Switch 2

[zealous mason]

The sad thing the one game they showed about disabled people playing together I will not be able to play due to the dual mouse mechanics

[leaden kiln]

Yh I'm not getting that

They have lost their mind

[feral umbra]

With as stacked of a launch line up as this, fuck yeah they are

[glossy comet]

They condensed a years worth of titles into their launch lineup

[leaden kiln]

I don't even know nintendo got aura like that I even signed a lifetime deal with nintendo including new account 😭🤣🤣🤣

[zealous mason]

I mean it's cool for extreme wheelchair basketball league but it is just not accessibile

[leaden kiln]

After that direct i say yeah nintendo got me to sign up with them

[feral umbra]

My wallet and soul are ready to be sacrificed to them at this point

New MarioKart at launch

Elden Ring, Cyperpunk, BORDERLANDS 4

[leaden kiln]

That's how much nintendo surprised me

[clever geyser]

I like how Mario kart is priced to get everyone to buy the bundle

[feral umbra]

Upgraded Switch 1 titles

GAMECUBE

[feral umbra]

That's what I'm buying

[leaden kiln]

Gamecube was expected but bro new James Bond as well

You know how long we got brand new game from 007 series

[feral umbra]

YAKUZA 0

[feral umbra]

The only one I remember is the one on N64

[leaden kiln]

I remember xbox 360 James Bond Blood store underrated game btw

15 years ago yk

[zealous mason]

They really 💩 the bed by not putting smash bros Melee on the GC day one with a freash coat of paint. With all the mods out there they could have been like we see what you have done & we hear you. Here is the Melee you've been dreaming of

[leaden kiln]

I'm more surprised I didn't see Mario kart double dash

[feral umbra]

Those are going to be coming for sure though

It is odd they're not day 1

[clever geyser]

Enter the gungeon 2 plz

[open osprey]

https://fixupx.com/itotweets_/status/1907435763542720879

Jorge Constantini (@itotweets_)

IT HAPPENED @maximilian_

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FixupX · Apr 2, 2025, 2:11 PM

[zealous mason]

I'm not with a kart world they are wanting to push that hard. There is no Smash game in the works and This

https://www.gamesradar.com/platforms/nintendo-switch-2/forget-mario-kart-world-kirby-air-riders-returns-after-20-years-with-smash-bros-masahiro-sakurai-back-at-the-helm/

Sakurai is working on that & not smash so

[clever geyser]

As confirmed on by Nintendo, the base Nintendo Switch 2 will be priced at £395.99 in the UK when it launches on June 5, 2025. A Switch 2 bundle with a digital copy of Mario Kart World will cost £429.99.

[leaden kiln]

Bundle is seeing me

If not 395 is okay

[clever geyser]

I think you kind of have to if the games going to be 80$

[blazing sleet]

I would get the bundle anyway as a new mario kart is one of the system sellers for me, but that pricing is an added bonus

[leaden kiln]

Yh unfortunately

[feral umbra]

US$449.99 for the console, US$499.99 for the bundle

No comment

[leaden kiln]

Especially if I get 395 one I'm paying 74.99 for mk world which it's vio

[feral umbra]

Yeah I'm also getting the bundle

I was gonna spend the money on MK World so might as well pony up the extra money for the bundle

[clever geyser]

Bundle + Metroid

[blazing sleet]

Not sure what else would grab me just yet, stuff i'd consider like sf6/bl4/cyberpunk would all be better (or already owned) on pc anyway

[feral umbra]

Idk what other game I'm gonna get

I might get 2 more

[clever geyser]

I’ll get sf6 if my switch 8bitdo m30 works on switch 2 with a usba to usbc dongle 🥲

[leaden kiln]

Cyberpunk I need to see the performance wise but sf6 deffo on pc

[feral umbra]

$90 though yikes

[leaden kiln]

For what cyberpunk

[feral umbra]

For physical games

[blazing sleet]

sf6 on the go would be nice and I did nab the pc version very cheap too

[feral umbra]

Digital games are $80

[open osprey]

Im def getting the bundle

And probably spend a bit on upgrading ToTK and BotW

and SF6

[clever geyser]

Donkey Kong is 70$

[leaden kiln]

Oh yh I will see what games I would get on switch 2 or pc version

[blazing sleet]

Did I see some mention of the switch 2 editions being included in the ninty online expansion pack?

[clever geyser]

No

[feral umbra]

I hope there's a nice little exploit for Switch 2

[clever geyser]

Not when they can charge you another 10-20$

[feral umbra]

You know, for homebrew reasons

[stark flicker]

The biggest failure for me is multiplat games seem to run better on steam deck than switch 2. really expected nvidia soc to do better

[clever geyser]

How do you know that???

I mean probably right but still

[stark flicker]

looking at how elden ring looked and ran on stream

[clever geyser]

Definitely need/want to see performance of the multi plat ones

[spice badge]

Depends on the res

[stark flicker]

i was kinda expecting to see RTGI in some games too, considering the nvidia soc

[stark flicker]

it looked blurrier than 800p on deck

[spice badge]

Did not seem that way to me, but maybe less fidelity due to the nature of it being a port

[feral umbra]

Yeah

It'll probably be updated to run better over time

[stark flicker]

fromsoftware? lol

[spice badge]

?

[blazing sleet]

shouldn't overlook livestream making it look worse too

[feral umbra]

Yeah

[blazing sleet]

judging by my current playtime, my real fear is I buy this and the only thing I play besides mk world would be balatro

[open osprey]

Yep, certain ones will be free if you have NSO + Expansion

[high barn]

Didn’t they also flat out also only mention the first party games getting those upgrades?

[blazing sleet]

I have bought it 3 times on pc, mobile and switch. I might have a problem.

[open osprey]

Balatro is good

[open osprey]

That i don't know

[blazing sleet]

Hopefully some will do a res increase as a free update to refresh sales

[high barn]

By that, I should specify I worded it wrong, I was trying to say “didn’t they show all the first party switch games that were publicly announced to be getting the S2 upgrades” as those games getting the upgrade for free?

[open osprey]

Oh, yeah

So far those are the only ones

Which are Prime 4, ToTK, BotW, Forgotten Lands, and ZA

[blazing sleet]

ZA is a new game I thought

[open osprey]

It is

[high barn]

Then yeah, unless they state otherwise for specific games, it’s safe to assume that other first party Nintendo games will be joining in on that list of “free upgrades for members” as soon as they make official announcements for them.

[open osprey]

But it has a Switch 2 version

[high barn]

Because as-is, it currently looks like they’re only promising the upgrades for games they also publicly announced upgrades for.

[open osprey]

I think Nintendo will pick and choose which ones will be NSO and which ones won3

[blazing sleet]

all switch 2 editions being included in the expansion pack would be a bargain, I wonder if they might rotate them through instead

[open osprey]

I... can and can't see that

[clever geyser]

I’ll buy it just for this… Arcade Archives 2 Ridge Racer

[open osprey]

Can cause

Nintendo

[blazing sleet]

One thing I do hope, they get their arse in gear when it comes to releasing gc games on there

[high barn]

I’m guessing if it’s not all the upgrades, it will likely be just the ones for games that also use NSO, since the reason Zelda joins that list now is because of that new phone function.

[stuck viper]

they wont

[blazing sleet]

If they took it seriously, nintendo online could be a great mainstream option for retro

[high barn]

Hence giving people who aren’t interested in N64 or GC a reason to get expansion pass, as it will be giving them NSO for that game and giving them the switch 2 upgrade of that game for free.

[open osprey]

Tbh

NSO + Expansion feels more like a deal as it, but GCN + switch 2 upgrades give that more value for 50 bucks

Vs what Sony is offering comparably for over 100+

[high barn]

You realize our frame of reference for NSO emulation is based on the Switch 1, and that we currently don’t even know what Switch 2 will legit be like just yet?

[blazing sleet]

It's cheap enough that my thought was it's cheap enough, so why not

[open osprey]

Basically

[stuck viper]

they drip feed titles hard during the entire switch 1 generation

youre crazy if you dont think theyll do the same for gamecube

[feral umbra]

Also are the games pricing confirmed

[stuck viper]

yes

[high barn]

Oh, I’m not assuming they’ll put in a ton of titles at once, I’m just talking about the actual performance of those games, since the titles they showed already had at least 5 games from my Top 10.

[blazing sleet]

They might frontload the gc releases a bit more, didn't they have a bunch to start it off before they moved to dripfeed scheduling?

[fallen herald]

3rd party stuff will still depends on licensing agreement

[high barn]

SNES and NES both currently have around 80 and 70 respectively.

[heady snow]

Wait seriously?

