#Switch 2

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zealous saffron
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then cue lots of complaining when third party docks with way worse thermals roll out and people cook their devices

high barn
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You know the Switch 1 has active cooling right? It just isn’t all that great active cooling.

zealous saffron
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Fair, should’ve said weak vs strong cooling rather than passive vs active

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Adding a fan in the dock wouldn’t do much without any vents in the handheld anyway

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Unless they did the metal shell with bridge thing like a MacBook Air

tawny halo
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Motherboard has leaked

novel crystal
# tawny halo

wait but we knew the node for like 2 years at this point?

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we knew it was 8nm for ages

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also keep in mind oren has been done design wise for like 2 years

rapid pollen
boreal lintel
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"welp, it's over"

rapid dawn
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Some folks don't understand that Nintendo's strategy with the Switch 2 includes mass producing it and selling it to families.

edgy frost
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Didn't Nintendo go to a lower nm node with the OLED Switch ? Maybe they did the same for the Switch 2.
If I remember correctly the first X1 was on a 20nm node and OLED went to 16nm and the Orin CPU is custom made for the Switch 2 so maybe we see the same , either way this 8nm size is a manufactured non issue

high barn
# tawny halo

Ah, glad to see Shank is there to be the voice of reason.

novel crystal
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Like 2 years ago at least we knew about it being planned for 8nm

high barn
# tawny halo

Also, for anyone wondering, this is the comment Shank was replying to.
https://fxtwitter.com/BobWulff/status/1874340265890382153

high barn
south notch
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people have stupidly high expectations and refuse to take a step back and think

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my only hope was that Nvidia would make a more up to date Tegra SoC with maybe a super cut down RTX3050 core

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the Tegra SoC line has so much potential now it hurts me to see Nvidia just stick with the old ass maxwell core

high barn
south notch
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maybe an RTX3030 would be more likely

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I know it doesn't exist

novel crystal
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Nvidia is busy on other projects I think

south notch
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just overpaying senor employees to do next to nothing

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Nividia's workplace culture is a self destructive one that sooner or later is gonna collapse

novel crystal
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||sounds like capitalism|| 😅

south notch
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worse

silent otter
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Base on the leak whats the performance of switch 2 expected to be like? PS4?

high barn
south notch
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it just means devs need to actually optimize games

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I know it's generally more complicated than that but still

high barn
south notch
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they have some solid performance on the table to get some more demanding ports going, and potentially patching old bad ports to work better

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Outer worlds was so damn close

high barn
south notch
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I know for sure that CDPR is gonna patch Witcher 3 for switch 2 for better performance

novel stratus
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people saying ps4 level is bad are so insane

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fucking edin ring runs on ps4

silent otter
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Its funny that almost everything about the Switch 2 has been leaked. Nintendo really trying make that announcement as late as possible.

novel stratus
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no need tbh..

high barn
# novel stratus people saying ps4 level is bad are so insane

Unironically, I think this is the news that singlehandedly has made me legit excited for the Switch 2. The freaking confirmation that this thing does in fact have a chipset capable of PS4 level stuff (with the only thing left being to find out if there is an underclock that is active for Docked mode, or if it would only be present for Handheld Mode) is legit great, simply for the fact that there will now be legit incentive for everyone to make ports that run on PS4 levels of hardware, regardless of whether it’s ARM or X86.

latent vortex
sharp needle
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that's a meme right?

rapid pollen
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obviously fake af

south notch
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Using X for Windows Phone

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that alone is a total dead giveaway

high barn
zealous saffron
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You’re going to walk into bestbuy in 2025 and see 6 handhelds on the shelf, 5 will be tsmc 4nm and one will be an old Samsung phone node renowned for overheating

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Bob is being dumb and conflating wanting a modern process node with wanting a high power chip

zealous saffron
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I like bob but he’s no phawx

odd scaffold
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This is Furukawa. There will be no successor to the Nintendo Switch. Please consider buying a new Nintendo Switch OLED.

high barn
high barn
zealous saffron
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but 'it might be 5nm' isn't the same as the 'samsung 8nm is amazing' copium

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the snapdragon 888 is samsung 5nm isn't it?

high barn
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Especially considering he’s probably one of the only people that commented who did fully take into account the fact Nintendo is more likely than not gonna underclock the chipset for battery life and to counteract heat.

real imp
south notch
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That would be ludicrously expensive though

latent vortex
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People really want some ridiculous gimmick...

proper bear
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I love Nintendo's ridiculous gimmicks. Sometimes they pan out

prisma glen
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no way they'll repeat a feature like that

real imp
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🤷‍♂️

prisma raptor
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Man this channel became a whole-ass dumpster fire around Christmas, didn’t it? kek

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I’ve been ignoring Switch 2 news for a while but yeah I don’t know why dude was tripping about 8nm process node. Aren’t newer Intel CPU nodes at 7nm? They’re still fantastic for gaming performance so I think he just wanted to rain on somebody’s parade

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(Intel might be down to 4nm, tbh I stopped paying attention to them too because AMD has been such an insanely higher value proposition for years now)

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I’m honestly willing to bet (maybe purely on vibes but oh well) that when it launches it will actually be one of the more competent handhelds on the market, even if only by software/OS shenanigans as opposed to raw hardware power (that’s more-or-less how they squeezed what they have out of the original)

Process nodes always struck me as a number that engineers have been driving down for no other reason to pat themselves on their backs, anyway

edgy frost
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Whatever node its on I really don't care and really looking forward to the Switch 2 as long as Nintendo doesn't decide to do anything weird and it gives a nice performance bump to older Switch titles on the new Switch meaning a game meant to run at 30/60FPS play at those levels with no dips

blazing sleet
rapid dawn
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I wouldn't mind them just releasing a Mario Maker 2 DLC that's free for Switch 2 owners.

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just a single object would be more than enough rather than having to wait 3 years for Mario Maker 3

high barn
high barn
# high barn I mean, I agree with the concept, but I feel like it would also be hypocritical ...

Obviously there’s more nuance in the fact the Switch 2 could be $400 and that would still be a better upgrade deal (being only $50 more) versus getting a PS5 for $450-$500 when you can currently get a PS4 Pro (to play PS4 games) for only up to like $250 at most.

But I don’t anticipate most people would recognize that nuance before doing a 180 on the “Switch games count as Switch 2 games”.

blazing sleet
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I'd be looking at it as a bonus feature, I won't be buying one until it has enough switch 2 games I want.

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I use my switch mostly as a handheld though, so not sure I can be convinced by one until there's a switch 2 lite.

high barn
boreal lintel
proper bear
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Would be hella shocked if they didn't launch with OLED 😆

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It was rare back then but c'mon now

blazing sleet
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All the leaks have suggested 8" lcd not oled

proper bear
winter pecan
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that's Nintendo to ya

warped heath
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Mini led would be nice

rapid pollen
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not as nice as proper OLED or AMOLED

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but yeah the initial launch is almost definitely going to just be regular old IPS

rapid dawn
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As someone whose OLED switch died and was forced to return to LCD. OLED is nice and a definitive improvement, but you can live without it.

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If the OLED is the difference between 400 USD and 450 USD MSRB, it's a sensible choice.

proper bear
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Yeah. For sure. Sell for long enough for the other components to drop in price, then upgrade and keep the price the same

heavy zodiac
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Any speculations when it would be announced?

proper bear
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Def this year

heavy zodiac
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I will buy it for sure

odd scaffold
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It's gotta be announced very very soon

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I'd be surprised if we make it to February without an announcement

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I really hope it's able to boost performance on lots of switch 1 games without needing separate patches to be released. I'm loving Brothership but I kind of have to grin and bear the constant minor framedrops lol

blazing sleet
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Ideally it should have an automatic boost to fps and/or resolution, but then have an option for switch 2 enhanced patches that improve textures etc

real imp
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I still think they may include 3d on this.. it's been my hunch for a year or so.

