Anbernic RG406H

[oak timber]

USPS GA goes on a boat 😦

[verbal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-im-on-a-boat-the-lonely-island-lonely-island-andy-samburg-gif-5232669

[oak timber]

so are we thinking $170 for this?

[verbal kite]

Whatever the 406v and cube are priced around

[oak timber]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16z49gqJEuzyI1PSMsi231CD8FhCeaBbrZ-NlYpj518E/edit?gid=0#gid=0 this should be right, for the RG406p right?

as far as what it can run

[autumn sierra]

yeuh

[keen rover]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-gif-230597167926076170

[oak timber]

hrm, its kinda sparse on GCN lol

i wonder if there's a better T820 sheet

since its in 406v, rg cube

[autumn sierra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ALf4XxNqtsCk9LzB0C3_KW39c7idh_cjT27iuPREpDM/edit

this one is better

again im pretty sure gamecube runs pretty good

[oak timber]

ty

[autumn sierra]

ive havent had issues

[oak timber]

if its the rb cube design tho, it wont be as pocketable as 405m 😦

triggers will stick out and theres more bezel

[autumn sierra]

just cram in it there

dont be a coward

[stark terrace]

yeah, having a 4 inch pocketable slab is really nice. I'd consider 40xx if it didn't have the h700

[oak timber]

i think ill wait for reviews and see how well the 405m does the games I want to play.

it might just be fine

also sales.

cube already going on sale

[verbal kite]

We pretty much know what this is capable of already

[fading cloak]

herbs?

[versed walrus]

My monies on granite personally

[fading cloak]

Granite is H?

Maybe Hranite

[glossy ore]

You can get it a little cheaper right now on ebay, thanks to a current ebay coupon: https://www.ebay.com/e/daily-deals/24-rw44-apac?KeyFlows_offerType=1&_kwdomcat=26395,6000,11700&_bkw=anbernic

406V for $141

[oak timber]

406V is gonna be $138 for halloween i think

but ebay has free ship i think.

[glossy ore]

yeah, free shipping on the ebay post

[oak timber]

does anbernic direct have tax?

ebay does

[glossy ore]

$12 shipping from Anbernic. No clue on tax, i live in Oregon, lol

[oak timber]

lol

lucky

[lofty zinc]

Oregon best state

[icy parrot]

I'm a lil disappointed if this is just a t820 again

[oak timber]

what else would it be?

[glossy ore]

Don't set yourself up like that, it is absolutely going to be a T820, it is the same chip code as the rest of their T820s.

[oak timber]

at least it has a screen upgrade

[autumn sierra]

people actin like the 820 is a h700

[oak timber]

i think im skippin' or waiting for a really good sale ~$120-130

rg405M will hold me over

[icy parrot]

I know

[glossy ore]

H700 is a perfect device for what it is, and I think the T820 is damn near perfect for what it is. Obviously they'll release better eventually, but with >PS2 emulation pretty much dead, there's not much purpose to it.

[autumn sierra]

ur downplay will be ur undoing

[oak timber]

I agree, but i feel like with stacked shoulders and hand grips, it'll feel way better to play on, but will absolutely not be pocketable anymore

and thats the target for me, at this size of device

[glossy ore]

For sure, that's why I've got an SP for pocket and cube for everything else

[glossy ore]

I wouldn't want to walk around with a $150+ device that doesn't go through drop testing as part of it's QC, in my literal pocket, lol

[keen rover]

This is correct 😄

[glossy ore]

which reminds me, we should get a beer 😛

[spring wolf]

Oregon best state for weirdos

Fixed

[autumn sierra]

my 556 is tucked away in my backpack at all times

[glossy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

[oak timber]

If it isn’t pocketable then why not just get a 556?

Cheaper and oled

[autumn sierra]

spitting

[glossy ore]

Gotta see how this comes out. I don't care for wide screen (probably why I have a cube), most of what I play is older generation consoles, handhelds up to 3ds, with a bit of dabbling in modern systems. So i'd rather have a more compact device. Once they start getting much bigger, it takes up more space in my quite small backpack, and are a chore to lug around. I don't think I've ever used my switch off of it's dock.

[elder sandal]

Mine stays tucked away in the red/black version of the official case in my bag, though I'm thinking of upgrading to one of these new slim form fitted super sturdy cases: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D46LKHXT/

[autumn sierra]

oh i use that case too lmfoa

it has survived space mountain at disneyland (i dont know how still)

[elder sandal]

Whelp, that sounds like a rousing endorsement to me!

clicks buy button

I still hope the RG556 makes at least a few prominent retro handheld YouTubers' list of best devices of 2024 when the year end top lists come out, cause I love this thing so freakin' much

[hexed bronze]

Needs a little refresh with more / better shells and better sticks

Anbernic doesn’t bother if it sells good enough

[elder sandal]

Really the only thing I'd like is a software update to remove the cardinal snapping from the joysticks, but even that I've only ever noticed in one game out of the dozens I've played on the 556. It's not generally an issue.

[lofty zinc]

Can confirm. Am weirdo.

[undone lake]

The 406 screen is really perfect for lcd grid shaders for gameboy/gba/gamegear and integer scaling

Plus if you’re into overlays I’d be concerned mildly about burn in

So yeah if you hate pillarboxing, want something more compact and retro looking, want integer scaling, want grid shaders, want overlays

And presumably the 406h will get the better sticks and a better dpad

[hallow charm]

Pocketable is a very subjective thing anyway, there's almost no handhelds I'd happily have in a trouser pocket for long, but jacket pocketable is more than feasible for many of them, but less than ideal when you get up to 5.5" or larger devices

[undone lake]

Yeah I like the 28xx for actually pocketable

The 406v fits in one of the accessory pockets in my laptop bag meant for a charger or a mouse or whatever too

But I’d never jam the 406v in my pants

I also have a small sling bag where if I throw a big horizontal widescreen in it hogs the main compartment while the 406v fits in an accessory pocket

Leaving the main compartment open for a tablet or something

If I’m filling the main compartment with a handheld that handheld is an ally X

[oak timber]

yeah its subjective, but for me it'd be to fit into my sling bag

the 405M is about the max

[autumn sierra]

part of me wonders if i got eyestrain from adding the lcd shaders was because OLED screens are weird

[keen rover]

Chatting about the H tonight https://youtube.com/watch?v=OcWQW4xypKI

[autumn sierra]

[undone lake]

Is that an actual pic of the H or do we still not know what the front looks like?

Was hoping for the cube dpad tbh

[autumn sierra]

it loks like an edited 35xx

[undone lake]

Maybe? OLED has super high brightness too

[keen rover]

Aish made this based on the available data

@limpid tusk

The P patent, the reddit photo job, and the H internals from Nittrx 😄

[limpid tusk]

I made that based on the patent

[oak timber]

would the 406H just look like the RG40XX ?

oh... stick on top

[undone lake]

Less rounded sides too

[icy parrot]

Don't put the stick on top again

[verbal kite]

Omg aish

Absolutely put stick on top ty

[oak timber]

is the red circle a stick ribbon cable?

also does 406H mean there won't be a metal version

[keen rover]

From what I understand this will be a plastic shell

They did say they'll be doing metal shells less often, but i'm getting some firmer details on the H, hopefully before showtime!

[lost turtle]

Plastic shell is a very good news, I really appreciate the low weight of the handheld

[full trench]

good, we don’t need to be paying extra for cheap metal that’s gonna be easily scratched up (metal is NOT more premium lol)

[lost turtle]

Plastic is not as heavy and doesnt get warm as much as aluminium shell

[oak timber]

but why H and not P ?

i figure H means there won't be a P/M distinction

[keen rover]

That's my understanding as well

[oak timber]

i know im gonna want one even if I dont need it lol

https://tenor.com/view/so-long-katniss-everdeen-jennifer-lawrence-hunger-games-three-finger-salute-gif-4959991257576548702

[versed walrus]

This has been the thing I have been using as justification to not buy any other mid range handhelds for months now going back to the 556 and rp4 so I am definitely grabbing one because if I don’t then why have I not bought other E waste until this point?

[keen rover]

Here's an alternate pic that might make it easier to see the patent render

If i'm making wishes, I hope they make one in transparent orange like the R36S 😂

[oak timber]

i want transparent purple

[hexed bronze]

Seeing how they are such big dragonba GT fans they might make a dragon ball inspired transparent orange color

[oak timber]

or smokey transparent

[hexed bronze]

Black, white dmg

Take it or leave it

[hexed bronze]

[oak timber]

i know it probably wont happen 😦

thats the color I have on my mini+

[autumn sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[autumn sierra]

dragon ball has actually new shit coming out so a goku color would sell infinity

[hexed bronze]

That daima stuff

Haven’t taken a look at it yet

[icy parrot]

it's not horrible, but neither it is interesting
can't beat GT at the end of the day

[autumn sierra]

sentenced to 100 years of dragon ball multiverse

[autumn sierra]

its basically what if GT was good

[hexed bronze]

Don’t let @icy parrot see this

[autumn sierra]

[icy parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-honk-inhale-inhales-untitled-gif-16237480

[pearl jetty]

Dpad top is the loud minority lol

[elder sandal]

I used to be a diehard D-pad on top advocate, but I've come to the conclusion that if your primary intended purpose for the handheld is Dreamcast, N64, GameCube, and/or PS2 then having the analog stick up top makes sense; providing the D-pad is inset to a comfortable location where it can still be used when needed like on the RG556. The Odin 2's D-pad placement was awful and I almost would have rather had D-pad on top for that one.

