactly like a GBA SP

[full trench]

yeah I have a 405v as well, not sure what’d I do with it if I do get a 406v

[oak timber]

hit the ol' buy and sell

[lusty condor]

Trimui brick

[normal trout]

I'm debating on selling my 405v

Its served me well and is sentimental cuz it was my first handheld in the hobby. But it also has no use for me anymore

[oak timber]

406h is on the handheld spreadsheet now

[undone lake]

the 405v to 406v upgrade is a tough call - the upgraded sticks, shoulders, screen are all great

[oak timber]

access to more PS2 as well

[undone lake]

but t618 to t820 is not exactly a huge upgrade on a device that frankly is never going to be a perfect ps2/gc device compared to a retroid or something - it doesn't even have analog triggers.

like if I still had my 405v upgrading to 406 vs saving up for an RP5 to compliment it would be a tough sell

even now with the 406v in my house I'm seriously considering an rp5 as well.

[normal trout]

What are you on about, t816 to t820 is a great upgrade

[undone lake]

it is a decent chunk more powerful, but not what I would want if I was specifically buying for GC/PS2

[full trench]

I’m with the sniffer, from what I’ve seen, 3ds/Wii/GC is unbelievably better than on the t820 than on t618

[undone lake]

yeah I have no interest in playing 3ds, wii, or gc on my 406v

so for me the chip upgrade was a minor bonus I wouldn't pay money for, I upgraded for the controls and screen

[half cedar]

We need an Odin 2 of 4:3 devices

Retroid Pocket Mini Plus

[undone lake]

#1139926082640941116 lol

[half cedar]

RG406 Pro

[undone lake]

(don't buy that, it's basically a scam)

[oak timber]

4-4.3" 720p OLED 4:3 ?

[full trench]

fun fact: 3ds’s top screen is actually bigger on 406v than the cube

[undone lake]

'better than t618 for gamecube/ps2/wii/3ds' - agreed

'good enough to buy for gamecube/ps2/wii/3ds when snapdragon chips are available' is an ehhhhhhhh from me

[oak timber]

i feel like 4" is the biggest a pocketable 4:3 can go

[half cedar]

GameConsole R69S

[oak timber]

and i still want pocketable

[undone lake]

I bought the 406v to basically be endgame for fifth gen and handhelds

like the 406v even looks good for psp

3.8" at a perfect 2x integer - basically a psp go

[full trench]

like what, the rp mini?

[undone lake]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-shocked-omg-face-small-gif-8054143

unfortunately the screen sizes and specs I would want in a sixth gen and up handheld also means living with widescreens atm

[oak timber]

865 does seem to be "the" chipset for PS2

[undone lake]

like the rp5 supposedly doesn't have the scaling issues of the mini and gives you 4.5" of 4:3

[oak timber]

rp5 aint pocketable tho

[undone lake]

neither is the 406v lol

I love the 406v but I am not putting that in my jeans

[full trench]

technically incorrect

[undone lake]

[oak timber]

oh, im referring to the 405m

[full trench]

I would never put one in my pocket though, but I will say it’s possible

[oak timber]

thats my gold standard lol

[full trench]

405m was a better retroid pocket 2+

lol im kidding the rp2+ created the standard for retro handhelds in the future

its peak

[undone lake]

yeah if anbernic would make a pocketable t820 then that pocketable t820 would have being pocketable as a point in its favour vs an rp5

but so far they seem uninterested in making a flat pocketable t820

[full trench]

tbh even if they do make a pocketable handheld id never put something so unbelievably high quality/powerful in my pocket

Pocket the RG35XXsp? Yeah man, I wanna do it.

Pocket the Retroid pocket mini? No.

the existence of lint:

too much pressure:

exposed thumbsticks:

Best I could do is pocket the rpflip, but he’s dead.

[oak timber]

well rg405m only cost me a hundo so i have no issues pocketing it lol. my phone cost way more

[full trench]

phones are phones, don’t care that much about em, yeah I’ll take really good care of em, but not HANDHELD care of them

[oak timber]

yeah but you mentioned cost as a pocket factor

you keep your phone in your pocket dont you

[full trench]

i mean kinda? i said quality, like why am i gonna put the rp mini: a device with a premium full glass display, very good plastic (from what I’ve heard), other things i dont care to mention… in my dusty.. linty.. POCKET!!! No.

and im not going to clean my pockets just for my handheld lol

i could do a 35xxsp tho, mostly because its a clamshell

[oak timber]

oh, I toss my 405m in the bag my steam deck came w/ (for the power adapter). it fits like a glove. then that goes into my pocket

no lint, no worry about the sticks.

[full trench]

yeah personally i wouldnt put a 405m in my pocket just like that

yeah idk man, like ill pocket a 35xx plus or rp2+ but not an RP2s or ayaneo pocket micro

yes im naming random handhelds at this point but like- yeah

[oak timber]

some people have a snap case that goes on the front.

and then when you play its reversible as a grip

[hallow charm]

My Odin 2 has crushed any interest in more recent widescreen devices, all my smaller handhelds are complimentary options to it.

[undone lake]

I feel that

it's hard for me to justify an RP5 when I have an ally X even with it being like a third the weight and much smaller (and oled)

[autumn sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-prowler-meme-gif-9158815008828746045

its an insane upgrade

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[autumn sierra]

genuinely there were so many games that couldnt run on the 618 😭

the kirby games barely ran
i couldnt play any ncaa football game

i couldnt upscale 3ds games do you know how crusty native 3ds games are

[undone lake]

I think what I'm saying didn't come across correctly - I'm not saying it's not a decent spec bump, I'm saying it's a spec bump on a device that isn't gonna be perfect for ps2/gc anyway due to controls and form factor limitations

[autumn sierra]

[oak timber]

but the 406h should have analog triggers

and will be a good form factor for PS2/gcn

[autumn sierra]

it prolly will

[undone lake]

yes, the 406h would be more suitable for ps2/gc than a 406v.

