Dropped in their server in the odin-2-info channel.
- Specs unknown apart from weight, will be revealed in May 2024 (this month)
- Not in competition with Odin 2
- Part of the Odin line of products
#AYN Odin 2 Mini
burnt knot
wide cargo
odin lite 2: actually lighter than the base/pro this time edition
burnt knot
burnt knot
Vita shaped streaming handheld, im calling it
near ruin
Odin 2-
half ibex
Those are sliders right
burnt knot
Sticks it seems
dense kettle
Why is discord meshing pictures together like this on mobile ;/
near ruin
Nah, those are their sticks
wide cargo
oh man if they were sliders I'd be interested
dense kettle
Always have to post them one at a time
burnt knot
half ibex
That looks nothing like a stick
wide cargo
Why is discord meshing pictures together like this on mobile ;/
it does that on desktop too don't worry lol
burnt knot
Yeah it's vita shaped alright lol
dense kettle
Oh man
wide cargo
wait is there no right stick???
burnt knot
It's a brightened edit
half ibex
Ngl, I hate this marketing lmao
burnt knot
Driving up the hype, prob getting more info soon
wide cargo
just the usual 'oh this is taking slightly longer than anticipated, drop some teasers so they don't blow their handheld budget on the RG cube in the meantime' stuff
dense kettle
wait is there no right stick???
It’s a silhouette
wide cargo
still heavy for a retro handheld
burnt knot
Smaller size, weaker chip so lesser cooling, definitely
wide cargo
the 556 is 330g
so that kinda snack bracket, definitely not an RP4 competitor (260g)
what's the dumbest thing it could be? "odin player 2 - a dedicated streaming handheld to stream from your odin 2 for two player games"
magic geyser
ayn micro
burnt knot
what's the dumbest thing it could be? "odin player 2 - a dedicated streaming han...
720x720 odin 2
dense kettle
For the specs to drop
burnt knot
dense kettle
Silhouette is too wide for 1:1
But if ayns designer would drop this
I’d be down for a 1:1 to kill the cube
livid spade
It's gon be a retroid 4 pro that doesn't hurt to hold tbh
half ibex
I’d be down for a 1:1 to kill the cube
If you booked a cube hurry up and get a refund /s
dense kettle
If you booked a cube hurry up and get a refund /s
Exactlyy 
burnt knot
If you have booked a pocket S, hurry up and get a refund, odin 2 lite is coming. /s
I'm gonna laugh so hard if it's actually a pocket S jab
half ibex
If it doesn’t compete with Odin 2 it won’t compete with pocket s
livid spade
Odin lite 2
half ibex
Unless they going all luxury and go oled thin
half ibex
Yeah so I don’t see it competing with either
livid spade
Leave the glass sandwich purse queens 2 ayaneo
night steppe
Shape reminds me of the TrimUi smart pro. Maybe the same size?
burnt knot
Rk3566, calling it /s
dense kettle
I don’t see a 3566 in a Odin series
If it would be Linux based they probably would go the thor route
And make it clear by naming it differently
half ibex
Rk3566, calling it /s
kms
fresh lynx
Probably just an Odin lite, in like the $200 category with a different chip
half ibex
I would just give up
livid spade
Ye
dense kettle
Also don’t see a 3588s
night steppe
I am both excited and deathly afraid at all these these new handheld announcements/teases
dense kettle
Everyone probably afraid after seeing gameforce ace
fresh lynx
New ally has my money for sure, high end Android is boring as hell with no software development
half ibex
I ain’t need development if it’s where I want it. 360 on anything isn’t really where I want it yet either way
glad onyx
Odin Portal.
Stream games from your Odin 2!
night steppe
That new Ayaneo pocket micro or whatever has my attention currently. I don’t care for Ayaneo but at least that device might be pocketable compared to this one
fresh lynx
Odin Portal.
Stream games from your Odin 2!
That's also a very strong possibility
Maybe they made a streaming device
half ibex
Fwiw streaming devices could theoretically do good, especially at a good price with good sticks
toxic abyss
Likely competing with the recently announced Ayaneo pocket micro - coincidentally announced today too 😃 good for us all.. keep it coming!! woot
restive ibex
if this is a 6 incher, then a lighter device with a 7 gen 2 or something would probably be pretty good if they could keep the price at around $200-250
but idk if theyll be doing that
toxic abyss
Ayn seems fair in pricing so hopefully good price
livid spade
Between that and ayaneo going for a premium retro device I think it's safe to assume anbernic sweating bullets rn lol
dense kettle
Dropped in their server in the odin-2-info channel.
- Specs unknown apart from ...
The device is called Odin-320g confirmed
toxic abyss
Would like to see more premium android handhelds. Hopefully next time from GPD. They've been out of the game for a while now
half ibex
Between that and ayaneo going for a premium retro device I think it's safe to as...
Why would this affect anbernic
magic geyser
thats... a dumb name, i hope its a placeholder, naming by weight is ehhhhh
livid spade
I don't see why they would want to operate in that 150-200 price point but I'm happy they focusing more so on 4:3 and now 1:1 devices to fit a niche more so
fresh lynx
It's not an official name, it's just a placeholder because what else are you going to call it? Hasn't been revealed yet
toxic abyss
likely.. hopefully just a code name
maiden acorn
Why would this affect anbernic
Because people constantly forget about how expensive AYANEO usually is.
half ibex
Unless this is oled they still have a very solid product at the 150-200 range
magic geyser
I don't see why they would want to operate in that 150-200 price point but I'm h...
because 150$ is way more palatable than 300-500$ for most people
maiden acorn
Because people constantly forget about how expensive AYANEO usually is.
Leading to them constantly thinking they’re competition and not “Game Boy Micro” levels of luxury.
dense kettle
It's not an official name, it's just a placeholder because what else are you goi...
Placeholder, full specs will be revealed this month
livid spade
They do, but I can imagine these companies are slowly gonna work their way down there is all I'm saying
toxic abyss
really curious about the spec.
livid spade
Maybe not ayaneo but I can see AYN/retroid dominating the space more so
half ibex
Ayn marketing on this and the Odin 2 gonna give me an aneurysm
maiden acorn
They do, but I can imagine these companies are slowly gonna work their way down ...
You know, I’d honestly agree with the Ayn part. But I’d put literally anyone else before I put AYANEO in that sentence.
livid spade
Ye
I know what you mean
Trust I'm an ayaneo hater lol
But I can see the flash and "luxury" aspect of it all making them metal anbernics seem a little less premium
toxic abyss
i think these are just gonna keep on coming. Ayaneo had people waiting for a long time with pocket S and all of a sudden a new android pocket micro was just announced today. I'm a fan but man.. they are expensive! best bang for the buck goes to AYN odin
livid spade
Makes sense to me
maiden acorn
i think these are just gonna keep on coming. Ayaneo had people waiting for a lon...
Them and Retroid both. I still honestly prefer bringing my RP4 Pro on trips over my Odin 2 just because it’s more portable.
livid spade
That's what I was gonna assume
burnt knot
The device is called Odin-320g confirmed
yknow what
livid spade
Them making an Odin 2 "lite" seems like a smart move for people who want a retroid alternative
restive ibex
Them making an Odin 2 "lite" seems like a smart move for people who want a retro...
take that for what you will
dense kettle
that's prob a better channel name lmao
Specs will also drop this month but not at the very end
So I assume 1-2 weeks wait time
livid spade
Alternative don't mean a competitor lol
tiny summit
vita inspired?
dense kettle
Lots of things being teased right now
livid spade
Rip
I liked the Loki I would have wanted a second stab at it
Idk if they ever will do that now
half ibex
Calling 200-230
livid spade
timber drum
That looks nothing like a stick
It looks like the same stick they’re using for the Odin
fresh lynx
I think they're done with x86 for the time being
toxic abyss
AYN makes good android devices but x86 is on another level. Although the loki max still impressed me! If you have one for sale by the way hit me up 😄 LOL
timber drum
One stick makes it seem like this may be a smaller device
burnt knot
it's not one stick 
half ibex
Can’t believe this is only one stick
dense kettle
AYN makes good android devices but x86 is on another level. Although the loki ma...
