Lenovo ThinkSmart View

[humble karma]

Could it be caused by multiple devices with the same Mac address? I wonder

[dim stirrup]

I addressed that using the fix posted earlier (Editing WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini)

[humble karma]

Wasn't that the one reported by Deadman to not actually do anything?

[slate anvil]

The only QOL improvement I had during my stint using an A8 flash was bluetooth connections for controllers weren't lost to the ether if they fell asleep. Everything else from UI, responsiveness, compatibility, and performance was worse.

My use cases were only remote streaming and emulation though. I never tested music players or video playback.

[humble karma]

I might dig up and try the old build for my arcade setup

[lilac flint]

Editing the cfg to get a new Mac works on a11, the wlan_mac.bin is a symlink to nothing

[next mural]

7000

We have officially doubled the duo @carmine apex

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-arnold-im-back-gif-23975209

That WAS the most popular other" item in here

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-tea-sipping-gif-24277205

[jolly pivot]

I hope we get some nice progress before reaching 10K

[next mural]

The more ppl that get it then more will be possible

[humble karma]

There would be fewer posts if it were easier to set up and get working seamlessly 😆

[jolly pivot]

True that lol

[real trout]

Deadman is the only dev really making progress on it, and his A11 goapps rom is working, just needs some QoL improvements, so maybe not a high priority for him.

Do we have a comprehensive list of bugs?

Auto-brightness doesn't work
Recents button doesn't work
Tap to wake doesn't work
Wifi MAC isn't pulling from hardware
Wifi won't connect to WPA3
Scaling is too large by default
Potentially some issues with the proximity sensor
Anything I missed?

[humble karma]

I have issues with

• widevine and Flac playback
• Trouble maintaining a wifi connection

Others have reported

• Trouble getting bluetooth connections on wake

[humble karma]

Lots of progress on the linux build by the looks of it https://community.home-assistant.io/t/lenovo-thinksmart-view-rom-os-development/676324/88

[humble karma]

I tried to load the build with the instructions in the latest posts and it would not boot

Might be I need to do something in an earlier post

[fathom patrol]

sounds like there might be different screens? I have one running now and it's pretty solid. see if the USB device registers and you might be able to ssh in and send him your dmesg output: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/USB_Network

[dim stirrup]

Wow, just installed the pmOS build...really slick so far! Was running latest Deadman rom and rebooted into EDL mode and ran two commands listed in the forum post then powered off and unplugged USB-C cable (Just to be safe) and booted right up! It's a little counter-intuitive but on the login screen click the bottom left icon to bring up the fuill on-screen keyboard and then use pmos as the password...Still checking it out, so will update with results but digging it so far

[dim stirrup]

And if you want to use Firefox you gotta manually disable hardware acceleration (Which is a pain cause it's gltchy AF until you disable it, so have fun with that)

[fathom patrol]

since pmos only uses the userdata partition we can also remove system to free up some more space

[dim stirrup]

ohhhh really? glad to give that a shot, just not sure what the process is

[fathom patrol]

I generated a new rawprogram.xml etc for the last img, let me try that again with the latest

[dim stirrup]

will be happy to test/confirm whatever you end up with 😉

[fathom patrol]

flashing.. standby 🤞

900e, lol. need to add some of those small partitions back in

booting 🙌

/dev/mapper/userdata2
                          6.3G      1.6G      4.3G  27% /```

Ok try this with the images from pmos-lenovo-cd-18781y-testing-20240227.tar.xz, doing a full qfil flash

^ removes system, vendor, & logdump in addition to oem & resource that we'd already dropped for A11

[dim stirrup]

would I do this first or last, or does that matter?

nm, I think I see what I have to do...will update with results shortly

Looks good! Booted into EDL mode and ran edl qfil rawprogram0.xml patch0.xml . then rebooted back into EDL mode (Not sure if that was needed) and then flashed pmOS files using edl w boot lk2nd.img && edl w userdata lenovo-cd-18781y-rootfs.img and rebooted into normal mode and logged in with pmos...and `df -H shows:

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
dev                      10.0M         0     10.0M   0% /dev
run                     916.7M      1.5M    915.2M   0% /run
/dev/mapper/userdata2
                          6.3G      1.6G      4.3G  27% /
/dev/mapper/userdata1
                        225.7M     45.0M    168.6M  21% /boot
shm                     916.7M    284.0K    916.4M   0% /dev/shm
none                    916.7M         0    916.7M   0% /lib/firmware/msm-firmware-loader
/dev/mmcblk0p1           84.0M     24.6M     59.3M  29% /lib/firmware/msm-firmware-loader/mnt/modem
/dev/mmcblk0p25          27.5M     76.0K     26.7M   0% /lib/firmware/msm-firmware-loader/mnt/persist
tmpfs                   183.3M     44.0K    183.3M   0% /run/user/10000

This is great, much more comfortable in Linux (Just gotta learn pmOS quirks), thanx @fathom patrol !!!

Looks like Wifi MAC changes with each reboot? Noticed after a reboot would take a very long time to reconnect to wifi (Sometimes would have to manually click the profile to get it to work) and wondering if my router is being bitchy about a different MAC each time...At any rate, I'll keep hacking on it and update here and that thread as well

wow, not even each reboot, changed twice already in one login session

[fathom patrol]

hmm this sounds related to the mac issues with A11. I actually have a stable mac now, although different from what I have in android and appears randomly generated after a fresh pmos flash

the qcacld driver first checks the "cnss platform" and I'm still not sure where that's coming from https://github.com/deadman96385/android_kernel_lenovo_apq8053/blob/main/drivers/staging/qcacld-2.0/CORE/HDD/inc/wlan_hdd_cfg.h#L4622-L4634

I ended up resetting using the "rescue and smart assistant" from lenovo and that appears to have set it for me https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds101291-rescue-and-smart-assistant-lmsa

btw for flashing, if you put the 2 pmos img files in the same dir it should get them all in one shot

[humble karma]

Yeah, I seem to be getting some errors around the display: https://pastefy.app/wkxmmAfV

[dim stirrup]

Using latest postmarketOS image with @fathom patrol tweak to free up more space, wanting to turn it into a simple emulator (NES > GBA/SNES/MD) and figured install RetroArch first:

first boot:

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/userdata2
                          6.3G      1.6G      4.3G  27% /

after using postmarketOS Software app to install latest RetroArch flatpak version:

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/userdata2
                          6.3G      4.1G      1.8G  69% /

That seems a little...extra? Still messing around but any thoughts? Not against going with single emulators but I really like RetroArch's universal hotkeys for the cores I want

(Obviously probably more of a postmarkeyOS/RetroArch issue, just looking for ideas)

[humble karma]

Does the installer not strip out optional dependencies or things need for install?

[long reef]

Is it installing all cores?

[humble karma]

I discovered that it's not that my screen is off, it's that it's displaying at about as dim as you can possibly imagine 😆

[arctic swan]

https://tenor.com/bcgSU.gif

[humble karma]

If I can get postmarket running, this is gonna be neat!

[next mural]

You got the controller

[humble karma]

i sure did

It is definitely cheap, but the size is right

What do you all think about this setup?

Sure it's wired. Sure it weighs twice as much as a steam deck...

[jolly pivot]

attach another one on top and you can split screen

[humble karma]

https://tenor.com/view/pod-racing-pod-race-anakin-star-wars-gif-14869284

[humble karma]

bartop arcade mod!

[long reef]

I still need to work on my custom controller… have had no time

[potent crypt]

First 4gig ram mod done, seems to work 😅 now to actually load some usable firmware on it @rough eagle

[humble karma]

Wow! Nice!

How much did the RAM cost? I guess I'd probably need a microscope to do it and I don't have one

[potent crypt]

Can probably get away with a 10 dollar usb microscope and soldering hot air station.

Chip cost about 15 bucks

[humble karma]

I've got a heat gun and some decent soldering stuff

[potent crypt]

I have a stereo microscope, 2 eyes so you get depth. First time actually using it but it really helps

I've done lots of taking chips off for data recovery but this is the first time I've put a bga back on, it seems to have went well. I mean it works lol gotta fine maybe a ram tester or something for android to see if there's any issues

[humble karma]

That's very cool. Congrats on your first successful install

[rough eagle]

Sick! I really need to get off my butt and try this but I want to do the eMMC at the same time

[potent crypt]

Emmc isn't here yet lol so I'll have to wait

[rough eagle]

@sick snow swapped the eMMC but wasn't able to flash the android image through EDL so it probably needs to be provisioned prior to soldering

[sick snow]

nice!!!!

i think the bootloader is written to BOOT0 and doesn't flash through the QC tools

[potent crypt]

If we get the pinout, the emmc can be hooked up to a SD card reader without pulling the chip

I'll see if I can measure mine when I pull the chip

Then you won't need anything fancy, just solder flywires to a SD card reader

We only need d0, cmd,clk, vccq

[next mural]

woah

[sick snow]

most sd emmc readers won’t address boot0

[next mural]

Someone is working on 64 bit android kernel as well

alas we might get yuzu working before they stop working

[rough eagle]

Like this cheapo?

[sick snow]

yeah, i’m not 100% sure but i don’t think it’ll work

[rough eagle]

So we mail all our eMMC to anyone with a UFI box

[potent crypt]

No dice, I tried to trace them to exposed traces but I couldn't find any :c

I'll atleast get a dump and upload it

[potent crypt]

boot 0 and 1 dumped :))

[humble karma]

Just got me screen displaying in PMOS, but no touchsreen. I guess I would need to... connect something to it via bluetooth on the commandline?

[sick snow]

looks like BOOT1 has some info

[potent crypt]

I just used my ufs to dump it. "Boot area 1" I labeled 0 and are area 2 I did 1

[sick snow]

yeah that should be right

🤔

[potent crypt]

It read the chip for sure, otherwise it wouldn't see it and get the info. Just alot of zeros in the boot

[sick snow]

yeah for sure

[sick snow]

when do you get your emmc's?

[potent crypt]

any day now, i ordered it the same day as the ram

[potent crypt]

if your in the US, i can program your chips if you wanna pay postage.

Otherwise I think this should be able to copy your chips, it's cheaper than my ufs programmer. It does bga 153/169.

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
$128.18 | Original RT809H Standard Programmer Kit Set EMMC-NAND FLASH USB BGA48 BGA64 BGA169 TSOP56 SOP44-DIP44 All Adapters With Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLqcBgO

@rough eagle @sick snow ( @raven pagoda double check your emmc package tho, idr what you needed)

[sick snow]

i found something cheaper that I have on order but wanted to test it all out first, my problem these days is time, awesome you're willing to flash some emmc's though!

