Kinhank K56/K560

[coarse tartan]

People were hating on the orange and black color of the Halegaly Action Pi, but if I get the k56 I will also get those colors (people say it's halloween but to me it reminds me of the baseball team Orioles). Does the plastic feel cheap?? Are the buttons nice to press??

[teal whale]

it just dont look that cheap

idk about materials

[coarse tartan]

Good to know. The x55 to me looked very cheap on the images, but in person I really like it. Hope it's similar.

[polar parrot]

It’s ok they won’t sway them with colors 🤣

#1281271891293634560 message

[little perch]

Hopefully not unless they lied because it was sitting in Chicago for a few days before May 2nd

It literally went from Chicago sitting there a few days on Friday and arrived in Los Angeles on Sunday instead of coming to Dallas like it normally would and then to me

[polar parrot]

I’ve experienced something similar before with UPS I got a package that went from china to hk to singapore to my country and back to singapore then came back to my country again 🤣

[little perch]

That's wild

[polar parrot]

I was like wtf did they forgot to take my package out 🤣

[little perch]

Well hopefully they don't try to charge any tariff because it was in the US before May 2nd her all the tracking information

[coarse tartan]

Most colors look good. The colored joystick ads a bit to it, but I will cover ot with a cap anyway if I get it. Would love to see the action pi next to the k56 in both in black orange.

[polar parrot]

I really wanted the creamy white so I didn’t get that on black orange🤣

Comparison with the e6 would be awesome

[sleek hawk]

https://youtu.be/93H3a7J2_4A

[coarse tartan]

Yeah cream white looks like the most premium of the colors. I also like it.

[polar parrot]

I wonder if that firmware is newer than what I have. I have a different boot “helegale”

[coarse tartan]

Plastic seem better on close cam

[glossy spire]

welcome...
to the t618 apocalypse.

[teal whale]

it should perform the same to t618 in most cases, bc it cpu detent (ps2/gc) for 1x should be enough power (it has less gpu)

[sleek hawk]

From GameMT consoles, have only latest E6 Max to compare 😅

[polar parrot]

E6 plus plastic vs this 😄

I think they’re the same

[teal whale]

pretty sure gamemt has better, bet

[teal whale]

can u run benchmarks? 😀

3dmark wild life extreme / geekbench 6

[sleek hawk]

Will try later:)

[teal whale]

teardown also? (want to see how they used the space) wonder how heat sink will perform

[glossy spire]

ah, the e6max, my beloved

you already know what to expect from a t618. it'll just have a spreader box over the cpu and ram to distribute the heat. same goes for a527.

[gentle pelican]

That's unfortunate.. I think the same thing happened with my order as well.. I'm happy wait a bit longer. Looks like @sleek hawk got their Unit!

[gentle pelican]

Is that a modded es-de APK

Or is it legit? I purchased es-de already but that's noice

[zinc wigeon]

I suspect modded

you don’t think a company like kinhank respects ip do you

[gentle pelican]

Nope!

[zinc wigeon]

man I hoped you said yes so I could sell you on a ginger cat

[gentle pelican]

I'll be putting my own legit apks on there after I remove all the bloats. But it is interesting to see that. Might be nice for those not wanting to pay.

[zinc wigeon]

good kitty

[sleek hawk]

Looks like:)

[gentle pelican]

Nice... lol a reversed ambidextrous controller layout.. Lazy AI images?

[zinc wigeon]

If it is, it’s not very obvious

[gentle pelican]

Reminds me of stuff like this

Where the consoles look all jacked up or layout is funky

[sleek hawk]

Geekbench 6 test results: singlecore similar to sd845, multicore/gpu/vulkan similar to sd835

In singlecore scores, better than any t618 console

[bleak lion]

the cheapest of the bunch is so much cuter hehe

[sleek hawk]

Yeah, E6 Max is special guest here 😅👍

[bleak lion]

just pulled the trigger on the e6 max, this picture convinced me to get the black as well

😍

[gentle pelican]

K560?

[polar parrot]

Nah just showing difference of retail unit with helegale unit

[gentle pelican]

I was going to say haha. 1 says Helegale the other k56

[torn ginkgo]

Too bad they didn't respect the author's intellectual property and put their own logo on it

[polar parrot]

When has that stopped anyone from china

ever

[fresh birch]

So is the K560 also being released under the Kinhank name or will be Helegaly branded?

[polar parrot]

It's already released as a kinhank

[fresh birch]

Oh, I thought it was only the K56 out at this point.

[crisp zodiac]

But is g99 version still coming?

[gentle pelican]

It released? Wtf when?

[sleek hawk]

K56=K560

[gentle pelican]

With the G99?

[sleek hawk]

No, g99 r.i.p.

[teal whale]

wwwwwwhhhhhhat

how

that 100% info?

[sleek hawk]

No, not 100%, better ask @polar parrot to confirm:)

[teal whale]

phew

[coarse tartan]

Maybe Kinhank didnt want 2 deveices and Halegaly will repakage the G99 handheld with a different branding. Who knows.

[teal whale]

sound not bad

[uncut hamlet]

Can you please make some Android Gaming videos. Maybe showcase Pascals Wager, Bright Memory, and Bright Memory Infinite.

[uncut hamlet]

They're no longer selling the Helio G99 version!?

[uncut hamlet]

@sleek hawk I was talking about on your YouTube channel. 😏

[sleek hawk]

I know:)
Will do it later

[novel ridge]

I just don’t like the color. If it was all white like the Ayaneo then we would be talking but imma probs pass on this one. I do like the E6 max color schemes

[polar parrot]

Well you know why the color scheme is like that

[teal whale]

When g99

[gentle pelican]

[coarse tartan]

https://youtu.be/3hYYNwOFCFc?si=3Y6oTyqy-sC8yqWX

[teal whale]

Still no benchmarks :/

[teal whale]

yeay

wild life extreme and geek6 gpu pls

[sleek hawk]

Extreme not supported, sorry

[teal whale]

yikes

[teal whale]

that sick

even 2s support it (T610)

[teal whale]

saved

[sleek hawk]

Maybe have bad version of benchmark

[teal whale]

135 btw 💪

[sleek hawk]

Failed to run antutu 3d, instead of test it's starting stock citra emulator

[teal whale]

weird

[sleek hawk]

So forced to uninstall stock citra to make that test

[teal whale]

outsource firmware

be like

[polar parrot]

It's normal. They installed Citra Antutu

Unless you don't know about citra antutu

[teal whale]

wait a minute, how it score same us t618 o_O

with weaker gpu

lol

[polar parrot]

then the test is not gpu bound that's all

[teal whale]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-wizard-magic-cat-cat-gun-wizard-cat-gun-gif-148393908921163254

maybe

[polar parrot]

probably just cpu

[polar parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/habemus-papa-habemus-papam-papa-vaticano-finalmente-gif-1705550878307279997

[teal whale]

well, somone should compare in emulation them ...

with exact same settings

[sleek hawk]

In azahar, mario land 3d runs smoothly in fullspeed 60fps

[teal whale]

u dont have t618?

i dont remember

[sleek hawk]

Used it only few years ago, but 3ds emulation at that time was little bit worse😅

[teal whale]

fuck, alr say me heavy game and ill test myself on rg405

to compare

[sleek hawk]

You can try Re revelations

[teal whale]

Yikes 2.5gb, alr ... go

[stark sigil]

Hi @sleek hawk

Can you test if the usb C can be used to plug the kinhank k56 to a TV . Thtough a dock or a usb c to hdmi cable ?

