PowKiddy V10

[gritty iris]

Image source: https://www.bilibili.com/opus/941310020978475033

If the speaker grille is hiding a speaker that Miyoo Mini users are probably familiar with, then applying the proportions - by eyeing everything - seems to give us a 2.8" screen.

If speaker width were 0.65"

The screen width is roughly a bit more than 3 times the speaker width

Unspecified Powkiddy small vertical handheld

I know it's absolutely buck wild to just guess random numbers, but come on, companies like these love picking up from the common parts bin

[sudden plover]

Looks like a 4:3 screen

[meager fulcrum]

GOD IF ONLY IT WAS 1:1

COME ON POWKIDDY YOU'RE THIS CLOSE

[outer heart]

That's just a 280v

[meager fulcrum]

a 280v without the fuckass screen would be nice

[boreal rune]

Looks very cute!

[spiral lion]

Looks just like my gkd mini+

[polar timber]

looks like shoulders on the back unlike a 280v tho.

Which might be weird given how short it is

[hallow ore]

Over under on this being a good handheld with the 480p screen anbernic and miyoo found recently vs being an e-waste handheld with some ancient 280v screen?

[meager fulcrum]

I love mine but the screen always looks so odd because of the half height pixels

[hallow ore]

… are those volume buttons on the device face?

[polar timber]

i guess lol

[outer heart]

The screen definitely looks like a different size than the 280v, I'll say that much

[rugged wharf]

this looks so goofy

[gritty iris]

Some handhelds actually went there

Though maybe they can be repurposed, unless there is no other buttons for volume

rgb10max had 2 fuction hotkeys apparently

[exotic warren]

@vital mortar is the mystery powkiddy making to the podcast discussion tonight?

[gritty iris]

I don't recommend that at this point. We'll have to wait until there are some more sources to confirm their existence. At least, until someone like jdewitz has anything to say about it.

[vital mortar]

Oh dang, heh wasn't going to, but we can add it for speculation

@opaque notch what do you know about this one

is it real?

[polar timber]

im very interested in what chip this has if its real tbh. im eying an upgrade from my og miyoo mini in that size category and was thinking hard about a 28xx but i might wait and see how this and the magicx one pan out

[opaque notch]

I have a video and information about this one but I'm not allowed to release it

This is a real device that's all I can say for now

But it's not as mini as you think it is. It has the same screen as the other new device. 3.5 I think.

[opaque notch]

I think it's 3.5

[opaque notch]

Yep

[outer heart]

That makes sense, I was comparing the button distance on this and it's much farther apart than the 280v

[opaque notch]

This machine looks derp a little bit but I'm waiting to see the specs.

In the video the bezels are a bit big, but it could also be how the content was displayed

I've asked if I can share that just now

[vital mortar]

Awesome

Adding it last minute to the podcast

Thanks man!

[opaque notch]

Yeah you can put in there that im chasing down the info for this and that rgb10 refresh

Hu is up like 24/7 and has already replied 😂

[vital mortar]

added! 😄

[polar timber]

okay maybe it is just another 3566 then if its still a 3.5 inch screen. i kinda like a stickless 3566 tho

[opaque notch]

@vital mortar

Now, I don't know if those are bezels or what's going on

Video is ok to share

[polar timber]

is it a 3:2 screen????

and yeah idk what the chip is cuz thats just sf3, arcade version runs well on miyoo mini. but its probably 3566 anyway i think? idk tho

[opaque notch]

The name of this device will be the V10

[polar timber]

cuz 10 is more than 90 of course

[opaque notch]

Speculation: they are connecting two *10 devices. One horizontal and one vertical. The screen is the same 4:3 as the rgb10 refresh. likely same ship. I speculate it's a lower end to compete with those shitty clones, which would still put it on par with the mm+ and 35xx for most uses.

[polar timber]

4:3 with massive side bezels like that??? idk

but yeah youre right those look like hardware bezels not just screen being black

[opaque notch]

I think it looks derpy but only because the others have been basically bezel-less. But that wasn't always the case.

Just we've had a lot of zero-ish bezel lately

[polar timber]

yeah i mean the shape overall might be comfy

and probably wont have the fraility issues og mm has

[opaque notch]

Apparently it looks dumb but is super nice to hold

[polar timber]

im a little concerned about how close the shoulders are to the buttons/dpad honestly but yeah i think the width would make it more comfy

[vital mortar]

thank you!! added thanks man

[outer heart]

If it's cheap it could be really cool

[golden cypress]

I like it!

[polar timber]

it does feel a little late honestly tho, where was this like a year or two ago when the verticals were all the rage

[steady barn]

Yeah, I can't imagine buying this over a 28xx, A30 or even an older Miyoo mini V2 which people have been selling lately. Maybe PowKiddy just wants a piece of that pie too

[hallow ore]

well this is a 3.5" I guess so it's competing with the 35xx+ and MM+

honestly I think it is gonna come down to price

[steady barn]

Ahh okay. Still think this can't really succeed unless they step up their build quality since I don't think it will undercut the 35XX going price of ~$50

[gritty iris]

WHAT THE HELL

[gritty iris]

No HDMI out but has USB IN? Interesting

Device width seems to be about 3.8" (or 11 x USB-C plug width)?

My RG35XX Plus is about 3.3" wide

So very likely this is a 3.5" display with side bezels

[gritty iris]

The competitiveness of these two things is just kinda weird, but maybe they could make them use the RK3326 and make them uber cheap to phase out Powkiddy's only Actions-based and Famiclone-based handhelds completely

[opaque notch]

Yeah USB in has been a thing on most. It's just an otg. If the chip supports docking they might implement it. I don't think it will do video out tho.

[opaque notch]

That's what I was told this is and have been trying to share with the group

[opaque notch]

I can only speculate that's what they want to do.

[primal jewel]

I mean, if it has WiFi support and a 3566, I can see a lot of people picking this up over a RG28xx or A30.

[gritty iris]

Stick-less on 3566 might be less of an advantage

[livid aspen]

lol this thing have the gb bezels

i wonder, why don't make a 1:1 version

[marble radish]

The bezels don't look as wide in that first preview image, could this be 3:2?

[near geode]

the return of the king 3:2

[vital mortar]

PowKiddy V10

[grizzled grove]

i was hoping this was the 20SX without the sticks. that is what I think would be a good seller.

[hallow ore]

waiting for someone to make a slim pocketable vert with the RPP 3.1" 720x720 since that project flopped

hoping that's the screen the #1095087578694299758 will use if it ever comes out

[outer heart]

I'm pretending the v90 was called that because the screen moved approximately 90 degrees

So this one will just have bad screen wobble

[meager fulcrum]

fuck, if it's 3:2, we might be talking

[hallow ore]

I dunno, if it’s 3:2 what are the X, Y, L2, and R2 for

[near geode]

All the PSX games

[left marsh]

RetroArch hotkeys

3:2 makes this niche enough for me to care about it.

[hallow ore]

What 3:2 psx games

[left marsh]

Bubsy 3:2

3:2xtreme

[near geode]

scales PSX games to 3:2 with duckstation just to piss off the perfect scaling fans

[vestal blaze]

Wide screen hacks on PS1?

[polar timber]

no all 3:2 devices must only run GBA or the pillarbox police will bust down yr door

[near geode]

They can come and get me

https://tenor.com/view/extended-mag-shotgun-gaming-reload-gif-21067761

[hallow ore]

The problem is until somebody makes a 720x480 screen all the 3:2 screens available have terrible resolutions for home consoles

[near geode]

still won't stop me from loving them

[polar timber]

the ayaneo ds uses a 960x640 screen for the bottom doesn't it?

[hallow ore]

I am 100% onboard with a modern 3:2 handheld that has a bad res for other systems as long as it’s cheap enough to dedicate as a gba only device for me and good at gba fwiw

[wary falcon]

Some Mega Drive games can probably play decently at 3:2 with gpgx-wide core

Is there a psx emulator you can add width column by column? I don't think so. But it would makes sense, as many games doesn't render polygons properly at the edges in 16:9

[strong pier]

So wait lemme get this straight

This is 3:2?

[polar timber]

not confirmed? probably not?

[ebon hawk]

16:9, 4:3 or 3:2

[jolly arch]

Idk why but this device just looks kinda cute. A lil squat lad.

[left marsh]

I think it's more likely to be 4:3 #1249641323020156989 message

[opaque notch]

Guys I have confirmed this ten times it's 4:3

Four by three

It's the same screen as the rgb10 refresh

Still no new info tho.

[near geode]

Darn

[golden cypress]

Hmm wonder if its 4:3

[hallow ore]

Looks 1:1 to me (sorry JD)

[gritty iris]

The top image showing the black screen is more than proof enough

If they decided to lie about it or hide it, that rectangle would be completely painted over

[midnight ledge]

It might be 4:3?