[humble karma]

Well it looks like the one thinksmart I tried to install post market on has a different screen and touchscreen so the drivers don't work. There's some extra effort there

[humble karma]

Is anyone here using the postmarkOS build for emulation here?

[dim stirrup]

I was messing with it a few days ago, ran into issues using the RetroArch supplied by the postmarketOS Software application (Was taking up almost 3GB after install) but haven't circled back to it yet...I will say the Bluetooth connectivity was solid, didn't have to forget/pair the device after reboots

I'll give it another go tonight/tomorrow

[humble karma]

Funny you say that since I've been having re-pairing issues. Pmos retroarch won't install cores and the flatpak one doesn't seem to fit

[dim stirrup]

Really? I'll have to bust out my dev uinit and retest, but I seem to recall not seeing any of the bluetooth issues I had with Android builds...But yeah, the retroarch stuff is frustrating, should be a simple install/config...Sadly postmarketOS doesn't support AppImage (Which means ES-DE is not an option either)

[slate anvil]

Obviously THE definitive way to emulate DS games

[humble karma]

Any other way is bad wrong fun

[humble karma]

I've never had much luck with gnome and Bluetooth for some reason

[humble karma]

Did you try both A8 and A11? I heard A8 is a lot more stable and reliable as of right now

[next mural]

How big is opening of sides of controller

[humble karma]

It's pretty big. It could work on a typical tablet, I think

[next mural]

It's lil bit thick

Bc the active casing

[humble karma]

I'm so confused at what I'm looking at. So you want something that can hold a device that's thick, not one that's wide

[next mural]

Yeah it's not particularly huge

[humble karma]

Things you know for scale @next mural

IN short, I don't think it will work for your giant thing

[next mural]

Rip

[humble karma]

I bet you could use some sort of shim

[next mural]

So the tablet " ones are skinny too 🧐

[humble karma]

I suspect they're all designed to fit snugly on thin tablets

You need a 3d printer

[slate anvil]

If anyone else loves pinball I'd highly suggest flipping this device portrait style and trying out Metroid Prime Pinball. Between the gameplay and soundtrack it's just

[next mural]

Hook me up

[past flame]

I was trying to work on this, I do have QACT installed. Do you have any ideas on what I can try?

[lilac flint]

I can ask around, I've not personally done it

[slate anvil]

What even is that thing, man?

[next mural]

It's a PC

[slate anvil]

Ah what model?

[next mural]

It's Intel

can't say more for now

Will be introducing it soon

[slate anvil]

Oh damn, aight. Looking forward to it.

[next mural]

Yeah just need to figure out a controller 🎮

Can fit it if someone could make a holder for it would be awesome

Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
$7.16 4%OFF | Mobile Game Controller Gaming Grip Handle Adapter Fit For Nintend Switch/Oled Joy-Con for IOS Android Mobile Phone Gaming Holder
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I was looking at this maybe 🤔 or thinking of a Nvidia shield type thing that could strap onto a Xbox controller

[slate anvil]

Huh that rail thing is pretty cool. Would be even cooler if it could accept the Hori split pads and use that instead.

[next mural]

It should I believe it's compat any joycon

But I'm not sure if that would too wide then

As that thing is already 6~7 inch on its own

[slate anvil]

Issue is, at least with the splitpads I have, they're not battery powered. So that device probably doesn't do anything to connect the joycons and just plays the part of a physical bridge.

[past flame]

That would be awesome, thank you!

[next mural]

Yeah I think would just use Bluetooth basically

[vagrant vault]

Gh0sty what are you up to and DM me I want in on the ground floor?

[next mural]

some literal maniacal stuff

[vagrant vault]

Oh no Ghosty. You're getting into some trouble.

[next mural]

Never that just gonna intro some more of what ppl haven't seen

[vagrant vault]

Looking forward to it. I just want to grab whatever it is before you drive the prices up.

[next mural]

this one won't particularly be a bargain as Intel 12 gen based

But it won't be super expensive either

Reasonable for the form factor I believe

Something marginally smaller/bigger than the win 2

Which is such awesome size to me

Since can shove in pocket like a heathen

naturally at that size I will need to work on cooling I believe some

But seeing PC version of Ori at this form factor is a jaw dropping experience

Like literally the controller is abt the size of screen

[vagrant vault]

Well dang it runs Ori.

[next mural]

Ninja turtle is a good time as well but ofc way less taxing game

[vagrant vault]

The new one?

[next mural]

Indeed

Probably gonna work on it some more this weekend and rip it open

Want to see if can get temps down lil bit

buh as you can see even at 90 degrees the experience is well decent

Just BBQ said computer

[slate anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

That's a very unique shape

[next mural]

don't eye it too hard it might break

[last sky]

I just gone down the rabbit hole, didn't realize there was just a 7k+ thread in here! 🤣 Here I was going through all the posts on HA because that's mainly what I'd like to transform the ThinkSmart View into

[sweet wren]

🤣🤣

[last sky]

That's what you meant by progress, I was going off XDA, which sent me to HA, which made me go full circle in RH's discord ahaahahh

[humble karma]

https://tenor.com/view/bdg-brian-david-gilbert-vampire-welcome-spooky-gif-23570028

Once the PMOS or A11 build stabilizes, the hype train will not be stopped

[last sky]

that pmOS build seems to be going very smoothly, and from what I read on HA, the A11 build is as well? Tks to zeh legend Deadman

[humble karma]

I think it would be accurate to say that the A11 build has some wifi and bluetooth issues
The PMOS build doesn't work for some HW variants but seems to do pretty alright when you're not on those. I wasn't able to get Retroarch working on PMOS though

[last sky]

you have no idea how appreciative that I am right now that you could break it down for me in one sentence 🤣

Ok, well thats some pretty exciting stuff in the horizon

[humble karma]

You'll be even more thankful if I'm actually right 😆 I think there's a bit more to A11 (I couldn't get FLAC playback) but that's a me thing

Also the A8 build seems a bit more stable but less generally compatible. Might be good if you want bluetooth or gaming ASAP

[last sky]

Well, for the time being, yeah A8 has some interesting usecases as an HA with extra features, like say Duolingo, Moonlight, etc... I still wish I could just drop a "Hey Google play some music" but I'm ultimately setup in a way that it is always at arms length so no big deal... But the sound of A11 sure is amazing as yes, compatibility on A8 is lacking. They also make for interesting "short form" consuming devices, YouTube Shorts work quite nicely, TikTok doesn't.

At this rate, this'll be the next best thing outside of making a tablet fully static, which I've tried but I don't know, it's not the same...

I like the heft of the ThinkSmart View and the formfactor

[stark prairie]

There's a A10 with gapps gsi you can get where hey Google works.

v222 off of phh I think?

[next mural]

@last sky welcome

I see you're finally digging into it lol

[last sky]

😁 I am, saw your name pop here and there too while getting up to speed!

[slate anvil]

Man I give up, I've searched for every variation of i12 tablet I could think of. Hope you put out that vid soon.

[next mural]

Bahaha will do dw just getting controller n cooling situated soon

as I don't put out anything I'm not confident about first

[slate anvil]

Not sure what the vent situation is like but you could try one of those phone coolers or a third-party dock like: https://a.co/d/2x4k6Ef

[next mural]

Yeah looking into tec cooling solution atm

[next mural]

I think it's called tec or whatever that peltier shii was called

[cinder thunder]

I found it but not gonna go ruin whatever @next mural is concocting

Definitely on to something cool

[next mural]

for most ppl it's 5 weeks out or more

One way or another

Has already gone up over 100 bucks since I first tweeted abt it 🤠this is why I avoid putting out info

Before putting out smth into the wild

Bc few folks end up ruining for everyone

[next mural]

Seriously cool

I picked up a win 2 for comparison as well

Cost of win2 in mint condition with third cooling mod

Will be nearly identical price

For MUCH older tech

[cinder thunder]

Form factor seems better too

Have you found a controller that can handle the thiccness yet

[next mural]

The answer is yes

However will be moreso Nvidia shield kind of vibe not kishi kind as I don't find that particularly flattering for the hamheld

[next mural]

Considering it's heft

[next mural]

it's okay I think ppl might buy bc coolness factor

Tbh

Also how I will position the device

and pit it against the win 2 which will out of pocket effectively cost more or less similar within 50 bucks or so of each other

[slate anvil]

JESUS

[next mural]

Which I mean I think personally putting together a windows hamheld w off the shelf stuff and still keeping cost under 1k

For me being singular person

Not a company

Is A okay

[slate anvil]

Agreed

[next mural]

The backing does seem to be metal

Wondering 🤔 if should just offset the heat to the back

But then might become unpleasant

[next mural]

gonna see if can lower temps some this weekend

Then probably next weekend will delve into 🎮

[humble karma]

Just discovered that Google docs crashes on A11.

When I open docs anyway

[next mural]

Rough

[atomic ether]

anyone see excessive memory usage by "android OS" on A11?

my free memory in top hovers around 64-80M free shows swap 100% used

it has been sitting on the home screen for around 2 weeks

[keen spear]

I bought this the day @sweet wren put up his video. I think I might tackle it this week. Any advice before I follow his directions and start coding like a high schooler on MySpace?

Also that white looks nice 😁

[humble karma]

I don't know how I have so much trouble getting input working in retroarch

I got it working in the menus but it doesn't work in the emulator 😩

OK, looks like I suddenly got it working. Nice

It might be that retroarch doesn't like "android" input but xbox controller emulation is fine

[humble karma]

now that I seem to have Retroarch functioning on an A8 build, any thoughts on the best vertical arcade games to play?

[real trout]

Is anyone on the android 11 ROM having issues with the auto-rotation?

[rough eagle]

1943: battle of midway is my most played of that franchise

[humble karma]

Great! I plan on loading those up

[silver spear]

Besides all the vertical shooters, you can try early 80's arcade games as a lot of them were vertical.
The pacmans, donkey kongs, space invaders, galaga, galaxian, tempest, digdug, frogger, spy hunter, crazy climber, mr do's castle, centipede, gunsmoke, ikari warriors, contra, bump n jump, burger time, crush roller, mappy, pengo, gyruss, gorf, phoenix, time pilot, sinistar, nibbler, bagman, xevious, new rally x, punchout, satan's hollow, and more.

