Small Universe by Sugar Cubes

[lean lintel]

SD888, 1080x1240 swiveling OLED display, metal shell & buttons, price/release tbh

No idea who this company is or why this thing needs an SD888, competition for the Aya Neo Pocket DMG I guess?

https://youtu.be/-74sD_Y1PWY?si=smF1-0nEHt7E34Gf

Screen matches the resolution of the lg wing bottom screen, not a wing tho, that used a sd765g

D-...disc? Looks kinda terrible

[ember niche]

After the rp4s heat stuff I can’t imagine a 888 in that little thing doing well

Edge also struggled with the same chip

[fast rover]

Wtf aspect ratio is this?

[lean lintel]

Yah no active cooling.. dunno what it would need that power for at that aspect ratio anyway

[ember niche]

I can’t even tell how big it is

[lean lintel]

27:31 lmao, probably the closest thing available to 4:3 in oled

[lean lintel]

3.9" screen, can go from there

Swivel mechanisms are a clusterfuck at the best of times too

[ember niche]

The chip and design(lookswise) are so awesome though

[lean lintel]

Yaaaah kinda tempted despite all that ngl lol

[ember niche]

I’m worried about price though

[lean lintel]

I'm sure it'll be something stupid

Easily 400+

[cursive minnow]

I saw that

[ember niche]

I might bite at $400 which is crazy

[vocal wave]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-perry-chandler-bing-friend-what-the-hell-is-that-wth-gif-16256652

[cursive minnow]

I literally have been wanting something the size and form factor of an analogue pocket that runs Android (for hardcore achievements), so maybe me too, what can I say

[ember niche]

It’s the miyoo mini u have dreamed about

Except it’s a metal brick

[vocal wave]

Why wouldn't they use a wide screen? Have it vertical and it could play single games at the bottom of the screen, NDS could display both top and bottom. Then you would swivel it horizontal for things like PSP or other widescreen games!?

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-pills-will-ferrell-zoolander-gif-11205340

[lean lintel]

I love that there's such a minor difference in ratio when swiveled, like why bother lol

[wary orbit]

I'm just going to assume this is fake until I see more. None of it makes sense.

[rain umbra]

God this thing is all kinds of wrong

[grand steeple]

money laundering scheme?

[cursive minnow]

inb4 soulja boy is behind it

[agile gorge]

very interesting gimmick handheld

I fear that it will cost more than a gimmick handheld should because of that overkill chip

and yeah like others mentioned that swivel mechanism on that aspect ratio is almost pointless

and is that the xbox layout I see?

not even gonna talk about that "dpad"

[slim bane]

The more the merrier! Not a device for me, but the rotating screen is a cool idea. A rotating 3:2 screen or a 3:2 device designed to be played sideways is on my bucket list though.

[fading eagle]

If you’re gonna do a swivel screen go all in and make it 16:9 imo

[wary orbit]

20:9, swivel phone ratio or bust.

The windmill handheld

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-windmill-thomas-windmill-thomas-and-friends-gif-11934021223004412313

[idle tinsel]

If this was 16:9 I wouldn't really care what it costs. I'd buy it.

[fast rover]

How many vertical 2:3 or 9:16 games/systems exist? ik there were some 3:4 arcades

[fading eagle]

Android pinball sims, modern indies including switch games with tate mode like downwell etc, and if you want to have NDS properly represented without black bars you need 2:3 but if you want to have the proper “gap” between screens for games that took that into account 9:16 is actually pretty close to perfect

[deft talon]

Holy smokes I just saw this device on the interwebs and didn't know if it was a joke or not...

That's definitely the LG Wing display right? They're finally using it?!

[lean lintel]

Only display with that resolution, if it's not vaporware that would seem to be the case

[deft talon]

Yeah that was my first thought when I read Oled 3.9" and that resolution.

But the sd888 puts me off because the heat that thing generated under load...

