Anbernic RG406V

[oak nimbus]

Ah, lol

Is this the Zork machine?

[quick fiber]

Mmmmmm

[gentle patio]

hmm interesting, so something like this?

[wary kestrel]

I would buy that immediately...

[oak nimbus]

Looks cramped as hell tbh

I get that some people really need that pocketability, but still

[gentle patio]

Oh yeah I didn't realized that, but then again the gpd win mini has that in-line layout as well so I guess it could work

[oak nimbus]

Some people really love PSP Go

But I think PSP library is actually not that stick heavy (and it only has one stick)

[gentle patio]

I mean, technically, the PSP uses sliders, but the PSP from what I remember does use the sliders a lot since this was the time when games for the PS2 were also transitioning to using the sticks for movement

[plain igloo]

why would I pick slide out controls that leave the screen exposed over a clamshell though?

the overlap when open leaves you less room for controls too

[wary kestrel]

Because it’s cool and the slider is a fidgeted dream

[last goblet]

There is someone working on something like a slider for a phone to play games.

[wide matrix]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

not that wide though

[gentle patio]

I felt like procrastinating in the middle of my freelance and I saw your post, I was just going by your image, I mean I do have the skills to do a proper one in 3D but my photoshop was already open 😅 and it takes less time

But hey, that extra width would be good for DS and PSP

[wide matrix]

i'm not criticising your work

[wide matrix]

got good point there

[raven nexus]

I really wish the kid would stop paywalling updates and news on it behind his Patreon.
I get that he’s gotta get paid but he’s already running a kickstarter for it from what I remember so it’s really confusing.

[last goblet]

I am not following it close at all. If he wants to keep stuff behind a paywall it's ok to me. This is something a bigger company could steal.

[raven nexus]

I mean, if a company wants to steal it a paywall isn’t going to stop them. He already has a public 16 minute video detailing exactly how he made it.

[wide matrix]

who?!

oh i think i know the thing you're referring to

just not the creator's exact info

[steady rover]

Did the leakers get the rg406 mixed up with the rg40xx? Or is a RG406 actually happening?

[oak nimbus]

I mean, Anbernic leaks are usually just screenshots from their QQ channel, it's posts by either Max or their community manager (I think). Sometimes it's them posting on the Baidu equivalent of /r/sbcgaming

So 406 has been mentioned specifically by them for I think a year and half now

It's weird that they're talking about 406 in advance though, they usually don't do that

Like they've been teasing 406 while they were teasing 556 and said it was supposed to come in spring (April IIRC)

Then they decided to launch Cube to undercut ZPG, and people were asking them about 406 and now it's Q4

[oak nimbus]

But I mean this is why their leaks are usually reliable — it's not some rando from customer support saying something, it's their CTO/founder showing an engineering sample 3-4 weeks before launch (but not in the case of 406)

[unborn sierra]

i think they are still trying to source higher res screen for it

cause the original leak alongside back then "506" mentioned that

and its only thing that makese sense why it hasnt appeared yet in sea of XXes

[safe bolt]

That's our best running theory. It's all about the high res screen

That Zu was bragging about

[plain igloo]

Now he has to deliver by Christmas

[unborn sierra]

that still means 5 more H700s

[plain igloo]

well we're getting exactly one release per month

40xx is july

so 5 more releases total and at least one of them will be t820

[unborn sierra]

so
40xx - july
28xxV - august
Arc Pro - September
Cube XX - November
"retroid flip" like device - December ( to rush before Flip 2)
"406" - January (delayed cause of the above)
RG Tate - Feb

[oak nimbus]

Ooooh I like

[unborn sierra]

lets call it educated guess 😄

[rocky zephyr]

28xxV sounds cool

[whole vale]

Arc Pro - September
dear babby jesus in heaven please let it happen

[plain igloo]

T820 arc with sticks 🤤

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, Arc Pro would be my end game device. Basically just use a Saturn-capable chip and there's very little Anbernic can do to fuck it up for me

[ripe oyster]

With a stick it's also a perfect N64 device with that button layout

[oak nimbus]

That's getting into "they definitely can fuck it up" territory for me lol

Saturn controller shape is just too perfect to mess with

I mean, someone has made a mockup where sticks are where Arc now has speakers

I'd say that placement would be unusable, but wouldn't ruin the device for me

[quick ocean]

Can't see an Arc Pro making the schedule, the h700 wouldn't have the power and they wouldn't do two t820's in 3 months like that

[unborn sierra]

Rg556 wa March, cube is June so that's exactly 3 months ... so my guesstimate put Arc Pro to another 3 months

[oak nimbus]

Wasn‘t 405V right after 405M though?

With 40xx finally out of the way we‘ll probably see something new in a week or two

[unborn sierra]

yup

[ember vortex]

Nope, 405M was released in March and 405V was released i n September.

[oak nimbus]

Oh, I think I remember now there were 353PS and Nano inbetween, completely forgot about those

[ember vortex]

No worries, time also flies suprisingly fast for me 😉 probably due to my age 😭 :D.

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, I was dead sure 405V was a summer release

[unborn sierra]

yup , you sneeze and its3 months later

[oak nimbus]

So how much pepper do I need to rub into my nostrils to see Arc Pro released?

[quick ocean]

What would be in an arc pro though, h700 wouldn't be a step up and they wouldn't release one of those as a t820 ahead of a more popular form factor

[unborn sierra]

T820 in my guess

[quick ocean]

Hopefully the eventual 4:3 t820 does come with an arc dpad though

[unborn sierra]

"Arc Pro" with T820 would solve my prefect DC/Saturn + N64 device needs

"406" with higher res screen would be my "pocketable PS2/GC" need 😄

[oak nimbus]

Well, yeah, T820 should put the device within an inch from very good Saturn

[unborn sierra]

Cube is weird one for me ...for my 1:1 needs , rgb30 is enough , but might pro a ly grab it down the line if price gets low enough

[oak nimbus]

Weirdly enough, seems like RK3588S is really not bad for Beetle (and this is with rewind) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2tR7IDCmU

Maybe that's because CPU-bound stuff seems to perform better on the Linux side, and Beetle doesn't seem to rely too much on the GPU

[cinder monolith]

Yes please

[sonic raptor]

There was just a libmali gpu driver added to rocknix that gave the ACE a big performance boost yesterday - too bad the device is a hot mess.

[plain igloo]

yeah, powkiddy and presumably others will make 3588 devices too eventually

[quick ocean]

what's the power efficiency like with the chipset anyway?

[plain igloo]

I think it falls into “not great, not terrible” - will probably need a fan to do ps2 and up

And then the fan drains wattage too so it’ll need to be a decent sized handheld

Doubt we’ll see any tiny pocketable 3588 stuff

[oak nimbus]

I wonder how it compares to T820 or the Dimensity stuff

[plain igloo]

Personally if they did “we have odin 2 mini at home” size/shape for a 3588 I’d be very happy

Something chonky but flat

[oak nimbus]

But of course it's not gonna go into your next small gameboy clone

[plain igloo]

I’d pick a vita style medium size handheld over a switch lite style one every time

[quick ocean]

Unless ayaneo get their hands on it

[fair leaf]

honestly not a clue but i think the demand for it has mostly died away

[oak nimbus]

I mean, yeah, the biggest appeal is Linux support, and most people have simply moved on by now. I'd argue the people that cared were a rather vocal minority to begin with

But if an RK3588S ends up being cheaper than current mainstream Android handhelds without critical deal breakers (see Ace or Max3 Pro), it might become relevant

[trail garnet]

Will this release this year?

[raven nexus]

Max said Q4 so probably

[wraith orchid]

So are we expecting the 6 to be the T820?

[plain igloo]

Yup

[trail garnet]

I'm hoping the 406 will be my last retro handheld

[unborn sierra]

same 😄

although i will probably still upgrade without thinking if for example Arc pro appears

[trail garnet]

A powerful 4:3 with a decent res is all I really want now

I dont even mind if it's dpad top or bottom

[unborn sierra]

pretty muuch ... its the only niche i am missing

[queen igloo]

Managed to secure a 405M for £58 now watch Anbernic announce the 406M next week

[unborn sierra]

thx for your sacrifice

[queen igloo]

Well with RG Cube still being £150 even if it does release I wouldn't be too bothered as the higher end devices don't seem to drop in price as fast as the XX line

[unborn sierra]

i have been kinda itching for cube too ... outside expenses stopped me 😄

[sharp bloom]

ah, I remember being young

such an innocent time

[sharp bloom]

where? that's one hell of a deal

[sullen zealot]

I remember when I thought my rg351M would be my first, only and last handheld

[somber sequoia]

Back when 1 handheld and 3 games was enough

[queen igloo]

Ebay buy it now price was 100 I sent out a best offer and surprisingly got accepted

[steady rover]

Closer to 1st Oct or 31st Dec?

[raven nexus]

🤷‍♂️

[sharp bloom]

Max says lots of things

I wouldn't hold my breath for Q4

treat it as vaporware until we see more tangible leaks

[raven nexus]

If Retroid releases something soon you can bet they’ll rush the 406 release lol

[sonic copper]

meanwhile, retroid:

[trail garnet]

Flip 2 when?

[oak nimbus]

Damn, for a moment there I thought it was another weird teaser image from their social media

[worn juniper]

I was just going on in another channel about what a handy little device the flip is. If the hinge is fixed I don't see a downside in giving it another go.