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that or a 2nd screen feature.

proper bear
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I mean other people may have hated it. But id love 3d. I didn't use it all the time but it was fun

real imp
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I think it would be a cool feature, and with Samsung bringing 3d panels back at CES, it's lining up

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they've also hinted at a 2nd screen, and these new joycons have additional sensors people are picking up on.. sounds like they are going to be including something innovative at the least.. which Nintendo is known for and I've always said "if they release a Switch 2 without some innovation, they are not being nintendo"

proper bear
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I hope so. I've never skipped a Nintendo system. Mostly because of the new things they try. Not sure if I would want a system thats selling point is now it can play the latest AAA titles. I got other systems for that

blazing sleet
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Treating it or a tv as your 2nd screen so you could play ds/3ds between the console and the tv would be quite good

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Problem with includng 3d is it is additional overhead, lowering performance for something many won't actually like or use, there was a reason why the 2ds existed beyond simply price

proper bear
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Yeah. But that's perfect ground for the switch2 lite

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Let me melt my eyeballs, my kids can have the eye-safe version eyes_shake

versed lion
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3DS helped cure my strabismus, more 3D please

prisma raptor
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Do what? derp

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You can really feel the threads starting to wrap around this one. Announcment is imminent

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That’s my totally-non-specific bet

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Need to get me them stonks before it’s too late

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Though, they’ll explode again when the console launches, too sip

silent otter
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You think Nintendo will produce enough units ? Scalpers will definitely try to buy up everything.

stuck viper
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In an interview they said most of the performance bottle neck is that the switch really isn't really able to handle doing that black outline on all the characters

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What's crazy too is since they are the literal octopath devs they initially wanted the game to be 2D HD, which honestly would have been really sick and a better continuation of what alphadream was doing with the art style

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But nintendo shot it down multiple times

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They basically had to spend so much time optimizing the game and just getting the basic gameplay to work they outsourced the script to an external studio. Which is why the game has so many pacing issues especially early on

odd scaffold
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I actually think the Brothership style is waaay better than hd2d lol I'm glad they insisted on it

stuck viper
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Nintendo also from the system update version requirement likely shelved the game for almost 2 years

stuck viper
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Switch 2 even without a patch should at least stabilize the frame rate better. Unless nintendo makes the archaic decision to have Switch 1 mode be super locked down and limited to only 4g of ram like they've done on previous consoles

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Would be nice if it got a 60fps patch. But it's unlikely with the kinda middling sales the game got

fluid island
odd scaffold
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If they really did shelve it for two years, they definitely should've just made it a Switch 2 launch title

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Shame it didn't sell well, I'm really enjoying it personally. That ign 5/10 review is on crack

blazing sleet
versed lion
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Anti-aliasing in Switch 1 games would nice, Metroid Prime Remaster looks a lot better without jaggies

rapid pollen
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anti-aliasing is basically blurring pixels, right?

versed lion
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Yes, and also no

tawny halo
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Genki basically just shown whole thing off

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Including dock 😂

boreal pagoda
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Wow, they should at least get an official teaser out now

proper bear
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If anyone wants to share

spice badge
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🤨

prisma glen
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is that's the real deal, I'm disappointed, doesn't look too different, more like the "New" Nintendo Switch

proper bear
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The original for me was basically perfect minus some ergos and the controller docking. That said, the slides still work til this day. They just felt/seemed like they'd fail at some point

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I like that there are diff hand grips. Not sure if that's a case and genki things. Which I'm assuming. But I like it

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Still hoping for a 3D button 😆

spice badge
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I wonder what the sensor is for

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I am sort of imagining it will do something stream related or like Wii U controller style

latent vortex
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Interesting lol

prisma glen
proper bear
prisma glen
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yeah pro is nice

proper bear
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Joycons good for multiplayer on flights too

south notch
rain igloo
proper bear
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Yooo. I'm on board

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The original wasn't really pocketable to begin with

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Can always wait for the lite which I'm guessing will be smaller

south notch
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Time to start saving

proper bear
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Yeah... Of all the larger handhelds and with a steamdeck OLED already, this will be my premium portable for the year

south notch
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I'm too invested in nintendo, and MonolithSoft

serene plank
blazing sleet
lean lotus
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So that should be $260 before April, the rumored release? official announcement?

proper bear
lean lotus
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I am actually pretty surprised they made the Switch 2 so much bigger.

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It already felt like the Switch was fairly big.

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Maybe I should wait the additional two years for a Switch 2 Lite?

proper bear
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Yeah. I'll reserve total judgement until we find out weight, thickness, etc. I mean we can kind of judge now and it's def bigger, but I feel like Nintendo isn't usually one to just go bigger for no reason

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Am curious to hear their explanation

odd scaffold
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Might just be a case of struggling to get the power they want with good cooling and battery efficiency in the original switch size

leaden kiln
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Deffo the power and the good cooling

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Hell idk how they are going to do with the next switch lite 2

blazing sleet
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Might also be that since the switch, handhelds have got bigger so they are simply following suit, they went bigger with the oled and it presumably sold well, which they could take to mean people wanted a bigger display rather than the more logical idea that people wanted an oled

leaden kiln
proper bear
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Yeah. I mean I'm sure it's an explainable reason. Besides the usual system gimmick, most changes are supported by extensive customer analysis

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"80% of players use docked or on couch, portable players tend to be muscly beef cakes and can carry extra weight" etc. Just feel like it won't be a simple response of like "bigger is better" tho I could be wrong

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Personally because I couldn't easily slip it in a coat or pant pocket, the original switch was mostly a couch machine or work travel machine and dock, sit on plane, device for me anyway. So the added size really doesn't change much

proper bear
blazing sleet
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that pic was a 3d printed mockup being used by 3rd party accessory company to show off their new stuff

rain igloo
proper bear
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Yeah. Even the video posted above might have a thin case on it I think. Quite possible the weight may not be significantly different. Who knows

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Would be cool if you could maybe hold or stand it vertical. Maybe support 3ds and 2ds games. Maybe additional joycons or add-ons planned. Who knows. I'm hoping there's something novel in therr

lean lotus
proper bear
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Personally I don't really care if it's 4K for a Nintendo system. Games look gorgeous regardless. I mean it's possible they'd release some kind of performance dock with additional power, and not just have it unlock a performance mode. But I don't think it's really that necessary

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I'm hoping it also means it's pretty affordable compared to like it's PS5 pro priced counterparts

south notch
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graphical style over fidelity any day

tawny halo
proper bear
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Looking sweet

serene plank
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Damn! Accessory makers probably waited over a year for the announcement, sitting on stock produced a year ago 😂 Now the legal NDA over 1 year has worn off or something

tawny halo
rapid pollen
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winter pecan
rapid pollen
tawny halo
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On top

tawny halo
proper bear
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I love Nintendo. Def getting a switch 2. But man are normie Nintendo Stans so dumb

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$350 seems about right tho. I'd imagine it's somewhere around there. Maybe $300 in the states. But that'd be pushing it

echo dew
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lmao

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be happy if it's under 400 bucks

proper bear
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Actually I'll be honest. If there is no cool novel gimmick or must have launch title I'll probably just wait. I'm fine with it not being as powerful as a steam deck for similar price, but it needs something cool, and if it's just spec bumps I wanna see how battery life is before pulling the trigger. If it's equivalent to the deck I may actually skip this round

high barn
serene plank
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I actually also don’t need a Switch 2 yet and it will depend largely on exclusive games for me. But the hardware from Nintendo is usually top notch, without a single flaw in the first batch and the price stability is unparalleled. So might as well buy early.
If it’s backwards compatible, I will gift the original Switch to my niece

proper bear
high barn
# proper bear I like your optimism. But it wouldn't shock me in the least if steam deck was st...

