AYN Odin 2

[tardy ravine]

I would 1000% hate using my actual phone as an emulator and just carrying around a controller for it. Having a dedicated older phone with a backbone controller or something is definitely a better prospect but I'd still rather have a dedicated device where it's all like a thing and together

[heady badger]

yea i shat on the GPD for ages coz of that

[gusty crane]

Nothing like a good analog joystick in your ear while talking on the phone

[heady badger]

ah this reminds me of the time i argued with someone about this on the channel back in the early days

[tardy ravine]

Genuinely I don't think it would be as good of an experience, though maybe with one of the more expensive telescopic controllers it would be fine

[heady badger]

oh it isnt

i tried

the other guy was pro controller and he was claiming all retro handhelds are pointless coz the control + phone covers everything

but he also told me RG351p is 4:3 screen too so take of that what you will

[urban carbon]

21:9 sucks dick, stop saying it's a phone with a controller attached it's not true and that's not even mentioning the active cooling

I also find all of the telescopic controllers buttons and dpad and ergos subpar

[inland slate]

bros a little angy

[urban carbon]

Nah I'm chillin

[rustic flicker]

There are very few phones in 21:9

And no handhelds

You're thinking of ultrawide monitors

Phones these days (and a couple handhelds) typically come in 20:9

[ember plume]

As promised. Your request.

[delicate bridge]

Tbh because I haven't been impressed with performance of android handhelds yet, my main daily driver has been phone + kishi for the last 2 years , I've had a great time

Completed many PS2, 3ds games in particular

But the phone I use for that Is a seperate phone to my actual phone I use to call and email etc

[opal pawn]

This is actually stunning

[frank halo]

thats like an energy drink - orange grape burst

[unreal walrus]

thats a good thing

need more just fuckin

early 2000's color in the gaming world

[ember plume]

We gotta get eXtremeRate to take note of niche handhelds.

They make awesome shells for gaming devices.

[upper kiln]

Oh wow!

It's gorgeous

In a way I'm glad it isn't real because I would end up preordering one

But I'm also sad it isn't real

Amazing work

[upper kiln]

You're not lying!

Look at this beauty

[tardy ravine]

20:9 isn't much better than 21:9 for emulation lol. People already don't like letterboxing for 4:3 content on a 16:9 display, having it even for widescreen content sounds annoying

[delicate bridge]

I find the really wide-screen 20:9 etc best for ds and 3ds

Have one big screen to the left and lower screen to the right that is pressable by right thumb

Like I prefer that over 4:3 or 16:9 for those 2 systems

[tardy ravine]

That makes sense. Personally I just use a modded n3ds xl for those systems but yeah I could see a wide ratio being good to have two similarly sized screens next to each other!

If I was to get an old phone and backbone controller it would be for gc and ps2 mainly and I'd want the screen to be 16:9

[ember plume]

my current controller.

[tardy ravine]

What are those on the sticks???

Though knowing extremerate does chameleon colors for dualsense buttons makes me want to do this myself, I have their buttons on one of my modded GBAs and they're gorgeous

[rustic flicker]

Alright, wasn't saying anything about that

20:9 is what you want if Android games are really important, however

But since you brought it up, complaining about letterboxing on a wide handheld is so weird.

You get extra space and options for all different sorts of systems.

Sorry for the convenience

[frosty beacon]

3ds and ds are incredible on an ultra wide system fwiw

[tardy ravine]

I assume the person you were responding to who said "21:9 sucks dick" was talking about for emulation lol. Personally I'm fine with the letterboxing you get with 4:3 on a 16:9 display but I think even I'd get annoyed with it if it was on an ultra wide display, like that's a lot of wasted space if you're not planning on playing anything that takes up that whole screen. I also haven't come across many native android games, at least ones that I'd want to play on a handheld, that aren't just 16:9, though most of what I've tried on like my rp3+ is ports.

21:9 is great for a phone though, it's nice for scrolling through stuff

[frosty beacon]

Just as a follow up to my comment

[rustic flicker]

What phone do you use that's 21:9? I know Sony and Motorolla made a couple

[delicate bridge]

Ps1 wide-screen hacks on 20:9 also nice with the games that work

Spyro upscale in widescreen looks crazy good

[cedar nexus]

How I played it on my flip. At 3x with widescreen using duckstation

[delicate bridge]

Bliss init

[rustic flicker]

Ah that's be 16:9 though right?

20:9 widescreen Gamecube can be done too, a lot more fiddling than 21:9

[frosty beacon]

I agree that widescreen really isn’t as bad as people say, especially for 3d systems. N64 widescreen hacks are also super nice and fill up the whole screen.

I can also see why people wouldn’t like it for things that are mostly strict 4:3, such as nes, snes, etc

[cedar nexus]

I think. I don’t care too much about ratios. Just a good screen

[frosty beacon]

Widescreen hacks go brrrrt

[tardy ravine]

Which controller is that? Would you recommend this setup?

[frosty beacon]

That’s the razer edge. But the controller is super nice, one of my favorite dpads, but it tends to be expensive, and it’s clicky which some people hate. I enjoy it a ton, but a phone with the controller should be functionally the same

Controller is razer kishi V2

[tardy ravine]

$400, huh? Honestly not that bad now that I've looked around, like those controllers are expensive and a nice old phone with a beefy enough chipset is around another hundo to hundo fiddy. Still around $100 more for the Edge tho, maybe that's not great idk

[frosty beacon]

It’s overall value makes sense if you are looking at android. If you compare it to the deck, then it doesn’t make sense. It depends on the users wants, and genuinely I love the device but it wouldn’t be my first recommendation. It is a super nice companion if you already have a deck or ally though, many who own this also own one of those.

You can also find used ones in market place closer to 300 every now and then

[tardy ravine]

Yeah I want an android device for high end emulation because I honestly do not like emulating on my Deck, the pc interface of the emulators is pretty clunky on a handheld even with emudeck and emulation station and everything

[frosty beacon]

Yeah same, this is my go to for GameCube. Both ayn and pocket air also look good for android higher end emulation

In terms of upcoming stuff

[tardy ravine]

Pocket Air was interesting me until they said BOM was already over $300 so it's almost definitely gonna be stupid expensive

[frosty beacon]

Ah that would be a hard sell for a d1200. Will be a nice screen at least

[rustic flicker]

For emulation it actually outpaces the Deck

[frosty beacon]

I’ve found it depends. For instance, without skip efb that is somewhat game breaking, galaxy can slog on the edge, but the deck destroys galaxy no issue. I’ve found n64 on the deck somewhat disappointing but love it on the edge. And of course the deck can do just much more emulation, such as wiiu

I’d say the deck has the edge having both from personal experience, but I prefer to play on the edge

[tender lynx]

got it. the deck has the razer edge

[ember plume]

Kontrol Freeks Battle Royales…can get them from Ali sold unbranded but exact same for cheap too.

I have a purple pair too…they come in black or purple.

[ember plume]

They do chameleon for nearly everything…the triggers were wrong model for my controller same as touch pad (I had to make mods for it to fit) so to make do I bought really good stick on ones from Play Vital…which are basically the same company so the chameleon is perfect match.

[ember plume]

Also nice taste same style as my controller

[pastel spindle]

Looks like razer kishi v2

Great controller

[glacial hazel]

i wonder how much they're working on the loki now..

[frank halo]

proceeds to brand the highest spec odin 2 with windows as loki lite

[green crypt]

past 8gb is a whole lotta ram for an android device

[frank halo]

exactly, for an android device

[shadow python]

Switch emulation benefits from more ram, also the new Cassia emulator.

[green crypt]

yup looking forward to cassia myself. don't really expect it to be running games that would use up all that ram anyway any time soon but more than willing to be wrong there

and the target ram requirement for switch emulation was 6gb ram for phones but that may just be unique to skyline/strato. don't know if yuzu demands more than that

[shadow python]

Yuzu seems to want more ram, games have been known to run better on 12gb ram plus.
It requires at least 12gb ram to run TOTK.

[green crypt]

very curious what the pricing will be

[gusty crane]

I think it’s more of a way to future proof the device.

[glacial hazel]

yeah that too

888+ with 12gb ram aint gonna be considered low-spec any time soon

[spark sandal]

$20 maximum or no go.

[hushed vessel]

all depends on the price

[fallow hill]

if it actually runs windows this could be fun

[main totem]

16gb ram with Windows might actually make it usable.

[heady badger]

Metal shell......? Yea 400 USD +

[celest dragon]

It won't be metal just that internal unit from what I saw

[main totem]

I'd rather have plastic because metal will be heavier.