I was replying to someone who already has a 405v and was debating upgrading to 406v

[autumn sierra]

i think the screen upgrade is worth it alone

[undone lake]

I would agree if you primarily want to play retro stuff the screen + controls upgrades are great

but if you want to play GC/PS2 I think you can do better than the 406v. Keep your 405v for retro stuff and get a 556, an rp5, etc

or even the 406h

[tepid plover]

i am already pretty decided on seelling 405 .... i am just being sad about the loss of wood

[full trench]

How so?

[oak timber]

analog triggers for one

[terse flame]

Top stick 💪

[oak timber]

and top stick, yeah

[full trench]

the first reason is debatable, the second.. absolutely not. (PS layout forever!!!!)

[undone lake]

Yeah I love the stick position on the 406v but digital triggers

[terse flame]

https://tenor.com/view/narc-copium-spoon-gif-23613894

[tepid plover]

i guess that depends on what kind of gaames you plan to play the most imo

[final valve]

Is this a real pic? The right handle seems wider than the left

[autumn sierra]

prototype shell + angle ig

[hexed bronze]

as real as it gets

[undone lake]

I've been burned too many times by playing what I think is gonna be a game that doesn't need X input the original console had (pressure sensitive buttons, stacked vertical DS screens, analog triggers, sticks at all in some cases, etc) and then running into a weird segment partway through or a minigame that uses them.

like stardew valley in portmaster, you don't need analog sticks until you go to place buildings on your farm and then you're boned

[tepid plover]

hmmmm

wasnt most of these basicaly a gimmicks at the time?

like even the analog triggers on GC i found to be super rare 🤔

[graceful kiln]

Racing games are the big ones that use them

[tepid plover]

yes exactly

[graceful kiln]

And Mario Sunshine, though you really only need to map one shoulder to a light press and one to a full press

[tepid plover]

but outside of them .... mario sunshine with half and fullpress

and then i have hard time remembering another one 🤔

as for pressure sensitive ... i only really remember some konami stuff (MGS and SH)

[undone lake]

yeah the problem is that the main PS2 games I want to try are MGS2, MGS3, and SH2.

like none of the final fantasy PS2 games randomly throw in minigames that use the analog inputs?

[tepid plover]

RIP 😄

thats were my "just play the newest version thats available to me" rule kinda helps 😄

i usually dont even keep roms of titles that have better version released on newer platform ..... like i just deleted my RPCS3 rom of Lollipop Chainsaw with the RePoP's release

(which exceptions of most switch remakes who have half the framerate than the original games)

[undone lake]

I usually try to play originals over remasters/remakes lol

unless the original is just too bad

[tepid plover]

well i did get back into the rmulation rabbit hole only like two years ago after more than a decade of ignoring it 😄

[undone lake]

I did basically the same thing

the steam deck got me back into emulation lol

[tepid plover]

pretty much yeah 😄

it also got me to actually play the buttload of indies i bough in bundles over the years 😄

[undone lake]

this too

less time spent playing league of legends, more time spent playing actually fun games lmao

[tepid plover]

i basically stopped playing the MP stuff altogether the moment i got my degree

never looked back

[tepid plover]

back to this .... i mainly really plan to upgrade 405v to 406v ... thx to the screen res and sticks 😄 the fact it can do bunch of ps2/g ...is just a bonus

[undone lake]

Yeah the 406v is amazing

One screen integer scales GBC, gba, and psp.

To getting a more golden res for retro you would have to go up to 1440p 4:3 so it does everything this screen does (just 2x more) and also integer scales 480p

[tepid plover]

Og ibshould mess around with my LeGo for emulation

[undone lake]

Integer scales gba lol

Perfect 10x

[mortal garden]

sucks

dont tell lies

[brave oar]

So what we thinking? in time for 🎄 ? A perfect little n64 4:3 stick top beauty?

[undone lake]

I will die on the hill that anything that uses the right stick for c buttons will never be perfect for n64

[slender pelican]

You can get a Surface Duo

[undone lake]

samsung fold is tempting

but $$$$$$

[slender pelican]

It's pretty kick ass for sure

[hallow charm]

Weirdly, after emulation on the steamdeck I ended up buying a switch and numerous handhelds and it mostly went back to playing my steam backlog in work instead.

[tepid plover]

what works works 😄

[half cedar]

Is there a user here who can confidently say they own more handhelds than anyone else here?

I'd be curious to know what they use most often

[twin kestrel]

check #🏆│device-showcase theres probably at least 1

[noble tiger]

I own more than 70

[prime hound]

Based on the pictures and the known screen size, did anybody try to calculate the expected console size ?

[elder sandal]

I was pondering yesterday's discussion here and yeah, the T820 is never going to be perfect for GameCube and PS2, but I do think it's good enough for most folks; and perfect is the enemy of good enough. You do have to jump through a few hoops setting it up, like going with NetherSX2 Classic for best PS2 performance and Dolphin MMJR Revamp for the best GameCube and Wii performance, but once you get the particular emulator versions that the T820 likes best all set-up it plays the whole GameCube library pretty great and the vast majority of PS2 and Wii games as well. You'll still run into some compatibility issues here and there with PS2 and Wii, so it's not perfect, but I do think it's good enough and really solid value at around $160. If you want perfect then spend $300+ on an Odin 2 lol

[prime hound]

I've made this picture upright and performed measurements. This console, based on the 4" screen diagonal size, should be about 16.9cm wide and 8cm high. That would be a bounding box area of 135cm2.

That's 6% more than the RPM (127cm2) and 13% less than the RP5 (156cm2).

These 13% compare to the 26% larger area of the 4:3-only portion of the RP5 screen (or 21% smaller 4:3 area of the RG406H).

[undone lake]

sorry, you're saying the rp5 has a better screen to body ratio even if you only count the 4:3 portion of the rp5 screen?

