#Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective

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shrewd wyvern
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Personally, I feel like the only one they really dropped the ball on was being able to keep memories from the death. I generally hate time travel, but they did a better job than average here

silk sierra
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Oh man, here’s where I show why my discord username is what it is

End game spoilers below
||so in the end sequence we see yellow haired guy released from a prison which can’t have existed - we were told it was built in response to “the manipulator” who doesn’t exist in this time line

We also see park protecting dude and bird scientist dude investigating the meteor but bird science dude can’t have found out about the meteor without pointy blond hair dying, and without him the government can’t have found out about the radiation, so they wouldn’t have come up with the plan of saying they’d build housing over the park which caused rock god man to leave his job

Also if the existence of Ray proves that those spirits with ghost trick powers exist even after their death has been reversed, shouldn’t the spirits of seissel, our missile and point haired dude still be inhabiting the earth (agree it’s not made explicitly clear that they’re not)

And also, in missile prime’s timeline, pointy haired dude oversees karmilla’s death which can’t make sense timewise, since his body would still be in the possession of the police, since Ray said they didn’t chance anything until the that night ||

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This is 100% my brain being picky and not something that will annoy anyone else

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Also the character eating chicken directly from the knife, disproportionately disgusted me. Again, me thing

hazy panther
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Like this game and the creativity of the writers

viral igloo
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to be incredibly honest I thought the game would have been better off without ||Ray and its explanation||

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Felt like they complicated things further only to explain a marginal plot point

surreal shale
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I like that the game has great pacing. The story is interesting and keeps you wanting more. I drop out of AA games because half the cases are nonsense to me

sonic scroll
# silk sierra Oh man, here’s where I show why my discord username is what it is End game spoi...

||ray's death was never reversed, he died in the timeline where sissel doesn't do anything and the events of the game don't happen. not the same timeline where you save missile. he went back and made a new timeline and then when he failed to avert yomiel's death he just stayed and hung out. so that's what would happen if sissel failed to avert someone's fate and then just kept going after that.||

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||the spirits go back to the future when they successfully avert a fate, ray shows what happens if they dont||

surreal shale
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True ||but is he need to explain that in the end. I know the game is just wrapping up all the characters. So there aren’t any questions. I like when a game leaves things a little more open. ||

silk sierra
shrewd wyvern
# silk sierra Oh man, here’s where I show why my discord username is what it is End game spoi...

Here's my belief on your points:
||1. That was just likely reusing assets and trying to create some parallelism. They could have built a similar prison for any number of reasons, or it could be any other prison with similar aesthetics.

  1. They could have at least seen the meteor shower in the sky and there was still a meteor impact, so he could have had a hobby of just wanting to investigate space rocks. As for them wanting to build houses, meh. Again, they could have found any reason to want to tear down the park.

  2. Yeah, old Missile still existing for a bit after the timeline change shouldn't happen. Just a way for them to give some final exposition.

  3. Hmm yeah. Actually, you're making me wonder why Yomiel wanted Lynne to kill him in the first place anyway. They wanted to kill Lynne there, and framing her for murder only makes sense if they didn't intend to kill her to begin with...||

silk sierra
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(And it honestly doesn’t matter, it ain’t a big thing)

tropic tendon
desert veldt
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Made it to Ch 11

scenic skiff
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Finished up myself yesterday, enjoyed it overall. Didn't think the second half was as good as the first though.

Was maybe expecting more of the rube goldberg machine scenarios, but still very much enjoyed the story, characters and animations. And it certainly didn't out stay it's welcome

tropic tendon
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Are there missable things in this?

surreal shale
sonic scroll
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yeah. theres also some brief bonus dialogue if you go to certain locations outside of main story order iirc (i didnt do any of that on this playthrough but i remember there being some on my first playthrough). but u cant like, lock yrself out of winning the game or anything lol its not that kind of adventure game

autumn heath
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Made it to chapter 8. Story progressing well - very interested to see how it goes. I do find the over the top animations a bit cringey but story and gameplay is engaging

tropic tendon
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stopping at chapter 12 for now