[final valve]

my rule is simple. widescreen? stick top. narrower aspect ratio? dpad top.

[elder sandal]

That is quite sensible and I like it... unless you're super into PSP lol

[final valve]

or be like valve and put both top

[elder sandal]

That Steam Deck layout is something special. I do have to stretch my thumbs a little more than I'd like to use the sticks, but the layout does work for both D-pad and analog stick games pretty darn well.

[carmine bloom]

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[pearl jetty]

Lol ok then.

[jade oxide]

what could be the price of it?

[tepid plover]

180ish? like cube or V

[jade oxide]

It will be good for nds games?

[normal trout]

Yeah it’s great for DS

[jade oxide]

I was buying the cube but someone said rg406h is coming soon

How soon do you think it might come out?

[normal trout]

Not sure exactly

I’d guess by the end of November

[jade oxide]

Yay

I hope soon especially in europe

[autumn sierra]

those retroid taxes are insane

[jade oxide]

?

[final valve]

same as 406v is my guess. should come down to 130-140 on sale.

[pearl jetty]

imagine getting this just to play visual novels or (gasp) Galge/Bishojo games

[hallow charm]

The alignment of the dpad and stick is definitely the most crucial part of any layout for me, don't mind either being up top, but there has to be an offset so both controls are properly usable

[hexed zealot]

Oooh the 406h looks kind nice. Finally a compact GC/PS2 capable device that doesn't look like ass.

Are there gonna be bulges on the back shell? I hope not.

[oak timber]

yes

but only near the triggers

[hexed zealot]

Is this still accurate for the current design that we are seeing? I thought this was just a placeholder design or something.

[oak timber]

this came from a patent

[verbal kite]

It is not accurate and we don’t actually know what it’ll look like, yet

[oak timber]

yeah, its just our best guess atm

the shoulder design aligns with this tho

[hexed zealot]

Oh ok

[oak timber]

but yeah, it could be shaped like the cube

fans not in the middle tho

[mortal garden]

WHY IS THIS NOT DPAD ON TOP ARGH

[undone lake]

406v stays winning

[mortal garden]

AWAY WITH YOU

you know how much i hate the Vertical

[versed walrus]

I propose we ditch the horizontal and vertical terminology and replace them with correct and wrong, with correct being horizontal while vertical becomes wrong.

[mortal garden]

add to how dpad on top is correct, and on bott is wrong. so we want a correct correct device

[versed walrus]

We get really confusing there and label them port and starboard inexplicably. And then we never adequately answer which is port and which is starboard

[hallow charm]

Proposal denied - denial reason that's idiotic nonsense

[versed walrus]

Inline shoulder buttons become mutt while stacked becomes Jeff

[hexed tartan]

Boy, it must suck for you that it’s the only Android handheld design they’ll ever make with D-Pad on top then, huh?

[undone lake]

405v too lol

Oh 505

They did make an android dpad top horizontal handheld

[hexed tartan]

The first and only time they ever did it for an Android-Only Horizontal handheld. They must’ve hated it a lot if they’ve still never done it again, even now.

[undone lake]

Imagine if the 406h is dpad top with the arc/cube dpad

[hexed tartan]

I’d sooner believe they would make a RG Arc T820 with only a D-Pad and no sticks, only to make it metal and obscenely expensive purely for the sake of bleeding the Arcade-handheld dreamers dry.

[undone lake]

Ha, I want one stick and whatever chip they use for the xx7 on an “arc pro” so that it can play n64 and Saturn respectively

[hexed tartan]

Good news then, you’ll at least have something to hard focus on in resisting the urge to buy it, like I do in only accepting a Digital Joystick for my dream Arcade handheld, no analog stick, and definitely not D-Pad only.

[undone lake]

I’ll settle for a sega dpad but yeah a neogeo clicky stick would be wild

[undone lake]

This with a sega dpad and I’ll buy it lol

[hexed bronze]

Stop wanting sega dpads and 6 buttons on everything

😤

[undone lake]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[winged crest]

Quick question do any Anbernic handhelds have analog triggers ?
Was going to buy ( still might when on sale ) a 406V until I found out they are digital only , I'm guessing this wont be any different but hope I'm wrong.
I know not a big deal for most but that's what I want

[hexed bronze]

Cube and 556 are both analog

Only the 406v is digital

[undone lake]

Of the t820 stuff

[hexed bronze]

Making it the only T820 that is that way

Because the 406H will have analog triggers as well

Like 1058203%

[winged crest]

Thanks man

[undone lake]

Yeah the pic of the back basically confirmed it

[winged crest]

Hope this does too

[undone lake]

Those shoulders are way too big to be digital

[winged crest]

Would of bought a RG556 but those older sticks are kinda ass and don't like the 1:1 as ratio the cube has so hopefully this has the new sticks used on the 406V and analog triggers of the RG557

[mortal garden]

.......I hope your device breaks

😭

[hexed tartan]

And meanwhile only the 406V has the retroid sticks, the Cube and 556 still having Joycon sticks.

[mortal garden]

but honest question

is this Device, 406H actually coming

[pearl jetty]

you're getting the win600 though, yeah? its analogs are their own version smooth-but-stiff hall sensors

[autumn sierra]

people in this channel want this again

[unborn yacht]

Yep. Compare it to the CubeXX's board on the last pic here: #1294370605700878427 message

[elder sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/noahs-arc-its-an-abomination-tragic-i-dont-agree-this-aint-it-gif-21013302

[undone lake]

so it's stick top

[unborn yacht]

I didn't expect otherwise, but it'd be killer if it wasn't.

[undone lake]

honestly just confirms that I made the right choice (for me personally) with the 406v

[mortal garden]

its the wrong choice

ADMIT IT

[unborn yacht]

I don't know, I'd like to try it, but the d-pad hanging that low still feels weird.

[oak timber]

I wanna play Luigi’s mansion and sunshine, so analog triggers are a must

[mortal garden]

wonder if the 406h will have triggers

anlaog triggers

[outer remnant]

The d-pad on bottom was one of the reasons that I hesitated on the Odin 2, but honestly? It feels fine.
The problem you're having is probably the way you're holding it. Lower your left hand an inch or two, wrap your index finger over-top the bottom bulge, and then your middle-finger across it.
I play a lot of GBA on the Odin 2 and that grip is pretty comfy even for long sessions.

[oak timber]

It should

[elder sandal]

That's exactly what I did with my Odin 2 when I had it, but for me the problem was that the Odin 2 was so heavy that the bulge would make a really sore spot in the middle of my palm after 15 minutes or so. I just couldn't handle the weight of the darn thing.

[tepid plover]

its super funny ... as i originalyl ever inteded to get "405m successoer" and ultimately went the route of getting RPMini instead and plan to upgrade 405v to 406v in my "consolidation of verticals plan" next year

just sadi that LeChonk06 dropped the wood 😕

[icy parrot]

Go away with the SEGA d-pad, god damn it

[arctic path]

Hmm switch sticks?

[elder sandal]

I fudging love it! Literally exactly what I wanted, just a 4:3 Cube; though hopefully with the new 720p screen and improved analog sticks. Fingers crossed on those.

[twin kestrel]

noice, whered this come from

[unborn yacht]

Sticks looking tall, good news.

Same structure as the 406v on the shell in fact.

[twin kestrel]

i knew holding off getting a cube was a good call

now should i hold off until a top dpad comes out is the question

[elder sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-anduril-aragorn-flame-of-the-west-dunharrow-gif-27039865

[unborn yacht]

That'd be the dream.

[limpid tusk]

Oh shit that's nice!

[winter anvil]

Damn, that dpad basically sold me on this

I'm a bit anxious that as soon as I buy this they'll make a T820 Arc though lol

Gotta have those large face buttons too

[unborn yacht]

I do hope they keep using this d-pad regardless, massive standout feature.

[limpid tusk]

I would agree if it was the dpad from the arc, but this one is just ok.

[unborn yacht]

And maybe one day madman Zhou will be mad enough to try doing the Neo Geo directional... thingy.

[winter anvil]

It's not the same? How is it different?