[prime hound]

I'm not directly stating anything about body ratios here, while you indeed may infer it based on my raw numbers.

But indeed, the RP5 has a better 4:3 display to body ratio than the depicted console, while having a 16:9 screen.

This console shows significant black bezels arround the display area, which hurts display to body ratio.

It is less apparent than on the RPM because the bezels are black.

That beeing said, if Anbernic sells it close enough to $150, it will be a great option.

[normal trout]

I'm certainly interested in that frosty clear

Gives me big glacier GBA vibes

[oblique jungle]

I’ve been waiting for a handheld with that exact colorway since I got into the hobby, and it had to happen right after I got an RP Mini and have no valid excuse to own one of these as well

I also own a cube so getting this would be doubly foolish

[hexed bronze]

Especially with the RP Mini might being able to display shaders correctly after being updated

[keen shard]

Bazzite will come in clutch for the rpmini

[tepid plover]

Get the thicc boy 406v || like me who also has cube and soon RPM ||

[oblique jungle]

I also own a 405V so that one would be triply foolish

[tepid plover]

I do too but only for like nextweek

My thicc Wood will be moving to new home

[undone lake]

I'm torn between getting a mini (now that it's gonna get fixed) or a 5 to compliment my 406v

or holding the line and waiting for a potential flip 2

[half cedar]

To anyone here, what's your price prediction for the 406H?

[covert ibex]

Hopefully ~150 and below

[half cedar]

I was thinking $180 originally because that was the price of the 405M at launch, but considering you'd be able to get a Snapdragon 865 for just a bit more and the 406V is $138 right now, I'm thinking it'll likely be cheaper than the 405M was originally

Especially since it'll be plastic now instead of metal

[modest pumice]

I’m sure it’ll be the same price as the 406V, so $160-165 or so

[hexed zealot]

$160 or below is reasonable to me. If it goes over then, well, it just means the best compact GC/PS2 handheld has yet to come.

[sharp fox]

Let’s face it, no one is sitting down with a single handheld and playing through the whole GC/PS2 library.

Heck some of yall won’t beat a single game on this before buying the next device

[sharp fox]

Bazzite on arm? Only Linux build I heard is coming to rpmini are things like rocknix and batocera

[undone lake]

obviously if you take that to the extreme you could say "there's an entire lifetime of games just on snes and genesis, no reason to buy anything better than a $35 including shipping rgb10x"

[autumn sierra]

genuinely

sometimes ur in the mood for a snes game

or a ps2 game

[sharp fox]

I mean like there’s seemingly a trend to consider gc and ps2 off the table if it’s not 100% with horsepower to spare.

Which is funny thinking back to the rp2+ days and people being like “pocket GameCube???” When 10% of games could run at .5x

Shows how far this space has come, and our standards with it

[autumn sierra]

whats funny is the same people have a steamdeck, and ally x, and like other shit

[sharp fox]

lol I got an Ally x and an rg28xx within a few days of each other, guess which has gotten more play time

[autumn sierra]

rp2s

[sharp fox]

2S is actually somewhat solid for GC with tweaks, I mean that 2+ like the upgrade kit to the 2

[wispy cipher]

flip 2 gon go crazy

[oak timber]

Me with 405m and steam deck.

[twin kestrel]

wonder how much this would cost vs the 556 and cube

[keen shard]

🤫

[sharp fox]

Are you frfr?

[keen shard]

check dms

[glass sentinel]

not really a secret lol

[elder sandal]

This is true. Most of the time I play my flagship handheld until I either find out that it's too heavy for the tendon damage in my left arm to handle or bump into a game I want to play that it's not powerful enough to run well, then sell it and buy something more powerful lol

The RG556 has been the weird exception, since even though it's not powerful enough to run a couple games I really enjoy perfectly I just love the ergonomics and the screen so much that I've kept using it anyway; since it'll still play the vast majority of higher end stuff. I'd rather have a comfy handheld with a great screen that I can play for hours without discomfort and enjoy most GameCube/PS2/Wii games on than a more powerful handheld that can play everything but makes my arm start screaming at me after 20 minutes. RIP Steam Deck & Odin 2.

[slender pelican]

Crazy if accurate

[undone lake]

I did the math, checks out

the RP5 also has a better 4:3 display to body ratio than the RP mini

the overall display to body ratio (at 16:9) is insane, it's like 53% screen

so at 4:3 that drops to 40% but the rp mini is 33%

[autumn sierra]

🤔 or put 4:3 games to 3:2

[undone lake]

I can't abide by stretching at least beyond like 4% or less to hit an integer but any home console meant for CRT is usually open for a bit of overscan

[tepid plover]

Wait we are soing this again with the ratio math .... i fel we are circlixng to this like twice a wek?

[undone lake]

like I'll overscan 8:7 snes horizontally on the 720x720 square screen (basically making it 240x224 at a perfect 3x integer) or overscan '4:3' snes on 1080p with 6x horizontal and 5x vertical (so it's 1536x1120 cropped to 1536x1080 - but that winds up actually a hair wider than 4:3)

all kinds of ways to make the same system work on different screens

but a hair wider than 4:3 plus some vertical overscan lets you fill more of a 16:9 than you might normally associate with snes

without any major stretch

just like 3% stretch (from 4:3, obviously more from the native 8:7) and like 3.5% vertical overscan (well within safe bounds)

handheld systems are a bit trickier since they obviously don't allow for overscan and have oddball resolutions which is where the 406v/h screen absolutely shines

never seen a screen that integer scales gbc+gba+psp on the same display before

3.6" gameboy, 3.7" psp, 3.8" gba, even lets you do gamegear both integer and 4:3 (6x horizontal 5x vertical) so you don't have to choose between clear pixels or the anamorphic 4:3 of the original

