Switch 2

[rapid dawn]

I mean what do you want exactly?

[untold flame]

nintendo gimmicks obviously

[next ginkgo]

What I want is... the birth of the dpad; analog stick (effectively): analog shoulder buttons; 3d display; touch screen; dual screen; cart mapper expansion; motion control (effectively). Added: actual shoulder buttons.

What I was left with ahead of the trailer was: I just hope they bring back the dpad and analog triggers. Fucking crushing.

[lean lotus]

dpad ain't coming to the official joycons. Even super early on for Switch 1 Nintendo just let Hori do it instead.

But yeah, mouse joycons seem to be the gimmick that'll be used once or twice and forgotten afterwards, like the IR sensor

[untold flame]

sensor?

used twice

never again

[spice badge]

Weakest part of the switch 1 is its power, this has more power. We’ll now get a playable Pokemon title lol

[untold flame]

and joycons

damn small

[latent vortex]

pokemon could have already been playable
gamefreak is just ass at optimizing even a little bit

[winter pecan]

no

the switch 2 is a switch that plays more demanding games

that's it

anything more exciting than that you'll have to look elsewhere

[high barn]

Nothing else that’s actively needed, since the expected power is gonna be outright significantly better than the Switch 1, even if the chipset has an underclock.

Mouse Controls built into the Joycons is actually pretty cool, since there is a lot of stuff they could potentially do with it. And it would make sense if that was the only actual “innovation” they add to the thing, since it’s already also piggybacking on the Switch 1’s whole concept.

[high barn]

Nah, Pokémon game’s are unironically the most optimized games I’ve seen be made in their standard conditions.

…The problem is that those “standard conditions” are fucking awful.

ScVi as an example are open world games with literally over 2000 unique models overall to work with (all of which you have to bug test and make sure are working properly, on top of the regular bug testing for open world games), and it was made with less than 80 devs in only 2-3 years (with likely a minimal budget as well). Versus most other open world games having 300-400 devs working on the thing for at least 5 years or more.

[odd scaffold]

Nintendo has been trying to keep doing new gimmicks for a while and they basically never stick the way something like them inventing the d-pad did. People are largely happy with how games control on controllers, you need something really really good to convince people to hop ship. Pretty much the only thing that's actually carried over since the wii is motion control aiming, no one likes the other aspects of motion controls. Touch control took off majorly in the mobile space, too. But like not many people used the 3d on the 3ds, they didn't like having to use the wiiu gamepad and hated the way Star Fox Zero tried to force control innovation, nothing uses the weird IR sensor in the joycons, and not that much even uses the motion controls in the joycons. People gravitated to the hybrid design of the Switch so it's totally understandable they're just making a bigger, more comfortable, and more powerful version of it. It works.

Mouse stuff could be really cool too, actually. I have an Azeron Cyborg and getting mouse aiming with analogue joystick movement is a godsend when games support it!

[high barn]

Like, genuine props to Game Freak’s game devs, they did a way better job than most people I’ve seen make games in those types of conditions. But fuck the Game Freak Execs for forcing them to make games in those conditions in the first place.

[uncut swallow]

question is if Game Freak is even capable of optimizing it for the more power 😄

[high barn]

Have you seen the performance of Arceus and ScVi on an overclocked switch? The fact they legit perform better when you push the cpu to the level used by dev units reek of rushed development leading to them only basing their optimization tests on said dev units, and not on the consumer units used for final testing.

[high barn]

And of course, they can’t go back to update it themselves, because “they gotta get to work on the next pokemon game to have it out 2-3 years from now, leave it to B-Team, they’re already working on the DLC anyways”.

[high barn]

Nevermind the fact that the DLC is already adding a brand new environment that they have to also test and make sure runs well enough to release in less than a year (here’s a hint on how well that went, Kitakami ran worse than Paldea while Blueberry did run better, but only because it was outright a smaller/simpler environment overall), on top of doing the updates for gamebreaking bugs in base game.

[foggy raft]

I'm waiting for Sony to talk about heir handheld project

[untold flame]

Oh there's no point

Maybe if they figure out what the hell they're doing with exclusives

Otherwise gaming PC plus switch 2 is the way

[lean lotus]

Just be happy they're selling their games on PC now. Like, peeps have been begging for that for over a decade, and now that they do PC gamers especially seem to really love talking about how Sony has no exclusives.

Feels like they want Sony to have exclusives, so they can go back to complaining about it.

[high barn]

Reminder not to fall for the Goomba Fallacy.

[lean lotus]

Nah, I'm even talking about people I know.

I have friends and acquaintances I've known for years that were PC gamers most of their lives, always annoyed that they would've had to buy a PS3 or PS4 to play Sony exclusives, and now that they finally can play what would be PS5 exclusives on their PCs, they love to drag on Sony for not having exclusives.

[high barn]

Oof, so you’re dealing with the real deal then.

[lean lotus]

It's so hard to have the self control to not go Syndrome meme on 'em

Part of it is the goomba. Just surprising that the community as a whole would bitch about exclusives, but then when exclusives are more opened, now the loud opinion is how dare there not be exclusives.

The bigger thing is that at least Sony is still making/publishing games, whereas Microsoft for a long time, just kinda wasn't.

[proper bear]

Eh. Fanbois love to move goalposts

You saw it with android and apple for years. Android would add some new feature. Apple fanbois would call it dumb. Apple would add it, they'd praise it. People would point at the hypocrisy, apple fans would claim its better (despite being the same). Rinse and repeat.

Same with defending hardly any ram. Etc

Samsung technically copied the rectangle

Was wild times

[high barn]

Yup, and it goes both ways as well.

I don’t know about others on here, but while Android users were rightfully making fun of Apple when they first started getting rid of the headphone jack, I (for some godawful reason I still don’t understand, even as an iPhone user) saw way too many people defending when most Android phone devs started getting rid of the headphone jack as well, saying “it’s different because they’re using USB-C for the dongles, which is way better than Lightning”, even though dongles suck regardless.

[proper bear]

Amen. Dongles are the worst

USB c still better than lightning. But both can die in a fire

Same with removing microSD slots

[high barn]

God, that and the headphones in particular was the bullshit that convinced me to stay with iPhone when I was starting to debate switching.
Why the hell would I swap from Apple to Android if all the phones my phone plan offered had the exact same issues I was resenting in Apple, on top of outright being more expensive?

[proper bear]

iPhone moving to glass backs. Then android followed. Etc.

It's wild people fought over their products as if making them shittier was better

[high barn]

Like come on! I’m giving you the perfect opportunity to convince me to buy your stuff instead, and you decide to enshitify and bloat the price on your stuff the exact moment I actually have the chance to switch?

[untold flame]

dont mention those accursed things

[proper bear]

Motorola and sony kept headphones jacks and SD card slots for a bit at least

[untold flame]

genuinely the worst

[proper bear]

Of course Sony phones also cost more than iphones

[untold flame]

hub to dolphinbar is so annoying

if only samsung hadnt removed aptx hd

[grand delta]

https://youtu.be/MUjnSFR-jyI?si=szUtdS2GddRs3fUj

So nintendo have maked some new "patents" I don't know how to say it in english

The double screen thing and camera is really possible

But it's not sure

[fallen dome]

"Patents" is correct!

[proper bear]

A second screen attachment would be amazing for 3ds and ds backlog

Might honestly get me to care less about a dual screen handheld

[untold flame]

BETRAYAL

oh sorry caps lock was on

[high barn]

Soo…did this guy in any way mention that the “products” on the thumbnail were from fan renders?

[untold flame]

hey its french

im vaguely okay at that

finally comprehensible input

this guy says its real

not a rumor

but i'm not that good at french lemme listen some more

[grand delta]

Im french

The guy basically said it's possible

Because there's some patents

That shows that feature

[untold flame]

smart fella is commentating

listen all!

but hes not talking about the dual screen is he?

just the usb c and aux jack are rotatable

[grand delta]

Yeah but the second screen there's a patent on it

And the video it's a fan renderer

[untold flame]

past the part where he shows the switch render idk enough french for that

[grand delta]

He talks about it

[untold flame]

im dumb 😦

[grand delta]

No it's fine french is difficult

Even for me and im french lol

[proper bear]

Damn dude. Not gonna lie. That second screen def ultimate SP. Lol

Wasn't there a port or sensor on top that people were speculating about?

[grand delta]

Yeah

[proper bear]

Would make the whole attachable thing more likely

Damn

That's awesome

[grand delta]

It's because you can turn the console

That would be game changer

[proper bear]

Dude. So many posibilities

Getting more excited. Was hoping Nintendo wouldn't fail us on some weird stuff. Lol

[untold flame]

but he has such an easy to understand accent for french learners and i still dont get it

that videos like so easy to understand they should use it as a listening practice when they get to tech related units for french classes

[grand delta]

You know I used to struggle with english too

But just listen to more french videos

Even if it's 5 minutes

And on something that interest you

You'll see you will learn more

It's what I did and now im not that bad talking and understanding english

[proper bear]

I imagine some of it is the content tho? I always found that anything technical in language can be dense

Trying to figure out Chinese for any hardware descriptions can be a nightmare

[grand delta]

Yeah true

[untold flame]

this guy seemed to be more of a general news overview type fella

wulff den

not subway intel p core

[grand delta]

Yeah EMB just do daily gaming news

It's his principal content

He have two other channels too that play games and cook

He do everything lol.

