if it were to run a Z1 Extreme or something similar, its cpu and storage would obviously make downporting far easier than porting a Ps5 game to Ps4
#Sony Playstation 5 portable (Vita 2)
solemn tulip
they could make use of Pssr now as well and run games at sub-1080p, the issues with Pssr would be far less noticable on say a 6'' 1080p display
i feel like theyd shoot themselves in the foot though and advertise 1080p 120hz
and then not be able to reach that without serious visual sacrifices
blissful sierra
then its just a portable ps5 with a limited audience of only people that want to play ps5 games on a handheld
and when the ps6 comes out there's no more ps5 games to port
tough timber
midnight breach
Impossible
haughty marten
Switch is around PS2/3 power, it's not impossible at all
In fact it's more than good enough, especially if they can get to PS4 power level
Be honest, PS5 isn't THAT much better than PS4 graphics wise
We really need to be done chasing the dragon that is graphical fidelity and focus on gameplay again
blissful sierra
you're kidding right? ps2?
i'm all for mainstream gaming taking a step back from graphical fidelity and focusing more on art design and gameplay but read the article, they're targeting a released in 4 or 5 years and targets the ps5 catalog
by then the ps6 will be already out and they'd come up with a handheld that at most plays the previous gen games and its supposed to compete against a switch 2 that has all the new nintendo releases
frigid sun
Bloomberg reporting on a big pile of nothing
Sony’s portable device is likely years away from launch and the company could still decide against bringing it to market, the people said
The idea builds on the PlayStation Portal
hah
zenith trail
by then the ps6 will be already out and they'd come up with a handheld that at m...
Not sure why many are against Sony making a new dedicated handheld that’s not the Portal .
I’ll take a portable PS5 thanks
lethal forge
Not sure why many are against Sony making a new dedicated handheld that’s not th...
Because I’d sooner believe they would make a portable PS4(or hell, maybe even portable PS3) with the ability to emulate PS2 and below than I would believe them making a portable PS5. That’s not even getting into how much they would likely charge for that new handheld given they valued the freaking PlayStation Portal at $200.
zenith trail
Because I’d sooner believe they would make a portable PS4(or hell, maybe even po...
I'd be OK with that too TBH , I just wouldn't mind seeing Sony give another dedicated handheld a try , it's nice to have options and if you don't like what you see just not buy it
lethal forge
I'd be OK with that too TBH , I just wouldn't mind seeing Sony give another dedi...
Oh I wouldn’t really mind it either, I just refuse to believe clickbait nonsense like “Sony’s making a handheld PS5!!! Switch-Killer?!?!”.
If they’re gonna make anything, it’s gonna be a handheld PS4 (not PS4 Pro) or below, and they’ll at most rerelease any PS5-only games that can run on it for that handheld specifically. You know, the classic Handheld-ports for console games that can legit run on that handheld with optimization.
Like, it’s the same thing with Switch-2 rumors saying it will “use DLSS and the stronger chip’s full capabilities to have better performance than the Xbox series S”.
Do I think that would be incredibly funny for even Nintendo to outdo what is effectively Microsoft’s main current gen console? Absolutely, I’d very likely die laughing.
Do I believe that’s what will happen, and not Nintendo underclocking the device again to increase battery life, DLSS at most being how they plan to ensure the device will get better framerate while having handheld at 1080p resolution, and docked at potentially 4k if the game devs want to do it (and even then, I don’t expect to Nintendo to really use it beyond maybe split screen, I just think it’s possible they would still make it an option for third party devs to use)? No, I do expect them to just stick with it being a legitimate upgrade to the Switch in performance, and nothing more.
toxic meteor
Those expecting a vita 2 I think are in for disappointment. I’m fully expecting it to be another big horizontal handheld with a 6-7 inch screen and middling battery life.
solemn tulip
I'm expecting basically an Ally-Station 5
I wonder would they make a handheld with the newer Ai 7 Pro 360
Still think the Z1 extreme would probably make the most sense though
blissful sierra
Not sure why many are against Sony making a new dedicated handheld that’s not th...