[undone lake]

tbf they literally made the 960x720 screen that integer scaling nerds have been asking for since retro handhelds become a thing

so I think integer scaling is gonna come up a lot in 406v/h discussions

this is a 'just as the ancient prophecy foretold' tier screen res

[tepid plover]

Up until we get the 1440p in few years

[undone lake]

yeah if we can get a 1440p 4:3

[oak timber]

PSP looks good on my 405m with 89% overfill on ppsspp

[keen shard]

Only the thought

[undone lake]

a bunch of the things this screen integers well integers to the 960 horizontal not the 720 vertical (psp, gba, genesis) so 1440p wide doesn't give you the same effect

[oak timber]

It stretches it just a bit too and bottom

[undone lake]

yeah when you get into 3d games there are always widescreen/tallscreen hacks to change the viewfield without just stretching the emulated output

I'd also say for me personally I stop caring about integer scaling for 3d systems

or we just 4k everything and stop caring about integer scaling

[oak timber]

I find myself playing psp a lot so I mentioned it, some people say 4:3 is bad for psp

[undone lake]

I don’t mind it on a 4” 4:3

Winds up psp go sized even if you don’t do anything with overfill

[tepid plover]

Will be probably mesinh around with it too when I finally order the 406v

[undone lake]

The 406v is so nice for GBC/gba/gb grid shaders

Holyyyy

[blissful socket]

I'm considering if I should get this, the CubeXX or RP Mini or 5

[autumn sierra]

just wait until the 406h gets revealed then decide

[undone lake]

those are very different handhelds

the rp mini is the only direct competitor to this you listed

[blissful socket]

I consider all for playing 4:3 games

primarily

and then there's ergonomics I really like on the Cube

[undone lake]

yeah the mini and the 406h are both 4:3 which means no pillar/letterboxing for 4:3 while you will have letterboxing on the cube or pillarboxing on the 5 but if you're fine with black bars the sizes go 3.5" for 4:3 on the cube, 3.7" on the mini, 4" on this, and 4.5" for 4:3 on the rp 5

Personally I find letterboxing less bothersome than pillarboxing but 3.5" is still on a small side for 3d games for me and also oled pillar/letter boxing bothers me less than lcd (because those portions of screen that are unused will be fully unlit instead of that 'dark grey but still very much backlit' of a letter/pillarbox on lcd

I guess what I'm saying is don't get the cube unless you specifically want a 1:1 screen

[blissful socket]

I'm the same

[blissful socket]

well... I enjoyed the handheld systems on it even and the 16-bit home video game consoles

but then I was... I don't need the Android version for the games I enjoy playing on it

[tepid plover]

For me it depends on a device and doesnt really.mattwe if 2d or 3d games

• I don't mind letterboxes on wide devices (psp on drck) ,but pillarboxes bother me a lot even with perfect oled black (4:3 on deck)
• similarly i don't mind pillarboxes on tall/squarey devices (like NDS on the Cube), but letterboxes bother me a lot (like psp or even 4:3 on the cube)

[blissful socket]

I wouldn't really enjoy playing psp on the cube either

[undone lake]

I don't understand your first point - gba on the o2 and 4:3 on the deck would both be examples of pillarboxing

the deck would have slight letterboxing on psp because 16:9 game on 16:10 screen but I don't know how you would get letterboxing on the o2

[blissful socket]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizarre-adventure-gif-11387564

(it's the pillar men)

[oak timber]

How do I select shaders in RetroArch gba?

On gammaos it’s only letting me pick the default shader

[tepid plover]

Oh lol ffs by bas , I meant psp

That's what happens when you rewrite a sentece too many times whole thinking and ot release whole finsl thing

[grim spire]

Wonder if we’re getting an announcement for this one this week?

If I remember right the Cube and 406V both had a pretty quick announcement turnaround from when in hand leak images came out, and we already have that for this so

[elder sandal]

I sure hope so! In terms of sales potential I'm sure Anbernic would like to launch it before 11/11 if they can, since that's such a big shopping day in China. Basically their Black Friday.

[sharp fox]

https://tenor.com/view/test-tube-national-geographic-careful-inspection-taking-a-look-check-it-out-gif-19133906

[undone lake]

its very dumb that the best gamegear screen we have ever had is only available on something that is stick top (and not released yet) or a giant gameboy but hey, we'll probably get a 40yyH or something next year with this screen for a new generation of budget handhelds lol

[graceful lantern]

or we will be in the XX line forever

[versed walrus]

I vote Anbernic starts adding another X in the new generation, whenever that comes. Rg35xxxsp, rg35xxx+, rg35xxxh, rg40xxx etcetera

[slender pelican]

What's the purported RG406P body to screen ratio?

[slender pelican]

Pocket S

Actually no, PSP gets close but it's not full screen

[undone lake]

this is based on unofficial numbers (someone else determined footprint off of the screen measurement) but the result is 36.5%

roughly halfway between the RP5 running 4:3 and the rp mini

[undone lake]

still a good catch though because I for some reason didn't realize 1440 integer scaled gba vertically

I was just writing off 1440 wide for gba because 720 4:3 relies on scaling it horizontally

actually kinda wild that both 1440p and its 16:10 equivalent of 1600p integer scales GBA

[slender pelican]

Yeah

[undone lake]

but I guess that's what happens when you're going from 9x on 16:9 to 10x on 16:10

the same thing would happen with 240p on 4k (2160 pixels high) to the 16:10 equivalent of that (2400p)

[slender pelican]

1440p is better because it scales for home consoles too (and GBC)

[undone lake]

yeah you're stuck choosing between better ratio or better res for 4:3

[slender pelican]

It's really nice, albeit with pillar boxing

For most systems

[undone lake]

2400p would be amazing in that regard I think

I guess it doesn't integer GBC lol

but it does do 10x 240p and 15x gba

(realistically once you get above 1440 on a handheld/tablet sized device you really shouldn't need integer outside of extremely intensive crt emulation)

[slender pelican]

Yeah

Here's hoping that the coming years see 1440p OLED normalized with crazy body to screen ratio

[undone lake]

and even then the glory of CRT designed games is that a bit of overscan is fine so you can just integer and crop a bit instead of dealing with letterboxing if the letterboxing is big

the only way you're gonna lose too much via overscan is if you'd lose almost nothing with regular integer - the percentage that makes up 0.5x either way is so small at that point

my laptop is 1890 below the camera notch which doesn't integer scale anything AFAICT by itself, but for home consoles I just overscan

[prime hound]

Interesting about overscan for CRT consoles : https://www.nesdev.org/wiki/Overscan

5% overscan is very safe, especially for top plus bottom.