[humble karma]

Good big list. I'll poke around! Thanks

[sick snow]

@potent crypt were you able to successfully transfer to a new eMMC at all, I think I'm going to finally give it another go this weekend

[potent crypt]

I think I accidentally threw the chip out lol. It was shipped with another package. I didn't see it but I didn't look hard because i didnt know it was shipped with that item. Either that or ali didn't pack it. I'm gonna submit a claim

[sick snow]

i know exactly what you're talking about!

[rough eagle]

They're so tiny

[rough eagle]

I can send you one of mine if you'd like

[potent crypt]

Thank you, but I already ordered another one

[potent crypt]

We're you able to get a reader?

[sick snow]

I think so

[potent crypt]

Lmk how it goes

[slate anvil]

How's the emmc stuff going, guys?

[humble karma]

An aside: I haven't heard anything about it recently, so I think the A11 work might be stalled out.

[real trout]

@lilac flint was leading the charge, if he's moved onto other things then it's probably not going to see any improvements

[next mural]

Think he's been bz with robotics 🏆 championships will return afterwards

[potent crypt]

My new emmc chip came so I'll be trying to swap it soon

[carmine apex]

I MAY HAVE

a lenovo on the way

but not another thinksmart

👀

[humble karma]

Oh! What are you getting?

[carmine apex]

P12+stylus

mostly for actual work but might throw an emulator or two on there

[humble karma]

Uh oh.

Gonna have some googling to do when I'm back from my trip

[cinder thunder]

Maybe this can help?

[frigid hatch]

🙏

[real trout]

Anyone else having issues with these crashing after a few weeks and needing to be factory reset?

It started with just one and I figured it was a fluke, but now two more of mine have done it

[winged nova]

anyone able to get netflix working?

[frigid hatch]

Android 11 or 8?

[real trout]

11

Though it seems that repeated reboots has gotten them working again without the factory reset

[brittle zealot]

has anyone tried treble

[brittle zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088DB94SW/

is this the right one

[brittle zealot]

does wifi work

[rough eagle]

Yep that's it

[brittle zealot]

bet

[brittle zealot]

has anyone tried installing assistant core

[rough eagle]

No idea what that is

I got android 8 on mine and then stopped paying attention

[brittle zealot]

its what runs on the lenovo smart displays

[rough eagle]

Oh ew

[stuck quiver]

I actually want one of these for pretty much its intended purpose where is the cheapest place I can get them? Ik that e bay has it at 40 any cheaper? Canada btw if that matters

[jolly pivot]

you can try making an offer of 40 for two

[rough eagle]

On the eBay page maybe.

[brittle zealot]

Does the mic work on a GSI rom

[rough eagle]

You're pinging the wrong person. I just use it to watch Plex

[stark prairie]

It does. Deadman's build (check pins) has Android 11 GSI with Go apps.

There's a Android 10 GSI with full Google apps that will work with "hey Google".

[opaque girder]

I set up A11 on mine, but I really only want to have it as a desktop browser (grafana) or some apps (spotify/etc).
Is A11 my best option? Or can I set back to A8 and get the same functionality?

[burnt olive]

Is there a guide for getting it to Android 11? At this point, I just really want an emulation station screensaver

[long reef]

#1199440904566620260 message

[burnt olive]

Thank you. I should have known to check the pins

[frigid hatch]

You get this set up? Any hiccups or advice? Same here. I really just want emulation station (and google photos for a picture frame)

[burnt olive]

Not yet, it will be a weekend project

[frigid hatch]

Really eager to learn from your process if you get it working. I am pretty tech savvy but not super familiar with Android

[brittle zealot]

It isnt that hard it is all GUI based most of the time android stuff is CLI based

[brittle zealot]

this device is arm a only correct

[brittle zealot]

can I just replace the system.img

I also dont want to get the wrong one

https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/download/v222/system-quack-arm-aonly-gapps.img.xz

would that work

[brittle zealot]

is the same vendor in the new version

[stark prairie]

it's been awhile but yes, i think so, only if you're starting with deadman's most recent build because the system partiion on stock wasn't big enough for that.

that's the one i used when i got it to work.

[brittle zealot]

Do I have to unlock the bootloader before flashing

Or can I just follow the steps to use qfil

[stark prairie]

if you're using the qfil process then i don't think you need to unlock the bootloader ... hm.

no, i don't think you do. basic qfil instructins are here: https://xdaforums.com/t/cd-18781y-lenovo-thinksmart-view-bootloader-firmware-zoom-teams-conversion-normal-android.4426029/

so get the drivers and qpst from there, and just use deadman's download from the pins

[brittle zealot]

Just purchased mine

[brittle zealot]

did anyone else buy from amazon

[humble karma]

I bought one of mine from Amazon

[brittle zealot]

did you use eTechtronics

[brittle zealot]

I got my view

[brittle zealot]

Android 10 With "Hey Google" Support

[opaque girder]

Looking good. I've gotta tinker a bit more with mine. A11 is working fine, but I think I'll downgrade back to 10 or 8 since I just want a basic screen

[long reef]

What's the benefit of 10 over 11, just the hey google?

[opaque girder]

for my uses (not emulation, browser and some apps), yes.

[azure lark]

What are the pros.and cons of each other versions? I m bout tò Jump in but i Just want stream music and videos (jellyfin and YT)

[winged nova]

mind to share the a10 link?

[brittle zealot]

https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v222 system-quack-arm-aonly-gapps.img.xz it must be flashed via fastboot. First flash a stock package that allows u to unlock the bootloader the unlock it from fastboot. Then flash the android 11 package then flash the image from fastboot then relock the bootloader

that was the only way that it worked for me

u would need one of these

[brittle zealot]

I havent tested 8 however performace on 10 is great

[humble karma]

Oh, i didn't realize A10 was an option

I think I'm going to have to give it a try

[brittle zealot]

It's slightly more complicated to install

[humble karma]

How is the wifi stability?

[brittle zealot]

Great

[humble karma]

I get semi-regular disconnects on a11

[brittle zealot]

I have had 0 disconnects

[humble karma]

Very nice. I'm going to see about setting up one of my Thinksmarts with A10 to see how I like it tonight or this weekend

[brittle zealot]

Keep in mind I only have one device

[humble karma]

Sure. Well, I have one sitting there to test PMOS progress but I really should just stop collecting dust and make it useful

[brittle zealot]

But yeah you flash a firmware where u can use adb open the android settings enable OEM unlocking unlock the bootloader. Flash the android 11 package go to fastboot flash the 10 image then relock the bootloader

[brittle zealot]

I also installed the AOSP keyboard as it is alot less buggy

[brittle zealot]

and full non go gapps

[brittle zealot]

I dont reccomend Android 8 as chrome support for Android Oreo ends this year

[brittle zealot]

Custom quick settings tiles

[winged nova]

thanks so much. i will try this later. my main concern .. how about wake up feature? will it able to wake up by touch screen?

[brittle zealot]

No

[swift mango]

Could anyone point me in the right direction to see what I may be missing? I'm trying to flash new firmware onto my ThinkSmart View, but QFIL is constantly giving me errors saying it can't opem the com port handle and results in the Sahara Fila:QSaharaServer Fail.

• I've Tried 3 different USB C cables, both USB C to C & USB A to C including different ports on my PC.
• Made sure to download the drivers from the zip file included in the youtube video, installed Multiple times.
• My QFIL version is 2.0.3.5 (Same errors with version 2.0.1.9 in the video)
• I made sure to hit download as soon as the Qalcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 shows up on the COM port
  I feel like I'm probably missing something very simple as this is the first device I've flashed like this. I just don't know what I overlooked. Any help is appreciated.

[median yarrow]

I'm not sure if this made a difference but you can try turning off driver signing

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-root-unlocking-and-improving-your-lenovo-thinksmart-view-cd-18781y.4584033/

[swift mango]

That was it! Thanks! Kinda stinks I have to disable a security feature but it’s worth it and isn’t too bad to turn back on.

[fathom patrol]

so after seeing android 10 working better for@brittle zealot I'm trying one out as well (v222 quack-arm-aonly-go since I don't use the assistant). Only a day's worth of testing, but so far boots way faster and haven't had any panics on startup or when wifi connects. Should be able to replace the GSI system.img from deadman's package and flash it in one go

My take is either the 3.18 kernel is just too old for A11, or it was trying to do too much with limited resources and frequently restarting processes or occasionally panicing. For my needs with this one (HA w/ fully kiosk) A10 seems to do the trick.

[brittle zealot]

if u dont use assistant then why use 10

[fathom patrol]

because 11 was unstable for me, kernel panics on boot and had to disable wifi auto-connect

[brittle zealot]

weird

[fathom patrol]

yeah 🤷‍♂️

[brittle zealot]

u could also try the webview shell app for less ram usage

https://apkcombo.com/webview-shell/org.chromium.webview_shell/

[fathom patrol]

oh cool. I'm using the fully kiosk browser that also has motion detection to turn the screen back on

[brittle zealot]

it has sensors for that

?

[fathom patrol]

uses the camera and optionally the mic

[brittle zealot]

sounds kinda sus

[fathom patrol]

lol. pretty common for wall mounted tablets etc

https://wallpanel.app/ is similar

[brittle zealot]

I would never trust my camera always on

[fathom patrol]

it's local only but yeah I hear ya

[brittle zealot]

thats what they said with Eufy

and look what happened

I think there was even data sent to china

and the chinese government donesnt exactly have the best track record when it comes to requesting private user data from companies

[fathom patrol]

yep not worried

[median yarrow]

@brittle zealot Would you say a10 runs better than a8? I might reflash mine if so

Oh wait, you already said you don't know

[swift mango]

So, I've ran into a weird issue. I got 2 of these ThinkSmarts and flashed them with the same build. I noticed that both have the same Mac Address which is causing network issues. I was able to use busybox & terminal emulator to change the WiFi Mac Address to something different, but it's not authenticating when I try reconnecting. I also notice the other ThinkSmart is disconnecting momentarily when the other is trying to connect, as if the MAC Address hasn't changed at all.
Edit: Guess I forgot to read more forums again. Found some steps by Endlessvoid on the Home Assistant forum: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/is-this-the-perfect-standalone-tablet-for-ha/658422/581

adb root
adb pull /vendor/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini
edit the file (change the value for Intf0MacAddress) and save
adb remount
adb push WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini /vendor/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/
adb reboot

[brittle zealot]

Yes

Android 8 chrome and web view support ends this year

[rough eagle]

Pbbbtttt

Like Google has ever dropped support for something before.

