Switch 2

[proper bear]

I did too, depends on my fun money when i actually get notified XD

[stark flicker]

I have a physical copy of Fire Emblem Fates Special Edition. I just looked up prices and it seems I can sell it for about as much as Switch 2?

[timber steppe]

Fsr it can

[proper bear]

It's now a race between switch 2 and onexsugar, lol

[stark flicker]

no, not stably. fsr doesn't give it more cpu headroom.

Even at lowest of low settings i can't get 40fps steady in elden ring

[timber steppe]

I meant frame gen

[stark flicker]

framegen on 30fps content 💀

[timber steppe]

But frame gen is hit or miss lol

Yea

[leaden kiln]

You have to get 720p to get 40fps or steady 30fps

[timber steppe]

Sometime it looks ok other times it doesn’t

[leaden kiln]

It's like this steam deck is like xbox one s or og ps4 some of them would do 1080p to 900p but mostly would do 720p

When it comes to docked

[timber steppe]

The game share is nice where you can do like Mario with 3 other people on your game

[proper bear]

the local share is dope

i also like the digital cartridges for the fam

i mean i guess you can sell digital games in person now too

[leaden kiln]

People can get angry at nintendo for some games not being cartridges and stuff I get it I saw it on switch 1 games but in the end of the day switch 2 would be last system properly handheld to support physical media

[proper bear]

sell games on ebay "please send back switch when done"

[leaden kiln]

I'm more shocked that star wars outlaws is coming to switch 2

Ridge Racer as well

[coarse lion]

bro it is only an hdmi with fan 😭

[elfin bronze]

Believe me the games they announced were great. First parry and third party support are there.

It's just the prices

[coarse lion]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[leaden kiln]

Prices I know people would be annoyed with it

I'm not tho £395 for base and 429 for bundle is good deal for me

Game prices yeah vio

[leaden kiln]

My one was new James bond that got me saying nintendo got me right there

[open osprey]

Just woke up from a nap and im not really pissed at the console prices (kinda expected those with looming tariffs, inflation, and all), but the game prices are a little eeeeeh

[leaden kiln]

Yes game prices was like Jesus

[coarse lion]

that game has not shown gameplay for many years, the worst thing is that it still does not have a defined title lmao

I doubt it will be called Project 007

[open osprey]

I think we might have a 3ds situation where after a few months of low sales, Nintendo might slash it by a solid amount

[leaden kiln]

Making it worse if I buy the base model 395 and mario kart world separately it would be more than bundle alone

[open osprey]

Its just

Senseable

To buy the bundle

[leaden kiln]

I don't care its project 007 007 in Spanish or French 007 I need that

[proper bear]

ehhhh

[open osprey]

I was responding to Ghetto

[coarse lion]

proyecto cero cero siete 🔥

I need that game dawg

[proper bear]

ah, yeah, i went no bundle. Won't be playing mario kart but working through backlog, by the time i want to buy new games there will be more stuff i'm interested in XD

[coarse lion]

I don't think we have a release date for Perfect Dark yet

[leaden kiln]

It's been 15 years since we got brand new game for 007 and I'm not counting that 007 remake for ps3

[proper bear]

or i pick up mario kart on black friday for probably around the same price and physical

That's assuming games don't cost $120 by then

[glass turret]

I imagine Nintendo might sneakily increase the US RRP for the Switch 2 soon.

[open osprey]

For me, New Mario Kart + working through my backlog of Switch 1 games will be my main goal until things level out. Especially since there are a ton of great Switch 1 games that will benefit from the 2

[proper bear]

yeah, the backlog def helps with the decision

[leaden kiln]

👀👀👀👀

[glass turret]

China tariff before this announcement was at 20% I believe?

[open osprey]

The 450 is the recommended price (with the idea that tariffs will come into play) so I think they trying to play ahead of them

[leaden kiln]

This one and since this is my first time owing a switch this I'd perfect decison

[uncut swallow]

dont they manufacture switches in vietnam?

rip

[proper bear]

Yeah, nobody wants everything to get scalped and then have tarrifs doubling force them to raise prices after that

[proper bear]

Some of them, but the majority is still china

[glass turret]

That would be even worse for Americans

[proper bear]

whose to say vietnam isn't next on tarrif list anyway

[leaden kiln]

Uk 10%

[glass turret]

Clothes and shoes are mostly made in Vietnam and Bangladesh now.

[uncut swallow]

they are getting hit more than china

[proper bear]

Mexico

too

[proper bear]

lol, didn't even know

[uncut swallow]

i remember reading about factories being moved there by the end of covid

[glass turret]

46%. THem Nike's about to increase in price 1.5x

[leaden kiln]

So this will after switch 2 launch

Or before

[proper bear]

fuck me, i don't wanna buy american everything, it's expensive as shit, and is still garbage

WHYYYYYYY

[glass turret]

From what I'm reading, it's immediate as of now.

[proper bear]

tarrifs are today

woooohoooo

[leaden kiln]

Oh calm 10% for uk I can take that

[open osprey]

Yaaaaay /s

[proper bear]

overseas and under 800 is quickly becoming the only option while it lasts

[torn wraith]

Looks like Tariffs are just for everything now even games will be part of this tariffs

[uncut swallow]

switch dirrect and tarriff direct

[open osprey]

Nightmare

[uncut swallow]

the best kind of directs

[torn wraith]

I’ll be driving to Mexico for games now

[leaden kiln]

In fact trump got elected and decided to do this just fucked everyone over is funny to me

[proper bear]

ok, this is kinda cute

[leaden kiln]

Personally I wouldn't have that

[proper bear]

i mean he said he'd do it, and his base was like YEAH LETS GOOOOO

[glass turret]

Americans have until May 2nd
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-closes-de-minimis-exemptions-to-combat-chinas-role-in-americas-synthetic-opioid-crisis/

[proper bear]

but they don't think too far past the minute

[proper bear]

fuck me, well, gg handhelds

it was fun

[leaden kiln]

That's why I'm laughing because I knew this would happen

[glass turret]

Y'all better be doing your shopping now.

[proper bear]

more like, it better have already shipped

my refurbed new 3ds not gonna make it

poor boy

[glass turret]

Shipped with DHL. Even paying extra for shipping with DHL will be cheaper than the tariffs

[proper bear]

will have to put it down

[glass turret]

DHL be cashing in

[proper bear]

they still make you pay tarrifs

they did last time

[heady snow]

Okay im buying that

[proper bear]

the only hope is getting your shit packed in freight by boat and praying, lol

[leaden kiln]

They already started in ail express but luckily the price adjustment is there

[glass turret]

Thank Jeebus I'm not American then

[leaden kiln]

Me too

[proper bear]

yeah man, i'm jealous

[heady snow]

Fuck

[proper bear]

we were talking bout 3rd world earlier, but we'll be there soon

[open osprey]

I wish I wasn't rn

[leaden kiln]

I can't imagine to get fucked like this

[proper bear]

and fucked with no plan, like zero plan

if there is a plan, it's guaranteed one that gets a bunch of rich buddies richer

[leaden kiln]

I wish people who voted trump I wish I can see their faces

I would laugh at them

[proper bear]

i dunno man, it's a cult, i don't think it'll matter

[glass turret]

That has always been the plan

ANyway, I guess more motivation for y'all to buy the Switch 2 earlier. Early bird discount. Dodge the tariffs!

[leaden kiln]

Innit

[heady snow]

How will this impact super sp production

[glass turret]

Production unaffected. Final price tag affected

[proper bear]

No english pack now, we gotta all learn chinese

just for US

[leaden kiln]

Get ready to learn Chinese buddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[heady snow]

I am seriously concerned about the onexsugar price now though

[proper bear]

oh, with the dropping of de minimis, i'm out, lol

unless i can find a country to proxy it through with no tarrifs

are we tarrifing luxembourg?

madagascar?

[glass turret]

All countries getting a blanket 10% I believe

[proper bear]

[glass turret]

The proxy business about to boom.