[blazing sleet]

Physical version of MKW is $90 and presumably some other games will follow suit, although not all as seen by the Donkey Kong one being less

[heady snow]

That is insane

[uncut swallow]

https://x.com/GameSpot/status/1907469936609374330

GameSpot (@GameSpot) on X

Switch 2 Not Aimed At People Who Want "High-Performance Hardware," Nintendo Says https://t.co/arbG6XbHEG

X · Apr 2, 2025, 4:27 PM

[tawny halo]

Wow after a quick search. Nintendos price for 256gb express card is pretty cheap

[heady snow]

Relative to other consoles sure but for handheld performance it seems to be pretty impressive at least from speculation

[stark flicker]

makes gta6 being $100 more believable now lol

[uncut swallow]

we still have yet to sea the real specs

i cant even find a confirmation if the triggers are analog or digital

[zealous mason]

$150-$175 with day 1 DLC

[stark flicker]

congratulating myself for not being particularly interested in rockstar games

[fallen herald]

Waiting for digital foundry analysis/teardown.

No mention of any Nvidia related tech (or some variant of them) such as DLSS and raytracing as well. Hopefully the former is there for docked mode at least.

[open osprey]

I didn't expect it to be lmap

[heady snow]

The battery life is somewhat disappointing actually

[naive surge]

gta6 pricing isnt confirmed yet though right?

[heady snow]

Hoping that they're just lowballing it

[stark flicker]

correct

[zealous mason]

No but experts are saying if people are willing to pay $80 for MKW They'll pay $100-$175 for GTA6

[naive surge]

ultimate edition will be 1k lol

[zealous mason]

Nintendo just set the standard for the next gen of game prices with MKW

[heady snow]

Yeah they can keep that shit if it's anything above 100

[zealous mason]

in this US economy i agree

[high barn]

I wonder if it has something to do with the new storage media hardware they’re using for Switch 2 cartridges.

[zealous mason]

Has to be

[untold flame]

SKONG!!!

SKONG!!!!!

SKONG!!!!!

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-12993999557818669691

[untold flame]

SKONG!!!!!

SKONG!!!!

[heady snow]

The more I learn the less hyped I am

[winter pecan]

oh yeah that's right, skong

[untold flame]

Ya this fucking sucks

I'm buying a steam deck

[heady snow]

I think I'm gonna wait for the switch 2 lite

[untold flame]

SKONG!!!!

[high barn]

It would certainly at least make more sense for a price increase than companies trying to milk $70 out of people for games that are only available on optical media for physical.

Now if only the games were already only $60 for digital, then it would at least be more justifiable than Nintendo actively charging the same $70 on top of the additional $10 for physical.

[heady snow]

This isn't adding enough to make it more appealing than my legion go tbh

[untold flame]

I have yet to play hollow knight

But skong is exciting

[heady snow]

How

[winter pecan]

lmao

you fell for the hype sir

[untold flame]

As bringus would say, "optical media bad!!!"

[heady snow]

I still haven't beaten nightmare king Grimm 😞

[untold flame]

???

I simply did not play it

[heady snow]

Why

[winter pecan]

go play it you madman

what are you even doing here

[heady snow]

It's been out for a while

You can play it on anything

[untold flame]

Too busy never missing and stripping my prisoners of their arms, legs, head, and their sanity, while keeping their family in a similar state in another room, afterwards putting them as cleaning slaves with peg legs and wooden arms

Guess the game!

[heady snow]

Skull and bones

[untold flame]

I wouldn't go as far as to use the term ubislop

More like ubilies

[high barn]

Yup, unironically the only physical games I’m willing to buy are in fact cartridges specifically because of the issues and annoyances with disks, so if Nintendo wants to charge $10 more because they’re using a more expensive form of hardware that’s even faster than the previous one, I’m actually fine with that as long as the game is already at a fair price.

As you can guess, the current price for World is not that in my opinion.

[heady snow]

Yeah I got no idea tbh

[untold flame]

I'm buying a cart so I can emulate when my Nintendo account gets banned

Cod lobbies in Nintendo game chat will be crazy

[heady snow]

They're going to hack the camera 🐈

[untold flame]

I'll beg that guy on marketplace for the smash ultimate cart

[untold flame]

It's a unity game as a hibt

Released 2013

Piss optimization

One thread

I still don't believe that guy was stupid enough to not multi thread

They had core 2 duos at the time

And even now my 2020 Cpu can't handle it

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[untold flame]

That's the guess

Giving hints

[heady snow]

I honestly have no idea, sounds like a pirate game

[untold flame]

Why

[heady snow]

Peg legs

[untold flame]

No but that's just for the torture

That's not a theming thing

Developers are Canadian

10/10 on steam

Think mark think!

[heady snow]

Man this is going to look so bad on my search history

[untold flame]

You suck at google

I gave you one primary piece of information and a bunch of stuff to narrow it down

10/10s on steam are very rare

The primary info was torture

Of prisoners

[heady snow]

Yeah nothing came up except gta v

[untold flame]

This has gotta be bait

[zealous mason]

If you got the bundle & dk. 4 pro controller & the camera. This is the damage

[heady snow]

🤷‍♂️

[untold flame]

Oh my you suck at google

[heady snow]

That was my first try

[untold flame]

You don't put the hint in the search bar

[proper bear]

OneXSugar all the way baby. Who knows how long that sweet fire will burn. Switch 2 will be here for the next 10 years

[untold flame]

The hint is too narrow for google

You need to narrow it manually

[heady snow]

Chatgpt hasn't been much help either

[untold flame]

Put the primary information in the search bar

[spark birch]

House of the Dead 2 voice

My god.

[untold flame]

"games where you torture prisoners"

[heady snow]

You gave me the game with like the worst subject matter ever lmao

Even chatgpt is questioning my sanity

[untold flame]

You don't put the hint in the search bar

You narrow it manually

[high barn]

For the love of god, just tell him what the game is.

https://tenor.com/view/hurry-hurry-up-go-go-on-gif-10089177

[untold flame]

I'm teaching him how to google

[heady snow]

Do you know?

[zealous mason]

that's w/ 10% sales tax. Idk if anyone has that much but if I was a small gaming store that is what my price would be

[untold flame]

Do the thing

[high barn]

No, because I’m not even interested in knowing since I’m already frankly a bit weirded out by the “torture prisoners” part, I’m just tired of how they’re handling it.

[south notch]

There was no logo for nvidia anywhere in the presentation

[untold flame]

Google what I told you to google in quotations

[spark birch]

My local sales tax where I live in Minnesota is 9.875%, so 10% is pretty darn close.

Plus there's an additional tax for purchases over $150, but I can't remember how much that one is.

[high barn]

Fuck it, I’m stopping this nonsense.

There, I did it. Is the game Tormentors?

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-imma-do-my-own-thing-miles-morales-spider-man-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-ill-do-it-my-way-gif-12471351374972075237

[zealous mason]

TX is 8.25%

[zealous mason]

is why no one lives there?

[open osprey]

Thank god i live in VA

[spark birch]

5.8 million people live in Minnesota, though with how insanely cold the 6 month long winters get here I often wonder if we're all crazy for making this place our home XD

[open osprey]

4.3 sales Tax

[clever geyser]

Will it get COD?? With controller+mouse support!?

Wonder if Fortnite will have mouse too

It should!

[untold flame]

Does this match the 2013 release year I gave?

No, so move onto the next search result

[open osprey]

You know what Switch mouse means

Mario Paaaaaaaint

[untold flame]

Disney dream light valley?

[open osprey]

Ew no

[heady snow]

Your hints are terrible

[untold flame]

You suck at google

[heady snow]

It's not a lot to work with

[untold flame]

Lemme record me finding it as if I was an idiot who could google

[uncut swallow]

so finnaly watcchd the stream ... Mario Kart World and DK Bananza looked cool, nice to see strong third party support , but with it being 450-500€, games flirting with 80-90€, and absence of any big hook on top of super weird and anticonsumer features tied to subscriptions and zero specs revealed .... i am bit underwhelmed

[leaden kiln]

Hot take I'm surprised that we had $60 3 decades in the first place

So this economy being 80 is not surprised to me

[uncut swallow]

the fact that ots of the games shown had really afwull frame drop didnt help either

[heady snow]

You can't be serious

[leaden kiln]

What is this

[heady snow]

That only works if you already knew the premise of the game

[untold flame]

No

[heady snow]

Nah

[untold flame]

I only google games where you torture prisoners

I even considered that you would believe the 2018 release date

But the redditors testimony was so convincing that I googled it again

And gow is neither 10/10 or 2013

[heady snow]

It literally says 2018 on the steam page

[untold flame]

Finish the video

[heady snow]

Again, this only works if you already knew

[leaden kiln]

I'm so confusing right now

[heady snow]

Doing a quick Google search I would naturally skim over it

[untold flame]

You suck at googling is the issue

A smart man would follow the leads

[heady snow]

That real easy to say when you already knew what to look for lmao

[untold flame]

Rimworld has a big reputation for torturing prisoners

Bet

[leaden kiln]

Sorry for being rude but what this got to do with switch 2 related

[heady snow]

I've never played it so

[untold flame]

Give me a similar "shitty" description of a game you know

Make sure you pick a a primary description that it has a big rep for

I guarantee I'll find it

Make sure you give the same hints

Release year

Steam rating

[heady snow]

I did technically find rimworld in my searches, just didn't conclude that it was that

[untold flame]

Developer country

[heady snow]

Because visually and in the name it looks nothing like a torture game

[untold flame]

I guarantee I'll find it and tell you the game

[uncut swallow]

tbh as someone from poor backrground from bornederline eastern europe ... iu found anything above 1000 czk (cca 40€) not worth it and and anything above 2000 donwright ridculous 😄

[untold flame]

Pull the trickery

I won't fall for it with skill only

[uncut swallow]

but i guess explains why i never really flocked to consoles as kid (cause parent werent wealthy enough) nor as an adult

[leaden kiln]

Yhhh

[slow flint]

this is good news at least

[leaden kiln]

Amen

Good news

[uncut swallow]

does this means analog triggers finally?

