Lenovo ThinkSmart View

[sweet wren]

under system right?

[long reef]

yep right click system manage partition.. click load, select your system image

wait for it to finish, exit partition manager, should auto reboot

[sweet wren]

Yea, did that

I'm doing it again

[long reef]

and you previously turned on oem unlocking?

in android developer settings

[sweet wren]

Yea, I'm going through the steps again 😅

[long reef]

ok just checking

[sweet wren]

Just got back into the debug so I'm gonna through it again

mmm I got this error

and it looks like I'm hanging on the Lenovo boot

oh I'm an idiot

I know why

🤣

I flashed the wrong firmware

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-gif-22205159

[sweet wren]

I blame it on the barrel plug

https://tenor.com/view/barrel-roll-panda-barrelroll-funny-gif-4935160

[long reef]

Barely squeaking by on some ps1

[sweet wren]

Duckstation? I was able to do 2x on some games that I've tested so far

[long reef]

Yeah. It runs 2x sometimes but GT might be harder

[sweet wren]

Performance is kind of weird, things that I'd expect to do ok aren't

Have you tried Dreamcast?

[raven pagoda]

Do you have root access?

[long reef]

so far just ds, psp, ps1

[long reef]

yessir

[raven pagoda]

Can maybe override some governor setting for cpu/gpu/mem clocks

[sweet wren]

stop talking dirty to me Gamma

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-baby-gif-18779448

[long reef]

2X ok here with less cars on screen

[raven pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/djkhaled-jello-gif-4905353

[sweet wren]

🤣

[raven pagoda]

Can someone with root access run the following command?

find /sys/ -name governor

And paste the output here?

Needs to be run after the su command

[sweet wren]

still getting the password prompt

thsi is weird

[long reef]

/sys/devices/soc/soc:qcom,cpubw/devfreq/soc:qcom,cpubw/governor
/sys/devices/soc/soc:qcom,gpubw/devfreq/soc:qcom,gpubw/governor
/sys/devices/soc/soc:qcom,kgsl-busmon/devfreq/soc:qcom,kgsl-busmon/governor
/sys/devices/soc/1c00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/devfreq/1c00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/governor
/sys/devices/soc/soc:devfreq_spdm_cpu/devfreq/soc:devfreq_spdm_cpu/governor
/sys/devices/soc/soc:qcom,mincpubw/devfreq/soc:qcom,mincpubw/governor
/sys/firmware/devicetree/base/soc/qcom,mincpubw/governor
/sys/firmware/devicetree/base/soc/qcom,cpubw/governor
/sys/firmware/devicetree/base/soc/qcom,gpubw/governor```

[long reef]

screenshot?

[lilac flint]

Normally that happens if userdata didn't get wiped and it's using the old encryption key which is gone

[sweet wren]

I think that's what's going on here

[lilac flint]

It's interactive

[lilac flint]

Try fastboot -w

[lilac flint]

Power save, userspace, on demand, interactive, conservative are what's available

Performance will require a custom kernel that turns it on

[long reef]

not quite hanging here

[raven pagoda]

We can use userspace and define the max clocks ourselves

[sweet wren]

Yea, DC performance was not good when I tested

[lilac flint]

Too much effort

[raven pagoda]

Question is which one is gpu and which one and memfreq

[raven pagoda]

It's 2 echo statements?

[lilac flint]

Userspace isn't as reactive

[raven pagoda]

Userspace isn't supposed to be reactive

Its a fixed freq

We just set whatever that will be

[lilac flint]

You can work on that

[raven pagoda]

Same impact as performance governor

I don't have a unit

Ok no problem

Someone else can take a look I suppose

[lilac flint]

I'd rather do it via kernel the qcom way

[raven pagoda]

Interactive is a crappy governor generally

[lilac flint]

Not arguing that

[raven pagoda]

Anyway, it would of have been interesting to see what setting the max clock on memfreq, gpu and cpu would do for performance. Even if it is just temporarily for testing using the userspace governor and setting the freq.

[long reef]

cpu float shows 8 cores at 1.8

[lilac flint]

Plenty of people with units can try

[long reef]

gpu around 216

temps are 34/39 so not bad

adreno 506 should be up to 650mhz tho?

assuming that means it cpu bound

(this is in dreamcast)

[lilac flint]

https://xdaforums.com/t/darkgpu-adreno-506.4565525/

May be worth a try and or seeing what it's doing

[long reef]

I'll yolo it

[stark prairie]

@long reef So unlock bootloader, flash debug FW with QFIL, reboot, back in QFIL replace the system partition with the AOSP 11 image, reboot, and done?

[long reef]

pretty much, then if you want wifi you need to push the three files and reboot

you might need to wipe after as @sweet wren had some password issues. but I never experienced that.

[long reef]

WELP.

I think that's a fail. now keeps dropping into fastboot after trying to boot

there goes this ~~morning's ~~ day's work

lol

[sweet wren]

Can I wipe userdata from partition manager?

[long reef]

not sure, I tried that once and I'm not sure it went over well

lol

but I've been doing so many different things not sure if that was the problem at that point

[sweet wren]

Yea, once I get this down then I will be testing step by step to make the process easier for the video

[full grove]

pretty interesting see developments for this device over the past week

I got mine recently. just flashed older firmware without root. I've been pretty busy with work so I've just been watching from the sidelines

[long reef]

@lilac flint what do we need to do to make those wifi files flashable for ease of use

for those wanting to add wifi (this assumes you are in the directory with the 3 files):

adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/etc
mkdir -p firmware/wlan/qca_cld
exit (exit shell)
adb push ice40.bin system/etc/firmware
adb push WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini system/etc/firmware/wlan/qca_cld
adb push wlan_mac.bin system/etc/firmware/wlan/qca_cld
adb reboot```

i could probably clean that up a bit, but yeah

I'm back up and running, it's pretty quick now that I've figured out the steps

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-dance-naked-gif-4302459

[sweet wren]

so I noticed that it started to run an encryption process, so I flashed the debug firmware again and then wiped userdata, and then loaded the AOSP11 img

This way it didn't have a chance to run whatever the heck it was doing

[long reef]

that's normal on the debug fw

but you don't even need to get that far

you can download the fw, unplug, plug back in while holding vol-&+

[next mural]

Jeez

[sweet wren]

Yea, now I know that there's no need to launch into the debug FW

[sweet wren]

Exactly the issue I had

[lilac flint]

A smart plug makes the process a lot nicer just press a button on the phone or computer

[long reef]

Although first time flashers (lol) may need to let it boot all the way and turn on oem unlocking? I'm not sure without a virgin device to test.

[lilac flint]

You can flash with edl out of the box

(I tested it a few days ago)

[sweet wren]

We should have some virgins in here or will have some more soon

[next mural]

Say it again

[long reef]

I like how I'm doing all this tinkering to get subpar performance in some emulators when my Y700 tablet is sitting right over there...