Not even optimism when we consider the bit where the components leaked could very well end up actually being 5nm instead (since it’s still surprisingly enough a debate), alongside the fact that while it is pretty much guaranteed that Nintendo will absolutely underclock the thing for Handheld mode, Docked mode is another story entirely since even what we do have confirmed has access to dlss, which will work as a really good option for making demanding ports easier to manage.

proper bear
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Yeah. Every release the rumor mill shoots high and low. And low is usually right in this regard. I'll be happy if otherwise. Just feel like many hope for the former but are still happy with the later

high barn
# high barn Not even optimism when we consider the bit where the components leaked could ver...

That’s not even getting into the part where the Steam Deck is already only comparable to a PS4, with most of the punching above its weight class that it pulls off being due to people doing an excellent job of supporting the thing, and a more powerful Switch 2 that’s in the same tier would basically be even more appealing, even with it being ARM, due to the high demand the Switch in general has compared to the Steam Deck and other handheld pc’s.

proper bear
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True. PS4 would be a fidelity upgrade for switch as well tho 😁

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Just saying. People were shocked when switch dropped and games were running at 30fps

proper bear
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Right. We might just be missing each other. I have doubts it'll be any more powerful than a steamdeck. I thought you were implying it'll be more powerful

high barn
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It’s already gonna be a massive jump from the Switch 1, and even being only around PS4 base model would still put it in the same tier as the Steam Deck, where the only difference would be that the Steam Deck can be full throttle at all times, while the Switch is likely gonna be underclocked for Handheld, while docked could potentially be full throttle if the leaked dock designs suggests they’re planning on implementing a fan into the dock.

high barn
# proper bear Right. We might just be missing each other. I have doubts it'll be any more powe...

Oh, I absolutely do not really believe it will be more powerful, I just believe it could and should be able to reach similar levels, and that it being that level of power would incentivize companies to actually optimize for not just that performance level, but also for ARM as a whole (which would all be great).

At most for the “more powerful” but, I just held some hopes that it could somehow end up having better performance than the Xbox Series S, and that was moreso me thinking it would be the funniest shit imaginable than it being an actual hope, specifically that “I’ll laugh my ass off if Microsoft’s stupid ‘you have to support the Series S by default if you want to port the games, even if it would only run fine on Series X and run poorly on Series S’ ends up resulting in *Nintendo having a current console that plays games better than Xbox’s current console”.

proper bear
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Haha. Would be funny.

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But yeah. Def still excited. Just hoping there's something Nintendo fun in there as well

warped heath
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or a 2x upres with that ai thing they copyrighted a while back

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or

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SGSR

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no native 4K unless its a pixel art game

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or Minecraft Bedrock maybe lol

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I'm hoping that backwards compat with the 1080p display means Handheld on the SW2 will be SW1 Docked, hopefully with unlocked framerates for games that ran at 30 docked on SW1

proper bear
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Some backwards enhance would be amazing

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At least for first party

warped heath
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if theyve got sgsr they should just be able to inject it into the frame pipeline of their older games honestly

proper bear
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Ah. Looks like genki just mocked up the switch 2 based on leaks

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Supposedly

tawny halo
proper bear
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Yup. Bye bye

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With good reason

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I mean they're both playing it off like genki didn't get final hardware for their accessories but they probably did. You just always say woops when caught

proper bear
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Same guy was right for PS5 pro and Nintendo clock announce dates

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Not that he can't be wrong but. With all the leaks I feel like it's pretty eminent.

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Close enough that some companies clearly felt safe breaching NDAs to leak their accessories early XD

clever geyser
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I’ll take one with Mario kart plz

high barn
# proper bear

Yeah, I’m not too sure how much I believe that price, considering that would be around $280 when converted to USD.

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Although, the Switch OLED is around 450 in Canadian Dollars, which converts to less than what it costs in the US ($350).

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So who knows? Maybe they’re gonna do something really weird and make it effectively $300.

proper bear
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I mean it's gonna be old hardware in general

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Maybe they make the dock sold separate

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Well and this isn't OLED

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Usually Nintendo is pretty good about keeping things affordable

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If they want to make the switch 2 as unit sales popular as the switch 1 and it's only a hardware bump upgrade it'll need some incentivising

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Wii - $249
Wii U - $299
Switch - $299

$300 as a target isn't that crazy. And falls in line with their recent affordability. $350 might make sense too. It's why I always think it's silly when people complain about them keeping their game prices consistent.

sullen panther
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I thought I read that they were going to be no launch titles straight from Nintendo themselves

proper bear
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Nintendo never released a confirmation as far as I'm aware

proper bear
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Yeah. Red dead seems to be mentioned by everyone. There's 3 other ports. And then I think one of two mystery titles. One of which could be mario kart

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Kinda seems wild they wouldn't release any first party title with the system. I think they have before but I can't remember what

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Might have been Pokemon. Which isn't really third party

novel crystal
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I think a new mario game at launch and one other first party game is a given

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considering how long it has been since some large first party games from nintendo

proper bear
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yeah, i mean they had to be working on something 😆

latent vortex
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new 3d mario
new 3d dk or just dk in general
new starfox
new metroid is confirmed already
i hope its all of them!

south notch
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no F-Zero though

latent vortex
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I would love one but that's not really a console seller to all but hardcore fans

blazing sleet
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Having some racing game at launch would be a console seller though

latent vortex
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theres a new mario kart heavily rumored

south notch
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I'll take another F.A.S.T game

serene plank
# proper bear

So Nintendo paid Rockstar off to hold back on a PS5 upgrade to make their launch look more impressive. Smart move

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About the price, the listing somewhere else for 380€ seems more reasonable and is actually closer to 400 USD. But maybe the AI-upscale-dock will be optional?

proper bear
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I could see them hitting $300 with the hardware if they plan to sell at a slight loss..maybe even $350 with paper thin margins.

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I think they're going to have a harder time selling it if it's simply just a spec bumps AND costs $400

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€380 also includes VAT no?

serene plank
proper bear
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Yeah. I could see $350. $300 would just be an auto buy for me 😆

stuck slate
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Idk guys

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I might not be getting this on launch

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Unless it launches with Metroid or Pokemon

proper bear
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Maybe Metroid. Def not Pokemon. Not even sure if I'd buy a launch Pokemon. Last few titles have been... Interesting

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I would play the heck out of some mario kart tho

lean lotus
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If Pokemon Legends A-Z isn't launch window I'll be surprised.

proper bear
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Guess it could be. It's def coming this year. Just wouldn't be shocked if it was the holiday seller

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Leaks have said 8/15

odd scaffold
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Would be nice to finally see a new Mario Kart after like ten years lol. Not sure how it could compete with 8 Deluxe and it's billion tracks tho

proper bear
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Yeah. Guess if it launches with brand new tracks they'll roll out old ones again over time

iron apex
rapid pollen
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what is even the point lmao

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unless it really does make original switch games look/feel that much better with the higher framerates/resolution

proper bear
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i'm assuming genki would have had to work some deal to get the hardware to make accessories, and clearly were like, i'm gonna pay this blackmarket dude instead?