[wary falcon]

Could it be round?

[left marsh]

If you look at it from a certain angle, it might even pass for 3:4.

[grand veldt]

😍

WANT

[meager fulcrum]

damn 4:3, nevermind then lol

[polar timber]

idk it looks more like 16:12 to me

[ebon hawk]

Should have been brave and made it 16:10

[wary falcon]

there seem to be plenty 800x480 panels 5:3, I don't get why no one picked that one up yet

[hallow ore]

I was sick of 4:3 so I upgraded to 20:15 9 years ago

[gritty iris]

12:9 FTW, let's peacefully disagree

[hallow ore]

The lawful evil response: it’s 1.33:1

[gritty iris]

Academy ratio, for sure

[opaque notch]

https://powkiddy.com/blogs/news/travel-through-time-and-space-back-to-the-age-of-innocence-powkiddy-v10

[waxen turtle]

So not an rk3566 chip

It's an rk3326 right? At least from the CPU configuration

[polar timber]

wait so it is a 3:2 screen????

and yeah 3326. sounds like powkiddy trying to use up old rgb10/20 parts lol

[waxen turtle]

4:3

[austere compass]

...V10 is equipped with a 3.5-inch IPS OCA fully laminated display with a resolution of 480*320,....
sure doesnt sound like 4:3...

[marble radish]

3:2, called it

[austere compass]

if its cheap enough it might do as a dedicated gba machine

[waxen turtle]

Oh yeah right
Didn't even read it
Saw that jdewitz said it's 4:3

[marble radish]

Should have confirmed it an eleventh time

[ebon hawk]

looks like a 888:666 screen to me.

[stable vessel]

When he says 4:3 and I see that resolution

To me it says those pixels are being squashed to fit the 4:3 aspect ratio like some of the older handhelds we've seen.

[mellow ember]

So it's exactly the same screen as RG280V, I guess

Ah, duh, this is 3.5 inches, not 2.8, sorry

But also 4:3 480x320

[marble radish]

You guys are out of your minds

[wary falcon]

it's most likely the same screen as OGA, rgb10/s, rg351p/m

that is a 320x480 rotated display, 3:2

[stable vessel]

[wary falcon]

the old mips devices had 320x480 landscape in 4:3 format, meaning double the vertical resolution compared to horizontal

[gritty iris]

Rotated? What was it used by originally?

[wary falcon]

Not sure, but it's an extremly common panel in hobby electronics

It was common in early smartphones

that resolution at least

[marble radish]

It's a little over than a centimeter bigger than the 280v in both directions, and a bit thicker

V10 103.2 x 94 x 22.5mm
280v 89 x 78 x 18mm

[brave apex]

If it has the same screen of the rgb10S and without its design oddities, will be a great device if priced well for a rk3326 device..

Why give this a 3:2 though and not the rgb10 revision..

[brave apex]

From Russ 's review, the rgb10S seem to have the best screen of those mentioned

[wary falcon]

there may be different qualities of them, but in sw they behave the same.

[warm gorge]

Can rk3326 run psp?

[polar timber]

not that well but yeah some

[warm gorge]

A shame

[gritty iris]

Castlevania seems fine

[meager fulcrum]

Fuck

NO NO NO NO ITS A 280V SITUATION

[polar timber]

pretty sure its not

"V10 is equipped with a 3.5-inch IPS OCA fully laminated display with a resolution of 480*320, which brings players a clear and delicate visual experience. In particular, the display effect of GBA games (original pixels 240*160) has reached double point-to-point full frame operation, allowing players to relive the charm of classic games." from their website

if this is dirt cheap (which it should be) it's kinda cool? stickless version of rgb20 with a less stupid looking design. hard to get too excited about rk3326 in 2024 but at least the firmware wont be an issue

[gritty iris]

My guess is that old AmberElec will probably just work. Nothing to tweak.

[hallow ore]

Yeah if this is cheap I’m buying one just for gba

Unfortunately that wifi box translates to “supports external” aka you need a dongle

[marble radish]

And poof, there goes the intrigue

[stable vessel]

ANOTHER ONE

[meager fulcrum]

Can't tell if I should trust jdewitz or powkiddy lmfao

[digital tusk]

This is so dumb, no built in wifi just like the 351P all over again.

I dont want a wifi dongle hanging out of the otc port.

[wary falcon]

It's really a mystery why they keep insisting on usb-c for the host port

It's not like I am going to connect my portable nvme drive to it

[deft pewter]

3:2 or 4:3? 4:3 is a hard pass to me.

[polar timber]

powkiddy says 3:2 and it definitely looks 3:2. So im pretty sure it's 3:2

[prime atlas]

Bless Lord Cthulthu for a 3:2 screen. So over 4:3 screens. Oversaturated market

[deft pewter]

It's the same screen as the rgb10 refresh

[deft pewter]

This statement confused the shit out of me. Because the rgb10 isn't 4:3

[digital tusk]

Definately 3:2 , perfect 2x scale for GBA like the 351P

[deft pewter]

So JD was miss informed? He said it 10 times

[prime atlas]

He ain't Powkiddy.

[stable vessel]

He also gets direct information from Powkiddy or someone close in line over there

[prime atlas]

Maybe he got fed false information so Powkiddy can find a leaker. Big corpos do it. Who the eff knows.

[deft pewter]

Why I never question it. When the render looked 3:2 and he said 4:3. I trusted him.

[prime atlas]

All we know now is that Powkiddy says it's a 3.5", 480*320 screen. i.e. a 3:2 screen

Bless their soul for going 3:2

[near geode]

now I'm wanting a RGB10 refresh with the H700 and maybe wifi and bt

[deft pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/too-much-overwhelmed-sigh-a-lot-stress-gif-5987920037539735892

[stable vessel]

Plus I remember the RG300 which was a 3" 320*480 4:3 display

[near geode]

those half height pixels

[stable vessel]

Essentially

[near geode]

similar to the RG280s but man I love those two

the pixel scaling nerds hate them tho

[stable vessel]

Oh yeah

It gives me nightmares still lol

[near geode]

weak

[deft pewter]

Yeah it's so bad.

I have an 280v that is useless to me because of that

[prime atlas]

Welp anyway. If Powkiddy's statement is talking about it reliving GBA with the V10, then it'll be 3:2

[stable vessel]

Such a shame if Powkiddy went squashed pixels this time

[prime atlas]

Total hard pass if they don't do 3:2

[deft pewter]

Yep it would be horrible

[stable vessel]

All I know is it's gonna be cheap

And 3326

[prime atlas]

All they need to do is make a horizontal version and it'll be peachy

[stable vessel]

https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1246068339998986240

[digital tusk]

Kinda dissapointed no built in wifi

[meager fulcrum]

It's such a shame

Great device otherwise

[prime atlas]

Straight to the bin

[deft pewter]

Oh that is what he meant. Makes sense

[brave apex]

Really hope they use the screen for the horizontal one as well...

[prime atlas]

But nah. I'd like one without any analog sticks pls.

3:2 horizontal with no analog sticks let's go

[meager fulcrum]

Me thinking I got a 3:2 device with the 280v

My surprise when I remembered the half height pixels

[digital tusk]

i'll still get one if it's cheap enough and the screen is not as washed as the 351P

[stable vessel]

Likely using a similar screen to save on costs

[deft pewter]

Makes sense. I will just wait until we know for sure. Hopefully this isn't over 50 dollars.

[deft pewter]

I mean it's well documented

[stable vessel]

Considering the RGB20 is $49.99 I'd be shocked if it was higher

[meager fulcrum]

I wasn't sure if it was the 280v or nano @deft pewter

It was 25$ either way so I mean, who cares

[stable vessel]

RG Nano was 1:1 if that's what you're talking about lol

[meager fulcrum]

Yeah my memory was funky

funkey

[deft pewter]

Lol true. When people were saying the 280v was better than the miyoo mini I would point out half pixels and I get similar responses when you say the odin 2 has ghosting. Doest brother me or I don't notice it

[meager fulcrum]

I sure do see it, doesn't help the Adam image had weird quirks with that

[near geode]

my fuel against the MM is that all the buttons and the Dpad suck ass

the worst feeling dpad I've ever used on a handheld

[deft pewter]

What?

[near geode]

it's so soft that I make misinputs all the time

[deft pewter]

Skill issue?

[austere compass]

cmon guys, just look at the older powkiddy devices with 3,5 480x320 screen and compare to this. Its obviously physically 3:2 screen

[near geode]

all the buttons are way too soft to feel good and with the bad shoulder button shape I can never tell if I'm pressing them or not

[deft pewter]

I will say the shoulders buttons are 100% trash. Built is cheap and will break easy

[near geode]

the thing holding the MM to such a high regard is Onion

[deft pewter]

Half pixels are still a huge mistake.