[brittle zealot]

if u are using 2 or more device then it is reccomended to use the GSI following the instructions in the pins

[past flame]

Which apk did you use? The ones online seem to keep stopping when I actually try to pull up the keyboard

[past flame]

And also do you encounter reboots sending you into fastboot? A second reboot seems to get me back into the OS

[long reef]

I had this issue from time to time

[brittle zealot]

You have to install it via as a system app

You also need to make sure the libraries are installed

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-install-lineageos-aosp-keyboard-on-any-phone.[phone]/

You need root

[fathom patrol]

yeah I'm not having this problem anymore after going back to A10. and side bonus, the square app switcher button works there too

[past flame]

Hmm I still am getting this issue on A10, what was your flashing process? I flashed the a11 packages and then booted to fastboot and flashed the A10 system img

It doesn't reboot into fastboot on its own, it only happens after a forced reboot (unplugging and plugging back in)

[brittle zealot]

you also need to make sure that the bootloader has been relocked and that you flashed userdata using fastboot and relocked the bootloader

[ember verge]

oh shit i forgot to mention that to y'all

not sure how spotify looks on your end but you may want to check out Spotify Lite, its UI is a LOT cleaner in landscape

odin 2 for comparison

[ember verge]

and if you use Jellyfin, Finamp is doing a UI revamp and it looks nice on landscape devices

[fathom patrol]

hmm I've only flashed with edl, but going through fastboot should do essentially the same thing. I also booted back into recovery after and did a reset to start fresh on A10

[past flame]

did you flash A10 straight with edl? (Did you swap the system.img from deadman's A11 package with the A10 version) and flash with qfil/edl?

[fathom patrol]

I've flashed so many different things I wouldnt say it was a one shot thing 😆 but there are a few ways to get the data on the partition. fastboot flash, edl qfil, or "edl w" (to write to a single partition) should get u there

things get funky in userdata though so be sure to do that reset

[past flame]

Okay perfect, thanks for sharing. I am all booted in A10, and have wiped userdata so I went through the oobe

I still notice boots into fastboot after a unplug and replug in a short period of time

its not a big deal but seems odd as another reboot lets it go through

[fathom patrol]

oh hmm. I have mine on a wifi outlet and haven't had any issues recently. lemme try turning it right back on..

[past flame]

Thanks, I would get it booted up, then killing power and turning it back on within 10 seconds

[fathom patrol]

booting 🤷‍♂️

if u wanna do a "full" reset (and I have a few times now), checkout their rescue assistant thing https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds101291-rescue-and-smart-assistant-lmsa

that's still doing something that fixes the wifi mac address instead of getting the default from that conf file, and we haven't found where that's going yet

[past flame]

dang okay I guess i've done something wrong then lol

[past flame]

good point, thanks for sharing I'll check it out

[fathom patrol]

cool hope it helps

[past flame]

Also have you seen any graphical glitches, I see some flickering from time to time

Interestingly later versions of the Teams rom's don't have that issue

but since we are based off the debug rom it might have been carried through

[fathom patrol]

I don't think we have the hardware acceleration that some things are trying to use. like the fully kiosk slide out menu can be funky

if you try the postmarketos route (which is working surprisingly well), firefox is a shitshow until u disable the acceleration

[past flame]

I thought so too but the slide out worked well on one of the newer stock firmware's so I think they've fixed something. Going back to the debug firmware though I can see the glitches on fully kiosk

[fathom patrol]

oh possibly

[past flame]

Ah okay I see, im still pleasantly surprised on how well it works

[fathom patrol]

yeah I have 1 on each now. fully on android and voice assistant on pmos

[past flame]

do you see the pmos one ever fully replacing android?

[fathom patrol]

only if u don't need android apps lol. for home assistant probably

but at this point the camera isn't working in pmos (apparently its only done with an android userspace binary). it's nice using that with fully to turn the screen back on

[past flame]

Yeah that's a good point, I might stick with android for now I guess then. I do have a ld2410 presence sensor in the room of the device so I likely could use it to wake the screen

[fathom patrol]

yeah might end up doing something like that too. so far the only way I've found to wake it with pmos is to send urgent notifications 🙃

[past flame]

Ah dang thats unfortunate, i would have hoped there would be a better way lol

[fathom patrol]

haha I'm sure there is

[brittle zealot]

here is the keyboard and bootanimation

[next mural]

@ember verge did you ever end up getting one 🤯

[ember verge]

nope

[jolly pivot]

Seems like the hype went down

[next mural]

😂well I can't be the only person making infinite vids on it

So yeah

[ember verge]

that's why

it would be a spotify hub in my house otherwise

[frigid hatch]

I’ve only seen the retro tech dad vid.. have you put anything else? I’ll gladly mess with another tutorial to do a10 or a11 if one exists! I’d love to switch from 8 if I can get emulation station going lol

[tulip bloom]

I have two of these running A11 and both are having a strange issue. It seems like every few days, the screen goes black as if the unit is turned off. Toggling the camera switch does not bring it back to life. I have to unplug and plug the unit back in to restart the device. Anyone else have this issue?

[long reef]

I don't think I've had that issue, I am using deadmans image. I actually didn't use mine for weeks and went and toggled the switch and it woke right up.

[winged nova]

flashed mine with a11 & a10. unfortunately not 100% compatible with OTT Navigator app. flashed a9 and OTT Navigator, stremio working great.

[frigid hatch]

Lenovo ThinkSmart View for Microsoft Teams - $27.99 - Free shipping for Prime members https://www.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinksmart-view-for-microsoft-teams?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

[merry jetty]

Just found another one of these at a charity shop for $15.

[slim moon]

I just got one of the two I bought flashed up. Got them off Woot! 😄

[real trout]

@past flame @fathom patrol , did either of you encounter new issues when using the A10 GoApps ROM for your system image?

I seem to be having an issue where the touch screen won't wake up if the device goes to sleep. Everything works on a restart, but if I let the display turn off I can wake up the lcd but touch no longer works.

Didn't have this on A11, but no one else that tried A10 has mentioned it, so it might be just me.

[fathom patrol]

I’ve seen it get stuck on the splash screen a few times but overall way more reliable for me than A11. I’m using fully kiosk to turn the screen back on and haven’t had any issues with the touch screen 🤔

Also switched to the full Google apps image

[lilac flint]

Hey peeps, sorry I was away for awhile been busy with work and other stuff. Planning to knock out some stuff this weekend on it.

[humble karma]

That's exciting to hear! I'd love to hear any ramblings about what's coming or what you get done. Thanks to you, my A11 build plays tidal music in my house basically every day (and it has failing wifi -based auto-shutoff 😆 )

[lilac flint]

Hopefully a pure caf build here soon, I've also bought a USB c breakout board to enable me to easily connect to uart on the USB c connector

[humble karma]

I am an idiot/I have four of these things so if you need someone to test a build, let me know

[lilac flint]

I also have 4 lol

Technically 5, but it's for someone else later this summer

[humble karma]

Fair enough.

The main painpoints that I have are that I am having trouble with jellyfin playback (maybe from x265, x264 encoding), gdocs can't load my recipes (I think it runs out of memory) and that my wifi disconnects regularly so music tends to only play for about a half an hour,

but I've got a recipe device in the kitchen, a tidal player in my living room, an A8 one set up for retroarch gaming and then one I was messing around with PMOS on

[lilac flint]

Something that may be worth looking into is enabling zram if it isn't already and if it is maybe making it larger

It won't solve everything but helps on low ram devices

One of the things I'm planning on is looking at wifi as well to see if I can get it more stable

[humble karma]

Makes sense! I'll look into the zram

[misty hull]

i got off of my ass

[jolly pivot]

Why everything huge af lol

[misty hull]

https://twitter.com/electimon/status/1794560619485536372

electimon (@electimon) on X

Ok speedrun done, total time: 12 hours

Twitter · May 26, 2024, 2:46 AM

it is no longer huge

[jolly pivot]

Ah nice. Looks good

[past flame]

I didn't have the issue you were describing but I have mine still going to the Lenovo logo every other reboot, also enabling an auto start app seems to make it crash as soon as it reaches the home screen

[humble karma]

I tried to run EDL today so do some new version stuff but it seems like I can run EDL anymore. 😩 Trying to set it up and I'm getting issues with pylzma, which is an apparent dependency.

[balmy iris]

Dear all! does anyone recommend an application to get the notification bar and navigation bar? (preferably open source/ad free)

[past flame]

Would you be able to share your images? And did you have any screen wakeup issues?

[humble karma]

ThinkSmart things are happening over here

[humble karma]

Can anyone suggest a way to shutdown a thinksmart from within android safely?

I found a solution: https://f-droid.org/packages/com.maforn.timedshutdown/

[misty hull]

Yeah I can

And no I haven't noticed any

[real trout]

Good to have you back, been getting a lot of mileage out of your last build.

[real trout]

Thanks, I'll try switching to the full gapps and see if it fixes things

[humble karma]

So far I'm happiest with gapps pico

[fathom patrol]

I'd be surprised if that changed much - I was curious if I could switch the default assistant to alexa or HA assist but that's not an option anymore. the lineage build is coming along nicely even with 8.1 so your best bet is probably to hold off for that

[humble karma]

Lineage build is good

[real trout]

Doesn't the lineage build still have the pre A10 limitation on applications accessing mic simultaneously?

[fathom patrol]

ah I guess so. well the next goal is lineage 19.1 (android 12.1) so that should cover it

[real trout]

Yeah that would be a huge step forward

[humble karma]

I worry that a leap forward like that would cut out too much RAM or take too much space on the device with it being so limited.

But we'll see

[lilac flint]

Yeah it's my worry as well, it will definitely be Android Go edition

[humble karma]

For me right now a8 seems to do 100% of what I want but I'll test future updates on a spare device

[past flame]

Thank you! We're all very excited to try it out

[humble karma]

Still having wifi issues with the new Thinksmart Lineage thing but I will be updating two units tonight

[past flame]

Where did you find the ROM?

[humble karma]

I flattered the right person correctly. There are still some things that may need ironed out before said right person goes live here, I think

Trying to minimize the jank and build thrash for everyone, I suspect

[past flame]

Gotcha, thanks for sharing! Is there a rom that hasn't given you WiFi issues so far?