[heady badger]

Plastic first to release. Means metal might happen

[heady badger]

Id take the metal coz I broke the plastic of my Odin

When trying to take it apart

[urban carbon]

I think metal is a gimmick, cost more, heavier, problems with Wi-Fi no thanks

High quality abs plastic is the way

[heady badger]

until it cracks

then you wish it was sturdier

[urban carbon]

What kind of cheap ass plastic formulas are these Chinese manufacturers using? I've got a NES and a SNES in my closet with zero cracks, hell I've got a Mad Catz PS1 controller from 1996 with zero cracks in it

[heady badger]

to be fair, the plastic on the Odin is very sturdy

its so sturdy it broke my guitar pick when i try to open it

so i had to put a little more force to open it.....but the clips wouldnt give way hence......crack

[urban carbon]

rip

[glacial hazel]

the cracking was due to a manufacturing/design fault

which they admitted and then later deleted evidence of said admission

[heady badger]

If I opened it 16months ago I would have known.......

[odd tundra]

If this thing have the chance to run window just like the old odin pro ,
will the 16Gb ram worth it?

[unreal walrus]

i guess?

[green crypt]

too early to tell

if it's gonna be anything like windows on odin pro then no not worth it 😆

[glacial hazel]

i dont think there'll be any sort of winodin this time round

i dont think there's any other snapdragon chip with windows support apart from the customised 855 they released

the only reason winodin works in the first place is bc the 845 is already pretty close to the chipset they used for windows-on-arm

bunch of people coping in ayncord over potential $400+ pricing rn

"oh no android handhelds are totally viable at that price, the steam deck is big and has poopy battery life so that totally justifies charging more for an arm handheld that can't even run x86 stuff"

[celest dragon]

I think people are talking about the Windows emulator space with the announcement of Cassia

[celest dragon]

And this but unironically

[glacial hazel]

lol

[glacial hazel]

sure but cassia has barely more proof of existence than strato at the moment

do people just not remember the idea of buying for what a device can do now, rather than what people promise it could do in the future

winlator exists, but ehhh

[green crypt]

well if aya or ayn won't release a budget android handheld, at least there's still orange pi with that rk3588 device 😆

[celest dragon]

In the emulator space HYPE IS IN OUR BLOOD jk I don't care about windows 16gb is mass overkill should be 8 / 10 / 12

[green crypt]

closed source and has virustotal warnings, I'll have to pass on that one for now

[glacial hazel]

so convenient of them to tell us the release date so early!

03/05/2088

[glacial hazel]

yeaaa

im not happy about cassia being closed source but at least the devs have a track record of working openly and transparently on open-source stuff in the past

and they pinky-promised to open the source if they stop working on it, for all that's worth

better than tahlreth's "fuck everyone who even looks at a penguin with anything less than nuclear hatred" approach

though we do have aethersx2 vanced nethersx2 now

[shadow parrot]

Didn't it get partially open-sourced?

[green crypt]

unsure whether or not its the parts that virustotal flagged. hopefully someone looks into it

[slow cloud]

I don't know how many times I have to tell people that <10 random Virustotal flags means nothing, especially because they're all heuristics

[green crypt]

cool, still won't install it just yet

[urban carbon]

I don't like being a beta tester for anything, it's on version 1.1 at the moment, maybe I'll try it out in like 6 months or a year

[glacial hazel]

ayn throwing more shit at the wall and seeing what sticks

[glacial hazel]

bastard beat me by half a second

[gusty crane]

So its $299 for 8/128 ?

[glacial hazel]

i reckon they're gonna pull some bullshit like "oh its $299 on IGG only"

if not

good

but yknow

[glacial hazel]

i would assume so

[unreal walrus]

is that a clear blue shell

[glacial hazel]

im not sure if i'd wanna go a clear shell again

its nice, but i kinda do like how the solid shells look a bit better?

im worried about the texture tho

[gusty crane]

I've had both

Black and Clear Purp

Clear shells feel waaaay better

[glacial hazel]

so i've heard

and i do like the matte texture on my odin

[heady badger]

crystal blue shell..........yea im buying it

[unreal walrus]

tbh 300$ is steamdeck territory

[heady badger]

also its not teh G3x? then it has to be 888+

[unreal walrus]

the refurbished ones are 320 atm

[heady badger]

there is no way its 8 Gen 1 or 8 Gen 2

and its confirmed better than the 888

[glacial hazel]

nowadays, sure

but thats only for eu and na

[heady badger]

$350 for 12gb ram, 256, and 888+ isnt a bad deal

thats about the cost of a phone

which is what this is really

[glacial hazel]

whereas even in australia i can get a steam deck for about $500

so once they hit the $400 mark it gets iffy

[heady badger]

but $350-$400 for 12/256 and a 888+ isnt horrible

888 and above chips are still very expensive

im actually kinda sold

i agree 400+ you would be better off with a steam deck, but i personally do not think its a bad buy

provided they arent shipping this in 2027

[unreal walrus]

has there been any stated reason for all of the loki issues?

[ember plume]

That’s a real item in the photo? I am curious what kind of table it sits on.

[unreal walrus]

skateboard

[jaunty rampart]

What do you guys think of the 300$ price for the Odin 2 guys?

[ember plume]

I see they worked out how to get LED and transparency by making a big light shielding.

[jaunty rampart]

I know is close to Steamdeck territory … but android battery for sure will be better than x86

[glacial hazel]

im still tentative on saying this is $300 retail

[jaunty rampart]

Plus there’s a chance for finally ps2 and GC without tinkering anymore

[glacial hazel]

apparently the igg page offers a $40 discount

so maybe we're looking at $349 retail

which is what most people should be looking at anyway

don't give ayn your money a year in advance

[jaunty rampart]

Honestly if the battery is great and the chip is powerful enough for not thinker anything, I’m ok with a $300 tag

[glacial hazel]

they're a handheld company not a bank

[ember plume]

It’s the $199 handheld 2 so it will be ||$398 jk||

[gusty crane]

Since its not a g3x it an expected price

[ember plume]

Super Early Bird price.

Remember first Odin they gave the chip model away on transparent model rendering 😅

Also remember their icon was a blue model too.

That never happened.

[odd tundra]

so it is almost confirmed 888+?
there is no button LED in the clear shell in odin pro

[ember plume]

No due to light bleed

This one looks like complete shielding from bleed.

But also the thumb light rings are missing.

But I think see them inside still?

[heady badger]

if chip is as good as they say it is, i think 299 is fair

anything lesser, i would say they are out of their minds

[glacial hazel]

lol

[jaunty rampart]

I really just want better battery, ps2 GC and even 3Ds smooth if possible , and halls sticks

[heady badger]

ah fml

[ember plume]

Better battery than Odin 1?

Odin 1 battery was amazing

[glacial hazel]

cant see them reducing the battery size

[jaunty rampart]

Yeah I mean this is gonna cost 100 Dlls more haha

[glacial hazel]

and with a newer chip and (hopefully) better software, the battery life should improve even if they don't increase the battery size

[ember plume]

The bigger battery was originally only going to be for Pro but they put it in Base too.

[west stirrup]

Snapdragon 7 Gen 2 🤔

[ember plume]

Once again same with Odin 1 the little oval shaped detail on the bezel is now invisible or gone.

I always wondered what it was. A light sensor or something.

[unreal walrus]

selfie camera

[ember plume]

IR blaster maybe.

[scarlet summit]

8 Gen 5 will be out by the time this actually ships so I don't think 8+ Gen 1 or 7+ Gen 2 is too much to ask for.

[west stirrup]

I'm currently placing my peg on the 7 Gen 2

[heady badger]

ooo i didnt think about the 7+ gen 2. that stomps the 888+

[frosty beacon]

This real?

[gusty crane]

toats

[frosty beacon]

Wow, if they actually pull it off that’s solid pricing

[unreal walrus]

its the early bird price

[frosty beacon]

That confirmed?

[inland slate]

ye

[ember plume]

Super Early Fan price I imagine

With secret link probably same as Odin 1.

[frosty beacon]

When do they plan to stop drip feeding this shit lol

[glacial hazel]

when they ship the loki mini pro

[odd tundra]

may be it need the loki coupon to get the 299

just like the odin coupon for loki

[unreal walrus]

i think i have realized ayns businesses practices are shit

[frosty beacon]

Very limited run-esque

They do release solid shit though, just very sparingly. Like I would actually have considered a Loki if it was available like a year ago

[glacial hazel]

absolute scum move if they do this

[gusty crane]

I don't think IGG has any coupon system

[errant gull]

$299 is the early bird pricing.