[proper bear]

Haha. Every French content creator has cook

[untold flame]

every retro creator cooks

subway intel p core wrote cookboks

[proper bear]

Not that it's a bad thing. French cuisine

[grand delta]

Yeah french cuisine is amazing

[untold flame]

ok there were a bunch of words i didnt get but the video is generally comprehensible

[high barn]

Ok, so he at least acknowledges that they’re fan renders?

[grand delta]

Yes

It's still very possible though

Because of the patents

[high barn]

Alright, that was the only thing I was really concerned about since it’s particularly bad when people pretend fan renders are real leaked designs since the people who made that render end up getting a potential target on their back that might not be used, but is still not ok regardless.

[untold flame]

And we all know how the French feel about significant figures lying

[high barn]

Very Important News.

Switch 2 is completely worthless. /s

[odd scaffold]

Is there a reliable source for this?

I don't think we should count out pizza making abilities until Nintendo themselves deconfirms it

[untold flame]

If they used a larger transistor size it would still eork

[heady snow]

Completely and categorically false. The top usb port indicates that an oven accessory is currently in the works

[untold flame]

And a dual screen

Coincidentally this is similar power to the d8300

Y'know what else has a d8300? And a second screen (accessory)

[heady snow]

https://tenor.com/view/sageykins-neolliam-gif-26212324

[untold flame]

Indeed

Raaaah super SP!!!!!!!

[rapid dawn]

Powkiddy keeps winning

[untold flame]

Exynos on top!!!!

[proper bear]

Looks like WiFi 6 and NFC

which isn't overly shocking, but was in the FCC filings

[stuck slate]

no way

[proper bear]

That's what i'm here for, to provide useless info 👍

[ember perch]

wake me up when street pass 2 is announced

[stuck slate]

https://tenor.com/view/salamaleikum-nebesa-visoki-cat-sleep-gif-26486949

[untold flame]

I can't see a comfy way to carry 8 inches in your everyday pants

Maybe massive cargo pants

[stuck slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-shyboos-smile-gif-24233810

[winter pecan]

you'd be surprised

[stuck slate]

I definitely can't relate

[latent vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813079237794856990/1201583052439158914/ED6EFBC5-A68E-48C6-9103-B123B1ECC22D.gif

[high barn]

Ok, that’s pretty funny.

[iron apex]

Sadly discord mobile ruined the joke for me

[zealous mason]

After what Nintendo has done to the competitive smash scene, modding community & going after content creators I'm not giving them my money

[open osprey]

Tbf, the Smash community brought that on themselves, but the others are understandable

[zealous mason]

How is Nintendo saying that if they have a smash tournament they will sue tournament organizers on the smash community?

https://youtu.be/FcireDhKX-I?si=EqXJrs_xM5uXjL2q

[lean lotus]

They're talking about the multiple Smash community members, that were child predators. The big drama from like five years ago.

[rapid dawn]

That really doesn't have anything to do with Nintendo's actions on them

Like when they shut down a tournament for using a mod to be able to play Melee remotely DURING THE COVID SHUTDOWN

[lean lotus]

There isn't exactly much else to qualify as "brought that on themselves"

[rapid pollen]

oh no, I missed out on this completely, who was outed?

[lean lotus]

Zero is the big one I remember

[rapid pollen]

the Brawl guy?

[high barn]

I’m not even joking when I say “most of the ones currently in Competitive Smash at the time”.

Like, the effective worst part is that it was most of the leaderboard.

[lean lotus]

This is a summary of it that I just found:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/hlyrgs/regarding_sexual_assault_allegations_in_the_super/fx2i54g/

[rapid pollen]

I am extremely out of the loop because the only names I recognize here are D1, sky williams, and m2k

[lean lotus]

Probably, I have no idea. I never really followed competitive smash.

[rapid pollen]

that is insane though, sheesh

[odd scaffold]

Yeah it became a big thing that you can never trust a smash player to take a shower or to be around a child. That has nothing to do with what Nintendo does though and their actions are far more in line with how they normally treat modifications and the fan community at large. Nintendo doesn't like their fans and they especially don't like their fans trying to enjoy Nintendo products in a way outside of the company's intention

If you ask them "how else were we supposed to play Melee competitively during lockdown" they'd say "you were supposed to get a Nintendo Switch Online account and play Ultimate!" if you ask them how you're supposed to play F-Zero GX or Super Paper Mario or Fire Emblem Path of Radiance they'd say "no, you're supposed to be playing the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe game for the Nintendo Switch family of consumer electronics or Paper Mario The Origami King or Fire Emblem Engage"

It's a shame because they basically make the only big games I'm interested in these days. It's basically all Nintendo, indies, and maybe a bit of Capcom stuff like Monster Hunter

[lean lotus]

For the second "if" they've actually answered that question officially iirc.

The answer is to buy a Gamecube and a copy of the game. No they won't see any of that money, but that's still their answer lol. Instead of just selling those games to people that would amost certainly buy them.

[stuck slate]

Minecraft YouTubers and competitive smash players are like 90% child predators

[odd scaffold]

I mean I think they'd rather you just play what they're releasing and maybe if you're a good little sigma they'll rerelease the game you actually want to play, but only if you sit and lay down and roll over

[limber fog]

Nintendo is an ancient Japanese company that really only wants to to care about what they are currently selling. If they sell you an old game, you will buy it again at full price.

Nintendo would rather you take what they give you

SEGA meanwhile is more than open to Sonic fan games

Because they mostly make money on merch/licensing

Famously that laid-back attitude led to Sonic Mania

[untold flame]

What's the story with mania?

Sometimes it pops up as official

Sometimes it seems unofficial

[echo dew]

it's made by fans but it's official

[lean lotus]

If I remember the story the dev team of Sonic Mania was making it, pitched it to Sega, and Sega went "oh this is cool" and decided to back it.

It helped that Christian Whitehead had made the mobile ports of Sonic 1, 2, and CD. So it wasn't just some random fan coming up to Sega. It was someone that had already been a business partner with them.

[rapid dawn]

I'm choosing to believe "SecretBoy" regarding this https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-leak-huge-display-upgrade-specs/

[lean lotus]

Seems too fancy to me with Nintendo.

[rapid dawn]

120 Hz doesn't mean they expect their chipset to reach that framerate, but 120 hz will allow 40 fps, which I think is a pretty sweet spot for "game that can't reach 60 fps but can do better than just 30"

[compact sable]

I am very skeptical about this one

Android only just now supports VRR on Android 15 and the driver stack in Horizon is built off AOSP so my doubt meter is high

[leaden kiln]

No way

That's too fancy

[untold flame]

I mean it's vrr

[clever geyser]

The April reveal seemed so far away… but it’s nearly here now!

[latent vortex]

[unkempt beacon]

120Hz and vrr

[void cloak]

VRR just means the next Pokemon game can run at 20 fps with vsync on

[untold flame]

And 21 without

[proper bear]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/2ve1DXwDAF

Dunno if new or valid

[untold flame]

It's the same as what we had

Earlier

Same post

[unkempt beacon]

100% doubt for me

[minor bay]

Considering my switch was basically an indie machine (that was replaced by steam deck) everything I’ve seen so far is a resounding meh for me

[tawny halo]

If true, then they are not using the PS Portal screen that was initially rumoured. Don’t think PS Portal can do 120hz VRR. But happy to be wrong. PS portal screen is really nice

[slow flint]

120hz screens probably barely costs more money than 60hz ones these days

[rapid dawn]

Honestly it sounds so ridiculous that it sounds about right to me.

I can totally see Nintendo prioritizing 120Hz over OLED

[slow flint]

we have seen screens on anbernic devices secretly being able to do 120hz. maybe high refresh rate is not as costly as we all thought

personally I'd take 120hz LCD with VRR over OLED anyday

only 10 more days until the direct. damn we're really really close

[hidden vortex]

did they say they'd ever release a OLED model?

Is it possible

[leaden kiln]

They will in the future but they wouldn't say it now

[compact sable]

If Horizon is still based on the Android driver stack I’ll be really shocked if it has support in the OS for VRR since that’s only come with Android 15.

It’s more likely that the system will do what Valve does and do Adjustable Refresh Rate where the system can set the display and game to a static 70hz if the game struggles to go beyond 70 etc.