[heady snow]

I hate it here

[open osprey]

This man is gonna kill us and he doesn't care

[proper bear]

And thus a thousand Luigis were born XD

[open osprey]

10,000

[proper bear]

could get nutty , yeah

[glass turret]

Civil War the film looking less and less like fiction by the day

[tawny halo]

https://youtu.be/ay854sG_dDc?si=6bv6qtYlcMcGiYMA had to laugh at the kill switch reveal. They have a dock extender that puts switch on the outside. So means it will heat up and not get cooling from dock 😅

I guess this what happens when all you have is a 3d model sent to you

Case itself is nice though

[proper bear]

yeah, i'd maybe get the case, but def gonna need to take it off when docking

[leaden kiln]

The way dbrand was dying to release this 😭😭😭😭😭🤣

[tame roost]

fan in the dock is a really good idea tho, glad they did it this time

[tawny halo]

Just got 256gb sd express from Amazon italy. As works out to be £55. On UK amazon same card is £80. Imagine nintendo will also be priced around same

Just a tip

[leaden kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-gif-5392520373994684121

[tawny halo]

I’ll DM you a link

[glass turret]

Buy them memory cards before tariffs hit!

[tawny halo]

Yes shop around now. Prices about to sky rocket. SD express is already really expensive 😅

[feral umbra]

I have a 1 TB MicroSD card ready

[tawny halo]

Sd express?

Standard ones wont work

[glass turret]

Won't work in the Switch 2 unless it's SDExpress

[tawny halo]

Sandisk sell max of 256gb. Lexar sell up to 1TB. But its almost half the cost of a switch 2 😅

Nabbed a 256gb one while prices still ok. Bet they will skyrocket tomorrow though

[rugged pilot]

Oof, considering there are some digital only games, imagine storage will be a premium

[feral umbra]

Wtf is SD Express

[tawny halo]

Yep, express is expensive

[feral umbra]

And why is it like this

[tawny halo]

Speeds

[rugged pilot]

Like 10x speed

[rugged pilot]

So there's nothing in between huh, just $60 or $200

[stark flicker]

sd express cards not even available in canada amazon

[rugged pilot]

I didn't even know they existed until this morning

[tawny halo]

I live in UK but am importing one from Italy. Just to get a decent price 🤣

[feral umbra]

It's this one

https://a.co/d/6Xzk0V4

Which from what I see

It's not SD Express

[rugged pilot]

Oh Lexar has some in between

[tawny halo]

Not sd express

[glass turret]

Won't work

[rugged pilot]

512 for $100

[tawny halo]

They have an EX on them

[stark flicker]

Lexar has 1tb express for $200 on amazon usa.

[rugged pilot]

Yeah if you go to listing they have 512 and 256 options too, the 256 lexar is $10 cheaper than SanDisk

[stark flicker]

imo if you're buying you should just go for the 1tb.

[tawny halo]

Prices will go up tomorrow i bet

[stark flicker]

otherwise just suffer with the built in 256gb

[tawny halo]

1tb express is crazy expensive

[rugged pilot]

I mean 256 still doubling your storage. I don't even know If I'll be able to get my hands on a switch 2 right away at this point lol

[glass turret]

For Lexar

[stark flicker]

surprisingly linear cost increase

[tawny halo]

£80 in UK for 256gb atm

[rugged pilot]

this one already sold out at BB? Or maybe was never available yet

[south notch]

if switch 2 has hot swap SD cards I think I'd go for a single 512gb at launch and then get another when it goes on sale

[feral umbra]

You know what

I'll be fine with the built-in 256 GBs

[south notch]

I know I won't

[tawny halo]

Even 512gb is £100 atm in UK. Crazy prices

[rugged pilot]

Fudge do I really want to spend $100 today on a card out of fomo 'just in case'

[glass turret]

Prices will go up short term due to tariffs, then long term (5 years or so) it'll go down

[feral umbra]

I'm not spending that much for 256 GBs

[glass turret]

Well. Depends on the camera industry really.

[tawny halo]

I got a 256gb one for now. Thats still double storage

[feral umbra]

Fuck that shit

[glass turret]

Memory card prices only go down if the memory card is widely adopted by the camera industry.

[tawny halo]

Will get a better one at later stage

[rugged pilot]

high end cams already using CFexpress

[glass turret]

MicroSD isn't exactly popular with camera manufacturers.

[feral umbra]

I'll buy your 256 GB one when you do

Guranteed

[glass turret]

I can't imagine MicroSD Express will be

[tawny halo]

I think from my understanding. Switch one games will be fine on a regular sd. So maybe hot swapping?

Its just switch 2 games that need express

[rugged pilot]

Pretty sure they said sw2 will NOT be compatible with reg mSD

[glass turret]

No. You can't physically use microSD cards in the Switch 2

they've got a different contact layout

[tawny halo]

Oh really?

Ah i read a bad news article

😅

[rugged pilot]

Technically the standard is made to be backwards compatible, but I think nintendo said screw that

[glass turret]

Yeah. Because the standard hasn't been finalised yet lol

[feral umbra]

This is legit NVMe SSD prices

[glass turret]

It's suppose to be backwards compatible but Nintendo DGAF

[rugged pilot]

Hmm, 256 or 512. The price is linear so, no real loss there

Wonder how big the games are gonna be

[feral umbra]

this is kind of a dealbreaker

jeez

[rugged pilot]

switch 1 games were anywhere from a gig to like.. almost 20 gigs?

[feral umbra]

Some were 30 GB or more

[tawny halo]

Yeah zelda was like 30gb’s i think

[rugged pilot]

None of my 'backups' are that large

[glass turret]

I assume 1.5x bigger than what they currently are since they're going from 720 to 1080?

[rugged pilot]

I mean, more res doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be bigger, rendering bigger doesn't take up more space. Majority of filesize is textures and audio and such

[feral umbra]

I'll just buy a used MicroSD Express card at some point

[glass turret]

Fair point.

[tawny halo]

Remember there is now 256gb compared to the 32gb originally, thats probs going to feel like loads of room 😅

Even with no card

[rugged pilot]

I mean if the games are an average 10-20gb, that's still a dozen games

[feral umbra]

Yeah I'll be fine

[rugged pilot]

And hopefully we can still get a decent amount of games physical carts? ehh?? I wonder how many games are going to be the digital code only.

[feral umbra]

I am not paying $90 for a game where possible

[rugged pilot]

Also, maybe this is why the physical mariokart game is so expensive, they're using sd express under the hood?

[elfin bronze]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendo-switch-2s-editions-of-switch-games-like-zelda-and-kirby-cost-80/

80 dollars for Kirby lol

[plush schooner]

That game key concept is nefarious

[tawny halo]

I thought the carts were essentially glorified sd cards anyhow 🤷🏻‍♂️

That taste bad

😅

[feral umbra]

Agreed they tasted awful

Or so I'm told

[plush schooner]

I only ate 2 or 3 of them

[tawny halo]

👀

[feral umbra]

😅

[tawny halo]

For science

[feral umbra]

It was the aftertaste that was worse

[rugged pilot]

I just wish we had an idea of what game sizes wil lbe

[feral umbra]

Again or so I'm told

[feral umbra]

I mean if the console is backwards compatible it should be similar to Switch 1 carts

[rugged pilot]

How does that figure, backwards compatible doesn't preclude new games from being bigger

[feral umbra]

Unless they're pulling a Nintendo DS and having 2 slots

Or a 3DS with a slightly altered cart

[plush schooner]

Carts were announced to be the same size

[rugged pilot]

Nah, they'll use the same pins to communicate, but the sw2 carts will have faster speeds/more pins or whatever to enable sd express speeds.

[tawny halo]

Im colourblind. So the whole red carts thing doesnt really matter 😅 still going to mix them up

[feral umbra]

Not really

[rugged pilot]

Flashback... I remember paying $50 for a 256 MEGABYTE SD Card for my first DSLR...

[tawny halo]

Woo! One positive is my game cart holders will still be good

I keep my carts in wallet and store cases away safely

[rugged pilot]

Alright, ordered a 256 'just in case' not going to commit to more until I get a confirmed switch 2 order and/or better idea of game sizes.

Delivery date is already a ways out

[tawny halo]

Yeah. Mine is mid april too

So got a few weeks to change mind

If i hear any news

[stark flicker]

cyberpunk is apparently coming in a 60gb cartridge.

honestly if i was buying now i'd just order the 1tb lexar.

[rugged pilot]

Well I've already beaten that on PC so. meh

First party games prob won't be as big since they don't use a detailed texture heavy style

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe 256 is only enough for 3 games lol

Like CoD lmao

[feral umbra]

And if you need a bigger one I will buy said 256 GB off of you

[rugged pilot]

In the past I never considered buying/selling microSD used, but at these prices, maybe

[tawny halo]

Not according to Nintendo 😅

Then again they are all switch 1 games in picture

[proper bear]

again, depends what 3 games

[rugged pilot]

I think those games thicknesses are actually proportionate to their size, huh

It's fine, game hoarding is a disease

I don't need 1tb

Maybe someone can come up with an SD Express to M.2 Adapter cable!

we can rig up 2280 drives to the back of our switches

lol

[feral umbra]

You see the vision

[heady snow]

External ssd maybe 🤔

[manic lantern]

Wasn't the witcher 3 or something barely squeezed onto the 32gb cart?