[jaunty rampart]

Damn… so is gonna be 350

That would be too much 😦

Unless it runs up to Wii U

[errant gull]

Is there a Wii U android emulator? I don't think so

[jaunty rampart]

Lol you’re right

Ok, ps2, GameCube and 3Ds smooth without tinkering at all

That , I would maybe be ok

[glacial hazel]

well you've got switch

and most of the big wii u games got ported to switch

[errant gull]

Ayn has said the chip will be better than an SD888 and is using Snapdragon branding so it will probably do those as perfectly as the emulators can on android

[jaunty rampart]

True

[glacial hazel]

gamecube/wii should be especially good

[ember plume]

It’ll be 500 when Amazon sellers get hold of it 🤣

[errant gull]

GameCube/Wii is pretty great on the SD855

Stupid Odin using the 845

[jaunty rampart]

I’ll wait at least a year before buying Odin 2

Maybe by that time more handhelds might catch up

I was a Linux guy, that just turned into android

[celest dragon]

Yeah this price is potentially crazy good tbh for the spec details so far very exciting

[ember plume]

TBH I think it is the only way to be competitive

Though I wish just one handheld company would somehow gain rights to an exclusive game deal somehow. Imagine that.

[unreal walrus]

how would that
make any sense for anyone involved

[ember plume]

How do wishes usually make sense, I don’t think many do.

[delicate bridge]

The only way that would ever happen these days, is through some kind of hardware gimmick (eg playdate)

[ember plume]

Imagine one of these companies in 20 years become the next Nintendo.

[delicate bridge]

I would imagine the next big exclusive handheld will incorporate AR and AI into the games , otherwise no point of exclusive deals like that anymore

[unreal walrus]

smoking balls

[ember plume]

Next minute Ayn buys Sega 🤣

Or vice versa.

Sega Odin

[delicate bridge]

What so they can send out 10 consoles per week to customers

That's the gimmick

[celest dragon]

Unless one of these companies develops its own OS it won't happen and none of these companies seem to have the software chops for that.

Honestly getting an in-house emulator team would be amazing if it could be backed up, but it's also a road of legal challenges.

[delicate bridge]

I think there should definitely be more homebrew roms I'd support teams that do it

Like brand new games that 'work' on ps1 , that can be emulated

Like the Bloodborne ps1 demake

[tender lynx]

that doesn't work on PS1 though

or emulators

i did buy the rom of xeno crisis gold for genesis though, that was cool

[delicate bridge]

I know, but I'm saying something like people making Roms of new games for ps1 emulator would be so cool

[celest dragon]

Game development is a whole different ball game, I'd just be happy to have a system that has decent android support post release at this point

[delicate bridge]

AI will help with that soon

[frank halo]

actual android smartphone + telescopic/portable controller unfortunately

[smoky flicker]

7 gen 2 is non exist, but 7+ gen 2 exist. But if ayn using this chipset, that will be very exciting

[unreal walrus]

yeah clear blue is the best one

[glacial hazel]

clearly the best

[unreal walrus]

i am not biased for blue at all nope

[glacial hazel]

didnt quite realise how thicc the twodin is

[unreal walrus]

i like the 16bit color for the odin too

[heady badger]

The atomic purple........

I hope it's not pink again

I'd still buy the black just for the LEDs......

[rough hazel]

Bigger joysticks ftw

[unreal walrus]

actual pink would go hard

[odd tundra]

blue is cool , but without LED light again

[unreal walrus]

I dont get the needs for LED's

[odd tundra]

I got clear black for my odin pro , so I don't need it at all. But I think someone would be happy with it

[glacial hazel]

the cold grey would go hard for a ps1 style handheld ngl

[urban carbon]

Black with sakura PlayStation buttons, ultimate ps2 handheld

No other choice now that snes jp was stolen from me

I feel like a handhelds job is to be as least distracting and intrusive as possible so you can get absorbed and lost in the game. These other colors like green purple and blue just serve to remind me that I'm playing on a third party device. I guess I have no nostalgia for them either cuz I never owned a console with a wacky color

[glacial hazel]

i mean, i have an atomic purple odin 1 and the colour's never been that much of a distraction for me

[urban carbon]

Eh it's just how I am, I always pick the boring classic option with things. I do the same thing with knives

Oh you have a gold and silver option? As well as a camo option? Yeah give me the one with the wooden handle

[delicate bridge]

Camo option would go dumb hard

I would even buy a powkiddy x18s if it came in camo

[urban carbon]

https://www.bladehq.com/item--QSP-Hawk-Liner-Lock-Knife-Verawood--113955 I bought this guy a year ago and is such a good little knife, the Verawood is aging beautifully. Just imagine some monsters choose to buy the carbon fiber versions. A true gentleman's blade

Wood grain needs to be an option for every handheld

It looks kind of goofy on a handheld but in a charming sort of way

Great thing about knives is they don't lose their value like handhelds, in fact sometimes they go up in price

[west stirrup]

I call it a 7 Gen 2 with the full intention of adding the +
But I'm horrible at remembering to add it

[smoky flicker]

yes indeed Qualcomm is very strangely named, from 7 gen 1 to 7+ gen 2. So maybe you will accidentally forget to call it correctly

[celest nova]

That would be my plan. Already got the Sakura PS1 buttons on the Odin 1, so would definitely do it again for Odin 2.
Only reason I didn't get the cold grey last time was because I got a screaming deal on a black Pro second-hand.

[tardy ravine]

Clear Blue looking gorgyose

I'm somewhat interested in this but Ayn seems kinda unfortunate to buy from lol, or at least to preorder from

[surreal parrot]

I keep saying 8Bitdo should buy them.

[opal pawn]

Just make sure you already have a device you're happy with for the next 6-12 months in the mean time 😊

[quasi blaze]

Yeah really it just takes a while

Which makes sense you're dealing with crowdfunding stuff from a company who, at the time of the first Odin had no track record

Personally, I had both an Odin Pro and Lite (sold the Lite to a friend), they're great devices and I will happily back an Odin 2

[sour spoke]

I love my Odin pro for all reasons except one that almost made me sell it a bunch of times. The facebuttons are really not for me, not even with the sakura buttons which improves them a little. They are way too clunky to press down and it almost feels like they want to stick until they finally rise up from the underworld. I read somewhere that the Odin 2 were to use the same facebuttons for god knows what reason. Am i the only one with this dilemma?

For all other reasons i'm gonna back this, but if just could get my kind of buttons i would follow Ayn to the end of the world.

[rustic flicker]

After everything Ayn has done you're still gonna preorder it huh?

[fair plank]

Ooof

So like $350 probably if you don’t loan them money for 18 months?

$299 sounds fair if that were just the price

Rather than a FOMO early bird thing

Like, you can get a refurb steam deck for the same money now

[woeful heath]

Yeah they got me with blue, ordering

[celest dragon]

I'll preorder for the discount cuz I am fine with the delay I like the products

[celest dragon]

Fair depends on the SoC though it has to be priced according to the parts pack leading guess is the 8+gen 1 but with the specs so far it seems like they're being pretty fair with the price better than the above and it's probably the best value handheld in its market (Razer / Pimax )

[worthy idol]

it's not just delays, ayn cancels product during the campaign. you can give them an interest free loan for a product that is never produced.

[cedar nexus]

Then they are too lazy to take down the color way sku form their site for months. I want my soild blue Odin.

[celest dragon]

Eh I'm still fine with that, it's annoying but it's expendable cash for what is likely my golden device unless of course something better is announced.

[errant gull]

Agreed. Did that with my Odin Base.

[ember plume]

so white does have white bezel, it’s flip flopped again.

Sadly it looks like no LEDs again for clear shells.

[heady badger]

i mean this makes sense

the light bleed

[ember plume]

I know.

Still the can develop a light shield.

You can have transparency with LEDs, I have modded my Miyoo for no bleed so it is possible.

[gusty crane]

If they sell the controller boards like they do with the Odin it won’t be hard to change them out with the led versions

[ember plume]

They giving out the watered down purple again. Are they afraid of saturation.

Grape Purple > Atomic Purple

[spark sandal]

Purple user name. Checks out.

[mellow shadow]

I like the pink one

It looks like powdered juice

[inland slate]

led’s on the purple one would look fire

[slow cloud]

someone modded an original Odin to try that, it looks meh at best

[shadow python]

This isn't real btw if anyone thinks it is.

This is the legit colour variants

[ember plume]

Even the blue LED inside the blue shell…let it bleed who cares.

[ember plume]

#real

[celest nova]

Oh, how I would love a green one!

[fair plank]

At this point somebody could sell me dogshit with game controls attached if it were a fun shade of green

I have less than zero use for yet another 3.5” 640x480 handheld, especially if it isn’t pocketable, and yet I’m eagerly waiting on a review video of the transparent green 2S

[celest nova]

I was tempted by the green 2S, but didn't see a use for it so passed.

[fair plank]

You take that back

[jaunty rampart]

My problem is that I want to see reviews for Odin 2 before buying

But the reviews are coming once the device starts shipping, and by that time the device is going to be probably $350+

I don’t want to pay the $299 for backing up without seeing with my eyes what kind of power will it have

[heady badger]

heres to make it simple for you.......if the SOC is 870 and back, just skip it if you already have odin. The jump in emu from 845 to 870 isnt huge

if you dont have an odin, its a worthy consideration, but note whats holding android emu back is the the emulator development

my 8 gen 2 can run ps2 pretty well, but its brute forcing it, rather than being optimized

[jaunty rampart]

Ohh…. I see.. so is better optimized in windows devices right… except those kinda drain battery quicker

[jaunty rampart]

Thanks This is good to know

[jaunty rampart]

That’s sad. Right now android is my favorite for emulation, more than windows or Linux. Daijisho just make it so simple in my opinion.