[humble karma]

I haven't done a lot of work on A8 so I don't know if that's not giving me wifi issues. I don't really know networking, etc. but I think that some of my issues might deal with having multiple thinksmarts online at once

In short, I will get disconnects during streaming

It could also be that the wifi in them is super weak and I need a repeater or something. I don't know

It's not in a weak wifi spot in my house

[past flame]

Ohh, did you check to make sure that the MAC addresses are different on all of them?

[humble karma]

I thought I had them set to cycle but I probably missed one.

[lilac flint]

Will be releasing one today

[misty hull]

thats hilarious

[lilac flint]

@misty hull Should get most of the credit for 15.1/19.1 she did a speed run bringup of it I just gave moral support and helped with device knowledge.

[misty hull]

literally couldnt have done it without you lol

[past flame]

You both are awesome!

[humble karma]

I very much appreciate how much you do

[lilac flint]

Stable Lineage 15.1 Rom for Lenovo Thinksmart View

Big thanks to @misty hull for all her work on the device tree and bringup

You will need a PC for QFIL and ADB commands

1. Flash the userdebug firmware provided on the xda thread follow insturctions there https://xdaforums.com/t/cd-18781y-lenovo-thinksmart-view-bootloader-firmware-zoom-teams-conversion-normal-android.4426029/
2. Boot the device into EDL, 3 different ways: adb reboot edl, both vol keys and plugging in power, edl cable)
3. Using QFIL, Make sure atleast the programmer/firehose and rawprogram0 are selected (Optionally use the Python EDL Client) https://github.com/bkerler/edl
4. Select the Tools menu and then Partition Manager
5. Find recovery in the list and right click it then select "Manage Partition Data"
6. Select Load image and navigate to your downloaded lineage recovery
7. Should finish within 5-10 seconds once done click close and then close again but wait before hitting the final ok
8. Hold Volume + (One near mic mute switch) while you press the ok button to automatically boot into recovery
   Note: If you are on a stock rom it will overwrite your recovery if you boot up without holding vol+ so you will need to reflash.
9. In Recovery the touchscreen does not work, use the volume keys to select and then the camera shutter switch to select
10. Go to "Factory reset" and then select "Wipe Data / Factory Reset"
11. Go to "Apply update" then "Apply from adb"
12. Now adb sideload the lineage zip adb sideload lineage-15.1-20240531-UNOFFICIAL-starfire.zip

At this point the device is ready to use if you want Google apps and or other mods now is when you will do them

Google apps are not included by default to install them you will adb sideload them the same as the main lineage zip.

Bugs:
Rotation can get stuck sometimes until you toggle auto rotation
Wifi mac address is the same between devices so if you have multiple you will need to a modification to a file to fix it
Camera shutter is the power button
Mic switch is unused but does fire a keycode for 3rd party apps to hook
Tell me if you find any more

OpenGapps Pico gapps package for android 8.1 is the largest you can go without expanding your system partition.
Gapps setup may be a bit unstable until you get fully logged in just keep retrying if it gets stuck with "Getting updates"
https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengapps/files/arm/20220215/

Change the "randomly" generated mac address seed value (Credit: @real trout):
adb root
adb pull /vendor/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini
edit the file (change the value for Intf0MacAddress) and save
adb remount
adb push WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini /vendor/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/
adb reboot

Lineage zip
https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/rom-release/LineageOS/15.1/starfire/lineage-15.1-20240531-UNOFFICIAL-starfire.zip

Lineage Recovery Image
https://s3.us-west-1.wasabisys.com/rom-release/LineageOS/15.1/starfire/lineage-15.1-20240531-UNOFFICIAL-starfire-recovery.img

Kernel Source:
https://github.com/Starfire-development/android_kernel_lenovo_apq8053

Device Tree Source:
https://github.com/Starfire-development/android_device_lenovo_starfire

Vendor Tree Source (Gatekeeper, DRM/SEE, Graphics, Audio helpers(Not calibration) are from Motorola G6 (Ali), everything else is from stock):
https://github.com/Starfire-development/proprietary_vendor_lenovo_starfire

[humble karma]

Hail Deadman, King!

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-happy-high-five-celebrate-champion-gif-16799628

Hail @misty hull, the ... secret power behind the throne? 👀

[lilac flint]

If you desire the mic switch to be the power button and not the camera shutter, flash this boot.img. I will be working on a switch for settings tomorrow hopefully.

There also is an option for Volume Key wake as well in Settings > System > Buttons

[twilit walrus]

Damn. I guess I have to buy one now...

[humble karma]

Buy four! ... I did

[lilac flint]

4 gang unite

[humble karma]

🍀

[opaque girder]

oh snap...

[humble karma]

Two of my thinksmart units can't make it through the lineage boot animation. They just stall out and take forever.

I've tried to go back and do the edl program's qfil command (python ./bin/edl qfil patch0.xml rawprogram_unsparse.xml ~/Downloads/lenovothinksmart/A11/CD-18781Y.200628.084/image) to rewrite the image but it doesn't actually do anything. It claims to patch the image and basically just stops without taking the minutes to do the transfer.

Attempts to use the lineage recovery tool to sideload lineage again don't seem to change the nature of the failure.

Attempts to do a factory reset don't seem to change anything either

[misty hull]

ill be able to check in a bit

[past flame]

🤯

Does it run pretty well?

[misty hull]

no im still fixing things

if there was a vc i would stream development for fun lol

[past flame]

Haha we do have one under community events

[misty hull]

the label scares me

[past flame]

Do you have any thoughts on ways to safely power down or reboot the device?

[misty hull]

ill confer with deadman on that

[past flame]

thank you!

The 15.1 rom seems to be working really well for me so far

[lilac flint]

adb or terminal for the short term I can probably add it to settings as an option in the future. There's also 3rd party power menu apps but I haven't used them before.

You can do "adb reboot" to reboot, "adb reboot -p" should shutdown the device but doesn't seem to work. Optionally you can do this with a terminal app

Not having long press on the power button is a unique thing lol

[humble karma]

#1199440904566620260 message

[lilac flint]

Current rough ideas for settings extensions to utilize/fix the hardware are:

1. Add a keycode selector for mic and camera switches so you can configure what you want them to do easily. Similar to the existing ability to select a custom keycode for extra nav bar buttons.

2. Either manual switch or automatic switching of the virtual mic positions. Stock implements this for better mic quality in portrait or landscape

3. Power menu trigger button

4. Ability to have the mic switch actually work as stock does, I believe there is a way to have it turn off the mic's power circuit.

The mic switch on stock does Keycode 91 (MicMute) for ON and then Keycode 61 (F3) for off which their app would listen for F3 and react accordingly

The camera switch would do Keycode 87 (F11) for ON and then Keycode 62 (F4) for off both of which are handled by their app.

So my thought is to expose On/Off customization for both switches so you could have it only press power in one direction for example

[past flame]

Ahh I think that would be great

[past flame]

And thank you, this should work in the meantime

just as another data point, this morning when i woke it up it looks to have lost its wifi connection

When going to WiFi settings it "searches" but never finds any networks

A reboot likely will fix it for a day but it's an interesting issue

I have seen the issue manifest itself when running the user debug ROM previously as well so maybe it came from there?

[lilac flint]

Do you have multiple views on?

[past flame]

No, just this one

[lilac flint]

Interesting will take a look

In other news, got the basics for the keycode switching working, Turns each one into a power button

starfire:// # echo 116 > /sys/devices/soc/soc:gpio_keys/cam_keycode_on
starfire:// # echo 116 > /sys/devices/soc/soc:gpio_keys/cam_keycode_off
starfire:// # echo 116 > /sys/devices/soc/soc:gpio_keys/mic_keycode_on
starfire:// # echo 116 > /sys/devices/soc/soc:gpio_keys/mic_keycode_off

[past flame]

wow thats awesome!!

[humble karma]

About to try starting over with a qfil from windows to see if I have any luck

[humble karma]

qfil from windows was a good reset. Bummer that edl isn't quite there

What do you people using this as a Home Assistant do for making a clock/search/something dashboard? Do you prevent them from sleeping, etc?

[real trout]

Yeah, in the home assistant app you can set the device to never sleep when the dashboard is displayed. Same if you're using fully kiosk. I've also seen people using fully kiosk to wake the screen up if there's someone nearby (either using the thinksmarts proximity sensor, camera, or a 3rd party presence sensor)

Personally, I just run mine as a photo frame 24/7, and mostly just interact with it via voice commands

[humble karma]

What do you use for a photo frame? I'm looking for something like this

[real trout]

I run it with the app "fotoo"

[humble karma]

Fotoo seems pretty great. Thanks

[humble karma]

Well, I have accidentally busted things by trying to change the MAC. I did the push and the remount and now I'm sitting on a Lenovo logo when booting. Whoops

[lilac flint]

New Lineage-15.1 build

Minor update, contains settings to turn on/off the mic or camera shutter as a power button. Located in Settings > System scroll to the bottom. It defaults to camera shutter being power in either direction to keep parity with recovery.

If your coming from the previous 15.1 build you don't need to wipe just flash the new zip. If you have gapps or any other mods you'll have to reflash those as well..

Download:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m34JjwxukdH8Y5WEUCZuPSiyrQHrI6ke/view?usp=sharing

[winged nova]

mainly using my lenovo for iptv & anime streming. had some streaming issue with stock 8.1, A10 & A11 before i finally tried A9. Found this rom most stable (for streaming) compared to previous rom i tested.

Thanks so much for your contribution.

btw, is there any option/way to remove navigation bar?

[lilac flint]

If there’s not an option under settings > system > buttons then you’ll have to use a prop for it qemu.hw.mainkeys=1

[median yarrow]

If I already have TWRP installed, do I need to install Lineage Recovery Image, or can I just flash from there?

[lilac flint]

Haven't tested it with twrp feel free too

[past flame]

Deadman your new ROM with the button mappings has been running great so far, I haven't seen any wifi disconnects yet but will be on the lookout. I am curious how you would recommend rooting the device, magisk wants to patch a boot.img, would it be best to extract this with qfil?

[past flame]

Well actually was able to sideload the apk through recovery so nevermind 😄 !

[lilac flint]

There's also built in adb root, that you can turn on in development settings

[median yarrow]

Ok, interestingly with TWRP, I can't factory reset... says failed to mount a bunch of things. Maybe I'll have to run it with lineage recovery

[humble karma]

Have you tried fotoo across multiple devices? Right now it seems like the expectation is that I buy it for every single device. That's... not cheap

[median yarrow]

I think it might be since I didn't use the userdebug firmware though, the bootloader is still locked

[real trout]

I purchased the premium features once on my Google account and I can install it on all my devices signed into that account and the premium features are enabled

[humble karma]

Weird. It is asking me to buy premium on a second device after buying on one.