[torn wraith]

this is a interesting way to do it. I don’t like how the valve does it and hoping they will go VRR for next gen

[compact sable]

The way Valve handles it is pretty much the way most ARM device have to handle it for a while

[stuck viper]

especially true for small screens

man now that we have a handheld with some actual rt cores plus its nvidia, there so much potential. obviously rt would be too costly for most games

but i could 100% see it being used in Luigis Mansion 4

LM only needs to render one room at a time, at a single camera angle most of the time, so i think they could pull it off performance wise

it would be so cool to have all the ghosts have a realistic glow, and have luigi's flashlight light the room like a real flash light would

[round sparrow]

A lot of midrange phones these days are shipping with higher refresh rates, it wouldn't actually surprise me if we got a 120hz display

But I'm not holding my breath

[rapid pollen]

There are phones at $200 with 120hz displays lol

[stuck viper]

only reason i can see nintendo going 120, is because a 60hz vrr screen costs about the same as a 120hz vrr screen atp

highy doubt any nintendo first parties will target above 60fps

its likely gonna be more important for third party games tho to target 40/45fps

[round sparrow]

I could see something lighter like a potential mario maker 3 or something to target 120fps

[stuck viper]

maybe

indie games mayeb could do 120

but youd have to consider battery life

could see a lot more games with unlocked fps

[round sparrow]

they could do BFI on the NSO retro consoles

[stuck viper]

any switch 1 game with unlocked fps orignally could go crazy

[stuck viper]

whats bfi

[round sparrow]

black frame insertion

[stuck viper]

heck yeah

nintens emulators are so hlaf baked tho

highly doubt wed ever get something like that

lol

[round sparrow]

def not

[stuck viper]

wont lie the little glimpse of mk9 we saw isnt that crazy impressive, but im guessing they intentionally chose a neutral looking stage

the lighting is just super flat in that stage

[round sparrow]

I'm holding my reservations until I see more titles

[stuck viper]

something tells me mk9 might be cross gen

[round sparrow]

I think most of the titles we're gonna see next week will be cross gen

they're going to show off just how much better they'll look and run on the new hardware

especially a game like metroid prime 4

[stuck viper]

it really depends how much they put into switch 2 version

in the past cross gen titles basically get developed for the old hardware

and then rushed onto the new platform with very minor improvements

[stuck viper]

tbf i think the yt compression of the reveal trailer didnt help it that much

plus the footage was far more zoomed out then actual gameplay would be

if its cross gen i wouldnt be suprised if 24 player mode is switch 2 exclusive

12 player only on switch 1

[round sparrow]

who knows how it'll be handled, but from nintendo's perspective there's around 150m~ switch 1 units out there

they're going to likely cross gen most of their titles until the switch 2 catches up to a comfortable level

[stuck viper]

we probably already know all of the "cross gen" games lol

pokemon legends za, metroid prime 4

i wonder if nintendo will make dedicated switch 2 physical releases for anything cross gen, or only ship a switch 1 box

[round sparrow]

maybe they'll go the gameboy color route, and have backwards compatible carts that are coloured differently or something

[leaden kiln]

They probably will but in Europe it's 50/50

[stuck viper]

i was honestly surprised the pokemon day direct didnt mention anything about pokemon legends and switch 2, maybe they cant until nintendos direct.

[leaden kiln]

Because some switch 1 games doesn't get physical cartridge at all just download box

[stuck viper]

at least just throw a 60fps patch in

a huge amount of switch games already have 60fps mode hidden in the code

[round sparrow]

they probably want to save any and all hype for april

[stuck viper]

as far as im aware, its been found for paper mario oragami king, paper mario ttyd, xenoblade chronicles x, lm 2 hd, and lm 3

[round sparrow]

some of these games were being made around the time the switch pro was being rumoured, so it makes sense for them to make them scalable

[stuck viper]

nintendo first parties?

some third party games did that bs here in the US

[leaden kiln]

Not the first party games

Thank God

[stuck viper]

people can say cope, but I really do think the switch pro was planned, but the chipped shortage basically prevented it so we just got the oled upgrade

its been shown that by only adding 4 more gbs of ram to the og switch would make a night and day difference

[round sparrow]

I think it's an open secret that the switch pro was planned around 2020, but covid happened and then the chip shortage

[stuck viper]

hopefully switch 2 backwards compat, will have handheld mode, running switch 1 games in their docked mode internally

another thing i wish well see more of on switch 2 is anti alasing

[round sparrow]

part of me hopes that we get next-gen patches to games like on the PS4-5

[stuck viper]

holy some games look super jaggy

[stuck viper]

id be happy with just free 60fps and Resolution patches

[round sparrow]

maybe pokemon scarlet will finally be playable

[stuck viper]

then if they wanna do full remasters showing off how much better switch 2 is, do like a $10 upgrade fee

especially if its remasters on the level of like Metroid Prime Remastered

[round sparrow]

prime level remasters will likely just be sold wholesale

[stuck viper]

at least give fps patches for free, because its honestly criminal how some switch 1 games released

[round sparrow]

I think about how sony have next gen patches for horizon and last of us remastered, but they also made next gen remasters for those games (really stupid and confusing IMO)

[stuck viper]

then if they try to double dip with switch 1 remasters at full price

i can just ignore them unless i really need it lol

[round sparrow]

watch next gen patches be exclusive to NSO members

[stuck viper]

switch 1 games look perfectly fine

its just the resolution and fps are the issue

[leaden kiln]

👀

[tidal tree]

hope we get prime 4 on this switch

[round sparrow]

that's all but guaranteed

[odd scaffold]

I'm gonna be very surprised if it's not there on the 2nd

[rapid pollen]

April 2nd is literally 9 days away y'all. The wait is almost over.

[odd scaffold]

And I'm desperate for more Prime 4 info, the actual trailer didn't give much to chew on lol

[tidal tree]

we need a new fzero

[odd scaffold]

I'm not holding my breath for that :(

At least we have Aero GPX

[stuck viper]

nintendo literally sitting on their own forza killer

[untold flame]

And there are phones that cost 800 with 60 hz🤡

[stuck viper]

same thing with metroid prime for halo

[tidal tree]

nah its still a niche i think

but i like when niche games get a successor like kid icarus/ f zero etc.

kid icarus uprising was such a gem

[stuck viper]

my money is on sakurais new game is a kid icarus remake

[tidal tree]

yea we dont need another smash, i want kid icarus

[odd scaffold]

I've been wanting an Uprising port with regular controls for so dang long now

That game looks right up my alley but I can't get into the controls

There is a m+kb mod on emulator but I've been holding out hope there'll be an official option lol

[rapid dawn]

quite the opposite. With 120 hz screen, then Nintendo and third parties can do things like target 40 fps. And if it even has VRR, that basically opens all the room for easier performance targets.

[untold flame]

It's 3ds only?

[round sparrow]

unfortunately so, I loved that game

[untold flame]

35 fps!

[odd scaffold]

Yeah they still haven't ported it to anything

It's very strange. Sakurai seemed like he really really wanted to push this new Kid Icarus as a big series and then it just didn't happen

[torn wraith]

I'm still having trouble with VRR display leak. I don't believe they will go VRR at all. They can go 120 since it might be the same cost but just don't see it being VRR

[tidal tree]

The only thing that will run on 120fps would be the systems menu then

[leaden kiln]

Maybe vrr when on docked

[untold flame]

Maybe celeste

[heady snow]

Hidden gem fr

Maybe we can get monster hunter wilds switch port

[stuck viper]

i also dont see how nintendos games would be below 60 this gen

[rapid dawn]

Early games won't be.

But we'll get first party sub 60 fps games eventually

[blazing sleet]

It would be important for them to have a display that exceeded the capability of the chipset for most games, much like so many switch games not hitting 60. 😀

[rapid dawn]

40 fps is less than the Switch 2's capacity for the games that will be released on it this year.

[tidal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-gif-22068268

[hushed vault]

No oled makes sense if it’s vrr - no oled flickering

[untold flame]

Super SP on top!!!!!!!

[unkempt beacon]

no oled because its nintendo and they always release a newer model a few years down the line

[proper bear]

Would love OLED but honestly some IPS are really nice these days. Will just do the normal upgrade at some point

[torn wraith]

But also, we know they will add OLED later like they did with switch 1. VRR makes less sense

[hushed vault]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/c4Vc1Ayxyc idk lol

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1904548985395945752?t=enmo_c7jcjTj9bxbEZki1Q&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Insider Gaming report: Switch 2 releasing in June with a 3-phase strategy approach for game releases:

1st: primarily 1st party at launch
2nd phase: 3rd party studio titles in Oct-Nov (dev kits expected in June)
3rd phase: games in holiday period

select media/creators attending

X · Mar 25, 2025, 3:00 PM

[sharp needle]

so what I'm hearing is wait until the holidays to consider buying

[leaden kiln]

So basically most of them probably had a dev kits like Microsoft capcom but not all of them

Personally I will wait as well

[latent vortex]

Unless like Mario Odyssey comes out

[zealous mason]

There's a Nintendo Direct coming this week!

https://youtu.be/NG8Ck9EIgjA?si=QYZZdA98djsZSqhf&t=265

[untold flame]

All im hearing is silksong oct-nov

[rapid dawn]

I'm already buying Switch 2 early on its release cycle because I need a replacement for my Switch OLED for a "high end way to play Switch games"

At this point I'd consider any potential good Switch 2 game a bonus.

[leaden kiln]

You ain't lying and plus it's backwards compatibility with switch 1 games who need that boost upgrades from visual , frame rate

[proper bear]

Yeah man. It's like a no-brainer

[winter pecan]

yeah but you'll lose OLED

[unkempt beacon]

If mario kart 9 is a launch title I'll be set until holidays haha I love mk8

[untold flame]

im seeing great deals on switches

still holding out for above 20 fps gameplay

and hopefully we are blessed with rcm jig round 2

[unkempt beacon]

I hope ckrd come out with a nitro deck 2 sooner than later after launch

[stuck viper]

Feels like one of those rumors that basically say nothing

There's no way that Sega, Capcom, and Ubisoft doesn't have dev kits yet

[rapid pollen]

I think my plan is to get a switch 2 and just keep it docked to play my switch library in higher fidelity & fps on my TV while my switch OLED gets relegated to strictly handheld status to make better consistent use of that display

[untold flame]

i'll trade up if theres no rcm jig

[rapid pollen]

I don't know what those letters mean

[proper bear]

Maybe? Nintendo pretty notorious for slow rolling 3rd party dev

[untold flame]

notorious hack for early switches

that made them easily moddable by touching two contacts that were cleanly visible togethger

to trigger recovery mode

[proper bear]

Have one on my launch switch

[unkempt beacon]

I am sure third party studios have some kits already

[untold flame]

silk song????