[atomic ether]

I have another coming in a few days, If needed I can try flashing via QFIL on an out of the box device if nobody has tried it by then

[sweet wren]

It's for the thrill

[next mural]

Why is that lawl

[sweet wren]

I know some people are planning on buying it

[next mural]

@upper totem @devout cradle win6 owners like..m

[next mural]

Like within the community

[long reef]

Well, I think that's my conributions for the day, folks. Won't have as much time the next couple days

[next mural]

I hassle Sony into getting one everyday

He will scoop one too eventually

[long reef]

I look forward to @lilac flint 's fix for power button in some sort of easy to add way

[sweet wren]

Yea like Stubbs and Mikhailov (TeamRetrogue)

[next mural]

Mr stubbs will get after you launch step by step tutorial

Or ship yours

[sweet wren]

I guess the question I have is, what's better for viewer

the older 8.1 method

or this newer 11 build

[real trout]

Lol, I know, could do it in my sleep now

[long reef]

The wifi fix is really the only hangup. I think the AOSP 11 is much better QoL otherwise

[next mural]

Easier is what we had setup first week when was just me and you

[sweet wren]

given the use case, they can do mostly the same thing with that 8.1

[long reef]

Yeah, but no top bar and nav bar is lame

and the nav bar apk is mid

[sweet wren]

Agreed

[next mural]

But this is v minor

Especially since stationary

[sweet wren]

I got used to it but yea it's not the best

[next mural]

[next mural]

Same

was worse for my bc I don't even use gestures on my phone

Still use the classic three button

[long reef]

Also waking the device backup on AOSP11 is still wonky

so there's that

[sweet wren]

I noticed that lol

like immediately

[long reef]

I think soon we will have customizations to make aosp more worth it

[sweet wren]

Ok, so 8.1 it still is I think

[next mural]

Time for a burn in test

[sweet wren]

people can sign up for the AP class here on RH if they want to mess with 11

[long reef]

or lineage working if gamma and deadman can figure that out

[next mural]

Turn off screen timeout

Indefinitely

[long reef]

you can replug usb or use "adb shell input keyevent KEYCODE_WAKEUP"

[sweet wren]

"I LEFT MY THINKSMART VIEW ON FOR A DECADE"

title of my next video

[next mural]

Screen lag problem on wake fixed

[long reef]

WULFF DEN and PHAWX we're coming for you!

[lilac flint]

I am adding the wifi driver to the kernel atm, hopefully they didn't make big changes

[next mural]

A11 supreme

[next mural]

Just waiting for 3.2 GHz we must 1 up the a1 fella

Even if it's .1 ghz

We cannot lose to a dinky cell phone

When the tab has way more space to dissipate heat

[long reef]

You’re insane

lol

[next mural]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/s/ae64ux0WlT

not so much

Issa real phenomenon

At 60 degrees even

[long reef]

How much caffeine and sugar do you intake haha

[next mural]

All of it was needed to get this going

[sweet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/drug-free-gif-23914607

[next mural]

Like actually

[sweet wren]

[upper totem]

by gallons or liters?

[long reef]

Metric fucktons

[next mural]

seismic levels onlyyyy

[sweet wren]

https://tenor.com/view/sugar-rush-wooooh-excitied-gif-22517675

[devout cradle]

What it feels like to chew 5 gum

[lilac flint]

Well first attempt at the wifi driver doesn't work, will continue more on it tommorow

[stark prairie]

well, i had no luck with this. tried to start from the beginning with the 201006.099 firmware, then flashed the debug firmware, then used partition manager to replace the android 11 system file, twrp, and boot image. was stuck in bootloader ... ended up going back to 201006.099 and using the method that @next mural and the XDA forums had except i pulled the boot.img file from the 201006.099 archive and used magisk app after sideloading it to patch it ... all the boot.img files provided here would just not work for me.

then did fastboot to flash that boot.img

now i'm following xda instructions for setting up google stuff. gonna stick with 8.1 for now.

this softkeys app is really helpful, though: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/tw.com.daxia.virtualsoftkeys/

no weird settings to change, just install the app and you get back, home, open apps.

[sweet wren]

@lilac flint can I collect the specific files for the setup portion of my video into one zip file to make it easier for the viewer?

I'd rather ask since I don't want to take away from your excellent XDA thread. Just trying to collect everything to make it easier instead of having to hop around and get the files needed.

I will still mention the XDA threads (& HA thread) and link to them in case they want to do further reading or experimenting

[long reef]

Did you try without doing anything to recovery or boot? Just flash debug firmware, then flash system and reboot

[stark prairie]

you know what, i did not.

i wonder if that might have worked.

well, i can try, now that i know this works at least.

at one point in my many flashes and reboots i saw a splash image of donald duck and his nephews. let it sit for 5 mins and nothing happened.

[sweet wren]

Yea, you can always fall back easily to the 8.1 build which is nice

[long reef]

That’s what you should see booting into the gsi image

You could also try doing a wipe in fastboot after the flash if you keep getting stuck there

[stark prairie]

fastboot -w?

[long reef]

Yeah. It is a fairly slow boot but I don’t remember exactly how long

[stark prairie]

well, if it comes up again i'll let it just go a bit longer.

using QFIL to flash 11 vanilla now, nothing else.

got ducks.

ayyy there it is

[long reef]

For magisk what I did is use magisk app on the device to patch the boot.img from the debug firmware and then flashed it via qfil partition manager, then did a wipe. So I would do that firt before you set other stuff up if you want it since a wipe is needed

[stark prairie]

working on that now

then wifi after?

[long reef]

Yeah

I mean it probably doesn’t matter since I don’t think system will be affected by wipe

But to be sure

[stark prairie]

alright, got ducks again. waiting it out.

[rough eagle]

Enjoy your pantless ducks

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-peek-a-boo-disney-gif-14131681

[stark prairie]

stuck on ducks here. 😕

logcat showed repeating a crash loop, looks like audio issues? gonna try and boot without the usb-c ... not sure if i had it plugged in for that first boot or not.

just really doesn't like me replacing that boot image. lol

[rough eagle]

Who's got the oldest View? So far I've only done the steps on my 20210322 unit

[next mural]

one offum on a diet

No wonder 🤔 only one flashed

must be missing the necessary bit

[rough eagle]

Yeah the change from grams to kilograms is odd

[long reef]

You might win for oldest

Mine is 21/3

[sweet wren]

Mine is 21/12

it might be one of the neweest

2020? that's wild

[hidden dune]

It's sweet in a way.

That things just been sitting in a warehouse for 4 years.

Only to be bought by a bunch of people that are suddenly crazy for it 😄

[atomic ether]

I think the main reason we are crazy for it is three-fold. first, it is a pretty good tablet with no battery, no spicy pillows from it being plugged in for years, second it is roughly the cost of a case of beer, third is that it seems to be pretty un-brickable with QFIL able to recover even the dumbest of blunders. I could be wrong, but I don't know if anyone has managed to brick one yet in a way QFIL couldn't recover.

and it's not super locked down to only booting the intended images

[hidden dune]

I think it's a great deal.

If I could get it at $60 I would probably get a few of them.

UK the cheapest I can find is the equivalent of $110 😞

[carmine apex]

[rough eagle]

By 3 days. I guess I'll settle for second place 🥈

But mine is lighter than yours so still #1 in that category!

[carmine apex]

https://tenor.com/view/first-funny-willferrell-last-gif-5046811

[quaint marsh]

Make sure y'all are wearing proper PPE when tinkering with this equipment

[stark prairie]

had an android 10 install working. for giggles, attempting to install this Android 9.0 GSI with gapps -- https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v121 (system-arm-aonly-gapps-su), mostly because it's the version with google apps that would fit on the existing system partition, and i'm curious about getting gapps working (not enough room to load opengapps micro in TWRP) for things like Google Home, which wasn't working with microG.

getting this error from logcat during initial boot:

01-01 00:02:23.950   950   950 F linker  : CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE "/vendor/bin/hw/[email protected]": library "[email protected]" not found
01-01 00:02:28.952   951   951 F linker  : CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE "/vendor/bin/hw/[email protected]": library "[email protected]" not found```

i'm a bit new to this part of android, but would it be in the GSI image that maybe a library needs to be copied or renamed?  or something in the vendor partition/image maybe?

[next mural]

It's illegal no tinker 4 u

[stark prairie]

ok lenono.

[next mural]

One mans madness for gaming on anything

https://tenor.com/view/hannibal-lecter-silence-of-the-lambs-mask-evil-stare-gif-5961895

I might be back with a windows phone next who knows

Once again thanks 🙏🏽 to everyone for believing in my madness

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-14284264219182206721

[stark prairie]

my wife saw the package and said, "let me guess. more small electronics to tinker with."

thanks for feeding my adhd

[next mural]

I have found a Ryzen tab and a windows phone running full windows stock.

that will likely be the next iot devices that go on the gaming roster

maybe can single handedly revive the windows phone

With one that can run cult of the lamb natively 🐑

[next mural]

https://tenor.com/view/wereallmadhere-cheshire-gif-9500647

[stark prairie]

Went down a rabbit hole of loading parted and gdisk to try and resize partitions, but think it might be easier to learn how to make the system partition in QFIL larger to accommodate one of the GSI roms with gapps in it.