[lean lintel]

It's an odd choice for sure, what would you even play in this that needs that kind of power? 🤔

[deft talon]

Yeah the screen seems too small to enjoy ps2 and game cube and that's but taking into account any black bars

Although I wonder if you only run lighter systems, would it still heat up to the same degree

[arctic acorn]

ngl....I kinda fuck with this

but I wish it was a lesser processor and possibly also a different dpad, hard to say how it'll feel

anbernic should crib the rotating display idea for their next vertical handheld methinks

I still have yet to find the Perfect vertical shmup handheld (closest I've got so far is the rgb30) but this is a potential candidate

[arctic acorn]

how does one acquire such a gadget

[lunar cairn]

I wish this was affordable to be a production device, I'd use it as a DS

[arctic acorn]

also do kinda wish it was 3:4 instead of 9:16 but I suppose 9:16 has its advantages (DS)

maybe I should just bite the bullet and gut an RG ARC or something and 3D print a new shell for it with a vertical screen

[lean lintel]

XianYu (Chinese secondhand site), also comes in various colors in metal

I have one on the way, but can't find much info on it, 855 w/active cooling, 4gb ram, 5" 720p display, based on htc 5g hub, only name I can find is 'hotdog handheld' 😂

[lunar cairn]

yeah, it's very cool, just expensive since they're individually made... Gives me hope for a bigger company to mass produce them though.

[lean lintel]

Yah, it's not tooo bad, but definitely expensive for such a niche device, mine was like $200 but I've seen them lower

[arctic acorn]

Interesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/tuo3cy/what_if_there_was_a_handheld_just_for_your/
I hope whoever this was is still workign on it

Well if you really want it to be produces it was posted on Anbernic Facebook page you can vote for it
aw man do I really have to use facebook for this

I'd move the dpad higher and just get rid of the analog on this design tbh

But I don't really care for analog sticks for arcade games in general so I'm biased

[crystal horizon]

this looks like smth maxzhou would do

[agile gorge]

while interesting, a handheld of this design would have the worst weight balance ever

[lunar cairn]

that definitely looks like a designed by committee device

[true yarrow]

That hotdog thing does resemble a hotdog hahHH

[torn sable]

I kinda miss the point of a rotating screen that is almost square. It would make much more sense with a 4:3 screen

[idle tinsel]

I take it as more of a gimmick at this point than anything else. I wouldn't even contemplate buying this device with that screen. Seems pointless to me as well.

[torn sable]

Next time they might try rotating circular screen 👀

[idle tinsel]

It'll be their revision when this doesn't sell for shit 🙂

[livid mural]

I mean, this device will make 4:3 nutters be quiet for a while with their anti-16:9 grief

[vagrant mason]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/small-universe-x-sugar-cubes-handheld-revealed/ A quick write-up on the Sugar Cubes by one of our newest writers!

[idle tinsel]

No sir. Because this is too gimmicky. We still want a proper 4:3 device. 😅

And a horizontal handheld. 😁

[livid mural]

rg405m and rg353m are standing at your door judging you

[idle tinsel]

I loved the 405m and would still have it had it been plastic. I'm not a huge fan of metal handhelds. 🤨

[fading eagle]

Plastic dpad top 405m with the arc dpad and you have a deal

[agile gorge]

is that a surface duo controller?

[lean lintel]

Yes, no idea why it's randomly posted here tho

Some new footage of a sugarcube shell here https://youtu.be/mGxEDC8euUI?si=QX2g9NrzJjoh6jVw

Can't believe it's even made it this far tbh

[agile gorge]

is anyone giving them any feedback at all about how pointless a 10:9 rotating screen is?

you laugh but it's a serious question

[lean lintel]

Fr, all that cost & complexity for what exactly?

[rich imp]

it's not even good at wonderswan..

[proven mesa]

Would you prefer it to be fixed portrait or landscape? Because - serious answer - this is instabuy for me if I can play in portrait, hard no if I can’t.