[limpid tusk]

The one on the arc is very different, this one is basically the same dpad just with a round housing, the one on the arc was more like a floating dpad

[hexed bronze]

Sticks protrude a bit much, no?

Surely people want call this pocketable

[winter anvil]

Ah damn, saw the teardown, you're right

It's all one piece, no base like in a proper Sega dpad

Well Max, you know there is no law against making two T820 handhelds in a row, right?

[bold viper]

T820, better sticks, higher res 4:3 display, proper analogue triggers, ergonomic bumps on the back etc. make this much better than just a 405M but in plastic imo but we shall wait and see

[icy parrot]

if this has a SEGA d-pad, all those SEGA fans shall be cursed to never see an powerful ARC

[unborn yacht]

Oh. That's disappointing.

[winter anvil]

https://youtu.be/vEBGAxQG_8Y?si=QRuJnSb733-Hhayp&t=174

Yeah, on Arc the top part will come off from the outer side of the shell, and here it comes through

[lost turtle]

Holy shit, much better than expected 😄

Also it seems they are testing transparent shells as well, good news

How long do you think till they announce it?

[hexed zealot]

If the sticks are good and it has a flat back, this will be what I wanted the RP Mini to be tbh.

[unborn yacht]

This shouldn't be flat, it's a Cube reinteration.

[maiden moss]

No Dpad on top 😫

[lost turtle]

Its better for the consoles more people will used it for like n64, DC, GC and PS2. Byt also dpad is in quite comfy position imo, not much below the stick, so ergonomics should be good for both

With dpad on top the stick should have been quite a bit lower so you are not touching it all the time and I can imagine it would be much worse for stick centric systems than it is right now for dpad centric ones

[tepid plover]

hopefully ... i will definitely upgrade if improved arc appears 😄

(T820 should be enough for yaba saturn .... i dont really need the "full sega device" to be cabable of beetlecore as that would boost price quite high)

[tepid plover]

thats a qurstion 😄 if they intend it as "405m successort" or "wider cube"

[twin kestrel]

idm either, this form factor is better than the cube im planning to buy, so good thing i waited

[tepid plover]

tbh i grabbed a cube for different reasons and needs than why i waited for 406h (and ultimately went fro RPMini instead) ... but still kinda plan to do 406v

but if the CubeXX was available back then ... i would probably do that one (cause the main reason for me to get ube was getting annyoned by RGB30's battery woes)

[twin kestrel]

hopefully no glaring issues vs 556/cube, then i can replace ktr1 and 28xx in one go

[tepid plover]

i kinda lucked out with no lightbleed oncube 😄

and i havent seen screen issues about 406v ... si hopefully screen will be fine this time here

[twin kestrel]

ya and they should have the controls dialed down by now

[tepid plover]

but i bet 405m owners still have some PTSD from

[twin kestrel]

only thing i recall is we cant remap the anbernic button by default right

[twin kestrel]

anbernic with the original portal handheld

[winter anvil]

Yeah, it was always funny to me people did such a huge deal out of light bleed, and yet ignored the whole screen falling out of the shell thing

[hallow charm]

With the new 8bitdo controller getting attention, it's clearly time for a similar handheld design too. 😀

[hallow charm]

It wouldn't be two in a row as cubexx was in between.

[winter anvil]

Nah, I meant 406H then Arc Pro

[tepid plover]

probably gonna be 28xxV or something like that inbetween

[frosty pawn]

RP Mini kinda killed the hype for this one for me

feels like too little too late now

[winter anvil]

Well it should be cheaper for a lot of folks, that's the main draw

I guess I'll be making a decision in December, either take this one, or grab a MagicX T1 (if they don't screw it up) and wait for the end-game Saturn handheld

[twin kestrel]

i wouldve wanted the rp mini too but i cant stand the glass the front

this is nice

[tepid plover]

i think i cant stand flat back ... given my experience with RP3+

similarly switch lite is very painfull on my hands

[hallow charm]

Oh, that's even less likely, only chance of an arc pro in this gen was if they'd done it instead of a regular 406h, which would have actually been a good way to make it more distinct from alternatives.

[winter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/iknow-cry-cryknow-gif-21141666

[lost turtle]

RG Arc didnt sell well, so I doubt they were even considering a new version, the good news is 406H has the same dpad and will be more compact (and analog sticks open it to more systems than just saturn)

T820 Arc might be too niche to be considered (If I was running Anbernic I wouldnt want to have another flop too, only this time more expensive to produce.)

[tepid plover]

i need my fullsega/n64 thing

which is also exactly why ARC was a failure ... too strong/pricey for jusr megadrive , too weak for saturn/dreamcast

[hallow charm]

and yet we have seen leaks of that arc XX and they have reused the circle dpad on other handhelds since.

Tbh, I think the arc was intended to try out some ideas (dpad and 6 buttons) while using up the last of their 3566 stock prior to the full switch to h700 for low to mid range

[winter anvil]

Arc seemed to do okay in China, people there love fighting/arcade stuff

At least I noticed a fairly regular stream of Arc posts on Baidu

[lost turtle]

Arc XX is fake 😛

But even if it wasnt fake, H700 handheld would be much cheaper than t820 to ptoduce. Not only because of the chip they use, but also ram, active cooling, bigger battery etc etc etc.

[shrewd shale]

the color on that pic is so cool, please have more transparent options, anbernic

[verbal kite]

It’s like a mini Odin haha

[lost turtle]

They are reusing circle dpad because people loved it and the reviews liked it as well

also circle dpad is a good way to differentiate it from competition (Retroid)

[shrewd shale]

i haven't tried this one, just the one on the arc, i hope it is good

[winged crest]

Still looking for a nice deal

[autumn sierra]

praying thats a final color

[lost turtle]

it would be better with the black buttons though

[hallow charm]

doesn't seem like it is final hardware as there's a mix of button colours

albeit just start/select

[stark terrace]

I just don’t get how that doesn’t look like every e-waste handheld on this rumor mill channel. It’s fairly ugly. With that said, If it’s only slightly bigger than the 405 and comes in black, I’ll grab it.. I hate to admit what I was hoping for was basically a more powerful ktr1

[autumn sierra]

the take of all time

[winter anvil]

Tbh I don't think a lot of people are calling recent Anbernic handhelds pretty

They're just very comfy

Then again, if KT-R1 is your milestone in handheld design, what do I know

To me it looks pretty generic (not talking about specs or features, just design)

[stark terrace]

hey i just woke up when i wrote that. BUT, I guess I meant as a successor to the 405m, but plastic, with a top d-pad and a much better screen

[stark terrace]

a ton of people wrote how great it looked after that last photo, I was just responding to that and to me, it just looks like other ones people call ugly and cheap

[winter anvil]

I think most people who said "it's pretty" just love trans colors

[stark terrace]

haha fair

[winter anvil]

And, well, Anbernic is one of the few to offer those

(trans as in "transparent")

[autumn sierra]

ayn locking the best colors behind the pro tier

🫠

[hallow charm]

I'm not a fan of transparent cases, think they also tend to look worse in larger devices too

[autumn sierra]

fair

[winter anvil]

I built a clear case GBP once and quickly realised it looks much worse in person than it does on photos

Haven't considered clear cases since

[verbal kite]

I don’t think we’ll ever get a powerful top d pad device from anbernic besides the 406v

[autumn sierra]

i think its cool the 406h has the sega dpad

[hallow charm]

Probably doesn't help that devices never seem designed with a transparent casing in mind so while the front can look good the back tends to look shite

[twin kestrel]

if this comes in black im definitely getting it to replace my ktr1

[twin kestrel]

poor steamdeck oled limited edition

will say my 28xx's transparent black shell definitely makes it a bit more fun than being opaque

@stark terrace would you still consider it even with the stacked shoulder buttons?

[autumn sierra]

fyi
from what ive seen with the cube no one really had issues with comfort

[shrewd shale]

this one's pretty small

i really liked how my rp3+ in ice blue looked, i think this tier still looks really good in transparent

odin 2 and bigger, yeah not for me

[twin kestrel]

wide boi cube

[final valve]

photoshop

[graceful lantern]

Coming from nitrix, i belive so lol

[autumn sierra]

^ guys the real one is right here

[stark terrace]

definitely, just hoping it doesn't end up TOO chunky, and my design pref would be something closer to an RP4 in that way,(flat back but stacked triggers). I'm sure in the end this will look decent

[twin kestrel]

definitely

hopefully its gonna be just as big as the ktr1, if not smaller

[full trench]

six buttons ruins the experience for almost every other emulated system 😭

[tepid plover]

I want it in at least one handheld that can handle yaba saturn

At least one

[normal trout]

[winter anvil]

Well I love other systems on those buttons. Not gonna convince anyone, just my preference

[undone lake]

if it's n64 style layout you can easily use the 'c buttons' as ABXY

the sega layout definitely requires some changes

[winter anvil]

Nah, it's a preference really. I also heard some people complained there were some SNES games requiring combos that are hard to pull off on a non-diamond shape ABXY

Mario something, can't remember

[stark terrace]

i probably missed this conversation as i was busy body shaming the chunkyness of the design, but how do people feel about this d-pad, I assume it is the one from the cube? I don't like the look of the saturn style, but I have limited experience actually using it

[undone lake]

the rg cube was a bit stuff compared to the arc apparently but they fixed that for the cubeXX supposedly so I would expect this one to be refined as well

[normal trout]

I wish the DPad was up top

[winter anvil]

Was there a reason to mess with Arc's dpad in the first place?