[steady rover]

An upgraded Retroid Pocket 2S replacement with a 4 inch screen to give RG406 a competitor. 👍

[neon oar]

I'd use the Flip more if they gave it in line triggers. The flares just make it not pocket friendly. That's all I want out of the RG406 is the exact same form factor as the 405M or close to and more power!

[trail garnet]

Yup I would actually like the retroid dpad better

[worn juniper]

If they're going to hurt pocketability for analogue triggers they could at least give us pressure-sensitive face-buttons too for ps2 games.

[steel halo]

i doubt that's easy to implement

[queen igloo]

Anyone know how the 556 and Cube perform with Dolphin and AetherSX witout the fan turned on. It would give an idea if the chipset is even worth having in a 405M shell

[unborn sierra]

Tbh I doubt 406 will be 1:1 same shell

[queen igloo]

Same shell meaning pocketable, if it's not picketable there is no appeal to have a 406

[unborn sierra]

they can keep it pocketable

without having to have 1:1 same shell

[steel halo]

might be more like the 40xx which would be cool

[unborn sierra]

case in point .. it needs stacked triggers for PS2/gc ... so needs shell slighly modified just for that

[candid merlin]

they both hardly get hot

[plain igloo]

In hardware I’m pretty sure it’s just a force sensing resistor under each button but in software I agree

[steel halo]

yeah i meant software wise

[worn juniper]

A potentially simpler way of doing it would be to have one part of the conductive rubber membrane complete one circuit while pressing lightly, while pressing harder causes another part of the membrane to complete a second circuit, registering it as a harder press.

[plain igloo]

Yeah I think the ps2 buttons had analogue output not just trinary off/soft/hard though

Barely any games used it, luckily

[steel halo]

yeah it was analogue

i remember from gran turismo

[last goblet]

Love that this is so much of a rumor that there isn't anything pinned for it

[unborn sierra]

it was pinned in other reated threads 😄

[last goblet]

That just means no one really care enough about this.

[wary kestrel]

So with the 40xx just released it’s almost certain Anbernic is going to release info on their next handheld. With that in mind.

https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-bern-point-speech-gif-14625330

I am once again asking for a 405 successor

[plain igloo]

Nah, 32xxVM

[wary kestrel]

I would honestly take a 28xx V if it was in the 280v form factor

[plain igloo]

What if it was basically an rg nano but 28xx sized

A durable metal h700 miyoo mini

Aka the gkd pixel destroyer

[wary kestrel]

Ooh

[sonic raptor]

Still want a 405m successor more

Give me 4:3 with decent ps2/gc performance please

[somber sequoia]

Plz daddy anbernic

[smoky quartz]

I bought an R36S a couple months back and it's a great experience for $35, but I've been wanting an upgrade

If my budget is around $100, is the RG406 the ideal handheld to wait for?

Or should I look into a Retroid Pocket 2S/something else?

[keen gale]

Doubt a rg406 would be anywhere near 100, especially after shipping.
If it's using a t820 and released this year at least...

[sonic copper]

Any of the XXs should be a good step forward.

[keen gale]

Not much point upgrading to a h700 device from a rk3326 imo, if aiming around 100 USD. rp2s is the best bet for now (if retroid don't surprise us with a rp3s/4s) , unless going for the OGU or rgb10max3 pro (which I personally can't recommend)

[sonic copper]

I'd say it's the worst time to get a rp2s, it really looks like a refresh or successor is due

[wary kestrel]

The 2S is an awesome device, but yeah we are about six months from the last retroid release, so we should be due for something form them soonish. Im hopoing for either a flip revision or else a 4:3 4in device which can play a larger amount of gamecube and ps2 personally.

[smoky quartz]

Are the Retroids the only best options in the $100-$200 range?

[wraith orchid]

Cube and 556 aren’t bad options depending on your needs

[smoky quartz]

I found a used rp3 for $95, but I wonder if it might be worth the money to spend ~$150 to get better performance

[wraith orchid]

RP3 or 3+?

[smoky quartz]

Just the regular, not the plus

[wraith orchid]

The RP2S is better then the RP3 unless you absolutely hate the form factor or need 16:9

If you can save and get a RP4 or used RP4P you will definitely get your moneys worth. I’ve seen non-pros go for $130 or less here and Pros for $175.

But if $100 is a hard limit I’d get the RP2S

[smoky quartz]

Huh, I would've thought the 3 would be more powerful than the 2S

[wraith orchid]

The 2S got the T610 and the 3+ has the T618, the 3 has the T310

The 2S also has the upgraded thumb sticks that the 4 series got

[smoky quartz]

I went from wanting to upgrade my $35 R36S, so I wanted the rg35xx h for $60, but then I wanted the 4" version since it just released for $75, but then I wanted the Powkiddy X55 since it went on sale for $70, but then I wanted something a bit more powerful like the RP2S for $100, but then I found the RP3 for $95, but apparently it's weaker than the 2S, so now I'm considering an RP4 for $150, but everyone says the RP4P is a better value at $200

Scope creep is so real

I should probably limit my budget to under $150, or else I'll eventually reach the Odin 2 for $300

[fair leaf]

cube and 556 are prolly better than the rp4 if you care abt ergo and screen

[wraith orchid]

Just buy a SteamDeck

[wraith orchid]

I’d agree except for the sticks on the 556 are a tough sell on a larger device. But yeah.

[smoky quartz]

I almost did last night lol

There was a bidding I found ending in 15 minutes at $200

[wraith orchid]

You wouldn’t regret it tbh. But it’s way out of the budget

[smoky quartz]

Used 64GB launch model though

I would like a Steam Deck in the future, maybe a Steam Deck 2 if Valve releases it with the new AMD APU coming out

[wraith orchid]

I don’t personally think we will see a Deck 2 for a long time

There isn’t anything to upgrade to. But that’s probably a chat for #🚂│valve

[smoky quartz]

Apparently AMD's mobile APU Strix Halo is going to be pretty powerful, I've heard it'll be around the performance of an RTX 4070 mobile

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged-amd-strix-halo-appears-in-the-very-first-benchmark-features-5-36-ghz-clock

Just learned what the TDP is, 120W

Steam Deck is 45W, and according to the chart there the 45W version of Strix Halo is closer to an RTX 3050

[plain igloo]

steam deck is 15 watt tdp

[smoky quartz]

Oh, is this something different?

[wary kestrel]

@smoky quartz you may also consider the rg505 or 405. You can get the 405 for around the 90-100 USD range in the marketplace, and 505's sell for 75 or so. Similar performance to the 3+ but by Anbernic.

[lost sentinel]

yeah that's talking about the wattage of the charger it comes with

not the wattage of the device itself

looks like it's not just me, google really is getting more useless lol

[worn juniper]

Google AI.

[smoky quartz]

Actually, it'd say AI Overview at the top if it used AI, like in your screenshot

That summary was just the regular one they always used before

[smoky quartz]

The X55, Retroid Pocket 2S, and RG556 all look nearly perfect for me

Sadly, the X55 apparently still isn't strong enough to handle the N64 from what I've seen in reviews

[plain igloo]

yeah the charger is 45 watts so you can charge the battery and play at the same time

but the actual APU in the deck uses 15w max, then the rest of the deck (wifi, screen, ram, storage, etc) usually uses about 5-ish

[smoky quartz]

The Pocket 2S looks great, but I wish it had a bigger screen

The 556 looks like a great combination of the two, but it's twice the price of the 2S and three times the price of the X55

[fair leaf]

honestly its worth

[wary kestrel]

That was why I wound up selling mine. For the price I would like a bigger screen. Still solid and perfectly playable though and honestly if retroid released an improved version (rp2spro?) it would probably be an instant buy for me.

[steady rover]

Any updates? Or will it be dropped in Nov-Dec?

[trail garnet]

🥺 I hope so

[safe bolt]

Looks like it's going to be RG40XXV, then RG CUBEXX.

And there might have been another one in the mix, not sure

[wary kestrel]

If we are all good little boys and girls then maybe Santa gives it to us on Christmas.
My theory is Anbernic knows this will sell like wildfire so they are delaying it (not canceled by god I hope) so they can sell a ton of other devices because they assume most people would consider a 406 their one and done and not buy any more devices for awhile.

[safe bolt]

Could be. But there's always a place for good linux devices.

[steady rover]

RG CUBEXX? Will that just be a budget/Linux cube?

[wraith orchid]

Probably. I wonder how more intensive PS1 titles will run at 720p though

[knotty relic]

cubexx should just be called rgx³

[somber sequoia]

Or maybe... RGXXX

[empty veldt]

They should just call it the Anbernic Nintendo Gamecube

[unborn sierra]

RG 64XXX ... basically N64 controller , with 4" screen in the middle

[wary kestrel]

I’m listening

[somber sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/kombucha-tea-girl-drink-hmm-no-well-gif-16080897

[empty veldt]

The gap between the d-pad and the start button makes me feel all itchy

[quick ocean]

An RG64XX X would be a 6.4" H700 in any case. 😄

[tawny yarrow]

Move Start below analogue stick, widen and move the screen down towards the stick.