[crystal horizon]

nah people would rather have it not be a square-ish aspect ratio

4:3 would be preferable

[proven mesa]

Why would 4:3 be better? To reduce the size of black bars in landscape mode?

[crystal horizon]

It would make a more significant change

[proven mesa]

But what is the benefit?

[agile gorge]

the difference between 10:9 and 9:10 will be too little for the rotating screen shtick to even matter

[proven mesa]

It matters if you’re trying to emulate a 400x480 device.

IMHO.

[agile gorge]

vertical shmups will look a whopping 0.1" larger in 9:10 orientation

what device has a 400x480 screen? is it an arcade system?

[proven mesa]

3DS!

[agile gorge]

oh that's a good point when both screens are stacked

[crystal horizon]

That square dpad tho, augh

"Square dpad"

Circular dpad*

[proven mesa]

Yeah, that’s an odd choice.

[agile gorge]

side note have you also looked at the upcoming zpg a1 unicorn?

it has the square screen like the rgb30 and it looks like the chip will have just enough oomph for decent 3ds

the caveat being you may have to use official citra for some games and the mmj fork for others

[crystal horizon]

wait I'm dumb

ok nvm it works for 3ds lmao

turns out you need to remember to not add horizontal res together when you're stacking displays

[proven mesa]

Totally. It’s the next best option apart from the Snowcake and Sugarcube… and some impossibly obscure devices. And it’s got a better chance of becoming an actual product than this one.

[grand steeple]

Sugar

[subtle gorge]

Just a reminder I might sell this product on my website later

Already talked with the creator

[pale cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Cwb0liFnc

The company is "Sugar Cubes", and the device name is "Small Universe". Could possibly update this thread's title.

I am working with Sugar Cubes a bit trying to improve this device and give players something they will actually want.

I have communicated that the dpad should absolutely be the standard + shape, and that the nearly square screen is a bit odd to us. They are slowly improving the device. They seem receptive.

[weak sparrow]

What's the big draw of the rotate screen anyways

[idle tinsel]

If it was the right aspect ratio it would be cool for regular gaming and flip for arcade and ds consoles.

But it's almost square which is stupid.

[pale cove]

Exactly. IF it were not 10x9, it could be somewhat useful. it does seem like a pointless gimmick.

[weak sparrow]

Agreed. Could be super sick if it was a 16x9 that could switch to vertical for SHMUPS

[crystal horizon]

16:9 would be very odd for a vertical

Would need to be smth square-ish

[weak sparrow]

I guess 4:3 would fit the bill fine enough?

[crystal horizon]

4:3, 3:2

At the same time, they could just not have rotation and stick with 1:1

[proven mesa]

Maybe they can add a 4:3 or 3:2 SKU for people who don’t care about 3DS emulation. It’d be a damn shame if they drop the 9:10 portrait mode based on feedback…

Square would be fine but then they lose their main gimmick.

[tawny hawk]

This is neat!!

[crystal horizon]

New gimmick, 1:1 vertical

Which hasn't been done yet

[lean lintel]

Small Universe by Sugar Cubes

[pale cove]

As odd as it may sound, I told them to literally create the bezel at 16x9 or 4x3 and hide the additional screen that is technically available, since they want to use a 4 inch square screen cropped at 10x9 and the rotating feature being the entire gimmick of the device.

they have already produced the lenses, as far as i know. so we might get 10x9 no matter what. thankfully, they did say they are testing other dpad options. i told them dont bother testing, we only want the +

[proven mesa]

Why would you want to hide those pixels? What’s the benefit?

[pale cove]

Seems like the only logical way of making that rotating screen actually make sense.

[crystal horizon]

16:9 would give you massive bezels so bleh

Most people lost interest at the 10:9 part

Genuinely sucks because this had massive potential at being a 3:2/1:1 vertical

[proven mesa]

Except you lose 3DS emulation and gain nothing by covering up those pixels. Nag them to make it 1:1 all you like, but asking to cover over a bunch of pixels to get 16:9 or 4:3 is taking a perceived problem and making it worse!