Couldn't get that build of 9.0 to work with the missing library.

[humble karma]

Sudden onset snow means mine won't arrive today

[atomic ether]

oof

is it just me or does the auto brightness on this thing turn itself back on?

[sweet wren]

Did you uninstall all of the extra junk?

[atomic ether]

I think so

it's possible I missed a package

in the settings, I haveonly speech recognition, android accessibility, settings, OOBE, snapdragon camera, gallery, files, AOSP keyboard, launcher3, calendar, and webview shell in addition to what I've installed

just noticed in settings->display->sleep, instead of an option for "never", it has an option for "nerver"

I wonder what happens when I set my screen off time to "nerver"

[atomic ether]

they went up to $35

guess he caught up to the hype

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-nope-dont-like-that-michael-scott-gif-14885589

[next mural]

wait till RTD drops his on it

We will have ppl in here like ant 🐜

[next mural]

Yes we are currently working on cooking 🔪 the adaptive brightness permanently

So it doesn't do that bs

[atomic ether]

I wonder if the seller on ebay is aware we're all organized with repurposing these things

[next mural]

Ruining the experience mid movie 🎥

[atomic ether]

yeah that BS needs to stop

[next mural]

Extremely unlikely

Tbh

[atomic ether]

adaptive brightness belongs on my phone, not on a desk tablet

[next mural]

Stubbs has these at his work and had no clue

So..

A random definitely would not assume

Probably thinks we are all opening offices in Los Angeles

Like damn 😂"what do these BastORRds need all these conferences for"

Who they calling the Prez

Spoofing location off multiple lenonos

For one call

[atomic ether]

unrelated, but why is the partition layout on an android device so cursed

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-meme-kitten-kitty-gif-5547382703001832606

[atomic ether]

I can see a justification for a separate system and userspace partition, but why are there like 9 at least

[next mural]

Did your pika Miyoo sell

[next mural]

I need me one of these

[stark prairie]

this is what i was digging into earlier. found an xda thread about how to resize the partitions in an attempt to increase /system and decrease /userdata but there's 51 total, and 26 between /system and /userdata

[long reef]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[stark prairie]

want to see if i can install a GSI build with gapps ... /system doesn't have enough room for any of them, and there's not enough room to store opengapps to install with twrp. maybe i'm going about it the wrong way 😄

[long reef]

No I meant that towards the number of partitions lol. I get what you’re doing

[stark prairie]

oh lol

[long reef]

I got play store working with magisk modules

Microg and fakegapps

And stuff

[stark prairie]

i got it working with microg but Google Home wouldn't work ...

[long reef]

Didn’t try google home

[stark prairie]

failed to load accounts.

couldn't get netflix or some other streaming apps working either, figure it had to do with how microg was faking it? i dunno, just felt like messing with it 😄

probably an easier way to go about doing it

[long reef]

Maybe I’ll try later. I had it all setup and then tried installing this GPU performance module in magisk and fried everything so had to start over and lost steam on Friday lol.

[stark prairie]

luckily this thing seems unbrickable

[long reef]

Yeah

[stark prairie]

qfil is magic.

[long reef]

Has anyone checked widevine

I didn’t since I don’t plan on watching movies on it

[stark prairie]

if they work i'd be down for having one in the kitchen. save me from propping up my y700 while washing dishes. 😄

[real trout]

Not that it relates to gaming, but I did end getting the voice assistant working

[next mural]

love to see everyones vids

Feel free to post your setups

Love to see it in action

[next mural]

Is vid done

I'm trying to time accordingly to purchase some more before the hounds smell blood

[atomic ether]

My wife asked if I should order more before the video gets released

[stark prairie]

So this process worked (instructions didn't pan out exactly): https://xdaforums.com/t/cd-18781y-lenovo-thinksmart-view-bootloader-firmware-zoom-teams-conversion-normal-android.4426029/post-89309915

Google Home works, Youtube works ... installing Netflix and other streaming apps.

[next mural]

No way

[next mural]

Yeah I watch Amazon prime on mine

It's basically the first thing I ever did on it

Once I realized how good the screen is after going a 1080p playback test on YouTube from chrome browser

[lilac flint]

Will readback through and respond to messages later today, but just a quick status update. I got wifi working on stock with a custom compiled kernel. Will test it out on gsi's later today and if it works I'll detail it for you all

[atomic ether]

Way

[lilac flint]

Push wlan.ko /vendor/lib/modules/ and then flash bootWifi6.img to boot partition (I did via EDL)

Works on V313 Roar gsi for me atleast

ttyl

[next mural]

The answer is yes grab a few

When RTD made his video abt that Microsoft phone the prices sky rocketed

This actually has MSRP of 350 and is being sold at more than one store ATM for 299😂

So the ceiling for price to go up really would be unlimited

Especially if someone realizes the value of the amount of tech that is being sold (they haven't yet) considering this chat has abt 20 ppl in it and of those even everyone hasn't ordered one yet

I imagine the RTD vid will light a spark 🤠

since it's hard to "trust" a new yt chan even when it's showing exactly what something is capable of

[sweet wren]

🤣 It's possible, I never really know with YT how the audience will respond to something. The Surface Duo surprised me quite a bit and you're right, you're talking about something that was around $260 at the time.

[atomic ether]

Number 4 will be here on the 10th. . .

[next mural]

Yeah this is literally cheaper than a visit to Starbuck

260 is still not chump change for the average consumer they have to think abt it

[next mural]

But 30 bucks get 10 you still playing for the cost of like 1 tablet that's worth anything nowadays

😭the a series tablets from Samsung are literally just...mega ewaste

I guess they created them to give to your kid to smash screen

[sweet wren]

I mean I love that we are saving this Lenovo device from being e-waste

[atomic ether]

my wife was asking last night if Lenovo would bring it back if there was interest in using it as a home automation tablet or for entertainment.

Of course I think it's great

but there aren't enough of us to justify that, I mean they already tried that and it flopped

[sick snow]

probably also not at $30

[atomic ether]

yeah

I think the best they could sell it for and turn a profit is in the $150-$200 range

[sick snow]

would be amazed if it was anything less than the original MSRP, it'll flop again and then some big whig at lenovo will claim "see, never again"

[next mural]

Bahaha

[next mural]

it's funny bc I was thinking abt talking to a product manager at lenoNO to have them repurpose the chip and cook up something similar to the cloud

but I'll have that conversation once the firmware is pretty situated

Bc literally hundreds if not thousands of these exist

As you can see even that random seller on eBay is cashing out on us

[atomic ether]

number 3 just turned up.

this one is for testing, so I'm thinking EDL flashing the userdebug rom at first power-on to see if that works

[next mural]

Let's get this party started

[atomic ether]

then GSI?

[brittle magnet]

Mines here from ebay, and It's sealed! Neat

[next mural]

Yeah they're brand new

[atomic ether]

the one I just got has the latest manufacture date I've gotten yet.

[next mural]

Woah they made it when you were ordering

[brittle magnet]

I got it last week technically

[next mural]

They have seen the evidence 🧾

[stark prairie]

the 8gb is a real limitation, tho.

[next mural]

imagine if someone links them this thread

Bahahaha

59 bucks next week

Easily

[atomic ether]

I've got 2020-07-26, 2020-07-27, and now 2021-03-23

[next mural]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-falling-down-escalator-escalator-funny-meme-fail-gif-27104288

Look at all these "folks buying this stuff"

[next mural]

@brittle magnet trying to setup yours before the RTD vid like

[atomic ether]

does EDL require testsigning or is that fastboot?