[stark flicker]

would be crazy if not, considering the triple a games coming for it

[uncut swallow]

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:tf7tjgkrqwai2kbxpx2dbr6k/post/3lltv2oncto2t

OatmealDome (@oatmealdome.bsky.social)

[Switch 2]

Here's a preview video of the revamped Nintendo eShop.

"Thanks to the system's performance capabilities, Nintendo eShop on Switch 2 has been improved and runs smoothly even when displaying a large number of games."

🔗 www.nintendo.com

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Bluesky · Apr 2, 2025, 5:12 PM

finally store that doesn lag 🤞🏻

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1907490743981056091?t=A5EizOfsiI8FM6xqeT-VZA&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition (Switch 2) will come on a physical 64GB game card https://t.co/BMH4nLYTL5

X · Apr 2, 2025, 5:50 PM

64gb wow

[slow flint]

okay...256gb internal storage is not gonna be enough even in the first year 💀

[leaden kiln]

Also it's 1080p 120hz hdr this was a expected of this device

[heady snow]

You fight monsters
Came out in 2016,
9/10 on steam
American Developer
Unreal Engine 3

[slow flint]

totk having in-game purchase?? is that refering to the upgrade pack?

[leaden kiln]

Wait wait

3 hours charging

[heady snow]

Thats pretty slow tbh

[leaden kiln]

That's so slow

[slow flint]

i thought the charger was rumoured to be 60W?

60W charger should not need 3 hours to charge it

[leaden kiln]

60w charging that need to be 3 hours that's can't be right

[slow flint]

probably they are limiting the charging speed in handheld mode. 60w might be only for when it is docked

[untold flame]

How's the optimization

Remember that the fight monsters must not be the primary description of the game, but something it is considered for popularly as a "meme"

[heady snow]

When was that ever a rule

You're kind of just making this up along as you go

[untold flame]

That's what my primary description was

Rimworld is colony simulation video game

You play as three random people who have crash landed on a rimworld near the edge of the galaxy

Along the way, in order to gain more colonists, you may capture other pawns

Due to the nature of rimworld simulation, each individual limb is tracked

For example a left index finger may be scarred

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[untold flame]

That's the point of what I'm saying here

[heady snow]

Pretty different descriptions

[untold flame]

You can also manually induce this

By doing surgery on prisoners, you may remove their linbs

Remove arms, legs, tongues,

And replace them with peg legs

Then recruit them as slaves with the ideology dlc

But this torture isn't the main game

[heady snow]

Yeah I think this why I didn't get this, that's just not something I'd assume from an outsider looking in

[untold flame]

Merely a silly mini game

[untold flame]

But, this silly mini game is what rimworld is famous for

Is your monster fighting silly mini game what your game is famous for?

I'm still googling btw

I'll find it

[heady snow]

Mine arguably should be easier

[umbral matrix]

UK crew 🫖

First proper preorder is live at Smyths. £2.99 delivery cause they're robbin' bastards.

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/gaming-and-tech/nintendo-switch-2/nintendo-switch-2-consoles/c/SM06040201?sc_src=email_519105&sc_lid=64880895&sc_uid=bQRcl2CkP2&sc_llid=1267&sc_customer=1014383456&utm_campaign=SW013-25-UK-Switch-220250402Software+UK&utm_source=Emarsys&utm_medium=email#Mobilemenu

[untold flame]

Xcom 2?

[slow flint]

improved performance for switch 1 games is confirmed at least

[heady snow]

No

[untold flame]

Hmm

[leaden kiln]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

This one all I need to know

[untold flame]

The issue may be that "you fight monsters" is less detailed than describing the torture in real descriptive terms

[heady snow]

It evens out, because unreal engine 3 is more specific than just unity

[untold flame]

No, because even just torture and unity and 2013 as a description actually narrows it down to one game, whereas your description describes multiple games

I have to guess within those boundaries

There's only one 2013 10/10 torture sim written in unity

Xcom 2 also meets every one of your requirements

[heady snow]

Okay I'll give you another hint

It's a first person shooter

[proper bear]

But will it run Crysis?

[round sparrow]

good shout, the base model was sold out but I managed to nab a mario kart bundle

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1907448431863308499?t=o5XVsFwLBczKGLso68Z5qQ&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Nintendo Switch 2 compatibility list issues:

-Nintendo Switch games that start up on Nintendo Switch 2, but include some in-game compatibility issues https://t.co/MNBth7jH6H
-games with start up issues on Nintendo Switch 2 https://t.co/v1bhKs5cmn

X · Apr 2, 2025, 3:01 PM

[untold flame]

I'm buying a steam deck honestly

[glass turret]

Waking up to Switch 2 specs and prices. A solid nope for me. With that pricetag, I expect OLED.

[untold flame]

Idk if it's worth it

[round sparrow]

I have a steam deck, I like it lots

[glass turret]

And yeah would rather buy a Steam Deck

I hope the Switch 2 sells poorly

[untold flame]

I just need upscaling for switch 1 games

[untold flame]

This will be a 3ds launch situation

[proper bear]

Steam Deck still OP

[untold flame]

The switch won partly because it was a cheap child's console

At this price point you compete with the ps5

[round sparrow]

it also had banger titles

[untold flame]

PC does too

[proper bear]

Banger titles that both kids and adults enjoy

[round sparrow]

I'm not disputing that

[glass turret]

Yeah and they’re entering a market where handheld Windows devices and the Steam Deck exist. The Switch had barely any competition at the time.

[proper bear]

PC is like a whole different route tho. Even if things like steam deck are making it more mainstream

[untold flame]

Also ps5

[proper bear]

I know plenty of techies still hesitant to pick up a deck who will preorder this

[untold flame]

Or I could buy a super SP!!!!!!!!!

[glass turret]

PS5 is irrelevant. It’s not a handheld.

[untold flame]

Super SP!!!!!!!!

[round sparrow]

I think PC handhelds are still too niche for the mainstream

[untold flame]

Console

[heady snow]

the main reason i wanted one would be the battery life, but its basically on the level of the better pc handhelds, which is pretty disappointing

[untold flame]

Hmm I'm Grandma which console do I buy for my kid

[proper bear]

Switch is really the only crossover device

[heady snow]

and 3 hour charging time is insane

[untold flame]

This expensive one or this one?

[proper bear]

For the main market anyway

My grandma loved Mario's music. So shed say switch for sure

[round sparrow]

everyone knows what a nintendo is

[glass turret]

The console that doesn’t need a TV. Nintendo stopped competing with the PS and XBox the moment they made the Switch (pun not intended)

[proper bear]

Except a ton of people (myself included) use it significantly more docked

[round sparrow]

explaining something like a steam deck to your average person is a bit harder than explaining a switch

[leaden kiln]

I'm actually surprised that it's not more battery life

[proper bear]

Probably skewed in this community tho

[vestal notch]

I know a lot of people that use the switch as basically a party game console exclusively

[timber steppe]

That wheel chair basketball game looks fun

[round sparrow]

it looks exhausting lol

[timber steppe]

Although u probs gotta be good at it

[proper bear]

This as well. Haha. Whenever family visits Mario party comes out

[glass turret]

Yeah it’s still not enticing to me. They need to do a PS2 IMO. Make a loss with the console and make profit from the games.

[timber steppe]

Unless you use a treadmill

[proper bear]

Nintendo also plays long game. And they're not dumb. They may just plan on a slow sale roll

[leaden kiln]

I think unless we see performance difference on paper switch 2 should beat steam deck performance

The launch is nasty

[heady snow]

I'm either going to wait for a sale or the switch 2 lite i think

[vestal notch]

That’s not that crazy of a launch tbh

[tawny halo]

Hmmmm no themes then

[proper bear]

A real solid list. Especially since most of it is still in my backlog. Lol

[glass turret]

I mean that’s one of the reasons why the Switch sold so well IMO. It caters to both those who use it as a home console as well as those who only use it as a handheld (me).