Pretty sure the waiting and production time was what killed loki instead of the actually quality of it
timber drum
Odin: all sticks edition
half ibex
Underdelivered
10 year old chip incoming
timber drum
Odin flip when
fresh lynx
I can't believe they made a device with only three sticks
outer pilot
Odin: one stick to rule them all
burnt knot
from what I've heard, Loki's software support was also lacking, thing didn't get a lot of updates
burnt knot
also, fuck em for doing a ping in the ayn info channel, I legit thought it was the OTA dropping
toxic abyss
hopefully under $200
maiden acorn
I'll be different, sub $200
Agreed big time.
fresh lynx
Considering they were selling the original Odin for $200 up until recently, I don't see this being under 200
outer pilot
~~also, fuck em for doing a ping in the ayn info channel, I legit thought it was...
Dude same
I was excited cause I want to play my Odin 2 again
livid spade
Yeah I'm imagining $230-$250 and if it's as small as I think it's gon be, I don't think they care about it encroaching on the Odin 2 market
near ruin
I can't see it above $200 because then it's a weird place between the OG Odin and the Odin 2
half ibex
Odin t618 edition
near ruin
Like a dimensity 1200? For $250? Who'll buy that over an Odin 2?
maiden acorn
Like a dimensity 1200? For $250? Who'll buy that over an Odin 2?
Hell, who would buy that over an RP4 Pro?
toxic abyss
if its around the same size of rp4pro it could go as $199
timber drum
I was excited cause I want to play my Odin 2 again
What’s stopping you out of curiosity?
dense kettle
Odin t618 edition
Ayn is closest to qualcomm surely they can get G3X Gen 1 at a discounted price
near ruin
There's no room for a over $200 handheld. Could be wrong, but I don't see it
dense kettle
So we can finally put the razer edge and pimax aside
toxic abyss
with so many competing devices i really hope its under $200
half ibex
Ayn is closest to qualcomm surely they can get G3X Gen 1 at a discounted price
Actually not the worst theory
outer pilot
What’s stopping you out of curiosity?
volume
next OTA is going to fix that supposedly
literally cant play it because 1 tick up from mute is too loud
maiden acorn
Actually not the worst theory
See, now that I can actually see being justifiably $220-$250 as well as being the same as the Odin 2 in price : performance.
rare dust
so are we thinking less powerful than Odin 2, more powerful than rp4p?
maiden acorn
See, now that I can actually see being justifiably $220-$250 as well as being th...
T820? Would be an awful deal in comparison to the RG556 ($180 for an OLED screen and comfortable design) and the future RG Cube ($140 for a neat 1:1 device that plays 3DS very well).
D1200? Not only is that an awful deal compared to the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, it’s also a bad deal since you can save $50 more for an Odin 2 and have SD 8 Gen 2.
dawn yarrow
G99 handheld
half ibex
See, now that I can actually see being justifiably $220-$250 as well as being th...
That would be a really good chip at about 200 ish. 250 still is a hard sell without oled
burnt knot
so are we thinking less powerful than Odin 2, more powerful than rp4p?
probably in the middle, yes
rare dust
It's gotta be more than the t820 no? otherwise why take pride on the weight when the rg556 already exists
burnt knot
T820? Would be an awful deal in comparison to the RG556 ($180 for an OLED screen...
they're probably getting a much newer chip
dawn yarrow
If it’s over 200 it will be too much
burnt knot
they did get a sd8gen2 when the rest of the scene was still dreaming about that level of performance
maiden acorn
they're probably getting a much newer chip
Fair, we’ll probably just have to see what they use and what the official price is.
shut spoke
Ayn Odin 320 grams?
burnt knot
If it’s over 200 it will be too much
no way it's not below that tbh
maiden acorn
Fair, we’ll probably just have to see what they use and what the official price ...
Since the $220-$250 already is honestly just speculation.
dawn yarrow
no way it's not below that tbh
Then what’s the point
burnt knot
a lesser and smaller odin 2 but still more powerful than the rp4p?
we need more specs to tell tbh
near ruin
I don't see point in anything but a mid performance sub 200 device
dawn yarrow
Why not just get a Odin base then for a couple dollars more. The 180-200 price point is open for a decent handheld
maiden acorn
Then what’s the point
We don’t even know yet, they literally only showed a silhouette and 360g.
dense kettle
we need more specs to tell tbh
Let’s wait one week 
dense kettle
I don't see point in anything but a mid performance sub 200 device
Mid performance on snapdragon would still be decent
Gotta have those custom gpu drivers
half ibex
Let’s wait one week <:linkyay:917524292428763137>
Just keep going, I can wait till may 10th…11th?….12th?
dawn yarrow
We don’t even know yet, they literally only showed a silhouette and 360g.
True and I hate when this is done. But people love it
near ruin
More powerful than a T820 at sub 200 is a spot
near ruin
The 556 is really good, it makes competing tough
dawn yarrow
What does the primax have in it?
half ibex
Still calling 200-230
burnt knot
D1200 or XR2 no?
maiden acorn
The 556 is really good, it makes competing tough
See that’s why I’m honestly still dumbfounded by that claim of a D1200 device for $250.
dense kettle
D1200 or XR2 no?
Isn’t the xr2 a be headset chip
burnt knot
it flopped so fucking hard
half ibex
See that’s why I’m honestly still dumbfounded by that claim of a D1200 device fo...
Would have to be oled minimum
maiden acorn
Would have to be oled minimum
Not even, you’d be getting Mediatek jank ruining the screen.
dawn yarrow
But the SOC was a cheaper SD in primax
half ibex
it flopped so fucking hard
What’s crazy is they actually listened, made a retro that was competitively priced, and that still flopped cause of their software
dawn yarrow
Android 10 keeping it down
dawn yarrow
For the pimax
burnt knot
that too
burnt knot
odin pro being 10
odin lite being 11
part of me thinks they may be sunsetting the odin 1
maiden acorn
Not even, you’d be getting Mediatek jank ruining the screen.
Like, I love the RP4 Pro, I will not deny that, but it is not enough to make me not a Mediatek hater for the simple fact that every single handheld that used one has had screen problems, and everyone always blames the screens before they blame the Mediatek chip.
burnt knot
and replacing it with this thing
dawn yarrow
Like, I love the RP4 Pro, I will not deny that, but it is not enough to make me ...
Then what is causing ghosting on the Odin2?
burnt knot
for that, probably just the panel itself
maiden acorn
for that, probably just the panel itself
Yup, when I say “screen problems”, I mean “much more noticeable than normal problems”.
Like, Gamma literally outright confirmed the issue was with the Dimensity chips reacting weird to any refresh rate that isn’t what they expect.
languid steeple
If it is 7" streaming handheld would be cool
I still can't get a cheap g cloud for streaming on my bed
dawn yarrow
If it is 7" streaming handheld would be cool
I still can't get a cheap g cloud f...
Better screen and hardware
burnt knot
don't g clouds hover at like
160-180 nowadays
also assuming they're using the same sticks, it's closer to the rp4p in size
dawn yarrow
Why if this is over 200. It's in a horrible price point
timber drum
Why if this is over 200. It's in a horrible price point
It costs 320 g.
burnt knot
lmao they had us in the first half
stone vector
Is this a hint at a possible OLED?
stoic solstice
5.5" then
queen rose
Man the last couple weeks have been nuts for handheld news.
outer pilot
is it bad that the only thing im even remotely excited for is the RG35XX SP
dense kettle
Man the last couple weeks have been nuts for handheld news.
