Ayaneo Pocket Micro

[gritty cloud]

if it has the performance to play its target platforms well, the screen looks good and is compatible with as many platforms as possible, it's comfortable to play with for extended periods of time, it's compact/light enough to actually carry in whatever carry size bracket it's aiming for, has a good OS like Android or Onion, good software support, has a long-lasting reliable battery and this package is well-priced, that's a perfect handheld.

These manufacturers and especially aya can choose to do this, but instead they make these really weird choices like making the Micro a box

And for the micro I feel that, because it's a box, if for what it is it costs like $150US, that's great. It's just a g99 in 2024. But if it costs above $250, that just makes it a nice shelf piece for whale collectors. Pointless, DOA

there's a reason rp flip, rp2/3/4, rg405m, miyoo mini have such a following

[elder trench]

International sales are just a very small portion of sales compared to domestic where you can buy it at stores

they are clearly making money to keep pushing these devices out

[gritty cloud]

is it cheaper there?

[elder trench]

yes

[gritty cloud]

Good for them. Maybe they'll learn from people's discourse, for the next release to be better. To me, if this is $300, it's another disappointing release.

[elder trench]

That's fine

I find the AP overpriced for what it does but it still looks amazing

People buy these for different reasons

[gritty cloud]

what's AP stand for

[elder trench]

Analog pocket

[gritty cloud]

oh yeah analog pocket is another joke product to me

i mean unless you literally can never purchase a gbc again for less than the price of an analog pocket

in that case, sure.

[elder trench]

Aya makes some really beautiful tech but that comes at a premium

they could really use some work on software

[gritty cloud]

because it's about using your real cartridges, right. For people who are truly into this one singular experience and they don't care about a handheld doing a bunch of other things

[elder trench]

hopefully they get that ironed out

yea but we got those other ones

fpga or w.e its called

[gritty cloud]

agree. they are the only ones pushing the boundaries of design

[elder trench]

for like 100 bucks

[gritty cloud]

in this space

[elder trench]

I already set my limit for $200 usd if its over then ill look for something else

I don't need these handhelds but I want them all lol

[gritty cloud]

who the hell makes a tiny x86 gaming clamshell with 2 touchscreens and controller layout

like, yknow? flip DS is so cool.

[elder trench]

One thing I hate about aya is that they hang out these devices for months with little to no info

and it kills my drive

[gritty cloud]

yeah me too but there's a limit beyond which one just has to be a whale to justify blowing up money on pointless purchases. I'm a one handheld kind of gal

[elder trench]

I got a pocket air and a o2p

and my 3ds still

I can't choose sometimes

[gritty cloud]

I had a gpd win 4, KT-R1 which both I sold, and I have a miyoo mini

[elder trench]

my partnet has a mini

she loves it

[gritty cloud]

As soon as Ayn releases an oled odin 2 mini, I'm buying it

[elder trench]

I just can't use something that small

[gritty cloud]

theyre so nice

u get pico 8!

[elder trench]

mainly id keep pressing on the back buttons

[gritty cloud]

u know what I can't wait for

Thumby Color.

[elder trench]

I have no idea what that is

[gritty cloud]

it's the size of your thumb and has its own open source game engine with free sdk iirc

newest version coming out august i think, has a color 128x128 display

which means possible pico8 compatibility as well

[elder trench]

I need to google this hold up

[elder trench]

ill break it

[gritty cloud]

this is the original

[gritty cloud]

this is the color

[gritty cloud]

yeah it's tiny

but exciting! boundary pushing. Forget-it's-on-you level carriable. That's a good console.

[elder trench]

I think the mini screen is like the smallest I could handle tbh lol

crazy what they can fit in these small finger shells

[gritty cloud]

they should call it the Squinty

[elder trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspicious-sussy-among-us-taco-gif-11557549228453355907

[mortal silo]

This and your other comments seem like round about ways of saying that somehow only you are able to come up with a reasonable price for this product lol

[muted rampart]

i keep trying to tell ppl these aren't niche emulation devices in asian markets where android gaming is far more popular for console style games/RPGs than it is in the west.

[gritty cloud]

that's a strange way of saying what I'm saying is a fresh new idea to you

[mortal silo]

i do like waking up to the fresh smell of salt on the air

[sour fox]

Salt is great on ice cream.

[mortal silo]

it's kind of wild to believe that wishing something was cheaper is a new idea to anybody lol

[gritty cloud]

yeah, we agree, I'm baffled as well. I think you got my response to you a bit confused there saltyboy

[river moat]

You ain't wrong most time if we want people to have emulation devices they would talk about steam deck or mm+

Or even Odin

[wary mirage]

interesting, i didnt know that at all

[vital sinew]

you mean for gacha games, not rpgs, genshin and the like are not fucking rpgs

[muted rampart]

they are, i didn't say they were good RPGs. there are also way more MMORPG that get mobile ports in asian territories. like Monster Hunter Online & Phantasy Star Online

Black Desert Online also has controller support

and then there is a whole catalogue that never makes it to the west at all

hopefully in the west we get more ports to android that are like warframe, xcom 2, terraria, etc. then maybe android handhelds will find the demographics that sony abandoned and now really only the switch dominates.

[foggy jetty]

I wake up every day wishing the Play Store was more like the Steam Store.

[vale crescent]

They are Action RPGs, which is close enough. It's all a continuum.

[vital sinew]

no, they are gacha games, something with just enough gameplay to milk as much possible money out of whales, not even real games, like a worse version of the arcades of the old, the difference being that with those you could make your quarter last if you were really good, with gacha games the idiot victims are just fucked

[muted rampart]

well, they still have all the RPG mechanica underneath all that

i agree with you they are terrible. i am very outspokenly against them. but that's not just gonna make the asian market for android handhelds to play them and other MMORPGs go away

and saying they aren't RPGs bc you don't agree with the predatory gacha tactics doesn't make the RPG mechanics not count either

and say what you want about the arcades of old, i loved probably one of the main offenders. Gauntlet was one of the most fun RPGs i ever played growing up

Legends was great, Dark Legacy was great

i didn't really touch the original but im sure ppl that did felt the same way.

[vital sinew]

gacha games with rpg mechanics or any other mechanics is still a gacha game, not an rpg or fps or strategy, gacha is the genre these games are in, putting surface level elements from other genres does not make the games belong to those genres

[muted rampart]

idk what to tell you, i say it's an RPG with gacha mechanics, you say it's a gacha with RPG mechanics

tomato tomato

if you take out the gacha what are you left with

an RPG

is it a good one?

meh

but it still counts

and i also mentioned other MMORPG that you are completely ignoring

that is also why asian markets tend to go with android handheld

more than western markets

🤷‍♀️

[vital sinew]

you cant take out the main element, DOOM fucking eternal has rpg elements, if you take out the FPS you are left with fuck all, not an rpg

[muted rampart]

lmao that isn't even remotely on the same level

okay you aren't even arguing in good faith here. just hating on an entire market for a few games they play.

nice talking to you lol

👍

[vital sinew]

its a shit market made of P2W "games" and hacker cheaters

[vale crescent]

Gatcha you pay sometimes when you play.

Arcades you pay every time you play.

Neither are as nice as a subscription service.

And that's not as good as just owning your game.

All just levels of value extraction.

[muted rampart]

not the entire market but okay fren

[vital sinew]

thankfully that is not the market that dictates hardware/software development at least for now

[muted rampart]

we literally just talked about how the aya(& mid-high end android) devices are in store for that market lol

but alr just living in your own reality i see

[vital sinew]

i live in the most important and largest economy on Earth, companies that arent targeting my market literally dont matter 🥱

[muted rampart]

you live in china?

[vital sinew]

lol, you need to stop listening to Winnie the Pooh propaganda buddy, EU is where its at

[sour fox]

I have no idea what is going on. Can we get back to the best GBA handheld not released talk?

[muted rampart]

i know how to look thru propaganda & be objective friend. you must be the guy who doesn't

[muted rampart]

im hopeful. what are the chances they use the g3x again? 🤭

[sour fox]

I think this only has a G99 in it.

[muted rampart]

i was playing my mm+ today and just thinking about maybe i would like an og gba style handheld for games like that.

[muted rampart]

what other devices have that one?

[sour fox]

KTR1 and ZPG A1 Unicorn

[muted rampart]

i heard the KTR1 was kinda disappointing. was it related to the CPU?

[gray pewter]

Not really. Mostly controls/quality

G99 is just fine especially for the purpose of this specific device

[muted rampart]

ohh right in the neighborhood of a SD695 i see

not bad. i was using the nord n20 for some games and that was more than enough for the games i was trying to play

even a bit worse than that seems totally fine

[gray pewter]

It’s in the iplay 50 tab too which there are videos on. Cooling will be different between a handheld and that tab but it’s a good idea of how it performs

[sour fox]

Just the buttons and dpad. Some had bad light bleed. KTR1 that is. Does a little better than a T618 and worse than a d900

[muted rampart]

seems like a fantastic terraria candidate c:<

in my pocket at all times? yes please!