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the story is pretty engaging

soft summit
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Then it gets easier again.

haughty ice
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Starting chapter 10. ||I'm going to tape Lynne onto a wall so she can't get into further trouble.||

shrewd wyvern
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The wall would probably fall on her

chrome surge
tropic tendon
sonic scroll
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bailey is the best

nimble quiver
tropic tendon
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chapter 15.... WTF

sonic scroll
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i love inspector cabanela too. ||he's a really good red herring cuz his design and personality kinda remind me of a lot of AA culprits, so getting u to suspect him comes pretty easily||

lucid moat
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Just finished. Loved it

haughty ice
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At the beginning of chapter 14, there has been two instances where I've been audibly laughing with this game.
||First is when the suitcase opens and Kamila pops out reading magazine and drinking juice casually.||
||The second one just happened goodboy ||

wicked halo
haughty ice
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Man, chapter 15 was really tricky.

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I needed a guide to ||figure out where to find Missile. I thought I need to find him by possessing something he's in, but apparently just looking around was enough.||

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||Figuring out the trash can lid and the knit cap made me feel smart though.||

forest flower
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Finished. This will handily win DOTY

wicked halo
forest flower
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let's not go crazy

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it's got better gameplay than most puzzle games i've played but still

haughty ice
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That was great.

wicked halo
sonic scroll
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its also one of the newest gotx's we've ever done i think lol. 2010

wicked halo
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But extremely good!

haughty ice
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This game felt way shorter than 12 hours lol.

tropic tendon
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now I can read all the CIA FOIA shit

wicked halo
surreal shale
wicked halo
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I have 21 hours in it, but I always run very long on games.

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...Also actually I streamed it a bit for a friend of mine. To chapter 4 or 5 I think

viral igloo
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I enjoyed the game but I'd probably vote for metroid prime, despite me thinking it wasn't the best choice for retro handhelds

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The story in ghost trick was good but the puzzles were a bit too linear imo

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Gameplay was novel but I'm not sure I really was enjoying it 15 chapters in

sonic scroll
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yeah i wish it ramped up a little more puzzle-wise tbh. i think it would have helped if they introdced ||missile's abilities|| sooner or some more gameplay wrinkles

viral igloo
sonic scroll
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yeah. explains why the ending maybe feels a little rushed too

viral igloo
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Solving a puzzle felt like pressing all the buttons on a switchboard before quickly figuring out in what order you have to press the buttons

tropic tendon
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So... ||Yomiel|| is basically the Bill Murray from ||Groundhog Day we didn't get to see but that was referenced by the writers||

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that's my head canon on the last few chapters

olive horizon
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Excited to start this one tonight. Seems to be easily the favorite of the month.

sonic scroll
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i think you'll really like it, it's great

olive horizon
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I've wanted to play it forever, so very glad we got it in GOTX

wicked halo
desert veldt
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Just started Ch 15 ||I’m guessing we are the cat||

sage tiger
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Man I have been on the last chapter for 3 days and have not had the time to finish it

desert veldt
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||is ray a rat that ate one of the meteorite pieces the super was studying||

desert veldt
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Just started final chapter ||groan are we going to make it so that none of the events happened ||

sage tiger
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That game was a banger. Ending felt a hair contrived but I still enjoyed it and had an absolute blast playing through it

desert veldt
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Finished || Feel like Ray being Missile was more nostalgic than good writing. Also I like the time travel up to the end because it wasn’t rewriting time lines but rescuing people. That last one rewriting the whole story felt like dumbing down quality writing and simplifying a really unique and creative overall concept. ||

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Now time to go read the previous spoilers I skipped!

surreal shale
desert veldt
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I think the plot is left with a glaring hole: ||why can’t Yomiel have relationships and this why is he lonely? He literally builds relationship with Sessil and at the end with Lynne. So….why is he alone?Yomiel can only be sympathetic if he is ACTUALLY tormented with isolation and loneliness and BEFORE his crimson actions which murdering the wife doesn’t seem to fall in line with||