Time for another podcast
queen rose
~~is it bad that the only thing im even remotely excited for is the RG35XX SP~~
Still my frontrunner but all these device teasers dropping in the last few days…
restive ibex
my odin 2 preorder impulses tell me i should be excited for this, but..
there is literally nothing that would make this better than the odin 2 i already have
outer pilot
^
restive ibex
im just getting flashbacks to the 845 days i guess
maiden acorn
~~is it bad that the only thing im even remotely excited for is the RG35XX SP~~
Nah, I’m also excited for a legit really good clamshell emulation handheld.
outer pilot
a more powerful chip doesnt make sense tbh.... theres nothing that can use the full power of odin2s chip anyway....
dense kettle
~~is it bad that the only thing im even remotely excited for is the RG35XX SP~~
Well it makes sense to be exited for a small compact and protected retro gaming machine you can take anywhere and can play anytime
maiden acorn
Well it makes sense to be exited for a small compact and protected retro gaming ...
Especially one that looks as good as these.
dense kettle
That’s why the original miyoo mini was so popular
restive ibex
silver is the only correct option
outer pilot
Nah, I’m also excited for a legit really good clamshell emulation handheld.
man the real question is do i got silver for that sp platinum nostalgia, DMG for the eventual sakura mods SFC button/decal pack or the transparent black/blue with button mods
maiden acorn
Especially one that looks as good as these.
I still dislike how that image doesn’t do the silver one justice.
dense kettle
silver is the only correct option
I feel like the transparent ones could look prettier with different buttons
restive ibex
i now understand why so many people are incredibly anal about DMG and SNES colouring
dense kettle
Maybe Sakura will cook up something
restive ibex
because i have never felt so strongly about a colour on a cheap chinese handheld emulator thingymajig before
outer pilot
oh i imagine sakura will... and if what people are saying that the triggers are the same as 28xx then we will also have options there
dense kettle
I need someone to make transparent buttons for the transparent shells
dense kettle
i now understand why so many people are incredibly anal about DMG and SNES colou...
What does it mean to be incredibly anal about something
I don’t understand
maiden acorn
Maybe Sakura will cook up something
Imagine if they make N64-themed buttons for the Midnight Blue N64 color scheme.
dense kettle
What does it mean to be incredibly anal about something
English is not my first language
restive ibex
What does it mean to be incredibly anal about something
particular, incessant, stubborn
basically just "annoyingly specific"
restive ibex
"wont shut the fuck up"
dense kettle
Imagine if they make N64-themed buttons for the Midnight Blue N64 color scheme.
Oh yeah baby
restive ibex
im overblowing it a bit, i dont find it that annoying personally but its just funny how many people ive seen get upset over the colour of a button
but i guess i get it now
half ibex
160-180 nowadays
More, you can get lucky on the used
half ibex
What does it mean to be incredibly anal about something
A pain in the ass 
burnt knot
More, you can get lucky on the used
just saw one listed for 170 about an hour ago 
don't need it but goddamn
livid spade
I seen g clouds go for 150 here
Them and Playstation portals keep popping up constantly here
No clue what the people who bought em thought they was
maiden acorn
Them and Playstation portals keep popping up constantly here
Hah! Knew it.
half ibex
Them and Playstation portals keep popping up constantly here
Would take it over the portal any day of the week
livid spade
No doubt but I mean more so "premium" devices from a big brand made for streaming
maiden acorn
No clue what the people who bought em thought they was
That’s exactly what I kept saying, but “no, people totally got them for families who need the tv for other stuff(even though I know for a fact my parents would’ve just got a phone gamepad and told me to use that)” is what I kept getting as a response.
livid spade
Avg consumer buys em expecting it to be a Nintendo switch with the power of a ps5 lol
half ibex
Lmao
livid spade
That's all I can think of
maiden acorn
That’s exactly what I kept saying, but “no, people totally got them for families...
“There’s no way people wouldn’t realize it’s a streaming-only handheld that can’t play anything on its own”.
livid spade
Assume logitech and Sony fans are not exclusively redditors
maiden acorn
“There’s no way people wouldn’t realize it’s a streaming-only handheld that can’...
“There’s no way people wouldn’t know it only works with the PS5 and not the PS4 even though the official app works with both”.
livid spade
G cloud screen is lovely though
I wish it had slightly more power
Like one generation up
Not sure I'd ever get one cuz of the dpad from when I tried it at the store but it seemed like a good bit of kit
outer pilot
im not assuming that more or less if you are here and on the subs then either you got it specifically for streaming or it met your specific goals...albeit it at a higher price than other options
but the portal is basically something that just doesnt make sense to me
luckily from what i could tell most people felt the same way
maiden acorn
but the portal is basically something that just doesnt make sense to me
It’s legitimately just so fucking stupid!
maiden acorn
Scammin dudes is a tale as old as time
I’m just salty at the near countless Sony fans that kept pointing at the sales as if that’s ever been a sign of something being good.
Because every time I pointed out how their excuses don’t work, their literal only response was just that freaking “sold out everywhere” bs.
livid spade
Gotta ignore brand loyalty consumers that be festering online tbh
maiden acorn
One of my favorite game franchises was literally killed off by the worst game in the series having the most sales, which led to everyone who hadn’t played the earlier games disliking the series from their first try.
maiden acorn
Gotta ignore brand loyalty consumers that be festering online tbh
The annoying thing was that I had those arguments even with people who weren’t explicitly Sony fans, they just thought it made sense as a luxury option.
livid spade
....paper mario?
maiden acorn
....paper mario?
Mega Man Battle Network.
livid spade
Bn4
maiden acorn
The 4th games were the highest sales any game in the series ever had.
maiden acorn
The 4th games were the highest sales any game in the series ever had.
And that record caused so much harm for the series’s goodwill that it also took down Star Force, Battle Network’s legit chronological sequel series, with it. That’s my legit favorite series simply because they fixed most of the issues in the story stuff with Geo.
livid spade
I even see fans get really bad at star force but it just comes off as being bitter lol
Ig companies can only get away with so much before squandering fan reception
Not sure how certain loyalists have managed to stay so attached to their brands
Then again
We exist in a world where ayaneos still fly off the shelves
novel raft
sits and waits for more info to drop
obtuse grotto
all of this 1-upping... we just want to play games
half ibex
Saw this on Reddit, this ayns or just a fan treatment
mint cipher
16:9?
mint cipher
Mm can’t see how this can differentiate itself much from what’s currently out
half ibex
Oh wait Reddit says 3:2
tiny summit
3:2 is hot
half ibex
I’d have to check their discord
mint cipher
Ok well in that case /whips outt wallet
tiny summit
3:2 might just be my favorite aspect ratio tbh
half ibex
Couldn’t find it in the ayn discord so likely speculation on both pic and comment, I’ll snoop a little more
restive ibex
Saw this on Reddit, this ayns or just a fan treatment
havent seen that on the server, its probably just a mockup
half ibex
Yup thinking so
half ibex
Could it just be another Odin 2 model?