[stoic sparrow]

Fuck me this is an amazing line lol

At first I did think a high price was an issue, but now I’m like, fuck it let aya cook. We have enough shitty devices, I’d rather see something amazing, even if I don’t buy/ people think it’s overpriced

Although no matter what this should’ve had the sd8gen2 over the dmg

[mint hull]

But it has metal. Ayaneo told me that adds over $200 right there.

[gray pewter]

Yeah it should’ve been swapped

But that would’ve made it much more than just 300

Lol

[still ermine]

Man we spend a lot of time debating the price of silly luxury gaming devices.

[muted rampart]

tru

what size screen is this purported to be?

[still ermine]

3.5” 3:2

960x640

[elder trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-meme-funny-super-excited-gif-12976197

[gritty cloud]

for $350ish yeah that'd be justified.

[gritty cloud]

the g99 is fine for up to ps2, with some fiddling to get ps2 titles to run nicely

some psp titles aren't fully there at 2x which is lame

i really want a smaller sd8g2 or g3x device. odin 2 mini is the only one and it's still quite large

[muted rampart]

might still be justified we'll see

[still ermine]

I think you'll start running into temperature problems even more any smaller than o2m and pocket S, they already get warm.

[primal cloud]

Have they announced price yet?

[lean vapor]

Nope, hopefully on 31st

[elder trench]

The igg for the micro and dmg will go live on the 31st

[sour fox]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-intensifies-zootopia-intensifies-waiting-impatient-gif-9739240072909568285

[sour fox]

I really like that red one.

[elder trench]

Yea the soul red is the one I would go for

[sour fox]

Is that what they are going to call it.

[elder trench]

Yea that's what he called it

we got the famicon color

soul red

and idk what the other 2 are called

[harsh timber]

I'm all about that NES silver and black one.

[harsh timber]

I wonder if the igg will go live at the time of the livestream. I really don't want to wake my ass up at 5am to snag the earlybird price.

[elder trench]

Probably right after

[stoic sparrow]

Man those sticks look so good

[tall gazelle]

You know, one thing I didn’t notice many bringing up is that the Micro’s screen is technically integer scaled the best kind of integer scaled for Switch games at a
X0.75 downscaled resolution.
(Ignore the 0.5x, that’s because I’m using the 351 screen as the example since the site doesn’t have the Micro’s screen and the 351 is exactly half the resolution of it)

That obviously isn’t great, but it’s interesting since that resolution is already what you’d need for Switch games to run well on a Helio G99.

[still ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/majoras-mask-majora-zelda-final-day-gif-26658556

[muted rampart]

it looks so nice im so curious

[sour fox]

Is this a button?

[cyan stone]

Yes. Function buttons and start/select

[sour fox]

Strange placement

[gray shore]

it's kinda similar to the GameBoy micro

[gray pewter]

Has this been shared yet? The color options

[sour fox]

I see now.

[acoustic halo]

The red always looks very good

[stoic sparrow]

This device is so stupidly beautiful, I can’t state that enough lol

[sour fox]

Waiting for the 31st.

[elder trench]

Ngl if the red had black buttons then it would be perfect imo

[acoustic halo]

You could ask for them. They clearly have some already from the Famicom color scheme

[muted rampart]

i really like that black on black on black with red accent. it would go really well w one of my fav cameras ive bought.

blackout with one deep red button

the red ring on lens is a mist filter

[lavish shadow]

Live stream has started, they are still discussing the pocket DMG though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByZhp_evLSw

[boreal trellis]

Really wish they would stop with this non-stop teasing and just give us a release date and a price already. The price will depend on if I continue to care or not. But if they keep dragging this out I'm going to slowly lose interest and not care at all eventually.

[lavish shadow]

@boreal trellis thats what they are doing now.

So stop wishing

[boreal trellis]

I got tired of waiting and closed the stream right before this apparently.

[lavish shadow]

I'm more excited about the Micro. So I'll be watching passively until that's priced out.

ok here we go! micro time

[boreal trellis]

I am more excited about the micro too. DMG looks cool but at that price I'm not really sure. I may just do the micro and not worry about the other.

[lavish shadow]

its a damn good looking device, for my taste anyways.

although "micro" is a bit of an exageration, it's not that small a device.

whats your favorite color @boreal trellis ?

retro gold was canceled. wasn't my first choice anyways.

[boreal trellis]

I'm really liking that gray one until they said it's a limited edition one. So that means that one will probably be more expensive. I'll probably just go with the black one

[lavish shadow]

i'm on the grey wagon as well, hope it's just less quaantity and not more money. we'll find out soon.

lol this part is so cheeesy

well dang it.

now that's just silly if you ask me. $30 for grey?

[boreal trellis]

60 bucks more for gray. I'm not sure if that's worth it to me. I was hoping to be under 200. I'll probably definitely get the base black model.

[lavish shadow]

oh damn, there is a price difference for every color?!

so basicaly, if you want fingerprint smudges, you get a good deal, the less smudges you want, the more you pay. Did I get this right? lol

ah no, there is a storage and memory difference

magic black is the lower spec model

6GB/128GB vs 8GB/256GB

so +$30 for some ram/storage, then +$30 more for grey.

I'm not very happy about the way they split this up TBH. But it is what it is.

[boreal trellis]

Work meeting so guess I'll have to finish the video later.

[lavish shadow]

not much else to see, i closed out after the price sheet posted above

[sour fox]

Soul red it is. Is the IGG up yet?

[elder trench]

yup

[mortal silo]

this seems much more reasonable then i aws expecting :/

[lavish shadow]

the real question is, how much difference in performance between the 6GB and 8GB model

[empty scaffold]

i knew it was gonna be close to 300 bucks

[lavish shadow]

early bird is only about 10% off, not a huge deal

not sure i'm willing to risk getting it before real opinions show up for that little savings

the DMG has deeper discounts though... but yeah. I'm on the fence honestly

making grey a premium color kinda rubbed me the wrong way too

they canceled retro gold, and bumped grey into premium. lameness. even apple doesn't think they are this special lol

[tall gazelle]

I told you! I told all of you! But did you listen? No!

[lavish shadow]

oh, the "i told you crew" are here

lol

[tall gazelle]

“It’s AYANEO, so even if they only did 1000cny domestic, they’ll definitely up charge it to $250+”.

[lean vapor]

Hmmm i want to buy, but after import charges this will be more like £250

[tall gazelle]

Man, I’ve been saying the low spec variant would be at least like $160-$170 when the domestic prices first got revealed, and I was basing that off of 4GB Ram and 64GB internal storage being the minimum.

[mortal silo]

i mean, this isn't me complainig. i was perfectly wiling to pay up to 300. buying it for sub 200 is a plus

[tacit geode]

Ordered the micro because I love GBA the best

[mortal silo]

now do the same for the pocket evo, i'm guessing ~$800 but i wouldn't mind paying 500

[tall gazelle]

$190 for 6GB-Ram and 128GB-Storage? That’s even less than what I expected.

[lavish shadow]

i'll sell you mine for $300 if you want 😉

These handheld makers are having a field day, everyone saying "TAKE MY MONEY"

oh wow and $30 shipping

[boreal trellis]

I ordered the cheapest black one. $30 shipping stings. $228 USD with screen protector after shipping. But I love GBA so decided to go for it.

[lavish shadow]

meh, i'm gonna pass, enjoy everyone!

[mortal silo]

i mean, the market is out there for people who want a nice looking product. i'm am an absolute sucker for GBA games. i don't need the cheapest piece of plastic to play a library of games that is essentially going to stay the same forever

[robust geode]

The shipping hurts a bit, but I don't think the price is unreasonable

[mortal silo]

the early bird includes a gift pack which comes with a bunch of stuff doesn't it?

[tacit geode]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[boreal trellis]

I missed that. Not sure if that's included with all

Yeah. Just re-read and it looks like preorder does include those. So Guess I'll have an extra screen protector in case I mess one up.

[tacit geode]

Same! I missed those bonuses

I’d buy the DMG too because of that OLED screen but fuck me if the design isn’t weird as hell with the stick and touchpad

[lavish shadow]

just buy it, who cares

[tacit geode]

I’ll use the analogue pocket if I need to. I have too many devices including a lot of original hardware

[lavish shadow]

too many?! NEVAAAHHHHH

[tacit geode]

I still have two GCW zeros

Hahaha

[lavish shadow]

It's far too easy to get carried away with these handhelds

I think it's a problem many are facing

i wonder what NES will look like on this screen...

[muted rampart]

ooooh that black on black on black looks so nice

[stoic sparrow]

The 6gb model looks about right

[muted rampart]

looks like this might be my new terraria/gba machine

and a bit of nds/gamecube

[acoustic halo]

Man. An Ayaneo device with a genuinely reasonable price for the package. I’m genuinely stunned.