Thanks in advance

[teal whale]

alr im back ... @sleek hawk what settings?

[sleek hawk]

For Azahar?

[teal whale]

yh for RE

[sleek hawk]

Tested it with vulkan and with that new red eye option

[teal whale]

alr

1x?

[sleek hawk]

Nothing special there with other settings, no any other hacks😅

[sleek hawk]

Yes

[teal whale]

uh my eyes ...

freezing

30 fps to 15, on first location

unplayable

30, 20, 10, 15 every drop fps couse hard stutter for second
speed 100, 80, 100, 60

@sleek hawk u sure that u use stock settings?)

and every time when i shot freez too 😄 when open door fps down to 10 for second, and now 20 😄

[sleek hawk]

x1, vulkan and red eye option only, re wasn't full speed, and may be similar to yours results. To make it clear, try mario land 3d

[teal whale]

mine totaly unplayable

uh mario, k

[sleek hawk]

RE

[sleek hawk]

😲

It can't be

[teal whale]

sarcasm -_-

300mb o_O

tf

[sleek hawk]

You can try demo version of marioland3d😉

[teal whale]

mine just crushing

wtf

with open gl it loaded

[sleek hawk]

You can't start it with vulkan? What version of android there? Is it gammaos?

[teal whale]

gamma

yh vulcan crush on menu

50 fps

with stutters

[sleek hawk]

What about other 3ds games with vulkan?

[teal whale]

i didnt play any, those 2 i download to compare only

[sleek hawk]

And any won't start with vulkan? 🤔

[teal whale]

RE works

damn red eye drop performance

alr stable 60

[teal whale]

freez to 30

[sleek hawk]

Nano assault, supposed to play smooth

[teal whale]

loaded with vulcan by save and freez in 1 fps

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-goat-baby-animal-baby-farm-animal-baby-goat-baby-goat-leap-gif-17646777900619830672

seems like vulcan broken on my gpu in azahar

[sleek hawk]

You can't switch to stock to try vulkan there? 🤔

[teal whale]

?

where

stock anbernic firmware?

[sleek hawk]

Yeah

[teal whale]

never

check ur open gl version in aida

mine 3.2 v1

[teal whale]

and vulcan 1.1.149

Hardware Capability Viewer app

[teal whale]

62? O_o

[sleek hawk]

🤷‍♂️

[sleek hawk]

1.3.225

[teal whale]

WTF

[teal whale]

@sleek hawk download dolphin ishiiruka

time to test most wanted

seems like it will outperform just bc of drivers

even with weaker gpu

alr, with Citra mario work way better, and works even with vulcan

stutters exist still for second, but way less, 60 fps avg, maybe playable

[sleek hawk]

Ishiruka can't see my rvz games, so testing mmj, all smooth

[teal whale]

u lose allot of performance

u can swap rvz to iso

easy convert

[sleek hawk]

Who cares if it's 60fps anyway

[teal whale]

try something realy heavy 🙂 and u will see and feel difference at first 10 sec

[sleek hawk]

Most important, that wind waker runs like mad there😅

[little perch]

Mine is out for delivery

[gentle pelican]

I have the worst luck....... @little perch

It works but I'm so upset..

[little perch]

Dang man

[gentle pelican]

I always inspect the screens first for light bleed and dead pixels.. It's a pet peeve of mine

[little perch]

Is it lifting out too ?

[gentle pelican]

I didn't even get that far

There's a big gap on the right side

[little perch]

I couldn't tell from the angle it looked like the screen was starting to lift out but yeah man mine so far is good I don't have any issues

[gentle pelican]

As opposed to the left

[little perch]

Yeah mine's not like that

[zinc wigeon]

didn't aeolus' pre-market unit have the same issue?

[gentle pelican]

I sent Kinhank a message on Ali but I don't know how good they are getting back

[little perch]

This is the first Android handheld I've ever had that's completely set up like it has emulation station completely set up and themed on scraped and then it also has Pegasus set up and screened

[gentle pelican]

Same

[zinc wigeon]

wasn't the mini 28 completely set up?

breeze_nice_computer_can_i_have_

[gentle pelican]

I've turned my unit on and messed around with it a little bit and everything works fine and I'm thoroughly impressed with the setup of everything. But the screen issue is kind of bugging me

[little perch]

Hopefully they replace or give partial refund

[little perch]

Oh snap you are right.

[zinc wigeon]

or they send a replacement screen with a cat repair technician

breeze_flippingout

screen replacements are hard but not when they come with a cat

[gentle pelican]

I hate that with android though

I'd rather take a partial refund since it isn't quite up to par. I'll let y'all know what they say

[gentle pelican]

You're right. @polar parrot had the same issue same corner in fact.

[zinc wigeon]

kekw_nervous

helegaly has problems in the lamination factory

[gentle pelican]

Still no replies..

[gentle pelican]

Is there any upside or mods or extras to ES-DE K vs. the official ES-DE? I'm not sure I've noticed anything different

[polar parrot]

I think that's a manufacturing issue. My engineering sample is the same.

I ignored it because it's an engineering sample didn't know it happened with the release units.

[gentle pelican]

I mean, I think it's safe to say most people had the same understanding. Prototypes are full of flaws sometimes.

I'm kind of wondering what the thinking behind this was tho. (Picture)
The warranty void sticker is on the back of the box cover.

Placing it on the box like this, serves no purpose.
Also, I thought this was an inspection sticker at first but after looking over everything there's no QC sticker anywhere.
And the warranty if damaged sticker shouldn't exist imo

[little perch]

interesting as mine has no such sticker

i got mine from their official website

[sleek hawk]

For Chinese consoles warranty sticker absolutely means nothing anyway

[zinc wigeon]

warranties these days:
warranty is void if a cat is found in the premises of your house

your handheld's "free" gift:

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

[gentle pelican]

Lmao true.. maybe over there it matters to themselves?

[gentle pelican]

Don't make make me get my boy Jake!

[zinc wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-scared-scaredcat-scared-cat-gif-7805744473386885099

[teal whale]

somone test something demading to compare with my t618 -_- (it has extremely outdated vulcan driver, so should lost, gamma os)

[gentle pelican]

Fast settings

Gow2

Nethersx2

Playable

[gentle pelican]

How's that?