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I mean I did enjoy the game and if not for its darker tones would think my 8 year old son would have really enjoyed playing this as well.

surreal shale
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I think ||Yomiel is just written horribly. IMO like most AA bad guys. ||

desert veldt
# surreal shale I think ||Yomiel is just written horribly. IMO like most AA bad guys. ||

If he was actually || banished to complete isolation and loneliness except for a cat I could understand mental instability and if they then simply had a chapter where he was shown compassion and reminded of his humanity before is ‘transformation/redemption arc start’ in the sub it could actually make some sense. As I say though I do not understand why he’s isolated and alone other than his own choice. There’s nothing really that prevents him from moving town and starting a job… maybe he’s got to do that every 10 years cause he doesn’t age but…I don’t get the plot of how he’s drive ‘mad’ which is a crucial plot point||

surreal shale
desert veldt
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I did enjoy this game more with getting to play it together. Grateful to discover this discord and GotX. Glad to enjoy these games with you all.

tropic tendon
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it destroys the organic discovery and conversation of GOTX

sonic scroll
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yeah this has been a fun thread to watch

olive horizon
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This game rules, interesting gameplay and a very compelling story so far!

wicked halo
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It's going to be on the short list for GotY contenders for sure

surreal shale
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Is should win at least one category. Hopefully it wins over all. Haven’t really played anything to take it over. Maybe Metroid 2

olive horizon
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Just started Chapter 5, a little confused here at the beginning so as good a stopping place as any for the night!

viral igloo
forest flower
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There's a french 3ds games with kinda similar gameplay I checked out a while ago. Pretty obscure, doesn't have an hltb

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Need to see if it's worth the hassle to nominate it

wicked halo
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We all know that the biggest plot hole in this game is that ||Sissel's phone travel power supposedly doesn't work in fate change attempts, and the entire game happened nested inside of Ray's initial fate change attempt||

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||Maybe it's only in fate change attempts that are actually, like, fate change attempts to Sissel and that him just existing in the same timeline isn't the same thing, but still||

olive horizon
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Just made it through Chapter 8, ||getting Jowd out of the cell block was actually quite hard. First time I had to look up what to do in a guide.||

jagged lily
surreal shale
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that was my first ||look at guide moment also||

jagged lily
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I never did look at a guide, but I definitely got exasperated and put the game away for a few hours after many failures.

scenic skiff
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I managed it in the end but not before || trying several different ways of punching people in the back of the head || which I'm sure it implied in one of the hints

silk sierra
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Yo, end of game spoiler and plot hole
||if your power is affecting inanimate objects and pointy blonde guys’s power is controlling people, does that mean that you’re responsible for the death of Jowl’s wife?||

autumn heath
shrewd wyvern
silk sierra
olive horizon
silk sierra
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You guys played too much MGS

sonic scroll
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Took me a moment to realise ||how acrobatic jowd is|| but then it wasn't too bad

shrewd wyvern
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I hope I never forget the image of him rolling in the air ducts

autumn heath
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Made it to chapter 11. Still continue to be engaged in storyline. More than any game this year

olive horizon
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And done! Very good game, glad to have gotten around to this one finally.

pseudo maple
olive horizon
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This one was easily the best of the three this month

jagged lily
surreal shale
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This and Advance Wars. I just played Advance Wars to death.

silk sierra
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my friends, all I'm gonna say is, if you like this, maybe you'll love Ace Attorney

surreal shale
high edge
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Ace Attorney was so 2022

jagged lily
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the puzzles in this make a lot more sense than many AA ones.

pseudo maple
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Absolutely. I didn't have to look up any guides for this puzzle game, which is usually what happens for me. If i did things wrong, the characters would give hints in the perfect way. Honestly it is a very delicate balance that they absolutely nailed

wicked halo
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(even if something else takes overall GotY for me I would probably put this one forward for Story of the Year)

tropic tendon
olive horizon
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The ending felt a little contrived, but other than that this game was a banger.