They specifically stated not a competitor, but it’s specifically in the Odin 2 section
mint cipher
Owning both a RP4P and Odin2, honestly the size difference isn’t big enough to justify owning both, especially when the SOC is similar enough in power to play similar games. So not sure what to think when they say it’s not a competitor to Odin 2 or even the RP4P
half ibex
Yeah but not a competitor to the Odin 2 doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not another Odin 2 right
mint cipher
Yeah fair. lol.
half ibex
Like idk a 3ds xl doesn’t compete with a 3ds
glad onyx
Saw this on Reddit, this ayns or just a fan treatment
Looks fake to me. Big offset on the left between stick and dpad, almost no offset on the right
wheat phoenix
glad onyx
Looks fake to me. Big offset on the left between stick and dpad, almost no offset on the right
keen nest
Fake image, no designer in their right mind would have a bright white screen like this while the product is in complete darkness.
winged turret
Loki Slide
tiny summit
oh no lol
barren canopy
What the vita
west shell
If the screen looks too wide with 3:2(13.5:9), it's definitely not a 16:9. So, it's a 4:3(12:9)?
dense kettle
Saw this on Reddit, this ayns or just a fan treatment
Besides the obvious edit
No one on Ayn is allowed to reveal anything until later this month
Like u wouldn’t believe this is real
steady matrix
burnt knot
sure hope this thing releasing doesn't mean the odin 2 gets less OTAs
they're not a big company
outer pilot
sure hope this thing releasing doesn't mean the odin 2 gets less OTAs <:sweat:51...
same.... and im still kinda sad that the ping i saw wasnt the OTA update
bronze oxide
sure hope this thing releasing doesn't mean the odin 2 gets less OTAs <:sweat:51...
What OTAs does the Odin 2 still need?
burnt knot
lowering the volume overall since the new minimum is a bit higher
that's honestly the last thing needed to get to a "stable" state
burnt knot
would be cool if they also made a new factory image for this new update
supple turret
They still have a issue with the wifi but it's not that serious
hearty epoch
Fake image, no designer in their right mind would have a bright white screen lik...
Also not looking anything like what ayn does for software. They do the bare minimum to be functional leaving launchers and frontends to existing 3rd party software.
hearty epoch
What OTAs does the Odin 2 still need?
Fix their ota issues, wifi problems, ideally add controller support to the popout menu and bind it to single press of the home button.
outer pilot
i mean.... would be weird to have inline analog/buttons on the right and offset on the left.....
hearty epoch
A bit yea
outer pilot
also huh....what wifi problems?
hearty epoch
For me atleast it hasnt recognized sign in pages for a few months.
outer pilot
ahh
hearty epoch
So if i dont know the domain im SoL
supple turret
Stutter from streaming and very high ping
hearty epoch
And a lot of places with sign ins nowadays change from the defualt, atleast around here.
supple turret
It has been mentioned before to them so idk when they Will get to it
hearty epoch
I think the ota issue need to be addressed tho. Their updater app sucks. Fails a lot, will get stuck while updating without any indication that anything is happening, and sometimes itll even do the update but never change anything on screen appearing as if its just perpetually updating.
They are also slow as hell. Compared to other android device updates they are a fraction of the size but take 100x longer.
burnt knot
It has been mentioned before to them so idk when they Will get to it
iirc they've been trying to get people to send their o2 for troubleshooting because they can't reproduce
supple turret
Well I know it's not a user thing because all my other devices don't have a issue so I hope they have some sort of fix in the future I'm not torn by it though
outer pilot
Inb4 the May update becomes the June update
still yarrow
Trimui smart pro 2
That joystick placement makes me feel like it makes the d pad obsolete without grips, once again 
ember wadi
so is this 3:2 with top stick or is that fake??? they do have a 3:2 screen from the bottom screen of the flip ds
wide cargo
so is this 3:2 with top stick or is that fake??? they do have a 3:2 screen from ...
ayaneo made the flip DS this is ayn
still yarrow
so is this 3:2 with top stick or is that fake??? they do have a 3:2 screen from ...
It’s fake
wide cargo
and it looks too big for a 3.5" screen
ember wadi
oh wait im dumb
still yarrow
It could be but we don’t know at all yet
rugged peak
so is this 3:2 with top stick or is that fake??? they do have a 3:2 screen from ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1cojmlc/ayn_has_a_new_machine_coming_out_with_a_32_screen/
it's assumed that is a fake render. that's the only post made by a newly created reddit account
ember wadi
yeah i was like i thought ayaneo were doing this but i was thinking of the ayaneo micro lol
still yarrow
That one is interesting
dawn yarrow
outer pilot
fake
rare dust
faker than fake
fresh lynx
The fact anyone even considered it was real for a moment is rather concerning. The d-pad and right stick are way too low and why would anyone show off a darkened device with a super bright screen like that
dense kettle
The fact anyone even considered it was real for a moment is rather concerning. T...
They would only show the full control layout alongside removing the silhouette, I agree
dawn yarrow
I was just trolling with it because it just kept getting shared. The photo shop is so bad on it.
fresh lynx
True
half ibex
Nothing new ay?
crystal knot
yeah ayn's not the kind of company that would tease a device and reveal it the next day
they take their sweet time
glass holly
I'm just surprised they haven't started taking people's money yet
crystal knot
they learned from that loki disaster
half ibex
they take their sweet time
Pain
dawn yarrow
they learned from that loki disaster
Looks like they are trying the same shit they did with the Loki. Look at our stuff. Here is No information maybe at the end of the month we will say something. This left a bad taste in my mouth over the Loki and it will with this if it take 6 months of teasing and waiting. Odin 2 came out fast because the shell and the ideas from the Odin worked well
crystal knot
personally I'm indifferent until they start collecting people's money
dawn yarrow
After the Odin lite and Loki(request refunds before either shipped) I have a bad taste for AYN. Maybe this one will be better.
fallow magnet
I’m interested, and really like my Loki Max, but will definitely not be preordering
graceful glen
If they maintain the pace similar to Odin 2 from initial reveal to delivery, should be fine.
hasty widget
Yeah Odin 2 was wild and it really felt like they learned everything they needed to
dawn yarrow
Hopefully they use a decent screen this time
dawn yarrow
Ghosting screens aren't decent.
dense kettle
werent there a bunch of odin 2 screens reported showing vertical line after some while too
or is problem widespread enough to be worrying
the ghosting however seems to be apparent pretty consistently on all kinds of odin 2s
tiny summit
You know what doesn't have ghosting problems? OLED 😏
dense kettle
You know what doesn't have ghosting problems? OLED 😏
tranquil osprey
the ghosting however seems to be apparent pretty consistently on all kinds of od...
How bad is it compared to the RP4P? because it looks terrible on my RP4P.
dense kettle
How bad is it compared to the RP4P? because it looks terrible on my RP4P.
Ask this guy @vital maple bro has both 🤔
tranquil osprey
oof... I've got an odin 2 coming in the mail tomorrow and I was hoping ghosting wouldn't be an issue like it is on the RP4 
dense kettle
its worse xD
tranquil osprey
lmao
tranquil osprey
lol thanks
dawn yarrow
I am sure you will be fine. Most people say they can't even tell
half ibex
Nothing new right?
wide cargo
my odin 2 is not my best LCD for ghosting but it's far from my worst
dense kettle
the odin 2 is much better than the RP4P
tough for retroid
small screen
ghosting
thick and unevenly thick bezels
half ibex
Ghosting in a 200+ device is wild in 2024
dense kettle
at least be symmetric bezels
wide cargo
Ghosting in a 200+ device is wild in 2024
All LCDs ghost, just a matter of how much
Both the RP4P and the odin 2 seem to show it far more in menus than they do in gameplay
But it does appear to be an android issue in general around the shitty closed kernels unisoc et all provide
Since the rp3+ doesn’t have the issues the rp4p does
The d900/1100 seems really picky about getting screens to work and the community can’t help at all
outer pilot
Odin 2 I don't really notice ghosting
Then again when I think ghosting I think PSP level screens
outer pilot
Since the rp3+ doesn’t have the issues the rp4p does
Man I didn't notice any ghosting there either
On the RP3+ that is
But I've heard about the RP4P
burnt knot
Fuck
outer pilot
?
outer pilot
Boot Linux on the Odin 2 or....
burnt knot
Ye
burnt knot
It's so scuffed but I love that there's a community for it
outer pilot
Why hasn't anyone made it boot an image stored on sdcard for example... Feels so bad having to write an image to sdcard lol
I'm half way tempted to do it too
But I haven't seen any progress in regards to the audio situation for example
burnt knot
Waiting for someone to make an image for that
outer pilot
Waiting for someone to make an image for that
It baffles me because it would technically be easier to deal with lol
half ibex
All LCDs ghost, just a matter of how much
Sorry, noticeable to the point I’ve seen many reports on it
modern briar
dense kettle
Mini LED
This has to compete with the pocket s then
Surely not that kind of display in a weaker device
Reuse 8 Gen 2 or use G3X Gen 2
modern briar
either that or against the pocket micro (whatever that is)
wary horizon
yeah that's definitely "competing against odin 2" territory
wary horizon
maybe what he really meant was it doesn't make odin 2 obsolete/isn't a direct successor
modern briar
rp4p was too small, odin 2 is just right. Im not buying another handheld till its obsolete
dense kettle
Maybe it’s weaker and meant to stream games instead
And supposed to make streamed games really good
tiny summit
Mini LED
mini LED could be a red flag, tends to have higher response times so could have ghosting issues 😬
dense kettle
True
umbral magnet
Not meant to compete with the Odin 2 because it will cost 2x as much.
dense kettle
mini LED could be a red flag, tends to have higher response times so could have ...