[heady badger]

that will always be the issue with windows based systems until they do something drastic. and there is nothing wrong with having an overspeced android handheld. the issue is that you will be waiting for something that might not happen

and at the 299 price, $100 off the steam deck price, you could get the steam deck for additional 100 more, and already have the ability to play emu relatively good AND have the option for pc games

granted they are still seperate markets, but you cannot deny that there is a crossover there, albit kinda small crossover

[jaunty rampart]

Yeah I think I’ll just wait (I have Odin lite, and Steamdeck, but I really don’t like Emudeck for emulation)

[heady badger]

the 870 is still a good chip if you are also interested in android gaming (like i am) and athersx2 will have better performance. but it wont be that WOW i can play everything flawlessly

you want the same feeling when i finally upgraded from my ryzen 2600 to 7700x. i felt like someone slapped me on the back of the head

[slow cloud]

it would be really really dumb for them to say >870 and tease other chips and then say "well it's actually just an 870 but overclocked or whatever"

like I see no reason why they would do that

[heady badger]

They did that somewhat with Odin one

Teased performance better than 855

But it's overclocked 845 + cooling

[slow cloud]

that's a lot different than just saying ">870" and then saying "it's not these chipsets that are better than an 870"

[frank halo]

holding on to this screenshot

[slow cloud]

why are so many people just being pointlessly contrarian for no reason

[delicate bridge]

If they actually do this (false promises), then you can bet your bottom dollar that they will also take 1-2 years from preorders to actually ship anything AGAIN

[frank halo]

welp, good thing my odin pro is on the way instead

[celest nova]

Agreed. I think there's a difference between saying "performance will be better than an 870" and outright saying ">870". It would be royally stupid of them to say that and then turn around and give us an overclocked 870.

Not that they wouldn't, but even Ayn has to know that'd be bad for their image.

And likely affect presales.

[frank halo]

who knows

people will still buy it

[celest nova]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[cedar nexus]

So bad

[worthy idol]

With what they have done for the past year, protecting their image is the least of their concerns.

[cedar nexus]

They still have the influx of Retroid money coming in. Allegedly!

https://tenor.com/view/squirrelly-dan-gif-22970567

[delicate bridge]

Moorechip parent company of both right?

Kind of like how all Chinese brand phones are owned by Oppo

[ember plume]

And Nexadas.

And Andy (Bernie?) and Nicole are a trio Anbernic is named after 🤣

Not really IDK. Would love to know what the word Anbernic came from though.

According to Taki anyway who has met the team… Retroid and Ayn are run by brothers.

[frank halo]

This is some next level conspiracy shit

Tell me more

[urban carbon]

It's the most believable explanation for their name I've heard yet

[frank halo]

ayn drip feeding odin 2 specs meanwhile my odin pro just arrived

[delicate bridge]

Enjoy, it's a great console, will tie you over until the years for the next Odin

[cedar nexus]

Any new information?

[unreal walrus]

blue color, 299 for the early bird price

thats it really

[cedar nexus]

Oh I saw all that. Was hoping they dropped all the specs information.

[slow cloud]

Latest speculation is a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but there's nothing firm yet

[errant gull]

It'll be an overclocked 870 because Ayn sucks

[worthy idol]

then right before preorders go up, cpu changed to G cloud 720g that is overclocked.

[unreal walrus]

thats happened before?

[heady badger]

They announced d1000c or something for Odin lite, but gave us d900 when it was time to release

So yes it has happened

Which is kinda funny coz on paper the d900 is the overall better chip compared to the 845......only loses to gpu related stuff

But we know all about the driver support for mediatek

[glacial hazel]

$300+ for an OC 870 lol

what is this, pimax again?

[fair plank]

everybody waiting for one manufacturer or another to find some magical chip option nobody else has thought of to dethrone the t618 when in reality once that chip exists there is going to be a lot of handhelds using it like we already have for the current good value chips (rk3566, t618)

[cedar nexus]

I would 100% not be surprised by this. Also I doubt it’s snapdragon 8 Gen 1.

[heady badger]

But how is it better than 888/g3x.......

[cedar nexus]

I have trust issue with AYN from the Odin to the early Q4 2022 Loki

[heady badger]

Oh same here

It's more I'm wondeeing how would a oc 870 be better lol

Also room to oc 870 isn't hight considering it's already an oc 865

[cedar nexus]

Better heat and less power hungry

As in they don’t get as hot as the 888 or Gen 1. Also use less battery power

[urban carbon]

Apparently the soc is being announced today

[cedar nexus]

Source?

[urban carbon]

Nicole said it on ayn discord

[cedar nexus]

Oh it’s not in their news section. Only place I check on that discord. Saw something about they didn’t want to answer emails for the past 3 days.

Found it.

[delicate bridge]

They don't actually announce their news on the news section, I pointed that out to them, and they were like 🤷‍♂️

[urban carbon]

Yeah kind of a bad habit honestly

[cedar nexus]

Would be nice. If they did. Had to shift through the fanboy shit forever.

[frank halo]

i like how they say release and not announce

like they actually developed an SOC for this lmao

the fact they also say this isnt promising

[cedar nexus]

They aren’t Vale or have that type of money. To pull that off

[urban carbon]

I think the fact they're joking about it is more indicative that it's not

[frank halo]

also they still brainstorming on the day of announcing lol

[urban carbon]

How are you misinterpreting everything? Clearly they mean for us to brainstorm not them they've already picked it

[frank halo]

its ayn

[cedar nexus]

They took a lunch break during a QnA these are the greatest people

[frank halo]

[celest dragon]

Yeah that is definitely them saying that people in the threads are brainstorming

[delicate bridge]

They will put all the SOCs into a hat and pick out random one, announce it later

[slim drift]

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 on the Odin2 confirmed

[heady badger]

WTF

[glacial hazel]

no fucking way are they maintaining that price lmfao

[odd tundra]

wow 8 Gen2

[slim drift]

This just became an instant buy for me

[frank halo]

watch them have diff CPUs for base (299 super early bird) and pro model

[odd tundra]

d1200 for base model

[celest dragon]

They seem to clearly state that the 8GEN2 is in the $299 model in that image which is absurd let's hope it sticks

[glacial hazel]

"$40 discount for IGG" bull fucking shit

this is gonna be like $400 at retail

[celest dragon]

Probably

[glacial hazel]

well good luck to those forking out $300+ to wait over a year kekw

after that this thing is gonna sell like

[worthy idol]

hmmmm....

[frank halo]

d1200/8/128 vs sd8gen2/16/512 pricing

[celest dragon]

I won't be in a hurry with that SoC

[scarlet summit]

ok now I'm sure this won't ship until 2025

[celest dragon]

Regardless this device will be great because of the pressure it'll put on the market-- really makes devices like the Razer look ass

[worthy idol]

how? at least other companies ship products on time.

[celest dragon]

I don't understand your point, I'm saying regardless of shipping on time this product will put downward price pressure on those competitors which is good for everyone, even if this device gets delayed those other companies will have to close the gap in price and that will benefit the consumers who will get cheaper devices in better time

[worthy idol]

just saying ayn lost credibility. they cannot put out a product on time. other companies are just laughing at this powerpoint release. ayn is just not a competitor that is taken seriously anymore.

[celest dragon]

I very much doubt other companies are laughing at that cost-- because regardless consumers will adjust their expectations. This will benefit consumers.

[worthy idol]

Arthur from ayaneo is laughing at ayn. It won't change the pocket air release. He is not worried at all. Once he saw the loki campaign disaster. this is not a repeat of 2022.

[celest dragon]

Again I very much doubt that-- no it won't change the release date for a product already in production and with funds allocated, but it will definitely mean all future products will need to change and no one is laughing about that.