[haughty relic]

ftfy

10/10 pocketability!

maybe this is better, heh

[somber sequoia]

NGL that stick looks hella uncomfortable to use lol

[haughty relic]

I got you

Hear me out...

that's enough of that though, haha

[sonic raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/muffin-time-muffin-die-just-wanna-die-kill-me-gif-15310975

[sharp bloom]

maybe it's just time to admit the n64 controller wasn't that good to begin with

[somber sequoia]

Okay fellas

Is this thing actually coming out or not

[frank sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/nightmare-yoship-ffxiv-gif-18298972

[wary kestrel]

I think the buttons all work, joystick, six face buttons, shoulder and a trigger. But how they were arranged was a bit of a misstep

[trail garnet]

im pretty sure most think its nintendo's worst/weirdest controller

if i was born around that time, i def would have gotten a ps1 instead

[celest robin]

at this point if it has a screen, buttons, you can put two hands on it and it runs on a battery it's a handheld

a Tesla passes as a handheld gaming device at this point

[celest robin]

talking abt this. Someone's gonna do something like this at some point. I'm sure

[unborn sierra]

well it did have steam at some point 😄 iirc its removed now

[bright crane]

okay you guys got your wish:
https://www.techeasy.org/threads/rg406-周哥年底壓箱4吋旗艦.46/

[trail garnet]

Excited

Idk why but that green looks great

[rich coral]

That‘s a mock up from Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/s/pEaHD334lV

[trail garnet]

damn

fell for it

[rich coral]

I wonder what this is about though

[ember vortex]

basically he says that 406 is not the same screen as 40xx, that its 960x720 (according to google translate)

[tight reef]

🙏

[rich coral]

What about the 1200x800 picture above, if I may ask

[ember vortex]

This is something I think is taken out of context:

Unless they are indeed preparing gba handheld?

[tight reef]

I am very curious what their next android handheld will be

556 > cube > ??? should be a pretty nice one, track records been good. Hope it's the 406 though lol

[rich coral]

Appreciate it

[ember vortex]

also it seems that the full name is rg406H so I think V is also coming xD

[rich coral]

I would not be suprised

[trail garnet]

Lol jfc another one

[oak nimbus]

I mean Max has been posting single liners about 406 on QQ for over 1.5 years now

[rich coral]

Very true

[unborn sierra]

so is it finally happening?

and yeah its been originally teased alongside "506" (which turned into 556)

i guess screen was always the holdup

also GBA hanheld sounds like fun idea too ... i mostly use my OGA for GBA

[supple crescent]

Yeah I hope anbernic will bring something with a 3:2 screen. The 406 sounds amazing for GB/a, PSP I just hope they don't screw up the shoulder buttons. I hate anbernic's clicky shoulders

[oak nimbus]

Well, IMO T820 is kinda overkill for GBA/PSP

I'd prefer a 3:2 device that is fanless and comparable to an actual PSP in size

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, exactly that, but less QC issues and easy to buy

I know one can post a picture of AN Micro after that, maybe it is the answer

[rich coral]

Or

Same 960x640 screen as on the micro but it’s planned for December

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, I'm definitely following that

Just worry the A523 won't be enough for full PSP after all, judging by the videos we have

One or two big CPU cores would've definitely helped there

[cloud yarrow]

I dunno, 3.3 inch psp gaming sounds a little too small

[sharp bloom]

aren't these from like a year ago? I don't think we have had any new "leaks" recently

[oak nimbus]

Well they're mentioning 40xx there, so this can't be old

But yeah, 960x720 isn't new info

[sharp bloom]

ah gotcha

well at least the dream is still alive then

[rich coral]

Knowing when this was posted would be helpful but I’m sure it can’t take that much longer

[rich coral]

They also have a handheld with a 4“ 5:3 screen coming

[cloud yarrow]

Huh, that's basically a psp go without the 1 to 1 scaling

[rich coral]

That screen works best with 3:2 and 4:3

16:9 would benefit a lot from a higher res like on the rg552 screen

[unborn sierra]

tbh this one ould replace my OGA

406 (pokectable 4:3 cabable of GC/PS2) is something niche i am still missing

Still undecided if ishould replace my rgb30 with cube (heard pico8 is messy on adroid)

[cloud yarrow]

Only go with an rg cube if you aren't satisfied with preformance of rgb30 imo

[lost sentinel]

xu mini L right? personally I don't think it will be very appealing, even without knowing the design. based on what we know so far it has the same chip as the TSP which means okayish PSP performance but will have a worse screen for PSP than TSP. and the price will be a bit higher. I guess if you want a GBA handheld this is what it'll be good for but I'm more interested in the touch one, gimmicks and all

[cloud yarrow]

A 800x480p screen only really has the edge over 640x480p handhelds with gba and wonderswan. Unless you would want to play 3ds games without the botton screen which this device is clearly not even close to emulating anyway.

[unborn sierra]

i am getting more and more annoyed with the batery issues

[sullen zealot]

I wish the rgb30 did not had such bad quality and problems

[rich coral]

I fully agree with you on that one

[cloud yarrow]

If you're planning on getting a cube be careful of lightbleed

It's a known issue with cubes

[trail garnet]

Did they not solve that already ?

[cloud yarrow]

I haven't heard about it, but you may be correct

[unborn sierra]

yeah its such a great device when it works .... but at times when the problem appears is just obnoxious

[empty veldt]

Is that like fully confirmed or just a leak?

Oh wait still only 480p, not the most amazing

[rich coral]

Confirmed but yes no 720p+ yet

[plain igloo]

960x720 integer scales gba and psp

And GBC, and most home consoles…

[plain igloo]

406v in that 40xxV blue colourway would be endgame for me

[celest robin]

EW what the fuck is that bro

like what is the 2nd bottom dpad on the right lol i can't with these ideas

is that an Ayaneo?

[plain igloo]

It’s for tate +NDS

Could also use the right dpad as C buttons for n64

[empty veldt]

Yeah its kinda neat, though I feel like it would be weighted top heavy in that configuration

Well not really top heavy but it's so long it might feel that way

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, it's a very cool concept, kinda rooting for it

Basically a device to play the entire library of the 2000s handhelds that should also feel like an actual handheld (not too big, no fan, etc)

Just hope that chip won't let it down

[unborn sierra]

should be also great for gba

[plain igloo]

Yeah I meant the second dpad is for tate and NDS

The left stick is for psp

Looks like this will cover basically every handheld up to NDS/psp

[unborn sierra]

i am planning it basically specifically for tate, nds and gba and maybe n64 😄 ... (kinda found that i find DS on actual DS annoying 😄)

406 .. will be the 4:3 endgame for me

[worn juniper]

We need more etsy creators making 3d printed grips to support tate mode.

[rich coral]

Touch zero is vertical

Just wait for a fully vertical handheld for that purpose

We gotta stop the trend of putting grips on anything

[worn juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer40k-warhammer40k-heresy-detected-warhammer40k-space-marines-gif-26543746

[unborn sierra]

how about putting grips on grips?

[rich coral]

I mean seriously what the grip is this??

Don’t tell me you unironically like that

[rich coral]

Like this? ._.

If you need grips for the Odin 2 you should be in the NBA

And buy a custom milded handheld with your million dollar salary

[unborn sierra]

its missing one handke ti be n64 grip

[rich coral]

(No actual hate to grippers I’m exaggerating for no reason, if that’s the way you enjoy gaming go for it )

[cloud yarrow]

do we know the dimensions of this device yet?

[rich coral]

I have no idea how I found this but here :

[cloud yarrow]

thanks man

I wanted to compare it to the rg351p

[rich coral]

Let’s get back to the topic

RG406H leaks from max zhous kun‘s basement

[cloud yarrow]

seems like a handheld my grandma would have bought me for chrismas

[rich coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457672688656187392/1242687184629141554/image0.gif

Does your grandma look like this? 🤔

[cloud yarrow]

I mean the hair kinda checks out

[rich coral]

Speaking of Christmas

Im positive this thing will release before then

No way they have enough H700 handhelds to stall out their next Android release

[unborn sierra]

yeah we still have few months before xmas ... and they seems to do one a month

although i wouldn't mind "Arc Pro" either 😛

[worn juniper]

Poor execution but I would 100% rather play tate mode with even that than no grip.

[plain igloo]

I hope we get a 406v

Just a 405v but in the 40xxV blue, better shoulders, and the t820

[haughty relic]

Don't tease me with my own designs, lol

[haughty relic]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-it-georgia-dawgs-go-uga-gif-16018867

[rich coral]

I just did and there is nothing you can do about it

[celest robin]

the shit I see on here

[wary kestrel]

All we need is a beefier 40xxh with the same chip as the 006 series…

[sonic schooner]

This, I needs 🙀

[sharp bloom]

If the Retroid rumor is true it might finally push Anbernic to make the rg406

[wary kestrel]

Retroid rumor?

[tawny yarrow]

#1275306435198062633 message

[wary kestrel]

Ooh

[hallow portal]

Or steal it.

[wide matrix]

Why is this not closed now that the Retroid rumor is closed

[tight reef]

Justice for whatprice 💯

Tbf no one on anbernic has disproved the legitimacy of a 406

[wraith orchid]

lol, I’m not even sure why the other one is closed. There were three rumors there: 1 a device is coming 2 the SOC 3 it would be revealed this week.

They weren’t really clear on which part was a “fake leak”.

[wide matrix]

The display resolution is the only info that's completely inplausible

The simple fact that it's coming this week has been pretty much not disputed in the CDM community

Wait it out, see what happens

[tight reef]

per aish his retroid connection said that the rumor is all false

Well I guess they didn’t specify which part exactly, but to me it just sounded like there wasn’t a device at all?