Is that compared to ips
Because
tiny summit
Is that compared to ips
yeah
dense kettle
Obviously oled hast the best response times
tiny summit
right oled has negligible response times, but yeah lots of mini LED displays have worse response times than even IPS
the best mini LED displays have similar response times to the best IPS displays
but like, macbook pro displays have horrible response times
dense kettle
but like, macbook pro displays have *horrible* response times
Response times are bad to begin with….. on a streaming handheld
(I really hope it won’t be for streaming)
magic geyser
people keep wanting their stuff to look good instead of play good and we gonna get to a reallly "FUN" time soon lol
where stuff looks great but plays like ass
tiny summit
Response times are bad to begin with….. on a streaming handheld
not on oled! 😊
magic geyser
just like current gen modern consoles
dense kettle
not on oled! 😊
We don’t have oled though :/
And now it has been confirmed
I wonder if this screen is like 1440p or 4K
west shell
I've lost interest on this device already. The Odin 2 will suffice for now.
magic geyser
was about to say that 😄
dense kettle
Apparently it’s not better or worse
magic geyser
they said it wasnt gonna compete with it
dense kettle
But „different“
umbral magnet
Maybe it's an x86 device
west shell
What's different? It's lighter and has minileds. Has a very uncomfortable shape, probably also looses the grip.
umbral magnet
Then again it's only 320g lol
half ibex
Dam mini led is kind of disappointing
dense kettle
Wrong one sry
burnt knot
Mini LED at that size surprises me ngl
we'll have to see
possible...it's really a streaming device
west shell
Maybe if they price it right, they'll add a few more customers.
dense kettle
Maybe it's an x86 device
burnt knot
please no
west shell
They confirmed it was not an odin 3
half ibex
Oled screen would’ve been the easiest layup, dam
umbral magnet
What's the Odin 2 weight
brisk ember
My guess is this one is a competitor to ayaneo pocket micro
brisk ember
Flagship: odin2 vs pocket s
dense kettle
My guess is this one is a competitor to ayaneo pocket micro
We‘ll find out in 5-6 days
night steppe
My guess is this one is a competitor to ayaneo pocket micro
This thing definitely can’t fit in a pocket
glass holly
I want macroled
brisk ember
Do we know the size of pocket micro
night steppe
No but it looks pretty thin
modern briar
theres possibly more info in the ayaneo server but i refuse to go in there
tiny summit
sad about the high profile sticks
robust flower
tiny summit
bruh lol
stone vector
#1238307237748015124 message
stone vector
robust flower
AYN Odin "MINILED"
robust flower
fervent elm
They have my attention
robust flower
glass holly
When are they going to reveal if it's ugly or not, I can't tell yet
hearty epoch
Considering this looks like a sub 5 in screen i can't imagine mini LED looks much better than ips. Its already super unimpressive on tablets. And thisll be half that size.
Even at 7in like aya planned for the ayaneo 2 i wouldn't even consider it because mini led at that size is just ugly. Gonna need another generational leap or 2 before it's actually ready for screens smaller than bigish tablets.
outer pilot
i dont think its sub 5
this looks more like 5-5.5
slightly larger than RP4P
terrible overlay
but
im gonna go with 5.5"
hearty epoch
Match the stick size. They use identical sticks
outer pilot
could be 6" but yea guess time will tell since its only less than 3 weeks till we know it all i suppose lol
keen heart
5.5" will be a perfect size for me
hearty epoch
0% chance it's 6 based on that overlay if the render is acturate. And that still doesn't really charge the problem ive used really good 12 in miniled displays and they suck. Sure they get some perfect blacks but if theres a lot of dark on screen the image looks horrible and if theres a lot of bright areas then you wont get any perfect blacks. Just results in an ips screen that looks poorly maufactured due to all the agressive blooming around anything with any amount of light.
outer pilot
right
hearty epoch
Largest i would guess from the render is 5-5.5, it looks noticably smaller than odin with a smaller screen to body ratio.
outer pilot
yup
im putting it on 5.5"
but even then i can find a miniLED that fits those kinds of specs
oled sure
hearty epoch
I dont know why the 5.5in oled thats in the pocket air or the one thats being used for the oled switch lite mod isnt used more in these handhleds.
wide cargo
0% chance it's 6 based on that overlay if the render is acturate. And that still...
that bloom is just a built in CRT effect
perfect for NES
hearty epoch
Integer scaled oled with scanlines or grid is perfect for retro stuff. I hate bloom on displays,its also just looks so much more noticable on miniled, even larger ones small ones it actually ruins it for me.
And thats why oled will be king forever.
olive thicket
I dont know why the 5.5in oled thats in the pocket air or the one thats being us...
I really hope that Taki releases that OLED Switch Lite mod.
hearty epoch
Didnt he just get an early sample from someone else who was working on it.
olive thicket
He has at least one he showed off in a video.
hearty epoch
And same, as soon as its available im doing a full shell swap and learning to solder so i can put in a mod chip
olive thicket
I'm going to buy a Switch Lite just for the mod. You can easily get them used for under $100.
hearty epoch
Yeah picked mine up at gamestop for $130. It was in pretty rough shape but has no drift, no screen scratches, so i just put a skin and screen protector so its like new.
But i want a transparent purple shell with that oled screen.
A big part of the reason im picking up the Pocket S depsite having an odin 2 is because of the switch lite, the other reason being storage, tho i still would have preferred it being a full handheld, eith just a upgraded pocket air or put it in a air plus shell with the new screen.
olive thicket
If they had released an upgraded pocket Air instead it would have been an insta-buy for me. I'm still waiting for reviews to see how the battery live, controls, and cooling are. I'm hoping that if I wait long enough Ayn will release an Odin 2 + / Odin 3 with a better screen. They've announced a new flagship handheld every summer around June or July.
hearty epoch
Battery life is in, low of about 2 hours in demanding switch. Kinda rough but could be worse i guess.
Should also mention there is some saving grace in that charge times should be 30-40 minutes with an appropriate charger going off battery capacity and reported charge rates from aya
outer pilot
?
sweet dagger
Mini LED is awesome. I find it is the best mix of price, durability, and image quality of all the screen technologoes today. Nowadays, I want my devices to last longer without requiring constant babying so Im starting to not prefer OLED.
tiny summit
if mini LED had OLED response times I'd be all over it
tiny salmon
Imagine if this has a slide up screen to reveal a keyboard like gpd win 4 😅 one can dream
Excuse my poor edit 😂😂😂
clever path
Imagine if this has a slide up screen to reveal a keyboard like gpd win 4 😅 one...
What's the dream of having a QWERTY keyboard on a gaming handheld? A dedicated Zork machine?