[stuck viper]

Sure but nintendos gonna want some kind of third party present on switch 2 launch. They even had a couple third party games with the first switch at launch although it wasn't a lot

[untold flame]

i think imma just go on ebay and buy a banned v1 switch

i aint paying those bums anyway

for online

im buying the games obv

if i wasnt buying i'd emulate

sd8 gen 3 does 4k smash ultimate spectacularly!

you wouldnt believe it

[unkempt beacon]

the switch had third party games at launch so I find that "rumor" already to be meh

[stuck viper]

Also Sega, Capcom, and Ubisoft have been 2nd parties working with nintendos IPs in the past.

Mario & Sonic, Zelda Minish Cap, Mario + Rabbids

So I feel like they'd get priority on early kits

Same with Bandai namco since they literally do smash

[unkempt beacon]

the only rumor I really want to happen is hall effect sticks

[heady snow]

Dual screen attachment

[unkempt beacon]

no need for that on a

is it 7 inches or 8?

[heady snow]

Why would there be no need

[stuck viper]

That attachment would be $200

[unkempt beacon]

its just gonna be something companies won't want to work with when its gonna be in a dock probably for half the people using

[heady snow]

Im still buying it 🐈

[stuck viper]

8 inches

[unkempt beacon]

plus that thing sounds like it would just get heavier in handheld

[heady snow]

Can't be that heavy

[unkempt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-nervous-anime-sweat-sweating-nervous-sweating-gif-8464066390113296650

[heady snow]

The original switch is less than a pound

[stuck viper]

If I remember nintendo has a patent for something that's basically the similar result of hall effect joy sticks

[unkempt beacon]

I just hope they don't try a 1-2 switch game again lol

[heady snow]

Arm handhelds are lighter usually

[untold flame]

BETRAYAL!!!!!!!

[stuck viper]

Wish they would do a Nintendo Land 2, or another Clubhouse Games

[untold flame]

sold out to nintendo

[stuck viper]

As the launch casual game

[unkempt beacon]

I just want some banger launch games

[heady snow]

I want mh4u and mh3u port

[unkempt beacon]

probably won't happen but I hope metroid 4 becomes a launch title

[stuck viper]

Hope we get multiple games not just mario kart 9

[heady snow]

You're getting breath of the wild remaster

[stuck viper]

Yeah I wonder what's the deal with metroid prime 4 and pokemon legends

When it comes to switch 2

[unkempt beacon]

splatoon 4 better run butter smooth whenever they announce that

[stuck viper]

I think we'll get the next animal crossing before the next splatoon

[unkempt beacon]

im down with that

better give us multiplayer island sharing though!

[heady snow]

If I buy a v1 switch 2, there's a greater chance I can mod it

[stuck viper]

I hope they take feedback from new horizons

[untold flame]

not that

the ds attaachment

im doing the same with the v1

[stuck viper]

Game was basically incomplete at launch compared to what was in New Leaf

[heady snow]

It's probably not happening tbh

[untold flame]

even theorizing about purchasing it is betrayal to the party

mods!

seize him!

[heady snow]

Sean's not here

[leaden kiln]

Yh but oled is like second chance someone who never own switch I rather get the switch 2 lcd

[leaden kiln]

Switch heavy that one will be light like plate

[leaden kiln]

True but switch 1 games is enough especially we are talking about boost the visuals , frame rate and upgrades

[fallen herald]

Feel like getting one near launch and keeping it offline after getting the necessary updates/DLCs for switch 1 games.
Best chance of having a potential software moddable unit.

[untold flame]

I'll stick with switch 1 games

Hard switch 1 carts mean 100 compatibility

Or I only play launch titles

Then I won't need to update to play a game

But what will I even do with a mod?

I'm not pirating

Literally anything else will play emulation better

[rapid dawn]

I "lost OLED" already when my OLED Switch broke out of a sudden and I had to go back to my OG Switch. Although the change was sad, you get used to it and it's not like the Switch 2's screen is going to be bad.

[heady snow]

Downgrading the screen type for a handheld console sequel is pretty lame ngl

It'd be like if they made a steam deck 2 and it wasn't oled

[proper bear]

Yeah. But the LCD is still gonna be light-years greater than the og switches

Even just buying handhelds over the years they've gotten pretty solid

Nintendo is all about tried and tested hardware. It's what gets their prices low and their hardware pretty amazingly consistent and failure free

It makes sense they'd look at implementing something like vrr and the OLED artifacts it brings, and want to hold off until it's more ironed out (if that's even solvable)

[unkempt beacon]

I don't think anyone should be surprised that Nintendo aren't launching with a oled screen at this point

They make more money doing it this way

I just want more stable games

I don't want to worry about fps drops and would love 1080p handheld mode

[leaden kiln]

Everyone knows that companies do this

[proper bear]

I just want stable games, affordable solid hardware. And some fun exclusives. And we know we'll get those

And sure I'll buy the OLED when it drops, and it'll also be somewhat affordable because it's behind the curve. And then I'll replay everything again 😆

[leaden kiln]

I'm most excited how they improve their first party games or create a new exclusive games

Then upgrade from switch 1 games

And third party games

[proper bear]

Yeah. Would be cool to get a new IP out of it. Or even a really old one refreshed

[ember perch]

Everyone always puts the extra screen on top in these mockups but I'd rather a slightly smaller screen underneath, otherwise it's going to be top heavy and uncomfortable

[heady snow]

Well then it'd would just get in your way

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1904896619935412473?t=5BZ2EHSaqZrtes-kwOJItw&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Nintendo Direct confirmed for tomorrow, March 27 at 7 AM PT. 30 minutes featuring upcoming games for Switch.

No updates about Switch 2 during presentation

https://t.co/Lb4fY9aXd0

X · Mar 26, 2025, 2:02 PM

[heady snow]

Monster Hunter 3u and 4u port, Mhworld port, Mhwilds port, bloodborne 60 fps port, Demon Soul's original port, Armored Core 6 Port, Dark souls 2 non sotfs port, Dark soul 3, Armored Core 1-5 Port including last raven, Uncharted 1-3 port, Gears of War 2 and 3 port. Halo Master Chief Collection, Fable 2 and 3

[leaden kiln]

😭😭😭

[round sparrow]

I can't imagine there'll be too many big announcements in this direct

[tidal tree]

Maybe some prime 4 infos

[round sparrow]

that's likely gonna be the most exciting thing, outside of maybe a 3DS port/remaster

the rest will likely just be lower spec third party games

get ready to take a shot every time you see a farming life sim

[proper bear]

I dunno. Maybe some accessory announcements

I'm still hopeful the magnetic attachments will get done cool options besides just joycons

[tawny halo]

Come on Wind Waker HD!!!!

It has to be now! Please!

[round sparrow]

I really don't think there'll be anything to get too excited by at this direct

all the juicy stuff is likely to be shown off next week when they show off the switch 2

[leaden kiln]

🙏🏾

[tidal tree]

Id rather have them focus on a new game then another remaster tbh Its not hard to get a old wii or download dolphin and play it that way

[proper bear]

I wouldn't mind a remake tho

A link between worlds was pretty fun

[tidal tree]

Yea would be fun but i dunno

[proper bear]

It's basically a brand new game at that point tho. With just similarities here and there

[latent vortex]

Minish cap sequel!

[torn wraith]

What are we getting tomorrow? No switch 2 games but more of Metroid 4? What else are they cooking?

[round sparrow]

all we know is that it's nothing about the switch 2

[odd scaffold]

Usually the remakes/remasters are handled by other teams while their primary devs are working on the next mainline thing

Link Between Worlds isn't a remake though. If anything it's more like TotK, it uses the same overworld map and modifies it a lot but everything else is new.

WWHD would be nice because yes you can play the original on Dolphin, but HD has improvements over the original and is harder to emulate. Original does have a patch for some improvements but it's not exactly the same

I just hope if they do re-release WWHD that there's an option to take the WWHD stank off of it. Not a fan of the intense bloom lol

[heady snow]

https://www.gamereactor.es/capcom-sobre-monster-hunter-wilds-para-nintendo-switch-2-necesitamos-aprender-como-sacarle-el-maximo-partido-1337563/ I'm injecting the hopium straight into my bloodstream

[untold flame]

I'm providing

[south notch]

I'll join you in this

I just want to play Wilds portably without needing a damn super computer

[waxen basalt]

Do you think it'll be oled? If it wont I will not be likely to be interested

[rapid dawn]

It's probably not OLED

[waxen basalt]

yeah thought so

they wanna be cheepo with the 1st models

[proper bear]

Well or get vrr to work with no visual hiccups

[waxen basalt]

I mean just look at switch v1

bad battery life, HUGE bezels, lcd screen

[torn wraith]

After today's Nintendo's Direct, I'm not sure if they know what they're doing. An App for Nintendo??

[waxen basalt]

oh wait, the direct already happened?

I'll check it out

[proper bear]

As someone with kids with their own accounts, virtual game cards is awesome

[round sparrow]

it's about what I expected, mostly third party games.

saying that, I'm excited for rhythm heaven and tomodachi life

[spark birch]

So, what do ya think the chances are that next week they'll announce a Switch 2 Lite releasing alongside the full sized Switch 2 and not make the people who don't want a gargantuan boat of a handheld wait 2 years for a Lite version this time?