[muted rampart]

what is the price

i missed it

oh no i was hoping kinda overpriced

i don't want it to sell out too fast lol

[gray pewter]

It won’t lol

[acoustic halo]

$190 earlybird for lowest spec, up right now

[muted rampart]

190 only????

[acoustic halo]

Right?

[gray pewter]

For base model 6gb black + $30 shipping to the US

[muted rampart]

black/black/black/red?

[gray pewter]

Yeah

[muted rampart]

ohh gosh it is gorgeous

[gray pewter]

@sour fox did you get a screen protector

[muted rampart]

only 220 for a 256

not that much more and double the storage

buuuut it has a micro sd slot

HUH

[mortal silo]

orders within the first 7 days comes with a gift box which has a screen protector

[stoic sparrow]

Yeah the ram basically doesn’t matter on this lol

[gray pewter]

👌 sounds good

[muted rampart]

ahhhhh i should get paid on friday

might put in an order

[lean vapor]

Im torn. I want it. But might change my mind. I forget when do IGG stop you from being able to refund?

[gray pewter]

The retail price is only like $10 more

$20?

[muted rampart]

when they are shipping phase right?

or a bit before

[tall gazelle]

I’m not, it makes sense to me given what Domestic costed.

[muted rampart]

that is also not bad!

so there really is no rush

tbh even 250 is fine for this

great form factor, plays a decent chunk of games + android games

really nice looking screen

[acoustic halo]

I don’t think I’m pulling the trigger. I’m kinda done buying non OLED handhelds (I just already own LCD ones in all the categories I need).

But also these prices are so much more reasonable than I thought they’d be, no shade at anyone buying it purely because it’s just that pretty lol, let alone the functionality.

[stoic sparrow]

Fwiw, I get buying non oled on a more small handheld, and I’m an oled degenerate

[tall gazelle]

Honestly fuck it, I’ll get this since I currently don’t have a G99 handheld, this thing is a bit interesting as a potential 405M replacement, and I’m honestly not that interested in the Unicorn since I already have the Cube.

[mortal silo]

don't think there are any available oled screens this size. and a custom made one for a product like this would be stupid expensive

[acoustic halo]

If I hadn’t gotten the RP3+ metal, I’d be in for one no question.

[lean vapor]

Screw it!

Went with low end. As got odin 2 mini for high end stuff. Be good to see what i can get out of 6gb ram

[muted rampart]

i was interested in the 405M before i learned how awful anbernic internal designs were

[tall gazelle]

Plus, if I don’t like it, I can always just sell it.

[muted rampart]

still bought a few of their consoles before i decided they aren't for me

i'd rather not have the battery as a heat sink for the CPU

something i just don't trust about that

[tall gazelle]

The RG405M is not bad, I think it was actually the first handheld they made that had the Battery next to the Chipset instead of being on top of it.

[muted rampart]

that is good

[stoic sparrow]

That soul red looks insane

[muted rampart]

i think i will exercise some discipline for once and wait to order a micro until after they release and just get it for full retail

just to make sure i really want one

[tall gazelle]

I got the Magic Black since I was more interested in that color scheme, but yeah, in general the colors are pretty sick.

[muted rampart]

250 is not bad at all for something that plays 90% of games i want to take on the go with me anyways

[tall gazelle]

I think the only way I would’ve been tempted by the Limited Edition Price is if they kept that Famicom Red/Gold one they showed a while ago.

[muted rampart]

arthur is kinda bad at pokemon pinball huh? 🤭

[stoic sparrow]

I wonder what battery life will look like on this

[acoustic halo]

Hope this current Aya bang for buck ratio carries over to the Pocket Evo lol. Cause tbh for what it’s packing, even the DMG is a very reasonable price. Still a deeply weird little thing, but that number of dollars for that bill of materials is not bad at all.

[muted rampart]

or maybe just holding it that way for the camera is awkward

[tall gazelle]

Honestly at minimum settings for lower end stuff, it’ll probably be pretty good. Higher end stuff won’t be great, but oh well, that would at least make sense.

[muted rampart]

LOUD

arthur is using the joystick for marlo again

D:<

[tall gazelle]

Eh makes sense.

Some people prefer analog stick for retro games, others are actually sane.

[waxen stone]

If I hear a single one of you complain about the ergonomics after pre-ordering I swear

[muted rampart]

oh don't you worry

[lean vapor]

Just wait for dmg users

[tall gazelle]

Oh I’m fully expecting this to just feel like using an NES controller with slightly more rounded edges.

[muted rampart]

inb4 "juSt Get OdiN 2"

[lean vapor]

Loved the idea of my analogue pocket. 5 mins of using my hand cramps

[muted rampart]

or a slightly larger gameboy micro

which is fine imo

[waxen stone]

I do not think vertical handhelds are ergonomic
Not even the 2DS felt good to me, but that's off topic

[tacit geode]

I still have two Gameboy micros

[mortal silo]

this is probably an improvement over my favorite way of playing gba. on my galaxy phone in landscape with on screen controls lol

[muted rampart]

and i just understood why retroid called it the 2S

[lean vapor]

When i was young and had better hands, but im old now 😂

[muted rampart]

and it looks like that

[tall gazelle]

Nah, Gameboy Micro would actually be way more ergonomic than something like the NES controller if it was bigger.
…it’s not big, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be better if it was.

[waxen stone]

The 2S doesn't look like a 2DS though

[muted rampart]

anyways i love verticals but horizontals are nice too

[muted rampart]

similar design tho

[tall gazelle]

Hell, even now I’d still say the Micro is the most ergonomic Micro-Handheld I’ve ever used.

[muted rampart]

both more vertical

[waxen stone]

...No?

[muted rampart]

lol

okay

[sour fox]

Still need to order. Haven’t looked at the IGG

[muted rampart]

i have found i am playing more horizontals lately

my fav vertical still the analogue pocket

[lean vapor]

You must have amazing hands. I have to use a grip to be able to play it

[waxen grove]

Kt Pocket r1 is looking more favorable now except for the size difference

[muted rampart]

if i used a grip i think it would be uncomfy to reach controls

it is super comfy as is

[waxen grove]

I was worried Arthur was going to drive the price up instead of down the g99 should be coming down in price especially with the Unicorn coming in at 130

[gray pewter]

Just got the black one. I guess it comes with it?

[muted rampart]

almost too big but just small enough

[tall gazelle]

No, I’d still say the KT-R1 looks unfavorable considering they’re still selling the flawed V1 while working on the V2.

[stoic sparrow]

lol I don’t think anyone here will ever consider a ktr1 favorable

[muted rampart]

we like aya here

🤭

this looks way better than a ktr1

[stoic sparrow]

Nah in general, the ktr1 to this day seems mad borked, by purchasers even

[waxen grove]

Better screen than micro for gba. Less cost. Same cpu

[tall gazelle]

For gods sake, they still don’t have the button fix released, and I’m honestly starting to expect that they’ll just put it in the V2 by default and not bother with the V1.

[gray pewter]

If the controls don’t get fixed for the ktr1 it’ll never be a viable choice

[stoic sparrow]

Nah dude I’d take this over a ktr1 20 million times over

[muted rampart]

ktr1 is bigger, no?

[tall gazelle]

No, the Micro actually has a better screen for GBA given its integer scaled and a more reasonable resolution for the chipset while the KT-R1 is 1080p.

[stoic sparrow]

I would only feel comfortable recommending a ktr1 and game force ace to someone I really really hate

[river moat]

I mean it's not bad but

[tall gazelle]

Now, people who don’t care about resolution at that point won’t consider that a downside, and I agree with that take, but when we’re talking what’s objectively the better screen for GBA specifically? Micro’s got the better screen by a long shot by those specific metrics.

[river moat]

199 plus tax Is not that bad

[tall gazelle]

Even then I wouldn’t, because that just risks me getting arrested for attempted murder if I give them a Launch version of the KT-R1.

[river moat]

However the battery life tho

[river moat]

Nahhhh what

[muted rampart]

2600mAh

[tall gazelle]

If I hate them enough for it to make sense as a murder motive, I’m not giving them a potential safety hazard. Maybe I’d give them the later revisions without those legit stupidly placed screws.

[muted rampart]

so, probably decent on a G99

depending on what you play

not gonna be a battery powerhouse but it's also tiny

[waxen grove]

G99 is a chip we should by now be seeing in 99 handhelds. Too bad it's moving in other direction

99 dollar

[gray pewter]

Have they said anything on how longs the time duration with this battery yet

[muted rampart]

it's ayaneo what did you expect

they don't make 99 handhelds lol

[stoic sparrow]

Ayaneo tax plus metal tax, it’s about right

[tall gazelle]

It’s likely to be really freaking good at the lowest Performance Mode for 8/16-bit retro stuff as well as some early 3D.

[river moat]

I was thinking if it is worth it over rp4pro

[muted rampart]

i bet it will be great for terraria

[muted rampart]

if you want performance? no

[tall gazelle]

Yeah, plus we already knew the Domestic price, so them having it be sub-$200 makes sense as an International-Upcharge.