[minor bay]

Imagine paying a tariff on a cart and still having to dl 60gb

[proper bear]

Man. Don't look at the replies to pricing on Twitter right now. People are so dumb on there

[glass turret]

Ew Twitter

[minor bay]

Glad to say I went cold turkey off twitter when the rat bought it

[elfin bronze]

The switch would go up 50 dollars for every price complaint

I'm surprised nintendo isn't increasing the switch online price.

Or maybe not yet

[proper bear]

I mean they saw these coming. Trump already announced them. Its why they're about $50 more expensive here then elsewhere

Probably raised digital game pricing to get back some profit lost on physical items

[torn wraith]

not yet. They will towards the end of the year when first year sales comes in higher than expected

[proper bear]

Ah switch online. sorry. Misread that

[leaden kiln]

So how switch 2 game key is going to be like this

No cartridges inside

Including marvel vs capcom fighting collection no cartridges

[elfin bronze]

Damn physical is getting more lame

[leaden kiln]

This is usa websites they would have cartridges that require downloads but in uk those ones doesn't have cartridges at all

[elfin bronze]

80/90 for a download code?

What is this college textbooks?

[proper bear]

I don't get it. How is it $90 for physical if there's nothing physical XD

[manic lantern]

Well they currently make those carts in Japan I believe.

[leaden kiln]

Unfortunately it's game size devs doesn't want to everything in cartridges or nintendo know they will have to sacrifice in some countries not having physical cartridges

[leaden kiln]

Yes you are correct

Playasia have physical cartridges

Expect call of juarez gunslinger and Youngblood they have no physical cartridges at all

It's same for xbox as well

Ninja gaiden 2 black sigma doesn't have xbox physical but ps5 have one

[manic lantern]

Hrm.. So it looks like Street Fighter 6 is key card and so is Bravely Default - Flying Fairy HD.

[leaden kiln]

Yes

It's like download code

After that it's offline as long you want to be

The question is what if you want to sell the game now

[manic lantern]

It should be sellable. It seems like this new system just clearly marks the boxes on the front instead of appearing like a scam prior. Before they would try and hide it.

Still it's stupid that Square is continuing to do this, even though the people who would buy Bravely Default want physical.

[leaden kiln]

We don't know but we can hope playasia can have physical cartridges

[compact sable]

This is my question regarding the game sharing as well

[coarse lion]

I hope Bravely Default releases on PC

😔

[compact sable]

Unfortunately, its got to have been expected due to how bad the Switch scene got. We knew they were gonna lock that shiz down

[stark flicker]

not much has changed. you can still sell the cartridge, the key moves with it.

[compact sable]

Didnt they announce that new thing where you can share a game to a family member without the cartridge? Or is that only digital titles?

[stark flicker]

thats virtual gamecards for digital licences

[compact sable]

Oh gotcha, I thought that included physical ones as well

[novel latch]

Well that was a massive disappointment.

[compact sable]

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/68426

This is a nice site they put up

$90 for Joycons hurt thoughh

[leaden kiln]

So someone can use the code your license can be gone correct

[fallen herald]

There is no keying of code, the cart is the code/key. It's not tied to any system/account. You can't play without the card.

[leaden kiln]

Oh oh

[compact sable]

Yeah its basically what Microsoft and Sony have been doing with some of their games

Can't imagine why they did it

[fallen herald]

Not 100%, Sony you can run the disc without any updates even on offline consoles

[compact sable]

There are some titles that require downloads though

[fallen herald]

Yes, but not the norm

[leaden kiln]

Only xbox you have to use internet not all of games

[fallen herald]

The cart is probably too expensive, especially for larger ones... So this download system is for them to cheap out on it...

No idea about bravely default though, can't imagine it using more than 16gb

[leaden kiln]

This is no shock to me like I say in uk some switch 1 games doesn't have cartridges

This is the ones that have cartridges in us thst required to download

[latent remnant]

TBH the game prices kills the whole thing for me. I had been saving to get one, but now I can just use that money for something else

[south notch]

I'm still going in on it

[latent remnant]

And thats why this will keep happening 👍

[south notch]

especially for the games that'll get better performance just through a patch

[latent remnant]

PAID patch

[south notch]

not all games are gonna be like that

Indies can't afford a dodgy manuver like that

honestly I bet it's gonna be just the big ass Nintendo first party games that'll be paid patches

[fallen herald]

I will probably get one, just no idea when (won't be launching until q3 in Asia), and there is still the potential scalper situation.

I will probably only get first party stuff and 3rd party exclusives (for timed ones, those that I like enough to want to play first) on it similar to what I do for switch though

Need wait for the release/analysis, I don't believe there is no "boost mode"

[south notch]

I know the switch 2 is just gonna be another beast of a JRPG machine like the switch 1

oh and if the Atelier Ryza games get performance patches that'd be sick

[latent remnant]

The console price doesnt bother me. I just cant justify 80 bucks for first party games that will never go down in price.

[timber steppe]

Wow I just saw the release date

First day of summer for me

[minor bay]

I mainly used my switch for Indie games, and that’s part of what my Steam deck does now. I’d be lying if I said first party Nintendo stuff was particularly interesting to me these days. So not sure if I’m getting a 2 if I’m honest.

[latent remnant]

especially with no real physical copies

[south notch]

what day?

[timber steppe]

June 5th

[fallen herald]

None of the first party ones goes the empty cart method

[south notch]

three days after my birthday

[timber steppe]

I’m gonna camp out best buy to be the first

[south notch]

Gamestop for me

[timber steppe]

Going at 6am

[south notch]

but I know I'll get a shit load of pro points for the purchase

[timber steppe]

I’m probs gonna get the Mario bundle

[south notch]

I'm thinking of it

[timber steppe]

500 is double what I paid for my ps5 lol

[proper bear]

Can always sell in person with digital cartridges

[south notch]

honestly at launch the game I'm the most excited for, is the new FAST game

[pine cove]

Bro Nintendo did not fuck around with new shit/ third party shit lol. Incredibly good games shown for launch/near launch/soon

[proper bear]

Man. I remember people lining up at Target at like 4AM just for themed 3DSes and Amibos

[south notch]

getting fuckin elden ring on switch

that shit wasn't on my bingo card in the slightest

[timber steppe]

My town is lame so 6am is early enough

[proper bear]

It's such a banger option

[south notch]

I'd take the DS trilogy over ER

[proper bear]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[south notch]

fair

[heady snow]

No dark souls 3 is messed up ngl

[south notch]

but the ultimate pipe dream is Bloodborne on switch2

[proper bear]

At this point people would take Bloodborne on a potato

Id play the shit out of that potato

[south notch]

if it got ported to PC or switch2 I'd preorder it

[timber steppe]

Is Metroid prime coming on release date?

[leaden kiln]

I told you switch 2 will be making up lost time for thrid party games

[heady snow]

Emulation on pc isn't quite there imo

I got a lot of graphic artifacts

[manic lantern]

I feel like the first batch of the Switch 2 is going to attract all the single people w/ disposable income but the games going up in price and the high cost of the Switch 2 is alienating to their main market of children/families.

[timber steppe]

No

[south notch]

the higher cost of games is seriously gonna effect the family sales

[manic lantern]

Who wants their child running outside with a $450 device that can easily be broken?

[timber steppe]

You don’t know how many families will still buy it

[timber steppe]

Many people spend 100s on Barbie’s and stuff

[south notch]

I've seen second graders with smart phones

[timber steppe]

See

Nintendo did 450 because they know it will still sell amazing at that price

[pine cove]

A present is a present. And if they fuck it up just don't get them another or make em work for it lol

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-man-idk-i-dont-know-gif-27358524

[timber steppe]

A lot of poor people spent 1k on ps5s back in 2020

People will find money

[south notch]

considering how much of an upgrade the switch 2 is over the 1, $450 is actually pretty alright

[pine cove]

450 is not bad lol

[heady snow]

The price and the games took this from a must buy to something I'm gonna hold off on for a minute

[manic lantern]

Hrm.. Hard to say really. The economy is really messed up from Covid. People got used to indulging in entertainment goods.