I assumed it was the same design on all three devices, but looks like they abandoned the original two-piece dpad?

[undone lake]

the cube one is slightly smaller

[winter anvil]

I was talking more about the fact that the Arc dpad has a hat that can be detached from the base that actually pressed the contact pads

Kinda like the original

[undone lake]

yeah I just mean they had to make a new one for the cube anyway

so that's why they didn't just re-use the arc dpad exactly as is

not sure why they made the decisions they did on the new one

[winter anvil]

Then again I remember lots of people had a problem on the Arc where the dpad would start squeeking after a lot of use. Not having two separate parts would certainly solve that issue

[limpid sluice]

It would also get stuck a lot. When pressing right.

[hallow charm]

It's the usual way, companies will try to iterate out of mechanical issues where possible, look at how phones moved away from trackballs to trackpads to just touchscreens as the main control method, less points of emchanical failure.

Obviously there's limits to how far these handhelds can go but any simplifications that reduce the chances of something breaking are going to be on their mind.

[manic grove]

The fact they didn't go d-pad top with this is 100% guaranteed trustmebro PROOF they're reserving that for the Super Arc+. So yes, please buy this so I can get my Arc Pro Alpha immediately after.

[winter anvil]

Nah, there's I think two dudes in the 406 thread on Baidu who said anything about not having dpad on top

I assume Chinese gamers are simply more comfortable with the stick for most games

[oak timber]

for a device that can do PSP, N64, and gamecube, why wouldnt you want the stick on top

[winter anvil]

It's almost as if this Discord server didn't have hundreds of pages worth of debate on the matter

Damn, I'm watching the RH podcast on 406, and it literally starts with the "the P is coming" joke, which heavily reminded me of all the "must use good urine" stuff

[undone lake]

Psp is dpad top and no matter how beefy a device is I’m still going to play ps1 on it.

[winter anvil]

Yeah, I was also surprised to see PSP as an for argument for stick top

Guess it depends on the games you play? Stuff I played was dpad-heavy

[undone lake]

Same

[manic grove]

Even on PS2 there's a fuckton of dpad centric games.

[winter anvil]

I mean, it's really only Sony who consistently made dpad-top controllers — unlike Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft

[autumn sierra]

all of the football games you can use the dpad to control but it feels so weird

[graceful kiln]

I can't think of many d-pad centric games on ps2. Megaman X8, Klonoa 2, Boku no Natsuyumi 2, and I imagine the Tales games would feel good with a d-pad, at least during combat

[mortal garden]

Dpad on bot and not traditional cross

WHY ANBERNIC DO YOU NOT WANT MY MONEY

[final valve]

why couldn't rpmini have come with this screen 😭

[final valve]

i'll trustyoubro

[undone lake]

They already did the traditional cross dpad on top for true retro enjoyers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742103593158574122/1292647043176861779/makesweet-47bmww.gif

[autumn sierra]

i am an oled truther but the 406 screen is genuinely really fuckin good

[tepid plover]

i am just glad we are slowly moving drom the 480p deadlock

[icy parrot]

yet anbernic should face the facts

a lot of people will rather use the rg406h for d-pad centric games, than playing GCN/PS2 on it

it's 4:3

[verbal kite]

Who

[icy parrot]

it's high res

[verbal kite]

Is a lot of people in the room with us

[icy parrot]

you can integer scale almost every old system on this without huge bezels

[icy parrot]

go away you stick-top evil

[verbal kite]

Nuke our budget line basically

[icy parrot]

go and buy an Odin 2 Mini, leave the rg406h alone

also f* SEGA d-pads, I only like those for fighting games (which I don't play)

[verbal kite]

If 405m sales were indicative to anbernic of anything, I think it’s safe to assume they can repeat a stick top 4:3 shmedium handheld

Yah I won’t even use the dpad lmao

[icy parrot]

rg405m stick on top was just foolish

[verbal kite]

Still sold

[icy parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/excalibur-fool-soul-eater-soul-eater-gif-10780727

I mean, I also have one

[verbal kite]

just get an rp5 👌

[graceful lantern]

Is this real? Lol

[icy parrot]

looks real enough

[verbal kite]

This looks like that fake render from 2 weeks ago

That specifically said in Chinese that it was fake

[icy parrot]

well, I wouldn't put a bunch of shitty colors beyond Anbernic

[graceful lantern]

Omg the fisher price on acid one is mine

[autumn sierra]

its nittrix most of his shit is fake

[graceful lantern]

Yeah thats why I asked lol

[icy parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-is-such-a-happy-color-addams-family-gif-9549459

well, I guess the real product will be slightly more rounded and has some CUBE-like ergo bumps

as long as they do a solid black unit

transparent black just looks cheap on these higher end devices imo

bit of a shame that they haven't done a single good color for the rg406v

[verbal kite]

Yeah solid black please

Which they’ve done for pretty much everything but the 406 lol

[graceful lantern]

The whole image

[oak timber]

oh thats old and also a fan mokcup

[verbal kite]

Yea it literally translates to this is fake lol

[stark terrace]

this in black pleeeaaaassseeee

[tepid glade]

assuming it has cube grips, and the Dpad is in a comfortable usable position. I think this will be the one I get this gen

[tepid plover]

that orange lol

[tepid plover]

wasnt it H and not P?

[graceful lantern]

well its solved then lol

gonna leave it bc that orange is fire

[glossy ore]

yeah, that orange/blue is hot

[full trench]

don’t have a 406v but even I know it’s peak, probably the current best t820, the design is so much better than the one on the 405v, the controls are peak, the layout is like a ps controller, and it’s small enough to easily take around with a bag.

also LOL the 406v is going to end up being smaller than the rg406h (albeit a little thicker)

[verbal kite]

the design is almost exactly the same as the 405v lol

[oak timber]

i just got my 405M and this thing is just perfect. i wish the 406P was the same design just plastic and T820...

the rounded shoulders will be more comfortable and playable but will add a lot of bulk.

[twin kestrel]

so how wide would 406H likely be

[undone lake]

I like them for shmups

[verbal kite]

the reason its not is because they use cooling with the T820s

[oak timber]

@twin kestrel it's probably gonna be between the 405m and rp3

[twin kestrel]

[verbal kite]

i would say very close to ktr1

[twin kestrel]

thats gonna be perfect for me

[verbal kite]

same

this is a really ideal handheld for me too

[undone lake]

I can't see this being pocketable enough to replace the 28xx

[twin kestrel]

i dont actually pocket my 28xx as much as i thought, it stays in my bag so it works out for me

[undone lake]

ah, for me the whole point of the 28xx is to keep it on my person literally all day every day

[twin kestrel]

nice, i think i only do that if i dont actually bring any sort of bag when going out

[verbal kite]

all my handhelds go in a bag

[autumn sierra]

rp5 moment

[twin kestrel]

steamdeck bros gonna say their device is pocketable anyways

[autumn sierra]

just get a steamdeck

[twin kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-rollerblade-matrix-gif-9813173044290140999

[hexed zealot]

It's shaping up to be the best GC/PS2 so far, but it's not replacing my 28xx and MagicX MiniM.

[twin kestrel]

ill still probably keep the 28xx for my jacket/pocket

but definitely gonna replace my kt if there are no glaring issues

if only rp mini didnt have a glass front cause prefer dpad top but well

[oak timber]

the 405m is replacing my rgb10x

now i need a flip device

[icy parrot]

that's why it was an acceptable choice on the CUBE, but the 406h, nope, go away with this

[tepid plover]

there will probably be someone on etsy making a mod 😄

[twin kestrel]

mod for a traditional cross dpad? 👀

wait so underneath the disc dpad thing its still a cross cutout in the shell?