[next mural]

🤔thats a good Q

What are you trying to do

As long as lock the bootloader before exiting n reboot

[brittle magnet]

Oh yeah no, i'm waiting for RTD vid to explore this thing 😄

[next mural]

Should be able to flash anything

RTD RTD RTD

The crowd has spoken

[atomic ether]

I think I'm gonna try GSI like @lilac flint has been working on

[next mural]

Yehh sounds good

[sick snow]

wow this thing weighs a ton

[fathom patrol]

my dudes, made it over from the forums. see this is where the real party's at

I have GSI 11 running but wifi is like, no

[next mural]

This is being worked on

Welcome

Glad I linked this place in the forums

So ppl could find

[fathom patrol]

yeah thx!

[next mural]

10 watt speaker don't come cheap

there is a price that must be paid

[atomic ether]

currently flashing userdebug on first power-on in EDL, never booted, testsigning is not enabled

[fathom patrol]

fwiw I have the goods in /system/etc/firmware, just tried that new bootWifi6.img too

once we sort this out I'm game to mess around with resizing partitions. started trying, thought I bricked it. had to get one of those "deep flash" cables and boom back to EDL

[atomic ether]

did vol+ and vol- at the same on power not drop you into EDL?

[fathom patrol]

nah after hosing the partitions thinking I could reflash to the new locations with EDL, it wouldn't do anything but the 900e mode

this cable has a button on it that shorts some of the connections and drops it right into EDL. been using that instead of the vol buttons now

[atomic ether]

might have to make one of those at some point

[fathom patrol]

yeah should be easy to make one, I grabbed https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FZYC4C7/

[rough eagle]

They glued a rock to the inside of it

[sweet wren]

Save it for rock painting

https://tenor.com/view/stickers-gif-24654817

[rough eagle]

I wonder how much of the 1500g weight is just rock

[sick snow]

screen is amazing for $30

[next mural]

I will shill this part to the death of me

The screen is literally nuts

[sick snow]

these instructions you guys put together are great too, on first boot after recovery + gapps

[next mural]

I challenge anyone to cop a android tablet for 30 dollars on Amazon and show me a better screen I would be very surprised 🙀

@sweet wren you should actually do that for your vid

And do a performance test

Or versus 30 buck hamhelds

[sweet wren]

I did one better

[next mural]

Which would be like v90 datafrog not sure whatever else would fall in that

[sweet wren]

I compared it to a Walmart digital picture frame that costs more

[next mural]

but considering the question someone just asked on rgc thread in here I'd say compare w a tablet for 30 buck as well or something ppl are familiar w retro hamheld

Can't believe someone just asked basically if it's relevant that RGC did a mini pc vid

Instead of his usual hamheld content

What an actual stupid question

Something along the lines of is it even popular thing as if mini PCs aren't basically the reason we're able to have tiny x86 hamhelds now

[next mural]

have it display photos of the ThinkView

The ultimate meme

The secret admirer"

[next mural]

One person at least sees the value

Hopefully ppl can connect with your vid

[atomic ether]

and number 3 is currently being flashed with https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v313 arm-aonly-vanilla

[sweet wren]

At the end of the day, Russ can make a video on whatever he enjoys. I know it's nice to change it up a bit even if it's not his specific audience. Plus, people will still get thorough coverage from Russ on a different topic.

I like to do the same thing, it helps break up the topics. I love my handhelds but I'd be very tired if all I did was handhelds.

[next mural]

It's a shame ppl from other channels aren't in here in hoards

[next mural]

No I agree it's kind of pointless thing to say

[atomic ether]

and adding deadmans vendor from XDA

[sweet wren]

Plus, Russ has covered lots of mini PCs

[next mural]

Like lol if Russ made a video abt race car I'd watch

[sweet wren]

Exactly, it's Russ' channel, he can make videos on whatever he enjoys.

[next mural]

I wonder if the hate was directed bc it's Rog one

I found it just so peculiar that they pointed that out

[sweet wren]

Yea, it's weird

[next mural]

Like who cares it's his channel

[sweet wren]

considering ASUS bought the NUC branding, we're gonna be seeing a lot more of that

[next mural]

He could make vids about potatos if he likes

[sweet wren]

Potato PCs

[next mural]

Yeah since Intel retire

[next mural]

You gonna join the eggplant gaming 🕹️ series that I'm doing

[atomic ether]

got password request at boot, assuming that means I need to factory reset via recovery?

shoot. I should have flashed twrp

[next mural]

That should help sí might be some remnance

[atomic ether]

stock recovery expects you to have a power button

[next mural]

In current state twrp is kinda meh

But yeh agreed

[atomic ether]

at least recovery from userdebug

[next mural]

How is this going

[long reef]

Yeah I think the other FW have volume as select and confirm, but the userdebug wants power button.

but the other FW won't boot GSI

[atomic ether]

it booted though, got to password request

[long reef]

You may need to erase userdata

[atomic ether]

can I do that from QFIL?

[long reef]

fastboot -w?

[atomic ether]

oh

okay

[long reef]

@sweet wren had the password issue

[next mural]

Dead is working on readjusting buttons on a kernel level as I requested so when it's all said n done these smol things should be patched up nicely

He already has the cam working as power I believe

He's working to have it swap now so it activates in both positions

Whether it's open cam or closed

[atomic ether]

got ducks, now just a bit of waiting

hopefully not too much, didn't take long before I erased

success!

[long reef]

It’s a bit slow

Now push the three WiFi files

[atomic ether]

yeah I see that, no wifi. thought the vendor flash was supposed to fix that

do I push from recovery?

[long reef]

#1199440904566620260 message

[long reef]

The Kingston WiFi vendor flash doesn’t work right

In fact if you flashed that it might break what I just linked 😵

Or you can try: #1199440904566620260 message

[atomic ether]

mkdir gives me the error 'Read-only file system

hold on

I think I made a mistake, i see it should be making the folder /system/etc/firmware/. . .

[long reef]

You are making all three folders nested in each other

firmware, wlan, and qca_cld

Inside system/etc

You make the folders in the adb root shell then exit shell back to normal adb to push the three files.

[rough eagle]

Not all rocks are created equal it seems

(my 3rd and 4th arrived today)

[stark prairie]

Problem I had with flashing some GSIs was a missing library that would have it hang at boot. Not sure why that was happening, maybe need to give it another go but 8.1 with gapps is working ok. Getting Play protect certification failure but I'm sure there's a fix out there somewhere.

Google home, assistant, and YouTube music work so I think it can at least take over one of my aging Google Home devices. Added bonus of Meet/Duo for when the family video chats in.

[atomic ether]

files are copied, rebooting. couldn't find the wlan_mac.bin I thought I copied, turns out it is just a symlink, luckily I had it anyways since I flashed that vendor partition, it was in there

yup. no wifi

guess that vendor image did cause problems

[long reef]

Did you flash the kingston wifi vendor image

[atomic ether]

I did

[long reef]

yeah i had the same issue

So, start over lol. Only flash the aosp

after the debug

[stark prairie]

I could never get that to work. Just add those files over the normal one.

[atomic ether]

do I go back to EDL and flash userdebug?

or can I just flash vendor somehow

[long reef]

my working process: QFIL install debug FW, reboot into EDL again, QFIL partition manager to write system image (AOSP), reboot - loads aosp, push wifi files, reboot, gold.

Then for extras, after all that I installed magisk, used magisk to patch the boot.img from the debug firmware files, transfer that patched boot to pc, reboot into EDL, partition manager to load that magisk patched boot img, reboot to fastboot, fastboot -w, reboot - reinstall magisk apk..... Lol it's a bit of a trek. I think I could probably flash the patched boot image in step 1 or 2 now but haven't tried.

currently going through that part again as I fried the last install on Friday.