[timber steppe]

How many people drop 1k on a phone for the kid

[manic lantern]

Well in the US it's usually with a family plan.

You get the phone for nothing or super cheap for a 4x person contract.

[timber steppe]

Still dropping 40+ a month for cell data

[heady snow]

It's all of the other stuff that adds up, like the pro controller is $80

[timber steppe]

You can get cheaper switch controllers

Sn30 pro still gonna be 30-40 bucks

I’m scared about the joycons price

[south notch]

did they say if the old switch1 controllers will work with Switch2?

[manic lantern]

They will.

[pine cove]

Don't need everything at once playa

[timber steppe]

I wanna get 2 extra pair

[manic lantern]

In wireless mode.

[pine cove]

Most parents would say you have joy cons lol

[heady snow]

Sure, but a first party xbox controller is like $50, there's no reason for the cost to be that high

[open osprey]

I'll buy the system bundle, buuut games are gonna be a wait for a while measure

[timber steppe]

I mean just use the original for that price

Also I think joycons might be 100 bucks

[manic lantern]

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/68426/~/nintendo-switch-and-nintendo-switch%26nbsp%3B2-accessory-compatibility

[heady snow]

$90 which is still insane

[timber steppe]

Is that confirmed?

[south notch]

yup

that was in the direct

[timber steppe]

Damn

2 extra pair of joycons. The Mario bundle and another game is 750

[south notch]

add a 1tb SDE card for another $200

[heady snow]

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/accessories/

[timber steppe]

Damn near 1k

[heady snow]

Shit ill buy the legion go 2 atp

[timber steppe]

I’ll probs skip the sd cause I don’t play multiple games at a time

[south notch]

I sadly have a bad case of GamerADHD

[heady snow]

Should've had 512gb base honestly

[timber steppe]

We all knew it’d be 256

[heady snow]

Who's we

[timber steppe]

Although I’m not sure the games are gonna be 8 times bigger

[south notch]

I was just praying for more than 64gb

[timber steppe]

So it should still feel more than the og switch

Although that’s not saying much

[heady snow]

The third party games are going to be big big

[south notch]

Cyberpunk

[manic lantern]

Ya. I'd expect that 256gb to be filled quickly, even with Nintendo's compression.

[timber steppe]

They will get it down

[south notch]

doubt

[timber steppe]

Not as quickly as the og 32gb is what I’m saying

[pine cove]

Wonder what the silksong sub is like lol

[south notch]

though they did get Witcher3 down to below 32gb so it fit on the switch cart with no download required

[manic lantern]

Yea, which could be Cyberpunk or they say FU and it's a download key.

[pine cove]

Lmaooo

[south notch]

yeah that's about right

[pine cove]

LMAO

[timber steppe]

No one buying cyberpunk for the switch

[heady snow]

Switch 2 lite though

Cyberpunk in your pocket

[fallen herald]

"hd rumble 2", wonder if it will be at least dualsense haptics standard or maybe even better

[timber steppe]

Gpd win mini

[heady snow]

Sure let me pull out 1k

[timber steppe]

They go for like 650 and by the time a switch 2 lite is out it will probably be the same price

[heady snow]

Used maybe, also probably worse battery life

[timber steppe]

Not if your running 720 upscale

You can get 2 ish hours

[heady snow]

I guess thats true, though x86 handhelds don't feel as conducive to a pocketable pick up and playstyle imo

[timber steppe]

Still little to no point unless your a kid whose parents shop at target and GameStop

[heady snow]

Uh sure

Definitely no other use cases

[gleaming knot]

https://fxtwitter.com/austinjohnplays/status/1907507844389236840

Austin John Plays (@AustinJohnPlays)

Some takeaway thoughts about the Physical VS Digital price difference and regional prices from my video that I wanted to share.

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[pine cove]

What I do find funny is retro handheld enthusiast scoffing at the switch 2 price while owning like 7 h700s and 5 rk3566

[vestal notch]

Switch 2 or retroid flip 2

[compact sable]

I will admit that 449 is a little on the high side. But considering the state of tariffs and all that crap, I think they bumped it $50 late in the launch process

[tame roost]

probably yeah

they are trying to avoid the ps5 scenario where they had to raise the price

and that looked awful for sony

[compact sable]

I also don’t mind the price of the games if they are complete games without DLC that felt like it was ripped away from the core game.

I expect everything in MKW to be unlockable for a year or so before maps are DLC

[proper bear]

Honestly. Nintendo does a good job of releasing complete experiences. Usually the DLC is the fun afterthought it's supposed to be

[glass turret]

Both. If you have money to buy one, you have money to buy the other

[novel crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/307674948934303754/1357125125811474482/Screenshot_20250402_165035_Reddit.jpg?ex=67ef10c4&is=67edbf44&hm=b56b78e0bed18f724d6df3104b4bb740d8e125273ccd9c50984b52346c1620c1&

[true nest]

According to CNBC correspondent Eamon Javers, Press Secretary Leavitt has confirmed that the 34% China tariff is on top of the previous 20% tariff, meaning it will be a 54% rate on China once implimented.

[proper bear]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229

i mean price makes more and more sense. Need to get my company to send me to Japan, haha

[silent otter]

54% tariff on China is unsustainable. Too many products we use are made there. There will be heavy pushback as it affects everyday products more than fancy wine or cars.

[high barn]

Oh good god, you guys made a gif.

[high barn]

Oh god damnit.

Ok yeah, the prices are starting to make more and more sense…

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-punisher-punisher-daredevil-punisher-court-scene-punisher-court-speech-gif-9280760464850102883

[ember perch]

Will the game carts be region free like the Switch 1? Play in whichever language your system is set to? I don't wanna have to import games to play them in English..

[cloud current]

I imagine so

[latent remnant]

Doesn't justify the 80-90 dollar games

[cloud current]

For that language locked Japanese one to be unique in a way that makes it cost less money than the non-locked Japanese one, it would have to be region free by default

[ember perch]

Maybe I should just buy the cheaper Japanese one and suffer until I can read more Kanji... Sigh

[heady snow]

Hopefully those are the exception, I know the dk game is $70 (which still isn't great imo) so I would guess Mario Kart is priced the way it is to get people to buy the bundle

[high barn]

Yup, the Japan-only one is a special case in that it won’t support non-Japanese languages.

[high barn]

That’s what I’m hoping for, even if it’s not likely.

[fallen herald]

Isn't this game dependent even on the switch 1?
I mean the play in whatever language your system is in.

[ember perch]

It is, but 98% of games support more than 1 language

Just wondering if that still be the same going forward

I live in Japan and games are pretty cheap here, be nice if I can play them in English since I'm still years away from fluency

[fallen herald]

I kind of remember seeing quite alot games being strictly in Japanese, Korean, Chinese when browsing the respective Asia eShops, though I didn't really buy them to test

[ember perch]

I guess I only ever play first party stuff anyways, the rest I buy on the steam for achievement hunting

[coarse lion]

I'm going to be a Contrarian, I don't want smash, mario, zelda or pokemon

I want Ring Fit 2 🗣️🔥

[slow flint]

bruh can they really not make switch 1 games playable on regular micro sd?

[spice badge]

? It says switch 2

[slow flint]

I mean it is bad that they are not allowing regular micro sd at all even for switch 1 games

like it seems to be readable on switch 2, just for screenshots and videos

[spice badge]

Express sd cards are way way way faster

[latent remnant]

7-8x faster

[spice badge]

You make hardware that supports both and a user has an issue with conventional sd card, this is how you eliminate that issue all together

[latent remnant]

pricy tho

another reason im waiting or even skipping completely

[spice badge]

It is pricy for sure but I think I saw that their Nintendo branded one was actually cheaper

Than your typical express card

[slow flint]

yeah i know. i predicted it when others were doubting them using express. but switch 1 games should not need that. ps5 could run ps4 games on external hdd.

[fallen herald]

Just detecting and preventing switch 2 games from being installed on a normal microsd would be fine, and help free up internal storage for switch 2 stuff.
Maybe they will add it later 🤷‍♂️

[slow flint]

unless the compatibility layer they use this time really needs that extra speed

[spice badge]

The most reasonable answer I can see is that they will be having very big performance increases on their last gen titles and they just don't want to deal with support for older sd cards

[high barn]

SD Express is a really weird technology because it technically can work as a regular sd card, but because it’s outright wired differently it’s at best the slowest speeds that you can read it if you’re using CFexpress-based readers/cards (the standard for regular sd cards besides express).