[scarlet summit]

This will still be a very good product even if it ships in 2026. You just gotta buy it when it actually becomes available instead of preordering now😂

[celest dragon]

The main issues would be if they overpromise on the SoC a lot of people are saying there is only one SoC on this line which would be the best possibility-- it'd be an intentional lie but not out of the realm of possibility that the $299 model changes SoC but I'll be hopeful it isn't like we can purchase it now based on these promises will have to see what the IGG says

[frank halo]

tiered early bird schedules/pricing

[frank halo]

"wont be another 6 months" can go both ways

[celest dragon]

Yeah it is also worth noting they have already confirmed $299 is the early bird price it will be more expensive later so it isn't actually that cheap though the marketing will run with that price

[frank halo]

inb4 ill be able to get this at retail first before the ktr1

[celest dragon]

Okay looks like we won't have to worry about a different SoC which was expected

I wonder if the marketing difference with all the small leaks was to avoid dropping the IGG (which in the past has been used as a marketing tool) and starting the official count from announcement to release

Which I'd prefer drop the IGG when in the release window

[meager pilot]

So how does 8 Gen 2 compare to the Steam Deck, like both running the same game in Dolphin or Aether/PCSX2

[celest dragon]

That does seem to be the case from another article I found in June I wonder if they managed a deal, Qualcomm has reduced prices or if they've arranged some alternative sourcing for better prices or is the markup up on the rest of a handheld excluding the SoC just that high

[opal pawn]

Very hyped for this. Crystal blue Odin 2 😊

[celest dragon]

I do think the chip has sold me on going in early bird though-- probably the 12GB / Blue Option

[smoky flicker]

8 gen 2 for $299, how???

[smoky flicker]

I think steam deck is more powerfull, but 8 gen 2 more efficient

[dawn island]

no longer rumor mill?

[dawn island]

steam deck is no doubt more powerful, and added bonus can handle ps2 games

[celest dragon]

I think I've seen comparisons of emulation between android and Steam Deck in the past be pretty close, it really depends on the emulator and the power of the device is less important compared to software optimization.

[celest dragon]

The original Odin could handle PS2 this will power through PS2 games for sure

[dawn island]

true, i cant cfm but i think 8gen2 has 100% ps2 playable libraries

[celest dragon]

This is definitely a Switch emulation targeted device + 3DS

[dawn island]

will be cassia ready too

im excited for one to play windows games on it hahah

[glacial hazel]

im tempted but last time i preordered i waited 5 months for an inferior product from what i was sold

[opal pawn]

Nicole confirmed that the T0 mold is done and the boards are ready so in comparison to the Odin IGG they are months ahead

[glacial hazel]

sooooo

retail only, thanks

[glacial hazel]

no pics no clicks

she *said those things

[celest dragon]

Yeah and an Android device is a lot simpler than a Windows device, and a lot of parts are being reused so the pipeline appears a lot smoother

[glacial hazel]

yes

she said those things

[celest dragon]

Oh my bad, yeah we will need further confirmation

She did say they are releasing more pics soon

So let's hope those release, a lot of people are hoping for the IGG to open soon I'll be glad to see pics before that happens

[urban carbon]

Which model I choose depends on the price really I'm expecting 300 350 and 400 and if that ends up being the case I'll go with 16 GB

If it ends up being substantially more I'll consider 12 GB

[celest dragon]

I'm thinking it'll be a bit more than that difference in pricing tbh a little higher on the upper tiers, does that mean you're going early bird?

[urban carbon]

This will be my first Android handheld at least dedicated anyway that's not a phone or a tablet

I'll probably pre-order yeah, easier for me to do it for $400 than it is for double or triple that with a Windows handheld

Less risk and investment

[frank halo]

im glad didint preorder the loki max but i still got one, used

[celest dragon]

I'm definitely eyeing the 12GB and no further-- the 16GB seems like it will only be useful for Cassia and tbh if I intend to run windows gaming I'd rather stream using Moonlight from my dedicated PC

[urban carbon]

My thinking is it's going to be my only Android handheld for probably at least three or four years so I'm just going to max out

[celest dragon]

I think by the time windows emulations is decent there'll be more powerful economical handhelds; a lot of people going crazy for the concept but the start of any emulation is always more miss than hit for the first couple years. Odin 3 tho

That's fair

[ember plume]

What’s the deal with the blue as IGG image.

Odin 1 IGG image was a blue one too that never came out.

[ember plume]

Is this official or edited?

[celest dragon]

If the Rick Astley in the background doesn't give it away, tis a joke

[ember plume]

I ask because I already did the same joke. If AYN officially copied my idea then?

[ember plume]

Also they have some good graphic design Rick aside and fall off when it comes to front centre IGG promo. Why IDK. Anyone even care about blue?

[celest dragon]

I find Starlings half-hearted confidence hilarious

[mighty turret]

It's alive!

[ember plume]

That was Rick.

[ember plume]

I guess I spoke too soon? Now it is just the logo

[ember plume]

Queue GPD claiming they are refurbished old chips.

[smoky flicker]

But 8 gen 2 still fresh flagship chip in this year, so their price still be high

[urban carbon]

African chips are cheap as hell, got the locals dying in the mines

[opal pawn]

I've already asked Taki if they are using African chips 🤣

[celest dragon]

As someone in Africa I would like to know where these chip mines are I'd like to go die there please

[ember plume]

What happens to the seconded chips?

https://www.phonearena.com/news/samsung-yield-on-snapdragon-chips-atrocious_id138616

[urban carbon]

We need you for when the Great War between Egypt and Ethiopia breaks out

[ember plume]

Maybe not related but the last Snapdragon chip only yielded 35% of the chips made could be sent to manufacturers to actually use,

So they ditched Samsung.

Makes me wonder how bad are the chips that don’t make the cut really, they just get destroyed IDK.

[celest dragon]

I am a loyal soldier 🫡

[urban carbon]

🫡

[polar nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/broad-city-salute-america-veterans-day-remembrance-gif-20281901

Going to preorder, but I am going to give it a year.

[celest dragon]

Those are my thoughts because regardless I can't get it to ship to me so I'll send mine to the UK and collect it on a visit anyway, I'm not in a hurry

[urban carbon]

There's really no downside considering you can request a refund at any time, they're really good at that

[ember plume]

https://tenor.com/view/bayek-ac-origins-siwa-assassins-creed-gif-21959723

[polar nymph]

Yeah, they are easy to work with. Plus I am not paying $400 for a d1200 handheld

[green crypt]

alright so we got specs and price now, all we need left is a release date

[polar nymph]

Q2 - Q3 2024

[jade gull]

I'm going q3-q4 2024

It's an established trend now. Add 6 months to whatever estimate they land on.

[slate badge]

Q3 seems to be the over/under huh?

[celest dragon]

They've given us the official window already it seems

I want specifics on the battery

Personally March/April is my guess based on how far along they seem to be with moulds and having boards on hand

[jade gull]

And I'm actually not throwing shade. As a lite, pro and max owner, this will be a day 0 purchase for me. Just see people continuing to think optimistically about Ayn estimates, release dates and ship times and thats just going to set you up for a cancelation. Always a marathon with this company, but I'm never dissatisfied with product once it finally lands.

At $299 for a 8gen2, Ayn is buying your patience via discount.

It's an insane price tbh

As someone who owns like 60 handhelds and is slowing down their collecting. I'm starting to see a future where I buy less powkiddy, anbernic, retroid, Aya and Gpd.

I also don't even like my ROG Ally as much as my Loki, simply because the Loki just fits me perfectly.

I'm quickly devolving towards just buying whatever Ayn, valve and miyoo put out and being done with trying to slice and dice nuances on devices that can almost play PS2 or have some minor tweak to the build to make it different enough to cash grab.

[slate badge]

8Gen2 device will be a step forward in the market

[jade gull]

And unfortunately, all three of my fav vendors require loads of patience.

[opal pawn]

The Odin 2 with that chip would be relevant for at least a few years. AYN take their time but their products are genuinely fantastic and worth the wait. If this takes 6 months then fine. I know it'll be amazing when I get it

[jade gull]

They seriously have turned into the "good things come to those who wait" company.

[opal pawn]

So true 🤣🤣🤣

[jade gull]

But, buying the valve device every few years to keep up with the amazing community surrounding steamdeck.

Then buying the offcycle Ayn x86 to get the power half step between steamdecks + enjoy the smaller form factor.

Then just buy the Odin to keep the android platform updated and buy miyoo devices to stay up with ultraportables. Pretty much covers all the bases.

[bleak jolt]

I'm going for this

I'm 100% going for this

I'll sell and giveaway all my other handhelds

[quasi blaze]

Everyone so upset about having to wait for a device here like the Odin pro and lite still aren't the most powerful Android devices currently available

This is going to rip especially at the price point

And even if it's delayed it's still going to be more powerful than anything the competition puts out in the interim

[celest dragon]

Kind of; and I agree with the sentiment but the Razer is definitely the most powerful atm though I suppose it has an asterix next to available

[quasi blaze]

Oh yeah the razer exists

[bleak jolt]

I know how powerful the 8Gen2 is

[quasi blaze]

I guess so does the gpd but that thing is weird

[bleak jolt]

I had a Galaxy S23 Ultra

And it ran everything I wanted it to

[opal pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-odin-odin-praise-viking-barbarian-gif-20873090

[celest dragon]

But the OG Odin still beats the Razer as for as cost-to-power goes, the Odin 2 is already going to be more powerful and cheaper I almost jumped on the Edge early but didn't and am glad due to the various issues it has had

[bleak jolt]

I'm telling you guys now

A lot, and I mean a LOT, more PS2 will be playable

About 95% GameCube and Wii

Genshin Impact runs like a dream

[opal pawn]

Switch emulation is going to be great and will only get better

[quasi blaze]

I haven't bought a handheld since my pro and this will be the one I finally buy

[celest dragon]

I've dodged getting my handheld and been a Retro Handheld Gamer in spirit for ages, since my 3DS I waited on the Switch for the always speculated on 'Switch Pro' wanted the Odin but found about it late when AYN said they were in talks about a follow-up months and months ago, and finally was ready on the Razer Edge but after my Razer Naga broke a week out of warranty decided to wait for reviews and the shitty lies has me here now-- pretty sure the Odin 2 will be the one

[frosty beacon]

Even the pimax portal is stronger now as well.