[prime hound]

I've done quick calculations of display ratios based on my estimated RG406H size : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ5EtVJ7ncex2Vjj-CYiXdwvoKC_OFlF/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110274202085153636996&rtpof=true&sd=true

Values in bold are meant to be changed.

These are the 4:3 display to body ratios of a couple of current consoles :

40% RP5
31% Ayaneo DMG
33% RP Mini
33% RG406V
37% RG406H

[undone lake]

Huh. Somehow I got 36.5% for the 406h when I did it but my numbers for the mini and rp5 match yours perfectly

The 406v has a better screen to body ratio than the H?

I didn’t even do the math on the V because I assumed it would be bad lol

[prime hound]

EDIT : did swap V and H

[undone lake]

Ah ok lol

Interesting that the 406V ties the rp mini for screen to body

[prime hound]

That's when considering the consoles bounding boxes as the consoles sizes. But they have rounded corners, especially the Retroids.

So I've tried to approximately yet fairly substract the rounded corners... (no troll)

43% RP5
31% Ayaneo DMG
36% RP Mini
34% RG406V
37% RG406H

I've not triple checked but my numbers but they fit with yours above, @undone lake (the 33% and 40% for RPM and RP5)

[undone lake]

Yeah I’ve been just doing a naive width times height for the bodies

Which does unfairly ding the rp5 which already was winning by a mile lmao

And if corrected for does potentially put the mini ahead of the fat gameboy

[prime hound]

As a synthesis, I would say that RPM and RG406H have very similar 4:3 display to body ratios, and the RP5 is significantly ahead.

[undone lake]

Oh right I was gonna say it’s interesting to see such a low number for the ayaneo dmg but it’s not 4:3 so I assume you’re only measuring the 4:3 area there too

So it scores better for 8:7 snes enjoyers lol

[prime hound]

Yes, the DMG will have black bars for 4:3. Small bars but yet.

Of course. I xan calculate that if yiou want 😉

That's for 8:7, taking rounded corners into account.

37% RP5
35% Ayaneo DMG
31% RP Mini
29% RG406V
32% RG406H

[undone lake]

Lol, at a certain point it just turns into calculating screen height vs total body area if we keep going in that direction

And then the RGB30 wins by a mile

That thing is like all screen

[prime hound]

I've not added the RGB30 but the RGCube to get an idea :

37% RP5
35% Ayaneo DMG
31% RP Mini
36% RG Cube
29% RG406V
32% RG406H

Rounded corners taken into account. Impressive how the RP5 competes with a square screen console even for displaying 8:7 content !

When not compensating for rounded corners...

34% RP5
35% Ayaneo DMG
28% RP Mini
35% RG Cube
28% RG406V
32% RG406H

And that's for PSP, rounded corners substracted from device surface ... 😉

58% RP5
23% Ayaneo DMG
27% RP Mini
23% RG Cube
26% RG406V
28% RG406H

[undone lake]

haha

I actually don't mind psp on the 406v but part of that is 'it's ok for handheld systems to give me a smaller display area than home consoles'

[half cedar]

RG406 SP when

The 556 was announced 10 months ago, maybe it's time to start looking forward to the 7th gen at this point

[tepid plover]

shush we need 556SP

[elder sandal]

Or a 556 Plus with them new sticks and a little performance boost >.>

[autumn sierra]

mayne the 406h will be the 407H....

[keen rover]

GoGameGeek confirmed the existence of both a P and an H to me, but can't disclose other details yet

This thread back to P, then make a new H one? Thoughts?

Anbernic RG406P

Anbernic RG406P & H

Hell we know we'll get Upcoming channels soon, let's combine rumor channel for simplicity until then

[keen shard]

better

[slate smelt]

what is p vs h? I thought those were the same

different stick k placement?

[icy parrot]

nobody knows

p is plastic, h is horizontal

p would imply a metal version to be made, yet doing a h version alongside it seems weird

[keen rover]

It is very confusing and I have no idea yet either 😆

[keen shard]

i vote for this chemistry reference

[half cedar]

RG406HP

It was a Windows handheld all along

[slate smelt]

The P is actually a big circle, neither horizontal nor vertical

[autumn sierra]

the p stands for pingu

[tepid plover]

its obvious

P is live action lewds, H is japanese cartoon lewds

[icy parrot]

I will get the Japanese cartoon lewds version

[unborn yacht]

What the?

[unborn yacht]

God, I'd be all over that.

[manic grove]

P = Arc Pro???

[final valve]

P = dpad bottom
H = dpad top

[tepid plover]

P= plastic
H= sodium hydroxide

[icy parrot]

would be really nice if we can get a d-pad top one

[glossy ore]

Wait, there's two of them now?

[icy parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-sith-gif-11488732

[tepid plover]

Well , technically 3 , 406v also exists

[twin kestrel]

wait what happened to the title

im down for a top dpad anbernic please

[tepid plover]

Dpad-right please

[icy parrot]

that's old and collecting dust at this point

[twin kestrel]

for all the dpad haters

[keen shard]

jesus christ

[hallow charm]

defective device, it still has the buttons that could be replaced. 😄

[twin kestrel]

if you must

[half cedar]

Buttons are the past, where are my handhelds with only touch screen controls

[twin kestrel]

you mean

a smartphone

[half cedar]

A what? You sound insane

[grim spire]

I think I speak for all of America when I say that the most anticipated event this week is the potential RG406 H & P announcements. Let’s see it Anbernic

[elder sandal]

Next you'll be telling us there's going to be an RG406T and RG406A, depending on whether you want the ergonomic bump outs on the front or the back!