[muted rampart]

if you want something convenient to carry and won't play as much as d1100 then yes

[stoic sparrow]

I imagine no normal person would consider both. This is a way different market than value king

[river moat]

😏are you sure about thst

[tall gazelle]

Oh absolutely agreed, I’m already selling my RP4Pro after the Odin 2 I sold gets delivered to the buyer, but if I was keeping that, I’d not even bother with the Micro.

[lean vapor]

Wow micro chat is booming and dmg chat basically dead 😅

[muted rampart]

no normal, semi-informed person would consider both

[mortal silo]

was tempted since i kind of want a nice vertical. but nothing about it seems desirable

[stoic sparrow]

It makes no sense for the chip and PERSONALLY it’s really ugly

[muted rampart]

one stick is a really odd choice

[waxen grove]

Competition is usually good so at least we have that but I do wish more people would try the g99 and try to get price stabilized. That being said I'm the weirdo that enjoys the pocket S more than the Odin 2. So who knows how I'll see this once in my hands

[muted rampart]

not that weird, odin 2 is a gets-the-job-done kind of console. there is no focus in design there imo. just a focus on specs and put it in a slab you can hold

[sour fox]

That’s not weird. Pocket S is better just cost more

[muted rampart]

with fat enough grips so ppl don't complain

[tall gazelle]

I think the Gameboy DMG colored one actually looks good, which is why it’s funny to me that it’s the single most expensive option instead of being one of the stock options.

[waxen grove]

Well maybe not weird but certainly not the common typical response most people that I say that to think that the Odin 2 is still probably a better device overall but yeah price does matter

[gray pewter]

The handful of people who have the pocket s have shared the same sentiment I think

[tall gazelle]

Like, they didn’t even bother trying to make the “appealing nostalgia option” the attention grabber for getting some of more sales, they just made it the $600-$700 Limited Edition option that has way more Internal Storage than it actually needs.

[mortal silo]

eh if odin 2 and pocket s was available at the same time when i was looking for a high end android device. i would've gone with teh pocket s. but odin 2 was the only one available and pocket s wasn't a big enough upgrade

[sour fox]

I will not say why the Odin2 is bad. We just have some people who really enjoy Halloween

[muted rampart]

most ppl let youtubers think for them and that is the common sentiment among reviewers who are trying to get people the most bang for their buck

[stoic sparrow]

Here are my thoughts on Odin 2 vs evo, but some of it applies to the S

[muted rampart]

for one thing it is ugly

🤭

the mini tho, 💯

[waxen grove]

Sometimes I don't really even understand why I enjoy a handheld more than others for me sometimes I just like it and I don't really even know why. That was the case with the Pimex portal and man that thing got hammered by everybody too

[crude hornet]

it happens, I like the ktr1 more than most

[plush quarry]

i just love the fact this is call micro and its as big as a large phone

[muted rampart]

that is fair

happened with the rg nano for me at first too

[river moat]

I mean pocket s is 312 plus tax sioooooo

[muted rampart]

then tech dweeb and RGC did reviews (RGC did a re-review) after feedback and saw the value in it

[sour fox]

I love my pimax retro. 150 dollars. Best higher end android handhelds for the price

[acoustic halo]

Personally, I think the Odin occupies kind of an uncanny valley. Premium price, but not pricey enough to include some pretty important (to me) premium features like an OLED. There’s every opportunity for the Evo to cost substantially more than an Odin and feel like a more justifiable purchase to me than one.

[waxen grove]

That's what I think's great I mean we're all different and we don't shouldn't have an expectation that we're all going to like the same thing that's why I'm glad there's multiple people giving viewpoints out there.

[muted rampart]

the aya micro might be the thing that gets me to sell the rg nano tho

which i thought would never happen

[plush quarry]

i honestly cant think of anything that really bugs me with the odin 2

[muted rampart]

ugleeeeeeee, no oled

good firmware ive heard tho

[plush quarry]

i dont see where its ugly though?

[mortal silo]

can't imagine getting rid of my nano. it perpetually lives in a tech pouch that i always have on me. it probably has the most screen time out of any of my handhelds just due to sheer convenience

[waxen grove]

For me it was the size and form factor because I'm just picking up my PC handheld at that size anyways

[muted rampart]

exactly, it's all over, compared to the ayaneo air series

[river moat]

But at least pocket s got better support than razer edge pimax portal and others

[muted rampart]

even the RP4P looks better than the O2

[river moat]

Plus it's andorid so you are safe

[plush quarry]

fair point... steamdeck has come down so much in price that new 64gb units on sale were $294

so

[waxen grove]

Well on Baidu it's getting a lot of bad press and reviews from The Gamers there I don't think pocket S is doing very well in China

[muted rampart]

they just look like they have a consistent and distinct design language, whereas odin is just like, "yep it plays games"

[plush quarry]

that said odin 2 still isnt all that big

its portable

not pocketable

but also doesnt take up a huge space in my bag

[muted rampart]

Odin 2 reminds me of the old alienware laptops

"yep, that thing plays games"

[waxen grove]

Odin 2 is like so close to being a fantastic great device and usually for most people it is I would still pick up and play my own too if I had it it's just that I guess for me the 1440 piece screen and the really Slim thin profile of the pocket S wins out

[river moat]

I think because we got odin 2 and then the price matter very much and hell it's not even on their website

[muted rampart]

doesn't really remind me of anything else

it just looks like someone took a generic game controller and put a screen in it

[river moat]

But even the price in uk is at least calm 336 in total

[plush quarry]

id rather it look plain and be comfortable

than anything else

[muted rampart]

the air series is comfy too, just has better screen and LTE

[waxen grove]

Odin 2 is like a Honda you can't really go wrong but Aya Neo is like stepping up to an Acura

[muted rampart]

tru!

[river moat]

Anyone who have a pocket s when you order indiegogo how long the shipping will takes

[muted rampart]

idk who is acura lol

[plush quarry]

RP4P does look nice but i have the RP3+ and can say that short bursts is fine but extended plays are a bit...cramping for me

[waxen grove]

Strawberry it's Hondas version of lexus

[plush quarry]

the grip helps that but man

[muted rampart]

OH! yeah tru

🤭

that's a good analogy

[waxen grove]

Mine shipped about a month and a half after I ordered but I was part of the first orders

And it took about 3 to 4 days to arrive to me via DHL once shipped

[muted rampart]

ayaneo air vs odin 2 🤭

[river moat]

Whole month sigh

[plush quarry]

ill still take the honda

[waxen grove]

It's really annoying that they do this they launch the order page and it still months away when they've been showing the thing for months I really wish they wouldn't do that but I'm hoping secretly they're doing like a y n did with the Odin 2 Pro and ship early it's better to give estimates that are overshot and do early than the other way around

[muted rampart]

ayaneo vs odin 2

im a bike girlie lol

[plush quarry]

and id still take that cbr

[plush quarry]

lol

[waxen grove]

That Indian is fire

[muted rampart]

the overengineering on that ftr tho 😍

[river moat]

But even that whole month so even I order from them I would have to wait for a month to be shipped

[muted rampart]

literally every angle is symettrical to another angle to another angle

it's ||https://youtu.be/xe_JXsWNDTQ||

[waxen grove]

From my experience on Indiegogo buying from them several times yes I think that's what will happen

[stoic sparrow]

Yeah cbrs are cool lol

[muted rampart]

cbr are okay but gsxrs are cooler c:<

[stoic sparrow]

I think the comparison is better made to a Toyota car. Very reliable, very boring, but still sought after, and that comes from a Tacoma owner lol

[muted rampart]

my first bike was a gsxr so im def biased

and i def ride with all my gear

dont check tho

[river moat]

Jesus and I was thinking about getting asus rog ally at 374 on ebay

[stoic sparrow]

Latah squid

[muted rampart]

practice what i preach not what i do

ATGATT

all the gear all the time

[tall gazelle]

It’s a “Micro” because it’s one of the smallest devices AYANEO’s made, and also the smallest screen they’ve ever used.

[plush quarry]

ah in that case fair

[muted rampart]

micro! it's so little. perfect.

[mortal silo]

thought it was named micro as a tribute to the gba micro

[waxen grove]

Technically they use that screen in the flip DS but I digress

[plush quarry]

i remember something about being inspired by the gba micro and then they showed a size of it

and kinda got confused lol

[river moat]

Micro overall made sense but dmg very very unnecessary especially with powerful chip with one stick

[muted rampart]

would have made more sense to put the snapdragon in the micro imo

but im not mad

[muted rampart]

keeps the micro cheap enough, and still will play android games pretty well

[river moat]

Wait they don't have sd slot

[muted rampart]

fixed

we were talking about CPU

[tall gazelle]

Nah, I think the Odin 2 occupies the right price point for the design and specs. It’s not only got the best performance chipset in practicality, but it’s also decently ergonomic, its screen is a nice size, and it’s for a legit obscenely cheap price (I cannot understate the fact that when the Odin 2 was announced, you couldn’t get a new phone with the same chipset for less than double that price, much less with expandable storage and a headphone jack). Nowadays, there’s definitely better options in terms of written specs, but the Odin 2 is still king in that regard.