(genuinely curious)
tiny salmon
What's the dream of having a QWERTY keyboard on a gaming handheld? A dedicated Z...
Hate touch keyboards, so physical keyboard is always a dream for me on any device 😅
clever path
Yeah, but I mean, apart from entering Wi-Fi password and RA/ScreenScraper credentials what's the use?
tiny salmon
Some games like pokemon can use text input. Also keyboard shorcuts could be handy i.e one button quick save etc and also search for games would be quicker if you have a lot of games on device
Android games too use text input
Like a say, its a personal dream, but know its unlikely 😅
Software keyboard take up whole or most of screen real estate. Which can be infuriating when doing long text input
clever path
Yeah, feels a bit overkill to have a whole physical keyboard just so that you can give nicknames to pokemon a lot faster 😄
But I get it, personal preference
half ibex
Yeah, but I mean, apart from entering Wi-Fi password and RA/ScreenScraper creden...
Near 0
dawn yarrow
My brain changes "miniled" to MID when I read it
half ibex
I meaaaannnnn
charred spear
is this a 16:9 screen?
tiny summit
My brain changes "miniled" to MID when I read it
do you have dyslexia because that would explain that
dawn yarrow
do you have dyslexia because that would explain that
I do.
tiny summit
I do.
my 7 year old niece just got diagnosed! Got any advice to potentially help make her life easier? 🙂
dawn yarrow
Just going to have work harder then most at every thing. I am in my 40s now. So I just used to it. I still say and structure things different than than common people. For a 7 year old. I would say just take her time. She will learn to pay a lot more attention to detail. Than others have to. Because the details matter more. Puzzle games help me a lot seeing the patterns for things.
tiny summit
her birthday's coming up so I might have to get her something that gets her thinking about pattern recognition for that 🤔
glad onyx
Hmmm I just use an infinity stone to alter reality into whatever I misread something as
tiny summit
that's nice 😄
rare dust
155% sRGB gamut coverage sounds pretty impressive
that's above the steam deck OLED
does this mean it'll be as good as an OLED? hard to say yet but potentially
at least in terms of colour reproduction, no idea about response times
but I think it's an easy bet to make that this will be a notch above the Odin 2 screen
maiden acorn
but I think it's an easy bet to make that this will be a notch above the Odin 2 ...
Ironically enough it actually might end up being worse in response time depending on the quality of the MiniLED panel.
rare dust
hopefully not, for the Odin 2 they manufactured new panels, so I have to imagine these minileds will be new too
maiden acorn
hopefully not, for the Odin 2 they manufactured new panels, so I have to imagine...
I mean, even if it’s newly manufactured, then that might still be bad for whoever is sensitive to that stuff, since you’ve still got a couple people complaining about ghosting on the Odin 2.
outer pilot
very interesting
tiny summit
vita inspired?
nailed it day 1
outer pilot
well yea
tiny summit
looks gorgeous tbh
outer pilot
first thing i did was picked up my vita and noticed that the curves matched and the same with the cutout on triggers
lol
tiny summit
looks bigger tho
paper bough
Vita inspired? That is a vita
tiny summit
prob not for me
crystal knot
I'll probably pass
crystal knot
vita form works best with vita size
dense kettle
vita form works best with vita size
well said
tiny summit
brb gonna boot up my vita, feeling some type of way
outer pilot
Looks like no l2 r2?
probably there
ember wadi
xbox layout screams "streaming-focused" to me yeah lol
half ibex
probably there
Need to see the receipts
night steppe
Somebody get Russ in here since he absolutely loves the vita lol
timber drum
I wonder if the d pad is the same size as the Odin 2s
Could get folks to mod their buttons and D-pad into clear ones
I also appreciate that ayn went with a less offensive typeface for the button legends
stone vector
@empty gust time to bring back your old name
robust flower
Thanks goodness we didn't have to change the name again
stone vector
Thanks goodness we didn't have to change the name again
Ayn Odin Vita
robust flower
😂
languid steeple
I doubt can this one thin like a vita2K
fallow magnet
I want now
glass holly
I want later
fallow magnet
I want later
Ok I am defintely waiting for reviews and other poeple to have it in hand for awhile before I would buy this. But I have been debating buying a RP4pro or Odin 2 for awhile now, but the retroid has in my option to small a screen for what I want to do, and the Odin 2 is just a tad to big for the portability I want.
This looks like it would fit in the niche nicelt.
glass holly
This thing seems like it's going to cramp your hand just as bad as the vitas
fallow magnet
What are they gonna call it I wonder? Is odin for sure in the name? Or will they expand the Norse mythology naming scheme with a Hela or something?
dense kettle
What are they gonna call it I wonder? Is odin for sure in the name? Or will they...
It’s in Odin 2 info so probably not
graceful glen
Probably Odin 2 lite? Maybe they will do a clearance sale for the Odin 1 once this is released.
burnt knot
lmao odin 2 lite for sure then
rustic quarry
It’s supposed to be much larger than a real vita, right?
sweet dagger
Another Vita clone that refuses to copy the dpad placement 😥
outer pilot
so far the interesting things are that its very much so vita inspired, has an xbox layout and is 100g lighter than an odin 2.... the stuff thats still a question is screen size and chipset at this point id imagine
tiny summit
top joystick better imo
outer pilot
and battery size
screen looks to be 5.5"
and as someone pointed out earlier the pimax had a 5.5" miniLED display so....wonder if they are sourcing it there?
that said who knows
itll be interesting to see what chip is in this and its battery size
as the biggest selling point on odin 2 is battery and perf...
modern briar
I mean assuming they use the same sticks, surprised someone hasnt measured out the screen already
outer pilot
i did a general overlay and estimated probably a 5.5"
though now that i have an actual full image...
@modern briar huh
if that dpad is anything to go by...
i may have to change my thought
queen rose
Bye trimui smart pro…
lol
Nice knowing ya
Although dpad bottom on vita is a bold choice.
outer pilot
i love how the bottom 4 buttons basically line up
quiet valve
NGL man this is tempting i was going to wait until next year for the RP5Pro lol
hearty epoch
does this mean it'll be as good as an OLED? hard to say yet but potentially
100% not, even tvs there is a noticable diffference between oled and miniled, laptops exist too and the general concesus is that they suck compared to oled, on something like this that like 5-5.5in it will be terrible
quiet valve
i need to see the final product and chipset once it launches
serene isle
Rumored the CPU is 8gen2
queen rose
I’m doubting that
How would they cool that on that small size. Aya barely keeping similar chip from nuclear in the pocket s.
queen rose
But why shape a streaming handheld like that instead of more ergonomic
wide cargo
How would they cool that on that small size. Aya barely keeping similar chip fro...
loud fan and terrible battery life
tiny summit
??? it's cooled in phones
wide cargo
most phones just thermal throttle when you try to go max load for any decent length of time
tiny summit
most phones also don't have any fans at all tbf
livid spade
🤔
Good of them to have home and back buttons lol
It was easy to see it was a vita inspired device but I'm more wondering "why" because it doesn't quite look like any of their other devices or their design language at large
clever path
Oh wow, so this is Vita, but with a fixed layout, looks pretty nice
empty gust
<@392611977891151872> time to bring back your old name
whats my old name?
AYN is a vita?
fresh lynx
Oh wow, so this is Vita, but with a fixed layout, looks pretty nice
Fixed layout huh, you sound like you're looking for trouble buddy
fresh lynx
This message brought to you by d-pad on top gang
empty gust
This message brought to you by d-pad on top gang
This man knows what he's talking about
fresh lynx
Stop and think about it for a minute, all the best devices ever made have had d-pad on top. The PSP and Vita? D-pad on top. The original Nintendo and Super Nintendo? D-pad on top. The greatest selling video game console of all time aka the PS2? D-pad on top. Steam deck? D-pad on top. Dance dance revolution? The whole mat is a d-pad.