[winter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-i-hope-so-please-please-gif-19730905

[hexed zealot]

RG406PHAT

Or RG406THICC 😏

[undone lake]

This is where I’m at.

[winter anvil]

As much as I want P to be Arc Pro, it wouldn‘t make sense for them to not call it an Arc something

So I would guess H is the long Cube we‘ve seen, and P is the candybar design we‘ve seen on the patent pictures

Which is weird too, but sounds more consistent

[hexed zealot]

It does seem a bit weird to release both of them at the same time, or close to each other. But if that was really the case I would definitely choose the design in the patent images.

[winter anvil]

Another option, combining all we‘ve heard so far is for P to have a different aspect ratio than 4:3, because releasing two identical devices at the same time is too much even for Anbernic

That would make P and H kinda like Mini and RP5

And then the P could have the 1200x800 screen Max mentioned maybe once in the past

(of course third option is to just castrate P in some way, like give it the 640x480 screen or something)

And yeah, the patent does say 406P

[hexed bronze]

1200x800p would be epic

Dpad on top though

[winter anvil]

Pffft, impossiburu

[hexed bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-13328108869509964634

[oak timber]

Just when I was getting comfy on my 405m… they do this

If 406p is same style as 405m… but with T820 and 720p screen lawd…

[undone lake]

this guy looks kinda like that patent

different dpad obviously

so I assume that means we're getting something else alongside?

[winter anvil]

Different dpad and shoulder buttons, likely also no ergo bumps

Then again, how thin can you really make it without removing the fan?

Dunno, releasing the long cube and the patent one at the same time sounds really redundant, but Anbernic is like the king of redundancy

[winter stratus]

There's no way they will make two of these with the only difference being the shell's shape. Like, the ONLY difference. If the other were M or something that's still more difference than the P and the H imply

[oak timber]

Yeah idk how they’re gonna make two of these

Flat 405m design with inline shoulders and top dpad? And wide rg cube design top stick?

[undone lake]

yeah obviously one is just wide cube, to make the other one different enough to be worthwhile I am expecting either flat with top dpad + inline shoulders for pocketing/retro focus or maybe an arc type design.

[tepid plover]

the P and H will be something similar to what they did with arc's S and D ... i wouldnt really expect big HW difference

[tepid plover]

although this is anbernic ... they can be super random at times

[kind raven]

cmon do a dpad top flat back inline shoulders Anbernic. I'm still rocking my 353M, would love a more powerful replacement for it

[undone lake]

I can’t wait to see what they do for their next gen of budget stuff beyond the h700 tbh

[tepid geyser]

what would be the screen size though?

[undone lake]

If it’s “406” that implies a 4.0” screen and the t820

[elder sandal]

It'll definitely be interesting to see where Anbernic goes next year. I can't possibly imagine them being able to replicate the same release schedule as this year with a new handheld every month. They've nearly exhausted the form factor options for the budget sector and I wonder if they're just going to stick with their currently available H700 devices for the budget market in 2025 or roll out a whole new line of another dozen devices with a new chipset next year. Personally I think they should stick with what they've got in the H700 line, since they've pretty much got the budget sector on lockdown, and focus their 2025 efforts on mid to high end devices. They can do better than the T820 and Win 600.

[tepid geyser]

a 4 inch 1200x800 screen would be amazing

360ppi

also 3.8 inch psp content

on par with psp go

just gotta hope it's dpad on top

but where did you get the information that it's gonna be 1200x800? Is it just speculation?

[twin kestrel]

should be this one @tepid geyser i think

[tepid geyser]

Oh wow, big if true

[twin kestrel]

i hope so but im not particular with the resolution, even 640x480 is fine by me if it means i can get a top dpad variant of this

[winter anvil]

Yeah, mid-range 3:2 would be cool, and it‘s the one niche Anbernic doesn‘t cover

[tepid plover]

hmm .... my current 3:2 plan is to go OGA=>Touch One ... but 4" 3:2 could be intruiging aswell

[hallow charm]

Dual releases would be mad, but would be worth it if one was a 3:2, especially a high-end one like this.

[twin kestrel]

3:2 inline shoulder top dpad flat
4:3 stacked shoulder top stick ergonomic

[lost turtle]

Do you guys think they are really releasing both? Or is it mistake on ggg side? I would assume so, the naming would be super confiusing. They should name 3:2 device RG ADVANCE or sth. I still think rg406h and p is the same device, they probably got confused because both names were used by Anbernic Rep or something like this

[winged crest]

I know this is a rumor thread but let Anbernic cook , it's all fun speculating what this might be but some people make it sound like it's a life or death situation .
Does Anbernic even listen to customer feedback anyway ?

Whatever it P or H might or might not be

It's the friends we made along the way not dozen different handhelds they are making

[tepid plover]

P for Plastic ...... H fo Hafnium aka metal alloy || used in nuclear submarines ||

[winged crest]

P for Prudis and H for Hopium

[tepid plover]

just hoping they reveal it soon ... for curiosity's sake

my RPMini just arrived .... and plan to get 406v in 11.11 sale ... but would like to see this before i order the V

[winged crest]

Well see how this all plays out , how you liking the Mini ? Too Mini ?
Almost bought one but it desperately needs a bigger 4" screen , I actually wouldn't mind seeing them make a version with the same screen on the 406V

[tepid plover]

too soon to say ... will mess around with it after work ... but so far liking it a lot

[lost turtle]