[near geode]

I can't deny that for people who are scaling nuts

but I still will pick up the 280V over the MM for a small handheld

[deft pewter]

Plenty of 3rd party buttons to fix the mm issues. Can't fixed the bleach in my eyes

[near geode]

Jay you might want to seek help if that's what's happening

[austere compass]

I am fortunately not bothered by the half pixes on 280v

[deft pewter]

What half pixels feel like to me

[near geode]

the worst I've noticed is some goofy looking text on some games

[wary falcon]

remember that since they are half heigh there is twice as many, GB games scaled better than on 320x240

[austere compass]

not the exactly the same angle, but thats 3:2 to me

[wary falcon]

but yeah 640x480 is better in every aspect

[austere compass]

lcd grid filters look much better on it because of that

[wary falcon]

they were just cheap at the time, and better than the other cheap option 320x240

[opaque notch]

I was told "it's 4:3. It's the same panel as the rgb10 refresh"

So this is what Hu told me, so I brought that here.

[deft pewter]

It's a render so who knows. The info from powkiddy says 3:2 but they miss printed information before.

[austere compass]

I would not be suprised if they fucked the renders

its powkiddy after all

[opaque notch]

Look at the video

[austere compass]

oh I missed that one

[deft pewter]

There is a video. Let me scroll up

[austere compass]

oh I see, it doesnt help he runs that game with pillarboxing and its a bit difficult to see where the bezels start

[prime atlas]

Yeah the video definitely has black bars on the side. I can see the LCD glow.

[opaque notch]

Look you guys are free to believe whatever you like but I'm just relaying what I'm given.

[opaque notch]

Looks like 4:3 with chonky bezels to me

[prime atlas]

That game is suppose to be 4:3 yeah? Then yeah. I'm pretty confident it's 3:2

[digital tusk]

That's a 3:2 screen

[opaque notch]

Ok well if it's 3:2 then it's 3:2

[prime atlas]

You can see where the bezels end and the screen begins.

[opaque notch]

Ok

[digital tusk]

Maybe Hu is drunk

[prime atlas]

Not discrediting you good sir. Just trying to verify the reality.

[digital tusk]

If he's not then an early apology from me

[opaque notch]

I haven't known that to be a thing ever.

[austere compass]

maybe their PR department knows neither lol

[opaque notch]

Not about credit. I just don't want people to get hopes up based on speculation

[digital tusk]

Understood

[deft pewter]

I trust JD was given that information. I just don't trust powkiddy to give out the correct information

[opaque notch]

I asked about 3:2 since the original one was

And was told this will be 4:3

[prime atlas]

Maybe an early version of the V10 was 4:3 and they changed their mind later but that change info didn't get passed on. Who knows.

[opaque notch]

And I thought to myself at the time, huh, they are going to use this I'm the rgb10 revision, ok

Either way I guess we'll see it when we get them

[austere compass]

its a bit weird situation

[digital tusk]

Yeah time will tell, not getting hopes up yet

Plus the no built in wifi kinda killed it for me a tad already

So sick of using wifi dongle on my 351P

[austere compass]

yeah, I really wish companies would stop skipping on wifi

with some devices I can ssh over cable, but its still not that great solution

[polar timber]

their website and the official specs do say 3:2 unless it's a 280v situation and god I hope they aren't using a screen like that in 2024 lol

[austere compass]

man, someone should bring a devices with higher res 3:2 screen

even with 3326 it would be nice

[digital tusk]

☹️

[deft pewter]

Ktr1 or ayaneo micro

[sudden plover]

We can get 3x integer scaling GBA replacement IPS screens on AliExpress for 40-45 bucks. Why do we have to get such a low res screen? This resolution is quite bad for other systems as it won't do 2x for those

[prime atlas]

Ayaneo's doing that. Albeit with a 960x640 screen. Would've been much better if it was a 720x480 screen

[digital tusk]

Ayaneo prices tho 😅

[sudden plover]

Exactly, 720x480 is what these are:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJk6wbD

480 is just gonna scale more systems well

[prime atlas]

Ngeh. Anyone buying ayaneo is prepared to pay. Just wish the micro was better specced. 720 x 480 and no analog sticks would've been sweet

[prime atlas]

Yeah really hoping one of these manufacturers start using those screens on their consoles

[hallow ore]

640x480 scales a lot of home consoles well but is pretty poor scaling for a lot of handhelds

480x320 is the opposite, scales most handhelds well but is pretty damn bad for home console games

[prime atlas]

720x480 integer scales all the 480 consoles and GBA

[sudden plover]

G99 is overspecced for 720x480

[hallow ore]

yeah I wish we would get a stickless handheld with that

like if my 28xx was instead a 720x480 30xx 🤤

[prime atlas]

I care more for integer scale all in one.

[hallow ore]

keep in mind that 720x480 display is only 3"

[sudden plover]

For sure, just saying the higher res screen makes some sense in the micro

[hallow ore]

so it would be great for a micro handheld like the 28xx or a30

[prime atlas]

I mean it depends. All the power but can't scale consoles properly so games won't look as good as they can be. What's the point TBH?

[sudden plover]

For 3D games, integer scaling is less important as you just emulate a higher internal resolution

[prime atlas]

Yeah but not every game is 3D

[sudden plover]

You're right about SNES and similar consoles tho

[prime atlas]

720x480 handheld console. Come on. Someone make it a reality.

[deft pewter]

Would you pay 150 for it?

[sudden plover]

Basically, 160, 320, 480, 640, 800, 960 are GBA vertical multiples but only a few of them are also 240p multiples (480 and 960)

So these are the ones you want, really

[prime atlas]

Exactly

[hallow ore]

maybe if it were suitably premium in all other aspects. Like a t610 with a 720x480 for $150 would be doable for me but the controls would have to be pretty much perfect.

[polar timber]

how many 2d games for 480p capable consoles are actually 480p tho. Most 2d DC games for instance don't use 480p assets

[hallow ore]

I mean hell I've been asking retroid to do a 'micro' with a ~4" 800x480 5:3, flip sliders, and inline shoulders for months.

basically the miyoo p60 but real and good

for psp and gba mostly

[deft pewter]

That is a 250 dollar handheld

[hallow ore]

how do you figure?

https://www.buydisplay.com/4-3-800x480-ips-tft-lcd-module-all-viewing-optl-touchscreen-display I'm asking for an RP2S with cheaper shoulders, sliders instead of sticks, and this screen

[sudden plover]

BTW, I got a new 3DS for cheap last week, and well-done sliders are actually not half bad. I wouldn't be opposed for a micro handheld to use sliders.

[hallow ore]

yeah the flip sliders reviewed well, I hope we get them on more devices tbh

[deft pewter]

TFT vs IPS

How can something be TFT and IPS?

[sudden plover]

China

[hallow ore]

Anyway if this reviews well, is decently priced, and can run a noob friendly cfw (either preconfigured by me arkOS like in the RGC guide or minUI or something) I might set it up as a dedicated gba handheld for my partner since that’s the only retro system she cares about

[prime atlas]

Does it matter if the emulator itself outputs 480p regardless?

[deft pewter]

I just hope it's 3:2 and not half pixels. Wifi is nice but not a care to me much. With so much speculation around it. I will wait.

[polar timber]

in the case of dc yeah cuz a lot of those games have 240p modes that u probably should be using. dunno about ps2/gc but a lot of 2d games on those dont have a very sharp image to begin with so how much damage could a little more non-integer scale do

[gritty iris]

worms armageddon menu?

[polar timber]

yeah i mean ill give u worms armageddon. most of the shmups and fighting games arent using 480p assets tho

[marble radish]

The wording on their web page is pretty clear it's 3:2 specifically for 2x GBA integer scaling

[austere compass]

ahem.. all IPS are TFT, but not all TFT are IPS

but its a redundant statement, as there are no passive ips

[deft pewter]

Many times they have given out wrong info also

[deft pewter]

So they are just IPS then

[austere compass]

yep. I guess it looked nice for them to have a longer description and its not factually wrong

[stable vessel]

Just hoping it's 3:2 and not half pixels.

Gonna wait through the speculation till they get in hand

[vital mortar]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/powkiddy-v10-announced/

[stable vessel]

No way

Get real

[deft pewter]

Funny thing is the 3326 could always fast charge with the simple mod. Glad they added the two resistors to make it happen

[near geode]

I hope the price in this one is competitive with the H700 devices

[stable vessel]

Fingers crossed but should be sub $50

[polar timber]

yeah genuinely this should be a pretty good mm+/35xx+ competitor if the price is right. il ike the more compact form factor and integer scaled gba is gonna be a selling point for some. no wifi is unfortunate tho

[near geode]

That'd be perfect pricing for a cheapo travel handheld

[prime atlas]

TBH I don't feel like it's a competing device but rather a complement or alternate device for those who prioritise emulating GBA over 4:3 consoles, especially if the pricepoint is low enough.