[rough eagle]

Is it possible to create a flash once image with all that combined?

[long reef]

Good question, I'm not smart enough to know the answer

@lilac flint is working on a kernel that incorporates fixes for wifi and power button among other things

damn stuck on ducks this time. such a fickle device

gonna try the route of flashing deadmans patched wifi boot file

[atomic ether]

wtf. I'm getting /system/etc/firmware is a file, not a directory

[long reef]

hm

did you use mkdir

to create it

I'm checking this other fix, might be easier if you wanna wait just a sec

[atomic ether]

will do

[long reef]

I renamed his wifi fixed boot file to boot.img and placed it in the userdebug FW folder to flash it from the get go. Then I rebooted and wrote the system image for AOSP. hopefully I should just have to push the wlan.ko and be good. Booting successfully atm so almost there.

[atomic ether]

If that works, I'll start from scratch again

[long reef]

just pushed the file, rebooting.

nope, not seeing wifi yet. damn

maybe i have to flash the boot fix after, lemme start over again lol.

[atomic ether]

gonna try again, maybe something went wrong when EDL flashing

[long reef]

Steps this time: QFIL Flash complete untouched debug FW.
Immediately reboot to EDL again. Use QFIL to load aosp system img and then bootWifi6.img via partition manager
As soon as it booted, adb push wlan.ko /vendor/lib/modules/
adb reboot...
Failure!

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-pulling-hair-no-frustrating-gif-3532627

[atomic ether]

I don't suppose you have to enable the kernel module, do you?

[long reef]

looking at his comment again he pushed the .ko file and THEN flashed the boot image

maybe that's my problem

[sick snow]

where are the wifi files again?

[atomic ether]

okay this time /system/etc/firmware doesn't exist prior to mkdir

[long reef]

idk, pushing the three files on an untouched fw/aosp flash is still the only way I've had wifi working.

here:

they don't work after using his patched boot so idk.

I've lost count of how many times I've reflashed this thing now

lol

[atomic ether]

the more I use it, the more I appreciate QFIL

[sweet wren]

I think scripting is done for the video

[sweet wren]

It's super easy to use

much better than flasher tools I've used from some other companies

[atomic ether]

it makes me not feel like a second class citizen working in windows

I have wifi

finally

this is using the old method of flashing the files

[long reef]

honestly I don't think using the patched boot/ko is any faster, am trying again now for testing sake

[next mural]

So you're posting later today

it's time to unleash beast

[long reef]

Tried again:
QFIL Flash complete untouched debug FW.
Immediately reboot to EDL again. Use QFIL to load aosp system img via partition manager. Reboot. Let device boot up all the way.
adb push wlan.ko /vendor/lib/modules/
adb reboot (hold down vol -/+ to enter EDL)
use partition manager to load bootWifi6.img
exit partition manager to reboot...
Still no wifi

@lilac flint I can't get that patched boot to do diddly squat for wifi

In other news, confirmed if you use magisk to patch a boot image you can load it in partition manager when you load the aosp image to skip a few steps

[atomic ether]

does the boot image need to be for the respective build?

[long reef]

I really don't know. I took the boot image from the userdebug firmware folder and patched it via the magisk app in aosp 11

but I don't know how specific it is

[atomic ether]

well that saves me a step. gonna flash it now

figure since I followed the same steps it should work for me

need magisk for google play services

to make ASOP 11 useful

[long reef]

yep

I used lsposed with fakegapps and microg installer

about to go back through that again

magisk complains about another su, I just disabled the su app that came with the rom in android settings

fk after magisk asked to reboot I keep getting dropped to fastboot now

I think I'm nearing my limit for the day lol

[atomic ether]

the limit does not exist

[long reef]

lol after a couple more reboots it finally loaded up

[atomic ether]

yeah I'm having trouble booting too

maybe wipe from fastboot will help

oh I have ducks

maybe working

nope, back in fastboot

trying fastboot -w

[lilac flint]

So when i tested it on stock I did bootWifi6 and then after it booted up I remounted and pushed it to vendor. I then dumped the vendor partition. Reflashed debug firmware -> GSI and then edl flashed the custom boot and vendor partitions

Everything works

It is so strange that their is this difference

[fathom patrol]

I've been digging around in the vendor init scripts, is it possible there are hardware differences? what do yall get for these:

:/ # cat /sys/bus/mmc/devices/*/*/vendor
0x0271
:/ # cat /sys/bus/mmc/devices/*/*/device
0x0801

date on mine is 2021-12-10

[long reef]

0x0271
android:/ # cat /sys/bus/mmc/devices/*/*/device
0x0801```

same

[fathom patrol]

and you're in the same boat with no wifi right

[long reef]

no I have wifi now

[fathom patrol]

oh nice

[atomic ether]

mmc is the same on my old unit from 2020

[long reef]

I copied down and pasted my commands to double check this last go around. I installed userdebug, rebooted straight to edl, loaded the aosp system image. let device boot and ran the following:

adb remount
adb shell
mkdir -p /system/etc/firmware/wlan/qca_cld
exit
adb push ice40.bin system/etc/firmware/
adb push WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini system/etc/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/
adb push wlan_mac.bin system/etc/firmware/wlan/qca_cld/
adb reboot```

[fathom patrol]

hmm I have all those maybe I'll start over

[long reef]

I think there is some stuff that is not getting wiped between all these flashes that may account for some oddities

I have flashed multiple times in the last day yet received this message: adb: failed to install com.android.vending_39.4.23-21_0_PR_599960685-83942310_minAPI21(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a,x86,x86_64)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk: Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_UPDATE_INCOMPATIBLE: Package com.android.vending signatures do not match previously installed version; ignoring!]

and i have reflashed multiple times since the last time in installed google play

[fathom patrol]

yeah mine's probably a mess by now

[long reef]

somehow it knows I previously installed a higher version

actually now it's not letting me install at all

[fathom patrol]

it knows

[rough eagle]

These things are haunted

That's why they're $30

[fathom patrol]

lol

[lilac flint]

Same values as me

[fathom patrol]

ok cool thx for checking, imma start fresh

[lilac flint]

Odd behaviour on these devices is kinda expected. Normally the OEM checks all this stuff but due to this being single application they just made it work.

https://github.com/deadman96385/android_kernel_lenovo_apq8053/commits/main/

Last 3 commits are whats needed for wifi to work on custom kernels

[next mural]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-dance-summer-camp-island-ghost-gif-26464800

[rough eagle]

Pretty sure it's ghosts

[next mural]

Is it a coincidence a ghost introduced you guys to the hardware

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[lilac flint]

@next mural btw switch works well in either direction now

[rough eagle]

Ghosty and deadman

Haunted confirmed

[next mural]

Amazing can check out the 🎤 button as select in recovery

That combo should be perfect then

[lilac flint]

Yeah will work on that now that wifi works

[next mural]

oc next after that

[atomic ether]

I'm so excited for when we have an image for this that we can just flash from QFIL

[next mural]

LFGGGGGGGGG

[atomic ether]

assuming that will happen eventually

[long reef]

wtf why won't it let me install play store now. There is nothing installed but it complains that it doesnt match the signature

[next mural]

I mean once all the bugs are resolved then yeh will make sense

[lilac flint]

Yeah its easy enough take the debug firmware and just replace the partition img's in there

[next mural]

A11 need be at 200% first especially with the flash happy ppl we will get I'm sure right after RTD vid

oh no it's stuck on lenono sign ☢️" messages incoming" why is the screen black"

[atomic ether]

yeah once the video drops, we have like 2 days before a bunch of people get their devices

[next mural]

Then the flood will start

Good thing I gave everyone a heads up

[lilac flint]

Yeah I am not sure why my repacked stock recovery.img doesn't boot and just goes to 901D

Twrp works fine

[next mural]

I think Peter or someone further up

Earlier got theirs out of that

[sweet wren]

Tomorrow morning

Just finished audio recording/editing, now video work

[next mural]

place all your orders tonight boys

[fathom patrol]

just got another one 😆

[next mural]

The regular pricing abt to be cooked

[atomic ether]

I had that happen a lot recently with the magisk boot.img, tried wiping, didn't fix it

[lilac flint]

I can reboot out of it fine it just doesn't load

[next mural]

I can literally guarantee

[sick snow]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-doge-coin-to-the-moon-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-14563637

[sweet wren]

lmao I don't know

[next mural]

if only I could put together a ThinkSmart stonk

We could be rich

[atomic ether]

my wife also suggested buying a bunch and reselling them after some hype builds

[next mural]

Your wife is smart

[atomic ether]

speculating on an old ass MS teams tablet

[rough eagle]

I wonder how many the eBay seller has

[next mural]

[rough eagle]

A pallet or a warehouse?