[tight reef]

I thought this was obvious too and I don’t really know who aish’s connect is but isn’t your SS from the retroid rep lol

[wide matrix]

Should be

[bright crane]

False equivalency

Max leaks his own info, so its legit. "I can't have the toy I want so you cant have yours" is kinda weird.

[quick fiber]

Maybe we are getting new device from retroid probably later on

Maybe not next week but

[bright crane]

if next week comes and its a relaunched Pocket Flip or other form factor, that will explain "the entire leak was wrong".

[plain igloo]

Retroid doesn’t make handhelds anymore, they are competing with ugreen now and letting anbernic take over the sub $200 handheld space entirely

They’re a usb C hub company

[wide matrix]

I'm not saying I'm...

Well if the new device does get revealed, will the same Retroid post be re-opened or stay shut for another post?

[plain igloo]

Depends how close to the leak it is I guess

But it’s probably just gonna be a battery bank so not thread worthy anyway

It’ll only charge 1 of their 3 skus probably too

[bright crane]

Battery bank, dock, folding b/t keyboard kit....

that would be based of them.

[plain igloo]

Honestly given the rp4 base didn’t sell at all and doesn’t work with the dock they should probably just discontinue it as soon as they can afford to cut the price of the pro enough for nobody to complain ($165?)

But that still leaves the 2s in an awkward spot

Especially with how many cheaper devices have better screens now (RGB30, 40xxH, 40xxV, rgb20sx)

[bright crane]

There are people around here that still buy the rp4 if they're on a budget

I've seen a few in the what should I buy channel go that route

Its like people who buy the z1 over the z1e ally. "pick the best one or don't get it at all" is a popular mindset.

[quick fiber]

Unfortunately we only got z1e which its no problem it's win win

[quick fiber]

Actually you might on with something they did it with rp2s so

[bright crane]

there's also a bit of social antithesis too. Funny how companies will launch something nobody asked for just to try something new or avoid the hivemind. People will pick something different out of instinct as well

1:1 handhelds, for instance

[wide matrix]

#1276131252931526747 Storm's coming

[unborn sierra]

time for Anbernic to rush it before them

[toxic stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-fight-gif-19050171

[oak nimbus]

There are four posts about the Mini on the handhelds Baidu page right now

Yeah, Max is gonna notice 😄

[molten trail]

Imagine it has now moved up the list and will likely be next after 40XXV. They always like to go against other similar products on market

[unborn sierra]

good good

[wraith orchid]

Anbernic kinda blew it. Could have been giving people what they really wanted instead of another large XX variant :/

[unborn sierra]

i still thig it hanngs on the screen

but who knows

[sharp bloom]

alright, finally, it's game time Anbernic

don't disappoint us

[quick ocean]

I want them to rush out an ayaneo pocket rival micro first please

[wraith orchid]

Yeah and now that the Retroid looks to be 3.5” it’s dead to me lolol

Give me a good 4” or 4.5” 4:3 screen and GC/PS2 compatibility for the love of all things retro handhelds.

[sharp bloom]

sir that's the rg556

[hearty star]

I think they meant like a much higher end one like with a full fat SnapDragon SoC

[quick ocean]

I meant their $200 gba

[sharp bloom]

ah missed the "micro" there

[hearty star]

they edited that in

[quick ocean]

I added it for clarity, I forgot ayaneo have an asinine naming scheme

[trail garnet]

Stick on top too!

[wraith orchid]

Honestly I want bottom stick if it’s 4:3

Just make the 405M with the Cube processor, plastic, and a higher res/slightly larger screen lol

Call it the 456

[barren plaza]

Well they changed resolution down one level and changed it to OLED probably for pricing but I certainly believe that that was at one time being looked at at least from the leak

[simple jackal]

!!! What?? Newest Retroid went back to peak?!

Hopefully not two top sticks 😭

I saw the Pocket Mini was nasty with the dual bottom sticks, would be nice to have an Asym offer from then considering their last was the rp2+

[solid walrus]

It's called the Odin lol

I know it's not retroid but basically same company;)

[leaden crest]

Anbernic has to make this now lol

[leaden crest]

Yee, Ayn and Retroid offices are right across from each other

[solid walrus]

Or are they?!

[simple jackal]

Odin is nearly twice the price and twice as thick

[solid walrus]

Sure.

[simple jackal]

+way less pocketable

the mini is dope but a lil more expensive too

[solid walrus]

I mean you get what you pay for with that.

[buoyant patrol]

I'm gonna take a guess there's a better chance of Anbernic releasing a 4:3 GC/PS2-capable handheld in response to Retroid's Pocket Mini. I reckon it'll probably be a little while after the RP Mini drops, just as they did when they came out with the RG-556 to go up against the RP4 Pro

[wide pasture]

its 3.7 inch oled

so its a bit better

should support ps2/gc well given the fact that its got a real fan

[fair leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/yagami-yagami-light-yagami-raito-death-note-l-lawliet-gif-19231120

[crisp sun]

Thank you Retroid Pocket Mini

[tight reef]

Ayo

Looks like we got a matte white

[leaden crest]

!

?

[rich fractal]

at least we can confirm from the image that this device will have an A button

[sweet jackal]

Anbernic really needs to get the screen that Retroid or AYA uses. It's just going to be very hard to justify getting a 480p LCD screen device at this point (in this price and power range)

[tight reef]

this is going to be 4inches

[leaden crest]

But the competition is bringing OLED

At 960p

[keen gale]

If they can get a better ( than what is currently used) 4 inch that will be better imo as a differentiating factor

[leaden crest]

Idk if that .3 inch would be worth the sacrifice

We'll see

[keen gale]

If same screen as retroid ， why get this over a retroid?

[sweet jackal]

Aya uses a 3.9 inch OLED don't they?

[tight reef]

on what?

the dmg?

[leaden crest]

On the Pocket DMG?

That's a 1:1 display

[tight reef]

I mean if the name suggests anything this is probably 4:3 4inches lol

[leaden crest]

This will be 4:3

[void hatch]

technically 7:8 or something weird

[tight reef]

it's 10:9 i think

[leaden crest]

If it was named Cube then maybe

[tight reef]

wait no

[keen gale]

The one on ayaneo dmg is about the same size as retroid's 3.7" for 4:3 content

[tight reef]

its like 31:27

lmao

[leaden crest]

21:20

[sweet jackal]

I get that, but I'm not worrying much about 10:9 when it has such a large resolution and contrast advantage. I'd take that any day of the week over the same 480p LCD that they been used for many many devices now.

[tight reef]

we'll get the screen just not from anbernic lol

[void hatch]

yeah if that screen was on the rg cube it would've been amazing

or even the rp mini

[sweet jackal]

I guess seeing the Retroid announcement made me see Anbernic as complacent. I don't think it's fair to compare their products to AYANEO but it definitely is fair to compare to Retroid

[quick fiber]

Lmaooo told you

[ripe oyster]

If there's one thing Anbernic is exceptional at, it's responding to competition

[keen gale]

Think they were just holding it back, maybe got caught by surprise by retroid 's reveal.

Won't be surprised if this shipped out first before the pocket mini.

[iron oriole]

You know, I imagine this is a 406v with how square it looks

And how inset that thumb stick is to the left

[oak nimbus]

Well we also know it‘s plastic

Unless Max created transparent metal for this 😄

[unborn sierra]

If that's a V that would be megatrolling

[iron oriole]

I mean theoretically it could be a 406 horizontal, but that left stick is so inset, it would be pretty wide

[unborn sierra]

Damn you max

I wanted the battle of my missing niche

Not Mini vs V

[iron oriole]

That right side looks like a mini wing though so it could be a wider 406 h, idk lol

[buoyant patrol]

Ez

UNISOC T820

[quick fiber]

Left stick up what does this mean

[buoyant patrol]

Xbox style analog layout I think

[quick fiber]

Oh

[ember vortex]

So when they jaave the packaging ready already it should release soon, right? Right?!

[molten trail]

Looking very ergo 🤤

If the outline is to be believed

[queen igloo]

All I want is the exact same form factor as a 406M but in plastic

[unborn sierra]

well with GC/PS2 it needs stacked triggers at minimu for changes

[molten trail]

Its looking like a 556 mini

And rumours suggest that too

[hallow portal]

Wonder if they fit front firing speakers for once, seems to have enough room.

[sharp bloom]

ugh

I just want pocketable GC/PS2

how hard can that be

[neon oar]

I feel like part of it is at times they know once a super pocket friendly device that can handle everything is released then it's kind of over. Most won't need to buy another device.

Whereas if they inch closer over time they can sell different devices

Imagine the RG405M similar design with the Odin 2 specs. You have the Odin 2 for everyone that wants a bigger screen to put a device in a bag, then the new device for smaller pocket use. That's arguably all people will need outside of various form factors like a clamshell or dual screen or something.

The Odin 2 mini was close but still too big I think to hit that pocket device form use case. It's a weird in between.

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-tin-foil-hat-gif-14008107

Better get the tinfoil hat off now

[solid walrus]

I wonder how many people actually pocket their devices.

[sharp bloom]

I had this exact argument yesterday on the Retroid mini channel 😄

when I think pocketable I don't necessarily think "I will carry this in my pocket at all times", it's more about the general idea of a device that is super lightweight and slim, enough that you can toss it anywhere easily

[solid walrus]

You also have to remember they aren't normally if ever custom ordering parts. So whatever exists or they can source is what they can use.