[polar timber]

i mean for people already in this server its not but i think the stickless verticals have been pretty popular first handhelds for people new to the hobby and i imagine they want a piece of that pie. so even if its got different strengths i think it does kind of matter how its priced compared to mm+/35xx+

[prime atlas]

Tis true. My first handheld was the MM+. That said, if the V10 existed at the same time as the MM+ or 35XX+ came out, I would've pick one of those two AND the V10 if the total cost of both were low enough.

[polar timber]

regular mm was my first, pocketgo s30 was my second lol (used cheap locally) so i do have 3:2 covered but i dont particularly like the s30

[prime atlas]

Welp hopefully the V10 doesn't disappoint. That said, I'm still hoping for a 3:2 flip device one day. While I love my 35XXSP, it still doesn't feel "right" because of the screen. Very close. But not there yet.

[polar timber]

yeah i mean i think the screen was a good practical choice tho cuz 480p 4:3 is just better for more retro stuff. they were going for nostalgia with the formfactor but didn't really design it as a dedicated gba system

[unreal hill]

I'm not the biggest fan of where the shoulder buttons are tbh

buuuuuut I'm still interested

also the rk3326 is gonna live forever lmao

[polar timber]

i mean i think this device is just them trying to use up their old parts for the rgb10 and rgb20 lol.

but idk i think it makes sense. like the lowend market hasnt gotten far enough past 3326 that an appropriately priced 3326 isnt still competitive. and the firmware being very well established is a selling point

[unreal hill]

3326 is still ol' reliable for sure, I just think it's funny how long it's been relevant

It is kind of the chip for running the systems it'll run

Plus 3326 means plenty of CFW out the gate

[unreal hill]

Does "double point-to-point full frame operation" mean perfect 2x for GBA?

Or is it marketing talk

[polar timber]

thats what it sounds like but Jdewitz was apparently told it's 4:3 so im not really sure what to trust lol?

but from the official specs they dropped yes it should do 2x integer scale gba

[unreal hill]

hell yeah

[vestal blaze]

Unless it's non-square pixels like the 280v. I think/hope it's 2:3 though.

[strong pier]

I’m just glad it is 3:2

[shut needle]

I forgot the 280v was non-square pixels. Hmm, well hopefully this one is.

[vital mortar]

Yeah it should hit 2x ok from what i'm seeing, but also yes whatever they meant to say there I think is lost in translation 😄

[unreal hill]

either way a proper 640x480 in a 280v form factor is hype

[hallow ore]

this isn't that though

this is 480x320

[unreal hill]

oh ok

[hallow ore]

I want a 28xxV tbh but I'd rather it be slimmer and taller for one hand rpg use like the OG MM or gkd pixel rather than a wide boy like the 280v

[unreal hill]

I'd be insta-sold on an Anbernic xx mini

[hallow ore]

imagine they do it in metal

28xxVM, basically an rg nano pro/gkd pixel killer

[unreal hill]

ooooooo

I've been wanting a pixel just out of curiosity

I'm just not paying $80-ish bucks for that

[golden cypress]

They put one on the promo banner, maybe it releases with it

[unreal hill]

👁️

they did say soon......

I think I'll wait on a RH or RGC vid on it before I pull the trigger on buying one tho

But I'm def interested

[strong pier]

I’m sure they’ll get review unit before preorders go live

[unreal hill]

oh for sure

[stable vessel]

I'm unfortunately gonna have to buy one to review it

[outer heart]

I've always been a big proponent of reusing the 3326 for developed FW and a cheaper price

I'm happy to see Powkiddy follow through

[unreal hill]

3326 is the ol' reliable chip for the range of systems it'll be playing so why not

[waxen turtle]

Guess it starts tomorrow?
Like 6/18 or when?

[cerulean orchid]

This thing looks so hilarious I'm going to buy it

[hallow ore]

the people's ayaneo pocket micro

https://tenor.com/view/parenti-michael-parenti-excellent-mustache-chefs-kiss-gif-21078761

[outer heart]

This is technically a 35xxsp competitor as well

Different form factor but it's a GBA handheld apparently

[hallow ore]

the SP doesn't integer scale GBA 😠

[outer heart]

Once again, Powkiddy supremacy

[strong pier]

Praise powkiddy

I own more powkiddy than Anbernic

Something about powkiddy's coke fueled designs just draw me in

[hallow ore]

Hrm, I have 2 x v90, q36 mini, RGB30, rgb10max3pro from powkiddy vs 353vs, 35xxSP, 28xx, 405v, and rg arc from anbernic so anbernic is slightly ahead for me

[ebon hawk]

powkiddy are not afraid to innovate, only difference between "this is insane shit" and "this is the greatest new idea in a while" is hindsight

come to think of it, it's weird how the RG Cube didn't come from Powkiddy

[left marsh]

Well, without the RGB30, would there have been a Cube? 🤔

Debating if this is a blind purchase or if it's worth waiting for a review/first batch of units to go out.

I feel like I need to see GBA scaling in action before buying...

[outer heart]

I think this might be a device that'll be dirt cheap from resellers in a couple months

[left marsh]

That, too.

Crazy to see people post about their $15 35xx H

[outer heart]

I'm guessing $40/$45 retail, available for $20/$25 by like August

[left marsh]

Another reason to wait.

This hobby is an exercise in impulse control and restraint.

Not really an exercise in logic... Threw that out a long time ago.

[outer heart]

It you can convince yourself it's a good deal you won't feel too bad about buying another unnecessary device

[hallow ore]

the problem is these things are so damn cheap that even if it's a 100% difference ($20 vs $40) waiting vs not you can rationalize it as 'am I really gonna wait 3 months just to save the cost of a pizza?'

[left marsh]

No

The under $50 space is deadly for me, for that reason.

I took my family out to breakfast and it was $75.

But I do think waiting for reviews is smart(er.)

The last 3-4 devices I bought, I did not wait for any reviews. 😂

[frozen quiver]

Wait for reviews, wait for a few delivered batches, then decide ideally.

You'll just end up fiddling with ever changing CFW until then anyhow.

[left marsh]

Yes, and there's no shortage of other things to play while you wait.

[frozen quiver]

Particularly on something like this. I am sure most here have devices that can do what a 3326 can do.

[left marsh]

Easy to wait for the first wave of shipments, but agreed with Pope, it's hard to wait for sales to save $15-20.

[left marsh]

And devices that can do better... For me it's really the GBA 2x scaling.

I would likely try to get the most MinUI experience possible on this with nothing but my top 30-40 GBA games.

[strong pier]

I don't know if innovate is the word I would use for powkiddy but I get what you're trying to say

I feel like a lot of their handhelds are "why the fuck not" handhelds

[hallow ore]

"sorry sweetie, no breakfast today - new powkiddy just dropped"

[deft pewter]

GBA at 2x vs GBA will win for me. Only thing I am hold offish about is half pixels.

[polar timber]

yeah im still confused cuz of what JDewitz was saying powkiddy told him directly lol. i think if this is a 3:2 stickless vertical 3326 thats actually pretty smart and it should do well if its cheap enough, if its 4:3 with giant bezels and possibly rectangular pixels idk why youd get it over a 35xx+ or sp

[vestal blaze]

Yeah, that's the only thing tempering the hype for me. I'd love a 3:2 dedicated mini GBA machine, but until someone has this in hand, I'll be afraid they just found a pile of 280v screens, lol.

[cerulean orchid]

The 280v screen is really hard to go back to

If it's 3:2 3326 it may be the 3:2 screens that were on every OGA clone

[waxen turtle]

Would the x39 pro be suitable as a screen for GBA? I think it can be 3:2 with some small black bars

[austere compass]

just from the size alone it cannot be 280v screen....

[prime atlas]

Guess it ain't dropping on 618

[waxen turtle]

@hallow ore
Would you know for this?

[austere compass]

if it is the 4.5inch variant, then yes as that is 854x480

[waxen turtle]

Yes and it should be a bit more than 3:2 aspect ratio but close right?

[austere compass]

x39 pro itself is not great though

[waxen turtle]

Yeah but GBA shouldn't take a lot of power

[austere compass]

its not, but I am not sure how well the emulator there is implemented. Someone with that crap will have to chime in

[cerulean orchid]

Most of the 'grandma got you a Nintendo Switch sweetie' powkiddy stuff isn't actually that bad

[little mist]

I would like this device and would probably get it if it didn’t have those giant bezels

[hallow ore]

I don't think the bezels are actually that giant on 3:2 content

[cerulean orchid]

The OGA clones were fine with 4:3 stuff tbh

[cerulean orchid]

And I mean some stuff like GB/C looks OK stretched because you could do that on a GBA anyway

[deft pewter]

Without a dev stealing code from Odroid and giving it to anbernic this hobby might be dead

[grizzled grove]

https://powkiddy.com/blogs/news/recruiting-video-bloggers-free-sample-event

[left marsh]

What a bizarre way to incentivize content creators... Are other manufacturers doing this??