[next mural]

What could go wrong

[lilac flint]

There will be more once they officially go EOL

[atomic ether]

well she's an engineer too.

[next mural]

have her add another speaker

There is technically a second spot for one

[atomic ether]

it'll be like the price of old police crown vics after cleetus mcfarland started making videos with them

that's what she says anyways

[next mural]

The bigger ten inch one actually has 2

[next mural]

the references make this better

[long reef]

I'm so stumped the device keeps telling me im trying to install a downgraded version of play store and nothing is installed

[next mural]

but I think vics are popular bc it's like the cheapest thing the boys can get a V8 in

[lilac flint]

Ordered one for my dev friend before it goes up in pirce

[next mural]

Got em speculating like crazy

If someone puts in an offer for 100 it will probably be accepted and that will become the new price

artificially raising the price before it shoots for the moon

[stark prairie]

If someone can get it working, I think QFIL can be used to save a partition image. Then use in a fresh device would be a matter of flashing with QFIL an OEM build or something initially then going back over it with the saved image.

How those QFIL firehouse things are made is beyond me. I guess in theory we can replace the parts of the xml where system_*.img are listed with a singular img, as long as sector start/count matches.

[atomic ether]

it's a wild guess, but the MBN file might basically be a flash loader like you use when flashing microcontrollers. something like transfer the MBN file to the device over a protocol similar in functionality to DFU, and the MBN file is actually executed on the tablet and receives data and parses it and flashes it to the EMMC.

[lilac flint]

You can dump a partition with partition manager in qfil, and yes we can change the rawprogram0.xml to not be sparse and use combined system/vendor/resource imgs

[atomic ether]

considering some of the firehose files in https://github.com/zenlty/Qualcomm-Firehose/tree/master are .elf files, those are usually executables compiled for ARM

which I think supports the idea that the MBN isn't a file parsed by QFIL, but uploaded to and executed on the tablet

[lilac flint]

firehose's are phone specific

We already have this devices

@atomic ether In the debug firmware there is a rawprogram0.xml.bak remove the .bak and that will work as is I think for non-sparse/split files

This can be used to combine the system_, vendor_ resource_* files together

[fathom patrol]

boom I have wifi!

@long reef that did the trick

[lilac flint]

I'll have the Qualcomm board support package for this device soon. I'll be able to recompile stock vendor blobs with fixes and such with it.

[stark prairie]

build.prop needs chmod 644 right?

Seeing a ton of variations in what people use. Lol.

[lilac flint]

When I pushed it with adb I didn't need to set any perms

Camera switch working as a power button in either direction 😁

[next mural]

the only tablet that gets better everyday

@upper totem we need to send one to Ben M have him cook up a legion mini

[lilac flint]

My progress will slow during the weekdays, busy with work and tired so I don't always do stuff after it

[next mural]

No worries my guy we're making progress all the matters

[humble karma]

Got mine in the mail today but I'm not sure I'll open it up today. Gonna read through the XDA link and see what the latest is

[next mural]

Yeh take your time no rush

RTD should be uploading a vid abt it tomorrow as well

So hopefully that will help ppl figure out what they wanna do with it after buying as well

[humble karma]

Link it or at me when that happens!

I think I have to do some android development setup stuff if I want to do this and I don't feel like that today. And I'm going to reinstall the OS on the other computer I'll probably actually use

[lilac flint]

My plan for tomorrow is to package up the work that’s been done so far into an easily flashable package. I'll make a Deadman version that has wifi in vendor and I'll include another version with v313 a11 gsi with wifi added to system.

I'm going to test it on a different fresh computer and a fresh out of box unit

[fathom patrol]

happy to report that fully kiosk can turn the screen back on w/ motion detection on GSI 11 as well

[sweet wren]

That’s huge, very nice

[lilac flint]

3 a11 variants that I'm thinking of for now is,

1. stock kernel and vendor, wifi enabled v313 GSI system
2. Custom kernel and new wifi module on vendor, wifi enabled v313 GSI system.
3. Deadman edition of 2 aka stock v313 GSI and wifi firmware on vendor.

Custom kernel will include Camera switch as power button, mic switch as assistant button, performance cpu gov turned on.

Should cover the 3 usecases right now

[long reef]

I’m all for #3

[lilac flint]

Yeah idk why I'm different, but maybe with more people soon will see other's with the same

[long reef]

Oh I mean #2? I’m confused

Give me all the bells and whistles.

So far pushing the three files is the only WiFi fix that’s worked for me

[lilac flint]

#3 is the same as #2 just with my wifi vendor and unmodified system

Which idk why it works for me

[next mural]

performance gov with OC lets gooooooooooo

[long reef]

Your vendor file didn’t work and neither did the boot and .ko file

[next mural]

#3.5

[lilac flint]

I'm wondering if it's because I'm dumping it with edl

I'll try a dump via root shell

[lilac flint]

What about if you do it on stock debugging system. So you have bootwifi6, and custom vendor.

[long reef]

With no aosp?

[fathom patrol]

hmm I was able to flash kingston_wifi_vendor.img before and copy the files over. wifi didn't work until starting completely fresh though

[lilac flint]

Correct just stock

[long reef]

Could try tomorrow

[lilac flint]

The wifi vendor breaks it for others except me

[lilac flint]

I debugged the custom Kernel on stock that way so I could eliminate any bugs related to the GSI

[sick snow]

just got my wifi to work following @long reef 's directions

[fathom patrol]

weird, I still wonder if there were "remnants" like I seemed to have. hard to get a clean test

[lilac flint]

The firmware packages I'm making will be a good test because it will flash everything at once no long process.

[rough eagle]

@lilac flint I took the speaker cover off since it was pretty easy. After heating at 80°C for 5 minutes I'm supposed to pry here?

[next mural]

man that speaker is a beauty

[lilac flint]

You might be able to start from 4 seeing as you have the cover off before

This is technically for the midframe

[long reef]

I can't even get past setup for teams, just a spinning circle on add network

[lilac flint]

Hmm yeah that means wifi is dead

So it's not a GSI or firmware issue

It's gotta be a hardware variant

[next mural]

😭not the bad news 🗞️

Everyone check your release dates📅when you get your boxes ig

So maybe we can keep track which is dead skus

Those can be immediately 😎 returned

[long reef]

hold the phone

jumping to conclusions here

It's not like I can't still get wifi, we were just testing a particular method

[next mural]

yeah naturally just mean in general if ppl document which release date they got

Then as more come in we'll see if there is something that's cooked

[long reef]

But dead has a unit that is same release date as mine and they're still not cross compatible

[next mural]

It'll become obvious

[long reef]

we have found no significant evidence that the hardware differs

Just, chill on the hype its not even 8am yet...

lol

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-morning-good-morning-coffee-images-gif-12121789316463949651

[next mural]

Hm 🤔 maybe is the firmware it ship with then intriguing

Leave some remnance n such

Kinda like how on some electronics once the newer firmware is flashed there's no way of reverting back to an older version 🤔

[next mural]

I feel it

[long reef]

I think it's more that the way dead was pulling certain files they were specific to his unit

[next mural]

This would make sense as well since w qfil anything should in theory be flashable

Like nothing existed on it before 🤔

[lilac flint]

Someone else mentioned somewhere that an edl dump from one didn't work on another. So I'm going to dump my vendor and boot with a root shell and see if you guys can flash that

It's also not by manufacturer date sadly I've got ones that match others

I've got 2 more in box units so with my flash packages I'm going to make I'll test those

@long reef Do you still have that log handy from before? Idk how to find it easily in the history

[long reef]

I have several, which one?