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||Oh, now he's a corpse, we can go back to four minutes before he died which happens to be 10 years ago aka let's retcon the whole thing.||

surreal shale
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That brother me also.

olive horizon
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||Also, Ray being an old Missle felt like it could've been cut out completely. Leave the ending as-is, but just show the lamp Ray bobbing at the end saying something like "Well done Sissel" and then slowly stop moving with no further explanation and I think I would've liked it more. That part especially felt very forced and really unnecessary.||

sonic scroll
shrewd wyvern
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It also really messes with the whole ||you have memories of previously dying|| thing

olive horizon
surreal shale
olive horizon
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Missile had the best energy of any character, just "I've no idea what's happening, but I'm a dog so I never do, so let's do this!" Really adorable.

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Every scene he was in was a delight

sonic scroll
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yeah lol. and it would be very easy for a character like that to become annoying but he never did

surreal shale
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Besides ||the ending where he is Ray||

olive horizon
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Agreed that the ||old Missle sprite was cute, but completely disliked that whole portion of the ending. Felt like the developers were just trying to tie up Ray and why he was there, when they could've easily just waved it off as "some ghost shit" and had him just disappear or something at the end and left it a bit open-ended as to who it was and why and I would've been fine with that.||

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||Making it be a previous Missle where Sissel was a dick left a plot hole Terrible already mentioned and added an additional layer to the overall story I felt wasn't necessary.||

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||Ray was just there to explain things to the player as Sissel, didn't think he needed to be wrapped into the story like that.||

jagged lily
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Yeah, I agree. Why || are the animals so smart? Missile seems like a great dog personality, but then after 10 years he’s super wise? And sissel naturally understands so many human things that missile doesn’t. Like phones and headphones and such.|| Doesn’t add up the more I think about it. I just need to stop and enjoy it for what it was. Still a joy to play.

autumn heath
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Up to Chapter 12 and this is sounding cliched but the story continues to be engaging and I am really interested to see how it plays out. I managed to get through Chapter 10 and 11 without needing to check a high-level guide

wicked halo
desert veldt
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I think Ray would have worked better if ||he had been a wise old rat who had happened to see many of the events who died near a meteor piece in the Supers office. || and I still hate ||that time travel went from a short rescue mission to let’s rewrite the fabric of time…||

blissful current
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I tried playing this on 3 devices this month but somehow now I’m on chapter 5 on the Miyoo Mini+ of all things and I’m really enjoying it. Great for the novel format, game is heating up.

tropic tendon
blissful current
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Deception!

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nimble quiver
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I love that he doesn't necessarily think she's fat, just that we can't know how skinny she actually is.

autumn heath
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Made it to chapter 14 this evening. This game for me will get my vote for a great story that keeps a player engaged

vast girder
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Am I the only one playing on switch ?

sonic scroll
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maybe honestly lol but i know some people played the remaster on pc handhelds, should be the same version

wicked halo
brittle cave
normal sleet
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I'm late to start this one. Question because I'm finding mixed results. How important is the touch screen in this? Could it play comfortably on thr new anbernic SP which doesn't have touch? Or should I splurge for the steam version?

short forum
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I'd say you should be fine without touch. Everything is mapped to the buttons.

wicked halo
normal sleet
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Looks like it's $15ish on key sites. Probably worth it but I wasnt sure if thr ds one was preferred

normal sleet
short forum
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I personally like the look of the DS version more, but audio is better on the re-release. Up to you!

surreal shale
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I brought the steam version and played the DS game. Gotta show support for a banger of a game.

sonic scroll
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DS version has full button support and second screen is used pretty sparingly (it gives good info so it's good to have a hotkey to swap but u definitely don't need both on screen at once)

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but personally I think the touch controls are better and feel pretty natural

lusty ore
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Lotta weird noses in this game.

nimble quiver
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I'm sure this has been asked, but if I enjoyed Ghost Trick, which other games might scratch the same itch?

short forum
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Phoenix Wright seems to be the consensus. Made by the same team at Capcom

sonic scroll
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all Japanese style adventure games with twisty plots

nimble quiver
sonic scroll
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Maybe 428: Shibuya scramble as well but that's more of a pure visual novel, no real gameplay in that

high edge
sonic scroll
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It's really good tho a little less... Tightly written than this lol