Does powkiddy not send review units?

[frozen quiver]

It's no different than sending out review units really. Just means it's easier for reviewers to get hold of the units, albeit not before launch. Not a bad thing, as they get the buying experience as well.

[prime atlas]

Happens in all consumer industries. Nothing out of the ordinary

[left marsh]

I'm really referring to the " buy now, show us your YouTube scorecard for a possible refund." I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I just never saw a content creator campaign use that model.

[left marsh]

With all due respect, this is completely different than sending out review units. Not saying it's bad.

[frozen quiver]

Just trying to understand where you are coming from....why do you feel it is so different?

[stable vessel]

Generally speaking review units don't cost anything at any point unless you have import taxes.

This is. Buy the device at full price, make a video, and we'll decide if we refund you depending on our criteria.

[outer heart]

This is them trying to go viral on tiktok with a competition

[outer heart]

I'm just annoyed they posted an article and it wasn't v10 news

[deft pewter]

They did something similar for the RGB20S after it was out.

[hallow ore]

we require additional pylons price information

[stable vessel]

V10 has hit their website as coming soon. $39.99 list price.

https://rh-go.link/Powkiddy_V10_PK

[ebon hawk]

It troubles me that the screen is clearly wide in the render but is listed as 480x320

if this has wide pixels, I swear

[stable vessel]

Good luck

[strong pier]

dang $40

[gritty iris]

Does this kind of LCD trickery even exist on consumer devices anymore?

[wary falcon]

it's 3:2

it's vertical rgb10 essentially, without stick.

that's at least how I understand it

[ebon hawk]

Hmmn it looks cute

[wary falcon]

It looks really good, if I loved GBA above everything else I definitely get it. But I am more promiscuous than that. Should be great for the simple PSP games it can emulate too.

this with the 4 inch Arc screen would be awesome, the width is probably necessary to make it more comfy.

[prime atlas]

Ooo US SNES colour. Keen

[polar timber]

oooh $40, the price is right

i like how they just use the two different button colours from us snes on the transparent colourways lol. efficient

[polar timber]

no wifi is still a bummer i guess but idk $40 for a 3326 with a 3:2 screen is good and the form factor looks really compact

[deft pewter]

That’s a price to get these moving

[frozen quiver]

Instantly becomes the best budget GBA machine, if nothing else.

[hallow ore]

Probably be able to do 30 or 35 usd with coupons including shipping 👀

[stable vessel]

If they bring back coupon code POWKIDDY you could probably get it for $30

[polar timber]

yeah lol it wouldnt make sense if it was much more than $40 but at $40 its definitely worth a look. hopefully the dpad is decent

[frozen quiver]

Everything is worth it if the price is right.

The datafrog is an awful console. But for the price, it's amazing.

Funny thing is, if you factor in shipping and getting a non-broken battery for the datafrog, it won't be far off $30.

[gritty iris]

Is the device single card? Then what software will it come with?

[prime atlas]

Who knows. Will have to wait for reviews to find out

[rugged wharf]

oh 40$ for this is good

[polar timber]

yeah it looks like only single sd

[analog meteor]

There's only one word that defines this form factor, "Yuck" *Dave Chappelle

[green jacinth]

Single SD made the tiny bit of interest I had in this device evaporate. 😕

[gritty iris]

They didn't mention anything about internal flash and emmc, so maybe it's specifically for system+game in one card?

[green jacinth]

Right. That’s a disqualifier for my interest. (I’m cool with nand-based firmware, prefer it actually but PowKiddy doesn’t have a history of that)

System + games on the same card is a bad time.

[grand veldt]

Aw i was considering the transparent white

[shut needle]

Eh, at least that’s more evidence that people’s ArkOS cards for the 351P will even more likely be just drop-in.

[wary falcon]

I doubt for rg351p

Maybe rgb10/oga

The 351p used USB interface for the controls which was notorious for not functioning correctly with sleep.

[deft pewter]

Why the 351p lost its ArkOS support. RK2020 still getting regular updates

[shut needle]

Yeah, forgot about that. Well, at least it will have precedence for the design.

[hallow ore]

If the rgb10/OGA firmware works I think I’ll get one of these just for gba

[shut needle]

Although I am now worried about Amberelec since I don’t remember that cfw having OGA or RGB10 options.

[hallow ore]

I’d just do arkOS I think

[polar timber]

yeah ark is my fav anyway

[unreal hill]

$40 feels just right

[little topaz]

Just low enough to make it worth being an impulse buy

[hallow ore]

yup

especially since it's free shipping to canada and probably will have a coupon that works

that snes white colourway will be mine

[vital mortar]

$40 is impulse buy range for me, what color?

https://rh-go.link/Powkiddy_V10_PK

[vital mortar]

Not on sale just yet

[near geode]

This is super tempting if CFW from the old 3326 devices works out of the box

[shut needle]

Same here, the cfw for the old 3:2 3326 devices were awesome.

[hallow ore]

do we have a date it's gonna go on sale?

I'm leaning white/snes here

or 'grey' they are calling it

[trim trellis]

oh shit dat price

i guess i need one now

[polar timber]

gotta be transparent purple i think

tho i do kinda like the transparent black with the purple buttons too

[vital mortar]

Yeah same here I think 🤔

Purple shell

[polar timber]

ive got enough dmg and us snes flavoured devices already

[trim trellis]

i like the transparent black with purple buttons

really cute

[grand veldt]

I'm interested in this but the colors aren't a impulse buy for me, so I'll wait for reviews first

[prime atlas]

US SNES colour let’s go

Heck. 3:2 device let’s go. Many 4:3 choices. We need more 3:2 choices

[hallow ore]

Especially cute given the gba in many ways was a portable snes

This is just cute enough and cheap enough that I think I’m gonna bite and load it up with nothing but gba games

[unreal hill]

Dedicated GBA machine is a perfect niche for this yeah

[prime atlas]

Yeah definitely gonna be GBA exclusive for me.

[polar timber]

yeah I just hope the shoulders are decent and comfortable to use

It's a wonky design so I'm worried about that especially

[rose rain]

Also good for wonderswan

[cerulean orchid]

so this is an OGA clone? in 2024?

[trim trellis]

yes, but also 40 bucks

[hallow ore]

yeah I'm fine with "a 2020 handheld in 2024" if that also comes with "at under half the price anbernic is still selling the 351p for"

[polar timber]

yeah totally fine at this price. it is very much them using leftover parts from rgb10/20 i think lol and doing it in the stickless vertical form factor that's so popular in budget handhelds. surprised it took them so long to do something like this tbh

[unreal hill]

Anbernic selling devices from several years ago still at their original price is crazy

Isn't that stuff just clogging up warehouses at this point

[hallow ore]

wild to me they still sell some of it at all

I can still order a 351mp

or a 300x

[prime atlas]

Their profit margins on selling consoles are probably significantly huge enough that it offsets the cost of renting/buying warehouse space.

[unreal hill]

well yeah but I didn't mean it in that sense lol moreso they could make some quick money off of that inventory that's going nowhere if they did a price drop

[stable vessel]

Hey Stubbs
Do me a favor

Look in Pinned messages

[vital mortar]

[stable vessel]

I GOT YOU AGAIN

[vital mortar]

WELL

[stable vessel]

[stable vessel]

For a second I thought you unpinned my message lmao

[vital mortar]

Yours was there first, I unpinned mine

[stable vessel]

Sounds like a 40XX tweet to me

[prime atlas]

Hmm I wonder if they'll make a horizontal version of this. No-stick RGB10 essentially.

[outer heart]

Hey my price prediction was on point, that's nice to see

[stable vessel]

Fingers crossed for a PK coupon to go lower

[near geode]

the only problem I have with this design so far is the lack of skittle buttons

[hallow ore]

🇪🇺 ?

[near geode]

what?

[hallow ore]

I was accusing you of being european for preferring the EU super nintendo skittles to the US two tone

[near geode]

oh

nah I just prefer the format of each button has its color instead of dual tone

[azure bolt]

I hate the fact that I will buy this, despite having an rg351m

[iron lance]

No wifi 😭

[near geode]

just dongles

[stable vessel]

Tower of Power if you will

[near hill]

Any idea of a release date?

[unreal hill]

All we know is "soon"

[stable vessel]

Soon™

[near hill]

it's a part of this sale that ends on the 30th of this month so it has to be this week sometime seeing the sale ends in a week from today.