[untold flame]

That's not what Grandmas thinking

She's a bit old

[leaden kiln]

It's way better than xbox or playstation launch even tho not fair they got launched five years ago

[vestal notch]

I mean it’s good don’t get me wrong. There’s still a lot of games this year for it I’m excited for

[uncut swallow]

isnt that implied by just having stronger HW

[round sparrow]

I'm excited for that new DK game that comes out a month after launch

[proper bear]

Only first party Sony had was spiderman demons souls I think

[glass turret]

I don’t think you know the developing market that well lol.

[timber steppe]

Ngl the switch 2 like a 7/10

[proper bear]

What. Lol. The current market still heavily revolves around having a TV. Especially to Grandma

[timber steppe]

Need a smash at launch

[untold flame]

Even kids making choices won't be argued with by their parents to buy the cheap one

[round sparrow]

sakurai is busy with kirby air riders

and I'm glad for him, honestly

I didnt' want sakurai to be stuck in smash bros jail for the rest of his career

[timber steppe]

Was anyone expecting 120hz screen?

[proper bear]

Switch 2 will just be that big Christmas purchase for a lot of kids. Anyone thinking they won't want one or will all want steam decks instead is dellusional

[proper bear]

When they said IPS I at least hoped so

[round sparrow]

genuinely the most surprising thing about the specs was that

I didn't believe the leaks about 120hz VRR, but I'm happy

[glass turret]

Nah it doesn’t. Otherwise the Switch Lite wouldn’t have sold well either. You’d be surprise by how many parents out there are like “No TV time! But phone/ipad/handheld screens are okay”.

[leaden kiln]

From nintendo I was shocked

[proper bear]

It is super nice. 60hz 4K shocked me a little

[timber steppe]

4k60 wasn’t even expected

Yeah

[leaden kiln]

That's shocked me

I don't even know nintendo can do that

[timber steppe]

I mean 4k makes sense now that everyone has a 4k tv

[tame roost]

oh is it vrr too?

[leaden kiln]

Yep

[proper bear]

You buy switch lite because you have more than one kid. And all want to play at once. That doesn't mean you don't also have a switch plugged into a tv

[tame roost]

oh nice

[glass turret]

This is such a first world/developed nation mentality lol

[proper bear]

Which is where they sell the most of these, yes

[round sparrow]

my sister has a switch of her own, and her children both have their own switch lites

[untold flame]

SMASH!

[round sparrow]

I'm sure there's many such cases

[untold flame]

That's why the switch 2 will sell

And mkw

[proper bear]

I think the number of combo households is pretty high honestly

[leaden kiln]

Nintendo is going to make money money

[umbral matrix]

Looks like both are out of stock now!

[proper bear]

Almost everyone I know of my age without kids has a switch on the TV and lite for travel.

[round sparrow]

they were all sold out at my local smyths, I had to pay for the home delivery

[proper bear]

I mean they were years apart from eachorher

[round sparrow]

and only the bundle was in stock

[proper bear]

It's not like everyone is buying switch, switch OLED, and switch lite all at once

[round sparrow]

I don't bring my switch with me any more tbh, I usually bring my steam deck instead

[proper bear]

Buy a switch now, get a lite when it drops, get an OLED to upgrade the og over the course of 8 years is totally feasible

[glass turret]

If you say so boo. Anyway, original point is that this caters to both home console and portable console gamers. It doesn’t compete with the PS or XBox for that reason alone. It’s in a different console category altogether now.

[proper bear]

Well if you don't buy 10 other handhelds a year

[stark flicker]

but now it competes with pc handhelds 😊

[glass turret]

That’s what I said.

[round sparrow]

I still think pc handhelds are a niche market comparitively

[proper bear]

To be fair past the 64/GC era Nintendo has always done its own thing. Usually because it offered fun features and didn't chase power to keep price lower

[glass turret]

People seem to be underestimating the Switch’s draw of being a handheld too.

[proper bear]

But if this offers fun features and games and has power I'd gladly take it over a ps5

[round sparrow]

the PS5 has yet to draw me in at all personally

any games that seem remotely interesting just come to PC eventually

[proper bear]

Might also come back to first vs 3rd world to some degree. A lot of people dock em. Sure it can be used as a handheld. I take mine on business trips and whatnot. But I'm not carrying it daily. Cause I drive to work and then work all day and drive home

[glass turret]

Niche but fast growing I believe.

[pine cove]

I truly don't think 450 is bad for this at all

[proper bear]

If you're in a country with actual mass transit (of which I'm extremely jealous) it also changed that dynamic

[round sparrow]

there's often an inherent need for tinkering with PC gaming, it's not always plug and play like it is with a console

explaining to your regular joe that they'd need to enable a specific proton version to play their game would likely turn them off of a steam deck

[leaden kiln]

People saying it's complete with pc handhelds I love x86 handhelds but nintendo is different aura

[glass turret]

I know families that only allow their kids to dock their Switch only when the parents are around and they don’t want to watch TV.. Because they only own one TV. That’s one of the third world mindset.

[pine cove]

I really love that reddit steam deck fanboys shit all over the switch, now the switch 2 gonna play games better than the deck lol

[round sparrow]

until the deck 2 comes out, then the cycle repeats lol

[proper bear]

Yeah. Makes sense. To be fair with smartphones we just let em play on the TV and do our own thing

[leaden kiln]

True True

[pine cove]

That's fine lol, more like just shut up and enjoy

[glass turret]

Oh 100%. Once windows handheld manufacturers are able to create a dumbed down interface, the Switch will face tough competition.

[proper bear]

Consoles still have that unique ability to require zero effort to make shit work. I mean steamOS is getting pretty close

[leaden kiln]

Exactly

[silk hatch]

In one of the dev interviews on the Nintendo website, they said that the translation layer for switch 1 games on switch 2 does fix performance, but only certain games will get updates to support higher resolution + frame rates, and other games will have paid upgrades that have new content

[proper bear]

But even as a software dev I come home sometimes and just want shit to work. Lol

[leaden kiln]

They said that

[untold flame]

I see you are not a Bethesda fan

[heady snow]

i mean, isnt that kind of counterintuitive

[proper bear]

Which makes sense. For some titles it'll be as simple as pushing an update to remove a cap. Most 3rd parties probably fall under this

[untold flame]

The lite is lite

[proper bear]

Why? Switch lite is more portable

[round sparrow]

there's still a friction with PC software on top of that. You're dealing with decades of legacy software, some people might not also know why their game is running poorly. Many people won't know that turning off ambient occlusion or anti-aliasing would improve their framerates, they might not know what these settings even do. A switch is just plug and play so I really don't think PC handhelds are a significant threat to nintendo in this space

[leaden kiln]

One thing steam deck has advantages over switch 2 is indies , old games and emulation

[untold flame]

Why would you buy an RP5 and an Odin 2

[proper bear]

Switch lite is also cheaper. So I'm more comfortable throwing it in a bag unprotected. Lol

[untold flame]

I just feel that anyone who wants a home console won't pick it

[leaden kiln]

I mean people would buy switch lite for travel only or switch oled for docked or handheld mode

[heady snow]

I mean the idea is that with the switch its both a handheld and a console, but ig it is nice to have two

[glass turret]

Also a reminder that the obsession with frame rate is just us nerds’ obsession. Your average person/family only cares if games run smoothly. They could’ve still kept the screen at 60Hz and it would still sell.

[untold flame]

And if valve did some marketing

[round sparrow]

you're right, they'd pick a PS5 or series X over it if they wanted a dedicated TV box

[proper bear]

Well and if you have friends/family you live with

[leaden kiln]

If valve even did marketing they are not available in every country

[proper bear]

Why the 4K60 is a bigger thing to me

[round sparrow]

I think the 120hz refresh is for the devs benifits as much as it is ours

games will be able to run at 40fps with good frame pacing

[leaden kiln]

Like I say it would be better than steam deck performance and on par to par with rog ally

[proper bear]

Like if it can put all these titles at 4K60 with decent frame rate, it's a pretty nice system

[round sparrow]

I doubt many titles will be running native 4k, esp at 60fps

[glass turret]

Yeah for me 60/120 matters less. Gimme OLED on that screen. I’m a basic consumer that wants them vibrant colours and deep blacks

[proper bear]

Guess the price shocks me less when I consider thst

[leaden kiln]

For switch 1 games

[proper bear]

Id assume not. But I'd love to be surprised 😆

[heady snow]

I suspect that a lot of it will be using upscaling techniques tbf, maybe the switch 1 games will though

[round sparrow]

even looking at the new mario kart, that game's not running at native 4k

[leaden kiln]

1080p lcd is good enough for me and it's hdr as well

[novel crystal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJ4QK7RlrU

[proper bear]

If 1st party titles do they're gonna look gorgeous

[heady snow]

the phawx my goat

[slow flint]

preordered

[glass turret]

Price shocked me because I thought they would still position themselves as the budget friendly console. USD$449 ain’t it, even with inflation adjusted.