[fast rover]

It's not even 10:9 it's freaking 27:31

[crystal horizon]

Close enough to 10:9

[crystal horizon]

Literally why are they even making up a gimmick by nerfing the panel

If it was 1:1 1240x1240, people would absolutely buy it

[idle tinsel]

Only if it didn't rotate. Rotating even with that screen is stupid. One more thing that can go wrong for no good reason. Lol

Just like how they have it now. A pointless point of failure. Whoever thought this out should think through it again

[fading eagle]

Even the existing screen res is perfectly good just don’t rotate it

[naive viper]

really interested in this hopefully we see more info soon that red and purple

[crystal horizon]

ohhh brother

yes

I have 0 interest due to the stupid design but it looks nice

[naive viper]

if they could get rid of whatever that thing is on the left and put a real d-pad then im good with that

[orchid spear]

Dude tbh. This company is going all in on “we are fucking making the device we want to make”, and honestly I’m all for it. I just want to see the end product even if it’s not for me, the fact that the company has the balls or hard headedness to do this is kinda dope lol

[sterile zodiac]

Wait... we can even rotate the face buttons?

[sterile zodiac]

Also, for me, it looks way better than ayaneo products.

[unreal zinc]

Any new info?

[fading eagle]

from the other discord

honestly this would look good if it ditched the rotating screen

[misty fractal]

so it's a DIY handheld then?

[noble plank]

It'd be good if it had better ergonomics. 😕

Thinner isn't better. This design philosophy needs to die in the gaming scene.

[fading eagle]

You can basically never have both pocketability and ergonomics especially on a vertical. Some people will pick one and some the other depending on use case

Personally I’m fine with flat pocketable slabs, I’m not here to play on a small handheld for 4 hours solid

[noble plank]

What about the RG405V? Plus even the MagicX XU10 is pretty comfortable to me.

These are two comfortable Vertical Handhelds off the top of my head.

[fading eagle]

the 405v is great, it picks ergo over pocketable

the MM+ is also great, it picks pocketable over ergo

I'm saying you'll basically never get both, especially not on a vertical

[misty fractal]

How the f are they going to put a snapdragon 888 in this without overheating

[crystal horizon]

nerf the shit out of it

[wary orbit]

Maybe they could make a console that wraps around your leg in your pocket. Then it could be both.

Leg ergo.

[fading eagle]

They aren't, no way this ever makes it to market

[true yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbIYRMUhhI

[stiff jay]

Wtf so a Microsoft duo 1st gen but rebranded?

[crystal horizon]

Damn they sure redesigned the small universe

@stiff jay no it's literally just a controller addon

[vale scaffold]

I have one of those in Blue. Just received it the other day

[tawny hawk]

I'm borrowing one in white (for the Duo) for a video

[agile gorge]

also wondering if this is still a thing

[tame narwhal]

https://imgur.com/a/ziHYDmY

https://imgur.com/yZX4rTg

it seems like they have made some progress

https://imgur.com/a/ZhvuZ4I

[bleak linden]

Thought the project died and all the screens got grabbed and became customized screens for ayaneo dmg

[naive viper]

this is supposed to have a 870 sd?

nvm 888

if they deliver all the colors they showed off this is a buy

[agile gorge]

so it's still a thing huh. still wish they'd ditch the rotating screen gimmick if it ended up adding costs

if what was said previously about this device is true, hiding pixels on a square screen just so they could make this gimmick work is the dumbest thing ever

[tame narwhal]

Being able to use the screen both vertically (like on Snow Cake) and horizontally (like on AYANEO DMG) is the main reason the creator wanted to make this.

[true yarrow]

Looks interesting still

[crystal horizon]

the problem is more that last I checked, they have square panels and created their own problem

[ruby creek]

Is there lot of bezel? I feel like there isn't much point to rotating a 1:1 screen

Unless I'm missing something

[tame narwhal]

I guess the argument is if they use such a square screen protector, why not use a square screen underneath? That makes sense, but in reality, they need to play around with existing screens. There doesn't exist a 1:1 4-inch 1080p screen.

with 720p square screens, we have RGB30, RGB20SX, A1 Unicorn, and the Cube.