[teal whale]

pal?

[gentle pelican]

Usa

[teal whale]

k

u can lock on 30 fps btw

and get ''smooth''

[gentle pelican]

I'll try that

Still cramming games on my card lol

I'll post some videos later for PS2 an GC

[teal whale]

u have most wanted? 😄

[gentle pelican]

Yes

[teal whale]

yeay

[gentle pelican]

And nfsu2

I wanna try some other racing games as well as juiced 2 and Gran Turismo 3 and 4

[teal whale]

dont have them

[gentle pelican]

Any other recommendations?

[teal whale]

wtf my nether gone

[gentle pelican]

[teal whale]

well, mw2005 most demanding game on gamecube and ps2 i believe

carbon a bit lighter

[gentle pelican]

Got it I'll add carbon to the list

[teal whale]

also black (fps)

u use build from site? or mod

[gentle pelican]

You mean the shooter black? Or most wanted black? Lol

[teal whale]

yh

shooter

[gentle pelican]

Ok

I'll have to find that.

On their site

[teal whale]

https://nethersx2.org/download/ ?

[gentle pelican]

I just threw in on

[teal whale]

alr gow loading ..

[gentle pelican]

Yeah. That's what I used. But if you want to be certain you can make the build on GitHub.

[teal whale]

yh ik

[gentle pelican]

All of my other devices I use the actual build. I figured on this one since I already have unwanted APKs on there I might as well try it

Here what it shows

[teal whale]

@gentle pelican same performance, nice

[fickle coral]

can you use video out via usb c?

also, what's the device like?
is it good?

[little perch]

https://youtu.be/rIHen0K6194

[teal whale]

oh

[fickle coral]

i swear if this device has a fatal flaw im crashing out

i already ordered it

time to watch the video

ok well they stole emulation station software, i am so shocked! How could they as well as stealing emulators and roms?

tbh, nah it is kind of worse

why change the name of emulation station, not their work

[gentle pelican]

NFS Carbon
VULKAN 1.5x
Mmjr 1.0-11505

[gentle pelican]

I'm super happy to report, Kinhank was able to give me a partial refund on my unit, because of the screen. Wasn't really willing to ship it back and wait again. So this works!

Customer service was pretty good.

[zinc wigeon]

[fickle coral]

Apart from the unfortunate screen issue, how do you like the device until now?

[gentle pelican]

I actually enjoy it a lot! This is my new favorite to tinker with settings.

[fickle coral]

Amazing to hear, can it play 3ds reasonably well? (Also ps2)

[gentle pelican]

About as good as the 405m.
Maybe a bit better.. I will post more videos through the night

[fickle coral]

By the way, have you tried playing cloud gaming on it?

[fickle coral]

Nice! I was worried it was going to be underperforming, but it seems really good for my use case

[gentle pelican]

I don't have the stablest of connections. So I haven't tried Xbox yet

[fickle coral]

Oh I see. Last question I have, sorry for spamming lol, does usb c video out work?

[gentle pelican]

I'll hook it up to ether and give it a go.

No video out unfortunately

[fickle coral]

Aw, that’s a bummer

Thank you so much for answering my questions btw, very helpful

Appreciate it!

[gentle pelican]

Everything just feels great on here tho. I'm not sure why it has a 62 Hertz screen but it is very clear and nice for an IPS

[fickle coral]

I bought the device today, expecting it soon

[gentle pelican]

Snappy too

[fickle coral]

Yeah I saw that, pretty weird

Why 62hz lol

[fickle coral]

I’m sure the 6gb of ram help 👀, it’s awesome to see a slightly better cpu paired with more ram

[gentle pelican]

Yeah it's like an upgraded 405 with 16:9 and more responsive

[fickle coral]

Btw, how does the plastic feel? Is it cheap? Or feels good?

[gentle pelican]

Feels great actually.

[fickle coral]

That’s awesome, I bought it at a way cheaper price too

[gentle pelican]

Very nice

[fickle coral]

Got mine for 140$cad, I think this was an amazing deal

Well, I’ll have to see once I have it

Thank you very much once again for answering my questions and being really helpful 🙏🏼

[gentle pelican]

The analog sticks are interesting too. They have a nice feel for small joys. Dpad feels like RP4

[fickle coral]

Yeah it looks like they have a grippy texture to them, looks good!

Does the software have any power mode options? For example, power saving or performance etc…

[crisp zodiac]

i believe they are: https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006962909317.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.51.73081c24wpOPzu&gatewayAdapt=glo2pol I used them on other handhelds and they are indeed very nice quality.

[teal whale]

Why mmjr and 1.5x? 🤨

[fickle coral]

So potentially, theses could be swapped with a different color for modding

I wonder if the buttons are generic too and can be swapped

[crisp zodiac]

Yes, they are like switch sticks so you can easily replace them if needed and you can use them on other handhelds as well (my RG40xxH below - huge advantage of using switch connection is that you can repair it easily):

[gentle pelican]

Seems to run that game the best. And I tried mmjr 2, mmjr 3, and the latest build of dolphin. And as I recall I used it a lot with my 405m with good results. 1.5x resolution because 2x was too much for Carbon. Even the other versions of dolphin that I tried wouldn't even run good at 1x

[gentle pelican]

What version should I try?

[teal whale]

best, ishiiruka v6

btw soon ill try carbon too

[gentle pelican]

Why the hell did I forget about that version

[teal whale]

u lose like 20% perfrormance

[gentle pelican]

I'll download it in a min a give that a go

Added some more orange lol

[gentle pelican]

Colored the little embossed accents lol

Yeah ishiiruka ftw.
HD res VULKAN

@teal whale

[teal whale]

🙂

what performance on carrer start?

[gentle pelican]

@teal whale career mode works good enough for me 🦾

Castlevania : Sotn Duckstation with shaders

.

[teal whale]

yikes less 20 fps o_o

try quick settings, most of them impact in performance (and depend what game can increase or decrease)

[teal whale]

@gentle pelican first challenge 25-30 fps

vulcan, 65%, 1x

[gentle pelican]

I know I fucked up the settings. Let me know what to change here. Lol it's been too long since I've even used dolphin or played GameCube.

[teal whale]

i tune only quick settings (hacks)

in game

@gentle pelican

• vulcan, 1x resolution, thats it for now

[fickle coral]

does it run at full 60fps now?

[teal whale]

its t618 ... u will probably have 60 with sn855 at least with turnip and gpu overclock

[gentle pelican]

Lmao. I need help. That's not working

I think I screwed up the other settings

[teal whale]

i guess ...

clean data on ishiiruka

[fickle coral]

Damn GameCube is that hard to emulate?

Well can it do 30fps?