I'm sure aya neo is less like that lol

Most people also seem to want the newest and best even if they don't need it. That seems to go for anything. Look at at least in America all the $100k trucks when they don't even use it as a truck...

[wraith orchid]

With a fan, probably pretty difficult. The Cube might be the smallest in that performance band we will see

[sullen zealot]

Omg i thought this handheld project was dead

[plain igloo]

Me, but only with stuff that’s relatively flat and cheap.

MM+, rgb10max3pro, RGB30, 35xxSP, 28xx, v90, 353vs have all spent an entire day at least in my pants pocket

I would be interested in a 406 but only if it’s pocketable, if it’s not I doubt it’ll be better than the retroid mini tbh

406h I should say. A 406v sounds very appealing.

[sharp bloom]

this looks like it will have ergo grips like the Retroid mini

[plain igloo]

Unless they’re dumb enough to do stick top 406v - that would be very silly

[ember vortex]

Im happy that the top manufacturers are finally able to do good ergonomics

[sharp bloom]

I wonder if Anbernic sits on done devices and just kind of waits until another company releases something similar to ride the wave

[ember vortex]

Free marketing, maybe thats why their devices become significally cheaper

They dont have to pay Marketing dpt. xD

just kidding of course

[sharp bloom]

unfortunately this means bigger, less pocketable devices which for some (me) it's a deal breaker

[ember vortex]

they noticed probably they have much bigger profit with cheaper devices because more people are buying those

[ember vortex]

I can understand and to be honest when it comes to the form factor - RG405M was super comfy even though it was super pocketable

same with rg40xxh but this one is a little bit less pocketable because of the shoulder buttons

[oak nimbus]

Well that's not wrong

If 406 comes out before RPM, you won't be able to make an RPM review without mentioning 406

[ember vortex]

Even if it comes later, aside of reviews it will have a lot comparison video on YT

Anbernic is very smart this year, they release usually cheaper devices than the competition

and often with the better build quality

(I would say Retroid is better though, but is much more expensive)

[unborn sierra]

especially in EU

[ember vortex]

Like come on I can but right now RG Cube on Aliexpress for 130 bucks including european taxes and shipping

its better than 3gb version of RP2s

[queen igloo]

I've pocketed my RG35XXH, DSi a lot

[unborn sierra]

got a link for that one?

[ember vortex]

tbh I pocketed even RG40XXH this week 😄

its basically same size as modern phone in a case

[ember vortex]

Not sure if I can post it here I will pm you

[sullen zealot]

I pocket my steamdeck

[unborn sierra]

i bag my steamdeck , with the help of killswitch case

[ember vortex]

its good to be a fan of rap music I guess

[sonic raptor]

More of a 90s thing than a rap music thing

[sullen zealot]

https://youtu.be/icRrLZ7KUzQ?si=Fe4f8oJOivjmtRCE

Who remembers this dumb commercial?

It always comes to my mind when debating if something is pocketable

[ember vortex]

good for us boomers

[ember vortex]

yeah, I remember it, but I have to say that Vaio P design was awesome, it a shame that its so underpowered (and it was even back in the day)

I wouldnt mind a new version with ARM proc.

Sony had a lot of great ideas back in the day, with Xperia Play, PSP GO and VAIO P, unfortunately the hardware wasn't there yet

[shrewd pendant]

Yes ,

Have zero interest in this personally. Looks great and all but makes no sense having this much power and only one stick + touchpad .
Supposedly the screen is custom made

[tight reef]

These are cool again!!

[keen gale]

Big doubt for custom made, it's the lg wing screen that cost around 200-250 rmb.

Maybe they ask to tweak to some predefined settings...

[knotty relic]

rip top stick

[knotty relic]

||RG406XX||

[oak nimbus]

The internet was so innocent that just seeing a woman’s ass would make you forget the netbook is actually falling out of that pocket

[oak nimbus]

Yeah, I really want Anbernic to offer something major Retroid won’t, but I think it will just come down to price

And, well, I don’t buy a lot handhelds, so not that sensitive to the price difference

[bright crane]

Top stick, hell yeah. All people with baby-hands can seethe.

[hallow portal]

Burn the witch!

[shrewd pendant]

That’s what the CEO Arthur stated , wether that’s true or not is a entirely different story

Plus isn’t the secondary screen smaller on the Wing

Doesn’t matter anyway, not buying the DMG

[bright crane]

the thing is the Cube, rg556, and 406 are all stick-priority devices. if you want dpad priority, go get an rp4 or rp-mini.

[shrewd pendant]

I just want to see what Retroid has planned for future the RP5 first before committing and final RG 406 specs

Mini does a lot right

[bright crane]

it's going to be the same performance plateau with slightly different ergo.

[shrewd pendant]

Sure but we haven’t seen the final product yet to be 100% sure

[unborn sierra]

persomally dont care either way

my descition between 406 and RPMini will be mostly about other details

and based on first batch reports 😄

[tight reef]

Someone shared this in the morning

[hushed edge]

Oh sick

[ember vortex]

960p Amoled vs 800p IPS

I hope anbernic will be cheapet

800p but 4 inch

[tight reef]

There’s an 800p 4:3 screen?

[royal cloud]

800*600?

[last goblet]

Get it, Get it. Or don't. Back to breaking hearts

[somber sequoia]

Dang that was fast

[wary kestrel]

At this point I’m tempted to get some other discord peeps together and make a show of making a flip successor just to get Anbernic to release one

If it takes a major gaslighting campaign to get what I want then I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do

[last goblet]

Just make a fake website with very good photo shop

[wary kestrel]

If you need me I’ll be combing through YouTube videos with a squarespace sponsorship to get a deal on a website…

[queen niche]

If the 406, isn’t high-res or OLED, it has already “lost” in my books.

[last goblet]

Cool story bro

[queen niche]

Tis an opinion, not a story? anyway was hopeful for this. Now swaying away. But we’ll just wait and see.

[last goblet]

Nice

[hushed edge]

The last leaked msg from whoever works for them said the display was hi res, bit vague but yea

[somber sequoia]

yeah NGL, dropping the 406 in response to the RP mini is just plain petty. no way this thing will top the RP mini

[queen niche]

This pettiness is good for us consumers

Competition for our dollarydoos

[last goblet]

tiny screen in big shell. trumiUI smart is that you

[queen niche]

Haven’t been this keen for new devices in a while

[somber sequoia]

I mean yeah competition is good, but what happens when the "competition" is just a kneejerk reaction thrown together for the sake of competition

like the cube

[last goblet]

I don't think that is what is happing at all. These are that easy to just pump out.

[tight reef]

Aren’t *

Safe to assume that these take at least months to be supplied/produced/distributed

[queen niche]

I mean it’s down to the company if they wanna rush or take their time TBH. Ultimately we as consumers decide if it’s a product that’s good enough for us, regardless.

[tight reef]

It is pretty free marketing for anbernic tbh lol. Not really negative press for them cus people will still buy

[hushed edge]

Yeah they've def been processing this 406 for a while this isn't a reactionary thing

[leaden crest]

It just seems like it on the surface lol

But I'm hyped for both

More competition in this space is appreciated

[hushed edge]

Daddy Anby happens to be the company with the highest income of any of these companies so they likely have the facilities and staff to work on many devices simultaneously

[queen niche]

I think Anbernic are just pushing the 406 up their release timeline, rather than still R&D-ing at this point.

They can’t do their monthly release the way they want since a direct competitor to their product is incoming.

[tight reef]

I mean if they’re still r and d’ing lol

They could just be holding onto it

[queen niche]

All about timing these days with these product launches. That’s why Samsung and Google do their new phone announcements before iPhones nowadays.

[somber sequoia]

i feel like the 406 was a dead project till the RPM announcement which they decided to grab an old box off the shelf to a "leak"

[hushed edge]

This ain't Miyoo tho

[tight reef]

I dunno, this is nothing new. And we can just let the product and our monies speak for itself

[queen niche]

I think it was still happening but they had a release timeline for it after all these H700 devices.. But now they gotta change it all up

[last goblet]

I like that people are like. The 40xxV is because of the AYAneo DMG. I am like anbernic already made the 351v

There are only so many form factors you can make a handheld in and most look the same.

[sharp bloom]

I think at this point it's more or less a given that the screen will be better than the 405m but worse than the RP mini

[queen niche]

Maybe. If the 406 isn’t OLED I personally have lost interest in it.

[sharp bloom]

very unlikely to be

[wraith orchid]

Anyone else hope there is a 406V that is like a 40XXV but more powerful?

[hushed edge]

I'm hoping (coping) that it's not a V at all

[last goblet]

I hope that every handheld gets a V

[lavish cedar]

Agreed. In a world with the Mini and the DMG if they can't match that it's dead to me.

[last goblet]

Then why are you here?

[queen niche]

Because we're all still waiting for what the 406 will have to offer, obviously

[last goblet]

We don’t even know what the Retroid mini has to offer besides the screen and a render. But it’s the best correct?

[shrewd pendant]

Best what ?

[queen niche]

Unsure who said the Mini is the best. But I'm pretty sure people like myself and Silvard are just expressing that if the 406 isn't OLED, it'll lose our interest.

Does not mean other people will find the 406 more suited for them. This is about preference.