[autumn sierra]

i think theres a rg cube teardown

[tepid plover]

i mean , there are even stacked shoulder buttons mods for 405m

where is a will, there is a way

[twin kestrel]

wait for people to make inline shoulder buttons for this

[autumn sierra]

☹️

why would you make it worse

[tepid plover]

i really really want to say something about certain RPMini thing 😄 but i wont 😛

[autumn sierra]

this is a safe space

[twin kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-splish-youropinionistrash-duck-trash-gif-18626505

[pearl jetty]

Inb4 "t820 isnt powerful enough for me"

[tepid plover]

nah |it would be joke ||about shaders making things look works || 😛 aka comeback on nickels post 😛

[versed walrus]

Honestly this for high end emulation, steamdeck for games and another SP (I bought two, sold one and dropped the other shortly after) and I will be set

[tepid plover]

is SP a nostalgia thing? ... never understood the appeal of it

or might be just my PTSD from GPD Win2's hinge issues

[versed walrus]

It’s a clamshell so I don’t have to worry about the screen as much as the other xx series devices

Aside from that it’s not a super preference for me

[tepid plover]

i am kinda more scared of hinge breaking than from a screen breaking

[autumn sierra]

yes

its a good design but it is nostalgia kicking everyones asses

now if they made a ds or a 3ds styled clampshell i am folding

[tepid plover]

i have been kinda slowly consolidaning my collection lately 😄 ... thx to the recent move outside of 480p deadlock with some devices 😄

when i am done ... i will finally get number of devices under 20

sold bunch of old 4:3 horizontals and replaced it by RPMini , plan to basically sell my whole vertical collection and buy just Brick and 406v, turned buggy rgb30 into cube, sold all 16:9 emulators and kept just Odin2 and waiting for RP5 and last plan to get the weird dualDpad thing from MagicX to replace my OGA 😄

although
well might not be as much of a consolidation when its matter of selling 9 devices to buy 5

[oak timber]

So 3ds would probably look similar to this right ? On the 406h

im trying to figure out the best layout for dual screen mode

[tepid plover]

i have seen people trying various layouts

[oak timber]

is there a way to put a background image too?

instead of just black

[tepid plover]

but i mostly just use tiniest at the bottom ... and switch the screens when needed (most games doesnt really use the screen all that much beyond like map)

[oak timber]

i wanted it small but still readable

i think thats about as small as I can go lol

zelda has to be able to click it too.

[tepid plover]

yeah i havent been trying 3ds on 4:3 ever since i got Cube 😄

[oak timber]

fair nuff

yeah, im mostly gonna be playing N64

[tepid plover]

and there i basically use three layouts depending on a game

1. "fulslcreen top and hotkey switch when needed" (games where its just a map or inventory),
2. max width top screen and superminimal bottom one (just to know its there but dont nead readable)
3. bottom just big enough to be readable and clicable (for games when its actualyl needed for gameplay)

wiedlyy , unlike with NDS ... there isnt all that much games in the 3rd categoty

[versed walrus]

Currently I have a steam deck, OLED switch, Vita, 3ds, MM+, rg280m, and V90 but I am looking to get rid of the lower end handhelds. Not a crazy collection

[tepid plover]

the actuall super lowend i am still for now keeping as "bottow to family members" ... the likes of Model S or 🐸 for example

but i do have unhealthy amount of them .... but i do have lots of them for specific usecases or platforms

#🏆│device-showcase message

this was basically my collection before ordering RP5, RPMini and RGCube and after selling of LCDeck and buch of ooold 4:3s 😄

kinda went too deep into this rabbit hole

and kinda blame the long wait for "406p" for lots of it

[twin kestrel]

cant believe a clamshell with fullsize sticks actually exists

[oak timber]

I have a steam deck, OLED switch, rg405m, rgb10x, MM+ ... but im about to give away the MM+ as a gift pre-set up with Onion and games. rgb10x ill prob keep for portmaster. and main 405m out of the house. steam deck at home.

switch usually stays on the TV

[tepid plover]

Powkiddy A13 ..... i wish there was upgraded version capable of way more MAME.... it has really old SoC so lots of newer stuff is laggy as hell .

[stark terrace]

I was getting shit for this earlier!!!! I stand by my original comment of basically wanting this to be a KTR1

[twin kestrel]

Gotta be specific, want it to be the size of a ktr1

[hallow charm]

If you look at their stuff, they weirdly seem to dodge solid black for their verticals

[undone lake]

Yeah I’m down with big handhelds but for anything vita sized or smaller I want flat and pocketable

[lofty zinc]

I need more transparent color ways in my life.

[half cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGRHFI2eEQ

This should be the exact same performance on a hypothetical 406H, right?

[verbal kite]

Yes

[autumn sierra]

yep!

did you not really pay attention to the other t820 handhelds?

[half cedar]

I guess I haven't really paid attention to the devices above $100 since those were always out of my budget

Is the Handhelds sheet wrong here? Same CPU and GPU but Gamecube is B+ instead of A?

[autumn sierra]

the 406v doesnt have analog triggers

the cube and 556 do

[autumn sierra]

also felt that

remember when retroid was like somewhat budget friendly

[tepid plover]

porbably that yeah .... i dont think i ever seen analog triggers on vertical

[autumn sierra]

part of me thinks anbernic couldve done it but kinda gave up when the mini was announced

[tepid plover]

makes me wonder .... is there even any actual game that uses it xtensivly on GC beyond Mario Sunshine?

[autumn sierra]

racing games, luigi's mansion,

[tepid plover]

hmm will have to try more 😄 never really noticed outside of Sunshine's full pull and halfpull waterspreading

[autumn sierra]

i think analog triggers are a gimmick that stuck around 😭

its funny because nintendo doesnt even use them

really makes u think

[lost turtle]

if yes, its much better to buy rg40xxH

[autumn sierra]

you fool

better screen and controls

and less risk of the battery being a shit

and the ability to play all of n64 and DC without caveats.

[tepid plover]

yep lol ... thats been the weirdest part of switch for me

[autumn sierra]

hd rumble is essential i assure you

[lost turtle]

You prefer to play DC and N64 with dpad? 😮

I never understood people playing N64 on SP

[autumn sierra]

n64 on the 28xx

[lost turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joker-heath-ledger-not-sure-if-serious-gif-20171611

[kind raven]

I made a note in that cell, someone requested the previous A grade on GameCube for the RG406V to be changed to B+ just because of the lack of analog triggers, even though it is technically capable of an A grade.. I just went along with it and changed it to B+

[lost turtle]

agreed, weird decision and it reduced the amount of ports, as more realistic racing games are terrible without analog triggers

[tepid plover]

and also made bunch of pretty nice 3rd party controllers .... kinda shit for general use cause "they were made primary for switch" 😕

[blissful socket]

Dpad on top or bottom really doesn't matter to me and I mainly play platformers

[lost turtle]

and to be honest it looks like it still will be comfy to use

just slightly below the stick

I just hope they will make it in green or blue (transparent or not doesnt matter) but even if not I will buy it anyway, it really looks like their best handheld so far

[blissful socket]

I really like the dpad on the Cube, much more as on the ARC

Will this be Android or Linux based?

[lost turtle]

4 inch 4:3 is the best size for retro systems by far, love it on my rg40xxH and will love hi res version on Rg406H more, also stick on top for higher end systems 🥰

[lost turtle]

its android for sure, like rg406V

but to be honest now with Emulation Station on Android its not so bad

[elder sandal]

Every morning about this time I'm gonna be keeping my eyes on Anbernic's YouTube page, since it's usually not long after a leak that we get the full reveal. I'm guessing Anbernic probably leaks pictures like the one we got of the RG406H yesterday intentionally to build a little hype in the community before they officially show off a new device, and this sure is an exciting one!

[lost turtle]

they do it for sure, I even think they leak some other info first to check if there's interest in the community

like they did with SP over a year ago

or Arc XX (which will not happen probably as most of the community doesnt see a point)

[elder sandal]

It's not likely since Anbernic doesn't like to repeat exact colorways on a device, but man do I ever hope they actually do the off white with red buttons colorway from the Cube for the 406H. That is just SUCH a nice looking color combo and I want it like a fat kid wants cake... which I should know, cause I was a fat kid XD

[blissful socket]

I have the cube in this color and would prefer the DMG of the XX model... 😮‍💨

[elder sandal]

I vote they do Red/White, DMG, then Atomic Purple for the transparent device crowd ^_^

[twin kestrel]

bring back 280m colorway

[winter anvil]

That one was weird. Someone found an Anbernic picture from a year ago and presented it as a recent leak. It even had 2023 written on the watermark

[icy parrot]

this has to be a bad edit tho, right side looks way bigger than left, and while I honestly hope they make it a bit bigger to inset the stick/d-pad properly, I doubt they would only do it on one side

give me the chonky boy

[lost turtle]

I believe they might just be checking if there is interest for this kind of device

[lost turtle]

Looks cool and comfy, but would be definetly too big for my use

I want RG406H to use it outside of home

[winter anvil]

I need to learn how to reg on Baidu, I'd freaking flood them with requests for a faster Arc

[elder sandal]

Behold! The Anber Deck! XD

I'm still massively torn between whether to stick with my RG556 or give the RG406H a try. On one hand almost all the content I play works best on a 4:3 screen and I really like Sega style D-pads best and wish the analog sticks on the 556 were a little better, but on the other hand the 556 has a 1080p AMOLED screen and ridiculously comfy ergonomics thanks to the grip handles on the bottom. Pocketability is of no concern to me, I've got RG40XX H and a Miyoo Mini Plus if I want to toss something in my pocket, so it just kinda comes down to a few nitpicky feature choices.