[hallow ore]

$5 off a $40 handheld including shipping

[vital mortar]

Hrmmmmm

👀

[hallow ore]

the real question is whether I'm ordering one or two

[stable vessel]

Why not all four

[hallow ore]

Because I am not in a polyamorous quartet

[stable vessel]

yet

[hallow ore]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-cornholio-thretening-are-you-threatening-me-gif-13598704

[stable vessel]

It's not a threat if it's a promise

[hallow ore]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-shyboos-smile-gif-24233810

[near hill]

What is this supposed to be the competitor for?

[unreal hill]

Updated 280v I suppose

Which I'm down for I love the 280v lol

[prime atlas]

I don’t even think there’s a competitor. Can’t recall any other vertical 3.5” 3:2 consoles

[unreal hill]

For $40 I'm liking Kehoe's idea of making this a dedicated GBA machine

Perfect 2x scale and allat

[hallow ore]

yeah I can't think of anything else that integer scales gba for cheap

[prime atlas]

TBH I feel like that’s the point of this device being made. GBA above all

3:2 ripe to be capitalised

[unreal hill]

It's a niche that hasn't really been filled yeah

Except what was it the 351p?

[prime atlas]

I think so

Even then, it’s got sticks and an ugly-ass logo in the front

[unreal hill]

RK3326 also pretty much guarantees good CFW right out the gate

Everything's lining up lol

[little topaz]

Threatening the great Cornholio

https://tenor.com/view/cornholio-beavis-and-butt-head-mad-angry-shaking-gif-17667011

[polar timber]

yeah other than maybe on the used market. i got my pocket go s30 for around $40 usd equivalent lol and i'd rather have this now for sure

it probably runs gba better for one

[hallow ore]

and it's like twice the price!

[unreal hill]

Taking a page from the Nintendo playbook

[polar timber]

a lot of handhelds of that era used the same 3:2 screen. 351p and i think m (but not mp), rgb10 and rgb20 (but not 20s, not sure about 10s?), odroid go advance, pocketgo s30. but yeah those are old and either out of production or not price dropped appropriately

[unreal hill]

This is cheap, readily available, and will play all GBA flawlessly and then some

Form factor might turn some off but I'm about it

[near hill]

There's no internal Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. It's like a vertical version of the rg28xx

[stable vessel]

Ha
Hahah
Hahahha

You forget

The original

[prime atlas]

All hail the first

An abomination though

[stable vessel]

Also I didn't read the rest of chat and saw you mention it so ignore me

[stable vessel]

I've got one on the way don't worry

Need something to compare to the V10 afterall

[prime atlas]

What are the odds ArkOS for the RGB20 would work for the V10?

[hallow ore]

You need help

[stable vessel]

Well it's worth trying

[stable vessel]

Why?

[unreal hill]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little curious

[stable vessel]

Excited to get it too lol

[near geode]

someday I'll get my mitts on that one just to try it and see how bad it is

[deft pewter]

Did you buy one?

Never mind read the rest of the chat

[prime atlas]

Probably could try EmuElec for the Odroid Go Advance as well

[primal ferry]

at this price it's really tempting to get to add it to the collection of devices i barely use 😅

[stable vessel]

So much we could use on it

[prime atlas]

I mean if it runs ArkOS, I'll be happy. Have never been a fan of any stock linux OS for all these handhelds.

[gritty iris]

Powkiddy stock is usually just JELOS right?

[umbral glen]

ROCKNIX on the 20SX

But yeah JELOS basically.

[prime atlas]

Yeah but I’m no fan of JELOS either

[opaque notch]

It was but this may change.

Not a bad change, just Rocknix and they are trying to make stuff that might interest Christian again too.

[azure bolt]

they shipped the rgb20sx with Rocknix already

a incredibly shitty version on top of that

[gritty iris]

how's that even...

[near hill]

It's live

https://powkiddy.com/products/powkiddy-v10-handheld-game-console?variant=45025521664247

[outer heart]

@stable vessel

[stable vessel]

OH FUCK OH SHIT

https://rh-go.link/Powkiddy_V10_PK

[rugged wharf]

doxxing self

[near hill]

So this is no longer a rumor seeing it's live right??

[hallow ore]

it probably doesn't make sense to gets its own channel rather than lumped into #841724025617121330

so this will probably stay as a rumour thread until devices are in hands

[prime atlas]

And now to wait for it to pop up on AliExpress

[near geode]

I hope this is good

[grizzled grove]

Just went for the black transparent cuz I like those purple buttons and came out to $35 shipped what a deal

[prime atlas]

Also for those buying from PowKiddy's website, make sure to use a single-use card. Someone posted a week ago that someone tried to use their single-use card that they used on PowKiddy's website.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1dhwcpw/heads_up_powkiddycom_is_possibly_insecure/

[umbral glen]

Just bought 2x V10’s and Powkiddy added $10 off

[echo fable]

They give you $10 off for orders over $50.

They also give you $15 off orders over $80. Actually $80 or over. Pad your order with $1 $2 worth of supplemental freight and you net extra $4 $3 saving.

[lone sail]

You only need 1 supplement link. It's $65.98 for 2. Good deal!!

[echo fable]

Oh you're right! Strange math but it works.

[junior scroll]

$42.34 with free shiping ... not bad ... just what OS is there emuelec?

[austere compass]

its probably some "replacerightawaystockOS"

[gritty iris]

Not gonna be easy since it's single-card

[austere compass]

so is OGA and I can use it with, lets say arkos just fine

[gritty iris]

System and ROMs on one card?

[austere compass]

yes, though arkos creates an exfat partition for roms

[prime atlas]

Potentially Emuelec and ArkOS

[near hill]

Well fuuu I used our business square debit card

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8tPY4VMB8n/?igsh=MXZlenVucmkwazV3cA==

hangryboyznocturnal

Just bought the new @hushuhe2021 retro handheld emulator duh V10. It's a vertical handheld w/ a 3.5 screen that's perfect for GBA games. It also is able to emulate N64 PSP along w/ all your 8-16 bit consoles & arcade games.

#retrohandheld #retrohandhelds #powkiddy #powkiddyv10 #v10 #nintendo #genesis #playstation #n64 #psp #sega #capcom #neogeo

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[crimson wyvern]

devices to scale as close as I could get them.
it's a wide miyoo mini plus

[azure bolt]

Lol, imagined it to be smaller

[prime atlas]

I mean, a 3.5" 3:2 screen is physically shorter but wider than a 3.5" 4:3 screen. So it was always gonna be a shorter but wider MM+

[crimson wyvern]

Yep. Exactly 2x resolution of GBA 🥰

[silver ether]

Honestly if you just want a $50 GBA then this is a pretty good deal. Even if that's all you use it for that's over a thousand games.

[echo fable]

Looks a little strange, but might actually be more comfortable with hands further apart.

[prime atlas]

I feel like that's what a lot of us are buying this for. A dedicated GBA console.

[deft pewter]

Main reason to buy it.

[crimson wyvern]

I think the MM+ is already pretty comfy so the V10 should be close to ideal for me.

[shy rivet]

ktr1 😄

[outer heart]

Will cost slightly less than a KTR1

Slightly

[crimson wyvern]

literally never heard of that thing

[prime atlas]

Easy pass. Doesn't integer scale for the whole screen and I ain't paying that much just to play GBA.

Also, it's got analog sticks. Just.. No. For emulating just GBA. No thanks.

[rugged wharf]

so imagine

a dumpster fire

thats all u need to know abt the ktr1

[silver ether]

I feel like Nil could have made a killing if he started small like a sane indie dev and used a weaker, but more affordable chip with that screen and two colorways. People just starting out get way too ambitious at times though.

[rugged wharf]

yeah the 7 colorways and button layouts were a mistake for a first device by one guy

[silver ether]

And three memory builds.

And two materials. So you had 7 x 2 x 3 x 2 number of mistakes to make, with that many more points of failure in the manufacturing.

[crimson wyvern]

side note, it's interesting how no two companies can agree on the color of clear purple.

IIRC the odin in clear purple was like almost gray

[prime atlas]

Clear purple can be whatever IMO. But if you call your purple "Atomic purple", you better be matching the atomic purple of a GBC

[gritty iris]

I'd push harder
Japan market called it "clear purple"

[prime atlas]

I still think "clear purple" is a generic enough name to be whatever tone of purple you want on your clear plastic case IMO It's like the difference between light blue and Tiffany blue.

[deft pewter]

The KTR1 has made it's way into the chat.

[crimson wyvern]

Was Nintendo the first to popularize a clear purple device or was there someone else?