[clear spruce]

Ye

I just want a better Rg 556

[shrewd pendant]

RG556 Is great if it didn't have crappy sticks

[clear spruce]

Ye

[last goblet]

New sticks and gamma fix and the 556 made me forget about the rp4p

[clear spruce]

Would be interesting to see a vertical of a 556

A vertical Oled would be interesting

[shrewd pendant]

What you swap out tor ?

[last goblet]

Retroid rp3+ hall sticks. Not the ones on the 4/2s

[shrewd pendant]

Pretty straightforward to install? Might look into it

[last goblet]

I think there are a couple videos out for it. I take all my handhelds apart. So it was easy for me. If you never take one apart. Might want to take your time. Ice cube tray is great for keeping track of what screws go where.

[feral knot]

Most people who were in the console market at the time did exactly that.

[bright crane]

rg406 does 6th gen. rp mini also does 6th gen. they both have different QoL and layout features, but both are stuck in the android plateau/trench, so there's not much to fight about

[ember vortex]

Whoops I meant 960x720

[unborn sierra]

Tbh I need way more info than just render and screen details to decide between the two

[queen niche]

Indeed. For me the screen is one of my top deciding factor since I already have enough devices with IPS screens that I’ve lost interest of my device that uses them.

[unborn sierra]

yepfor me oled ... is like nice to have but not requirement (i have bit of a PTSD from cheap oleds)

[royal cloud]

You experienced a threatening life-or-death situation due to a cheap OLED screen?

[unborn sierra]

just trypophobia vs black sports

[cedar quarry]

Rg556 cube looking ahh console 💀

[leaden crest]

What the fuck is this

[trail garnet]

ikrr xDD

[void hatch]

wait wait wait, this gets a 960x720 screen? The perfect resolution? damn!

if this is also oled I would be really torn between this (likely smaller bezels, great psp scaling) and the retroid mini (superior dpad up configuration, concave thumbsticks, slightly better dc/ps2/gc scaling)

but if its cheap enough (i.e. cpu not targeting ps2/gc) i'll add it to my collection regardless

[trail garnet]

im only interested if it's stick on top xD

[wary kestrel]

Honestly a theoretical 406 with a t870 and same form factor as the 405 probably gets my purchase over the rp mini regardless of stick placement just because of a more compact form factor. The main deal breaker between the two is probably going to be screen resolution though.

[plain igloo]

If they do a 406v that hybridizes the old 405v design with the gorgeous 40xxV design I’ll probably bite

[hallow portal]

Meaning an extra stick and the butt?

[plain igloo]

Basically yeah - the DualShock layout, grips, and big battery from the 405v, mixed with the gorgeous colours, better controls, and somewhat sleeker shapes of the 40xxV

[hallow portal]

Do the grips somewhat sharp edges feel as uncomfortable as they look?

[clear spruce]

I hope 406 is a vertical

[simple jackal]

Is there any like T720 chip or anything that's a cheaper step down from the T820 that they could use for a GC/PS2 affordable handheld?

Cheapest chip I can think of them using that fulfills that just about is the G99 atm

What about the T760/770

[plain igloo]

on the 40xxV or 405v? I have only used a 405v and it's incredibly comfortable

[hallow portal]

405v.

[warped cosmos]

The legend himself 😛

[rich coral]

This goes hard

[warped cosmos]

Just bad photoshop

Btw check this news: Customs cracked down on the online sale of infringing games and seized 8 sets of game console circumvention devices, 640 sets of infringing game console sets, 214 memory cards containing infringing game files and a batch of computer equipment from the 14th to the 22nd of this month, with a total value of 1.02 million yuan. Cai Junwei, senior investigation officer of the Copyright and Trademark Investigation Division of Customs, said that officers conducted online inspections and analysis earlier and found that sellers were selling suspected infringing game console sets and circumvention devices on online social platforms and online marketplaces. With the assistance of the copyright holders, Customs officers disguised themselves as customers to conduct online trial purchases and searched a commercial unit in Kwun Tong and a residential unit in Tsuen Wan to seize the batch of evidence.
Customs arranged for computer forensic personnel to arrive at the scene. Through on-site computer evidence search, they seized more than 1,000 suspected infringing game files from two computers and external storage media used to process suspected infringing game files. Two men (aged 28 and 41) were arrested during the operation. One of the men has been charged for "violating the conditions of stay" while the other man was released on bail pending investigation. The case is still under investigation and further arrests cannot be ruled out.

The real dude 😉

[hallow portal]

I like to think they opened the RGB20SXs and applied the stickers just for these photos.

[clear spruce]

man this is why companies need to stop putting pirated sd cards

pretty much asking to get arrested for putting stolen games

[warped cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-right-breaking-bad-gif-14029087

Here's the OG article: https://www.hk01.com/突發/1050619/海關放蛇買千元燒錄卡載30隻遊戲-拘2男賣遊戲規避器及侵權套裝

Interesting after all these years 😛

[hallow portal]

Some spiteful sticker placement on those.

[wary kestrel]

So someone did seize a bunch of emulators for having pirated games?

Honestly about time something like this happened, though my money was on American or European authorities being the ones to do it with a shipment coming into their country.

[clear spruce]

Seeing GKD mini makes me depressed

it's such a beautiful looking console held back by crappy it's Firmware, if only it was android

[fair leaf]

if my 556 got seized by customs i would be so depressed 😭

[hallow portal]

Could be worse. Could be Android and still be terrible, like my X28.

[clear spruce]

lol

[wary kestrel]

I hope this makes Anbernic, Powkiddy, GKD, MagixX and anyone else you could think of to reexamine their policy of shipping devices with roms.

[plain igloo]

Unfortunately I think this market would contract pretty heavily overnight if they didn’t ship with roms

Nobody on this discord would care really but the tiktok normies want something that works out of the box

[hallow portal]

I wonder about that, the one time I kept one of those generic SD cards around it started to fail within a month.

[clear spruce]

agreed, seems like retroid would be fine since they don't sell roms

[clear spruce]

these days anerbnic seems to put good SD cards atleast with the blue looking ones

[plain igloo]

Ayn as well

[clear spruce]

oh yeah Ayn

Aya neoo too!

[plain igloo]

Tbh as much as I like retro handhelds with the advent of x86 handhelds it isn’t like we would be left with nothing if the emulator handheld industry collapsed

[clear spruce]

I'd be sad since x86 are awful in terms of battery life

[quick ocean]

Not to mention, most of us will already have plenty of options for lower end console systems already.

[plain igloo]

Not anymore tbh. Ally X and STOLED will both get you about the same battery life as an android handheld for fifth/sixth gen

[wary kestrel]

Honestly same here. I’ve got a steamdeck and onexplayer for pc games and higher end emulation, and while I do want a smaller handheld for on the go that niche is already filled by a bunch of older handhelds.

[clear spruce]

Ohhh that's great

though to be honest being able to play yoshis island for 25 hours sounds appealing on android

[plain igloo]

Yeah, power saver + gammaOS + 405v = absurd battery life

[clear spruce]

wait really? dang need to check it out since gammaOS is also available on the rg505

[plain igloo]

Yeah the 405v is just the biggest battery of the t618 devices

[wary kestrel]

I’ve got a miyoo mini plus, rg280m, and v90 so not even the newer stuff and they play anything I would want. With the exception of poor n64, Dreamcast and psp performance it’s not like these new Linux consoles are really offering all that much new.

[plain igloo]

You’ll get over 24 hours playing gameboy colour anyway, not sure for yoshi’s island

[clear spruce]

RG405V

battery 5500 mAh

RG405M

4500 mAH

Dang that's a big upgrade

[iron oriole]

Tbf I expect china to just not give a fuck at the end of the day lmao

I wouldn't doubt theres another reason for this or just fluff

[fringe monolith]

The majority of the products are Anbernic. Did they hit Anbernic's main warehouse?

Oh I see.. This was HK with different rules, not actual China where they don't care. So it was a HK reseller.

[clear spruce]

Ohhh

[iron oriole]

So yeah nothing will change lol. Maybe just hk resellers taking out the cards

[quick ocean]

Might be a case of them pushing anbernic to ship without roms on sd1 in the future, they could still sell rom sd2's on their own site then.

[warped cosmos]

Don't worry about that 😉 You've haven't bought like 100 of them 🙂

[bright crane]

nope, because these devices are already made

[wary kestrel]

Works just fine

[bright crane]

welp. looks like nintendo, sony, and sega finally paid off the locals. end of emulation handhelds happening /s

[bright crane]

"Some of the game sets were connected to default websites to facilitate users to download more infringing game files. Some of the seized infringing game console sets were modified old portable game consoles, with criminals installing third-party operating systems on them, said Tsai Jun-wei and preloaded a large number of infringing games, remodeled and then released for profiit"

So they're going after psp, vita, and 3ds modders too.

[somber sequoia]

Okay, so first of all what it is “circumvention device”

[bright crane]

Circumvent means to go around something.
What does an emulation handheld go around to get it into legal trouble? Answer that and you get a pat on the back.

[clear spruce]

they put roms on it

[bright crane]

The definition is different now. Like, if there is even an instruction on where to get roms, they will confiscate the device

[fair leaf]

use ask jeeves

the real answer to all of your problems

[clear spruce]

Ohh

[sonic copper]

those illegal PS Vitas

Anyone worried about this should just order from mainline China so that it doesn't have to go through HK.

[somber sequoia]

Those are PSPs

[leaden crest]

There's also Vitas

[buoyant patrol]

Too bad I order handhelds from the mainland rahhh

[daring moon]

Sorry, but I'm too lazy to read hundreds of messages. Are there quite reliable rumors about a RG406 ? In that case, what to expect about the screen ?