[lilac flint]

Bootwifi6 one

[sick snow]

agree i think it's premature to say it's a hardware revision. I don't think we're all using consistent instructions or sources of various packages, even small differences in what's used or even order of operations seemingly makes a difference in if the end product works

[humble karma]

Alright. Got ADB installed and my thinksmart booted

Can anyone recommend a corporate teams network to join so I can maximize my meeting productivity?

[sweet wren]

Video now live! https://youtu.be/V7CMizEOT-0

[next mural]

Lets Gooooooooooo

[lilac flint]

Yeah my unified package should cut out most of the variation

[next mural]

Abt time

[lilac flint]

@sweet wren when you got the password screen did you end up just redoing the process or did a wipe work?

[sick snow]

wipe via recovery worked for me

[sweet wren]

I wiped with QFIL using partition manager

I believe I deleted the userdata and then reflashed

I'd have to go through it again

[sick snow]

interesting, mine stopped booting after i wiped using qfil, maybe i did it wrong though

[sweet wren]

The nice thing about the View, it's impossible to brick it

thankfully

[lilac flint]

In theory it is, I need to validate what signature the sbl1 is set too. I'm hoping it's qcom and not the Lenovo one.

[sick snow]

yeah, with qfil access it's just about impossible to brick

[lilac flint]

If you flash a badly signed sbl1 you'll need to take apart the unit and short the edl test pad.

[sweet wren]

I've done some crazy things to it, so if I haven't managed to break it ... I think we're good 🤣 😅

[lilac flint]

But yeah having the firehose makes it a whole lot easier to repair

[long reef]

I'm not sure I logged that. I think it was from the kingston vendor when I was logging

[sick snow]

https://tenor.com/view/bust-kurtangle-gif-20596458

[lilac flint]

Ah that one works as well

[long reef]

https://discordapp.com/channels/741895796315914271/1199440904566620260/1203048150798176286 These are the logs when I was toggling wifi on off

Installed linux on another drive this morning so I can hopefully more easy fiddle with this stuff

[sick snow]

but I'm with roof on this one, this thing is built like a brickhouse, I feel like I'm going to destroy the bezel trying to get this screen off

[sweet wren]

Yea, it's that ThinkSmart quality

just for $30 😅

[humble karma]

Why are you removing the bezels?

[sick snow]

you have to pry between the bezel and screen and it's on there TIGHT

[next mural]

Jus to see the insides

[sweet wren]

[humble karma]

Yikes, I don't like to see that

[sick snow]

that doc's been playing too much golf

[rough eagle]

That's why I took the speaker grill off first. I didn't want to damage the area around the screen

[sick snow]

did you get any farther?

it's still in there really good

[rough eagle]

Nah I wanted to see what deadman said before continuing and now I'm at work

[sick snow]

i tried a pair of sharp tweezers to see if I could get a corner to lift up a little and the tweezers started bending

[rough eagle]

I used the ifixit jimmy tool for the speaker

[sick snow]

speaker grille i got off too

[rough eagle]

I guess the grille off doesn't help though does it

[fathom patrol]

I think a "deep flash" cable is doing that as well? had to get one after toasting the partitions

[lilac flint]

I'll grab a video of the process after work

[lilac flint]

It may yes, for the partition issue most likely sbl1 was still functional. But if it's not you may need the test point to force it.

[fathom patrol]

gotcha well glad it didn't come to that 😅

I have it booting but not getting past the ducks yet with a bigger /system
/dev/block/mmcblk0p24 2.4G 1.0G 1.4G 43% /system

[sweet wren]

Sharing here as well since someone asked about it but I can confirm that Plex works

[rough eagle]

No rush.

Yeah the Plex app supports Android 5.0+ apparently. I was one person worried about it but got it working on mine

[tiny shore]

I am late to the game on this one, anyone want to send a brief consensus is this awesome for the pricepoint?

[sweet wren]

If you like to tinker, it's fun to mess around with

[hidden dune]

It's $30. Awesome for the price point would be if it could run playstation semi well.

It's more than that.

[tiny shore]

Alright time to spend a couple bucks.

[hidden dune]

Mr Bean is so wholesome.

Entire episodes just made up of a guy on his own in a room with no dialogue.

It's like Atkinson decided to make the hardest show ever, and just blazed it.

[burnt olive]

The video playing during the “more than meets the eye” part was

[long reef]

Yeah I've ran ds and ps on it. PSP/DC is where it starts to fall apart

performance wise

[sweet wren]

I remember introducing Mr Bean to my at the time 8 or 9 year old daughter, and she was in tears at certain scenes from laughing so hard

[long reef]

Some PSP runs ok at 1x

[sweet wren]

Yea, Loco Roco and Lumines were set to 2x so lighter stuff is definitely good to go

[long reef]

I only tried sonic on DC and it was about 45fps

[sweet wren]

DC performance was just confusing, not sure why it's not faring so well

[long reef]

Wipeout was technically "playable" at 1x but with lots of frameskip

I think desktop nintendo DS is one area it really shines with the vertical stand

or any varcade stuff

besides all the obvious uses for media consumption

I mean for the price its neat

[lilac flint]

Somebody linked me one https://youtu.be/wHqHFaXXTks I'll probably still write up a written guide with pics

[long reef]

I will be curious if @lilac flint can eke some more performance with governor changes

[hidden dune]

That one where he gets changed on the beach and the "twist" ending. Man, some of the best physical comedy ever, coupled with an ending that just delivers a massive laugh.

Genius.

[sweet wren]

That's the scene, she just lost it 🤣

[sweet wren]

🤣 I'm glad it was noticed

[long reef]

ThinkSmart inception

[sweet wren]

🤣 Ok, that's hilarious

[long reef]

The speaker is great for spoken word

It's like you're here in the room with me 😛

[tiny shore]

Maybe he is

[next mural]

go spam the vid comments

[hidden dune]

@raven pagoda here's a few display smart speakers going for £52 and free shipping using the code love10 if you are interested.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234949840807?chn=ps&_ul=GB&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1v1BWm1FtR7y7etKlzGB8XA62&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=234949840807&targetid=1647205089280&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046172&poi=&campaignid=17206177401&mkgroupid=136851690655&rlsatarget=pla-1647205089280&abcId=9300866&merchantid=115584044&gclid=CjwKCAiAq4KuBhA6EiwArMAw1O5zT4o2s8t2YWrclDFrb3k7eYhch7uLIjdxqfwrugKPH9QBs5AUhBoCi4UQAvD_BwE

[next mural]

Time to take over

[next mural]

Hmm I was thinking abt this but the software is actually not exactly same

These are more mamed

Can barely get android apps working on that version

The thinksmart has more complete software out the box ironically

the smart display has an even more gutted version basically just android things

With half the emmc

[next mural]

^ likely the reason

Was talking to dead abt this

Yesterday

And he told me those are cooked

[lilac flint]

It was more so that it could run on the ancient mtk processor that was the first Android things board. Apq8053 came later when Qualcomm wanted to be apart of it

[next mural]

[lilac flint]

But yeah you can get the android things ones, you can bootloader unlock them with a hack and I released the files to turn off avb lock.