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characters go on long tangents about weird 1930s pseudoscience and the like lol

silk sierra
high edge
silk sierra
waxen nexus
olive horizon
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I went in with pretty high expectations and was still floored, just thought the ending could've been better.

forest flower
sonic scroll
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i mean some of them still yes lmaooooo

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||the whole ice-9 all-ice thing that they teased at the end and then backpedaled on in the sequel||

tropic tendon
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999 bad

sonic scroll
vast girder
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I am at chapter 6 and I still feel like it’s a tutorial .

nimble quiver
jagged lily
# vast girder I am at chapter 6 and I still feel like it’s a tutorial .

It never really stops? The game pretty continually introduces some new mechanics and gives hints enough that it can never really stop feeling like a tutorial. I don’t mean that as a negative though. Seems weird to say. The story should be picking up for you now though. But if that isn’t interesting you, the game just might not be for you. I stopped tapping in the top center speech bubbles. That at least stopped Sissels inner monologue hints and made it feel less tutorial like.

blissful current
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I’m on like chapter 16 and it suddenly dawned on me that Sissel would absolutely crush it as a frontman for a ska band.

vast girder
autumn heath
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Gotten past chapter 14 and 15 and had to consult a guide for some of the puzzles. Intrigued to see how this story ends

blissful current
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Same, there were I think 3 puzzles where I needed a guide. The || medicine bottle, the torpedo, and swapping the rugby ball. ||

olive horizon
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Same, I actually went nearly no guide on this one, which is rare for me with anything that's not GOTW

silk sierra
olive horizon
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I couldn't do medicine bottle or sideways submarine without looking it up, but the rest I was able to figure out.

silk sierra
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The one that stumped me for days was the ||bit where you have to wait for the stool to get pushed back then return before you can move it||

autumn heath
silk sierra
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I took the stance of “if I can’t solve it it’s because I’m missing something”

jagged lily
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And ||Joe’s escaping prison|| I only used a guide for the first one though.

olive horizon
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Oh yeah, I actually used a guide for ||the prison|| as well, good call

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I actually accidentally found the solution to ||the rugby ball|| early in that chapter ||because I went up the tree first thinking that's what I needed to do||

jagged lily
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I didn’t notice I could ||spin the cage thing||

olive horizon
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The ||prison, medicine, and sideways sub|| were all pretty difficult. The rest I could mostly figure out pretty quickly, though I took an embarrassingly long time figuring out ||how to drop the chandelier on Madam||

silk sierra
olive horizon
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Speaking of EU, I stumbled upon the EU cover for Ghost Trick while looking up songs (I like to download one song from every GOTM I've enjoyed and put it as BGM music on my Linux device's menu) and thought I'd share

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There're also a couple of neat custom covers out there for it

jagged lily
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The place where I live actually has a pretty high Polynesian population, so I can see rugby games going on on weekends just driving around.

silk sierra
blissful current
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I gotta say it’s fun going through this chat having completed the game and being able to click all the spoiler tags.

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It’s like opening Christmas gifts, except the gift is “oh, other people also thought this was bullshit”

vagrant fern
shrewd wyvern
vast girder
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Do we know when the story takes place . I would guess the 80s?

sonic scroll
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seems kind of anachronistic in general lol with some of the crazy technology combined with the lack of cell phones

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its also not really clear where it's set but it seemed more American than anything. not the japanifornia from ace attorney lol

vast girder
vast girder
jagged lily
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But, when the ||guy gets into the van, he does it from the passenger side, doesn’t he? || Can’t be the states.

vagrant fern
jagged lily
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Im sorry. I thought || you have to spoiler text something in every message|| in this thread.

vagrant fern
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I get it now, it was spoiled because || of tradition ||

jagged lily
vagrant fern
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I'm late to the conversation on a few things but wanted to give my 2 cents
|| 1) Yomiel is extremely bitter and angry and unable to start because his fiance (Sissel) either committed suicide or died while he was still in the cat
2) The intention seems to be that Sissel (the cat) was hit by the meteorite at the end and is not perpetually half dead and alive like Yomiel ||

vast girder
vagrant fern
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Handed in my completion, delayed finishing this up for too long