[high barn]

In return, it’s significantly faster when you’re using an SD express card in an SD express reader, like genuinely up to around 8x the regular sd card speeds.

[umbral matrix]

From Lexar's official AliExpress store:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuMQNis

£158.79 for the 1TB, annoyingly 21p below the £159 threshold to use the £20 coupon.

You can add this card reader from the same store for 98p:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQOPRna

And then the £20 off coupon works

There's also a store coupon for £1.58

In total I paid £138.19, which I think it as cheap as these cards are gonna get for a while

[rapid pollen]

so for me, a US resident, the 1 tb card shows up at $196.28

[ember perch]

Why does the Switch 2 need SD Express but I can play my Steam games on a regular SD card in my Steam Deck?

[uncut swallow]

my guess is with such low HDD , they need to load the massive huge games straight to memory and basic SD isnt fast enough for that

and going straight to new format ... is choice not to confuse the casual buyers cause requiring something like A2 (on regular) would confuse lot of casual buyers

[tidal tree]

So i dont have to wait 1hr for everyone to load in mariokart online

[hidden current]

Some AliExpress Coupons that might bring the price lower
#1276205605203349596 message

[stark flicker]

remember the import duty (30% or $25 who knows) if it doesn't get in by may 5.

for usa i mean

[tawny halo]

Ok the piranha plant camera looks way cooler. I wonder if this means it will work with any usb c camera

[fallen herald]

Is it just a basic webcam or has any advance depth sensing stuff?

To make up for the removing of the IR sensors in the new joycon.

[slow flint]

my understanding was that express cards will just act like UHS-I cards if used on UHS-I/UHS-II reader (and UHS-I cards should work normally on a reader that supports express). is it somehow worse than that? I mean the switch 1 used UHS-I so I thought maybe letting UHS-I cards at least be used for switch 1 games could have been a good idea (if it is technically possible)

[fallen herald]

Yes, microsd express will just default to ~100mb/s in the typical device/reader (that is not junk).

[slow flint]

yeah and it won't even get UHS-II speed on UHS-II readers coz it is only backwards compatible with UHS-I

[slow flint]

yeah this makes sense. UHS-II and UHS-III use the extra pins differently compared to Express (which uses them for pcie lanes). so technically the card slot on the switch 2 should read UHS-I cards at the same speed as switch 1, right?

I was just thinking if they are not even allowing regular cards for switch 1 games on switch 2. it could have something to do with the compatibility layer needing extra speed compared to running it natively on switch 1

coz even ps5 allowed usb external HDD for ps4 games

I do kinda agree it would cause some confusion. but even as it is right now there are gonna be more casual customers not understanding the difference between cards

[fallen herald]

I don't think so, I doubt the original switch 1 games even need more than 50 or 60 Mbps (there was some article showing the game cart is actually slower than most microsd ).

Even if patched games need higher speed (which I again doubt so), they can always allow it for un-patched games.

Its something that can be added later anyway if they want to, there should not be any technical limitation.

[slow flint]

so you think it is more of a "we have not fully tested yet so we can't promise"?

[fallen herald]

Yep, or maybe just lazy ....

Just like how PS4 cannot even use external drives initially, took them almost 4 years to add the support.

[slow flint]

😂 ok makes sense. I got a 256gb UHS-I A2 card a few weeks ago because I thought they could at least make switch 1 games run on it. kinda disappointed

was thinking of using it until express cards get cheaper

guess I'll just save the card for Anbernic, Odin, or something

and I definitely won't be downloading my whole switch library on switch 2

[iron apex]

Yoo where is this from

[clever geyser]

Thought it said any camera but it’s says any compatible

60$ for the camera hmmm

I find crazy that botw is still full retail price and now come out again for switch 2 for even more… for an 8 year old game

[tawny halo]

Twitter. Leak from german site

[iron apex]

That really look sexy

[slow flint]

oh so the top usb-c should be at least be usb 3.0 right?

since that is where the camera connects to

[true nest]

No one talked about battery life ??

[glass turret]

I salute everyone being a labrat for this pricey console, using a newgen memory card that hasn't been standardised

[leaden kiln]

We did

[glass turret]

I pray for y'all it won't end up being like XQD cards.

[leaden kiln]

It's 2 hours to 6.5 hours of battery life

[true nest]

same battery as Switch 1?

[iron apex]

Honestly 2 hours for Elden ring is fine

[iron apex]

I think it’s 1000mAh bigger

[true nest]

funny Nintendo didnt mention that

[iron apex]

It’s on their website

5220mAh

[leaden kiln]

Bit worse but it's power

And the battery is 19.3whr as well

[rapid pollen]

I saw something about 2 hours to upwards of like 6+ hours depending on how hard you're pushing the hardware

[leaden kiln]

Yes phawx said it

[leaden kiln]

It's bit worse than og switch 1 battery

[iron apex]

How come

Switch 2 needing more power doesn’t make its battery worse, no?

[true nest]

of course every details is on their website. But battery life is important, if they didnt mention it its because its a switch2 flaw

[leaden kiln]

I mean battery life

[leaden kiln]

I mean it's 1080p 120hz vrr on arm device and it's 19.3whr

[iron apex]

Bigger battery would have made it too heavy to hold, it’s more of a compromise than a flaw

[true nest]

It was 4,5 to 9hours for the switch 1

[iron apex]

It’s probably better if you don’t activate 120hz or hdr.

[leaden kiln]

Nah switch 1 was underclocked so they didn't need that power or ram to push the device

[iron apex]

Maybe really demanding games like Elden ring will still require the max tdp

[leaden kiln]

Or watts

But switch 2 power push the watts and ram so nintendo had to sacrifice something to balance it out

[iron apex]

I think we still need more info on handheld mode. They might use like Dlss upscaled 540p video to make their 1080p image instead of it being native

[round sparrow]

That's for the Mariko revision, the launch one was more in line with the switch 2

[leaden kiln]

Handheld mode I think some games like wild hearts and star wars outlaws would be 720p 40fps or 50fps

Best way to compare switch 2 is xbox series s

[iron apex]

that might happen

[leaden kiln]

They can put quality mode or performance mode

[clever geyser]

3 hours to fully charge too

[leaden kiln]

Yh I need more information about that because 3 hours to fully charge doesn't sounds right to me

[true nest]

and what the fuck is this ?? https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/68415/~/nintendo-switch%26nbsp%3B2-game-key-card-overview

[leaden kiln]

Oh some games not all of them would have game key card to download the game

It's common in ps5 xbox series x and even switch 1 games

[round sparrow]

It's been a thing for a while

[leaden kiln]

This is better than having no cartridges at all

That's was my complaint of switch 1 games especially third party games

They would have download code In uk

[true nest]

well u pay full price, but if you want to play that game in 2035+ , I dont think I will be able to play because the download link will be dead 😦

[tidal tree]

Instead of getting a downloadcode you get this, way better solution then empty cartridge boxes

Most games will keep the physical cartridges where the media is loaded onto the chip though

[leaden kiln]

This is like how gamecube situation but this is better solution than sacrifice or take the some content out

[leaden kiln]

Nah this is different it would be like your physical cartridges but those ones require internet first then after that you can play it offline as long you want

[leaden kiln]

Exactly this

[true nest]

so 80/90bucks for an authentication key, not even a game. it sucks.
The game itself isn't included on the game-key card, so you’ll have to download it before you can play.

When you insert the game-key card, further instructions will be displayed on the HOME Menu. Please follow the instructions to download the game.

Please note: to download the game, you must have enough free space in your Nintendo Switch 2 system memory or microSD Express card. The amount of free space required is indicated on the game-key card packaging.

An internet connection is only required when you launch the game for the first time. After this, the game can be started even without an internet connection. However, like regular physical software, the game-key card must be inserted into the system in order to play the game.

hopefully its for few games, like BIG Gig games

[tawny halo]

I still think this is all to stop emulation. Unless an emulator will have a way of authorising they key before launch somehow

[tidal tree]

yea remember any switch1 game that only came in cartridge boxes with game codes? Those are going to be game-key cards..