Realistically I'll probably pick up an RG406H just to compare it to the 556, then keep whichever of the two I prefer and sell the other ^_^

[lost turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

[autumn sierra]

556 >

[undone lake]

Wait 3-6 months and get a 557 with better sticks and a spec bump

[keen shard]

i asked for that change due to not having analog triggers

[prime hound]

I really like the 4:3 screen and 720p is great for scaling, and I could live without OLED. But I'd really appreciate a slightly beefier SoC fitting the screen well and beeing able to run all 4:3 consoles properly. But this T820 seems a bit short at this. Dolphin needs 2x for 720p. Most PS2 games beeing actually 448p, AetherSX2 would need 1.75x to make the handheld truly attractive.

[keen shard]

wait the rg408h/p/v™

[prime hound]

I had a 405M and this 406H did not come so fast.

[keen shard]

there is a huge difference, from barely running gamecube to emulating a good 80% of ps2 library

[prime hound]

Yes but not enough to be really good at GC and PS2. So you don't really step up that much in terms of the consoles it plays. It doesn't not really add GC and PS2.

[keen shard]

❓

[prime hound]

My english is probably not the best, sorry.

[twin kestrel]

i think the ratings dont account for upscaling to match the device's screen resolution

but the t820 should handle them at 1x resolution well enough

[keen shard]

i think, but its powerful enough for them at least at 1.5x

[prime hound]

Indeed, they don’t. And as I like 1x but with CRT shaders, I vastly prefer full device res when shaders are not possible. And I doubt 720p is enough for CRT shaders.

Plus Dolphin is 1x or 2x, without in between I think.

The 405M was good for anything below PS2 and GC, with these consoles as a bonus for partial support. So as to claim as a true successor, the 406H should run these consoles smoothly IMO.

Even more so with the Retroids arround.

[autumn sierra]

you dont know what ur talkin about when it comes to the t820 and thats okay😞

[prime hound]

I don't own a T820 so I refer to a community spreadsheet for the 406V.

Posted above I think.

[autumn sierra]

spreadsheets only tell so much

[prime hound]

Spreadsheets are often too optimistic rather than over-negative.

[autumn sierra]

but yeah the 820 can handle 1.75x ps2

honestly the only game ive actually needed to run at native rez for it to work was kirby planet robobot lmfao

[twin kestrel]

dont think there was ever really a "generational leap" of new systems that can 100% run every anbernic handheld generation (xx3 to xx5 to xx6)

who knows maybe the xx7 can just run yet a few more gc/ps2 games better but still not the entire library

[autumn sierra]

well

theres always gonna be a limit because not every ps2 is compatible with nethersx

[prime hound]

Of course. There always will be the emulators limitations. I don't expect a device to be able to brute force every single game to say it is PS2 or GC ready. That would not be very fair.

[autumn sierra]

transformers armada and dirge of cerebus come to mind

[autumn sierra]

the odin 2 ???

[twin kestrel]

true, we are getting to the point of software/emu limtations with how good the hardware is catching up

[twin kestrel]

i wouldnt know, i play gba on my odin 2

[prime hound]

I think that even Odin2 doesn't brute force everything perfectly at device resolution. But I might be wrong.

[autumn sierra]

ur wrong abt along of things so maybe?

[twin kestrel]

8gen2 is crazy

[prime hound]

Yes maybe. But maybe the T820 doesn't swallow 90-95% of PS2 and GC library at 1.75x and 2x respectively.

[twin kestrel]

all im waiting for by now

is the official teaser vid

[normal trout]

Only game I've had issues with is F Zero GX

Every other games I tried runs fine

[autumn sierra]

yeah that game is

something

[normal trout]

A benchmark lol

[autumn sierra]

im fine with the n64 version ngl 🫡🫡🫡

[twin kestrel]

so thats what F means, fine

[normal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-fzero-fzero-gx-gif-21636231

[autumn sierra]

i dont have to like

[normal trout]

What

[autumn sierra]

for wii u i guess

||is wii u emulation really a hill to die on now||

[twin kestrel]

nvm that joke went over heads ill see myself out

[autumn sierra]

sorry

[normal trout]

Sadge

[twin kestrel]

ill be back once anbernic drops the teaser vid

hopefully a black variant comes up

[normal trout]

That reminds me I need to try GX on dolphin MMJR2

See if I can get a steady full speed

[autumn sierra]

i got this weird mario kart wii mod to work on mmjr2

[normal trout]

I got MH Tri working on MMJR2

[twin kestrel]

new MH game is on beta atm until the weekend btw

[autumn sierra]

mh tri worked on my rp3+ lmfao

25 fps stable 🙏

[normal trout]

Oh shit thanks for reminding me

[verbal kite]

The screen will still play and look better than what’s on the 405m by a big margin

[undone lake]

I’m fine with 1x tbh

I like shaders more than upscaling

[tepid plover]

heh i am exactly the oppsite 😄

[undone lake]

On early 3D (ps1, psp, ps2) the upscaling on 3D elements mixed with the low res 2d UI etc looks real bad to me

I’d have to go all in on texture packs etc

And that is a lot of work

[pliant ridge]

That's why I like you Pope honesty

[tepid plover]

so i just sold my 405v 😄 time to wait for 406v deals 😄

[undone lake]

I want accuracy in my emulation

[tepid plover]

tbh i upscale them even on 1440p 😄 and i always found shaders worse 😛

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-26034393

[graceful lantern]

shaders on higher resolution screens look so great

my favorite handheld for ps1 is the odin 2 bc it can run retro crisis lol

also x1 resolution

[terse flame]

no, lmao

anyway, glad they got the dpad right, symetricers die

gg

[graceful kiln]

Damn do people like GT now

I only just recently caught up on Super so I'm behind on the Dragon Ball opinion zeitgeist

[undone lake]

Imagine a handheld with a 1440p 4:3 miniled for crt shaders

[autumn sierra]

loud minority

[autumn sierra]

did you read the manga

[graceful kiln]

GT has a really bad start, one good arc, a really bad arc, an ok arc, and a bizarrely great ending

[graceful kiln]

I mostly read the manga for Super, though I haven't read the manga original stuff and I haven't seen Super Hero yet

[graceful lantern]

stop making me dream

[autumn sierra]

yeah the manga original stuff and super hero movie is genuinely really fucking great

[graceful kiln]

I'm definitely interested, it all seems really cool. I stopped temporarily where I did because it was all I needed for Sparking Zero but I'll go back to it at some point

[icy parrot]

That is even kinda shit on the RP4P

[lusty condor]

Unfortunately, a skip for me just like the 405m

Dpad on bottom with a 4:3 screen is objectively bad design

[hexed bronze]

Would be fine if you as least had a wider body and an inset dpad

But this looks rough

[glossy ore]

I bought the CubeXX entirely for the dpad position... I also have a Cube, and I really wish it had a top d-pad.

[lusty condor]

Same! CubeXX coming soon for me

[glossy ore]

Cube is basically my endgame device... except for that damn d-pad position. I've bound the stick to d-pad inputs for most things and am just getting used to using that, but it still bugs me.

[oak timber]

405m with an 865 would be my end game device

406h isnt quite it, rp mini isnt it either 😦

but T820 and 865 need active cooling, so my end game might not be possible

[glossy ore]

I was considering the 406h, but bottom dpad means I won't get it. I might get the 406V, but I also feel kinda silly getting a second T820, lol

[oak timber]

i just got my 405M and i love it so much

its literally pocketable. its smaller than my iPhone. I throw it in the drawstring bag from the steam deck's power supply and into my pocket.

[graceful kiln]

405m also fits nicely in those thin psp sleeves

[oak timber]

the 406H wont be pocketable because of the stacked triggers

itll be nice ergonomically im sure

[normal trout]

What kind of unholy abomination is that

[oak timber]

yeah i got one of those too, seeing which is better

i got the vita sleeve. i was told it fits better than psp1/2000

[graceful kiln]

Looks like a scrunched up Odin 2 Portal

[normal trout]

It looks horrible

[hexed bronze]

Just nittrx taking some mock up and petrending it’s real

[normal trout]

Putting smoke up our assholes like usual

[graceful kiln]

My farts look magical at this point

[autumn sierra]

when the 406 is H instead of M 😞

can we be honest metal shells are the same as frontglass

[oak timber]

i want a 406P with inline triggers :\

im probably in the minority

[graceful kiln]

Be careful, you're going to will a metal frontglass handheld into existence

[autumn sierra]

inline triggers hurt

they genuinely hurt to use idk why people want them back

[autumn sierra]

ayaneo already taking notes for their next handheld only 50 people buy

[oak timber]

to fit my pocket

and it doesnt hurt me

[hexed bronze]

I feel like inline triggers on stronger handhelds kinda died out

Kinda sad but the flat slab, candy bar era seems to be over

[autumn sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ripbozol-gif-24410340

wait actually

its not dead

[prime hound]

Me too. And as I mentioned just above, I have doubts about 720p beeing enough for shaders. On 1080p, the AetherSX2 triangle mask works fine but I am afraid that it won't be so good with 720p.