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Still as excellent as I remember, one of my favorite games of all time. I'm thrilled people enjoyed it

blissful current
vagrant fern
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It's the main reason that || there technically could be a direct sequel if they wanted to make one ||

wicked halo
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||Like, I actively want to get to play Sissel post-identity-reveal, and that we don't even get one level of that is one of the few things I dislike about this game||

silk sierra
vast girder
wicked halo
forest flower
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They also qualified for the Olympics which is Sevens rugby. It's way less popular so you really need a solid base of Union players to get a subset of them capable of having a Sevens team

tropic tendon
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WE WON'T FORGET YOU MISSILE

silk sierra
surreal shale
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best emote of the last two years

viral igloo
wicked halo
tropic tendon
wicked halo
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what I've learned is that sometimes when a bunch of people really like a game but can't tell me why it's good, that maybe I should just take the plunge and listen to them

silk sierra
viral igloo
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I still dislike Missile

tropic tendon
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WOAH

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Vote to ban @viral igloo .
A) Ban
B) They can stay

vagrant fern
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Missile has || committed murder || so we know he's ruthless enough to go for the ban

wicked halo
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OK but how can you dislike Missile

viral igloo
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Barks too much

tropic tendon
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But I am nothing if not merciful

surreal shale
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How Oudeis and Arnaud come off

viral igloo
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I like medium size and large dogs 😭

tropic tendon
surreal shale
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He barks to save his people. He is a god dam hero.

tropic tendon
viral igloo
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I love the custom name lmao

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Mod abuse

autumn heath
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And done. The ending I’m confused about and will need to watch a YouTube breakdown. Overall an enjoyable game with an engaging story

vagrant fern
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You could ask here as well

surreal shale
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^^^ Kind of the point. Of this cult Club

tropic tendon
autumn heath
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Haha true. Can anyone give me the tldr of the ending? Spoiler tags please

surreal shale
vagrant fern
# autumn heath Haha true. Can anyone give me the tldr of the ending? Spoiler tags please

|| Yomiel, Sissel and Missile go back to the day of Yomiel's death. They manage to redirect the meteorite, saving Yomiel but hitting Sissel, the cat, instead. Sissel ends up in the same state as Yomiel was buy is okay with it because he's a cat. It's also revealed that Ray was Missile from the past, who couldn't save Yomiel by himself and waited ten years to ask Sissel to help him. ||

blissful current
surreal shale
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Old ||Missile was kind of an asshole.||

blissful current
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Honestly if I can be ||manipulated by an old dog that is also a living lamp that’s kind of on me.||

surreal shale
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I just want to know ||how you make a lamp talk|| I guess he ||is in his head or talking like ghost|| I don't know kind of fuzzy on how that all worked.

blissful current
tropic tendon
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The real answer is that Japanese purgatory is super complicated because they killed all those missionaries during the 17th century and this is their punishment

surreal shale
tropic tendon
wicked halo
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https://youtu.be/RwvuZYuMsQs?si=ICs2U7eKw78PveME

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nimble quiver
autumn heath
vast girder
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Reached chapter 13. Am I at two thirds of the game or the chapters get longer ?

silk sierra
vast girder
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Thanks ! Maybe I can beat it today (if I skip work)

silk sierra
vast girder
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So if the rest are all long chapters I have no chance lol

silk sierra
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My apologies I thought you had just finished chapter 13, misunderstood

woeful creek
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I have to say, I had never played a game like this before and that's why I love this community for forcing me outside of my gaming comfort zone. Really enjoyed this game overall, especially the story beats.

wicked halo
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Yeah, I originally wasn't sold on this game. I like mascot platformers like Banjo-Kazooie, and so I wanted to do Conker