Its not a issue tbh

the only issue for me is the pricing of games in general 80€/90€ for physcial is alot, but still better then tons of shitty micro transactions and paid dlcs

[unkempt beacon]

you still gonna get paid dlc and micro transactions lol

[true nest]

It sucks because for full price you download the game on ur S2 storage, but u need the Keycard to be able to play. if u forgot ur keycard, u screwed

[tidal tree]

i dont think we get micro transactions in mario kart or donkey kong

[leaden kiln]

Yh it's would be some games

[leaden kiln]

Yh

[tidal tree]

then just buy it digitally

[leaden kiln]

This is better than having no cartridges or game key code just for download code

[true nest]

exactly, so why they dont make them Digitally only

oh i forgot we are cashcow

[leaden kiln]

Unfortunately devs doesn't want that backlash and nintendo also don't want to do that last time people was complaining about having download code

Some countries doesn't have no cartridges at all

[tidal tree]

maybe they will release some cloud games or so where there is no need to bring data on the cartridge itself

i get your point but this is a issue for like 1-3% of games

[leaden kiln]

We don't want to do that

Pls no more cloud games

[tidal tree]

yea its only for games no one would play on a switch anyway lmao

[leaden kiln]

But having game key card is better so devs doesn't need to sacrifice any contents of the game at least nintendo label it so people don't get confused about it

[rapid dawn]

I don't think people have actually been using Switch 1 cartridges?

It sucks because for full price you download the game on ur S2 storage, but u need the Keycard to be able to play. if u forgot ur keycard, u screwed
This is a commonplace issue with Switch 1 games.

Switch 1 Cartridges already don't prevent the game from using a lot of storage.

[leaden kiln]

Plus this would be some case for big aaa games

[true nest]

yes its probably only those ones

[leaden kiln]

So devs doesn't have to spend too much they can do that than wasting money and resources so I expect like cod, assassin creed shadows etc

[tidal tree]

yea like hogwarts legacy or so, but i prefer playing it any other console then the switch

might run decent on S2 though

cod on switch would be crazy lmao

[leaden kiln]

Hogwarts legacy would be 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps with dlss

[leaden kiln]

I wouldn't be surprised at all

People shouldn't be shocked it's not going to be like xbox one drm situation

It is going to be like ps5 or xbox series x/s situation

More like ps5

[true nest]

before make a decision I need a good game catalogue, so Ill wait to 2026. in the meantime I will be watching reviews on YT.
after watched Nintendo live yesterday, only Donkey Kong looks interesting for me.

[umbral matrix]

UK pre-orders up at Argos

https://www.argos.co.uk/list/get-ready-for-nintendo-switch-2?tag=ar:browse:clp:nintendoswitch:m020:cm:nintendo-switch-2

Mario Kart World bundle's out of stock now

[clever geyser]

That was fast

[manic lantern]

I'm curious how evenly the supply was distributed. 🤔

[leaden kiln]

FUCK

[leaden kiln]

But I swear it's April 8th

[tidal tree]

just pre orderd mine

[viscid thorn]

Pass, games are getting more expensive and wages haven't really gone up since they were $50 (and Nintendo being run by fossils will never put their games on sale the way Steam does).

[leaden kiln]

You think nintendo is going to do that

Maybe in the future

[tawny halo]

Only one i trust is amazon to guarantee delivery on time. So waiting on their preorders. I have had it before with argos etc where i preordered. They then found out they didnt have enough allocation and cancelled a load of orders

[umbral matrix]

I think that's the date for the Nintendo Official Store itself. Prob supposed to be the date for other retailers too. Seems like EU and UK don't care as far as I can tell. Don't think I've seen any US preorders mentioned anywhere yet.

[leaden kiln]

That's true

[umbral matrix]

I haven't seen any preorders for the Pro Controller yet or anything else, apart from third party accessories

[viscid thorn]

They won't as long as they think they don't have to.

[leaden kiln]

Unless they fuck switch 2 up I highly doubt it

[clever geyser]

Oh can order it from Argos

[leaden kiln]

I can't believe people don't think switch 2 performance would be like xbox series s

Or outperform steam deck

[clever geyser]

We’ll see once we get actual cyberpunk performance tests

Also bearing in mind the steam deck is 3 years old at this point

[leaden kiln]

True

[umbral matrix]

Looks like the bundle's back in stock (with the standalone console now being out of stock??)

[tidal tree]

i have a feeling that everyone is buying the bundle anyway

[leaden kiln]

I would bought the base model if the physical copy is not expensive 😭😭😭😖

[tidal tree]

buy console wait for game price drops kekw

[tidal tree]

yea same

bundle price is too good

[umbral matrix]

I've ordered the bundle to actually play, but I'm getting a base one too to leave on a low firmware for any potential homebrew shenanigans

[tidal tree]

makes sense

[slow flint]

I'm gonna guess this "customer" was Nintendo

[rapid dawn]

People have been theorizing it was Nintendo ever since Samsung's announcement a year ago.

[leaden kiln]

Yh because of leaks and stuff

And DF mostly

[sweet cradle]

this is peak

[tidal tree]

shouldve just used m2 storage

[slow flint]

hope these cards won't be hot enough to burn my switch 2

anything that's both small and fast is bound to have heat issues

[uncut swallow]

pretty sure there will be a way for that too , at some point

[stark flicker]

According to df, most games don't seem to have any anti aliasing, let alone dlss

[open osprey]

https://youtu.be/DTAaKtKY8Qc

[leaden kiln]

Oh yh they have nintendo switch 2 event experience

[open osprey]

OH

[open osprey]

While an older game, they managed to play Yakuza 0 at 4k 60 docked

[clever geyser]

should be 60 handheld then too

[proper bear]

Well handheld doesn't do 4K. Cause it's not 4K. It'll like do 120Hz for yakuza

Maybe

[open osprey]

OH WOW

[proper bear]

Depends how much of the dock is just scaling. And how much of the extra draw and fan provide raw power

[open osprey]

Apparently for Cyberpunk

The build they showed was only representative of 7 weeks worth of work

[leaden kiln]

7 weeks

Rah

[leaden kiln]

I'm not shocked of that

[open osprey]

https://youtu.be/SiWS73GNdiM

[leaden kiln]

GVG is on the roll

[leaden kiln]

I think it's reason the dock has a fan

They could push the Watts bit higher

[fallen herald]

but are there ventilation holes at the back of the switch where the dock 's fan is located? else probably won't make much of a difference for cooling if you are just blowing on or away from plastic

[leaden kiln]

Probably

[open osprey]

So good news

Not all switch games will be paid upgrades

Some will come as free updates

Examples given in the video were Mario Odyssey, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, and Arms

[fallen herald]

probably those that are just resolution change without any other changes/new stuff i guess

[leaden kiln]

It would be expected

[fallen herald]

hopefully there is a "boost mode" as well for those games that cant even lock at 720p30 on the switch especially in handheld mode

[open osprey]

Performance/Resolution changes

[leaden kiln]

However good question what about witcher 3 batman arkham Knight etc

[open osprey]

Many with the paid upgrade pack will have those + dlc of sorts

Or added content

[fallen herald]

they should at least add some new textures for those that charge money... more useful than those 3d audio, mouse mode or whatever

[odd scaffold]

I'm really hoping backwards compatibility will help even non-upgraded switch 1 games reach their target framerates, gosh I just really want a smoother Brothership experience lol

[pine cove]

Y'all should really just use up the switch 2 internal storage and buy SD cards way later lol

SD cards go down in price quite a bit over time

Don't buy now at its most expensive lol

[slow flint]

they even said there will be a 40fps performance mode. sounds interesting

[leaden kiln]

Yes but quality mode would be 25/30fps

It would like be 1080p

Or 720p in best

[slow flint]

I just hope 40fps will be more common on switch 2. for me it is the sweet spot for non-action games

should work well on the built-in 120hz VRR display but since some TVs and monitors can't do that I just hope game devs won't be too lazy to support a 40hz mode

[leaden kiln]

40fps would be sweet spot but I'm worried wild hurts and star wars outlaws would not be able to hit 40fps but 30fps

Also If it's true alan wake 2 could be the same as well

[slow flint]

these games are on other platforms anyways. if I need performance I can still get them on my pc. regional pricing also kinda sucks on Switch compared to Steam as well

switch 2 right now I would not consider to be a budget handheld at all

[leaden kiln]

Yh true I got xbox series s so it's not too problem

[leaden kiln]

It's not budget handheld like steam deck but it's more like og rog ally and legion go when it comes to uk

[slow flint]

if money is an issue (like if they have a pc that's even weaker than a switch 2), I don't think they should get a switch 2 at all. coz a PC can do way more