[glass turret]

Straya! Man the price tag hurts here

[leaden kiln]

How

[heady snow]

you can already preorder?

[glass turret]

Fair. I like my blacks black

[slow flint]

I'm in Australia

ebgames and other stores are already accepting preorders

[proper bear]

Well without tarrifs it probably would have been $400. And that's not insane

[leaden kiln]

That's why I'm not complaining about it

[glass turret]

A reminder to y’all, Australia and New Zealand usually always gets to preorder and receive our tech stuff first if it’s a global launch

[proper bear]

Moving to NZ

[round sparrow]

nice one, same

[coarse lion]

Is the Switch 2 more powerful than the Steam Deck?

[proper bear]

They do also pay out the ass usually tho

[slow flint]

yeah. tho it hurted me more when I imported my Steam Deck OLED only for them to release it officially like months later💀

[round sparrow]

in some ways it might be

[heady snow]

🐈

we dont know

[glass turret]

That I might’ve stomached. But yeah. I’m still passing on the Switch 2 since there’s no OLED. Hard to go back to LCD for me.

[round sparrow]

it will have Nvidias upscaling tech to help with rendering higher resolutions

[heady snow]

third party games might run close if not better depending on optimization though

[coarse lion]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[stark flicker]

at the very least, its not "obviously" stronger

[coarse lion]

I assume that this will lead to better performance in several cases

[heady snow]

only a 5k mah battery is killing me, i know they want to make sure its a lighter handheld but man

[round sparrow]

it's also a console, so it'll have bespoke optimization that a PC title doesn't get

[leaden kiln]

On paper yes

[stark flicker]

have they announced processor or shown any game running betteer?

[high barn]

Well that just became an instant Physical-only for me.

[round sparrow]

all we know is it's an Nvidia SOC, they haven't revealed more than that

[glass turret]

Gotta make sure kids can use it as well. It is a “family” console after all

[leaden kiln]

Custom Nvidia but apparently it could be t239

[coarse lion]

The Steam Deck Oled has that amount, right?

[stark flicker]

so "on paper yes" is a straight lie

[round sparrow]

it seems like it'd be based on ampere architecture in which case

[glass turret]

We forget that the Switch is also suppose to be kid-friendly. Doubt Nintendo will change that with current/future releases

[leaden kiln]

Nah I'm not lying because switch 2 would be powerful since it's amperee

[round sparrow]

ampere is the 3000 series of gpus

[leaden kiln]

Again we need to see real performance

[stark flicker]

cant say without wattage info. deck has 48 Wh battery, and consumes ~24W at 15W tdp

[heady snow]

iirc the phawx said it was around 19 whr

[stark flicker]

their data sheet advertises 2-6.5 hr battery. SDOled is 2-8 hrs

[main otter]

It was a hell of a direct today but I probably will wait 2 years for Switch 2 OLED or Switch 2 Lite.

[heady snow]

yep, the switch 2 isnt going anywhere anytime soon so I think I'll wait

[leaden kiln]

I'm deffo getting one since I don't have no switch In my house

[pine cove]

I'd assume if it's Nvidia they have some kind of Nvidia upscaling this time

[main otter]

Yeah for now I am more excited to get a RP5/Odin 2 portal.

[round sparrow]

yeah for sure, though I don't personally consider that native

[main otter]

Wait until we get the OLED / Lite models and more exclusive games

[round sparrow]

if the switch 2 wasn't backwards compatible, I wouldn't be buying one at launch like I am

[pine cove]

Oh yeah that's fine, but Nvidia upscaling is crazy good. Especially at 4k

[stark flicker]

if their SoC is supposed to be amazing compared to deck, it wasn't apparent today.

[leaden kiln]

I'm thinking maybe i should get mini pc and switch 2 instead

[coarse lion]

same

[pine cove]

At 4k many say it's even better lol

[slow flint]

the only thing stopping the switch 2 from being more powerful than steam deck is the supposed Samsung process node

[coarse lion]

its not real 4k

[round sparrow]

I don't think it's going to massively outperform steam deck

[pine cove]

I personally don't care

Shit looks amazing lol

[slow flint]

we all know how bad the snapdragon 888 and 8 Gen 1 (non plus) was

[leaden kiln]

Nah I will say switch 1 games would get 4k 100%

[heady snow]

hopefully it will become more battery efficient with subsequent releases

[main otter]

For me the real competitive advantage is the exclusive games. It’s so big that it’s not really portable. If it’s a couch system I might as well get a Odin 2 portal and stream from PC

[coarse lion]

900p-1080p to real 4k?

idk

if it was 30fps i would believe

[stark flicker]

1080p native + dlss upscaling is very possible

[minor bay]

https://www.theverge.com/nintendo/641559/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-gameplay-requirements

I want to beat scalpers, but is someone like me going to be penalized and de-prioritized because I haven’t been playing my (broken) switch?

[heady snow]

they might have performance options for frame rate or resolution

[coarse lion]

like metroid prime 4

[stark flicker]

that's just one way to buy a switch, and yes you get penalized there

[coarse lion]

I am glad this option exists

[proper bear]

That's only through Nintendo. I'm sure you can jump on it when it drops on Amazon, best buy, etc.

[pine cove]

And looks amazing.

[heady snow]

did they ever mention if the new sticks are hall effect? would be funny if we got stick drift again

[round sparrow]

nope, they only say that they're more durable

[stark flicker]

i personally don't think this launch is as compelling as switch 1... no new zelda is a bummer

[leaden kiln]

Again we need to see the performance they said they will show gameplay on nintendo treehouse

[minor bay]

I mean, it took me two years to get a series s that way, and 3.5 to get a ps5

[leaden kiln]

Really

[pine cove]

At least if it's the transformer model

[heady snow]

I guess we'll find out then

[round sparrow]

there was never gonna be a new zelda game for this system with how recently TOTK came out

[unkempt beacon]

I agree

[heady snow]

wasn't there a new hyrule warriors? or is that a port

[round sparrow]

it's a new game

[stark flicker]

no zelda, no xenoblade, no fire emblem, no mario platformer

[leaden kiln]

It's new game

[uncut swallow]

optimist

would be nice though

[proper bear]

https://dbrand.com/shop/grip/nintendo-switch-2-cases

[leaden kiln]

For third party games this is best launch for nintendo

[unkempt beacon]

give me a xenoblade collect pack!

[round sparrow]

I was disappointed by the lack of a new mario game, but the mario team looks like they're making a banger donkey kong game instead so I'm still plenty excited

[heady snow]

they must've been sitting on this one for a while

[coarse lion]

I feel that the Switch 2 will not sell as much as the Switch 1, the games are very expensive as well

[glass turret]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. No launch titles interest me either.

[coarse lion]

based tbh

[stark flicker]

yeah tech looks interesting

[unkempt beacon]

yea 80 bucks for mario kart is wild

[slow flint]

the new hyrule warriors is not that appealing tbh. the whole reason people care about the previous one was that the champions were great and lovable characters. and the Sages in totk were barely characters at all

[untold flame]

Idk man do I buy a steam deck or this

[proper bear]

I'm gonna stick with my optimism. Then get disappointed by reviews. And then buy it and not care while having fun playing anyway 😆

[coarse lion]

they released many marios on the Switch 1, it was time for a new Donkey Kong

[stark flicker]

i didn't know people cared about warriors games at all lol

[leaden kiln]

Switch 2 would sell since it's backwards compatibility

[coarse lion]

👌

[heady snow]

depends on how much you want switch exclusives

[unkempt beacon]

donkey kong does look great

[uncut swallow]

i mean people said the same for ps5

[leaden kiln]

I can't lie the game look fun as hell

[uncut swallow]

then for ps5pro 😄

[round sparrow]

I'd only get a switch 2 if you like nintendo games

[proper bear]

At this point I'd be deciding between getting this and waiting for SD2. Heh

[uncut swallow]

and we are still getting 30fps games .. for reasons

[round sparrow]

I personally love nintendo games

[stark flicker]

sd2 is not happening until UDNA, so at least another 2-3 years

[heady snow]

I'm definitely going to pick one up at some point, but probably not too soon

[pine cove]

Ez cop

[slow flint]

I'm personally only into Xenoblade, Zelda, and Metroid. so this direct was kinda mid for me

[coarse lion]

same, but I don't like Nintendo itself

[untold flame]

true

[round sparrow]

yeah the company itself can be awful

[proper bear]

Yeah. But the man has other handhelds

[untold flame]

i have my SUPER SP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[proper bear]

Like none of us probably NEED this

[coarse lion]

I'm excited about DK and Bravely Default

[heady snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562670802613305364/1356813643425120378/download.gif

[untold flame]

brick doesnt do it

here we go

[round sparrow]

when does the super SP come out?