i'm not against it because its not something i'd be interested in the first place, i just doubt it'll ever exist
it would only make sense in a fantasy world where sony positions it as a cheaper version of a bigger ps6 like a hybrid series s which is what microsoft is supposedly doing
solemn tulip
Ngl I'd be really interested in it
The only reason I have a PS4 Pro with an SSD swap is for Ps exclusives and stuff, if a handheld fulfills that need I could get it for cheap enough by selling the 4 Pro
sharp atlas
> The idea builds on the PlayStation Portal
hah
It’s Bloomberg, so yeah not at all surprised, gotta fuel that hopium. Also, Sony isn’t going to suddenly break the laws of physics, so yeah, anyone believing PS5 level on a handheld any time soon is nuts - it’s a 200+w hardware unit and it’s hardly efficient, good luck squeezing that in when we’re barely seeing anything even a quarter of that TDP of that. Not to mention how terrible their thermal designs have been lately.
sharp atlas
Those expecting a vita 2 I think are in for disappointment. I’m fully expecting ...
If that, the other thing people keep ignoring is that Sony isn’t set up to do multi spec and there’s no lower bound to build off of like Xbox did with the Series S (their handheld “versions” are already built because of the target spec), so devs would have to do a lot of additional work. If this even comes to fruition, and knowing Sony the last decade, it’s not going to be anywhere near what people think (if they believe this report) and, if it comes out at all, I imagine we’ll see more asinine limitations like most of their products of late.
sharp atlas
Like, it’s the same thing with Switch-2 rumors saying it will “use DLSS and the ...
Why would you die laughing that tech that came out five years later is potentially better than new? It’s Nintendo so I expect a massively downclocked machine, but the weird Xbox hate is out of place imo
lethal forge
Why would you die laughing that tech that came out five years later is potential...
Oh I’d die laughing because this would technically be Nintendo’s current gen hardware since the Switch was released in 2017.
sharp atlas
Oh I’d die laughing because this would technically be Nintendo’s current gen har...
Oh my bad lol
Sorry been seeing a lot of the former so assumed it was on the same line, but yeah, I wish Nintendo would be a bit more aggressive on their hardware front especially after the runaway success that was the Switch
They made so much money, invested a decent amount in staff growth and could really throw some more in Nvidia’s direction
lethal forge
Sorry been seeing a lot of the former so assumed it was on the same line, but ye...
Oh it also was Xbox hate, but very specifically current Xbox Hate. I do not like the shitshow that Phil Spencer has been running.
sharp atlas
Oh it also was Xbox hate, but very specifically current Xbox Hate. I do not like...
Meh, I disagree; he’s been great and not great simultaneously, and whether people like it or not they foresaw a lot of trends before they started taking off, got shit for it, and then Sony gets praised for the same thing five years later. I wish reporting was actually factual because there’s a lot more to the story than what’s being presented.
Have a lot more to say and plenty of inside baseball but it often falls on deaf ears because people just want a bogeyman to hate and the media has done a bang up job of making Xbox that target, despite the massive amount of blunders and anti-consumer shit Sony and Nintendo do…
winter meteor
is this real..............?
lethal forge
is this real..............?
Results currently still unclear and require more testing before a hard yes or no can be confirmed.
solemn tulip
"more testing" 💀
sharp atlas
The idea that it will be a physics-defying portable PS5 certainly isn’t real, and as I said (and DF confirmed), Sony will have to have devs recompile their games for whatever midway point they’re actually targeting for (on top of the aforementioned challenges) - competitors already have a target and a profile devs have been building towards for years.
lethal forge
The idea that it will be a physics-defying portable PS5 certainly isn’t real, an...
Yup, that’s pretty much always been my expectation for the most likely scenario.
If it’s real, it’s likely gonna be a new handheld with “its own games (ha)” and more likely will do straight ports for light-weight PS4/PS5 games that would run on the handheld with minimal optimizations (at most needing translation for ARM if the device is ARM based), and then any more intense PS5-exclusives they want to put on the device would require the classic “Handheld Port” optimizations to run them on it.
solemn tulip
The idea that it will be a physics-defying portable PS5 certainly isn’t real, an...