Pls write your impressions about RPMini, also super curious about it,

Also didnt buy it because of the screen size, probbaly will buy RP5 and RG406h/p

[tepid plover]

i bsaically decided that i would rahter have higher res oled and better SoC ... than 0,3" of the screen after waiting for successor to 405m for this long 😄

[winged crest]

I basically love everything on the Mini besides the small ass screen even knowing how much I like OLED I skipped just for that reason

[lost turtle]

thats why i'm curious saw some impressions on rp5 I'm super hyped about it and Mini has the same SoC 😉

[lost turtle]

RP5 is also very small but with the huge screen (amazing screen to body ratio), if you can live with the pillarboxing it should be pretty sweet

[tepid plover]

yeah depends if one likes few more inch fractions or oled more

for me at the range i play ... the colours are much bigger deal than screen than slighly bigger screen

buti can understand if someone has loong arms and bad eyesight it can be a problem

[winged crest]

Here's the thing I already have a O2 which is significantly larger but both of them are still not pocketable ( RP5 ) . The Mini could of potentially fixed that but I just can't do smaller than a 4" screen

[lost turtle]

ah yeah, I wouldnt buy it either if I had O2

[tepid plover]

so far love the colours in mini

[lost turtle]

But for me Odin 2 was too big as I already have Steam Deck to use at home 😉

[winged crest]

Eh I don't mind the SD size , while I do think its large I think most people make a bigger deal out of that than it actually is , I find it super comfy but that's besides the point

[blissful socket]

The game gear is also very comfy 😛

[winged crest]

And eats AAA batteries for breakfast

[blissful socket]

I have a modded one with 2 rechargeable batteries 😛

[winged crest]

I had one a very long time ago but have zero interest getting another

[blissful socket]

It was one of the first I got for myself now that I'm older and have a job

I have an O2 too but perfer something smaller

So now I wait...

[lusty condor]

It would be amazing if the 406p was an evolution of the 353p. And keep the generic candy bar design for the 406h

[undone lake]

just a massive super nintendo dog bone

to play ps2 on

[oak timber]

noooo, keep the candy bar design for 406p, since we already know the 406h is cube design

[elder sandal]

In any case, we should know whatever they are soon. I do recall the Anbernic rep saying that November would be the last month of the year for device launches for them, and I seem to recall Anbernic usually takes a week or two off at the beginning of January, so whatever comes out this month will likely be the last of their new releases until mid-January or February.

[tepid plover]

didnt ehy also said that RG406V is gonna be last device of 2024? and 40xx V being last H700?

[oak timber]

then they announced the RG Cube XX

then they confirmed the 406h

so who knows lmao

[winged crest]

For October, they didn’t mean November/December

[tepid plover]

like this was said in September

[winter anvil]

November ends, and Max is like "fooled your assholes, didn't I"

[tepid geyser]

perfection

[keen rover]

Could alo just be a game

What is the deeper meaning

Maybe we were the P and H all along

[undone lake]

Maybe it’s one handheld

The rg phat

[keen shard]

true Phubbs

[verbal kite]

Maybe it’s a Philippines handheld

Rg 406PH

[oak timber]

no its the new partnership with Hewlett Packard, the RG406HP

[bold viper]

clearly the 406HP comes with software to operate HP printers so you can make a screenshot that will instantly be printed

[undone lake]

can hook up to hundreds of printers so you can print 60 frames per second and play SML2 entirely on paper

[shrewd shale]

finally good eink handheld

[sharp fox]

There are 39 different anbernic handhelds listed on their website

There were 22 virtual boy games ever made

We almost have double as many handhelds as there are games for a Nintendo console

[undone lake]

not even e-ink, just ink ink lol

[shrewd shale]

i almost have as many fingers as games for that console too

not much of an achievement

[hallow charm]

Only if you are twins

[shrewd shale]

toes are fingers too

[sharp fox]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046682

[autumn sierra]

i mean yeah "digits"

[undone lake]

What if one of them is this

[shrewd kernel]

needs a middle dong with the joystick, then I would buy it

[wispy cipher]

like if it would be cheaper that would be cool because prices are insane

[wispy cipher]

they said the last device was gonna release in november

[twin kestrel]

cmon anbernic release this asap so theres still time left within november to release even more

[wispy cipher]

frfr

[shrewd shale]

in spanish we call toes fingers of the feet and i think you guys should too

[autumn sierra]

honestly

suprised abt lack of a promo video

[blissful socket]

yeah, where's that sweet country music?! 🤠

[undone lake]

My prediction is that it’ll go on sale around the 20th and we’ll start getting marketing material around the 10th

[winter anvil]

I think they'll wait for 11.11 to end first

[tepid plover]

They usually do the proo trailers on Thursday so who knows

[oak timber]

oh if the 406p was this i know some people who would be very happy...

but alas its the unico pocket... lol

[icy parrot]

inline trigger would be pain

[oak timber]

not for me

[icy parrot]

also the buttons are criminal

[oak timber]

i want small

oh, yeah i just meant the layout

not specific buttons

[icy parrot]

while I somewhat agree, they have to be analogue and I doubt they would pull it off with inline ones

[undone lake]

they have the big bulbous stick top one with analog triggers, let them give us a pocket one with digital inlines and a flat shell

[oak timber]

thats what im hoping for

in fact, keep the rg405m design and let me swap a metal shell

🤣

[prime hound]

What if Anbernic wants to name their Android line witu only one trailing letter ? Then "H" stands for Horizontal and "P" stands for SP ?

[sinful stream]

is it just me or like. analog inline. dualshock 2 just had pressure sensitive r2/l2 they didn't actually swing...