[river moat]

Ohhhhh I was going to say how they lost their damn mind

[acoustic halo]

Ughhhhh the red looks so good. This thing is way too similar to what I already own, stop looking so pretty lol

[muted rampart]

buy iiiiiiit

you know you wanna

[river moat]

Premium small device

[tall gazelle]

Once you go into more expensive stuff, you’re not in “what people in general would want” territory anymore, you’re now legit in “what would I want” territory.

[muted rampart]

i mean the libraries that will fit on here won't go that much bigger than 256

for retro games

for android is a different story

[acoustic halo]

But if I don’t buy it, it’s like a $200 discount on the next thing I do buy.

[muted rampart]

tru!

i don't buy it

[river moat]

Only 6 hours

[muted rampart]

but if so that is really good

[river moat]

Not bad

[muted rampart]

70% birghtness & volume too

most of the time i play will be 0% volume and probs 50% brightness

[tall gazelle]

That’s really good for 2600mAh already, and that’s also assuming they’re using the minimum performance mode for those tests and not just going max for everything.

[gray pewter]

Assuming the tests are accurate

[tall gazelle]

If they’re testing GBA, then while it’s impressive, it’s not unbelievable.

[river moat]

I would say that ayaneo

Can make beautiful device

[tall gazelle]

Now, if they’re claiming stuff like PS1 or even Dreamcast last that long, then I’ll call bullshit.

[river moat]

But in the end of the day

[gray pewter]

It’s def with gba testing. I don’t doubt that it’s possible. 2600mah is a bit of a bummer. There’s a fan in there too (?) lol

[primal cloud]

Just saw the price for the pocket dmg

And came here to vent….

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-bang-theory-jim-parsons-sheldon-cooper-hyperventilating-anxious-gif-4981204

[gritty cloud]

this device is an excellent device for the price.

[mortal silo]

lol they took all the cost savings from micro and added it to the dmg

[tall gazelle]

It’s a surprisingly cheap price for an OLED vertical handheld with a G3X Gen 2. Only problem is they really shouldn’t have used a G3X Gen 2.

[stoic sparrow]

Man I need to stop looking at this channel lmao

[primal cloud]

Well it was what I was expecting… 13 Dlls more though

[tall gazelle]

Oh if you’re not planning to get this, I’d just run right now and never look back.

[primal cloud]

I was up to pay 250

[true cipher]

I think the difference only factors in for games you probably don't want to play on this anyway

[sour fox]

did they show the Mesh bag in the video this morning?

[gray pewter]

Or the mug

☕️

[tall gazelle]

I definitely can admit I like collecting these handhelds, but I still try to keep a rule of only getting “1 device per chipset” (since I also like having them available to test the performance for those chips if asked), and I didn’t have a G99 handheld currently so I just decided “fuck it, why not?” (I was planning to get the Unicorn for that instead, but man, a 3:2 handheld is just way more appealing than 1:1 when you already have the Cube)

[primal cloud]

Wait. Only 2600 mAh?

Not even the SP has that low battery

Even my 351 m has more battery lol

For that price is just too low battery

[gray pewter]

It allegedly will last just as long as those devices

And has standby

[stoic sparrow]

Fwiw I agree, even a 28xx, an absurdly small device, has 3100mah

[tall gazelle]

See that’s the reason why it’ll likely “last as long” as the 28XX.

[primal cloud]

But for like 4 times the price

And yes the screen is better, but still haha

[gray pewter]

The test boasts 6hr 45 min of 4x integer scaled gba

At 70% brightness

[primal cloud]

If I was sinking 250 Canadian dollars + 60 shipping I was expecting at least 3500 mAh or something

[stoic sparrow]

Really I don’t trust any battery test or performance test till average people try it

[gray pewter]

Me neither. Just should be mentioned

[tall gazelle]

Yeah, and the 28XX can do up to 10-12 hours (not on MuOS, since I’m pretty sure that goes full performance mode at all times, but on other firmwares it can go that far).

[gray pewter]

I was comparing it to the 353 and sp or whatever the person said

No doubt it should have a larger battery

[gritty cloud]

i retract my statement the device is less than mediocre now lol

[gray pewter]

Still a larger battery than my vita though

Which lasts 5-6 hours

Lol

[gritty cloud]

doesnt the vita have way lower tdp than the g99

[gray pewter]

About 4-5w idr

[tall gazelle]

I’m honestly curious if they legit can’t fit something better in the device because they designed it to use the shell as a heatsink (like the RP2S Metal edition) and it’s in the middle, or if they can but they just got whatever small battery they could source the easiest since I’m pretty sure they’ve never used a battery for a device this physically small (in comparison to their other devices) besides the Pocket S (which would instead be too wide for something like this).

[tall gazelle]

If it’s the second option, we might actually be able to use a bigger battery and just need, at most, to use a 3D Printed battery holder to keep it in place.

[primal cloud]

I had so much faith in this… but, apparently is not as micro as it looks, battery seems to not be the best, price was high as expected, but with that power of the chip isn’t the battery not gonna last longer

[muted rampart]

do those have the anbernic heatsink tho? 👀

[gray pewter]

Buy two for double battery life

[tall gazelle]

Again, depends on how well optimized the Minimum Performance mode is. I remember the Pocket Air lasted surprisingly long, even for its battery size, with that mode and just using low end games.

[muted rampart]

i think anbernic should do smaller batteries and not have them smooching the CPU

or RAM

[true cipher]

The Odin 2 is a workhorse and I'd feel safe recommending it to anyone interested in a high end Android handheld, but I personally would never buy one while the Pocket S does appeal to me. Design has value beyond straightforward bang for buck for me.

[tall gazelle]

Again, that’s why I said this reply. #1238123357510172803 message

When you want something more expensive, that’s fine and you definitely should go for it if you want to. My comment was mainly arguing against the claim that the Odin 2 is “in uncanny valley territory”.

[muted rampart]

part of it is definitely the form factor too tho. not being a very bulbous console will allow it to be carried in more spaces than the alternative.

despite not being quite as "micro" as we probably anticipated

[elder trench]

powkiddy does better designs

[muted rampart]

even in a slim shell/case im sure this will fit in most bags with ease

[tall gazelle]

Are we going to go back to this stuff again? In an unrelated channel?

[muted rampart]

someone said the battery in this should be bigger, like anbernic consoles. I'd say talking about the micro in micro channel is related. lol

[true cipher]

I think the argument was similar for that: it's not cheap enough to not consider the trade off, but it's too cheap to have premium features/design you might be looking for in a high end device.

[tall gazelle]

But it already has those for a handheld.

[muted rampart]

unlike my STEAM DECK!

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-gif-17279625483437474265

[true cipher]

Hence you and might

[muted rampart]

literally taking-up-a-whole-backpack-worth-of-space ass "handheld"

[tall gazelle]

Ok yeah that’s fair then.

[true cipher]

There's the fact that this is actively cooled, so that takes away some battery room

[muted rampart]

🤭

[tall gazelle]

The difference in size between a 2600mAh battery and a 3000mAh battery is not that much, especially not for something the current size of the Micro, so there’s little to no risk of it suddenly covering the CPU just from that.

[muted rampart]

ohhh that is nice tho

it's def tough to say when you go this small in handhelds

bc you are talking mm making the difference between fitting parts in one way or another

and idk how much difference 400mAh would make vs just tuning the software

[gray pewter]

This probably did not need a fan

[tall gazelle]

Hell, I’d honestly expect you could even fit a 4000-4500mAh battery if this wasn’t a machined aluminum shell that probably won’t be hollow enough to fit it, and of course this is assuming the cpu and fan aren’t located in the center of the device.

[muted rampart]

idk if i could see that.

[tall gazelle]

I mean, batteries don’t come in 1 standard size.

[finite summit]

RH link:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pocket-micro-tribute-to-classic-pocket-handhelds/x/27409825#/

[tall gazelle]

You can find multiple different shapes for the exact same mAh value to suit your needs.

[elder trench]

does that link include nubbs

[finite summit]

Not bad, still wish we had better pricing but it's wild seeing an ayaneo handheld below $200 😆

[elder trench]

they mentioned they are also going to be doing a budget line in the future for devices so lets hope 2025 delivers some good stuff from them

[tall gazelle]

Not surprising to me after seeing the Domestic Cost.

[finite summit]

Ooooo, that would be neat!

[elder trench]

wonder how much gametime we can get with gba

[muted rampart]

w 4x int scaling they claim 6:45

[elder trench]

6 minutes!

[tall gazelle]

Honestly the most surprising thing to me was that they didn’t go for a 4GB-Ram/64GB-Storage version for $175.

Although I definitely will admit that them going for making the DMG cheaper than the Pocket S was a legit shock.