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oh, wait, nm, apple does partner with some accessories so probably wanted and exclusive launch period first

proper bear
edgy frost
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All these leaks are just free advertising for the Switch 2 , Nintendo isn't stupid

proper bear
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i mean that'd be dope, but nintendo is really like this

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i mean i can appreciate it

rapid pollen
proper bear
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very few manus try hard to get a launch release to actually be something excitingly unexpected

rapid pollen
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manus?

proper bear
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these days it takes a monumental effort

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"manufacturers"

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could have gone with corpos too

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makes more sense

tawny halo
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Here we go guys!

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Get ready for Thursday

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Wonder if they will shadow drop like Switch OLED trailer

proper bear
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Will be interesting to see if it's the 16th or 17th

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Used to always be Thursdays but I feel like the past year they've done it whenever

rapid pollen
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my goodness

iron apex
tawny halo
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Can’t wait for this thread to get busy on Thursday 😂

lean lotus
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I'll probably leave the thread then lol

odd scaffold
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Even if the leak is wrong I guess it'll be busy regardless lol

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If it really is just a console reveal with no software, that would imply to me that it's got a fair few unique features and stuff. I wonder if we'll see glimpses of the next 3d Mario in the reveal like they did with Odyssey in the Switch reveal

rapid pollen
tawny halo
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I could see them doing that again, esp with all the leaks

proper bear
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Yeah. They've been doing it more recently

iron apex
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''Can you keep a secret? We can't...''

tawny halo
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The Verge

VGC reports that Nintendo will reveal its new console on Thursday, January 16th. This is according to claims from reliable video game podcaster Nate the Hate and supported by The Verge’s own insider sources. We believe the likely sequence of events will be an announcement on January 15th, with the actual reveal taking place the following day, s...

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Verge also confirming

crisp swan
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Switch 2 announcement this week!

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Nintendo: The switch successor is coming soon.

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End stream.

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It would funny if it another one of those announcements of an annoucement videos though.

south notch
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time to go on cheap noodles and tuna to save up

proper bear
clever geyser
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Hopefully all switch 1 accessories work on switch 2 fine

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need my m30 to work please

south notch
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I'm sure controllers and the like will

serene plank
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What are the chances of Nintendo dropping „available immediately“? I‘m flying to HK on Thursday, wouldn’t mind to be one of the first to have a Switch 2 😂

cyan mortar
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I would be honestly happy if the switch 2 was lighter and faster LOL

tawny halo
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Imagine anything that works via bluetooth will. Anything using 2.4ghz dongle will likely need an update applied and likely same for USB devices. But depends if they are using same OS underneath on switch 2. Imagine they must be if they want backwards compatibility

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100% expecting a pro controller 2

trail cedar
lean lotus
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Worst thing that'll happen to Nintendo then is price cut to $350 and have games at launch lol.

"Sure we're $50 more, but we're also Nintendo and have Nintendo IP so you'll buy it over the probably won't be supported longer than a year Vita 2"

trail cedar
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Oh yeah, for clarity, I am not being super serious

serene plank
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„Nintendo is getting RDR2? Then we will create a Vita 2 so we can have GTA5!“ Console Wars 2025

lean lotus
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I am curious about a PSP3

rapid dawn
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The only accesories that can realistically work on the Switch 2 would be the Pro Controller and Joycons but not attached.

rapid dawn
limber fog
proper bear
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Must be depression shopping 😆

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Still don't understand why people buy that thing. The side by sides are basically this

next ginkgo
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I am increasingly convinced that the Switch 2 will be Nintendo's safest ever follow up console. Possible exception is GB > GBC. Having bought their products for over 40 years - I am surprised how safe this hardware is turning out to be.

proper bear
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Yeah. So far from what we know that seems to be the case

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I'm hoping there's some surprises in the accessories tho. Which there could be

next ginkgo
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But boy oh boy - the rumours are piling up now and I honestly think they are just going to push a Switch 1 hardware upgrade out.

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Not trolling, by the way - very much hope I'm wrong.

proper bear
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No. Totally understandable. I have my doubts too. And if it's just spec bumps I'm fine with waiting for some limited game launch edition

next ginkgo
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Maybe Nintendo looked at how their products with with dual screens and / or motion controls worked out and thought 'Hey it is a great cash grab in the moment to jump on the gimmick bandwagon, but it isn't securing us for long term strategy'?

proper bear
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Yeah. Who knows. Even when they do crazy shit they still sell like hotcakes

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Now that someone mentioned bringing the 3ds tech to the switch it's all I want. Lol

spice badge
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There is a sensor

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There will be some sort of gimmick or feature that we’re not familiar with

proper bear
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Yeah. I expect it. Well. Hope for it

flint sable
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I'm checking this thread every day now 😄

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I need to know moar!!

rapid dawn
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Don't bother rn

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it's 9 PM in Japan.

flint sable
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True but leaks may happen anytime

rapid dawn
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next window for an announcement-announcement is maybe in 2 hours if they wanted a 0:00 announcement. If not then you'd be waiting at least 8 more hours imo.

clever geyser
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Cmon Nintendo

tawny halo
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Still think we are getting a shadow drop

trail cedar
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It were an joke

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Granted, maybe not a very good one….

main otter
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The shortest presentation in history

trail cedar
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Some of us are just that old 😂

winter pecan
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it's not a very Nintendo thing to do

tawny halo
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Its been done

winter pecan
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ah, then l stand corrected

clever geyser
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Is it out yet

tawny halo
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Hopefully announcement for the announcement soon

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But i am under the impression the trailer is just going to appear

clever geyser
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I’ll check again in 10 mins

flint sable
proper bear
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Lol

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I mean it's gonna be Thursday or Friday

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Rumors say Friday. In the past they've done a lot of Thursdays

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Not sure if they'd announce Japan time or US time. Normally I'd say Japan. But they'll probably drop YouTube vids at the same time so maybe they'll wait til later

warped heath
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#🕹│rh-general message
With the spec leaks being out recently (or me only recently seeing them lol) is what I said here out there or is it a reasonable assumption?

clever geyser
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Is it out yet?

serene plank
tawny halo
clever geyser
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Damn brutal

echo dew
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i'm skipping the 3 and will be getting the switch 4, but maybe i'll wait for the oled pro model

late mulch
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At least they're going with a 5090 for the Switch 4

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meanwhile, flying cars

rapid pollen
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that's not even an effective joke lmao

proper bear
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And I'd still buy one

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Because it'll also double as a hoverboard

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While PS and Xbox just dive further into uncanny valley

void cloak
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Saw a reddit comment that basically puts it at 10x in terms of raw FLOPS compared to the Switch

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If they fix the atrocious mem bandwidth from the Switch 1, it will be fine

warped heath
rapid pollen
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75% of the raw graphical processing power plus DLSS and frame gen means the actual picture + performance of switch 2 docked will be better than series S

warped heath
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Hopefully it gives Series S performance, but seems like very wishful thinking atp

lean lotus
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I've been hearing PS4 and PS4 Pro specs for Switch 2 thrown around.

rapid pollen
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y'all severely under-estimate DLSS and frame gen imo

rapid pollen
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and that's just raw GPU performance

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not even taking DLSS+frame gen into account

lean lotus
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Isn't frame gen more for "you already have decent-ish framerates, we'll toss even more at you"? Because for me frame interpolation has felt super weird the first times I've used it.