[real trout]

Huh, maybe clear the app cache and see if it still says that?

I did notice that sometimes it took it a minute to switch from non-premium to premium when I installed it on a new device

[lilac flint]

Wonder if the extracted Lenovo one would work

[humble karma]

Good idea

[humble karma]

Fixed. I kinda nuked it from orbit and then tried to buy and it told me I had it. Phew

I hate premium apps like this

I can pay. I don't mind that. But it's so tied to google's store

[real trout]

Yeah, I wish there was something comparable that was open source

[median yarrow]

Flashed mine with this using lineage recovery, been stuck on checking for updates during initial setup, but I skipped it by clicking the back button

[lilac flint]

Yeah that can happen sometimes, I've had it on multiple devices.

[median yarrow]

I'm wondering why the twrp recovery I used gets errors when I factory reset. The only benefit of twrp right now is that it's touchscreen

But a bunch of things don't seem to work properly because of the bootloader being locked I think

[median yarrow]

I can't get the device to rotate to horizontal

[median yarrow]

Oh nvm, just realized the launcher has horizontal disabled

[median yarrow]

You can also use settings > display > expanded desktop

[keen spear]

These are on sale on Woot right now

[humble karma]

Only 27!?

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-hot-sweat-sweaty-nervous-gif-21026685

[real trout]

Ran across these HA photo slideshow integrations, thought you might be interested if you're still having trouble with fotoo and the Google Play store:
https://github.com/Daanoz/ha-google-photos
https://github.com/apop880/photodash

[humble karma]

Have any of you Home Assistant people found a way to play media from something like Music Assistant to a thinksmart?

[median yarrow]

https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/396

Haven't tried it yet, but looks like there's squeezelite or browser mod that makes the tablet a media entity

[safe wind]

hey all, i am trying to get one of these devices for a decent price in the UK. the cheapest i can find it is about £70 and woot/amazon links for $28ish dont ship to the UK

[humble karma]

It looks like if you want to use squeeze lite you have to buy an app to use it. Browser mod might be the way. I'll have to investigate this

[humble karma]

This is the first one seen UK prices discussed here. The woot store seems sold out anyway. Seems like 35-45 USD is to be expected right now

What's eBay like for the UK?

[glossy haven]

For music assistant, the recommended approach was not to use browser mod. 😦 I was trying to use wallpanel xyz and the recommended path was to use snapcast via snapweb. I also tried adding a dlna client but that wasn't cutting it either (extremely laggy). My current approach is using fully kiosk browser and that appears to work like a charm. That, tied with rtpmic for satellite access and you can tell it what to do pretty well and stream media to it successfully.

[humble karma]

I'm kinda lost in this one. So you boot home assistant in the web browser and that has media player functionality?

[glossy haven]

Kinda. Snapcast has a web based version called snapweb via javascript. I didn't want to embed that in the home assistant dashboard so I used fully kiosk browser which has a remote media upload capability that is supported directly by media assistant. There is also a ha service that can remotely configure it for even further functionality.

Media assistant also has a snapcast server built in; if you want to embed snapweb that can work.

If you want I can write up what I've done. I haven't made a cool dashboard that reacts yet (which would use browser mod) to voice requests.

[humble karma]

I'm always curious what everyone is doing

Currently just barely dipping my toes into HA

[humble karma]

So when in Kiosk mode I can see my device is there but it show the devices as idle but not selectable. I'm not sure how to square that

[median yarrow]

For music assistant?

I think you have to hit the weird power icon

I haven't tried the snapcast thing though

[humble karma]

Yeah. Weird power button? I'll take, a look. Currently not trying snapcast

[median yarrow]

It's like a icon, lemme take a screenshot

Then it gets "selected" for me

Not sure why lol

[humble karma]

I don't have the dropdown

[glossy haven]

Have you added a player provider? It should have been right underneath the music provider; assuming using fully kiosk, you'd select fully kiosk and provide your remote management credentials.

[humble karma]

I'm not using fully kiosk. I guess that's a thing I need to look into

[glossy haven]

What kiosk app are you using? Or is it just the browser?

[humble karma]

i just tried the browser/firefox

[humble karma]

When people use Fully Kiosk, what version do you use? Seemt like there are three versions. And do you pay for it?

[fathom patrol]

I use the original "fully kiosk browser" for an HA dashboard, then recently the single app version to run mobileraker. and yeah, paid for the motion detection & remote mgmt from HA

it's pretty easy to transfer the license between devices if you ever need to

[humble karma]

Is Fully Kiosk Browser limited to one machine then?

[fathom patrol]

yeah licensed per device

wallpanel's a potential free option - https://wallpanel.app/

[humble karma]

I have enough thinksmarts that I am not sure I can handle buying multi device

[humble karma]

Well, I can't yet see how to play media through Wallpanel but otherwise it seems pretty nice

[glossy haven]

Only way I could see to play music through the built in webview or a browser was via the snapcast/snapweb integration that required embedding snapweb into the dashboard. :/

For those running Deadman and crew's latest lineage, does anyone have notes about keeping wifi alive? It seems to die off after the device sleeps and only returns upon toggling wifi off and on. Outside of that, it has been working like a charm and very smoothly.

[humble karma]

I have that issue intermittently as well and I don't have a solution. It seems to be far more rare than the old A11 build though

[glossy haven]

Hmm, it has happened every night for me so far. I will try giving it a reflash.

[past flame]

Do you use wall panel by chance?

[chrome relic]

Hello peeps
i'm trying to do the qfil step but with android 11 i found a yt video that had those steps but i keep getting this error

the sahara fail

[humble karma]

If you search this chat I think you'll find some Answers or ideasa

[chrome relic]

i've tried many usb 2 ports and all the cable that i have on hand which all work to charge and data for my phone
redownloaded all the programs and reinstalled and did the restart when needed
tried to be as fast as possible to hit the download button but i still get the dreded sahara button
i can't get dev options because i can't even roll back to older versions that let me enable it
So any help would be much appreciated
my goal for the think smart is to make it my low budget stream deck
i'm using deckboard on my phone and i bought this tablet because it seemed like a nifty solution for me

[humble karma]

Do you have Windows secure boot off?

[chrome relic]

yep

did the reboot and pressed 7 when prompted and everything

and when i'm pressing the volume + and - the screen is booting up for less than a second then the pc does the beep boop that it read it

could this be my issue?

these are it's default settings

even if i'm trying the 0.84 image same problem

And this is it's firmware out of the box

It's a teams unit

I'm surprised it connected to a 5ghz router

[vague plover]

Prices on these are crazy now

[chrome relic]

yep i got mine today for 30 dollars here in lebanon

i thought they were gonna upcharge the hell out of it

[vague plover]

I can’t find one for under 100 Canadian

I meant crazy in a bad way haha

[chrome relic]

ah alright

guess 3rd world living has it's benefits

[vague plover]

Yeah… a dollar goes a lot further if you have money

[chrome relic]

my only problem is i can't seem to be a able to do the work around
gonna leave it to another day i feel like i hit a wall

[vague plover]

Oh dang… yeah sometimes it’s better to take a break and come back later

[median yarrow]

Did you try enabling test driver signing

[chrome relic]

no i haven't even seen this as an option will google how to do it now

[median yarrow]

Open command prompt as admin and run this

bcdedit /set testsigning on

Then restart your computer

You should see test signing in the bottom right

Then try it 🙂

[chrome relic]

An error has occurred setting the element data.
The value is protected by Secure Boot policy and cannot be modified or deleted.

[median yarrow]

Did you run command prompt as admin?

[chrome relic]

i opened cmd as admin

yep from the windows menu when i typed cmd i clicked run as admin

[median yarrow]

Intruiging

[median yarrow]

Well uh, I dunno what this secure boot that's preventing you from doing it is

But after I run the command and get it to work, it works

[chrome relic]

windows secure boot is off

or should be at least

[median yarrow]

Do you have some group policy enforced

[chrome relic]

i don't even know where to check

i'm still new to this stuff

[median yarrow]

Maybe just Google your error code

[chrome relic]

alrighty will do and report back

[median yarrow]

Try to go disable secure boot in bios (or at least confirm it's disabled)

[chrome relic]

i didn't do it in bios before

i did it from here before

in the advanced start up

will try in the bios now

It was still on in the bios

Will turn off now

[chrome relic]

it's working now

[median yarrow]

Cool

Now try it again

[chrome relic]

yep worked

[median yarrow]

Sweet

[chrome relic]

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

https://tenor.com/view/boy-math-school-asia-study-gif-18879119

instill your knowledge in me

[median yarrow]

Lol

You can disable it now that you're done

Or leave it on if you don't care about the watermark

[chrome relic]

nah gonna take back the system to default when i finish

[misty hull]

erm

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/software/windows/Qualcomm/QUD/QUD.1.00.76.Windows-AnyCPU_patched.zip

these should be signed

[chrome relic]

welp the navigation bar is loaded

now i just want to add the play store

[humble karma]

What build are you loading?

[chrome relic]

i loaded the 0.84

[humble karma]

The latest pin here shouldn't need you to load a status bar #1199440904566620260 message

[chrome relic]

navigation bar was easy i'm now reading the wiki to add the playstore on it

or i am missing a step?

[humble karma]

It sounds like you're following the retro tech dad guide which is kinda dated and you'll wind up with an old build

But if It works for you that's ok

[chrome relic]

if this one you linked is better i will do that one

i don't mind

since the hurdle has passed

will playstore work easily on this version you linked me?

because the app i want to download is paid for so i can't just get an apk for it

[humble karma]

It's an adb side load in either case I think

But I thought it was easier on the recent build

[chrome relic]

i used the toolkit

it was easy to put the apks for home screen and navigation buttons

Let's see if this image works

[chrome relic]

This is how the app should look like on the tablet but it's not working for some reason

It's only a black screen

[humble karma]

Everyone needs a Septic Flesh button

It might be the app doesn't work with that version of Android

Or the way it's very pared down

[chrome relic]

gonna see if i need to edit the text size maybe it helps

gonna finish the updates on it

maybe because all the google things haven't finished updating

[humble karma]

The font scaling can be weird

[chrome relic]

after the update finished and put the font on the smallest size it worked

[chrome relic]

And needed to turn off auto reconnect wifi because the image I used will get stuck when It tries to auto reconnect

[chrome relic]

Thanks again @humble karma and @median yarrow for your guys help

and taking time from your day to help me

[median yarrow]

No problem 🙂

Which build did you end up using?