[tight reef]

there is zero info on the 406

other than that it exists lol

[unborn sierra]

And Max has been throwing around like 5 resolutio s over the months so who knows

[clear spruce]

not suprising those are illegal since people often sell them with roms

[bright crane]

quality troll.

[tight reef]

?

[bright crane]

it was an exquisite jest

[tight reef]

repeating the same thing in a different way

the 406 exists, you don't think? not trolling

[bright crane]

it's just a funny response to someone saying they're too lazy to read hundreds of messages is all.

[tight reef]

well yeah I wouldn't either lmao

don't have all day to scroll through discord messages

[ember vortex]

we know its 4 inch and T820 and most likely it uses 720p 4:3 screen (according to Max Zhou) and most likely horizontal comes first (unless they changed something with their plans)

It could happen as its anbernic and the horizontal part is 2 week old now xD

[bright crane]

we know it already has a box and is ready to ship

[ember vortex]

And actually Max said 720p 4:3 for at least a few months now, but you never know.

[hallow portal]

Stick on top too. Doubt it's ready to ship.

[ember vortex]

so they've been teasing it including the resolution - 960x720p since (at least) April, maybe its indeed ready to ship, actually Im really suprised that it took them so long

[daring moon]

Thanks for the info. Regarding screen size and resolution, it is tempting to compare with the upcoming Retroid Pocket Mini (1280x960, 3.7"). I've made simulations with https://shauninman.com/utils/screens and it appears that both screens permit to cover almost all the screen for major systems with integer scaling. I focus on integer scaling while 720p means 3x for most retro systems even is 3x is probably much worse for CRT shaders than Retroid's 4x.

So for "classic" CRT systems, there is a strong advantage in size in favor to Anbernic, while 4x is better for shaders that will respect pixel art much more than sharp squares that were never intended by pixel artists.

Same with classic handhelds even if in that case, resolution doesn't matter as much as in the CRT case (shaders are often much simpler grids).

When it comes to more recent consoles such as GC, DC or PS2, you top at a 1.5x on the Anbernic, which is a no-go for those who want CRT shaders and even simple scanlines. Hence, the Retroid is way better for those who prefer 1x with postprocessing rather than clinical 1.5x upscaled 3D. There is a strong choice here, no tradeoffs.

[void hatch]

PSP scaling is also a major difference between the screens.

[ember vortex]

Also retroid will most likely have a better performance

[daring moon]

For NDS, you probably won't like huge crops, so the size advantage is massive in favor to Retroid.

[void hatch]

Yeah. Gc and PS2 likely out of the question for this. DC is a "cool I'll take it" deal

[ember vortex]

3.7 4:3 might be too small for psp though

4 inch is the bare minimum for me

as its almost the smae size as psp go

[ember vortex]

now I think you can always run 2x and downsample from it

[daring moon]

I'm only looking at devices not that far from 4:3. If I'd like PSP, I'd chose a 16:9 emulation console in a first place. But here you are. Way better for Anbernic's.

[ember vortex]

not sure if t820 is strong enough though

[fair leaf]

its enough for gc but not ps2

[daring moon]

That was bot my point. What I'm thinking about is source-device 1:1 emulation, and then post processing taking advantage of the extra resolution. For PSP I agree, grid shaders or such don't make much sense. But I used to play GC, PS2 and DC on CRT and to me, that's the way these consoles should be rendered. And with that in mind, 1.5x isn't good at all. But I get that many like the clinical resolution enhancements better than dirty CRT renderings.

[daring moon]

Everybody has his own preferences and target different consoles. I typically don't care even the least about PSP or any home 16:9 console but I want 8-32 bits beeing properly emulated.

At a first glance, my conclusion would be (regardless of the SoC) : if you want CRT/grid shaders to get the proper beauty of pixel artists' work, then the Retroid is the way to go. But if you don't care about CRT/grids and know how modern interpolation shaders (bandlimit and such) are so good that integer scaling is unimportant in that case, then the Anbernic will probably be much better (as far as the screen size and resolution is concerned).

[oak nimbus]

I'm surprised you guys haven't completely dissected that box picture over the weekend

[hushed edge]

Kinda already did

[oak nimbus]

Oh, so what's the running theory, a vertical?

[tight reef]

It was talked about like 10 min that pic surfaced haha

Think it’s gonna be a horizontal unless there’s only two colors

Which is possible

[oak nimbus]

Well, I mean, the A button is visible, suggesting orientation, and there's a large chin under it (scribbled part)

So my money is on a vertical

[tight reef]

Good eye

[sharp bloom]

horizontal with ergo grips

[plain igloo]

If that’s what we get I’m convinced max zhou has no idea why anyone wanted the 406

Anyone who didn’t care about pocket-ability already bought a 556

[queen igloo]

If 406 is not pocketable it's a pointless device

All we need is a more powerful plastic 405M nothing more, nothing less, it can even be the same 480p screen for all I care

[plain igloo]

For me I want a 406v but yeah for the 406h you’re right

[worn juniper]

Honestly the 40XXh is the perfect form-factor for me. Stick a better screen and more powerful chip in that (with better cooling) and I'm down.
The 480 resolution is the only thing holding it back for me.

[molten trail]

Its this. Rumor was its basically 556 but mini

[ember vortex]

I think its closer to Cube but 4:3 and with regular dpad, but lets see. 556 grips on it would be terrible for portability

[molten trail]

Guess we will find out soon 😅

[daring moon]

Isn't this a stick ? With the A button relative placement, it suggests a V to me.

[ember vortex]

indeed, you are right, looks like its V or maybe they will suprise all of us and it will be rg406sp

now when I think about it on the box we do have a circle around the action buttons like on xxSP

bvut its also on 40xxV box

so yeah, no horizonta device for now it seems 😦

[oak nimbus]

Tbf, the sticks were inline with the face buttons on 406, but not 556, so it could be very wide

But the size of the chin, and the space under the stick also suggests a vertical IMO

[sterile drum]

It was confirmed by Maxzhou himself that the box was actually 406V and is set to be released in September.

[oak nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-thats-all-folks-thats-it-gif-14824246

[leaden crest]

But what about the horizontal device

[unborn sierra]

Nooooo

But we'll I won't be buying engame 4:3 before winter anyway

[ember vortex]

At least we know now that RG406V will have sticks, I hope it wont be as ugly as RG405V 😛

[unborn sierra]

surprised they would do 406v right after 40xxV

i guess thy are waiting for RPM to have more info with the H

[worn juniper]

Likely it's going to be aimed at a way different price point.

[unborn sierra]

yup

so my guess right now is
August - 40xxV
September - 406V
October - CubeXX
November - 406H

maybe with someweirdness inbetween and 406H by december (Arc Pro pls)

[simple jackal]

Doa, why would they change it up from the layout of the 405 rip

[ember vortex]

what do you mean? 405m also had stick on top

[simple jackal]

Oh I read what he said as "sticks" on top

My bad

[ember vortex]

Ah yeah, that would be really bad 🙂

[tepid idol]

So this is stick on top but vertical? 🤨

[quick ocean]

That's the weirdest part about this, a 406H would make far more sense as their next device and then slot in the V for xmas

[quick ocean]

different pricepoint, but probably very similar audience, if I get a V this month then I'm waiting on sales for a 406V

[quick ocean]

Have you seen the fan mockups for an arc update, it just doesn't look quite right with sticks and a higher spec arc would have to include them to widen the audience since the niche that wanted higher specs and still no sticks wouldn't be big enough to make it worthwhile

[unborn sierra]

isnt 1 stick enough though for DC and N64?

[ember vortex]

but sticks make a lot of sense (at least one) because of Dreamcast

[unborn sierra]

and not havent seen mockups

[ember vortex]

And also n64 would be good with 6 buttons

but also a stick

[quick ocean]

A higher end device than 3566 would be expected to also do ps2/gc to ensure a wide enough audience, you are not selling enough of the device just for those wanting better n64/dc/saturn as that'd be a subset of arc buyers

[ember vortex]

RG Arc imho didnt make any sense with its design, sure its cool just for Mega Drive and some Arcade fighters, but maybe it would be better with stronger cpu for Saturn and stick for Dreamcast/other arcade games ?

But do you really want to have separate handheld for each system to emulate?

IMHO Arc the biggest wasted opportunity so far from Anbernic

[quick ocean]

it was a comfortable device mostly using components they were phasing out like the 405's display and the 3566, so probably made sense in that respect, while letting them try out ideas like sega dpad and 6 buttons that could be applied to subsequent devices

fitting that stuff into a md pad simply added extra nostalgia factor to try and boost sales further

[ember vortex]

but imagine with sicks it would definetly be a ultimate RK3566 device, RG353P but better

[daring moon]

...or they know that they sell less V than H and prefer to launch the H for Xmas. I the meantime, enthousisat will buy the V anyway and others, knowning that an H is coming, would wait over an eventual Retroid or even the Ayaneo. That would have make sense. The issue is the Retroid looks damn good, so far, and it will be difficult to compete.