warped heath
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Well we've had the spec leaks and very little to contradict them for a while now, clock speed leaks are more recent

warped heath
warped heath
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It ain't that simple

lean lotus
warped heath
rapid pollen
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handheld is 1.72 peak, docked is 3.09 peak
ps4 was 1.84, xbox series s is 4.006

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and with DLSS you can probably count on handheld rendering internally at 720p and upscaling to 1080p, and docked rendering at 1080 or 1440p and upscaling to 4k

lean lotus
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I highly doubt 1440p because that's too PC centric for Nintendo to ever think about imo.

warped heath
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Native resolution at 720 8 years after the Switch lmao

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"count on"

rapid pollen
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even still, obviously 1080p upscaled to 4k doesn't look like 4k native, but it still looks fantastic

warped heath
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Eh

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So, it's a PS4 Pro at best

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Docked

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And a Slim handheld

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Hopefully Nintendo don't shoot themselves in the foot and advertise 120fps or 4K support lol

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Definitely not together

rapid pollen
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they should absolutely advertise 4k120 because there would absolutely be some games that can hit that

warped heath
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Wonder will it also be using Frame Gen, bleh

warped heath
rapid pollen
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frame gen works for that gen of Nvidia GPUs so I'd imagine they'd take full advantage of it

warped heath
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Even then it'll prob more not be locked at all

rapid pollen
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let me play my Golf Story in 4k120 dammit.

warped heath
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Dynamic res, Frame Gen, Dlss, low-medium settings at most

rapid pollen
#

no but seriously I really hope we get a high refresh rate display. Even 90hz would make me happy

warped heath
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90hz is criminally undersupported tbh

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Most game streaming services if not all only offer 60 or 120, can't buy 90hz displays because everything skipped to 120-144hz

rapid pollen
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tons of phones have 90hz displays

warped heath
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phone

rapid pollen
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you say that as if people don't game or watch content on their phones lol

clever geyser
#

Is it out yet?

flint sable
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Announcement is out, but has been removed by YouTube moderation. Too much hype

warped heath
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(not a single streaming service, even game streaming services)

clever geyser
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Going bed, hope I can order a switch 2 when I wake up

latent vortex
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Freeze yourself in ice

tawny halo
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Still no announcement. We are getting a shadow drop i’m telling you

spice badge
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The announcement

tawny halo
# spice badge The announcement

Apparently they were meant to be tweeting the announcement today. But haven’t. I think they are literally just going to hit publish on vid and leave it at that

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Same thing happened with OLED vid. Just dropped no warning

spice badge
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Yeah and yesterday they tweeted about the pretendo thing

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Like come on you guys aren’t THAT mysterious and cool

tawny halo
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Today they tweet about Donkey Kong

spice badge
main otter
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I heard last time the tweet came out about 24 hours before the announcement which was around 9pm EST / 8am JPT

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So there are still a few hours

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Bad for Europe and Africa time zones. Anyway, I am going to bed.

main otter
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Is this a subtle hint for Metroid Prime 4 as a launch game?

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That and Metroid Prime 2 and 3 Remaster, please!

lean lotus
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I'm here thinking of what kind of games will get ported to Switch 2. My dumb sucker ass would totally get Sekiro a third time.

proper bear
latent vortex
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midday tomorrow (usa) IS friday for japan fyi

rapid pollen
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yeah like it's currently 8:30ish am in japan lol

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on thursday btw

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we're probably like 26-28 hours away from the announcement

proper bear
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Yeah. True. Will be interesting to see when exactly

winter pecan
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you know, even if they do finally announce it this week chances are high that it'll be a nothing burger

rapid pollen
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everything that's leaked so far made official lol

winter pecan
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"this is the switch 2. It looks like a switch, but a little bit bigger. Stay tuned in the next few months for more!"

lean lotus
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I'm almost hoping it'll all be done with by the time I wake up.

rapid pollen
lean lotus
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Eastern

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I've also been up for a billion hours, so I'm expecting to sleep for a billion more.

rapid pollen
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the announcement is expected to be tomorrow night

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like, 24-26 hours from now

compact perch
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I have a feeling this consoles going to be underwhelming especially with all the hype and exciting going around..

latent vortex
flint sable
iron apex
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The PS5 was also just a stronger PS4Pro

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There’s no need for flashy reveals

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As long as launch titles are great the switch 2 will be great as well

proper bear
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Eh. I think people are just over expecting on the performance front

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We've all gotten too used to holding supercomputers in our hands

compact perch
# iron apex It’s gonna do just fine

Never said it’s going to fail , just said it’s going to be underwhelming , especially since the chips been ready for 2 years according to Nvidia.

Bigger isn’t always better for me , I already thought the OG Switch was big , so increasing its size for me isn’t exciting….

but hey if it came somehow hit ps4-ps4 pro performance like the rumours it should be good but I have a feeling it’s not

clever geyser
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I woke up and it’s not out yet wtf

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Was expecting despatch info

rapid pollen
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you shouldn't have

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nate said thursday in the US, friday in Japan, meaning thursday evening/night in the US

clever geyser
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Unacceptable

tawny halo
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Welp! Today is the day! At least here in the UK 😅

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Still only tweeting about Donkey Kong

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I feel bad for Nate if he is wrong

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Most Nintendo reveals are between 3PM - 6PM in UK. So still time for a shadow drop!

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Imagine all YouTubers are poised and ready to make summary videos/thoughts and impressions on the event 😅

rapid dawn
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After the first Switch reveal there was a Tidal Wave of youtubers predicting it was going to be a big failure

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No SSD, no 4k, can't plug joycons while playing 0/10 IGN

stuck slate
#

How's the switch 2 cope

clever geyser
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My body is ready

flint sable
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Every year a Zelda game

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What's going to happen for Switch2?

clever geyser
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A Zelda game

flint sable
stuck slate
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Ayyy Mario kart 9

flint sable
#

So the aesthetics aren't too nice but OK. At least we have a date now

stuck slate
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I like it over the original switch

flint sable
#

I just wish for all games to be 60fps

stuck slate
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I don't think they'll target 60fps in heldhold mode

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It'll be either 1080p30 or 720p60

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Probably the former

echo dew
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of course it was all real

jaunty orbit
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I know it's Nintendo, but their first party stuff will all be targeting 60fps no doubt

echo dew
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see ttyd remake

umbral matrix
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Man April 2nd is so far away 😭

winter pecan
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unbelievable boring aesthetics, they've done nothing to the sticks, dpad, ergonomics, nothing

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if this was a retro handheld it'd be torn apart by reviewers

flint sable
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Oh yeah. I didn't even notice

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Still no dpad 🤦‍♂️

high barn
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Can someone pick up that phone?

I totally called it!

foggy raft
#

love this they also added more shoulder buttons to individual joycons and the attachment looks sturdier

novel crystal
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Who doesn't assume it will have backwards compatibility?

foggy raft
#

also i think the switch lite 2 should have detachable joycons and i hope that them making the big one bigger would allow for that

minor flicker
#

Well we know Labo won’t work on it since it doesn’t work on the OLED

high barn
leaden kiln
high barn
leaden kiln
echo dew
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it would have been insane not having it, especially with the most continuist design they've ever done

novel crystal
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Until they can pull the rug from under people at the worst time to cause the most issues doggylol

high barn
high barn
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It’s like, there’s having lowered expectations, and then there’s literally just being idiotic levels of cynical or pessimistic.

leaden kiln
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I'm so glad nowwwww this would be my first switch ever

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But should I wait for switch 2 lite maybe maybe

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Switch 2 and switch lite sounds like good good fun because they said certain nintendo switch games may not supported on switch 2

echo dew
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i'm not buying it at launch or even at all until there's a super mario odyssey sequel

echo dew
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they're probably saying that because they haven't tested however many thousands of games switch has

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or because of stuff like labo

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or ring fit

leaden kiln
fervent onyx
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We get to wait 2.5 months to find out when the actual release date is. Wooooo

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I am excited.... but also not? Nintendo shill levels high, but the leaks were REAL leaks and its not super exciting as its been leaked to all hell

echo dew
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i suppose either may or or september-november

fervent onyx
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I mean, it will be released this year. My gut tells me Fall, but there is a glimmer of hope for late spring/ summer

stuck viper
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24 PLAYER?!?!?!?!?

fervent onyx
#

They said they're stockpiling consoles. But the initial wave is going to get blown out by scalpers, and everyone clamoring to get one.