[autumn sierra]

the saviors of the candybar are magicx and powkiddy 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[undone lake]

you might be right.

[hexed bronze]

Powkiddy are gonna wait for the rp5 pre sale to end though so the rp5 will be $225 and seem way more expensive

That’s just a guess though

Maybe they’ll cancel the Max4 entirely

[autumn sierra]

i thought it already ended

😭

[hexed bronze]

Nah they have to ship out all pre orders first

[autumn sierra]

ohh

[hexed bronze]

You can still use code RP5SAVE10

[autumn sierra]

i am still neutral on the 5 because of its design ngl

[hexed bronze]

Until probably the end of the month

[hexed bronze]

This week reviews will drop

Maybe next week Monday or Tuesday

But in sure reviewers are exited and want to get this out quickly

Unlike with the 406v where some reviewers even forgot they had it

[tepid plover]

he mostly shares stuff from chinese social media

including lots of weird mockups

like Ayn Cube here

[hexed bronze]

Yeah and it’s very hit or miss

[autumn sierra]

bobert wulf

[hexed bronze]

I was referring to someone with less hair

Think he didn’t want his review unit

[autumn sierra]

the joebert

i think a good chunk of the community is starting to get sick of anbernics shit ngl

[lost turtle]

I dont understand it to be honest, I mean they dont have to buy every single handheld and having more choice should be a good thing.

I mean it could be bad for their competitors but for us consumers its definetly good

[undone lake]

yeah, if anything they should have more choice - I think a lot of people would be happy if there was a dpad top 406h sku as well as the stick top one

or a flatter 406

maybe those could be the same - an RG retro with recessed sticks, inline shoulders, dpad top but still t820 and 4:3

(I know the RG stands for 'retro game')

[lost turtle]

Bob got confused and thought it will be almost the same as rg40xxV xD

[hexed bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457672688656187392/1299880032918962299/image0.gif

[oak timber]

the pocket micro is gross tho. I literally just want the 405M but T820 or 865, plastic with 4" 720p screen 😦

[lost turtle]

I believe the issue with more T820 handhelds is that they are more expensive to produce than H700, so its harder to return investment

[oak timber]

that would be endgame for me

[hexed bronze]

Stick or dpad up top?

[oak timber]

im not partial to either.

[final valve]

straight to jail

[oak timber]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-6533142189269812111

[hexed bronze]

Maybe the KT-R2 will be the closest to that 😆

[oak timber]

4.5" aghhhh not pocketable lol

that said, im quite happy w/ my 405m and games I can play.

[lost turtle]

you guys remember that they are also making 3:2 device, right, it leaked a while ago with rg406 and its screen specs

[oak timber]

what series is 3:2?

and screen size

[terse flame]

GT was always and still is hated because the dub is total dogshit and completely changes the story and characters by making them all heroic, edgy and super wordy

Sub is a lot better though

and super was just that bad that it ended up boosting GT stocks ngl

[oak timber]

i got confused by the Netflix show cuz I never watched GT but since they were chibi in GT i assumed this was GT lol

[terse flame]

nobody was chibi in gt?

[oak timber]

i thought the premise of GT was goku was a kid again

[terse flame]

other than goku ig, who wasnt chibi he was deaged

[graceful kiln]

I liked Super :(

[terse flame]

daima goku is actually chibi, because his design doesnt look like he did as a child

despite being turned into a child

[oak timber]

oh

[terse flame]

p weird

[oak timber]

idk i only watched dbz as a kid on tv lol

like in japanese

[terse flame]

they basically turned him into buu saga goten in daima

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-matching-gif-21289325

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-daima-daima-goku-kid-goku-anime-gif-4765006784837591297

[graceful kiln]

Sounds similar to the original Z dub then. I can't handle Dragon Ball subbed though it's so weird to me lol. I should look into the differences though I'm definitely curious

[terse flame]

nah they arent even close

[oak timber]

can someone tell me more about this 3:2 T820 device

[graceful kiln]

The GT dub has Vegeta's "moostache" line so it's goated either way

[oak timber]

what screen size

[terse flame]

if z subbed was a 10, z dubbed would be a 7-8

whereas GT sub to dub is like 10 to 3

[oak timber]

z sucked CMM

the Z remake was good. where they cut out all the fluff

[terse flame]

goku becomes an edgy philosopher who monologues about moral equivalence and stuff

[oak timber]

where can isee more about this? 3:2 what screen size?

[terse flame]

so bad lol

anyway, top stick supremacy for the rg406

yippee

[oak timber]

hehe yeah honestly for GC and N64 top stick is preferable

and PS2

[terse flame]

and wii

and gba(if you want to use the stick)

nds

yadayada

[lofty zinc]

sean schemmel voicing Goku mimicking Batman giving a Superman speech.

[lost turtle]

I think we only got the resolution for it:

I'm sure they will release right before MagicX Mini32 (to undercut their sales like they did with Z1 Unicorn)

[oak timber]

im only interested in T820 or better device under $200 lol

[glossy ore]

It's not really possible for them to come out with a device to make everyone happy, so they may as well pick the one they think will sell best, then some competitor will come and do it with the other configuration, and us as consumers get the win

[hallow charm]

People gave anbernic so much shit for not doing stacked triggers that they eventually gave in

[winter anvil]

Gotta admit, depending on the screen size I'd probably pick that one over the 406

But I don't think anything has been ever mentioned about Anbernic doing 3:2 since then

[final valve]

you know what would be based? if that 3:2 was just a fat tablet and we could bring our own controller attachment for horizontal or vertical attachment.

[oak timber]

what about a 3:2 that could be configured both ways 😮

with the included controller

[autumn sierra]

i want a 3:2 the long way

[undone lake]

I wonder what size and what chipset they'd use for it

[autumn sierra]

do you have to ask

😭

[undone lake]

I mean it might be t820, or it might be h700, or it might be whatever they're switching to after those for their flagship and budget lines.

so four options, two of which we are completely unaware of

[autumn sierra]

the unisoc t620:

[undone lake]

I'm very curious what comes after the h700 in their budget handhelds. I hope it can do the full psp library (maybe barring 1 or 2 outlier games) at 2x.

[autumn sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/toji-toji-fushiguro-toji-zenin-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-gif-1058700768535777896

[undone lake]

t620 would work for budget

no more some n64/dc/psp

[autumn sierra]

if that one slop handheld can get it anbernic could also

[undone lake]

I'm surprised we didn't see more t610 budget stuff after the 2s

[autumn sierra]

honestly same

[undone lake]

that chip would basically be good enough for anything I care about

[autumn sierra]

but maybe no more phones with it were being made?

[undone lake]

I don't need ps2/gc on a handheld (at least not a smaller one than my ally X)

[autumn sierra]

oh shit here we go
https://www.indiatvnews.com/amp/technology/news/vivo-y19s-launched-with-unisoc-t612-chip-5500mah-battery-and-more-details-2024-10-17-957662

[half cedar]

Babe new Anbernic XXX line just dropped

What would a successor to the XX lineup look like?

[oak timber]

Unisoc Tiger T612
245849
CPU 90803
GPU 22938
Memory 67101
UX 65007
Total score 245849

Unisoc Tiger T618
271632
CPU 79359
GPU 48246
Memory 64278
UX 79749
Total score 271632

better CPU worse GPU

[glossy ore]

Basically something either cheaper, or slightly better at N64, Dreamcast, and PSP? Similar to the G99 or T618? The H700 is similar performance to the 3566, but cheaper.

[oak timber]

MediaTek Helio G99
420096
CPU 122923
GPU 65033
Memory 112950
UX 119190
Total score 420096

nowhere near G99's league yet.

[winter anvil]

Yeah, but unless they're willing to abandon Linux on these, I'm not sure if there's a cheap option that can do those and be small (so no RK3576 or something)

[undone lake]

yeah it's a pickle

they won't want to switch to android and have to put touchscreens and emmcs in all these either

[autumn sierra]

these are 4 budget handheld

[glossy ore]

H700 is pretty much in an ideal place, the cost to get a meaningfully more powerful chip is just too high (for a budget device). I could see them switching entirely to android though, get all their products on one platform.