[sudden agate]

Nintendo trying their best to help you avoid choice overload

[leaden kiln]

However tho Nintendo has advantages when it's available and people would access it

[sudden agate]

Don't install too many games

[leaden kiln]

The problem is rog ally steam deck and legion go could expensive in other countries

So switch 2 would be best bet for them

[slow flint]

yeah if they really only want a handheld I guess that's true

I just think budget-minded people should just spend the money somewhere else. maybe a desktop pc or a laptop

[leaden kiln]

Or xbox series s

Got 220

[slow flint]

true

right now I just don't see switch 2 being something that most potential customers would consider

[leaden kiln]

To be honest tho people are still going to buy it since it's ps4 handheld level that people been waiting for it and it's nintendo

[undone fox]

Nintendo can sell shit in a bag and it'll sell

[leaden kiln]

Exactly

[slow flint]

I mean...I already preordered because I can afford it. but I can't imagine it would be the same for most of the potential buyers, especially if budget is a concern. I'm not saying it will sell poorly but definitely not as strong as the switch 1 if price stays the same

[leaden kiln]

It would be like 3ds situation unfortunately

[undone fox]

How dare you order something everyone online is riling against 😄

[pine cove]

Not true

Wii u

N64, virtual boy

Many poor sellers

[leaden kiln]

And gamecube

[pine cove]

Yeah lol

[undone fox]

More recent history, but ok 😄

Nintendo has the benefit of the most stockholm syndrome infused fans out there xD it'd have to be a colossal flop to get them to budge on this one. we'll see

[leaden kiln]

But this is handheld so it would be like 3ds situation

It would sell well but not as ds

[slow flint]

I personally think the price of the console itself is just fine tho. everything else not so much

[leaden kiln]

Lucky if they got backlog of switch 1 games they can buy the base but I know everyone would buy bundle

[sudden agate]

Did the alarm clock thing sell well?

[sweet cradle]

wait

since the gpu of the switch 2 has 2 raytracing cores

does that mean it can run Minecraft bedrock ray tracing

[proper bear]

Probably not. But I'm buying one for my kid anyway 😆

[round sparrow]

in theory, but I doubt we'll see many raytraced games on switch 2

[sudden agate]

I consider myself a Nintendo fan and I supported the Wii U through its entire life span but I haven't bought a single Amiibo and I didn't buy the clock.
My only issue with Switch 2 is game price. Everything else in life is already expensive so I can justify them putting a higher price tag but also I can't justify them putting a higher price tag.

[tidal tree]

well many ppl also bought a ps5 pro, which was also hated by the internet. Every company has its hardcore fans

[heady snow]

That's my biggest issue tbh, it's one thing to make the console more expensive, I mean it has been like 8 years, but it seems like everything else is dramatically more expensive as well, like the games, the storage and the accessories

[proper bear]

Makes sense. I mean it sucks. Some of it just out of their hands

[undone fox]

just like food and other things unfortunately

[tidal tree]

the console itself isnt too expensive so ima buy it. i still have to complete alot of switch1 games so i can just wait for the switch2 game prices to settle down a bit

[sudden agate]

We are getting milked! 🐮

[proper bear]

People complain about digital cost increase. But guaranteed they calculated it out to offset the cost of console

[leaden kiln]

Shout out to @winter pecan

[heady snow]

I am glad that there seems to be a fair amount of free upgrades for switch 1 games at least

[proper bear]

It's not a vacuum for each piece. Something people fail to understand sometimes (not here, we're all geniuses)

Yeah. 100%

I think it's a sacrifice they're willing to make to boost adoption. Even things like free upgrades if your an online+ subscriber

[tidal tree]

I dunno how i feel about this though

70€ would be okayish

but 80 is... idk

[pale ivy]

Seems fair, it's really a switch 2 game, not like it ran on the original.

[proper bear]

Yeah. Sorry. That's probably our fault too XD

[heady snow]

Yeah, imo they should give people who already own the game a discount, that's what Sony did

[tidal tree]

yea you can upgrade it, i dunno for how much though

[proper bear]

If you own enough online subscription is probably the better deal

[leaden kiln]

This would be like reversed ps3 situation the games is expensive but console price is okay

Lucky in uk prices it's fine

[slow flint]

seems like all of the games that are getting the paid upgrades are also getting physical releases?

[proper bear]

I'm sure they spread it across everything

[stark flicker]

seems in line with us price at least (base price + 20% vat)

[leaden kiln]

I doubt it

Maybe few

[slow flint]

I meant like so far the ones that were announced

[pale ivy]

I read somewhere there aren't even physical releases, you're just buying a key

[proper bear]

Dunno if Kirby will get a rerelease? Maybe? I might have missed it

[stark flicker]

wrong. thats just some games (so far only bravely default)

[leaden kiln]

Are you sure I thought they would release the physical of switch 2 edition

[proper bear]

Guess they leave it up to the third party

[leaden kiln]

Yes

[proper bear]

Makes sense for some to not pay the extra cost and just basically go digital only

But throws a bone to retailers

[pale ivy]

Not even slightly sure, could be rage bait or people misunderstanding but here's the image with it

[leaden kiln]

Oh that's game key card

[slow flint]

this is just some games tho

not all physical games will be like this

[leaden kiln]

So like street fighter 6 and bravely heart would not get physical cartridges but a game key card

[odd scaffold]

That's a replacement for code in a box releases or publishers just not wanting to release physical at all

[leaden kiln]

Switch 2 edition would have physical cartridges 100%

Can I say 100%

[pale ivy]

That's a relief, hopefully it makes emulation easier

I mean, encourages people to buy from Nintendo

[odd scaffold]

I am curious if the sw2 upgrades will be on the carts themselves or if they'll just be switch 1 version carts with the ability to download the upgrades

[stark flicker]

how would that in any way affect emulation

[slow flint]

I just hope they used an entirely different colour for the game key cartridge

[leaden kiln]

It's both

[tidal tree]

pink

[leaden kiln]

It's would be like metroid prime 4

[slow flint]

and also make sure game-key games are priced same as the digital rather than $10 more

[stark flicker]

same colour i think but specifies that its just a key on box front and maybe cart too

[tidal tree]

well you can resell them after all

[leaden kiln]

Lucky street fighter 6 is not too expensive same with bravely heart

Cyberpunk word on the streets could be £70

Or 60

[undone fox]

this has been fun

[proper bear]

Can resell them in person at least

[slow flint]

I mean you also have risk of losing the cartridge

so overall I would say it should be same value as digital games

[proper bear]

Digital cartridges are dope. Not gonna lie. I mostly appreciate it as a multiple switch household but if I want to sell a game to a friend, or let them borrow it, I have that option

[leaden kiln]

Yes but the problem is if you want to keep it we don't know if it will still playable when servers got off on switch 2 maybe in 10 years time when it comes to game key card

[proper bear]

Switch 3 baby!

Let's start the channel

[heady snow]

Tbf that's when we can basically homebrew

[proper bear]

Haha. Big tru

[leaden kiln]

True hopefully we can hack it at least this one would be most powerful handheld and emulation as well

[slow flint]

homebrew for no longer supported console should be a no brainer

[leaden kiln]

Also If anyone wants to know gamecube online would be support in 16:9 it does

Work

[tidal tree]

well some GC games have native 16:9 support

[leaden kiln]

But yh people was worrying if they would be 4:3 only

[proper bear]

I dunno. This seems like a banger option. Especially considering the backwards compatibility and 50% increase on all direct from China handhelds

If I can squeeze my backlog until sales happen on newer games I think I can make it work. Lol

Or until homebrew

[leaden kiln]

It's like base should be obvious choice but bundle is so tempting

[proper bear]

Yeah. I went base. I know I'm not buying games for a bit. Heh

Maybe will even replay some oldies

I also have switch online+ so that helps

[fallen herald]

Just the usual marketing talk , especially since it's from Nvidia (so don't trust any figures)

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nintendo-switch-2-leveled-up-with-nvidia-ai-powered-dlss-and-4k-gaming/

[slow flint]

at the very least I can enjoy old games on a bigger handheld screen

[leaden kiln]

Serious

[slow flint]

hopefully the ergonomics won't be too bad

[leaden kiln]

Same

[slow flint]

i did not get the switch oled so I will definitely appreciate the upgrades

[leaden kiln]

I didn't even get switch at all

[rustic orchid]

10X seems a bit excessive

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/IGN/status/1907806507686584396?t=onIKWVNDzLayqXICYMbjLw&s=33

IGN (@IGN) on X

Nintendo’s first post-Switch 2 Nintendo Direct Treehouse livestream is being flooded with angry comments from users calling on the company to “DROP THE PRICE.” https://t.co/KlBBibNI1Y

X · Apr 3, 2025, 2:44 PM

[sharp needle]

little do they know

[odd scaffold]

The one guy saying RAISE THE PRICE lmao

[slow flint]

three guys actually lol

[verbal wing]

Easiest way to raise the price is to buy all the accessories. 😂

[odd scaffold]

Or buy a second one that you never turn on until homebrew is found

[rustic orchid]

lol i think people overreact

[verbal wing]

$170 for an extra set of Joycons and a pro controller.