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So idk it would "seem" Smart to me to release it earlier in the year, to get that shit over with, so that ninty can just sell a shitload of them at christmas themselves

echo dew
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good luck to scalpers and i hope they lose a ton of money like with the last few big launches

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it's not 2020 anymore

stuck viper
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If they are doing the full direct in April. I feel like June release is extremely likely

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Tbf if Joycons 1 can pair to the new system that could easily make ring fit playable

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Labos definitely impossible tho

echo dew
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doesn't the ring for ring fit have a joycon rail you're supposed to put a joycon in?

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the mechanism is different now

stuck viper
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That's why I said joycon 1

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If they make the original joycons pairable through bluetooth

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Games like 1 2 switch and ring fit should be fine

echo dew
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oh my bad

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yeah, i suppose

rapid dawn
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Are those colored joystick rings or actual RGB?

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I am not sure which answer I'd hate more

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like, making the joycon boring plain black but you still have to worry about mix and matching colors would suck so much.

leaden kiln
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BUT

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We would get more colours anyway

rapid dawn
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Joycon 1s are going to be pairable and it's going to suck.

fervent onyx
rapid dawn
#

Like, you'll need another switch or a new accessory to charge them.

fervent onyx
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Likely

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I mean they make charging "handles" to pop the joycons into, as well as the little charging stands that can charge up 4x cons at once

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but yeah it will be a bit funky

rapid dawn
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I've never worried about the joycon rails as much as I am already worrying about this thin piece of plastic that's constantly going to receive impacts from magnetic attraction

tawny halo
#

So much for March release then

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If direct is in April. I can’t see it being available same day

stuck viper
#

My money's on June

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2 months for a huge marketing push after the big direct reveals everything

fervent onyx
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Nah was never going to release in March. The only actual communication from ninty was "We'll reveal the device by march" lol

rapid dawn
#

There's going to be physical events "all over the world" which I guess means US, Europe, Australia, Japan and Korea.

fervent onyx
#

So all things considered we're two months ahead of schedule lol

rapid dawn
#

So if you live in one of those five areas you might be able to witness the Switch 2 in person long before release.

fervent onyx
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Yeah I live about an hour train ride / hour drive with no traffic from NYC. So i'll register for the first look event

leaden kiln
fervent onyx
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Make a day of it

stuck viper
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I'm guessing we won't get any trailers or stuff until after the direct

fervent onyx
#

Its basically a lotto anyway, so registering doesn't mean you're guaranteed a ticket

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Yeah as far as I see it. 4/2/25 (APRIL lol NOT FEB for the brits here) will be when they hit you with release date, preorder date, and some software

leaden kiln
#

Maybe games

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Hehe

fervent onyx
#

Yeah I mean. Prime 4 is hype level over 9000

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They always say that "Metroid doesn't sell super well" so who knows. Nintendo doesn't consider it a "Strong" IP.

stuck viper
#

Ngl in the switch 1 trailer we saw the pro controller and like 5 different Nintendo games shown even if they weren't given names yet

leaden kiln
stuck viper
#

So this reveal is kinda weak in comparison

leaden kiln
iron apex
#

Now imagine you can emulate switch 2 games with yuzu

high barn
#

Both physical and digital backwards compatibility.

stuck viper
#

I wonder if MK9 is gonna be the cross gen title. Might explain why it's not that huge of a graphical jump

void cloak
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Note the little asterisk

stuck viper
#

And the new joycons don't have the ir

clever geyser
#

That’s the ability for the joy on to be a mouse yeah?

tawny halo
high barn
void cloak
iron apex
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There’s literally too many people that own a switch

stuck viper
iron apex
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They’ll do their best to support the switch 1 platform as long as they can

leaden kiln
iron apex
#

Aren’t like 40% of Sony players still on the ps4/pro as well

leaden kiln
#

Not launching

stuck viper
#

It won't be as annoying as the 3ds with the switch 1 tho

stuck viper
#

Since any new switch game will also run on switch 2

iron apex
#

Backwards compatibility and supporting you’re older gen for as long as possible is a must

tawny halo
leaden kiln
#

Sooo people who want bit of power don't worry we got switch 2

stuck viper
#

I wonder if they release any "switch 2" specific versions of games like pokemon legends za and metroid prime 4

high barn
stuck viper
#

Or if it'll just be a patch

tawny halo
stuck viper
#

And just one sku for the game

iron apex
#

Switch 1 has to be the most dragged console in history

proper bear
high barn
tawny halo
iron apex
stuck viper
#

What was crazy if the rumors are true it was actually THIRD PARTIES trying to nudge nintendo to make the switch 2 not backwards compatible

iron apex
#

It’ll probably be indentical

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Game carts with a slight bump to not fit inside the switch 1

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But switch 1 cartridges will fit into the switch 2

stuck viper
#

Hopefully we have to deal with way less ports

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Since they basically have no more wii u games to pull from

high barn
glacial oyster
#

Enjoy all the "enhanced" Wii and GC games coming for $60

proper bear
#

Damn. No switch experience near me. Too bad. Was fun last time

odd scaffold
stuck viper
#

I always felt like the switch 1 was just one time thing anyways

high barn
void cloak
fervent onyx
glacial oyster
#

Twilight Princess, OoT, MM, and Wind Waker are all easy lucrative releases

stuck viper
#

Because they went from disc's to cartridges. And nintendo clearly lost money on a LOT of wii u games

proper bear
glacial oyster
#

I will sacrifice a sack full of puppies for a Kid Icarus Uprising port though

fervent onyx
odd scaffold
#

I'm just expecting $60 upgrade patches for Switch 1 games so if that doesn't happen I'll be pleasantly surprised

stuck viper
#

If nintendo ever had the balls to give us Mario Galaxy 3 I would ascend but it'll never happen

odd scaffold
#

That's basically the only other thing I was hoping for from the reveal, please let BC actually enhance the games that struggle on the Switch 1

leaden kiln
#

I can't lie Nintendo is going to have fun with third party games unleash each games nooooo hold back

high barn
stuck viper
#

Nintendo never even bothered to make a sequel to odyssey despite how much that game made

stuck viper
#

I was saying why nintendo ported so many wii u games to switch

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Them being greedy was charging $60 a pop for them tho

high barn
proper bear
#

Odyssey and Galaxy were bangers but I'm kind of glad they just don't pump out sequels and try new things

stuck viper
high barn
stuck viper
#

Dkctf was like 40

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On wii u

rapid dawn
#

I just want an actual Galaxy 1-2 Switch port

proper bear
#

Dont need Call of Mario: Modern Wario 1-50

rapid dawn
#

Without needing touch controls every 5 seconds

stuck viper
#

Luigis Mansion 2 was $40 on 3ds

leaden kiln
stuck viper
#

Still charged 60 anyways

high barn
lean lotus
#

Well, at least I have more time to save for the Switch 2.