[heady snow]

Make the switch 2 lite a clam

It's crazy to me though that the switch 2 is going to be bigger than a fair chunk of pc handhelds

[spark birch]

Between the bigger size of the Switch 2 and undoubtedly higher price tag it seems like a Lite version should be almost guaranteed, it's just kind of a question of when it's coming at this point. I know I'll be holding off on buying a Switch 2 until the Lite version comes out, I just hope it's sooner rather than later!

[round sparrow]

they're not gonna overcomplicate their SKUs this early on

I can't see it

[waxen basalt]

omg naaahh

nintendo is doing tiktok now?

[round sparrow]

it's a news feed app afaik

[heady snow]

A small relatively pocketable arm handheld that could play new games is going to be amazing

[waxen basalt]

if nintendo makes a 6.2 inch switch 2 clamshell I am so fucking in

I wouldn't care what anybody says

[heady snow]

I dont disagree but why 6.2 inch in particular

[waxen basalt]

7 inch is kinda pushing it but 6.2 inch clamshells can definitely be pocketable

[spark birch]

I just want the same form factor and size of the Switch Lite with the new Switch 2 processor and hall sensor sticks. My desires are simple lol

Maybe inset the D-pad a little if they're feeling generous.

[round sparrow]

I'm sure a switch 2 lite will happen

but not within the first year or two

[proper bear]

And they've done similar things on previous launches and then shuts them down after a bit. Not that they'll shut this down. But they do all kinds of stuff around launches

[spark birch]

Guess I'll just hurry up and wait then XD

[proper bear]

Yeah. Lite with the hardware would be dope

[heady snow]

I kind of get the feeling the app is going to die once the switch 2 is fully released

[round sparrow]

the lite doesn't appeal to me personally, because I like the whole switching aspect of the switch

I played my switch 1 like 60% docked

[proper bear]

Yeah. That wouldn't shock me. And honestly that's fine. Probably let's them do more too than relying on other social media platforms

Honestly if it notifies me for directs I can watch I'll keep it. Lol

[proper bear]

Can the switch 1 lite not dock?

[round sparrow]

nope, it's handheld mode only

[heady snow]

Not officially but there's workarounds iirc

Honestly the switch lite is such an underrated deal

They go for real cheap on ebay

[torn wraith]

What's a workaround other than mod? Because it is diffecult to mod the lite switch

[heady snow]

I'm not sure tbh, I think you have to jailbreak it at minimum

[proper bear]

Ah. That's wild. I just have a launch LCD and OLED

Would probably get lites for kids tho

Them being able to share virtual cartridges is awesome

Having to have a primary device that only allows access to all accounts is annoying

[untold flame]

6.3 inch 1440p OLED

Aka

Super sp

[rapid dawn]

https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3lles54qmv527
So I guess you are not getting performance improvements in Switch 1 games without paying for them again, that's great.

Wario64 (@wario64.bsky.social)

Virtual Game Cards page from Nintendo

Also makes a mention of "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games" in the fine print
www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-sy...

Bluesky · Mar 27, 2025, 5:10 PM

[leaden kiln]

It depends on what games actually need it the most

Wish it can be every switch 1 games

[untold flame]

If it at least gets to the perf targets that the switch 1 couldn't meet I'll be happy

[stuck viper]

honestly i wouldnt be so sure

if the rumors are true third parties are getting to choose how to handle switch 2 editions whether its free, an upgrade fee

or full price

doesn't necessarily say one way or another of what nintendo is planning

the fact nintendo is even allowing digital game sharing feels like an act of good faith and is a weirdly pro consumer move from ninten

[heady snow]

"Nintendo switch 2 edition games" damn it nintendo

Actually

They could just be trying to prevent people from complaining they can't use xbox or ps5 third party games on the switch 2

[stuck viper]

id wait for the direct next week

well know everything by then

[heady snow]

Switch 2 clamshell announcement

[stuck viper]

my guess with switch 2 "performance boost" on Switch 1 games will either cost a dlc fee ($10?), or you get them for free with the NSO expansion pass

[heady snow]

I'm thinking it's going to retail at $400

[stuck viper]

400 makes sense

anything more is insane

[round sparrow]

450 at the high end

[heady snow]

Oled edition maybe

[untold flame]

That's why you buy at launch, and keep it under lock and key till a hack releases

[compact sable]

Which will likely be years away

[round sparrow]

The first switch was hacked pretty quickly I believe

[untold flame]

but they had the holy grail of shitty design

shitty security anyway

android drivers

android recovery

rcm jig

[heady snow]

I think the switch 2 will take longer

[round sparrow]

it's always unpredictable with new hardware what vulnerabilities it'll have

[compact sable]

Only because of the Nvidia backdoor

Without that it probably still wouldn’t be hacked

[proper bear]

I dunno. Most Nintendo consoles get a jailbreak at some point

[round sparrow]

I also wonder if finding that early jail break on early units killed some of the impetus to find any further exploits

[proper bear]

Def possible. Tho I think the OLED reopened that desire

[compact sable]

I think it only accelerated it.

Security is a lot more than it was for older consoles now. The only way hackers got the bootloader files and such was because of the Nvidia snafu on the OG and that enabled hardware mods.

[untold flame]

And just like the 3ds the other ones haven't been revealed yet

[high barn]

Yeah, and yet sometimes you could also have hardware like the Xbox360 that still doesn’t have any form of permanent way to run custom firmware via a soft mod, only a patchwork solution that is significantly worse than hard mods.

[tawny halo]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHvt-aJNRJT/?igsh=eHlhYnMzYnJ2MG53

skullnco

Our breakthrough SWITMOUSE accessory:
• Converts Switch 2 Joy-Cons to a comfortable mouse
• Retains all original buttons

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Skull and Co have made an actual mouse accessory

[rapid dawn]

There's really low interest for looking for 360 vulns or perhaps even revealing them to the wild since dev mode is available anyway.

We don't really know what will happen with the Switch 2. But I sure hope it gets pwned. Otherwise we can always try getting the EU to mandate alt stores and sideloading have to be available.

[tawny halo]

https://x.com/dexerto/status/1905701104559792430?s=46&t=W6WfgknjfK4-AMAr6C71lA

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

Nintendo Switch 2 is reportedly launching June 2025

Preorders are expected to go live April 9

(via: Insider Gaming)

X · Mar 28, 2025, 7:18 PM

[heady snow]

Switch 2 lite clamshell is coming

[proper bear]

Do kinda like the more rounded shape

Like river stones

[compact sable]

Yeah it has that indoor misting machine look to it

[serene plank]

I was very disappointed with the performance of most Switch ports, especially Doom, Sifu, Witcher and Nier Automata that I ended up not playing them at all. I really don’t mind simple graphics, but when the FPS are low then it really takes the fun out of „pick up and play“ for me. If Nintendo promises backwards compatibility with improved performance (unstable FPS and dynamic resolution should improve without changing the code, right?) then it’s an instand buy for me. I have so many unfinished games on my Switch 1…

[proper bear]

Think that was more a product of it being one of the first handheld consoles. Sounds like power wise this will be way more mainstream. Something 3rd parties might not hesitate to build towards. The fact that it sounds like they're launching with some 3rd party ports out the gate is at least promising. Switch 1 was more of a, if we build it maybe they'll come experiment. It just has had older hardware for a loooooong time

[open osprey]

Yeah the Switch definitely felt like a

"Lets see if this works"

And now they're actually refining it after it's bombastic success

Becoming the best selling console yet

[torn wraith]

Yeah, they made it bigger. I would have hoped for around the same size but with better grips

[proper bear]

Def feel like they could have kept it smaller and still thrown in a larger screen. But I'm sure it'll be fine

[heady snow]

https://wccftech.com/nintendo-switch-2-joy-con-c-button-second-screen/ If this is true then the chances of nintendo making a dual screen attachment are even smaller than they already are

[latent vortex]

this is highly unlikely

nintendo has done some dumb shit but

making features that require the previous console would take the cake for stupid

because either they have to continue to sell the old models, or just accept that only a percentage of buyers will be able to use that feature

highly more likely is they use the switch 2 tablet like the wiiu tablet and just stream to your smart tv

[novel crystal]

in fairness the switch is the second most sold nintendo devise I think

[latent vortex]

yeah theres a lot of them out there but making a feature that required a whole ass second console would be just really really dumb

[novel crystal]

well I think the gamecube had something similar

oh wait no I think that worked differently 🤔

[latent vortex]

gamecube let you use your gba as a controller and play your gba games on it

the above implies that to play certain games you would NEED the old switch

a totally different thing

one is optional, the other is a requirement

[novel crystal]

the switch 2 has backwards compatability I think

[latent vortex]

that really has no bearing on the above articles supposed leak of using the old switch as a second screen for the switch 2

[novel crystal]

that would just imply display out I think?