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and the Ghost Trick people obviously couldn't tell me much about the game

woeful creek
wicked halo
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but they were really passionate and I decided to just trust them and do something different, and I'm grateful that I did. this is easily the best GotX I've played this year

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I did not ultimately pull my vote from Conker because I gave my word and all that but I never said I wouldn't vote for Ghost Trick and thankfully it didn't come down to me having to make that decision

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That said, of course I'd like this game. It has the goodest boy in it and back in the Tokyo Jungle days I was a Pomeranian main

wicked halo
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spoilers

silk sierra
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Yeah would it be possible to spoiler tag this

tropic tendon
surreal shale
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Last day oh well.

vast girder
# wicked halo *spoilers*

Deleted the message . Spoiler tags don’t work on my phone . I really didn’t see it as a spoiler since it’s just discussing a mechanic of the game.

silk sierra
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Dude it’s a clear massive spoiler

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(Not a joke)

vast girder
silk sierra
vast girder
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/spoiler test

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||test||

silk sierra
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that works

vast girder
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||I still think “the missile swapping mechanic sucks” is not a spoiler .||

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||now I feel like a ghost for real||

silk sierra
# vast girder ||I still think “the missile swapping mechanic sucks” is not a spoiler .||

why it's a spoiler: ||you're making it clear that there is a new mechanic involving a specific character, so when there's a whole, "who's ghost is that" moment in the play ground it's spoilt, also you're talking about the character, who is at one point locked in a room, and another blown away, being present in the chapters you're playing (13?).

Something like the "additional ghost powers" or maybe even "swapping mechanic" wouldn't be a spoiler, but you're giving too much detail away for it to be anything other than a massive spoiler||

surreal shale
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It's the last day. Who cares if you just got to that part you're not going to make it. Next month I will use zero spoiler tags now.

silk sierra
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People be talking about this as a GOTY contender. If it wins any the thread would be seen by GOTY players (at least potentially)

But also I just think it’s polite

tropic tendon
sonic scroll
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Yeah unless people who played it just don't vote for it for whatever reason I think this is gonna win goty for something. Been a while since discussion about a gotm has been this positive tbh

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Even the people nitpicking the ending liked the game

wicked halo
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It deserves to beat the Metroids and Zelda for the top spot tbh. but even if it doesn't, I'd be surprised if it doesn't get story of the year instead

vast girder
sonic scroll
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You aren't lol

vast girder
sonic scroll
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I kind of like it but I've played lots of similar games and understand the balancing act and the options available.

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Like idk the game has a mix of lighthearted tone and dark subject matter, the ending matches the tone not the subject matter. But if it was vice versa people would also complain

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||yomiel's redemption|| is contrived but also I wouldn't want it to end with ||sissel staying dead forever||

vast girder
sonic scroll
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I mean the game sets that up real early so I don't mind it in terms of the ending

vast girder
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But tbh I think i don’t understand the story ver well . Has a link to a good summary been shared ?

vagrant fern
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I don't think there's a link so far

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If there's anything you don't get someone can probably explain it though

vast girder
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I’m sure I’ll find it in the posts .

vagrant fern
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I did a tldr of the ending a little ago

vast girder
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But I’ll have to click on all those spoiler tags mariodead

vagrant fern
vast girder
vagrant fern
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Too long didn't read. Internet slang for summary

vast girder
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I always read everything so I got pretty much all of that . But it makes me realize what I am missing :

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||why is the state yomiel was in that bad ?||

vagrant fern
# vast girder ||why is the state yomiel was in that bad ?||

|| this was asked a few times, and it's slightly confusing, but I don't believe it's the state itself that's too bad (immortality can be bad though) it's that he lost his memory and conscious for years, and when he regained then, his fiance had killed herself, everyone basically had forgotten about his existence and he was a nobody man ||

vast girder
vagrant fern
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I saw a few people here missed it, though because of the target audience of the game, they do dance around it a bit

surreal shale
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Why are people still commenting here?

vast girder
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Isn’t it the place for it ? Since flashback channel is closing

surreal shale
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Wish these were closed at the end of the month like. The rumor mill. My end of the year suggestion