[quick ocean]

If that was their plan then they should have reordered the XX releases so they didn't do two of same form factor in a row

[ember vortex]

and the sad thing is - there's plenty of space for sticks on it

[unborn sierra]

i kindaalready do 😛

but yeah i definitely want 6 button device capable of full sega+N64+arcade .... and Arc is almost there, but still far away ... so i will probably grab anything that gives it to me in the future

[quick ocean]

the XX releases exist to fill the gaps between the higher end ones, delivering volume and avoiding the need to spend on advertising

They could have probably pushed the buttons and dpad higher to make room for sticks on either side of the display at the bottom, but you'd probably need to drop some of the md design touches and if the sticks didn't add more overall sales to offset the loss of any due to less nostalgia factor plus the extra cost of the sticks then it wouldn't make particular sense, especially when they already had 353 devices with sticks too.

[hallow portal]

Probably not, guy was likely to be theorizing.
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[rich fractal]

man if this thing turns out to be practically identical to a 405V but with a T820 instead then I might feel some remorse

[hallow portal]

Felt that was a given, just thought it'd be months away rather than the very next on the line.

[rich fractal]

I'm more curious if they're going to reuse the existing shell or come up with a new one, because I'm one of the weirdos that likes how swole the 405V is and I'm curious if they're going to slim it down, especially in light of how the 40XX V turned out

though in that case they were almost deliberately copying Ayaneo's homework with the design, and I'm not sure who they'd pull from this time

[hallow portal]

I'm probably the only person in the world who'd be swayed by a bigger 353V.

[warped cosmos]

According to the old leak it's going to look like the 405V 1:1, but just with the T820. Just wait and see 🙈

[quick ocean]

40XX V with a second stick and downfiring speakers seems more likely than reusing the 405V tbh

[lost sentinel]

if they reuse the 405v shell, would that be so bad?

from what I hear it's about as comfortable as a vertical handheld could possibly be

[tight reef]

If they do a black 405v shell I’m down

[rich fractal]

yes, because I just got a 405V and anbernic isn't considering my feelings

[lost sentinel]

if there's any consolation, at least you wont be alone 😆 I know someone else who just picked up a 405v a few weeks ago

[quick ocean]

While it was fine, it got some criticisms for being such a chonker

If they did reuse it, I'd hope they used bigger face buttons too, those looked too small on that big control area

[tight reef]

They were fine

Just make shoulders a bit harder to press

[lost sentinel]

if a handheld was gonna be big anyway, might as well make it chonky and comfy

[quick ocean]

they were fine in size, but they just looked too small, it was mostly just a perception thing

[lost sentinel]

but I'm a steam deck owner so that's where my opinion comes from lol

[tight reef]

I have a 405v they are fine lol

[unborn sierra]

Embrace the woood

[rich coral]

No more wood

[wraith orchid]

This would be my dream. I was about to order the 40XXV until I thought of this possibility.

I hope they don’t make too many major design changes from the 40XXV. I’d rather have it run warm then have it look/feel like the 405V

[quick fiber]

Damn no one liked the wood dark dark times

[unborn sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/not-like-this-the-matrix-panic-neo-angry-gif-5216157

[rich coral]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-evil-headnod-jack-nicholson-gif-8019533

[plain igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/boi-hype-boy-hype-swag-dance-gif-12729580

(unless they put stick top on a vertical, which would be the darkest timeline)

[tight reef]

Yea we can close the thread in that case

[timber gazelle]

New colours might be fun, but can they cram a WiFi chip in there? Then it would be perfect

[ember vortex]

even more perfect would be rg28xxV with wifi chip:)

[sharp bloom]

wtf

[void hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-gas-deflated-lost-my-boner-tired-out-no-more-gas-gif-18039565

[brittle idol]

sooo, we doing rg406 now to fuck over the Retroid Mini or nah?

[feral knot]

Anbernic was afraid someone might be releasing another console. Doesn't even matter who it is ... No console can be released by anyone without Anbernic teasing or announcing a release of their own.

[sharp bloom]

I mean I'm glad Anbernic is finally doing something on the high end line but

a vertical

all we wanted was a more powerful rg405m man

perhaps they figured there's no way they can't compete with the Retroid mini so may as well try to own the powerful vertical niche instead

but if so it's a bit of a loss

[somber sequoia]

No fucking way

Do I get this for RP Mini

And September?

Like next month September?

Huge news if true

[plain igloo]

We’ll get a 406h eventually

Probably before the end of the year

The V was probably just ready sooner

[somber sequoia]

I’d be down with the same body as the 405V

I’d actually prefer that

Only downside is that would be the screen would (most likely) be the same

Which I would not like

[tight reef]

oh you sweet soul

[somber sequoia]

Nothing sweet about it honey

[tight reef]

the RUMOR

is 960x720

[somber sequoia]

Rad

[tight reef]

but

[somber sequoia]

Would

It’d have t820 right

Most likely

[tight reef]

Yeah because of the naming

I would really like diff colors

Black most notably

[somber sequoia]

Wood grain

[bright crane]

A vertical is fine too

Chinese market probably pushed for it

[plain igloo]

Wood grain or a nice solid colour like the 40xxV indigo blue

Same body as the 405v but with the 40xxV dpad/face buttons/shoulders would be peak

GammaOS, vertical, and big battery 406v vs OLED and retroid controls on the RPMini 🤔

[quick ocean]

Will be interesting to see how they differentiate it from the 40xxV, while screen and cpu are obvious areas, the 405v's battery was a big selling point for you wasn't it?

[ember vortex]

they could do Green one now (Green DMG was a beauty and it was my first Game Boy, actually it belonged to my older brother as I was really small kiddo ;D)

but this with green buttons would be even better

[brittle idol]

Soooo... since the AliExpress seller send me the wrong colored rg405v, they better release the rg406v now in the exact same shell, because that damn thing was comfy as fuck

[unborn sierra]

yup my chonky wood is super comfy

[brittle idol]

kinda sad, because the rg406v is pretty certain to release in a way sleeker color and this chonky boy was just perfect for the DMG one

[plain igloo]

yeah, a comfy vertical with absurdly long battery life made the 405v the perfect airplane trip handheld

I fly across canada and back about once a year since my family is all in NS and I live in BC

and I usually use budget carriers that often don't even give you a plug at your seat, let alone enough room to use a steam deck or ally X

so it's often 8-10 hours of travel between airplanes and an airport stop en route

[tight reef]

Anything a step up from the 405v will be a major win

Maybe 40xx v dpad, a lil bit more modernized color options, a better screen and chip

[plain igloo]

yeah, the 405v is already good, we know we're getting a t820 and supposedly 960x720 screen res, just hopefully it gets some design refinements and improved controls as well

[tight reef]

Hope they stick true to what makes the 405 good

[plain igloo]

the only way they could really mess it up for me is if they go stick top on a vertical

which would be a sin most unholy

[tight reef]

Yea that’s DOA

Lol

Wasted

[plain igloo]

at any rate I'll be shopping the 406v against the RP mini

so I know one of them is dpad top lol

[warped cosmos]

What about a GLOW IN DARK shell?

https://tenor.com/view/glow-mr-burns-the-simpsons-alien-nightmare-gif-4436471

[plain igloo]

honestly a glow in the dark fat gameboy would be funny enough that I would actually require it more than anything in my life

[trail garnet]

welp if it doesnt look like a 405m im out

[tight reef]

Well it’s vertical so

[plain igloo]

we'll get a 406h too

[hushed edge]

Russ's theory is that the Cube is the 406h

Which I hope is false

[hallow portal]

That makes no sense.

[tight reef]

It makes a little sense

We’ll know once they release the 406, if it says v or just 406 lol

[hallow portal]

Zhou referred to it as 406v.

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[unborn sierra]

existence of v in the name

implies the existense of one with different letter in the name down the line

[tight reef]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-v-gif-9063766

[random moon]

Didnt he also say stick on top

[plain igloo]

that would be so cursed on a vertical

[random moon]

I'm not really into the retroid, the screen size is practically the same as the useable on my cube. A 4inch 4:3 is enticing though

[plain igloo]

to be fair it's about halfway between a 4" 4:3 and the usable 4:3 area on your cube

since the cube's 4:3 area is approximately 3.5"

[random moon]

Eh I run 8:7 on a lot of stuff on the cube

And widescreen + stretched in dolphin utilizes the whole screen

GBA is the only thing that kind of sucks on it. And I don't even try psp

[tight reef]

4 in 720p is a dream

[plain igloo]

I wonder if they'll surprise us with it being oled

[tight reef]

That would be insane but I am okay with either or

[brittle idol]

I hadn't touched mine for long, because the ugly purple got taken in for return ASAP, but the ergo was great... pretty big bummer how much they fuck it up with other handhelds all the time, like just give me a flat slap with a little meat where I'm supposed to hold it instead of ergo bullshit that forces my hands into place

kinda hope they will re-use the shell pretty much 1:1 tbh, would be nice if we soon got a few snaps of more than the box so I can decide if I gotta have to look for another 405v or not

[plain igloo]

I am going to disown max zhou if they make a stick top vertical

[brittle idol]

yeah stick top 406v would be a no buy from me

kinda already my biggest gripe about the 405m

[plain igloo]

Just like I am going to disown retroid if the rp mini has a baby sized battery

[brittle idol]

which was the reason I even considered the 405v when it was cheap, but oh well... there goes my shiny new DMG colored fat gameboy

fucking purple

[quick fiber]

With active cooling deffo not baby sized battery

[plain igloo]

I might rebuy the 405v if I find a dmg or wood grain cheap and both the rp mini and 406v suck

[plain igloo]

It only weighs 215g despite the cooling so I fear the worst