[chrome relic]

android 11 build

[chrome relic]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thank-you-sensei-thanks-gif-13277159

[chrome relic]

do i need to be running this lineage build so i can make the cam button to be a power button or can i add the commands on any build
i'm running an android 11 build from a different yt video

[median yarrow]

Deadman added the feature, so probably this one

[real trout]

There is an A11 build with the cam shutter as power button, I'll see if I can find it, but honestly just switch to lineage, you can still access play store and it's more stable overall

The only downside might be if you're using it for wakeword/home automation, cause I'm not positive if the lineage build can handle multiple apps accessing the mic simultaneously

#1199440904566620260 message

Here you go, it was in the pinned messages, you can also check there for a link to an A10 GSI system image that can be flashed on top of the A11 build, it's slightly more stable and the recents button works

[minor wolf]

Hey all. Have one of these and was thinking of setting it up. For those who have done this already, is there an ultimate guide I should follow?

[stuck fossil]

Here's a guide for Lineage 15.1, https://github.com/pgale/lineage_15.1_Installation_TSV

[brittle zealot]

any fix for this

[brittle zealot]

ive tried everything it wont boot period

[humble karma]

Go back to a teams build and try again from scratch

[brittle zealot]

it goes to the lineage logo

but nothing more

[humble karma]

#1199440904566620260 message

[brittle zealot]

Okay

[brittle zealot]

Does it matter which

[humble karma]

Any one with debug support

[brittle zealot]

that worked

I personally think the mute switch should be the power button

not the camera shutter

[misty hull]

nice

[brittle zealot]

I do prefer AOSP over lineage OS

but ill take what I can get

however it is very good so far

[misty hull]

[brittle zealot]

the device hangs every once and a while when I try to do anything from the sell

shell*

[brittle zealot]

I am trying to remove something under system

I have root from magisk

it is just hangining and not doing anything

[misty hull]

[brittle zealot]

now it wont evem download

nvm there we go

good work on getting that to work however the command line causing crashes is a dealbreaker for me

[misty hull]

np

[glossy haven]

I did use wallpanel, but couldn't get media sent to it working correctly so I moved over to using fully kiosk.

[chrome relic]

turns out the android 11 image i have loaded already had the camera switch to be the screen wake or sleep

[brittle zealot]

has anyone been able to successfully change the boot logo

[median yarrow]

Like the boot up logo?

I think some people in the home assistant community have done it

[brittle zealot]

I followed their instructions and it doesnt work

[humble karma]

Setting up thinksmart number 5

[brittle zealot]

@misty hull have you been able to change the boot logo

[misty hull]

Didn't try

[ashen oxide]

I'm in Sahara hell and am preparing a detailed question/log, but first -

mine has Firmware: CD-18781Y.210507.111 and in normal boot, tapping the Firmware button fails to activate or verify Developer Mode.

... Any thoughts please? thanks

ADB "adb devices" yields an empty "list of devices attached"

I've addressed all common factors I could find mentioned here or on XDA

[median yarrow]

Did you spam it like 8 times?

Granted, you don't really need to do any of that if you're trying to flash the lineageOS build

To best Sahara hell, make sure you enable driver signing first on your PC and restart your computer

[ashen oxide]

thanks for the reply. I have not tried spamming it multiple times as I've restarted the device for each new attempt. I'll give that a shot.
Haven't decided what OS to run yet.
Have tried multiple times with and without driver signing. Last night I backed up the C: drive and converted W10 from MBR to GPT with no improvement 🤕

I looked at both Deadman's and your thread on XDA and just started following yours as it consolidates from several sources. Thanks for your time with this too BTW.

[median yarrow]

Ah yeah, you need to spam it like 8-10 times

I would recommend using deadman's new lineageOS build then, super easy to do as long as you can get past the Sahara issue

[ashen oxide]

i'm starting to feel like crossing the actual Sahara would be easier :p

[median yarrow]

Lmao

I can help

Open command prompt as admin, and run this command first:

bcdedit /set testsigning on

Then restart your computer

And you should see a "test mode" thing in the bottom right of your desktop

[ashen oxide]

ok i've been there before but not with the spam strategy. will do.

[median yarrow]

Uh, don't do that for now lol

This is a different thing lol, I think it's better than the thing I did in my guide

Like, different android build if you may

Here's Deadman's guide for the new build he released: #1199440904566620260 message

And this is the latest build: #1199440904566620260 message

[median yarrow]

And to avoid the Sahara error, just make sure you have done this ahead of time. Once you boot it into EDL mode using both volume keys and plugging the device in, you should be able to flash the device without error.

[ashen oxide]

ok i'm in test mode now so i'll read the info for Lineage 15.1, thanks bunches

will spam it a few times while i read

oh this targets the specific partition for recovery

[fathom haven]

Maybe hold off on spamming anything since there's been a miscommunication about what to spam 😛

[ashen oxide]

fair

is it notable that in settings, tapping the firmware description 7+ times doesn't enable or verify developer mode?

v. 210507.111

[chrome relic]

when i was stuck in the sahara my fix was i need to turn off secure boot from the bios of my pc's motherboard

[ashen oxide]

hey i saw your posts. congrats btw :p
yeah my MB is configured as such:

and Secure Boot verified off in OS:

[chrome relic]

firstly thanks and hope you will see the oasis soon from that darn sahara
some peeps also suggested to use a 2.0 usb port and boot into edl mode when you put the command that Chewie has put for you aswell and check for the bottom right of your screen and there should be a water mark that will confirm for you that it ha s been done

[ashen oxide]

yeah i'm using a 2.0 USB port directly off of the MB. Got the test mode active too. Have tried 3 different USB-A/USB-C cables and a couple different firmware versions

i am clicking "Download" in QFIL within a nanosecond of it coming on

[chrome relic]

well honestly after all this i think i lucked out i installed a android 11 firmware
then saw about linage os and tried to install it and it never worked again so i stopped so i don't push my luck

i'm sorry that i couldn't help you

[ashen oxide]

haha no worries

[chrome relic]

when i was trying to install lineage os that the ADB software wasn't reading it anymore so i stopped to try at a later date because i just recently got out of the sahara and troubleshooting hell

[ashen oxide]

yeah i can only bang my head against the wall so much. My friend ordered one of these for himself too and successfully did his right away so I'll prob go to his place tonight and try to use his PC to flash mine

[chrome relic]

there could be a goblin that has gotten into your pc

[misty hull]

what do you guys wanna see next

[ashen oxide]

that would almost be a relief

[chrome relic]

can it run crysis

[misty hull]

i was thinking more like

maybe a10

but perhaps we dont rlly need it?

[chrome relic]

since 11 and lineage are working i don't think it's needed
but i how would i know
maybe someone has a niche use case that they need an older build of android to run an old app

[ashen oxide]

i could go for a self-destruct button

[misty hull]

back into the closet it goes then

[ashen oxide]

trying to figure out the "unable to read packet header" issue

[sweet pollen]

I've come to join the party

[swift mango]

what are you planning on doing with all of them?

[fathom haven]

mainline kernel prox sensor and camera driver 😛

[misty hull]

Mainline?

I'm an android system eng xd I don't do mainline

[misty hull]

Wow nice

[fathom haven]

lol yeah I figured as much

[sweet pollen]

Home assistant interfaces throughout the house

I would like to see about trying to get them to act as like a Google home and be able to add them to an audio group because the speakers are pretty good

[soft garnet]

I just unboxed my thinkview and its bigger than I thought

[soft garnet]

it'd be a dream if HA Assist could work with it

Can I install android 11 on this?

[sweet pollen]

It works I haven't tried the roms here but the one on HA forums where I found this at works. It does crash sometimes so I plan on flashing it to a new rom soon.

[soft garnet]

what rom?

[soft garnet]

i read online android 11 is unstable and since i only need it for HA, i might just use android 8.1

[sweet pollen]

I'm using 8.1 I believe I'll get you the link to the forum thread

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/is-this-the-perfect-standalone-tablet-for-ha/658422

[ashen oxide]

Instantly flashed mine on my friend's PC. My rig must be cursed

[burnt kite]

This is the guide I used for Lineage (sorry if already posted here): https://github.com/pgale/lineage_15.1_Installation_TSV

[soft garnet]

I am getting the sahara error

It says could not connect to \ COM8

[burnt kite]

In the QFIL App? Did you run qfil as admin?

[burnt kite]

I would love an Android TV build. These boxes would be great little media players. Lineage OS Android TV build supports cast receiving.

[ashen oxide]

some stuff I checked / worked for others:

• use USB2 not USB3
• click DOWNLOAD quickly in QFIL when port is selected
• Driver sigining off / Test Mode on
• Secure Boot disabled
• quality USB cable - try more than 1

[soft garnet]

Will try this.

I have secure boot disabled and pressing download quickly and after a minute it hits me with sahara.
Ofc using usb 2 port.

I am gonna try again tomorrow this time on a very old laptop

[median yarrow]

Make sure you also have test mode on

[ashen oxide]

flashed mine at my friends no problem. my PC is still wack. ADB / FB++ recognizes it when I run "adb devices" but trying to use QFIL / TOOLS still hits me with the Sahara error

[sweet pollen]

Would be perfect as long as AndroidTV supports HASS

[soft garnet]

I have booted into lineage successfully

thank you

[ashen oxide]

do mine next lol

GJ

[soft garnet]

sure

[pastel veldt]

I had to pick one up. This thing is like a modern Chumby

[opaque girder]

kicking myself for not picking up more during the woot sale. Didn't have funds then. Now I do. sigh

[burnt kite]

They are about $40 on Amazon and eBay. Not as cheap but still good value. One eBay seller had a discount if you buy multiple.

[opaque girder]

yeah, that's where I bought my first one. I'm sure I'll pick up a couple more soon.

[burnt kite]

I’m with you though. They are great and I should have picked up a few more. Lot of value for the money.

[sweet pollen]

Bought 8 and have only really found 6-7 places for them lol

Thinking about 3D printing a flush wall mount because they would fit in the drywall they just need a funky mount but hey no spicy pillows to worry about!

[left lotus]

On Woot now for $27.99.

@burnt kite

@opaque girder

[sweet pollen]

Again?!

[left lotus]

Just got the notification.

[sweet pollen]

Only through the app though

[left lotus]

Yep, seems to be...