Because in my mind when I think clear purple I think GBC. I know they had a clear purple GBP but I'd never seen one until one of my friends showed me his like 2 years ago.

they got pretty close with the RG35XX

and a lot of it has to do with the color of the PCB underneath

and it's also hard to photograph clear shells

Powkiddy's V10 looks more pink in the product shots

we'll see what it looks like IRL

[silver ether]

We already got 50 dmg colored devices and y'all want even less variety among the other colors? I'd be happy if clear purple got retired for a few years. Bless Retroid for at least trying something different now and then.

[prime atlas]

Only if it's called atomic purple. If they call it clear purple then they can do whatever they want IMO

Personally would like a yellow device that has the same yellow tone as the GBC.. But that's a rarity

[ebon hawk]

At that width the controls part is getting pretty close to a NES controller in width.

[hallow ore]

this has worse scaling for gba than the v10

[silver ether]

Yes and no? The KT has an inch on the V10 so even with integer scaling on you'll get a pixel perfect image bigger than the V10. It's just... literally everything else about the device.

[crimson wyvern]

pretty close yeah

[crimson wyvern]

The only reason I even want the v10 is because the 351P is kind of a bummer.

Same spec screen but the dpad and buttons were so unpleasant and the shoulders were awkwardly positioned.

[deft pewter]

I don't think Powkiddy is going to fix those issues. That company has worse buttons most of the time. Just a heads up.

[crimson wyvern]

I've heard they're a bit cheap feeling but I doubt they'll be anywhere as awkward as the 351p

Even other Anbernic devices I've picked up since then are better like the Arc and the 28XX

The 351p are a unique combination of stiff and mushy that I very much dislike.

[deft pewter]

I think the ARC buttons are the worse in anbernic's history. 28xx has the best

[crimson wyvern]

28XX best in terms of feel?

[deft pewter]

yeah, just enough click and response from the buttons. not too much travel. biggest hit is they are very small

[crimson wyvern]

yeah I'm still making up my mind about them. The small size was the biggest hurdle.

I like the glossy feel 😄

but way too tiny

I actually love the Arc buttons but I think the novelty of the Sega 6 button layout hard carries them for me.

If the V10 buttons are as stiff as the Arc buttons I'll survive.

Because although they are stiff, they don't have the mush of the 351P

[unreal hill]

I love the 28xx buttons buuuut I'm also an RG Nano shill so there may be bias lol

[crimson wyvern]

The RG nano is a fantastic novelty device - I don't see any reason to complain about it.

[unreal hill]

I meant it more in the sense that small buttons aren't an issue for me, I love my Nano <33

[trim trellis]

nano rally is goated for discrete one handed gaming

[unreal hill]

If you don't mind sacrificing a tiny bit of portability you can toss a popsocket on it for ULTIMATE one-handedness

[azure bolt]

hmmm, gotta hold off on this until gogamegeek lists it, 5$ off ain't enough

[hallow ore]

anyone know if dev units of these went out?

I'm mildly worried I'll get one and it'll just be a CFW wasteland if they broke compat with rgb10/OGA firmwares somehow

[dawn solar]

What color you guys get?

[echo fable]

Gray. I like the SNES theme

[grizzled grove]

i went black cause of the purple buttons

[stable vessel]

Because I did it in 40XX I'm gonna do a poll here

[unreal hill]

is the pic of all the colors pinned I need a refresher

[stable vessel]

Yeah you can find all four colors in pins

[unreal hill]

is beige the dmg or the one with the snes buttons

[prime atlas]

I chose grey since I’m a sucker for US SNES

[opaque notch]

Guys it's probably rocknix but I think the team will get them.

I don't have mine yet, so I don't think they will ship immediately

[brave apex]

Interested in this but holding off til more info is revealed for that rgb10 revision.

Or maybe til review videos are out on the comfort etc, don't hate but not really a fan of vertical

[crimson wyvern]

I ordered the transparent purple but I don't love the shade of lilac they chose for the face buttons

they might look different in person and/or I might replace them down the line

the transparent black has the best button color imo

[unreal hill]

I ordered gray cuz I like the SNES buttons :v

[thorny plaza]

I'm so on the fence about getting this but the pay processer on the powkitty website is just a bit too sketchy for me, so I'll wait for a review. with how often things go on sale I bet it won't be too long before its' this price again

[azure bolt]

What is sketchy about paying on powkiddys website?

[rugged wharf]

[thorny plaza]

Can't use paypal, and it's some processor I've never heard of that's trying to look like how ShopPay looks.

[rugged wharf]

you dont trust this round guy with ur CC info??

[azure bolt]

credit card goes brrrrrr

[thorny plaza]

I just like the extra layer of security, is all 😅 No shade to anyone else

[azure bolt]

does it matter these days? I have to allow every purchase via a smartphone app anyway

[prime atlas]

Use a single-use credit card

[prime atlas]

Not all banks/CC provider has this added layer of security

[azure bolt]

Forgive me powkiddy for I have sinned, just grabbed an rg351p instead

[hallow ore]

I wish the 351p was cheap and stickless

and/or that powkiddy makes a horizontal version of the #1249641323020156989

[azure bolt]

yeah, 351p is waaay to expensive

I don't mind the sticks, but they are pretty pointless on an rk3326

[gritty iris]

I'm sure you can buy second hand for cheap?

And yes 3:2 low res kinda warrants stickless

[azure bolt]

2nd hand is usually more expensive than new here

yep, eBay offers start for the money I bought mine + shipping

you got the wrong one here Gamma

[gritty iris]

is the powkiddy typically better than r36s in terms of build quality?

[azure bolt]

r36s is... yikes

at least I have nothing that feels worse at all

[hallow ore]

Yes

[wary falcon]

The last powkiddy devices have been quite good build quality

[shut needle]

God, it feels weird to say the Powkiddy version of something is the better quality one.
But yes, the R36S is just a total failure.

[unreal hill]

The most recent 16:9 PK put out was pretty good wasn't it

[polar timber]

yeah the quality of their plastic and stuff has gotten better lately. Dpads can still be iffy but definitely better than r36s

[hallow ore]

Yeah their dpads are just a bit sloppy

Usually fixable with a bit of tape to make them less sensitive on diagonals

[polar timber]

for the price this should be a great GBA machine

[unreal hill]

Ik I'm speaking way too soon but I feel like the v10 is gonna do well

Perfect 2x GBA for that cheap

Really the only other 3:2 options are an rg351p or one of the odroids idr which one

Like pope said the 351p has no business having a stick and Anbernic still wants you to pay full price for one

I'm p excited

[hallow ore]

I am trying to stick to only one small handheld going forward and not fragment my play over a ton of different devices (we'll see how long that lasts) so I did wind up passing on this one

I'll be trying to use shaders to compensate for non-integer scaling on my SP for GBA...

[unreal hill]

Kind of a head-scratcher as to why the 35xxsp doesn't integer GBA

I reckon if you have that little "Game Boy Advance SP" overlay logo you could get away with something similar to integer but it wouldn't be the same

[hallow ore]

In the end if it integer scaled gba it would be bad for everything else given the screens available

[unreal hill]

for sure

Also I'm pretty sure the crowd that on first glance will be like "oh an SP I had one of those maybe I'll get this" aren't gonna care about perfect integer scaling lol

[hallow ore]

480p is not the end of the world for gba if you use an interpolation shader

[unreal hill]

Speaking of interpolation would would you ever want to use nearest neighbor? I've never seen it look good

Or idk if it's interpolation or not but question still stands

[hallow ore]

might look ok for games that don't scroll?

like gameboy zelda games where the whole screen changes at once when you walk off of one screen and onto another

[unreal hill]

Oh ok

[golden cypress]

Nothing on aliexpress yet right?

[ebon hawk]

You want to use nearest for games that are not pixel based or as part of a longer chain of post processing steps

[lone sail]

In for a gray, couldn't pass up on the price. Used my paypal digital debit card so I'm good on protection from scam")

[echo fable]

Did powkiddy say when they would start shipping?

[polar timber]

shape would have had to be either bigger or distinctly more rectangular to fit a 3.5 inch 3:2 screen. Sp screen had that big bezel

[hallow ore]

Some day I’d like to see a handheld use a 720x480 2.9” gba replacement screen

Would actually scale non-gba stuff well

[near geode]

that screen at like 4" would be sick too

[thin shuttle]

They're readily available - these device makers need to jump on them.

[prime atlas]

Anyone got any idea when V10’s are shipping?

I feel like someone forgot to change the preorder date on their backend and they just decided to roll with it

[unreal hill]

The only shipping option from PK was 12-20 days so who knows

[grand veldt]

Any reviews yet?

[unreal hill]

Not yet, someone will most likely post one in here whenever we get it eventually

Speaking of which since this is something you can buy now and it's (allegedly) making it's way into people's hands will it get it's own channel or get slapped in with the other PK3326 stuff

[outer heart]

They're cute

[near geode]

wait are they trying the shelf style shoulders like the RG351V?