proper bear
#

Also glad I do all my Nintendo game shopping during holidays when most stuff hits the 40 region 😆

glad cradle
#

doesn’t feel like Switch 2, more like “New Switch XL”

high barn
stuck viper
#

I literally said it makes sense for them to bring them over. Just charging full price when some of these ports add almost nothing sometimes is greedy

proper bear
#

We don't really know anything about it we didn't know. So maybe there's more?

leaden kiln
proper bear
#

The hardware was pretty hashed out a while ago

stuck viper
proper bear
#

Still hoping there's some cool accessories in the pipe that would actually get me to buy one

leaden kiln
high barn
proper bear
#

Yeah. I just don't really care about s spec bump. I'll spend money elsewhere and buy it in a year when it's $50 cheaper and has more of a new backlog

leaden kiln
#

👀

stuck viper
#

I mean totk being 70 is bad but that's completely unrelated

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2 things can be bad at the same time

proper bear
#

I mean I guess 60 would have made more sense

high barn
stuck viper
#

Ironically i think botw is the better game anyways and far more stable with performance

high barn
leaden kiln
#

Guys it's nintendo of course they keep the price high than electric billbl

proper bear
leaden kiln
#

Like Mario kart 8 is still 40 to 50 price

stuck viper
#

Totk sales kinda nose dived compared to other switch games that have been super evergreen

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Still sold well obviously

high barn
proper bear
#

It's how Nintendo stays profitable. It's their market strategy. Sell cheap hardware near cost. Sell software at consistent pricing

#

It's nothing new

clever geyser
#

Joycon being used as a mouse will be awesome

stuck viper
#

But I hope they actually see that as enough that they need to do much more for the next zelda

proper bear
#

I'll take a $300 switch and $60 games over a $750 PS5 Pro

tawny halo
stuck viper
#

No one's buying that ps5 pro sony is insane

leaden kiln
stuck viper
#

It doesn't even feel like we're half way through the gen anyways

high barn
stuck viper
#

Sony and ESPECIALLY Microsoft have been shockingly fumbling this gen

proper bear
#

I'd kill for a twilight princess. Was one of my favs even if less popular

high barn
stuck viper
#

Everyone was afraid microsoft was gonna have a monopoly over gaming with game pass and all the acquisitions

compact sable
proper bear
#

One thing is for sure. Midway through this Gen cycle I completely stopped remembering Xbox existed

tawny halo
stuck viper
#

But they've just been shooting themselves in the foot every second they get

proper bear
#

To be fair I forgot about Sony too until their handheld leaks 😆

stuck viper
#

Nah my bets on ps6 being a massive flop in like 2029

tawny halo
proper bear
#

PS5 PP (Pro Pro)

stuck viper
#

Nintendo was smart giving up on the console market. The dock and "hybrid" is just clever marketing for slapping video out on a handheld

compact sable
#

I don’t see Sony doing a refresh, I think their focus is on the handheld and PS6

#

They already refreshed + did the Pro model and at this point Microsoft could give away Xbox’s for free and not make a dent in Sonys market share

pine cove
#

Need this Asap

stuck viper
#

They dropped out at basically the perfect time. And what's funny is back in the 3ds days people were dead set that dedicated handhelds were gonna be killed by smartphone apps

leaden kiln
proper bear
#

Supposedly the next gen snapdragons might almost double battery life. Would be cool if we finally started getting some handhelds/phones again.

stuck viper
#

Nintendo was always strongest with handhelds

proper bear
#

That's true. They also had zero competition for most of it. Heh

stuck viper
#

Hell the "hybrid" marketing made the nintendo console players accept practically 0 graphical bump to the next console

#

Literal gamecube to wii situation

proper bear
#

To release a solid handheld consistently with lacking competition is still something to applaud tho

compact sable
#

What else is there though? They can’t compete in the console space directly anymore

proper bear
#

What is the console space anymore?

leaden kiln
stuck viper
#

The steam deck probably spooked nintendo a little bit tho. I heavily believe that's why the switch 2 has the specs it does

pine cove
#

I mean they are smoking the console war lol

proper bear
#

MS and Sony are only going to continue hard shifts to streaming

lean lotus
#

I highly doubt the Steam Deck spooked Nintendo.

compact sable
proper bear
compact sable
#

It’s just as “outdated” at launch as the original Switch was

lean lotus
#

Nintendo execs had literally no clue how PSN and Xbox Live worked when NoA was talking to them about it iirc.

stuck viper
compact sable
#

Nintendo doesn’t even know how their online system works

lean lotus
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I highly doubt they care about the Steam Deck outside of people constantly posting social media of it pirating Switch games.

proper bear
lean lotus
compact sable
stuck viper
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At the very least the steam deck ripped gaming laptop companies a new one. And now they are all haphazardly rushing to compete with valve

lean lotus
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Like, let's say the Steam Deck has sold 10 million units, to be extra generous.

Amazing for the PC handheld market. Astounding and hilariously over the top.

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Fucking awful in the console market.

proper bear
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So it's older hardware. Who gives a flying fuck. They'll still sell millions and release banger games. Like Nintendo clearly gives 0 fucks

high barn
high barn
compact sable
proper bear
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Every Gen people are like "geeze Nintendo so far behind, they'll never sell them" and Nintendo's like "hold my beer"

compact sable
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You can still get Gaming Laptops with 4050s that smoke the Deck for under $700 lol

tawny halo
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I have only just realised they are still using that same dpad 🤦‍♂️

compact sable
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It’s a totally different person buying the two

tawny halo
compact sable
lean lotus
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Oh god no

proper bear
lean lotus
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I hate that fucking circular dpad bs

tawny halo
lean lotus
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Gimme a cross.

high barn
stuck viper
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Nintendos about to make me wait for the lite 2 with that 4 button "dpad"

proper bear
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At least it's an option

stuck viper
proper bear
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Would suck if Nintendo strangled accessories as well

stuck viper
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Valve can sell at a loss

stuck viper
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So they basically have a cheat code

high barn
lean lotus
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Like Nintendo could absolutely make a power console like a PS5/XSX. But like, why would they need to. They save a ton of money using older/cheaper parts. They save a ton of money making games that aren't targeting super high graphical fidelity that one would want to use that high power for. Keeping it hybrid ensures that they keep their monopoly on the handheld console market, and a handheld should generally have less power consumption than a console tied to the power outlet at all times.

compact sable
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An i3 with a dGPU will run circles around the handhelds too

pine cove
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What does any of this matter

stuck viper
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It doesnt

proper bear
pine cove
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In any case, gimmie new Mario kart plz

lean lotus
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Pokemon taken to 3D was okay. It was really Pokemon taken to HD 3D that really started to burn it for me personally.

compact sable
proper bear
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True. I just know they had a real challenge trying to use a more modern paradigm to even develop the game. Heh

compact sable
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But yeah this is the Switch 2 chat

stuck viper
lean lotus
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Nintendo realized that the spec race only really works if you win the race.

proper bear
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Especially with Sony and MS not being just game console creators

stuck viper
lean lotus
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If you don't, cough cough N64 GCN, then you now have expensive parts that aren't selling enough to be worth it.

pine cove
stuck viper
proper bear
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Like contracts with hardware makers was always going to favor Sony and MS over Nintendo in the long run

stuck viper
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There must be a bunch of new items if I had to guess

high barn
stuck viper
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To warrant 24 players

high barn
compact sable
pine cove
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Mario kart online has always been good

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Back to even Wii/Ds days

tawny halo
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If thats part of Switch Online i will be happy

high barn
tawny halo
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Having “free” retro games is a nice bonus

stuck viper
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The netcode is wonky where if it shows you got hit on their screen

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But not yours

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It'll still count as a hit on you

pine cove
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Never experienced

stuck viper
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It's more common if you play global

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Especially in high vr rooms when you deal with a ton of Japanese players lol

tawny halo
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Lol who has friends to use codes 😅😂 i just play strangers

stuck viper
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Nintendo still considers those "real games"

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For port and remake fodder they can sell for $60

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Same for 3ds

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DS should be fair game tho

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Switch 2 is rumored to have a mic so

lean lotus
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Like the prices they pick are just so weird.