[fading eagle]

it is not a square screen - it's the LG wing 1240x1080 OLED just like the ayaneo DMG and the snowcake

[true yarrow]

That's a beautiful screen imo

[crystal horizon]

I see

had gotten the info from this post #1196053717548535828 message

[karmic salmon]

Is there anyway to remove the winky face buttons 😅 just feels too juvenile for a premium device.

[silent forge]

@tame narwhal do you have any idea of this thing's ETA and how one would pick one up?

[tame narwhal]

I don't know too much. I know there is a private QQ group for people who helped funding the Duo kit and several other projects. Those people know more, but I'm not among them. I do have heard that this will be limited to 100 or so since they only got so many motherboards.

[silent forge]

Oh wow, sounds like it might not even make it outside of the domestic market

That's too bad, I was considering this as an alternative to the Pocket DMG

[tame narwhal]

It's gonna be expensive. I'm not sure how many will really pull the trigger.

[naive viper]

Dang big sad

[scenic snow]

That's a shame. I was sort of interested in this. Mostly because I wasn't quite sure I understood what it was.

[lunar portal]

https://youtu.be/-O70KGEdnIM?si=Y9g-QVNBuJ3hvo43

It is real!

@tawny hawk

[tawny hawk]

[crystal horizon]

fingerprint magnet what the fuck

[lunar portal]

Not a fan of the colour, but surprised how well the screen gimmic works

[swift dock]

This looks a hell of a lot more reasonable than those initial renders

[crystal horizon]

it gives me massive old iPod vibes

with that metal back

[tawny hawk]

Super unique!

[swift dock]

Honestly I wish this used cheaper material and a cheaper chip and could be sub $200, the gimmick looks neat enough

[fiery scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-boi-he-thick-anthony-gif-13869893

[subtle gorge]

200 is not enough

My guess is 400+ usd

[true yarrow]

Sticks are too close together that drives me crazy

[devout quest]

wait this is real

how did we summon this

[lunar portal]

We had to do a sacrifice ceremony on a couple powkiddy devices and prey to the handheld gods 😂

[onyx aspen]

With sd888 already odin 2 is 299 or mini and we got rg405v at home

they have to price at least 250

Also design I wish they made like this but you make it like flip phone

But maybe it would not work because the controls would be unease

[fierce lily]

Sd888 is a rough choice

888 and 8 Gen 1 are notoriously bad for throttling and power draw etc

Especially since this thing has a 1:1 screen and all the demanding emulators are 4:3 or 16:9

[devout quest]

405V at home feels like one of the biggests insults you could give rn

[silent forge]

They won't because this is not a mass produced device, and it's metal, and it obviously has more complex construction, and an OLED screen, etc...

This isn't even trying to compete against the Odin 2 on value.

[onyx aspen]

Sorry Anbernic BTW 😭

[onyx aspen]

400 tho is crazy

[silent forge]

Some people pay 200+ for a metal shell alone

[onyx aspen]

True true

You are not wrong like it's unique device but Is it not enough like how greedy

[stark parrot]

I'd prefer a plastic shell for comfort at least, like the ones shown in the mock ups/preview images

[lean lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVZC7OXg9N0

[gilded cliff]

Ewww, AI "review".

[true yarrow]

I'm looking to see if I can acquire one on the used Market but as soon as I find one I'll order and then I'll have my review of it up just like I did with the lao tou le

[split jolt]

this is literally the least trustworthy retro handheld youtuber i can think of

[jaunty hemlock]

They do a good job collecting footage from foreign language socials that can be hard to even get into from the west in a much more easily accessible format.

I mean their actual additions to the content suck, but mute it and they technically are providing a useful service.

[lean lintel]

@gilded cliff @split jolt it's new footage, who cares?