[unkempt beacon]

The leaks just keep getting better 😭

[latent vortex]

ill say again since it got buried in ....., this leak is highly unlikely to be correct
its far more likely to use the tablet and stream to a smart tv, since everyone has those and wouldnt require purchasing the old switch

even the comments on the article are calling it bs

[untold flame]

And you know it's real when the comments are saying that

The comments on any article are the most braindead stupid people ever known to mankind

So if they can realize it's fake

It's fake

[heady snow]

I could still see some sort of screencasting feature in the switch 2 just not like this, or they could just use a wired connection

I'm not sure why their first assumption was that it would use the original switch lol

[unkempt beacon]

I mean better in the sense that they are reaching

Requiring a switch 1 screen for a switch 2 feature is bizarre

[rapid dawn]

Unless the Dock is a lot more sophisticated than it currently is, this also sounds pretty unlikely.

[latent vortex]

dont need a dock to stream to a smart tv

[rapid dawn]

A smart TV can be a big ask in JP

[latent vortex]

sounds like a them problem

[rapid dawn]

There have been Switch 1 games that could use multiple Switch Tablets to work. I am pretty sure they will try to expand on that, but most likely will never be intended as a "core" feature.

[latent vortex]

it definitely seems like theres mroe to the dock for switch 2 than before at any rate so it could easily handle streaming if they put that in there

[unkempt beacon]

The real question is will they be launching some new amiibos with switch 2!

[proper bear]

Sounds like my dream. I hate smart tvs

Underpowered chips. Not enough ram. Horrible thermals. And they usually turn into lag city a year later

Just give me a dumb TV. Knock the price down. And let me plug in a shield TV/AppleTV

[unkempt beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[untold flame]

I don't want it then. Moonlight is horrible on a smart TV because the chip is too weak to decode fast

I want a properietary protocol to minimize lag

And whatever a smart TV can do won't do it

Like 2.4 GHz or whatever

[rapid pollen]

Shield TV work?

[untold flame]

Idk

[proper bear]

i have one, i should try

got an apple tv too, which i think people have sideloaded it onto

but yeah, i'd die for TVs to be dumb again, and Nvidia to release a goddamn new streaming box

who knows, maybe SteamOS boxes will be a thing in the near future

as long as it has a normie launch pad for the normies in the house, I'd just replace all my streaming boxes with em

[versed lion]

pretty sure that C button feature is for families with like 3-4 switches. Means they can buy one and then little jimmy can stream his switch 2 game to his battered old switch lite

[rapid dawn]

That doesn´t sound practical. Like, you could just lend the Switch 2 to Jimmy

It's not like you are going to be able to stream a game to Jimmy while playing something else on the Switch 2.

[versed lion]

Stream off the Switch 2 to the Switch Lite while you watch TV in the main room and little Jimmy wants to play Switch

[rapid dawn]

Why not lend him the switch 2

[untold flame]

There's no way they restrict features to old products

[untold flame]

Just give them the switch 2?

What is the problem here

[clever geyser]

The reveal Wednesday?? I’m back on the hype train

[rapid dawn]

April 2nd

[torn wraith]

is anyone else waiting for lite? or just buy and then wait for some form of jailbreak?

[proper bear]

Buy and wait for jailbreak. I have enough backlog of titles that should just run better

[open osprey]

This

I rather buy and wait for a jailbreak that will allow me more room for performance

[clever geyser]

That’s not guaranteed

[pine cove]

If only it was portable! /S.

[clever geyser]

You’d think their security would be cranked up on the switch 2

[pine cove]

The real use for the c button

[verbal wing]

Any price predictions?

I think this tariff nonsense will force them to start at $449 and everyone will lose their shit.

[rapid pollen]

still gonna say $399

[compact sable]

Yeah $399 or it’ll be $449 with a free game

[verbal wing]

$399 feels right for Nintendo, but if the economy gets weird, I can't see them raising the price after launch

Didn't the Lenovo Legion tablet just raise their MSRP after launch?

[compact sable]

Possibly, they initially said $499 but it’s listed at $549 at BestBuy. Not sure if a BestBuy tax or what

[round sparrow]

I wonder if they'll have seperate SKUs with more on-board storage, and charge $75 extra or something

[verbal wing]

I just want to know how much I'm spending on the official mouse pad.

[round sparrow]

I have the mario paint mousepad, I guess I could use that lol

[compact sable]

Doubt it. Nintendo doesn’t like to over complicate things

[round sparrow]

I remember they did it with the Wii U

[leaden kiln]

400 to 499

I love for them to get 400 price but more time we can see the price would be 450 to 499

[verbal wing]

What if switch 2 can boot into steam os and they release an official 8bitdo x Nintendo keyboard to go with your joycon mouse.

[odd scaffold]

sounds just like nintendo

[rapid pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gSD_NSKkvbg?

👀

[untold flame]

But hey, that's just a theory.

[compact sable]

I’d just want some sort of Moonlight variant lol

[unkempt beacon]

What if it's just a button to turn it into mouse mode

C for controls

[heady snow]

Okay so it's not just me

Feel like that's the most realistic outcome

[tidal tree]

Wont happen

[verbal wing]

Lol, I know.

[clever geyser]

Hopefully we’ll see alot of support for the mouse, strategy games, fps with joycon+mouse etc

[tidal tree]

Hopefully we'll see switch 3

And will we either see a new mario game or a new donkey kong game

[waxen basalt]

nah, I'm more excited for switch 4

[tidal tree]

nah man thats going to be a bad console it usually is like this at nintendo:
gamecube = bad console
wii = good console
wii u = bad console
switch = good console
switch 2 = bad console
switch 3 = good console

[waxen basalt]

Switch 5 it is then

[leaden kiln]

Nah switch 2 will be good but switch 3 will be rubbish

[tidal tree]

nah man look at my analysis

[leaden kiln]

Oh 😭😭😭😭

Lmaoooooo

[leaden kiln]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1907055526971584991?t=UZZjLZfLGrR4l8onGXyQSQ&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Nintendo Switch 2 Direct scheduled for tomorrow (April 2nd - 6 AM PT) is about 60 minutes long https://t.co/UM40MsQMJV

X · Apr 1, 2025, 1:00 PM

[proper bear]

I do appreciate them launching news at the beginning of the day. Instead of noon or evenings. Get to wake up to fun rather than work a full day in the mines first

[leaden kiln]

One thing I love about nintendo

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1907056953324417089?t=rm272Rg3BTl9ACDf4UebzQ&s=33

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

Nintendo Treehouse: Live | Nintendo Switch 2 announced for April 3-4 (7 AM PT) w/ hands-on gameplay of Nintendo Switch 2 games

X · Apr 1, 2025, 1:06 PM

This is E3 for them

Headshot of the year everyone

[torn wraith]

So.. just a live stream of games they will release for launch?

I don't know, I mean they want to build hype and all but I won't be watching it

[leaden kiln]

I mean it's their e3 style

https://x.com/Stealth40k/status/1907064141547807018?t=PNK5xzyP0xPm_yP2SbVPEA&s=33

Stealth (@Stealth40k) on X

The first day of Treehouse Live will be 4 hours long.

The second day of Treehouse Live will be 3 hours long.

This info comes from the Nintendo Today app.

X · Apr 1, 2025, 1:34 PM

[proper bear]

Feel like Nintendo is an older brother who bullied you 😆

[compact sable]

I wonder if this is going to be Switch 2 games we don’t know about, Switch 1 games we do know about that will also release as Switch 2 titles, or if it’ll be showing how Switch 1 stuff runs

[proper bear]

"2 days of Nintendo announcing release titles and new Switch 2 information... lame..."

[torn wraith]

Na. I don't care about about them showing them playing games. I will watch trailer tomorrow. I can see why they're doing it but I don't care for it

[leaden kiln]

Nah it's switch 2

[compact sable]

7 hours of gameplay for games not released yet sounds too hopeful lol

I hope to be wrong though

[leaden kiln]

But they could fuck it and add 1 or 2 switch 1 games for upscale games as well

Like demo

[proper bear]

Eh. At their switch 1 launch party they had like 8 playable games. In this case I think they'll def showcase some 1 games with new power

[compact sable]

The whole devkit thing worries me though about how many games will release with it that are true Switch 2 games

And not switch 1 holdovers with a 2 slapped on the box

[leaden kiln]

Well I mean nintendo want to see how many developers would support switch 2 now

And if the specs are correct you would expect third party devs to support switch 2 more than switch 1 era

[clever geyser]

2pm uk time ain’t bad

[leaden kiln]

Yep not too late like xbox or playstation

[proper bear]

Oh. I wasn't implying that I'd watch it live. It just gives my friends and I something to talk about during the day. And for other people to dissect

I just like the after convo, but don't wanna be up til midnight discussing it

[clever geyser]

I am a bit concerned about it being bigger, thought the og switch was already big enough

[leaden kiln]

I mean it's lighter it's not heavy

It depends on the person

I think 8 inch screen is amazing idea

[ebon oasis]

Is the only preorder info out there right now the Best Buy Canada stuff from last week?

[leaden kiln]

People are saying the pre order is April 9th

So the way nintendo is moving

[compact sable]

8” is ideal

Then have a smaller 5.5” or 6” variant

[leaden kiln]

I agree except if it's switch lite

[compact sable]

What’s the lite 5”?

[ebon oasis]

Really holding out hope for a Nintendo preorder for NSO members or something

Just to limit scalper availability

[compact sable]

You could easily go up .5” on the Lite in the same chassis

Does Nintendo do direct sales much anymore?

Also requiring NSO sucks because NSO sucks lol

[leaden kiln]

Like 5'5 but if they can do switch lite 2 at least 7 inch can be good

[proper bear]

If I do get another big handheld I'd want it to at least be steam deck OLED screen sized. The lite can always be smaller. it'd actually be cool if it was more of a differentiator anyway

[clever geyser]

I like the bigger screen for playing it with the joycons not attached too. Where has it been confirmed to be lighter?