[uncut swallow]

i love old nintendo games ..... but i have been kinda struggling with Switch era ... especially when it comes to adiovisuals compared to the rest of the industry ... especiallythe lack of voiceovers

[untold flame]

schizo gif is always needed

[untold flame]

'tommorow

[coarse lion]

Square Enix always finds a way to lose money, bravely default remaster to be released only on Switch 2 LMAOOO

[proper bear]

Holy shit. This just keeps getting worse every time I see it

[leaden kiln]

I think nintendo switch era was like redemption for wii u situation

[coarse lion]

Bravely Default 2 sold so poorly on Switch that they had to release it on PC

[proper bear]

Which is funny cause at least for first party Wii U was kinda a banger

What a weird system tho

[uncut swallow]

but big part of this is jsut that i was super oversold on the exclsuives , that i guess i build my expectaions way to high and ended up up feeling strongly dissapointed with exception of maybe Mario Wonder and Xeno 3

[leaden kiln]

I understand

[pine cove]

Gotta be honest the hate for Nintendo online is wildly over exaggerated. You'd think they killed a puppy lol

[glass turret]

Hot damn the Switch 2 is more expensive than the PS5 in Australia.

[leaden kiln]

I didn't get hype until 2022 in my volunteer Job

[proper bear]

I dunno. I got good mileage out of switch. Zelda's, kirby, Mario kart, etc

[untold flame]

just my wallet

[coarse lion]

imo the hatred is justified, it's been 5 years of NSO and we still have a pitiful catalog of games and exclusive features

[leaden kiln]

So switch 2 would be my first switch to experience the switch 1 games

[pine cove]

Sorry, not literally nso. I mean people hating Nintendo on online spaces

[round sparrow]

that's exciting, there's so many cool games for you to play

[coarse lion]

I've seen a lot of people defend it for the simple fact that you can do family groups and pay like $8 every year

[heady snow]

I had a switch 1 but never really played much of the exclusives

[proper bear]

To be fair I never use PSN or Game Pass for anything but the games anyway. Not sure what features I am missing heh

[coarse lion]

oh

[sudden agate]

There werent many first party titles and many were hated back then like nsmbu and starfox

[heady snow]

I haven't played a single zelda game

[proper bear]

Not to mention there's a lot of trash in all 3. Maybe a little less on switch just cause less shit devs even tried

[coarse lion]

Personally I don't like it because they have been very unpro-consumer friendly compared to past generations

[leaden kiln]

Yhh and it's would be third nintendo I ever owned since ds/wii

[pine cove]

The library was great, especially if you like Nintendo properties. Kirby, 2d and 3d Mario, 2d Metroid, Luigi's mansion, Pikmin, etc etc all came out very well

[coarse lion]

in my country their games are very expensive

[zealous mason]

Oh & for anyone who cares. Switch 2 has accessible features.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/accessibility/

[sudden agate]

Wise choice. Zelda ruined my experience with many mediocre games.

"I could just play zelda"

[leaden kiln]

Same Same

[heady snow]

I'm def going to play it now I think with improved performance, just never really got around to it

[coarse lion]

I have only finished Ocarina and I didn't like it very much, I think zelda is not for me

https://tenor.com/view/chii-kawa-chiikawa-chiikawa-beat-beating-ow-gif-16647359826059400487

[proper bear]

It was just weird in that most of its first party stuff came late and were basically switch games as well

[uncut swallow]

i mean Nintendo is basically the most cutthroad corporation in gaming ... who somehow keeps the public perception of "fun and family"

[zealous mason]

anything pre N64 is the way to go. Though I just dont have time to really get into the weeds of anything after Link's awakening

[heady snow]

Can't wait for the switch 1 to stop receiving support

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13762570480753436158

[round sparrow]

majora's mask is my favourite game of all time 🤐

[heady snow]

homebrew going to go crazy

[leaden kiln]

🤭

[proper bear]

For me it's anything post a link to the past

[pine cove]

Disagree. Especially if you owned it at the time. There were super duper long stretches of times with literally nothing to look forward to. Very barren, worst time to be a Nintendo fan

[leaden kiln]

And third party support was horrible

[round sparrow]

I owned one at the time, I still own one in fact, and I don't remember it being too bad but I was always doing a lot of PC gaming too at the time

[proper bear]

Yeah. I'm thinking more of the Wii U Switch crossovers. Guess it was pretty barren

[untold flame]

whats the status on super5

[untold flame]

js play the games😭😭😭

[main otter]

A jailebroken Switch 2 will be an awesome handheld. Plays Switch 1/2 games plus everything you can do with emulations. Think about that.

[leaden kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lol-smirk-funny-gif-3239349938179125104

[sudden agate]

Wii U's first real hit was Mario Kart 8, and that had the bad battle mode

[pine cove]

To date only console I've thrown in the trash

[torn wraith]

I've a feeling that that will take a very long time. But I'm buying this Holiday and then holding onto it

[round sparrow]

that's if it gets jailbroken, it's not guaranteed to happen in a timely manner

[glass turret]

Nintendo lawyers getting ready to make bank

[proper bear]

It's also not necessarily gonna take forever. Sometimes they fuckup with exploits out the gate

[main otter]

It will take a while but we also have so many handhelds to play with nowadays. I can wait

[heady snow]

switch v1 got hacked relatively early in its lifecycle tbf

[round sparrow]

that was due to an exploit in nvidia's SOC, who knows if that'll happen again

[glass turret]

I'ma play all my Switch games on my Odin 2 while I wait for Switch 2 OLED

[pine cove]

That was an incredibly huge oversight they cleaned up after a bit

[leaden kiln]

I don't have no handhelds and I'm struggling to pick one 😭😭😭

[sudden agate]

I actually don't have much negative feelings toward Switch 2 except for game price increase.

I feel that they are doing right decisions

[glass turret]

RP Flip 2 if the reviews are good and if you don't need high performance

[main otter]

I can’t decide among RP5/RP Flip 2/Odin 2 Portal/Steam Deck either

Leaning towards RP5/Flip 2

And then down the road Steam Deck 2/other handheld PC

[heady snow]

Ayn needs to make an odin 2 portal flip stat

[glass turret]

If I started the whole handheld journey again, I'd go Flip 2 + Steam Deck OLED. And then call it a day.

[crimson garden]

'Dont worry about the $80' - Clippy

[main otter]

Yep, a killer EDC and couch device

[pine cove]

Remember when you find the perfect handheld, just fucking leave this community

[proper bear]

Everyone should have at least one steam deck

Required by law

[leaden kiln]

If I was me I would say flip 2/rp5 steam deck or rog ally and switch 2

[main otter]

And Reddit and YouTube

[glass turret]

That's the catch. You won't

[proper bear]

OneXSugar baby. Might just leave the planet

[heady snow]

Is the steam deck oled battery life actually that good, that's the main reason why I've considered getting one but for more demanding games I'm not so sure

[coarse lion]

Steam Deck 2 OLED, someday

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[glass turret]

NGL the only games on Switch I care about is Zelda, and Pokemon. They've been doin a terrible job with the latter so my motivation to buy the Switch 2 (and future versions) is almost zero

[leaden kiln]

It's good as hell especially old games steam deck is like perfect device for indies old games and emulation

[proper bear]

Depends what you consider demanding. Most full OS handhelds are kinda ass with battery when playing modern stuff. Just kinda the way it is

[glass turret]

I'd just wait IMO. The handheld industry is evolving rapidly.

[leaden kiln]

I can't speak for me since I don't own switch at all

[sudden agate]

Steam deck oled battery life is good but sleep with es or retroarch running drains battery really bad, strangely.

[proper bear]

What we really need is new battery tech

[lean lotus]

As interesting as Mario Kart World looked, before learning it's price, I think I'll wait a bit before getting the Switch 2. Maybe I'll get it with Donkey Kong.

[coarse lion]

Why do most Nintendo fans only care about those games when they have one of the best exclusivity catalogs of the last generation 😭

[glass turret]

Oh that's a nice feeling. Wish I could go back to those days.

[proper bear]

You can only get so efficient with chips and whatnot. But new battery tech breakthrough would be pretty awesome for everything

[stark flicker]

i get 2 hours in elden ring at 30fps/high settings. i get ~8 hours of game streaming.