[teal whale]

most heavy games at 60 fps yes

well, with this settings i have 25-30 fps AVG in races in carbon and most wanted

on t618 (rg405)

@gentle pelican good?

[fickle coral]

are those demanding games?

[teal whale]

most of

[fickle coral]

so, t620 should run demanding gamecube games at 25-30fps?

[teal whale]

most demanding yes

seems like ...

it perform like mine t618 (cpu close so)

[sleek hawk]

So after all tests and benchmarks to compare it with t618, what is your conclusion after all? 🤓

[teal whale]

well, need more games to test today, for now seems like, when cpu bound they are the same, if game need more gpu power t618 better

t620 will be great option for 80-90$ (105-110 cost rg505)

btw that shock for me, carbon can run this bad on t620, if this not settings issue

17-20 fps on start, when i have 27-30

[fickle coral]

Doesn't look like it's maxing out the cpu or gpu

Also, i was wondering, can you possibly provide overclocking in game testing as well?

Since the stock software doesn't have any performance modes

maybe that's why the performance might be subpar

[teal whale]

Gpu load 50%

Cpu too in carbon

T618 u cant overclock sadly

[fickle coral]

it's kind of good but also frustrating that they left android as stock as possible

[fickle coral]

i know there are performance modes on different handhelds though that have this chip

has to be a way to extract the maximum performance possible

[crisp zodiac]

I wonder if there's bigger gap between T620 and T618 with Retroid drivers (you remember they increased the performance after a few months after they worked on better drivers with Unisoc) - which were also implemented in GammaOS for T618

[sleek hawk]

Is 6gb of ram instead of 4gb on t618, doesn't really make any difference at all? 🤔

If it's not about emulation, but about android native gaming, it supposed to be better, as it have new android version and vulkan drivers.

[gentle pelican]

Less stuttering when not using screen record, sorry. Not able to use my normal setup.
I switched to PAL.
Also OpenGL was having better performance. Between 30-50.

Finally working better

No idea why vulkan is crap.. @sleek hawk @fickle coral @teal whale

[sleek hawk]

Mostwanted sucks, try asphalt xtreme to blow your mind!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.NGP.AsphaltXtreme

[teal whale]

Um what

I use gamma os and it has outdate vulcan

[teal whale]

Its not smooth, load not consistent

[sleek hawk]

#1177336131457646722 message

It plays unbelievably even on 1gb trimui smart pro🔥

Better than any mostwanted ps2 or gc

[teal whale]

When T620 have 1.3.5 ...

[teal whale]

Yes, if game need more

[sleek hawk]

Try on your t618 maiden of sker or bright memories

[teal whale]

Platform

[sleek hawk]

Android of course, or Windows if you want to run maid of sker with winlator on your t618

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WalesInteractive.MaidOfSker

[teal whale]

Nah

[sleek hawk]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.FYQD.BMI

[teal whale]

That game broken

[sleek hawk]

On t618? 🤔

[teal whale]

On every

[fickle coral]

Can someone try 3ds emulation?

I want to see if I can play Pokemon on this possibly

[sleek hawk]

Looks fine nothing broken, there is full walktrough gameplay on oppo smartphone:
https://youtu.be/mvFTbDbshPc

[teal whale]

Like 20 fps

[sleek hawk]

Depends on hardware😉

[teal whale]

Bright downloading...

[teal whale]

@sleek hawk max setting

[sleek hawk]

40 Fps? 🤔

[teal whale]

there yes, on start (before climb) 30

[sleek hawk]

Thanks, will try it later on k56 to compare👍

[polar parrot]

I have exactly that on my video

[gentle pelican]

Pokemon Supernova - 3ds hack
Azahar 1x

@fickle coral

Decent performance on Azahar native resolution.

[teal whale]

yikes

what are u testing

btw u tried MW @gentle pelican

or something else heavy on gamecube / ps2

atm tried open gl carbon, pain ... unstable load micro stutters in race (exact what u have)

[teal whale]

ps2

[gentle pelican]

Most Wanted Nethersx2 openGL 1x

VULKAN is about same

That is PS2 yes

[teal whale]

try carbon this race, i have avg 26-28 fps there, start on 20

vulcan should be, if wont stutters

[gentle pelican]

1 sec

[teal whale]

i have 99-100% load/speed full time

[gentle pelican]

I have to throw on sd

[teal whale]

internal*

sd can be problem too, if it cheap (not high classed)

[fickle coral]

Woah this looks really good

I mean occasional stutters are expected

But I thought it wouldn’t be really playable

Thank you 🙏🏼

When I get mine I hope to do a teardown 👀, perhaps this can give us more insight on this interesting device

[gentle pelican]

Please share close ups of ram and soc as well as any other feature that stand out.

[gentle pelican]

I can't get to that territory right now so this is what I have @teal whale

[teal whale]

damn, why u play ps2 version

17-20 fps racer

btw that was start area

ill try later ps2 version too

[gentle pelican]

Here you go @teal whale
Again, openGL is better
VULKAN is not working as good

This is USA version..
PAL will work better.

30-60fps for usa

Widescreen mode looks crisp

Recording with my phone doesn't look as good as in person. My camera sucks lol

[teal whale]

again stutturs ...

something with ur vulcan

u tried changing emulation speed?

[gentle pelican]

Yeah 65%, 70%, 75%

[teal whale]

🤔

[gentle pelican]

Maybe if someone else can test and compare

On another k56

Maybe just my unit

Anyway here's this!

I'm having more fun with all these old school gems lol

[sleek hawk]

Try this version

[gentle pelican]

Okay

[sleek hawk]

This version comes with some of cpu optimizations, but not sure if it will make here any difference in performance 😅

Worth to try anyway

[gentle pelican]

A tad better

Thanks

Tried to lock at 27

A lil stuttering

Does anyone have an updated compatibility settings list for the rg405m? That could probably be useful

And/or rp3 list?

[gentle pelican]

My collection lol

[teal whale]

yikes

[teal whale]

what settings?

[teal whale]

so its stock?

[gentle pelican]

Yeah basically

I changed a couple things like the lock

27hz

This is USA version again. PAL will be better

I just don't feel like paying for VPN right now to download it

[teal whale]

it will not, bc u cant reach 50

just put limit 25-30 in config

[gentle pelican]

Yeah

That's what I figured but I thought maybe PAL still might be better. But I don't wanna download it right now

[teal whale]

😄

[gentle pelican]

Lol

I'm having too much fun playing with this thing lol

I love the cave games and irem games and the fbn and mame games on here some I've only seen. Never played

[fickle coral]

You can try theses settings to potentially get games to run better: https://youtu.be/fmHGl2_By9Y?si=mZkIFXSTiI90qZ2L

[gentle pelican]

Gracias

[fickle coral]

EE cycle rate = -2 EE cycle skip = 1

Just keep in mind this will work for some games, some will just play the same either way

[fickle coral]

Np

[fickle coral]

Yessir

[gentle pelican]

Yea I remember there was some standard tweaks for most games just been a while since I've used a t618

[fickle coral]

If the previous games ran stock, with theses settings it is possible that they could play full 60 (depends which game tho)

[fickle coral]

Please ping me if you test the settings out 👀

[gentle pelican]

I tested that. framerate went down to 20 but speed was 100%
For some reason I like these setting better. It feels more responsive. @fickle coral @teal whale

[gentle pelican]

300% cycle rate
& (0) Skip

[teal whale]

🤔

[gentle pelican]

180% cycle rate works well too.
So this is technically overclocking, no?