[proper bear]

I think it's just a safe bet that it'll be light. Not necessarily lighter

Just looking at the photos I wouldn't be shocked if they went with a sturdy plastic or magnesium casing over metal to reduce weight and increase size.

More likely plastic. But if it's Nintendo plastic I'm fine with that

[leaden kiln]

Yhhh

[winter pecan]

looks like they finally decided to show it for real

bout time

can't wait for all the terrible takes

[tidal tree]

Treehouse is the best

I miss E3 so much

It was the best taking 3 days off of work and watch trailers from every company

[untold flame]

But the Wii u was good!

Man I wish I hadn't sold my Wii u

HDMI output

Nintendont

And the games looked so much better

720p is crazy

[tidal tree]

Yea i also really liked it but it sold poorly

[untold flame]

I can't wait for cemu to mature

[tidal tree]

Miiverse was fun af and mariokart 8 and the og splatoon were the most fun times i ever had

[untold flame]

I'm calling easy 2x round the board

1440p everywhere

Super SP fans rejoice!

[main tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DYB9TNB4/

On preorder and releasing tomarrow.

[heady snow]

$200⁉️⁉️⁉️

[main tiger]

New one of a kind stuff always starts expensive.

[heady snow]

Ig the read speed is pretty insane

[main tiger]

That's Express Card for ya

This is the first 1tb model for Express Card.

[heady snow]

Although I'm not even sure if the switch 2 will support read times that quick

[main tiger]

Switch 2 supports Express Card at that speeds.

That model advertises that is supports switch 2 as well.

[heady snow]

It also says it supports the steam deck though, and the SD card slot for that can only do 100 MB/s

[main tiger]

I guess we will find out when it comes out.

[heady snow]

Keep in mind the switch 1 only really supported 100 MB/s as well

This seems a bit overkill

[untold flame]

Well it supports the steam xekc

Just not at full speed

[heady snow]

It's pretty misleading

[leaden kiln]

Mannn it is going to be fun

[stark flicker]

They'll show Pokemon running on the new switch and it'll look and run exactly the same

[heady snow]

So glad I'm not a pokemon fan 🙏

[main tiger]

Rom hacks boi

[heady snow]

Aren't those basically like mods

[main tiger]

gba pokemon rom hacks is on it's own level. But switch hacks are just mods.

[proper bear]

I dunno if I ever completed one past base red. Lol

Story was always kinda meh. And the rest was mostly the same stuff

Blasphemy I know

[slow flint]

because switch 1 only support UHS-I cards. switch 2 is rumored to support Express, which is a (relatively) new standard

[heady snow]

Yeah, I just kind of find that hard to believe

[slow flint]

the thing is, anything between UHS-I and Express, like UHS-II, is very unpopular for micro sd

if anything, going straight to Express actually makes a lot of sense

and why do you think Lexar is even releasing this card and lining it up with the switch 2 release 😂

[heady snow]

Uh marketing

[slow flint]

they probably have insider info that we don't know

[heady snow]

Refer to the steam deck oled read and write speed if you will

[slow flint]

I think you're really missing the point

[heady snow]

Just because they say you can use it doesn't mean it's going to actually use that much speed

It banks on people wanting the best of the best, even when it's not necessary

[slow flint]

obviously nobody is getting this for their steam deck

unless they are seriously misinformed

[heady snow]

If it was officially licensed by Nintendo then maybe I'd believe it, but for now to me just seems like a common marketing tactic

[slow flint]

I mean if switch 2 does support the Express standard then it will take advantage of the speed 100%

[heady snow]

Well I mean yeah

[slow flint]

like... the logic is quite simple. it would definitely not be UHS-I. because it would literally be a deal breaker and a bottleneck for game devs. and anything between UHS-I and Express is not really an option for them just because how unpopular they are. so I'd say Express makes a lot of sense

and Express is not THAT new. the standard was established years ago. I know you are doubting whether Nintendo would be using new tech but in this case I do think it is quite possible

they might even make switch 2 games to only run on express cards (and internal storage)

sony is doing the same thing with ps4/ps5 games on hdd/ssd

[stark flicker]

I strongly doubt switch will use express. People overestimate how much read bandwidth games use these days. Even ratchet and clank rift apart at 4k runs fine on SATA.

[heady snow]

Yeah I'm not so sure about that, Nintendo has somewhat of a reputation of being more budget friendly, and needing the a more expensive sd card type to play games on would definitely piss people off

[slow flint]

even sata ssd is much faster than UHS-I cards tho

I'm not saying express-level speed is necessary. just that UHS-I would be a problem

[heady snow]

It's going to vary game to game, but aside from loading times games on SD cards usually don't play as badly as you'd think

[stark flicker]

It won't be. It'll be a way bigger problem forcing people into a nascent format. Nascent in terms of availability not spec

[heady snow]

This is a pretty good comparison
https://youtu.be/A-zUZJ4mHUU

[stark flicker]

If they wanted to provide faster expandable storage, it makes way more sense for m2 expansion than microsd express. You can even do it in a way that doesn't require opening the console like some Asus tablets

[slow flint]

I think when switch 2 has enough exclusive games to fill the 256gb internal storage, express cards will come down in price significantly.

[heady snow]

Couldn't you also then say uhs 2 would become more common if they opted to go with that

Nintendo could license their own official uhs 2 cards then

[slow flint]

uhs-ii is pretty much abandoned tech for micro sd tho...

[heady snow]

Wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has used old hardware, regardless we'll find out tomorrow

It would be sick if they did use express

[slow flint]

well yeah. I just don't believe the rumour was coming out of nowhere

[proper bear]

Nintendo rarely uses the most current technology in any hardware release

I'll just wait for actual numbers

[slow flint]

and Lexar releasing this now pretty much confirms it for me

barely any other devices outside usb card-readers support express cards. Lexar not only is releasing it (1tb even, when Sandisk only have 256gb ones) but also undercutting Sandisk on the price. I would have to suspect they know something we don't

[torn wraith]

do you think nintendo will rather do $499 because of tarrifs.

They prob have a first batch of stuff already in warehouse but also, they prob don’t want to raise prices after a year down when tariffs are biting them hard

[proper bear]

Under $800 is still exempt

A lot of freight isn't covered

So it's hard to know if it'll even effect them

Well and they're in Japan

[clever geyser]

New f zero game preview this week

[proper bear]

Also tarrifs bite us. Not them or anyone else really

Usually Nintendo has worldwide set prices. I doubt there will be any increase to that base price cause of tarrifs

[stark flicker]

Huh? Ninty will pay the tariffs when they enter the US in the future.

How much they pass onto consumer remains to be seen

But I certainly expect prices to increase by Christmas at least

[stark flicker]

A truckload of switches doesn't fall under "under $800".

[proper bear]

Yeah. It's hard to say. Some are also made in Vietnam. It also just depends on the country of final assembly before it enters the US. But it definitely might

Foxconn could route most through Taiwan as well. I'm sure Apple is talking to them about it

Tarrifs so dumb in a global market

Is wild to think that buying a switch of AliExpress might be cheaper than buying one from any store here 😆

Or taobao

At least we'll know and have a way around it

[slow flint]

playasia will probably have it too if the price gap is huge

[stark flicker]

Many things are cheaper to import as individual pieces... Until you need to exercise the warranty

[proper bear]

True

Guess you could buy from a EU/UK vendor too

[torn wraith]

I can totally seem them doing $499

Also, under $800 exceptions is for Aliexpress items bought using usps and other mail

[proper bear]

Well. It's for any small purchase.

They also tend not to go through freight

That's how 4px usually gets around it

It just takes longer

The exception being here that it wouldn't be mixed freight. It'll be giant pallets of switches only

[heady snow]

$500 would be insane, they would kill their sales. It's pretty easy nowadays to get a series x or ps5 for under that

[proper bear]

Yeah. Id guess $400 max without tarrifs

I still think $350. But I know some people bawk at that

[torn wraith]

$400 without tariffs or they could just gamble and then hope tariffs don’t stay too long

[heady snow]

I think $400 is most likely tbh, it would still leave room for a potential oled upgrade priced slightly higher, and nintendo almost never lowers the price of their first party games so they're going to make bank on those.