[oak timber]

i want to see a G99 handheld in the $150 range

If Alldocube can make a $99 G99 tablet...

[half cedar]

I like the simplicity of Linux on the cheaper devices

[oak timber]

if i was only setting up retroarch like on cheaper devices, there was literally zero setup on GammaOS.

[half cedar]

All the right emulators already set up for you, PortMaster support too

[oak timber]

it was all preloaded

only needed to install non retroarch stuff.

yah, portmaster is amazing tho

one reason to look at RP mini/rp5 is linux support

[autumn sierra]

... the zpg unicorn

and it got crushed by the rg cube 🤔😭

[oak timber]

was there a reason it didnt do well?

it doesnt seem to even be available anymore

[half cedar]

Man I wish Retroid released a bigger 4:3 device

[oak timber]

G99 seems to be a perfect mid-range chip,

[undone lake]

small company without the same brand recognition as anbernic, microswitch buttons, endless delays and availability issues, always gonna be niche because 1:1

very different than if anbernic or powkiddy did a 3:2 g99 ayaneo pocket micro competitor

[oak timber]

idek who the pocket micro is for

I still want an RG406P with inline triggers 😛

[twin kestrel]

dont make people hopeful on the kt

[tepid plover]

10" 1440p 4:3 hanhdeld?

[twin kestrel]

3:2 anbernic handheld? just the old 351 stuff iirc

[oak timber]

4" 4:3 720p bezel-less phone shaped T820/865 OLED inline trigger device that weighs less than 300g

stick top

[hallow charm]

Odds are that there wasn't the stock and/or scope for it to drop down from rp2s pricing down to XX pricing

A 3:2 handheld that wasn't an overpriced boxy and pointlessly metal thing would be very nice

[lusty condor]

I don't like the grandstanding videos where these reviewers state they are stopping to review these products to "send a message to Anbernic" as if there is anything at all negative with Anbernic making a ton of fun devices that people love to collect and even just watch content about. They are also continuously providing higher quality at lower prices and forcing companies like Powkiddy to improve imo.

If a reviewer stops reviewing these devices because of lack of interest from them or their audience, then I completely understand that and am not talking about them.

[terse flame]

like a 3:2 brick that has magnetic attachment points on all sides for the controllers?

[oak timber]

yeah, some way of attaching, anyway.

[twin kestrel]

i am once again asking for a modular handheld

why settle for 2 sticks

[oak timber]

how many of you would buy a 4" 4:3 720p bezel-less phone shaped T820/865 performance level OLED? inline trigger device that weighs less than 300g for $200 or less.

[hexed zealot]

Inline triggers for GC/PS2? Big nope. And definitely not for $200.

Don't care for OLED, really.

[undone lake]

I would

I don’t care about ps2/gc

[oak timber]

yeah after seeing how pocketable the 405m is, i dont think i can go any fatter or bigger

405m is peak build quality and size for me

just wish it had a slightly faster cpu

and 720p screen would be nice too

[versed walrus]

I could defintely see it getting stale for reviewers in the current landscape of snapdragon, T820 and H700 everything with different formfactors

[tepid plover]

in taht case you could probably go for lower SoC ... those tho seem overkill at that stage

[normal trout]

I'd commit war crimes for a 4" square smartphone

[tepid plover]

i would want just regular small smartophone

and not the modern 7"+ paddles everywhere

[undone lake]

The problem is going for a lower SoC usually gets you worse controls/screens since those improve over time and also you barely get any price break for going back a gen. Like buying a 405v vs 406v right now I don’t care about t618 vs t820 but the 406 has controller and screen improvements I want.

(And the “discount” for going back to the 405v is not significant)

Having overkill level power also tends to help with battery life, shaders, general OS snappiness, fast forward, etc

[tepid plover]

true bu i guess we might be changin for next year at least from the screen point of vie seemingly 🙂

will be interesting to watch

[undone lake]

Yeah, I just hope improvements doesn’t translate to “never making a flat pocketable device again because people won’t shut up about wanting taller sticks and analog triggers on every handheld”

I want a flat pocketable widescreen candybar for psp+gba

[oak timber]

i guess a 4" square phone would work too just add a vise-style controller lol

[tepid plover]

funnyily enough now that you mentioned it i basically plan to move from 405v to 406v just for the sticks and screen 😄

[undone lake]

The new screen is so good

[tepid plover]

(as part of my consolodiation of verticals to just 406v and trimui brick)

[undone lake]

Integer scales GBC, gba, gamegear, and psp

[twin kestrel]

hear me out
inline analog triggers

[undone lake]

I’m down

[twin kestrel]

retractable full sized sticks

[oak timber]

PSP style flat stick

https://tenor.com/view/johny-gif-27696534

[undone lake]

Turtle beach did this for their latest gamepad

[tepid plover]

which will be basically paid for drirectly by selling all of my current verticals i will be replacing 😄

[undone lake]

Right now my setup is 28xx, 406v, ally X

[twin kestrel]

28xx/ktr1/odin2
hopefully gonna be
28xx/406h/odin2

[oak timber]

rgb10x, 405m, steam deck. for me. waiting on a flip device that's better than rg35xxsp

[twin kestrel]

had a couple windows handhelds the past year or so, just never ended up using them as much

[pliant forum]

35xx SP, O2 Mini, Loki Max

[oak timber]

heh, seems like everyone has 3 devicese

[pliant forum]

I have many more

[tepid plover]

my current "in my work bag " traveling with me daily setup is 35xx , SDOled and RG Cube

[normal trout]

my main 2 are 406V and steam deck

[undone lake]

I’d love to replace my current 3 with a flip 2 or equivalent so I don’t have to pick between powerful and pocketable, and replace the X with a tablet form factor if someone makes a good one (legion go 2/3 if they can catch up to asus in other ways like battery, fan noise, etc)

[pliant forum]

I'm gifting my 406V to my brother in law
He loves the steam deck so it's only fitting

[oak timber]

i love the steam deck's power, but i like the 405m's size/screen ratio. both serve different purposes. i take my 405M outside while steam deck stays home

rgb10x is just a fun little linux device for portmaster

[tepid plover]

but i will be changing it up soon .... with RPMini arriving in day or two

[oak timber]

ill probably gift that to someone this christmas.

[tepid plover]

and will be switching SDOled and LenovoGo with my gf next time we meet (she got caught playing Balatro at work during meeting so we are changing that as part of her balatro detox)

[oak timber]

i have balatro on my rgb10x 🤣

[pliant forum]

Balatro 28XX duh

[oak timber]

^ easier to hide

[tepid plover]

we only have the orange one 😄

[pliant forum]

Balatro to Thumby port when

[tepid plover]

the colour gives it away too much

[pliant forum]

[tepid plover]

and its clicky clacky vs the LeGo tablet screen

[pliant forum]

Also fair

[wispy cipher]

wow another anbernic device

[autumn sierra]

this is the most traction ive seen from a rumor thread for one 😭

well the 406v one was also nuts because sniffer and pope

[half cedar]

The people are starving for better 4:3 devices

[undone lake]

https://tenor.com/view/you-rang-gif-20538562

[autumn sierra]

the rp mini in the room

its insane how that screen is flawed for shaders

[undone lake]

it might be fixable

we still don't know

[autumn sierra]

like if you dont use em it doesnt matter but if you do its a dealbreaker

[undone lake]

you can't really integer scale on it right now either unfortunately

so it's not just shader people in trouble, it's anyone who cares about pixel presentation

[autumn sierra]

again, anbernic survives through dumb luck

[undone lake]

I don't think anbernic thinks about retroid at all - there are entire countries retroid does not even ship to where anbernic probably sells more in a month than retroid does in a year

retroid is small potatoes compared to anbernic on sheer volume

[half cedar]

The 0.3" makes a big difference

[verbal kite]

LOL

[tepid plover]

not that big difference when you account for whats actually displayed

[tepid plover]

although my snaptool straight line drawing is msiserable 😄

[lost turtle]

Actually bigger difference than 3.7 vs 3.5:

[tepid plover]

It's math , yeah ... I just wanted to account for what's actually displayed

[winter anvil]

RPM had >6K messages in under three days, that one was crazy

Nothing compares to this though

[winter anvil]

Logically that would make sense, but in practice Anbernic is sometimes driven by sheer pettiness

Like, ZPG is even smaller in both scale and store presence and yet Anbernic went after them

[twin kestrel]

i wouldnt mind if they went after the ktr1 but i guess its not relevant for them

406h wouldve been the one besides stacked shoulders

[winter anvil]

ZPG needs to merely announce a 3:2 G99 handheld, that would set the wheels in motion

They don't even have to do it

Just make a 3D render and post it a couple of times on Baidu

That would be enough for Max to enter his rage mode

One day we'll make a documentary on it, the title should be "Ass versus urine: the Baidu wars"