I don't really understand what that does or is doing? @teal whale

[teal whale]

underclocking

slowdown

[gentle pelican]

So what's (-3) as opposed to (3) here? @fickle coral @teal whale

(0) is normal
Chillguy suggested (-2)
But I'm using (3)
Not (-3)

? This is what confuses me

[fickle coral]

So, you’re supposed to click 60%

[gentle pelican]

My understanding is that -2 or 60% would mean 60% of the frames..?
whereas 300% I don't know what that means

0 is 100

[fickle coral]

I don’t know in depth really, I just followed the vid

I think you’re right though

Base or 0 is 100%

[gentle pelican]

Yeah but I tried 60% and it's not effective like in the video

[fickle coral]

Try -2 (60%) in cycle rate and cycle skip try 1 (or 130%)

Ah

I see

So what’s the best settings

That you tried?

[gentle pelican]

180-300
(2) Or (3) on rate
0 skip

[fickle coral]

I want CFW like gamma os on this but it’s so unlikely I believe

[fickle coral]

Thank you, I’ll keep that saved once I receive mine

[gentle pelican]

That's what I'm saying. I think is has more potential.

[fickle coral]

Issue is, it doesn’t seem to have a lot of hype

Only two YouTubers reviewed it

[gentle pelican]

I know

[fickle coral]

I’ve found nothing else

On Reddit there’s 2-3 posts on it

Apart from that, we seem like the only people who are interested lol

[gentle pelican]

I love this thing man.it just makes me 😊 le how good it is out of the box

[fickle coral]

Either a big review channel reviews, gamma gets his hand on a dev unit or by magic people buy it on AliExpress

I wish this handheld doesn’t die

[gentle pelican]

I'm glad dead Fred did a video. I like his content

He makes things fun and mysterious

Shout-out to @little perch

[fickle coral]

Yeah I’m glad too, but the issue is that to be honest his channel doesn’t have enough reach unlike bigger channels like retro game corps or tech dweeb

I am really grateful he made a vid tho

[gentle pelican]

They are both Russ

[fickle coral]

Cuz any reach is going to help

[fickle coral]

😂

I remember I saw that April fools

[gentle pelican]

Lol

[fickle coral]

But then again

This handled is very new

When was it released

Like two weeks ago)

?

[gentle pelican]

Dweeb does cover that base left thumb where Russ has a Mole

[fickle coral]

Probably the people who ordered it don’t even have it yet, also on AliExpress it should take time to pickup traction

Only time will tell how good this device is going to be…

[gentle pelican]

Another problem is the price went up on it real quick I got mine for $115us

[fickle coral]

Yeah me I got it for 140$ cad

Under a 100USD, but for 150usd it’s just not worth it

[gentle pelican]

Also kinhank did hook me up because my screen lamination was screwed up. So they gave me a partial refund

[fickle coral]

Oh that’s good on their part

May I ask how much is a partial refund though?

Because I saw your screen had a good scratch on it

[gentle pelican]

It dropped my total to around 98

[fickle coral]

OK that’s not too bad

Still a bummer

[gentle pelican]

Yeah I definitely didn't want to have to send it back and wait

And really it's only noticeable when the screen is off

[fickle coral]

Look, I have a plan, if you want to participate in spreading awareness on this device and getting potentially a bigger community on it

[gentle pelican]

I have a touch of OCD, so it did bug me for a little while

Lol

[fickle coral]

I get you, a scratch would’ve made me go nuts for sure

[gentle pelican]

Sure you can dm me

[fickle coral]

Alright

[gentle pelican]

Anyone know why my average RAM usage is only 3 GB? This could explain a lot.
How the hell do I utilize more?

[zinc wigeon]

I haven’t used android in a long time, but I think in developer settings there is a menu that tells you what apps are using memory

[gentle pelican]

Early bird deal. I think there's a $15 off coupon on Ali right now as well for over $100. That brings the 64gb version to $113

[fickle coral]

https://youtu.be/tves7P-30d8?si=zlOiUoVewJvF-xFp

interesting

ps vita seems to run really well apart from the most demanding games

https://youtu.be/QrOQH1TiMUE?si=AU43_Z9ZOGbclUFj

lots of wii games as well

[gentle pelican]

I remember borderlands worked pretty good on 405m vita4k

K56 OS recovered with .pac

[polar parrot]

You dumped the fw?

[gentle pelican]

Nope. Kinhank gave me

[polar parrot]

Mine was ancient

[rare plume]

Oooh do you mind sharing? would make my life 100x easier if I wanted to pursue this device

[gentle pelican]

sent a dm @rare plume

[polar parrot]

I'll remind them to send you one 😄

They should've sent this first anyway since they refuse sharing sources for the Pi 😅

[gentle pelican]

Please do..!! I would love gamma on here!

[gentle pelican]

Just put gamma on my RG ARC-s actually! Definitely has new life now.. But i had to put it down for a little while to enjoy this handheld!

[sleek hawk]

Amazing gfx, low framrate, can be played anyway😅

[leaden pewter]

Half-Life 2 and Portal should run pretty good at their native resolutions, default settings

[sleek hawk]

Genshin

[fickle coral]

If you could it would be awesome man, big respect to you and your work 🙏🏼🫡

[sleek hawk]

Saltnsanctuary, yuzu

[gentle pelican]

Never played that

[gentle pelican]

Above 30fps? What res?

[gentle pelican]

what version of yuzu? or is it sudachi? can you share the apk please?

[fickle coral]

Now that you guys have had the T620 for a couple days, is it actually more powerful than a T618 device? If so, by how much?

[teal whale]

it weaker by gpu

[fickle coral]

Yeah sure, but overall performance? Since cpu does most of the heavy lifting i assume

[teal whale]

seems like +- the same

[fickle coral]

hm... i see

wth...

thats almost double

Why did unisoc do this

[haughty prism]

If you need/want power there's always the G99 model

[teal whale]

overpriced asf

since unicorn gone in global stores, and u can get for 130$ only on Taobao

[haughty prism]

Was talking about more power bur of course something with more performance generally cost more, not sure how much more as I haven't been keeping up as much as I should but it's a option either way

[teal whale]

nah that site suck

[abstract gorge]

I swear t620 version only available

[teal whale]

@fickle coral

@gentle pelican run vulcan geek 6 and 5

[fickle coral]

ah

[fickle coral]

what does this mean?