[elder trench]

yea

probably since it wasn't a cnc shell

that cut the price a bit

just hope that ayaneo plastic holds up

and doesn't crack

[muted rampart]

#1238123357510172803 message

[tall gazelle]

Oh no, that was the reason why I understood the fact that expecting $130-$140 for the Micro would’ve been stupid as hell.

[muted rampart]

there it is

took me a sec to find the screenshot

[tall gazelle]

None of the other AYANEO devices I can think of use CNC’d aluminum shells, they were all plastic.

[elder trench]

yea pocket s and this are the only ones so far

[mortal silo]

i really doubt that battery life though. i have a cheapo alldocube tablet for streaming, g99 + 5000mah and it barely lasts 2-3 hours

[acoustic halo]

Wait 2-3 while streaming?

[mortal silo]

yea moonlight/ps5/steam link etc. it's a larger screen and higher brightness but don't think the g99 is an efficient chip

[elder trench]

had to snatch the soul red

https://tenor.com/view/otaku-slide-got-it-オタク-イケてる-gif-11565084

[gray pewter]

My alldocube lasted about 6 hours with light android games

But this is with WiFi turned on, max brightness, 50% volume etc

[elder trench]

hopefully with gammaOS we can juice it to the max

[gray pewter]

Maybe less than that tbh. Lol like 4-4.5. I honestly don’t remember. But yeah the 6hr battery life is hard for me to grasp

But I ultimately used it for e reading and it lasted for days on standby and 30 min increments of reading

I could go a 5-7 days of reading 30-1hr a day and putting it on standby

Obviously not the same power draw but the standby battery was better than I expected

[mortal silo]

interesting. i'm wondering if streaming is considerd performance intensive. always figured it wasn't really

[gray pewter]

And iirc it’s 1920x1080 or something

Or 1200

[tall gazelle]

There’s also performance modes, I’m pretty sure regular Android only has Standard mode, but meanwhile AYANEO actually has a Battery-Saving mode that from what I experienced on the Pocket Air actually helps a lot for battery life with low end stuff.

[odd raft]

you guys know how's Ayaneo with IGG cancellations? Can I preorder with confidence that I'll be able to cancel later?

[elder trench]

as long as its during the sale

[gray pewter]

There should be a policy there but I know people have canceled a week before shipping lol

[tall gazelle]

Oh no it absolutely is. Streaming, while it isn’t specifically high-end, still is definitely more demanding in power draw than any of the lighter stuff.

[gray pewter]

At least compared to GBA it is yes

[elder trench]

just be warned ayaneo does sometimes ship during the campaign so just a heads up

@still ermine did you grab one for your collection

[gray pewter]

of course he did

[mortal silo]

if i can get 3-4 hours with efficient standby with gba, i will be happy. don't really get any marathon sessions with these small handhelds anyways

[elder trench]

gotta have the baby for the evo

[gray pewter]

As long as I’m not charging it daily I’m not mad

Lol

Efficient standby will be crucial

[elder trench]

yea I tend to do like 40 min burst of gametime before I do something else

[gray pewter]

Same, mines just light gaming before bed

[harsh timber]

The video on the IGG page is pretty hilarious. That girl looks like she's in a romantic relationship with her Micro.

[tall gazelle]

Like that one Siri movie?

[wary mirage]

Nothing wrong with that, it's a good looking handheld

[elder trench]

Ayaneo does the best trailers for the devices they put out

[muted rampart]

not big into c-dramas are you?

🤭

i didn't get that from the trailer myself.

they have different visual cues for love on screen over there tho.

[harsh timber]

They should have had the guy and girl caught in a love triangle with the Micro.

[mortal silo]

now that you mention it....

[muted rampart]

i recommend the chinese boys over flowers

it's a good one

and better than the korean version imo

[gray pewter]

😆 a classic

[muted rampart]

altho i do like the lead in the Korean version more

[muted rampart]

TRU

[stoic sparrow]

Ok

I think I’ve successfully staved off buying this device. Fighting fomo is a skill to be learned lol

[muted rampart]

tru

lol

i still haven't fully

and i def should get the black black black red when i eventually do order

but im tempted to grab a retro one tho

[elder trench]

the retro one also comes with a retro case for it

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-perfect-match-shane-luis-rerez-good-fit-meant-for-each-other-gif-26154293

[small robin]

it says limited edition storage bag with the retro, I don't see case

maybe it's just a gray bag

[elder trench]

yea the bag

[small robin]

bag

[elder trench]

this is the normal one that I assume everyone with the gift pack gets

my guess its like a sleeve? like the psp

[lean vapor]

I was kinda hoping for a mini tomtoc case

[elder trench]

just 3d print a empty brick case and you got yourself a case!

https://tenor.com/view/getlit-blazekik-kik-meme-gif4kik-gif-1778728320613035878

I would like to see this portable stand though

[small robin]

maybe just a cardboard stand

[elder trench]

the dmg gets one too

[sour fox]

I am unsure it that comes with the preorders?

[elder trench]

orders before the 7 days get the gift box

[steep surge]

Rather it was cheaper but that tat probably cost a dollar in china

[sour fox]

Ok, thanks. I ordered the mesh bag also.

[sour fox]

Possible Gamma OS incoming?

[harsh timber]

That video must have worked on me.

[river moat]

GAMMA OS INCOMING

[harsh timber]

There really isn't any other device with a high-res 3:2 screen like this.

[wary mirage]

Is this strictly a GBA device for you guys?

[elder trench]

Psp and ps1 max for me

Maybe some lightweight sprite games for ps2

[harsh timber]

I'll probably use it for anything n64 and below. The resolution will make any of the old 4:3 systems look great and the black bars on the side won't be noticable.

[elder trench]

But yea most are gonna be gba

Pokemmo gonna be nice to play on this

[lean vapor]

I am probs going to only go up to dreamcast with this. Maybe light gamecube

Mostly going to be a gba machine though

[harsh timber]

Guess I'm not the only one who noticed this.

[plush quarry]

3:2 makes it a GBA only device to me which feels kinda bad considering the rest of the specs lol

[harsh timber]

If you want a much cheaper GBA-only option, there's the Powkiddy v10, but anything other than GBA will look terrible on it.

[plush quarry]

ive been enjoying the 35XXSP for gba so far

[lean vapor]

I’m good on the V10 front 😅😂

[plush quarry]

not perfect but it does just feel right lol

[wary mirage]

Yupp u won't be disappointed compared to 16:9

[tall gazelle]

Ok, if it does, then the battery life is guaranteed to be really damn good.

This is assuming GammaOS does end up working on this.

[elder trench]

Android 13 I just noticed

[sour fox]

He worked with this SOC before on the KTR1 so we will see. No pressure on him. If he wants to. I am all for it.

[sleek oracle]

I don't see why we couldn't

the only thing limiting it is time

[river moat]

Hehe

[muted rampart]

terraria.

😠

and some nds probably. bc i love animal crossing.

MAYBE EVEN some PSP/gamecube if i wanna get real crazy

[mortal silo]

arcade machine as well. right stick means tate mode and g99 means more modern cave games

[small robin]

how is terraria on a controller?

I played before with m+kb, having a hard time imagining it with controller

[muted rampart]

so good

paired with touch screen is great

need dual sticks tho

I've played so much on switch

[small robin]

ahh ok w/ touchscreen got it

[muted rampart]

even without is good too

fully customizable and button combo controls

so once the muscle memory is there it's nearly as quick as PC

[small robin]

I will try it out on the deck and if it makes sense then I am convinced this is a good little machine for terraria

[muted rampart]

only downside is no mods on android/console terraria

[mortal silo]

there are two mod launchers for android, they're mostly qol/gui stuff but some of the content mods are being ported over as well now

[wary mirage]

Valid

Have you considered the rg556?

Might be better for that

[muted rampart]

too BIG

and bulbous

and....anbernic

at that size you might as well just go pocket air

this is all very subjective preference, i just don't really care for anbernic designs

[wary mirage]

what's wrong w anbernic if you dont mind me asking

[echo estuary]

im in----real excited for this one, went gray

[muted rampart]

.

[muted rampart]

☝️

[wary mirage]

yeah admittedly it's a bad design even though i havent had any issues with it

[muted rampart]

"no issues" >if battery is on top of CPU it's thermal throttling.

it might still run but it's def not gonna be full potential

[icy epoch]

does this Pocket Micro have a touchscreen? it wasn't explicitly stated on the IGG page

[wary mirage]

welll it's not burning down my house either lol & it plays castlevania, zelda fine

all i use it for

[tall gazelle]

It’s only a bad design in that it basically reduces the actual longevity of the battery (since both elevated heat and elevated cold do not work well for batteries lasting long), not battery life per-say, but moreso battery health in regards to how long it lasts before you basically need to replace it.
But this isn’t an issue in terms of safety unless there’s also something like, say, a very poorly placed screw puncturing the battery (I personally haven’t seen any anbernic devices with this issue, but I’ve seen it happen with others).