D-pad always stays on top, because d-pad always stays winning.
winged turret
KTR1 choose your preference is way to go
shut spoke
Stop and think about it for a minute, all the best devices ever made have had d-...
Steam Deck? Dpad on side
clever path
Stop and think about it for a minute, all the best devices ever made have had d-...
NES
SNES
Steamdeck
Yep, it's shockingly uncomplicated to make a case that everyone has always been doing dpad on top, not just Sony
I suppose 2600 controller is also a dpad on top device somehow, isn't it?
fresh lynx
You would think the dance dance revolution dance pad would give away that I was trying to be funny
clever path
My bad, people have been saying the very same things unironically
fresh lynx
It's okay, one of my favorite pastimes is to go online and say things that are ridiculous but is also believable and then wait for somebody to take me seriously
clever path
vital maple
fresh lynx
What did Max mean by this?
clever path
He was posting that 10 times a day when people didn't like the original Cube mockup
stoic solstice
clever path
For a moment I thought that was PocketGo S30 lol
night dune
When will this be revealed?
fresh lynx
By the end of the month
They're slowly releasing details every day or two
In order to build hype
novel raft
Meh... can't the Chinese come up with their own original handheld designs? 😒
languid steeple
Meh... can't the Chinese come up with their own original handheld designs? 😒
I think pimax really brought some idea on portal, but they failed
tiny salmon
Meh... can't the Chinese come up with their own original handheld designs? 😒
Aya makes nice designed handhelds, but shame about support
novel raft
Ok, fair
stone vector
AYN is a vita?
Yes
glass crag
I do see people making what I think is a disengenuous argument that the Sony DualShock is proof that d-pad on top is fine for analog-focused games.
It's all about that V.
And none of these Android devices are large enough to accommodate that V.
hearty epoch
and even then the consensus is that the other layout is better.
wary horizon
The consensus is that d-pad top is best. I will not hear any arguments.
clever path
I mean, today’s exchange has taught me to never trust a person if he says he likes dpad on top
wary horizon
I thought you were cool jheronimus... 😔
clever path
Well, chances are, that’s not your preference and you’re just trolling
All this time we’ve simply been on the same side, and you decided to make things less boring, which I appreciate
But this trick won’t work on me anymore
(In all seriousness, what’s the V? Is that some kind of dirty slang?)
wary horizon
It just means the bottom controls are heavily inset
so that the controls create a sort of V shape
clever path
Ah, thanks
wheat phoenix
I've a feeling this device is meant for streaming
ember wadi
yeah or maybe meant for android gaming. if it was retro focused they wouldnt use xbox button layout
hasty widget
People get weirdly heated with the d-pad position argument lol, like everyone thinks their preferred layout is objectively better in every way lol
maiden acorn
yeah or maybe meant for android gaming. if it was retro focused they wouldnt us...
Yeah, the ABXY layout is a lot better for retro games. The only things I know of that can be emulated and use the Xbox layout is Dreamcast. Playstation in general is its own minefield.
maiden acorn
People get weirdly heated with the d-pad position argument lol, like everyone th...
Honestly, I don’t even care since I enjoy both, I just find it funny to spite “D-Pad on top” shills since they just on average have been way more petty than others, like to the point of saying “no, it’s not agree to disagree, d-pad centric layouts are superior”. I’ve particularly enjoyed responding to statements like those with “no, they’re right, everyone should be able to enjoy what they prefer, even if it’s wrong like D-Pad centric layouts”.
dawn yarrow
I like if the buttons had no labels. Dpad on top vs stick on depends on how high level this can emulate. If this is "steaming" device I am out. If this is a similar screen to pimax. I think people will be disappointed. Have fun with the speculation.
fallow magnet
Wii had the best layout. I will accept no questions
crystal knot
then accept a ban
fresh lynx
People get weirdly heated with the d-pad position argument lol, like everyone th...
A lot of it's just playful teasing. I don't actually care, it's just a fun topic to argue about playfully
night dune
I thought you were cool jheronimus... 😔
At least he does seem to have a good taste in music.
fresh lynx
Good taste in music? So he's a tool fan then?
The beautiful thing about talking to people online through text is you can't tell if I'm serious, or poking fun at tool
night dune
I don't even know if that's supposed to be a band name or if you simply like making kickass percussion music with your screwdrivers.
Btw. is there any other handheld using miniled? Is it like oled? Or just smaller leds?
clever path
A lot of it's just playful teasing. I don't actually care, it's just a fun topic...
More or less same
I also believe next to nothing of what we're discussing here becomes feedback for the manufacturers (because we're not the target audience), so it's really just a meme thing
fresh lynx
I think you're right
If they considered our feedback seriously, they would have just sourced an OLED panel for the Odin 2 and been done with it
clever path
On an unrelated note, does anybody know if I can stop tagging people I'm replying to by default?
burnt knot
On an unrelated note, does anybody know if I can stop tagging people I'm replyin...
there's no global toggle
if on desktop, hold shift when pressing reply
if on mobile, you can only toggle it off manually every time
clever path
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fresh lynx
Confirmed smaller device, confirmed 5-in screen
Confirmed Vita size
Confirmed maximum hype
echo crown
I wonder what chipset?
maiden acorn
Wait, so the screen isn’t even all that bigger then?
echo crown
Wait, so the screen isn’t even all that bigger then?
Looks like just a bit bigger then the rp4
maiden acorn
It's just a render
True, I’ll wait to say anything until they put official specs for the screen size out.
stoic solstice
5.5 I would guess, 5” panels are not common these days
maiden acorn
5.5 I would guess, 5” panels are not common these days
It’s a miniLED panel, those aren’t common to begin with.
stone vector
Custom design just for you
vital maple
Wonder what the resolution on this one is
Maybe they got the same supplier that pimax used and it's a 2k screen 
fallow magnet
Love the look, now if it has comparable to slightly superior performance to the RP4 pro and is in the same price range plus a few bucks this could be an instant buy
charred spear
Maybe they got the same supplier that pimax used and it's a 2k screen <:HAHAHA:6...
heck yeah
fresh lynx
They should hire you, you made it better with such little effort!
dawn yarrow
Are they making two variances. Is this just a Scott photo shop?
vital maple
Nah scott would make his photoshop a atomic purple color
Hope they entirely skip clear shells this time
dawn yarrow
Give me a Trans Orange. I will be happy
glass holly
Give me SDG2
dawn yarrow
Give me SDG2
Have you heard of the Odin 2?
glass holly
Old news, I need new devices every month
sacred elm
if this is a "streaming" focused handheld
I'd be fine if it's streaming focused as long as it's got at least an 870 and 8 to 12 ram and a price to match. Would ne super hyped if it's just a pocketable Odin 2 though
sacred elm
Love the look, now if it has comparable to slightly superior performance to the ...
If it's the same performers as a rp4p but with a sd chip then that'd actually a world of difference due to optimization and drivers. An 865 is about the same performance wide as the rp4p but can play a good amount of 3d switch games with decent performance compared to the rp4p which can do basic indies and 2d. Also much better at windows emulation and better performance and less glitches at everything else. If they put an 865 or 870 with 8 to 12 ram and charged 200 to 250 while keeping the screen 5.5 or smaller than that'd be pretty good while also fitting with their not competing with odin 2 claim but also not cannibalizing rp4p
still yarrow
If it's the same performers as a rp4p but with a sd chip then that'd actually a ...
I’m assuming we are gonna see d1100/870 levels
In between there or lesser
fresh lynx
Would people even be excited for that? D1100 that looks like a Vita for like $200 or something? Sounds kind of boring to me
wide cargo
Vita is top dpad 
sweet dagger
Stop and think about it for a minute, all the best devices ever made have had d-...