[teal whale]

-_-

u see there 74%?

[fickle coral]

oh sory

sorry

lmao

looks like the T620 is worse then

[teal whale]

like should be

weaker stats soc has

but newer drivers ...

t620 should cost like 90$ to be opportunity rg505

[fickle coral]

well its on sale rn, you can get one for about 110-120 usd

[teal whale]

that cringe

u can get 505 for 105-110

[abstract gorge]

It's actually cost 90 pounds in uk

[teal whale]

eh

[abstract gorge]

Then 505 around 87 in uk

[fickle coral]

rg505 lacks good screen, in terms of pixel density, controls are not great (no stacked shoulders)

even though yes it is oled and the darks wil be darker

[teal whale]

yup, but more powerful

[fickle coral]

but its a first gen oled

true

[teal whale]

not first

its not exist anymore like 2 years

or even more

[fickle coral]

ig

i bought the unisoc t620 in hopes it would be better in performance

[teal whale]

😄

[fickle coral]

eh it's fine though

[teal whale]

i told u it will not

[fickle coral]

in actual gameplay, there isn't much of a difference anyways

[teal whale]

depend in scenario

when gpu bound it will

if cpu slightly

[fickle coral]

i wonder though, does the 6gb of ram impact performance or pretty much the same as 4gb?

[teal whale]

nop

[fickle coral]

i see

anways, I can always tweak settings to make most ps2/3ds and gamecube games run ok (maybe 50-60% of the catalog) and then a small amount of wii

my plan is to use geforce on it lol and make it a cloud gaming device as well

some genshin impact, some cod mobile rarely

[teal whale]

u should get just rg cube for 130$

or used something good

[fickle coral]

im in canada

i bouight this for 140$cad, you cannot beat that

[teal whale]

;D

[fickle coral]

i mean on the used market

maybeee

https://youtu.be/2pSHm51WKhQ?si=K7JxDFOm9PcQx0Go

just found this vid, dubbed in english

[sleek hawk]

Paid around 90$ for k56, for that price I'm absolutely happy about it
It doesn't pay more today for t618 devices anyway☝️

[polar parrot]

And it comes preconfigured by kinhank

RG505 is a blank slate when you buy it 🤣

[sleek hawk]

On 4gb t618 devices with 4gb of ram, heavy games consume almost all available ram memory, and on k56 you have few gb on top 😅

Gamecube mario sunshine runs fullspeed, tried mmjr and ishiruka - no any difference in speed

[teal whale]

90$ great

[polar parrot]

I’ll wait for a sale then this will be a good buy

[teal whale]

when K560?

any info? or they just cancel it (most interesting handheld year tbh)

[sleek hawk]

Uninstalled stock ppsspp 1.16, and installed latest version. There is something wrong with psp emulation on this console 🤔

[teal whale]

oh, i forgot u have it ...

test geekbench 5 and 6 vulcan pls

[sleek hawk]

Tested it before long time ago, results somewhere in chat here😅

[teal whale]

also Hardware capability viewer, vulcan version driver

[sleek hawk]

Yes, posted picture before

[teal whale]

i see only cpu

[teal whale]

wonder how much Gamma will squize from it ... t618 get solid gain

[gentle pelican]

This

I wanna know if he can get some more juice out of the squeeze too.. lol

Sorry guys. I was in the ER/ICU for a while. Didn't have my devices with me. I was released today tho

[bleak lion]

glad you're well

[sleek hawk]

Your viewer is outdated as well 3.33 - > 4.01

[novel ridge]

Anyone try GeForce now or game pass on this? Just curious if the build in controller work?

[gentle pelican]

I tried fallout NV on game pass. Works good with a good connection.

[trim fiber]

oh my lord the screen on that looks horrific wtf

[polar parrot]

camera*

[teal whale]

It doesn't matter, driver will not change

[uncut hamlet]

Question: Do we have an unbricker for this Handheld? I want to try experimenting with Android.

[gentle pelican]

DM me your email.

I have .pac file and drivers and flashtool

[gentle pelican]

It's very scary when I cough up blood or vomit blood.. Especially when I've been sober from alcohol for 3 years.. I wouldn't have been able to do it without my support or without gaming as a big distraction to keep my mind off of it. I've had probably 10 upper endoscopies/banding procedures and 2 blood transfusions.. Been on the list for liver transplant..
It sucks, but at least I'm getting some help.

I still wear the name "WizkeyNik" or "VodkaNikolai" as a reminder of my past.

[zinc wigeon]

you know how they say people have two wolves inside of them?

surgically replace them with a cat

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

[gentle pelican]

Maybe your cat can give me part of its liver 😂

[zinc wigeon]

i just ran out of cats in the warehouse and i'm waiting for more shipments

[gentle pelican]

Okay.. so let's 3D print a liver using stem cells!

[zinc wigeon]

[gentle pelican]

Now all we need is a fetus

...

[zinc wigeon]

and a 3d printer

[gentle pelican]

And a pdf

[zinc wigeon]

[gentle pelican]

Not png lol

[zinc wigeon]

sometimes i curse the lord for making the world proprietary

why can't he document all of this shit on github

[gentle pelican]

Yes

And the Lord said, here's that .ini file you've been searching for

[zinc wigeon]

here's the .stl for a liver

[gentle pelican]

☠️

[polar parrot]

You'd need baby foreskin for that

[gentle pelican]

Man.. I need a new laptop. Organizing archives would probably be a lot easier with a touchscreen.

[zinc wigeon]

unfortunately the skincare industry bought the entire supply

[polar parrot]

That's easy. Make your own baby to get foreskin from

[gentle pelican]

[uncut hamlet]

Ku!!! 😎

[gentle pelican]

Cave games

MSX & MSX2

MD

[gentle pelican]

Massive arcade collection

[gentle pelican]

More... (Love the Pink Floyd bit track!)

[coarse tartan]

Only one unit a 100 euros

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EIhJgWA

[coarse tartan]

It's gone xD

[slow ferry]

Fast

[slow ferry]

How is the brightest in comparison to other devices?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mali-G52-MP2-vs-Mali-G57-MP2_10399_10691.247598.0.html kind of weird that you are having worse performance on t620 than t618, the GPU in all benchmark is better

https://www.notebookcheck.net/UNISOC-T7280-T620-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.930518.0.html vs https://www.notebookcheck.net/UNISOC-Tiger-T618-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.512251.0.html

[topaz walrus]

Does the usb c on this support display output?

[cloud bison]

If not you can get most android devices to support video out with a Windows program called Scrcpy. You might have to tweak settings because I tried it and video streaming was lagging

[cloud bison]

You can find special commands on Reddit to lock it to 30 or 60fps as well as turn the phone or device screen off and even change resolution

[violet nexus]

damn, there was like 7 sf2 champion edition boxarts

[slow ferry]

Some reviews say yes using a special USB C cable

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_okC2cU7

[gentle pelican]

Good to know..