[untold flame]

I am no longer bound by the quality of emeral

You might even say I'm unbound

[proper bear]

Probably true. My theory is based off SNES, N64 and GC being $200. Wii being $250. Wii U and Switch being $300. OLED $350. So 400 would work. I just appreciate their slow roll. Possibly sticking with IPS to drop another $350

[pine cove]

Crazy hyped for tomorrow

[heady snow]

Switch 2 $400 and Switch 2 Lite SP at $300, comes with the monster hunter anniversary collection

And dark souls 3 remaster

[proper bear]

Yeah. I'm probably wrong

Switch 2 $350. Switch 2 lite $300. Switch 2 OLED $400. Would be dope

[heady snow]

That'd be a nice range imo

What if they start charging $70 for AAA games

[proper bear]

I just feel like OLED over $400 might be a hard sell. Nintendo likes to make sales a no-brainer

I mean I'd be ok with that honestly

I also don't buy like every game or games constantly

[unkempt beacon]

I expect 400 for the switch 2 I don't see them doing a lite or oled for launch

Maybe like a bundle aswell could be shown

[proper bear]

Can pretty much fill a years backlog of games with black Friday bogo

[unkempt beacon]

I want to see the next pro controller

[pine cove]

Tbh, especially for Nintendo games that's an easy sell for me. High quality shit

[heady snow]

I hope the accessories go crazy

[leaden kiln]

Switch 2 would be 400

[heady snow]

Just wish they'd go on sale more often at least on pc if you wait usually you get a pretty good discount

[leaden kiln]

I mean it's nintendo you play it offline

[proper bear]

I mean I know we feel like everything premium-ish should be $400+ but we're almost addicts and guaranteed spend too much money on this shit. For the average person who already has 2 or 3 switch ones that's a harder adoption

[pine cove]

Fwiw, if you go physical it means they keep decent resell/trade in value too

[proper bear]

In the long run it's the one system I don't mind them raising game prices on exactly because of this

[heady snow]

Ig I didn't think of that actually

[proper bear]

That does suck for people who live for the bargain bin games tho. Def have friends who wait til stuff hits like $5

As far as first party titles go, even at $70, you def get your money's worth of quality game entertainment

[heady snow]

That's basically how I do it lol, I have so many games in my backlog so the only times I pay full price are for games I know I'm going to enjoy

Probably going to buy the new doom game for full price

[leaden kiln]

I would say two console that it is fine with offine play is Nintendo and Playstation

Xbox yh forget about physical media

[heady snow]

For sure, I'm interested where they're going to take the next xbox, seeing as it's rumored to basically be a prebuilt pc

[compact sable]

Honestly, anything south of like 450 isn’t going to be difficult to get people to buy

The person who has a single switch and gets it for major releases might be a tougher sell if there isn’t a crazy day 1 offering

But people 2 or 3 are probably instant buys

[proper bear]

Not difficult to get us to buy. But they want to sell a hundred million of theses

A bunch of kids with switch lites in the same house who want the switch 2

Gonna be slow sales if it's too expensive

[high barn]

Plus all these companies had to have been looking at what happened with the PS5 Pro.

Switch 2 or Switch Pro, Nintendo has to know it’s gonna be a hard sell if they make it a good bit more than $100 above buying a new Switch, much less $100 more than the OLED Switch.

[compact sable]

$50 over an OLED though if the current 399 rumors stick

[high barn]

Exactly, hence why I’m doubtful of specifically it being anything over $400.

[proper bear]

Especially if they release titles for switch 1 still

Yeah. It'll be $400.

I mean shit at $450 ill sit it out til holiday bundles XD

[compact sable]

I can see $450 with a forced game bundle at launch. But 399 sounds most likely

What Id like to see to hurt scalping is 450 launch with forced game and 2 weeks later the 399 one launch. That way if the launch is scalped 2 weeks later it drops $50 anyways that would cause some scalpers to not do it

[proper bear]

Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never really had an issue getting any of the switches at launch. Or the Wii U. Wii was the last time I had to hunt. But online shopping back then was like non-existent

I do end up using a watcher or something if I miss the initial drop, and usually some cancels pop back up

[leaden kiln]

I would say that nintendo need to discount switch oled , og switch and switch lite

Massive

[proper bear]

I imagine one of those models, probably the OG, will likely just be discontinued

[leaden kiln]

That one is 699 or 800 if you want blu ray disc drive media

[proper bear]

Are those even available yet? Or are people still scalping them?

I never really paid attention

[leaden kiln]

It's available but no one would buy it It's waste of money

[proper bear]

Big true

What a wild release. Sony was smokin some heavy shit on that one

[leaden kiln]

Better bet is to buy ps5 with blu Ray edition or ps5 slim version

[winter pecan]

very available, not even scalpers want them

[pine cove]

I mean like

[proper bear]

Yeah. I just remember on launch they ran out of stock and it took a while

[leaden kiln]

Don't get me wrong it's not bad as ps5 pro you cam get good boost but like xbox series x even tho no games that console is powerhouse

I'm more impressed with series s power and its so quiet as well

[proper bear]

I mean I did buy a 60GB PS3 at launch. So I guess I can't really talk

[leaden kiln]

But at least they had good reason like backwards compatibility, blu Ray

Super computer

Ps5 pro is like

Idk what the benefits of ps5 pro

[proper bear]

Yeah. There was differentiating tech back then. Everything's kinda gone homogeneous. Which is why I'm hoping Nintendo has some kind of trick up its sleeve

[leaden kiln]

Switch 2 would be having ps4 level on arm device and having nvidia like potential dlss is enough for me

And battery life

Or the mouse

[proper bear]

Mouse is kinda cool. Like I like those things

It's been a while since I've owned and Xbox and PS just cause they seem so same same to me

[leaden kiln]

And little things that nintendo does is so interesting to me

[leaden kiln]

More like pc but in console

[red shoal]

Only about 9 hours left until the big reveal

[ember perch]

It's already lunch time on April 2 for me, where Switch 2 at

[main otter]

Just a few more hours! https://www.youtube.com/live/DXUmjX7DsP8?si=ufjeUKEgwSRDLP1Y

[tawny halo]

https://tenor.com/view/reggie-my-body-is-ready-nintendo-reggie-nintendo-gif-21453494

And my wallet 😅

[verbal wing]

Same same

Anything over $499 and I might wait to buy. My gut says $449.

[tawny halo]

Remember games and accessories will be on top 🤣 i am planning on spending a lot haha

[clever geyser]

Hype!

[round sparrow]

I miss Reggie

Doug Bowser doesn't hit the same

[open osprey]

Imma say 399. At the end of the day, Nintendo makes the money from the games, not the consoles

So they can sell it at a loss

[round sparrow]

I believe they've been selling their consoles at a profit since the Wii

Basically the only company not to do the loss leader model for selling their consoles

[tawny halo]

As much as i hate the pro controller, it will likely be the first for a while with whatever new fad nintendo introduces. So will likely be a day 1 buy also

[verbal wing]

I hope it's $399, but the world and industry are way different now.

$399, in my opinion, indicates that they want to aggressiely move units. $449-$499, in my opinion, indicates that they don't care how fast it sells. You'll buy one eventually and they can discount/bundle as-needed when the economy settles down. In the meantime, they'll encourage you to play your Switch 1, or buy a Switch 1... as indicated by their recent Direct, they plan to support it.

Believe me, I want $399. 🙂

[stark flicker]

They have never sold consoles at a loss, and this is a second Gen follow up to possibly the most successful console of all time. They will feel no pressure to absorb any loss outside of some volatility due to tariffs

[verbal wing]

I think it'd be weird to have Switch OLED at $349 and Switch 2 at $399. $50 difference between generations might confuse buyers or belittle the value of buying up. **We know the value of OLED, but I don't think that's a common consumer buying point.

[pine cove]

https://x.com/FakePearBear/status/1907102155099504737

FAKE (@FakePearBear) on X

BREAKING : THE MYSTERY AROUND THE NINTENDO SWITCH 2'S "C" BUTTON HAS BEEN SOLVED!

THE "C" STANDS FOR "COPYRIGHT" WHENEVER YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT INFRINGES ON NINTENDO'S COPYRIGHT, YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT IMMEDIATELY ALERTS NINTENDO LAWYERS 🚨 #GAMING #SWITCH2

X · Apr 1, 2025, 4:06 PM

[round sparrow]

C is the clamshell button, you press it and it magically transforms into a clamshell device, defying physics

[leaden kiln]

1 HOUR TO GOOOOOO

1 HOUR TO GOOOOOI

[tawny halo]

https://tenor.com/view/europe-the-final-countdown-80s-music-new-years-eve-hair-band-gif-19757498

83,000 sat waiting on Nintendo stream 😅

Can’t wait to see that number when it goes live

[leaden kiln]

I know my American people are just waking up 🤣😭

[open osprey]

I've been up since 5am

my body hates me

[leaden kiln]

That's peak this I'm feeling when watching nba or nfl

[tawny halo]

2PM for us brits 😅 first time we havent had to wake up at like midnight for something handheld related 😅🤣

[leaden kiln]

THANK GOD

[pine cove]

What's everyone wishing for? I got 3d Mario on my list

[open osprey]

Either confirm launch title Mario Kart or new Zelda game in the works

and maybe show off a few NS2 edition games

[open ridge]

https://vxtwitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1907208022218158485?s=19

Daniel Ahmad (@[email protected])

The C stands for Copyright.

Pressing the button allows you to report any rom websites, fan games, or other copyright infringements directly to Nintendo so they can issue a cease & desist.

QRT: NinEverything
Nintendo has teased Switch 2's new C button ahead of the Direct tomorrow https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-direct-nintendo-switch-2-timing-confirmed/

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 1, 2025, 11:06 PM

[tawny halo]

This and a new F-Zero

[open osprey]

ALSO GIVE US THEMES BACK NINTENDO

[tawny halo]

Maybe a new starfox adventures

30 min mark

[open osprey]

I want my console UI to look fun, not bland damnit

I don't want a whole lot

[pine cove]

Jokes aside. It won't be at release at all, but a new punch out game id kill for

[open osprey]

YES

[tawny halo]

I just want the eshop not to lag

[open osprey]

I would

Love a new Punch Out

[pine cove]

The Wii one was fantastic

[open osprey]

Give us the Eshop of old back

Charming shopping themes and no lag

[tawny halo]

Scrolling in the eshop is dire