I still think making a portable Ps4 and doing per game ports of Ps5 games to keep interest alive would be the best way to do it tbh
If random modders and shit can make this, Ps could easily do something better
sharp atlas
There’s a massive difference in meeting quality control metrics, longevity, etc. for a single device built by a modder and a large scale deployment like a corpo device.
All while ignoring the massive PS5-software-problem in that aside from the physics issue, devs would need to completely rework their games to run on a lower perf profile. It’s literally been said by me and other engineers, and now confirmed by DF (since that’s all some seem to listen to).
mellow meteor
And don't forget that Sony has finite resources -- devs working on porting their games to this handheld would be devs who aren't working on PS5 (or, eventually, PS6) games. They had trouble balancing that back in the PS3/4 days, when they hadn't gone all in on massive cinematic games. I can't imagine it'd be any easier now given how much the gaming landscape has changed over the last decade-plus -- especially because, aside from maybe Astro Bot, there's not a lot of indication Sony is interested in making weird niche games for a small subset of people.
mellow meteor
There’s a massive difference in meeting quality control metrics, longevity, etc....
And to this first point, the Vita was a flop because it only sold 10-15 million units. Whatever Sony put into this handheld, they're going to have very different metrics for success than some random person tinkering in their home workshop.
sharp atlas
Yeah, Sony is the least setup for a handheld hybrid console, period.
solemn tulip
I wasn't correlating that really, but moreso that with the R&D power and having the literal schematics, factories and everything to know about the PS4 in their back pocket, it should be a lot easier for them to die shrink and made a new PS4 thats far smaller and could fit a handheld, basically how they did with the Vita and made a handheld Ps2
Realistically the Z1 should be more than enough to give the same performance as a Ps4 with better load times and an exponentially better Cpu
midnight breach
Sony: instructions unclear, releasing the PlayStation TV 2.
It will be 75% as powerful as a base PS4, and for some reason will be unable to play Sonic Mania but will absolutely run GTA 5.
(maybe that's for the best)
flint acorn
well ill just pray its not like the portal where you will need a ps5 and actually has its standalone games
uncut charm
Sony: instructions unclear, releasing the PlayStation TV 2.
With how long it is taking any company to make a better TV box than the archaic Nvidia Shield, I would gladly take a PlayStation TV box
There are stronger Android boxes than the Shield but none of them have WideVine support, making them worthless as streaming devices. Then there's the apple TV but I read it is so locked down that it just randomly and intentionally deletes all of your files you try and store on it for seemingly no reason.
midnight breach
The PlayStation TV didn't let you stream anything either, so damn it we need to keep that promise with the 2.
haughty marten
haughty marten
sturdy sundial
steam deck does everything Linux though
haughty marten
so how do we think these new chips might affect a new playstation handheld?
midnight breach
The PlayStation Portal 2 will stream 12% more efficiently
dense totem
solemn tulip
All they have to do is make it run games as good or better than the PS4 Slim and it'll sell like crazy, I feel like they're gonna find a way to fuck it up though
sonic acorn
And a design according as the proper successor of the vita
Not like that thing of the PlayStation Portal, a tablet with a controller stick to each side
sonic acorn
And i'm interest of Sony what can do with the tech of nowdays compared when the vita was release
robust ravine
If it has a an AMD APU in it then it will be a full fat SD-like handheld
If it’s a snapdragon, I doubt it has multi platform support of all the games it could run.
sonic acorn
And add the double trigger in the device
midnight breach
The way things are going right now, I think getting anything reasonably sized and not a laptop gaming tablet is just not in the cards
fringe blaze
i don't think theyre aiming for a large device
fringe blaze
if they're putting out a device that's essentially a shitty, locked down version of a giant x86 brick, they will be selling 0 of it. I hope they're aware of this.
sturdy sundial
I could tolerate brick if brick is the size of a trimui brick