Has anyone else noticed the over-sharpening on the k56

[gentle wolf]

[cloud bison]

If the prices I saw for this thing are real then it's really overpriced considering the Retroid Pocket 4 pro is $150

[gentle pelican]

It does have a bigger screen 5.5 > 4.7.
But not enough to justify the price tag right now. It was worth what I paid imo.
I got mine $115 when I first saw it on Ali before the tariffs and got a small added discount on top of that because my screen lamination wasn't perfect.

[cloud bison]

Hopefully it goes down in price, also maybe someone can send Gamma one to see if he can do something with it

[crisp zodiac]

@polar parrot Hey man, do you have any news about G99 version?

[polar parrot]

No news yet

[coarse tartan]

3 left

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQFmpaa

[river ice]

[balmy marten]

man back when we though this was gonna be under 100 bucks

[cloud bison]

Like I said, the Retroid Pocket 4 pro is $150. Anbernic's 6th generation android devices are around $160.

And people know and love both of those

There'd be an argument to get it at $100, maybe $120 if you're pushing it but this is disappointing

[mellow sphinx]

This exactly what makes me decided to skip this. I really like K56's design and color variants, but the fact that I need to spend 134$ for it seems doesn't make sense because there's RP4 pro as an option at 150$.

[cloud bison]

I've seen these go for $179

[slow ferry]

I tested the one yesterday and the screen look worse than a trimui smart pro it lack of saturation after that I dislike the l2 and r2 0 travel, for being kinhank first console is a good try it need better design and screen or better configuration

[cloud bison]

Second console

They had the K36 vertical clone console

And that's just if we're counting handhelds, they have a lot of Android box clone consoles and they sell Batocera drives filled with games to put on your computer

[gentle pelican]

K59 to come

[gentle pelican]

Lol maybe

[gentle pelican]

I actually love the screen on my unit. I have plenty of saturation. It's just not an OLED.

I only have a complaint with audio at around half output volume on some apps and no performance settings in pull down

I wish PS2 would play a little better too. But it works

[cloud bison]

It's a direct successor to the T618/T610.

That didn't play Ps2 the best either but I've been lucky to be able to play with minimal tweaking.

People should have been advertising those devices N64 and psp machines. A lot of people would have been way less disappointed

[coarse tartan]

By default it uses automatic contrast. I also though it lacked color, but when set to i "increased" it looks great

[polar parrot]

Yeah the audio is kinda lacking

[slow ferry]

Every configuration lack of saturation vs a trinui Smart pro, I don't have one to compare now but it is notable the lack of saturation.

[tired crown]

Isn't this console actually made by helegaly and kinhank just rebranded it in the end?

[cloud bison]

No clue

[polar parrot]

The first one was too

High chance the #1384572564482949130 would be as well

[tired crown]

Then would also that action pi console end up being rebranded for overseas into kinhank?

[polar parrot]

Nope

That's their solo project

[glossy spire]

glad this is making rounds, but man. the rg505 is topping it

[coarse tartan]

The helgaly version says t618

[cloud bison]

I thought it performed worse than the T618

[abstract gorge]

🙏🏾🙏🏾

I thought it was t620 nah

[cloud bison]

Screw it, I like the T618. It's still overpriced though

It has Android 14 too so that sucks

[coarse tartan]

Where did you read that? In the web spec says android 11.

But it also says 4.7 inch... while the pic says 5.5

[cloud bison]

I saw it in some reviews

Maybe those are different devices, that wouldn't be unheard of

[abstract gorge]

It would be andorid 11 t618 is old chip

[cloud bison]

The T618 can handle Android 12 at least

[coarse tartan]

Thw review probably were from the kinhank version, which surely is a t620 android 14

[cloud bison]

Oh ok

[coarse tartan]

This one might be the same but with wrong spec info

[cloud bison]

Gamma is working on the T618 devices again now so maybe it can handle Android 13.

I also saw someone put a build of Lineageos based on Android 15 on an Rg405m. There didn't seem to be any issues.

So it isn't completely out of the question

[polar parrot]

its t620, has android 14 and 6gb ram

probably copied over some other device specs

the retroid has t618 4.7 😆

3+

[versed obsidian]

https://youtu.be/0hefu3Hkcwk

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-sung-twrp-tupperware-remix-party-sung-gif-27060368

[polar parrot]

When the Action Pi starts shipping i'll ask about gamma's dev unit for this and status of K560

[crisp zodiac]

ZU, my dear mate, they are made by the same company 😄 just one is made for Kinhank and the other is released using their own brand - Helegaly

[polar parrot]

Yep my K56 has helegaly branding xD

[versed obsidian]

Mine doesn't

[floral shadow]

They dont they steal ES-DE apk and add splash.svg in the resource folder so it says whatever it wants. You can do it yourself with any svg and put it inside ES-DE\resources\graphics.

It will create problems later as ES-DE is updated and new features are added which means theme will crash until they "update"

[little perch]

That's describing the 405m

[coarse tartan]

It gives me k56 vibes but with the dpad on top.
https://youtu.be/Qibhx4xeTAM?si=Qf6SkyvFp4oPlLom

[river ice]

This is like 100x times better than the K56!

[coarse tartan]

I wouldnt say it's even 2x times better. It only has 4gb of ram, and I heard somewhere in this discord that android 14 needs 3gb (the k56 has 6gb). I only see the screen as clearly superior (higher res). Regaeding the cpu it doesnt seem too much better (but can't really tell)

[slow ferry]

In cellphone it may need 3gb because the Google services and the telephone service you can run a14 with 1.6gb

And for sure it have +2 of fake or extra ram, you are gonna just open one program at the time really multitasking in a console is kind of not really something useful

[coarse tartan]

Wasnt aware of that. But still, it gives k56 vibes, look at those triggers and shape xD

[leaden pewter]

Ghost of Sparta running great. Active cooling seems slightly overkill though, it being a low-midrange (for the time) 11nm chip but then again the A73 cores will run a little hotter

[leaden pewter]

Gamma should have that sorted in due time

But damn that screen

This'll wipe the floor with anything in its price point

[coarse tartan]

Do you know if he has any plans for the k56?

[leaden pewter]

Unsure

Looks like it should run quite a bit of 3DS aswell

Either way it's comfortably in the T610/P65/T618 ballpark

[slow ferry]

i was going to buy one to a friend that do reviews but he selled to other person

[leaden pewter]

ZRAM should help with ram usage

Like maybe a 2gb zram space should suffice

Rule of thumb is half the system memory is the sweet spot

Largest should be 75% of system memory

And use zstd to compress it, if the CPU is too slow use lzo

[frigid sparrow]

Does the K56 have a recovery mode

[slow ferry]

Yeah but, watch you wanna do?