[quasi blaze]

The thing with all of these devices though is they're dramatically more expensive

[frosty beacon]

Fwiw I think this should be amazing, I can see people pre ordering at the promise of an 8 gen2

[quasi blaze]

Like if this comes out at 299 it'll be both cheaper and more powerful than the pimax

Probably makes it worth it to get that early bird price

[opal pawn]

Time to sell my pimax 😫

[quasi blaze]

Lmao the vicious cycle continues

[frosty beacon]

Yeah I mean I agree, but you were talking about the Odin pro and lite being the strongest.

[quasi blaze]

Idk what I'll do with my Odin pro after this

[frosty beacon]

Sell it

[opal pawn]

I've still got my pro as well

I might give it to my son

[quasi blaze]

I wonder how many people will want it tbh

[frosty beacon]

Gifting is good as well

[opal pawn]

He likes the rp3 I got him so I'm sure he would appreciate an Odin

[quasi blaze]

Oh yeah for sure

[jaunty rampart]

I just woke up and saw this 8 gen 2

Does that mean ps2 and GameCube smooth without tinkering?

[tardy ravine]

So what's the dealio with this chip yeah, is this gonna be the most powerful android chip on a handheld?

[jaunty rampart]

And 3Ds?

[frosty beacon]

Essentially

[jaunty rampart]

Oh god

[tardy ravine]

Pojjers

[jaunty rampart]

I want it

[frosty beacon]

Like genuinely it would smoke most games easily. The chip itself is incredible

You can play Mario kart 8 deluxe full speed on it nowadays

[tardy ravine]

Smooth gamecube with a not extremely clunky emulator interface sounds nice, I might preorder this and replace Emudeck as my high end emulation thangy

[frosty beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/15bm10o/mario_kart_8_now_running_full_speed_on_snapdragon/

[jaunty rampart]

I just hope it doesn’t end up being 8gen2 only for the pro

And the “lite” and “base” are like D900 or something

[tender helm]

Only 1 soc

[frosty beacon]

Amazed the igg isn’t linked here

[tardy ravine]

This would be so damn misleading if that was the case lmao

[jaunty rampart]

Ohh ok cool

[glacial hazel]

they did say itd be one soc across the entire lineup

[jaunty rampart]

That’s good news to hear then

[tardy ravine]

It's linked right here and this is in the pins

[jaunty rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[frosty beacon]

Oh interesting then they haven’t started taking orders?

[glacial hazel]

nah lol

they shouldnt

the only picture of an actual physical object they have at this point is that CNC prototype shell

[tardy ravine]

I'm fully expecting that early bird price to be super difficult to actually get, like all those spots are gonna go away instantly

[glacial hazel]

that's the lowest end model too

the 8/128 one

if im gonna get one itd be the 12/256

[frosty beacon]

Ah dang 8 ram actually would be a bit low for switch emu

[cedar nexus]

By the time it releases it will be great

[frosty beacon]

Could be for sure

[jaunty rampart]

Are you guys getting it now that you know is 8gen 2?

Or still skeptical about quality? Or other devices beating to market in the next 2-3 years?

[frosty beacon]

Other devices will beat it in that time frame. I’d stop worrying about other devices

[tender helm]

299 will be a good deal for 8 gen 2 even if it releases in Q4 2024. Was expecting at best a 8 gen 1 (Samsung).

[smoky flicker]

Q4 2023 but will be shipping in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025

[tender helm]

They are also very reliable with refunds, so you can always cancel if something else better comes along

[frosty beacon]

I’d say go for it tbh, if you want one and have cash to spare. That’s an incredible price

Just go with the expectation of delays

[cedar nexus]

It’s a great price and I have no idea how they are pulling this off. As Gen2 chips are reportedly to cost 120 dollars each.

If you like backing stuff and know what that means go for it. Remember IGG doesn’t grantee that you will get what is promised. You are just backing a idea at that point.

[grand wing]

1. Limited early bird.
2. it's not like the 845 cost them less than $20, it seems like they're raising the price by the amount their costs raised

[celest dragon]

They've already set 6 months as a timeline so even with Odin delays it really isn't that far off.

[grand wing]

Still annoyed they don't have a working prototype

[cedar nexus]

Will they put a limited number of units or time frame?

[grand wing]

Probably units

Something like 50-100

[celest nova]

Agreed with Nate. Even a 24hr window would likely see more orders at the early bird price than Ayn would like.

[frank halo]

so -50 /s

[celest nova]

Actually, 50 was my guess as well. Better have that page up fast

[frank halo]

but for real
50 slots for the preorder price
just so they could market and hype up 299 lmao

what a time to be alive

[grand wing]

Probably $350ish on the Indiegogo

And $400 retail

[frank halo]

doesnt matter

still got to announce 299

- ayn

[grand wing]

Even at 400 the value is technically there

It's just the question of how much you want to spend on Android

[frosty beacon]

Yeah, many people genuinely don’t want a deck, and if you are just considering android, then the value is there for sure

[frank halo]

true, im already liking my odin 1 and this is barely 2 days old lmao

[woeful heath]

Gen 2, like my S23U has? Well, this just became an easy purchase.

[frank halo]

purchase and preorder are diff things

and with vastly diff timings in the months to years for ayn realistically

[woeful heath]

Gen 2, even if it's end of next year, will be better than anything anyone else did at that price

[grand sentinel]

PS2 and 3ds at 3-4x for a lot of the library 🤤

[bleak jolt]

This became the easiest $300 I've ever wanted to spend

[frosty beacon]

I’d be amazed if 3ds doesn’t run everything 4x. The edge already runs 3ds at mostly 4x

[frank halo]

meanwhile im here imagining the fast forward speeds im gonna get out of gba on this bad boy

[fair plank]

Over 9000 fps

[frank halo]

ill take it

[jaunty rampart]

So you’re saying 3Ds 2x or 1x will be piece of cake?

I’m assuming it will run rogue squadron for GameCube no problem

[frosty beacon]

4x

[grand sentinel]

No problems at all

[frosty beacon]

4x will be a piece of cake

Rogue squadron should run well, but will likely experience minor stutter

[hushed vessel]

would be crazy to run Rogue Leader

[frosty beacon]

Mind you upscaled 3ds looks gorgeous

Genuinely going to sell my 3ds after trying it out lol

[jaunty rampart]

So basically you’re saying ps2 , GC and 3Ds almost flawless without tinkering, at least 95% of the games ?

Is that what you’re saying ?

[woeful heath]

yeah

[tender helm]

As good as the emulators allow

[jaunty rampart]

Holy shit

[woeful heath]

I run this chip in my phone, it's a beast

[opal pawn]

Outside of any inherent emulator compatibility issues this chip will eat those systems for breakfast

[frosty beacon]

Yeah it’s looking like a good device, if it delivers of course

[opal pawn]

AYN delivered on Odin for me so I have no issues backing this. They've learnt a lot from Odin and Loki.

We'll just see what fresh hell it brings with delays 😫

[frosty beacon]

Or how many people get early bird lol

But yeah even at 350-400 it’s a solid value, if you particularly want android

[opal pawn]

Yeah you're getting a device that will be relevant for like 5 years lol. I'm not sure how much more power you'd need unless PS3 emulation on android ever became thing

[jaunty rampart]

What about wii emulation?

Mario galaxy 1 and 2?

[woeful heath]

yep

[frosty beacon]

Yes dude, this thing smokes emulation lol

[sinful crater]

Lol at the comments

"Preorder now get in 2025"

[frosty beacon]

Like it is a big leap in performance and efficiency, and on top of that it should have active cooling right?

[woeful heath]

be surprised if they did

doubt it

[frosty beacon]

Did the Odin not have active cooling?

[rustic flicker]

I don't see why this wouldn't have active cooking

[woeful heath]

price is my guess, only so much they can do for 299

ah i was wrong, it has it

[main kindle]

Price is great for android emulation on that chip. Now I need to gut check 2 things. Go for the more expensive 12GB model for Yuzu, and “why not just get a refurb Steamdeck for $20 more”

[frank halo]

gotta cook your hands with the heat

[woeful heath]

that's the rub with high end android handhelds unfortunately

[main kindle]

They already have the designs in place from the last unit, it would be crazy not to use it again

[frank halo]

imo portability and battery life would still be factors

[rustic flicker]

True, but slightly different too.