[river moat]

If its h700 devices then yes but rg556 and rgcube deffo not

[tall gazelle]

Well yeah, that’s why they didn’t with those 2.

[wary mirage]

If by others you're referring to the ktr1, there are more issues than thaat lol

[river moat]

More time it's 35xxsp would have more issues than other h700 devices

[tall gazelle]

Oh absolutely, that was only one of the many issues plaguing that thing.

A good chunk of those were even Software related, as Gamma can personally attest to.

[river moat]

Iike rg t618 era last year

Gamma was the mvp

[wary mirage]

I'm just glad ppl have another 3:2 option even if it's not for me 👍

[tall gazelle]

Doesn’t even make sense in that regard beyond the fact that “several more SP’s were sold than other H700 devices=more of a chance for some bad ones to ship out”.

[river moat]

Yh that one I didn't went through with sp

Same with the cube

[tall gazelle]

Since, let me remind people, the Battery thing is literally what they do with the 28XX and 35XX H as well, and the SP actually has an easier to notice air gap between it and the cpu.

[tall gazelle]

Oh shit, I forgot the whole reason why PSP looked good on the RG351p is because it’s integer scaled.

It’s gonna look even better on the Micro because you’ll be able to upscale it.

[cerulean stag]

woah what link is this, i just asked chatgpt to calculate the same thing but this looks way better than hallucinating AIs pretending to do math

[tall gazelle]

https://shauninman.com/utils/screens/

[cerulean stag]

Shaun is indeed the man

A lot of consoles use 4x3, how important is integer scaling

[tall gazelle]

Not important once you get to 2.5x-3x territory, since by that point shaders can handle the rest for making the games (and particularly the text) look good.

[acoustic halo]

Also depends how picky/attentive to detail you are and how big the screen is. Non-integer GBA usually looks fine to me on 4-5” 720p devices and then suddenly unacceptable on 7-8” ones.

[cerulean stag]

Wonder how well this'll work for PS2

[tall gazelle]

Oh, PS2 I would save until we can get some of these for ourselves and check to see if a bigger battery could work with the shell or not. I would not expect it to last long if they’re getting around 6 hours with GBA and battery-saving mode, that time would exponentially decrease with Max Performance and PS2 performance-demand.

And obviously, if you’re getting this mainly for higher end stuff (say if you already have a lower end Linux handheld), I wouldn’t even get it at all and get the RP4 Pro instead.

[stoic sparrow]

lol I would not play ps2 on this, or even really consider it

[tall gazelle]

Yup, I’d maybe consider Final Fantasy X because that game runs like a champ on almost anything Android-only (so T610 and up), but not much else for PS2 at all.

[tall gazelle]

Also, we should not let Smelly know about this thing, and I actually kind of regret sharing the prices on the emulation channel, because they are very likely to look at this as a potential Animal Crossing machine, like specifically as an RG405M replacement.

[cerulean stag]

The battery is weirdly small for how powerful the CPU is, but I guess they really wanted a 4x GBA device

[stoic sparrow]

lol he’s got the mini, he’s good

[mortal silo]

did i just find my new lumines machine 0.0

[muted rampart]

did someone say animal crossing????????

you know I'm gonna play wild world on this.

maybe even gc ac if it runs

[devout stump]

Under 200 definite buy for me will probably be my main gba system 😁

Total is like 306 shipped with everything ☹️

[gray pewter]

USD? Mine was 220 lol

[devout stump]

Hahaha you're right I almost gave indiegogo a crazy tip 😭😭

[gray pewter]

I never even got my IGG confirmation so I’m going through support right now

Annoying lol. Make sure you’re logged in when you buy

[devout stump]

They are crafty I can't even be that mad at it but I ain't giving it up that easy 😭

[devout stump]

Yeah I didn't plan on buying it just yet regardless I just wanted to see how much it would add up to

[lean vapor]

https://youtu.be/eJBjdqDcC84?si=ya1q7t--Fd_caDjH Russ’ review of the ZPG will give a good idea of performance on G99

[mortal silo]

4-6 hours with a 4500mah battery lol

[somber wave]

Animal crossing is probably the single easiest gamecube game to emulate and runs fine even on t618s so a g99 should have no problems

[small robin]

in for one lol, got the black one

[wary mirage]

Yup considering its a enhanced n64 game lol

[tall gazelle]

Same here.

[tall gazelle]

Well, given what Russ was talking about with the Performance modes, I can’t really expect that this thing has any form of battery-saving modes (since it just doesn’t even need them).

[elder trench]

It most likely will have some sort of profiles like every product they push out

It also doesn't need a fan but they put one in

[foggy jetty]

I thought about scoring one but the only things I care to run on a 1:1 screen all run fine on my modded rgb30. Still, it's a nice looking device.

[gray pewter]

wrong device

this is the 3:2

you're referring to the https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1172729887015051297

[foggy jetty]

The convo was literally just talking about the Unicorn. I think people can figure out what I was referring to even if I forgot to reply to a sppecific comment.

[gray pewter]

i honestly had no idea lol

my bad

[oblique tendon]

It's a pass from me at £25 for shipping!!! Taking the piss

£175 to the UK; na...I'll stick to my A30 or V10 for GBA

[lean vapor]

Import tax on top too. I am contemplating cancelling mine

It would make it a £200+ handheld that does less than cheaper handhelds i own

[muted rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-gif-25290651 i see what happened here

yeah see the convo was about the unicorn for like, two messages and then was back to the micro, is probably what confused ppl about your message

again, the reply feature is for context

takes like, a second to click it

[gray pewter]

All good. I was just confused

[muted rampart]

same lol

[spare echo]

is this an android?

[true cipher]

Yup

[oblique tendon]

Not worth it at that price...much better £200 handhelds out there...

[lean vapor]

Yeah 😦 its a shame us brits get hit hard by import tax. If only Aya would use 4PX

[sour fox]

Have we been told when this will ship?

[elder trench]

middle of sep

[sour fox]

same time as the EVO

[gray pewter]

Evo is November no?

[elder trench]

evo nov

micro sep

[sour fox]

oh i got mixed up. so much info dump today.

[oblique tendon]

I have never paid tax once but all my shipments have been 4px I think

[lean vapor]

Yeah somehow 4px avoids UK Border police 😂 never once been charged when shipped with them. Sadly aya use DHL

[oblique tendon]

I think we pay tax through Ali upfront.... With discounts most of the time

[lean vapor]

Not all the time. I have still had import tax on some purchases with AliE. Its a nightmare to navigate

Rule of thumb is 4PX is good

[oblique tendon]

Must have just got lucky....

Still at £200 this is silly imo. I'd rather have a RG cube for £100 and play PS2 and GameCube

Anbernic will probably clone it anyway 😂 with a H700

[muted rampart]

but that is a larger console and worse screen for gba/psp/android

[oblique tendon]

Well it's a 4inch so not by much imo

[muted rampart]

if those are systems you want in a small form factor this is not a bad price for that

[muted rampart]

tru, but that extra .5" just adds bulk and not screen real estate bc the aspect ratio benefits systems you probs wouldn't want to play anyways on something like this.

also it can do a fair amount of ps2 and gamecube you can even see the ktr1 doing that

not that i would bother myself

maybe a bit of gamecube bc i can't stop playing animal crossing

[oblique tendon]

Don't get me wrong I like the pocket micro.... It's very sexy but at the price its a hard sell for me...

[muted rampart]

https://youtu.be/1owhTScPqeI

like

idk lol

[gray pewter]

Anberbic doing an h700 with higher than 480p seems unlikely. I could see them cloning with just a g99 or t618 anyways

[muted rampart]

seems alright to me

[muted rampart]

it's less than i anticipated it would be from ayaneo

so i think it's pretty much right where they should be

[oblique tendon]

Exactly stick a T610 in it and 4x GBA

[muted rampart]

plus it's metal lol

that is gonna make cost go up alone

[gray pewter]

Right. I would be open to that. I just don’t know if they feel like a sub $150 gba handheld will sell

[muted rampart]

if you want something that does ps2/gamecube at this size anyways this is not the system for you.

like you said, there is the cube

[oblique tendon]

Umm fair.... I'm a DC guy....Sega Fanboy so not bothered about Sony tbh

[muted rampart]

tru, this also does android games and the g99 will play most modern games that are android native

still can't search in threads thanks discord

i forget if it's touch screen or not

i don't have the page pulled up

arthur touched it in the video right?

or did i hallucinate that

[oblique tendon]

If this could be £150 delivered to the UK I'd order one...