[frigid sparrow]

I have a Lock Screen on that I can’t bypass

I’m trying to factory reset

[slow ferry]

Ufff

[slow ferry]

Mmm

https://youtu.be/Hc2-1QrR75g?si=lWJuwqd0nNQ_4qnI

You might need to do that

[frigid sparrow]

Tried it. It won’t work.

[slow ferry]

F

You might have luck asking to gamma

I don't know if a command of format via fastboot can work

[frigid sparrow]

I can’t get into fastboot

I tried to hold the volume buttons in different combinations nothing.

[slow ferry]

You might need to send a mail to kinhank they respond fast on their YouTube channel

[frigid sparrow]

Yep

[slow ferry]

Try with gamma on this discord it may help

[raven zephyr]

Does this start over with a clean slate? Meaning no emulators, front ends etc.

[slow ferry]

Yeah you lose all and if you don't do that you can't unlock

[frigid sparrow]

I got the flash to work. It reset everything but it works. All the preinstalled apps are on it.

[slow ferry]

Good you get worked

[haughty prism]

Is the G99 version anywhere to be seen and released yet ?

[slow ferry]

no that i know

[surreal basin]

Does anyone have a 128g model? I have an issue

[slow ferry]

All are 128gb internal you might have problem in the ad

[surreal basin]

sorry i meant the 128g SD card packed model,
I have a corrupt card that went bad 2/3 the way in my back up of it 🙁 and whats left on the old or files into new dont work, was looking for a backup, other brands have done in the past, like miyoo, but i cant seem to find a link (yeah i know this a not great thing to ask) happy to do pm if anyone knows.

[frigid sparrow]

Here your answer #1281271891293634560 message

[surreal basin]

yeah, this issue is the game sd, frimware is ok, its on emmc

[frigid sparrow]

Oops. My bad.

[surreal basin]

all good, that is a helpful link if the frimware goes sideways, i think i have a more "iffy" thing to ask for and might just have to suck it up, it sucks cos in reviews it seemed to be the best part of the machine, ah well.

[frigid sparrow]

All I can say is if you brought it from Kinhank, they do have a contact us on their website.

[surreal basin]

its from Ali, but ill give it a go

[frigid sparrow]

If it is Ali, contact them on Ali

They are going to ask about your order number.

[surreal basin]

yeah, looking into it now

[frigid sparrow]

I went there for help originally but I brought mine second hand and they asked for an order number.

They do have a discord but it’s very slow.

[slow ferry]

Ask to your vendor

[surreal basin]

Is this G99 still coming out or Dead at this stage? anyone know

[surreal basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-the-cycle-frontier-hop-on-the-cycle-frontier-gif-26888181

[haughty prism]

I asked the same not long ago but same response and have moved on at this point

[sly fog]

Does this have support for gammaos?

[polar parrot]

Not yet

[buoyant pelican]

@abstract blaze here apperently

[abstract blaze]

ok

[buoyant pelican]

still "upcoming", seems abandoned

[abstract blaze]

shuuut

[buoyant pelican]

https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-ums9230-vs-unisoc-tiger-t620/

[abstract blaze]

mmm...

[buoyant pelican]

The fact that I can't set it to 2.2Ghz seems to suggest it's not a t620 but indeed a ums9230 as you suggested

[abstract blaze]

bru android 13 haer :

and from this web site : https://handhelds.wiki/KinHank_K56 the soc is a T620 but whit a 720p screen ? it suport 1080p60Hrz

[buoyant pelican]

screen resolution is fine but missing 2.2ghz boost would suck

[abstract blaze]

CPU Octa-core A75[email protected]+A55[email protected]

[buoyant pelican]

won't be upscaling to 1080p on a device anyway

[abstract blaze]

[email protected]

[buoyant pelican]

Yeah, it says that. They also said full HD screen (1080p) when it's actually 720p or even a little bit less 😄

And now it looks like they downgraded the processor, too?

[abstract blaze]

The processor is: “Octa-core 2x :[email protected] and 6x [email protected]” bit. If you only have 1.8 GHz, that means that the two A75s are either inactive or have been removed.

[buoyant pelican]

I just saw it boost up to 2.2Ghz

So it does seem to be T620 - Unisoc UMS9230 doesn't go beyond 1.8Ghz

[abstract blaze]

yes it the T620 i think also

[buoyant pelican]

Core 7 & 8 seem to boost to 2.2Ghz

Tbf I just did a maxed out performance ingame test before and it seemed like a t618

so if it really was missing the 2.2Ghz boost I think it should have been noticeable

[abstract blaze]

but only the core 7 hup to 2.2 the core 8 dosoent go to the 2.2

[polar parrot]

because those are small cores

[abstract blaze]

yes both dosent go to the 2.2Ghz

[buoyant pelican]

still strange- and the recovery is definitely named ums9230 sth

[buoyant pelican]

both 7 & 8 seem to go up to 2.2Ghz

[abstract blaze]

ho ok

[buoyant pelican]

just like a T620 would

[polar parrot]

#1281271891293634560 message

[abstract blaze]

3 CPU in 1

[buoyant pelican]

you were right to be suspicious, @abstract blaze

[polar parrot]

because ums9230 is the internal name

[abstract blaze]

Don't just trust the appearance, check the specs too to see if it's true or false.

[buoyant pelican]

But also another variant 2 years older and without boost and other differences according to https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-ums9230-vs-unisoc-tiger-t620/

[abstract blaze]

so T620 is a T820 ?

4 in 1 bro

[polar parrot]

You believe those websites? 🤣

[abstract blaze]

not really but it a information

[polar parrot]

T620 internal name is UMS9230S not UMS9230

[buoyant pelican]

No, T620 ~=T618 , T820 is newer generation

hmm

[polar parrot]

UMS9230 is the older T606

[abstract blaze]

Yes, according to the Geekbench v6 website, both have a similar score.

how ?

[buoyant pelican]

Core 7 & 8 @ 2.2Ghz boost

[abstract blaze]

Good

[buoyant pelican]

A14, ~720p (?) , ums9230 build name

[abstract blaze]

Chek the krnel

And android vertions

[buoyant pelican]

Also display supposedly @ 62Hz ~ another thing Gamma would likely have a look at

[abstract blaze]

5.15.149-android13-8-00008-gbe074b05e5af-ab but you are on android 14 ? So why

[gentle pelican]

Is gamma going to pursue this device? I know he told me he before he was interested.

[abstract blaze]

I dont know

[buoyant pelican]

Yap, maybe they used an older kernel? Looks like proper A14 though

[polar parrot]

Android 13 kernel

[abstract blaze]

yes may not have known that Android 14 could run on an Android 13 Kernel

[polar parrot]

the board name being ums9230 is not helping them 🤣 anyway that can be set to whatever