[heady snow]

mainly newer-ish games, like late 2010s to early 2020s, from what I've seen its only around 2 hours for stuff like that, which doesn't seem to be as good as I hoped, better than my legion go but not quite there imo

[sudden agate]

They miss out on the brainrot call of battlepass fun though

[leaden kiln]

Yh so that's why I'm saying nintendo switch 2 would be third console I ever bought since wii/ds

[coarse lion]

game streaming is so goated

[proper bear]

Slap a 3" screen on that bad boy and it'd last much longer

[leaden kiln]

It's more than 2 hours I swear

[stark flicker]

except for some japanese games. MH Wilds kinda ruins both my switch and my pc when I try to stream it through steam remote play

[glass turret]

Because a lot of us grew up with both those franchises being the reason for us to get Nintendo consoles. NGL. Nintendo is very smart to have very good exclusives.

The Pokemon and Zelda franchise being some of their top sellers ain't a joke

[heady snow]

Think i'm just going to get a battery pack mount for my legion go, probably better than buying a whole new handheld tbh

[proper bear]

Zelda gets me every time

It's impossible not to own at that point

[lean lotus]

tbf, Zelda being on par in sales with Pokemon is a very recent thing, and basically only applies to BotW and TotK iirc.

[coarse lion]

I say this mostly because people are always asking for a new pokemon, a zelda and a mario, and behind them they have an incredible catalog of games

[sudden agate]

Shoutout to gamefreak for the achievement

[coarse lion]

Xenoblade 3, Metroid Dread, Paper Mario TTYD & Pikmin 4 are amazing

[proper bear]

Difference is I would replay a Zelda. Not sure id do that with pokemon

[glass turret]

Nostalgia is hell of a drug.

[lean lotus]

You say that as if sales lowered for Pokemon, rather than heightened with Zelda lol

[glass turret]

This is why I love ROMhacks. Keeps it fresh

[untold flame]

9184

1948

1894

[proper bear]

Oh 100%. Makes a world of difference

[coarse lion]

fr

I have many friends who ignore any switch release just because they are not the 3 main known nintendo games

is so sad

[proper bear]

Eh. Totally valid

[lean lotus]

Before Breath of the Wild, the highest selling Zelda game, not including remakes/remasters was Twilight Princess at almost 9 million sales.

Breath of the Wild has sold almost 33 million units. Tears of the Kingdom is already over 20 million. It's genuinely nuts.

[glass turret]

Yeah that's me included

[novel crystal]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendo-will-sell-a-cheaper-330-switch-2-in-japan-thats-region-locked/

[untold flame]

wooh

region locking is back baby!

[sudden agate]

Although I am already done with the botw/totk hyrule, I still secretly hope that there would be a time travel mod or expansion to connect the two games.

[coarse lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869321051295842324/965687720997441536/20220410_232609.gif

[proper bear]

Maybe if I didn't have a backlog of 8000 games on 3 other systems I'd not wait for a main switch title I'm interested in. Heh

The only thing that's got me tempted now is the backwards compatibility

Elden ring that doesn't run like ass would be cool

[crimson garden]

Can we move on to switch 3 rumours now?

[novel crystal]

Meanwhile me waiting on a clamshell emulation handheld that I run GameCube on while people get switch 2s for a high price

[glass turret]

Realistically, I play more games on a PC. The only draw for me on the Switch are the exclusives.

Even then, time is limited as an adult. So I'm just going to care about the few exclusives I know

[proper bear]

Yeah. With a PS5 and PC I'm in the same boat for the most part. Except games I've wanted to be portable that arent

[lean lotus]

Since I got a Steam Deck, I stopped getting indies on my Switch entirely.

Now I basically only get the Nintendo Exclusives on mine.

[proper bear]

Yeah. I prefer them on steam deck too

[glass turret]

Yeah. And Steam sales are more often than the Nintendo store sales.

[proper bear]

And cheaper usually

[lean lotus]

Most of what I get on Steam Deck is indies lol. The vast majority of the time the sales are very comparable. Maybe a dollar more or two on Switch than Steam.

And really if I'm really wanting a specific indie game, I will just get it at launch for full price/10% off.

[coarse lion]

i sell the switch because of my gaming pc and steam deck

[lean lotus]

Well I still like Nintendo games.

[sudden agate]

It's not even about sales. Nintendo eshop is horrible to use.

[lean lotus]

The vast majority of stores are awful to use.

I literally only ever go into the Switch eShop, or PSN to buy a game I already know I'm gonna buy.

[heady snow]

what? you don't like slow loading times and ai generated shovelware?

[glass turret]

Not if you live in Australia. Indies are noticeably more expensive on the Nintendo store, sale or not

[sudden agate]

Still better than ubiconnect.
I mostly dislike it for its lack of personal recommendation

[proper bear]

Hey man. Australians also have like 1 foot wide spiders that live in their homes. So I expect everything to be slightly insane

[novel crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900151360903868479/1357083619906027610/Screenshot_20250402_210536_Firefox_Focus.jpg?ex=67eeea1c&is=67ed989c&hm=579210ce596458b6d8602307bb2c8bc29bbcf6031313d27b1251a335b4bc8916&

[glass turret]

https://petapixel.com/2025/04/02/sd-express-finally-has-a-use-but-it-dumped-its-biggest-advantage/

[proper bear]

Not that I've ever had PlayStation or Xbox stores recommend me stuff I actually want anyway 😆

[glass turret]

Beat me to it.

[novel crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900151360903868479/1357084412663304354/Screenshot_20250402_210825_Firefox_Focus.jpg?ex=67eeead9&is=67ed9959&hm=f343b39aee668e35cb432931ca253044d0516aeb2037d22da630961ea8b858f2&

[main otter]

It's probably just a me thing. I just can't get into any 3D Zelda games. I love A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds, but couldn't enjoy Ocarina of Time and Breath of the Wild.

[novel crystal]

You forgot about twilight princess

[proper bear]

I love em all. Except the first 2

[main otter]

I haven't played it so I can't comment. But for among all Zelda that I have played I only like 2D ones. I also didn't like those on the DS

[sudden agate]

I think totk is easier to get "into" than oot or botw. Slightly more handholding and the right amount.

[glass turret]

Nintendo pls. Why you gotta make people buy new memory cards.

[lean lotus]

The only one I don't have any real attachment to is Tri Force Heroes

[main otter]

Currently playing The Minish Cap and I love it like the other two 2D Zeldas

[lean lotus]

Mostly because it released at an awkward time for where I was at in time.

[proper bear]

True. Some of their side games are kinda meh

[lean lotus]

Link's Awakening, and the Oracle games are also great.

[proper bear]

Actually I struggled getting into skyward sword

[main otter]

Did you play with the wii mote and swing around LOL

[glass turret]

I love Minish Cap.

[novel crystal]

Skyward sword has somewhat awkward controls

[lean lotus]

Minish Cap is tied for my favorite 2D Zelda with A Link Between Worlds.

[coarse lion]

https://fxtwitter.com/YoMoonskii/status/1907452273313058866

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[proper bear]

Maybe that's why, cause I didn't. I did actually swing it in twilight princess XD

[coarse lion]

I have to share this LMAOOO

[main otter]

Somewhat is an understatement 😅

[proper bear]

Awkward controls. Kinda bland environments. Annoying side characters.

[sudden agate]

IGN 10/10 tho

[timber steppe]

If they released an r36 they would make money money money

[glass turret]

Isn't IGN short for IGNore?

[true nest]

Expensive console, expensive games, expensive new SDcard express BS, .... sorry Nintendo, not this time

[proper bear]

Damn. They almost got you

[glass turret]

Yeah it'll probably be at least 5 years before (Micro)SDExpress gets priced reasonably.

New format memory cards are fucking expensive.

[proper bear]

At least they're not Sony proprietary

[glass turret]

Like when cameras started using CFExpress, ooft my wallet. Thank fuck I can put them down as a business expensve

[glass turret]

I imagine Nintendo would've made a Nintendo proprietary if they could

[sudden agate]

To be fair their skyward sword review was very well made and had the epic orchestra music playing in the background. I immediately bought my copy after watching that.

[timber steppe]

Every console is gonna do it anyways

[ember perch]

If I buy the international Switch 2 in Japan, can I play Japanese software in English like with the Switch 1?

[true nest]

next gen console yes, Switch isnt a NEXT gen console

[glass turret]

Are they even going to sell the international version in Japan, I wonder.

[ember perch]

I guess that's a good point

[coarse lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705623420200812585/1348825894436733071/TRUTH_NUKE50.gif

[lean lotus]

Didn't Lexar already announce SDEX cards $100 for 512GB and $200 for 1TB?

Bad, but hopefully it'll go down like normal SD cards quickly enough.