[gilded cliff]

https://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/pages/AI-poised-to-drive-160-increase-in-power-demand.html

[lean lintel]

dude doesn't speak english so he uses a synthesized voiceover, this couldn't be more irrelevant

text to speech is not new & is not ai

[gilded cliff]

I don't think a scrap of info on a cheap vidja handheld is worth warming the whole planet over but hey, we all have our priorities. You do you.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/10/nx-s1-4842299/climate-disasters-death-tolls#:~:text=The definitive federal accounting of,wildfires routinely kill hundreds more

[lean lintel]

wtf are you on about? macs have had TTS for 20 years, discord has a TTS command, it's not ai, nor is it being done in a data-center

[gilded cliff]

If that video wasn't written by a machine then they're doing an impressive impression of one.

[lean lintel]

it's written in chinese, machine translated & then that script is read by a TTS program, this isn't hard

[gilded cliff]

Why are you acting like I just kicked your dog? If I was wrong, fine, but chill tf out.

Youtube is flooded with AI garbage these days.

[lean lintel]

lmao I'm not, we get it, you don't like 'ai', but that's completely irrelevant to this

[lean lintel]

maybe don't smugly accuse people of not having their 'priorities' straight re: the planet without knowing what you're talking about & not expecting to get challenged on it 👍

[gilded cliff]

Go an and post another couple paragraphs about how totally not mad you are.

(They're not gonna date you.)

[true yarrow]

• throws a flag on the field and States unsportsmanlike conduct on all parties

[lean lintel]

go post some more links about how much you don't understand what ai is, and no worries to that second part lol

[subtle gorge]

I can get one for you

[devout quest]

my guy the reason for climate change is the big ass companies

[fading eagle]

there is no singular reason for climate change, but also I don't think this is super on topic here

consooomers blaming the companies they are buying things from for selling them things while the companies blame the consooomer for buying it is a great way for dilution of responsibility to result in nothing actually getting done though

besides, we're all doing our part by gaming on 5 watt tdp e-waste rather than 650 watt desktop PCs hooked up to 70" TVs anyway, right?

[jaunty hemlock]

I mean I definitely hate the AI industry for all the reasons people do that right now, but… laying this at the feet of a YouTube channel that manually collects and combines clips of retro handhelds starts to really feel a lot like blaming pollution on people who don’t recycle.

Even if we assume every part that could be AI here is, it’s still negligible compared to the uptime on any given business trying to generate content at scale or develop a next generation model that tells you to eat glue and rocks 0.01% less often.

If there’s actual AI here at all, it’s the kind that’s now so solved it can run natively on those ARM laptop chips drawing less power than an x86 laptop uses to play YouTube videos or run Office.

[naive viper]

He posted a video on the device this channel is for and you guys just go off lol I don't get it

[lean lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dCEk3_4qSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W51JituIiy8

think this second one shows off ZZZ

[naive viper]

Those colors are killing me

[lean lintel]

ikr? I keep telling myself i don't need it lol, can't even fathom what it costs

[naive viper]

I really like the design of it all but the colors I'd just grab a white or something

[lean lintel]

i dig the gold on black, otherwise i'd just get black on black

[naive viper]

I wonder what the temps are after a bit of gaming

[lean lintel]

good point, can't remember if there's active cooling.. maybe they have the metal shell acting as a giant heatsink 😂

[crystal horizon]

🧯

Free with all orders

[low nacelle]

Will it be enough to contribute to global warming?!

[naive viper]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-smirk-try-not-to-laugh-gif-20026966

[gilded cliff]

I made one off-handed comment out of emotion because I've had my own art scraped by these ghouls and someone decided to react like I delivered them a ghost-pepper suppository.
None of this had to go on that long.

If I owe an apology to the video producer, then consider this to be it. I was rash. I jumped the gun. I apologize.

I won't apologize for hating AI like Kendrick Lamar hates Drake.