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You'd think they're just always go $60.

tawny halo
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Would be funny if Russ get’s a ticket for first hands on. 😅

stuck viper
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and ngl 50 might still have been too much to ask for LOL

proper bear
stuck viper
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maybe MPR for 40 was some galaxy brain move to try to get more people into metroid, inorder for prime 4 to be worth it

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but considering they did 0 MARKETING for it

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and just shadow dropped it i guess they had 0 hope for it

proper bear
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Instead of relying on launch sales and then letting the game slide to bargain bin prices in 2 months. And whipping their devs to finish something new if they want to get paid

stuck viper
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wild times we live in, Nintendo sees luigis mansion as more valuable than metroid

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LM3 selling as well as it did had to be a shocker

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it got them to buy next level so

proper bear
tawny halo
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Hopefully Wind waker HD finally

proper bear
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Hell yeah. Feed my switch 1

tawny halo
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😂 just gimme Wind Waker Nintendo

proper bear
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It's all anyone wants. Haha

stuck viper
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especially if they brought back a hunters style multiplayer or something

proper bear
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No. I agree with you there. I just think Nintendo may have lost something if they fell down that hole

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I don't want them to be the best. I just want them to keep making cool weird shit. Lol

stuck viper
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dont worry nintendo has their copy and paste shooter already

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splatoon

proper bear
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Haha. True

high barn
# tawny halo

Ok, who else thinks this dumbass just read the date wrong and thought “February 4th”? With the Switch 1 thing being rage clickbait?

stuck viper
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i bought splatoon 2 had my fun

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never felt the need to get 3

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and with switch 2 being backwards comp unless 4 is a massive step up i might still be content sticking to 2 LOL

proper bear
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It is something and hand to a kid where they're just not shooting someone different from them in a desert tho

signal tinsel
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I sold my switch more than a year ago in anticipation for switch 2 lol, it was the gen 1/og one too

proper bear
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She might end up hating squid people tho

stuck viper
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but i got it used for an amazing deal

leaden kiln
signal tinsel
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I tried really hard to resist

proper bear
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I still have my launch. But it mostly collects dust after the oled

stuck viper
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my original switch was half broken

signal tinsel
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Debating if I wanna come back and get a switch 2 or not 🤔
My switch 1 was collecting dust for the longest

proper bear
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Meant to go back and mod it. But I haven't kept up on that scene at all

high barn
# leaden kiln Lmaooo

I fully believe he unironically just read the date wrong and added the “Switch 1 games” bit for rage clickbait.

stuck viper
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i want to see if they are doing patches for switch 1 games

tawny halo
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Still got my day 1 switch, still going strong but stays docked. But oled for everything else.

signal tinsel
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I even got a Odin 2 to hold me over with switch games and that also collects dust now

proper bear
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I'm fine with dust collecting as long as I feel like I got my $/hr entertainment out of it

signal tinsel
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Fair

stuck viper
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thatll be a big part to move me over the needle, but since it seems like it wont actually come out until June ill be in a position to buy it at launch if scalpers dont ruin everything

signal tinsel
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Half my collection I bought is unplayed lol

proper bear
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Haha. Yeah. That's where the regrets come in

signal tinsel
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Yea..

stuck viper
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but since they ALREADY started manufacturing back in September

stuck viper
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i think scalpers are gonna get clowned on

proper bear
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That said my steam backlog makes everything else looks ok 😆

signal tinsel
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I don’t think scalping should be an issue tbh this time around

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Unless you’re in certain Asian countries

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Or don’t have an official Nintendo presence

stuck viper
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honestly ill say it MK9 doesnt look like that huge of a graphic upgrade from 8

proper bear
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I don't remember scalping being that bad with the first launch. Feel like they made a metric shit ton

stuck viper
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but maybe were seeing the limit of just the mario artstyle at this point

high barn
clever geyser
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Going to sell my ps5 asap ready for it

proper bear
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I'm just sad all the launch parties are multiple states away 😭

leaden kiln
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Nintendo is confident that they would not run out of stock

signal tinsel
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Ill be also surprised that places won’t limit to 1 per customer

proper bear
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Well experiences*

stuck viper
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scalpers are the scum of the earth im just gonna be real

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they know what they are doing is shitty

signal tinsel
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Facts

proper bear
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They're total shit for sure. But as the wealth gap increases people be struggling. I guess it's better than robbing people? Lol

high barn
stuck viper
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and i dont want to hear "oh its tough out there now gotta hustle to get by" nah the only people who can afford to buy a wall of consoles are already loaded

tawny halo
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Nintendo is still like Donkey Kong out today btw

proper bear
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I could afford to buy a wall of consoles. If just skip my mortgage for a while

signal tinsel
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I’m sad (not really) that the switch 2 isn’t called NEW Nintendo Switch HAha

stuck viper
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cant wait for switch 2 pro rumors

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i wonder if well actually get a pro this time

proper bear
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Could pull an apple and just not even have new in there

leaden kiln
high barn
signal tinsel
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NEW 3DS

high barn
stuck viper
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i fully believe the original Switch Pro / New Nintendo Switch was just scrapped from the chip shortage

leaden kiln
signal tinsel
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Do you wanna buy a new NEW 3DS XL? reallyfunny

proper bear
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God. We're so consumer conditioned to expect a "pro" version of everything

leaden kiln
signal tinsel
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I never understood that naming decision

proper bear
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Can't wait for my RP5 pro tho....

high barn
signal tinsel
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I saw super floating around

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They went simple this time

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Good job whoever’s in charge

proper bear
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Not gonna lie. That's kinda fire tho. Imagine if it launched in SNES colors

leaden kiln
high barn
proper bear
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Japan and that guy have a weird relationship as is. So probably best not to 😆

signal tinsel
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I’m sad it isn’t OLED day 1

proper bear
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I'm hoping that means $300 tho

leaden kiln
signal tinsel
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I get a funny feeling it’ll be $400 starting

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Ye

leaden kiln
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Which its still cool

proper bear
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Rumors in other currency only put it at $328 usd

high barn
stuck viper
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honeslty im REALLY hyped for the switch 2 lite

proper bear
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Yeah. I'd be shocked at $400. It's a console Nintendo really wants you to buy one of for each of your 5 kids

stuck viper
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itd be crazy if they got it down to like the size of the original switch but with the switch 2 hardware inside

high barn
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The Switch OLED would possibly drop in price as well.

stuck viper
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299 switch 2 lite

leaden kiln
iron apex
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400 for Oled would be fair

signal tinsel
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Did they stop production on switch oled?

proper bear
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Honestly it's ok. I just picked up an Odin 2 mini. I'm fine with not buying anything from Nintendo til holiday bundles

iron apex
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Especially since the games will already be be more expensive

stuck viper
iron apex
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70-80 I’ve heard

proper bear
leaden kiln
signal tinsel
leaden kiln
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70 to 80 is crazy

iron apex
signal tinsel
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I’m kind of afraid on the chip