[rustic orchid]

do old pro controllers work??

[slow flint]

yes

[rustic orchid]

cool beans

[slow flint]

they did not even say they are for switch 1 games only or anything so it should be good

[verbal wing]

I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but this is pretty rad. I don't recall this for Switch 1...

[rustic orchid]

I have no reason to move to the pro 2

[verbal wing]

Full carrying case for everything + dock

[rustic orchid]

the switch pro contollers are great

[slow flint]

I'm happy with my 8bitdo pro 2 as well

[rustic orchid]

Yeah I could have used that for family days. Lugging 8 controllers + dock and switch was a lot

[slow flint]

I'd rather get another 8bitdo pro 2 than to get the switch pro 2

[rustic orchid]

8 bitdo will release a C button version soon enough

[slow flint]

well I'm hoping 8bitdo will update the firmware so that the chat button can be mapped to one of the existing buttons

https://youtu.be/ArOHHYc_TtI?si=lacOkgpCHJ9dtMRM

[blazing sleet]

Volume of cards will be more likely to skyrocket since something will actually want them in volume

[rustic orchid]

Same thing happened with the 2230 M.2 drives

give a year or two and coast of of physical and a 256gb card and you'll grab a 2tb for around 120

[sudden agate]

That is assuming that the economy and manufacturing go the same way as they did though.
I miss the Wii U support for USB external hard drive.

[tame roost]

ngl the dk game looks really good

[rustic orchid]

DK game looks awesome.

Mostly due to it looking like an actual modern game without stuttering.

that nvidia 10X more powerful thing is a bit of an exaggeration, but I do believe 4X as powerful

[tame roost]

definitely from the odyssey team, its got a lot of odyssey dna

yeah its definitely a leap forward

[rustic orchid]

Odyssey team with a bit of the magic of DKC

They know the roots well enough

DKC was THE game when I was a kid. Mario World was awesome but DKC was our game.

[tame roost]

i was more of a mario kid lol but dkc was fun too

i loved yoshi's island

[rustic orchid]

couldn't stand mario crying

or...my dad couldn't stand mario crying

didn't rent that one again

[feral umbra]

There were cases like this for Switch 1

If I'm not mistaken Nintendo made one

[rustic orchid]

Nothing that well thought out

[feral umbra]

True

That's the case I'm not getting as my Switch 2 is going to mostly be played in handheld mode

[round sparrow]

I get the feeling that I'll be using my S2 in handheld mode a lot more as it's going to just look better than my crusty 1080p TV that I have in my room lol

at least until I upgrade to something like an LG 4k oled or something

[tidal tree]

Where did you find this?

[feral umbra]

I have a 55" 4k TV in my room, I'm just on the go quite often

So handheld mode it is

Also the 2 games I'm getting are MarioKart World and Yakuza 0

[round sparrow]

I'm getting the MKW bundle

[feral umbra]

Same

[round sparrow]

I'll get DK bananza when that comes out, and I might get bravely default HD

[feral umbra]

It's only $50 more than the base console, and I was planning on buying MKWorld anyways

[round sparrow]

do we know how much these upgrade patches will cost for switch 1 games?

because I'm debating whether or not I should get a used copy of BOTW and buy that instead of getting the switch 2 edition

[feral umbra]

I think the Zelda ones are free with NSO With Expansion Pack

Or $10 standalone

[round sparrow]

I don't have the expansion pack tier

[feral umbra]

I'm gonna grab that when I get the console

[round sparrow]

okay it'd be cheaper for me to get a used copy of BOTW and then buy the upgrade patch

I'm gonna do that

I only own BOTW on the Wii U lol

[feral umbra]

Ah

I have some digital Switch games on my account that I'm also gonnaplay lmfao

[rustic orchid]

They finally got the the Wii U pad functionality in the Zelda Notes app.

[sweet cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-ok-cool-gif-27031679

[odd scaffold]

DK looks amazing I'm so excited for it I need it NOW

[tame roost]

i wonder if they're gonna update the nso emulators to do bfi

with the 120hz screen

[round sparrow]

I doubt it

[tame roost]

yeah probably not lol. but it would be nice

[minor bay]

Did the update the info? Because as of yesterday they were pulling a Sony and charging for higher fps

[round sparrow]

https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Hardware/Nintendo-Switch-2/Nintendo-Switch-2-Free-game-updates-2786093.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=NintendoSwitch2|NULL|NDirectFreeUpdatesThread8|m_id_7xSDdpwH59|2786093

this is the list of games that'll get free updates

there's a few curious omissions from this list, like smash bros

[proper bear]

Hori had one

[rustic orchid]

I had that one. Very bulky

[proper bear]

Yeah. But nice if you can fit it in your suitcase 😆

[rustic orchid]

wait...upgrades for free?

if you have the expansion?

*free for subbies

[leaden kiln]

Yeah

[round sparrow]

I know that the zelda upgrades are included

[slow flint]

only for some games like the two zelda games

[rustic orchid]

well why didn't they mention that

[proper bear]

Yeah. I have it so I'll be comfy with base for a bit

[proper bear]

Yeah. And Kirby. So first parties most likely

[leaden kiln]

It's on their website

[tidal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/me-dk-gif-13668500

[proper bear]

But 3rd parties are up in the air. Probably up to 3rd parties

[round sparrow]

I get the feeling most 3rd parties will offer their upgrades for free

I can't see CD project red for instance charging for a next gen upgrade of Witcher 3

[proper bear]

I mean if it's as simple as removing an fps lock they should

[leaden kiln]

They will most part

[leaden kiln]

And increase the resolution

[proper bear]

Yeah. Like doing that should be low lift

[round sparrow]

a lot of these games use dynamic resolution scaling, so they'd likely just get upgraded just by virtue of being on switch 2

[leaden kiln]

Same for no man's sky

[slow flint]

definitely case by case. some publishers are more consumer-friendly than others

[leaden kiln]

And batman arkham Knight

[rustic orchid]

DLSS implementation is from what I understand pretty drag and drop

[proper bear]

Yeah. Or didn't lock anything and let hardware decide

[rustic orchid]

Not a game coder

but seems like it'll be pretty easy to plug in

[proper bear]

They might also already have it and they just commented out the line. Heh

[rustic orchid]

True!

[round sparrow]

nah, DLSS is too new a technology for this to be the case

[proper bear]

EA gonna sell that uncommenting tho. Lol

[leaden kiln]

Well we got two months left

[round sparrow]

I could see a few scummy companies doing this, like square enix

[proper bear]

Eh. A lot of these titles are just PC ports tho where some have already or are already implementing it.

[round sparrow]

I guess it just depends on how new it is, but I do also believe there's a few files that need to be included for DLSS to work which would be a waste of space on the original switch

[slow flint]

it really depends on how they handle the multi-platform development

[leaden kiln]

Yes

This

[rustic orchid]

Arm developement

[void cloak]

Why is the Switch 2 so expensive in Switzerland...
Almost USD 550 if you convert it

[proper bear]

Yeah. Some will just require a pushed update

[round sparrow]

it's not much better for my country

[rustic orchid]

I'm assuming the specs for NS2 have been out for a while. We'll get updates on upgrades every month like Xbox used to do with BC

[void cloak]

Usually, Switzerland doesn't get fucked over so hard with conversions

[pale ivy]

The only country switch 2 is a good price in is Japan

[leaden kiln]

We are lucky enough to under 400

[leaden kiln]

And UK

[round sparrow]

though if you take away VAT from the price of the switch 2 in the UK, it's actually cheaper than the US price

[rustic orchid]

But you can't take away VAT

[manic lantern]

So if the tariffs never happened, we might of been getting a $330-350 usd Switch 2..

[rustic orchid]

not necessarily