[true yarrow]

sending pm

[lean lintel]

You made an incorrect comment about the nature of the video, which I calmly corrected, then you doubled down & smugly attacked my values, to which I defended myself, at which point you got petty & childish.

You seem to have misread my tone & created a false narrative in your head. I'm not the type to let go when attacked but I also wasn't the one who dragged it out into the mud.

[gilded cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-yawn-dont-care-bored-gif-14699324

[lean lintel]

I offer an olive branch & you continue to be childish and petty, very mature

[gilded cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-penguin-boring-pudgy-yawn-gif-10960138437947831459

[lean lintel]

If that's how you want to be then may your sub-par art get scraped by a thousand AIs & thicken the surrounding air with the pollution from it, blocked.

[gilded cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/xluna-high-five-gif-25422702

[crystal horizon]

Made me laugh way more than it should have

Thanks for reminding me to go shut off my desktop

[safe cargo]

So have we actually seen this thing rotate its display to horizontal yet? I’ve looked over the videos I’ve found and they all seem to be playing portrait

[lean lintel]

this one at like 4:10 #1196053717548535828 message

the whole rotation thing is almost entirely pointless anyway since it's such a nearly square aspect ratio

[safe cargo]

That was my thought too, seems a little gimmicky but maybe if the price is right

I don’t have a problem

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-cat-cute-kitty-begging-gif-15218653

[lean lintel]

yah, it's neat but it's probably like.. steamdeck money lol

[safe cargo]

Steam deck really ruins a lot of the high end things I see here. Like form factor and portability obviously still make some of them viable, but the deck is just so much better at most things that I’d take the portability hit for the benefits a lot of the time

I do love me a Gameboy form factor though

Just really don’t need something this powerful to play Gameboy

[lean lintel]

I feel it, kinda hard to justify high-end android devices near that price point unless portability & battery life are big factors for you (they are for me at least, plus I already have a pretty high end desktop). Yah this form factor is cool & all but like.. something 16:9 would be better with that much power & the cube can do a lot of it for probably less than half the price. Still, I'd imagine this is a low-volume niche kind of thing & there is value in that for those that want something exotic.

[safe cargo]

I have the OLED deck, the cube, and a miyoo mini, and I feel like that covers pretty much every base. I have the ultraportable pocketable, the midpower less pocketable and the high power for everything else that either doesn’t run or looks better in 16:9. Combined with a high end pc I can do pretty much anything I want

But things like this are so interesting and cool that I can’t help but look

[lean lintel]

exactly, nobody needs a lambo, but you can't help but want one 😁

[fading eagle]

the problem is that for things like gamecube or n64 emulation a stoled or ally X often will have just as good battery life as an android handheld

the battery life argument usually relies on comparing a RP4 playing ocarina of time to a stoled playing elden ring rather than apples to apples

or they rely on picking an x86 with bad battery life like an OG ally or legion go I guess

[lean lintel]

Apples aside, I'm just not into big devices, like even the odin 2 isn't something I'd consider, & personally there's no way I'd bring an x86 device out of the house or play one in public. At that point I could just sit at my desk & play in really big ultrawide or stream to an arm handheld (for anything it couldn't do natively). I'm glad that segment exists, but it's not for me (until they get smaller & much more efficient for the higher end stuff at least)

[onyx aspen]

Now the problem is would you choose ally x or stoled for only device or have secondary device that focus on pure emulation

[fading eagle]

I think there’s an argument to be made that once you have a 1080p screen and full size sticks going back to baby switch sticks and low res can be hard

[onyx aspen]

Mmm imagine choosing og ally for pc games then having middle device that it's decent enough to play ps2 and gamecube and small one that is retro device

Don't forget about Corpo devices as well like 3ds

Ideal dream is to have at least five handheld devices

One for pc one for pure emulation One for retro games One for Corpo one for another device like switch 2 , maybe xbox or ps handheld or ally 2 or legion go 2 and steam deck 2

Very difficult choice

[scenic snow]

It's a shame nothing happened with this. It's just so silly.