[sweet pollen]

Next question is... do I need any more?

[burnt kite]

Yes

[burnt kite]

Ordered another two.

[sweet pollen]

Yeah... same >.<

[opaque girder]

SAME

[opaque girder]

honestly though, my kids will freaking love these. Plex, PlexAmp (music), audio books, weather. If we can get voice activation working and/or internal house calling, it'll be awesome.

[burnt kite]

New set arrived today. Time to ROM.

[atomic ether]

just dusted off QFIL to check out the current state of things on the custom ROMS. I've had the cleaned up version of the stock rom running on both and my wife's desk tablets for like 5 months now but the wifi is unstable. just got @lilac flint's latest lineageOS build. You and @misty hull really have done some fantastic work. gonna start using it as my primary desk tablet for homeassistant and see how it goes.

[sweet pollen]

Finally got around to changing the flash over to the lineage ones you guys made and so much better so far

[pastel veldt]

I am just running stock with minimal changes, following Retro Tech Dads video. Made this device the perfect spotify kiosk on top of my stereo. Not bad at all! Only took 12 or so minutes

[calm summit]

I wanted to turn this thing into a digital photo frame for my grandma, but I may have overlooked the whole “doesn’t have any storage” thing… Anyone know of any digital photo slideshow streaming apps I can run instead? Lol

Oshit Fotoo looks like it’s exactly the thing I need

[sweet pollen]

Use Photos from Google

Cloud storage syncs with phone

[calm summit]

Yeah but it’s kinda gotta be a set it and forget it type of thing. This woman is like 85, I don’t think she’ll even be swiping, just kind of looking at it

[sweet pollen]

Pretty sure you can set it as like the lock screen as well so once its setup its sit it and forget it.

All my home TVs and Google Displays use Google Photos as the standby screen

[calm summit]

Hell yeah that’s what I’m lookin for. Unfortunately my attempts to flash this device have been unsuccessful so far

[sweet pollen]

Yeah I had a hell of a time, I used a prebuilt linux iso to finally get the first flash done.

[real trout]

Yeah the sahara error is a PITA to get past, I assume you've gotten the recommended driver's and tried disabling driver signing, and you have probably tried a few different usb cables and are using usb 2.0 ports?

I can say I've got 3 of these around my house as digital photo frames and they're pretty solid, though I have had to reboot them every few months, not sure how often you visit your grandma but I wouldn't expect them to run for a year without crashing

[burnt kite]

Lenovo ThinkSmart View for Microsoft Teams - $27.99 - Free shipping for Prime members https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinksmart-view-for-microsoft-teams-4?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

Back in stock.

[swift mango]

hey guys anyone had luck using this thing and downloaded the ring camera app

and use it as a security camera monitor

[sweet pollen]

Yeah I have 10 of them I use them as home assistant interfaces around the house

[swift mango]

That’s so cool

[swift mango]

Hello. If I want to turn this into a shmup station, is it best to use Lineage-15.1 build and then install fbneo or mame or whatever is out there with a BT controller? Has anyone figured out how to use external storage via OTG?

[keen spear]

Prime Meier’s, these are on Woot again today for $27.99 Lenovo ThinkSmart View for Microsoft Teams - $27.99 - Free shipping for Prime members https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinksmart-view-for-microsoft-teams-4?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

[swift mango]

I don’t have an android to enable screen reader for the view device. Anyone know a work around

[cinder thunder]

anyone else find the squid in the lineage settings?

[raw hazel]

hey all, anyone getting a warning about Bluetooth stopping randomly on the latest lineageos 15 build?

[raw hazel]

btw, if anyone wants magisk/root with the latest Deadman lineage 15.1 build (20240602, from #1199440904566620260 message)

You can either replace the boot.img in the zip with this one (after renaming this one to boot.img), or flash this boot.img in QFIL's partition manager after flashing lineage

[mossy crow]

Anyone seen these cheap in the UK?

[pastel veldt]

Can't watch H.265 on the stock rom, would lineage do any better?

[pastel veldt]

Seems like lineage does include fallback drivers. Might just stick with VLC though.

[opaque girder]

What are you playing video from? I've used the plex client (which transcodes on my server) perfectly.

[next mural]

Nope

[mossy crow]

😭

[cedar turret]

followed the steps in https://github.com/dinki/View-Assist/discussions/5 and im in android but it refuses to connect to any wifi. then i attepted to fash the build from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7CMizEOT-0 and now it just shows a lenovo logo forever. have i bricked the device? or is there something i can do

And if I just scrap both and pivot to lineagos, is what I’ve done so far going to screw that up?

[median yarrow]

Probably not

I'd just pivot to lineageos lol

[cedar turret]

Alright I’ll try that

[cedar turret]

Did that and I’m up and running, so thank you. Screen rotation doesn’t work for some reason, but other than that, things are good to go

[median yarrow]

Screen orientation should work, you just might need to enable it for the launcher specifically

Otherwise, it should still work in other apps like YouTube

[cedar turret]

https://github.com/pgale/lineage_15.1_Installation_TSV I followed this guide, I even did the part where it has you toggle the auto rotate setting. Doesn’t seem to change anything. I’ll have to take a look tomorrow to see if manual rotation in stuff like YouTube still works

[candid arrow]

Thank you to everyone who has taken their time to put the github instructions together. I followed them tonight and in about 20 mins I had the device flashed and up and running.. tried some music and the speakers arent too bad... then I tried some gaming and everything worked with no issues. I dowloaded retro arc and tried out a few games. Will do more tomorrow. I cannot thank the team enough for making this the best $27 device you can buy

[median yarrow]

Nah, I'm talking about in the launcher settings

[cedar turret]

This?

[median yarrow]

No

Go home and hold somewhere blank on your wallpaper

And click launcher settings

[cedar turret]

Ahh okay, makes sense. I’m out right now but I’ll do that when I get home

[cedar turret]

Got it, thank you! Any good guides to get retroarch and MAME going?

[median yarrow]

I have no clue about any of that lol

I'm just a random guy from XDA

Speaking of, I should update that guide lol, deadman's 8.1 build is better than my rooted one

[merry jetty]

I just installed this on both of my devices. Brilliant upgrade from the old android 8 setup I had going. Kudos to the guidemakers

[misty hull]

😌

[merry plank]

I've noticed that because the screen on this device isn't perpendicular to the horizontal plane, the OS may sometimes fail to register device rotation, especially when you rotate the device in the air. In such cases, tilting the device slightly towards you to make the screen perpendicular to the horizontal plane resolves the issue. And for the home screen, you need to enable rotation separately in the Home Settings as mentioned earlier.

[candid arrow]

its back https://computers.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinksmart-view-for-microsoft-teams-5?ref=w_gw_dd_4

[merry jetty]

What am I doing wrong that tap to wake is enabled but I'm still having to use the camera shutter

[burnt kite]

Yet again in stock:

https://sellout.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinksmart-view-for-microsoft-teams-6

[cinder thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ice-water-i-dont-need-it-gif-14272849

[obtuse moss]

Yup. I got one. Yup I ran into all the issues with Sahara stuff. Yup I got around it. Yes I got it running retro off of F Droid. Now it's got great potential to provide smack down at the coffee station.

Looking for guidance on getting Varcade set up on it. Any start would be helpful. 🙂

Also this thing is very professionally built. I didn't realize it the 5th lenovo product in my house. A great product...not at the original price though lol

[reef sage]

Anyone know which version of Max this requires? The app installs but video and audio do not playback on Lineage. The video progress bar chugs right along but the main interface is stuck at a spinning circle

[cedar turret]

i am also curious about this, because my tap to wake also does not work. i installed this app to wake the device on camera motion sensing and so far so good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bk.appz.yakk&hl=en_US&pli=1

anyone able to get google assistant working on this device? i want it to replace a malfunctioning google home hub but assistant wont work on lineageOS

[stark prairie]

Anyone see any for a decent price out there? Regretting not picking up a second one, lol.

[opaque girder]

I've got 4, 3 NIB. Want one?

[candid arrow]

Ever since woot got their hands on a bunch and sold out I havent seen any stock anywhere... I think the last batch woot had was back in August

[stark prairie]

I'll send you a DM

[light heron]

@opaque girder do you still have some spare?

[stark prairie]

Ah, damn. Think I borked a flash and now it's just stuck in EDL.

[stark prairie]

Fixed ... had QFIL set in ufs, needed to be emmc.

[quick sapphire]

I finally did the @sweet wren instructions for this and got YouTube, Spotify, Twitch, Plex all working on this thing. Work is going to be real interesting when im "working" and watching anything I want on the side.

[next mural]

Nicee

[stark prairie]

Love these things. Both of the ones I own have Android 10 (full Gapps). The one at home is used by my kids for podcasts, and this one at work I have connected to my home network over wireguard VPN so I can access my audiobookshelf server for podcasts/audiobooks. Also use this one at work for Microsoft To-Do. Not gaming on them but they are really excellent devices. 🙂

[reef sage]

Where did you pull the Android 10 rom from?

[stark prairie]

https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v222

arm-aonly-gapps -- it'll fit and has full google apps but you don't have much free space available, so keep that in mind.

could probably uninstall some of the google apps via adb to clear up some space, but it's pretty tight.

[limber arch]

Just wanna ask for an update on how the device is going now?

[stark prairie]

Still in my office -- runs wireguard to connect to my home network to access Audiobookshelf, and I also use it for Youtube Music and Microsoft To-Do. No issues.

[cedar turret]

Maybe I gotta plug mine back in and give it another go, I tried using it to replace a Google home hub that’s been making me mad recently, but after about 2-3 weeks I swapped them back. Couldn’t really use it well as a Google home / assistant device because it will only listen to one voice model (so either me or my gf, never both), tried to use it as an endpoint for Spotify but I can’t figure out how to change its name in the Spotify app so i can’t just tell one of my other Google devices to “play music on X room display”, and I tried as a home assistant dashboard but every 2 or 3 days the always or wake/sleep feature in Fully Kiosk Browser would stop working, the screen would be back, and nothing I did other than unplugging it would get it usable again. I want to like it, but it was a constant headache for me :/

[stark prairie]

I gave up on it as a replacement for a Google Home. At the house, I have another one running Android 11 with goapps (I think) and it's the "podcast machine". I've got podcast set up on it and the kids can pick something to listen to it they want. It's got good speakers but they can also cast it to a Google Home in another room if they want. I was really hoping it would work with Google Assistant, though, but that's asking a lot for what's under the hood I guess.