[normal trout]

What's new here guys

[shrewd shale]

nothing much

just the naming thing and wondering if there's an H and a P or only one

for me a P makes no sense when the first 406 model was already plastic, i still thing there's only an H

[dire ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cattitude-catitude-cat-watch-cat-watching-gif-23322844

[oak timber]

Make it the same design as the 405m with upgraded screen and chip and I’ll buy one and swap shells

406m end game ez

[stark terrace]

i was playing my 405m on the train today and then slid it into my pocket and thought damn, this thing is near perfect. Really all I play is crazy taxi though so i'm not really pushing the device

[oak timber]

yeah, i play Luigis mansion and N64 games mostly on it. altho i have fired up FFX but i will probably play that on my steam deck as I have the HD Remaster on steam lol

[slender pelican]

Agreed

[oak timber]

im not huge on ps2 games but there are probably a few gamecube games i would want to run better

and the 720p screen would be worth the upgrade.

[slender pelican]

DS2 had pressure sensitive face buttons so there's no reason for in-line analog shoulders to not exist.

[lusty condor]

This has analog triggers by tilting to the side. I would want Anbernic to do this but ofcourse that means your R1 and R2 locations will need to be reversed in the inline layout

Or PlayStation style of pressure sensitive buttons work too

[twin kestrel]

wish would make a newer version of this with a type c port

[full trench]

C button 🤮

[worthy mica]

Any day now?™

[versed walrus]

I’m hoping so, spent yesterday getting my roms collection in order and researching how to map Wii controls to joysticks

[oak timber]

wait for this, or $116 for an RG Cube from Ali

[grim spire]

If this was an offer for a 406V I may have taken the plunge

[oak timber]

lemme see how much the 406v is

$141

thats too much. I can get an RP4P for $140 on ali rn

[tepid plover]

link?

[oak timber]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807542049188.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

RHH25 to save $25 off 100

[tepid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/rigged-conspiracy-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017234

[oak timber]

US only i think

[versed walrus]

Quick question, how good is the T820 chipset for ps2? Rewatching videos on older devices in the series from different channels and I am getting different opinions on its ability to emulate ps2.

[undone lake]

My impression so far is enough power to get stuff working but not enough power to just yolo no tweak everything at 2x

[tepid plover]

tb h 1,5x is enough if its the same screen as 406v

[hexed bronze]

It’s always us only

[oak timber]

im torn i love my rg405m but faster devices for cheap are dropping...

$116 rg cube or $140 for an rp4p

[glossy ore]

I love my cube, but I mostly play ds/3ds on it (I prefer it to my actual 3ds).

[oak timber]

yeah ive been wanting to get into those games, its not the best on the 405m. i lvoe the 405m form factor tho

[grim spire]

How does 3DS run? I haven’t been able to get any games running without stutters on both my Deck and RP4P

[oak timber]

i play 3ds on my 405m

are you using citra nightly?

[glossy ore]

I've been playing pokemon games, occassional stutter while compiling shaders, but it doesn't slow me down

[final valve]

stutters are inevitable even on pc.

only way around it get shader cache from someone with the same system, which is technically piracy

[versed walrus]

I have a 3ds so not too interested in how it plays on the t820 devices, but from the discord it seems like it can play most games fine after it first loads game assets

[tepid plover]

3ds has been fine on the Cube for me , yeah , just needed buit of a setup

[glossy ore]

I have multiple DS/3DS, but now I just use the cube, lol

[tepid plover]

as much as fire the of hardware is i just got way too used to the savestates

[glossy ore]

save states and fast forward are just so nice

[half cedar]

There's like a million different sites for the p word, but is there even a single site for shader cache?

I understand, Nintendo will sue anyone that tries, but considering there are so many sites you can straight up download games from, are there any that help with the shader cache?

[tepid plover]

thats the think .. intenret was literally made for p word

nintendo on other hand ... tried to eradicate everything from it they dont directly control

[final valve]

there were some standalone tools but I never used them and afaik, they all stopped development.

[versed walrus]

Oh man it’s been over two weeks (I think) since Anbernic introduced a new device. Hope everything is ok with them.

October 11th since the cube x, maybe their controller is counted as a device though? In which case they are about on track

[tepid geyser]

rg351p successor when?

[grim shell]

https://tenor.com/view/plotting-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-feeder-cat-eating-gif-smug-cat-gif-11834773052453785635

[hallow charm]

a 3:2 XX is definitely long overdue

[dire ruin]

YOU ARE EVERYWHERE

[dire ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-love-cats-cute-cat-cute-cats-gif-24560723

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[grim shell]

Haha XD I was about to say the same thing :3 I’m normally on the Polymega Discord tho 😺

https://tenor.com/view/cats-surprise-sneaky-gif-5285144

[dire ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/pong-gif-26462133

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-bite-water-water-bottle-gif-16999810

[grim shell]

https://tenor.com/view/on-gang-cat-orange-cat-cute-yuanbao-gif-17083873509693629378

[grim shell]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nom-gif-23972182

[dire ruin]

this is more for @normal trout

[grim shell]

Oh yeah! XD 😸

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[bold viper]

https://tenor.com/view/pogs-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-5692875170737247806

[dire ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/tylermilgate-dogefam-casey-intensifies-gif-24055574

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-cow-milk-milk-gif-22745903

[grim shell]

LOOK AT THAT CAT! 😮

[dire ruin]

LOOK. LOOK AT THE TOE BEANS.

[versed walrus]

Couldn’t find my cat meme folder, my cat obliged to fill in

[keen shard]

my cat is weird

[normal trout]

Here's my car being a goober

[keen shard]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-momo-ayase-ayase-momo-dan-da-dan-anime-ddd-gif-6245069790378956697

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/ror2-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain-2-mithrix-providence-gif-18396366676744609637

[keen shard]

the p in 406p stand for cat

[tepid geyser]

dont you mean pussy?

[dire ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/casey-is-mid-arcane-viktor-ci-aart-clevelandia-gif-25300360

[keen shard]

thats excatly what i meant

[half cedar]

When are we getting an Anbernic handheld based on the N64 controller layout

RG4064

https://youtu.be/F2U-TCOWsK0

It's a start

[tepid geyser]

does the n64 controller have shoulder buttons?

well would wouldn't it have