Just nobody has done more with it

[hidden dune]

Oh, never mind then. I thought I was on to something there 😄 (almost half the price of the view in the UK)

[next mural]

Yeh would be better someone get it from the states and just ship @vagrant vault ⚓ to gamma

[next mural]

No worries I was contemplating same thing with dead yesterday

As they actually have a 1200p version of that one with 10 inch screen and dual speakers

I might still cop to see if Amazon prime run then that's beyond gold 🪙

[vagrant vault]

I offer myself as tribute.

[next mural]

Link with RTD he knows from forwarding services

Can take it from there

So shipping 🚢 goes with a breeze

[vagrant vault]

I can do that when it comes.

[next mural]

Sounds good sir

[vagrant vault]

If Gamma wants to work on it that is.

[next mural]

Yeh I think he's game as long as he can get a hold of some without them being ridiculous price

Which would be fine if you're sending from states

[vagrant vault]

Ok. We'll work it out. I don't mind sending it for a time.

[next mural]

And dev is going pretty fast

Without another dev having physical device will help a lot

[silver spear]

Had to order another one to beat the rush. Price already $5 more than when I purchased before.

[humble karma]

Oh no! The RTD video instructions are very windows-specific. Gonna have to figure some things out

[raven pagoda]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116055821820

[long reef]

maybe we should all send Gamma $10 each to fund development lol

[raven pagoda]

I appreciate that but I don't think that is necessary

You guys are progressing well, love to see it

https://susam.co.uk/product/lenovo-2022-tablet-8-thinksmart-view-video-conference-equipment-wireless-lan-2gb-ram-8gb-storage-business-black/?gad_source=4

Hmm anyone ever order from here?

Nevermind, reviews are bad on Google

[fathom patrol]

well this was way more trouble than it was worth but hey I did a thing

[long reef]

what image is it?

[fathom patrol]

I resized the /system partition to fit system-roar-arm-aonly-gogapps.img on there

[stark prairie]

how'd you manage that?

i didn't take the time to fiddle with qfil, and resizing in adb shell with parted/gdisk (found some guide to that) seemed super tedious with all the partitions between system/userdata.

[fathom patrol]

way too much time spent with parted 😆

[stark prairie]

ah, so the tedious route

[fathom patrol]

lol

[stark prairie]

looks like it worked, tho!

[fathom patrol]

kinda surprised!

[stark prairie]

phh has a build of Android 9.0 with gapps that fits within the default partition structure.

[fathom patrol]

but.. 11! 🙌

[stark prairie]

yeah, that's pretty sweet.

well done!

[fathom patrol]

thx, I tried lineage for fun but ran into the same thing deadman did

boots to the welcome screen then reboots to factory reset every time

[stark prairie]

i've had some luck too with flashing a vanilla image then booting to twrp, transferring + installing opengapps before it goes through first boot.

[fathom patrol]

and I imagine there were some bigger changes in 12, cuz that.. didn't work

[stark prairie]

camera work? in changing up builds i noticed not all would work with the camera. my hopeful use of it includes keeping that video chat capability. seemed hit or miss with whether it would detect the camera or not.

[fathom patrol]

yep! omg is that what I look like

only thing I did was copy the same wifi stuff into /system/etc/firmware

[long reef]

the move from 32 bit to 64 bit only, pretty sure

So 11 is the newest we'll get

[lilac flint]

https://github.com/bkerler/edl, this tool should work for you on Linux

[fathom patrol]

I wasn't sure about the arm32_binder64 images

[lilac flint]

Yeah those won't work currently

Probably will move that in the future or just full arm64

[stark prairie]

is the lack of ability to use the usb-c port for peripherals a hardware issue, or software?

[humble karma]

I the clone on this a few minutes ago. Thanks

[lilac flint]

8.1 and 9 didn't have working camera for me

[lilac flint]

Hardware from looking, there's a test point on the bottom of the board that you could wire to the connector though

[long reef]

camera working on 11 for me

[stark prairie]

nice.

[long reef]

whoa the actual saved photos are like some warhol art

[lilac flint]

How do you see it?

[stark prairie]

that's pretty wild.

[long reef]

video is ok tho

[lilac flint]

Whoa interesting

[long reef]

the jpeg is super small. 84kb

anyway, taking pictures is like 0 priority on this device lol. video working so there's that.

[long reef]

ok time for playing with the governor 😮

getting like 2 fps in this bench lol

ok I need a faster bench, too impatient for this lol

[next mural]

What a looker

cam looking good 💯

I think it's 5mp or something

Pretty crispy

cool device to Skype your side chick on

[long reef]

I found an app to make it easier, still testing if there's any discernable difference - 3C CPU Manager (root) - lets you change cpu and gpu governor easily without having to use adb shell

[sweet wren]

[long reef]

well despite pinning the gpu to 600mhz mostly, I still received an AnTuTu result within margin of error regardless of governor settings

1st - cpu interactive (default), 2nd - cpu performance, 3rd - cpu and gpu both performance

the highest coastline score was actually on all defaults so..

Seems the bottleneck is not the GPU freq as it's frequency didn't seem to impact score much

[fathom patrol]

oh and while I was messing with partitions, seems the stock userdata isn't aligned so redoing at least that one may give a slight bump to the storage performance

[stark prairie]

which image did you start with? Debug?

[fathom patrol]

yeah

which has it at sector 6890512

not cleanly divisible by 2048 and makes parted sad

[rough eagle]

SSD? More like SAD

[lilac flint]

We should be able to update the rawprogram_unsparse.xml to flash it to the correct location

[fathom patrol]

cool 6891520 should do it, then we'd need to update/patch gpt_main0 with that as well

[lilac flint]

I'll be able to do that soon, still getting things setup

Good news the all in one flash seems to work 🙂

I built the version that contains what works for me first to see if hopefully it now works for others.

This version contains

1. Custom kernel bootwifi6.img, camera switch is the power button in either direction
2. Vendor with new wlan.ko and wlan firmware
3. Unmodified v313 a11 system
4. empty userdata.img (Technically has a 1 in it because qfil doesn't allow an empty file)
5. Sec file not being flashed (Not needed and could change efuses on the device)
6. If the partition isn't one of the above it is from the debug firmware.
7. Sparse images (EG. system_1, system_2, etc) have been combined into normal images

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10GQdjvfFNcpB5YXUO7ivI4XksiOiAHmw/view?usp=sharing

Instructions:
EDL Flash debug firmware
Reboot while holding vol+/- to get back to edl
EDL Flash the above firmware
Reboot and enjoy you'll see a duck for a boot animation

I'll make the other versions and include a kernel with mic as assistant and performance gov turned on

[stark prairie]

Flashing it now.

Got ducks.

[lilac flint]

Good sign

Hopefully wifi works for you guys

[stark prairie]

Stuck at ducks. Logcat shows it cycling through what looks like same thing.

[lilac flint]

Post the log

Also after that flash debug firmware and then this package

[stark prairie]

Gotta get the kids to bed but will give it another go.

[fathom patrol]

not sure if it's similar but I thought I could start with an empty userdata earlier and it didn't work until I reflashed the original. turns out "format /data/" is really "delete most of /data"

[lilac flint]

This is a truly empty userdata.img flashed with edl

and it worked for me lol

[fathom patrol]

right I think there's actually some stuff in /data/media that it relies on. oh hmm 😆

yours is special

[lilac flint]

It shouldn't be

If it comes down to it we can do flash userdebug -> flash my package minus debug firmware to save space.

[fathom patrol]

2 steps ain't so bad

ok so this isn't a great test but I'm reluctant to part with my beautifully hacked partitions just yet lol. with a11 313-gogapps, I flashed bootwifi6.img and dropped in the new wlan.ko. started up, when it started connecting to wifi it rebooted

[long reef]

that didn't work for me, only the three file method

[fathom patrol]

do you mean the /system/etc/firmware ones? those are already there

[long reef]

you shouldn't need the bootwifi or ko file if you have those three

that was an alternate solution test