Different non-emualtion game libraries and this will probably walk circles around the deck in battery life

[languid crow]

OK I think I will cancel my RP2S order and put the money towards this

That clear blue is calling my name

[woeful heath]

yes! blue!

[languid crow]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[smoky flicker]

Not all people like steam deck because big and battery life suck
But you will be hate with steam deck culties if you dont like steam deck

[jaunty rampart]

I personally hate Emudeck

Android I prefer, plus is smaller than a Steamdeck, hall sticks, battery probably is gonna be way better

I would only prefer Steamdeck for AAA or Indie games, and when in couch or bed .

[tender helm]

When did they mention hall sticks?

[jaunty rampart]

Hahaha I rumored it

But it has to right… I mean retroid is doing it already, and anbernic

It will feel like a down step not having hall sticks

[tender helm]

Not necessarily since the Loki don't have it

I more concerned about size/feel/range than hall or no Hall

[jaunty rampart]

Size and feel seem to be almost the same as the original Odin. So I have hope for that

[tranquil quiver]

GammaOS for Odin 2, confirmed.

[smoky flicker]

I think stock android in odin is much better if you compare with retroid and anbernic

[tender helm]

Don't think it's "much better" than retroid, anbernic definitely

[slow cloud]

the video they released already implied active cooling, it shows a fan

[cedar nexus]

Retroid still has the best Android Rom builds.

[woeful heath]

yeah noticed after

[jaunty rampart]

What does this mean? That the device won’t get warm?

[slow cloud]

it means that it will get a lot less warm than most phones

[jaunty rampart]

Ohhh

[slow cloud]

which means that the chipset can run at something close to its maximum speed for much longer (most phones can only do decent speeds for a couple minutes, if that, before they overheat)

and that they might even be able to overclock the chips (which they did for the original Odin)

but that hardly seems necessary at this point

[cedar nexus]

This is the thing that gives me pause. #1121418191713865729 message

[jaunty rampart]

There’s no prototype yet? Fuck

Then is gonna be 2025 for sure lol

[slow cloud]

I would suspect that they'll show off something working when they start the pre-order campaign

[opal pawn]

The T0 mold has been done and the boards are done apparently.

So it's quite far along

I'd love to see a prototype though for sure

[cedar nexus]

Just remember AYN will take you money and ghost you for 6 months. Be prepared for that.

[opal pawn]

If you look at the Odin IGG. They had prototypes before it launched but had no boards done or molds. In terms of actual hardware, it's further along than the Odin was before that IGG went live

[opal pawn]

Worth it when they produce such quality devices

[cedar nexus]

Subjective.

[slow cloud]

not that I play games like this buuuuut

[smoky flicker]

Ayn odin and loki is good quality device but they can make people waiting too much

[opal pawn]

It is but the positive feedback far outweighs the negative

[opal pawn]

Completely agree

[opal pawn]

Compared to the Odin

[jade gull]

This is a big point that alot of people are missing. When they actively cool the 8gen2, were going to see better top end and WAY better sustained performance than we would see from a traditional implementation of that chip. Nobody truly knows what the odin2 will be capable of until we know how Odin's power and cooling affect it.

[frosty beacon]

Unless they overclock, should be similar to an rm8 pro as that had active cooling

[opal pawn]

The active cooling in the original Odin really made a difference. I played PS2 for hours with a bright screen and that thing never throttled once

[jade gull]

Getting closer, but the design constraints for an rm8 are going to be wildly different

Larger heatsinks and fans make a difference and odin going to have lots of space that an rm8 wont

[cedar nexus]

I don't mind waiting. I mind lying about dates and going into ghost mode after preorders. Like they did with the Loki. If they were honest I wouldn't care.

[inland slate]

The difference is crazy

[jaunty rampart]

I don’t want to buy it for 350

But I don’t wanna put 300 right now lol

[frosty beacon]

Both prices will be a solid value

[main totem]

Would you rather put your money on this or the next Nintendo console?

Rumored to be coming at the end of next year.

[opal pawn]

Depends if you want to play just switch 2 games or a ton of retro stuff. It's not really a comparison imo

[cedar nexus]

Have to deceived if I want to early order this for the deal or just ballout on the top spec one.

[polar nymph]

12/256 for me

[opal pawn]

I'm going 12/256 as well. I'm not sure I'd need the top spec but we'll how I feel. What config I go for will be in that blue if I can

[cedar nexus]

What are the 3 skus again

[polar nymph]

8/128 12/256 16/512

[frosty beacon]

Depends on what you have and what you want.

[cedar nexus]

thank you

If 16/512 is 400 dollars I will go with that. If not I will go with the MID option. The all white looks super clean.

[polar nymph]

I'm deciding on the clear blue or the white version myself

[cedar nexus]

Most clear handhelds don't look great IRL to me. I have a few. I just fell they never look like the render and I just get disappointed.

[unreal walrus]

i dont think im gonna get this
i cant really afford the early bird price even 😭

[celest dragon]

Just wait for the Odin 3 and get the second hand devices from the people who buy every handheld and never take them off their shelves *4head

[quasi blaze]

We don't actually know when the IGG will go live do we?

[opal pawn]

Not yet

[celest dragon]

I believe I've seen people mention that they said it will be August but not a date yet

I'm in no hurry *glances nervously at bank account

[glacial hazel]

switch 2 and (maybe) switch 1 games?
or
every console ever up to the 6th gen, all of 6th gen except xbox, switch 1, every single handheld console, and even lighter pc games eventually?

wait no i forgot about the jaguar

...everyone forgot about the jaguar what am i saying

[celest dragon]

The Switch and Nintendo consoles always sell on the strength of their 1st party releases and a lot of people want to play new games in their release window so I totally understand someone getting the Switch 2 rather it won't be for me until they design a console that runs its native games @ 60fps consistently tho

I'd rather stay a generation back

[quasi blaze]

Tbh the big thing for me is that the Switch is a little clunky and the battery life isn't great

Really hard to understate how fantastic Android battery life is

[slow cloud]

yeah I have an early Switch and the battery is pretty bad now

thinking about replacing it but... I could hold out for a Switch 2 I guess

[jaunty rampart]

Is there a chance for Odin 2 coming this dec. 23?

[quasi blaze]

I wouldn't count on it

I would imagine if IGG goes live this month even that we don't see units ship until 2024

AYN is just not good at project planning and timelines

They constantly run into delays

[jaunty rampart]

Well I’m excited for this news guys

[celest dragon]

No way, the earliest will be just before Chinese New Years

AYN already stated that

[jaunty rampart]

If it delivers.. a handheld that can run up to ps2, GC, and 3Ds no problem, that Can last for the next 5 years, its been my dream ever since I started with emulation

[celest dragon]

Aye this is my dream device as well

[frosty beacon]

Yes that would provide this

[opal pawn]

If you're planning on backing thos also plan to receive it in March I would say

[jaunty rampart]

I’ve never been too much into Xbox emulation… seems more modern and the best games are already on steam

Same with ps3 and upwards

[opal pawn]

That said, they did the Odin 1 IGG in August and I got mine in january

[frosty beacon]

It would likely do some of those consoles as well if an emulator ever develops

If an early bird is actually available to many I almost want to back it just to see it happen tbh.

[slow cloud]

nothing ever ships "just before Chinese New Years" lol

I say that having worked for a Chinese company

[celest dragon]

Hah yes I don't think they were confident for that reason but the implication is no earlier than that so I imagine it will be March if it is on time the gods allow

[celest nova]

I'm banking on after CNY

[slow cloud]

I consider that a best-case scenario lol

but honestly... I get it, wanting stuff fast, but it's just not that big of a deal to me

[celest nova]

Same. Now that I know the chip is good, I'll likely throw down some money and then just not worry about it for several months.

UNLESS the SKU that I want (12/256) doesn't have any sort of IGG-specific price cut, at which point I might just wait for retail.

'cause that $299 is only going to be for the 8/128

[tardy ravine]

8gb ram would be fine for gc/ps2, right? Don't really care about Switch emu so I'd probably just get that

Also I sure hope they don't just like shadow drop the campaign I assume they wouldn't do that right

[slow cloud]

it's unlikely it would make a difference, correct

after all this drip-feeding? of course not lol

if you're really worried you could sign up on the IGG page

[tardy ravine]

I did I'm just like probably gonna be at work when it launches lol

[slow cloud]

sounds like time for a "smoke break" to me

[inland slate]

steam deck

[jaunty rampart]

Too big, battery bad, screen resolution no great for shaders, emu deck too glitchy

[frosty beacon]

Yes

I have 6gb in my edge and it preforms great on ps2/gc

[cedar nexus]

I would NOt bet on it.