[outer heart]

I think the intention is for ergonomics? Interested in how it feels

[unreal hill]

Oh baby that's chunky

I can't wait

[near geode]

I might buy this, it'd be a great couch side handheld for casual guff

[unreal hill]

Depending how dark it gets will decide if it's a nightstand or coffee table device

[near geode]

my 351V is already my bedside handheld

[unreal hill]

Mine is my arc

[near geode]

also the comfiest vertical handheld, fight me

[unreal hill]

Or my miyoo mini

[near geode]

the miyoo mini is too scrunched for me to use it in bed

[unreal hill]

I have the popsocket buff

[near geode]

I'm tempted to do that

[unreal hill]

It takes stuff like the og mm and the rg nano to new heights of one-handed gameplay

Would 110% recommend

[grand veldt]

Wow that purple looks pretty, like a pinkish, I think I might go with that one 😍

[near geode]

true but I want two handed for my bedside handheld

[unreal hill]

I gotcha

[near geode]

but this might be a strong contender for those who don't have a solid option yet

[unreal hill]

280v is an all-timer for me so I'm super stoked about this

[hallow ore]

405v

👊

[near geode]

get me one so I can compare ||who am I kidding I've been eyeing that wood grain one in the marketplace since it got posted||

[unreal hill]

We love the chunk

[azure bolt]

The madness that there is no purple one

[hallow ore]

that grey looks so nice

[gritty iris]

domestic market: launch window (july 3 to july 6) price 198rmb, regular price 218rmb, each unit comes with case

cheaper than r36s

best showdown will be against the r33s

[frozen quiver]

Wait, is that pink one the one that is called purple on the website? Does it look more purple in real life?

[grand veldt]

yea and its great

[frozen quiver]

I actually prefer it.

[shy rivet]

powkiddy is fond of rocknix these days

[ebon hawk]

This is way too charming, but I have no room for a device like this in my life rn.

if it runs arkOS tho

oh no

[gritty iris]

Apparently the lowest spec shipment has NO card? Does the linux stuff live on the card?

[azure bolt]

I think no card always means no games card, they usually have a sd for the system

would be odd if not

I'm a tiny bit annoyed that gogamegeek hasn't listed it yet

[rose rain]

This is a single tf card device

[outer heart]

Same as all the 3326 devices

[gritty iris]

The v10 seems to have a single card slot?

[azure bolt]

well, then I kinda expect a small card without games on it, not that I really care

[rose rain]

You need to ask the customer service to give you the system image file download

[gritty iris]

Okay then... I mean as much as I recommend preparing your own card, those less tech savvy who want it with out-of-the-box gaming test will HAVE to opt for the expensive options

[azure bolt]

First thing first would be trying to run any JELOS/AmberELEC image

the one for the rg351p/m will probably work for the most part

someone will totally match the buttons and we are good to go

[crimson wyvern]

The buttons on the transparent black look even better than in the product photos, and the lilac buttons on the transparent purple look almost gray.

I have to say the colors they picked for the v10 are all winners.

I think it's just the lighting in that pic though, I doubt the transparent purple v10 will look that pink in person.

Makes me want a true transparent pink like Kirby tilt n tumble

[brave apex]

From the back, battery easily replaceable?

[gritty iris]

should be

[deft pewter]

onlylike the SNES NA color

[unreal hill]

Damn now that I'm seeing the trans purple is more pinkish I kinda wish I bought that one

Gray still looks awesome tho

[frozen quiver]

I am here for the pink one. We don't get enough pink handhelds.

Not keen on how it looks nothing like the render, but that's the risk you run when buying a clear colour without seeing it in real life.

Honestly, it's better this way for me.

[rugged wharf]

for some weird reason this is captivating me

[shy rivet]

I bought this and it has shipped.

[fluid laurel]

do we have size comparision with rg280v ?

hm so 15 mm on each side + slightly thicker

[unreal hill]

https://fxtwitter.com/forthenextlive/status/1808422711338893778

no way there's already competition lol

idk about that dpad tho

tho running it into Console to Screen I'm seeing some nice integer scaling ngl

[prime atlas]

Smaller screen and not 3:2. I wouldn't consider this a competition for the V10 at all. More like a Miyoo Mini or 35XX+ competitor TBH

[unreal hill]

it's interesting nonetheless

[prime atlas]

Perfect for single screen DS but I don't know what else

[frozen quiver]

That screen res is crazy good for a 3.2" $40 handheld though.

[unreal hill]

some systems are gonna look real purdy on it

and for $40 it's just enough to justify on impulse lol

[frozen quiver]

Nice for integer scaling, or being so close it doesn't matter. Won't do any upscaling for $40.

But hey, it'll be a great all rounder device for $40.

The V10 will still be the $40 GBA king though.

[unreal hill]

V10 will absolutely be my new GBA, may load up a handful of favorites on the other consoles just to have em but yeah

[frozen quiver]

Games earlier than GBA take up so little space, it's sort of a why not scenario really.

Even if you never play any of them....it's taken, what, 5 mins of your time to put them there, with zero other downsides.

[gritty iris]

It's more about the scaling than anything else

[frozen quiver]

I agree. It's not going to be an ideal experience.

Then again, people can get a bit too hung up on scaling. Most people don't know/care about it.

[unreal hill]

The way my brain works having a lot of non-GBA on it would take away from what I bought the device for to begin with

You're right that it would be trivial to slap my usual libraries on it

But this is just how I wanna set it up

[austere compass]

That screen resolution looks VERY dubious

[gritty iris]

Dang, this WILL be a dedicated GBA device for you huh

Anyone with extra units just bought this for the sole purpose of GBA?

[unreal hill]

Yessir 🫡

I like other systems better on my other handhelds but I've never had something this suited for just GBA so

I wasn't around for the 351p's heyday and I'm not paying Anbernic's full price for one so here we are

[gritty iris]

Someone's shot a video doing a first impression thing

Info: D-pad and ABXY keys use conductive rubber

Sel. Sta. - and + use tactile switches

REALLY?! I wonder if it's actually ArkOS or another firmware using the ArkOS theme, but I think it could very well be the former because I haven't seen any ES firmware other than ArkOS come with this packed in

Contra test doesn't yield false diagonals in his test

Default scaling is not exactly ideal

[primal ferry]

i'm still unsure whether to dislike or love the look of that thing

[shy rivet]

I don’t think I like the battery light or volume placement

[austere compass]

that looks identical to the Arkos top bar I have on OGA (same screen)

so it is likely arkos

[gritty iris]

The thing is, the vendor page didn't didn't exactly say the - and + are actually for volume

[prime atlas]

It does

[gritty iris]

oh

I was looking at this TMALL page

And the keys say "function -" and "function +"

[primal ferry]

it looks kinda too squished to me

but who knows, maybe it's great in the hands

[unreal hill]

@gritty iris do you have a link on-hand for that first impressions vid

Ik it's all in a foreign language but I wanna see it in action

[gritty iris]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DW421X7dB/
You need an account to see it in 1080p though

[unreal hill]

Many blessings

It's just doing this

[shy rivet]

I bought this at the 198 price, I see it has sold out now

I think I will receive it this weekend

[gritty iris]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1edaDOuTiKBfM_AjSqjDjYxrgCidjRMqH/view?usp=sharing

[outer heart]

Those shoulders do look like they're helping ergonomics

[echo fable]

This is the reply I got wheb I asked when these might ship: “It's expected to be mid-July, and we're already in the midst of our second inspection and testing”

[gritty iris]

The cbepx-me repo had these?

Okay from THIS video, with the ArkOS build for this device, the - and + buttons are hotkeys

[gritty iris]

This build wants you to push + and LEFT/RIGHT on the D-pad for volume

• and UP/DOWN for brightness

Apparently the - and... something... opens the RetroArch menu

[prime atlas]

Interesting. Wonder what they’ll ship with by default

[gritty iris]

Default power config is "powersave" for some reason
Also, does ArkOS typically have the top bar?

My guess is POWERSAVE is good enough for mGBA?

[gritty iris]

It's - and X

Does any storefront page say about the weight? This video says 164 grams

Can't find one that serves international users - Baidu netdisk is... let's just say NOT catered towards international users

Seems like the shoulder buttons are designed to prevent accidental touches. Like RG35XXPlus. Good

https://pan.baidu.com/s/18A3T8Onmy5FSSnV5GNEqIQ?pwd=920g You'll need an app. Do with this info what you will.

As for other folks, do with THIS info what you will...
Again, the top bar is unusual

05242024 had R36s and RG351V releases

I doubt it, and I'm not sure if @amber needle or @woeful hinge know it either