Better be touch or DOA

[gray pewter]

Hardly any metal handhelds going for 150 shipped

[oblique tendon]

Umm yes you have a point

[muted rampart]

i wouldn't say so, but terraria is much better with touch screen on android

[lean vapor]

Yeah aya neo make amazing hardware, but if only they would ship with 4PX. For UK at least, it adds a massive chunk to the price

[gray pewter]

Yeah really sucks

[oblique tendon]

Metal does make the price jump... And DHL screw us in the UK

[gray pewter]

A plastic revision by anbernic would be cool

[lean vapor]

So what is $149 jumps to $250ish for us in UK with shipping and taxes

[oblique tendon]

I forgot all about metal handhelds... Only ones I have are the old rg351m and mp

[gray pewter]

Yeah they’re damn expensive lol

[oblique tendon]

Under the bed or something f knows

[lean vapor]

Arthur has said they are considering a budget line

[muted rampart]

only metal handheld i currently use is the rg nano

which might get sold if this console is portable enough to sideline it

[oblique tendon]

If they could do it in plastic and drop the price to make it a round 100 they would sell a zillion

[gray pewter]

I saw that. Not even sure what that would look like

[lean vapor]

I reckon he would follow nothing. And maybe do like a cmf subbrand

[gray pewter]

Makes the most sense

[lean vapor]

As aya is considered a high end brand

[oblique tendon]

The nano any good? I'm considering one

[lean vapor]

X by aya neo brand

[muted rampart]

it's amazing if you want something to play gbc only and if you are out and about often enough to need something for those 10-15min time gaps between stuff happening but you don't want to pull out a whole handheld

mine lives attached to my mid-size purse and if i have to wait on something i just play a bit of pokémon crystal clear.

then when it's time to go it goes to sleep and back in the case super easy.

can even play it one handed

[oblique tendon]

Nice

[muted rampart]

RGC re-review has the right idea. the initial review was not very good.

[foggy jetty]

It wasn't two messages it was the previous eight, and I already addressed the reply thing but go off I guess.

[gray pewter]

Again, it’s not a big deal let’s move on lol

[mortal silo]

what does this have to do with the rg nano?

about metal handhelds, that's one of the main reasons i'm willing to pay this premium for a gba machine. like even using the 353m vs 35xxh, just subjectively much more enjoyment from the metal handheld. except when you drop it on your face >.>

[stoic sparrow]

We talking about the metal rp3+ now?

[plush quarry]

still love my purple rp3+

[tall gazelle]

No, I think they’re talking about the metal RP2S. Well that or the RG405M.

[pliant chasm]

So pixel density. Once you get suitably high res the pixel imbalances become harder to see

[tall gazelle]

Don’t know why you responded to a 2-day old comment, but yes, pixel imbalances would be harder to see at higher resolutions. I’d personally say 2x-3x is still the range where a shader or filter would be preferable, but yeah, it would still definitely be better than what happens if you try playing something like Undertale on a resolution lower than 480p (which is when you get “below native res” quality).

[pliant chasm]

Sorry I was just catching up and didn’t see the date lol

[somber cape]

Question about the battery problem and higher-end emulation: How would this thing deal with GC or PS2… would even PSP on this thing be bad too..? (In terms of battery consumption) Would it be so bad that you’d have to resort to using the damn thing on the charger? (Is this… a bad thing to do on a device like this)

And then I thought… if the battery is so small, then would it take like less than an hour to fully charge or something? Seems like it would be the case and if it would- I guess thats kinda cool

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the battery life on this would be better than the RG552, pretty sure the G99 has much better power consumption than the RK3399.

like are they serious

oh wow this too

[cerulean patrol]

Both of those are probably a stretch. 6hrs of 8bit probably but guarantee what PS2 it will play won't last near 6 hours.

[tall gazelle]

Yup, those retro games are the whole point of it, so it makes sense that those would be the focus for battery life.

[cerulean patrol]

Yep, but they was asking about PS2, GC and PSP, so they shouldn't plan on that number.

[tall gazelle]

Exactly, and I personally wouldn’t recommend this thing for them.

[cerulean patrol]

Agreed, small screen size and a lot of tinkering with the G99

[somber cape]

not even two hours?

anyways i already have a 405v, and i really only play kingdom hearts 1 and 2 (final mix) on the ps2 side of things, which run great on any T618
(just saying that now makes me realize that 5500 to 2600 would be a drastic drop in battery life man)

so tinkering isnt a problem

[cerulean patrol]

I would think you'd probably be at 2 to maybe 3 hours.

[somber cape]

Also it shouldnt take too long to charge considering its 2600 mah

[tall gazelle]

Oh definitely stick with that, and if you really want a G99 handheld, just get the A1 Unicorn, that would be decently good and cheap. I’d suggest something other than a 1:1 aspect ratio handheld, but the Unicorn is the literal only other device with a G99 that I can personally recommend in good faith.

But, if you’re fine with up to $200 in price plus shipping, I’d suggest the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro ($200 plus shipping) or the Retroid Pocket 4 regular version ($150 plus shipping). They have excellent battery life, the RP4 is still decently strong with just a D900, the Pro is really damn powerful for the price.

[somber cape]

I just hate that i love niche things lol

[tall gazelle]

And the best part? Both support quick charging, so you will still have pretty good charging times for them.

[somber cape]

however i will say that 190$ for the pocket micro when (for only 10$ more) you could get an RP4p

but hey

metal costs and... ayaneo- tax i guess?

[elder trench]

People are most likely buying this for more of the design than performance

[somber cape]

also something strange i noticed is that... what is this competing with?

[elder trench]

Don't know

[somber cape]

very strange move on ayaneos part tbh

[elder trench]

Don't think it's trying to

It's part of their retro line

[tall gazelle]

No, it’s just the metal shell and possibly the screen.

[somber cape]

it cant realistically compete with the RP2s, so not that. but yea its probably their niche or... premium take on a retro handheld

[elder trench]

Metal shell with a good screen and front glass plate

[tall gazelle]

This is actually cheaper than what some people were assuming (even though it’s about the right price increase for international versus the cheaper domestic, which is what I kept saying only for no one to take it seriously…)

[somber cape]

i DONT hate it so theres that

[elder trench]

Yea with shipping it came out to $220 usd

[somber cape]

no way what

30$ shipping???

[elder trench]

Yea

[somber cape]

god that makes me mad

[elder trench]

The only thing that bothers me is the small battery and the fan

[somber cape]

You can just shut it off though right?

[elder trench]

They could have just not added one

It doesn't need it

[tall gazelle]

Yeah, they get DHL for it, and those guys aren’t cheap (but they are almost always only like 3-4 days from pickup to delivery, sometimes even 2 days).

[elder trench]

Yea DHL is my preferred shipping choice

Really fast and no issues

[tall gazelle]

Of course, some people get insanely unlucky if they live in certain areas…

[elder trench]

Brazil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106487742403203164/1241949152880099358/image0.gif

[somber cape]

Without the early bird price thats... almost $250

[elder trench]

Yea I wouldn't buy anything ayaneo at retail price lol

Best time to snatch em is eb prices imo

[tall gazelle]

Yup, but hey, Early Bird is usually the max price used for Secondhand as well, usually being cheaper.

And AYANEO is very unique in that their massive prices usually mean people feel insanely incentivized to just return for full refund if they don’t like it or got a bad device.

[elder trench]

I have my pokemon and battlenetwork games ready to go

[somber cape]

also what is this, does this come with buying it off indiegogo?

[elder trench]

Only those who buy it in the first 7 days

[tall gazelle]

Yes, it’s only for the first 7 days of pre-orders though.

[somber cape]

Yeah, I'm starting to hate this thing a tiny bit.

[tall gazelle]

It released on the 31st, so there’s still like 4-5 days.

[elder trench]

If you care about performance you could get a brand new rp4p for the same price

And handles ps2 and gc easy

[tall gazelle]

Exactly.

[somber cape]

I don't care about performance, I just care for a cool device and... these prices are NOT cool

[tall gazelle]

Unironically, they’re really good for a metal shell handheld with a G99, terrible battery aside.

The reality is that this particular kind of “interesting” or “weird” handheld doesn’t end up being cheap, and unfortunately, even the A1 Unicorn, being a Plastic handheld with a 1:1 screen, is still around $130 plus shipping for the literal exact same specs in chipset and Ram/Storage.

[tall gazelle]

Meaning that extra $60 is from the Metal Shell and possibly the screen, a price difference that honestly does make sense.

[autumn wagon]

Probably the metal shell, and the Aya premium look fee .

This screen going to be used in a 60/65 USD handheld from magicX

[somber cape]

You're right I suppose, thanks for all of that.

[tall gazelle]

Oh I know, I was talking about the price difference between the 3:2 and the 1:1 screens, since that would only barely counterbalance it.

[fresh vigil]

Sooo… this have a bad battery life right? That’s what i’m understanding

[muted rampart]

look to the ktr1, most gamecube will probably run fine, battery life won't be anywhere near the advertising claims(as that is advertised as GBA battery life from what i can tell), and ps2 will probably need tweaking if stuff runs at all.

https://youtu.be/1owhTScPqeI

https://youtu.be/Q40KF7wFFDA

[muted rampart]

it just has a smaller battery than other things in this price bracket

and it sounds like the g99 isn't a chip with a particular focus on efficiency