[tardy ravine]

Too beeg and yeah the emulation experience isn't the greatest. It works, it runs those systems pretty well, but man the emulators themselves are pretty clunky to use on a handheld, like changing settings and whatnot

[jaunty rampart]

Yeah. Android with Daijisho for some reason is the perfect handheld for me right now

Although there’s rumors of a new gaming launcher that looks better

[tardy ravine]

Console Launcher? Yeah it's byotifile

[jaunty rampart]

Is it good for emulation ?

[tardy ravine]

I haven't used it myself but it should be, it's just a frontend as far as I know

[jaunty rampart]

Guys I want this Odin 2 if it’s real

But I’m afraid of not pre ordering and then when it hits the market is going to be 400

[heady badger]

pretty sure it is real

but only you can decide if you can trust AYN

and IGG

[celest nova]

I mean, that's very likely exactly what's going to happen. Just gotta be alright with putting down $300+ and not seeing anything for it for six+ months.

[jaunty rampart]

I ll hate to put 300 and wait a year or two

Is almost guaranteed that once is released the price will go up right

Like it did with the Odin

[glacial hazel]

yeah

[jaunty rampart]

Even right now you can get a Steamdeck for 300 haha

[glacial hazel]

and we got no idea what retail for this'll be

[glacial hazel]

thats very obviously not $300

but yeah, $320 for a steam deck in your hands in an hour - 2 weeks, vs $340 for an odin 2 in "less than 6 months"

[jaunty rampart]

The “pro” member price is 303 hehe

[glacial hazel]

yea like people actually subscribe to gamestop memberships

[slow cloud]

$320 plus sales tax 💸

does IGG collect sales tax? I can't remember

they didn't for my Odin at least

[heady badger]

with potential delays until 2025

[slow cloud]

I'm patient

[heady badger]

im not

is it 2024 yet and is odin ready yet

[slow cloud]

no and no

but I'd rather wait to get the thing I'd actually want then waste $300 on something that will leave me wanting the first thing for years anyway

[heady badger]

but you will never be satisfied

[slow cloud]

maybe you won't but the Odin 2 seems pretty damn satisfying to me

PS2/GC with no compromises and everything else is gravy

unless they royally fuck up the controls I can't really imagine what else I'd want

[heady badger]

for now

but how you know there wont be something that would come and its even more powerful

and you can run 2010 and back AAA games on android with those specs?

[errant gull]

My nostalgia ends at PS2/GameCube/Wii

So yeah Odin 2 will probably be satisfying

[heady badger]

then suddenly another thing pops up and now you can do ps3, but you need teh snapdragon 8 gen 6

and so on

it will never be enough

[errant gull]

There's no android PS3 emulator

[slow cloud]

dude you're projecting

[heady badger]

for now.

[errant gull]

Yeah I don't worry about non existent things

[heady badger]

but thats kinda my point.....its never enough

[errant gull]

For you it isn't

[heady badger]

we will want when its available

[slow cloud]

no it's really just you

[glacial hazel]

im happy with reserving gen 7 home console emu for my pc

only thing id want is for emulated functionality between android vita3k and desktop rpcs3

reliving the glory days of crossbuy

found out the other day that wipeout 2048 has the entirety of the ps3 wipeout game available as dlc

[heady badger]

vita emu

i never thought this is possible

[glacial hazel]

an 8 gen 2 will crush vita3k once its stable

[heady badger]

now i feel dumb having 4 vitas

[glacial hazel]

no youre just based

[tired pollen]

"once its stable"
lol

[glacial hazel]

vita emulation is still pretty new in the grand scheme of things so

[heady badger]

you mean moronic and projecting

[glacial hazel]

it will be by the time the odin 2 ships

[heady badger]

in 2027

i'd be suprised if not stable by then

[errant gull]

I wonder who Ayn stole these 8gen2s from

[glacial hazel]

they grow natively in the e-fields of kenya

[slow cloud]

a crate full of them just mysteriously appeared in their parking lot

[dense scarab]

When does the IGG open?

[errant gull]

August is all they've said

[thin torrent]

I JUST heard about this handheld

And legit the first thing that came up in my head was

https://64.media.tumblr.com/7dd266fc5b92cc4b404bfa8da351ea63/tumblr_p9pb5hTKYh1w1t2ixo1_540.gif

[frank halo]

did they mention a year

[errant gull]

They said it starts with a 2

[shadow parrot]

They fell off a truck.

[frank halo]

I'll take it

[ember plume]

Isn’t Odin 1 a custom overclocked 845 though?

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/can-discarded-rejected-microprocessor-chips-be-repaired.2585309/

[slow cloud]

I don't think it's "custom" but it is overclocked IIRC

wouldn't make a huge difference though

and they might be able to do the same in the Odin 2

or even if it's not overclocked, it'll have way better sustained performance than in most phones

[slow cloud]

I don't think Qualcomm would sell truly defective chips under its own brand name. Some electronics companies rebrand minimally defective parts under a different brand, or sell them as lower-level SKUs, but I think if they're advertising a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 we're going to at least get something that meets the advertised specs of one, because it's the Snapdragon brand on the line too.

[heady badger]

8+ gen 1 oc

[slow cloud]

AMD used to do that with processors, their "dual-core" processors were just quad-cores with two cores disabled/not working

if you were lucky you could get a quad core for a dual core price

or if you returned three to the store like I did

[ember plume]

I posted a article yesterday I think it was…Samsung got ditched making those as only 35% of the chips made ended up good enough for products,

I was unaware that it was Samsung who made Snapdragons, now it is another company I forget they switched to for 8 Gen 2, hoping to yield more than 35% to go into products.

[opal pawn]

Yes so the gap won't be as big as that image but the difference in power is still enormous regardless

[urban carbon]

Honestly I'm just annoyed that this is so close to being the one and all it really needs is an OLED panel. I'm sure Aya will come out with an OLED panel version with a better SD chip in a year or so but I much prefer the design and layout of odin 2. The air shell and design is ass and they won't remold something better

[heady badger]

Imagine ........if they announced Odin 2 uses OLED too

[urban carbon]

Odin 2 oled panel and snes jp color is my dream device

I might be able to buy some Sakura buttons for the color scheme but can't do nothing about the panel. I don't like the Air design, down firing speakers suck and I dislike the placement of start and select and the contoured handles are not as ergonomic so I can't just wait on the pocket air revision with a better Snapdragon chip

[heady badger]

It's legit the only thing left for this to be the endgame android

[slow cloud]

people are whining about the price enough already

[frank halo]

it might be cheaper with a burned in oled

[opal pawn]

T0 shell and PCB

[celest dragon]

Confirmation about the sticks for anyone who wasn't sure

[celest dragon]

So roughly what I believe we know according to AYN is;

SD 8 Gen 2 for the soc SoC
Colors; Solid White, Solid Black, Solid SNES US (purples), Transparent Purple, Transparent Blue
Transparent color no RGB light (Strip will be including for the tech savvy installer)
Plastic shell, no plan for metal at the moment
RAM/Storage combos 8+128GB/12+256GB/16+512GB (Lowest model early bird price $299)
Buttons same as Odin 1
Hall Sticks
4px for EU, Brazil and Mexico, rest DHL
AYN estimate is product ready within 6 months

[opal pawn]

Nice summary

[frosty beacon]

Then I would 100% have to buy it

[celest nova]

Although it was assumed, I'm very glad they're keeping the M1 and M2 buttons on the back. Legit one of my favorite things about the device!

[jaunty rampart]

No no, we don’t want ps3 or Xbox

Our nostalgia ends with ps2, GC and 3Ds

[fair plank]

Speak for yourself, my nostalgia ends with n64 and psp

[jaunty rampart]

Mine with GameCube, but it was the ps2 era as well…. And 3Ds is just a bonus

[subtle kraken]

Mine ends with the Wii

[celest dragon]

Mine is the PS2 I was too poor to have consoles after that, but the PS2 was my childhood and I will relive it! Can't wait to play all the Ratchet and Clank games on the go

[dawn island]

ehhh i doubt so. 8 gen 2 is like double the power of sd870, i dont think any conpany will pull another odin 2, except for odin 3 itself

[celest dragon]

I think where we disagree is how long until Windows Emulation is decent.

[dawn island]

depends on what u wanna play, but for ps2 era games, its already decent

with exagear and box4droid

nfsmw, same game on aethersx2 and on exagear/box64, 1x resolution

aethersx2 gets lower fps

if u are refering to ps3 era games

using need for speed rivals as the baseline

15-20fps on sd870, lowest resolution

it wont take that long for box64 to catch up, once turnip drivers matures for 7xx, the performance gonna jump for it

[ebon mesa]

watch eta prime video and apprently the preorder price is going to be 300$ for snapdragon 8 gen 2?
Isnt' this the cheapest device (including phones) with that chip? I'll be very surprised if it stays at the price