[coarse lion]

$200 for 1TB? 💀

[tame roost]

i mean i get why they need sd express tbh otherwise load times for modern games would be dogshit

[coarse lion]

hell nah

[uncut swallow]

we still yet to see the specs to classify it at least gen 8 console

[glass turret]

Announce is one thing. With inflation and tariffs going around, I doubt the price will stay

[tame roost]

what do specs have to do with it lmao its releasing in 2025 it's a 9th gen console

[proper bear]

As if Nintendo followed console gens anymore anyway

[glass turret]

Nintendo in their own lane, doing their own shit because they know their big competitors aren't competing with them anymore.

[pine cove]

Tbh I don't care specs of games are good lol

[glass turret]

The only people competing with Nintendo now are handheld makers and they're tiny compared to Nintendo

[pine cove]

I buy Nintendo solely for Nintendo games

[uncut swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-you-joke-gif-9757390

[glass turret]

Nintendo doesn't need to make a "good" console at this point. Only "good enough"

[tame roost]

i dont know you tbh idk how im supposed to recognize that you're just joking when you say something stupid my b

[proper bear]

Does anything even do native 4K yet?

Console wise

[tame roost]

easier to just assume you're stupid cuz people are stupid

[true nest]

do you think they decrease prices as they did in the past because they were too high?

[uncut swallow]

i need to give them another chance one day .... but i dont think i can still disconnect myself from the hype i was told for years ... to be able to enjoy most of them them properly

[tame roost]

no not really. maybe for very specific games

[proper bear]

More likely they'll push the release of a lite forward

[uncut swallow]

looking at 🎺's tarriff direct , i expect them go higher in coming monhts at least US side

[proper bear]

Yeah. True. Lol

[lean lotus]

Can't wait for Switch 2 Lite in 2027, and Switch 2 OLED in 2028.

[tame roost]

yeah i mean i think thats why the gap between the us and japanese price is so big, future proofing so they dont have to raise the price

[timber steppe]

Not that bad

[tame roost]

if the situation gets better they might drop it

[proper bear]

"I bit my tongue on my happy meal this morning, 50% tarrifs on China!"

[lean lotus]

I mean, it's ~3x the cost of normal micro SD cards of the same size lol. I would consider that "bad". Not god awful, but not good either.

[timber steppe]

Compare it to nvmes first coming out

[uncut swallow]

damn that might complicate our retrogandhelds here

[lean lotus]

"hopefully it'll go down like normal SD cards quickly enough"

[tame roost]

but yeah ive resigned myself to the fact that i need to buy this eventually but im not sure about launch

[lean lotus]

I'll wait and see.

[tame roost]

i have a ps5 and an ally so im not sure how much i care about this for third party

[true nest]

if Nintendo Only use them, dont think so

[glass turret]

Just wait for the OLED version in a few years. By then, they would have a solid Switch 2 catalogue. That's what I'm doing.

[true nest]

Im done buying D1 anyway

[timber steppe]

1 gig read times is insane for something that small

[tame roost]

i mean i play competitive splatoon so like, im definitely getting it the moment splatoon 4 hits it lol

[timber steppe]

Makes sense why it costs so much

[tame roost]

regardless of if there's a new model out or not

[glass turret]

Fair. Well no rush until that releases then. You have your answer

[timber steppe]

Ngl wheel chair basketball the best launch title for me

[tame roost]

i do really wanna play the new mario kart tho lol

looks like a huge step up

[proper bear]

Oh it's gonna get complicated

[lean lotus]

As interesting as Mario Kart World is to me, it's not $80 interesting. I'm already only barely okay with paying $70 for a select few titles.

[sudden agate]

Then splatoon 4 special edition launches for $50 more

[timber steppe]

3 months later it will be like 40-50

[lean lotus]

Probably

[tame roost]

??? splatoon 4 doesnt exist yet lol. but they didnt include 3 in the list of switch 2 enhanced games so i figure 4 is coming soon

[lean lotus]

People love to say Nintendo games never go on sale, but a quick look at sales history on DekuDeals usually proves them wrong lol.

[true nest]

June is too early, rather take my vacation, Ill wait at least Christmas or 2026

[glass turret]

Considering it's open world, I would wait until they sort out the kinks. Can't recall a Nintendo game that had an online aspect without any issues.

[lean lotus]

I've been tossing $20 in a secondary savings account for the Switch 2 since the start of the year lol.

[glass turret]

On launch day I mean

[lean lotus]

Currently at $260, will be at $460 at Swtich 2's release.

And I'll probably just wait until DK Bananza's release to get one tbh.

[sudden agate]

Mario Kart 8 on wii U was great day one

[stark flicker]

the cheap jp switch:

[lean lotus]

I'm willing to beat they're selling that thing at a major loss.

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/duolingo-cool-fire-sunglasses-bird-gif-16472283686509279878

[novel crystal]

Probably more closer to cost at best

[stark flicker]

yeah 135 USD cheaper, guessing they're eating at least 75USD loss

[lean lotus]

Duality of man

[novel crystal]

Switch 2 is not using very expensive components

[sudden agate]

Then this cheap Switch 2 becomes collectible item and more expensive than regular Switch 2 in a few years

[true nest]

I think is expensive because of the Dock 😦

[stark flicker]

yeah its becoming pretty clear the SoC is not as good as it was hyped up to be

[leaden kiln]

Second it would be uk prices

[lean lotus]

$400 is what I wanted, but $450 was still in my realm of expectations

[glass turret]

Probably break even or loss with the console, and make up for it with game sales. Like the PS2 did

[novel crystal]

What do you mean then it was hyped up to be? Oren is like 2 years old at this point and was heavily cost optimized over power

[leaden kiln]

People was excited to be light and powerful

As ps4 handheld

That still seems the case

[novel crystal]

I have no idea why people are thinking the switch 2 cost as much to make as a current gen ayn device

[leaden kiln]

All I care is I'm going to play switch 1 games since this is my first switch I ever own

[novel crystal]

And ayn makes devices to make money

[leaden kiln]

Plus at least in uk its £395 for base model that's win in my books

Japan and UK are eating good

[stark flicker]

nvidia was far ahead in both raster and compute/rtx than amd, i expected this to blow away steam deck.

[novel crystal]

Well that didn't pan out did it?

[leaden kiln]

We don't know the performance yet tho

On paper it should be better than steam deck

[novel crystal]

We have a rough idea of what Oren can do

Expect the switch 2 to be a bit better then a steam deck but worse then a current gen handheld from a OEM

[stark flicker]

nothing they showed today looked or ran better than deck. yes we don't have framegraphs but i doubt it will completely contradict eye test

[lean lotus]

That's if Nintendo doesn't downclock the hell out of the device no?

They did for the Switch 1 iirc.

[novel crystal]

Then we would get short battery life

Assuming the fan can handle the heat

[leaden kiln]

2 hours which is worst than switch lite and og switch

[leaden kiln]

Exactly

[stark flicker]

if it runs elden ring at 60 fps i'll eat my hat.

[untold flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QECuK0_tE

hes so happy

[leaden kiln]

Let me be honest as well steam deck can't even do 60fps for Elden ring or cyberpunk

[glass turret]

We're assuming they won't underclock to give better battery life

[novel crystal]

what?

[leaden kiln]

I mean they said its 2 to 6.5 hours

So more demanding games would be 2 hours

[untold flame]

ah this reminds me of the peak days for unemployment

new news everyday

[leaden kiln]

Lmaooooo

[untold flame]

something entertaining at all times

[glass turret]

2 hours. The outrage

[untold flame]

the pandemic was so jobless friendly

ps5, xbox series x

bunch of new games

[glass turret]

Animal Crossing peaking

[stark flicker]

LOL trump announced 34% tarriffs on japan (10% global + 24% japan)

[untold flame]

real americans buy steam deck

[stark flicker]

that's 44% tarriff (10% + 34% china)

[untold flame]

real americans buy switch 2

[glass turret]

Congrats to the Americans.

[leaden kiln]

But it's using 5220mh meaning it's 19whr battery

[true nest]

Trump is bipolar, Ill chang his mind in few days

[glass turret]

They've should've doubled it because real gamers have strong arms, wrists, and hands /s

[leaden kiln]

Yes but people will still complaining anyway

[elfin bronze]

I swear switch direct was like B plus until I looked up more details online lol

80$ dollar game is gross.

20% off is now 64$. And you know nintendo is slow on sales

[glass turret]

People always complain. Including myself. Because we all think we're Nintendo's most important customer

[proper bear]

Have to buy American made now. Only $2K for 1080p at 30hz

[glass turret]

And I have to remind myself, Nintendo caters to kids and families first

[proper bear]

Now it's parents who owned an NES and SNES and their children

Passing the baton

[leaden kiln]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[leaden kiln]

B plus bro that was A Plus for me

I'm sorry they showed more than I expected

I already signed up for Nintendo today after this direct

That's how much nintendo moved me

I never got moved like that since steam deck launch