Valve doesn't give a damn about trends and preferences, they care 100% about functionality. Dpad up top is more functional, it gives you symmetrical hand placement in everything but N64 era platformers. It allows you to claw grip on either side. It allows the dpad to be bigger as it needs more space than an analog. Also you navigate your system menus with a dpad so it is technically ALWAYS the primary control no matter what games you prefer
wide cargo
Valve doesn't give a damn about trends and preferences, they care 100% about fun...
Tbf the deck is both dpad and stick top.
sweet dagger
Tbf the deck is both dpad and stick top.
The dpad is slightly higher. They also could have made it asymmetrical but they chose not to
still yarrow
Tbh you will have people saying something either way
There is already a top dpad device in the $200 market
A lot of people have said that it would’ve been better with top joystick
So here we are
glad onyx
A lot of people have said that it would’ve been better with top joystick
who?
16:9 - joystick top
4:3, 3:2, 1:1 - dpad top
It's not rocket science (unless you're a handheld maker in China, apparently)
still yarrow
who?
16:9 - joystick top
4:3, 3:2, 1:1 - dpad top
It's not rocket science (u...
Also I’m in agreement that the joy stick should be on top. But people will complain about everything lmao
livid spade
I prefer dpad on top in all scenarios but I agree with you, you just have to assume to a lot of people they just want the vita form factor to mimic the vita in its entirety
In reality though it's probably gonna come down to what the device is actually meant to be used for
clever path
Wouldn't be a bad idea for Retroid to just offer both versions tbh
Considering they make 2-3 devices a year, and tend to offer more options than most manufacturers
sweet dagger
https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/18xq2yi/the_case_for_an_offset_left_st...
He also gets massively ratioed by the dpad up top enjoyers. That's a 16:9 device made for higher end emulation too!
livid spade
It is probably a terrible idea from a logistics standpoint to manufacture 2 diff sets of shells/pcbs to give people a choice that ultimately wouldn't culminate in much
still yarrow
Still, there are people out there
still yarrow
It is probably a terrible idea from a logistics standpoint to manufacture 2 diff...
Forsure. And to have color options? Yeah right
livid spade
It's like me askin Xbox to make controllers that mimic a DualShock, at some point you just gotta go hop to the device that suits ur needs tbh
fresh lynx
He also gets massively ratioed by the dpad up top enjoyers. That's a 16:9 device...
To be fair that's any subreddit. If you go in criticizing the thing that everyone there loves you're going to get ratiod
still yarrow
You’re better off going to retroid/ayn discord and asking there 😂
sweet dagger
I prefer dpad on top in all scenarios but I agree with you, you just have to ass...
Same, I enjoy dpad up top always. Why? If the left analog stick is way too uncomfortable on the bottom then so will the right analog stick and you simply have a deeper ergonomics issue that needs addressing. Giving one comfortable analog stick placement but then making the right one (that requires precision and tight control) uncomfortable makes no sense to me.
livid spade
That I agree with
Don't think it's really a top or bottom thing as much as it is being able to accommodate your hands as you slide em down some more
And I don't consider purchasing or making a grip a solution to what is essentially poor ergonomics
I suppose it's the trade off for making a device that small/thin though
still yarrow
Slim candy bar handhelds with these tiny sticks on it’s own are not great for it in general
clever path
It's like me askin Xbox to make controllers that mimic a DualShock, at some poin...
You can buy any 3rd party controller for the Xbox though. Not an option with handhelds
livid spade
You know what I mean
clever path
Hell, you can buy a Saturn-like controller for an Xbox
livid spade
At the end of the day it's you having to find your own solution and paying for it lol
clever path
Sure, voting with your wallet is the way to go
livid spade
I think the feedback n criticisms are all valid by the way, I just think expecting a company to give you options on that level is hoping for too much
clever path
Just disagree that making two layouts is any more of a logistical nightmare than making metal shells or additional colors for most Retroid devices
sweet dagger
To be fair that's any subreddit. If you go in criticizing the thing that everyon...
Lol that's true
still yarrow
And anticipate supply a lot easier lol
livid spade
The latter at a substantial mark up while having them in limited batch
still yarrow
What are you gonna do, 50-50
One naughty YouTube review and now you’re shit out of luck for your top joy stick batch
livid spade
It'd be cool if they sold you modular parts at large but that is a very niche group of people in general
dawn yarrow
It's like me askin Xbox to make controllers that mimic a DualShock, at some poin...
This is a very good take. Look at where things were in 2018. Now there will always be a device to fit your wants
livid spade
Ye
I'd like retroid to be the one to do it but in reality there's enough manufactures and some degree of parity around for you to get something comparable that fits your needs
fresh lynx
We eatin good boys, the choices are overwhelming
still yarrow
I’m sure there’s some sort of business economic theory on this sort of thing. Like market penetration and being a standout rather than oversupplying what the customer actually needs/wants lol
I will continue to just buy what I like 😂
empty gust
Is this actually the final design????
stone vector
Is this actually the final design????
One of a kind model made just for you
fresh lynx
We need d-pad on top and bottom, 2 d pads are better than one
Now we just need the right stick to be a d-pad
And we will have achieved perfection
ember wadi
finally the perfect handheld for wonderswan
brazen wharf
As long as the bottom stick/D-pad is inset to the right, either layout is fine (for my thumbs anyways).
The sticks on the RP2S and D-pad on Xbox/switch controllers are quite comfy. But the D-pad on the Odin 2 is unusable.
robust flower
Not enough dpads
dense kettle
Not enough dpads
should be really good for plattformers
tiny summit
Not enough dpads
you left a joystick behind fam
robust flower
you left a joystick behind fam
Just to annoy people. haha.
People need to complain about something about the device.
Or maybe just one big massive dpad in the middle.
empty gust
the device IS the dpad
rare dust
screen looks likely to be 5 inches
A bit disappointing, kinda wish they had gone for 5.5"
lament zenith
vita size is honestly perfect
I want something better than an rk3566 at least
like helio g99 or d900
we already got the trimui smart pro or 35xxh for the horizontal 3566 performance level
queen rose
It needs to play upscaled psp
tiny summit
wish we knew more about the joysticks tbh. If they stick out as much as the Vita's it's less appealing to me
livid spade
I'm gonna assume with 0 knowledge at all that they gonna be the exact same thing as the retroid 2s
fallow magnet
Yeah I assume the same sticks as the RP2s, RP4 and RP4pro and the Odin 2. They work and are well liked
bold tide
If only it was dpad top 
dawn yarrow
Image trying to open this to add in Sony buttons.
dense kettle
Exactly
near ruin
So it's just a smallet more compact Odin 2 with Mini LED
dense kettle
Yeah just hope it’s not the pimax qled screen
dense kettle
Heavily implying it's the same chip
That’s a confirmation
robust flower
AYN Odin 2 Mini
near ruin
This is a little boring then
tiny summit
if I can use it as a phone, I'm buying it
I will literally sell my phone and replace it with this
dense kettle
It’s not supposed to be flashy I guess
tiny summit
put my sim card in it
dense kettle
Im replacing my vita with this and no one will know
robust flower
official name @stone vector
stone vector
official name <@938223181309837353>
Yep, name peace at last
dense kettle
put my sim card in it
I don’t think qualcomm sold them that chip allowing them to use 4G / 5G and data
tiny summit
F
dawn yarrow
Why can’t they drop the Taki cryptic talk.
past ermine
Honestly I have a Odin 2 but a mini Odin sounds great to me for some reason
magic geyser
i was about to buy an odin2 now i have to wait...........
restive ibex
Why can’t they drop the Taki cryptic talk.
hype building
restive ibex
i was about to buy an odin2 now i have to wait...........
this has a smaller screen, almost guaranteed to have a worse battery due to the smaller size and weight, and is probably going to be more expensive
night steppe
Odin 2 mini but still not pocketable 
past ermine
But more portable!